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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Alan Ross. I am a tracker of
sasquatch on Vancouver Island and I've been doing this since
well at fourteen years old, in the village of Gold
River on Vancouverrelan, BC, Canada. And it's a well known
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area or sasquatch related activity in the past and president
right to date. We have accounts. I've been sasquatching probably
within a fifty mile radius if you draw a circle
from the center of town all the way around, which
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really covers a lot of territory on this island river
and it's bush, log bush. We got slash areas log
I was uh many roads. Oh, I love loggers for roads.
They sure get me into some deep bush on Vancouverad.
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I've been my first town. How to get into sasquat
Let's see, I'll uh, I'll go back to when I
was sixteen years old for a vocalization that blew me away.
I actually never I never went back to the area
hunting there again. Threw violent and aggressive. I was fifteen year,
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sixteen years old, and I went hunting for the first time,
deer hunting in the winter there in the season. I
went up a logan, sat behind the stump. Now my
problem was I left way too early in the morning.
I got up to my stump where I've already out
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day before, sat there in the dark released an hour,
didn't hear a thing for an hour. Now I can
hear these crashes through the bush, thinking it was an elk.
I figure, oh, one elk coming down through the bush.
And now it started to throw branches and raw and
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grunt and growls. Now I'm thinking, oh my goodness, I'm
in the dark with a bloody wild bear. Oh my, well,
it got even worse, and now it's moving stuff. Like
I tell you, I must have thrown the log that
must have weighed the four hundred pounds onto the road
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from where I was, I'll probably got two feet down
the logging road, up on the bank, sitting behind a
giant stump, listening to this in the pitch black still,
And that was the vocalized the grunts. You can't describe
what I heard because I've never heard him before and
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I've never heard again, so it's hard to tell you
what it sounds like. For a sound. It was violent
whatever was out there, and I didn't realize it was
probably a sasquatch. But ten years later in my life
that I realized that was probably a sasquatch from listening
to other podcasts accounts through the years. Yeah, that would
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have been my first account with a sasquatch. That was
at sixteen, and I've I got me going even more there.
I never hunt back that area it was. They did
log it eventually, so it's not feasible to go back
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there now it has been bugged out. And what thirty
with that account? So yeah, that got me into more
on the island. There's something out there. Three the years, Well,
it didn't happen overnight. I come fifty nine now and
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that's been a few years. I've been trekking around these
bushes on Vancouver Island and holy cow, man, there's just
too much in forty years of trekking. Where do you
have start? When do I see them? You don't see
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them at first. You hear them out here. Camping, we
go camping at lakes to all the lake come to
make If you google them up by Gold River you'll
find two giant lakes. Much At Lake is a major
campsite for people. It's a recreational campsite. Cunnon Lake is not.
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It's a wild mountain lake. Donner Lake's a wilder mountain
lake above Cunnen Lake, and there's groups of sasquatches up there.
We come across over the years, just going back and forth,
back and forth. I spend a lot of times in
an areas. When I do find evidence of sasqu you
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go back. I've got three nests right now. Surprised me.
They're building a third nest in an area I just
came from yesterday. I was out looking at two nests
and yeah, I just I holy cow, where to start.
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We got a group of sasquatch. We got a white
one on the highway, which had been seen on the
highway twenty times in ten years, at least by people.
He just stands on the highway, big white, nine foot
white as polar bear white. It's incredible. His hair's seven
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to eight didn't too long from head to toe. He's
he's about seven seven nine feet tall. I saw him.
My first time I saw him was twenty twenty twelve,
twenty twelve in December. I saw him on the highway
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a crossing the river as I go about. He didn't
know he was there. He didn't even know the river
or the highway was there because the river was making
too much noise. We called, you know, he just didn't know,
and I couldn't stop. There was way too much snow
inside the road. So that was the first time I
saw him. There's a black one, not the logging helicopter bad.
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He's about nine feet tall, round face, always round, and
his hair is about this tall above his nintua two
inches around his face. It's just like a crew cut.
Oh is here or something? I got a picture of
him reaching his handle towards us. I got to pictures
of hem doing that behind the tree. I got a
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picture him. Oh is he ever? I described? But he
looks like hold the cow. You got a flat nose.
He a flat nose like a I guess it'll be
like in the wranguing ting lips, black lips, kind of
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a white ash around his eyes, and he's just around
his head and his face. It really is just d
own hair. It's around like a like a ball a plate.
If you put a you know, a lunch plate up
to him. That's what the side of his face. And
I looked for him a while ago, but we didn't
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find him. He looked me in the area they'd been
up there working from loggers, which I didn't know about,
so I didn't find him up there three days ago.
I spend a lot of time in the bush. I
can be in this forest out here four times a day.
I've got a dog. I take him out. We hit
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game trails. We'll just stop inside of the road in
the game trail and go and where we are stepping
on Sasquatch footprints. I've got too many footprints. Picture the footprints.
Who you know. I don't see him done. But we
got some good ones. You got some bad ones. We
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got questionable ones. We got double step ones. You know
their footprints in the bush. We don't see them done.
We just come across them, find them, take pictures of them.
Videos A boy Vancouver on Sasquatch Headquarters is a site
I run here and Godriver on Facebook and there's a
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lot of videos and pictures of me and my buddy
to go out sasquatching every two days. For sure, it's
the thing I do with here. I'm retired, been retired
for a few years. Yeah, Sasquatches. Watch one about the people. Oh,
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I got one out the horse barns. There's a monster,
holy cow. Talk about it. I've never seen a two
thousand pounds sasquatch yet until seven eight months ago. I guess.
I was out there walking up a logging road. I'll
just open my dog. Really, we're all walking going up
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along the road up a hill, which is ninety percent
of what's out here or hills. It wasn't much of
a hill, but I got to the top of the
crest in there with a cross ditch whether you let
the water run through so it doesn't mark the roads
away up here, and lots of cross ditches. I crossed
through the ditch. I kicked the rock, and then they
kicked the rock. I look up and there is the
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giant sasquatch turns and turned sideways to me and looks
at me, and it's like, no way, that can't be
what I think it is. I'd like that. Like if
you ever watched the movie The Hulk, this all you
do is put hair on that creature in the movie,
you would have got what I saw. He was humongous.
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His arms are about three feet round. Yeah, he was
about ten feet tall, redish brown hair, Oh, and it
was it was a foot long from head to toe
on him. Seriously, all the hair was a foot to
twelve to fourteen inches long. It was incredible, his whole
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ball right down to his feet, his legs. I got
to be probably eighty yards from him before I lost
sight of him, and he took off around the corner,
and then he did disappear night. I walked to where
he was sitting and caught him off guard. Holy cow,
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was he humongous? What? And then they got that big
on the island. But yeah, everything quit sightings and nothing
sticks around. I've never been confronted by a sasquatch face
to face. They've always they've either stood there in the
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background and we don't notice them because we're not looking
where or or they run. I caught one that the
old Native reserve here that's moved out. I caught a
sasquatch on the river at the back of them, and
where he went into the bush along the river edges,
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I would have had to crawl on my hands and knees.
He will come close to where he would have been,
and there's no way I would have done that. But
we just saw on the back of him for two
seconds and he was on all fours, ran eight seat
out of sight. So I don't harass sasquatches. The group
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of seven that we got in the background. A friend
of mine was panning and he panned too quick, but
he did catch seven sasquatches, black ones, all black in
the background. And I sent the video to a friend
of mine to show him. He'd you lead the video.
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And now I can't find my video again, so I
am looking for it. It's a good video, you know.
Put on a giant screen TV. You get the first
left fastquatching the background. You've got a good picture of them.
So I don't harass them. How do I find them?
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Let's see, there's a lot of territory out here. It's
taken a long time sectioned off. I've got Musha Lake.
There's twelve kilometers north Island. It goes up Island. Twaddle
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Lake is south and there's a lake up there where
we got vocalizations with a gem and I brought up
from Courtney, so he was pretty excited. He found footprints
himself and uh, we got a good vocalization out there
with him. Donor in Coundon Lake, those are two wild
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mountain lakes. Coundon for sure has a group of sasquatch
up there. From evidence, you know tree breaks footprints. Uh,
I don't. I don't collect any evidence. I'm an evidence collector.
I'm not actually a researcher. I've been tracking sasquatches. I
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like to find them be where they are. A lot
of my videos on Vancouround Sasquatch headquarters. That's that's what
I do. That's how I do it. I just go
in the bush. I find a nice deep embedded game trail,
which usually divides off into three other trails one hundred
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feet in the bush, more shorter, and then you go
from the deepest one there and follow with So I
used to stay in the deepest game trails because you've
got a twelve fourteen hundred pound creatures step in there too.
So they do leave indentse in our fourth floor. So
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the track them and yave. You know, they touch the
same tree over and over again on their trails, and
I believe sasquatching bears use the same trails to cover
up each other's scent. And you come across the fir tree,
you'll find rub marks up five feet up where it's
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been smooth and off and shiny. You know, they do
put their hands on trees. They touch trees they use
trees for leverage and moving through the bush out here
on Donku Island. I think they spend ninety of their
time on all fours in the bush because it's much
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easier traveling. Like black Bear, You're not going through a
lot of hillel and yeah, our bush can get really
stick out here. Extreme. I've been stuck and had to walk. Yeah,
we've been stuck. We've been stuck in the bush because
you can't get through it. Basically you've got to go
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around trees, branches, bushes. Berry bushes can get really thick
and they're nine to ten feet tall. Yeah. You take
a look at the videos and the around Sansquatch headquarters
on Facebook, you'll see a lot of just me running
around the bush. That's really all I do is spend
time in the forest with them. And maybe you catch
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a when background that I miss because I do catch
them in my own videos, Like I'm going through a
bunch of videos now, so we catch us watching videos
on the page I travel up island. You know, people
have invited me up. We see a lot of tree breaks.
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That's the main thing people love, tree breaks, tree breaks
and game trails on the island here kind of go together.
We found out if we get a broken older tree
on our we walk a lot of roads to get
us into a forest area. So we'll go on from
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a main gravel road into a smaller, overgrown, older road,
which will lead into the bigger timbers, which where we go.
You know, we like the big timbers and they're polka
doted all through the North Island here. Yeah, if you
look at the picture, you'll see it. If you look
go see the pictures on the site, you'll see how
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Vancouverround has been logged out. The sasquatchers on Vancouver Island,
they come and go from Alert Bay. Alert Bay has
vocalizations every spring. Sasquatches come from the mainland. They swim
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one mile to one island, then they swim a mile
to another island, and then they swim a mile to
Alert Bay, which is a native village just off of
Vancouver Island, and that's how they get onto Vancouver Island.
They do swim back and forth, they have for centuries.
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I'm trying to think out here, it's a Native like,
it's not a white man thing, sasquatch. It's a Native legend,
Native stories. Native history is in the Sasquatches here. There's
different names. Every tribe's got a different name for the
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Sasquatterers and Vancouver Allen's got a lot of tribes out here,
a lot of natives. Their stories are cool because they
go back hundreds of years. They talk about, you know,
ancestors being hunting the bush withood them. Yeah. The natives
tell good stories, but it is their culture, the Sasquat's
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there's just something I got into when I was younger
from the Gimlin films. Yeah, so I really got into
it watching Patty on TV back when I was a
young boy with only two channels on my TV. Yeah,
I would have been Patty. That got me excited. Hey,
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look Sasquat cool. Let's cool. Van Kurellan has a history
of them for centuries. They've been on the island. Natives
mush the hairry. There's a good Native story for you.
It's like the uh or or Its means what you
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gotta go kidnap for three days? Yeah, mushall hairy too.
You got taken from the Kanuma River and the Knoma Rivers.
I've been to it. It's a beautiful area, but in
a thousand years it's chure changed one hundred years, the
church changed hundred one hundred years, that whole area changed.
So the Kanuma River is a beautiful area. Have been
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way up the back of it, and yeah, I sually
Mushall Harry game kidnap back there. I got pictures of
us back there, video of us way up in the
Conoma River where Mrushall Harry was kidnapped. It was a
native trapper back in the eighteen hundreds, eighteen in seventy something.
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Maybe somewhere there goes back. He was living in Friendly Cove,
Nitka Island where Captain cooklanded, kind of a historical place,
Gold River. So Captain cooklanded twenty miles from where we
are today. And there's sasquatch on that island today, Nitka Island.
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It's a Native island. The friends there and they tell
me you hear stories. People do come up to me
up here in Gold River and say, oh, we heard,
We've seen, we heard up here to the water tower.
And there's a thousand people that live in my village.
And we have a water tower that's probably half a
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kilometer straight up the main road. And we had a
gentleman up there walking the dog good, and he won't
talk about it. I try to talk to he denies it,
but he did tell somebody that he saw sasquatch. He
didn't believe in them at all. That's why he didn't
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talk about it. But he did chane sasquatch up there,
him and the dog. He sasquatch walking right in front
of him at the water tower. The next day after
a friend of mine and his wife and two dogs
went up to the water tower to check it out
because a friend of mine's really into sasquatching as well,
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and him nice. This guy goes seeing the videos Steve
Vancourall and Forest Junkie. Oh, I can't keep him out
of the bush. Boy. Once our car door is open,
he's he's gone. Yeah, he went up there and got
a vocalization. Yes, he got chased out of there, him
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and his wife. His wife made him come back to
the car. The dogs ran back to the vehicle, but
he got a heck of a vocalization. They found one
giant footprint with three twenty dollar bills, and the print
was still bigger and wider than those twenty dollar bills.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
What's been the most amazing experience, as someone shared with
you about a sasquatch encounter that happened on the island.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I guess it would have been a camper. I just
got invited down the island with a guy. I was
talking to him two or three days ago. Now he
just invited me down to Nanaimo because of an account
at one of the lakes. Him and his girlfriend. He
got up and went to the washingroom, but three in
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the morning, and something lured him further from the campsite,
like from the tent. And when he was away from
the tent, something great the tent and sheok it violently
with his girlfriend in there. Well, she let out one
heck of a scream. He came running back, Uh and
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nothing do nothing there. So he called me up the
other day and said, hey, you got to come out.
There's you know, there's some action happening here something. And
he told us the story. But his girlfriend she doesn't
want to go back. Yeah, no, it but it shook
the whole tent. That actually moved, like moved the tent.
Two man tent, free man tent, one small one and
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wasn't a giant one small little too man tent. It
actually moved the whole tent. It didn't just shake it.
It slid across the ground like it was pulling her away.
Oh yeah, he he was excited. He wants me to
come down there. So a friend and I. As soon
as he gets back from Nova Scotia. He's back there
for Davis days. And uh, well he'll be back next
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week and we're gonna go down to Naimo and hit
the lates for about three days. And because that account
just happened, ah well ten days ago, now I guess
would have been. Yeah, but ten days ago he said
somewhere there, So I get maybe the long weekend in
May that could be it. Now, maybe that's what it was,
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a long weekend the May. And yeah, she won't go
back to that area. So that's the last account I've
heard on Vancouver Adam was the long weekend of May.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Well, I can understand why she would want to go back.
That's pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
To move the tent. Even I've heard attention being shaken,
but never actually moved and in polled like she said,
this was poled her about four or five feet towards
bullsh Well, he was lued away. You said, see heard
the noise. You know our rock is thrown or something,
and he went just went to investigate, and it took
him another twenty feet from the tent. And this block
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out here, this new moonlight, the mountains and trees. You
get in the bush, you're in the camp site, you
can't see your hand from your face. It's dark. You know,
there's no there's no light if you're in some of
these areas out here were especial where Steve and I
go camping. We don't camp. The camp says there's an
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activity in camp site, but we just don't do them.
We're in the bush, sleep outside sometimes when you have
my kid, just roll up on the ground and go
to sleep, curl up in sleeping bag, and that's where
we stay. It's nice. We'd never been eaten by a
bear of cougar out here yet, so we're doing pretty good.
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More sasquatching and grabbed us. So yeah, we're doing pretty
good out here. I don't know how long I'm going
to keep it up for my body after you know,
it's fifteen sixteen years old. I've been out in the bush, walking, hiking, driving.
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Day's nights nights, so boy, we do a lot of
night adventures too. Yeah, that's a lot of time I've
been out here doing that. There's nothing. There's no real
exciting wild bang stories with me. Sasquats have not confronted
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us ever. They've always turned and run the other way,
or we just missing in the background of our videos.
We've never had I've had good vocalizations. Oh yeah, we've
had some nice howls off of whoops. I got nine
beautiful whooped off a mountain that just echoed to our
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campsite one time out of the Hebrew River, and we're
out there for I think we spent ten days out
there at that time. I've learned out here, if you're
gonna go sasquatching four days or more, you've got to
be in the bush and the further in the bush yard,
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the better you need to find water, any kind of water.
There's three different streams. You either got a creek, a brook,
or stream. I guess I don't know stream brook. You know, smaller,
smaller and small lest never drink out of a little
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small stream. They're probably their toilet and and the bigger ones. Yeah,
we don't drink a lot of creeks out here because
we believe Sasquatch washed themselves in a lot of the
creeks when we're in, so we do take water. You
need that out here for sure, especially in August. A
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lot of creeks dry out. So if you find a
creek in the island, you know got water, you stay
on it. You'll find parallel trails following creeks out here,
and trails going to creeks. Sasquatching water, I really believe,
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or really together. They need water a lot all the time,
the early water from the Sasquatches, at least on the island.
I assume I don't get off the island. I've been
to Hope, which is on the main land. I've been
up there. I've been squaw Ash Sasquatching, which is another
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small little villa out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah,
I just stay up and go river. I don't need
to go anywhere else. Really, it's just if I want
to go and be with Sasquatches. Is not that difficult.
After what I've the areas are go in. You've got
to get in the right areas for a time and
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you'll get We got a group of seven miles of
the town within oh i'd say a fourteen mile circle,
which is quite a bit out here. If you centered
where they were grew fourteen miles around. That's a lot
of territory for a Sasquat chuteness then, and there's a
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group up there. I was out looking at some nests.
I got some video of a nest they made a
couple of years back, two years now, came across the
nesting site and I went out there yesterday and they're
building a third nest in the area. So I'm going
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to go be going back and forth in that area
for a while now, just to see how that nest is.
The third nest has come along. It wasn't there last year.
Well ife when I was out there seven months ago,
I was back out there in that area. Yeah, so
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I'm gonna go check out again there. So there's three
nesting areas and the third one is being built. That
that's pretty cool. That's one of my first videos on
my page. Bank around Sasquatch headquarters. That's one of the
first videos you see is the nests. There's two there
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and then another one in the back their building. So
I haven't got a video of that one yet, but
I will go back when my buddy shows up from Newfoundland.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
When he gets home considering the fact you have both
brown beers and sasquatch on the island, how do you
think the two interact with each other.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I think they use each other. I think they're using
the cover up they're scent for hunting. And the elk.
I think sasquatch eat a lot of elk because it's
such an easy meal and it would feed, you know,
a family of seven. One elk would feed a family
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of seven. And we do come across bones, you know,
the skulls, backbones, leg bones, not a whole carcass, but
we do come across a lot of bones in the bush,
just on little wheat trails are following off trail. I
like to go off trail because that's where you find stuff. Yeah,
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five feet off a good main game trail, you can
find a carcass over a log, like a whole carcass
of an elk or a deer. We come across more
elk bones, So elk dear smaller creatures on the island elite.
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But I really think the main food source is elk.
And we do got the ocean, you know, the clans.
I'm well, it doesn't matter which way you go, you're
gonna hit the ocean within ten miles in any direction,
really you'll end up on ocean here. So that's nice
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for being drawn on it. The seafood is incredible out here,
so I mean you picture a Sasquatson on the beach,
crawling towards the seal, you know, a two hundred pound seal,
and boy, that would be a meal. I haven't found.
I don't hang around beaches. There are no beaches here
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where I am. I got a big inlet with rock
walls on both sides, and there's two thousand feet deep
all the way to the open ocean. Oh you know,
all eight nine miles. There's no beaches. It's hard to
find a beach out here for us. I got to
dry probably about forty kilometers to hit an oyster beach
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where I could pick oysters and clim and you know,
be on the beach. Otherwise it's a rock cliff everywhere,
and are in lit. Yeah, so rugged. West Coast. If
you went towards Taffino, it's mountains and bush from here
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to the Feno nothing there, no roads, no loging, no nothing,
It's just straight sasquatch mountain bush. Oh uh, West Coast
is rugged. I'm ten miles from the ocean inland pretty
well the heart of Vancouver Island. If you mapped Gold
River and took a look at the island, we're just
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about the heart of it. It's pretty good. Small little
village in the bush mountains, lots of lakes. We've got
a few giant caves. There's lots of caves. Really, it's
a cave capital of Canada Island.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'd like to make it the Sasquatch Capital of Canada,
but Gold every won't go for that. They are promoting
Sasquatch in Gold River. Now, we do have a shirt
company that promotes a lot of Sasquatch logos. That's pretty
cool there. I'm known as the Sasquatch guy in Gold River.
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Any Sasquatch questions or anything, people come to me. But
I've been here forty year, over forty years doing it.
So of course, small town thousand people, well, yeah they
get you know, the people in town know about them.
It's not a hidden subject out here. Exactually, well, it's
a We had bender kom By the conference we had
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two summers ago. That was a good conference. We had
had a few natives chief from up Island talk about
their Sasquatch. They belief there. It's interesting to get a
different view from somebody who you know, carves and makes
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masks a Sasquatch. You know they're connected with them. So
it's pretty nice to be able to talk to natives.
They're pretty open with me here now, you know. But uh,
someplace done on and you can't talk about the Duncan.
Don't put to Duncan. Asks about Sasquatches on the river,
Oh boy, you won't get any information. Nobody will tell
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you about them, but Duncan on the river during salmon season.
The vocalizations are crazy down there, but nobody talks about it.
Nobody records them. It's this daily thing out there for
a lot of natives, and it is big reserve down Duncan,
so it's a daily thing for them to hear them.
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They don't get excited. It's it's us researchers, or the
researchers get excited. I love tracking them. They're from the track.
I've got footprints. I don't collect DNA because I got
no where to do anything with it. I got nowhere
to send it, no where to ship it. There's nothing
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out here, and I sure can't afford it, so I
could find fourteen poop samples of a sasquatch and never
do anything with it. Hair in the nest. We're gonna
go look Actually, when my buddy gets back, we're going
to go look for hair. A friend of mine wants
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to he wants to try the DNA at down island.
I got a guy in Nanaimo sasquat, and Nanaimo wants
me to collect some hair samples. So it's tweezers and
paper bag and gloves. So we'll get in there and
do scientific stuff and we'll do it for him. He's
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a cool little sasquat. Yeah, you're the.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Perfect person to ask this. Is there anything you can
think of the sasquatch do on the island there that
they are reported doing elsewhere?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Swim? Yeah, yeah, they sasquatches strong swimmers. That's not there's
no current. They go with the tide high tied low tide.
They would use the tides to go from one mile
to the next island, one mile to the next island.
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They do it. They've been doing it for years up
in their being. That's the only strange thing that they
would do here that they wouldn't be doing anywhere else. Yeah,
they swim, they're strong swimmers. But we got video of cougars,
elk deer bears swimming across. We do have about seventy
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grizzly bears up island working their way on the island now,
so that's new in the last seven years. Grizzly bears
were never on the island before, but now we've got
at least seventy residential grizzly bears up here. I haven't
run into one. I don't want to. Black bears we
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can handle. I can run into any kind of black bear,
that's never been a problem over forty years. But a
grizzly bear on a dead elk or deer I could
be in trouble. So that's my only wish is not
to run into a grizzly bear on the island. So
they shouldn't be here. They should have been exported off,
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exported off the island right away. But you know game
more than you know forestry. They're on the island now.
So we got grizzlies, black bear, cougars, wolves and everything
smaller raccoons, fevers, otters, pine martins, weasels, many grout. What's
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a wild game for a sasquat heat there is. Vancouver
is the perfect habitat for a island sasquatch. I mean
with the ocean, all the sea life, I mean, just
to grab one seal would teat you for a day
if you were a sasquatch. So I think we have
two different groups. I call them inland and ocean. I
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got ones that live on the ocean, you know, they
rely on the ocean. And I got ones that really don't.
They spend more time eating berries, mushrooms, skunk, cabbage, roots, bark.
You know, they're inland creatures more than the sea ones
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at the ocean, but they probably do them both. You know,
I'd rip a leg off a starfish and needed the
sasquat octopus catching octopus in a little sheltered bay. Oh yeah,
there's food for sasquat. They flourished, I know that. And
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ten feet tall maxham height on the island, never anything
more than ten feet. They do break trees. They are
vocal on the island. We have vocalizations. They've been spotted
on the island since eighteen o nine. You know, there's
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a count on Vancouver Island back in eighteen o nine
and Campbell, Courtney, Duncan. They are reports of them. Courtney
used to be a hotspot in between Courtney and Campbell,
but now it's all houses. But that was a hotspot.
It had run back and forth to the ocean and
to the rivers where the salmon are coming up. A
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lot of little streams have a hold. You know, two
hundred salmon in one of the pond pool. Oh, yeah,
that'd be a sasquatch you like. I don't know when
the fish are running right now, it's other than now
or soon. I'm not too sure. I have to look
it up. When the salmon back in the river. I
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don't spend a lot of time on the rivers. Yeah,
to catch a sasquatch on the river, good buck. You
catch them in the bushing fish more on the river
in my assumption. So there's lots of salmon, lots of rivers.
Most of them got trout, salmon, steelhead in them. Every
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lake has fishing it out here, doesn't matter how big
the lakes are. Yeah, I mean, but yeah, anything but
a pond, you know what I mean? No swamps there's
no uh, no fish, no swamps they dry up. Yeah,
it's just a habitat. It's perfect out here for them,
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mountains valleys.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
It'd be a perfect place for me. I've always wanted
to live there. It's such a beautiful place. I'm green
with envy. You sure a lucky man to be able
to live there. Have all the sasquatch you've seen on
the island there alan had conical crests on the top
of their heads, or do some of them have rounded heads?
Speaker 1 (43:42):
They're all round, They're not. They're not concre at all
at all, any of them, Like even that big one.
I saw his head. It was like an orangutang head
on a Sasquatch body. And I guess what, Yeah, had
bigger lips, His face was black. I guess his eyes
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were kind of whitish, like he looked right at me.
Now I got to be able forty feet away, and
he got up and ran like a quarter horse coming
out of the starting gate, like he was gone within
three steps. I got out of the cross stitch, got
up the road, went to where he was. I was.
It was quite a deep ditch ogden, so I didn't
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get a good view, and I was still going uphill.
So he cressed over the hill and went down to
the left into the bush, into the where the I
guess it's a creek. There's a good sized creek that
flows there, and that's why i'm in back. A friend
of mine says he's a watcher, and he actually stays there.
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He's a watcher, and that's why he's so big. He's on.
I didn't get into what the watcher was with my
buddy because he's way down and I don't even know where.
He's somewhere down south like you guys. Yeah, he said
he's a watcher, but I don't harass him. That's the thing.
I know that there. I know him go back and
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be with them. I was there probably two weeks ago.
I went for a hike in there just to look,
just to listen. I spent a lot of time listening
to the bush. Yeah, I don't even there's days I'll
go there three times a day. I do have a dog,
so I got to take him. But there's time to
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just go out there, just me and my dog, just
to go out and sit in the stump, have a
cigarette and listen for half an hour to nothing, hoping
to hear that's the thing you're hoping. You're hoping to
get a vocalization in areas. But yeah, I did, like
seven minutes. I'm in the bush. Any direction I go,
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I can be out of my car, walk in the deep,
thick bush and get lost in the mountain. Oh we
do too, don't let me. Yeah, I don't. I do
get lost. We have been lost in the bush yesterday.
I got misplaced because the ferns in the bush are
six feet high. I'm five to nine and the ferns
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in my video are taller than I am, and I
got misplaced. I tried to do the I just I did.
I got. I had to do a circle to get
back to get out. Hey, I got the nest. I
left my nest area and I tried to stay to
the left along the ridge and make my way back
to the car. That didn't work. I end up in
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some pretty thick trees that had come down, and I
didn't know we're there. So I had to go back
to the nest start over. So I did one big
circle hoping to catch something in the background or a vocalization.
So you know, it was kind of a weird video.
I but yeah, it was a good time. But yes,
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I had been lost in the bush longest I've been
in the bush lost probably two hours. How do you
get out of the bush? Well, I learned what the
mountain tops look like, okay out here, because when you're
in the bush, you cannot see the mountain talks until
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you come to an area where you can look through
the trees, which is few and far between at times.
So Steve and I can get lost in the bush.
We get on a game trail and your head's down
and you're either making a video or you're not. But
you're in the bush two hundred yards and you're on
another game trail fifty feet. You find a better game
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trail ten feet. You turn around, going, oh, what direction
do we go back? And Steve will he's no good.
He he is Steve, my buddy's not a direct small guy.
I've learned that right away when he's in the bush lost,
that dude's lost. So I get us out of the bush.
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But two hours up, two and a two hours, two
and a half hours. We can walk around until I
can find a mountaintop and get my bearings and then
turn around figure out which way we got to get
out of. But uh, I've never been lost in the
bush for more than three hours, I'd say, not even lost,
just trying to get out, trying to get out of
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the bush. Yeah, you can get You can get in
up on the swamp area and you have to walk
around six hundred feet and it's like, oh boy, that
and now you are lost to walk around and it's like, well,
we didn't come across this morning. We got in here,
so yeah, you can't get misplaced enough bush here easily
on game trail, which we do. And uh as you
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can see him here today, so I'm not lost. So
we do get out, but we do get in place.
Lots of times we get carried away and we're on
like here, he'll be eighty feet to the right of me,
my buddy on a different trail going different direction, and
then my dog will running between me and him, me
and him, and then I'm gonna go find him. It's like, okay,
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where's Steve. Oh Steve up there down there? Oh bye,
you've got the river, you know, It's like, oh, what
are you doing way down there? So yeah, we can
get Yeah, it's fun. We have a good time chasing
sasquatch out here, chasing you know, signs of wonders, you know,
tree breaks. We love tree breaks. There's some good three
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breaks out here. You never know what's doing that. Bears
do it. I know that black bears do break trees
from seven feet down. A sasquatch will be seven feet up.
That's the difference out here. If you see a tree
break that's less than seven feet, it could be a
black bear. But then defends on the tree too, So yeah,
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you gotta guess. Well, you know, sathquatching is a guessing game.
You know, we guess. We don't see him doing it
all the time, so we hear it. You know, we
got a beautiful tree knock a while ago, one one
beautiful echo in the bush. My wife and I were
out at the lake and just one knock on the
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tree and echoed. It was a long about a mile
two miles away. I'd say the original knock, but the
echo was loud and it echoed down the lake. And
no sasquatch in the area, So yeah, I believe it
was the sasquatch knocks not We only got one sasquatch
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in Gold River. It's a woman. Uh, she goes out
with her friend, well, okay, two of them, but they
go back up to their own area. I don't. We
don't taskquatch. What they do. That's her area and they
get evidence up where they are. But I don't cross
the line and go over and say, oh you got
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a footprint, Well let's go up there. And you don't
go to help you. No, they do it themselves. We
don't team up. Marrying's a good girl. She's she's a
good taskwatcher. She's got pictures, video brave, she'll take off
anyod bookshir and her dog and her friend. They're good saskquatchers.
They are. They know what you're doing, they know what
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you look for. Marrying's a good sasquatch. I like her.
She's and she's doing one in town that actually goes
out looking for sasquatches and uh yeah, people wait, you
know you put a title like, oh, I'm a sasquatcher,
Well they think you're crazy right away. So it's quite
a it's quite a subject. It can get you in
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trouble or people like you. You know, the only two
ways will go. They think you're crazy or they're gonna
like you. But I am chasing you know, twelve to
fourteen hundred pound creatures in the bush, which is really
kind of weird in the first place. I do chase
anybody anything, video photographer. I like videoing bears. I was
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chasing them three weeks ago. We got video bears. You
chasing the bush. So I do chase wild creatures, elk, deer, bears, sasquatch,
you know, we do. I mean, I'm chasing mild things.
People think you're crazy. You're chasing a fourteen hundred pound creature.
I could just rip you apart, like yeah, yeah, I've
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been doing it for years. So yeah, but bears can.
We got bears who walk right to our trailer park,
right through town. Pack of wolves will walk right to town.
And we got a problem with the cougar three weeks ago,
so that, you know, you get used to it. Win
the wild here. And we got a sasquatch sighting half
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a mile up the main road to the water tower,
you know, and that's bush too, for you know, forty
miles the straight bushy be kept going. There's no logging
roads at all in that direction until you hit the ocean. Really,
so yeah, there's a lot of bush and mountain here.
If you map it out from Gold River and look around,
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make your map bigger and bigger, like Cunning Lake, Twaddle Lake. Oh,
they're beautifully wild. Big lakes. Yeah, big lakes. Good camping,
good water, good camping. Sasquatch in the area, logging roads
that walk up bush to get into. You know alders,
fur trees you know that are five feet round at
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the butt. You know there's got some big trees out here.
Still beautiful habitat and it changes every corner. Every two
miles is different. The habitat is different. You got rockier,
you have muddier, you got swampier areas.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's a beautiful place, no wonder they like to call
that place home. You told us about the polar beer,
a white one that you saw with a eight inch
long here, Alan, how do you think it is that
a white sasquatch like him could sneak up on game
if it's not a dark color.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
I don't think they move. I think they'll shit on
a good like game. Trail gets used you you know
he did prints. They know they can smell a deer's
foot on the ground when it walks by, so they
know the deer will come through there. Their sense of
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smell is God be incredible. Their eyeshight's God be incredible.
They're hearing. They're hearing has to be like, there's not
one road I could drive down for two kilometers without
my vehicle echoing ahead of us, Like they know we're coming.
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It doesn't matter what direction are you going and what
logging road or what I'm driving. My vehicle echoed down
the valleys. It does. You can't help it. And then
when you stall your vehicle, they hear it. They know, Yeah,
they know that you've stopped and you're in the area. Yeah,
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that white one was. I haven't seen him, but he
was ten into a town last summer. A woman did
see him on the side of the road. You're just
standing there, she said, just standing on the side of
the road. She drove by, and he was. She said,
he's probably twenty feet from the trees in where she
saw him in the ditch on a corner. So he
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got in the ditch on a corner, standing pretty well
on the shoulder of the road. And she drove by
Hunters down the next day at the gas station and
told us about it. She said, oh, yeah, I saw
a sad squatch yesterday when I was coming home. She
was no big deal, she said, yeah, I just saw him,
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just kept going, just go buy. He was standing there.
He said, yeah cool, Yeah, it was neat. So he's
been around a long time, that one. He's probably the
oldest one that has stories because he gets seen on
the highway. That's what we call him, the highway sod Squatch.
He goes from the Mayby Falls, I guess, all the
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way in the goldherever you can see him. So he
goes about thirty mile stretch that he walks and hangs out.
And you know, there's three herds of elks in that area,
so he's doing good. So there's always helk in that area.
So he does. He travels up and down. He's been
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seen the winter, summer, spring, like he does. He gets
reported quite a bit and he's what I saw in
the winter in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
So yeah, for a man like you who love sasquatch
and can't get enough of the topic, you sure are
living in the perfect place. What a lucky man you are.
I'm telling you, what's about time for us to get
out of here. Alan, But before we do, I just
want to thank you so much coming on and sharing
all those experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, the jumbo, but we got through it.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
You've had so many experiences, it's going to be hard
to put those all into a nice tidy list. All
we care about is that you told us about them,
So for that I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
No for problem.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Thanks again, so mach true time and have a great night.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
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