Analyzing preseason game number 3 - Cleveland Browns Daily - 8.25.25 - Cleveland Browns Podcast Network

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I it's you Live on a Monday edition of Cleveland
Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. That's the great Z.
And the preseason is.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Done, Thank goodness.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's long.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
It is long long.

Speaker 4 (00:54):
How We're I gonna get to fifty three tomorrow and
we are on to the regular season and it is
going to be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's yeah, it's interesting. I've been kind of on the
soapbox about how long all of this is, and it
really is. If you go back to July eighteenth and
to think we're still that this isn't game week, that
next week is game week. But a lot had to
get done. We've already had a bunch of cuts yesterday.
Everybody's got to get to them fifty three by tomorrow
at four o'clock. In the meantime, you had the last

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weekend of play. We've had news in the NFL today
in terms of hold ends getting signed. McLaurin got his extension.
So this is going to be a busy couple of
days and then it's going to be a little bit
of a respite.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
This is kind of that long weekend. And so just
to give you an idea of what the week will
look like around here, meetings and workouts today, Tuesday at
three o'clock practice, the deadline is at four o'clock. And
then Wednesday at two thirty practice you'll have some waiver claims,
those type of things. Practice squad can be put together
at that point. Thursday is noon, so let's get out

(01:56):
of jail free card. That's Thursday, you're gone. You do
a quick practice at New and then you're out of town.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You're off Friday through Sunday. So this is always one
of my favorite weekends because a lot of the NFL
players go watch Big State.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Uh yeah, go watch the Alma Ma Big games this weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It's it's the best week one opener ever, not just
Ohio State, Texas, but just ever. There's a game in
every window that is awesome. Really, no, there's there's not
a single off window. If you if you're interested in
the college football game this weekend, so yeah, it's the
opportunity to do that and then we'll reconvene on Monday
and then it's onto the Bengals. So uh, let's let's

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do preseason game number three, shall we?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Let's do it the.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
How how was it? How did one o'clock at the
stadium sit? I mean, I think they're awkward, these one
o'clock Saturday games. They see they're awkward. To me, it
felt like it felt like Sunday.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, no, I didn't think it was awkward at all.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
How was the crowd.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Good?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Good?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
No, I mean it's not going to be full, It's
not like but there was. There's certainly some some energy
there and some some juice, and yeah, it was fun.
To me, it felt that just felt like a normal game.
So I from that standpoint, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Like felt like a normal Sunday one o'clocker.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, I felt like normal Sunday. We're going and getting ready.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
And I think that for the Browns, you know, what
you wanted out of that you got And I think
that's what was so important about it is that you
wanted to see, you know, your offense first, your starters
get some work, first team offense, first team defense, and
not complete first team offense or first team defense, but

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you want to see them get some work.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And you got it, and you got work.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
That was Frankly, that was great because after the initial
three and out you go get a good, complimentary football
period where Bjorkez hits an unreal punt that when seventy
six the air and bounces at the one and spins
back like it's a wedge off of a tour pro.
Then you get the defense takes him back four yards

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to the one when they actually have to get you
the ball back. You get a punt and a nicer
turn from DeAndre Carter who continues to look good and
picked up you know, ten plus yards on every return,
and then you make the most of it and you
capitalize on the drive where you get Joe Flacco hitting
Harold Fannin for the touchdown.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
And so I thought that was that was great.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Flacco finishes the day what nine for ten seventy one
yards and a touchdown, beautiful efficient. He saw a little
bit from Dylan Samson, he saw a little bit from
Jerome fod Chief looked good. Judy was only in on
the first sequence. You know, probably should have come up
with that one ball, but you're not worried about him.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
So good. It was good work.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
And then defensively, here's what the Rams did on their
first four possessions of this game. Three plays four yards,
three plays negative four yards, six places twenty three yards,
five place twenty five yards.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Punt punt, punt punt. Our starting defense was unbelievable. Oh no,
it's believable. Well, it is quite believable.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
It should we played Dresser win.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
I mean, like, well we had there, So they're just like,
it doesn't it's every game, every joint is our defensive line.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Is it should look that way against that.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah, of course, I said, so you wanted to see.
But they're just in terms of there was It's not
like Miles. So we're just so deep on that line
right now. Alex Wright is playing so well. You've got
Cam Thomas who continues to play with Isaiah Maguire was everywhere,
and apparently the gesture that he made not good. But
our guy Aiden Huntington I didn't see it. He got
like a fifteen yard penalty for that. Wiping your nose

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is an is an unapproved is a band move now,
I supposely it's got gang ties anyway, me neither, although
it was explained to us, yeah that just the line
looked so good. Carson Swessinger is an absolute beast. He
is everywhere at all times. Yeah, so they look at it. Listen,

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the Rams didn't play a real game, So what you
wanted to see in this was, you know, guys competing
and you get into the twos, you know, and the
only you're unhappy about what happened with Ethan Posick and
hopefully he'll be okay. It's possible according to coach that
he'd be ready to go for you know, week one.
But Luke Whipler stepped in nice dowand looks excellent, which
is what you needed. You wanted to see a good
game from Dewan there, and then you get it's Dylan Gabriel,

(06:18):
and Dylan Gabriel comes in twelve of nineteen, one hundred
and twenty nine yards a touchdown rating of one hundred
on that two minute drill. Eleven passes nine for eleven
on the drive, including on the third down to Jamari
Thrash on that corner. Rodge just an absolutely beautiful beautiful
ball and then he finds Gage Larva Dan for the touchdown.
He goes eleven plays, eighty six yards in a minute

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thirty eight and it's all him, smart, quick game. They're
a couple worried. Look here left boom boom, third proaggression,
come back to the middle, got it Den.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
He was excellent and that was great. Great to see
for me.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I thought, I thought, it's two starts in a row
for him, or two play two games in a row
for him. Obviously the mistake on the interception, but learn
from it, cleaned it up. When I watch him play,
I see someone who to me, if something were to
happen to Joe, he could run the full compliment of
the offense. Yes right away. Yes, that's what it looks
like to me. I don't see anything where it doesn't

(07:12):
look ready to go professional all of it. Like he
just he looks like he has taken it all in
that he is. He's trusts where players are going to be,
throws to pockets, to windows. He just looks like a
pro quarterback. To me, he looked very very good two
weeks at two outings in a row that he looked.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Very very good. And he can handle it on.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
What I liked is that intermediate game ten to nineteen
yards ten for the whole preseason, ten of thirteen for
one hundred and fifty one yards. It's eleven point six
yards in attempt, one hundred and fourteen point six rating.
The other thing that I like is just you know,
it's the it's the efficiency with which he is throwing
the football. His time to throw is very, very quick,
and so he is able to combat it.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
One of the things you look at is, you know,
he's able to get the ball out so quickly that
it helps him keep him clean. He gets the ball
out on average two point four to one seconds. Overall
for the whole thing, it was two point six seven,
but I'm talking from a clean pocket beating pressure two
point four one to six seconds.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
He actually had more quick pressures against him as a
percentage this preseason than should do or did, and it
doesn't affect him as much because he's so quick to
get that football out. Also, against the Blitz, this is
something you like see from a rookie quarterback. Against the Blitz,
he was effective now nine of eleven for one hundred
and one yards nine point two yards per attempt.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So again, that's very good. But I think we just
saw some very good throws.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Operates understands it, sees it, knows what his reads are,
keeps his feet in line with it, so they can
be a quick trigger when he sees it. But they
talk about a preseason where and this is basically a
full games where the stats twenty five of thirty seven
sixty seven point six percent completions, two hundred and seventy
two yards, seven point four in attempt touchdown. Obviously the
bad pick in Philly, which there's a lot that went

(08:53):
into it, but ultimately he should have dirted that ball.
And so yeah, very impressed, very impressed with Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
And I think he's a point guard.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
But that's what he's right, it's everything that but that's
what you need in this offense. That's why brock Party
and to a tongue of Ailoa, now to a tongue
of I Low was regarded much more highly than Dylan
Gabriel was a first round pick. Brock Party was mister irrelevant.
So but in this type of an offense, Kirk Cousins
was a fourth round pick. In this type of an offense,
if you can understand what you're seeing and be quick

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and decisive and accurate and know what they set plays
up so that you're reading a particular thing and if
they go here, the ball goes there. If you can
do that, you can be effective. Dylan Gabriel, there's no
doubt in my mind can do that very, very effectively.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
He's incredibly I mean, he's played a lot of football.
He played six years of college and you see it.
You mentioned how he can go, how he goes from
one to the next to the next, the way he
flips his hips so quickly to get to the throwing
angles that he needs because with his height disadvantage, and

(09:53):
Kevin said, in the process it never showed up on tape,
and we were concerned about a little bit in camp
because sometimes you'd stand behind you you can't even see him.
But the reality is that you have to trust and
you have to be anticipatory. So he clearly trusts what
he sees. So trust is a lot right. You have
to trust the position the coach is putting you in.
You gotta trust what you see. You got to trust
the guy and the other end is going to be
where it's supposed to be and you got to trust

(10:15):
the protection. So those are all of the things that
go into trust for a quarterback. So he clearly trusts
all of it. And because he knows it front and back,
the ball can get out yes without him even seeing it. Yes,
And that's it.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
And from zero to the job people are saying, oh,
he only throws at the outside.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's actually not true.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
From zero to twenty yards middle of the field, he
was thirteen for twenty, thirteen for seventeen. I'm sorry for
one hundred and fifty six yards, thirteen for seventeen for
one hundred and fift six yards middle of the field,
zero to twenty yards in the air, middle of the field.
Now he does have the ten. Some of his misses
under pressure are high. That still gives me concern. But

(10:53):
other than that, I think Dylan Gabriel showed you everything
that you wanted to see. He worked both the left
and the right side equally. Eight attempts, five of eight
thrown out to his left, five of seven thrown to
his right. But he did the majority of his work
in the middle of the field. And that's you know,
rock perty does the majority of work in his middlefield.
That's where you'd be worried about his height, but I'll
tell you thirteen for seventeen for one hundred and fifty

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six yards, it's almost ten yards in an attempt.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
You feel real good about that.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I didn't see the height be an issue in the
two starts.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
No, so very good.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Obviously, still things that he can work on, but Dylan
Gabriel very impressive to start this preseason and you have
to like what you saw.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
A great deal like that. That was really good.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Here's the other thing about him is you know the
first game he was sacked twice. It was not sacked
in this game, and so you're again lesser competition that
other first game was more twos versus shoes.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
There were some guys out there that will be playing
for the Eagles.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
But understood it got the ball out, and I know
it's not a popular mirror, but he was working with
offensive linemen that we're still working in this second half
as well. Three of his five guys at one point
or the same guys that are there in the second half.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
So he understood, let the way, well, we don't want
to do that. Run a book.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
And then obviously for Shad Door, this was as bad
as as it was.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
It was bad. It was just bad. Didn't see it.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Process was slow, drifting back, taking horrible sacks all Whereas
in Carolina you saw a lot of things, with the
exception of the two plays where he ran around, which
he did here and didn't get away with it, you
saw a confirmation of a lot of things you liked
on tape, and then in this game you saw a
lot of things on tape in college that you did
not like just manifest themselves massively and repeatedly, and people

(12:38):
are saying, oh, you didn't have.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
He had tons of quick game options.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I mean, you go empty, it's a lock that two
or three of those routes are gonna be quick game.
He just wasn't seeing it. He had plenty of guys open.
Did he have great protection. No, But as I said,
Dylan actually face a higher percentage of quick pressure than
Chador did.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
It just was this was just this was it was
not good.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
He looked like someone who hasn't worked a lot since
the Carolina game. And the reality is you have an
injury there in the Philly week and then now all
of a sudden, we're like in game week, you know,
and we're trying to you gotta get Joe a bunch
of reps, and you just don't have a lot of time. Obviously,
we don't have access to what happens during practice, in
the in the week leading up to this game, and

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and so you just wonder like he just to me
looked like somebody This one felt like what the first
one should have felt like. And but then you remember
in Carolina we had all those quarterback injuries and he
got a lot of work and leading.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Like this, he did get some work there. Yeah, it
just was it was one where it just felt like
in his mind he didn't have the answers to the.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Test, and so it was.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Trying to observe things taking way too long, way too methodical.
I mean his time to throw. I said, Dylan's for
the whole preseason two point six. And this is the
same offense, folks, Contrary to what you may want to believe,
it's it is. It's the same offense. His for the
preseason was three point nine to six.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
So that is a big, big difference.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
That might as well be an hour. Yeah, in an
NFL terms, Yes, one point three seconds in NFL terms
is an attorney forever.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
It's basically one hundred and fifty percent more than even that. Now, again,
there were things in the first one to like. What
you saw was Shador in this game. It was just
tough because we had two hundred. By the way, this
offense as it should have been. Again, Dylan Gabriel and
Joe Flacco combined for two hundred yards passing and two
touchdowns in the first half. Two hund yards passing and
two touchdowns in the first half, yep, and Shador played

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basically ever the entire second half, with the exception he
was sacked five times on eleven dropbacks, should have been six,
got away with one of them, and then obviously Huntley
goes in at the end and they get into field
goal range.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Let's a trust word, Bud, It's the same thing. Doesn't trust.
His eyes didn't feel like he trusted, his line, doesn't trust,
maybe his receivers, doesn't trust himself.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
He wasn't dropping to the right level.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
He's dropping way too deep and then drifting out of that.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Just it wasn't it was.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was hopefully a very good learning experience for him,
and I think it goes to the diligence that needs
to be the relentless pursuit of it. And I said
this at the beginning. He was not asked to do
things at Colorado that he is going to need to
do to be a quarterback in the NFL. And so
that's not on him. No, we've said it for he

(15:35):
has a bigger learning curve. Why people it hasn't been
a fair competition to.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Him that Dylan.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Dylan's been way ahead of him in terms of just
understanding what needs to be I said along, everybody knows,
if you are paying attention, how much I wanted Shure
Sanders at number two.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
He is immensely talented, but there is so much more
than just being able to throw the football where you
want it to playing quarterback in the NFL. And on
this day he reverted to wasn't comfortable, wasn't seeing it,
and just it turned into devolved into bad, bad quarterback
play and something that was untenable. And now people are
saying that why wasn't he out there in the two
minutes raw? I'm gonna give you three reasons, all of

(16:11):
which are logical and true. Kevin One, Kevin's fancy loves
Tyler Huntley knew he was cutting them, wanted to get
him a series that was always kind of in the plans.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I think had it gone if like.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Shador had had some good drives earlier, like in the
middle of the fourth quarter, maybe Huntley would have come
in by them. Number two, It was bad out there,
and so at some point you say, Okay, this isn't
going well.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
We're not learnt gaining anything from this.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, it's making things worse at someone's like somebody who's
at the driving range and they just start smoking balls
and it's going this way and they're like, I'm just
gonna get more and more and swing harder, and yeah,
you end up getting into worse habits.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
That one to me, that second point, that's the one
that it felt like.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
To me and three.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Folks, we have a kicking problem or a competition at
the very least. And I know for a fact it
was very important that the Browns were very hopeful to
be able to get Schmidt a field goal opportunity at
the end of that game, and unfortunately it probably didn't
look like it was going to happen with Shador out there.

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So I think all of those things add up, and
guess what, Huntley got them down there. Thank you Rams
for all the penalties. Had a nice pass, nice run,
they get down there and Schmid puts it through. But
d Hops missed two extra points. He's probably missed three.
There was one that they called good that probably wasn't good.
It has been shaky, So I think they wanted to

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think about the pressure in that situation for Schmid. Yeah,
it's a game winning field goal. Okay, that doesn't matter.
It's the preseason. Although you want to win. Their keeping scores,
Kevin's fancy would always say, but like you missed that kick,
you have no chance of being the kicker.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
So that's a big pressure moment anyone out there, and
you put it right down the middle.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
And so I think the Browns have a decision a kicker.
It's going to cost them money, but I think an
I love Dustin Hopkins, great guy. We've had a pleasure
spending a great deal of time with him. But you know,
it's kicking. To me, is is the one thing that's
the most like golf, and sometimes you just kind of
lose your your swing and you start thinking and then
it just becomes very very difficult. And d hop you know,

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as good as he was in twenty three was as
bad relative last year, and you know, to miss two
extra points in the preseason like that is tough. So
I think they've got a they've got a tough one.
And by the way, his short field goal was not
like that would have missed from ten more yards. It's

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snuck inside the right up right.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
That's it's that that that position is so mental. I'll
try some most like a golf it's you're right, yeah,
over the tea and it's standing on the t box
and going I know how to do this. But then
you hit it right a few times you're like, wait,
what was going on?

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Why?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Why? Why is this happening? And then you start thinking
about it. Time you get to a t box instead
of just freeing swinging free and the same thing happens
at this I mean, we've seen it a bunch with
guys who and then sometimes they go somewhere else and
then it works like you just you never know with
that position. But no, that the last part is is
I mean, but everything you said is on point, and

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and the last one is a really really critical part.
And it'll be interesting to see what happens here over
the next day in terms of the here's the here's
the thing too, and you and I have talked about
this a lot through the years. We at the NFL level,
you are you do you don't have You don't have

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the ability to to truly develop the depth of your
roster the way that it that you'd like to. No,
there's not enough time, and you're trying to get starters ready.
You're trying to win games because as Jerry Glanville said,
it's not for long. You keep making you keep making mistakes.
It's not for long you're gonna have your jobs long.
You're just trying to in games. It's it surest way possible,

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and there's not enough time to be work. This isn't
college football. It's not where you have a thousand coaches
and one hundred people on the roster and you got
all off. I mean, like guys at Ohio State, they're
in Columbus all summer. They have Matt drills in February
and a month of practice for spring football, like they
never leave. Like they can grind and grind and be developed.

(20:24):
Here this is professional football. They drafted Dylan in the
third round. They liked him a lot in the process.
They traded up and took him maybe sooner than some
people thought, although probably wouldn't have lasted had they not
done it, so they liked him better in the process.
Once you get into this, though, then it's just about

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may the strong survive yep. And then the cream just
rises to the top the people who can do it.
There's no time to bring people along slowly like they
have to be. So like this idea of whether Dylan
and Shador and Absi on the something we've been talking
about since the summer that you know, four quarterbacks are
very comfortable, it's going to be four, and so there

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you go. The reality is that that Dylan or Shador,
both of them, their development is going to be on them,
in large part because we get into game weeks next week,
we're trying to beat Cincinnati. We don't have time to
go on another field and do that stuff. It's on you, yep.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
The and you wonder if like there should be something
and we've said it many many times, but if there
should be something like in the Premier League or the
big any of the big soccer leagues where you can
take your young guys that aren't necessarily ready to like

(21:47):
be contributors right now and you loan them out to
other places where they can play football, like loan Schadoor
to the CFL or the UFL and let him play,
just play, because there isn't there. The opportunity to develop
does not exist in the season.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
No, no, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
So whatever whatever those guys become this year, from here on,
it's gonna be kind of on them. Yes, what they
what they make at the opportunity and what they do
and the other thing that's hard when you are someone
like Dylan and Shador, who are both kind of faces
of college football over the last couple of years, it's
got to be a hell of an adjustment to go

(22:27):
from everything is done for me to this is what
we do. We need you to get onto speed with this. Yep,
that's a very different headspace. Yeah, here's everything that we
know you do well at Oregon and Colorado, and we're
gonna build the offense around the things you do well.
We're gonna recruit to what you do well. We're gonna
take care of you in terms of reps. We're gonna

(22:48):
make sure you're ready to go to this situation, in
any NFL situation, especially if as long as you're not
a first round pick. Every other NFL situation is now
you're competing and you got four guys who were splitting
reps in time, and it's livelihoods on the line. Yes,
it's a totally different headspace. And if if you're not

(23:08):
ready for it right away, and it's it's got to
be a tremendous adjustment for all those guys when they
come in gotta be.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
You go from also being right the guy to being
a cog in the wheel, like as a backup quarterback.
Your job is going to be to lead the scout
team or to also break down all of a certain
subset of film for your upcoming opponent and make reports
to support the starter. Yeah, you know, you have all
the guys that come in here and it's like you
were a stud here, stud there, and well now you're

(23:35):
you're gonna play special teams and that's the only way
you're going to make this roster. It's just it's a
total change, but it is. It is professional football, This
is the NFL.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
I'm glad we got our guys the time that that
they got and you saw from both of them a
lot of good You saw as well some things that
definitely needed.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
To be improved.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Upon and things that their works in progress shouldr Sanders.
We knew he had a big learning curve. He is
a work in progress and I believe he will be.
He is very talented and with time, with the dedication
all of that, I think he can be a very
successful quarterback in this Weekue, I think shoulder Standers ceiling

(24:20):
is very very high. It's going to take a lot
of work there. I think, like what you're seeing is
between Dylan and him right now, Like Dylan's floor is
so much higher than Shador's. Yeah, currently, and Chador's ceiling
is higher, but there's he's got a long way to
go to get up there. Dylan's probably got a little
bit more of a narrow band, like he's going to
be here. Whereas best case scenario, he can become a

(24:41):
Kirk Cousin's. Worst case scenario, he's probably going to be
like a case Keenum, Yeah, or Colt McCoy, which, by
the way, excellent value from a third round pick. And
I think you should feel very good about where he
is and all of that. Look, this team, that's Joe
Flacco's team, and it's going to be Joe Flacco's team or.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
The foreseeable future.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Now people are well, why would you keep Kenny Pickett?
This is I think number one. They like Kenny Pickett.
Number two. Had Kenny Pickett not gotten hurt, there's probably
a good chance that he's the starting quarterback right now.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
And number three.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
The way those first six games are, if something does
happen to Joe Flack, I don't think you want to
necessarily put a rookie quarterback in there against six teams
that were combined forty games over five hundred.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
No, you and I have been talking about Kenny in
the way that he's been viewed here for months because
it's the truth. I did see Mary Kay write it
over the weekend that hey, this is how this was
gonna go, and it was like, yeah, that is That's
what we've been saying for five months is how it
was gonna go. And then an injury happened, and and
the rest is kind of history on that quarterbacks aside

(25:53):
who stood out for you Saturday? I mean, the Aiden
Huntington moment was awesome. By the way, what Kevin did post.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Cool, I've never seen that. That was where a guy
has been told that he is on the team in
the postgame press or never seen it, awesome, deserving, He's incredible.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I thought guys that stood out to me.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Luke Whippler continues to be incredibly impressive and if we
do need to start him, that's good.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
We'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Jamari Thrash continues to play well. Isaiah Bond the ball
didn't go his way and I'm I think there may
have been some intention to that. But he can run
and chew up space and that was very, very obvious,
and I think he will have some type of a
role going forward.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I think that that was like, Yeah, I think we
just kind of PLoP down in the middle of August
to get a weapon like that.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Yeah, I will say one guy, that was a little
surprising to me that I thought, in this environment, especially
against the level of competition that you were playing, that
Deontay Johnson would have dominated and we did not see that.
So that makes to me his roster spot relative to Gauge,
who had another good game, seems to be a little
bit more perilous defensively. There are just so many people
that you could list here. Devin Bush was everywhere in

(27:03):
this game. He played great Easton Moscarinas Arnold was great.
Aiden Huntington continues to be just unbelievable. Swessengers everywhere, Alex Wright,
Isaiah Maguire. We had a lot of guys who I
just think just played really, really well in this game.
I think cornerback is really interesting. I get I would
have to believe there's at least one, if not more

(27:25):
corner backs out there that are not on our roster
right now that maybe you could we would look at
my Kilton was Kilton by Yeah, Miami's more of a
blitzer and a rundee guy, so I don't know if
he's a man guy that the UFC scheme fit.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
There.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
One guy I do want to point out that I
thought was just a little bit. I really thought we
were going to see a lot more from Joe try
and Shoyinka in this preseason. Like he has not flashed
like the other defensive ends have.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
No, you guys haven't said his name much.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
No, No, he really is not flashed. So that was
that's a little bit surprising to me. I thought Dom
Jones played well. I just take our corner situation. You know,
Mariles harden't got to catch that one. But then again,
that's why they played defense, I suppose. But you want
to see him make sure that he catches that ball. Yeah, Cam,
He and Cam neither one really stood out. I just

(28:12):
think that there's we we're gonna be the defensive line
is gonna be the engine, and we're gonna need that
defensive line to go all year.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
I think they will. Yeah. But yeah, Aiden hunting that
was so fun yesterday and cool.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
We're Jay Aiden Huntington Bankfield and the guy was you know,
just he was runs that like twist there and is
just unbelievable stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
It was really fun to watch him.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
And they had a guy on their team number thirty
four what was his name team.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
The young man that tried to kill Tanner Ingle.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
And that guy it was just like he would go
and put some crazy hit on somebody. Every time it
was Tanner Ingle, Tanner Ingle, Tanner Ingle, and then for
us every time it's like Aiden Huntington, Aid.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
And hunting He was like just a monster monster.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, it was That was a That was a good
job out of Kevin in the in the post GA,
I thought that was very very cool. Those are Hot
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(30:00):
Here's your head coach Kevin Stefanski from his Sunday meeting
with the media.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, like I told you guys yesterday, pleased with the effort,
really please that you get out of there with a win.
I thought the guys understood really from the jump that
it was gonna be a game that we had to
play hard. I thought they did. It was not perfect,
plenty to clean up, which I'm excited about, you know,
with our coaches to get some things cleaned up, but

(30:26):
I thought it was a good finish to that preseason
as a football team, just to make sure that these
guys gave that that type of effort. So really please, Obviously,
now that the cutdown starts to come over the next
couple of days, the toughest part of one of the
tough parts of this business is just that. So we'll

(30:46):
work through that over the next forty eight hours and
then got four good days of work with the team
Monday through Thursday, and then take that break over Labor
Day before we get started the following week versus Cincinnati.
So a lot a lot left to do, a lot
of work to be done, and we're excited to get
to that work. But with that, I'll take any questions.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yeah, Kevin, I have an injury question, but then I
have a follow up after that, if you don't mind.
The first one would be really about both Ethan and Blake.
I mean, obviously I think both guys were headed for
the fifty three. Do you know where they stand? With
their injuries right now.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Yeah, they'll you know, this week and then over the
weekend we'll know more Mary kay how they respond, but
I think both will be potentially out there week one.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Oh okay, all right.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
And then the other thing that I wanted to ask
you is can you address this sort of persistent narrative
that that you're trying to sabotage Shadore Sanders, especially after,
you know, after yesterday and not putting them in for
the two minutes?

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, obviously I don't. I don't concern myself with outside
type of things. But you know, I'm committed to his development,
just like all of our rookies. So we'll continue to
focus on getting our guys better and that's what We'll

(32:15):
stay committed to him. That's what's important to me.

Speaker 10 (32:17):
And did you.

Speaker 8 (32:18):
I'm sure you kind of answered this last night, but
why didn't you keep him in for the two minute
or why did you decide to take him out?

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Yeah? Nothing more than decided to give Snoop some work
at the end of the game.

Speaker 11 (32:30):
Hey, Kevin, just if he does not able to go,
is it Luke? And if it's Luke, what have you
seen from him coming off?

Speaker 5 (32:36):
You know?

Speaker 11 (32:37):
That injury that cost him all last year.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah, Luke's done a really nice job all of the offseason,
not just in the games, but he's done a nice
job in the games and we trust him. So if
that is the case, he'll be ready to go.

Speaker 11 (32:51):
And then with Kenny is, do you have any idea
yet if he will be ready to be available week one?

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Yeah? I think he will be of available week one.
But he's getting better every day.

Speaker 11 (33:02):
And you're still working through who'll be the number two?

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Correct? Okay, thank you?

Speaker 9 (33:07):
Kevin just On just on Snoop. Was the plan always
to get him some action at the end of the
game or did the situation kind of merit wanting to
give him that action?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
No, Yeah, we just felt if we could get him
some action in that last game, we were going to
do that. You know, he's done a really nice job
for us over the last few weeks and just put
him out.

Speaker 9 (33:26):
There and then just forty eight hours still cut down.
You know, how many how many roster spots do you
think are still up in terms of debate and consideration.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah, you know, it's we've really been talking about our
roster throughout this preseason. It's not as if you get
to this moment and you sit down and you talk
about each spot. So we've had some really good discussions.
As you guys know, there's some really really tough decisions
to be made, and that's the hard part that we
have to work through. I like all these guys. I

(33:59):
wish could keep all of them, but unfortunately just the
rules don't allow it.

Speaker 10 (34:04):
Hey, Kevin, with Harold catching that touchdown yesterday, just again,
it seems like he's just come along really nicely at
each phase of training camp. Like, do you guys think
he's ahead of where you even thought he would be
when you drafted him And how much can he do
here early in his career?

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Yeah, hard to say. Ashley, where we thought he was
the guy on tape, it's hard not to like that player,
you know, just put the tape on of him making
plays against really good opponents, led the nation and receiving
for that position. So it was something that you felt

(34:40):
like you could certainly line him up in different spots,
he could do different things. I would tell you the
thing that you learned just being around all of our players,
and you certainly have learned about Harold. He's extremely competitive,
has worked very very hard in all aspects of his craft,
even including special teams. So I think that's and fun

(35:00):
to watch a young player so devoted to his craft.

Speaker 10 (35:03):
And then, how did you guys feel about the pressure
that first like second unit d line was able to
create yesterday, especially in the first quarter, and especially knowing
like you're not even full strength there yesterday since Miles
didn't play and Mike Hall's not back. Just how did
that all look?

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Well, that's that's been something I believe Ashley's been a
strength of ours this whole offseason. I could tell you
our offensive coaches would tell you it's been difficult at
practice because the first wave and second wave are guys
that can really be disruptive. And that's a you know,
credit to Andrew, credit to our coaches in developing these

(35:42):
guys that are really really good scheme fits in terms
of how we like to play.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
Hey, Kevin, how from your perspective, how much did Dylan
Gabriel grow from that first game last week to yesterday?

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, hard to say, Jeff in that you know, he
did an job yesterday. There's plenty plenty to clean up
for our rookies and all of our players. So that's
the fun part again, like I mentioned, where we can
work with these guys and you know, build on the
good stuff, help them clean up the stuff that they
got to clean up. But really, for Dylan, it goes

(36:16):
back to the spring. It goes back to all the
work that he's put in with with all these young players,
they put in from the spring to now and just
need to continue to build on that work.

Speaker 12 (36:26):
Can you give an example of what he needed to
clean up after that game yesterday?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Well, I think any player, Jeff, I don't care what
the numbers say. You can have a really good numbers
line sometimes and there's always stuff that you can you know,
you can be better. And that's I've said it to
you guys before. But we're not going to be perfect.
We're all striving for it. It's not going to happen.
But can we identify some things? Can we correct them?

(36:51):
So I'm not going to get into the nitty gritty
per se, but there's plenty from from a footwork, decision making,
all those things, you can all get a little bit
better at. Thank you, Kevin.

Speaker 13 (37:02):
I know we ask you about him a lot, but
Carson Schwessinger early on went untouched, was in that backfield,
back there, and then you know, he's kind of felt
like he's translated the things from training camp into the
preseason game. So what have you maybe seen from him
that has stood out in terms of like his instinction
is athleticism that feels good for the regular season.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Carson's been really a guy as advertised CAM where he's
come in and he's running the show, He's making plays.
I think his athleticism, his length shows up in practice
and these games. So he's doing in games or what
I'm seeing him doing practice as well.

Speaker 13 (37:44):
And then Isaiah maguire had that unsportsmanlike conduct call. I
know the NFL said they're cracking down on even more
gestures or things. What did you see in that one?
What was the message and how do you address that
as a team so that doesn't carry into the regular season.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, I'm glad if it was going to happen, I'm
glad it happened in the preseason. We know those rules,
and if we don't know those rules, that's my responsibility
to make sure these guys know what you can and
cannot do when it relates to celebrating.

Speaker 14 (38:12):
Thank you, Hey, Kevin, I want to ask you another
quick injury question, and then just something more general. Julian
and a Kora left that game. I know he's had
a really nice kind of camp that it is he
what's his update? I guess what's his status?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Yeah, dealing with a rib injury. I'll have more information
over the next couple of days. And he has had
a nice camp.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (38:31):
And then that's like, I know, I Ashley asked you
what kind of the pressure that you guys have created
those guys like him, Cam Thomas, some of those guys
we don't you know, show try and showing because some
of those guys we haven't talked about a lot. How
valuable has it been to kind of get looks.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
At those guys. Yeah, it's kind of goes back to
the point from earlier Dan, where it's these are tough
decisions to be made. Guys have done a really nice job.
They've done asked everything we've asked him to do. Uh,
And certainly I put that defensive line room in that conversation.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
Kevin, I know I asked you yesterday about Shador coming
up to you on the sidelines to ask if he
could go back into the game for the two minute drive.
But then in you know, kind of watching him in
the aftermath of that, I saw, you know, a lot
of things on the sideline about him. He was very emotional.
Some players had to console him, calm him, things like that.

(39:21):
So my question is is this a good teaching moment
for you with him? I know you want players who
are passionate that would want to go in in that situation,
but do you also, I don't know, do you need
him to maybe be a little bit more composed or
have any kind of a different demeanor on the sideline
in a situation like that.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I think all of our guys, Mary Kay as you know,
are extremely competitive and want to be out there for
every play. So I never want a player to be
less competitive, you know. So we want the best version
of all of our players, and we need to learn
from all these games, learn from every play. That's kind
of what we're in the business of.

Speaker 11 (40:00):
Kevin, how is aiden able to make such an impression
on you guys? And Irlo's other roles, right, the fullback
role and the special teams role.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
Playing physical achieves that your goals there, Scott, if you
show up and you're playing physical on defense and then
you do it on special teams we have offensive coaches
that are going to want to steal that physicality. So
the more you can do, and he's somebody that has
certainly done it on defense, has has done it on
special teams, and we value physicality.

Speaker 11 (40:28):
It feels kind of unusual for a rookie maybe or
a young guy that we wore step in and take
on all those roles. So did you just know right
away that this guy's got the intelligence to do that?

Speaker 5 (40:38):
Well? I think this week was part of that. Scott
was seeing what he could handle, and you know, he
did a nice job.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
All Right, I'm going to read Daniel's question out loud
and then we'll go to Joe and then we'll be done.
All right, So Daniel said he wanted to ask there
any takeaways from Isaiah Bond's nine snaps since he wasn't
targeted in what are the next steps for him?

Speaker 5 (40:57):
Yeah? Thanks Daniel. I think it was a good start
art for I be to get out there. You know,
he's just getting back into quote unquote football shape, hasn't
been with us for that extended period of time, so
I thought it was a good start. Obviously, the ball
goes where the ball goes, But pleased with his progress
and we got to just continue to build on that.

Speaker 9 (41:18):
Yeah, then twelve minutes and you got to avoid it.
But just when it comes to the kicker competition, what
is kind of the deciding factor, just when you weigh everything,
what could be the determining case.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, we'll work through all those things, Joe, really at
every position, and that's what the next couple days are for.

Speaker 9 (41:37):
And then just for this week with week zero, since
we're five years into it now, how much of it
is still training camp mode working on your own stuff
but also trying to prepare for Week one in Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Yeah, I think you can do both. I do think
you want to guard against going too far and down
the Bengal into the Bengals with your football team until
you get later in the week obviously, because there's that
three day break mandatory, so you don't want to overload
your players mentally just yet. So a lot of what
we'll do this week will be about sharpening our scheme,

(42:16):
sharpening our fundamentals and techniques, those type of things, and
we'll do a lot a good bit of Browns versus Browns,
So still a good bit of competitive periods out there
at the practice fields.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
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Jordan Schultz, just reporting this in the last couple of minutes.
The Bengals and Trey Hendrickson are getting back together on
a contract conversation. Remember they had opened up to trading
him last week. That did not happen, and so now
they are working on getting an extension done. All the

(43:58):
reporting that I've seen from down there, in the folks
that I've talked to down there, is that it just
comes back to the the the yearly salary is good,
that the term is good. I think the Bengals want
to do the guaranteed money and we'll get to the
Terry McLaurin de eleven second, which this will mirror. The
Bengals want to do the guaranteed money for the for
one year. Hendrickson wants three years of guarantees yes, and
the Bengals just want to do one to me meet

(44:20):
in the middle on two and then away you go.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
So I've been trying to search out nobody has the
McLaurin details.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I read it this morning because it happened while I
was on the air, and I read it this morning
off of is it Peliasarrow. I mean, he's one fine, Tom, Yeah,
I think Sorrow and schefter. I want to say Tom
had the terms of it.

Speaker 7 (44:42):
It was three years, like ninety six million, right, yeah,
but I think it was thirty million guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
There it is thirty thirty thirty minutes.

Speaker 7 (44:49):
I thought that like as a bonus, like.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
A signing bonus or something. Yeah, that's that's the way
that I read. It was three for ninety six through guaranteed.
But if it's so, I haven't seen so some of
the people. I don't see the guarantee. But nonetheless, Okay,
that's Warren's extension includes a thirty million dollars signing bonus,
per the source a significant race.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
So they're not sure yet the total. John Kimes says,
not sure yet the total guarantees. So Bill Barnwell, and
he says, good question. Wordy Land in terms of to
your guarantees closer to Mike Evans and Courtland Sudden or
DK Metcalf, which would be sixty that he wanted. My
guess is it's not going to be that. I would
be shocked. I think it's good. I think it's probably
gonna be like fifty, which is right where t should be.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, so that that deal did get done. My guess
is the Hendrickson deal will get done.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
They're all gonna get done.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Mike the Parsons is interesting. You saw what happened Friday.
Did you see him laying like while they're playing the
preseason game, he was laying on the exam table, sleep
sleeping with just staring in the sky like the look
of it is awful. And Brian Schottenneimer had some postgame comments.
I forgot that Brian Schottheimer's coaching the Dallas Cowboys. Sometimes

(46:06):
you forget that. That's there's still that. Yeah, the Cam
Hayward one. I tuk to Brooke prior this morning and
she said that that basically omar CON's not gonna blink
like like they're going, we're not giving you the extension,
like this is it? We paid you richly, Like we're not.
We're not redoing your deal. So he returned to practice

(46:27):
in Pittsburgh over the weekend or last week. So that's
the one there. You're waiting on. Micah? Who else you
who's still out there?

Speaker 7 (46:33):
Micah and trailer yea too big oldins.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, Jerry was not pleased Friday with Micah's agent, No
at all.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Most certainly was not.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, so something to watch for there and again we'll see.

Speaker 7 (46:51):
You know, we've got two weeks.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
We've got two weeks.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
Yeah, I'm not, although I think don't the Cowboys play
the Eagles Thursday night to kick things off?

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah? I think they do.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
So the timetable moves up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that does. It's it's a little quicker,
but my hunches he's in shape and would be pretty
good to go. The Raiders in need of a backup quarterback.
In fact, Pete Carroll said the team is looking for
an experienced player who can help us backup quarterback. Aidan
O'Connell breaks his wrist in the Vegas' final preseason game,
so could be some quarterback of interest there. The Eagles

(47:27):
made three trades yesterday, including acquiring Sam Howell from Minnesota
and releasing DTR. So DTR was released in Philly yesterday.
The Vikings then, corresponding with that sign, Carson wentz to
back up JJ McCarthy. I'll be candid with you, I
wasn't watching Minnesota in the preseason. Did JJ play at all?

Speaker 7 (47:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Hold please, yeah, that would I don't know that he's ever.
I mean, I I again, maybe he's played a bunch,
but I did. I haven't watched, so I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Max Brosmer got sixty four snaps, Brett Rippon thirty four,
Sam Howl twenty, JJ McCarthy eight and his eight snaps
he went or eight drop backs. He went four of
seven for thirty yards.

Speaker 7 (48:13):
I think they cut Brett RiPP In yesterday.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
They did.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah, so so Wentz will be the backup.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah. Yeah, the McCarthy thing, it's going to be a
fascinating thing to watch a guy who missed all of
last season. Obviously, a couple other things around the league.
The Patriots are shopping safety Kyle Dugger, their starter for
the past five seasons. Dugger was one of those guys.

Speaker 5 (48:33):
Is funny.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Every time I say his name, I think a.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Dane Yeah, Leonora Rhyan, Yeah, we take college. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
There was what draft was that where we were in
the safety world so much? That was the year before
the Delpit draft. Because Grant's in year four, right, Grant
is in your.

Speaker 7 (48:52):
Is that because we wanted the man who we shall
not talk about that went to Arizona.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Dos This is your five for Deulpit because he was
hurt in twenty one.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
All right, Actually this is.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
This is probably really year, so they're in the same draft.

Speaker 7 (49:09):
This is year six because Dougger got an extension.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Twenty playwenty four. Yeah, this will be his six.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
So they're in the same draft. That's why we have
Kyle Duggar.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Yep, he was in the same TSD because he was
in the second round pick thirty seven.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I mean, he's been a very good player.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Who's running the defense for Rabes over there.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
The New England Patriots. Stephen's corner is Turrell Williams.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I know Josh McDaniels running the offense, but didn't know.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Who he has been the He was the D line
coach run game coordinator of the Lions last year and
he was in with Rabel and Tennessee as the D
line coach from eighteen to twenty three. He was there,
so he's been so he knows Rabes McDaniels.

Speaker 7 (49:56):
The Lions copver really got raided in the offseason.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
Thomas Brown, Todd downing, Doug maro own. Ben McAdoo is
a senior defensive assistant on that staff.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
How about that?

Speaker 7 (50:07):
What's his mustache too?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Oh? Man elite here?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yeah, when he took it off. It all went to
hell at that point. So there are some of the
big stories around the league. Cut down day tomorrow by
four o'clock. This stuff is, this is all going to
start to really go at this point. You're going to
start to see a lot of it. You're going to
see guys getting extensions. You could see some more trades
and then all of the waiver wire drops and pickups

(50:32):
as all those drops will have to be done by
tomorrow at four o'clock for the initial cut down. The
man in charge of those for us is Andrew Berry.
He was on the telecast of the game on Saturday
and had a wide ranging conversation with Joe and Chris.
We'll have some of the highlights from that for you
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Time to have a little bit of a listen. We've
cherry picked some of the soundbites from Aby's appearance on
the News five preseason telecasts with Chris and Joe. Here
is Ab on the possibility of keeping all four quarterbacks.

Speaker 15 (51:42):
Now, the reality of it is fifty three man roster.
You know, you have fifty three roster spots. Five are
really deftlemental or an active spots. Plus post COVID, the
roster rules are just so much more flexible that you
can build your forty eight game day roster unless you're
wiped out from injury. Like creatively, quarterback it's the most
important position in sports.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
We have a room.

Speaker 15 (52:04):
That that we like all the guys in there, so
we don't we don't really see that as a problem.

Speaker 7 (52:08):
We really more see it as an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Abe talked about the uh, you know this notion of
post COVID there's you have more flexibility with being able
to move guys.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Around, and it's smart and so you're allowed to. For example,
we've talked about, well the Browns only go with two
tight ends, and now with injury to Blake Whitehart, maybe
they will go two tight ends, have a couple of
guys on the practice squad, and one will be up
you know for the first few weeks. So that's the
way that they're going to be looking at it. The
fourth quarterback in this case, Shador is going to be
an active You probably have two quarterbacks that are inactive, yeah, honestly,

(52:40):
and you're gonna then be bringing people up off of
your practice squad to be on your active roster. Linebackers, safeties,
tight ends, offensive lineman for example. You know, as we
kind of looked at the one question and we knew
that you couldn't have at all, you know, in terms
of you can't have the ten offensive lineman you canada.
The one surprise amongst all the cuts or two, there

(53:02):
are two actually names in the first wave of cuts
that surprised me.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
A little bit.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Nick Need him just because he could play safety and
corner somebody. That'd be a way to have two spots
in one guy. And then Jackson Barton, who played very
well in as a tackle with NFL experience and we
need him, so I'm guessing that we're gonna want him to,
you know, come back if that's possible.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Certainly something to watch for there. Yeah, the need of
one was a little bit, but you can't keep them all. Unfortunately.
The Fellas asked ab On if he's comfortable knowing his
two quarterbacks as two rookies or just a snap away
from being the starter. First of all, we have a
lot of belief in both Dylan and shid Order and
both of those guys have had an excellent preseason today

(53:46):
and a big part of it is like we measure
and track everything in practice. You know, every throw, every decision.

Speaker 15 (53:51):
Foot work, you name it, and we talk about the
tangible progress that we're seeing on a weekly basis. Now
nothing is a substitute for a competitive game situation, you know,
whether it's in the preseason and then certainly the regular season.
So with any rookie player, not just quarterbacks, there is
a little bit of a leap of faith. But we've
been able to see their progress in real time, which
gives us the confidence for both.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Guys, and the reality on that one is is you're
going to have another ten days For Kenny to get
up to speed too, So there's not up to speed
in terms of acumen, but just health wise. Yeah, when
is the last time we got an update on Kenny
in terms of this looks like he's in great spirits
on the sideline, but.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
We haven't got an update on him in terms of
I guess anything concrete. No, no, but I would imagine
he did say that he would be available for week one,
so that would be that is an update without saying
that he's you know, peas back, he's full.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Go.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Well, I think the Hoff is responsible for giving us
the update that he was more injured than we realized anyway,
and that was two weeks ago. That's, you know, at
least he did at least we didn't expect to see
him the last couple of weeks that part, and so
good job out of the Hoff.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
Here is an update with ab on Quin Shawn Judkins.

Speaker 15 (55:02):
Yeah, so there's there's there's not much that you know
that that I have an update on in terms of
in terms of Q. You know, we'll take that day
to day and uh, it's a.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Situation appropriately.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Revolved.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, well that's whatever that's he looking for clicks is
what that is looking for a little bit of attention.
He did that one other time this summer. I think
it was with Shamar Stewart. He did that with the
Bengals when they were trying to get his deal done
and kind of use the exact same bit of logic
on that. Yeah, I mean, I think we all just
want this thing resolved and get quinch On here and

(55:38):
let him be a part of it. But it takes
two to tango on that, on that side of things.
So it's it's certainly not something anybody foresaw happening all
of it a month and a half ago. But but
here we are, and the fact that he's still not
here is is not a great deal at all in
terms of what made a be comfortable in signing Isaiah Bond.
Here's his answer.

Speaker 15 (55:59):
Part of it is, you know, we have gotten to
know Isaiah's player person of the past calendar year and
then obviously done an enormous amount of work, you know,
on his legal situation. You know that's something that you know,
we never take lightly when a players in and you know,
involved in a situation, are alleged to be involved in
a in a situation like that. And really, we got
really comfortable doing our due diligence and our investigative work.

(56:22):
Felt comfortable with the you know, with the player, just
based on his time with Tommy Reese at Alabama and
after his criminal case was resolved, you know, we felt
really good about bringing into the organization.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
You get a chance to watch him run around a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
Yeah, there was one play where it was a deep
his route was a deep post. We ran a play
action pass with Joe Flackewan. It was a deep post
and you could just you could see him run and
be appreciative of the fact that there's gonna be a
time where the ball is going to get thrown to
him on that route.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yeah, he's a nice player. That's a that's nice to have.
That just kind of drop in the middle of August
and all of a sudden, you get a second round talent
at receiver, a position you need. Boy, I'll that's pretty good. Yeah, Yeah,
that's very good. He's a big time weapon. Joe Flacco
got his preseason action on Saturday as well. Here is
your starter on should struggle Saturday. If he remembers his

(57:11):
struggles in his first preseason game in the NFL.

Speaker 16 (57:14):
Dude, I remember, Yeah, big time I can remember, just
like yesterday. I mean, that's part of being a rookie.
You know you're gonna get thrown into situations that you know,
maybe you don't think your ideal. I got thrown into
a game against New England with two minutes left. I
fumbled on the one yard line. They scored two plays later.
And that was John Harball's first preseason game, and he
was not happy. I mean I wasn't happy either, but like, hey,

(57:35):
like it's part of the game, but part it's part
of what makes a football player is learning how to
deal with those situations and learn from them.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, it certainly is learn from those mistakes. Here's Joe
on Harold Finn and getting his first touchdown.

Speaker 16 (57:50):
It was cool. I was as I broke the huddle.
Dave then Harold were both in and I was kind
of waiting to see who's going to which five here,
But it was great. You know, he's I think he's
gonna be a player and important piece for us, and
you know it's good to see him kind of breaking
out of his shell a little bit and become a
part of this team. And you know, to get him
a touch there was great.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
When we get to Cincinnati a week from Sunday. How
do you expect us to go about our business offensively
provide it? Because I don't think Quinn Shawn's going to
be in There's no way he could be in the mix.
I think for Sunday anyway, with this short of a
ramp up, even if you were somehow to miraculously get here.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Yeah, No, I think it's gonna be you know, Jerome
Ford and Dylan Samson, and then we're going to figure
out a power back to go with them. Whether that
you know, Mini Marshall missed the blitz pick up in
this one. I thought that was very important for him
to be kind of flawless in that regard. Still had
some nice runs, showed that kind of good North South power.
But that is something that certainly you know will be monitoring.
But I think we're going to go out and we're
going to be in a lot of twelve personnel. I

(58:48):
think we'll be, you know, with Tillman and Judy and
sometimes maybe Thrash and Judy when we go eleven. I
think Jamori Thrash will be that third receiver bond. I
think we'll have a collection of place But I think
for the most part. We're going to get out there.
We're gona get the chief out there and get Harold
Fannin out there, and we're going to try to dictate
that the Bengals need to be in base defense. And
if we can dictate that, I think we're going to
be very effective. You watch the play where you know

(59:09):
Jerome Ford had his big run bounced outside. It was
a Harold fan and block on the edge that set
that one up. Now you could say maybe he got
away with a hold on that play, but hey, it's
not a hold.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
If they don't call it the half would half would
be the first.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
One to tell you, yes, yes, he would be the
first to tell you on that.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
By the way, that's it. We haven't got it. We
haven't done any little tom foolery at all.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
But I had a chance to sample some of the
half beef on on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Oh did you the hoff? And it was it was delightful.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I thought he would would Did you go to Fahrenheit
with him or did.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You know he came out? He came over.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Yeah, he brought the beef. He had a like a
meat sack, a meat sleeve.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
He had a meat he opened it up. It was
like refrigerated in there.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
He had some like ic things in there or whatever,
and it pulled out his half beef. So we had
a strip rib I and a one hundred percent wag you,
like a full blood wag you, because American wagon is
typically like wag you and angus, And this was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Dropping as we've come a long way from well, I know, beef,
we've come a long way. We're dropping a wagu angus split.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
I mean we we are a long way. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
It's grass fed, very special green finish on it, but
that one was a Denver steak.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Even those about the grain finish.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
It was just the light bulbs where your marble, Yeah,
and I have my buddy's. Ashen was like, well want
it if it's grass fed grass I said, it's wag
you Like they need the marbling.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
This isn't all of them do they need? If you
want it to be flavor flavorful, some people don't and
can be very healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Okay, but I mean you need to have a little.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
Those people wanted it was real good. So he took
on the strip.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
The strip had the big like the fact that the
strip was unreal and just kind of we had a
cast iron and he just kind of let it sit
on that fat cat.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Kind of vertically like this and move that around. That
created kind of the and then we basically cooked it
in that like tallow Oh that's nice, it's quite good.
We had. It was a feast. I was not well
for twenty four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Is he ready? Are we ready to like order online?
Or we at a good point?

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
We are and it's already like I think it's already gone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Creamium, it's premium. It's yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
The strip was one of the it was so we
also did like a head to head with it with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
The wagon that I get.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
So we did a steak off so that we could
kind of like see and it was. What's funny about
it was when I have the wag you that we're
usually able to get and compare that to a regular steak,
it tastes like basically, his wag you made the wag
you taste like a regular steak, and his was like
so much creamier, sweeter, more tender.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
And the strip was the strip was really it was outrageous.
It was outraged the Dover or the Denver. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
We had like so thick that almost a little room.
It was almost like it was almost like sashimi. Really
it was quite good.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Oh yeah, he's got No, he's ready to go. I
mean I I'm on the site now, like he's yeah,
there's there are something that a bundles. He's got f
one American wigu. He's got full blooded wigu.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
So the full blood is what we had of the Denver.
We had his American wagu on the strip and the Rabbi.
The strip again, I will say, was spectacular. Yeah, yeah, okay,
I see where he's. Yeah, he's got he's got some
stuff up.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Let me tell you something right now. It is unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
And if you ever get like if you see that
he does the drops on Fahrenheit and you're in the
able to get.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Down there, go get it. It's it's incredible beef.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
And like he is you guys know the hoff right,
And we talked about he gets so into it at
a level that not many people can even understand, and
that's how we approach playing offensive line and basically everything
that he.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Does and this was this is no exception. It's brilliant, incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
He's got a charcuterie bundle on here. He's really no,
it's just like when. So it's like when he this
was years ago, I was in the we were in
the market for a different.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Coffee, was the K cups.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
I was done with K cups. I'm done with them, Like,
I gotta do it, haf what do you? What did
you do? So he went through a process to net
him the machine that he recommended me, which I've had
for now six seven years, which I love. But beyond that,
he goes, I'm gonna save you some time. These are
the best beane you're ever gonna find.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
The key is the good. You gotta have the bean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
And so he put me onder the beans. And that's
the only beans that I've had for the whole time. Yeah,
anytime I'm like, oh, maybe I try another bean, and
I this was years ago. I'm too smart Now, I
don't we just buy the same one. But in the time, like,
maybe there is something better. No, there's not. The Hoff
did the dude did it?

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
And it is it's like the pillow research his due diligence.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
The pillow. The pillow is the Hoff has enriched my
life in so many ways. He put me on that pillow.
I have not had back issues since I've been on
that pillow. Yeah, and that's like four years probably with
that same pillow. What else, Oh and then uh little Joe,
Little Joe, Yeah is working.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Yeah, it's working great. The SUV timead it was it
was the night of extreme indulgence. I thought it was
a lot of good wine. I was.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
I was wrecked my Sunday. I really didn't even feel
good until like and he had to get up at
five in the morning. I feel like he's impervious.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
That's right, he was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
He was previous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Oh was he was he hurting?

Speaker 9 (01:04:51):
He was?

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Yeah, he was. He is mortal after all. Okay, turns
out I think we both thought it was a good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
Like late in the evening, so Arden and Boods had
come back, and they're all big into Crumble, Like, are
your kids obsessed with Crumble the cookies?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Oh, not obsessed, But I'm aware of that, Okay, I'm
aware of mine.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Yes, they're always getting Crumble.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
So there was a thing called the Dubai Brownie that
had like sold.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Out immediately, over and over and over.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Okay, So that at like nine to fifty five, it
was like, there's gonna be Dubai brownies, but the store
closed at ten, so you had to get it for delivery.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
So we get for delivery. Haff It's like what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
So he gets he orders four, So we get these
two packages delivered to our neighbors wrong house. Boods is like,
we gotta get these. So we go out under the
cover of nights, sneak through the little forest. We see
up on the thing and he's like like, you know,
just go up there, said if somebody's there, just knocking
on the door and be like, hey, I think the
would driller crumble here?

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
If not, go up look verify it's ours. And so
the girls gets it. Then he's like running back through
the trees. It's like hysterical. So we get so it
was the futuitive and we eat them and it was
really good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
So I don't find out until the next day. Okay there.
First of all, they're big.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
The Dubai brownie is big, and it's got like gold
on it, and it's got a pistachio crust, and then
it has some like philo dough layers in it that
I guess are from some Middle Eastern type of a pastry.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Oh boy, this is it? That's the thing?

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Okay, yeah, so that look that's it. Yes, boy, that
is a wild looking thing. First of all, it's delicious.
Second of all, we were so far in it that,
like at that point, like eating anything was very exciting,
even though we had eaten four pounds. I think of
meat and have way too much wine. So I eat

(01:06:46):
one of them, and then I was like, now Definitelyrick, Okay,
he ate who of them? My kid's brains are falling
watching he just ate, and he'd already eaten like a
pint of ice cream. So he eats two of these things.
So then the next morning the kids should surprise you.
The kids telling me this next morning, they're like, do
you realize that those were?

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Look it up there, look up the calorie part. Let's
see what if you google it? What does it saying?
Because maybe I'm hoping they're wrong. There's a part of
me that's hoping that they're wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
It's actually the second thing you put type it in.
Then the next word that comes up eight and ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Okay, better.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
They had set one thousand each, So now I feel better.
I guess when it was ala mode, probably we're tipping
a thousand and he went two after the wag you
after I won't tell you say how many, but bottles
of wine, and it was, well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
He can probably drink a bottle of wine like you
would have like a h if.

Speaker 7 (01:07:35):
He drinks wine like he drinks beer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I bet it's like like one of those mini Fiji's
or something like two gulps and he.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Gets and he gets a little good of little story
and he's like, oh, it's good, God, he's there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
He pleased.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
So then we decided, I think what what gottis in was.
After that, we watched the America's Game doc or America's Team.
Oh yeah, oh, we hadn't seen it, so we watched
like the first forty minutes of one, and then it
was just like the new one or of the first episode,
so like he's riveted with like the you know, then
it's gush and oil, and I knew I was gonna
buy the dea and then I and like did the

(01:08:10):
line about you know, I caught the doctor's hands try
to stak him like he's like just and he's like
this we loving it, but we were like, you know,
i'd really love it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
He's like, what time is this he's trying to stay.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
This is like we're after midnight, for sure, So we
have a coffee. But then we had a great idea
that we were So he had a great idea that
in this coffee would be Carmel salted caramel Bailey's and
a hefty splash of Weller.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
And I'm pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Sure, I'm pretty sure that's why nobody could sleep and
why that was. You know, there are three kinds of bourbons, right,
There's like a great, the great Bourbon, there's a reasonable
bourbon nightcap, and then there is that we're carried away,

(01:09:07):
We're having the bourbon night Captain's unnecessary.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Unnecessary, and that one is a killer.

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
And that's that's where I think we ended up there
after it was it was incredible. I gotta tell you
that I didn't even eat really until last night's dinner
and I wasn't even like you said, that was a caramel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
What was in the coffee other than.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
The Dweller, uh, Carmel Bailey's, Carmel favored Bailey's at midnight.

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
That's a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Let me just tell you something. After the Dubai brownies,
it was nothing, that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Was nothing, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7 (01:09:47):
So yeah, maybe it was better Miss k was out
of town.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Oh yeah, Boots hung out with us all night though.
Boods was loving it. We were talking, we were having
a we were having a great time.

Speaker 12 (01:09:58):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
The the hot though, Just what a tremendous human he
really is, Like I couldn't love that guy anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I guess see grams of sugar in the biro, grams
of sugar, crams of sugar in the brownie.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
I don't want to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Eighty four like I went, so eighty four. I have
this awesome I don't know if I've ever seen Eddy
four on a label, eight two of them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
And before that, we, like I said, we had ripped
a pint of ice cream cookie dough blah blah blah
this because this was like a late The kids are
like odd to my bread.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
So it's like, I'm going to order some too, So
we had double order. So he's like he can never
be too short, right you can. We got to be
saying it was but just hilarious. And then he's so
he had to go. He left early and had a
layover because you can't fly to Wisconsin direct from here, no,
so you had to layover in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
He's like, this might would be the layover was tough times.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
So then he had like got there and you know,
when you're an of us are gone, even if we're
gone on work and tech.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Is a triple when you come back. But it's like, dude,
now you're Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
There was parades and he had to be in like
parades and like, I'm if he was feeling I was feeling,
and I'm sure he was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
That would have been tough.

Speaker 7 (01:11:14):
He's got young kids. Everybody everybody wants to hang out
with dad.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Oh yeah, we got to talk with Reese.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Great Reese, the youngest of the Thomas Klan. And I
think we're I think we're cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Now that's good. There was a time you weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
I think I took it as affection.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
When she beat me up, like and was literally throwing
punches as a six year old that I was like,
I really actually would like you stop hitting me, Like
these are pretty legit punches that you're throwing asier old girl. Yeah,
And that's so we were we had I think at

(01:11:53):
the end it was kind of like I got to
look like, you know, when uh in in what about
Bob when he's in the the shower and outside and
Doctor Leomarvin's basically being like, you know, Bob one doesn't
want to stay here, and he's just like, eah, basically
did I was like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
So are we friendships?

Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
I like, I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I'll take Oh that was great, that is fantastic. We'll
do a little roster factor fiction coming up next. You'll
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Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Way, when's there real quick? When's everybody's fantasy football drafts tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
I just me too, the only one B and s
U and s our team name lobby Nathan Nathan. You
know he's he's going to be very I don't think
we're going to have a chance to get Travion, and
I know he wants Travia first round, so we if
we took a we'd have to take them fourth overall.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I think that's aggressive.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Yeah, well, but it is a keeper dynasty. Yeah, it's
a keeper league. So this year we're going in although
my god, like yeah, but.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
Like if you think about thirty six of the best
players in the league are off.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
The ball, oh okay, okay, but where they're slotted, so
like we are like, okay, well, so then it's not
too crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
We kept Lamar Jackson, We kept Jackson Smith and Jigba
we had him fairly late last year, and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Then we got Judy, like real late.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
So those are our three nice keep.

Speaker 7 (01:14:21):
And where did you guys end up? You guys made
it to the championship?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Were not last year?

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
We're three time champions in this league.

Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
Yeah no, no, no, I think you've made a little run
a yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
No, me and me and well we can we can
only play for pride these days, as you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:34):
Know, correct, Well, what I'm saying is like you beat
the mis Oh, that's the other league.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
That's that's yeah, that league I lost in the finals.
That was that was the number one matchup in maybe
fantasy football history.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
I hate say we came out on the wrong side
of it. We did.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
It's true we had a great showing that week, but
Bowens got us. So Bowens, who I play in the
brilow with, uh, his team has now won five titles
in the NFL. We've won three. So at the time
he had before, we had three were in the final. Guys,
So we have the most wins, points, division wins, all
of that, and three titles. He's second and all of those.
But as the five titles, wow, he's the dynasty right now,

(01:15:09):
we're the second dynasty. But it's basically two teams have
been running rough shot over the over for the mid
zero titles. By the way, keeping score home same as
all of you who aren't even in the league.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
In the league, I have mind and I haven't looked
at anything like just as I don't do it nearly
the work I have, but I'm I.

Speaker 7 (01:15:28):
Don't have a league.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
A league.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
You gotta get a league.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
League.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
We can do here.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
I just thought about it. I was like, I'm not
in one right now.

Speaker 5 (01:15:38):
I don't know why.

Speaker 7 (01:15:40):
Man, it's normally yeah, just it didn't kind of fell
through this year.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
This is your twenty five for the only.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
League I'm in, really family league still.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Uh No, I'm sure we'll do that. I'm sure. And
the kids have their own now. The two bigs have
their own own little operation, so they're in with their buddies.
But we'll do I'm sure we'll probably do something like that.
I got to get Boots. He's got to get involved
with something. I might have him help me draft tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
We'll see Boots. How was Boots at the game. We're
running around playing football Z just his best life.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
The first week of school, first week of school.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
In the books where I sit, I can see everything
so I can spot him in the distances and know
where they all are. So no, he was great. He
and I had an epic comeback. On Saturday night golf.
We were down. We always played nine and we were
meeting my wife for dinner at seven, and so we
were buzzing around. There wasn't many people out, which was awesome.

(01:16:38):
Like we zipped right around and we were down four
holes with four to play. Boots and I were Yeah,
and the week before I probably played as good as
I played all summer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
And I was awful Saturday, awful. Didn't lose a ball,
but just was spraying as tough, just tough, just suck,
just couldn't everything close. I wasn't getting close. Boots was struggling.
And then we rallied and switched we want win win.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Well, now the pressure completely changed. So we get to
we get to nine, we get to five.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Yeah, isn't like one nine eighteen the spiral.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Yeah it's weird. That's a weird layout. Yeah it's terrible, kid, Yeah,
it's weird. So we it was coming down to the
last hole and I'd played terrible all day.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Where you guys had you if you win this whole?
Are we going extra holes? Are we prepared to go
to a playoff hole? Because you're pressed?

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
So we went it went Winter take All on nine
love it? So they uh, they were they sprayed left.
Where do the from m Peyton is the same as me? Uh?
And then the two no, no, no, I'm one back

(01:17:55):
from Peyton Peyton's went up for me. Parkers went up
from Peyton and then Boots. He's like they really cool.
They put tea's like in the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Fairway or they have there's a disk and it's like
the Jude. They put like actual teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Put the teas in there there it's on an edge,
but they're way up. Yeah. Sometimes it's twenty thirty yards,
sometimes like one hundred and twenty five yards, like it's
gonna be big. He goes up there and I made
natural birdie on my own, which I've never done in
that hole ever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
All I can't say that anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
The blonde was sitting there watching as we played through,
which was still the champion.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
They just remember you like that spark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
The boys were so pissed.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
What do you mean they should be pissed themselves. They
couldn't close. Closed, they closed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
They are four to four to go close Yeah they Yeah,
it was and they were cruising. I mean it wasn't
particularly close like stroke wise. They definitely beat us, no question.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
But anyway, what about what you're playing though?

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:18:57):
Uh, a little roster factor fiction gentlemen, Kevin hit it
fact for fiction. The Browns initial fifty three man roster
will have more offensive players than defensive players. We're down
to what sixty nine right now?

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Yeah, fiction, we're gonna have more. Maybe we're gonna have
more on defense.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Yeah, or worst, you're basically saying, I get to say
more defense were the same, I'll take that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
Action.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Feels twenty six to twenty four, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Next fact for fiction, the Browns number three opening day
cornerback is currently not on this roster.

Speaker 5 (01:19:36):
Zee.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
I think that's probably fiction. I don't think that they
would get that into I don't know this. Somebody's gonna
get picked up and start that week, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I mean, if it feels like I mean Cam spin here, I.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Know, I think he's gonna get They're going to get
an opportunity. But I think that's I think corners will
be brought in, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:20:02):
Bishop anything to add on that, No.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I think I think I would be. I think to me,
if I feel like Cam will start, and I mean
he's played well for us in the past. I know
it hasn't been the best camp, but I don't know
who you could bring in that quickly that could gotcha
come into that spot.

Speaker 7 (01:20:17):
Next fact or fiction, the Browns will make another trade
before the season opener.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Bishop, I think it feels like the safe odds would
be a fact. We have some needs at corner, for sure.
We have a lot of depth on the defensive line,
a lot of NFL guys on the defensive line. Is
there a possibility there. I always thought that we would
need a dress receiver. I don't feel that way anymore
with the addition of Isaiah Bond. I don't think we
need to do anything there. Yeah. So, and you know

(01:20:45):
that was kind of an ace up the sleeve there
to have that waiting. So no, I would think that
if there. I do think fact that you could see
another trade. I don't think it'd be something monumental, but
I think you could see another trade.

Speaker 3 (01:20:56):
Zig Yeah, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
I think absolutely if there's somebody that you really want,
uh and you don't have to you don't want to
give it an opportunity to go to waivers or what
you would say, I want to secure that person.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Yeah, I could say y's making them trade next wave.

Speaker 7 (01:21:12):
That D line linebacker is more of a concern for
the Browns than wide receiver going into these cuts.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Yeah, I'm not as worried about receiver thrashes look good.
You got Tillim, you got Judy, you got Isaiah Bond.
Now and you've got Harold Fannon who's shot in his touchdown,
split out wide and runs a bang eight like the
playmaker wearing eighty eight for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Come, by the way, I love that bang eight is
back in our life. I mean I haven't used that
vernacular in probably twenty years. But we're back as a
gi Era and an IRV and aikman and we're all
back to saying bang eight. I love it. Yeah, I
think I'm gonna call every route of bang eight, even
if it's not. I just think it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
But the h only the eight gets it too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Only the eight gets it for sure. I mean for sure.
It is wide receiver was something that I thought we
could have worked around, although it would have liked more
talent in it before Bond. But then you get Bond,
and now I'm good. Like I think, I think you're fine.
I think you're more than fine. And you got the

(01:22:16):
two tight ends and no I linebacker is It's just
a lot of injuries, man. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:22:23):
One more fact for fiction non Browns Factor of fiction.
Trey Hendrickson will be on the field for the Bengals
when they come to Huntington bank Field in two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Fact.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Fact, lock lock, fact. Look, if you're I just we
went through in the morning. I went through every team
in the AFC North. He'd kind of previous with everybody
over the last couple of weeks. When you look at
this division, Baltimore has no notes. They are ready to go.
There's not a single question that you have on their

(01:22:54):
roster at all. In fact that I think they probably
have not Probably they have the most ure on the league,
in the league to go win it. Baltimore, for sure.
I have Buffalo's second, but I think they're most because
they don't have anything they have to be running out of.
Of Derrick Henry, it just I just he ran for
nineteen hundred and six a carry last year. Yeah, it's

(01:23:18):
crazy that he's still able to do that, But that
has to be slowing down at some point. Just other
nature's undefeated. Pittsburgh if Roger they won ten games with
Wilson and fields. If Rogers just plays to that level,
they're better everywhere else than they were a year ago.

Speaker 5 (01:23:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I mean their tight end room is crazy. Yep. They
got three three ones in their tight end room. We
forget they ha john Nehus Smith right, Daryl Washington's still there.
I mean they that's all there. And then the Bengals
most prolific offense. I mean they're going to average. They'll

(01:23:59):
be in the third score for any team. There's only
three times last year they didn't score twenty, So yeah,
they can. They can score with anybody. So, like the
hint brings us back to Hendrickson, they are looking now,
they're not. Nothing's guaranteed, but there certainly you do the
schedule game in Cincinnati, you're saying we're winning the opener.
Then we've got Jackson at home. We're we're going to
and zero, like, we're not digging no holes, going the

(01:24:20):
other way with it. So that's the way they're viewing it. Yep.
So yeah, I think they will get it all locked in.
Did you guys see the the Boomer size and stuff
from last week?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Unbelievable?

Speaker 7 (01:24:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely on brand.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
So if you miss this, So they have ten people
in the Ring of Honor, eight of them are still alive. Okay,
So apparently, and this is the one bit of context
that I think everybody should understand. If you are in
the Ring of Honor in Cincinnati, it is expected that
you return every year for the Ring of Honor ceremony.
That must be something that they agreed to, like totally, Well.

Speaker 7 (01:24:53):
It doesn't happen every year now, there's only.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
I think it has now. I think they do it
every year now. For the longest time, they didn't have
anybody in it.

Speaker 7 (01:25:02):
There's like, this is like number eleven and twelve going in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Yes, they have ten in. Eight are still alive. It's
Lapham and I forget who the other one that's going
in this year. But so they send Boomer this thing
and you've probably seen it by now, and he reads
out loud on his wf AN show what they're offering,
and they're giving him discounted rates on hotels.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
That's right, it's a wedding price, right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
So then o Cho Senko is like, hey, man, like,
how much do they got to pay for you? It's
kind of his view of it. But he's still I think,
trying to be ingratiated with the organization, whereas I think
Boomer's long past caring, right, anybody think at this point
long past caring. I think it's both absurd that you

(01:25:48):
by the way, like who in Cincinnati would even take
his money for a hotel room. They shouldn't, like if
you're the of course, yes, right, So it's crazy that
they're charging the eight guys who are from out of town.
It's probably not even that many. Someone might even live
in Cincinnati, might only be three or four. You got
to put up in hotel rooms like that, you wouldn't
just that's on us. You're coming in, that's on us.

(01:26:10):
We got the rooms.

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
Yeah, where you get your.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Suits at the wherever in a way you go, We'll
go eat at Ruby's place.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Blah blah blah. Yeah, that's the no brainer thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
No. I also thought it was crazy that he read
it out loud on his radio show. I mean, that
is sticking it. That's as embarrassing is it can I
would think, is about it as better? How it should
do that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
He should do that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I wonder if I don't know if he should.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I wouldn't make money, but it is well, they shouldn't
have done.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
It, I understand, but like, wouldn't the smarter The better
thing probably would have been, are you guys you know
like behind closed doors? Like, is you guys really making
me pay for my hotel room. Yeah, when I come
in to celebrate your organization, are we really doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Well, I mean it feels like pretty clearly they were
really doing that. I think he had the answer. I
don't think you needed.

Speaker 5 (01:26:52):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Yeah, I think he was embarrassing calling out this is
this is what we're dealing with here.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
It's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
No, no, it's not it is not. All right, we'll
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Speaker 17 (01:27:54):
Brown's up sixteen to ten, second and six for the
Rams win straight drop.

Speaker 7 (01:27:57):
Hunting ten gets to them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Let's go Aiden Huntington. Friends, he keeps.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
This up, He's gonna order the whole menu the next
time he goes to the Italian restaurant. Folks, That's what
he said. That's the dream. You keep working like this.
He has been relentless. He is a full in a
china shop. I love it.

Speaker 17 (01:28:16):
Aiden Huntington, six one, played at Tulane, but three years
in Kent State. Also had a cup of coffee at
Louisiana Monroe and to Caesar sal It played a one
tech outside linebacker fifteen and a half career sacks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Where's he play?

Speaker 17 (01:28:28):
I don't care where he plays. Just put him on
the field. Third and seven. Now Rams have a thirty
two yard line win. Back to throw, but yet he
goes down again.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Aiden Huntington, look at Miles Garrett, first guy on the field.
This whole Brown's bench is empty. And to give Aiden Huntington,
they ran a twist right there. He came around and
you could hear that one from up here. Dressler Winn said,
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getting mob by his teammates over there. They love him.

(01:28:59):
What's not the love Andrew? What is not to love
about this guy? Loops to the inside and then boom
crushes him. When you get Miles Garrett, the defensive player
of the year, ten yards onto the field to cheer
you on, you know you've made an impression on that
locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Man, How great is that? That is so good? Man?
We gotta let's go in there.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Give I promise, and I promise the pas and the
regular season.

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
I won't I would again again.

Speaker 7 (01:29:31):
Guys, opening week that's the big ship.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, preseason We're not right there weren't many
big moments in I'll joy yourself. I was like, we
have a breaking news. I said, for the rest of today,
it's gonna be known as Aiden Huntington Bank Field.

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think yes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
I think we'll have full I think full knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do think so. I think we'll
love the full knowledge of everything that's that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Be an interesting twenty four hours and an interesting couple
of days. And then, as I mentioned, everyone gets out
of town by the time you get to Thursday. So
if there is going to be and you've already seen
this day, so I McLaurin today, So Hendrickson back at
the table with the Bengals, mcloren gets done. The next
forty eight hours will be critical in terms of deals
getting done, in rosters taking shape. So yeah, something to
pay attention to on that side of things. The next

(01:30:43):
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