The Cabin - Bigfoot Eyewitness Episode 502

Tonight’s guest, Debbie Robinson, had the Sasquatch-related experiences she’s going to talk about on tonight’s show while she was staying at a remote cabin, in the Hocking Hills, of Ohio. Before she went to the cabin, to celebrate her birthday, her family and friends knew Debbie had always wanted to go to the Hocking Hills and rent a cabin. She had heard so much about the beautiful scenery in the Hocking Hills and all the caves there so, for the longest time, she wanted to go take it all in. To celebrate her birthday in 2020, which was and is on October 31st, her family booked a cabin there that they all could go stay in, Halloween weekend that year, to celebrate Debbie’s birthday that year. While it’s true that the Hocking Hills are known to have beautiful scenery, caves, and a lot of other great things to offer, they’re also known to have a healthy population of Sasquatch living in them. Unfortunately, that’s a lesson Debbie, her children, and 6 other people, were about to learn, the hard way.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hi. My name is Debbie Robinson. I'm a mother of
four children. I live I guess you want to say,
like the east side of Cleveland. I live like over
like east Lake, up a high up as north up
to Lake area as you can go. And well, it

(00:36):
all started with my birthday Halloween and I had turned
fifty and no one like really did anything. And I
always was joking around that, you know, no one celebrated
my fiftieth. So the following year, in twenty twenty, me
my son's girlfriends, so was three of us. Uh, we're

(01:01):
with They took me. We were sitting at a winery.
It was the first time I got to go to
a winery and you know, we're just having a good
time and they, you know, they they always know. Everybody
knows that I've always wanted to go to Hocking Hills
and runt A Cabin. It's you know, I've always seen
how beautiful it is, the scenery. You know, it's known
for its caves and things like that, and I've always

(01:22):
wanted to do that. And they just started joking around
bringing it up and said, since we didn't celebrate your
fiftieth last year, why don't we get a cabin? And
I was like, are you serious? You know, so we're
all joking around, and we started looking up cabins. And
when we got back to the house with everybody else
because I lived with all four of my kids at

(01:43):
that time, and we were all like, you know, just
at the house hanging out, and you know, they we
brought up to everybody else about the cabin and my
one son's girlfriend said, I have the deposit right now,
I'll book it. So we found a cabin, we booked it.
They booked it, and this was like September, so we

(02:05):
didn't have long because it was actually they booked it
for Halloween, so we were we arrived at this cabin. Uh,
it was October twenty ninth on a Thursday, and we
were staying till Sunday. So we arrived on Thursday. It

(02:29):
was about four o'clock. It was it was uh when
we you know, to find the find it, you have
to you go down like this one road in the woods,
you know, and then you go the driveway was like
just like a one way and it was like and
it went up like you're going up the hill like

(02:50):
a mountain kind of thing. And we were our cabin
was way at the top of that by itself and
just all by its lonesome, lonesome up there in the woods.
And the road itself was creepy, I remember that. And
so we get up there, beautiful cabin. We're all surrounded
by woods. And I'm gonna describe the cabin because it

(03:16):
helps the situation of you know, so when you pull
in and you got the left side of the cabin,
there's it goes out, there's a there's a top deck,
it kind of is up higher, and then you got
the lower ground level and on that side there's it
goes you have a little bit of grass and it
goes down a ravine, so you go kind of deep

(03:38):
down into a ravine. On that side, you come around
to the back of the cabin and there's some open
grass area and it's just you know, the back is
just you know, woods. It goes on and on and on,
and then same thing on the right. It just goes
on and on and on. And there's you know, some
grass area, you know, and but it's all woods around

(03:59):
you round it. And so when you go in the cabin,
the first thing I remember is there's this one room
that was gonna be my room because it had a
jacuzzi tub in it and because it was my birthday,
but it was you know, it had like two doors
in that room. It was it was like the one

(04:21):
door was right next to my bed and it went
right out to the front, and which was a little creepy.
And then you go in the bathroom in the room
and there was another door and it opened and it
was like a cellar looking thing that was locked with
another little building attached. It went outside, and I was like, okay,
this is a little creepy for me being by myself.

(04:42):
And then I the next thing I noticed is the
living room, a dining room, and kitchen is all open
together and it's all windows and there's no curtains. So
that was the first thing I noticed, you know, in
you know, no curtains, and that's all level with the
top deck. So when you go out the door off

(05:03):
the kitchen, you're gonna go out on the top deck
and looks you look down over and you could see
the hot tub down at the bottom and it's all
facing the ravine side, so you know, nothing. Thursday, I
was decorating the cabin for Halloween, and everybody's already jumping
in the you know, hot tub outside and stuff like that,

(05:25):
and everybody's having a good time and nothing out ordinary
at all. Everybody's getting you know, everybody's playing jokes, you know,
you know, scaring each other and things like that and
just being goofy. So Friday comes, we all wake up
and we all kind of had like a late breakfast,
and everybody have ten people, so there was ten of us.

(05:48):
I forgot to tell you that. So there's ten of us,
and three of my four children were there, and then
their girlfriend, their girlfriends and my girl, my daughter's boy
friend and her best friend. So we were all making breakfast.
So you can imagine the smoke and the you know,

(06:10):
everything from the bacon and the whole thing, like we
were all cooking the same thing, lots of bacon eggs.
The first time I went outside to get into the
hot tub was after breakfast, so it's probably like noon
or so, and I remember being really cold outside. I
think it was only in the twenties. I went got

(06:32):
in the hot tub, and I remember this horrible smell
and we all couldn't figure out where the smell was
coming from because we did not smell it the night before,
and I don't know if we had well water. I
didn't know if it was because it had rained the
night before. Was it the mud? I just we just

(06:52):
couldn't figure it out. So that was the one thing
out of the ordinary on Friday, was that smell was
coming and going throughout the day. And I remember getting
a little upset about it because you know, they paid
a lot of money for this cabin, and you know,
I thought, well, now we got to smell this the
whole time we're there, because it was pretty bad. And

(07:18):
then you know, they some people would take walks in
the woods come back, you know, and just other people
would do their own thing. So Friday evening, there was
a bunch of us down in the bottom level where
the game room was and stuff, and we were watching,
you know, like scary movies. Because after midnight on Friday,

(07:42):
where it's considered Saturday, that was Halloween. So it was
Halloween after midnight, so and so after midnight it was Halloween,
but we were, you know, downstairs, watching scary movies, some
of us and then my son's best friend and his
girl friend were out on that top deck by themselves

(08:05):
for a while and we had no idea, but things
were going on out there, and they thought it was
us that kept messing with them because he's a big prankster,
so he thought everybody was trying to get him back
for little things he had done throughout the day and stuff,
and we didn't know. So we all decided we were

(08:30):
all done with the movies. We were going to bed.
So I went to that door and I opened the
top deck door and I said good night to them too,
and they were the only two left and they said
good night. So then I went upstairs with my daughter's
best friend, t Najah because I was creeped out the
night before in that room downstairs by myself, so I switched.

(08:53):
So I just got into bed and not, I swear,
not a couple minutes, the door I'm banging open and
there was Matt standing there. He's kind of a tall,
big guy and he's stand in there with this look
on his face and he's like, We're like, what's the matter,
And he's like who's messing with us? And I said,

(09:14):
what do you mean? You know, I go everybody's in bed,
and he's like, where's Colin. I said, well, Colin was
the first one that went to bed. That's my son,
that's his best friend. I said, he was the first
one that went to bed a while ago. So when
he realized that it was none of us, his face
expression was just like confused. So me and Tonaijah jumped

(09:35):
up and we said, you know, let's go. So we
us three went back downstairs and we went into the
kitchen area and Matt's girlfriend was like looking out the window.
She had her hand up to the glass and she's
looking out the window. And I approached the picnic table,
which was the dining room table in the kitchen, and

(09:55):
I looked out onto the top deck and both stairwells
were blocked off by patio chairs. And I looked at
him and I said, what you know, what is happening?
You know what you know? And he's like, I don't know.
They were both shooking up, and they said they've been
messed with for their hour, hours or hour, I don't
know how long it was, but they things just all

(10:17):
the noises things were being thrown towards them coming out,
you know, things were he said. One time the tree
got shook or something and all the birds flew out,
and just all the stuff that was going on all
around them down coming from the ravine and stuff. And
you know, a couple of times he would jump around

(10:38):
the corner of the front of the cabin, thinking it
was one of us coming or something was messing around,
he said. And then he said, the big there was
a big, loud noise right next to them, but right
down by the hot tub, and that's what made him
throw the things on the stairs. He thought he knew
something was there, and he ran into the cabin. So

(10:58):
we're all just sitting there, not knowing what in the
what was happening outside. So we were us four, We're
just we didn't know. So we're just sitting there quietly.
And I remember it being a full moon and now
it was Halloween, and it was a full moon that night,
so it lit up the back of the cabin where
I told the little grass area was, and so we're

(11:23):
just listening. I didn't know what we were listening for.
And I said, let's turn off all the lights in
the cabin. Because we had some glares on the window,
and I said, let's I want to be able to
see better myself. So they turned off, and I remember
they were having a as soon as they got that
oven light, little oven light turned off and it turned

(11:45):
completely dark in the cabin. I heard Matt's girlfriend say,
like a couple of minutes later, there it is. And
I looked out the window through the one window to
the left, and I see this black thing coming out
of the ravine and it was low to the ground
and it came out. It was coming out of the
ravine and you could see it. So I ran over

(12:09):
to the kitchen window, which was right above the sink,
to get a better look. And then Matt Tonijah followed me,
and the girl stayed there and us three were standing
at the kitchen window looking straight at this thing like
I had a perfect shot of it. And as I'm
looking at it, it's then it decided to stand straight up.

(12:31):
So I am standing there watching this stand up, in
which in my mind it was like a slow motion
and it just kept going and it just stood up.
And I remember staring at this thing and it was huge,
the tallness, the shoulder span, it was I think I

(12:56):
was in shock at that moment because it was down
and then it was up, and then it was just there.
And I hear Matt like jumping around behind me, you
see that thing? And then I heard Tnaja and she
was I mean, she's a skeptic on everything when it
comes to stuff, but she's like I could hear her say,
do you see the shoulders on that thing? So then

(13:18):
I knew they were saying what I was saying. And
then the next biggest thing that I remember is just
so calmly, just like like it's done it every day,
No big deal. He just started to walk right straight
for the window. He just started coming straight for us,
just walking just as calm as can be, taking those

(13:39):
steps like me and you would. And he just started
to walk right towards this like a human, no big deal.
And I remember seeing the arms swing, swinging, and I
remember those fingers being below the knee. And when he
started to walk right for me, that's when I screamed,
he's coming for the cabin. And I turned and I

(14:02):
started to run, and I hear Matt and Tanaija saying
he went back down on like to the ground or
on all fours or whatever they said and went back
down the ravine. Now I didn't care that he went
back down. I was relieved, but I just kept going.
And I woke up everybody in the cabin, and everybody

(14:26):
got up, and we all ended up crowded together out
on that top deck and it was like a It
was so loud everywhere. It was just I remember all
this noise. We all heard, all this noise, trees breaking,
all kinds of noise. I do remember hearing what sounded

(14:52):
like a woman screaming coming out of the ravine. I
do remember hearing there was this long, all sound that
lasted for a while, like it just it was like
one big breath. And when it was done, me and
my daughter looked at each other and said, that sounds
like from the Finding big Foot show. We recognized that,

(15:13):
both of us did. And then, which now we know
is what's called the Ohio how And then the other
biggest thing that stuck out to me was the chatter.
And my kids and stuff to this day make fun
of that sound. And it sounded like cave men talking,

(15:35):
but you couldn't understand a word that they were saying.
It was just weird sounding, and you couldn't understand a
word of it. It was just weird, and it was like,
just that's what I reminded me of, like you would
think back in the day of cave men trying to
talk to each other. And then so as we're hearing

(15:59):
all of this, I don't know who noticed, but somebody
noticed that there was sounds coming from now the front
of the cabin. So we all made our way down
into the driveway. And now we're in front of the
cabin on the gravel in the driveway, and we're looking
to the left and there's like this little little island

(16:22):
that they had made, and it's not that far of
a step away from the woodline, and you could see
a shadow of something going that went back and forth
to that island to the woodline, and you could hear
the tree breaks, you can hear all this noise going
on in that direction as the same time you're still
hearing everything behind us in the ravine. So then at

(16:43):
that point we knew we had more than one for sure.
So we're all out there, it's twenty degrees, all bundled together.
So after all this was going on, because this happened
about three four in the morning, so we didn't have
much longer till daylight. So we all made our way

(17:03):
back into the cabin. A couple of them went and
laid down there was most of us was not laying down.
I didn't. I was I didn't know what to do
with that, knowing that all that was still out there.
And so my one son, he's about six to two,
and he was He's like, I'm waiting for that daylight

(17:25):
to happen, and I'm out there, and you know, we're
gonna go look and see where he come out, and
I want you to see me scrouse the window and
all this stuff, because at this point we were going
through every scenario that is imaginable of what that was.
And we ruled out a human immediately because the ravine,
there's no way a human's coming out on all fours

(17:45):
or that load of the ground. And then you're gonna
stand straight up because as big as he was, you'd
have to be on stilt, some big stilts. And how
you're gonna put on a stilt when you're load to
the ground coming out of a No, I would have
saw you sitting there trying to put him on, Like
we already ruled that out like it was. It wasn't human,

(18:07):
and he was just just that big. He was so big,
and the shoulder span was like you take a big
man and put him on each side of his shoulder
like it was. He was big. And so my son
goes out there and he's down there, and him and
my daughter and her friends and Isiah the one who

(18:31):
saw it with me, as they went down there, and
it wasn't actually as far away as I thought it
was when the sunlight came up, and he looked like
a little peanut in the window, like he didn't even
compare to this thing. So they saw, we saw down
there where how thick the brush was at the time

(18:52):
where he had come out, It was like a circle
kind of thing where you would crawl out and then
you can stand and same going in. If you went in,
you could crawl in, but as you get to a
certain distance then you're able to stink. You have the
room to stand up. So we understood then why he
come out the way he did out of the ravine,

(19:13):
and that was a steep ravine. You walk a little ways,
but it goes kind of straight down. And so a
little bit later my other son gets up from his
little nap and he decides to go check out the
front of the cabin to the left where all that
noise was. And he was over there and he saw

(19:34):
some like disruption in the leaves by the little bedding
thing I told you about the little island, and he
moved the leaves out of the way, and sure enough
there was this huge footprint, I mean huge. So he
took a picture, came and showed it to me. I

(19:56):
almost fell over. So we all run out there and
we all see it, and you know, take pictures with
the shoe next to it and stuff like that. And yeah.
So that that is the actual sighting that changed my
life from that night forward and the after all that happened,

(20:20):
and Saturday during the day and everything was going on.
The smell was gone. It was peaceful. Me and my
daughter stayed up that Saturday night as well, till like
four in the morning. I couldn't after that, and I
didn't know if they were coming back or and you
could hear a pin drop. It was just as peaceful

(20:40):
as can be. They were gone, like you could feel
the difference. There was no smell, there was no sounds, nothing.
And we got up here on Sunday nothing and then
we when we left, it was it was only to
Friday during the day with the smell, and then everything
that happened that evening and through the night, and so

(21:04):
I didn't know what to do with all that. When
I left, I was not of the right mind. I
just couldn't believe it. And so when I got home,
I the only thing I knew on social media that
had anything to do with the Bigfoot was the Finding

(21:25):
Bigfoot show that had that me and my daughter had watched,
and so I reached on Facebook. I said, well, I'm
just gonna that's the only thing I know what to do.
So I threw a message towards Matt Moneymaker, and Cliff
didn't think that I was even doing it right or whatever.
And I got this message back from Matt Moneymaker and
I wasn't sure if it was real, and I asked

(21:47):
my daughter. I says, she says it was a blue
check mark. I said, I think it's real. So we
were out to eat at that point. So when I
got home, I remember the phone ringing, my phone ringing,
and it was said California. My daughter's like, pick it up.
I said, why I answer that stuff? She's like, no,
just in case. So I answered it and there was
Matt Moneymaker on my phone and I recognized his voice immediately,

(22:10):
so he called me back. We were Google Earth and
everything the exactly where it was. I was showing him
on Google Earth and I went through everything and he
said that he just got back from there a week
and a half earlier. He said, I just got back

(22:31):
from that area a week and half earlier from a sighting.
He goes, and it was only a mile from your cabin.
So that's that really, you know. And he was all
excited about the sighting and because he had just went
to the same area, and so he was answering some
of my questions. You know, I'm like, well, you know,

(22:54):
you know, he was walking towards the cabin and he said, well, yeah,
because you turn the lights off, he said. And I said, well, well,
what what was he doing? And he's like, well, he
was coming. They were coming to look in the windows.
They're curious. I said, well, I don't know what's scarier
knowing that they're looking in your windows when you're not.
You don't know or you do know. And so that's

(23:18):
when that all started. And then I went on the
he put my sighting on the b FRO website and
then a few months later I think it was I
got contacted to be on a show These Woods are Haunted.
So I went on that and me Matt tonight is
since we're the ones that actually seen it, we were

(23:39):
the ones on the show, and so I was on that.
Ever since that night happened, I was joining all this
bigfoot groups, all this investigation I started to do on
my own, even investigating history because I was never a
history buff, but now I turned into one because in

(24:02):
my mind, you're not supposed to see this come out
of the woods. This isn't reality. You're not you know,
as my phrase is, it was like King Kong coming
out of the woods. And then we're not not supposed
to be real, so you know, wait a minute here,
you know that, what are we really living here with?
You know? I know what I saw. So they changed

(24:23):
everything for me. So then I really wanted to go
to Saltfork Park. That was one of my goals when
I started looking into everything, and it was an hour
and a half closer to me than Hocking Hills, And
we got lucky. A couple of years ago, maybe three

(24:44):
years ago. Now, we got invited to one of the
group camps from a big Foot group, and we've been
going ever since. We try to go they have the
big Foot group opens in April and goes to like October,
and we try to go twice a month if we can.
So we've definitely had We've had things happen there from

(25:12):
like now, I can tell you if I think ones
around in the vicinity, if I think that's one or not.
Now I know and not. I could just feel it
for one, but I could tell when certain sounds. We've had,
you know, a few things happen at so Fork. I've
had things, you know, I've seen footprinted Mohican area. I've

(25:35):
seen I've been to West Virginia Festival and we had
some activity at our campground that the one night. And
so I've been experiencing things and I'm trying to get
out more and more different areas. I like going to
new ones. Am I still scared? Yes, I've been working
on that. It got to in the beginning I would go,

(25:58):
but if I thought something was close, I panic and
want to run. I don't do that as much because
at the cabin again, that one alone could have took
all of us out in the cabin by himself, and
he didn't he turned around went back down when he
heard me let alone, having several around us. All the

(26:26):
things that we've experienced at like Salththork Park. Again nothing harmful.
It's you know, I think they're curious as much as
we are, and so I'm getting better with that. I
think with me, it's just because I know how big
they are. So once you've already seen that, you picture that,

(26:47):
actually stay stepping out in front of you. I don't
care how much I deal with it. That's gonna That's
what scares me, is because I just know how big
they are. So but I still keep going. I'm back
that I'm very curious. I just want to learn more
about them. And you know, that's pretty much where I'm

(27:10):
at today. I mean, we still we're going to our
last camp next next week is our last camp at hockey,
I mean not hockeying, I'm sorry, Salt Fork, and then
the group camp area closes until April. But yeah, that's
that's what I try to do now, just research and
get out in the woods. I'm the kind of likes

(27:32):
to get out by the woods and and look and
experience stuff myself. So that's that's about where I'm at
right now. Current.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's a wild ride, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It was a very big wild ride. Yes, change my
life completely, Oh.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I'm sure it did. And there's life before in life
after an experience like that. You describe that cabin where
you had that experience as being remote, Debbie, how far
are we to say it is from the closest towers
or building.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
There is a guy's little house thing or trailer thing
down when you're coming, when you turn to come down
this one road, he's on the corner. And then you
come down the road some so then you would, you know,
you'll come up on our little road to go all
the way up to the cabin. So he's kind of

(28:26):
down there by his little lonesome but so he would
be like way at the bottom of the ravine, but
he'd be down by the road by the corner. It's
hard to explain, but I do know him or I
don't know whoever lives there. I don't know who it is,
but I just know the little place. It's like a
little I think it's like a trailer kind of thing.
Maybe that, And then that's the only one I know

(28:50):
right there. And then if you're up and you're at
the cabin and you're on that top deck and you
look out across to the other hill across the road
way over, you can see lights like there's another cabin
maybe way across on another hill. But that's probably about it,
unless you know. I haven't really investigated and went too

(29:13):
far in. But that's all. I don't know. I don't
think there's like, I don't know, I don't know how
far after that it would be to somebody else, But
it's it's pretty secluded. It's pretty secluded though.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, it sounds like it must have been when you
arrived at the cabin that Thursday. Did you already believe
in the existence of sasquatch or were you a skeptic?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
No, I wasn't a like UFO's and all that. I
never I never said never. I mean, I don't I
never like thought about it. But no, I wasn't a skeptic.
I didn't. I mean, in your mind, you think, okay, well,
you know things aren't supposed to be real, but can
it be sure. I can't say it's not. I've never
really seen anything myself, but I was never like a skeptic.

(30:02):
Skeptic now to Nija, the girl my daughter's best friend,
and she was really a skeptic, But no, I wasn't.
And I enjoyed, like say, I like like horror films
and things like that, and so when the Finding Bigfoot
show came on, me and my daughter enjoyed watching that together.

(30:23):
But it was never like constant on my mine or anything.
I'd never in a million years thought it was, you know,
like I would ever see something like that or even
think for sure if it's for real or not. You know,
I don't. I just didn't. I just wasn't like a skeptic. Skeptic.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Well, that's pretty normal. You never expect to have a
sasquatch experience until it actually happens, so that's totally normal.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah. Him coming out like that just blew my mind,
like just walking towards us like it was you and me,
like he's done it every day, like it's it's like
that's his cabin. He was just walking almost can be.
Didn't it just like it was normal thing to step
out at night when those lights are off and come
on up to the cabin. That he acted like it

(31:08):
was no big deal, and he was calm as can
be until he heard me scream and then he took off.
It was like, yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
That's a good way to sum it up. Your room
in that cabin was all windows with no Curtainsy, you said,
is that how all the rooms in that cabin were
with no privacy whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, I mean the living room because it was all
one so but the only room that had the curtains
was the one bedroom that had the jacuzzie cub the
main room, and it had two windows but had curtains
on those. And but I think I don't even think
any of the bedrooms, the rest of the bedrooms, I
don't think any there was any curtains anywhere except for

(31:53):
that one bedroom. It was real. That's what was spooky
about it. When I first walked in, I remember thinking,
oh my gosh, the windows are open, and the ones
in the living room in the kitchen area, they go
all the way like they're big, you know, from top
to you know, go down pretty far. It wasn't like
little windows.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
There's nothing like living out in the country. But yeah,
I think there's something pretty creepy about not having any
window coverings on, especially at night. I get it. You're
out there in the wilderness and you want to appreciate it,
but you never know when something like that might be
out there looking in. And I'm not a big fan
of living in a fish bowl.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
So well, and yeah, and that was the first thing
I thought when I walked in. I'm like, but never
thought of like a big foint. They just even if
it was just a person like, they wouldn't have to
All they would have to do is stand any they
could stand anywhere out there. They don't even have to
come up to the where they can stand anywhere out
there and be able to see in because there's you know,

(32:48):
the windows are so big and there's no curtains, so
that you know, and then that you know, that's what
made it creepy when I first walked in, and you know,
then just the main bedroom, the way, the two doors
to go outside, and I was by myself, and I'm like, yeah,
so you know, we were already joking around and getting
creeped out a little bit of like inside the certain things,

(33:10):
you know, But it was Halloween. We're all having fun,
and we were very loud. We had loud music going
all the time. We were laughing we were loud, so
I could see why they came in. I could definitely
see why they came in to see what was going on.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Well, sure, and all.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
The food we were cooking, especially that morning breakfast with
the bacon, and I remember opening the windows because of
the all the bacon smoke, so I could see why
we drew them in. And that's that's like a big
thing in the Bigfoot world. Half the time, all you

(33:49):
got to do is be yourself, do your own thing,
have fun, and they will come to you. That's when
they come. When they come to you. If you're going
to go out and search and try to chase after
them and chase and chase, they will, then you're not
gonna they're gonna keep going away or hiding. They like
to come to you, especially when it's dark and there's

(34:11):
no lights and they think that you can't see them.
They will come up close. That's what I learned, or
at least my opinion.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, I think you're right. If you haven't experienced this,
best just to let them come into you, that's the
best way to do it. Did you ever try to
find out if that capin had a history of Sasquatch
activity after you had those experiences that night.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
So I never told the lady, but I just talked
to her recently and I let her know, and they
already had a someone said something and it was in
either a magazine or a newspaper that was written and
their address was on it, and that somebody there at

(34:56):
their cabin had a sighting, and so they had already
heard about it. But that is the only thing that
she's heard from anybody saying anything to her. So yeah, So,
like I said, you either have to know what you're
going there to look for, because when the lights go

(35:20):
out and you're not out there, you don't know if
they're standing there watching in your window or not. Because
that's obviously what he was they were coming to do.
If my son's friend and his girlfriend were not out
on that deck, we would have never knew what was

(35:40):
going on out there. They would have just come up
to the cabin when we all went to bed.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
That's a frightening thought, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yes, And because they were out there, I think that's
why they were getting picked on to make them go
into the cabin. They were trying to get them to
go into the cabin. Eventually, that's what I think.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You're probably right about that. What do you think it
was about your group that interested the first Sasquatch enough
to cause it to come out of that ravine in
the first place and approach the cap and the way
it did.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
They were there all, my honest opinion, now, they were
there all day Friday watching. I think the smell of
the bacon, like the especially the bacon. I think the food.
I think our loud music that was going on outside
us laughing because we were in that hot tub a lot.
Uh you know, we were, you know, just having a

(36:35):
good time, and we were, you know, we're loud and
we're you know, music's blaring. I had some Halloween decorations
that were blinking and stuff that I had stuck out
like on the hill, like right in the grass in
the hill area. I just think it was us. I
think it was just the smell of food, our loudness

(36:55):
got them brought them in. They watched us throughout the day,
and they waited around until those lights went out. And
when those lights went out, and they thought that we
were in the bed, because they're smart, they could come
out now and we would never see them looking in
the windows. That I one hundred percent think that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, you're probably right about that. And you mentioned the
smell of the food and everything like that before earlier
in the show, and that makes sense that would draw
them in but not necessarily out of the ravine. They
could have monitored you from the ravine and you never
would have known it was there. But I just can't
wrap my mind around why it would actually make its

(37:41):
presence known the way it did. Well.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
They what happened was all day Friday, they were in
the ravine and all around they were watching from a distance.
That's why we smelled someone because not all of them
smell that I'm learning now one of them somebody smelled
because that was the what we were dealing with off
and on all day Friday, So I remember being most

(38:05):
of the day Friday into Friday night. Now, he did
not come out of that ravine until four in the morning,
so he he was hidden in the woods. They were
hidden in the ravine. They were hidden all day and
in the evening watching us. He did not come out

(38:25):
until I turned all those cabin lights out and they
actually thought that we were down for the night, and
that's when he decided to come out thinking that nobody.
It's almost like they didn't. They thought we were going
to bed and that was it. So that's when he

(38:48):
come out. They were watching all day and evening from
the ravine in all the surrounding woods from a distance.
We had no idea that they were watching us.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
And then your son and his girlfriend up on the deck,
they look down and they're the ones who saw him.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
They're the ones that went out. They could just say
they went out at eleven or twelve, I don't know.
They went out to smoke or whatever on the deck
and they just ended up standing out there talking and
going on, and they started hearing things. Things were like
odd things, like something was being thrown at them here
and there, just a bunch of things that were happening.

(39:28):
And in the very beginning, he thought it was us
coming around the other side of the cabin throwing things
at him or trying to scare them, because he was
the he was the prankster that was trying to scare
us at times throughout the day and Thursday night, So
he would jump around to the front of like jump

(39:49):
around the edges like thinking, oh, I gotcha, and there'd
be nobody there that was how it started. And then
it got more and more intense and louder to where
they knew it wasn't you know what is happening? And
then I guess there was one big crash that really
scared him to where he hurried up and blocked off

(40:09):
the stairway thinking something was gonna come up those stairs,
and he ran into the cabin and came straight to
my room. And when he banged my door open, that's
when he was in shock, like what is you know's
someone out there messing with us? And We're like no,
they were getting picked on out there, and they, you know,

(40:31):
nobody knew what was going on. We didn't know. We
were downstairs watching TV, so I'm not sure if they were.
They were trying to get them to come into the cabin,
is what I think, so they could come out. And
once they come into the cabin, it wasn't that long

(40:53):
that we turned those lights off. Once they came in
and we ran downstairs. I it was maybe ten ten minutes.
I sai, let's turn the lights off so I can
see out the windows better. And as soon as that
light went off, not about five minutes later, he come
out of the ravine, and that's and Matt Moneymaker told
me that's because he once the lights went off, he

(41:15):
thought everybody was down for the night. Everybody went into
their beds. They're down for the night, and you know
it's safe to come out.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Yeah, he's probably right.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And it could have been. We don't know if any
of the other ones were coming out of the woods.
I only spotted him, so there could have been other
ones coming out at different spots, Like one could have
came out the front. Nobody was in the front looking.
Nobody was on the other side of the cabin, on
that bedroom. Nobody you know what I'm saying. We just

(41:48):
happened to be standing at that kitchen window or the
front window in the back of the thing when he
popped out, because when I screamed, it startled him and
he turned around and flew back down the ravine. So
he really thought nobody was standing. Nobody was there, Everybody

(42:09):
was in their beds. I guess that's why he come out.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Yeah, had every reason to think that too. And you're
I think you're right. I bet you have a pretty
good amount of money that there were other sasquatch that
came out that you just didn't see.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, they could have come out anywhere, because I know
they were in the front and I know they you know,
you can hear them all around. So, like I said, one,
they could have stepped out anywhere. We nobody was over
there looking. We just happened to be standing in front
of that window when he stepped out of that side
of the ravine and we noticed from like the padded

(42:49):
down grass and everything that you can tell how padded
it is back there. They used that a lot as
far as like coming out going maybe to the other
side of the woods or going to the backwoods. You
can see like the pat the movement, like the down
grass all over when we were looking the next day.

(43:09):
But yeah, that's why he felt like he could come out.
And I'm telling you from the feeling I get this
isn't the first time, not the way he was all
calm about it. I think a lot of people that
rent this cabin and maybe other cabins in the vicinity
or people's houses. I think they come up and walk

(43:30):
around when they're in bed. They are they totally are
smart and they know and if they've done it so
many times, they know when that cabin is going to
have people they can hear them, they could see the
lights on, and they you know, then they just come
and check them out when they can. And we happen
to be very loud, so we were having a good time.

(43:54):
So they probably definitely were like, let's go check out
this group.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
How many people are awakened, weary of their surroundings at
four am?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, we, like I said, we were watching movies, and
you know, they ended, you know, that was a purpose
of staying up late, watching you know, horror films, you know,
and they they were still out there on the deck
talking because that's I went and said good night to them,
and they were already being messed with. Well, we were
watching the movies downstairs. We had no idea. They didn't

(44:24):
come and tell us. They were just putting up with it,
just thinking, you know, you know, all must be this.
Let's just ignore them, Let's ignore them until the point
where they couldn't ignore it anymore, and realized, okay, now
this now we're getting personally scared. Something's off. And then
that's when I already said good night to them. But
it wasn't five minutes. I got up there and got

(44:46):
in that bed because I remember feeling all comfortable and
was on my phone, and then boomed that door banged open,
so I knew that he you know, whatever happened was
not even a couple of minutes of five minutes after
I said good night with him and got upstairs. That
scared them to where they were like, that's it. We're
blocking the stairs off and locking the door and running

(45:08):
and getting getting me up. And we didn't know what
to think. You know, we didn't know if there was
like a whole bunch of people in the woods just
coming after us. We didn't know what was happening at
that moment, you know, we didn't know, so we didn't
know what to think. But I never expected something like
that to come out step out of the woods at all.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
You never do until it happens. I'm sure a lot
of listeners are wondering, Debbie, as soon as it went
back into the ravine, why didn't you leave?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I don't know. We well, we all I went and
got everybody up, and everybody was like, what are you
talking about? Blah blah blah, I said, and so they
knew I was all shooking up. And then and then
of course mattin Tonija confirmed it or whatever and so
we all went out on the top of the deck,
the top deck together, and we're all just listening, trying

(46:03):
to figure out what's going on. And then that's when
we all heard all those noises in those vocals. And
once we went once we experienced even the front of
the cabin. When we all came back inside, some of
them were like, because you know, we had, we had
everybody's been up all night. You know, none of us

(46:24):
even went to bed because all you know, you know,
this happened so quick and or barely slept, you know,
before they all got woken up, and so some a
couple of them went to go, I'm gonna go try
to lay down for a little bit. The rest of
us were in the living room sitting there going over

(46:45):
all these scenarios. What just happened? What do we do?
And my one son was saying, as soon as it
gets light out, if we go out there and we
see a bunch of human footprints or anything weird out
of the order or something, he goes or whatever, we're leaving,
we're packing up and going. So we were kind of

(47:07):
waiting until we went out to look around once this
once had gotten light to see what was going on,
and because I and no matter what we were putting
through our head, we knew it wasn't a human. There's
no possible way it could have been humans, And so

(47:28):
we just, I don't know, we just all agreed that
we didn't. I didn't, we didn't leave. We paid all
that money, We're like, we're staying. We've you know, just
played it by day. But like after that, and we
all even actually took a walk in the woods after that,
after everybody got together, We're like, let's all go check
the woods out, let's check the area. And I don't know,

(47:53):
I think we just all felt like they were gone.
For one it was it was just felt different. We
were all like, where's this, where'd the smell go? And
we were putting two together that obviously the smell had
something to do with them. But that night, Saturday night,
that's why me and my daughter, there was a few

(48:15):
of us, but then they went in and me and
my daughter were like, no, we're staying out for a
little bit longer and kind of kept watching to see
if there was anything remotely happening. And you could just
tell they were gone, and it was peaceful. You can
hear a pin drop. It was just so different, so different.

(48:36):
But yeah, no, we decided to stick it out. But
we almost left. We almost left. My one son was
about to pack it up. But I'm glad we stayed.
I'm glad. I'm glad we didn't because it just showed
the rest of the time that the smell disappeared, and
that it was peaceful, and how different it was than

(48:58):
it was on Friday. It showed us, you know, showed
me at least that you could tell the difference on
you could tell Thursday. When we got there, it was raining,
a little nothing out of ordinary. Now did they come
during the night that night while we were sleeping? I
have no idea. I have no idea when they approached

(49:21):
this cabin. All I know is when I first stepped
out into that hot tub around eleven or twelve that
next day is when I smelled the smell. And it
was there all day on and off all day Friday
until after the whole sighting ordeal. So I'm not sure
when they arrived. All I know is when I first

(49:44):
smelled the smell. They could have been branches brain. We
don't know. We didn't know anything back then. We don't
know if there was branches breaking and all that. You know,
if there was some random noises, unless it really stuck out,
we didn't notice anything because we didn't know anything. You know,
we weren't looking, We weren't you never think of anything,
you know what I mean, Like nothing, you know, so

(50:07):
we were clueless. But now if I was there, I
could tell you if I hear something or something out
of the ordinary, I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's not normal.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I'm sure it's not lost on you that most people
the moment they realized there was a sasquatch outside of
that cabin, they would have been out of there. But
that brings up the next question, which is how far
were your vehicles parked from the cabin when the sasquatch
approached it?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Right there, they were right in the driver right right
up against the cabin, because when you come in, you
can park right up right there and then you just
step out of your car, get your stuff, walk right
through the front door. So the cars were right there,
and when we went into the front of the cabin
and we walked past, we were by the cars a
little bit, but a little bit down further. When we
were standing in the middle of the driveway right there,

(50:54):
trying to concentrate what was on the left, trying to
see what it was and what was going on over there.
But we were all like kind of a little huddle,
and I remember turning around. A couple of us were
turning around and the ravine was behind us, and we're like, okay,
well there's still stuff going on behind us. Let's let's
not all turn our back on that. So, you know,

(51:16):
we kept like looking back and forth. But yeah, and
I've never stopped since. You would think I would never
step a foot back in the woods either. But I
mean some people it does that too, and some people
it makes them want to know more. And it definitely
made me want to know more, and I will. We

(51:40):
just went to a camp last week and me and
my daughter were by ourselves in the back corner in
a tent, by ourselves, and I look at her and
I'm like, we're crazy sometimes, like what we'll do? You know?
But I you know, I just I don't feel threatened.

(52:00):
If I felt threatened in any way, I would not
even be putting myself out there. But so far, I've
not felt threatened.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Well that's good. I'm so glad you're able to head
back out and enjoy the wilderness the way you have been.
That's always a good thing.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Love nature. I love it. I love the country. I
want to live in the country one day. That's where
I just want to be. I love the peacefulness. I
just love it. Even if he's not the big guy's
not there. I always say, I just loved I don't care.
Me and my daughter will just we'll look at everything, bugs, butterflies,
you name it, animals, we just nature people. We just

(52:40):
love it, everything about it.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Oh, no, I get it. I definitely do. And of
course I hope you're able to move out into the
country sooner rather than later, because yeah, there's nothing like
living out in the country. After the dust had settled
that Friday night, a lot of people in your group
had laid down. From what you know, was anyone able
to sleep.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Though, No, I did not go back to bed. I
did not sleep from I never went to bed when
I got up Friday the first night, I didn't even
really sleep because I didn't feel comfortable in that room.
Now now that I look back at it, that room

(53:20):
the windows are ground level, and the one side faces
over to where like the one side was where like
the footstep, the footprint was and stuff like that. Now
I don't know if I was uneasy because there was
something out there, I don't know, but I could not sleep,
and I waited till daylight. And when I saw the

(53:44):
daylight coming through the windows, that's when I dozed off
for two hours. So then all then I was up
all day Friday. Friday night when I when I told you,
I switched rooms because I couldn't. I didn't feel comfortable
being alone down there, so I went upstairs and with
another room with my daughter's friend to Najia where there

(54:07):
was two beds. When I just got in that bed,
that's why I remember feeling so comfortable and being like, finally,
you know, I can get some sleep. And then the
door banged open and it was Matt standing there. All
that happened, I never went to bed until still Saturday night,
I never went to bed, and there was several of

(54:31):
us that never slept, me and my daughter. I think
my daughter was one of them. And then like that morning,
right after it happened, and we all came in, we're
all freezing to death. It was like twenty degrees outside.
That's when a couple of them said, we're gonna I'm

(54:52):
gonna try to go lay down for a little bit
after the ordeal, but most of us was up talking
in that living room about you know, what just happened
in scenarios and the whole thing. And then, like I said,
I never went to bed. I didn't go to bed
till about four am on that Sunday morning because me

(55:12):
and my daughter actually stayed up that night seeing if
anything was going to come back. And then I finally
got a little bit of sleep, but I actually did
not get to rest to rest until I was home
on Sunday Sunday night. I couldn't sleep after that.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Sleep's normally hard to come by after an experience like that,
So I get it. Yeah, yeah, were you able to
get a cell phone signal at that cabin? And if so,
did you ever think about calling that rental office that
rendered the cabin to you just a short distance away?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
No, we did have service. I'm pretty sure. I don't
know how great it was. I don't remember, but pretty
sure we had service. But no, I never thought about
I thought about. We talked about should I tell the
lady we runted it? And like I said from twenty
twenty till recent I never said a word or I
just didn't want her to be bombarded by like all

(56:08):
these bigfoot people and bringing cameras in this and putting
cameras all in the woods around the cabin, and you know,
just all that kind of stuff that I know that
a lot of them would have, and I just never
told her until recent. Now she but she did hear
something from a newspaper magazine that someone had brought to
her saying, hey, your address is saying that there was

(56:28):
a big foot sight and hit your cabin. But that
was all she ever heard. But now she knows who
I am, and now she knows what happened to me.
Just recent I finally told her, and I came home too.
It was another thing I did. I kind of looked
it up and I was looking under her comment section
just to see if there was anything previously before my experience.

(56:52):
Did anybody say anything weird happened? And I've never seen
anybody say anything, So that's why I didn't say anything.
I'm like, well, I don't want, you know, I don't
know if I should say anything or not. So yeah,
so no, I thought about it real quick, but not
at the moment I didn't think about calling him up
in a panic or anything and say, hey, this just
happened here, you know, because we you know, we knew

(57:15):
we were gonna stay till until it was over, and
you know, I just we just left there and went home.
And then, like I said, I reached out to who
are the only two people I know that was in
the Bigfoot world at the time, because I didn't know anybody,
and he did call me back. Now I just know

(57:37):
tons the Bigfoot world and family huge. So yeah, I go. Yeah,
I go everywhere, Bigfoot festivals, I go everywhere. I try to.
I've been trying to go to more places. Yeah, but
ever since then, it just took it took over my world.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Sure it has. Now. You told us about how you're
featured on season three, episode seven of these Woods are Haunted.
How they find out about you though through Matt Moneymaker
or via some other means.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
The BFRL website. They looked down there saw my new
sighting or the sighting, you know, and you know, when
you got ten people and you got three out of
ten that actually saw it with their with their eye,
and you know, and you know, it's it's a pretty
big sighting a pretty big thing, and that caught their

(58:33):
eye right away and then they you know, they got
the whatever through them to call me. But that's that's
how they got Yeah, that's how they got my story
was through the BFR because that's the only one that
knew at that point about my sighting. I only told
Matt and he put it on the BFRL website.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
That'd be a great way for them to find guests.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Yeah, that's what she told me, the one lady that
sometimes they'll look on websites like that, and you know,
so when mine, you know, mine popped on there, they
were like wow. And and there wasn't really anyone else
at Hawking Hills that reported one. So that was another thing.
And I know from Hacking Hills. Even the sighting that

(59:16):
Matt Moneymaker said he just came from there was a
mile away from the cabin. He said it was a
sighting like mine. It wasn't, you know. Some of these
people just don't a lot of people just don't report.
So that's like the Salt Fork area. In other areas,
there's a lot of stuff that happened, but it's not

(59:37):
reported yeap.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Like I said, for obvious reasons, it's understandable. Have you
been back to that cabin since that experience happened.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Yes, we went. I got to go last year. I
took a few of the you know, some people with me,
and you could still you could tell, you could still feel,
you could tell a couple of things that popped up
with them guys and what everybody experienced. That they're still
in the area. I think they're still an area. I

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will always try to go back there. That was my
sighting spot. So I will always try to go back
there if I can. It's just you know, you need
the money and you know, and then it's hard to
get all these people together, you know, so it's not
an easy thing to try to get you know, get
it to get it to work. But yeah, definitely, definitely,

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I'll always probably go there as long as I can.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Well, when you go back, I hope you do have
an experience someday.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
I think so. I think so. I think they're still
in the area. I definitely think they're in Hocking Hills
area for sure. Definitely, Wayne National Forest, Big One. Just
depends on you know, it depends on where that you know,
where activity happens. I mean, so that's just part of it.

(01:01:02):
You know. You can you know, we go camping all
the time at Salt Fork. There could be times where
it's just quiet, nothing, nothing, and then there's times where
you could just you just know and you can hear
them around. You know, it just depends.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
And too now you have that experience, you're on the radar,
So that does increase the odds if you're having another experience.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah, and me going with my daughter, it's like me
and my daughter's like a team, so we go everywhere together,
and you know, she's had her own you know, we've
had to have some sick things happen, you know, us
together at you know, Salt Fork, and like I se
you know a couple of things we've seen and you know,

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coming across the footprint or something like that. But we're
learning still even though we you know, since it's been
twenty twenty, I'm still learning, you know, I still don't.
And and a lot of it is just when you
get out there and you experienced it for yourself, you
start to have your opinions. You start to think, Okay, well,

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I wonder if they're doing if this is happening because
of this, and you start having your own theories and
testing your own theories because nobody knows. Nobody knows one
hundred percent anything like totally about them. Nobody knows one
hundred percent what they are, what they're capable of. Nobody
knows a hundred percent. Everybody has their opinions, but when

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it comes down to it, nobody knows one hundred percent.
We don't know what they're capable of, you know. I
mean we all have our opinions of what we've experienced.
So you know, I think they're definitely smart, and they've
already outsmarted everything you could put a camera out. They're
not going to put their face in front of the camera,

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you know it. It's just things that you just pick
up on and you know because you've you've you know,
you witnessed or you know that they're not gonna And
just from my personal experience at the cabin, like I said,
they came to us. We knew nothing about them, but

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they came to us to check us out because they're curious.
And I think that that's what a lot of times
they do, and people just don't know they're they're watching.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Well, as you know, people don't really pay much attention
to their surroundings when they're in the woods. So I
think that's a pretty effective technique for them, just to
hang out in the area and when people come into
the area and whatnot, they're not going to pay attention
to what's around them, so it gives them a good
opportunity to sneak in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And I think sometimes they slip up like we do
on a lot of stuff. And you know, and that
night at the cabin, I you know, they thought we
went to our bedrooms, and sure enough we were standing
right there in the kitchen. And I don't think they
you know, it just kind of just moved. I think
he come out and moved too quick, and and and
he got seen. And I think a lot of things

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that like, you know, hunters and people like that up
in their tree stands and things, and you know, they
might come around the corner and not realize that they're
up there, and you know, you stun both you stunned,
you stun each other. You know. I think that's a
lot of sightings too. And you know, how they're crossing,
Maybe they're in the middle of crossing a road and
you come around the corner and catch them on your head.
Light and you know, a lot of those unexpected accident ones.

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But you know, I do think they come in and
get pretty close when they think that you don't you
can't see them. You know, they can be very sneaky.
You would think how big they are, they wouldn't be
able to sneak the way they do. But we don't
know a lot about them, but they could be sneaky.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Well too. They don't have any TV. We are their TV.
So yeah, for a source of entertainment, why not mess
with us or at least come in and watch us?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I would I always tell them. I always joke about
the juveniles and stuff. I'm like, even if I was
an adult one like I you know, I could just
be sitting there like, why there's campers, you know, and
you throw a little pebble, I'd be like, watch this,
you know what I mean, And just our reaction is funny,
you know what I mean. So I could see I

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always joke about it. I could see why they would
want to pick on us because it's funny. It's their entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Oh, no doubt. They can run circles around us in
the woods, and why not do that If that's the case, Well,
tell you what, Debbie. We're about ready to get out
of here, but before we do, I just want to
thank you so much for coming on to share those
experiences with us. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Oh you're welcome. I love telling it. I love explaining
it and letting everybody know that you know they're there,
and I know you know they are there, and you
know it's it's exciting. I mean I I you know,
just they're curious and we're curious. You know about them,
And I don't care what anybody says. I know I

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saw it with my own eyeball. I saw it. I
know exactly what that was and everything that came with it,
and everything since then that I've learned and and had
happened with me and my daughter that yeah, we are,
we are sharing whatever with them, and who knows what else?
Who knows what else is out there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Yeah, that's true. That's a big question. What isn't out there?
So it does make you wonder. Well, thanks again so
much for your time. W Like I said, I really
appreciate it. To have a great night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
That's it for another episode of Bigfoot Eye Witness Radio
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