I’ve Got a Bigfoot Here - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 478

Tonight’s guest, Rob Effler, is from Western North Carolina. In 2023, he started North Carolina Investigates with co-founder George Lunsford. Prior to that, in 2007, he was the founder of GoDark Paranormal Investigations. In 2012, he started to receive reports of Sasquatch sightings in his area of North Carolina. That came as quite a surprise to him, because, up until then, he thought Sasquatch were only in the Pacific Northwest. Little did he know, it wouldn’t be long that he’d see, with his own eyes, how wrong he was about that.

We hope you’ll tune into tonight’s show and listen to Robert talk about the 5 Sasquatch sightings he’s had over the years. He’s also going to talk about North Carolina Investigates and the work he’s done with NCI and his team members.

If you’d like to contact Robert, to share a Sasquatch sighting you’ve had, in North Carolina, with him, please send an email to [e-mail] and put the type of cryptid sighting you’re reporting in the subject line.

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My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience 

Thanks, as always, for listening!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Robert Effert. I'm from western North Carolina.
I'm fifty five years old. In twenty twenty three, I
started North Carolina Investigates with co founder George Launcord. Prior

(00:21):
to that, in twenty two thousand and seven, I was
the founder of Go Dark Paranormal Investigations. And prior to that,
I was a for twenty five years off and on.
In my career, I was in law enforcement and security.
So I've seen some strange things, seen some things that

(00:45):
just you know, biffled to mine. And I'd always been
a paranormal investigator mostly. And then about twenty twelve, I
started getting reports of uh Bigfoot around my area. And
at first I thought, wait just a minute, these guys

(01:06):
has got to be pulling my leg. Bigfoot is in
the Pacific Northwest, up in Canada out towards Alaska, out
of that neighborhood, and I got the hutting pieces together
and everything else, I got thinking, well, maybe these creatures
do exist. Well, I got with some bodies of mine

(01:27):
that was better in another group that I'm part time
a member of called Bigfoot nine one one out of
western North Carolina, and we decided to go on a
recon mission just to see if this one area did,
in fact could house and have a environment and habitat

(01:52):
for a bigfoot. We weren't prepared. We we just done
it on a whim. See was mostly looking for twist breaks.
We was looking for footprints. We was looking for anything,
you know, like structures, anything odd unusual out of the
way that we could go back and report to Bigfoot

(02:16):
nine one one well on the way in there. And
this was in the November the nineteenth of twenty nineteenth,
just before deer hunting season started. I told my buddy Brad,
I said. We had his brother Nick also also with us.

(02:36):
I told Nick and Brad, I said, we probably won't
stay too off long. I said, I don't think we
need to be going in there, you know, loaded down,
like we're going on a military excursion for a month
or so. When he said, well, that sounds pretty good.
And here's where we made our mistakes. We didn't take
into consideration of the timeframe of the year and November.

(03:00):
The sunsets quite early in woods, right around about three
or four o'clock, and we didn't exactly take a fly slight.
We didn't take no high speed camera or any of
the sort. We just you know, basically doing a slot
tongue in cheek, you could say, a security. So we

(03:24):
get about three three and a half mile away from
a truck and we're standing on this little rock face
and all of a sudden, it just blurts out, guys,
look at this. We turn around. There's the top of
a pine tree missing. Pine tree is probably maybe between

(03:51):
four and a half to five inches around, and the
probably about six six and a half feet tall, and
then from there on up the top of the trees missing.
So we're standing there trying to figure out did the
weather do it? Prior to that, for two weeks, we

(04:11):
hadn't had any rain, just light sprinkles ever so often,
and we had had any high winds, no severe weather.
Leaf litter in the woods was probably three to four
inches thick. It was extremely loud, crunchy. You could hear

(04:32):
a squirrel on the ground to two hundred yards. You
might not be able to see it, but you could tell,
you know by the sound which way the squirrel was going,
or any other addle like a raccoon or apostle. And
were just stand there trying to figure out where do
the top of the tree get well. I turned around

(04:53):
and like I said, the sun starting to set, and
Nick and Brad myself, we were all three in the
shadow light. Now where we was at is like a
kind of like a canyon, but not exactly. It sort
of made a V formation, and that V formation went
on for probably another one hundred and fifty two hundred

(05:15):
yards on the mountain. And I stand there getting ready
to ask Bread something, and I see something of the
move out of the corner of my eye, and I just
happened to glance up, and I'm like, old, dear God.
So I go to elbow and Bread in the ribs.
He said, what's the matter? He turns around. I said,

(05:38):
all't you look? Going yonder? There was a creature on
a walk I would say, probably about one hundred and
ten yards out somewhere in that neighborhood, light, blonde in color,
from the top of its head to the end of
its toes. I couldn't see any facial features, couldn't see

(06:01):
any hand features, but it looked like it's any word
between the size of a five to a eight year
old kid, covered in shaggy hair. We knew good well
it wasn't nobody in seup. It runs across this log.
It makes a head first guy into hey laurel thinking

(06:28):
hence the ground just like a cat never makes a sound.
So I'm standing there looking at Brad. I said, did
you see what I just saw? He said, yes, I did.
He said, that is not I'm back. I said, uh oh,
I said, now we're in trouble. Well I turn around.

(06:51):
I looked at Nick and I said, did you see that?
And he said, I saw a part of it. He said,
I seen something go into the laurel thinking. He said,
I didn't see the whole entire thing. Well, I get
seeing something other else in the same vicinity right behind
that log. It was another one with it light brown

(07:15):
and colored completely teetotally shaggy, about four foot wide shoulders,
and it backs up, takes one look at us again.
It was far out. You couldn't make out facial features.
The only thing you could see was kind of like
a dark outline of the face backs up against the tree,

(07:39):
sliding straight down into the leaves, and then it disappears.
So I look around at Brad and I said, did
your daddy give you that tree knocking stick? He said yeah,
he said, I've got my backpack. I got my backpack.

(08:00):
I said, okay. I said, let's get up here on
this other tree. I said, about twenty five thirty more
feet right up here. I said, that tree looks good
and hollied. I said, do a tree knock. Let's see
what happens. So he gives three tree knocks eighty five
yards out from where that juvenile went into the laurel thicket.

(08:21):
We get three tree knocks back. Well, all three of
us started getting excited, but then Brad says, well, let's
go on up the ridge. And I said, Brad, I said,
we can't do that, and he said why. I said,
as steep as that is, and as dry as these
leaves are, I said, as slick as those dry leaves are,
I said. Every step we take, I said, we're going

(08:43):
to be going backwards. I said, about fifteen feet every step.
I said, remember what your daddy always told us, And
he said, what's that if you ever encounter these things
and you see one, you're automatically outnumbered, don't Let's don't
pursue this. I said, we don't have enough manpower. I said,

(09:05):
to cut this creature of off. I said, because where
it's going. I don't think we need to be going
in that direction. I said, that terrain, I said, is
off rough And I said, and judging by the weather,
it's going to get dark quick. I said, on the
flashlight we got, buddy, I said, it's on our cell phones.

(09:25):
I said, Remember, we didn't come in here prepared. I said,
this was just a just a whim. I said that
we took upon ourselves. So we backed out of that
and got back to the truck and reported to his daddy.
And we never did get the opportunity to see those
new creatures again. On a different excursion. I think it

(09:49):
was in twenty twenty one, right around about late April
early May, we were again with big Foot nine one one.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
We were down on the back on the backside of
mcdalll County doing a investigation, and we had enough people
with us that we had four teams in the woods,
well me and my wife. The way everything worked out mathematically,
we were the odd odd and through with the bunch

(10:25):
because there wasn't nobody else to be put with us,
because they tried to make it as even as they
possibly could. So we had one team go to the west.
We had one team go sort of northwest. We had
another team go east and me and my wife went north. Well,

(10:45):
we were turned. It was round about oh, I would say,
probably in the neighborhood of about nine nine thirty that night,
and I had a battery operated the head lamp on
and my head lamp started going dim and I said, uh, oh,

(11:07):
light's going out. My wife said, okay, she said, see
if you've got an extra set of batteries for your lot.
I get to digging around in my pocket. My light's
going dimmer, and I'm having used myself phone to compensate
for everything that She and I both we were talking,
and all of a sudden, she hushes didn't say anything

(11:29):
for about six minutes, and it keys in on me.
I'm like, now, this is unusual for her to just
be quiet right in mid conversation and not say anything.
And she said, cut that light off. I said, what
she said, cut your out off and let your eyes
just I said, sweetheartist, what's the matter. She said, I

(11:50):
need you to do me a favor. Now, when you
my eyes finally adjusted, you can see the outlines of
the trees. You couldn't tell from a maple from from
a pot or a sycamore or anything of that nature.
Put any other tree. The only thing you could see
was you know, it was outline. She said, come over

(12:11):
here where I'm at? And I said, well, I said,
technically speaking, I said, it's hard for me to see you.
She said, just following my voice, come down here, so
I get down or where she's at? She said, uh,
where's team number one? Because where we were at Uh
we were in a complete cell phone dead song, so

(12:33):
our cell phones were useless. We couldn't contact anybody, and
we didn't have a radio with us. They forgot to
give us one, I said, team number one. I said,
is but a little that on the northwest side. I
said where? I said, where dead north? I said where

(12:55):
team number one at? I said they shouldn't be I
said about a mile hay if used after our right
I said, we go through this one particular growed up field,
I said, in a n buire back right handed. I
said we should meet them head on. I said, is
that the way you want to go? She said, no,
I want you to look dead in front of us.

(13:18):
I mean, my night vision was going back then, but
it's not like it is now. I have to have
a complete flightlight just to go out to the car anymore.
And I get to looking. I said, are you seeing
what I'm saying? She said, what do you see? And

(13:39):
I will okay, I said, someother is out there, because
the laurel was almost about up to your chin, laurel
bushes were and that creature was standing three and a
half feet over top of it. And I'm six one.

(14:00):
I'm a guessing this creature was probably somewhere in the
neighborhood of nine to nine and a half feet tall,
four foot wide at the shoulders black outline. So I'm
sitting there watching it. I said, that looks like a
bigfoot to me. She said, yes, very much. So what
are we gonna do? I said, well, just stand here,

(14:20):
don't move. Well, he starts advancing towards us. So I
hollered at holler at this creature. I said, whoa, whoa, whoah,
big boy, don't do it. So I got to reach
him from a pistol. Now I go in the woods
arm to protect myself. Because depending on a time of
type of year that you go into go into the
woods on a bigfoot investigation or excursion, any way you

(14:44):
want to call it, you never know what you're gonna
run into. You might run into a pack of coyotes,
and coyotes for the most part, can be vicious. You
might get between a mama bar and her cubs, and
you may have to have something other loud enough is
to scare her to get her off of you. And
then again you may run into big cats. Because we

(15:06):
do have here in western North Carolina, we do have panthers,
we do have cougars and every great now then bobcats
do have a tendency to be just a little bit testy,
and they if you spook one, they may jump on
you just to get you out of their way so

(15:26):
they can go on about their way. And then, depending again,
depending on time of the year, you may wind up,
you know, on a rattlesnake, a copperhead, or just any
anything like that. You severely need to protect yourself at
all times when you're out in the woods. It's you know,
not for protection against these bigfoot unless you absolutely don't

(15:51):
have no other choice but use one. It's for your
own protection against against other things in the woods. So
I got a reading from a pistol. Well, he sees
me reaching from a pistol, and he just stops. He
backs up, goes to my left, which is his right,

(16:15):
and goes easing through woods, back in towards what we
knowed was a white oak thicky. Now, anybody knows anything
about white oaks, deer and all other animals loves white
oak acres. It's like candy to them. They'll stay in
an area like that more so than they would anywhere else,

(16:37):
an apple orchard or a cornfield or soy bean patchy
the lawn. He started going up into that white oak thicky.
Wife looks that means, she said, where's he going? She said,
why did he turn? I said, these creatures knows what
a firearm is, I said, I said, over the years,

(16:58):
they've been shot at it. I said, I know exactly
what a firearm is. I said, He's going home, she said,
And we stand there and we watch him until he
goes outside. I mean, like you said, like I said,
you could only see just a just an outline. I mean,
it wasn't completely teetotally absolute darkness where you couldn't see

(17:19):
your hand in front of your face. There was enough
light in the sky off the moon where you could
see outline of things. So he goes to up the
ridge and he goes bring back right handed. She said,
what do you mean he's going home? Where's he going?
I said, when he drops off on the back side

(17:41):
of that bluff. I said, there's plenty of rock cliffs
over in there. I said that, I'm pretty well sure.
I said, there's about three or four caves. I said,
I'm not following him back that way. I said, we're
going to try to get out of here and meet
back up with the rest of the crew down it truck.
I said, if they're not there, we will wait on

(18:03):
them because we don't have a way to get a
hold of them. I said, we're in a cell phone
dead zone. I said, and we don't have a radio.
So when we get back to the truck, we're about
probably one hundred yards from the truck, and we get
hearing voices in the woods. I told her, I said,
there's the rest of the tribe. I said, let's just
go ahead and get back to the truck and see

(18:25):
what we can find. Well, we get Donner close to
the truck, they are ecstatic. Team Number one is they
are jumping for joy talking about what all went on.
So they get in. They get in Donner dinnert base
camp and we pull up a chair and sit there
and I didn't say anything. She didn't either. So team

(18:47):
number one, which had our had our leader, John Bringer
in there with it. They're all just completely beside yourself,
he said, yeah. And this one guy that was with him,
he's the biggest member. His name is aj he's about
six six. They encounter a creature right around about nine

(19:11):
and a half feet tall, leaving age twenty one inch
tracks they cast it, Bring the chick, bring the track
back to the base camp, and they're standing there. You know,
it's going excited. And I looked at him. I said, John,
I'm standing there tackling by then. I mean, it just

(19:33):
tickles men. Strikes me funny. Wife's sitting overd just to
grin in like apostle. So uh, he said, what's the matter.
I said, where were you when you jumped this creature?
I said that at what time? He said, I jumped

(19:55):
at it nine fifteen? So men, my wife sees him
at nine point thirty. Where he was at was exactly
a mile out of half from where pain number one
was at. And I told him what happened, and he
just standing there, plumb, dumb found it and he said,

(20:19):
you've got to be kidding me. I said no, I said,
you ran him over top of me. I said, if
I'd had a radio, I said, I could have contacted you.
I said, but somebody forgot to give me a radio.
We still got, still got the print that was casting,
and it was a It was an awesome experience all

(20:40):
the way around, and between the experience in twenty nineteen
and that one in about twenty twenty one, Needless to
say it, they gave me the fever real bad. It
was the cryptid bug that bit. I wanted to know more.
The more I got studying, the more I got looking,

(21:03):
the more I wanted, the more I wanted to know. Well,
in twenty twenty three, I was talking to my co
founder of nc I Off Jill I Investigates, George Lunsford.
I've been talking to him on the computer for probably
about a year year and a half or so. I

(21:24):
had never met the gentleman. We hit it all front
off the bat on my internet. Got talking and he said,
I'd like to find somebody go bigfoot hunting with me.
And I said, well, I said, there's going to be
a bigfoot conference in town. I said on six and
six date, I said, would would you like to join

(21:47):
up with me? Up there? I said, and we'll sit
and I said, we'll talk see if we if we clicked. Well,
on that particular day, I met up with George. We
we got together that day and within fifteen minutes of
meeting one another in person, it was exactly like we

(22:11):
had known one another for probably fifteen or twenty years.
Is like we grew up together as kids. I mean,
we became instant best friends, we became brothers. It was
like lightning in a bottle. Well, a little bit later,
on a couple of weeks later, he gives me a

(22:31):
phone call and he said, how would you like to
get a podcast? Gough? I said, okay, Coop, Well we
got a got a podcast up. And at first we
called it the NCIS North Carolina Investigate Sysquatch. And we
didn't really truly think about what we were doing. We

(22:52):
just you know, tickled, we you know, had something other
in common and George hadn't never seen one. And we
started the uh started the podcast. And what got got
us in trouble, unbeknownst to us and c I s
was you know, I had jeth Row and had you know,

(23:15):
and uh all of them off off the TV show
in c I S. So we had to drop the
S and just leave it as in ce I. Well
make a long story short, we got a producer, and
our producer had stage four cancer and we were just
trying to give him something to take his mind off everything.
And later on, UH our producer or at cou Yar

(23:38):
passed away succumb to his, uh his illness of cancer,
and we were we were left without a left without
a producer. And I think it was about probably a
month or two after that we picked up rock and
Randy Stewart out of Las Vegas, and uh he started

(24:02):
being our producer then. And uh we started you know,
adding other team members to us. So we added uh
my brother from another mother, Jerry Millwood Jr. We added
uh Tim Dill's from Franklin, North Carolina. Jerry's from Kasar,

(24:25):
North Carolina, which is just about about an hour down
the road, and uh we have got to adding you know,
more experiences under a belt. We uh went out to
uh Crout next to Cherokee, North Carolina. And this is
where the uh as old saying goes. This is where

(24:46):
the fun begins. We were out there at we were
on excursion the UH. We went into this one area
and we got finding juvenile primps. Well, we got noticing
something of the strange woods was extremely tore up. The

(25:09):
UH laurels were twisted, they were broke, they it looked
like a Technically speaking, it looked like a WWE wrestling
match had took taking place. After in the woods, and
we got noticing something that was following us. Normally, if

(25:30):
bigfoot follows you, he's either going to parallel you or
either he's gonna stay in front of you or he's
gonna stay behind you to make for sure you know
what your intentions are. Whatever this was circled us just
exactly like shark, so we knew goodding Well it wasn't
a big foot. And then after a few more juvenile

(25:52):
tracks that we found, we started finding a few more
dog men pramps, and we started putting two and two together. Well,
we got UH out of the woods, got our cameras
and everything place where we wanted them, and got our
audio place where we want them. Where this place was at.
Nobody in the general public, even a random hiker, is

(26:13):
going to figure out where it's at. Or or anything
of the sort and find the equipment and mess with it.
We get back down to the back down to the truck.
We're just that and we're making small talk. George happens
to look up and he said, Ron what he said?

(26:37):
I said, what? George? He said, Look, look, look, look rights,
you look at there. Till me what you were saying.
So we see this juvenile body wise looked like about
a fourteen fifteen year old kid, lanky, just bobbing up

(26:58):
and down, watching, just rocking buddge and forwards, just watching.
George said, I'm going after it. I said, well, let's go.
So me, George, Tim and Jerry. We high ted it
through woods. He takes off like a rocket. So he
comes out through and we we can't find him. I mean,

(27:21):
he's not making any noise when he's hitting the ground. Again.
It's spring of the year, so we're finding leaf litter
where he's kicked things up, but we can't We can't
find him. Coldn't tell which stretched. He went, Well, we
get to find it. All these structures, broken limbs and
everything else, And it was like they had made a

(27:43):
kind of like a hedgerow out of the out of
the natural woods, broke stuff all strategically placed it, stoved
it up to the ground, and uh everything where they
could watch. Because where we were parked is a public road.
It is federal land with public access to it, and

(28:10):
people drives up and down every single solitary day. So
we kind of figured they might be getting there in
entertainment because a lot of people will put their kids
in the back of the trump and kids will holler,
and now will get bigfoots attention. They'll get curious, see
what's going on, see what they need to do in
order to protect their self and protect their clan. And

(28:33):
that's the only thing that we could figure out that
we could do. One morning encounter and this was George's
encounter that really got him. We were see it was
twenty twenty four, It was in January. We were out

(28:58):
in East Tennessee. We were with a investigator that he
investigates with us part time. He's still a member of
the NCI crew. His name is Harley Owens. Harley took
us to this one spot and it was me, my wife, Harley,

(29:19):
and George. This time we had radios. This time we
were fully fully prepared for what we was going to
go into weather wasn't cooperating. It was sleeping one minute,
raining one minute, snowing one minute when it didn't make
up its mind if it wanted to gust or if
it wanted to sort of laylaw. And we've been finding

(29:42):
big foot tracks. We've been finding all kinds of I mean,
all kinds of evidence. We found twist breaks, we found
ambush point shop beside game trails. We found footprints, but
you couldn't cast any of them on can ground was
to win. Casting to was basically useless, and so much

(30:03):
water on the grounds, you can't really truly take many
pictures of the uh, the footprints because it was throwing
too much, too much glire back on the camera, and
if you try to get down on top of it,
it leaves the impression that, you know, you're trying to
make something other bigger than what it actually is. And

(30:24):
we didn't want to. We didn't want to do that
because when you're trying to present evidence and you can't
you know, get it in its natural state and you know,
show the reference like either a pocket knife or a
somebody's shoe or whatever the case might be, you can't

(30:47):
you know, distinguish what's what makes it look like, you know,
you're just fishing for something other than your credibility is shot.
So we just take it for what it was. Personal
experich rode it now is that? And we were getting
ready to go to another location. Harley just stops dead

(31:10):
in his tracks. George said, what's the matter. And Harley said,
I got a funny feeling about something other And George said, well,
what is it? He said, George, he said, let's me
and you. He said, go off down this right hand heel.
He said, we'll go down through Yonner. He said about
four hundred yards. He said, then we're going to turn

(31:30):
left handed, he said, and meet Rob and his wife
back at the truck. I said, boys, take a radio
wing in case something O that happens. I said, you
never know. I said, well, yeah, you never know over
in here, because there's everything in the world. Over in
East Mnessee. There's red wolves, you've got gray wolves, You've

(31:52):
got you got cougars, you've got panthers, you've got black
barn Some locations you do have some Elk. We weren't
finding any Elk sign, but we had found just a
little bit of our sign, not much, but we were
finding plenty of deer shign and I told my wife.

(32:13):
I said, I've got a funny feeling. She said, what
is it? I said, why don't you go about eighty
five yards in front of me? I said, and stop.
I said, I'm gonna go. I said, and get about
eighty five yards away from you. I said, we'll keep
that eighty five yard distance. I said, that one lane
right through there. I said, it's pretty well open. I said,

(32:35):
I'll be able to see you. I said, you've got
a radio. I've got one. I said. George and Hardy
both has radio. And I said, if anything goes haywire,
I said, we know what we're doing. So my wife
she carries as well. She had her had her side
arm with her. I had mine, George had his, Hardy

(32:57):
had had his. May that's what he was turned out.
If they need you to clear out one to get
from point A to point B, well, I get down
through there and I'm standing listing. There's no squirrels, no birds, nothing.

(33:18):
We had encountered any of that in about three hours.
Animals are not going to give up their position. Do
you to hear of being eaten? Well, all of a sudden,
I hear George and Harley on the radio. Here he comes,
Here he comes, Lord God Almighty, here he comes. I said,

(33:41):
which direction is he going? He said left handed? I
said ten to four. I said, I said, I've got you, guys,
I said, on the beach. So I'll back up. I'm
standing at the edge of the trail full camel. Only
thing you see is just widen my eyes. I've got camouflage,
gloves on, camouflage, hat, camouflage, everything life is in the

(34:03):
same deal. And I say her turn her head and
look at me, because she's hearing the same conversation on
the radio as I well. All of a sudden, it
sounds like a bulldozer coming through the woods. So I go,
reaching from a pistol because it's coming just as dead

(34:23):
straight at me as he can get, gets within about
thirty five forty yards in front of me and stops.
The law thinking is so thick you can't see nothing.
I mean, I know this is an old appalache in backwoods, saying,
but the lad think it was a thick A cottontail

(34:44):
rabbit would have to have a compass to figure out
how to get thought this was how thick this stuff was.
I mean it was extremely thick. So this creature stops
by hearing pivot and turn and that's all I hear. Well,
George and Harley's going going eight crazy on radio. Wife

(35:06):
Hothers means, she said, did you see anything? I said no,
he was thirty five yards in front of me and
I cannot see him. I said, he's still fire somewhere.
I cannot find it. Well, in about five and six
minutes later, George and Harley comes out into the into

(35:26):
the out of the bushes, finds a way to come
through the laurel thinking. They've got brambles in her hair,
they've got leaves in her hair, they've got dicks, you
name it. I mean, looks like they've been, you know,
just basically drugged through the woods by their heels and
just water right, real good. I said, what was it, George?

(35:47):
He said, oh my god. He said he was ever
bit of eight and a half feet tall, four foot
wide at the shoulders. He said he was just as black.
He said, it's the darkest dungeon you could ever think of.
He said, I am absolutely tickled to death. He said.

(36:08):
I chased off after him after I seen him take off. Now,
me and my wife Owes the goat farm, and we
shared this and with our podcast and everything else, and
never in a million years, well, I ever dreamed that
I would actually have a bigfoot show up on my property.

(36:33):
I only saw him once. My dogs were making a
funny noise in anybody that knows anything about Great Pyrenees dogs.
My dogs has this real low, slow rolling ground, and

(36:54):
I heard the dog, I mean, deep bass. It was almost,
you know, about the tone of what you might hear
a big foot make a grown I just stopped what
I was doing. Told my wife, I said, something's up,

(37:17):
I said, I said, said, something is not exactly right.
I always carry a pistol women when I go out
out dark, cause where I live, you know, it's just
like East Tennessee. We got everything here shy of elk.
Elk's only thing we don't have, and we don't have
buffalo or anything else for that matter. So I go outside.

(37:39):
My truck's parked about sixteen feet from the edge of
the Yeah. So I walk up to the truck and
I see something of the move and I thought, what
is that? I just have to turn my head and
look see it step in behind the tree. Well again,
my dog say steal, making that slow rolling growl like

(38:04):
it's daring something other to do something. So I go
down to my first lot. I just shook it off,
thinking my mind's playing tricks on me. I've got a
shed set up for the billies to stay into, and
my two little pigs, and these livestock guardian dogs has

(38:28):
pushed these the goats and then pigs just as far
into the back of that enclosure as they can get them,
daring them to come out. So I checked my lot
over at the barn where my milk and girls are at.
At that time, I had three dogs in that lot.
There are all three in guard formation gardening the barn.

(38:53):
Won't let the goats out. The goats are all hunger.
Dog just looks av me, looks back in the same
direction where I thought I saw something at the time,
and then it hits me I wouldn't imagine nothing. I
actually saw what I thought I saw. So I go

(39:19):
up over where this creature had been standing in the
pine needles, because there's a white pine patch between me
and my daddy's house. So I'm standing at I mean
two foot span. Easy. You can clearly say you were
a creature been standing there and I was like, it's

(39:40):
in pine needles. I cannot cast this. Nobody's going to
believe me. This creature is probably maybe like I have
sixteen seventeen year old kid, another juvenile adolescent bigfoot. I said,
and you're talking to myself the whole entire time. Is

(40:01):
nobody's gonna believe this. Nobody's gonna believe this. Nobody's gonna
believe this. And then I get to hear him by
pedal steps behind me, and instantly my blood runs cold.
I'm like, oh God, either there's another one with it
or or or he's doubled back on it. So I
get to hear him by pedal steps in that creek.

(40:22):
I hear sploosh, sploosh. I hear him take it off
through the woods like ouldozer. I mean, he's he's going
he's breaking sticks, he's breaking limbs, he's going on back
up to the top of the mountain. I'm just standing
there and all just all struck. Well, after that, this

(40:48):
was probably two weeks later, maybe sheen eyes over its born.
Jethro instantly goes into the tention. When he goes into attention,
Hercules and Sampson, they go into attention. I'bout jethrow, what

(41:12):
is it? So he starts that low, slow rolling ground.
All of a sudden, you smell this god awful, I mean,
god awful stench. I'mout. You've got to be kidding me.
The only thing I've got is electric fence. But the

(41:33):
way I've got an electric fence set up, if you
do touch it, you're gonna anything's going annoy it because
it's got enough juice on you to get your attention
real well, So probably fix for seven minutes, no end. No,

(41:56):
nothing is just as still as it can be. Well,
dogs calm down after the stanch goes away. So we
go over go back over to the barn again. One evening,
we'd come in from work a little bit later what
we normally wanted to that's some of the things that

(42:18):
came up. And uh. She sends me back to the
house to get her milk bucket. Well, I'm coming back
from milk from getting a milk bucket, and I get
almost down our gate she can I hear something other

(42:39):
and I'm like, what in the world is going on?
What is that? So I'm standing there listening to it,
trying to decipher what it is. She comes busting out
of the barn, hollering at me, screaming. I said, what
she said, Do you hear that? I listened up against

(43:00):
the gate of the going in into the and the
and the goat pastor, and I said, my lady, I said,
explain to me what you heard. And I said, I
will tell you what I heard. I said, and we
will compare our notes. She said, I've only got one

(43:21):
confounded question to ask you. I said, go ahead. Now.
All of this had taken place before and after Hurricane
Helene hit, which was in September of twenty twenty four.
The sight of the juvenile was before Helene. Everything else,

(43:46):
the smells and everything else was after the hurricane. She said,
I know, getting well. She said, the Blue Ridge Parkway
is closed due to the hurricane. I said, yes, ma'am.
I said it's close. She said, there's no other roads
around here, right, She said, just this one, she said,

(44:09):
in the road down below theous. I said, yes, ma'am.
She said, are a normal work route. A hurricane took
it out, right, I said, yes, ma'am. She said, so
there's no way in the world. She said, there's no

(44:30):
way there could be a circus train, circus wagon, caravan
of any sort come through here at the whole entire time,
I'm standing urd reading. I said, yes, ma'am, I agree,
we totally. She said, since when did we have a

(44:54):
confounded group of monkeys in these woods? So I go
horse life. She said, all right, smart edics, what's the funny.
I said, that's exactly what I heard, And I said,
I was fixing to ask you the same question. She said,

(45:14):
Jethro went backing up. I said it was in that spot.
I said, I've earned that little flat. I said, on
the upper end right our edge of that woodline. I said,
ruthim home watches at. She said, that's exactly where I
heard it. She said, I was closer to it than
you were. She said, where were you at when you
heard it? I said, I was done here at the

(45:36):
entrance to the highway. I said, at the other gate.
She said, do you think that one you saw? She said,
what did you name him? Because we named we basically
named the bigfoots that we encounter, depending on, you know,
how things goes. The one in East Tennessee, George named

(46:00):
him Alfalfa because from what he's seen, he said, he
had some tough Shire, sticking straight up on top of
his head and uh which you know, technically speaking, that
fit the uh one over there in uh Over next
to Cherokee. We named that one pinkaboo because that's basically

(46:24):
about what he is doing, is playing pickaboo behind that log. Well,
the one that I saw up here next to the house,
he did legwise, he wasn't real you know, real big.
You could tell it wasn't somebody, and you could tell
it wasn't a suit. I was, you know, just basically

(46:49):
estimating roughly, you know, along lines of juvenile. So I
called him Junior. She said, uh, you named that one junior.
She said, does that mean Junior's got I said yes, ma'am.
I said, his mam and daddy has probably hatched out
two little ones. And I said they probably got in

(47:09):
a big way of playing and got excited. I said,
and mama or junior one came along and made them
shut up. She said, what are we going to do?
I said, as long as they leave the goats alone,
I said, don't bother them. I said, we'll do like
we've been doing. I said in chero Key, East Tennessee

(47:31):
and other places. I said that we've been. We'll just watch, observe,
notate everything. Leave them alone, I said, if they're not
bothering us, don't bother them. I said. The only thing
I'm want them. I said, it's enough DNA evidence or
a clear enough picture that nobody can't say that it's

(47:53):
been fabricated, it's been done with AI, it's been whatever.
I said, that's all all my after. I said, as
far as want one of these creatures, I said, to
bring home. I said, that will never happen, I said,
on anybody. I said, we just got to live in
harmony with them. I said that something other happens, I said,

(48:15):
and they start getting eld start getting nasty, start getting hateful.
I said, well, I said, we'll deal with it, and
we'll tend to it however we can. I said, don't.
I said, that's the reason I keep telling you make sure.
I said, that shotgun you've got hit in the barn,
got plenty of book shot in it. I said, you

(48:36):
might accidentally need it one night. I said, don't come
over here, I said, unarmed, And well, we go back
back to my house, and several days later, have get
a phone call. Poor Dady, Bless his heart, time he was,

(49:03):
he was eighty nine year old, little doubt hardy hearing
like most old people. Was my dad. He'd retired from
the federal for service. He spent thirty eight years with him,
And like most federal employees and some police officers will

(49:24):
do this. Most humilitary personnel, depending on what rank, this, that,
and the other they were, they'll do the same thing
if they if they noticed something other, encounter something other,
or run in something other, They're not going to disclose
too much on it. Daddy was a timber technician. He

(49:47):
laid out roads and done the temper sales and doing
a lot of environmental things. What w he is with
the fire service. So he calls me up. He said,
you've been studying this big thing for a pretty good while. Hey,
I said, yeah, Daddy, I said, ever since twenty twelve,

(50:08):
I said, prior to that, I said, if you said
anything to me before twenty twelve, I said about bigfoot,
I said, I looked at you dead nine, told you
used lunatics. You needed to be put somewhere, that that
creature only existed over there in Himalayas, up in Alaska
and Canada, and after in Bluff Creek, California. That's all

(50:29):
the place that creature could be it. He said, what
we'd be pecking on my window? I said which one?
He said, the one by car my Den. He said,
closest to the woods. Now, granted this window is uh

(50:50):
almost six foot off the ground. Black bear, Yes, we
do have these in western North Carolina. Black bear is
not going to tap on a window, now, a screen door.
If somebody has been feeding one, or if there's a

(51:11):
bird feeder nearby, they might accidentally bump one. But as
far as just tap it on the window like somebody would,
black bear is not going to do that. About deer
is not going to do that. Awesome can't do it.

(51:32):
Neither will a raccoon. I said, how long has this
been going on? He said, I always said he. He
said about two three times a week. He said, not
on the same days. He said, he might do it
Monday through Wednesday, and then it might be Tuesday through Thursday.
And he said he might go there or two. But
he said, but it's about two three days a week.

(51:54):
So we get looking for footprints and this, that and
the other, and we find this one track in the backyard.
I looked at that, and I said, you ain't never
seen one, hattie. He just gives me that what I
call the government look. Wouldn't admit, wouldn't deny, just gives

(52:19):
you the look. And I said, well, I said, let
me ask you a question, now, captain. He said, what's that?
I said, you're not telling me everything I need to know.
I said, but all got a question, asked you? He said,
what I said, Tell me what that is? Right there?

(52:45):
He said, what fool has been in my backyard? He said,
birth is?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
He?

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I said, does that look human to you? He just
looking at that and he said that's too big, he said,
to be somebody. We measured it at fourteen inches long,
six and a half inches white, right in the mud,
right at the edge of the woods, right in the backyard.

(53:11):
I look at him. I said, okay, I said, now,
explain to me how somebody's going to be running through
these mountains with all these sticks, all these rocks, all
this stuff that's in the woods. I said, it's going
to cut your human feet up. Tell me who's up here,
I said, running around your backyard bar footing? Again, he

(53:36):
gives me the government look. I said, you know, getting
will that ain't a bar tapping on your window. So
he just gives me the government look again and goes
back in the house. So I'm it's you know, the
experiences that you know just came into play. The guys

(54:00):
that I work with and investigate with, I never dreamed
in a million years, to be quite honest, and everything
that I've told everybody, some people might be sitting there
right now scratching their heads saying, this old boy's lost

(54:22):
his mind, he's crazy, he's flipped. No, old ladies and gentlemen,
As God is my witness, everything that I've told you
is the God's honest gospel truth. I'm not gonna sit
here on something other like this and tell anybody a

(54:42):
buch nonsense on something other that I know good and
will what I saw. None of these encounters were bears.
None of them were shadows, pigments of the imagination, nothing

(55:03):
of the sort. A lot of these, uh, a lot
of these heels right here in western North Carolina. They're
full of tales, stories, legends, and there's truth in some
of these. Like now, there's not gonna We can't sit

(55:24):
back and say that everything we was told as a
kid was completely total gospel, because you know, how our
grandparents and my uncles, n aunts and mom and daddy's
and for something. Others you ken folk are. They'll tell
you stories about don't go out at night, booger man
agee chi or whatever abound in uh Jerry's neck of

(55:49):
the woods. They call them boogers route around around his
location over up here where I'm at, right under a
mountain Metell, North Carolina, which is the highest point east
of the Mississippi at six six and eighty four feet
at the top of the summit, I live at the
base of it. I call these around here about by

(56:14):
two names. I'll either call them Bigfoot or I'll call
them Harryman, because basically, you know, that's about what they
are is a harry individual. And the more of these
these creatures that I get stories on I encounter myself,

(56:36):
my team North Carolina investigates in c we encounter. The
more the more information that we can gather and absorb.
I cannot get enough of it. Once you get bit
by this bug, some people's like okay, and you know,

(56:58):
writes it off, let's it go. And then there's others
like myself, George, Tim, Jerry Harley. The more you get
bit by the bug. It's like a thiever. It will
not go away, and I don't want it to go away.

(57:19):
I want to know more. The dog man creature that
we encountered in East Tennessee, granted we never saw it,
but from the tracks that we were finding, we went
but about fifteen minutes behind it because the tracks kept filling,

(57:41):
kept feeling up full of water. And anybody that's a
avid hunter, avid outdoorsman, avid hiker, you'll know what I'm
talking about when I mentioned this. You've got to rely
on your senses that it once you were that the
whole entire forest has went silent, and you start getting

(58:08):
that feeling of dread. You go getting that fire, are
standing up on the back, you neck, your hair standing
up on on your arms. You know something other's not right.
A deer, a bar I've hnted in the woods, been

(58:32):
sitting there, leaf litters like tater chips. You could hear,
like I said earlier on, you can hear a squirrel
at two hundred yards. I've had byre walk up to
my tree stand. I've had deer walk up to my
tree stand and never make a sound. So you know,
good and well if they can do it and that

(58:53):
kind of leaf litter. What else is I turn the
woods watching you that you do not know, cannot see.
And as far as any dangerous encounters with bigfoot, I've
not had any. I have been bluff charged before. Me

(59:14):
and my wife and a friend friend of hers were
And this was just uh happened to be three weeks
before the hurricane. We were we were up on Wiseman's
view trying to see if we could see the brown
mountain lights. I didn't know how her friend would react.

(59:36):
Some people, they you mentioned a firearms shore one, they'll
get testy. They'll you know, it scares them to death.
So I left my gun in the vehicle. We were
out there kind of see the brown mountain lights. We've

(59:57):
seen a few of them. We didn't get to see
them a peak. It's you know, the roll of the dice.
You may go to three nights in a row not
see anything. You might go back the next night and
for the next week and a half, that whole area,
in that whole gorge will light up like Fourth of July.
Reason the calls behind those lights. What's causmen? Nobody knows

(01:00:21):
for sure, really, But we were standing there and we
were the only ones there, the only people in the
parking lot. We and there talking, her friend, taking pictures
and whatnot. It just as steal as it be, no wind,
no nothing. We get ready to leave, and something of

(01:00:42):
the buff charges us through the woods. Normally, if a
bar does that, they will pop their teeth to let
you know to go. We don't know what this was.
We don't know. We never saw it. The only thing
we've seen was the bushes and the trees and shaking
and moving. I have no idea what it was, but

(01:01:04):
it was in fact a bluff charge, because if it
was a regular attack charge, I wouldn't be sitting here
today telling y'all this story, either with my wife, neither
with her friend. We would probably be something another's me
and you long before now. And the other time I

(01:01:26):
got bluff charged. Uh, Daddy just kept you know, after
he gave me the after he gave me the government look,
he just kept on, you know, having stuff just just
to aggravate him. You know, you know how old people,
how old people gets if it's something other gets disrupted deal,

(01:01:50):
they will, uh it sort of agitates them. And uh,
after my daddy passed away, wife looked and she said,
what are we going to do now? She said, you know,
good Will Junior's got used to him. I said, yeah,
I know. I said, I've heard other people, I said,

(01:02:14):
whether it be you know, on another podcast or other
YouTube shows or anything, claimed that they talk to these creatures.
And I said, I'm about convinced that they've did around
humans enough for they understand what you're saying. They may
not know exactly what you're saying, but they know the

(01:02:35):
difference between human speech because these these creatures do have
their own language. I'm from the research that I've done,
I'm just about thoroughly convinced it's extreme, fast paced Native
American dialect and speech that they're speaking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I don't know that much about about the native language.
I know just barely a little bit Cherokee and just
barrely a little dab of Sue, and that's about all
I know. I don't know the you know, the rest
of the tribes natural language and dialects and everything else.
But I told her, I said, I said, now I'm

(01:03:15):
a sound and looked like an idiot, but I said,
I said, I want to do this. I said, you
be close by in case something other haywires goes happened,
she said, Okay, Well, unbeknownst me, she stays in the car.
So I'm in Daddy's driveway, and it hadn't been by

(01:03:39):
the day or two since we'd laid Daddy to rest
and were leading to rest on the February the fifth
of of twenty twenty five this year. So I was
just standing here. And Daddy never did keep no U.

(01:04:00):
He just had a outside porch light, his other motion
detector spotlight. He kept those unplugged. Plus he's already headed
in his head that it was running his power bill up,
so he had them wired up to a plug in,
so he kept them unplugged. And if he went outside

(01:04:22):
for anything, he always took flight slight with him instead
of relying on the lights at hand. So I didn't
have any of the sort plugged up, didn't have anything
else going. And where the woods are at is about

(01:04:42):
ten feet off my dad's god away. So I'm just
standing there looking around. I go hearing something other walking
in the woods by a peedle? Was a bearn wasn't deer,
wasn't raccoons, wasn't possible, wasn't any of any of the

(01:05:05):
other four legged creatures. This was walking on two legs.
I hollered, hey, Junior, it stops dead. That's tractor. I said,
if that's you, give me a favor, give me a tree, Knox.

(01:05:26):
Don't let me know you're there. Had no more thing.
Got that out of my mouse. Three knock sixty yards
up the hill. I said, thank you, Junior. I said,
I've got some bad news to tell you. The old

(01:05:48):
man that lives here, I said, he's passed away. He
won't be getting back. I said, I'm sorry. I said
I have to be the one this and it was
just exactly no joke. I mean, I mean, this turns

(01:06:08):
when nerves were talking about tell it it's the gospel truth.
I don't know if anybody out there has been been
around uh animals two awful much of any kind. But
you know when the animal is real close to you

(01:06:30):
and their master dies or something like that, it's like
their heart's broken. Babe, King Handling, I didn't hear this
sound through the woods, just exactly like something other. It
got its heart broke. He just said like that. Well,

(01:06:52):
I stand in their automatic clipholl, not like I am now,
I said, you else, and I'm sorry, I've got a
proposition for you. I said, I'm gonna be taking over
daddy's house. I said, if you'll behavior, sir, leave my

(01:07:16):
goat's loan and don't bother them. I said, we'll get
along with mine. I said, I don't know if there's
anything else in this woods, you're up. And I said,
but if there's anything else in here, make sure you
make it behaves. Because I was trying, I was trying

(01:07:36):
to cover all bases. I thought, well, I know good
and well I've got I've got a uh got a
big foot here, and I know he's probably got a
family that I haven't encountered yet. And this is where,
this is where the whole evening gets crazy. How are
those standing up on Mars? And I said, Junior, I said,

(01:07:59):
if we have a dog man around here, please and
no more and said dog man and the word please.
Something bluff charges me off to the left in the
law thicket. I'm standing there, going, oh my god, I'm
gonna get eat. I turn around. Look see where my
wife's at London, won't She's sitting there in the car

(01:08:22):
winness up. I'm an onr phone. I thought she had
my back. Evidently something that that got her attention. She
had to go take care of it on phone. Don't
know what it was. And I instantly just have a
three sixty turn and go to screaming, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

(01:08:43):
Don't get excited, don't get excited. Don't get excited, I said,
please God, don't get excited. And whatever this creature was
stops dead in its tracks, does not move. You can
hear it breathing, I said, Junior. I said, if that's
one of your kim thought, make them understand they are fine,

(01:09:11):
they are welcome. I said. But if that's not one
of your kin folk, make it leave. I said, I'm
sorry I had to bring this to you. I said,
but the old man that you're used to seeing all
this entire time, I said, he's passed away. He will
not be back. And again it sounded just exactly like

(01:09:37):
something other with a broken heart. She said, who I said, Junior,
I said, I'm sorry. I said, I hope we can
get along. I said, you do your thing, let me
do mine. You hear abipedal walk off to my left,

(01:10:00):
sixty five yards up the hill, goes off into the
other little gully and goes on up the ridge and
whatever bluff charged. I have no idea if it turned
and walked and went.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
With it, or.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
If it was still standing there see what I was
going to do, because at that time I didn't have
a firearm with me. It's dark as dungeon. You can't
see your hand in front of your face, and normally

(01:10:39):
I don't do that. That was just out of my
range normality. That's the only thing I can think of.
That the reason why they came that close. They knew
I didn't have fire But as far as what just

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really just flabbergasted me and got me thinking and got
me to understanding and realize there's more to these creatures
than we will ever figure out or we will ever realize.
Doctor Melbourne catchum as we've sent her some her samples

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and it to come back as unidentifiable creature and come
back with just a fuzz bit of actual human DNA.
So with that conclusion, these creatures have to have enough

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humanity to them to understand that with something other that
passes away, which it still might explain why we have
yet to find a big foot skeleton in the woods

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or anything else for that matter. I'm sure that they've
got just enough human in them to understand that they're
supposed you know, dispose of it, take care properly of
the over they're dead, like we do ours. And if

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they've got that much ability to them to do that,
I don't think we will ever discover a complete eletal
remains or an actual body in the woods. The Uh,

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I'm sorry, I apologize that. I just that just breaks
my nerves. And I mean it's me and my daddy
was close, and uh, having having to tell them creatures
that just really truly broke my heart. Yeah. I didn't

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know what to expect. I didn't know how they would react,
and it just I thought I would basically just talk
to them like some other people who claim that they have.

(01:13:50):
I've listened to plenty of different kind of encounters from
other people. A lot of the encounters I've you know,
sort of going I want me and the NCI boys
have run into. There's a lot of stuff out there
that people claim that that has happened to them. We've

(01:14:11):
not experienced that yet. Maybe we will someday. Maybe it's
not meant for it. We don't know. But as far
as the group that and I investigate with again. I've
got George, I've got him, I've got Harley, I've got

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Jerry and myself. Uh, North Carolina Investigates. You can find
us on Facebook, you can find us on UH go
to Google Play. We have the We are affiliated with

(01:14:56):
Channel twelve TV network on road, who, Apple Play, Comcast,
and Uh there's another platform or two. I can't remember
which one it is off the top of my head.
I think fire Sticks got us. I know Roku's got
us and UH, each and every week you can you

(01:15:18):
can listen in that way and we just have a ball.
Everything's unscripted, everything's unedited. We don't sugarcoat anything. We tell
it like it is. We tell it had happens, uh
sadly on that show. You know, if somebody says a
naughty word, whether it be on the just you know,

(01:15:41):
something o that it gets blurted out, we can it's
just something that we can't help we you know, we
don't try to go out and try to be you know,
vulgar by no means it's just you know, you don't
say something other or have a reaction to something other.
You know, depending on the situation where you're you're in

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the woods or whatever, But we enjoy doing what we're doing.
We we love the educational and the historical parts of it.
Like I said, there we more we know, the more
we want to know. And uh, we just love to
hear everybody else's experiences and we compare notes with each

(01:16:27):
and every individual and use the thing. If you get
to listing enough and you get to pay attention, you
about figure out what's what's going on in wood When
you start getting those old weird feelings and go to
getting them old fucky smells that you can't figure out,

(01:16:48):
It's it's pretty interesting and I wouldn't trade this for
anything on the planet. This is something other that you know,
Like I said, growing up as a kid, I saw
the legend of Boggy Creek. I read Bigfoot from the library,

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really and truly until I had my first encounter in
twenty nineteen and saw that juvenile that was blonde from
the top of his head to the end of his toes,
and the other one that was with it that was
brown in color, about four foot wide at shoulders. If
I had to saw those two, you know, I probably

(01:17:32):
would remain Gyptical. But after seeing that and the bud Bit,
it's just like you can't get enough of it. I
mean when somebody mentions, let's go find Bigfoot. Okay, so

(01:17:52):
these stuffed in the truck, Let's go the guys that
I'm with and see the best knowledgeable group of individuals.
We've got a very diverse back head. I'm a retired
law enforcement and security officer, spent twenty five years off

(01:18:13):
and along my life. In that film, I've got Jerry,
who is a retired Army are born George, he's retired
Navy tim He's just like I am. He's knows how
to track. He's been in the woods off his life.

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He's killed wild hogs, He's killed there, you name it.
There's probably anything short of elk that he's not taking down.
Not had the track, and this, that and the other.
And Harley for a young kid that's twenty some year old.

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I can't remember exactly how old he is. For a
young kid, Arley Owens is a smart individual. He knows
his stuff. He's a great tracker in the woods. We
tease him on a lot of things that that he
does in the woods. And I nicknamed him the bluetick

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hound of the group because when you get him in
the woods. He gets on something, he's not going to
stop till he gets to the bottom of it. As
far as the investigations goes, yeah, we take everything serious.
But if you don't have something of the comical that
happens in the woods or something other funny, or you know,

(01:19:42):
whether it be as long as somebody don't get hurt,
somebody tramps and falls. You know, if you can't, if
you can't have fun with what you're doing and the
subject you're investigating, and you know, just take it for
what it is and don't try to read too much
into it. You don't need to be done it. I mean,

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it's it's interesting. A lot of people don't believe a
lot of people's like, well, Rob, what about all these
game cameras in the woods? Simple open up a game
camera from any store or Amazon that you want to
buy from. Tell me what's the first thing that you smell.
You smell petroleum, you smell plastic. If you can smell that,

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these creatures can smell that at twelve hundred yards easy.
They know exactly whatever leaf in the wood smells like,
whatever tree's supposed to smell like, whatever bush flower weed,
blade of grass supposed to smell like if anything is foreign,
they may come into a point to check it out,
but once they realize man place that there, they're going

(01:20:55):
to avoid it like a black plague there and I
don't want to come nowhere near it. And drones, I've
been asked about drones. Even though humans can only hear
to a certain frequency, these creatures, I'm pretty well sure
I can hear at a different frequency and a higher

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frequency than what we can. I'm pretty well sure they
can hear that drown hum. They know what it is.
These creatures are not stupid. If they were, every household
in America that has a hunter living in it would
have a taxidermist making a mount, a head mount of

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a bigfoot and have it on their walk. Well, I
think if if you've got any questions, I don't know
what else to what else to tell you, buddy? Uh,
I think that just about covers me up. My friend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
You've been very thorough and sharing some amazing stories. There
is one question I have for you, though, and that
is it sounds like there are several ways that an
eyewitness in your erea can do this, But what is
the best way for an eyewitness in your area to
contact you to share an experience with you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
Oh, you can contact me on Facebook, or you can
send me an email to Rge twenty ten at gmail
dot com. Or you can send a message to me
on Instagram at NCI dot Rob and put in a

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subject line bigfoot encounter, dog man, encounter, turnal encounter, anything
along the lines in the subject line, and I will
return your message as quick as I folk most possibly
can and tell you anything you need to know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Well, that makes it awfully easy, Rob. I can't thank
you enough for coming on and sharing the details of
all these experiences with us and talking about nc I
like this. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I appreciate you, and it's been a great honor to
come on your show. Like like I told you earlier on,
I've listened to you for quite a few years. You
keep me glued overnight, and you are awesome individual and
I take my hat off to you and I respect you.

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Holly Well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Thank you so much for the kind words, sir, I
really appreciate and the feelings mutual. I definitely appreciate you
coming on as well. And yeah, I hope you keep
on beating the bushes looking for the sasquatch. Out there.
It sounds like you're just getting started and that's great
to hear. But having said that, thanks against so much
for your time and have a great night.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
great night.