When life throws its hardest challenges—divorce, injuries, the loss of a beloved parent, and the relentless pace of a demanding career—what keeps a champion going? For Sara Henninger Dunn, it’s the unshakable mindset she’s honed since her days as a collegiate All-American swimmer and her enduring relationship with the water. In this inspiring episode of Champion’s Mojo, Sara shares how a fierce mental toughness, built from years of competitive swimming, helped her navigate life’s toughest lanes with grace and resilience.
Sara opens up about rediscovering swimming after a 20-year break, how the pool became her sanctuary during the grieving process, and why staying active is her ultimate form of self-care amidst a hectic work life. She also shares the rituals, routines, and mindset hacks—like wearing handmade bracelets with personal mantras—that keep her grounded and focused. Whether you’re an athlete, a professional juggling life’s demands, or someone seeking inspiration to overcome personal hurdles, Sara’s journey reminds us that it’s not just about winning races—it’s about winning at life.
Tune in for a heartfelt conversation packed with wisdom on grit, reinvention, and the healing power of community and movement.
Sara Dunn, state, national, and world record breaker in US Master Swimming, shares her incredible journey of returning to competitive swimming after a 20-year break following an injury in 2015. Her story demonstrates how passion for swimming can transcend time and how the right mindset can lead to continued success at any age.
• Returned to swimming after a serious ankle injury prevented land-based cardio exercise
• Earned All-American honors (top time nationally) consistently since returning to competition
• Uses personal mantras like "make good choices" and "we don't do that anymore" as mental tools
• Sets goal times as her phone lock screen for constant motivation and focus
• Defines success as being better than she was the day before, not comparing to college-age times
• Values the SwimMac Masters community as family who support her in and out of the pool
• Recently became chair of North Carolina Master Swimming
• Maintains a consistent schedule: swimming Sunday/Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday, lifting Monday/Wednesday
• Would advise her college-age self to "never stop swimming"
Find Sara through US Masters Swimming or connect with your local masters swimming program to experience the joys of lifelong swimming in a supportive community.
Email us at HELLO@ChampionsMojo.com. Opinions discussed are not medical advice, please seek a medical professional for your own health concerns.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello friends, welcome to the Champions Mojo
podcast, where we celebrate theextraordinary stories of adult
athletes who inspire us withtheir passion, comebacks and
stories we can all relate to.
Today's guest is incrediblyspecial to me, not just because
of her impressive swimmingaccomplishments, but because I
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had the privilege of coachingher at the University of South
Carolina.
Because I had the privilege ofcoaching her at the University
of South Carolina yes, I'mtalking about Sarah Dunn, a
state national and world recordbreaker in US master swimming.
She's also a national championand an All-American and one of
the fiercest competitors andtremendous inspirations to me
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and others.
Sarah grew up in Beaver Creek,ohio, and I knew her as Sarah
Henninger.
She dove into summer league atage eight and never looked back.
Her early talent and work ethictook her to the Ohio State High
School Championships threetimes, five trips to YMCA
Nationals and ultimately intoher high school's Hall of Fame.
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At the University of SouthCarolina she became a four-time
NCAA All-American, landed on theSEC academic honor roll and was
named female student athlete ofthe year in 1995.
As her coach, I got to witnessfirsthand her incredible drive,
leadership and heart in and outof the pool.
After college, sarah steppedaway from swimming, but life had
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other plans.
In 2015, an injury and apersistent friend led her back
to the water.
She joined SwimMac Masters andfound a new kind of team, one
that felt like a family.
Since then, she's shatteredrecords, embraced the master
swimming lifestyle and steppedup as a leader in the sport,
recently becoming the chair ofthe North Carolina Master
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Swimming.
Sarah's story is one oflifelong passion, comeback,
strength and giving back.
I'm so proud of the swimmer andwoman she is today.
Sarah, welcome to ChampionsMojo.
Thank you, kelly, that's sokind.
Well, you know you and I have ahistory, so it's really great to
catch up with you.
And so, even though we've seeeach other let's say
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infrequently, but enough to havestayed in touch over the years
at master's meets Tell me thestory of what life had other
plans like what was the injuryand what brought you back to
swimming in 2015?
I don't even know that story.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay.
So it started out.
You know everybody's workingout.
I was working out at the gymrunning, doing strength training
, and I was working out with oneof my friends one morning at
the Y and was doing step ups onthe box and came down and landed
wrong on my ankle and it poppedand that was the end of any
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sort of land cardio for me.
Um, that was almost 10 yearsago.
Um ended up going to the ER thatmorning.
They weren't sure if it was asprain or a break.
Um made it to work by 8 30 andtwo days later found out it was
just a really bad strain, so gotto wear everybody's favorite
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boot for about six weeks andthen did the pt and then decided
um, my friend's been reallybugging me to start swimming
again and now seems like a goodtime as any and I went to my
first practice.
Had I been told that my firstpractice was going to be long
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course, I probably would nothave shown up.
But here we were long coursepractice in the middle of
October and I said I'm here, I'mgoing to do it, and haven't
looked back, so it's been great.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So at that point you were out of the water, probably
like 20 years, 20 years of likeno swimming whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I dabbled a little bit in 2004.
But when I say a little bit, Imean a very little bit, like
maybe six months.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So in looking in looking at your master swimming
record, I noticed that you knowyou came back in 2015 and you
earned all American honors,which, for anybody that doesn't
know what that is, that meansthe number one time and at least
one event in the entire country.
You have never missed earning anumber one spot in your event
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or events since you came back in2016.
So almost 10 straight years.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Almost that streak's going to be broken this year,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Are you sure, oh?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
yeah, yes, okay, well , it was a pretty long streak.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think that's pretty impressive to come out of that,
but it sounds like you werestaying in shape in other ways.
You came back from injury.
Do you have any other comebackstories?
Just either in your life or inum your swimming um, well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm currently on a comeback, I guess.
Um, I was out most of last yearwith a shoulder injury, which
is how I know the all is broken,um, so I've been working
towards getting back into that.
And then, um, uh, my mom passedaway in March so I've been
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taking some time away from thepool to deal with that.
Um, but yeah, it's, you know,the pool has always had.
The pool has shown me latelythat that is where I'm going to
find my solace.
So not just the water, but thefriends who I'm surrounded with
and who are like, hey, are youcoming to practice today?
We miss you.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So, yeah, in any sport or any coffee group or
bowling group that you know,that group that misses you when
you don't show up is so they say.
That's so essential to thehealth and well being that we
have when, in every area of ourlife and certainly as we get
older.
So, Sarah, I am going to tellyou a little story that I
remember about you.
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Oh gosh, I know.
The thing that I remember iswhat an incredible mindset you
had, and I imagine you obviouslystill have it.
But talking about mindset, whenI was the coach there at South
Carolina, any recruit that cameto campus I would have a
one-on-one and learn a littlebit more without the crowds of
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other team members around.
And one of the questions that Iwould ask, which was kind of a
vetting question, was let'simagine that you are in the
final of the NCAA championshipsand you're in the.
You're in the final heat,you're in the top eight and you
have a lane.
You can imagine, whatever laneyou're in, what is going through
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your mind when you're therebehind the blocks.
And I recall what you said Doyou, do you recall that?
That question?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I don't recall, but I I know what you have told me I
was gonna win, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And and what was so different about you, um, with
answering that question?
And it was?
It was a pretty quick answer.
It wasn't like you thoughtabout.
You know what does she want tohear?
And the reason that I I feellike it was very authentic and
genuine was that you would beamazed at the number of recruits
that came into that office andthen answered that question with
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, oh my gosh, what am I doing inthe final?
Or even something like, oh, Iwould never make the final of
the NCAA, you know.
So where do you think that thattough mindset came from?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think I definitely got a lot of like can-do
attitude and can do positivity.
For my mom and dad, you know,there wasn't anything that they
ever held us back from trying.
Of course, I was only ever goodat one thing.
I also think that because I'm,as you know, a straight up
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brushstroker, I always had towork harder in practice to keep
up with the normal grinded outyardage, freestyle IM stuff.
So, and like you said, if youhave a lane, you have a chance,
and I've always believed that.
My mom used to love to say youknow, cheering for the Gamecocks
is very difficult, um, as afootball team and she was like,
on any given Saturday, anythingcan happen.
If you have a lane, anythingcan happen.
Um.
So, yeah, I, just withouthaving a lot of physical
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experience and physicalbackground like I didn't really
lift weights until I went tocollege is my mind, was my best
asset, besides my physicalability to swim, just
breaststroke.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah.
So, um, if you were to likelook back on your entire life,
what would you say?
That that mindset that you youhave has helped you through some
other stuff Like what, what doyou?
How do you apply that to yourlife?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Mm.
Hmm, I'm thinking.
I mean, first of all, first andforemost, it helped me get
through a divorce, you know,three years into a marriage that
you know did not end well.
And I was like, ok, this iswhere we are, let's move on to
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the next.
You know, I spent some time.
I had to move back in with mymom and dad when I was 30, which
no 30 year old wants to do.
But you know, I'm veryfortunate that I was able to do
that.
I was like, okay, next step goget a job.
Let's go get a job.
And I got an interview with mycurrent employer and I've been
there for 23 years and it's just.
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You know, I started out indifferent positions in my
company and I wanted to move up.
So I was like, okay, what do Ineed to do to get the attention?
I need to move up?
How can I help?
What can I learn?
And I feel like that's justalways been my kind of mindset,
like I want to keep learning newthings and that cause I know
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that's going to help me achievemy goals.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So what would be something new that you've
learned, that you just neverthought you would learn or do?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I haven't actually learned, mastered it.
I've spent a lot of timedeveloping a new hobby, which is
crocheting, which is verygrandma but very relaxing, keeps
my hands busy, keeps my mindbusy, you know, so that I don't
drift off into places of doom.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah yeah.
Well, that's great to know thatsomebody who has a tough mindset
does have the ability to driftoff into places of doom you know
, I mean, I find that that'skind of a commonality, that you
know that really, what makes adifference in somebody who
succeeds and somebody whodoesn't is we all can drift off
to places of doom, right.
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I mean, it's just kind of Ithink that's the way our minds
are built to protect us fromthings.
So what, what are some of thethings that besides crocheting,
are there things that you say orthings that you do that help
you keep your mind on track?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I have a couple of bracelets that I've made and
wear.
One says make good choices,just to remind me to choose the
right things, and one says wedon't do that anymore, or the
initials WDDTA, just to remindmyself, like you used to do,
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that that was a bad thing.
We don't do that anymore.
They're just kind of personalto me, like reminders that I
like to wear on my wrist toremind keep my mindset right.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh my gosh, I love that.
I think that's awesome.
That is really, really great.
I mean, making good choices issuch a great thing.
So and it sounds like you are abig planner you know you've.
You've planned your, your, yourgoals for your 23 year career.
You wanted to take this step,take that step.
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You said now one of the thingsthat you and I talked about a
little bit before we startedrecording not today, but on
another day um it, you knowwe're, we're recording this in
late May and you are alreadyplanning for the 2026 spring
nationals, which is almost ayear away.
Yes, so tell us, like you know,how you can focus on that.
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You know when you're, whenyou're this far out, walk us
through that long term trainingand how you're going to stay
focused over the long haul.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, first of all, I'm I'm recommitting to my
teammates because the meet is inGreensboro and we are going to
bring a large contingent fromNorth Carolina and from SwimMac.
I'm recommitting to myself andto my teammates to get back on
track with my workouts.
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That's first and foremost.
And then start dialing in thenutrition.
There was a lot of emotionalsupport eating the last couple
months, so we're dialing thatback.
And then just smaller goals,like let's go to this meet,
let's go to another meet Ihaven't planned out the meet yet
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that I'm going to, but thoseare in the works.
And then one of my favoritethings to do is to put my goal
times on my lock screen on myphone so that I'm always looking
.
You know you're always lookingat your phone and you see those
times.
You're like, okay, this is whyI need to do this, this is why
I'm doing that, and just kind ofkeep those in the forefront.
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I haven't again decided whatthose goals are going to be,
cause I'm kind of I'm not movingup into a new age group or
anything.
So and I think Erica set somereally fast records the 50 and
the 100 brushstroke.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So these are going to be times just for myself, uh,
things that I want to achieve,so yeah, yeah, I like that and
that's um erica braun who's beenon the show and we we have a
maria and I uh, when maria waswith me as a co-host, we always
kind of joked.
Whenever we could say ericabraun's name, we did.
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It's just it's just kind of afun buzzword yeah it's great
that you mentioned erica yeahyeah, she's a real, real
champion.
So how do you define success inmaster swimming for you?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
one of the things that I had to learn, um, when I
came back to master swimming, umand it took me a while to
figure this out is I am honestlynever going to be as fast as I
was when I was in college, but Ican be better than I was the
day before.
So every day at practice I tryto be better than I was the day
before.
Um, so that's kind of how Idefine success.
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Um, as far as my times go, Ithink I just need to, you know,
get a meter to win, since it'sbeen a while.
I mean, I did swim in March but, um, that was very emotional
and very rough Um, so I need toget a couple of meets in after
I've been training for a littlebit and then kind of go from
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there.
So what my goals are going tobe like, because I want to set a
high, but attainable goals.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So the the meat that was emotional was that around
the loss of your mom.
It was three weeks after shepassed away, but you still swam
in the meat I did um, there werea couple of reasons why I
wanted to swim in that meet.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Uh, first of all, it was, um, practically our North
Carolina board meeting, where Iwas going to be elected into the
chair position, so I thought itwas important to be there for
that, and I had entered the meetbefore my mom passed and I know
that she would have wanted meto swim.
So one of the things my momloved was watching me swim and
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she, she loved watching masterswimming because, like you know,
you could live stream nationalsand she'd always be like what
heat lane are you in, what heatlane are you in?
And I'm like, okay, I'm in thisheat, I'm in this lane, and
remember, I'm wearing the redcap, because not a lot of people
wear red caps, and that was soshe could see me when she was
watching, because, you know,sometimes it gets to be a little
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flurry of activity in the pool.
Um, so, yeah, so I, I, I did itfor her.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So yeah, that's, that's beautiful and, yeah, that
is one of the the great thingsabout masters nationals is it
does stream.
So, sarah, the idea that, yes,we've all had our faster days.
What advice would you give toswimmers that think they're past
their prime and they'rehesitant to really return to
competition because they knowthey're going to be slower?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think you have to erase those times from your mind
.
It's more important to berealistic.
Remember that you're doingsomething now that's good for
your body, that's good for yourmind, you're going to have fun
with your teammates, and justconsider these your new era of
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times.
Like, okay, that was not mybest college time but or my best
personal time, but this is mybest master's time and I'm
really proud of that.
So it does.
It can take a hot minute to getyour mind wrapped around that,
though I understand it took me awhile.
Like, why should I do this?
I'm not going to be fast, butI'm not a fast 22 year old Sarah
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, but I can be a fast 52 yearold Sarah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, and I think that you know, once you kind of
just let go of that and yourealize, like masters running or
other masters events, that youknow you're only competing
against people your age.
So it's not like you're goingto even be competing against any
age 22, sarah or Susan oranybody.
You're going to be competingagainst other women that are
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your age or other men that areyour age, and that I love the
fact that Masters just rankseverybody.
So you can see.
You know I thought I reallysucked, but hey I'm.
I'm 20th out of 600 peoplewho've ever swum in all of
history.
Like Master Swimming hasamazing stats.
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So you can see Huge database,huge database.
Then when you compare thoserankings, you age up and you're
like whoa, I went from being40th in that top of my age group
to being third in the nextgroup, right right yeah, master
Sw, swimming where aging up is agood thing it.
Yeah, that's one of the beauty,beauties of it, sarah.
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What kind of rituals orroutines do you think have
helped you just be successfuloverall in life?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
oh, um, paying attention to my body, um, I know
that's not really a ritual orroutine, but it's just.
You know, if something hurts,I'm going to address it.
Of course, getting enough sleep, which I have struggled with
the last few years, but I founda program now that's working for
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me, that's helping me sleepbetter.
I think, honestly, justmaintaining a routine,
maintaining a schedule, nomatter what it is like.
You know, I swim Sunday,Tuesday, thursday, saturday, I
lift weights on Monday, andWednesday, friday, is my rest
day.
That is my routine.
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It works for me.
You know, would I love to be oneof those people who, could, you
know, go swim in the morningand then come home and sit in a
sauna or do a cold plunge orrelax with my coffee outside
while I journal.
Yes, I would love that.
That's not my life right now.
I'm making my life right nowwork for me, and I think that's
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part of it too, like fittingyour passions and your hobbies
and your self-care because,let's face it, swimming is a
form of self-care, exercising isa form of self-care Into your
professional life is importantfor everyone to do.
There's you can have excuses,but you can find your way around
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those excuses, like there'sprobably 40 of us at least that
get up in the morning to swim at515.
And that's just at my poolalone.
I know there's people all overthe country that do that.
You can fit it in in thepockets of your your life if
it's important to you.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you go to bed early?
I do, yeah, you're probablypretty exhausted and sleeping
well.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So if you could go back to your college age self
and give yourself one piece ofadvice, what would it be that
you know now?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Don't stop swimming.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Oh, I love it.
Wow, darn it Don't ever stopswimming.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I preach that all the time.
I've said this maybe 10 timesnow on this podcast, but I just
hate it when the youngins postI'm retiring from swimming.
I just wish they'd say I'mpushing pause, I'm taking a
break, you know, I'm just, I'mgoing to take some time off.
But the idea that swimming is alifelong sport you know, it's
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just you, just really.
I even feel like if, what areyour thoughts on this?
That if somebody got out ofcollege and they just you know
they were a good swimmer, oreven high school, and they just
swam literally once a week,maybe twice a week, just get in
there and don't lose the feelfor the water, just have fun,
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dolphin dive and get some, youknow, do a few things, that that
it would go a long way.
I mean, sure, take a month offof two months off, six months
off, but that if they juststayed in touch with the water a
little bit not to get burnedout, that it would make a huge
difference.
I agree, I agree.
Don't take 20 years.
Yeah, don't take 20 years.
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I mean I've even taken um, I'veprobably only taken two or
three years off per age group,but those two or three years
that I take off are so hard tocome back from and this is the
only age group I've ever swumall the years through the age
group.
So we'll see what happens?
I've never, ever.
I only swim at the bottom ofthe age group and then I take
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like three years off, so I feellike that's a trend.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, it's totally been a people that do that.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, it's a total pattern with a lot of people,
but you know I'm going to try itand see how.
You know I'm going to, you know, try to use my own advice and
see how that works.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I mean why not?
What do you have to lose?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Right, yeah, I just usually kind of just decide to
do other things, but um, I'mgonna try it.
So, um, now, what two or threetraits do you think that
champions share?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
dedication um positivity and a good work ethic
yeah and being coachable?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
yes, I would agree.
Coachable is is big.
Do you?
Do you get a lot of coaching?
Do you at swim back?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
um, I do, we do.
We always have on deck coaches?
And um, I have been known toask like, hey, can you look at
this freestyle because it feelsfunky, or hey, I'm trying to
figure out this.
Um, for example, when I firststarted back, I did not know
that we could do a dolphin kickin our pullouts.
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So I went to the best brushstriker on our team and I said,
hey, when do I do this and howdo I do it?
And he showed me.
And you know, I'm not a, I'mnot one who's afraid to ask for
feedback or help or, you know,just criticism constructively.
Yeah so, and I also know myselfwell enough that I have a
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personal trainer that I go to,because I am not going to go to
the gym and lift weights afterwork by myself.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's great.
That's great Well, so how hasSwimMac Masters shaped your
swimming?
And tell us a little bit aboutthat, because it sounds like
it's a really great family, andwhat makes it feel like a family
?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I've met some of my best friends at Swimac.
These are folks that I would doanything for.
They would do anything for me.
Like I said, we check in oneach other all the time and you
know, just recently I had, youknow, my at my mom's funeral.
I had basically an entire pewfull of swim back family.
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Um, and you know that was thatwas really touching and really
cool.
Um, because it's a Saturdaymorning and you know they'd
already been to swim practiceand we're probably hungry.
Um, you know, I had one of myfriends drive over from Georgia
to attend and, um, she's Clemsongrad and wore garnet to my
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mom's funeral, which was verytouching.
Um, you know it's just.
You know it's about thecompetition, but it's about the
trips.
We go on to the competitions,like going to swim meets is
almost like going on a girl'strip or a team trip.
Um, for example, my very firstmeet back was a short course
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meters meet at the university ofSouth Carolina and I was like
I'd only been swimming for sixweeks.
I was like, well, I know I'mnot going to swim, well, because
it's six weeks, but it's shortcourse meters and I don't have
any short course meters time, soI'm not going to get upset
about my times.
And um, you know, we had ourswim back team there.
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We had a couple of um, allother USC alumni swim and it was
just like a big girls trip.
You know, it was very fun.
Um, you know we've been todifferent places, uh, california
, texas, virginia, um, and it'smore the swimming.
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The competition is fun, butit's more about the memories
made, like joking around in thestands or going out to dinner or
, you know, just messing around.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So, yeah, yeah, that's.
That's great, that's reallyawesome.
So second to last question soyou're the chair of the North
Carolina Masters Swimming.
What do you kind of hope toaccomplish in that leadership
role?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That is a good question.
I'm still trying to figure thisout.
I'm still trying to figure thisrole out.
Like mentioned before, you know, usms Masters Nationals are in
Greensboro in 2026.
Huge spotlight for NorthCarolina Masters swimming.
I and my co-board members rightnow are working on just getting
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all of our teams engaged.
More participation in oursocial media, more participation
in local and postal events,cause we really do want to shine
bright when we host nationalsnext year.
That's my main goal.
My other goal is to, you know,just listen to the membership.
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Figure out what do they wantfrom a board.
Promote our meets.
We have a couple of big meets,but then we have some smaller
meets that aren't as wellattended, so I'd like to get
those that attendance up.
We have an open water swimcoming up that I don't know if a
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lot of people are doing.
Side note, I do not swim openwater, but I will support it all
day long.
So, yeah, those are just acouple of the goals I have and
just to learn more about USMSand um, how we can give back to
the membership.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay, cool.
So, um, last question before wedo our sprinter round is um
what have we not covered?
Or I've not asked you that youwould like to share with our
listeners.
If anything doesn't have to beanything but I can't really
think of anything.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Um, I mean, if you know, if your listeners have any
other questions, they can reachout to me, because I'm an open
book, so I will.
I will talk to anybody aboutswimming all day long, and they
can.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
They can find you through the uh dot, uh usms
emails on us master swimming,right, yeah, yeah, all right.
Are you ready for the sprinterround?
It's just some questions, not asprinter.
Let's go, but it's supposed tobe one or two word answers, just
really quick.
Favorite sandwich turkey.
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What do you own that you shouldthrow out clothes?
Scariest animal raccoonscelebrity you would most like to
meet taylor taylor Hardestswimming event in the pool.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
For me hardest swimming event.
Okay For you.
For you, sarah, that I swim orthat I've never swum.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, maybe that you've attempted and failed.
Yeah, just don't overthink it.
Don't overthink it.
I'm never doing a 200 fly.
Okay, I would agree with that.
One Favorite movie BreakfastClub.
Favorite smell Smell, smell.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Chlorine Chlorine.
Okay chlorine, chlorine, okayum.
Do you make your bed everymorning?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
no, because my husband's still in it when I get
up.
Yeah, kickboard or no,kickboard, kickboard.
Uh, if you had to listen to onesong for the rest of your life,
what would it be?
Superman by REM, okay, windowor aisle, aisle.
Five adjectives to active influx still figuring it out and
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happy nice, all right.
Final question is when you divein the water, what word comes
to mind?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Did my goggles stay on?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Cold.
That's a good one.
Cold is a good one.
All right, very good.
Sarah, thank you so much forspending this time with me today
.
It was awesome to catch up withyou and thank you for the
opportunity.
Yes, awesome.
Hello friends, welcome to the Champions Mojo
podcast, where we celebrate theextraordinary stories of adult
athletes who inspire us withtheir passion, comebacks and
stories we can all relate to.
Today's guest is incrediblyspecial to me, not just because
of her impressive swimmingaccomplishments, but because I
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had the privilege of coachingher at the University of South
Carolina.
Because I had the privilege ofcoaching her at the University
of South Carolina yes, I'mtalking about Sarah Dunn, a
state national and world recordbreaker in US master swimming.
She's also a national championand an All-American and one of
the fiercest competitors andtremendous inspirations to me
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and others.
Sarah grew up in Beaver Creek,ohio, and I knew her as Sarah
Henninger.
She dove into summer league atage eight and never looked back.
Her early talent and work ethictook her to the Ohio State High
School Championships threetimes, five trips to YMCA
Nationals and ultimately intoher high school's Hall of Fame.
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At the University of SouthCarolina she became a four-time
NCAA All-American, landed on theSEC academic honor roll and was
named female student athlete ofthe year in 1995.
As her coach, I got to witnessfirsthand her incredible drive,
leadership and heart in and outof the pool.
After college, sarah steppedaway from swimming, but life had
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other plans.
In 2015, an injury and apersistent friend led her back
to the water.
She joined SwimMac Masters andfound a new kind of team, one
that felt like a family.
Since then, she's shatteredrecords, embraced the master
swimming lifestyle and steppedup as a leader in the sport,
recently becoming the chair ofthe North Carolina Master
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Swimming.
Sarah's story is one oflifelong passion, comeback,
strength and giving back.
I'm so proud of the swimmer andwoman she is today.
Sarah, welcome to ChampionsMojo.
Thank you, kelly, that's sokind.
Well, you know you and I have ahistory, so it's really great to
catch up with you.
And so, even though we've seeeach other let's say
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infrequently, but enough to havestayed in touch over the years
at master's meets Tell me thestory of what life had other
plans like what was the injuryand what brought you back to
swimming in 2015?
I don't even know that story.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Okay.
So it started out.
You know everybody's workingout.
I was working out at the gymrunning, doing strength training
, and I was working out with oneof my friends one morning at
the Y and was doing step ups onthe box and came down and landed
wrong on my ankle and it poppedand that was the end of any
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sort of land cardio for me.
Um, that was almost 10 yearsago.
Um ended up going to the ER thatmorning.
They weren't sure if it was asprain or a break.
Um made it to work by 8 30 andtwo days later found out it was
just a really bad strain, so gotto wear everybody's favorite
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boot for about six weeks andthen did the pt and then decided
um, my friend's been reallybugging me to start swimming
again and now seems like a goodtime as any and I went to my
first practice.
Had I been told that my firstpractice was going to be long
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course, I probably would nothave shown up.
But here we were long coursepractice in the middle of
October and I said I'm here, I'mgoing to do it, and haven't
looked back, so it's been great.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
So at that point you were out of the water, probably
like 20 years, 20 years of likeno swimming whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I dabbled a little bit in 2004.
But when I say a little bit, Imean a very little bit, like
maybe six months.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So in looking in looking at your master swimming
record, I noticed that you knowyou came back in 2015 and you
earned all American honors,which, for anybody that doesn't
know what that is, that meansthe number one time and at least
one event in the entire country.
You have never missed earning anumber one spot in your event
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or events since you came back in2016.
So almost 10 straight years.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Almost that streak's going to be broken this year,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Are you sure, oh?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
yeah, yes, okay, well , it was a pretty long streak.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I think that's pretty impressive to come out of that,
but it sounds like you werestaying in shape in other ways.
You came back from injury.
Do you have any other comebackstories?
Just either in your life or inum your swimming um, well, I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm currently on a comeback, I guess.
Um, I was out most of last yearwith a shoulder injury, which
is how I know the all is broken,um, so I've been working
towards getting back into that.
And then, um, uh, my mom passedaway in March so I've been
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taking some time away from thepool to deal with that.
Um, but yeah, it's, you know,the pool has always had.
The pool has shown me latelythat that is where I'm going to
find my solace.
So not just the water, but thefriends who I'm surrounded with
and who are like, hey, are youcoming to practice today?
We miss you.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So, yeah, in any sport or any coffee group or
bowling group that you know,that group that misses you when
you don't show up is so they say.
That's so essential to thehealth and well being that we
have when, in every area of ourlife and certainly as we get
older.
So, Sarah, I am going to tellyou a little story that I
remember about you.
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Oh gosh, I know.
The thing that I remember iswhat an incredible mindset you
had, and I imagine you obviouslystill have it.
But talking about mindset, whenI was the coach there at South
Carolina, any recruit that cameto campus I would have a
one-on-one and learn a littlebit more without the crowds of
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other team members around.
And one of the questions that Iwould ask, which was kind of a
vetting question, was let'simagine that you are in the
final of the NCAA championshipsand you're in the.
You're in the final heat,you're in the top eight and you
have a lane.
You can imagine, whatever laneyou're in, what is going through
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your mind when you're therebehind the blocks.
And I recall what you said Doyou, do you recall that?
That question?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I don't recall, but I I know what you have told me I
was gonna win, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And and what was so different about you, um, with
answering that question?
And it was?
It was a pretty quick answer.
It wasn't like you thoughtabout.
You know what does she want tohear?
And the reason that I I feellike it was very authentic and
genuine was that you would beamazed at the number of recruits
that came into that office andthen answered that question with
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, oh my gosh, what am I doing inthe final?
Or even something like, oh, Iwould never make the final of
the NCAA, you know.
So where do you think that thattough mindset came from?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I think I definitely got a lot of like can-do
attitude and can do positivity.
For my mom and dad, you know,there wasn't anything that they
ever held us back from trying.
Of course, I was only ever goodat one thing.
I also think that because I'm,as you know, a straight up
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brushstroker, I always had towork harder in practice to keep
up with the normal grinded outyardage, freestyle IM stuff.
So, and like you said, if youhave a lane, you have a chance,
and I've always believed that.
My mom used to love to say youknow, cheering for the Gamecocks
is very difficult, um, as afootball team and she was like,
on any given Saturday, anythingcan happen.
If you have a lane, anythingcan happen.
Um.
So, yeah, I, just withouthaving a lot of physical
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experience and physicalbackground like I didn't really
lift weights until I went tocollege is my mind, was my best
asset, besides my physicalability to swim, just
breaststroke.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah.
So, um, if you were to likelook back on your entire life,
what would you say?
That that mindset that you youhave has helped you through some
other stuff Like what, what doyou?
How do you apply that to yourlife?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Mm.
Hmm, I'm thinking.
I mean, first of all, first andforemost, it helped me get
through a divorce, you know,three years into a marriage that
you know did not end well.
And I was like, ok, this iswhere we are, let's move on to
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the next.
You know, I spent some time.
I had to move back in with mymom and dad when I was 30, which
no 30 year old wants to do.
But you know, I'm veryfortunate that I was able to do
that.
I was like, okay, next step goget a job.
Let's go get a job.
And I got an interview with mycurrent employer and I've been
there for 23 years and it's just.
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You know, I started out indifferent positions in my
company and I wanted to move up.
So I was like, okay, what do Ineed to do to get the attention?
I need to move up?
How can I help?
What can I learn?
And I feel like that's justalways been my kind of mindset,
like I want to keep learning newthings and that cause I know
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that's going to help me achievemy goals.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So what would be something new that you've
learned, that you just neverthought you would learn or do?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I haven't actually learned, mastered it.
I've spent a lot of timedeveloping a new hobby, which is
crocheting, which is verygrandma but very relaxing, keeps
my hands busy, keeps my mindbusy, you know, so that I don't
drift off into places of doom.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah yeah.
Well, that's great to know thatsomebody who has a tough mindset
does have the ability to driftoff into places of doom you know
, I mean, I find that that'skind of a commonality, that you
know that really, what makes adifference in somebody who
succeeds and somebody whodoesn't is we all can drift off
to places of doom, right.
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I mean, it's just kind of Ithink that's the way our minds
are built to protect us fromthings.
So what, what are some of thethings that besides crocheting,
are there things that you say orthings that you do that help
you keep your mind on track?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I have a couple of bracelets that I've made and
wear.
One says make good choices,just to remind me to choose the
right things, and one says wedon't do that anymore, or the
initials WDDTA, just to remindmyself, like you used to do,
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that that was a bad thing.
We don't do that anymore.
They're just kind of personalto me, like reminders that I
like to wear on my wrist toremind keep my mindset right.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh my gosh, I love that.
I think that's awesome.
That is really, really great.
I mean, making good choices issuch a great thing.
So and it sounds like you are abig planner you know you've.
You've planned your, your, yourgoals for your 23 year career.
You wanted to take this step,take that step.
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You said now one of the thingsthat you and I talked about a
little bit before we startedrecording not today, but on
another day um it, you knowwe're, we're recording this in
late May and you are alreadyplanning for the 2026 spring
nationals, which is almost ayear away.
Yes, so tell us, like you know,how you can focus on that.
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You know when you're, whenyou're this far out, walk us
through that long term trainingand how you're going to stay
focused over the long haul.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Well, first of all, I'm I'm recommitting to my
teammates because the meet is inGreensboro and we are going to
bring a large contingent fromNorth Carolina and from SwimMac.
I'm recommitting to myself andto my teammates to get back on
track with my workouts.
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That's first and foremost.
And then start dialing in thenutrition.
There was a lot of emotionalsupport eating the last couple
months, so we're dialing thatback.
And then just smaller goals,like let's go to this meet,
let's go to another meet Ihaven't planned out the meet yet
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that I'm going to, but thoseare in the works.
And then one of my favoritethings to do is to put my goal
times on my lock screen on myphone so that I'm always looking
.
You know you're always lookingat your phone and you see those
times.
You're like, okay, this is whyI need to do this, this is why
I'm doing that, and just kind ofkeep those in the forefront.
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I haven't again decided whatthose goals are going to be,
cause I'm kind of I'm not movingup into a new age group or
anything.
So and I think Erica set somereally fast records the 50 and
the 100 brushstroke.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
So these are going to be times just for myself, uh,
things that I want to achieve,so yeah, yeah, I like that and
that's um erica braun who's beenon the show and we we have a
maria and I uh, when maria waswith me as a co-host, we always
kind of joked.
Whenever we could say ericabraun's name, we did.
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It's just it's just kind of afun buzzword yeah it's great
that you mentioned erica yeahyeah, she's a real, real
champion.
So how do you define success inmaster swimming for you?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
one of the things that I had to learn, um, when I
came back to master swimming, umand it took me a while to
figure this out is I am honestlynever going to be as fast as I
was when I was in college, but Ican be better than I was the
day before.
So every day at practice I tryto be better than I was the day
before.
Um, so that's kind of how Idefine success.
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Um, as far as my times go, Ithink I just need to, you know,
get a meter to win, since it'sbeen a while.
I mean, I did swim in March but, um, that was very emotional
and very rough Um, so I need toget a couple of meets in after
I've been training for a littlebit and then kind of go from
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there.
So what my goals are going tobe like, because I want to set a
high, but attainable goals.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So the the meat that was emotional was that around
the loss of your mom.
It was three weeks after shepassed away, but you still swam
in the meat I did um, there werea couple of reasons why I
wanted to swim in that meet.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Uh, first of all, it was, um, practically our North
Carolina board meeting, where Iwas going to be elected into the
chair position, so I thought itwas important to be there for
that, and I had entered the meetbefore my mom passed and I know
that she would have wanted meto swim.
So one of the things my momloved was watching me swim and
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she, she loved watching masterswimming because, like you know,
you could live stream nationalsand she'd always be like what
heat lane are you in, what heatlane are you in?
And I'm like, okay, I'm in thisheat, I'm in this lane, and
remember, I'm wearing the redcap, because not a lot of people
wear red caps, and that was soshe could see me when she was
watching, because, you know,sometimes it gets to be a little
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flurry of activity in the pool.
Um, so, yeah, so I, I, I did itfor her.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So yeah, that's, that's beautiful and, yeah, that
is one of the the great thingsabout masters nationals is it
does stream.
So, sarah, the idea that, yes,we've all had our faster days.
What advice would you give toswimmers that think they're past
their prime and they'rehesitant to really return to
competition because they knowthey're going to be slower?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think you have to erase those times from your mind
.
It's more important to berealistic.
Remember that you're doingsomething now that's good for
your body, that's good for yourmind, you're going to have fun
with your teammates, and justconsider these your new era of
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times.
Like, okay, that was not mybest college time but or my best
personal time, but this is mybest master's time and I'm
really proud of that.
So it does.
It can take a hot minute to getyour mind wrapped around that,
though I understand it took me awhile.
Like, why should I do this?
I'm not going to be fast, butI'm not a fast 22 year old Sarah
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, but I can be a fast 52 yearold Sarah.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, and I think that you know, once you kind of
just let go of that and yourealize, like masters running or
other masters events, that youknow you're only competing
against people your age.
So it's not like you're goingto even be competing against any
age 22, sarah or Susan oranybody.
You're going to be competingagainst other women that are
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your age or other men that areyour age, and that I love the
fact that Masters just rankseverybody.
So you can see.
You know I thought I reallysucked, but hey I'm.
I'm 20th out of 600 peoplewho've ever swum in all of
history.
Like Master Swimming hasamazing stats.
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So you can see Huge database,huge database.
Then when you compare thoserankings, you age up and you're
like whoa, I went from being40th in that top of my age group
to being third in the nextgroup, right right yeah, master
Sw, swimming where aging up is agood thing it.
Yeah, that's one of the beauty,beauties of it, sarah.
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What kind of rituals orroutines do you think have
helped you just be successfuloverall in life?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
oh, um, paying attention to my body, um, I know
that's not really a ritual orroutine, but it's just.
You know, if something hurts,I'm going to address it.
Of course, getting enough sleep, which I have struggled with
the last few years, but I founda program now that's working for
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me, that's helping me sleepbetter.
I think, honestly, justmaintaining a routine,
maintaining a schedule, nomatter what it is like.
You know, I swim Sunday,Tuesday, thursday, saturday, I
lift weights on Monday, andWednesday, friday, is my rest
day.
That is my routine.
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It works for me.
You know, would I love to be oneof those people who, could, you
know, go swim in the morningand then come home and sit in a
sauna or do a cold plunge orrelax with my coffee outside
while I journal.
Yes, I would love that.
That's not my life right now.
I'm making my life right nowwork for me, and I think that's
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part of it too, like fittingyour passions and your hobbies
and your self-care because,let's face it, swimming is a
form of self-care, exercising isa form of self-care Into your
professional life is importantfor everyone to do.
There's you can have excuses,but you can find your way around
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those excuses, like there'sprobably 40 of us at least that
get up in the morning to swim at515.
And that's just at my poolalone.
I know there's people all overthe country that do that.
You can fit it in in thepockets of your your life if
it's important to you.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, absolutely.
Do you go to bed early?
I do, yeah, you're probablypretty exhausted and sleeping
well.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So if you could go back to your college age self
and give yourself one piece ofadvice, what would it be that
you know now?
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Don't stop swimming.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Oh, I love it.
Wow, darn it Don't ever stopswimming.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, don't stop.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I preach that all the time.
I've said this maybe 10 timesnow on this podcast, but I just
hate it when the youngins postI'm retiring from swimming.
I just wish they'd say I'mpushing pause, I'm taking a
break, you know, I'm just, I'mgoing to take some time off.
But the idea that swimming is alifelong sport you know, it's
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just you, just really.
I even feel like if, what areyour thoughts on this?
That if somebody got out ofcollege and they just you know
they were a good swimmer, oreven high school, and they just
swam literally once a week,maybe twice a week, just get in
there and don't lose the feelfor the water, just have fun,
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dolphin dive and get some, youknow, do a few things, that that
it would go a long way.
I mean, sure, take a month offof two months off, six months
off, but that if they juststayed in touch with the water a
little bit not to get burnedout, that it would make a huge
difference.
I agree, I agree.
Don't take 20 years.
Yeah, don't take 20 years.
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I mean I've even taken um, I'veprobably only taken two or
three years off per age group,but those two or three years
that I take off are so hard tocome back from and this is the
only age group I've ever swumall the years through the age
group.
So we'll see what happens?
I've never, ever.
I only swim at the bottom ofthe age group and then I take
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like three years off, so I feellike that's a trend.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, it's totally been a people that do that.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, it's a total pattern with a lot of people,
but you know I'm going to try itand see how.
You know I'm going to, you know, try to use my own advice and
see how that works.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I mean why not?
What do you have to lose?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Right, yeah, I just usually kind of just decide to
do other things, but um, I'mgonna try it.
So, um, now, what two or threetraits do you think that
champions share?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
dedication um positivity and a good work ethic
yeah and being coachable?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
yes, I would agree.
Coachable is is big.
Do you?
Do you get a lot of coaching?
Do you at swim back?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
um, I do, we do.
We always have on deck coaches?
And um, I have been known toask like, hey, can you look at
this freestyle because it feelsfunky, or hey, I'm trying to
figure out this.
Um, for example, when I firststarted back, I did not know
that we could do a dolphin kickin our pullouts.
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So I went to the best brushstriker on our team and I said,
hey, when do I do this and howdo I do it?
And he showed me.
And you know, I'm not a, I'mnot one who's afraid to ask for
feedback or help or, you know,just criticism constructively.
Yeah so, and I also know myselfwell enough that I have a
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personal trainer that I go to,because I am not going to go to
the gym and lift weights afterwork by myself.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
That's great.
That's great Well, so how hasSwimMac Masters shaped your
swimming?
And tell us a little bit aboutthat, because it sounds like
it's a really great family, andwhat makes it feel like a family
?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
I've met some of my best friends at Swimac.
These are folks that I would doanything for.
They would do anything for me.
Like I said, we check in oneach other all the time and you
know, just recently I had, youknow, my at my mom's funeral.
I had basically an entire pewfull of swim back family.
(25:33):
Um, and you know that was thatwas really touching and really
cool.
Um, because it's a Saturdaymorning and you know they'd
already been to swim practiceand we're probably hungry.
Um, you know, I had one of myfriends drive over from Georgia
to attend and, um, she's Clemsongrad and wore garnet to my
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mom's funeral, which was verytouching.
Um, you know it's just.
You know it's about thecompetition, but it's about the
trips.
We go on to the competitions,like going to swim meets is
almost like going on a girl'strip or a team trip.
Um, for example, my very firstmeet back was a short course
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meters meet at the university ofSouth Carolina and I was like
I'd only been swimming for sixweeks.
I was like, well, I know I'mnot going to swim, well, because
it's six weeks, but it's shortcourse meters and I don't have
any short course meters time, soI'm not going to get upset
about my times.
And um, you know, we had ourswim back team there.
(26:41):
We had a couple of um, allother USC alumni swim and it was
just like a big girls trip.
You know, it was very fun.
Um, you know we've been todifferent places, uh, california
, texas, virginia, um, and it'smore the swimming.
(27:02):
The competition is fun, butit's more about the memories
made, like joking around in thestands or going out to dinner or
, you know, just messing around.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So, yeah, yeah, that's.
That's great, that's reallyawesome.
So second to last question soyou're the chair of the North
Carolina Masters Swimming.
What do you kind of hope toaccomplish in that leadership
role?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That is a good question.
I'm still trying to figure thisout.
I'm still trying to figure thisrole out.
Like mentioned before, you know, usms Masters Nationals are in
Greensboro in 2026.
Huge spotlight for NorthCarolina Masters swimming.
I and my co-board members rightnow are working on just getting
(27:56):
all of our teams engaged.
More participation in oursocial media, more participation
in local and postal events,cause we really do want to shine
bright when we host nationalsnext year.
That's my main goal.
My other goal is to, you know,just listen to the membership.
(28:20):
Figure out what do they wantfrom a board.
Promote our meets.
We have a couple of big meets,but then we have some smaller
meets that aren't as wellattended, so I'd like to get
those that attendance up.
We have an open water swimcoming up that I don't know if a
(28:40):
lot of people are doing.
Side note, I do not swim openwater, but I will support it all
day long.
So, yeah, those are just acouple of the goals I have and
just to learn more about USMSand um, how we can give back to
the membership.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Okay, cool.
So, um, last question before wedo our sprinter round is um
what have we not covered?
Or I've not asked you that youwould like to share with our
listeners.
If anything doesn't have to beanything but I can't really
think of anything.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Um, I mean, if you know, if your listeners have any
other questions, they can reachout to me, because I'm an open
book, so I will.
I will talk to anybody aboutswimming all day long, and they
can.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
They can find you through the uh dot, uh usms
emails on us master swimming,right, yeah, yeah, all right.
Are you ready for the sprinterround?
It's just some questions, not asprinter.
Let's go, but it's supposed tobe one or two word answers, just
really quick.
Favorite sandwich turkey.
(29:57):
What do you own that you shouldthrow out clothes?
Scariest animal raccoonscelebrity you would most like to
meet taylor taylor Hardestswimming event in the pool.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
For me hardest swimming event.
Okay For you.
For you, sarah, that I swim orthat I've never swum.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, maybe that you've attempted and failed.
Yeah, just don't overthink it.
Don't overthink it.
I'm never doing a 200 fly.
Okay, I would agree with that.
One Favorite movie BreakfastClub.
Favorite smell Smell, smell.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Chlorine Chlorine.
Okay chlorine, chlorine, okayum.
Do you make your bed everymorning?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
no, because my husband's still in it when I get
up.
Yeah, kickboard or no,kickboard, kickboard.
Uh, if you had to listen to onesong for the rest of your life,
what would it be?
Superman by REM, okay, windowor aisle, aisle.
Five adjectives to active influx still figuring it out and
(31:46):
happy nice, all right.
Final question is when you divein the water, what word comes
to mind?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Did my goggles stay on?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Cold.
That's a good one.
Cold is a good one.
All right, very good.
Sarah, thank you so much forspending this time with me today
.
It was awesome to catch up withyou and thank you for the
opportunity.
Yes, awesome.
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