On the second day of training camp, hear from Browns GM Andrew Berry, QB Kenny Pickett, QB Joe Flacco, Rookie DT Mason Graham, and HC Kevin Stefanski.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the From the Podium podcast, where we feature
all of our daily press conferences rolled into one podcast
to help you get ready for the twenty twenty five
regular season. I'm Brock Danny he and on today's episode,
you'll hear from Keenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Mason Graham, Andrew Berry,
and Kevin Stefanski. On day two of practice, First up
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Browns GM, and Drew Berry gives his thoughts on the
state of the team going into the season.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Obviously a little bit of a different background for us
this year relative to last year. We don't have the mountains,
but it does not diminish the excitement that we have
for opening training camp this week. I always say it's
a little bit like the first day of school because
all your players are back in the building, your coaching staff,
your support staff. It's really it's great to it's really
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great to see everyone. I want to commend Kevin and
his staff, as well as our medical and performance groups
for the off season program that they put together. You know,
I thought it was it was chock full of competition
and and really filled with very rigorous work, and it's
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been great to see that continue through the early parts
of camp and obviously we're you know, we're really excited
for day two. Before I open for questions, I want
to talk a little bit about, you know, Quinchon's situation.
I'd start by saying that, you know, anytime a not
just a player, but a member of your organization is
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involved in a legal situation, and particularly one that you
know involves allegations of domestic violence, you lose a ton
of sleep over it, and you lose a ton of
sleepover it, not just because of the seriousness of the allegations,
but also because of you know, the amount of like
time and energy you spend you know, really vetting any
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person who comes in to your organization, and then probably
for us in the in the past two years in particular,
the amount of you know, time and resources we've spent
on you know, the education, you know, the education part
of it. You know, with our you know, not just
with our players, but with our whole organization.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
When this happens with a player, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Obviously these incidents they become you know, very very highly public,
and our view is our primary responsibility, initial responsibility as
an organization is to gather as much uh information and
particularly quality information you know as possible. Rarely, even though
it's a you know, a you know, a highly public incident,
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you know, rarely does all the information become public or
easily accessible, you know, which is why it's so important
for us to you know, you know, work through the
legal process where with investigators obviously communicating to your information.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
With the league.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But it's not until that time that we get enough
information and enough quality information that you know, we will
determine or decide the next steps of what to do
with that, you know, with you know, with the player
or the employee. So in terms of quinche on specifically,
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we're still gathering information, you know. Sometimes you know, that
process occurs quickly. Sometimes the information comes a little bit
more slowly, but we're still in you know, really probably
the information gathering stages with him. That and given the
fact that he's still in an active, you know, legal situation,
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there's not much that I can comment specifically on his
you know, specifically on his case at this point. But
as we get to the point where we have you know,
enough information to determine the next steps, you know, we
will certainly do so.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The last thing I'll say by before I open it
up to you all is.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Look, you know, we don't want to be up here
on day one, you know, talking about this. You know,
our players don't, our coaches don't, our fans certainly don't.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Shoot.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't think you all do.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And so you know we're gonna obviously, uh, you know,
deal with you know, that situation on a day to
day basis as appropriate. But our focus you know, will
really be on you know, preparing the team for our
opener against Cincinnati in September.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So with that, I'll open it up the questions.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
We have to wait until his U quinch On's leal
situation is dissolved before you sign him.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know, Jeff, I'd say in quin Sewn specifically, it's
like it's it's to be determined, like right we we
we are still gathering information. So in terms of in
terms of those decisions you know, signing, you know, being
a camp and everything like that, it's, you know, honestly
probably too early to make any type of determination. So
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as we gather information, we'll have a better a better
a better view on that.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Can he is he not signing him or letting you go?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Is that on the table?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm sorry, does not signing him or letting you go,
you know, Dan, The way I would say is, like
I have learned in you know, many of these you know,
off field situations, not to go too far into the future.
We'll deal with the day to day like you end
up using a lot of you know, sort of mental
energy in terms of you know, hypotheticals and things of
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that nature. And rather we'll we'll focus on gutting the
information and then and then making the right decisions.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
So were you satisfied with your Betty process?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Would you yeah, I'll I'll tell you this Tony, Like
for you know, all of our players, you know, we
spend a ton of time and energy, use a variety
of sources, you know, background, legal, to to make sure
we understand understand the people. Like any process, like you know,
you always look to refine it, you always look to
to improve it. And one of the things that we've
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probably looked through in i'd say this space in general,
you know, is is really like you know, the education process.
Like you know, one thing that that we've learned is
with you know, domestic violence issues. There's no you know target,
population target, you know demographic target, you know, you know
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history and you know one of the things that we
wanna make sure that we do with all members of
our organization is provide the resources, support and education so
that all of them can have safe, healthy domestic partnerships.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Andrew and l looking back at the last two years, though,
this is the third player that has spaced something like
this and you had better than might call too. I
guess just what more do you feel like you guys
need to do when just working throne like this is
a pattern that guides.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Feel like it's acceptable in the Yeah, I I I
I definitely don't think guys view it as acceptable.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Actually, you know, one of the things that you know
we had done over the summer, probably over the past
couple of summers is is talked to a number of
experts in you know, in this in this area, and
it and it you know, it probably goes to you know,
to to Tony's question in terms of, you know, the
education piece for us where there isn't always necessarily a
pattern in terms of you know, the demographic or the
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pop you know, the population you know, and and the
the incidents can take a variety of a variety of forms,
not necessarily speaking to like our our specific players and
so that really kind of led to, you know, our
approach to to really kind of ramp up the education
to make sure that there was.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Enough awareness, strong awareness.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And honestly, so guys realized like, it's not just this
could happen to this, could this could be someone else,
you know type problem, and how important.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It is to have the tools ready for healthy relationships
and good partnerships.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
And I'm sorry, go ahead, what is specific programming and
resources look like in that regard for this organization?
Speaker 6 (08:04):
What are some of the things that you guys have
been viewed?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, So in you know, twenty twenty four, uh, we
invited Sabrina g uh you know Greenley. She uh spoke
about her story directly to you know, our guys. We
actually invited uh Lisa Friel, who's the senior vice president
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Special Investigations for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
She obviously sees all these incidents across the league, to
talk to and educate our guys. We actually, you know, R,
you know, R you replaced that uh education module cause
you have a couple of mandates for like from the league.
But we thought, you know, Lisa uh and her team
would actually be a more effective in that space. We
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also added a module, uh, you know regarding sex stortion
in some of the situations in that case, to to
make sure that our guys understand, you know, what you know,
what these situations can look like and what are the
proper resources and tools so that they could make sure
that you know, we have the the behaviors that you know,
quite honestly are acceptable.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
In the community.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
And your last year, Whke Hall was back out here
on the field the day after his arrest of a
and so I'm wondering did you guys learn from that?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Was that too soon?
Speaker 10 (09:17):
And it's you know, if that was the case, you know,
so be it. But why is this situation so different
where it's taking so.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Long to figure outs going so so, Mary Kay, that
probably goes back to what I talked about earlier in
terms of the information that we had at the time.
All these situations are different in UNIS and you know,
the information that we had at the time with Mike
was was different than gwinn Sean. The other thing I'd
add is any decision for you know, follow up, you know,
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whether it's you know, reintegration or discipline or you know,
removal from team activities, those decisions aren't made in a vacuum.
Those aren't you know, those aren't football decisions. Therewith uh
a variety of people that have different expertise, you know,
many of whom aren't in football operations. So each situation
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is different, and I would be you know, I don't
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You should necessarily uh map one to the other.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
So is the league involved in in this process in
sort of helping you guys to journey in what the
right course of action right now?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Is information? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You you always think communication with the league, so like
there always is, there is some natural dialogue.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But honestly, like the league, the league's role is probably
more in the you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
In any potential investigation or vetting, as opposed to as
opposed to that.
Speaker 11 (10:36):
So and.
Speaker 12 (10:38):
Let let me go here and I'll go with you, Daryl,
So Andrew is the framework of a contract there, it
gets a lot gain the second round picks is resolved,
It just starts a pause on it from both sides,
I'd say, like in j in general, obviously the second
round was unique this year.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Now it's pretty well slotted, you know, so uh, you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Know, whether there's a formal framework in place, like maybe
the technical answer is no, But in terms of where
that slot should should land.
Speaker 13 (11:07):
That's yes, that's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Go ahead, Dryl of.
Speaker 14 (11:11):
Confident already iss you you should put through like you're
vetting process and you're you know, going across the country
and doing research on just the wide range of guys.
And you know, it's not confident orty that you get
the information that you're receiving, especially from the red flag
character abortion.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
You're getting the full picture. You're getting an acutar picture.
Speaker 14 (11:30):
And I understand that you're talking about apployment and there's
some sensitivities in there as well, but like, do do
you feel like that people are being open and honest
with you when it comes to uh, some of these
prospects and in the pre draft information you're downing.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I think a big part of the pre draft
process is knowing you know, who the reliable sources are.
But Darryl, you know, when you know we talk about vetting,
it's not about just you know, flying in talking to
a position coach or talking to a support spat. Pretty
extensive legal checks, pretty extensive uh you know, background checks,
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whether that's with.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know, compliance office on campus.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We actually employ a third party, uh company that does
all of our security in background, so everything from if
a guy has a speeding ticket to you know, something
more serious, that's something that's accessible to us.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That being said, it's funny we had you know, we
had Monty McNair in for like we call it a
we used to call it Scout school. It's a football
operation summit, former general manager of of of the Sacramento Kings,
and we were talking about like, hey, like, you know,
background process.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
How did you guys go about it with you know,
with the Kings. And he was saying, you know, one of.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
The things they study is like, just like anything else,
it can be noisy, like to your to your point
where it's like, okay, how many guys that we identified
as let's say, you know, tough or smarter whatever ended
up ended up actually being that and the reality that
their sense like you know, things change. But like to
get back to the the the broader point, Daryl, you know,
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it is important to you know, we have a large
web sources. It isn't important to know who's who's who's reliable.
Speaker 9 (13:11):
But to leave it it just.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Maybe hearsay is the wrong term, but to leave it
it just like you know, an interview on a campus
with like a coach or an academic advisor. You know
that's that's not nearly enough. And and and we use
way more resources than let me do Scott first and
then a Tony from a.
Speaker 15 (13:31):
Football perspective, Andrew, I mean, you spent you know, the
thirty six picked on the draft, and we don't know,
you don't know when he's gonna if he's gonna be,
when he's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
So how big a blow is in especially to an offense.
Speaker 15 (13:41):
Did once we commit to the runking.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'd say this, we'll deal with that day to day,
you know, and we'll see where we where we shake
out in that position room.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I think we're excited for a number of.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Individuals who are in that room, and we kind of
really want to see how how how things play out,
certainly in the short term, before.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know, making any u you know, quick judgments or assessments.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Speaking of speeding tickets, what was your opinion of the
shoulders to excessive scheme voilations?
Speaker 11 (14:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Not smart, just not just not smart. And it's something
that we've addressed, uh with him. You know, he understands
the implications he understands the.
Speaker 14 (14:22):
The the.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
The consequences. And I think the thing is, like, it's
not just about yourself, right, It's not just about you know,
having enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's not just about you know, driving a car really fast,
but it's about the fact that you can endanger other people.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It's about the.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Fact that if a deer or someone you know cuts
out in front of you, like your reaction time, it's
just dangerous and it's not something that we want our
guys to be doing.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's not something that they should be doing.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And the number one reason is because we don't want
some type of catastrophic apps like, right, we saw that
you know two years ago and what was it Dallas
or Houston with a you know, with a player, and
in that incident, everybody was lucky to walk away, and
we don't want that occurring in you know, with with anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
In our organization.
Speaker 16 (15:19):
On football quarterbacks, do you see a pathway to have
four an opening day roster? I do is that you know,
in light of the theset that a quarterback is or
having sixty nine with the practice squad and.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You can kind of hide. I'd say this is like.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
We've largely looked at the last five spots for rosters
more developmental spots, and that can come from any any position.
I also think with the roster flexibility nowadays, especially with
like the elevations that you're able to have on the
practice squad, there's just more flexibility in terms of how
to build your forty eight game eight forty eight man
game day roster, where it's maybe not as quite as
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restrictive in the past. Now that being said, when roster
rules were more uh, let's say draconian. Uh, there have
been teams that have carried four. So if there are
four that are fifty three man worthy and we think
it makes the most sense for us to keep them, Google.
Speaker 17 (16:13):
Andrew, As you've progressed throughout your GM career here, do
you think your philosophy philosophy on players with character concerns
has shifted it all?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Have you become less averse over the years?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, I wouldn't say that, Nate, that uh have
become you said less averse? Mm, I'd say I honestly
like that typically has not been a well where we
wanna dip into it aggressively. Now, what what issues like
I think character cannot times be a very broad term,
like what issues that we're we.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Think that we can support.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'd say that's maybe more what weakness as we say
we can support, like whether a guy has.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You a mental concern or some you know, some issue
with you know, with with you know, life skills, things
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know, those are things that we can support, but
you know, players with maybe more serious issues, like we
typically haven't had.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
An appetite for those guys.
Speaker 18 (17:11):
Andrew, when it comes to the decision on the starter,
I wanted to ask, like will that solely be.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Uh Kevin decision?
Speaker 18 (17:17):
And I and I wanna frame it in a context
of you already acknowledge that you acquired an extra first
round pick MM draft that's supposed to be strong quarterback
give too nicky quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Most people would just say able moves.
Speaker 18 (17:28):
You to like see what you have in those guys
and as opposed to you know, putting Joe or Kenny
out there.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So like, how how will you as a as.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
A general manager kind of you know, that's good, It's no,
it's it's it's a good question, right like cause look,
let's call what it is they're like at times is
maybe a little bit of the tension in terms of
your future versus future versus present.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But like, that's really not the way that we look
at it, Daniel.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We look at it is like, hey, let's let's have
all these guys out there, Let's like see how they perform,
Let's see what their strengths and weaknesses are, and you know,
building offensive support around the around the around the starter
when when Kevin's ready to name it, I would say,
more generally to your question, you know, Kevin and I
might be the ones who talk more about the quarterback
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position for you all, you know, throughout the next couple
of weeks, and it's something that you know we'll talk
about consistently. I think you guys know us well enough
that you know we work really well together in that regard.
But at the end of the day, like I trust him,
you know, I mean like I trust his I trust
his discretch.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I trust our coaching staff in terms of who they
want to who they want to play.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And I think we'll get a lot more information over
the upcoming weeks and we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Take a couple more king and you along the lines
or go back and running back. I think you said
you're excited.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
About the guys that are here in that world.
Speaker 19 (18:42):
But is there any thought to especially just still here
when you want a lot of bodies, You can't potentially
adding everybody to the.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Boss if there's a player that makes sense, you know,
of course, like and that would be across any you know,
any position in terms of let's say the more like
tactical like functioning through camp or getting through the next
several days.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think we're in a good spot and we'll hopefully
be in a even better spot.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Is like, you know, we work through you know, a
couple you know, Mike minor tweets and injuries, things like that.
Speaker 14 (19:13):
Andrew, you won three games last year, So what id
are realistic expectations for this team?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know, it was not a real good product to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, And I you know, Terry, I think I probably
tell you every year when we do the you know,
the the the uh interview before the before week one, every.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Year is unique. Every years every year is different. It's
not you know. I was I was reading something.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know, with my with my former team, the Eagles,
where they they were they were bristling at the notion
of being called defending champions and saying like, hey, we're
not defending anything that was twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We're in twenty twenty five, and that's right. Like, that's
the case. We see it every year the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I think right now, Terry, like, our mentality is, let's
learn this team during training camp, Let's get good, meaningful
competitive reps, let's see how young players can progress, let's
determine roles, and then we'll go from there. You know,
the expectations talk things like that. You know, that'll be
a conversation for another day. I'm sure I'll have just
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as unsatisfying of an answer, But you know, we're really
looking forward to to really doing the work and dealing
with it on data.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, you've put you put the roster together, and
you looked at what was last year we brought on
these guys for this year. When you look at this,
why would you think it's going to be better? Yeah,
I think Terry, that you know we are.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
We are very optimistic about a number of the players
that we have on the roster. Quite honestly, I really
like where our offensive scheme, in our offensive coaching staff is.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I think like the benefit of you know, having
a lot of young.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Players that that are likely we'll see how the roles
shake out, but you'll get more You'll get more playing time.
Is you know there are wide range really quite honestly
in both directions of of outcomes for that specific spot.
So you know, I think this is a year where
you know, we have the opportunities to see a lot
of growth, you know, with with some of the players
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who are gonna be given and earn uh new opportunities.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But like I said, we're gonna be focused.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
On the work.
Speaker 20 (21:26):
When would you used to have personally attend the Texas
up state game?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm sorry, would you attend to h Texas or own
state game? I can't tell you all my secrets, I
think Mary.
Speaker 10 (21:35):
Kay how yeah, younger, I wanted to ask you about
you were two? Uh can you pee guys in Whitehall
and DeShawn? Can you give us an updata when.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You think those guys might be ready to go?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So I tried to do this well last year and
I was so wrong in terms of what I told
you guys that I'm sorry. This year, I'm going to
the day to day route like I I just like
it and and like I I yes, we have an
an idea in terms.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Of what we think they may hit the field.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I have just learned by just being so wrong in
that with the tackles last year that I'm just gonna
I'm I'm gonna go the GM speak day to day
and we'll see.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
How they got.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
So you put j Ok on the season ending correct,
So does this mean that you have hoped that DeShawn
will be.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Contribute to you just.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Sometime on the field, Jeff, I'd say, like we're dealing
with the Shawan and Mike on a day to day basis.
Jok's and manately just like a much. It's just it's
it's just a unique situation, you know, with with his injury.
So that's that's a lot different than the other PEP guys.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Daniel, I was just gonna ask about Shawan as well.
Speaker 18 (22:45):
I mean I was gonna say, like, you know, you
in an initial statement, you gotta see he's gonna miss
most of the season. So if that hasn't changed, like,
how likely is it FeAs how feasible is it that
he really can't play the season?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We'll we'll see.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Day to day.
Speaker 21 (22:59):
Last one, first, Andrew, you said there's a possibility of
keeping off four two years Yeah, two years ago, you
were in a position where you traded it away a
veteran and then what transpired transpired to kind of put
you in a mine where you were forced to play
a young guy.
Speaker 22 (23:14):
Do you, uh, if you're in kind of the same spot,
how much does that you know what you went through
in twenty three kind of.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
In form twenty five. Yeah, it's a good question, Chris.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think the main difference in that year is we
were at three. So I think I've said multiple times
on the record that as long as we have three
quarterbacks that we think are fifty three man worthy, we'd
like to keep.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We'd like to keep three. That was a situation where.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
We felt like the opportunity again kind of wrestling with
a little bit the short term versus the long term
was too good to you know, it was too good
to pass up, was too good to pass off in
twenty twenty three, and you were able to manage it,
and obviously, you know, make the playoffs and everything. But
you know, that's maybe a little a little bit different
than where we sit today. If like we're in a
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situation and you know, we receive some trade offer for
one of the guys, and you know, we're sitting with
four guys on the active roster, that might be a
different set of conversations and considerations than if we were
carrying the having three planned until literally like the last
week of the preseason.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Second quarterback Kenny Pickett says, consistency is the key to
winning the starting QB job, And what is your mindset as.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
This open competition gets underway here in training camp? I
remember in that off season you've really.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Talked about that you came from.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
You're a start, and it's what you plan to do.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
How do you feel about that right now?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (24:37):
I feel great about it. And right now it's just
taking it a day at a time, you know, let
everything else play out. But you know, going back through
the installs, having a chance to train the system over
summer and work the full work and everything I think
helped me a lot. You know, I felt a lot
more comfortable yesterday just having a chance to rep a
out of those things over the last five weeks. So
really just taking a day at a time.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And yeah, you're.
Speaker 18 (24:58):
Curious from your perspective, I mean we've talked about how
like it's so unusual to have like a four man
quarterback competition, and maybe you're not getting as many as
reps as you would in like a normal training camp practice.
But like what is before practice, what does after practice
look like?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What does like the data data look like?
Speaker 18 (25:13):
To make sure that even though you might not be throwing,
you know, twenty five times in a practice, you know,
you're you're you're s locked in, you're getting as many
reps in the experience experience as you need.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
Yeah, I think, uh, you gotta find ways to steal reps,
whether that's you know, on the field, watching you know,
when you're not going, watching the other guys in there
after practice, staying and throwing the spots that you may
not have gotten to the plays that you you weren't
able to run, you know, put receivers in spots and
just throw those routes, work the full work and work
the timing that way. Film room watched everybody's reps in film.
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So there's multiple ways that you can do it.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
You know.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
I think it's big to get the mental and the
physical reps as well. You know, staying after and doing
the extra stuff to uh to get those reps is huge.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Describe how this is gonna play out over the.
Speaker 15 (25:57):
Next few weeks as far as how many reps you're
gonna get where you're gonna go with when he even
might make a decisions.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He talked about that.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
No, I mean we don't. It's really like I said,
a day at a time, you don't know like what
you're gonna get that day. You're just kind of showing
up and prepared to I mean, I I think every
guy here is prepared to go play the entire practice.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You know that.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
That's how kind of how I look at it. You
don't know what you're gonna get, so uh, whatever whatever
schedule for that day, I want to make sure that
I know everything inside and out, so whatever reps I
do get, I can take advantage of it.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Kenny, and you comptable in this offense? Are Is it
a lot different.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Than what you've been in the past.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
Yeah, I am comfortable. It's it's a little bit more
understanding than I've had, you know, to do in the past.
Kind of bouncing back to what I said earlier, having
the five weeks in the summer to really rep more
of it. You know, going into the spring, I had
an idea of what we were gonna do, but then
get into experienced spring and get those reps and then
go home and work on you know, those things and
really hone them, hone in on them, you know, I
think helped me a lot and I felt a lot
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more comfortable.
Speaker 22 (26:50):
What specifically did you did you do like during your
time Marvel to kind of really honed in on you know,
whether it was you know, just you know watching the
home were you know, was there specific things that get
felt like really were most beneficial for you?
Speaker 23 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:04):
I think, Uh, I would go home and you know,
throwing two or three times a week. I would treat
those days that I would throw like an install day,
so you know, install one. I would go home, watch
the tape, study it, and I would write down all
the routes and the uh footwork that I wanted to do,
and that day was like install one day. And I
did that throughout the summer and all my thrown sessions
to kind of like you know, almost cheat a little
extra practice, you know, to to to look at the
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scripts from the spring, look at all the installs, put
plays together, say the play, run the play, throw the route,
you know, just trying to cheat the reps cause y like,
like we've been saying, you may not get as many
as you like. You just gotta take advantage of what.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
You get getting.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yesterday you started things off on your love on the
eleven two drills and then that's obviously gonna change, which
as Kevin as he said, But for you getting those
extra reps, Wal you kind of sits to the side.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Has have you seen that help you create chemistry?
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Get those maybe extra reps that you were talking about
as you try to get acclimated and get yourself ready.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, those are huge.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Whatever you can get with the guys in live speed,
especially going against the defense, you know, full eleven on eleven,
you know, calling the play in the huddle, breaking the huddle,
lining up, knowing where guys are gonna be, the timing
of the play, how each guy runs his route, it all,
it all plays into playing quarterback at a high level.
So whenever you can get those reps and and that
experience a huge.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Did you get together with Joe Flacco or any of
the Browns receivers.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
No, I had some family things going on over summer
and we didn't get a chance to do it. But
you know, luckily we have a six week camp to
make up for it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Anny, when you've got traded to Clete one, what was
your first reaction course then.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
After that.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Quarterback, Yeah, I was just excited. It's an opportunity to compete.
I mean, that's all you can ask for. So, you know,
having an opportunity to to compete against these guys, and
it's a great room. We're having a lot of fun
already together. But really it was the opportunity that I
was most excited about.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Say you go back even just two years, how much
good for a NARDU.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Now as a personal quarterback?
Speaker 9 (28:50):
A lot? I mean, it's you. You experienced so much
of life. I think being an NFL quarterback, you you experienced.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
The highs, the lows.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
You know, I have, I have an believable support system
that I can lean on. But you just go through
so many trials, and you know, adversity you learn a
lot about yourself, a lot about the people around you.
So I'm grateful for every experience that I've had. I
feel like it may be you know a better person,
a better player.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Today when you.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
Talk about about yourself as a player, is you've gone
through this, going from Pittsburgh anti Philadelphia and now.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You're here in Cleveland.
Speaker 15 (29:20):
Just what do you learned about yourself.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
As a player that can make you a better Yeah.
I think the ability just to buy into whatever system
you're in. I've been in different systems, you know what.
I feel like I have the ability to play in
a lot of systems with what I can do inside
the pocket and outside the pocket. So buying into the scheme,
buying into what the coaches are telling me to do,
and then just you know, leaving it all out there,
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working hard every day. So it's not gonna be done
in one day. It's not gonna be done in two weeks.
It's You've got to show up and be your best
every single day. So that that's really what I'm focused
on doing.
Speaker 15 (29:51):
When you're talking about the opportunity to have the chance
to start, so how important is it to you at
this stage and your creative capit an opportunity It is
a few more real in training camp than it did
maybe and made you.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Yeah, it's definitely more real now. Obviously the season's you know,
almost here, but you know, like the in the spring,
you're really you know, it's kind of trial and everything.
You're feeling out the offense. It's a new system for
everybody here. So we were kind of working through the
kinks of it, I'd say having the five weeks to
train and work at what I know that we were
gonna do to come back now and now it's time
to sharpen everything up.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
And get ready to go.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
So I think you know that the the springtime was
a great time to work things through and now it's
time to govern.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Could you splain some offen me just ifually have a
little confused.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
You talked about those five weeks when you're you know,
was that between Mini camp and now?
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Yes? Yeah, right after Mini camp. You know, I have
my quarterback coach in New Jersey. Those five weeks, you know,
being able to go through the playbook and installs all
over again and treat those days like practice, making like
a mini script up to go out there and practice,
I think it helped me a lot. And then who
all receivers around the area.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Well, feels like be able to really next work out
there a lot of plays you to involve each other with.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Him and what what has he gotten out of you?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (31:10):
No, he he's got my full trust already, you know, Jerry,
you watch him on tape. It's one thing, but to
go out there and play with him is another. His route,
running his technique, his ability to find space and zone.
You know, he's a he's a full package receiver and
he makes you know, our job his quarterbacks a lot easier.
So uh, he's also a great guy to work with.
He comes with a great attitude. He you know, he
wants to win. He wants to work hard. So it's
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it's really easy to work with the guy like Jerry.
What do you have to do?
Speaker 18 (31:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And what do you have to show to win this
starting job?
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Consistency? I think that's what you know. Coaches, you know,
are looking for the guy that's consistent, that's the same
guy every day that they can count on. They can
call any play. They know that we'll get him out
of a bad play. If the shots called and it's
not there, we'll check it down. So just you know,
good quarterback play that can help this team win games,
because that's what it's all about. You know, we're all
here to win and that's all. That's all I'm concerned about.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Is it different coming.
Speaker 24 (32:08):
Into a season, uh, as your third team rather than
as a first round pick? So again, is it different
for you coming to a new team, your third team
than it was being their first round pick?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
In this way.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
I wouldn't say so. I mean just you have to
attack the day and want to be the best player
that you want to be. So I think as long
as you keep that mindset, whatever the outside perception is
of of your situation, you know, as a player, that
doesn't really you know, hinder my you know, ability to
go out there and play at the level that I
know that I could play out What is.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It like about the system that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Really helps you the way you play quarterback, the way
it's set up.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, I think it's very versatile. I think we do
a lot of different things, whether it's under center in
the gun, the play action game, the drop back game,
some movement things where I can get out on the edge.
There's a lot of things that I think you know
fit how I like to play quarterbacks. So yeah, I
have been. Yeah, I have been, not at the level
or the amount that we are here now though.
Speaker 17 (33:07):
Kenny, obviously you have Joe Flacco you talked to about this,
But I was wondering, have you been able to talk
to any quarterbacks outside of the building who played in
the system before and picked their.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Brain, not not specifically in this system. There there's a
couple that are like this system, but really, you know,
Joe the best guy to ask, you know, the guy,
he's been around, he's played in the system before. So
having him in the room and on the field, you know,
to bounce questions and and talk some talk through some
things has been beneficial to all the guys in there.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
How is your relationship with him development.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
It's been It's been awesome. Like it feels like you're
almost like talking to like an older brother or something.
Wh here and there, like he he's a great guy.
Where we're from, you know, about an hour from each other,
so you know, from the same area.
Speaker 20 (33:50):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
He trained at Test Football for the combine. That's where
I trained as well, So there's some there's some crossover
in our past. You know, he went to PIT. I
know a lot of casts. I know, I'm a pit
and everyone you know raped about him, and you know
everything's held true, you know to this day. He's He's
a great guy, great guy to have in the room.
Speaker 25 (34:04):
Can you in terms of your mobility, do you feel
like that's when you will have an opportunity to really
step it up in this competition, when you have a
chance maybe in two minut drills or practices against the
even the games where you can make some off schedule plays.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
And show what you can do in that starpody.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Yeah, I I think it's another element that that I
can add, you know, uh from the competition standpoint, you know,
I can't control you know what other guys do. Just
focus on what I can do, and I know that's
something that I can bring, you know, to the table,
to to this offense, and we do a lot of it,
which I like Kenny Lill.
Speaker 15 (34:36):
This team is put an emphasis a creating pressure of
the midal You know, we just talked to Mason Brand.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
What does that do to you?
Speaker 15 (34:41):
With what kind of problems that call?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, you just have to operate fast.
Speaker 9 (34:44):
You have to know where your answers are. You know,
if if if you're in a play where they're bringing
pressure nowhere to get the ball out. You know, it
helps sharpen your skills as a as a quarterback when
you're playing against a caliber defense like we are every
single day. You talk about just the guys up front,
you know, the front seven, but that's the secondary comp
you know, there's a lot of really good players there.
So I think it's it's huge for you know, as
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quarterbacks backs, receivers tight ends to go against this level
of competition every day. It'll only make us better. And yeah,
I'm excited to you know, it's only been day one.
We're on day two now, but it's been good so far.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
It is interior pressure harder to deal with them.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
Pressure off the end, Yeah, I mean listen, if they're
getting pushed back up the middle, there's nowhere to step up,
you know, if it's if it's on the edge, you
can step up in a pocket and make a throw.
With the interior pressure, it adds an element of you know,
trying to find an escape lane if there is one.
And uh, you know, we got some guys that are
gonna cause a lot of teams problems.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
So with the trad NFL h towards more pass rushing,
defensive cackles and you know, having everyone across the board
that can get to the.
Speaker 18 (35:40):
Quarterback, is that where your mobility.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Will probably come in handy just in terms of being.
Speaker 26 (35:45):
Able to get out of there.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that can help. But you
really just want to you know, know where your answers are,
Like you know I said earlier, you want to get
the ball out of your hand. You want to help
the offensive line. You know, you don't want to sit
back there holding the football too long. But I also
know that I have ability to extend and make plays
down fields. So there's a fine line between both. You
go out there, you play fast, You just kind of
read and react and go from there.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Next quarterback Joe Flacco talks about how he has involved
his family and his off season training.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
So I think it camp we've talked about, You've taken
furious off and then you start yesterday and you took
that period off.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Do you expect that to change at closer.
Speaker 13 (36:18):
You get to Caroline up, you know, it's tough to
have expectations, you know. I think there's been some communication
between probably all the quarterbacks and Kevin. So yeah, I
guess I know a little bit what to expect, at
least for the next week, But you can't ask me.
It's it's hard for me to tell what it's gonna
look like, you know, two three weeks from.
Speaker 15 (36:40):
Now, when I know Kevin said he's looking to make
a decision sooner rather than later. But is there a
date in your your mind where if you're the guy,
you want.
Speaker 13 (36:49):
To know that you're the guy? I think there's like
ideal situations obviously, and then there's just like the reality
of the situation. And you know, it's one of those
things that I really don't have any control over. So
I'm really not worried about when anything happens. Obviously, there's
advantages to knowing, you know, earlier than later, but I
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I I it's just part of the game, Joan.
Speaker 18 (37:12):
I ask this, and it feels a little more relevant
to you because we've seen you, you know, maybe not
take as many snaps during practice, but like, what does
the day to day look like for practice after practice
where if you're not getting as many reps, you're still
you know, staying locked in and stand prepared.
Speaker 13 (37:24):
And game well, it's the same. I mean, like you're
still out here grinding and going through a lot of
individual I mean yesterday, come on, I mean we we
ran like twenty plays total. Anyway, you know, I I
It's not like we had a hit, we had a
heavy load. So yeah, it it's just staying locked in
a and focused during the meeting time, which is a
lot of what we're doing right now. Anyway. The thing
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for me is if like if you're not getting a
ton of reps out there and you're only getting a
certain amount of throws through individual It's just like maybe
keeping an equipment guy out and just playing some long
tolls or something like that, just to make sure your
arm's still getting the load that it's kind of gotten
over the last three four weeks as you're kind of
getting ready to come back.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So what you're saying some of.
Speaker 10 (38:01):
The problems uh howl, you asking how uh how determined
are you to win this starting job and what do
you have to do?
Speaker 13 (38:10):
It's tough to look at it that way. I mean,
I'm d I'm as determined as ever to just be
the best quarterback that I can be. And I I
got it.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You know.
Speaker 13 (38:18):
It's so easy to and and I do it. I'm
guilty of it. It's so easy to like look ahead
and like picture yourself as the starter and hearing that
news and things like that. But I really, I I
like second day of camp. Uh you know, I I
think the best thing for me is to just stay
in the moment and come out here and have fun
and like compete and just do what I love to do.
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I think that's gonna be the best way for me
to show what I can do and and and all
that stuff. So you know, I think there's a lot
of self motivation in order to be good at this
in this league, and that's always there. So I'm just
gonna continue to approach it like I always do.
Speaker 20 (38:54):
So from what you know of this system this year,
this play action more puble been in twenty twenty three
in west Brookline or the A, I would think it's
it's it's very similar.
Speaker 13 (39:06):
Like big it's a big part of what we want
this offense to look like. And I you know, I
wasn't here in training camp and the first half of
the season in twenty three. I know it was a
lot of what we did and and it's kind of
a lot of what this offense typically is just from talking,
you know, the way we're talking about it in meetings
and stuff like that. Like it it's it's a big
part and it's a it's important to us to be
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good at it.
Speaker 22 (39:27):
So Joe, you obviously you've you've done this a long
time in your process. How does it change between what
uh the end of mini camp to now, w how
did you kind of approach it this?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Does it you approach it me differently now compared to.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
To get ready for this point.
Speaker 13 (39:44):
I think you'll learn probably little things. Every year it's
based it's generally been the same. It is the most
important time, you know, like you're you're at home, and
then you and you and you get three months from
January to April or whatever it is February April, and
those are important to kind of get your body back
going and get back in shape. And then you kind
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of show up here and you put the work in
with your guys. But it's still a decent time away
from training camp. So the the trap that I think
you can fall in is just not having something in
place when you're young, going back home for five weeks
and being left to your own devices. If you don't
have that schedule, at least for me, like if you
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don't have like a kind of a set schedule, then
things start to lack and you start to like you
just slowly, Oh, I'm gonna work out two today, I'm
gonna work out of four, I'm gonna work out at six. Oh. Shoot,
the day got by. You know, it's just immaturity. So like,
just as my career is going on, just finding people
to hold you accountable and and make sure that you
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know it's not just you. Like believe me, being holding
yourself accountable is a huge part of it, and you
learn how to do that, but it's it's for even
the guys that are at the very top, Like it's
very helpful to have other people that can kind of
keep you to that and make sure you're ready. But
it's just giving your arm that load. Like I don't
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necessarily throw a lot, and before we come back here
for the off season, but leading up to this love
I listen. I love to throw, so it's a lot
of fun. And the one thing that's changed this year
is I'm out there with my family and I'm trying
to teach my boys three step, five step drops and
I'm freaking out on them because they're not getting it
right away and stuff like that. But I'm throwing a
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lot in those five weeks.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
And that's what you talked about, staying in the moment.
How much easier to do that in your eighteen season.
Speaker 13 (41:36):
And as a rookie, it's always a battle, man, It's
always a battle. It's always one of those things I
think you learn a little bit about. We were having
this conversation yesterday in the locker room with a few guys,
like just because guys are looking for advice and I'm
not a great giver of advice. But staying in the
moment is very important. And you do realize that as
you as you mature, and like you realize the moments
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man like that, why was I in the zone there?
And I still don't know if I have the answer,
like the perfect answer as to how to stay in
the moment. I know staying in the moment is super important,
but like the how to actually do that is is
the grind of it all. And I think the biggest
thing to do is just keep your head down to
you know, go in that meeting and attack that meeting,
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just like remind yourself of being present and really divvying
it up and doing one thing at a time.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
Historically, your sack total relative.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Shimmer was in twenty three five years.
Speaker 13 (42:32):
You play, and you know Lamar Jackson eats.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
So what's your philosophy on affording sacks?
Speaker 6 (42:38):
How have you done it?
Speaker 13 (42:40):
Listen, I I think you can look at every single
sack and it's very team oriented and and it's and
the and at the same time, the quarterback is very responsible,
you know, Like I think you could make both arguments,
you know, depending on what you're trying to say. But
the biggest thing for me is being on top and
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playing in the rhythm of the offense. And then I
think even in twenty three you saw it a little bit.
It wasn't like I'm just standing back there completely. Like
I think, when you are in good rhythm and you
do have the benefit of having five guys up front
that are really good at their job, that's when your
feet can kind of tell you, okay, it's time to
get out, you know, and it's time to do those
other things. It starts with me with playing in rhythm,
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being on time with my feet and then therefore being
on time to throat to get the ball out of
my hands. And then the added benefit is when you
are really good upfront, even a guy like me who
is not like my number one priority, will be given
chances to kind of get out and make some plays
with those in those kind.
Speaker 10 (43:39):
Of conditions that you have five children that are expecting you,
when this starting job will be the starting part.
Speaker 13 (43:47):
Yeah, I mean I went home and I went home
in the beginning of junior, like are you the starter yet?
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Like what you know?
Speaker 13 (43:53):
So, yeah, it's not added pressure. It's honestly a lot
of it makes it a lot of fun. It's it's
almost like takes pressure off because your your you you
that almost helps put me in the moment and see
it for what it is. You know, you wish you
could see it as a from a twelve eleven, twelve
thirteen year old's eyes. So when you when you hang
around them and you see the questions they ask and
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and the way they phrase things, it honestly kind of helps.
It helps put things in the moment and kind of
really really remind you of what's important and why this
game is is so important to you, you know, so
it's it's just a good reminder.
Speaker 14 (44:31):
So at the end of last year, was there any
sort of fear that I'm gonna end up on my
couch again, always.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Gonna call or anything like that.
Speaker 13 (44:38):
There really wasn't. Like I I feel like the last
two years, I really kind of went in pretty optimistic
into the off season. But then you know, the time
comes up where you get where you start signing guys
and you don't necessarily hear from people, So of course
that goes into your that kind of enters into your mind.
But I don't really think I have like a negative
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outlook on it, like there's only so many things. That
goes back to that there's only only so many things
you can control, and like you can go out there
and play the best you can in hopes of giving
people that like that vision of what you can do
for them. But if nobody bites, as long as I
can look at myself and and like have an idea
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that I did the right things that I and I'm
happy with what I did. You you you learn that
that's what matters, and you can't worry about the decisions
of other people.
Speaker 24 (45:32):
When you heard from Cleveland, then like kind of your
emotions and all that because you were out there for
a while before.
Speaker 13 (45:39):
Yeah, sure, yeah, and and and we had talked and
not talked, and you don't you don't know. I'm very
excited to be back here.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (45:47):
So to get the call from these guys and and
learn that they actually did want to bring me back
was very exciting and felt very good about it. Obviously,
do you everybody.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Throws in yourseltions can get it. Jamis Whinston last year
would pray to God to make it stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
They roll off your back. What's your philosophy on picks.
Speaker 13 (46:10):
You don't want to throw them. You want to be
aggressive and you want to be smart. You know, I
have thrown some picks recently, I feel like, but I
do still pride myself on not and making good decisions
and having said that, you know that they're gonna happen
at some point. You want to be aggressive, but that's
not necessarily an excuse, Like being aggressive is not an excuse.
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The goals of quarterback is to make good decisions, be accurate,
and take care of the football for your team. So
ultimately that's what you want to do, and you have
to find that balance of being able to be yourself,
be really aggressive and not turn that damn ball over.
It's very important.
Speaker 9 (46:49):
It's just one of those things.
Speaker 13 (46:53):
They affect me. Yeah, they maybe I don't show it.
I hope I do a good job of not showing it.
But man like, yeah, there's times where you turn the
ball over. And there's definitely times in your life as
a forty year old where you wish you were like
six years old and like it was acceptable to just
cry about it. You know, you can't hide on an
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NFL field, And there's times where you definitely want to,
but you got to deal with it. You got to
deal with it.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Man, you went through in twenty three and having to
wait for these guys to call you, Like, does that
give you a different tour? Did it give you like
a different outlet or appreciation for things like this, like
going through a position.
Speaker 13 (47:32):
Battle now and every Yeah, it definitely did. And like
especially right in the moment, like when it was fresh
like that, it does give you that outlook. Now that
only goes so long, but I think I can look
back on, like that was an experience that I got
to go through myself. So I so it's that's not fresh,
it's not in my mind necessarily, But when you're going
through when different thoughts are rattling around in your brain
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and you don't really want them to be there, that
is one of those experiences that I think that I
can draw on in my life and and kind of
remind my self of what I was feeling at that
time and why and I and and and that's part
of just you know, learning through experience.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
Do you mention that the offensive a strong offensive line
and strong front.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
We know that they're going through some changes to one
Jones playing we tackle.
Speaker 10 (48:13):
Coach up there.
Speaker 6 (48:14):
So for you as a quarterback, how important is.
Speaker 8 (48:16):
The communication and the work that you do on these
fields and getting them ready for that week.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Wanted to be a strong front that you need.
Speaker 13 (48:23):
Yeah, it's great to be out there with those guys
and and doing all that together. And at the same
time you have just I have the utmost confidence in
their coach and those guys cause I've I've been with
them and I I can see him working that they
are on top of their stuff. That's the last position
group that you're gonna have to worry about on this field.
So even if you're not directly working with them, you
know they're getting in their work and and dotting all
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their eyes, crossing all their teas to make sure that
you know they're on it.
Speaker 6 (48:48):
You're Joe. Can you Pickett?
Speaker 10 (48:49):
When he came in here and when he first UH
was acquired, he made it abundantly clear that he's coming
in here.
Speaker 6 (48:55):
UH to start.
Speaker 23 (48:56):
He does wanna sit and I know you feel samee.
Speaker 10 (48:59):
So just between YouTube guys, how you know what is
that like to be out there every day?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
You know that you know that you have to beat
each other out and.
Speaker 13 (49:09):
And what mindset do you have in Yeah, I I listen.
I think we're all aware of that, and you know
it's not necessarily talk about between the two of us,
but you obviously know what you have a little bit
of insight as to what they may be thinking and
and those things. But it goes back to like, that's
just focusing on like when you're focusing on Kenny or
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Kenny's focusing on me, and then we're super focused on that.
In general, it's kind of the wrong mindset to be
in to to be at your best. So you try
to It's natural for those things to come into your head,
but you try to do your best to to get
'em out and just go out there and and be
with the guys and be in the moment.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Was last season? What's keeping confidence they?
Speaker 13 (49:50):
You know, coming back you can kind of recapture what
happened in two thousand and twenty three. I I'm not
trying to recapture. You know, every year's a new, every
season's new, and this league and listen, I've been in
the locker room with these guys. I know what they're
all about. And it's obviously not the same exact locker room,
but there's a lot of really good guys in there
that know how to win football games. So that's what
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gives you the confidence that you can come back here
and win games. I don't think it's about trying to
recreate anything. It's just a it's a new season. Everybody
has a fresh mindset, and a lot of the guys
in there have a really good one to begin with.
They know how to win football games, and uh, that
makes you feel good about lining up with them.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
So there's got time for one more. We're ready about
just the intensity of training kIPS here.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
I know you have the word here for that twenty three,
but you've.
Speaker 6 (50:32):
Also been you know, a handful of other places where
you see out camping run.
Speaker 19 (50:37):
I know you talked about your two days back in
the day earlier in the spring, but even digging back
to the spring.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
View kind of sense that there's different thing.
Speaker 13 (50:43):
Yeah, listen, I think we're talking You can talk a
lot about how practices are actually structured, but I think
what we're talking about is just the mindset you know
of of a winner and a winning football team and
what that takes. And it doesn't matter if you're out
here for an hour or three hours. There's a way
that a winning team takes a field and approaches their craft,
and I think there's definitely a focus and you can
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definitely tell that that we're locked in too, you know,
make sure that that happens.
Speaker 17 (51:12):
Joey touched on earlier, but get into involving your kids
and getting ready for training camp. Like where did you
guys typically go what you know, throwing session.
Speaker 13 (51:22):
With Yeah, and it looked a lot like you know,
September October before I signed here, going out to a
local high school field with my brother and my dad
and my kids and having them spot up and throw
to them and kind of me do my thing and
then at the end bring them together and and have them,
you know, have a little bit of fun and uh,
you know, they're gonna they're gonna be playing football here
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in the next month or two months, and I'll probably
miss some of it, but I'll have a lot of
family back there kind of checking it, checking in on
them for me, and it'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Rookie defensive tackle Mason Graham is up next. He's looking
forward to being a problem for opposing offenses and making
an immediate impact.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Yesterday, they clicked my money in the set and all
you did go.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Uh felt good, you know. Coming off the spring.
Speaker 11 (52:05):
Uh, it was a lot of technique stuff, so I
kind of just worked on on the off season, you know,
completely different different technique that I'm used to from college.
So it's a little learning process, but I feel like
I'm starting to get it down and feel more confident
every day.
Speaker 26 (52:17):
Can Can you explain a little bit that adjustment and
how difficult it is due cause I think from the
outside you've seen interior alignment, it's like, oh, just you know,
rush the passer or whatever.
Speaker 9 (52:24):
So what what is different about what you.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Have to do here?
Speaker 11 (52:27):
Yeah, so I came in college, I was coming from
a react style defense to like a red react and
now I'm na attack penetration.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
So it kind of just the.
Speaker 11 (52:34):
Little details of you know, s not stopping your feet,
running through contact. You know, there's no such thing as
a double team anymore in our defense, and I'm used
to you know, taking on multiple blocks to gapping and
we don't do that here.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
So it's a little bit of adjustment. You know.
Speaker 11 (52:46):
We've had some guys that have also come from other
defenses like that that I have a little learning curve.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
So I think it's just part of the process measure
even throughout.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
The spring, like you were able to get through some
of that like growing pains so to see.
Speaker 11 (53:00):
In terms of getting used to this kind of tax style, Yeah,
I feel like everyone has a you know, even when
I was talking about my call last year, he came
from a kind of read react uh style defense too,
so he said he had a little bit of learning
curve too. So I mean it's just normal for guys
coming from that defense to this, and it's just a
learning curve.
Speaker 13 (53:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (53:17):
And then N, well, how was second of it didn't
look like you were reading and reacting?
Speaker 4 (53:20):
Was that a different game plan? N I was still
read and react there, but uh yeah, just a little
different here.
Speaker 7 (53:26):
I mean you were attacking a little bit more see individually.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
You Yeah, I mean, I'll I I don't really have
an answer.
Speaker 22 (53:33):
I don't know you wun last time we talked to you,
it was a rookie mini camp and you hadn't really
had an opportunity to really work with Miles. What's it
been like, you know, the getting out there on the
field and the meeting rooms and all that were you know,
and what have you been in what's the biggest thing
You've been able to take from those, you know, those
conversations with it.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Uh, just learning a lot.
Speaker 11 (53:52):
You know, he's been the best for a long time now,
So just being able to be with him on the
field and then just in the meeting rooms. Uh, you know,
knows the defense really well. He works hard. He's obviously
a freak athlete. So I mean now, m I mean,
I can't some of the things you he does, you
can't teach. But it's just cool to be around him
like a player like that.
Speaker 7 (54:10):
Yesterday, Denzel Award was asked which new players he most
interested in seeing developed her drend game.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
You mentioned you, it's the thing.
Speaker 7 (54:19):
It's what one of one of the leaders on the
a pro quarterback.
Speaker 9 (54:23):
Yeah, I think, uh single view out as the guys
that watch.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Yeah, it means a lot. You know.
Speaker 11 (54:28):
I'm I've been working hard and you know, just like
everyone else, and I wanna, you know, be a player
for this team that can make an impact right away.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
But it's offer weight question.
Speaker 9 (54:35):
Where are you now? We happen awkward weight question?
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Where are you now? Like two ninety two right now?
Where are you when you came in like three or five?
Speaker 13 (54:43):
Okay, so said this is where it want you'd be
as well.
Speaker 11 (54:46):
Yeah, I'll be like around this way, probably like two
ninety five, three hundred, very.
Speaker 6 (54:49):
Different coordinator for years now.
Speaker 12 (54:52):
Probably defensive scheme, anything that you learned about picking up
his scheme.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
And you guitar.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
He this current.
Speaker 11 (55:00):
Yeah, I feel like it's you know, like I said
about the learning curve. You know, once I get this down,
you know, I'll be more comfortable. And I've I me know,
every day I'm feeling more and more comfortable, so cause
I'll I'll have a little more time to you know,
get the full grasp of you know, the defense to
this jog.
Speaker 23 (55:14):
T backing spreads out even though you were in that
red and reacting style.
Speaker 6 (55:17):
Defense in college stas but you know on the tape.
Speaker 19 (55:19):
They call it your skill set and your ability.
Speaker 23 (55:22):
Still sort of showing through that it can sort of traning.
Speaker 19 (55:24):
So I guess do you sort of feel like you're, uh, like,
how do you just how do how has your tr
how does your skill set allow you.
Speaker 11 (55:30):
To show that transitional Yeah, I just feel like I'm
a playmaker in general. You know, that's what the type
of guys that coach Swarts and you know, everyone on
the defense wants, so you know, penetrating making plays, Uh,
even when you're not making a play, causing disruption stuff
like that.
Speaker 20 (55:43):
Have you been able to develop any relationship with get
other than being a teammate?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
I mean, do you you long enough to next.
Speaker 11 (55:51):
From Mom said, yeah, it's really just building the chemistry.
You know, we're gonna be playing with each other on
the field, so it's I know, these days like these
is big opportunities to build that chemistry, cause we're gonna
be playing next to each other, just like you know,
all the other guys along the front we the last.
Speaker 23 (56:08):
A couple of years, uh, the Brouns, and just would
have had you know, we known defensive end like a
big name.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
That's other than the sound of Fredency brought in opposite
a Moor.
Speaker 23 (56:17):
But in this instance, it's more sort of relying on
the interior guys.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Kind of help them, especially you next to him.
Speaker 6 (56:23):
Do you feel like, how do you feel as a
deeper exact.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
That you can help find you out and a lot
of miles or thaves more and sort of vice versa.
Speaker 11 (56:29):
Yeah, I mean I feel like, you know, everyone sees
that there's a lot of attention on Miles all the time,
So you know, if he's not getting the chip, he's
getting double team the or triple team at sometimes. So
you know, there's a lot of opportunity there, and you know,
maybe you know, if one of us starts, you know,
making some stuff happen, then uh, that'll take a little
bit of pressure off him and they'll give him some
free space. But uh, we're all just just building that chemistry,
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trying to work together.
Speaker 9 (56:51):
What did you feel.
Speaker 7 (56:52):
About the video here commune camp going fire roll?
Speaker 20 (56:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:57):
By that?
Speaker 20 (56:57):
Yeah? All uh dropping your cookies or did you get
a lot of rubbing about that?
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Nah?
Speaker 11 (57:01):
I mean obviously people talked about it, but I just
ate a little too much before practice, that's all.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
And the coach was fun. I you never left practice, yeah,
I I mean I threw up and then came right
back in. So basic.
Speaker 6 (57:11):
It just seems like, from from.
Speaker 19 (57:12):
What we've gotten to see for, you're such like a
low key guy personality wise, very humble, Like I'm not
all top five picks tend to have that.
Speaker 6 (57:19):
Jor like have you always kind of been like this
that were d just tell us a little bit.
Speaker 4 (57:23):
More about that.
Speaker 11 (57:24):
How you might get in the works was Yeah, I
mean I've always been like that, you know, I've always
come from you know, humble beginnings though I wasn't always
the highest recruited or most talked about guy. But you know,
obviously now I became into a top five pick. But uh,
that's besides the point. You know, it doesn't define who
I am. I just wanna play a good football and
you know, make this team better.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Do you still have to keep in touch with Touching?
Speaker 6 (57:46):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (57:46):
I didn't even play with him actually, so I I
came in the year after him, But you know, I've
talked to him before and I've met him, so it's
pretty cool feelings.
Speaker 23 (57:54):
I I I understanding sort of therothought process of being
a top up baby just gonna laid now.
Speaker 6 (57:59):
You still feel, you know, some level of pressure to you.
Speaker 23 (58:03):
Know, make sure you would up to where the runs
are at at you and especially if anything.
Speaker 6 (58:07):
Can trade it back to get you, and how their other.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Opportunities to bigger than what does?
Speaker 11 (58:11):
Did you feel any of that as you come especially
the year I mean obviously the you know, being a
top five fit comes with expectations that everyone expects you
to play. You know, I have those expectations for myself
it's just not you know, people saying that about me.
I have those expectations for myself and just trying to
get better and like I said, it's trying to be
an impact, you know that first game and even in
the preseason.
Speaker 15 (58:30):
We we talk a lot about the pressure off the edge,
But what about that interior pressure?
Speaker 5 (58:35):
Why is it so important to be able to generate
that or a defense?
Speaker 11 (58:38):
I mean, I feel like it's really important, you know,
just getting pressure off the edges. You know it can
cause the quarterback to step up, but you know when
the pressure inside as well, you know he's kind of
just suffocated the pocket.
Speaker 10 (58:47):
When we were dropped eighty was talking about how subidays
to high school, Like how did you how did your couches,
how did you make.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
In your life?
Speaker 6 (58:55):
Had that still say or to be an interior press
pressure and like how.
Speaker 9 (58:58):
Did that just kind of come? Like you ever part?
Speaker 4 (59:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (59:02):
I mean I started off as a linebacker in high school,
so I always wanted to be like a linebacker. I
always looked up to like Ray Lewis, James Harrison, uh
those type of guys. But I got bigger and then
I started working uh S my d line coach. He
played in the NFL UH for a little bit but
had some injuries. But I just worked with him, you know,
NonStop in high school, just trying to perfect my technique
and all that. Obviously, I I'm athletic and all that,
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but you know, I have to I pride myself on,
you know, my technique.
Speaker 6 (59:27):
Did they do you on the attitude to try to
respond to?
Speaker 11 (59:30):
Like, yeah, my freshman year I played edge and then
I started just gaining weight in lifting.
Speaker 7 (59:36):
You're talking about the transition to like school stuff.
Speaker 17 (59:39):
It just seems to be a big easier to attack
me of late that.
Speaker 13 (59:43):
So what is so difficult about the transition technical Like.
Speaker 11 (59:47):
I just feel like within the technique, you know, there's
little things like not stopping your feet. You know a
lot of times in the read to read the UH defense,
you stop your feet on contact, you know, brace for
the double teams when you know you're taught here to
just keep running your feet NonStop. So I just feel
like it's really just the muscle memory of what I've
been doing for the past few years. So it's just
kind of trying not to revert to the back my
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old ways.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
On the defense.
Speaker 11 (01:00:12):
Yeah, I guess so, Yeah, what's your deadline coach in
His name is Kelly Talava.
Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
He played for the Ravens for the few years and
then just he went.
Speaker 16 (01:00:22):
To the past Rush you can if you're during this soon.
Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Or just anything that you picked up.
Speaker 11 (01:00:28):
I mean, yeah, I've always worked with you know, I
was working out with the you know BT Jordan. I've
been working with him the whole summer, you know, when
we're in I was in Phoenix with him, Atlanta with him,
and Houston with him, So we were kind of just
I was kind of just following him, you know, working
out with you know, Malik Collins too in Houston, and
we were just kind of getting some d line working
and building the chemistry as well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Finally, head coach Kevin Stefanski provides his takeaways from yesterday's practice.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He will not practice today, but he's he's progressing.
Speaker 13 (01:00:59):
Well, did that happen in the issue?
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
No? Uh, this was something over the last.
Speaker 13 (01:01:04):
Couple of weeks maybe, but he he He'll be okay.
Speaker 26 (01:01:06):
What about Uh David and David will be out there today,
Jordan not Uh won't be out there today, but no, updated,
I'll upd I will update you guys.
Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
What appropriate on.
Speaker 7 (01:01:16):
Georgian Kevin, could you expound on your importance play your
actions as drums offense?
Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
How much time do I have?
Speaker 26 (01:01:28):
I think it's important probably to most offenses. And and
you know, the things that we do in our play
action game are gonna be different than other teams, and
I think there's so much that's the fun part for
me as a coach.
Speaker 22 (01:01:40):
Uh.
Speaker 26 (01:01:41):
A lot of teams run the same plays, including the
same play actions, but there's so much nuance to those
play actions and what you're asking the line to do
on those plays, what you're asking your receivers and tight
ends to do, how you read it as a quarterback,
what steps you take with the quarterback. So play action
really gets lump into, you know, a big wide swath.
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Of the game.
Speaker 26 (01:02:03):
There's some sort of playfake from the quarterback to it
another player. Sometimes it's not just a running back, and
you can be under center, you can be in the gun,
you can pull a guard, you can do it off
of all sorts of different actions. So we want to
have a varied scheme in general, and certainly play action
is a part of that, and only because we feel
like it is hard on a defense. I think a
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good play action play, a good play action scheme, a
team that's good to play action that that's hard on
a defense. And I know, speaking to defenders, being a
former defender myself, I know it's hard when something looks
like one thing and ends up being the other. Rookies
done much of the action or even quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(01:02:44):
both guys have done some. Uh, yep, some have done
some in college. You know, guys are the game in
some ways is the same. In some ways it's so different.
So uh, they're very fortunate to have coach Musgrave giving
them all the ins and outs of ball handling and footwork,
whether it applies to play action or anything. Coach muss
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is a stickler for all the mechanics that go with
playing the position.
Speaker 15 (01:03:12):
Why you've got away from that l philosophy last year.
Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Works so well for you in the past.
Speaker 26 (01:03:18):
Yeah, honestly, Jeff, not so focused on anything in the past,
really just focused on what we're doing right now. And again,
your offensive scheme is dependent on who your guys are,
what they're comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
With, what they're good at. You know, what's your offensive
line look like.
Speaker 26 (01:03:36):
And then obviously the big influence from coach Rees Coach
bloomngrin that type of thing.
Speaker 10 (01:03:41):
Do you embrace this kind of sweltering heat for your
guys or do you what's your message to them and
how do you worry about.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
People having issues?
Speaker 26 (01:03:47):
Well, certainly worry about it. I mean, we're going to
make sure we're safe out here. That's that'll never change.
So we don't want to put our guys in anything
that's ever not safe. So having said that, there is
part of acclimating to the heat and doing it in
very smart way. So we'll be out here for a
shorter amount of time, like like as we ramp up
into training camp, per the rules.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
We'll get our work done.
Speaker 26 (01:04:09):
We'll take a couple of breaks to make sure everybody's
getting hydrated. Our nutrient our dieticians are are doing a
great job inside making sure everybody's getting everything they need
from a hydration standpoint. You guys need to hydrate, Okay,
I don't want to losing anybody out here.
Speaker 16 (01:04:24):
Looked like he was gamed down.
Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Yeah, no, he'll be out there.
Speaker 15 (01:04:26):
Kim after Shader head to the speeding tickets. Did you
talk to him personally with yours?
Speaker 26 (01:04:32):
I did, Obviously, I'll keep that message between Shador and myself,
but I will tell you he knows this, and all
of our rookies know this. They need to make sure
that they're being safe. And that can be whether behind
the wheel of a car or they're in and around town.
They need to make really good decisions so that they're safe.
Speaker 15 (01:04:54):
With the quarterbacks, any warrior discussion at all about not
letting the competition interfere, they're gay gay.
Speaker 26 (01:05:02):
I've talked to our guys, you know, competing for a
starting roles, not new to football, not new to the
quarterback position, that that's just part of what we're doing.
And that's not the only position where guys are competing
for a job. I know that with the number of guys,
I know that's the the part that's unique. But they're
all wired the right way. They know to keep the
(01:05:22):
main thing the main thing.
Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
You look like questions here yesterday was doing.
Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
How how much a working.
Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
Earn the trust from the coaches.
Speaker 9 (01:05:33):
To do that very unusually.
Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 26 (01:05:36):
I think Carson's uniquely situated if if we need him
to do that, he's capable of doing that. I think, well,
you're trying to find out from Carson and all of
our rookies is what they're capable. We're trying to find
out about them. What are they capable of? Are you know,
can you call a defense?
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Can you?
Speaker 21 (01:05:50):
Uh?
Speaker 26 (01:05:51):
And not just Carson, I'm saying, can you line up
on the edge and rush the passer? Can you line
up in the backfield and catch a ball? If you're
you know, a wide receiver. We're trying to put those
guys in different spots to find out w what they
are capable of. That's that's our job right now in
training camp as we formulate uh, this roster, as as
we get this team ready.
Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
I don't know that we know the football team uh
in in July like you do when you get to September. Kevin,
you guys have a lot of receivers in offseason.
Speaker 14 (01:06:16):
I understand that that I had to do with how
you wanted to manage these quarterbacks. But no, outside of
you know, Jerry in Cedric group, what are you hoping
to see in this camp, uh, from the rest of
that position group to give you the the confidence that.
Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
Matter who you put on the field, you're gonna be
able to go out there.
Speaker 9 (01:06:35):
And make the play with the gas.
Speaker 20 (01:06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 26 (01:06:37):
I I I think it's it's a really good group, Darryl.
I think there's different skill sets throughout that group.
Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Uh.
Speaker 26 (01:06:43):
Obviously there's size with with some guys, there's there's a
little bit quicker fast with other guys. Uh, guys that
are better inside, guys that are better outside. So that's
our job to identify the traits an and then uh
design an offense to utilize those trade So I really
like that group.
Speaker 9 (01:07:01):
Nover.
Speaker 14 (01:07:01):
What do you think that dunk his office a while
Obviously Sampson I said to himself, what about him.
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
As employer or what do you how do Yeah?
Speaker 26 (01:07:11):
I like uh a lot about uh a lot of
things about dyl and Terry. I think he's uh proven
to be really really intelligent, which we knew that you
know you do. You do so much homework on these
guys and you put them through the process, uh prior
to the draft that so I knew that he could
handle a lot. But I've been really impressed with just
he picks things up very quickly. He doesn't make the
(01:07:32):
same mistake twice.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Uh.
Speaker 26 (01:07:34):
He he fits in well, he works really hard, got
a great personality. Uh, he's gonna he's gonna push himself
uh out here which I see him doing. And then
kind of to Tony's question earlier, we gotta find out
what he's capable of. We w we have to see
what he can do in this offense, and then if
he earns that role, can we expand that role.
Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
Joe mentioned that the intensity after of the preany cap
was really a mental thing, as it's about wanting to
win and be focused on getting. As a coach, is
there scandible way to like maybe help install that mindset
that you guys are looking forward to get the most
that a camp in that part?
Speaker 26 (01:08:06):
Yeah, I I I think, uh, certainly football you have
to be right mentally to play this game. And uh
so much of this our game uh is about winning
and losing and is about getting ready for September. But
there's all the little dirty work, the little things in
this building that that no one notices, that have to
get you ready for that. So I think, at least
(01:08:28):
mentality wise, for our football team, uh, we recognize that
the season's coming in September. But man, we got so
much work to do. We we we Uh, there's a
lot of some physical works and mental work. Uh, but
we're just gonna keep our head down and focus on
that work.
Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
When we talk to dos I Minni Canton. You talked
about Dylan Bean used a lot in the slot. Has
there been a shift given the situation money back, where
now he's more in the backfield maybe than.
Speaker 26 (01:08:55):
He had been to the other I I think, well,
there's just we can ask to I think m more
than anything, that's a product of finding like seeing what
these guys can do. So it's I wouldn't say it's
we're carving out those roles just yet. It's it's more
we want to see what a guy's capable of because
in this day and age, as you know, versatility is
(01:09:17):
really important. So if that's something he can do. But
I think we're still in wait and see mode on
Dylan in that regard. But also for a bunch of
these guys.
Speaker 12 (01:09:26):
Kevin, what have you thought of Mason Graham just because
he did a couple of pass rushing camps and work
with my league since Dan the mini camp.
Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Had come in here.
Speaker 26 (01:09:34):
Yeah, he's worked very, very hard going back to the
day he got on campus here with our coaches. You know,
he worked very hard when he was away from the
building before getting those guys back. But that's another young
player who I think is is is gonna get better
every day because he's just he's attacking it. He's not
a finished product.
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
He wants to work at it.
Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
And that's the right attitude for a young man like that.
Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
I always do it.
Speaker 13 (01:10:00):
Look says he's got on platform.
Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Yeah good.
Speaker 26 (01:10:02):
I mean we're only one practice in, but uh, he's
doing a nice job. Obviously, is working really well with
his new coaches, understanding there's some different nuance to what
we're doing. There's different terminology, those type of things. So
working very hard.
Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
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listening to the From the Podium podcast.
Welcome to the From the Podium podcast, where we feature
all of our daily press conferences rolled into one podcast
to help you get ready for the twenty twenty five
regular season. I'm Brock Danny he and on today's episode,
you'll hear from Keenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Mason Graham, Andrew Berry,
and Kevin Stefanski. On day two of practice, First up
(00:34):
Browns GM, and Drew Berry gives his thoughts on the
state of the team going into the season.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Obviously a little bit of a different background for us
this year relative to last year. We don't have the mountains,
but it does not diminish the excitement that we have
for opening training camp this week. I always say it's
a little bit like the first day of school because
all your players are back in the building, your coaching staff,
your support staff. It's really it's great to it's really
(01:01):
great to see everyone. I want to commend Kevin and
his staff, as well as our medical and performance groups
for the off season program that they put together. You know,
I thought it was it was chock full of competition
and and really filled with very rigorous work, and it's
(01:21):
been great to see that continue through the early parts
of camp and obviously we're you know, we're really excited
for day two. Before I open for questions, I want
to talk a little bit about, you know, Quinchon's situation.
I'd start by saying that, you know, anytime a not
just a player, but a member of your organization is
(01:44):
involved in a legal situation, and particularly one that you
know involves allegations of domestic violence, you lose a ton
of sleep over it, and you lose a ton of
sleepover it, not just because of the seriousness of the allegations,
but also because of you know, the amount of like
time and energy you spend you know, really vetting any
(02:08):
person who comes in to your organization, and then probably
for us in the in the past two years in particular,
the amount of you know, time and resources we've spent
on you know, the education, you know, the education part
of it. You know, with our you know, not just
with our players, but with our whole organization.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
When this happens with a player, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Obviously these incidents they become you know, very very highly public,
and our view is our primary responsibility, initial responsibility as
an organization is to gather as much uh information and
particularly quality information you know as possible. Rarely, even though
it's a you know, a you know, a highly public incident,
(02:49):
you know, rarely does all the information become public or
easily accessible, you know, which is why it's so important
for us to you know, you know, work through the
legal process where with investigators obviously communicating to your information.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
With the league.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But it's not until that time that we get enough
information and enough quality information that you know, we will
determine or decide the next steps of what to do
with that, you know, with you know, with the player
or the employee. So in terms of quinche on specifically,
(03:26):
we're still gathering information, you know. Sometimes you know, that
process occurs quickly. Sometimes the information comes a little bit
more slowly, but we're still in you know, really probably
the information gathering stages with him. That and given the
fact that he's still in an active, you know, legal situation,
(03:46):
there's not much that I can comment specifically on his
you know, specifically on his case at this point. But
as we get to the point where we have you know,
enough information to determine the next steps, you know, we
will certainly do so.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
The last thing I'll say by before I open it
up to you all is.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Look, you know, we don't want to be up here
on day one, you know, talking about this. You know,
our players don't, our coaches don't, our fans certainly don't.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Shoot.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I don't think you all do.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And so you know we're gonna obviously, uh, you know,
deal with you know, that situation on a day to
day basis as appropriate. But our focus you know, will
really be on you know, preparing the team for our
opener against Cincinnati in September.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
So with that, I'll open it up the questions.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
We have to wait until his U quinch On's leal
situation is dissolved before you sign him.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You know, Jeff, I'd say in quin Sewn specifically, it's
like it's it's to be determined, like right we we
we are still gathering information. So in terms of in
terms of those decisions you know, signing, you know, being
a camp and everything like that, it's, you know, honestly
probably too early to make any type of determination. So
(05:05):
as we gather information, we'll have a better a better
a better view on that.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
Can he is he not signing him or letting you go?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Is that on the table?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm sorry, does not signing him or letting you go,
you know, Dan, The way I would say is, like
I have learned in you know, many of these you know,
off field situations, not to go too far into the future.
We'll deal with the day to day like you end
up using a lot of you know, sort of mental
energy in terms of you know, hypotheticals and things of
(05:32):
that nature. And rather we'll we'll focus on gutting the
information and then and then making the right decisions.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
So were you satisfied with your Betty process?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Would you yeah, I'll I'll tell you this Tony, Like
for you know, all of our players, you know, we
spend a ton of time and energy, use a variety
of sources, you know, background, legal, to to make sure
we understand understand the people. Like any process, like you know,
you always look to refine it, you always look to
to improve it. And one of the things that we've
(06:01):
probably looked through in i'd say this space in general,
you know, is is really like you know, the education process.
Like you know, one thing that that we've learned is
with you know, domestic violence issues. There's no you know target,
population target, you know demographic target, you know, you know
(06:22):
history and you know one of the things that we
wanna make sure that we do with all members of
our organization is provide the resources, support and education so
that all of them can have safe, healthy domestic partnerships.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
Andrew and l looking back at the last two years, though,
this is the third player that has spaced something like
this and you had better than might call too. I
guess just what more do you feel like you guys
need to do when just working throne like this is
a pattern that guides.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Feel like it's acceptable in the Yeah, I I I
I definitely don't think guys view it as acceptable.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Uh uh.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Actually, you know, one of the things that you know
we had done over the summer, probably over the past
couple of summers is is talked to a number of
experts in you know, in this in this area, and
it and it you know, it probably goes to you know,
to to Tony's question in terms of, you know, the
education piece for us where there isn't always necessarily a
pattern in terms of you know, the demographic or the
(07:21):
pop you know, the population you know, and and the
the incidents can take a variety of a variety of forms,
not necessarily speaking to like our our specific players and
so that really kind of led to, you know, our
approach to to really kind of ramp up the education
to make sure that there was.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Enough awareness, strong awareness.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
And honestly, so guys realized like, it's not just this
could happen to this, could this could be someone else,
you know type problem, and how important.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It is to have the tools ready for healthy relationships
and good partnerships.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
And I'm sorry, go ahead, what is specific programming and
resources look like in that regard for this organization?
Speaker 6 (08:04):
What are some of the things that you guys have
been viewed?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, So in you know, twenty twenty four, uh, we
invited Sabrina g uh you know Greenley. She uh spoke
about her story directly to you know, our guys. We
actually invited uh Lisa Friel, who's the senior vice president
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Special Investigations for the NFL.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
She obviously sees all these incidents across the league, to
talk to and educate our guys. We actually, you know, R,
you know, R you replaced that uh education module cause
you have a couple of mandates for like from the league.
But we thought, you know, Lisa uh and her team
would actually be a more effective in that space. We
(08:45):
also added a module, uh, you know regarding sex stortion
in some of the situations in that case, to to
make sure that our guys understand, you know, what you know,
what these situations can look like and what are the
proper resources and tools so that they could make sure
that you know, we have the the behaviors that you know,
quite honestly are acceptable.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
In the community.
Speaker 10 (09:05):
And your last year, Whke Hall was back out here
on the field the day after his arrest of a
and so I'm wondering did you guys learn from that?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Was that too soon?
Speaker 10 (09:17):
And it's you know, if that was the case, you know,
so be it. But why is this situation so different
where it's taking so.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Long to figure outs going so so, Mary Kay, that
probably goes back to what I talked about earlier in
terms of the information that we had at the time.
All these situations are different in UNIS and you know,
the information that we had at the time with Mike
was was different than gwinn Sean. The other thing I'd
add is any decision for you know, follow up, you know,
(09:46):
whether it's you know, reintegration or discipline or you know,
removal from team activities, those decisions aren't made in a vacuum.
Those aren't you know, those aren't football decisions. Therewith uh
a variety of people that have different expertise, you know,
many of whom aren't in football operations. So each situation
(10:07):
is different, and I would be you know, I don't
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
You should necessarily uh map one to the other.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
So is the league involved in in this process in
sort of helping you guys to journey in what the
right course of action right now?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Is information? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You you always think communication with the league, so like
there always is, there is some natural dialogue.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But honestly, like the league, the league's role is probably
more in the you know.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
In any potential investigation or vetting, as opposed to as
opposed to that.
Speaker 11 (10:36):
So and.
Speaker 12 (10:38):
Let let me go here and I'll go with you, Daryl,
So Andrew is the framework of a contract there, it
gets a lot gain the second round picks is resolved,
It just starts a pause on it from both sides,
I'd say, like in j in general, obviously the second
round was unique this year.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Now it's pretty well slotted, you know, so uh, you.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Know, whether there's a formal framework in place, like maybe
the technical answer is no, But in terms of where
that slot should should land.
Speaker 13 (11:07):
That's yes, that's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Go ahead, Dryl of.
Speaker 14 (11:11):
Confident already iss you you should put through like you're
vetting process and you're you know, going across the country
and doing research on just the wide range of guys.
And you know, it's not confident orty that you get
the information that you're receiving, especially from the red flag
character abortion.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
You're getting the full picture. You're getting an acutar picture.
Speaker 14 (11:30):
And I understand that you're talking about apployment and there's
some sensitivities in there as well, but like, do do
you feel like that people are being open and honest
with you when it comes to uh, some of these
prospects and in the pre draft information you're downing.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, I think a big part of the pre draft
process is knowing you know, who the reliable sources are.
But Darryl, you know, when you know we talk about vetting,
it's not about just you know, flying in talking to
a position coach or talking to a support spat. Pretty
extensive legal checks, pretty extensive uh you know, background checks,
(12:06):
whether that's with.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know, compliance office on campus.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We actually employ a third party, uh company that does
all of our security in background, so everything from if
a guy has a speeding ticket to you know, something
more serious, that's something that's accessible to us.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That being said, it's funny we had you know, we
had Monty McNair in for like we call it a
we used to call it Scout school. It's a football
operation summit, former general manager of of of the Sacramento Kings,
and we were talking about like, hey, like, you know,
background process.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
How did you guys go about it with you know,
with the Kings. And he was saying, you know, one of.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
The things they study is like, just like anything else,
it can be noisy, like to your to your point
where it's like, okay, how many guys that we identified
as let's say, you know, tough or smarter whatever ended
up ended up actually being that and the reality that
their sense like you know, things change. But like to
get back to the the the broader point, Daryl, you know,
(13:05):
it is important to you know, we have a large
web sources. It isn't important to know who's who's who's reliable.
Speaker 9 (13:11):
But to leave it it just.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Maybe hearsay is the wrong term, but to leave it
it just like you know, an interview on a campus
with like a coach or an academic advisor. You know
that's that's not nearly enough. And and and we use
way more resources than let me do Scott first and
then a Tony from a.
Speaker 15 (13:31):
Football perspective, Andrew, I mean, you spent you know, the
thirty six picked on the draft, and we don't know,
you don't know when he's gonna if he's gonna be,
when he's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
So how big a blow is in especially to an offense.
Speaker 15 (13:41):
Did once we commit to the runking.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'd say this, we'll deal with that day to day,
you know, and we'll see where we where we shake
out in that position room.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I think we're excited for a number of.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Individuals who are in that room, and we kind of
really want to see how how how things play out,
certainly in the short term, before.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You know, making any u you know, quick judgments or assessments.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Speaking of speeding tickets, what was your opinion of the
shoulders to excessive scheme voilations?
Speaker 11 (14:10):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Not smart, just not just not smart. And it's something
that we've addressed, uh with him. You know, he understands
the implications he understands the.
Speaker 14 (14:22):
The the.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
The consequences. And I think the thing is, like, it's
not just about yourself, right, It's not just about you know,
having enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's not just about you know, driving a car really fast,
but it's about the fact that you can endanger other people.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It's about the.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Fact that if a deer or someone you know cuts
out in front of you, like your reaction time, it's
just dangerous and it's not something that we want our
guys to be doing.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's not something that they should be doing.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
And the number one reason is because we don't want
some type of catastrophic apps like, right, we saw that
you know two years ago and what was it Dallas
or Houston with a you know, with a player, and
in that incident, everybody was lucky to walk away, and
we don't want that occurring in you know, with with anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
In our organization.
Speaker 16 (15:19):
On football quarterbacks, do you see a pathway to have
four an opening day roster? I do is that you know,
in light of the theset that a quarterback is or
having sixty nine with the practice squad and.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You can kind of hide. I'd say this is like.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
We've largely looked at the last five spots for rosters
more developmental spots, and that can come from any any position.
I also think with the roster flexibility nowadays, especially with
like the elevations that you're able to have on the
practice squad, there's just more flexibility in terms of how
to build your forty eight game eight forty eight man
game day roster, where it's maybe not as quite as
(15:58):
restrictive in the past. Now that being said, when roster
rules were more uh, let's say draconian. Uh, there have
been teams that have carried four. So if there are
four that are fifty three man worthy and we think
it makes the most sense for us to keep them, Google.
Speaker 17 (16:13):
Andrew, As you've progressed throughout your GM career here, do
you think your philosophy philosophy on players with character concerns
has shifted it all?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Have you become less averse over the years?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I mean, I wouldn't say that, Nate, that uh have
become you said less averse? Mm, I'd say I honestly
like that typically has not been a well where we
wanna dip into it aggressively. Now, what what issues like
I think character cannot times be a very broad term,
like what issues that we're we.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Think that we can support.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'd say that's maybe more what weakness as we say
we can support, like whether a guy has.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You a mental concern or some you know, some issue
with you know, with with you know, life skills, things
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You know, those are things that we can support, but
you know, players with maybe more serious issues, like we
typically haven't had.
Speaker 9 (17:10):
An appetite for those guys.
Speaker 18 (17:11):
Andrew, when it comes to the decision on the starter,
I wanted to ask, like will that solely be.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Uh Kevin decision?
Speaker 18 (17:17):
And I and I wanna frame it in a context
of you already acknowledge that you acquired an extra first
round pick MM draft that's supposed to be strong quarterback
give too nicky quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Most people would just say able moves.
Speaker 18 (17:28):
You to like see what you have in those guys
and as opposed to you know, putting Joe or Kenny
out there.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
So like, how how will you as a as.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
A general manager kind of you know, that's good, It's no,
it's it's it's a good question, right like cause look,
let's call what it is they're like at times is
maybe a little bit of the tension in terms of
your future versus future versus present.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But like, that's really not the way that we look
at it, Daniel.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
We look at it is like, hey, let's let's have
all these guys out there, Let's like see how they perform,
Let's see what their strengths and weaknesses are, and you know,
building offensive support around the around the around the starter
when when Kevin's ready to name it, I would say,
more generally to your question, you know, Kevin and I
might be the ones who talk more about the quarterback
(18:11):
position for you all, you know, throughout the next couple
of weeks, and it's something that you know we'll talk
about consistently. I think you guys know us well enough
that you know we work really well together in that regard.
But at the end of the day, like I trust him,
you know, I mean like I trust his I trust
his discretch.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I trust our coaching staff in terms of who they
want to who they want to play.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
And I think we'll get a lot more information over
the upcoming weeks and we're gonna.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Take a couple more king and you along the lines
or go back and running back. I think you said
you're excited.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
About the guys that are here in that world.
Speaker 19 (18:42):
But is there any thought to especially just still here
when you want a lot of bodies, You can't potentially
adding everybody to the.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Boss if there's a player that makes sense, you know,
of course, like and that would be across any you know,
any position in terms of let's say the more like
tactical like functioning through camp or getting through the next
several days.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think we're in a good spot and we'll hopefully
be in a even better spot.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Is like, you know, we work through you know, a
couple you know, Mike minor tweets and injuries, things like that.
Speaker 14 (19:13):
Andrew, you won three games last year, So what id
are realistic expectations for this team?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
You know, it was not a real good product to watch.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah, And I you know, Terry, I think I probably
tell you every year when we do the you know,
the the the uh interview before the before week one, every.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Year is unique. Every years every year is different. It's
not you know. I was I was reading something.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
You know, with my with my former team, the Eagles,
where they they were they were bristling at the notion
of being called defending champions and saying like, hey, we're
not defending anything that was twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We're in twenty twenty five, and that's right. Like, that's
the case. We see it every year the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I think right now, Terry, like, our mentality is, let's
learn this team during training camp, Let's get good, meaningful
competitive reps, let's see how young players can progress, let's
determine roles, and then we'll go from there. You know,
the expectations talk things like that. You know, that'll be
a conversation for another day. I'm sure I'll have just
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as unsatisfying of an answer, But you know, we're really
looking forward to to really doing the work and dealing
with it on data.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, you've put you put the roster together, and
you looked at what was last year we brought on
these guys for this year. When you look at this,
why would you think it's going to be better? Yeah,
I think Terry, that you know we are.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
We are very optimistic about a number of the players
that we have on the roster. Quite honestly, I really
like where our offensive scheme, in our offensive coaching staff is.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
And I think like the benefit of you know, having
a lot of young.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Players that that are likely we'll see how the roles
shake out, but you'll get more You'll get more playing time.
Is you know there are wide range really quite honestly
in both directions of of outcomes for that specific spot.
So you know, I think this is a year where
you know, we have the opportunities to see a lot
of growth, you know, with with some of the players
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who are gonna be given and earn uh new opportunities.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
But like I said, we're gonna be focused.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
On the work.
Speaker 20 (21:26):
When would you used to have personally attend the Texas
up state game?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I'm sorry, would you attend to h Texas or own
state game? I can't tell you all my secrets, I
think Mary.
Speaker 10 (21:35):
Kay how yeah, younger, I wanted to ask you about
you were two? Uh can you pee guys in Whitehall
and DeShawn? Can you give us an updata when.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You think those guys might be ready to go?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
So I tried to do this well last year and
I was so wrong in terms of what I told
you guys that I'm sorry. This year, I'm going to
the day to day route like I I just like
it and and like I I yes, we have an
an idea in terms.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Of what we think they may hit the field.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I have just learned by just being so wrong in
that with the tackles last year that I'm just gonna
I'm I'm gonna go the GM speak day to day
and we'll see.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
How they got.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
So you put j Ok on the season ending correct,
So does this mean that you have hoped that DeShawn
will be.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
Contribute to you just.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Sometime on the field, Jeff, I'd say, like we're dealing
with the Shawan and Mike on a day to day basis.
Jok's and manately just like a much. It's just it's
it's just a unique situation, you know, with with his injury.
So that's that's a lot different than the other PEP guys.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Daniel, I was just gonna ask about Shawan as well.
Speaker 18 (22:45):
I mean I was gonna say, like, you know, you
in an initial statement, you gotta see he's gonna miss
most of the season. So if that hasn't changed, like,
how likely is it FeAs how feasible is it that
he really can't play the season?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
We'll we'll see.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Day to day.
Speaker 21 (22:59):
Last one, first, Andrew, you said there's a possibility of
keeping off four two years Yeah, two years ago, you
were in a position where you traded it away a
veteran and then what transpired transpired to kind of put
you in a mine where you were forced to play
a young guy.
Speaker 22 (23:14):
Do you, uh, if you're in kind of the same spot,
how much does that you know what you went through
in twenty three kind of.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
In form twenty five. Yeah, it's a good question, Chris.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I think the main difference in that year is we
were at three. So I think I've said multiple times
on the record that as long as we have three
quarterbacks that we think are fifty three man worthy, we'd
like to keep.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
We'd like to keep three. That was a situation where.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
We felt like the opportunity again kind of wrestling with
a little bit the short term versus the long term
was too good to you know, it was too good
to pass up, was too good to pass off in
twenty twenty three, and you were able to manage it,
and obviously, you know, make the playoffs and everything. But
you know, that's maybe a little a little bit different
than where we sit today. If like we're in a
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situation and you know, we receive some trade offer for
one of the guys, and you know, we're sitting with
four guys on the active roster, that might be a
different set of conversations and considerations than if we were
carrying the having three planned until literally like the last
week of the preseason.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Second quarterback Kenny Pickett says, consistency is the key to
winning the starting QB job, And what is your mindset as.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
This open competition gets underway here in training camp? I
remember in that off season you've really.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Talked about that you came from.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
You're a start, and it's what you plan to do.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
How do you feel about that right now?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (24:37):
I feel great about it. And right now it's just
taking it a day at a time, you know, let
everything else play out. But you know, going back through
the installs, having a chance to train the system over
summer and work the full work and everything I think
helped me a lot. You know, I felt a lot
more comfortable yesterday just having a chance to rep a
out of those things over the last five weeks. So
really just taking a day at a time.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
And yeah, you're.
Speaker 18 (24:58):
Curious from your perspective, I mean we've talked about how
like it's so unusual to have like a four man
quarterback competition, and maybe you're not getting as many as
reps as you would in like a normal training camp practice.
But like what is before practice, what does after practice
look like?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What does like the data data look like?
Speaker 18 (25:13):
To make sure that even though you might not be throwing,
you know, twenty five times in a practice, you know,
you're you're you're s locked in, you're getting as many
reps in the experience experience as you need.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
Yeah, I think, uh, you gotta find ways to steal reps,
whether that's you know, on the field, watching you know,
when you're not going, watching the other guys in there
after practice, staying and throwing the spots that you may
not have gotten to the plays that you you weren't
able to run, you know, put receivers in spots and
just throw those routes, work the full work and work
the timing that way. Film room watched everybody's reps in film.
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So there's multiple ways that you can do it.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
You know.
Speaker 9 (25:46):
I think it's big to get the mental and the
physical reps as well. You know, staying after and doing
the extra stuff to uh to get those reps is huge.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Describe how this is gonna play out over the.
Speaker 15 (25:57):
Next few weeks as far as how many reps you're
gonna get where you're gonna go with when he even
might make a decisions.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He talked about that.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
No, I mean we don't. It's really like I said,
a day at a time, you don't know like what
you're gonna get that day. You're just kind of showing
up and prepared to I mean, I I think every
guy here is prepared to go play the entire practice.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
You know that.
Speaker 9 (26:13):
That's how kind of how I look at it. You
don't know what you're gonna get, so uh, whatever whatever
schedule for that day, I want to make sure that
I know everything inside and out, so whatever reps I
do get, I can take advantage of it.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
Kenny, and you comptable in this offense? Are Is it
a lot different.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Than what you've been in the past.
Speaker 9 (26:29):
Yeah, I am comfortable. It's it's a little bit more
understanding than I've had, you know, to do in the past.
Kind of bouncing back to what I said earlier, having
the five weeks in the summer to really rep more
of it. You know, going into the spring, I had
an idea of what we were gonna do, but then
get into experienced spring and get those reps and then
go home and work on you know, those things and
really hone them, hone in on them, you know, I
think helped me a lot and I felt a lot
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more comfortable.
Speaker 22 (26:50):
What specifically did you did you do like during your
time Marvel to kind of really honed in on you know,
whether it was you know, just you know watching the
home were you know, was there specific things that get
felt like really were most beneficial for you?
Speaker 23 (27:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:04):
I think, Uh, I would go home and you know,
throwing two or three times a week. I would treat
those days that I would throw like an install day,
so you know, install one. I would go home, watch
the tape, study it, and I would write down all
the routes and the uh footwork that I wanted to do,
and that day was like install one day. And I
did that throughout the summer and all my thrown sessions
to kind of like you know, almost cheat a little
extra practice, you know, to to to look at the
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scripts from the spring, look at all the installs, put
plays together, say the play, run the play, throw the route,
you know, just trying to cheat the reps cause y like,
like we've been saying, you may not get as many
as you like. You just gotta take advantage of what.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
You get getting.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Yesterday you started things off on your love on the
eleven two drills and then that's obviously gonna change, which
as Kevin as he said, But for you getting those
extra reps, Wal you kind of sits to the side.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Has have you seen that help you create chemistry?
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Get those maybe extra reps that you were talking about
as you try to get acclimated and get yourself ready.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah, those are huge.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
Whatever you can get with the guys in live speed,
especially going against the defense, you know, full eleven on eleven,
you know, calling the play in the huddle, breaking the huddle,
lining up, knowing where guys are gonna be, the timing
of the play, how each guy runs his route, it all,
it all plays into playing quarterback at a high level.
So whenever you can get those reps and and that
experience a huge.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Did you get together with Joe Flacco or any of
the Browns receivers.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
No, I had some family things going on over summer
and we didn't get a chance to do it. But
you know, luckily we have a six week camp to
make up for it.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Anny, when you've got traded to Clete one, what was
your first reaction course then.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
After that.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Quarterback, Yeah, I was just excited. It's an opportunity to compete.
I mean, that's all you can ask for. So, you know,
having an opportunity to to compete against these guys, and
it's a great room. We're having a lot of fun
already together. But really it was the opportunity that I
was most excited about.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Say you go back even just two years, how much
good for a NARDU.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Now as a personal quarterback?
Speaker 9 (28:50):
A lot? I mean, it's you. You experienced so much
of life. I think being an NFL quarterback, you you experienced.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
The highs, the lows.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
You know, I have, I have an believable support system
that I can lean on. But you just go through
so many trials, and you know, adversity you learn a
lot about yourself, a lot about the people around you.
So I'm grateful for every experience that I've had. I
feel like it may be you know a better person,
a better player.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Today when you.
Speaker 14 (29:14):
Talk about about yourself as a player, is you've gone
through this, going from Pittsburgh anti Philadelphia and now.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You're here in Cleveland.
Speaker 15 (29:20):
Just what do you learned about yourself.
Speaker 9 (29:22):
As a player that can make you a better Yeah.
I think the ability just to buy into whatever system
you're in. I've been in different systems, you know what.
I feel like I have the ability to play in
a lot of systems with what I can do inside
the pocket and outside the pocket. So buying into the scheme,
buying into what the coaches are telling me to do,
and then just you know, leaving it all out there,
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working hard every day. So it's not gonna be done
in one day. It's not gonna be done in two weeks.
It's You've got to show up and be your best
every single day. So that that's really what I'm focused
on doing.
Speaker 15 (29:51):
When you're talking about the opportunity to have the chance
to start, so how important is it to you at
this stage and your creative capit an opportunity It is
a few more real in training camp than it did
maybe and made you.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Yeah, it's definitely more real now. Obviously the season's you know,
almost here, but you know, like the in the spring,
you're really you know, it's kind of trial and everything.
You're feeling out the offense. It's a new system for
everybody here. So we were kind of working through the
kinks of it, I'd say having the five weeks to
train and work at what I know that we were
gonna do to come back now and now it's time
to sharpen everything up.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
And get ready to go.
Speaker 9 (30:27):
So I think you know that the the springtime was
a great time to work things through and now it's
time to govern.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
Could you splain some offen me just ifually have a
little confused.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
You talked about those five weeks when you're you know,
was that between Mini camp and now?
Speaker 9 (30:42):
Yes? Yeah, right after Mini camp. You know, I have
my quarterback coach in New Jersey. Those five weeks, you know,
being able to go through the playbook and installs all
over again and treat those days like practice, making like
a mini script up to go out there and practice,
I think it helped me a lot. And then who
all receivers around the area.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Well, feels like be able to really next work out
there a lot of plays you to involve each other with.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
Him and what what has he gotten out of you?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (31:10):
No, he he's got my full trust already, you know, Jerry,
you watch him on tape. It's one thing, but to
go out there and play with him is another. His route,
running his technique, his ability to find space and zone.
You know, he's a he's a full package receiver and
he makes you know, our job his quarterbacks a lot easier.
So uh, he's also a great guy to work with.
He comes with a great attitude. He you know, he
wants to win. He wants to work hard. So it's
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it's really easy to work with the guy like Jerry.
What do you have to do?
Speaker 18 (31:42):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
And what do you have to show to win this
starting job?
Speaker 9 (31:45):
Consistency? I think that's what you know. Coaches, you know,
are looking for the guy that's consistent, that's the same
guy every day that they can count on. They can
call any play. They know that we'll get him out
of a bad play. If the shots called and it's
not there, we'll check it down. So just you know,
good quarterback play that can help this team win games,
because that's what it's all about. You know, we're all
here to win and that's all. That's all I'm concerned about.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
Is it different coming.
Speaker 24 (32:08):
Into a season, uh, as your third team rather than
as a first round pick? So again, is it different
for you coming to a new team, your third team
than it was being their first round pick?
Speaker 4 (32:24):
In this way.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
I wouldn't say so. I mean just you have to
attack the day and want to be the best player
that you want to be. So I think as long
as you keep that mindset, whatever the outside perception is
of of your situation, you know, as a player, that
doesn't really you know, hinder my you know, ability to
go out there and play at the level that I
know that I could play out What is.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It like about the system that.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Really helps you the way you play quarterback, the way
it's set up.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Yeah, I think it's very versatile. I think we do
a lot of different things, whether it's under center in
the gun, the play action game, the drop back game,
some movement things where I can get out on the edge.
There's a lot of things that I think you know
fit how I like to play quarterbacks. So yeah, I
have been. Yeah, I have been, not at the level
or the amount that we are here now though.
Speaker 17 (33:07):
Kenny, obviously you have Joe Flacco you talked to about this,
But I was wondering, have you been able to talk
to any quarterbacks outside of the building who played in
the system before and picked their.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Brain, not not specifically in this system. There there's a
couple that are like this system, but really, you know,
Joe the best guy to ask, you know, the guy,
he's been around, he's played in the system before. So
having him in the room and on the field, you know,
to bounce questions and and talk some talk through some
things has been beneficial to all the guys in there.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
How is your relationship with him development.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
It's been It's been awesome. Like it feels like you're
almost like talking to like an older brother or something.
Wh here and there, like he he's a great guy.
Where we're from, you know, about an hour from each other,
so you know, from the same area.
Speaker 20 (33:50):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (33:50):
He trained at Test Football for the combine. That's where
I trained as well, So there's some there's some crossover
in our past. You know, he went to PIT. I
know a lot of casts. I know, I'm a pit
and everyone you know raped about him, and you know
everything's held true, you know to this day. He's He's
a great guy, great guy to have in the room.
Speaker 25 (34:04):
Can you in terms of your mobility, do you feel
like that's when you will have an opportunity to really
step it up in this competition, when you have a
chance maybe in two minut drills or practices against the
even the games where you can make some off schedule plays.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
And show what you can do in that starpody.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Yeah, I I think it's another element that that I
can add, you know, uh from the competition standpoint, you know,
I can't control you know what other guys do. Just
focus on what I can do, and I know that's
something that I can bring, you know, to the table,
to to this offense, and we do a lot of it,
which I like Kenny Lill.
Speaker 15 (34:36):
This team is put an emphasis a creating pressure of
the midal You know, we just talked to Mason Brand.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
What does that do to you?
Speaker 15 (34:41):
With what kind of problems that call?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, you just have to operate fast.
Speaker 9 (34:44):
You have to know where your answers are. You know,
if if if you're in a play where they're bringing
pressure nowhere to get the ball out. You know, it
helps sharpen your skills as a as a quarterback when
you're playing against a caliber defense like we are every
single day. You talk about just the guys up front,
you know, the front seven, but that's the secondary comp
you know, there's a lot of really good players there.
So I think it's it's huge for you know, as
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quarterbacks backs, receivers tight ends to go against this level
of competition every day. It'll only make us better. And yeah,
I'm excited to you know, it's only been day one.
We're on day two now, but it's been good so far.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
It is interior pressure harder to deal with them.
Speaker 9 (35:16):
Pressure off the end, Yeah, I mean listen, if they're
getting pushed back up the middle, there's nowhere to step up,
you know, if it's if it's on the edge, you
can step up in a pocket and make a throw.
With the interior pressure, it adds an element of you know,
trying to find an escape lane if there is one.
And uh, you know, we got some guys that are
gonna cause a lot of teams problems.
Speaker 10 (35:32):
So with the trad NFL h towards more pass rushing,
defensive cackles and you know, having everyone across the board
that can get to the.
Speaker 18 (35:40):
Quarterback, is that where your mobility.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Will probably come in handy just in terms of being.
Speaker 26 (35:45):
Able to get out of there.
Speaker 9 (35:46):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that that can help. But you
really just want to you know, know where your answers are,
Like you know I said earlier, you want to get
the ball out of your hand. You want to help
the offensive line. You know, you don't want to sit
back there holding the football too long. But I also
know that I have ability to extend and make plays
down fields. So there's a fine line between both. You
go out there, you play fast, You just kind of
read and react and go from there.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Next quarterback Joe Flacco talks about how he has involved
his family and his off season training.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
So I think it camp we've talked about, You've taken
furious off and then you start yesterday and you took
that period off.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Do you expect that to change at closer.
Speaker 13 (36:18):
You get to Caroline up, you know, it's tough to
have expectations, you know. I think there's been some communication
between probably all the quarterbacks and Kevin. So yeah, I
guess I know a little bit what to expect, at
least for the next week, But you can't ask me.
It's it's hard for me to tell what it's gonna
look like, you know, two three weeks from.
Speaker 15 (36:40):
Now, when I know Kevin said he's looking to make
a decision sooner rather than later. But is there a
date in your your mind where if you're the guy,
you want.
Speaker 13 (36:49):
To know that you're the guy? I think there's like
ideal situations obviously, and then there's just like the reality
of the situation. And you know, it's one of those
things that I really don't have any control over. So
I'm really not worried about when anything happens. Obviously, there's
advantages to knowing, you know, earlier than later, but I
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I I it's just part of the game, Joan.
Speaker 18 (37:12):
I ask this, and it feels a little more relevant
to you because we've seen you, you know, maybe not
take as many snaps during practice, but like, what does
the day to day look like for practice after practice
where if you're not getting as many reps, you're still
you know, staying locked in and stand prepared.
Speaker 13 (37:24):
And game well, it's the same. I mean, like you're
still out here grinding and going through a lot of
individual I mean yesterday, come on, I mean we we
ran like twenty plays total. Anyway, you know, I I
It's not like we had a hit, we had a
heavy load. So yeah, it it's just staying locked in
a and focused during the meeting time, which is a
lot of what we're doing right now. Anyway. The thing
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for me is if like if you're not getting a
ton of reps out there and you're only getting a
certain amount of throws through individual It's just like maybe
keeping an equipment guy out and just playing some long
tolls or something like that, just to make sure your
arm's still getting the load that it's kind of gotten
over the last three four weeks as you're kind of
getting ready to come back.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So what you're saying some of.
Speaker 10 (38:01):
The problems uh howl, you asking how uh how determined
are you to win this starting job and what do
you have to do?
Speaker 13 (38:10):
It's tough to look at it that way. I mean,
I'm d I'm as determined as ever to just be
the best quarterback that I can be. And I I
got it.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You know.
Speaker 13 (38:18):
It's so easy to and and I do it. I'm
guilty of it. It's so easy to like look ahead
and like picture yourself as the starter and hearing that
news and things like that. But I really, I I
like second day of camp. Uh you know, I I
think the best thing for me is to just stay
in the moment and come out here and have fun
and like compete and just do what I love to do.
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I think that's gonna be the best way for me
to show what I can do and and and all
that stuff. So you know, I think there's a lot
of self motivation in order to be good at this
in this league, and that's always there. So I'm just
gonna continue to approach it like I always do.
Speaker 20 (38:54):
So from what you know of this system this year,
this play action more puble been in twenty twenty three
in west Brookline or the A, I would think it's
it's it's very similar.
Speaker 13 (39:06):
Like big it's a big part of what we want
this offense to look like. And I you know, I
wasn't here in training camp and the first half of
the season in twenty three. I know it was a
lot of what we did and and it's kind of
a lot of what this offense typically is just from talking,
you know, the way we're talking about it in meetings
and stuff like that. Like it it's it's a big
part and it's a it's important to us to be
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good at it.
Speaker 22 (39:27):
So Joe, you obviously you've you've done this a long
time in your process. How does it change between what
uh the end of mini camp to now, w how
did you kind of approach it this?
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Does it you approach it me differently now compared to.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
To get ready for this point.
Speaker 13 (39:44):
I think you'll learn probably little things. Every year it's
based it's generally been the same. It is the most
important time, you know, like you're you're at home, and
then you and you and you get three months from
January to April or whatever it is February April, and
those are important to kind of get your body back
going and get back in shape. And then you kind
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of show up here and you put the work in
with your guys. But it's still a decent time away
from training camp. So the the trap that I think
you can fall in is just not having something in
place when you're young, going back home for five weeks
and being left to your own devices. If you don't
have that schedule, at least for me, like if you
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don't have like a kind of a set schedule, then
things start to lack and you start to like you
just slowly, Oh, I'm gonna work out two today, I'm
gonna work out of four, I'm gonna work out at six. Oh. Shoot,
the day got by. You know, it's just immaturity. So like,
just as my career is going on, just finding people
to hold you accountable and and make sure that you
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know it's not just you. Like believe me, being holding
yourself accountable is a huge part of it, and you
learn how to do that, but it's it's for even
the guys that are at the very top, Like it's
very helpful to have other people that can kind of
keep you to that and make sure you're ready. But
it's just giving your arm that load. Like I don't
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necessarily throw a lot, and before we come back here
for the off season, but leading up to this love
I listen. I love to throw, so it's a lot
of fun. And the one thing that's changed this year
is I'm out there with my family and I'm trying
to teach my boys three step, five step drops and
I'm freaking out on them because they're not getting it
right away and stuff like that. But I'm throwing a
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lot in those five weeks.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
And that's what you talked about, staying in the moment.
How much easier to do that in your eighteen season.
Speaker 13 (41:36):
And as a rookie, it's always a battle, man, It's
always a battle. It's always one of those things I
think you learn a little bit about. We were having
this conversation yesterday in the locker room with a few guys,
like just because guys are looking for advice and I'm
not a great giver of advice. But staying in the
moment is very important. And you do realize that as
you as you mature, and like you realize the moments
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man like that, why was I in the zone there?
And I still don't know if I have the answer,
like the perfect answer as to how to stay in
the moment. I know staying in the moment is super important,
but like the how to actually do that is is
the grind of it all. And I think the biggest
thing to do is just keep your head down to
you know, go in that meeting and attack that meeting,
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just like remind yourself of being present and really divvying
it up and doing one thing at a time.
Speaker 7 (42:26):
Historically, your sack total relative.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Shimmer was in twenty three five years.
Speaker 13 (42:32):
You play, and you know Lamar Jackson eats.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
So what's your philosophy on affording sacks?
Speaker 6 (42:38):
How have you done it?
Speaker 13 (42:40):
Listen, I I think you can look at every single
sack and it's very team oriented and and it's and
the and at the same time, the quarterback is very responsible,
you know, Like I think you could make both arguments,
you know, depending on what you're trying to say. But
the biggest thing for me is being on top and
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playing in the rhythm of the offense. And then I
think even in twenty three you saw it a little bit.
It wasn't like I'm just standing back there completely. Like
I think, when you are in good rhythm and you
do have the benefit of having five guys up front
that are really good at their job, that's when your
feet can kind of tell you, okay, it's time to
get out, you know, and it's time to do those
other things. It starts with me with playing in rhythm,
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being on time with my feet and then therefore being
on time to throat to get the ball out of
my hands. And then the added benefit is when you
are really good upfront, even a guy like me who
is not like my number one priority, will be given
chances to kind of get out and make some plays
with those in those kind.
Speaker 10 (43:39):
Of conditions that you have five children that are expecting you,
when this starting job will be the starting part.
Speaker 13 (43:47):
Yeah, I mean I went home and I went home
in the beginning of junior, like are you the starter yet?
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Like what you know?
Speaker 13 (43:53):
So, yeah, it's not added pressure. It's honestly a lot
of it makes it a lot of fun. It's it's
almost like takes pressure off because your your you you
that almost helps put me in the moment and see
it for what it is. You know, you wish you
could see it as a from a twelve eleven, twelve
thirteen year old's eyes. So when you when you hang
around them and you see the questions they ask and
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and the way they phrase things, it honestly kind of helps.
It helps put things in the moment and kind of
really really remind you of what's important and why this
game is is so important to you, you know, so
it's it's just a good reminder.
Speaker 14 (44:31):
So at the end of last year, was there any
sort of fear that I'm gonna end up on my
couch again, always.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Gonna call or anything like that.
Speaker 13 (44:38):
There really wasn't. Like I I feel like the last
two years, I really kind of went in pretty optimistic
into the off season. But then you know, the time
comes up where you get where you start signing guys
and you don't necessarily hear from people, So of course
that goes into your that kind of enters into your mind.
But I don't really think I have like a negative
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outlook on it, like there's only so many things. That
goes back to that there's only only so many things
you can control, and like you can go out there
and play the best you can in hopes of giving
people that like that vision of what you can do
for them. But if nobody bites, as long as I
can look at myself and and like have an idea
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that I did the right things that I and I'm
happy with what I did. You you you learn that
that's what matters, and you can't worry about the decisions
of other people.
Speaker 24 (45:32):
When you heard from Cleveland, then like kind of your
emotions and all that because you were out there for
a while before.
Speaker 13 (45:39):
Yeah, sure, yeah, and and and we had talked and
not talked, and you don't you don't know. I'm very
excited to be back here.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (45:47):
So to get the call from these guys and and
learn that they actually did want to bring me back
was very exciting and felt very good about it. Obviously,
do you everybody.
Speaker 7 (45:57):
Throws in yourseltions can get it. Jamis Whinston last year
would pray to God to make it stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
They roll off your back. What's your philosophy on picks.
Speaker 13 (46:10):
You don't want to throw them. You want to be
aggressive and you want to be smart. You know, I
have thrown some picks recently, I feel like, but I
do still pride myself on not and making good decisions
and having said that, you know that they're gonna happen
at some point. You want to be aggressive, but that's
not necessarily an excuse, Like being aggressive is not an excuse.
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The goals of quarterback is to make good decisions, be accurate,
and take care of the football for your team. So
ultimately that's what you want to do, and you have
to find that balance of being able to be yourself,
be really aggressive and not turn that damn ball over.
It's very important.
Speaker 9 (46:49):
It's just one of those things.
Speaker 13 (46:53):
They affect me. Yeah, they maybe I don't show it.
I hope I do a good job of not showing it.
But man like, yeah, there's times where you turn the
ball over. And there's definitely times in your life as
a forty year old where you wish you were like
six years old and like it was acceptable to just
cry about it. You know, you can't hide on an
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NFL field, And there's times where you definitely want to,
but you got to deal with it. You got to
deal with it.
Speaker 6 (47:21):
Man, you went through in twenty three and having to
wait for these guys to call you, Like, does that
give you a different tour? Did it give you like
a different outlet or appreciation for things like this, like
going through a position.
Speaker 13 (47:32):
Battle now and every Yeah, it definitely did. And like
especially right in the moment, like when it was fresh
like that, it does give you that outlook. Now that
only goes so long, but I think I can look
back on, like that was an experience that I got
to go through myself. So I so it's that's not fresh,
it's not in my mind necessarily, But when you're going
through when different thoughts are rattling around in your brain
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and you don't really want them to be there, that
is one of those experiences that I think that I
can draw on in my life and and kind of
remind my self of what I was feeling at that
time and why and I and and and that's part
of just you know, learning through experience.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
Do you mention that the offensive a strong offensive line
and strong front.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
We know that they're going through some changes to one
Jones playing we tackle.
Speaker 10 (48:13):
Coach up there.
Speaker 6 (48:14):
So for you as a quarterback, how important is.
Speaker 8 (48:16):
The communication and the work that you do on these
fields and getting them ready for that week.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Wanted to be a strong front that you need.
Speaker 13 (48:23):
Yeah, it's great to be out there with those guys
and and doing all that together. And at the same
time you have just I have the utmost confidence in
their coach and those guys cause I've I've been with
them and I I can see him working that they
are on top of their stuff. That's the last position
group that you're gonna have to worry about on this field.
So even if you're not directly working with them, you
know they're getting in their work and and dotting all
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their eyes, crossing all their teas to make sure that
you know they're on it.
Speaker 6 (48:48):
You're Joe. Can you Pickett?
Speaker 10 (48:49):
When he came in here and when he first UH
was acquired, he made it abundantly clear that he's coming
in here.
Speaker 6 (48:55):
UH to start.
Speaker 23 (48:56):
He does wanna sit and I know you feel samee.
Speaker 10 (48:59):
So just between YouTube guys, how you know what is
that like to be out there every day?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
You know that you know that you have to beat
each other out and.
Speaker 13 (49:09):
And what mindset do you have in Yeah, I I listen.
I think we're all aware of that, and you know
it's not necessarily talk about between the two of us,
but you obviously know what you have a little bit
of insight as to what they may be thinking and
and those things. But it goes back to like, that's
just focusing on like when you're focusing on Kenny or
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Kenny's focusing on me, and then we're super focused on that.
In general, it's kind of the wrong mindset to be
in to to be at your best. So you try
to It's natural for those things to come into your head,
but you try to do your best to to get
'em out and just go out there and and be
with the guys and be in the moment.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Was last season? What's keeping confidence they?
Speaker 13 (49:50):
You know, coming back you can kind of recapture what
happened in two thousand and twenty three. I I'm not
trying to recapture. You know, every year's a new, every
season's new, and this league and listen, I've been in
the locker room with these guys. I know what they're
all about. And it's obviously not the same exact locker room,
but there's a lot of really good guys in there
that know how to win football games. So that's what
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gives you the confidence that you can come back here
and win games. I don't think it's about trying to
recreate anything. It's just a it's a new season. Everybody
has a fresh mindset, and a lot of the guys
in there have a really good one to begin with.
They know how to win football games, and uh, that
makes you feel good about lining up with them.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
So there's got time for one more. We're ready about
just the intensity of training kIPS here.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
I know you have the word here for that twenty three,
but you've.
Speaker 6 (50:32):
Also been you know, a handful of other places where
you see out camping run.
Speaker 19 (50:37):
I know you talked about your two days back in
the day earlier in the spring, but even digging back
to the spring.
Speaker 6 (50:41):
View kind of sense that there's different thing.
Speaker 13 (50:43):
Yeah, listen, I think we're talking You can talk a
lot about how practices are actually structured, but I think
what we're talking about is just the mindset you know
of of a winner and a winning football team and
what that takes. And it doesn't matter if you're out
here for an hour or three hours. There's a way
that a winning team takes a field and approaches their craft,
and I think there's definitely a focus and you can
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definitely tell that that we're locked in too, you know,
make sure that that happens.
Speaker 17 (51:12):
Joey touched on earlier, but get into involving your kids
and getting ready for training camp. Like where did you
guys typically go what you know, throwing session.
Speaker 13 (51:22):
With Yeah, and it looked a lot like you know,
September October before I signed here, going out to a
local high school field with my brother and my dad
and my kids and having them spot up and throw
to them and kind of me do my thing and
then at the end bring them together and and have them,
you know, have a little bit of fun and uh,
you know, they're gonna they're gonna be playing football here
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in the next month or two months, and I'll probably
miss some of it, but I'll have a lot of
family back there kind of checking it, checking in on
them for me, and it'll be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Rookie defensive tackle Mason Graham is up next. He's looking
forward to being a problem for opposing offenses and making
an immediate impact.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
Yesterday, they clicked my money in the set and all
you did go.
Speaker 4 (52:03):
Uh felt good, you know. Coming off the spring.
Speaker 11 (52:05):
Uh, it was a lot of technique stuff, so I
kind of just worked on on the off season, you know,
completely different different technique that I'm used to from college.
So it's a little learning process, but I feel like
I'm starting to get it down and feel more confident
every day.
Speaker 26 (52:17):
Can Can you explain a little bit that adjustment and
how difficult it is due cause I think from the
outside you've seen interior alignment, it's like, oh, just you know,
rush the passer or whatever.
Speaker 9 (52:24):
So what what is different about what you.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Have to do here?
Speaker 11 (52:27):
Yeah, so I came in college, I was coming from
a react style defense to like a red react and
now I'm na attack penetration.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
So it kind of just the.
Speaker 11 (52:34):
Little details of you know, s not stopping your feet,
running through contact. You know, there's no such thing as
a double team anymore in our defense, and I'm used
to you know, taking on multiple blocks to gapping and
we don't do that here.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
So it's a little bit of adjustment. You know.
Speaker 11 (52:46):
We've had some guys that have also come from other
defenses like that that I have a little learning curve.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
So I think it's just part of the process measure
even throughout.
Speaker 6 (52:54):
The spring, like you were able to get through some
of that like growing pains so to see.
Speaker 11 (53:00):
In terms of getting used to this kind of tax style, Yeah,
I feel like everyone has a you know, even when
I was talking about my call last year, he came
from a kind of read react uh style defense too,
so he said he had a little bit of learning
curve too. So I mean it's just normal for guys
coming from that defense to this, and it's just a
learning curve.
Speaker 13 (53:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (53:17):
And then N, well, how was second of it didn't
look like you were reading and reacting?
Speaker 4 (53:20):
Was that a different game plan? N I was still
read and react there, but uh yeah, just a little
different here.
Speaker 7 (53:26):
I mean you were attacking a little bit more see individually.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
You Yeah, I mean, I'll I I don't really have
an answer.
Speaker 22 (53:33):
I don't know you wun last time we talked to you,
it was a rookie mini camp and you hadn't really
had an opportunity to really work with Miles. What's it
been like, you know, the getting out there on the
field and the meeting rooms and all that were you know,
and what have you been in what's the biggest thing
You've been able to take from those, you know, those
conversations with it.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Uh, just learning a lot.
Speaker 11 (53:52):
You know, he's been the best for a long time now,
So just being able to be with him on the
field and then just in the meeting rooms. Uh, you know,
knows the defense really well. He works hard. He's obviously
a freak athlete. So I mean now, m I mean,
I can't some of the things you he does, you
can't teach. But it's just cool to be around him
like a player like that.
Speaker 7 (54:10):
Yesterday, Denzel Award was asked which new players he most
interested in seeing developed her drend game.
Speaker 3 (54:17):
You mentioned you, it's the thing.
Speaker 7 (54:19):
It's what one of one of the leaders on the
a pro quarterback.
Speaker 9 (54:23):
Yeah, I think, uh single view out as the guys
that watch.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
Yeah, it means a lot. You know.
Speaker 11 (54:28):
I'm I've been working hard and you know, just like
everyone else, and I wanna, you know, be a player
for this team that can make an impact right away.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
But it's offer weight question.
Speaker 9 (54:35):
Where are you now? We happen awkward weight question?
Speaker 4 (54:38):
Where are you now? Like two ninety two right now?
Where are you when you came in like three or five?
Speaker 13 (54:43):
Okay, so said this is where it want you'd be
as well.
Speaker 11 (54:46):
Yeah, I'll be like around this way, probably like two
ninety five, three hundred, very.
Speaker 6 (54:49):
Different coordinator for years now.
Speaker 12 (54:52):
Probably defensive scheme, anything that you learned about picking up
his scheme.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
And you guitar.
Speaker 2 (54:59):
He this current.
Speaker 11 (55:00):
Yeah, I feel like it's you know, like I said
about the learning curve. You know, once I get this down,
you know, I'll be more comfortable. And I've I me know,
every day I'm feeling more and more comfortable, so cause
I'll I'll have a little more time to you know,
get the full grasp of you know, the defense to
this jog.
Speaker 23 (55:14):
T backing spreads out even though you were in that
red and reacting style.
Speaker 6 (55:17):
Defense in college stas but you know on the tape.
Speaker 19 (55:19):
They call it your skill set and your ability.
Speaker 23 (55:22):
Still sort of showing through that it can sort of traning.
Speaker 19 (55:24):
So I guess do you sort of feel like you're, uh, like,
how do you just how do how has your tr
how does your skill set allow you.
Speaker 11 (55:30):
To show that transitional Yeah, I just feel like I'm
a playmaker in general. You know, that's what the type
of guys that coach Swarts and you know, everyone on
the defense wants, so you know, penetrating making plays, Uh,
even when you're not making a play, causing disruption stuff
like that.
Speaker 20 (55:43):
Have you been able to develop any relationship with get
other than being a teammate?
Speaker 4 (55:49):
I mean, do you you long enough to next.
Speaker 11 (55:51):
From Mom said, yeah, it's really just building the chemistry.
You know, we're gonna be playing with each other on
the field, so it's I know, these days like these
is big opportunities to build that chemistry, cause we're gonna
be playing next to each other, just like you know,
all the other guys along the front we the last.
Speaker 23 (56:08):
A couple of years, uh, the Brouns, and just would
have had you know, we known defensive end like a
big name.
Speaker 3 (56:14):
That's other than the sound of Fredency brought in opposite
a Moor.
Speaker 23 (56:17):
But in this instance, it's more sort of relying on
the interior guys.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
Kind of help them, especially you next to him.
Speaker 6 (56:23):
Do you feel like, how do you feel as a
deeper exact.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
That you can help find you out and a lot
of miles or thaves more and sort of vice versa.
Speaker 11 (56:29):
Yeah, I mean I feel like, you know, everyone sees
that there's a lot of attention on Miles all the time,
So you know, if he's not getting the chip, he's
getting double team the or triple team at sometimes. So
you know, there's a lot of opportunity there, and you know,
maybe you know, if one of us starts, you know,
making some stuff happen, then uh, that'll take a little
bit of pressure off him and they'll give him some
free space. But uh, we're all just just building that chemistry,
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trying to work together.
Speaker 9 (56:51):
What did you feel.
Speaker 7 (56:52):
About the video here commune camp going fire roll?
Speaker 20 (56:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:57):
By that?
Speaker 20 (56:57):
Yeah? All uh dropping your cookies or did you get
a lot of rubbing about that?
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Nah?
Speaker 11 (57:01):
I mean obviously people talked about it, but I just
ate a little too much before practice, that's all.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
And the coach was fun. I you never left practice, yeah,
I I mean I threw up and then came right
back in. So basic.
Speaker 6 (57:11):
It just seems like, from from.
Speaker 19 (57:12):
What we've gotten to see for, you're such like a
low key guy personality wise, very humble, Like I'm not
all top five picks tend to have that.
Speaker 6 (57:19):
Jor like have you always kind of been like this
that were d just tell us a little bit.
Speaker 4 (57:23):
More about that.
Speaker 11 (57:24):
How you might get in the works was Yeah, I
mean I've always been like that, you know, I've always
come from you know, humble beginnings though I wasn't always
the highest recruited or most talked about guy. But you know,
obviously now I became into a top five pick. But uh,
that's besides the point. You know, it doesn't define who
I am. I just wanna play a good football and
you know, make this team better.
Speaker 3 (57:42):
Do you still have to keep in touch with Touching?
Speaker 6 (57:46):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (57:46):
I didn't even play with him actually, so I I
came in the year after him, But you know, I've
talked to him before and I've met him, so it's
pretty cool feelings.
Speaker 23 (57:54):
I I I understanding sort of therothought process of being
a top up baby just gonna laid now.
Speaker 6 (57:59):
You still feel, you know, some level of pressure to you.
Speaker 23 (58:03):
Know, make sure you would up to where the runs
are at at you and especially if anything.
Speaker 6 (58:07):
Can trade it back to get you, and how their other.
Speaker 3 (58:10):
Opportunities to bigger than what does?
Speaker 11 (58:11):
Did you feel any of that as you come especially
the year I mean obviously the you know, being a
top five fit comes with expectations that everyone expects you
to play. You know, I have those expectations for myself
it's just not you know, people saying that about me.
I have those expectations for myself and just trying to
get better and like I said, it's trying to be
an impact, you know that first game and even in
the preseason.
Speaker 15 (58:30):
We we talk a lot about the pressure off the edge,
But what about that interior pressure?
Speaker 5 (58:35):
Why is it so important to be able to generate
that or a defense?
Speaker 11 (58:38):
I mean, I feel like it's really important, you know,
just getting pressure off the edges. You know it can
cause the quarterback to step up, but you know when
the pressure inside as well, you know he's kind of
just suffocated the pocket.
Speaker 10 (58:47):
When we were dropped eighty was talking about how subidays
to high school, Like how did you how did your couches,
how did you make.
Speaker 3 (58:54):
In your life?
Speaker 6 (58:55):
Had that still say or to be an interior press
pressure and like how.
Speaker 9 (58:58):
Did that just kind of come? Like you ever part?
Speaker 4 (59:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (59:02):
I mean I started off as a linebacker in high school,
so I always wanted to be like a linebacker. I
always looked up to like Ray Lewis, James Harrison, uh
those type of guys. But I got bigger and then
I started working uh S my d line coach. He
played in the NFL UH for a little bit but
had some injuries. But I just worked with him, you know,
NonStop in high school, just trying to perfect my technique
and all that. Obviously, I I'm athletic and all that,
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but you know, I have to I pride myself on,
you know, my technique.
Speaker 6 (59:27):
Did they do you on the attitude to try to
respond to?
Speaker 11 (59:30):
Like, yeah, my freshman year I played edge and then
I started just gaining weight in lifting.
Speaker 7 (59:36):
You're talking about the transition to like school stuff.
Speaker 17 (59:39):
It just seems to be a big easier to attack
me of late that.
Speaker 13 (59:43):
So what is so difficult about the transition technical Like.
Speaker 11 (59:47):
I just feel like within the technique, you know, there's
little things like not stopping your feet. You know a
lot of times in the read to read the UH defense,
you stop your feet on contact, you know, brace for
the double teams when you know you're taught here to
just keep running your feet NonStop. So I just feel
like it's really just the muscle memory of what I've
been doing for the past few years. So it's just
kind of trying not to revert to the back my
(01:00:09):
old ways.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
On the defense.
Speaker 11 (01:00:12):
Yeah, I guess so, Yeah, what's your deadline coach in
His name is Kelly Talava.
Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
He played for the Ravens for the few years and
then just he went.
Speaker 16 (01:00:22):
To the past Rush you can if you're during this soon.
Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Or just anything that you picked up.
Speaker 11 (01:00:28):
I mean, yeah, I've always worked with you know, I
was working out with the you know BT Jordan. I've
been working with him the whole summer, you know, when
we're in I was in Phoenix with him, Atlanta with him,
and Houston with him, So we were kind of just
I was kind of just following him, you know, working
out with you know, Malik Collins too in Houston, and
we were just kind of getting some d line working
and building the chemistry as well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Finally, head coach Kevin Stefanski provides his takeaways from yesterday's practice.
Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
He will not practice today, but he's he's progressing.
Speaker 13 (01:00:59):
Well, did that happen in the issue?
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
No? Uh, this was something over the last.
Speaker 13 (01:01:04):
Couple of weeks maybe, but he he He'll be okay.
Speaker 26 (01:01:06):
What about Uh David and David will be out there today,
Jordan not Uh won't be out there today, but no, updated,
I'll upd I will update you guys.
Speaker 9 (01:01:15):
What appropriate on.
Speaker 7 (01:01:16):
Georgian Kevin, could you expound on your importance play your
actions as drums offense?
Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
How much time do I have?
Speaker 26 (01:01:28):
I think it's important probably to most offenses. And and
you know, the things that we do in our play
action game are gonna be different than other teams, and
I think there's so much that's the fun part for
me as a coach.
Speaker 22 (01:01:40):
Uh.
Speaker 26 (01:01:41):
A lot of teams run the same plays, including the
same play actions, but there's so much nuance to those
play actions and what you're asking the line to do
on those plays, what you're asking your receivers and tight
ends to do, how you read it as a quarterback,
what steps you take with the quarterback. So play action
really gets lump into, you know, a big wide swath.
Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Of the game.
Speaker 26 (01:02:03):
There's some sort of playfake from the quarterback to it
another player. Sometimes it's not just a running back, and
you can be under center, you can be in the gun,
you can pull a guard, you can do it off
of all sorts of different actions. So we want to
have a varied scheme in general, and certainly play action
is a part of that, and only because we feel
like it is hard on a defense. I think a
(01:02:23):
good play action play, a good play action scheme, a
team that's good to play action that that's hard on
a defense. And I know, speaking to defenders, being a
former defender myself, I know it's hard when something looks
like one thing and ends up being the other. Rookies
done much of the action or even quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(01:02:44):
both guys have done some. Uh, yep, some have done
some in college. You know, guys are the game in
some ways is the same. In some ways it's so different.
So uh, they're very fortunate to have coach Musgrave giving
them all the ins and outs of ball handling and footwork,
whether it applies to play action or anything. Coach muss
(01:03:06):
is a stickler for all the mechanics that go with
playing the position.
Speaker 15 (01:03:12):
Why you've got away from that l philosophy last year.
Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Works so well for you in the past.
Speaker 26 (01:03:18):
Yeah, honestly, Jeff, not so focused on anything in the past,
really just focused on what we're doing right now. And again,
your offensive scheme is dependent on who your guys are,
what they're comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
With, what they're good at. You know, what's your offensive
line look like.
Speaker 26 (01:03:36):
And then obviously the big influence from coach Rees Coach
bloomngrin that type of thing.
Speaker 10 (01:03:41):
Do you embrace this kind of sweltering heat for your
guys or do you what's your message to them and
how do you worry about.
Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
People having issues?
Speaker 26 (01:03:47):
Well, certainly worry about it. I mean, we're going to
make sure we're safe out here. That's that'll never change.
So we don't want to put our guys in anything
that's ever not safe. So having said that, there is
part of acclimating to the heat and doing it in
very smart way. So we'll be out here for a
shorter amount of time, like like as we ramp up
into training camp, per the rules.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
We'll get our work done.
Speaker 26 (01:04:09):
We'll take a couple of breaks to make sure everybody's
getting hydrated. Our nutrient our dieticians are are doing a
great job inside making sure everybody's getting everything they need
from a hydration standpoint. You guys need to hydrate, Okay,
I don't want to losing anybody out here.
Speaker 16 (01:04:24):
Looked like he was gamed down.
Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Yeah, no, he'll be out there.
Speaker 15 (01:04:26):
Kim after Shader head to the speeding tickets. Did you
talk to him personally with yours?
Speaker 26 (01:04:32):
I did, Obviously, I'll keep that message between Shador and myself,
but I will tell you he knows this, and all
of our rookies know this. They need to make sure
that they're being safe. And that can be whether behind
the wheel of a car or they're in and around town.
They need to make really good decisions so that they're safe.
Speaker 15 (01:04:54):
With the quarterbacks, any warrior discussion at all about not
letting the competition interfere, they're gay gay.
Speaker 26 (01:05:02):
I've talked to our guys, you know, competing for a
starting roles, not new to football, not new to the
quarterback position, that that's just part of what we're doing.
And that's not the only position where guys are competing
for a job. I know that with the number of guys,
I know that's the the part that's unique. But they're
all wired the right way. They know to keep the
(01:05:22):
main thing the main thing.
Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
You look like questions here yesterday was doing.
Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
How how much a working.
Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
Earn the trust from the coaches.
Speaker 9 (01:05:33):
To do that very unusually.
Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 26 (01:05:36):
I think Carson's uniquely situated if if we need him
to do that, he's capable of doing that. I think, well,
you're trying to find out from Carson and all of
our rookies is what they're capable. We're trying to find
out about them. What are they capable of? Are you know,
can you call a defense?
Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Can you?
Speaker 21 (01:05:50):
Uh?
Speaker 26 (01:05:51):
And not just Carson, I'm saying, can you line up
on the edge and rush the passer? Can you line
up in the backfield and catch a ball? If you're
you know, a wide receiver. We're trying to put those
guys in different spots to find out w what they
are capable of. That's that's our job right now in
training camp as we formulate uh, this roster, as as
we get this team ready.
Speaker 4 (01:06:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
I don't know that we know the football team uh
in in July like you do when you get to September. Kevin,
you guys have a lot of receivers in offseason.
Speaker 14 (01:06:16):
I understand that that I had to do with how
you wanted to manage these quarterbacks. But no, outside of
you know, Jerry in Cedric group, what are you hoping
to see in this camp, uh, from the rest of
that position group to give you the the confidence that.
Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
Matter who you put on the field, you're gonna be
able to go out there.
Speaker 9 (01:06:35):
And make the play with the gas.
Speaker 20 (01:06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 26 (01:06:37):
I I I think it's it's a really good group, Darryl.
I think there's different skill sets throughout that group.
Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Uh.
Speaker 26 (01:06:43):
Obviously there's size with with some guys, there's there's a
little bit quicker fast with other guys. Uh, guys that
are better inside, guys that are better outside. So that's
our job to identify the traits an and then uh
design an offense to utilize those trade So I really
like that group.
Speaker 9 (01:07:01):
Nover.
Speaker 14 (01:07:01):
What do you think that dunk his office a while
Obviously Sampson I said to himself, what about him.
Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
As employer or what do you how do Yeah?
Speaker 26 (01:07:11):
I like uh a lot about uh a lot of
things about dyl and Terry. I think he's uh proven
to be really really intelligent, which we knew that you
know you do. You do so much homework on these
guys and you put them through the process, uh prior
to the draft that so I knew that he could
handle a lot. But I've been really impressed with just
he picks things up very quickly. He doesn't make the
(01:07:32):
same mistake twice.
Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Uh.
Speaker 26 (01:07:34):
He he fits in well, he works really hard, got
a great personality. Uh, he's gonna he's gonna push himself
uh out here which I see him doing. And then
kind of to Tony's question earlier, we gotta find out
what he's capable of. We w we have to see
what he can do in this offense, and then if
he earns that role, can we expand that role.
Speaker 8 (01:07:51):
Joe mentioned that the intensity after of the preany cap
was really a mental thing, as it's about wanting to
win and be focused on getting. As a coach, is
there scandible way to like maybe help install that mindset
that you guys are looking forward to get the most
that a camp in that part?
Speaker 26 (01:08:06):
Yeah, I I I think, uh, certainly football you have
to be right mentally to play this game. And uh
so much of this our game uh is about winning
and losing and is about getting ready for September. But
there's all the little dirty work, the little things in
this building that that no one notices, that have to
get you ready for that. So I think, at least
(01:08:28):
mentality wise, for our football team, uh, we recognize that
the season's coming in September. But man, we got so
much work to do. We we we Uh, there's a
lot of some physical works and mental work. Uh, but
we're just gonna keep our head down and focus on
that work.
Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
When we talk to dos I Minni Canton. You talked
about Dylan Bean used a lot in the slot. Has
there been a shift given the situation money back, where
now he's more in the backfield maybe than.
Speaker 26 (01:08:55):
He had been to the other I I think, well,
there's just we can ask to I think m more
than anything, that's a product of finding like seeing what
these guys can do. So it's I wouldn't say it's
we're carving out those roles just yet. It's it's more
we want to see what a guy's capable of because
in this day and age, as you know, versatility is
(01:09:17):
really important. So if that's something he can do. But
I think we're still in wait and see mode on
Dylan in that regard. But also for a bunch of
these guys.
Speaker 12 (01:09:26):
Kevin, what have you thought of Mason Graham just because
he did a couple of pass rushing camps and work
with my league since Dan the mini camp.
Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Had come in here.
Speaker 26 (01:09:34):
Yeah, he's worked very, very hard going back to the
day he got on campus here with our coaches. You know,
he worked very hard when he was away from the
building before getting those guys back. But that's another young
player who I think is is is gonna get better
every day because he's just he's attacking it. He's not
a finished product.
Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
He wants to work at it.
Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
And that's the right attitude for a young man like that.
Speaker 4 (01:09:59):
I always do it.
Speaker 13 (01:10:00):
Look says he's got on platform.
Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Yeah good.
Speaker 26 (01:10:02):
I mean we're only one practice in, but uh, he's
doing a nice job. Obviously, is working really well with
his new coaches, understanding there's some different nuance to what
we're doing. There's different terminology, those type of things. So
working very hard.
Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
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