June 13, 2025 • 63 mins
Around 1983, tonight’s guest, David Blalack, was abducted from his home in Trinity County, California. He was 12 or 13 at the time and is 53 now. Even though so much time has passed, since he was abducted, he can still remember it like it was yesterday. You’d think, after having such a profound experience, at such a young age, he would have been traumatized by it. He wasn’t, however. The 3 Sasquatch who were with him just might have been more traumatized by the experience than he was. We hope you’ll tune in and find out why.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is David Blailac. I grew up in northern California.
I'm a one of six kids in our family, and
I'm the second to the youngest, and currently I'm almost
fifty four years old. And when I was around twelve
years old, I had a very eye opening experience. It
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could have been scary, but in my experience it really wasn't.
But I'll just go ahead and get right into what
happened there and so in probably I'm trying to guess
this must have been around nineteen eighty three or something
like that. I don't know my exact age when this happened,
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but I do know I was around twelve or thirteen
years old. We lived in a place in Trinity County, California,
near Trinity Lake, and it was a single wide mobile
home and it was this one road that just wound
up the side of this mountain and there was some
sporadic properties here and there on that and ours was
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kind of towards the bottom of that that mountain side road.
We did have a few neighbors below us. Several hundred
yards away was the closest one, and the next one
was about a quarter mile away, but very woodsy and
pretty wild country and.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Grew up.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
In my mind, I grew up there, even though I
only lived there really like eight seven or eight years
or something like that, but it was my childhood memories
pretty much all go toed there. That was my favorite spot.
So the story happened. I was sleeping on a hide
to bed couch. Me and my younger brother both slept
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in the living room on this hide to bed couch
in a single wide mobile home, and my two sisters
slept in the first bedroom in the hallway, and then
as you go up the hallway, then there was the bathroom,
and then there was a washer and dryer little area,
and then my mom dad's bedroom was the back bedroom
in this mobile home. And I had been awakened during
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the night. It was just sometime in the middle of
the night. I don't know what time it was, but
I had felt like I had been I had been
being choked, and so like literally when I woke up,
if there was pressure on my neck, and so it
kind of scared me. So I got up and walked
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down the hallway to my mom dad's room. And when
I walked in, I closed the door behind me, and
I walked up to my mom's side. My mom slept
on the left side of the bed and my dad
slept on the right side. And my mom was one
of those moms that if any of us kids had
an issue something going on, she would just tell us
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to slip in bed with her and kind of comfort
us until the morning then we could talk about So
I go over to my mom's side and I'm like, Mom,
I can't breathe. And she woke up and she's like,
what's wrong, son, And I was like, Mom, I can't breathe.
I felt like I'm being choked. And she's like, well, son,
can you get air? And I was like, yeah, but
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I feel like my like I'm being choked. And she goes, okay,
so we'll just crawl in bed with me and you'll
be all right. So I said, okay, mom, and I
got in bed and my mom slipped over into the
middle of the bed and I'm laying on the outside
of the bed on the left side, and I'm laying
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on my back, and I don't know how long I
had been laying there, Like I said, I was around
twelve or thirteen years old, and I just know it
was in the middle night when this happened. So I
don't know how long I'd been laying on my back
and my mom's bed, and I had my eyes closed,
and I still had my hand kind of up near
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my throat, kind of you know, kind of comforting my throat,
I guess, or however you want to say. I just
I was still kind of worried about that feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And so.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I was laying there with my eyes closed, and it
was a dark room. They didn't have any lights or
nothing on in their room. And through my eyelids, I
start seeing like this flickering of light. And the best
way I can describe it is like if you're sitting
outside around a campfire at night and you close your eyes,
(04:39):
how you can see the flames and the flickering of
the light through your eyelids. And so that was the
best way I guess I could describe it. I could
just see this light flickering through my eyelids, and before
I opened my eyes, I thought to myself, you know,
am I really seeing this? And so I kind of concentrated,
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and I could see the light flickering and I could
actually see it was moving kind of like side to
side through my eyelids, like it was not only flickering,
but it was moving around. And so I opened my eyes,
and my mom and Dad's room was already.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Turning like this.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Kind of a red flow through the wall. And not
only was it turning kind of that red glow, but
I could see that the source of this light was
moving left and right through the wall.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
The light was actually coming through the wall.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And in my mind at that age, I was thinking
to myself, it's coming up the hallway and it's going
in and out of like my sister's bedroom and the bathroom,
and like it was just going back and forth through
that hallway as it was coming up the hallway, and
so I mean, this all is happening with like a
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sucking or two.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And then I could tell it was coming.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
To the wall of the bedroom because it was getting
brighter and brighter, and it just the way I describe
it was like a like half of a ball of energy,
Like a ball of light just came through the wall
right up where the ceiling, the bedroom wall, and the
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bedroom door all came together and it came through right
above the door, and it just like I do it
with a sound effect, but there was no sound it
was like it just came through and it was like whoo,
and just stopped like halfway through. So it was like
half of a ball sticking through the wall. And as
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a child, I remember relating this to my parents and
my brothers and sisters that the red light looked like
hot lava like it was.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It wasn't like a solid red light.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It was like the inside the red was churning and
moving and not boiling, but like just rolling and like
lava would look and.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Or it was like it didn't look solid. It looked
like it was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Now I would relate to it as being like plasma
type energy being adult now, that's that's the best description.
It was like a plasma energy and it didn't make
any noise. I couldn't smell anything. At this point, I
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didn't have I didn't have any fear or anything. I
just remember sitting up in the bed and looking at
this light and it had like around three or four
feet around it. It had like a purple aura, like
this purple glow around it, and it was throwing these
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huge white sparkles that left the edge of the red
and would go out at the edge of the purple,
and so they the sparkles never left the purple. They
just shot out of the red and died out at
the edge of the purple, and they were going all
around it. It best description would be it was like
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a huge fourth of July sparkler and except these sparkles
were like an inch or so in you know, in diameter,
in size, and.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In reality it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
It looked like a huge fireworks or with the July fireworks.
There was no smoke or anything. No, it was just
this light with these sparkle lights coming out into the purple.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
And I can remember.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Seeing the lines of the paneling on the wall of
the mobile home.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I could see through the purple.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Those lines, but I couldn't see through the red ball itself,
just that turning plasma look to it. So I reached over.
The whole room was lit up. It was red, but
there was like a purple tinge to it too from
that purple color. And I remember just turning my head
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and looking at my mom, who was laying on her
left side facing away from me, facing my dad, and
I put my left hand on her hip and I
pointed up with my right hand at the red light
and I was like, Mom, look at that red light
and she didn't move, and I was like, Mom, look
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at that red light. And she started to lift her
head up and she just laid it right back down.
And I'm looking at her side profile. I mean, I
could literally see her mouth and her eyes. I could
tell her her eyes were open and closed. The room
is lit up, like if you had a red light
bulb in your light fixture. And I heard her voice
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but without her lips moving. I heard her say, son,
you're dreaming.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Go back to sleep. And I'm still pointing at the
light and I'm not in.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
My left hand still on her hip, and I turned
from my mom and I look back at the red light.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm like, no, I'm not. Mamma's right there.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And it was like a two second delay from that moment,
Like as soon as I turned from my mom, I
was like, no, I'm not mamma right there.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Two three.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then next thing I know is I'm kind of
coming to like if you pass out or if you
have a surgery, how you kind of when you first
start waking up, how it's kind of fuzzy and there's
a little bit of confusion there for a second, but
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that you know, but unlike a surgery. It just wore
right off. It wasn't like it took an hour of recovery.
It was just it took a second. And I realize
now that I'm standing up, but I don't know I'm
standing up yet. So at this point, I'm still pointing,
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and I can still see my hand pointing the same
direction it was when I had been sitting on the bed,
and my left hand still feels like it's either on
my mom's hip or holding my mom's hand at this point,
and I'm looking out and it's like I'm I instantly
know that I'm not in my mom and dad's room
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no more. I could instantly tell that I wasn't even
on Earth anymore. And the reason why I could tell
that was because it was now like I'm looking through
a clear like the wall was like a big window,
like a big glass window the whole thing from where
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I was standing, and I couldn't even see the ceiling
at this, you know, at all, just that I was
looking out like through a clear window, and I could
see nothing but dark space and stars. And how I
know that I wasn't like on Earth looking up into
the stars was because as I'm looking out this wall
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or this window.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
The stars are below me, Like I can look.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I can see they're down below the level I was at,
and they're out in front of me and they're up
above me.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So it was like I'm out among them.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And it was like from that waking up moment too,
seeing what I was looking at was just I mean,
it was just a felt like just a split sucking.
I couldn't tell you how long it took from the
time I was sitting in my mom and Dad's room
to get to that point, but it was just like
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I was pointing. No, I'm not moments right there to
next thing I know is I'm looking out into these
stars and I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Through a clear glass wall or a window.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And from this point I have to the only way
that I can kind of describe it would be that
it felt like my thinking and my body and my
eyes were being controlled, I guess is the best way
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to say it. Because when I'm looking out at the stars,
the next thing I know, and I'm still pointing at
it with my right hand, I'm pointing.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Right out towards the stars.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
When I come to in the same position when I
was sitting on the bed, and so Now my eyes
go from that and they go to my to my
left arm, which what was on my mom's hip, the
last I knew, And my eyes go down and I
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can see my pajamas still, and back in the day,
there's a little cartoon.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't remember if it was Garfield, it was a
cartoon and the.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Little dog on there it was named Otis, and I
had Otis pajamas on.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I remember that clearly.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Still, and my gaze goes up my arm of my
pajamas to my hand and.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
My hand is holding a hand that is my thick
black skin, kind of.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Big wrinkles in it, red hair on the back of
the hand, and kind of the side of the hand,
and the nails.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I could see the nails.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So as I'm holding the hand, my hand was palm
was pointing down, and its palm was pointing up holding
my hand, so I could see its nails, and its
fingernails were.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like ours at the base, but they.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Went to kind of like a not like a super
sharp claw, like a talent, went to a point, very
much like how they depict vampire nails in the movies.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the nails were black with like the white.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Little lines that streaks in them, like how we get
in our fingernails. They had the same streaks in it,
and it was holding my hand gently, and I'm holding
its hand gently. I thought it was my mom at first,
until I realize that it was this other hand. And
so my gaze now goes from our hands up the
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red haired arm of this being standing next to me,
and we are standing shoulder to shoulder. It's at my
left shoulder, and it's approximately the size.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Of my dad.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
My dad wasn't really a big eye, but it was
about the size of a male human, and for all
intents and purposes, it was a bigfoot. Then I didn't
really know what I was looking at it. Looking back now,
it was like an adolescent bickfoot, and it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Was looking straight down at me with it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Its eyes were like if you're like really surprised and
your eyes are open really wide. I can see the
whites around the eyeballs, and the pupils were either really dark.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Brown or black. It had.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like a surprised look on its face or like a
shot look on its face, and just looking straight down
at me, and we're shoulder to shoulder and facing the
same direction, and my gaze goes from that one down.
Its left arm is holding the mom's.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And she's red hair.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
She's huge. If I had to guess, she was probably
eight feet tall or something like that. It's hard for
me to judge, being that I didn't really have anything
to judge or by, and she was not side by
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side shoulder shoulder like me and the younger one was.
She was kind of caddy corner to me and the other,
the younger one, So she was standing side by side
with what I'm assuming was the male one, the dad,
and he was really huge and red hair also, and
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hit him and the mama one were holding each other's hands.
So all four of us are each holding each other's hands.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Mom and dad were looking straight down at me like
the younger the littler one was with like that surprise
shock look in their face with the whites of their
eyes showing, and just looking straight down at me, not moving.
None of us were moving. Just the only thing I
could know was moving was my head turning from the
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right to the left to see them and my eyes moving.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Other than that, I.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Didn't notice any movement from them.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And so they they were all three red haired.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
They very much looked like the Patterson Gimlin film Patty Bigfoot,
but instead of black, they had red, and so my
eyes go from them. I'm going to back up a
little bit and just say it. At this point I'm in,
I could tell it was like.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
A big room. I guess. I couldn't tell if there
was anything in the room, but it was. The lighting
was like a dull cream color. The lighting was kind
of dim. It wasn't my dark, but it was. It
wasn't bright.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I didn't notice any equipment and or any other windows
or anything else in the room except at this point
the three Sasquatch that were standing there with me, and
so my eyes and I couldn't smell anything here or
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hear anything.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I couldn't even feel anything. I was not scared.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It was really strange, and the way I can kind
of relate it to people as if like you were
sitting in a big room and there was a lot
of people you knew, maybe some of you didn't, and
you're just sitting there and everybody's kind of doing their thing,
and you're just sitting there looking around at what's going on.
You're not scared, you're not happy, you're not worried, just
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a neutral feeling just looking. I'm just looking at what
was going on. But I do believe.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That my.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Gazes, my eyes were being controlled that I could only
see certain stuff. It wasn't like I could just sit
there and just look around, and it was like I
was looking.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
At certain things. Boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
So now my eyes go from the Mom and Dad
and I turn a little bit more to the right and.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Standing with their backs against the wall.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
This wall, if I had to guess, I didn't necessarily
see the floor or the ceiling. If I did, I
don't recall it. But so I'm thinking that the ceiling
must have been at least, you know, fifteen feet tall
or more, because I'm looking at these tall beings and
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I don't see the ceilings, so there must have been
a good distance between the tops of their heads to
the ceiling. That's just my take on it. But there
is two beams standing with their backs to the wall,
and the first one, the one more to the left,
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was a praying mantis looking being, and if I had
to guess, I would say it was approximately nine or
ten feet tall ish somewhere in there. It was somewhere
around the size of the height of the Sasquatch, maybe
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between the mama and the daddy somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And this beam had big oval shaped.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Eyes that were they were black eyes, but they were
oval shaped, and they went from the front of the
face and wrapped around kind of to the side of
the head.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And I didn't notice any antennae.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Anything on top of the head or anything like that,
but or ears or anything like that. Just I remember
the eyes caught my It was what I looked at
the most.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I could see that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Its jaws, its face didn't have skin, that it was
all bone, like an insect, all bone.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
And.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It had very protruding cheek bones, like jawbones, and they
were kind of a kind of looked like charcoal bone,
a little bit like tannish to that charcoal blackish bone
looked to him kind of like if you took a
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chicken bone out of a campfire that was kind of
half charcoal a little bit kind of that look.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And it was looking.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Straightforward from its position, which was kind of would have
been to my right a little bit. And I didn't
notice if it had any clothes, if it had any
weapons or.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Anything on it.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I didn't even notice its arms or like its chest
or anything like that. It was like I was just looking,
like my eyes were just looking at the face. And
when I and then standing next to it was this.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Other thing.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
That was about the same height, probably in that eight
nine foot height. This bean was a blue colored being,
and it had a very big beach ball sized round
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head with eyes that were very similar to that like
the gray alien almond shape, very similar to that, with
like a silver mirror machine to like copper glasses that
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silver sheen.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And I do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Recall that I could see like the blood vessels and
the veins like bulging the skin, like you could see
the layout of the vessels.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And the and the veins on it. And and.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It was looking the same direction as the praying mantis
looking being. I didn't notice if it had anything on
it as far as clothing or.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Anything. I didn't even notice its arms.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I couldn't tell you what it what its body looked like,
what its feet look like, or legs or anything like that.
But I do recall that the movie signs those tall
grade looking alien beings outwards on the movie signs that
that it was similar to that, but blue with a
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big round head and silver eyes. And my gaze goes
from that to my right, and standing right immediately to
my right is this gray alien being just slightly shorter
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than me, probably, And as soon as I look at it,
it turns and well, let me back up for one second.
When I turn and look at it, its head is
looking towards those two alien beans, and its head is
bobbing back and forth, very much like a bobblehead dolls, just.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Kind of bouncing but not making any sound.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But it's looking up at those two beings, and in
my mind I knew it was communicating with them, because
it was looking at him, and it was doing that
the bobble of the head like we would while we're
talking kind of thing, and they were looking directly down
at it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And so I look at it, and it's.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Bobbling babble, babble babble, and then it just churns and
looks straight at me.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And the next thing I know is I'm kind of.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Coming to again, like if I had was waking up again,
and I'm walking up back up the hallway front, like
if I was leaving my mom and Dad's bedroom, headed
up the hallway back towards the living room where I
had been sleeping at the beginning, and I'm kind of
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coming to walking, and I can hear in my own voice,
I could hear drink pickle juice.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Drink pickle juice. And so.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I walk into the kitchen, and I remember opening up
the refrigerator and grabbing a jar of pickles and just
taking a big o' chug of that, and I remember
putting the lid on, and I remember shutting the door,
and that was the last thing I remember until I
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woke up the next day and went on about my business.
And throughout the years, I never told my family about
after I'd left my mom and dad's room. They knew
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about the red light. I always talked throughout, you know,
as a kid. They remember me mentioning the red light
and they all wondered what it was and if I
had been dreaming or what I saw, but I never
told them about the other part of it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Then I we're talking like.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thirty five years later or so. I was watching TV,
flipping through TV, and I just by chance came across
this series Ancient Aliens, and I honestly thought, you know, okay,
(30:12):
let's see what these crackpots are all about. And so
I clicked on it and lo and behold, the very
first thing they were showing was that reproduction or it
wasn't real, but that like they were portraying that red
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orb going in and out of like these missile missile silos,
going through walls, going through concrete, moving and glowing. Just
exactly what I saw. And I remember my wife was
in our bedroom folding clothes and I was in the
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living room and I saw that, and it was really
strange because it was like this emotion. I never thought
about it being seen by other people this whole time,
and I never realized that, you know, that it could
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have been something that other people experienced or that had
been reports of it. And so I seen that and
just for some odd reason, I just got like highly emotional,
and I jumped up and like started kind of bouncing
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on the floor. I'm like, babe, babe, you got to
come see this. So she comes into the living room
and I'm standing there and I literally, I don't know why,
but I literally had like watery eyes, like teary eyes,
and I'm like, babe, that's what I saw right there,
That's what I saw. And she looked and she's like,
oh wow, wow, And we sat there and watched it
how and I was like, that's exactly what it did.
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How through the buildings and went through the wall, and
it was about the same size that they were showing.
I would guess it was smaller than a basketball, probably
less than a foot diameter, maybe around a foot diameter.
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It didn't make any noise, It didn't leave any exhaust
trails or anything like that. It was just like this
red energy ball that moved around.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
But I do believe it was.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Definitely intelligence controlling it the way it acted and moved
and stuff. And another interesting kind of little side note
to this experience was the closest neighbor that lived below
us at that property. They were really nice people we
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knew years and they were maybe a little bit mentally challenged,
I guess maybe, and the.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Elderly couple were probably.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Sixties or seventy year old, then sixties, maybe a mid
sixties or something like that, just guessing. But then there
was third daughter who was very mentally challenged and their
daughters kind of her boyfriend but they almost were like
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they were married, and he was very mentally challenged.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And then there was.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Another son and his son and they were pretty much
normal a little bit different, but pretty normal, and they
all lived at this property below us, and me and
my brother used to play with the mentally challenged guy.
He was in his thirties then, and his mentality was
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about the age of me and my brother. So we
would go out and just play and throw rocks and
go do whatever boys did. And he had the old
like original I think it was original Nintendo. I could
be wrong, but he had a video game and me
and my brother used to go down there and hang
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out with him and just play video games every now
and then when we weren't playing outside, and the elderly
couple would.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Tell me and my brother. Her name was Yvonne. She
was really sweet.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
She would tell me and my brother about their experiences
of feeding a family of bigfoot big feet right off
their deck at night, that would if they would didn't
come around all the time, but when they came around,
they let them know that they were there and that
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they would literally hand feed them snap right off of
the rail of their deck.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And she I.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Do remember one of the snacks she mentioned was feeding
them peanut butter crackers, and that they.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Would feed these bigfoot, this bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Family, and they said a mom and dad and a
young one, and she said they were red haired, which
you know, me and my brother, we would, you know,
listen to her, but when we would leave, we'd be like, can.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You believe that?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Wow, that's kind of crazy, and kind of laugh at them,
I suppose, don't really make fun of them a bit,
just like, wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And so I thought that that was very interesting that.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Tying that together later in life, like wow, you know,
they used to talk about the family of Bigfoot, and
hear this family at Bigfoot was with me. And if
I had to guess, I would say that that family
at Bigfoot was abducted as I was, and that they
were standing there on lockdown just like I was, and
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that the three alien beings were in control of the situation,
and that the four of us had been abducted, maybe
not at the exact same time, but were there on
board at the same time. I don't know why, but
you know, I don't know why I was abducted. I
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don't know why they were. I don't remember any medical
procedures or probings.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't remember any fear or sadness or regrets.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Even hindsight now, I would if it was that same
type of experience, I would like to do it again.
I would if I could see and remember more and
learn more, I would be willing to And people like,
are you crazy? Or you you actually would would like
to be abducted again. And I could say this that
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I don't want to be abducted if it's like some
other people's abductees experiences where it was scary or painful
or never heard.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Of again, like never seen again.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But if it was the same experience that I went
through as a young boy, I would. I would love
to see that again and maybe be able to remember
a little.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
More this time.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And I am asked occasionally if I would do like
hypnosis or regression memory regression sessions, and I thought about that,
and it's it's something I would consider, except that I
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hear that sometimes that it's possible that there's a negative
effect to that, like possibly memories can be put into your.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Mind, or.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Fear or pain or negative emotions can be imparted to you.
I don't know if that's true or not. I have
no experience in that, but I would love to know
if there's more to it.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Than what I remember.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
And so, without dragging it on anymore. I suppose that's
pretty much everything that I can add to this experience.
And I have had experiences of other things before this
and after this, and I would like to possibly do
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maybe a coming back on and telling those experiences, but
as far as this one, I suppose that's all I
can add to it at this moment.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well, thanks for telling us about that experience. How many
other Sasquatch related experiences have you had.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Though so before that experience.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So we were buying that property that that experience happened on,
and we had moved from a little town called Weaverville, California,
to another small or little area called Junction City, California,
and we stayed at this place for just some months.
I don't know exactly how many months it was. There
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was an experience that happened there that there was no
doubt in my mind it was a sasquatch experience where
I heard it walk up and around the house and
it broke broke like a plywood piece that was covering
the door. So there's that one. And then in twoy nineteen,
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me and my wife and my sister here in Oregon
elk hunting uping for ninetiys and for the whole ninetys
straight we had stuff going on, bigfoot knocks and trees
going down, and stuff happening right around camp, and on.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Like the the.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Fourth or fifth night, I think it was the fifth night,
we ended up catching the eye Shine on the edge
of the road, like it was laying off the edge
of the road with its upper body on the road,
And without telling you too much that you know that,
I'm pretty sure we caught it peekaboo and on us.
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And that that twenty nineteen ended on the ninth night
with some calls going on, some mimicking type calls to
this roar, like a huge Jurassic part roar where we
felt like we finally had worn out our welcome there.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And when it roared, it was.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Scary and loud and deep, and it rumbled in your chest,
and we ended up leaving my camper there for a
week before we went back up and got it, and
I almost left the woods after that.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
It was so scary.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
And profound and shocking that I almost didn't want to
go hunting again and didn't want to go camping again.
So really there's the one before that experience, the abduction
and the twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
We're the main.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Main ones that I would say were bigfoot or monster experiences.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Wow, that is just amazing. It's one thing to have
an experience with the sasquatch in the woods, because that
could easily remain within the physical realm that we're used to.
But would you lose consciousness then come to in an
environment like what you found yourself in where you're looking
through this pick wall basically an invisible wall, and looking
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at stars above you, in front of you, and below you.
That just is so hard to wrap your mind around.
Did that experience have any really wide sweeping effects on
the person you grew up to be or have you
totally taken that in stride?
Speaker 1 (42:22):
You know, Vick, I think I've really taken it in stride.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I can't say that growing up.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I can almost have like a little smirk on my
face when you hear people's you know, talking about, oh,
you know, there's nothing out there and all that. It's
almost like, well, I know better, you know, kinda I
guess gave me the profound, eye opening knowledge alty on
in my life. But like like I was saying, man,
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there was no fear or any regret or any emotion
to thetual experience while it was happening, just like a
neutral experience emotionally. But I do think that growing up
and as an adult when I see stuff, it's just
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like yeah, yep, yep, you know, kind of take that
and stride like I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, after an experience like that, everything else must seem
awfully tame. And I'm wondering that's such a profound experience
to wake up and find yourself in such a different
environment like that. It's an environment that you'd never expect
to be in. Do you think they might have done
something to you that made it so you weren't really
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worked up and terrified, or do you think you weren't
terrified just because that's how you were wired.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's a great question, And I honestly this is you know,
and this is all by what you just think or
both you feel or you know, whatever they're's nothing to
back it up. Honestly, feel like they had my emotions
locked down that when I was like, no, I'm not
mom right, it's right there and I'm pointing at the
red ball for that sucking or two before I'm now
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not there anymore. Then I remember, you know, feeling normal
feeling myself and I can move and you know, talk
and do everything like normal, and my emotions like no,
you know, I wasn't scared. It was actually beautiful to
look at. It was sparkler fireworks or something. And going
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from that to now, and it wasn't like it wasn't
like I had went to sleep and was waking up,
But it was almost like just consciously coming to. It's
hard to explain or it was almost like if I
had been beamed up, Like while I was being beamed up,
there was a shut off switch and then now all
of a sudden, consciously I'm coming back to. But I
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do feel like they emotionally had shut down everything. I
don't know how to explain it, Like there was just
no emotion zero, I wasn't scared, fear, I wasn't happy, nothing.
There was just no sense of emotion at all.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Well, that definitely beats you being terrified, So thank goodness
for that. That definitely, and your ability to explain an
experience normally depends upon your ability to compare that experience
to another that you've had. But holy cow, what experience
in your life could you have ever had that you
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could compare this experience too. That is just unreal. I
don't want to lead you on this, Dave, but I
don't really see any of the way to ask this.
Then to ask you, when you consider everything involved, do
you think you might have been on the UFO when
this all happened.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I one hundred percent believe I was on a UFO.
That's to me in my mind. I that's the only
real explanation. I was physically on board something, whether it
was a building that was out there or whether it
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was on a UFO. But I physically, well I shouldn't
say physically. I mean I could see my hand and
I could see my pajamas, and.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Physically it felt like I was there. But I felt
like I was on a UFO. Absolutely, Well, that's how
it reads.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
It sure sounds that way to me also, And I'm
not sure if you thought about this or not, but
you told us how you could see the sclera of
their eyes, the whites of their eyes. That shows that
they were surprised, and you led onto that as well.
If they were surprised, do you think maybe they weren't
responsible for you being there? Something else was.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Absolutely I don't know if my eyes were wide like
there's you know, like because that to me, that kind
of shows emotion. And if that's true, then they were
showing emotion where I didn't feel any emotion, which I
kind of think that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I do believe they were in.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
The same situation I was, that they were abducted as
I was.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
They were there, they.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Weren't looking around like I was looking around. They were
looking directly at me, which I find very interesting too. Yeah,
I felt like there was surprise in their eyes that
that we were standing there together.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I guess I don't it's a good question.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
If they were more surprised by your presence than the
fact that they're possibly on a UFO themselves. That sure
makes it sound like you must have experienced that before
something was going on for them to be more taken
by you being there than them being in that place,
whatever it was, if it was a UFO or not.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I agree one hundred percent with that.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
It really makes you wonder how this works. That is
just crazy, it really is. After having that experience and
experience as profound as that, normally, after you go back
to quote unquote normal, the after effects have a way
of working their way into your life and different aspects
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of your life. Has anything popped up in your life
that you can basically attribute to that experience that might
not be related to it, and in the way of
you being afraid of the woods or something like that,
but nonetheless you point to that experience of being abducted
and you think that experience is responsible for what for
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after effect or after effects that you now experience in
your life.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's a great question. I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I still to this day don't have no fear of
being abducted again, or alien beings attacking Earth or anything
like that. In one sense that I think it did
have an effect on my life was knowing that there
was other life out there.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
And.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
That I believe that made me grow up being more
of a skywatcher and like even daytime, nighttime, just constantly
looking up looking for stuff. And I've seen a lot
of interesting things, and even me and my wife and
my brother in law together have.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Seen some interesting things. So I think.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Growing up with that knowledge that there was these other
things out there that I think it it was almost
a comforting thing in a sense that you know, the
intelligence had to be far more beyond human intelligence, and.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That whatever whatever it was in that room that day,
that night. It was a night that night.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
If they wanted to scare me or hurt me or
put fear, if they were let's say, quote unquote demonic
or evil, they certainly wouldn't have made it a non
scary situation or a non painful situation.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
So there was comfort to that to me that maybe
they were.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Being nice to me and not scaring me or hurting
me that I can remember. If they blanked that part out,
then they somehow they blank that part out, which I'm
appreciative of that, But I would think the way it
changed me the most, nothing negative.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
The one thing it did was make me a knower
that there was things going on. Nobody could tell me different.
I didn't have to argue with anybody about it, just
growing up knowing and looking up and just knowing like
there's things out there, and.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
That I was out there, I guess is the best
way to say it.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
That I experienced something very few seemingly have experienced. And
I don't know why I was unless it was just
I happened to be awake that night and saw it
and that's why they took me.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Or.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I can't explain why it happened, But I just I
actually sounds weird, Vic, But I'm actually kind of thankful
that I got to maybe my personality and the way
I'm wired. Maybe that's why is I'm okay with that.
But I wouldn't mind if it happened again right now,
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to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Well, I'll be careful what you wish for. Maybe the
second time around wouldn't go as well.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
And that's true, that's true. Yeah, that's right. And I
can tell you this, tell you this too, Vick.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Is when we grew up where we grew up, we
didn't have satellite TV or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
There was no movies.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
I didn't know anything about Patterson Jimlin until way later
in life, probably in my thirties or something, and so,
and I didn't have any idea about aliens or red
orbs or even sasquatch or anything like that. I mean,
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we lived in area where everybody knew about, you know,
the name Bigfoot and stuff, the monster Bigfoot, but not
that he was real, and not that it was.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
No description of it or anything like that. So all
these things.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
As a kid, people's asked me, well, could have been
something you saw on TV? And you're just dreaming about it,
or you're it's like a when I can't remember lucid
dream type thing. And I can just honestly tell you,
I don't know how we could have had that input
into my mind, because we did. We had like ABC
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and krc R with just like your local little channels
and PBS, like the three little local channels that we
could barely get in with a rabbit e or antennasy.
So I don't know how, you know, any of that
could have been inputed into my mind. So to me,
looking back, that that's kind of a profound thing too,
that it wasn't a dream or a memory that I
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made up and now it's just become in my mind
a reality or something like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (54:01):
I do know what you're saying. And yeah, I don't
think you were dreaming either from the way you describe it.
I think somehow, some way it actually happened. But what
do you think the possibility is that the sasquatch were
responsible for you being there, but you being there was
an accident and that's why you could see the whites
of their eyes the way you did.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's an interesting thought.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
I I just looking at the way the situation was,
like how they were shocked, that shocked look on their face,
and the way us.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Four were all kind of like holding hands, kind of
like you would we were all four on lockdown together,
and the other beings they were doing their own little things.
If they were the ones responsible, I'm trying to word
just because it's a really good question. If they were
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the ones responsible, it seems like they somehow.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Had me there when they shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Have, or we're surprised that I was because of the
look on their face. It was a look of like,
you know, what the heck is this kind of look
to their face. Their mouths weren't open, like gaping or nothing,
but their eyes were looking straight down at me like
who are you kind of look to them.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Well, I can only imagine what them must have been
like to experience that is just crazy. And just like
the saying goes, somewhere in the world is the worst
doctor With that in mind, somewhere out there there is
a Barney Fife type sasquatch, a groomer pile. I wonder
if one of those sasquatch you're holding hands with, maybe
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not directly, but maybe the big one. Maybe that one
was a gooomer pile Sasquatch and it used the wrong
vibrations and poof, you wound up there up on the
UFO with him and his family somehow.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
That's very possible. I can't argue, and I honestly I
couldn't tell you. But the best that I can say
is that it seemed like they were abducted the same
as I was. And that's just the feeling and looking
at situation, it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Big, It's very possible there was a gomer pile mishap.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Yeah, that might be what was going on. The reason
why I put that up there is an idea as
a possibility is if you have the technology to create
the UFO that can go from star to star and
travel that way, the odds of you having a faux
pas like that are really slim to none. There had
to be a reason for you being there, but there
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are no apparent reasons. I mean, when people are abducted,
when they come back, they report after effects they were
probed they noticed later on little devices under their skin.
There are breadcrumbs basically, But with you, all these years later,
you still haven't found any reason for you being abducted.
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Nothing was apparently implanted, nothing was apparently done to you.
So that's why I was asking all these questions such as,
do you think it was a faux pat Maybe maybe
one of the Sasquatch made a mistake, and we all
know that a lot of credible eye witnesses have reported
seeing them do things that are right on the edge
of being supernatural almost maybe they used vibrations or something
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the wrong way by mistaken that's why you wound up there.
That's why I'm asking this question about everything's got a reason.
The more intelligence you have, if you're an alien and
you're that intelligent, like I said, the odds of you
making a mistake like that and having you wind up
there when you weren't supposed to be there, that's pretty
much slim to none. So that's why I'm back the
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whole possibility of maybe the Sasquatch making a mistake and
that's why you you found yourself there. I don't know,
it's just so hard to wrap my head around.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Wow, mine too, And I love your kind of outside
the box thinking because I've pondered.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
That a lot.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
You know, why why would I have went you know?
Why would they have took me up there? There's obvious
if it was intentional, there had to be a reason.
And I, like you said, I can't find I don't
know why. I can't find a reason, I honestly, and
unless they somehow did things to me but blocked it out,
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which doesn't go along. I mean, maybe there's good and
bad aliens and good and bad you know, bigfoot and
people and all that, and maybe they were nice and
blacked out any probing or whatever that they did medical
procedures or whatever, experiments or whatever, and maybe they blocked
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it from my memory.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
And I can't I'm like you, I.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Can't explain why I went through that without knowing that
there was some effect from it.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
It's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
Yeah, interesting doesn't do it any justice. I'm not sure
if you know it or not. But when most people
will come back and are revived from a near death experience,
a lot of them go through a depression because what
they experienced on the other side was so extreme. It
makes life seem so boring, and it was so rewarding
and so pleasant. Also on the other side, when they
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come back to life, they're just so bored. Life is
so boring. And dull compared to what they experienced on
the other side, after you had such an extreme experience,
did you experience anything like that afterwards where you found
life to be so boring and compared to what you
experienced uff there or wherever you were, this is just dull, you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Know, somewhat.
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Yeah, not necessarily depression, I'm I guess I've had little
bouts of depression, not anything extreme, but.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, I guess. And especially almost frustration where like the
I don't know how to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Explain, like the the naysayers and how people get laughed
at and just like we did it the family that
lived down the road. You know, we didn't laugh at
them to their face, but we thought they were strange
and kind of like, man, can you believe they said that?
And you know when it's kind of that same thing, like, well,
I know what I saw and experienced, and what's some
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of what's out there or here on earth.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
And to hear people ah blah blah blah and ridicule
and deny, including governments and all that, I would say
there's instead of a depression, there's more.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Of a frustration about it. Well, and I know, and
like you said, as far as the other side, or
I don't know. If I had a near death experience.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I don't know. Maybe I did, Maybe that was the
choking part. I have no idea and I have no
idea how that to connect, if it does at all, But.
Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
That that if if in fact I was on a
UFO and I was out in space, I want to
go see what's out in space.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I want to go explore. I guess so it does.
This does seem somewhat boring and minuscule when you look
at the what could be the broad picture.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Well, I bet it does you compared to that. Yeah,
life is boring in minuscule, but you never know. Like
I said, be careful what you wish for. Someday down
the road, you just might get a chance to go back.
It's really hard to say. But having said that, Dave,
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
the details of those experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You're very welcome, Vic, I'm very very glad you'd invited me,
and it's been an honor.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Well, it's been great having me here. Thanks again so
much for your time, and have a great night. That's
it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
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Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
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a great night.
My name is David Blailac. I grew up in northern California.
I'm a one of six kids in our family, and
I'm the second to the youngest, and currently I'm almost
fifty four years old. And when I was around twelve
years old, I had a very eye opening experience. It
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could have been scary, but in my experience it really wasn't.
But I'll just go ahead and get right into what
happened there and so in probably I'm trying to guess
this must have been around nineteen eighty three or something
like that. I don't know my exact age when this happened,
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but I do know I was around twelve or thirteen
years old. We lived in a place in Trinity County, California,
near Trinity Lake, and it was a single wide mobile
home and it was this one road that just wound
up the side of this mountain and there was some
sporadic properties here and there on that and ours was
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kind of towards the bottom of that that mountain side road.
We did have a few neighbors below us. Several hundred
yards away was the closest one, and the next one
was about a quarter mile away, but very woodsy and
pretty wild country and.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Grew up.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
In my mind, I grew up there, even though I
only lived there really like eight seven or eight years
or something like that, but it was my childhood memories
pretty much all go toed there. That was my favorite spot.
So the story happened. I was sleeping on a hide
to bed couch. Me and my younger brother both slept
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in the living room on this hide to bed couch
in a single wide mobile home, and my two sisters
slept in the first bedroom in the hallway, and then
as you go up the hallway, then there was the bathroom,
and then there was a washer and dryer little area,
and then my mom dad's bedroom was the back bedroom
in this mobile home. And I had been awakened during
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the night. It was just sometime in the middle of
the night. I don't know what time it was, but
I had felt like I had been I had been
being choked, and so like literally when I woke up,
if there was pressure on my neck, and so it
kind of scared me. So I got up and walked
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down the hallway to my mom dad's room. And when
I walked in, I closed the door behind me, and
I walked up to my mom's side. My mom slept
on the left side of the bed and my dad
slept on the right side. And my mom was one
of those moms that if any of us kids had
an issue something going on, she would just tell us
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to slip in bed with her and kind of comfort
us until the morning then we could talk about So
I go over to my mom's side and I'm like, Mom,
I can't breathe. And she woke up and she's like,
what's wrong, son, And I was like, Mom, I can't breathe.
I felt like I'm being choked. And she's like, well, son,
can you get air? And I was like, yeah, but
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I feel like my like I'm being choked. And she goes, okay,
so we'll just crawl in bed with me and you'll
be all right. So I said, okay, mom, and I
got in bed and my mom slipped over into the
middle of the bed and I'm laying on the outside
of the bed on the left side, and I'm laying
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on my back, and I don't know how long I
had been laying there, Like I said, I was around
twelve or thirteen years old, and I just know it
was in the middle night when this happened. So I
don't know how long I'd been laying on my back
and my mom's bed, and I had my eyes closed,
and I still had my hand kind of up near
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my throat, kind of you know, kind of comforting my throat,
I guess, or however you want to say. I just
I was still kind of worried about that feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And so.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I was laying there with my eyes closed, and it
was a dark room. They didn't have any lights or
nothing on in their room. And through my eyelids, I
start seeing like this flickering of light. And the best
way I can describe it is like if you're sitting
outside around a campfire at night and you close your eyes,
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how you can see the flames and the flickering of
the light through your eyelids. And so that was the
best way I guess I could describe it. I could
just see this light flickering through my eyelids, and before
I opened my eyes, I thought to myself, you know,
am I really seeing this? And so I kind of concentrated,
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and I could see the light flickering and I could
actually see it was moving kind of like side to
side through my eyelids, like it was not only flickering,
but it was moving around. And so I opened my eyes,
and my mom and Dad's room was already.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Turning like this.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Kind of a red flow through the wall. And not
only was it turning kind of that red glow, but
I could see that the source of this light was
moving left and right through the wall.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
The light was actually coming through the wall.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And in my mind at that age, I was thinking
to myself, it's coming up the hallway and it's going
in and out of like my sister's bedroom and the bathroom,
and like it was just going back and forth through
that hallway as it was coming up the hallway, and
so I mean, this all is happening with like a
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sucking or two.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
And then I could tell it was coming.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
To the wall of the bedroom because it was getting
brighter and brighter, and it just the way I describe
it was like a like half of a ball of energy,
Like a ball of light just came through the wall
right up where the ceiling, the bedroom wall, and the
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bedroom door all came together and it came through right
above the door, and it just like I do it
with a sound effect, but there was no sound it
was like it just came through and it was like whoo,
and just stopped like halfway through. So it was like
half of a ball sticking through the wall. And as
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a child, I remember relating this to my parents and
my brothers and sisters that the red light looked like
hot lava like it was.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It wasn't like a solid red light.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
It was like the inside the red was churning and
moving and not boiling, but like just rolling and like
lava would look and.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Or it was like it didn't look solid. It looked
like it was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Now I would relate to it as being like plasma
type energy being adult now, that's that's the best description.
It was like a plasma energy and it didn't make
any noise. I couldn't smell anything. At this point, I
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didn't have I didn't have any fear or anything. I
just remember sitting up in the bed and looking at
this light and it had like around three or four
feet around it. It had like a purple aura, like
this purple glow around it, and it was throwing these
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huge white sparkles that left the edge of the red
and would go out at the edge of the purple,
and so they the sparkles never left the purple. They
just shot out of the red and died out at
the edge of the purple, and they were going all
around it. It best description would be it was like
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a huge fourth of July sparkler and except these sparkles
were like an inch or so in you know, in diameter,
in size, and.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In reality it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
It looked like a huge fireworks or with the July fireworks.
There was no smoke or anything. No, it was just
this light with these sparkle lights coming out into the purple.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
And I can remember.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Seeing the lines of the paneling on the wall of
the mobile home.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I could see through the purple.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Those lines, but I couldn't see through the red ball itself,
just that turning plasma look to it. So I reached over.
The whole room was lit up. It was red, but
there was like a purple tinge to it too from
that purple color. And I remember just turning my head
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and looking at my mom, who was laying on her
left side facing away from me, facing my dad, and
I put my left hand on her hip and I
pointed up with my right hand at the red light
and I was like, Mom, look at that red light
and she didn't move, and I was like, Mom, look
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at that red light. And she started to lift her
head up and she just laid it right back down.
And I'm looking at her side profile. I mean, I
could literally see her mouth and her eyes. I could
tell her her eyes were open and closed. The room
is lit up, like if you had a red light
bulb in your light fixture. And I heard her voice
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but without her lips moving. I heard her say, son,
you're dreaming.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Go back to sleep. And I'm still pointing at the
light and I'm not in.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
My left hand still on her hip, and I turned
from my mom and I look back at the red light.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I'm like, no, I'm not. Mamma's right there.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And it was like a two second delay from that moment,
Like as soon as I turned from my mom, I
was like, no, I'm not mamma right there.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Two three.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then next thing I know is I'm kind of
coming to like if you pass out or if you
have a surgery, how you kind of when you first
start waking up, how it's kind of fuzzy and there's
a little bit of confusion there for a second, but
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that you know, but unlike a surgery. It just wore
right off. It wasn't like it took an hour of recovery.
It was just it took a second. And I realize
now that I'm standing up, but I don't know I'm
standing up yet. So at this point, I'm still pointing,
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and I can still see my hand pointing the same
direction it was when I had been sitting on the bed,
and my left hand still feels like it's either on
my mom's hip or holding my mom's hand at this point,
and I'm looking out and it's like I'm I instantly
know that I'm not in my mom and dad's room
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no more. I could instantly tell that I wasn't even
on Earth anymore. And the reason why I could tell
that was because it was now like I'm looking through
a clear like the wall was like a big window,
like a big glass window the whole thing from where
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I was standing, and I couldn't even see the ceiling
at this, you know, at all, just that I was
looking out like through a clear window, and I could
see nothing but dark space and stars. And how I
know that I wasn't like on Earth looking up into
the stars was because as I'm looking out this wall
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or this window.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
The stars are below me, Like I can look.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I can see they're down below the level I was at,
and they're out in front of me and they're up
above me.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So it was like I'm out among them.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
And it was like from that waking up moment too,
seeing what I was looking at was just I mean,
it was just a felt like just a split sucking.
I couldn't tell you how long it took from the
time I was sitting in my mom and Dad's room
to get to that point, but it was just like
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I was pointing. No, I'm not moments right there to
next thing I know is I'm looking out into these
stars and I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Through a clear glass wall or a window.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And from this point I have to the only way
that I can kind of describe it would be that
it felt like my thinking and my body and my
eyes were being controlled, I guess is the best way
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to say it. Because when I'm looking out at the stars,
the next thing I know, and I'm still pointing at
it with my right hand, I'm pointing.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Right out towards the stars.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
When I come to in the same position when I
was sitting on the bed, and so Now my eyes
go from that and they go to my to my
left arm, which what was on my mom's hip, the
last I knew, And my eyes go down and I
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can see my pajamas still, and back in the day,
there's a little cartoon.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't remember if it was Garfield, it was a
cartoon and the.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Little dog on there it was named Otis, and I
had Otis pajamas on.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I remember that clearly.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Still, and my gaze goes up my arm of my
pajamas to my hand and.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
My hand is holding a hand that is my thick
black skin, kind of.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Big wrinkles in it, red hair on the back of
the hand, and kind of the side of the hand,
and the nails.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I could see the nails.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So as I'm holding the hand, my hand was palm
was pointing down, and its palm was pointing up holding
my hand, so I could see its nails, and its
fingernails were.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Like ours at the base, but they.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Went to kind of like a not like a super
sharp claw, like a talent, went to a point, very
much like how they depict vampire nails in the movies.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
And the nails were black with like the white.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Little lines that streaks in them, like how we get
in our fingernails. They had the same streaks in it,
and it was holding my hand gently, and I'm holding
its hand gently. I thought it was my mom at first,
until I realize that it was this other hand. And
so my gaze now goes from our hands up the
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red haired arm of this being standing next to me,
and we are standing shoulder to shoulder. It's at my
left shoulder, and it's approximately the size.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Of my dad.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
My dad wasn't really a big eye, but it was
about the size of a male human, and for all
intents and purposes, it was a bigfoot. Then I didn't
really know what I was looking at it. Looking back now,
it was like an adolescent bickfoot, and it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Was looking straight down at me with it.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Its eyes were like if you're like really surprised and
your eyes are open really wide. I can see the
whites around the eyeballs, and the pupils were either really dark.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Brown or black. It had.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Like a surprised look on its face or like a
shot look on its face, and just looking straight down
at me, and we're shoulder to shoulder and facing the
same direction, and my gaze goes from that one down.
Its left arm is holding the mom's.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And she's red hair.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
She's huge. If I had to guess, she was probably
eight feet tall or something like that. It's hard for
me to judge, being that I didn't really have anything
to judge or by, and she was not side by
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side shoulder shoulder like me and the younger one was.
She was kind of caddy corner to me and the other,
the younger one, So she was standing side by side
with what I'm assuming was the male one, the dad,
and he was really huge and red hair also, and
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hit him and the mama one were holding each other's hands.
So all four of us are each holding each other's hands.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Mom and dad were looking straight down at me like
the younger the littler one was with like that surprise
shock look in their face with the whites of their
eyes showing, and just looking straight down at me, not moving.
None of us were moving. Just the only thing I
could know was moving was my head turning from the
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right to the left to see them and my eyes moving.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Other than that, I.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Didn't notice any movement from them.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
And so they they were all three red haired.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
They very much looked like the Patterson Gimlin film Patty Bigfoot,
but instead of black, they had red, and so my
eyes go from them. I'm going to back up a
little bit and just say it. At this point I'm in,
I could tell it was like.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
A big room. I guess. I couldn't tell if there
was anything in the room, but it was. The lighting
was like a dull cream color. The lighting was kind
of dim. It wasn't my dark, but it was. It
wasn't bright.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I didn't notice any equipment and or any other windows
or anything else in the room except at this point
the three Sasquatch that were standing there with me, and
so my eyes and I couldn't smell anything here or
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hear anything.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I couldn't even feel anything. I was not scared.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It was really strange, and the way I can kind
of relate it to people as if like you were
sitting in a big room and there was a lot
of people you knew, maybe some of you didn't, and
you're just sitting there and everybody's kind of doing their thing,
and you're just sitting there looking around at what's going on.
You're not scared, you're not happy, you're not worried, just
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a neutral feeling just looking. I'm just looking at what
was going on. But I do believe.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
That my.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Gazes, my eyes were being controlled that I could only
see certain stuff. It wasn't like I could just sit
there and just look around, and it was like I
was looking.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
At certain things. Boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
So now my eyes go from the Mom and Dad
and I turn a little bit more to the right and.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Standing with their backs against the wall.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
This wall, if I had to guess, I didn't necessarily
see the floor or the ceiling. If I did, I
don't recall it. But so I'm thinking that the ceiling
must have been at least, you know, fifteen feet tall
or more, because I'm looking at these tall beings and
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I don't see the ceilings, so there must have been
a good distance between the tops of their heads to
the ceiling. That's just my take on it. But there
is two beams standing with their backs to the wall,
and the first one, the one more to the left,
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was a praying mantis looking being, and if I had
to guess, I would say it was approximately nine or
ten feet tall ish somewhere in there. It was somewhere
around the size of the height of the Sasquatch, maybe
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between the mama and the daddy somewhere in there.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And this beam had big oval shaped.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Eyes that were they were black eyes, but they were
oval shaped, and they went from the front of the
face and wrapped around kind of to the side of
the head.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
And I didn't notice any antennae.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Anything on top of the head or anything like that,
but or ears or anything like that. Just I remember
the eyes caught my It was what I looked at
the most.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I could see that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Its jaws, its face didn't have skin, that it was
all bone, like an insect, all bone.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
And.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It had very protruding cheek bones, like jawbones, and they
were kind of a kind of looked like charcoal bone,
a little bit like tannish to that charcoal blackish bone
looked to him kind of like if you took a
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chicken bone out of a campfire that was kind of
half charcoal a little bit kind of that look.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And it was looking.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Straightforward from its position, which was kind of would have
been to my right a little bit. And I didn't
notice if it had any clothes, if it had any
weapons or.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Anything on it.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
I didn't even notice its arms or like its chest
or anything like that. It was like I was just looking,
like my eyes were just looking at the face. And
when I and then standing next to it was this.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Other thing.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
That was about the same height, probably in that eight
nine foot height. This bean was a blue colored being,
and it had a very big beach ball sized round
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head with eyes that were very similar to that like
the gray alien almond shape, very similar to that, with
like a silver mirror machine to like copper glasses that
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silver sheen.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
And I do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Recall that I could see like the blood vessels and
the veins like bulging the skin, like you could see
the layout of the vessels.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And the and the veins on it. And and.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It was looking the same direction as the praying mantis
looking being. I didn't notice if it had anything on
it as far as clothing or.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Anything. I didn't even notice its arms.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I couldn't tell you what it what its body looked like,
what its feet look like, or legs or anything like that.
But I do recall that the movie signs those tall
grade looking alien beings outwards on the movie signs that
that it was similar to that, but blue with a
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big round head and silver eyes. And my gaze goes
from that to my right, and standing right immediately to
my right is this gray alien being just slightly shorter
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than me, probably, And as soon as I look at it,
it turns and well, let me back up for one second.
When I turn and look at it, its head is
looking towards those two alien beans, and its head is
bobbing back and forth, very much like a bobblehead dolls, just.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Kind of bouncing but not making any sound.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But it's looking up at those two beings, and in
my mind I knew it was communicating with them, because
it was looking at him, and it was doing that
the bobble of the head like we would while we're
talking kind of thing, and they were looking directly down
at it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And so I look at it, and it's.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Bobbling babble, babble babble, and then it just churns and
looks straight at me.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And the next thing I know is I'm kind of.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Coming to again, like if I had was waking up again,
and I'm walking up back up the hallway front, like
if I was leaving my mom and Dad's bedroom, headed
up the hallway back towards the living room where I
had been sleeping at the beginning, and I'm kind of
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coming to walking, and I can hear in my own voice,
I could hear drink pickle juice.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Drink pickle juice. And so.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I walk into the kitchen, and I remember opening up
the refrigerator and grabbing a jar of pickles and just
taking a big o' chug of that, and I remember
putting the lid on, and I remember shutting the door,
and that was the last thing I remember until I
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woke up the next day and went on about my business.
And throughout the years, I never told my family about
after I'd left my mom and dad's room. They knew
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about the red light. I always talked throughout, you know,
as a kid. They remember me mentioning the red light
and they all wondered what it was and if I
had been dreaming or what I saw, but I never
told them about the other part of it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Then I we're talking like.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Thirty five years later or so. I was watching TV,
flipping through TV, and I just by chance came across
this series Ancient Aliens, and I honestly thought, you know, okay,
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let's see what these crackpots are all about. And so
I clicked on it and lo and behold, the very
first thing they were showing was that reproduction or it
wasn't real, but that like they were portraying that red
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orb going in and out of like these missile missile silos,
going through walls, going through concrete, moving and glowing. Just
exactly what I saw. And I remember my wife was
in our bedroom folding clothes and I was in the
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living room and I saw that, and it was really
strange because it was like this emotion. I never thought
about it being seen by other people this whole time,
and I never realized that, you know, that it could
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have been something that other people experienced or that had
been reports of it. And so I seen that and
just for some odd reason, I just got like highly emotional,
and I jumped up and like started kind of bouncing
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on the floor. I'm like, babe, babe, you got to
come see this. So she comes into the living room
and I'm standing there and I literally, I don't know why,
but I literally had like watery eyes, like teary eyes,
and I'm like, babe, that's what I saw right there,
That's what I saw. And she looked and she's like,
oh wow, wow, And we sat there and watched it
how and I was like, that's exactly what it did.
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How through the buildings and went through the wall, and
it was about the same size that they were showing.
I would guess it was smaller than a basketball, probably
less than a foot diameter, maybe around a foot diameter.
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It didn't make any noise, It didn't leave any exhaust
trails or anything like that. It was just like this
red energy ball that moved around.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
But I do believe it was.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Definitely intelligence controlling it the way it acted and moved
and stuff. And another interesting kind of little side note
to this experience was the closest neighbor that lived below
us at that property. They were really nice people we
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knew years and they were maybe a little bit mentally challenged,
I guess maybe, and the.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Elderly couple were probably.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Sixties or seventy year old, then sixties, maybe a mid
sixties or something like that, just guessing. But then there
was third daughter who was very mentally challenged and their
daughters kind of her boyfriend but they almost were like
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they were married, and he was very mentally challenged.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
And then there was.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Another son and his son and they were pretty much
normal a little bit different, but pretty normal, and they
all lived at this property below us, and me and
my brother used to play with the mentally challenged guy.
He was in his thirties then, and his mentality was
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about the age of me and my brother. So we
would go out and just play and throw rocks and
go do whatever boys did. And he had the old
like original I think it was original Nintendo. I could
be wrong, but he had a video game and me
and my brother used to go down there and hang
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out with him and just play video games every now
and then when we weren't playing outside, and the elderly
couple would.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Tell me and my brother. Her name was Yvonne. She
was really sweet.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
She would tell me and my brother about their experiences
of feeding a family of bigfoot big feet right off
their deck at night, that would if they would didn't
come around all the time, but when they came around,
they let them know that they were there and that
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they would literally hand feed them snap right off of
the rail of their deck.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And she I.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Do remember one of the snacks she mentioned was feeding
them peanut butter crackers, and that they.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Would feed these bigfoot, this bigfoot.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Family, and they said a mom and dad and a
young one, and she said they were red haired, which
you know, me and my brother, we would, you know,
listen to her, but when we would leave, we'd be like, can.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You believe that?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Wow, that's kind of crazy, and kind of laugh at them,
I suppose, don't really make fun of them a bit,
just like, wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And so I thought that that was very interesting that.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Tying that together later in life, like wow, you know,
they used to talk about the family of Bigfoot, and
hear this family at Bigfoot was with me. And if
I had to guess, I would say that that family
at Bigfoot was abducted as I was, and that they
were standing there on lockdown just like I was, and
(36:14):
that the three alien beings were in control of the situation,
and that the four of us had been abducted, maybe
not at the exact same time, but were there on
board at the same time. I don't know why, but
you know, I don't know why I was abducted. I
(36:34):
don't know why they were. I don't remember any medical
procedures or probings.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I don't remember any fear or sadness or regrets.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Even hindsight now, I would if it was that same
type of experience, I would like to do it again.
I would if I could see and remember more and
learn more, I would be willing to And people like,
are you crazy? Or you you actually would would like
to be abducted again. And I could say this that
(37:10):
I don't want to be abducted if it's like some
other people's abductees experiences where it was scary or painful
or never heard.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Of again, like never seen again.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But if it was the same experience that I went
through as a young boy, I would. I would love
to see that again and maybe be able to remember
a little.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
More this time.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And I am asked occasionally if I would do like
hypnosis or regression memory regression sessions, and I thought about that,
and it's it's something I would consider, except that I
(37:55):
hear that sometimes that it's possible that there's a negative
effect to that, like possibly memories can be put into your.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Mind, or.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Fear or pain or negative emotions can be imparted to you.
I don't know if that's true or not. I have
no experience in that, but I would love to know
if there's more to it.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Than what I remember.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
And so, without dragging it on anymore. I suppose that's
pretty much everything that I can add to this experience.
And I have had experiences of other things before this
and after this, and I would like to possibly do
(38:48):
maybe a coming back on and telling those experiences, but
as far as this one, I suppose that's all I
can add to it at this moment.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well, thanks for telling us about that experience. How many
other Sasquatch related experiences have you had.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Though so before that experience.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
So we were buying that property that that experience happened on,
and we had moved from a little town called Weaverville, California,
to another small or little area called Junction City, California,
and we stayed at this place for just some months.
I don't know exactly how many months it was. There
(39:30):
was an experience that happened there that there was no
doubt in my mind it was a sasquatch experience where
I heard it walk up and around the house and
it broke broke like a plywood piece that was covering
the door. So there's that one. And then in twoy nineteen,
(39:53):
me and my wife and my sister here in Oregon
elk hunting uping for ninetiys and for the whole ninetys
straight we had stuff going on, bigfoot knocks and trees
going down, and stuff happening right around camp, and on.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Like the the.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Fourth or fifth night, I think it was the fifth night,
we ended up catching the eye Shine on the edge
of the road, like it was laying off the edge
of the road with its upper body on the road,
And without telling you too much that you know that,
I'm pretty sure we caught it peekaboo and on us.
(40:34):
And that that twenty nineteen ended on the ninth night
with some calls going on, some mimicking type calls to
this roar, like a huge Jurassic part roar where we
felt like we finally had worn out our welcome there.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And when it roared, it was.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Scary and loud and deep, and it rumbled in your chest,
and we ended up leaving my camper there for a
week before we went back up and got it, and
I almost left the woods after that.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
It was so scary.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
And profound and shocking that I almost didn't want to
go hunting again and didn't want to go camping again.
So really there's the one before that experience, the abduction
and the twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
We're the main.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Main ones that I would say were bigfoot or monster experiences.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Wow, that is just amazing. It's one thing to have
an experience with the sasquatch in the woods, because that
could easily remain within the physical realm that we're used to.
But would you lose consciousness then come to in an
environment like what you found yourself in where you're looking
through this pick wall basically an invisible wall, and looking
(42:03):
at stars above you, in front of you, and below you.
That just is so hard to wrap your mind around.
Did that experience have any really wide sweeping effects on
the person you grew up to be or have you
totally taken that in stride?
Speaker 1 (42:22):
You know, Vick, I think I've really taken it in stride.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I can't say that growing up.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I can almost have like a little smirk on my
face when you hear people's you know, talking about, oh,
you know, there's nothing out there and all that. It's
almost like, well, I know better, you know, kinda I
guess gave me the profound, eye opening knowledge alty on
in my life. But like like I was saying, man,
(42:52):
there was no fear or any regret or any emotion
to thetual experience while it was happening, just like a
neutral experience emotionally. But I do think that growing up
and as an adult when I see stuff, it's just
(43:16):
like yeah, yep, yep, you know, kind of take that
and stride like I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Yeah, after an experience like that, everything else must seem
awfully tame. And I'm wondering that's such a profound experience
to wake up and find yourself in such a different
environment like that. It's an environment that you'd never expect
to be in. Do you think they might have done
something to you that made it so you weren't really
(43:45):
worked up and terrified, or do you think you weren't
terrified just because that's how you were wired.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
That's a great question, And I honestly this is you know,
and this is all by what you just think or
both you feel or you know, whatever they're's nothing to
back it up. Honestly, feel like they had my emotions
locked down that when I was like, no, I'm not
mom right, it's right there and I'm pointing at the
red ball for that sucking or two before I'm now
(44:15):
not there anymore. Then I remember, you know, feeling normal
feeling myself and I can move and you know, talk
and do everything like normal, and my emotions like no,
you know, I wasn't scared. It was actually beautiful to
look at. It was sparkler fireworks or something. And going
(44:35):
from that to now, and it wasn't like it wasn't
like I had went to sleep and was waking up,
But it was almost like just consciously coming to. It's
hard to explain or it was almost like if I
had been beamed up, Like while I was being beamed up,
there was a shut off switch and then now all
of a sudden, consciously I'm coming back to. But I
(44:58):
do feel like they emotionally had shut down everything. I
don't know how to explain it, Like there was just
no emotion zero, I wasn't scared, fear, I wasn't happy, nothing.
There was just no sense of emotion at all.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Well, that definitely beats you being terrified, So thank goodness
for that. That definitely, and your ability to explain an
experience normally depends upon your ability to compare that experience
to another that you've had. But holy cow, what experience
in your life could you have ever had that you
(45:38):
could compare this experience too. That is just unreal. I
don't want to lead you on this, Dave, but I
don't really see any of the way to ask this.
Then to ask you, when you consider everything involved, do
you think you might have been on the UFO when
this all happened.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I one hundred percent believe I was on a UFO.
That's to me in my mind. I that's the only
real explanation. I was physically on board something, whether it
was a building that was out there or whether it
(46:22):
was on a UFO. But I physically, well I shouldn't
say physically. I mean I could see my hand and
I could see my pajamas, and.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Physically it felt like I was there. But I felt
like I was on a UFO. Absolutely, Well, that's how
it reads.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
It sure sounds that way to me also, And I'm
not sure if you thought about this or not, but
you told us how you could see the sclera of
their eyes, the whites of their eyes. That shows that
they were surprised, and you led onto that as well.
If they were surprised, do you think maybe they weren't
responsible for you being there? Something else was.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Absolutely I don't know if my eyes were wide like
there's you know, like because that to me, that kind
of shows emotion. And if that's true, then they were
showing emotion where I didn't feel any emotion, which I
kind of think that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
I do believe they were in.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
The same situation I was, that they were abducted as
I was.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
They were there, they.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Weren't looking around like I was looking around. They were
looking directly at me, which I find very interesting too. Yeah,
I felt like there was surprise in their eyes that
that we were standing there together.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I guess I don't it's a good question.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
If they were more surprised by your presence than the
fact that they're possibly on a UFO themselves. That sure
makes it sound like you must have experienced that before
something was going on for them to be more taken
by you being there than them being in that place,
whatever it was, if it was a UFO or not.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I agree one hundred percent with that.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
It really makes you wonder how this works. That is
just crazy, it really is. After having that experience and
experience as profound as that, normally, after you go back
to quote unquote normal, the after effects have a way
of working their way into your life and different aspects
(48:36):
of your life. Has anything popped up in your life
that you can basically attribute to that experience that might
not be related to it, and in the way of
you being afraid of the woods or something like that,
but nonetheless you point to that experience of being abducted
and you think that experience is responsible for what for
(49:00):
after effect or after effects that you now experience in
your life.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's a great question. I can tell you.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I still to this day don't have no fear of
being abducted again, or alien beings attacking Earth or anything
like that. In one sense that I think it did
have an effect on my life was knowing that there
was other life out there.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
And.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
That I believe that made me grow up being more
of a skywatcher and like even daytime, nighttime, just constantly
looking up looking for stuff. And I've seen a lot
of interesting things, and even me and my wife and
my brother in law together have.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Seen some interesting things. So I think.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Growing up with that knowledge that there was these other
things out there that I think it it was almost
a comforting thing in a sense that you know, the
intelligence had to be far more beyond human intelligence, and.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That whatever whatever it was in that room that day,
that night. It was a night that night.
Speaker 5 (50:29):
If they wanted to scare me or hurt me or
put fear, if they were let's say, quote unquote demonic
or evil, they certainly wouldn't have made it a non
scary situation or a non painful situation.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
So there was comfort to that to me that maybe
they were.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Being nice to me and not scaring me or hurting
me that I can remember. If they blanked that part out,
then they somehow they blank that part out, which I'm
appreciative of that, But I would think the way it
changed me the most, nothing negative.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
I would say.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
The one thing it did was make me a knower
that there was things going on. Nobody could tell me different.
I didn't have to argue with anybody about it, just
growing up knowing and looking up and just knowing like
there's things out there, and.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
That I was out there, I guess is the best
way to say it.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
That I experienced something very few seemingly have experienced. And
I don't know why I was unless it was just
I happened to be awake that night and saw it
and that's why they took me.
Speaker 6 (51:45):
Or.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I can't explain why it happened, But I just I
actually sounds weird, Vic, But I'm actually kind of thankful
that I got to maybe my personality and the way
I'm wired. Maybe that's why is I'm okay with that.
But I wouldn't mind if it happened again right now,
(52:08):
to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (52:10):
Well, I'll be careful what you wish for. Maybe the
second time around wouldn't go as well.
Speaker 2 (52:15):
And that's true, that's true. Yeah, that's right. And I
can tell you this, tell you this too, Vick.
Speaker 1 (52:22):
Is when we grew up where we grew up, we
didn't have satellite TV or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
There was no movies.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
I didn't know anything about Patterson Jimlin until way later
in life, probably in my thirties or something, and so,
and I didn't have any idea about aliens or red
orbs or even sasquatch or anything like that. I mean,
(52:50):
we lived in area where everybody knew about, you know,
the name Bigfoot and stuff, the monster Bigfoot, but not
that he was real, and not that it was.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
No description of it or anything like that. So all
these things.
Speaker 1 (53:05):
As a kid, people's asked me, well, could have been
something you saw on TV? And you're just dreaming about it,
or you're it's like a when I can't remember lucid
dream type thing. And I can just honestly tell you,
I don't know how we could have had that input
into my mind, because we did. We had like ABC
(53:29):
and krc R with just like your local little channels
and PBS, like the three little local channels that we
could barely get in with a rabbit e or antennasy.
So I don't know how, you know, any of that
could have been inputed into my mind. So to me,
looking back, that that's kind of a profound thing too,
that it wasn't a dream or a memory that I
(53:55):
made up and now it's just become in my mind
a reality or something like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (54:01):
I do know what you're saying. And yeah, I don't
think you were dreaming either from the way you describe it.
I think somehow, some way it actually happened. But what
do you think the possibility is that the sasquatch were
responsible for you being there, but you being there was
an accident and that's why you could see the whites
of their eyes the way you did.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
That's an interesting thought.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
I I just looking at the way the situation was,
like how they were shocked, that shocked look on their face,
and the way us.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Four were all kind of like holding hands, kind of
like you would we were all four on lockdown together,
and the other beings they were doing their own little things.
If they were the ones responsible, I'm trying to word
just because it's a really good question. If they were
(54:57):
the ones responsible, it seems like they somehow.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
Had me there when they shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
Have, or we're surprised that I was because of the
look on their face. It was a look of like,
you know, what the heck is this kind of look
to their face. Their mouths weren't open, like gaping or nothing,
but their eyes were looking straight down at me like
who are you kind of look to them.
Speaker 4 (55:27):
Well, I can only imagine what them must have been
like to experience that is just crazy. And just like
the saying goes, somewhere in the world is the worst
doctor With that in mind, somewhere out there there is
a Barney Fife type sasquatch, a groomer pile. I wonder
if one of those sasquatch you're holding hands with, maybe
(55:50):
not directly, but maybe the big one. Maybe that one
was a gooomer pile Sasquatch and it used the wrong
vibrations and poof, you wound up there up on the
UFO with him and his family somehow.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
That's very possible. I can't argue, and I honestly I
couldn't tell you. But the best that I can say
is that it seemed like they were abducted the same
as I was. And that's just the feeling and looking
at situation, it's very possible.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Big, It's very possible there was a gomer pile mishap.
Speaker 4 (56:33):
Yeah, that might be what was going on. The reason
why I put that up there is an idea as
a possibility is if you have the technology to create
the UFO that can go from star to star and
travel that way, the odds of you having a faux
pas like that are really slim to none. There had
to be a reason for you being there, but there
(56:58):
are no apparent reasons. I mean, when people are abducted,
when they come back, they report after effects they were
probed they noticed later on little devices under their skin.
There are breadcrumbs basically, But with you, all these years later,
you still haven't found any reason for you being abducted.
(57:21):
Nothing was apparently implanted, nothing was apparently done to you.
So that's why I was asking all these questions such as,
do you think it was a faux pat Maybe maybe
one of the Sasquatch made a mistake, and we all
know that a lot of credible eye witnesses have reported
seeing them do things that are right on the edge
of being supernatural almost maybe they used vibrations or something
(57:45):
the wrong way by mistaken that's why you wound up there.
That's why I'm asking this question about everything's got a reason.
The more intelligence you have, if you're an alien and
you're that intelligent, like I said, the odds of you
making a mistake like that and having you wind up
there when you weren't supposed to be there, that's pretty
much slim to none. So that's why I'm back the
(58:07):
whole possibility of maybe the Sasquatch making a mistake and
that's why you you found yourself there. I don't know,
it's just so hard to wrap my head around.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Wow, mine too, And I love your kind of outside
the box thinking because I've pondered.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
That a lot.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
You know, why why would I have went you know?
Why would they have took me up there? There's obvious
if it was intentional, there had to be a reason.
And I, like you said, I can't find I don't
know why. I can't find a reason, I honestly, and
unless they somehow did things to me but blocked it out,
(58:46):
which doesn't go along. I mean, maybe there's good and
bad aliens and good and bad you know, bigfoot and
people and all that, and maybe they were nice and
blacked out any probing or whatever that they did medical
procedures or whatever, experiments or whatever, and maybe they blocked
(59:06):
it from my memory.
Speaker 2 (59:08):
And I can't I'm like you, I.
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Can't explain why I went through that without knowing that
there was some effect from it.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
It's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
Yeah, interesting doesn't do it any justice. I'm not sure
if you know it or not. But when most people
will come back and are revived from a near death experience,
a lot of them go through a depression because what
they experienced on the other side was so extreme. It
makes life seem so boring, and it was so rewarding
and so pleasant. Also on the other side, when they
(59:44):
come back to life, they're just so bored. Life is
so boring. And dull compared to what they experienced on
the other side, after you had such an extreme experience,
did you experience anything like that afterwards where you found
life to be so boring and compared to what you
experienced uff there or wherever you were, this is just dull, you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Know, somewhat.
Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Yeah, not necessarily depression, I'm I guess I've had little
bouts of depression, not anything extreme, but.
Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, I guess. And especially almost frustration where like the
I don't know how to.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Explain, like the the naysayers and how people get laughed
at and just like we did it the family that
lived down the road. You know, we didn't laugh at
them to their face, but we thought they were strange
and kind of like, man, can you believe they said that?
And you know when it's kind of that same thing, like, well,
I know what I saw and experienced, and what's some
(01:00:57):
of what's out there or here on earth.
Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
And to hear people ah blah blah blah and ridicule
and deny, including governments and all that, I would say
there's instead of a depression, there's more.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Of a frustration about it. Well, and I know, and
like you said, as far as the other side, or
I don't know. If I had a near death experience.
Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I don't know. Maybe I did, Maybe that was the
choking part. I have no idea and I have no
idea how that to connect, if it does at all, But.
Speaker 8 (01:01:32):
That that if if in fact I was on a
UFO and I was out in space, I want to
go see what's out in space.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I want to go explore. I guess so it does.
This does seem somewhat boring and minuscule when you look
at the what could be the broad picture.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Well, I bet it does you compared to that. Yeah,
life is boring in minuscule, but you never know. Like
I said, be careful what you wish for. Someday down
the road, you just might get a chance to go back.
It's really hard to say. But having said that, Dave,
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
the details of those experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You're very welcome, Vic, I'm very very glad you'd invited me,
and it's been an honor.
Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Well, it's been great having me here. Thanks again so
much for your time, and have a great night. That's
it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Kundiff.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
If you've had a sasquatch encounter and.
Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Would like to be a guest on the show, please
go to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a report.
Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
We'd love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have
a great night.
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