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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name is Sabrina Sparks. I grew up in a
small country village, kind of middle of nowhere, just in
the corn. You know, grew up with stories from my
dad telling me bigfoot stories, and you know, we used
to watch the old sci fi films of the scary Sasquatch,
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the Scary Monster, and so it just kind of grew
with me as I grew up to an adult, just
kind of being around those types of stories and things
like that. I used to go to my best friend's
house as a kid and we would ride around on
her dad's golf cart and we would go screaming and
hunting for bigfoot and scaring everybody in the neighborhood but
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in mind. But as I grew up into an adult,
you know, those stories from my dad, they really meant
a lot to me, and they stuck with me, and
that's something then I'll cherish forever. With that being said,
you know, that carried over into what I do today
and going out in the woods in search of these beings,
these creatures, and it's just something that I absolutely love
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to do, and it's something that a lot of people
don't get the experience and the option to do so
I try not to take it for granted, you know,
seeing and hearing some of the things that I've seen.
One of the most just interesting thing that's ever happened
to me was in Kentucky, down in May of twenty nineteen.
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We were planning on moving from Fairfield, Ohio, and we
just wanted a clean start, you know, just something new.
And one of my husband's work friends offered us a
plot of land down in Kentucky, and we spent months
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upon months of planning moving down there, and he was
going to offer us ten acres of land. So finally
the time came when we are you know, we were
so excited. We're like, we're going to go down here
and we're going to have so much fun, and we're
going to pick out the spot we want to build on.
And so it was the first weekend of May twenty
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nineteen again and we went down and it was the
most beautiful place I've ever seen. The driveway itself was
a mile long gravel road and it was just absolutely
just secluded. I mean, it was one of those places
where you have to know somebody to be there, and
if an accident were to happen, air Care would have
to come in to get you. So we go down
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and there's like this, I just love thinking about this place.
There's this big, beautiful gate in the front, and there
are three cabins on this area. One of them is
a summer home on the right for another family who
isn't usually there. The left side is another cabin. An
elderly gentleman owned it and he was no longer with
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us at that point. And then the back cabin was
my husband's friends. So it was my husband David, and
his work friend and his wife. So we took the
whole week we went down there, and we just had
such a great time. You know, we were fishing, creaking, mudding,
just everything you could think anybody from the country would know,
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you know, just just literally anything. And we were telling
ghost stories, just having so much fun. And I wish
I could go back there. But so I told him
eventually because I didn't wanted to make fun of me,
that I love Bigfoot, and you know, I grew up
on those stories, and you know, being in this area,
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it was prime, prime area, and his property was around
one hundred and seventy six acres that backed up to
Daniel Boone National Forest. So I told him, you know,
I told him I was interested in Bigfoot, and you know,
seeing all these things, hearing all these things, and I
really wanted to just like kind of go out and
you know, explore. And he humored me, and you know,
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we were talking about certain things that he had heard
on the property. And he got me this big two
by four and he showed me like some good trees
to hit it on, and you know, of course it
was middle of the day. We didn't hear anything, and
so we just went about our day. We had a
wonderful week and saw a whole bunch of new things.
And he had around six Indian burial grounds on his
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property alone. We did see around three of them. I
paid my respects and things like that. And then the
end of the week rolled around Saturday, and we were
planning on having a steak dinner over the fire. It
was an absolutely beautiful morning, and then all of a sudden,
it was like a horror movie, you know, the storm
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rolled in and it knocked the power out, and there's
only one light pole on the whole entire property, and
it was just, oh, it was just an eerie feeling
having the power out that far out of the woods,
but we know he had a generator going. It was
still good. We opened up the windows, we opened up
the doors. We're still having a good time. Once the
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rain stopped, we you know, got all our food together.
We were still having a great time. Made our dinner,
and we go inside and the cabin that he has
is one of like the old classic cabins, so it's
like a big open room in the middle. It's got
one room off to the right connected to the bathroom,
which is so small, and then on the other side
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of the bathroom is like the master room, if you
want to call it that, but it's still a small room.
So we're sitting in the dining room, which is connected
to the living room and everything else, and we're eating
and I hear this whispering coming out the back door,
and you know, I'm so excited, but I'm also nervous,
and I'm like, what is that? And you know, we've
been telling ghost stories, so he's like, oh, I think
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you know what it is. And you know, I was
so excited. I just put my fork down and I
ran to the back door and I go out on
the porch and I hear this murmuring and I'm standing
there and it's dark at this point, and he has
some of the old oil lamps lit. So I'm sitting
there listening on the back porch and I hear this
murmuring and it's almost sounds like another language, Like my
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brain was trying to process what was being said, and
I could hear them talking back and forth, if you
want to call it that. But it was also like
a whisper, if that makes any sense. It was just
something that you could hear with your own ears, but
it was like somebody was kind of whispering in your
ear from the woodline. So, you know, I'm just listening
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like absolutely like amazed at this point, and everybody else
comes out there like what is it? And I'm like,
you know, listen, and we're just kind of like just
dumbfounded at this point, don't even know what to say,
and we're like okay. So it just kind of keeps
on going, and we start moving around cleaning things up,
and the night progresses it and it just keeps on going,
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and we never we never thought to pull out our
cameras or our phones and record. It's just one of
those moments where you're just mesmerized by what's partaking around
you and you don't think about it. And I know
some people will get upset because I didn't, you know,
record what I heard, but honestly, I don't even know
if my phone would have picked it up. But as
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we're cleaning up, you know, still having a good time
listening to this, and I ask him questions, and I'm like,
you know, maybe it's somebody who's camping back in the forest.
And I ask him, you know, where's your nearest neighbor
and he says, oh, well, you know, if they're camping,
that's a pretty good distance. And if it would be
the neighbors, the neighbors are an elderly couple that are
exactly the mile down the drive in the opposite direction.
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So I chalk it up as you know, just something
weird's going on, really cool, but you know, what can
I do about it? So we just keep going about
what we're doing. And it's probably maybe around eleven. They're
inside cleaning up, and I'm outside by the fire pit
and I look up in the sky and I see
this orb and I kind of stopped to collect myself
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and I'm like, what, you know, thinking, is this like
a plane or is it a drone, but it was
directly right where the top of the tree line was
and I'm just watching this thing and it has this
whitish blue hue to it, and it almost seemed like
it was kind of aware of me, if that makes
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you know. I know that sounds so crazy. But it
slowly moved to the left and it just dimmed out
of sight, and I was already yelling for them, and
I'm like, you know, hey, come out here, there's something
in the trees and the sky, and like, come out
and look at this. And of course, by the time
everybody listened and came outside, it had dimmed and had
just disappeared. So I was like, I don't know what
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the heck's going on, you know, there's so much going on.
And as we're all walking around outside, more orbs show up.
And there's four of them, and there's two next to
each other, there's a space in between, and there's two
on the right side, and they're in the same spot
at the tree line, but they're moving, but they're just
going in kind of like a straight line up in
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the sky and they do the same thing that the
first one did, and they just kind of hover to
the left and then they just kind of blipped out,
and so you know, they finally see it, and we're
just kind of again, we're it's just what the heck
is happening, and we're trying to think about what it was,
and we're you know, we're rolling out airplanes. There were
no flashing lights, there were no drones, no indications of
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anything other than it was just plain old orbs. So
around maybe eleven fifteen, his buddy and his wife are
retiring and they're going to head into the cabin and
my husband and I were sitting on this porch and
we're just having a good time chatting and it's dark
and we're just you know, having conversations and it just
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I think back on it all the time. It just
never leaves my mine. But it was almost like a
Native American ceremony coming out of the woods. And I
mean drums, the flutes, anything that you could possibly think of,
and I mean the chattering. This conversation is still kind
of going on and off this whole entire time, and
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you know, we're just sitting here listening to this like
this is the most insane but coolest thing. And again,
you're trying to rationalize what's going on, Like, is this
somebody out in the woods camping? Is this you know,
maybe somebody's actually having a ceremony. You know, Daniel Boone
is prime location, sacred land for multiple tribes that have
traveled through. So we're just kind of sitting here just
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debating and listening. So we joke around and we go
and get the two by four that his friend had gotten,
and we knock and nothing happens. So we go back
up on the porch and from the front gate we
hear a response. So we're looking at each other and
we're like, what the heck, you know, and he's like,
you want to go up there? I'm like, heck, no,
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I don't want to go off there. I'm scared. But
you know, this is it's getting so interesting, Like there's
just so much happening in this one singular moment. And
at this point it had probably been thirty to forty
minutes of just this on and off chattering, this ceremony, music,
the knock, and then it just gets even weirder. So
about maybe five minutes later after this happened, we hear
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a whistle and we're staring off on the right side
of the cabin, and the outside of his cabin is
completely covered in gravel due to the snakes. He said
he wanted to have the gravel to make sure that
the snakes, you know, he could see the snakes come in.
And the right side of the cabin that we're facing
drops off into this big ravine that leads down into
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like this gully that is this huge field, And so
we hear this whistle come from where the gully's at,
and we're like, maybe it's just a bird, you know,
but it's like a three piece whistle, like a human
would whistle, but not distinctly human. And we're kind of
looking at each other, and you know they you know,
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they always tell you, I'm avalanche and born. They tell
you not to whistle in the dark, and I always
ignore that rule. I don't know why. I probably shouldn't,
but I do. So we're debating, like should we whistle back,
should we mimic it? And after a couple more whistles,
we're like, okay, we're gonna whistle back. So we whistle
back and we mimic this thing's whistle, and it whistles
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back again. So we're kind of getting like amped up
and We're like, oh man, this is kind of creepy,
but this is so cool. So we whistle back and
forth for maybe a minute or two, and then we're like,
we wonder what would happen if we changed up our whistle.
So we changed up our whistle to some kind of
crazy whistle and it actually mimicked our whistle, and we
just kind of sat on the porch like whoa, Like
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this is kind of getting a little little too weird
for us. And then the whole entire forest goes quiet.
No more whipper wheels, no more crickets, The chattering hasn't
come back, it's been gone. The ceremonial sounding music stops,
and it's just I mean, if somebody would have dropped
a pin, you could have heard it forty feet away.
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And as we're sitting there where like just kind of listening,
we hear these big, crunchy footsteps coming towards the front
of the gate where the goalie's at, and it just
kind of gets closer and closer and closer. But the
footsteps don't sound normal. They're bipedal, for sure, but they
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take big, long strides. But when they lifted the foot,
it was almost as if it was like a dragging motion,
like a lazy walk, and it just keeps coming directly
where we're sitting. And my husband's kind of panicking and
he's like, what is that? And I'm like, I don't know.
And so he takes the flashlight off the shelf that
we're sitting by and he shines it down the side
of the cabin and there's nothing. And he's kind of panicking.
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And you know, if he's panicking, I'm panicking because you know,
he's he's my husband. If he's scared, then I have
reason to be scared, you know. And so this thing
gets closer and closer, and I'm talking, it gets so
close within probably forty feet. It's so heavy you can
feel the steps it's taking. And he grabs the the fleer,
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which is a thermal that his friend had, and he
takes it looking for any kind of heat source down
the cabin. There's nothing, so he grabs the flashlight again,
looking there's absolutely nothing. So he freaks out and he's like,
I'm going inside. If you want to figure out what
this thing is, be my guess. You know. He leaves
me on the porch. I still joke about it to
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this day, but in the moment, it was actually so scary,
and so as much as I wanted to stay outside
and try to see what this thing was, you know,
it wasn't showing up on thermal. I don't know if
maybe we were looking in the wrong place, but it
was so close we couldn't see it with a flashlight.
We ran inside. We shut the door and locked it,
and his buddy came out of the room because we
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were making so much noise, and I guess we woke
him up, and he was like, what's going on, And
you know, we're like, you know, whistling and like whispering,
like be quiet, you know, listen. And since it had stormed,
we had all the windows open and we all huddled
in his room with his wife still, you know, laying there,
and we were listening through this open window with the
screen and you could still hear this thing walking around
the cabin for maybe a good fifteen minutes. And my
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husband he was like, you know, should we open the door,
should we open the window? But it was so dark,
you know, they call it country dark, so you can't
see your own hand in front of your face. And
I told him, you know, as long as this thing,
whatever this is, isn't trying to come through the door
or knock the cabin down or get inside. I was like,
I think we're good. You know, we'll just go to bed.
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It's been a super hectic night, but you know, there's
not much else you can do, you know. So we
go to bed and we wake up first thing in
the morning, and his buddy had already gone up and
gone down to the lake to go fishing. So I
was like, I want to go outside, and I want
to see if there's anything, you know, turned over or
messed up, to see if this thing had touched anything.
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So I go outside and I'm just scouring all over
the place and I go to the side of the
cabin where this thing had come up to the side
of the porch, and I found a footprint and it
was deeply embedded in the gravel. And I know it
took something so heavy to make this indentation, because it
you know, something would have to be that heavy to
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make the gravel sink into the dirt that way. And
I was so excited. I took a bunch of pictures,
and his buddy eventually came back and I made him
swear up and down that he wasn't, you know, joking
with me. He wasn't trying to fool me, prank me.
And he swore up and down. He was like, I
would not do that to you. You know, I know
how serious the subject is. And I went to tell
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him about it, and he was like, well, let me park.
He came up with the four wheeler. He said, let
me park my four wheeler and I'll come look at it. Well,
unbeknownst to him, I guess he really didn't know where
it was, because he ended up running the footprint over
with the four wheeler. I was so distraught. I wanted
to try and measure it and put something next to
it to like kind of show the size of it.
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But it, you know, things happen for a reason. It
is what it is. The next night, I tried to
imitate what we did with the two by four to
see if we could get any other you know, activity
of whatever this thing was. Nothing happened. It was a
normal It was a normal night. And the next day
we had to leave. We packed up and we went home,
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and that was one of the most memorable moments you know,
of my life. And I truly do believe amongst everything
else that happened, it was a bigfoot, which led me
to you know, that's my first experience other than my
dad telling me these stories and these tales, you know,
Patterson Gimlin film of Patty. So I just wanted more
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and I was digging and somebody told me about they
had the conference down in Gatlinburg, Tennessee for the Bigfoot Festival.
And I was so excited and I begged my husband.
I was like, please, can we go? And I had
such a fun time. It's such a great conference. And
that's where I ran into another group and I followed
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them to the Triangle conference up in Keshoktan, Ohio, and
I asked them if I could go out with them
sometimes and they said yes, which I'll keep their names,
you know, hidden in private, just for personal reasons. But
I went out with them for three years and it
was just the time of my life, you know, going
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from hearing these tales and these stories to actually being
out at night in you know, boots on the ground,
out in the woods having these experiences. And I've seen
everything from orbs at night that looked like you know,
fairy lights, to I've seen an orb during the day
that looked like the size of the beach ball. And
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I'm also a medium, so I don't know if that
could have been from what I'm seeing, or if that
would have been, you know, something to do with bigfoot
during the day. But I mean so many different things.
I've been zapped before. Where we were having activity, where
rocks were being thrown, and one of the ladies in
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the group, you know, she was sitting there in the chair,
and I wanted to make sure she was okay because
they had had a previous encounter with these things throwing
some pretty heavy rocks. And as I was standing there
talking to her, my legs completely gave out. I collapsed
like a sack of potatoes, like I had run ten miles.
And I panicked and I started crying, and I was,
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you know, yelling for one of the guys, and I
legitimately could not use my legs. So I sat in
the car for about forty minutes, and it really did.
It scared me so bad I thought I wouldn't go
back out. And I just didn't really know what to
make of it because I had heard stories of them
having you know, the infra sound different things like that,
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but that was one of the most other craziest times.
But you know, there's just so many, so many stories.
So the first time I went out with this group,
you know, I was a little hesitant. My husband went
with me, and it was myself, my husband and two
other gentlemen. And we go to this area that you know,
it's they call it home base, and we're going into
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the woods about forty minutes. You know, no car. The
only thing we carry are red lights. We have bright
lights for backup. And we're going in. You know, it's
just us four. They're leading the way and we're taking
up the back of the line and we get to
this spot where we sit and we're sitting there and
just having conversation. We just kind of talk while it's
dark and you know, everything's kind of calm, and he says, well,
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there's a second area where you can go up here
and it's kind of more of an active hot spot.
So I'm like, okay, you know, this is my first
time being out doing this kind of thing. I'm scared.
You know, I'm absolutely scared. You know, if somebody tells
you being in the woods at night isn't scary, I
don't agree. It's it's scary because you just don't know
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what's watching, you know, what's in there, that kind of thing.
So he's like, well, we'll get up, we'll go to
this side of the to the area. We'll see if
we can get any activity. This is where they had
their bait box, and they would put jars of peanut
butter that they would screw so tight that, you know,
something with thumbs had to have been able to open it.
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It wouldn't have been a raccoon or anything like that.
And as we're making our way back there, it just
gets again quiet there. You know, the crickets stop, the
birds stop, and you know, all the hair on the
back of my neck and my arms raises up and
I'm like, man, I'm getting this really weird feeling. And
he's like, yeah, that's usually what happens when you're back here,
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and I'm like okay. So we keep going and we
get to this tree where they have the peanut butter
and he replaces the old peanut butter that was there,
which is gone, and he's like, I'll put a new
jar peanut butter there. So I'm like okay. And the
younger guy had what they call a call blaster so
they have different animal sounds, you know, coyote, wolf, pig,
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any kind of animal that you could think of that
would be in the woods. I mean even farm animals.
Animals were on there. And so he says, I'm gonna
do a deer in distress and I'm like, oh, okay,
you know, first time being out, this is a little creepy,
this is a little much, but we're just gonna roll
with it. So he does this deer in distress sound,
and you hear this branch break off in the right
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and I'm like, okay, you know, that could be anything.
You could have spooked a deer or you know, I
mean literally anything could have been a squirrel running away.
But we stay there for a couple more minutes and
he's like, well, nothing's happening, but that feeling, that heavy
weighted feeling and like you're being watched is still there.
And I'm like, all right. So one guy's in front,
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my husband and myself are standing next to each other,
and the other main guy is behind us, and he
tells the guy with a blaster to do a pig sound,
and it is the most awful sound I think I've
ever heard in my life. It's just just a horrendous sound,
especially when you're in the woods in the middle of
the night, you know, out there with people you've met
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for the first time. And so he calls off this
horrible pig sound and again it goes quiet, and this
rock comes flying up out of the trees over our heads.
And my first instinct was it's the guy behind us,
you know, he's he's joking, he's throwing the rocks, making
us scared, you know, trying to make a fool out
of us. But he comes rushing up to us and
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he's you know, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh
my gosh, like turn your lights out, and he's got
us all huddled in this little group, and I'm you know,
panicking because I'm like, what the heck is happening? You know,
no one's ever told me out of all the stories
that I've heard about like rocks being thrown, it's just
been you know, simple stories. And so I'm like, Okay, well,
maybe he's not joking, maybe this was really is for real.
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And then another rock comes from the left, so I'm like, Okay,
now I can solidify that it's not this guy, you know, joking,
and trying to prank us. So at that point, I'm like,
I'm ready to go. I told him, I'm like, I
want to get out of here. I was panicking. I
was I was literally about to have a panic attack.
And he was like, no, no, we got to wait
for a couple more minutes. You know, see what they do. Well,
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then another rock comes flying at us. No rock ever
hit us, but it was just the fact that you know,
you're out there in the dark and you can't see
who or what's throwing these things at you. So finally
he was like, okay, okay, we'll go back to the
original spot we were sitting. And I'm like, all right,
So we turn back around and we go down this
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little little ravine and we go and we find our
spot where we're sitting, and he was telling us to be,
you know, careful where you're stepping because off to the
side of this spot where we sit was this drop off,
and if a regular human were to fall down this
drop off, I mean you could easily break your leg,
if not your neck. It was a very steep, steep
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drop off. And so everything kind of calmed down. We
sat found our places. Ten minutes later, a rock comes
from the bottom of the ravine, and I'm thinking, you know,
how can something or someone if somebody's trying to you know,
if it's not him, you're trying to rationalize, like as
somebody else out here playing a prank. But there's no
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way that somebody could throw a rock so accurately in
the dark from such a low point to such a
high point. It just it's impossible. So the rocks kind
of kept coming, and at this point he was like,
you know, I think we've learned our lesson, Like they
want us to go. They're not being like super aggressive,
but they don't want us here anymore, or they're just
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not playing around. So we packed up our stuff and
we started hiking out, and I was shaking. I was
absolutely shaking. I was having an adrenaline rush. I was
scared out of my mind. I was just I mean,
my light was like I was at a rave, just
shaking my hands, and you could hear these things walking
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us out, and there was one on the left side
and there was one on the right. And I was
gripping onto my husband's hand for dear life, and he
didn't even know what to do. You know, like you're
in this situation that you've put yourself in, but it's
just something that you would have never gotten to experience
if you hadn't. But so we keep walking and you
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can hear these things stepping on either side, and we
would stop walking, and you would hear them take a
couple steps on each side, and then they would stop walking,
and then we would continue walking. They would continue walking.
And I always thought that was really neat when I
look back on it, because you know, these things are
so smart. It's like playing chess with them. They are
always two steps ahead no matter what you do. So
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we finally made it to the end of this trail
and I'm you know, I see the car and I'm
I'm elated. I cannot get out of there fast enough.
And we run to the car and we're standing there
talking and you know, we're joking at this point, and
he's like, well, how is your first, you know, your
first outing? And I'm still shaking, and I'm like, wow,
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you know, I didn't even have the words like I'm terrified,
but this was absolutely like mind mind opening and just
tripping over my words. And I still am thinking about it.
And then we get hit with this smell and we're
right by the car. So I was like, man, that
smells awful. And it smelled like a mixture of just
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skunk and rotting, you know, like a rotting corpse in
the woods of an animal, like a rotting animal. And
he was like, well, that's our cue to go, because
he said that was the cue that they had pretty
much followed us up to the tip of the point
where we were standing right by the cars, and he
was like, we need to get out of this area.
(27:59):
So that was my first real encounter with these creatures,
these beings being out in the woods, and it just
kept progressing even more after that. I went on so
many trips we've been down to. You know, majority of
the areas I've been to have been southern Ohio, which
is where I live. And that prompted the very first
(28:23):
night that I actually did get to lay my eyes
on one, and that was in May of twenty twenty three.
It just started to kind of warm up. And I
have Newfoundlands, I have three of them, and I wanted
to take one of them for a walk in this area.
And this area that we go to is a mixture
between private and public, so there are homes on this area,
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but there are public trails where you can kind of
walk through, so you got to kind of be careful
where you're going. But I wanted to take her on
a good long hike. You know, it had been a
cold winter and I wanted to stretch her legs. So
I take her and she's about one hundred and fifteen pounds.
She's my no nonsense dog. My other two boys they're goofy,
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but she's she's my protector. So we you know, I
pack her up, we're going, and we're walking and it
goes to this spot where it overlooks this lake and
it's absolutely beautiful. You know, there's water sources here. And
I let her sit and relaxing for a little bit,
and she's absolutely fine. You know, she's not having an issue.
(29:28):
She's rolling on her back, you know, giving her lovings.
We get up and we go on this secondary trail
and we come to this curve in the in the
trail and she will not go any farther. And I've
never had her do this since previous or you know,
after she just put her hawks on and her heels
(29:49):
down and she would not go any further. And you know,
I'm tugging on her, and I'm like, hey, you know,
it's all right, Like let's go and nothing, you know,
nothing's wrong. We'll go. And I just started getting this
feeling like she's never done this before. I should listen
to her. So I was like, Okay, you know, we
won't go any further. I'll turn around and we'll go home.
So I called up my buddies from the group and
(30:10):
I was like, I think these things are back in
the area, you know. I told them that she's not
going any further, and she was just adamant about it,
just completely adamant, did not want to go a step further.
So they were like, okay, well, next weekend, we'll get
our stuff together and we'll go down to this spot.
And I'm like okay, So we get all of our stuff.
(30:30):
The weekend comes and we go up and we're sitting
by the lake and it's maybe a twenty minute walk
into the woods. It's not the same as the other one,
but it's in the same area, just not as far in.
And we're sitting there and they have these benches and
it's this old trail that has concrete on it and
it branches off between this old concrete and then there's
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a dirt path that goes down to the lake, and
then on the right side is more concrete and we're
sitting on these benches overlooking the lake a good time,
and there are two inches so I'm staring at the
lake and my two buddies at the time were staring
off to my right. So I'm staring forward and they're
staring to my right, and you know, we're having a conversation.
(31:14):
Two hours go by, there's literally nothing happening, and all
of a sudden, one of the guys jumps up and
he just starts screaming something at the top of his lungs.
And my brain, you know, I look back on it,
and I'm like, what did he just say? You know,
my brain could not comprehend it. He said it so fast,
it was, you know, and I look where he looks,
(31:38):
and I see it, and I'll never forget it in
my life. And it just ran by at such an
inhuman speed. And that's one of the most prominent things
that I always remember when somebody asks these things are
so incredibly fast that it's it's just not normal. And
(32:00):
I mean, if I would have gotten up from this
bench and took one step. This thing was probably forty
to fifty feet away. It would have been in my
face by the time I had taken a singular step.
And as it ran by, it's so it's so mystifying
to think about it. It's scary, but it was also
just so beautiful. It was a beautiful experience. And it
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was about four foot tall, and I unfortunately didn't get
to see the face, but I saw the hair was
a light gray, and I know that because it just
shone like the hair almost had like a glimmer. It
just it shone brighter than the actual nightness, like the nighttime.
(32:45):
And as it ran, it swung its left arm, and
its arm was so long and it almost drugged down
to its knee, and I could see its hand and
its skin. Its skin was almost like a charcoal, so
its skin was darker than its actual hair. And I
say hair because it wasn't like normal It wasn't like fur.
(33:07):
It was long actual hair, but not like human hair.
I can't think of like an actual animal right now
to describe it, but it was hair. And as the
arm swung, I just the movement. It was so fluid,
and as it ran, it just went right up that
dirt ravine, and it went into the woods and it
didn't make a single sound as it hit the dirt.
(33:29):
It didn't, you know, make any snaps of any trees
or twigs or anything. But what he had yelled when
he jumped up, he had yelled, something's running. And when
I looked over, the sound that he was hearing, and
I eventually heard, once my brain cleared, was the feet
of it slapping on the concrete, and it sounded like
a kid running around a pool during the summer, you know,
(33:53):
the little their feet, how it slaps. But just the
fact that it had ran so fast, and then how
quiet it had gotten when it ran up the up
the hill, because you know, you would expect something to
make a noise with how fast this thing was it
was trucking, but it never did. And I don't know
(34:14):
if it was there because we were there, or if
it was just coincidentally running by or running to check
us out. I don't know. But the first thing that
crossed my mind was we need to get out of here,
because if this is a juvenile, then mom and Dad
are not Mom and Dad are not far away, and
I did not want to be anywhere near where this
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thing was just because you know, any animal like bears,
you just know if there are cubs around, mom and
Dad are in the area, and you don't want to
stick around. So we packed everything up and you know,
we just walked back in complete silence. We just kind
of didn't even know what to say. I was the
only one that saw it. The other two didn't get
(34:57):
to see it. The one to hurt it, but he
only caught a glimpse of the shadow. I was the
only one who accurately saw it run by. And it
just astounds me to this day that, you know, I
think about it, and I've gone out several times since
seeing it, and it did change the way I look
at the woods, because you know, I've I've had so
(35:18):
many encounters of rocks and the orbs and the whistling
and just so many different things. But to actually see
one and put it into perspective of like solidifying that
these things are actually real, it really did make me
think twice. And you know, everybody always tells you when
you go out in the woods, take a take a
(35:40):
you know your safety, take your safety, make sure you're safe,
and you have things that will make you safe. And
to me, absolutely nothing that I could carry for my
safety would do any harm. There would be nothing that
would prevent these things from doing what they want to do.
(36:02):
And I carry that with me because you know, you
carry safeties and things like that for animals, and we've
run into other people. But these things are just absolutely
magnificent in such a terrifying way, and I'm thankful that
majority of the encounters of things that I've had with
them have been low to minimal aggression. I've heard other
(36:26):
stories of just nightmare fuel of these things being angry
and territorial and things like that. So I'm very blessed
to say that, you know, I've seen one and had
other encounters of mystifying things, and it's just led me
to keep pursuing them and doing what I'm doing. And
(36:47):
I love what I do, and you know, talking to
people and doing podcasts and shows like this has been
such a blessing, and hopefully I will continue to travel
around and find new mysteries and solve them and see
more of the unknown that I feel is something that
most people don't get to see. You know, how many
(37:08):
people do you know that are actually out looking for
these things or have seen something like this? Because most
people are you know, in bed at that time or
too scared to go out. And I'm thankful that I've
been given the opportunity to have the experiences that I've had.
But that pretty much sums up my bigfoot encounters.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well, you've had some amazing ones, that's for sure. Yeah,
the place where you moved to in Kentucky was a
primary for sasquatch, of course, But did you live in
an area in Ohio, Fairfield, Ohio that was a prime
location also, or was more in the city and therefore
not a good spot to find one.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
It was more of like this city. We lived there
for probably five years, and we just it wasn't really
our cup of tea. So we moved down to the
mountain range of the apple Achians. So like the lower
Southern Raisin excuse me region region of Ohio is where
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we are now.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Any place around the apple Achians is a pretty area,
So that's not bad at all. Was it hard for
you to adjust to living on the new property or
did you take to it like a duck on the
gin bug.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
We took to it pretty well. We kind of do
like a little bit of homesteading, and we have you
know animals, and we've got a couple of acres that
back up to more empty acres. It's probably about like
ten empty acres over there, and more more so farming
fields here. But the areas that we do go bigfooting
(38:51):
are heavily wooded, multiple multiple acres of just forest.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, that's my kind of kind. I can understand why
you'll like it. When you and your husband were sitting
in the front of that cabin that night listening to
that chattering, I know that you were frightened, but was he.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I think in the beginning he was okay. I think
the more it kind of went on because I had heard,
you know, the Sierra sounds and things like that, and
I just he was a little more of like, what
is that. He's pretty level headed, I would says, he's
my rock and the relationship, so if I'm scared, he's
(39:35):
usually here with words of wisdom or just being support.
I think hearing the chattering kind of became real when
we heard the footsteps more is probably more of what
scared him than anything. The chattering. I just don't know
if it was them talking or if it was something,
(39:58):
you know, spiritu or something else. I don't know, but
it was very unnerving to hear it. At the same time, well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Sure it was. And when you hear those heavy footsteps approaching,
that's when the kids real So everything you said makes sense,
it really does. You said that the whistle that you
two heard that night sounded mostly human. What quality, though,
did it have that you would describe as not sounding human?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
It almost had like how do I explain it? And
it almost had like a like a heaviness to it,
like a guttural almost like if which I've never heard,
you know, but like if a gorilla were to whistle.
And that's such a bad comparison because I've never heard
that either, But that's like the only it just sounded animalistic.
(40:50):
It didn't have that quality of a human, but it
was like a three piece whistle, so like I would
think that a human would do it, but it was
more animalistic than a human. It was just very Again,
it was unnerving. It was nerve wracking. It was because you're,
you know, you want to place blame on it being
(41:11):
a human, but then there's something in the back of
your mind and you're like, something's not quite right about
what we just heard.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I can only imagine the thoughts must have been going
through your head understandably, so when you two heard those
footsteps approaching you that night, it obviously shook you up,
so you headed inside. But have you ever regretted doing
that after the fact, even though you tried to see
what it was through the windows that night.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
No, I think that was as crazy as it sounds.
I think that was something that we were meant to experience.
I think it really did set a foundation for just
being able to have that experience. And I just can't explain.
The whole entire thing was terror, but it was also
(42:01):
just the neatest thing, like how many people have experienced that?
And it really did it led me to you know,
the group that I found, and just being able to
be brave enough to want to know more. You know,
most people are happy with settling, well maybe this was this,
and that's you know, they're going to leave it at that.
But for me, it's really opened up a door of
(42:22):
you know, I want to I want to know more.
I want more knowledge, and I want to learn and
be open to different things and experience different things. And
you know, most people are okay with the mundane, you know,
day to day but it really showed me that there's
more out there in the world that I want to
learn from and see. So I don't regret it one bit.
(42:44):
As scary as it was, I don't regret it one bit.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I think, oh, that's great. As long as you don't
have any regrets, that's always a good thing. And it's
a lot like that car crash that you can't look
away from. You don't want to watch it, but you
have to.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, that's a good Anne.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yes, Yeah, that's what it is. My opinion. When you
found that footprint in the gravel later on, how big
would you guess it was since you weren't able to
measure it because of the quad Oh.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Man, looking back, So I have a size nine in
women's and it was probably, Oh goodness, I would say
maybe around thirteen inches, which is still you know, somebody
might have a foot that big. But I asked him,
(43:32):
and you know, I just making sure again that he
wasn't pranking me in His response was, nobody out here
is dumb enough to run around, especially barefoot in the
hills of Kentucky because of all the snakes and everything
like that. So you know, to me, that's who else
(43:53):
would be leaving such massive footprints with such a heavy
weight to compress rocks that way. You know, there's you
just try to find something that you want, you want
it to be, but some things just don't add up,
and that's what leaves you answering, you know, just you
want to know more.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Oh yeah, naturally, and it feels only thirteen inches long.
It couldn't have been a big one because my foot
is really close to thirteen inches long too, So it
must have been a juvenile when you went to home
base later on and had your next experience. How far
was home base from your home?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
It is only around twenty two minutes from me. Now,
oh close, it's very close.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yes, yeah it is, i'd say. Now, you told us
that it's scary for you to be in the woods
at night, and I can understand that. But does that
mean that it's been a struggle for you to go
out on outings looking for sasquatch or has it been
fairly easy for you to manage the fear.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
It's kind of a balance. Some days I will be
fine while we go out, and you know, you always
want to make sure when you go out in the
woods that you have somebody with you or multiple people.
You know, you never want to go out alone. That's
not safe. Even if you're not just dealing with bigfoot,
you know there are other animals, other people, Accidents can happen,
(45:20):
you can fall, and you know somebody might not know
where you are. But it's it's definitely been a balance.
Some days I'll be fine and depends, you know, if
we're joking around how my company is and how the
mood of the setting is. But there are other days
where I just I am scared and I will say
(45:41):
that there you know, my hair raises up on the
back of my neck, especially if we start getting activity,
or even if there's not activity, I feel like my
head is kind of on a swivel. I'm always checking
left and right, checking behind me, which you know might
not be any good because if they want to be seen,
I firmly believe they want to be seen, they will
let you see them. Otherwise you might not even know
(46:03):
they're there. So it definitely has made me think twice
about going and I will get almost kind of like
a weird feeling of like, hey, maybe I shouldn't go
out tonight, because I've had a couple instances where some
of my older friends will ask like, hey, do you
want to go out to some of our spots, And
I'll tell them no, just because something isn't sitting right
(46:25):
in my gut. And I try to always listen to that,
and it has definitely changed the way I think about things.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Well, I'm glad you listened to your intuition. Yeah, a
little bit of fear is a good thing, So glad
you do that. After that guy in your group played
that pig sound and the leader of your group wound
up telling everyone to turn off your lights, how close
were you to swearing off ever heading into the woods
ever again? Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:53):
It was very, very close. They didn't think they would
ever see me again, and it took me about a
three week period to a month to finally go back again.
They had asked a couple of previous times afterwards if
I wanted to go back out, and I told them no,
I was, I really was. I was shaken. It was
(47:15):
a life alternating experience, even though I didn't see what
was throwing these rocks, you know, again just having you know,
and they're not even like that big of a rock,
you know. Some of them were small, some of them
were decent size, but I'm not like a boulder. But
just having these things throw something at you with such
(47:37):
precision in the dark is astronomical. You know, it takes
so much force and for them to I mean, I've
seen rocks land right at people's feet. They've never hit anybody.
They've hit cars and things like that. Or they'll land,
like I said, right at somebody's feet, but they've never
hit somebody. But just the just the precision of these
(47:58):
things makes you second guess, like whether you want to
go out because you just know that they could hit
you if they wanted to.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
Oh, definitely. Yeah. Their accuracy is no joke. And there's
so many things about them that just make you wonder
how they do these things. I mean, they're ridiculously accurate.
They can run faster than I'll get out, and they
can do so many of the things. They can spider
walk faster than most people can run. It just makes
you wonder how do they do all these things? It
(48:28):
really does make you wonder that. And talking about the
speed at which they can move. When you saw that
juvenile run at such a fast speed, would you describe
it as being curtain fast?
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Ah? Yes? Almost, Like oh man, what was it the
road runner? It was just I mean literally in the
blink of an eye. If I hadn't turned my head
right when I had, I would have never I would
have never seen it. And I mean it was such
a fast blur. That's why I didn't get a look
(49:00):
at the face or really anything else. I just had
enough time to see about how tall it was the
arm swing the hair, you know, and just how long
the hair was and how long the arm reaching down
to the kneecap. And that was pretty much the only
amount of time I had. It was in the blink
of an eye.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
They do so many things so well, it's almost like
it's not fair.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, you're telling me.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, I'd say what direction was it moving in relation
to you? Was it moving perpendicular to the direction you
were facing at the time, or did it move kind
of off at an angle relative to the direction you're facing.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
It moved off into an angle in the direction I
was facing, and it had come from the way that
we had walked in, so I don't know if it
had been tailing us or if it smelled us by chance.
And that's why, you know, again, curiosity, if it knew
that we were there, and it was following and wanted
(50:05):
to run by to see or if it had just
ran by us and didn't even know that we were there,
or you know, I'm sure, I'm sure it probably did
know we were there and it just had to get
by and it ran. I don't know the reasoning, but
it did. It ran kind of off to the side,
up into that hill, into the woods, and that was.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
It when it was running away at that angle relative
to the direction you were facing. I know it's really
hard to get a beat on this because of the blur,
but did you ever get the impression that it might
have looked back at you?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Almost I wouldn't say look back as in like while
it was running, but I a part of me thinks
that it was still there when we walked out. And
that's one of the reasons why I just kind of
wanted to get out of there, because, you know, if
I knew if it was in the area, then Mom
and Dad or another family member was somewhere either close
(51:05):
or also watching, and it did. It had that feeling
of because I think about it all the time, if
it ran up into the woods and it didn't make
a sound, I always think, you know, did it run
by and kept going, but it didn't make a sound,
or did it run up and did it stop? And
that's why I didn't hear anything else. But a part
of me does think that maybe it had stopped and
(51:27):
watched us leave.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
For sure, Well, either possibility could definitely explain it anything.
What you saw is it was moving, give you the
impression it might have been running because it was afraid,
or are you convinced that it was running the way
it did for some other reason.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I think I would be convinced that it was just
running to either get by or to just check us out.
I don't think it would have been afraid. I've had
other instances where I was with another friend and we
had another what we would consider probably a juvenile experience,
not a sighting, But they're very playful when they want
(52:08):
to be, and they'll kind of do like these pops
and snap kind of noises. So I don't think that
it was scared of us being there. And you know,
these things are no matter what the size, are so
strong and athletic, and I don't think it was scared
of us one bit.
Speaker 2 (52:26):
You're probably right, because yeah, I'm sure he knew full
well you'd never be able to catch him, so why
should he be afraid?
Speaker 1 (52:32):
Right?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, definitely due to how fast he was moving or
she was moving. Are you convinced that it must have
had qualities that preclude the chance of it being some ordinary,
flesh and blood creature or do you still think that
what you saw that day was an ordinary creature that
is just out there trying to make a living in
the woods the best it can and has no special abilities.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
I definitely think it was not of the ordinary. It
was just again in human speed, and it was around
like forty to fifty feet away. And when I say,
it could have been up on me in a blink
of an eye. And it does kind of scare me
when I think back at it, because there would have
(53:19):
been nothing I could have done about it. But it is,
It's in human speed, and it's not natural. And I
don't know whether I would contribute that to certain gifts
or if that's just the way that they are being
so adapted to living out there. I couldn't say, but
it was definitely not something just normally out there. It
(53:42):
was on two feet and just absolutely blew by there.
There was nothing normal about it.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
I can understand why you would say that. And I've
gone on the record plenty of times stating how silly
I think it is to think that you're going to
be able to protect yourself against a sayqatch that has
it end for you with any kind of a gun,
exactly because of what you experienced there. There have been
so many credible eyewitnesses such as yourself have talked about
(54:10):
witnessing these guys move a cartoon speed. Well, I don't
care what kind of weapon you have in your hands.
These guys are obviously masters of the woods. If they
really want to take you out, they can be on
you and break your knack or do whatever they want
to do to you before you can do anything with
any kind of a gun to them. So to think
that because you have a gun in your hands, or
(54:32):
a gun on your head or whatever, to think that's
going to protect you in any way against one of
these guys who wants to hurt you or kill you
as just a joke. And that right there is exactly
why I've said, not just them, but about dog men
as well. It's just a joke to think that you
can protect yourself against a dog man or a sasquatch
that really has it in for you in the woods.
(54:54):
You're never going to be able to do it. You
never will. You said that the sighting chained the way
you see the woods. Has that changed that you've experienced
been all good or have so? Negative things come along
with that as well.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
I would say, well, it's a well balanced I have
a deep connection. I'm indigenous, so I you know, I
have a deep connection to the land, and I always
go with respect and have my offerings and my prayers
and things like that. So I'm out in nature all
the time, you know, doing ceremonies or just you know,
(55:32):
being in my backyard and doing what I can out
in nature. And so it's it comes with its blessings
of being connected and you know, every animal, every creature
is so wonderful, and you know, you spend time out
in the rivers and the creeks and hiking and things
like that. But the the negative side has come with
(55:53):
it kind of steals that piece of safety away. Like
you said, you know, no matter what you would want
to do, whether you're having a gun or any kind
of weapon, it's it's not going to do any good.
So it is a balanced game. Of trying to feel
that piece. And it's also hard because you know, I
(56:14):
think these things have been here so many, so many,
so many years longer than we have, and you know,
they're part of nature as well. It's just that that
balance of realizing that they are any other being or
creature or animal that's out there, just like we are,
just like any other animal, and they should have their
due respect and like anything else. But it does come
(56:37):
with the risk of you know, wandering into water or
into their territory like you would any other predator, and
you just have to be super cautious of where you're
going and what you're doing. And it changes the way
you look at things, and it does bring that fear
factor for sure when you're out, whether you want it
to or not.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Well, like I said, fear is a good thing to
have in the woods because it'll keep you out of
a lot of trouble. So I'm glad you have it now.
Having so much fear that you're paralyzed by that's not
a good thing. But yeah, that doesn't apply to you,
So thank goodness for that. Magnificent in the terrifying ways,
how you summed up that experience of seeing that juvenile
(57:16):
move so fast. You still go out on these outings
obviously because you want to see one. But is there
quite a bit of uncertainty on how much you actually
want to have another sighting because of how you summed
up that experience with the juvenile, or are you full
go you definitely want to have another sighting.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I actually do I want to have another sighting. There
is again there's that fear, which it is a good thing.
I think about seeing the juvenile and how much it
kind of shook me because you know, you think about like, oh,
you know Bigfoot or you know any other cryptid and
you're like, ah, you know, you kind of brush it off.
When you actually do see one just really brings it
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into reality for you. And it is it is scary,
but it's also something that is so neat and I,
you know, just seeing a smaller like a juvenile one.
And I don't know whether seeing an adult one would
be worse or if it would be better. I don't
I don't know, but I definitely I do think I
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would love to, which would probably be you know, any
bigfooter's wish to interact with one in a peaceful manner,
and you know, I've heard so many stories of people
who have, you know, had lives shared with these things
in a in a peaceful and positive way. And I
know there's the other side of the line where they
haven't had that, but I, you know, there's just that
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kind of hope in the back of my mind that
maybe I will see one or you know, develop some
kind of wishful thinking of not a relationship, but some
kind of coincide of you know, hey, you know I'm
here in this area, I know you here, and maybe
they'll let me see them one day. And if that's
all I get, then I'll be fine with that. But
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you know, you can always wish for more.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Well between you and me, I don't think you're done
by a long shot having experiences. I wouldn't be surprised
if you do have at least one other sighting sometime
down the road, probably several before it's all said and done.
And of course I have my fingers crossed for you.
I hope you definitely do some time.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Thank you, Oh, you're welcome.
Speaker 2 (59:29):
Well. Having said that, Sabrina, I can't thank you enough
for coming on and sharing the details of all these
experiences with us. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Oh, I appreciate it. I'm so thankful to be here
and to talk about it. And it's always nice to
get it off your chest and to share what you have,
and you know, to anybody listening, that's also another beautiful
thing for you know, podcasts and hosts like you who
take the time out of their day to let people
talk about their encounters and to really relive it and
to get it off their chest. That's that's a really
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incredible thing that you're doing. So thank you for having
me on here and it means the world to me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Glad to do it, Glad to give you another eyewitnesses
a platform to talk about your experiences. But having said that,
thanks again so much for coming on and doing this,
and have a great night. That's it for another episode
of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with Vic Keundiff. If you've had
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a sasquatch encounter and would like to be a guest
on the show, please go to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com
and submit a report. We'd love to hear from you.
Thanks for listening, have a great night.