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July 2, 2025 66 mins
Tonight’s guest, Jimmy Williams, lives in the Ozarks and is known by locals as “The Bigfoot Guy.” Jimmy’s obsession with Sasquatch began 3 years ago, in 2022, when his dad decided to go out “Bigfoot Hunting,” as he put it, in the Kiamichi Mountains of Oklahoma. Since going on that trip to the Kiamichi Mountains, with his dad, he’s had numerous experiences with Sasquatch. We hope you’ll tune into tonight’s show and listen to Jimmy share some of those experiences with you.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
My name's Jimmy Williams. I live here in the Ozarks
and I work as basically as a cashier at a
food store in Eureka Springs. I'm kind of known as
the local bigfoot guy. A lot of people tell me
about their experiences, But my whole story starts back about

(00:25):
two years ago, probably actually at about twenty twenty two
is when it all started. My dad, he wanted to
go bigfoot hunting. And you know, my parents, you know,
were Christians, so things that are unusual have always kind

(00:48):
of been, you know, something that's more accepted with us.
My mom really liked, really likes bigfoot documentaries and stuff
like that. I have I've always thought before that he
was probably just some giant ape out in the woods.

(01:11):
So whenever my dad asked if we wanted to go
bigfoot hunting, he said that a place in the Kaimichi
Mountains of Oklahoma, which is southeast Oklahoma, is probably a
good place to go. So he was he, you know,
told me to go ahead and pick a spot over there,
and we were gonna go camp out there. And so

(01:35):
I picked out a place. We he had this kind
of makeshift oh like a like an old person transporter vehicle.
That's that's the only way I know how to call it.
It's basically kind of a shuttle and he made that

(01:59):
into sort of almost a camper like a camping vehicle.
So we were testing that out and we went out
to this one area called Winding Stair over in Oklahoma,
and uh I picked out that place because mostly because

(02:20):
there was a there was a Bigfoot museum not too
far away from there, Bigfoot Museum of Calloheena, Oklahoma. And
uh so we went out there, we did some hiking
at the area, you know, looked around. Uh the whole
the whole place was was dead as far as wildlife goes.

(02:45):
Lots of lots of tall pine trees. Completely different environment
from southwest Missouri. Uh uh northwest Arkansas area I live in.
So we uh we decided to set up camp there.

(03:06):
It was really really windy the entire time. It was
just non stop wind blowing and didn't experience anything. And
uh so then we decided to go to the Bigfoot
Museum and talk to that lady, you know, so if
she could get here anything. And we talked to Tanya.

(03:29):
She's the one that owns it, and she has a
foot tall bigfoot uh sort of statue in there. It's
a it's a fur kind of like a mannequin kind
of thing of bigfoot. And she has lots of books
and things from people in the in the area, and

(03:54):
we uh we talked to her for a little for
a little while, and the she gave us. She gave
us a few areas to go. One of them was
a place called Billy Creek. It was a pretty well
known area, and so we decided that next time we

(04:15):
were out there we would we would check that out.
So about oh, I'd say, a few weeks later, this
is the summertime. We went out there, went to Billy
Creek and it was pretty packed full of people, but

(04:36):
we did find some interesting things such as tree breaks
about four feet off the ground in a with a
about a pre diameter tree that had been twisted and broken,
which was very odd. You know. That was probably our
first sign of any kind of bigfoot activity from what

(04:59):
we had been told by Tanya. So later on we
camped out there and I could have sworn I had
heard some sort of something that sounded like what I

(05:21):
would have imagined a bigfoot would sound like could have been,
but it was kind of hard to tell because there
was somebody near us that had a generator running, so
it was kind of overpowering the sound and I wasn't
able to record it either didn't come out and recording
at least, So that was it was pretty interesting. We

(05:42):
went out to Billy Creek you know, a few times,
and most of the time there wasn't a whole lot
of activity really of anything at all other than the locals,
you know, running around in four wheelers and stuff. So
it was it was kind of a high traffic area
for the most part. So we found out though that

(06:07):
the Bigfoot Museum was putting on a conference, a Bigfoot conference,
and it was the first one that they ever had.
So this conference started in May, I believe it was
the last part of May going into July, and we

(06:29):
decided to go to it. And so we went out
there to the conference and there were all sorts of
people there that had all kinds of degrees and different things,
you know, zoology, anthropology, psychology, things of that nature, and

(06:50):
they were most of these people with these degrees were
Bigfoot investigators. And that's where I also met uh people
like Brian Terrell from the Red Dirt cryptids investigation. And
I also met a whole lot of other people there

(07:11):
that that had been investigating places like Area X over
there in southeast Oklahoma and other things like that. But
that's where my view of what Bigfoot is kind of switched,
because for a while I just thought it was a

(07:33):
giant ape out there, you know, roaming around. But my
view of them switched to more of a human view
because of the ass I'd seen, and Evisi I'd seen
convinced me more that he was a real being, a
real thing. Now. When we went out there that conference.

(08:00):
For the conference, I was told about another place, which
I won't give that location up. I'll just call it
Oklahoma's Area fifty one. And that place I call it
that because it is a very interesting place where almost
every time I go out there there's something crazy that happens.

(08:22):
In fact, the first time I went out there, I
went out there by myself, which is usually how I
do these investigations. I went out there by myself, and
I was camped in a little area between two dry creeks.
This area that I'm at there is a long road

(08:46):
that stretches for about three or four miles into the woods,
and it's the only way in or out of that area.
So I come to this little camping area and I
set up camp. And the very first night, I'm just

(09:07):
sitting there, just you know, enjoying nature, and I hear,
like at this time, there's there's a lot of bugs
and frogs, and you know, things making sounds. And I
hear almost what's like a cone of silence or something

(09:29):
like this this area, this dead area of silence coming
from within the woods up this dry creek bed, and
it keeps coming closer and closer, and and this area
is finally gets to my to where I'm at, and
everything's just dead, and I hear something walking in the

(09:53):
creek bed, something big. And then I saw a silhouette
of something that must have been ten feet tall, just
this dark silhouette coming into view. Because I was sitting
there looking straight at the creek, dry creek bed, in

(10:14):
an area where there was a bit of a clearing,
and it was a full moon night, but I saw
this thing come into view, and it scared me senseless.
I jumped up and got in my vehicle and I
kind of sat there, and this debated whether I wanted

(10:36):
to leave or not, because I had never encountered anything
like this before, and I was by myself. You know,
I'm not really much of an outdoorsman. I'm no hunter
or anything, so I wasn't armed. I didn't have any
kind of protection with me. But yeah, so I jumped up,

(10:58):
got in my vehicle, and I just kind of sat
there for a little while, debating on whether I wanted
to leave or not. And I eventually decided to go
ahead and stay. And but I stayed in a different area,
stayed in a little area up the road. So after
that experience, I later kept coming back to the same area,

(11:24):
but not that specific camping spot, because I found out
that further up the road was where there was more activity,
and there surely was further up the road I I found.
I found a few little areas. One of them is

(11:47):
the place that I usually go out there at, and
I was hiking down a trail over there and I
found a tree structure, probably the I'd say it's probably
probably the first and best tree structure I ever found.

(12:08):
Very strange it was. It was made of is pretty
old too, but it was made of several different trees
that had been broken off and almost like a teepee,
but it was lashed together with some briers, which I
thought was very odd and uh So I found that

(12:31):
area and then I started to come back and this
place was probably I would say, maybe a quarter of
a mile down into the uh to the wooded area
from that camp spot way back in there. So I

(12:54):
started coming back and I hear something coming up over
the ridge line, because that's where this trail is at.
It's right on the edge of a ridge. And something
was coming up over there, coming up this ridge line.
I couldn't see it or anything at the time, but

(13:15):
it didn't have like hoof sounds, you know, hit and rock.
It sounded. It sounded like just something kind of scrambling
up to try and get up that ridge. And so
I got to about where it was because that sound
was ahead of me a little bit. I got to

(13:35):
where that sound was and looked around, didn't see anything
past the sound, and then I hear something running up
behind me really fast, and I whipped around and I
didn't see anything. As the strangest thing. I'd never experienced
anything like that before. Later later on, I found out

(13:58):
that's what's called a bluff charge is whenever something runs
up towards you in then stops, but I didn't see
what it was that rent up towards me. Now, I
would like to say it's a bigfoot, but I have
no idea that I couldn't see it. There was bushes
in the area, and whatever it was could have been

(14:21):
behind one of those bushes. Now, one thing I found
out later on is that there are also panthers in
that area. And I found this out by observation. I'd
seen one crossing the road not too far from there,

(14:43):
so it could have been a panther. Some people say
it could have been a deer, but e deer, I'm
pretty used. I'm pretty pretty well equipped it spotting those
in the woods because I see them all the time
at home. St Uh, what it really was, I'm not

(15:06):
one hundred percent certain. Some people say that bigfoot can
cloak like the like the predator in the in the movies.
I don't know if this is true. I think that
they have a natural camouflage with all the hair, kind
of like a gilly suit, you know, a natural gilly suit,
and uh, we just don't see him until they move.

(15:28):
But uh, later on, I had another experience, uh that summer. No,
this was the next summer, I had an experience out
there where uh, there was this uh I'd been camping

(15:50):
in this area, and there was this crow that had
started making noise in the morning, and and and I
was crowing back at it, just trying to you know,
just being silly or whatever, you know, thinking maybe it
would it would fly off if I, uh said a

(16:13):
bad word to it and crow language, you know, I'm
a I'm a goofy person. And then I heard this
other thing that sounded similar to a crow awful little
ways from where I was, and it sounded like it

(16:34):
sounded like something deeper than a crow, but not exactly
like a crow. Very odd and uh. And I looked
over there, and I didn't have my contacts in because
at that time I was wearing contacts. Now just wear
glasses because it's a lot easier to you know, get

(16:54):
ready and see things, you know, quicker in the day.
But this there was this black mass that was huge
black mass that was down on the forest floor, almost
like something was kind of like not necessarily crouched down,

(17:18):
but kind of laying down or reclining back with with
itself on a rock. And that's where some of that
those crow sounds were coming from that was replying to
the crow that I did see up in the tree.
Now that that was very strange to me. I started

(17:44):
to to really question what in the world was going on,
and you know, you'd think, well, why didn't you investigate it? Well,
I decided to leave at that point because I thought
maybe that was a bear or or something like that,
even though bears don't sound like crows. You know, it

(18:05):
was something where I was kind of kind of worried
about maybe something bad was going to happen. So I
left as quick as I could. But I keep coming
back to this area, and the reason why I keep
coming back is because there's strange stuff that happens out there,
and probably let's see here. I've brought out my parents before,

(18:30):
my mom and my dad out there a few times,
and after I, after the crow incident happened, I brought
my dad out there, and this was the first time
in my dad had been out to that place. And
this was a I believe it was a crescent moon

(18:53):
that was happening at the time, clear clear night for
the most part, you know, barely any clouds out and uh,
we decided to camp out in this one little area,
and I found out that the camp spot that we
were at was right across from another camping area where

(19:18):
uh a fella, a local fella had had several bigfoot encounters.
We decided to camp out there, and it was probably
some of the strangest we we had. We heard some
of the strangest noises, probably close to the strangest noises

(19:43):
we've ever heard out there. It almost, uh it's hard
to it'd be almost impossible to imitate. But we thought
maybe it was some sort of wolf or something at first,
and it would make the is it would make these
kind of whooping sounds too. It's like a howl and

(20:06):
a whoop kind of thing. And the acoustics in that
area are very very good, Like it's it's almost like
you're in a concert hall or something. There's you know,
you can hear sound really well. It's uh, you know,
it's great for audio if you're going to be out

(20:27):
in the woods recording. And we heard this thing and
it was coming down this uh, this area where there's
some power lines about a quarter a mile away from
where we were camping, and it came up and around
over this ridge of this mountain that that was on

(20:51):
this one side, it was we had a we had
a mountain to this to the south of us. And
by mountain, I mean really really really big hill. It's
not a it's not like a mountain like you know,
like some of these other things like mount Hood or
or anything like that. But that's about half about half

(21:12):
the size of those places. And we were we were
on a sort of a level, a level area, and
then on the other side of us, it goes it
goes down and connects to connects to the level ground

(21:32):
out out there. So we have in our area probably
a three mile radius of absolutely no people where we're at.
But yeah, we heard this thing making these sounds and everything,
and we we listened and listened and and uh, but

(21:56):
it was just the strangest thing. We have played those
sounds for other people who are big game hunters and
they're not really sure what it is. I have played
those sounds for other people who are zoologists and stuff,
and they said, he, well, it kind of sounds like this,

(22:17):
but it also kind of sounds like that, and nobody
can really identify it because it sounds like a mishmash
of different animals. Well, the next time we went out there.
It was about a month after that. I had both
my mom and my dad out there and we were

(22:40):
camping and we heard the same kind of sound, but
this time we heard something else from the other side
calling back to it. The one that called back to
it had kind of an elk bugle or an elk
whistle kind of thing at the end of the call.
It was the king no idea what it was. Elk

(23:03):
aren't you know too terribly common in that area. There's
you know, a few, but not especially in that area.
There's there's not hardly any any at all. So, uh,
we heard that, and it kind of freaked my mom out.
Uh for me and my dad, you know, we're we've

(23:25):
been doing this for over a year now, and so
it was kind of a kind of a cool thing,
exciting thing, and so yeah, we uh we we heard
that and just wasn't really sure what to make of
it at all. And then, uh, let's see that that

(23:50):
same time that we went camping out there with my mom,
that's whenever we found a we explored some other trails
and found this this tree, big tree, I think it
was a I think it was a pine tree or
an oak. I'm not very good with identifying trees, but

(24:16):
it was. I just remember it was a tall tree,
had all the leaves stripped off of it, and the
there was these branches up up towards the top that
had been and this was these were thick branches. They
had been twisted and bent down two of them. All

(24:38):
the other branches weren't really you know, that looked like
they either been broken off or fell off, but these two,
specifically on this tree, had been twisted and broken down
to where to where it was like it kind of
looked like a stick figure like a person on the a.

(25:01):
I mean, this was this was probably ten feet up
in the air though. That this that these breaks had occurred,
and uh, that was That was a pretty interesting little deal.
There's been other things where we have heard trees fallen
in that forest not too far from us, which you know,
trees fall in the forest anyways. You know, it's not

(25:24):
it's not, you know, too much of a indicator of something,
but given the area, given the sightings, maybe it's something
also in that same area. Uh, there has there has
been other sounds. I've I've heard some wood knocks, well

(25:48):
they call them wood knocks. I think they're actually taking
rocks and banging rocks together. Otherwise would see trees just
you know, beat up real bad. But yeah, if I've
heard some wood knocks out there, and I know that

(26:08):
a lot of the sounds that I hear out there
usually are barred owls and bard owls almost sound like
monkeys sometimes whenever they get really excited. But with that
knowledge and the knowledge of what a fox sounds like too,
that that right there helps with identifying, you know, picking

(26:35):
out possible things that it could be. You know, once
you once you start listening to if you get recordings,
if you go to YouTube and look up recordings of
different wildlife in your area, and you familiar familiarize yourself
with what they sound like, helps so much with identifying

(26:56):
something that's out of place. But there was one time
I was out there camping, and this is where the
area fifty one part really comes in. I was out
there camping and I heard something that sounded like a
gigantic person. I was by myself at this time, like

(27:19):
a gigantic persons going kind of kind of breathe, breathing
real heavy, and it went across the road. I could
I could tell it was that loud. That could have been,
you know, something natural, but I didn't really want to

(27:41):
get out there and find out. I was a little
spook at that time because I was in my tent
and I was like, yeah, I'm not I'm not getting
out there. I did open up the window on my tent,
and of course I didn't see anything because it was nighttime.
But yeah, I went out there, uh at that time,

(28:06):
and I heard that and then I heard also just
this began. We began to hear this, uh, this thing
that I call the hum out there, and it's something
me and my dad have both heard. We both heard
it prior to that experience, but this time, uh, it

(28:32):
got so loud that it was it was almost hard
to hear anything else. And it's like a almost like
a mechanical kind of worrying hum, like a kind of
thing going on. And it's so strange because there's nothing
out there that could really make that sound. And uh,

(28:56):
that was whenever some of the weirder, weirder stuff start
happening out there, is that kind of thing. Oh, so
I had that happen and then let's see here later
on in that I believe in that same year, this

(29:19):
was the second annual Bigfoot conference that they were putting on,
and we decided to go out there, me and my dad,
and we went out to that area. And by this
time I was really used to things in the woods

(29:40):
making weird sounds and stuff. And also whenever you have
someone else out there, someone that you trust, it's a
lot easier to handle. So me and my dad are
out there, and this was probably I think this was
last year chords. Let's see towards I think towards the

(30:06):
middle of the year. Where me and my dad are
sitting out there, we don't have a fire, anything going on.
I usually don't camp with the fire. I feel like
maybe fire makes things stay away, so I like to
camp out there with just darkness or you know, flashlights,

(30:27):
which we had flashlights. We had probably the cheapest, sorryest
flashlights that you could buy at the dollar store with us,
but this was the most This was probably the one
of the most amazing audio captures I've had out there,

(30:48):
which I've captured lots of audio, and uh, it was strange.
It was it was nighttime. I think there was partial
cloud cover if I remember correctly, and it was a
crescent moon, no wind, and about uh. Well, over over

(31:10):
across from us, towards my right, you know which is
which would be south we we uh. Me and my
dad were talking and talking about the universe, talking about God,
stuff like that. He's a he's a former minister and

(31:31):
you know, just having a good discussion. And I had
this feeling like something was going to happen. So I'm like,
hold on, Dad, hold on a second. Wait, wait a second.
And towards the south of us, we hear this whoa sound,
which was so bizarre to me. It sounded like a

(31:54):
gigantic person going whoa. And and I said, whoa, what's
a new sound? I mean, it made it made the
hair stand up. Every single hair I had on my
body felt like it stood up as straight as it could.

(32:17):
I'd never heard anything like that, and I'd never heard
of a bigfoot making it sound like that either. And
I really do believe this was a bigfoot, because, like
I said, I make sure whenever I go out there,
I make sure if I know that there are people
around and in any of the other camping areas, so

(32:41):
before usually before before the last light, I will go
up and down that road checking to see if there
are any other campers, and there was nobody out there.
And like I say, this road is the only road
in or out of that It dead ends close to

(33:02):
where we camp and the only way you could get
up up to that area, up to where we are,
other than the road is if you went off of
some trail near the highway that goes up into there. Well,

(33:25):
here's the thing. If you're doing that at night and
it's pitch black dark, if you're doing that at night,
we're going to hear you. Because the acoustics are really
good in that area. You can hear things moving around
or really well and would see a flashlight because we

(33:45):
were being very observant that night because it had such
a weird feel about it. But yeah, we heard the
shuah who sound coming and we pointed our flashlights over there,
and we didn't see anything because they were really terrible
slashlights that couldn't hardly light up anything. You know, they

(34:07):
could probably they could probably light up something about you know,
fifty feet away pretty well, but you know, this was
way farther out in there. This was probably it's not
probably sounded like accurred. Probably I'd like to say two
hundred feet away from where we were, you know, it was.

(34:27):
It was a little ways off, but we got the
audio recording. It's great audio. And then after after me
and my dad just sat out there for a while,
just waiting, waiting and waiting, waiting, seeing if there was

(34:48):
anything else that was going to make any kind of sound.
And yeah, we we sat out there and we didn't
hear any thing for the longest time. It was. It
was I think it was like fifty three minutes after
that sound happened, because I was reviewing the audio. Later on,

(35:13):
we hear something moving in the woods on the opposite
side of where that sound came from, So it was
on the that was on the north side, that was
towards the mountain is where that that was. So me
and my dad got our flashlights, went out there and

(35:40):
was looking around. We could hear this thing stopping like
and when I say stopping, I don't really mean stopping,
I mean stepping. You know. It was it was making
a step. It would, you know, one step, the other step.
You know. It didn't sound like something on four legs.
It didn't sound like a rodent or squirrel or anything.

(36:02):
If it were any kind of armadillo or or raccoon,
or or deer or something. We probably would have spot that.
I've seen those out there in the same area where
we where we heard this stepping before, because it's that
there's a there's a lot of there's acorn trees and

(36:25):
things like that out there, things for animals to munch on.
But yeah, we we rent out there. There's this little
trail that connects to our camp spot that goes out
into the woods, and we went on along that trail
and we keep hearing this thing moving and we don't
see it. And uh, there there's bushes on either side,

(36:49):
kind of like briar bushes. They're thorny, they're kind of
kind of thick, uh, and they're about oh, i'd say
a belly button height to wear to us. And also
a little small little baby trees out there that are
about as tall as a person, not real thick. This

(37:14):
whole area is covered with pine trees and acorns and
all of really huge trees and a lot of leafletter on,
you know, a lot of kind of stuff. So it
was whatever this thing was was stepping away from us,

(37:37):
and at one point my flashlight landed on him and
he was I would like to say he was about
twenty feet away from him. And he wasn't a bear,
that's for sure, because he was about six and a

(38:00):
half to seven foot tall, dark brown, really kind of
kind of greasy hair, oily hair, like a like a
person who hasn't showered in a long time. You know
how oil builds up in your hair. He had that
kind of look to him. But this was the back

(38:22):
of him. I saw from about the middle of his
back up you know, above his head was about the
section that I was able to catch, and he was
His hair was a dark brown color, and his head
was round, which I thought was interesting because I'd always

(38:45):
heard of these things having cone like heads or pointy heads,
but this one his head was round. Now, it could
be that he did have more of a point to
his head, but he was kind of hunched over a
little bit and had his head down some. But he
was walking away from us. He was near a tree

(39:08):
when he whenever I saw him. But he had a
really wide back, wide, muscular back. I could clearly see
his back, his forearms in the back of his head,
and I mean his back must have been about i'd
say four foot wide or something. I mean, it was huge.

(39:35):
I'd never seen something, you know, with that kind of
back to them. Didn't smell any smells, and I've never
smelt any kind of foul odors out there. Whenever I've
encountered activity, I do encounter urine from I'm guessing deer

(40:02):
and other things out there in the woods. Sometimes I
have a pretty good sense of smell. I've also want
to smell diesel out there, just you know, in the
middle of the woods where there wouldn't be any kind
of diesel or there's no real trail for even a
mountain bike or anything strange things. Anyways, Yeah, this guy,

(40:26):
he didn't have any smell about him or anything. And
I saw him for about four or five seconds before
I decided, Okay, I need to pull out my phone
and try to record this guy. You know, this is amazing.
This is I never thought i'd see a big foot

(40:48):
out there, even though I've you know, heard all kinds
of stuff. I've seen evidence signs of, you know, that
we attribute to bigfoot. And so I pulled out my
phone and I'm trying, I'm fumbling with it, trying to
try and trying to open up the camera app while

(41:12):
I'm you know, I'm just almost panicking you know, I
have all this adrenaline pumping through me. I'm trying to,
you know, get that camera app open, and by that time,
by the time I actually got it open, he had
already disappeared. I could still hear him moving around. I
could still hear his footsteps out there, and with each

(41:35):
footstep he covered about four feet, so you know, I'm
I'm still hearing this guy. I don't know how he
evaded me finding him again. It could just be because
he had moved so far ahead that our flashlights just

(41:59):
couldn't reach that far, because like I say, they were
pretty cheap flashlights. But whenever I saw him, I could
see him very clearly. I could see the sheen of
that oiliness of the hair, you know, glinting off of there.
So I mean I was able to get a very
good look at him, and nothing was on the camera.

(42:22):
My dad never got to see him though he was
looking in the opposite direction or where I was, and
he has he has way worse vision than I have,
especially whenever it comes to tonight vision. So you know,
I it was kind of funny because at one point

(42:46):
I thought, you know, I got to do something to
see if I can get this thing to to come
back around or to you know, interact or something. And
I because I can still hear his steps and he's
he's pretty far out there. And I called out to
him and I said, hey, we got some food back
at camp. You know, you can come get some if

(43:07):
you want. And I heard a pause in the steps,
you know, paused a couple of seconds, and then it
continued on. So maybe maybe he thought about it, I
don't know. And on our way back, because we were
into the woods, we were close to about an eighth

(43:28):
of a mile into the woods. Whenever we started to whenever,
we kind of gave up and headed back. And at
that time, because I had a I had something recording.
I had a cell phone recording video actually back at

(43:50):
camp the whole entire time. But you can you can
see on there whenever we turned back and started to
head back to camp, whoop, sound that happened. And it
was real close to the camp. Now, we didn't hear

(44:11):
this whenever we were going going back towards camp. And
I'm thinking because possibly because of the crunch of the
leaves and everything, and me and my dad kind of
you know, talking back and forth about what what I
saw on all that on the way back, you know.
And also I think that that whoop was was a
real quiet whoop, but it was real close to the camera,

(44:35):
so it was kind of telling the others that were
probably there near the camp, near the camp, you know,
let's head out, let's you know, get out of here,
because they're coming back to camp. That's what I assume
it is. That's what I assume most of the whoops are.
I assume most of the whoops are signals to other

(44:56):
bigfoot that there's people nearby to or to you know,
be careful because you know, make yourselves, you know, not
seen because there's there's somebody coming by. Now as to
why I could not see that bigfoot once once I

(45:20):
got the camera back up, which is it's such an
annoying thing too, whenever you have an encounter and you
can't capture it on camera or it comes out blurry
or something like that, I don't know. I don't know
if it's that thing where they cloak. I'm not a
big believer in that at all. You know, I'm open

(45:40):
to the possibility of that kind of thing happening to
the paranormal, but I don't think they do I think
it's just we had bad flashlights and once I lost
track of them. You know, they know that area really well,
so I wasn't able to capture them. I've I've set

(46:03):
up trail cams out in that area and have never
caught anything other than squirrels and deer out there, not
even foxes, which I've heard foxes out there now say that.
But the next uh expedition I did out there, the

(46:23):
next investigation I did, I UH me and my dad
had been going down this trail. It's that same trail
where we'd had the siding, and there is some more
interesting tree structure kind of things out there, lots of

(46:46):
twists and brakes, and there's there's also some some parts
where a tree has a kind of a young tree
has been bent over, has been bent and almost woven
into another tree. Now that could be something natural, perhaps

(47:07):
I don't know what would make that, but it was
almost like a cattle gate. In fact, that's what I
call this one place out there, as I call it
the cattle gate. And you've got to get past that
to get up moving towards the ridge or towards the
top of the mountain, at least on this one trail

(47:28):
that's that isn't really a trail as far as a
nactual you know map trail, it's it's a trail that's
other animals and stuff use I'm guessing to go up there.
So on the way to that place, though, there is

(47:49):
a there's a little creek that you got across, and
on the left there is a little there was this
little cleared out place in a tree stump, and so
I thought, hey, you know, I'd met Darryl Adams before
and he was telling me about how he uses was

(48:12):
using peanut butter and stuff to that he was putting
on trees and everything to try and collect the stuff.
So I thought, you know, I'll try that too. So
I had I had a jar of peanut butter, and
I had some marshmallows, and I put the peanut butter
and marshmallows all over this tree stump, and I put

(48:34):
a I put a trail cam near that area, as
well as an audio recorder, a cheap one, thankfully, and
I had that thing going and I came back later

(48:56):
and all of the peanut butter, every trace of peanut
butter that was out there, completely gone, as well as
my audio recorder, but my trail came was still there
and I thought, oh my gosh, I caught the motherlougue
you know, whatever this was. It completely just decimated this

(49:19):
tree stump and got all the peanut butter as well
as my audio recorder. I must have something on camera.
Well I did. I did have something on camera. I
had two huge black bears. These are big guys, and
you could see them licking the inside of this peanut

(49:41):
butter canister that I had there. But the thing is
what was really strange about that, though, was the tree
stump was already decimated. I would have thought that would
have been caught on camera because on that trail cam

(50:01):
I saw other bits of footage of a year and
a squirrel and even a bug flying past, and through
all that the tree stump was still there. You know,
there wasn't anything you know, going on with it. But
the next bit of footage is the daytime and the

(50:23):
tree stumps completely just obliterated, no marshmallows around the area,
and there's just a bear looking the inside of a
peanut butter. Cancer. Now, I would have thought that that
would have you know, that tree stump getting torn apart
would have been caught on camera, but it didn't am

(50:43):
I saying that it was a bigfoot. I don't know.
I know that, you know, I would like to think
that a bigfoot came along and did that, and then
the bear came along later, But you know, that's a
pretty far leap in any kind of judgment. That's interesting, though,

(51:05):
to say the least interesting experiment. And there was another
time I was out in that same area and had
something really weird going on. I was doing a live
stream on Facebook of that area and other people were

(51:26):
seeing what I was seeing. They could hear the sounds
I usually hear that I attribute to bigfoot out there,
and they were seeing these weird lights white red, blue
kind of firefly looking the lights that were flying around
in the area, which which was really strange. I've never

(51:46):
seen blue or red fireflies. And they were all going
down that trail where we had the big foot sighting
me and my dad. I've also heard other things like
some wood knock, but sounded more like rocks clashing down
that trail, and I went down there by myself and

(52:11):
I would hear the clacking. I would go down there
and then I'd hear it clacking some more like somebody
taking rocks and just smashing them together. And it kept
going further and further, deeper and deeper into the woods,
and at one point I was like, I actually told it, hey,

(52:31):
whatever you are, I'm not going past this point because
there's bears out here and I don't want to get
eaten up. But I've grown a lot braver through this
whole experience, really where I'm not easily rattled. Also in

(52:52):
this same area, a friend of mine, Gabriel Graciano, he's
from Argentina. He's a big foot enthusiast, and I took
him out there to this place. He had this box
that had all this all these infrared flood lights and
UH cameras and everything that he had. He had a

(53:14):
whole setup where we would be able to have these
infrared flood lights spreading through the area and catch things
on camera and stuff. He was he was pretty scared
the whole time, understandable he's he's never done this before.
And and we we did a stake out there. It

(53:40):
was dead quiet, nothing at all going on, nothing going
on on the cameras either. We were monitoring those from
inside his truck. He had blinders up inside of inside
of his truck, and so you know, you couldn't see
light if you were outside the truck, you couldn't see
light coming out, and we couldn't We couldn't see any
thing on there. But on the way back we decided

(54:07):
to actually use his setup. He had to drive down
the road just just by using those cameras and infrared lights,
not looking out the window, not using the lights on
the car or anything, but just the floodlights and the cameras,
which was pretty pretty interesting, pretty spooky too. But we

(54:30):
got all the way down to the end of the road,
pulled off to an area by the highway, and put
took apart the whole system. And as we were coming
up to across roads that was a crossroad of these
two highways that's real close to where I go, we

(54:54):
saw this, these twinkling amber lights coming up barely clearing
the tree top and whatever this was was about the
width of the road, and at first we thought it
was a law enforcement helicopter looking for drug dealers, since
what we were doing, you know, if you were used

(55:16):
in infrared or you know, thermal imaging to look to
try and catch drug dealers out in the woods or
something what we were doing would look pretty pretty suspicious,
but these twinkling amber lights were in a circle all
around whatever this was. We saw it pretty much from

(55:37):
a side profile since it was so low to the ground,
and then this one light in the middle of it
almost looked like a spotlight that shone, but it began
to light up the whole entire body of this thing,
and it was basically a flying saucer shape and whenever

(56:01):
after the whole thing lit up, it just went oof
and it's it's just gone blinked out of existence. Now
that sounds pretty far fetched, but I wasn't the only
one that saw it, neither was my friend. Come to
find out, there was another group of bigfoot researchers investigators
in that area. They had seen the exact same thing

(56:23):
in the same place, but that's seen in several hours before,
which means that while me and my friend were out there,
we had this thing around us the entire time, and
that was spooky right there at the time. He lived

(56:43):
in Dallas, and it was probably around three am by
the time that wentever, we'd seen this thing, and he
drove back to Tallaheena, where I had left my vehicle
over there at the Bigfoot Museum because I was in
a camp over there. We're at Oklahoma's Area fifty one,

(57:04):
like I usually do, and I did. I went, I
drove back there, and I was nervous the entire time,
and I didn't get much sleep because I was that
that was a spooky thing. Seeing something like that was
very very spooky, you know, because now you got now
you got aliens in the mix with all the Bigfoot

(57:25):
and all the other weird stuff going on there. It's like,
you know, just so so so strange. But uh, yeah,
I camped and I made it through that night just fine.
But I texted my my friend at the Bigfoot Museum
about the UFO that me and me and uh and

(57:49):
him had seen, and she said, well, that's funny because
that same night, these other guys with the with this
other Bigfoot group saw the exact same thing, and I
was I was amazed, uh that anybody else had caught that.

(58:10):
But uh, they they've talked about it a little bit.
They're they shy away from UFO stuff. They they had
a podcast and they talked about it on their podcast
at one time, Southern Bigfoot Alliance, that's who they are.
But they have some of the best tracks, best bigfoot

(58:33):
tracks you'll ever see. Amazing, and I'd never known these
guys until then. Uh. That's that's whenever I pretty much
learned about you know them, and kind of hooked up
with them and got to be buddies with them. But
that's that's not all. Uh. In October of of last year, Uh,

(59:00):
I had another really interesting thing happened. I went to
the Hanobi Bigfoot Festival in Hanobi, Oklahoma, and me and
my friend Brian Terrell and Eric Schrader from Red Dirt
Cryptid's investigations were out at a place that was very

(59:22):
was very well known. It's actually if you've ever heard
of the legend about why uh uh that county Laflora
County is called Flora County, the Bigfoot legend of it.

(59:42):
This area that me and my friend Brian and uh
and Eric had the encounter we had it, it's the
place where that legend comes from. So we were out
there and there during the whole th us. The whole time,
I didn't hardly have any kind of encounters or or

(01:00:07):
record any sounds or anything. But very last night we
all heard something of we heard something coming across this
this river, these kind of whoop uh sort of moany
halle whoop calls from what seemed like maybe four different

(01:00:27):
beings came across. They made these calls, and they came
across the river, we're assuming, came up this ridge that
we were camped on, and about halfway between there and
the river, they made four or they made some other
whoop calls, and that you could tell that they were

(01:00:49):
more spread out, and uh, it didn't sound like any
any normal animal or anything any any local animal. So
it was it was very strange. And then at about
six thirty in the morning, it was still dark. I
I was packing up to leave to go to work,

(01:01:10):
and I hear a bunch of coyotes on this ridge
and they're on a mountain that my friend thinks that
some bigfoots like to hang out at. And so I
had my recorder going the entire time, all through the night,
and so I recorded it, and you hear these coyotes

(01:01:32):
yipping and yepping, and then about a little bit later,
you hear this this thing making this sort of ohio
how kind of sound like whoo, and these kyotes were
yipping and yepping away. They were scared to death. You

(01:01:54):
could hear, you know, sitting there in the actual area.
You could hear how they were. They were high tilling
it out of there. They they were, they were just
they they knew what was going on. They didn't want
to have any anything to do with it. And I
think basically the Bigfoot was scaring them away from wherever

(01:02:14):
it is that they like to stay at. But that
was that's probably that's that's the best evidence I have
and the the last best encounter concerning any of this
stuff that I've had. And uh, yeah, I mean it's

(01:02:36):
it's been it's been amazing. I've had so much fun
doing this stuff too, and it's really helped me, helped
me become a more fearless person really whenever it comes
to these sorts of things, because I go in there,
I don't have camouflage on. I'm usually wearing like a
Hawaiian shirt. I'm not armed, because I feel like the

(01:02:58):
less threatening I the more likely these things are going
to come out and interact with me. If they know
that I'm not going to shoot them, you know, if
I'm not going to hurt them, or if I'm out
there to destroy the area, that they're in. But at
the same time, I'm thinking maybe that hinders me from
getting more of a confrontational encounter with them, which would

(01:03:22):
be better for filming and recording and stuff. But I've
had great luck with Oklahoma and here. Pretty soon I'm
going to be doing more investigations around the Eureka Springs area.
There's one lady that has had footprints and her adult

(01:03:42):
son has seen a bigfoot just two weeks ago, not
too far from where I work, probably about ten miles away.
So I'm still still doing this investigate, investigating, and it's
something I'll just probably be doing the rest of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
It sure does make you wonder what's next after all
these experiences you've had. Holy Cow, before we get out
of here, Jimmy, how can the listeners check out your
live streams on Facebook? What's the best way for them
to do that?

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Well, I don't do live streams anymore on Facebook, mostly
because the places I go to have, you know, there's
no way to really connect to the internet because they
are usually pretty remote. It's just that one time I
was able to get a pretty good connection at that
one place. But I have a TikTok and a YouTube

(01:04:42):
both of those, if you type in the AT symbol
and then Jimmy's cryptid quest, that's where I'm at on
TikTok and it's where I'm out on YouTube. And you've
got to make sure the AT symbols on both.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Of those for everyone listening, so that you know, I'll
put links in the description for tonight's show. That'll make
it really easy for you to just be able to
click on the links and visit Jimmy's live streams that way.
But having said that, Jimmy sounds like you've got it
all worked out. I mean, to have half as many
experiences as you've had, you have to have this at

(01:05:19):
least fairly well worked out. I'm awfully impressed. I really am.
Thank you well, you're welcome, and I can only imagine
the thoughts going through their heads when they see the
Hawaiian shirts.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Yeah. Also, I would there's a friend of mine, her
name's Opal, and she she listens to all of your
all of your podcasts, so i'd like i'd just like
to say, hey, Ople, I'm glad you tuned in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Well, let me join you. Thanks so much for listening. Ople,
I'm glad you'll like the show. But having said that,
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing
all these experiences with this Jimmy. I really appreciate it,
and if I can never help you out in the future,
please let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I sure well, thank you for having me. I've enjoyed this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Oh you know you're welcome. It's been fun.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Having said that, thanks again so much and have a
great night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio with
Vic Kundiff. If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would
like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot eyewitness dot com and submit a report. We'd
love to hear from you. Thanks for listening, have a
great night.
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