The boys are back with the latest episode of Best Podcast Available! This week, we're diving deep into all the action from Week 2 of the Browns OTAs. Join us as we break down the key takeaways from practice, discuss standout performances, and analyze what it all means for the upcoming season. PLUS, we've got an exclusive interview with Browns Safety Grant Delpit! Hear directly from Grant as he talks about his off-season, his thoughts on the team's progress, and what he's focusing on during voluntary workouts and mandatory minicamp!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's my six year you know, like I said, fifty
on the field. So guys look up to me, you know,
in this in this building, you know, whether I like
it or not. So I'm definitely embraced that role. Not
really always have, but it's nice time for, you know,
to make it definite and no question about it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Remember, friends, there is no off season, doesn't exist at all.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Football is kind of beer because it never went anywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome to another edition of the best podcast available Ota
pre mandatory Mini Camp edition. My name is Andrews Ciciliano.
Back from vacation and back in it on the other
side of your screen or maybe in the other ear,
hopefully you're listening in stereo. Don't know how this actually
comes out. Is Jason Gibbs, tanned, rested, ready from gallivanting
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around the Motherland, gallivanting around Italy?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Gibbe, It is good to see it.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It's a pleasure, my friend. We were in France. Were
you at the French Open?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I did.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's been a nice little run for you as well.
We've covered the continent.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yes, it was a great run.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Did Israel was in Tel Aviv for a few days
and then I went to France, and yes, I checked
that box on the French Open.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Wanted to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was there day one, got a grounds pass, wandered around,
saw Tommy Paul his four setter. On the opening day
there role on Garols, had an amazing time, checked the box,
beautiful venue. Hope anyone and everyone can do it. And
then equally, if not more important, the next day went
to Normandy. Had always wanted to do that, and actually
you and I have talked about this plan to do
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it in the bye week after the Browns London game
this year. Yeah, there was no bye week, so I
kind of, you know, figured it out on the fly
and did Normandy. Memorial Day weekend did Normandy. So I
can't recommend that enough.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It is powerful.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We say every year, you know, we thank every one
in uniform for their soccer, every man and woman for
their sacrifice, and we remember those who have given their
life in defense of this country. When you stand there
in Normandy at Omaha Beach and you see the American Cemetery,
you can stay there for hours and hours and hours
(02:17):
just reading the names. We took a different path here
than football. Bear with me, but you read every name there,
and you know every name. Yeah, I wasn't around in
the forties, but you know every name because you went
to school with somebody with that last name, or your
neighbor has that last name, and you know those stories.
And just imagine being twenty two years old. We've all
been there and this is what you decided to do.
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You were the greatest generation and you went to fight
evil and it is powerful and I cannot recommend it enough.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, I would love to go to Normandy. I'm a
World War Two buff. My grandfather fought and flew bombers
for the Air Force in World War Two. So definitely,
definitely a bucket list item. My daughter was lucky enough
to go a few years ago and pretty awesome. The
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pictures and the pictures don't do it justice.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And I know that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So yeah, to be there at four o'clock at the
cemetery where they lower the flags and play taps, there's
pretty I don't know that I've ever experienced anything like that,
So do it. And you know what, Also, let's talk football,
So let's go. Let's get that out of the way.
This is the best podcast available, and let's try to
give you the best analysis available of OTAs. Reminding you
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that OTAs are voluntary. It is part of the voluntary
NFL off season program, collectively bargained by the NFLPA with
the league to make this portion here voluntary. Next week,
it's mandatory. Next week, it is newsworthy if your favorite
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player is not there, but your favorite player will be
there because you're getting fined significantly fined finds that cannot
be rescinded.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So everybody will be there next week, So keeping that
in mind.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And there are also players that were there for OTA's
that didn't do anything on the you like, for example,
Joe Potonio, who spoke this week at the Browns Charity
Golf tournament at Westwood Country Club. He spoke on Monday.
We'll get into his comments coming up shortly. He did
stuff really only inside, right, He was working at it inside.
He wasn't on the field, but he was there. But
players like Micah Parsons, for example in Dallas, he was
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kind of sort of there, but he wasn't on the field.
He also did some traveling, like maybe your favorite player
wearing number ninety five here did some traveling.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It is okay, okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
In a perfect world, would you like perfect attendance at
at OTAs. Yes, that goes without saying. But mandatory minichamp
and training camp are what is important. And that is
when attendance, I think you and I are on this
same page here truly does matter.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah one p I mean Greg Newsom was on Browns
Daily on Monday from the golf outing and he said,
you know, I had I had a commitment with my
with my baby daughter, and you know, my fiance in
Arizona last week. I couldn't be here for OTAs. But
he's here this week and he's back on the field.
But you know, and and it's it's the media's job
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to report on it, like who's there, who's not there,
But just make sure that the caveat is everybody knows
it's voluntary. Next Tuesday, when we hit the practice field
at about eleven thirty in the morning. Now, if you're
not on that field, I there will be questions. Now,
there could be guys still working inside rehabbing. I know
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David Bell still coming back from an injury. But you know,
you're more than likely you're on the field. You're maybe
you're working off to the side, maybe you're on the
tour day berea. You're riding the bike and and everything
along those lines.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You need to be in the building, and you need
to be in the building actually starting on Monday, because
the team meeting is at five point fifteen to kick
of the week.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, and those players about which you likely had consternation
about not attending OTAs, they will be in that team
meeting on Monday.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yep, I gam run to you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
By the way, like I mentioned Michael Parsons, it's not
just him, Rashaun Slater, Chargers O lineman waiting for his
new contract. He wasn't at Charger OTAs. Puka Nakua had
a family outing Samoa, you know, a cool thing to do,
much like Greg Newsom wanted to be with the family,
had a commitment.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
He wasn't at some of the rams OTAs.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Michael Parsons, Travis Kelce was only on the field like
for a minute, right, he was mostly inside. I know, listen,
I also care. I also want to know which quarterback
looks better. I really do. But it is only as
we take this today June fifth. Okay, it is significant that,
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for example, in Wednesday's session, we're taping this Thursday. Yes,
Shador Sanders got some more reps in eleven. On eleven
in team stuff, the Browns are going to what's called
two spot, in which they're really because they have the
four quarterbacks they need to get work. They have two
sets of drills happening at the same time on different
fields or other parts of the same field because they
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need to get the quarterbacks work. I know that you
want to overanalyze the passing efficiency numbers and overanalyze whether
or not Caden Davis, speaking of the Chargers, got a
foot down of the back of the enzone on that
really nice ball in the red zone that Chador threw
on Wednesday. I stress to not over analyze it, but
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at the same time, I'm saying I'm excited and that
I care too. Both can be true. There is so
much more between now and Week one against the Bengals,
and I think Tommy Rees comments Wednesday, we're really telling
Mary Kay Cabot tip of the cap to her Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Mary Kay Cabot.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Asked, can you see a scenario in which any of
these four quarterbacks, the healthy ones not including DeShawn Here
still rehabing, can win this starting job?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And Tommy Ree said, yeah, absolutely, And.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Then as the scrum was breaking up, Tommy kind of said,
I mean to be a pretty sad answer if I
said no, right, And I think that's the way that
we have to frame all of this. This isn't real
football yet. Pads haven't come on yet. At a coach
years ago, tell me there weren't shorts. It doesn't matter
until you switch out of shorts. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, and I think you're getting work in. It's still
a lot of install you know, you're installing your offense,
you're installing your defense. There's not I mean, Jim Schwartz
said it best. You know, someone asked about Mason Graham
and Carson Swessinger, and there's not really I can't really,
he said, I don't really know how to tell you
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if they're good or not good right now or where
they're at. You know, we're doing a lot of classroom instruction.
We're watching some of their stuff when they're in one
on one drills, but or position like work. He's like,
I can do that, but like until we're actually tackling
and we're you know, eleven on eleven, line them up, helmets, pads,
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everything else, there's not really a way to know how
good or where the defense really is. Offensively, I mean
defensively in the secondary. They made some plays yesterday. Quarterbacks
looked okay at times. The defense also had came away
with I think four interceptions yesterday. So you get some positives,
you get some negatives. More importantly, you're actually seeing some
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football now over the last two weeks, which is fun
to watch in May.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was going to say, and Schwartz made the point
yesterday as well, because it kind of a themed this week,
and with the first time we had heard from him
SHORTZ since the season ended. I believe if memory serves
you know that obviously got to get back to the
defense we saw in twenty twenty three, the best defense
in the NFL. Even if it's not all the way
back to number one, somewhere the top ten would be nice,
and this whole team, this whole building would feel different.
Schwartz said, you need more I in t's and fewer PBUs.
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A lot of PBUs last year he had to turn
those into I iNTS, So for I iNTS on Wednesday
is certainly a step in the right direction. And he
also Jim Schwartz made the headline and this is the
headline to takeaway that everyone's going to run with is
that he said, I think Miles is going to have
the best year of his career. The exact quote is,
I really think Miles is going to have the best
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season of his career and has to write you know
what I mean? And I've told him this before. That's
what Spider Man. It's a spider Man quote. With great
power comes great responsibility. That with the big contract, with
the notoriety that came along with that, with the process
that it took to get him to that point. It's
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always pressure in this league, but probably a little bit
more so that brings out the best in players, and
I know that'll be the case with Miles.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Refreshing to hear him say that I don't like, and
I always have said this, I don't like the P word,
the pressure word when it comes to sports analysis, especially
in the NFL. For years doing sports talk radio, Gibbe,
you know, we get to a Friday show where we're
trying to pick the game, and you're always like, well,
so and so has more pressure on them this week,
and I'm like, come on, guys, this is a league
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in a business that is built on a foundation of pressure.
No one gets to this point in their career or
playing the National Football League unless you have faced pressure
all along the way. And my point being, it's it's
pretty equal, right, Monday is gonna suck for the team
that lost and the players that lost, regardless. So to
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try to pick a game by saying, well, there's more
pressure on this team, I never bought into that. I
think there's pressure on all of us. There's pressure on you,
this pressure on me, pressure on every one of the building.
This is the biggest stage in American sports performed today, right.
But I do think at the same time, there's something
refreshing to hear Jim Schwartz say, yeah, hey, you know what,
not only did he sign the contract, it took a
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lot to get there, he's paid a lot of money
and we expect a lot of them. But you know what,
he has always done this, he has meeting, he has
always performed, so I expect him to do it again.
And I think he's gonna have his best year ever.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If I'm Jim Schwartz, that's what I have to go
off of. I mean, he's you know, Miles has been
around a couple times throughout the offseason. But he hasn't
been here a whole lot. He's been traveling. He has
every right.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
To do that. He's back in the USA, I can
tell you that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But I mean you've seen the workout videos. I mean
he's working out. He's working out with Michael Parsons a
little bit, you know. I mean that's he's worked out.
He's always kept him self in good shape. Fully expect
next week when we see him on the field here
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at Cross Country Mortgage Campus, that he will be his
usual disruptive self.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And let's make something clear here about how Miles travels.
He's not traveling with just a carry on and you know,
hotels tonight on his phone trying to figure out where
he's going to put his head down tonight. He is
traveling with a workout team. He doesn't travel solo. So
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wherever in the world you may find him on Instagram,
you better believe that that day of travel included his
team and a professional workout. Now, I'm being dead serious.
That's how he rolls. That's also what that contract affords you.
So that is how he rolls, and I have no
doubt that he will roll in ready a couple of
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other things. Aside from what Jim Schwartz said, I want
to get back to what Joel Buttonio said on Monday,
and I think I think those might have been the
most significant comments to come out of any microphone this week,
whether they'd be in Bria or at Westwood Country Club.
I thought what Joel said about the offense finally kind
of saying out loud and confirming what we all knew.
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But what I think Kevin and Tommy Reese had been
reluctant to really say, oh yeah, we're rolling it back
out loud, because Kevin always says, and this is true,
you want to move the offense forward, not moving back.
But what Potonio said about how this offense is going
to look, I think warmed a lot of people's hearts,
myself included. And what he basically said is that with
Mike Blumgren taken over as the offensive line coach, which
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he said was a huge reason he came back, Potonio
said and didn't retire, that we are getting back to
run of the football. He said, not only wide zone,
the power and gap scheme as well. You want to
go back to the old Stanford days where with Mike Blungren,
they ran the ball on David Shawn Jim Harbaugh eighteen
nineteen times in a row. I don't know if we're
going to do that, but Potonio said, they're showing David
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Castro caught ups in meetings, right, So that's David de Castro,
NOTU with the Steelers, but with Stanford. He said, they've
got to bring the toughness back. He said Bloomgren has
done that certainly. And he said Joel's words that they
need an O line coach who is a bleep jerk
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another four letter word that begins with a D. And
Joel said, I'm sorry, and he said it and then
everyone laughed. And it's a friendly reminder not to not
to rip any coach that was here last year. But
it's three O line coaches now in three years. And
Mike Blumgren is not Bill Callahan, but he certainly seems
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to be different than the vibe you had last year
with Andy Dickerson and Dellahan treed too exactly, and you
need to bring that back. And Buttonio also made the
point that, hey, the defense took a step backwards last year,
but we can't be keeping the defense on the field
for seventy plays a game. We need to control the ball.
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I know it's twenty twenty five. I got to throw
the ball too, But run of the football. Controlling the
ball it is refreshing to me and to Wyatt Teller
and to Ethan Posk in this entire room. And it's
going gibbe to help the defense.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So offense struggled to score points last year. They were
in a game most in the NFL. You're not going
to win many games. We prove that you win three
to fourteen scoring eighteen points a game. If you're going
to be better offensively, you obviously have to score more,
but you also have to give your defense the chance
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to get some rest.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
How do you do that?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
All control smart plays, passing plays that are smart. Don't
take risks, take risk, I guess when you have to.
But otherwise play smart, tough and accountable. And we're getting
back to the basics for Kevin Stefanski and company.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And listen, you do that, you run the football, You
make that play action game that much more effective for
a rookie quarterback. If it is a rookie quarterback, set
it up to take those shots. Now it goes hand
in hand. If that rookie quarterback is having trouble delivering
the football down the field, then the run game may
not be as effective. But go back to twenty twenty
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three if it is Joe Flacco. But just remember how
that offense looked. The play action, those deep shots do
Amari Cooper, they were there because you could still effectively
run the football and it goes hand in hand. It's
complimentary football, right. It's refreshing to kind of to feel
that even in June, you're heading.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Back in that direction.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, And going back to Greg newsom on with the
Browns Daily Crew on Monday at the golf outing at
the Browns Foundation twenty fifth Annual, it's he's like, there's
a difference from a year ago, Like maybe it's we
know we had an upper tunity last year and it
kind of slipped and fell apart al on us because
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everything this year seems to be amped up, ramped up
practices seem to be a little more, a little more upbeat,
maybe even a little more grueling on the body for
this time of year. I mean, I'm not going to
say physical, because you're not tackling, you're not having that.
But I think I think this organization and they've made
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some updates on the sports performance and the dietitian side
and everything. I think they're challenging these players a lot
more here this offseason, which I think is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And two spot can do that right, simultaneous drills to
benefit a quarterback competition can do that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
More work. But we have to be careful.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
You can't overwork guys because that is the danger. As
you try to get the quarterbacks more work, you're overworking the.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Rest of the roster. They're going to be smart with that.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But something to keep in mind and remember, and I've
said this repeatedly, you have the two joint practices.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
The Panthers and the.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Eagles also forgot this one. All three preseason games will
be simulcast live on NFL Network. So for those of us,
for those of you rather who are not in Northeast Ohio,
who are not able to watch the Browns preseason games
live in Cleveland or anywhere else throughout Ohio, they will.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Be simulcast on NFL Network.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So there's that, all three, including the home game, the
only home game of the preseason, the third and final
one against the Rams, one final thing I want to
get in here about the offensive line. Duwan Jones spoke
on Wednesday. He's progressing well. He's on the field, which
is certainly positive. Obviously after his broken ankle Week eleven
ended his season in New Orleans. Remember he was playing
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left tackle that day. They had moved him over to
left tackle with all the injuries. He quitted himself fairly
well that it was telling, and I appreciate Dewan's honesty
that he said that. He told Andrew Barry, he told
Kevin that he preferred not to play left tackle. He's
more comfortable on the right side. He is right handed.
His right handed punch is better than his left handed punch,
and that's what he's always played. That's where he feels
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at home. But that he is open to the challenge.
He is down to do it and he's gonna give
it his best. Dawan Jones is your left tackle. And
in essence, the Browns have two right tackles they do
They're gonna put one of them at left tackle, and
you hope Dewan can do it. He's a power player
left side's a little bit more of a finesse as
he put it. Position he's watching Trent Brown, also a
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big man who's played left and made that transition. He's
watching Tristan Wurfs a little bit as well. He's trying
to get some pointers and he is working on it.
But he admits that he is a work in progress
at the position, but also with his physique. He's taken off,
he said, about twenty pounds. Well, he's taken off a
lot of fat and added a lot of muscle, but
he's weighing the same. He's still in the neighborhood of
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three seventy three seventy five give, but he said he's
turned some of that fat into muscle.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I love Big Fanos.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I want to him succeed as much as anybody on
this football team. His heart is as big as his
three hundred and seventy five pound frame. I mean, I
love him. He's a super good guy. I think he's
his head's in the right place. I think he's got
some structure here. This offseason, he seemed really dedicated. Joel
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Bottonio said it the other day that he's been in
the building most of the offseason. He's been here, he
hasn't missed off season workouts. He's dedicated and committed to
making this change. Hey, Danus, reach out to Joe Thomas.
H I know you're watching Tristan Wurfs. I know you're watching.
Talk to the Hoff, get the Huff, find out the
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process because Hoff had a whole notebook on every defensive
lineman he was going up against preparation, watching tape. Pick
his brain. He is a resource. He's a big fan
of yours. That's the only thing I would say. Reach
out to Joe Thomas.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
He has time.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I think he I don't know if he's back from
the galapgos and writing sea turtles.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
But I don't know what's going to help. He's happy
to help.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And I And speaking of reaching out to Joe Thomas
for help, I had a night in Munich a few
weeks ago, like on a layover at a fifteen hour
layover in Munich, had to change planes, different different tickets,
long story. Hit up the Hoff. I'm like, Joe, I
got one night in Munich, Buddy, what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
And you made your.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Flight seven pages of notes. He's it's detail orientages.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He's oriented like you're looking at and you're like this
is ai. You're like, no, it's not Ai, because and
one of them is like, and if you go to
this beer hall, ask for my buddy Christian, we go
hunting and you need to get this, and like, this
is not Ai, this is not tripped by this is
not him scraping Yelp reviews. This is a detailed Joe
Thomas eating and drinking plan the expectations.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yes, he's the best, and you made it to the plane.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I'm not so sure that one is making it to
the plane with the number of libations.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You may or may not, although that is another story.
I won't bor you. Actually, I will bore you on
the way.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So when you land in Munich, you take the train
downtown and on the platform they have the train, the.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Ticket, the ticket machines.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Right, So you take the escalator down here on the
platform and then here there are all the ticket machines.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
All right, buy your ticket. Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So I bought my ticket seventeen euros, right, like twenty bucks.
You get on the train, you go downtown. No one
check my ticket, and when you get off the train
there's no machine to swipe through, no gateway to go through.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
My Okay, but I bought my ticket right. You didn't
know that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So on the way out in the morning, to leave
after a night out of Joe Thomas recommendations, I get
down to the platform. Now in the city, there are
no ticket machines. Like, what is going on here? There's
no machine. I'm wandering the platform, no machine, no machine.
Here's the train. Doors are open, bell is sounding, train's
about to go. I got to get to the airport.
I'm like, what am I doing here?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
No one's like, maybe back to the city or back
to the airport. You don't need the ticket, right, Maybe
that's why. Anyway, so I jump on the train. We
are twenty seconds from the airport. No one had asked
for a ticket. No conductor all of a sudden out
of nowhere, as if conjured.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Up by other That's how they That's how I ran
into him. In Italy. Here's the conductor ticket. I'm like,
oh boy.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm like, well, I left it in my hotel room,
which is a true story. I had the other ticket
that no one ever took on my night stand.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I forgot that.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Whatever, it's an old ticket, and I'm like, can I
just pay you now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yes, you may like great, take my phone out. He
takes a little thing out. I tapi prints en, hands
it to me and walks away. I'm like, okay, cool,
I look at it. What do you think that ticket
costs on the train? Instead of seventeen, you're ninety euros.
It's a sixty euro train ticket. They're finding you.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, basically, here's your fifty dollars. Fine, you enjoyed that?
Like I could have taken a cab.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, anyway, I digress. What's that lesson learned? You got
through it, you got to the airport. It's all right,
all right, just a few extra dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Moving on.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It is hard to believe that this is year five
for our guest on on BPA the best podcast available,
Grant Delpit.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Where do the years go? Man? Year five? Dude?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Is it year five?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Hold on six? Wait a minute, I'm looking this sixth
those you're five? Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well count the injury year? Yeah, you're five on the field,
how about that? Okay, so year six? Then I got
it wrong. It's your five slash six? Where where did
the time go?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Time waste for no man? You know, as we see
you know, it flies by. So just trying to make
an impact while I can man and lead this team.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Before we talk about the football, talk about life, talk
about the off season. Going through your I g h
horror Juku Street Tokyo in March.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
That look cool.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, it's a great place, Tokyo, very very nice people,
very orderly. Got to travel around a little bit while
I can. So it's important to do that. Those those
things for me, you know, I like, I like doing
that while while I can.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know, hey man, you gotta live your life. I'm
doing I'm doing Tokyo. Actually I'm doing Mount Fuji in July.
So between like mini camp and training camp. Any you
got any tips, you got any restaurant recommendations, What should
I do?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
See? I mean, I didn't do anything outside of the city,
but hey man, them local le Roman stops like it's
top tier. Now I'm looking forward to the vintage you know,
sushi and the real sashimi and stuff like that. Man,
that's type of food I like though, So I don't
know if it's for.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You, No, it is for me. That's exactly what I like.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I was there years and years and years ago and
I did hard Juku Street like on a Sunday like you,
and it was fantastic. I want to go back and
do that. I don't like the rotating sushi though. Did
you go to one of those where like it's moving,
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yes, that's given like conveyor you know, vending machine.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, I don't like the conveyor belt conveyor belt sushi.
I can live with that. I can live with that.
Let's get to the football.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Everyone says ots feel a little bit different, like everything
like in general feels different this year. A little more intensity,
a little more focused. Do you feel that as well?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think that that was a big emphasis coming in.
Maybe you know, it was a little bit too lax
last year. Maybe we need to go a little harder
this year. So if it's any question about it, I
think it's you know, we need to attack it at
a at a at a higher rate, higher speed every day.
You know. Obviously it wasn't good enough last year. So
something needs to change, and it starts with our effort
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for real. So that's what we're focusing on right now.
Control that we control.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
We can't do too much physical, uh, you know, violence
and stuff like that, So just make sure our tempo
is as up as it can be, you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Know, And that's what I keep reminding people it's June,
so like, don't jump to big conclusions.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's June.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It does ramp up though next week for mandatory Mini Camp.
Grant explain to the fans the difference in intensity, and
I realize it's still going to be June next week
between OTAs and mandatory Mini camp.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I mean, mandatory Mini Camp is basically more what
you're gonna see real high you know, competitive levels of
one on one's, you know, real real work. You know
right now, it's work, but it's it's fine tuning stuff.
And Mini camp you actually get to see a lot
more competitive physical nature of what we do. So that's
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the opportunity. You get to see me get on the
quarterbacks a lot more.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Or you're gonna get out the quarterback a lot more.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, you know, you know I gotta lead the way.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You gotta lead the way. Let's talk about the leadership thing.
Your coach at from Bondo was on the radio with
Nathan and Bo yesterday and he kind of pulled the
curtain back and talked about the conversations he's had with
you about leadership here in year five, year six, call
it whatever you want, and how he sees you on camera,
he sees you with the media, how comfortable you are
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in this kind of setting, and that he wants that
leadership to take the next step this year.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
What does that look like for you?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
What I think? Sometimes I'm real hard on myself. So
you know, obviously I didn't have a great year last year.
I mean, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I did
to some people, but I didn't get the ball enough.
It's all about getting that ball in this league and
making a difference in getting the ball back for offense.
So I gotta do a better job of that. But
you know, it's my sixth year, you know, like I said,
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fifty on the field. So guys look up to me,
you know, in this in this in this building. You know,
whether I like it or not. So I'm definitely embraced
that role, not really always have, but it's not time for,
you know, to make it definite and no question about it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So you're the veteran now in the room. I mean
it's rocket.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You got the two veterans coming in free agent and
CAZy and Jenkins. But not calling you an old man.
You're the big ten US guy. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
In the room.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, yeah, let's let's let's do this, because it's like
I had somebody call me unk the other day and
it's like, I'm not I'm not that, Like it's not
it's not that yet. Just go through the age. Let's
just go through the age, like, okay, twenty one to
twenty twenty to twenty four, it's like little little bro.
Like it's like, man, twenty twenty three, it's like young
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young buck, you know, twenty four to twenty eight, twenty nine,
big bro twenty five. We're gonna skip twenty four because
that's just a random age. Twenty five to twenty nine,
big bro thirty Okay, like in league terms, you're og
at that point. Unk. Don't call me O g unk
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right now, I'm big bro.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Still, you're gonna be twenty seven in the September, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, man, you know it's getting.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So then what is Flacco?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Uh, he's just the one off I don't know what he.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Is, not Grandpa, Yeah, Flaco is like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I won't call him Grandpa, I'll just call him experience.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, Well let's get to the quarterback thing, because you
did play two games with Joe back in twenty three
everyone got so excited obviously. I mean you should see
social media. I know you did the day that he signed,
and then we got to the draft and then like, Grant,
I know how much my phone is blowing up. I
just took a trip. I know how much people are
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stopping me asking me about the quarterback situation, like what
is your phone?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like, what's it like for you.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Going to the grocery store when it's the only thing
anybody wants to talk about.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Like I said, I said, I don't get paid to
make those decisions.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
No, I'm not saying making the decision.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm just saying, you know, it's the only thing anybody
wants to talk.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
About, exactly. Like and at the end of the day,
he asked me, you know, I'm like, yo, I give
everybody the same answer. I don't make these decisions, you know,
like you could I just let them live in fantasyland
because they think they know it, you know, I just
you know, try to just go on, Yeah, whatever you
think is right, you know. So we're gonna see what
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it is. But like, at the end of the day,
it's gonna be a competition. I guess, you know, I
don't make those decisions.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
What was your reaction on draft day? Tell the truth,
Tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I really didn't, you know, Like I knew that at
the end of the day we was gonna get a
great player, So I didn't even really wasn't that I
didn't watch it. I was waiting on my phone to
just to see the news. Guy know, I was gonna
be like overly into it, So I'm just like, let
me just see who we get. Yeah, we got a good,
great piece of that deteching room.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yep. And then day two got some weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Days too, well, yeah, we definitely got some weapons. How
I leave out day two? I went Day two, So
that's my bet. I'm thinking about day one. So but
that's the point is that's the way to tie it in.
Day two is the foundation of your football team. Generally speaking,
people put so much seriously, people put so much focus
on day one. Right, that's the big show, right, that's
the shiny object, that's the big deal about Day one.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Come on, But you know what.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I'm saying, Day two and good football teams are built
on day two. That's the way I look at it, exactly.
You can't have a good football team. You look at
the teams that go deep in the postseason. They're built
on day two. Just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I'm talking about the offense in general.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I thought Joe Buttonio said out loud with a lot
of people knew and internally and a lot of the
fans wanted as well. When this week he said that
the offense, the install at least feels a lot like
twenty twenty and twenty twenty one right wide zone and
power and just getting back to run of the football,
getting back to what the core the identity is. But
he also made the point grant that the offense has
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to help you guys out right. So being on the
field for seventy snaps, you talked about turnovers. You're not
getting turnovers around the field for seventy sixty seventy snaps, right,
That's when you guys get worn down. That's when you
give up the explosives. And he talked about how to
get back to winning football. They have to run the ball,
but they have to give you guys on that side
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of the ball a little bit of help.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I mean, that's one hundred percent agreeable.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I was to say, let's talk about offense, and I
was gonna say I play defense. So I can't talk
about that, but going off that, I think that, you know,
I know, you can't have a great defense without a
without an offense. You know, you can't have great offense
without a defense. So you know, as we've seen last year,
it was just too you know, too much, too swede,
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you know, too too up and down on both sides.
So we got to have a consistency in order to
be you know, good on both sides.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You mentioned the turnovers, schwarts. You mentioned the turnovers again yesterday.
How do you force more turnovers and still play fundamental football?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I don't know. I think it's a mindset of mentality,
you know. Uh, you know, even if it comes to
punching the ball, like you have to have a predetermined
mindset of I'm not just gonna make this tackle, I'm
gonna you know, punch the ball up, you know, and
capitalizing on plays. I even dropped a pick last year.
I think it was my first of my career. Second,
I don't know, I don't know how many drop picks
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I have, but I haven't had a lot. So, you know,
just capitalizing on those plays, man, is the biggest thing,
because you don't never know when they're gonna come back.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Hey, but the good player. Remember the places you don't make,
not the plays you do make. Right, Yeah, yeah, I
guess so seriously. I mean it's it's six to that. Hey.
I know we do totally different things.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
But when I drive home on Sunday, I think about
the calls that could have gone better as opposed to
the calls that went great. Because you're not going to
get better if you only look at your highlights. Yeah, right, exactly,
that's why you exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But then again, you got to move on. That was
one day, Today's Tuesday, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Totally absolutely, and you move on and then you get
another shot coming up on on Sunday, and you get
another shot at some time off as well. Let's uh,
last thing, Grant looking past next week. I know you
got to live live in the moment, but you have
anything good plan for that month off?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
No? I mean, I'm actually at a home base in
Dallas now. I just bought my first, you know, real house, Congress,
so I'm looking forward to getting that together, sailing down. So,
but the furnishing part is crazy. I ain't lie. I'm
not looking forward to that. But dude, you said I
might be twenty seven, I gotta start.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Grown up stuff. But full disclosure, full disclosure.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
If you saw what the rest of this room look
like right now, I have been in this house for
eight years. I don't know that I still have all
that furniture stuff done. Yeah, well we could do that, Okay,
find someone who's going to do that for you, because
I still haven't found that.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, grant, great, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I appreciate you coming on, enjoy the last week of
mandatory work. I'll see you in Borea next week and
looking forward to seeing you all back.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
On the field. All right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Appreciate it, all right, So let's look ahead to next week.
School is almost out for summer. There are three more
days mandatory mandatory MIDI caamp coming up on the tenth,
of the eleventh and the twelfth, give me as you noted, Monday,
team meeting on the ninth, and then you're on the
field those three days. I want to warran people right now.
It may only be two days. Most teams don't do
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anything on Thursday. The coach in this case, Kevin Stefanski,
may very well come to the podium after Wednesday's practice
and say, hey, we're gonna go to a team golf
outing or top golf, or do something in the community
or who knows. On Thursday, most coaches do that and
then it is truly schools out for summer. But I
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will say this, everything I said at the beginning of
this episode about not reading too much in to the
quarterback numbers and how they look, I'm gonna start to
throw that out next week because I think next week
actually does matter, and I think next week is a
benchmark on which you can plan training camp. Tommy Reese
was asked during OTA's do you have a plan? I
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see what you're doing now, but do you have a
plan for the quarterbacks and the reps come training camp?
And he says, oh, it's a work in progress. I
think some of those decisions give a may factor on
how these guys look this.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Week at I think this starts to set what your
depth chart. Depth chart used that looks like the first
day of training camp in terms of who's getting the reps,
because now you're you know, now you're working on who's
getting the most reps, and now you have a first
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team that's getting the majority, a second team that's getting
X number, a third team that might get a series
and a fourth team that might get a couple plays
this set. Who's the rotation, what's the rotation at running
back going to look like? What who's gonna play wide receiver?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
What does Deontay Johnson look like?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Because that was I don't call it a bally Hood signing,
but it was a curious one. A couple of weeks ago.
He has not been there for atas, so it's got
it's mandatory. Now you gotta be there.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah, defensive ends, You've got a loaded defensive end room.
What's that rotation look like? You know who who's in
on the first team reps? Who's ending on the second
team reps?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
And do those change throughout? Like next week we start
to see, Okay, this is what it's probably gonna look
like when they report to training camp in July or
this is kind of determining what training camp will at
least start off looking like.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And also next week you're going to have a feel
for the calendar in training camp as well. We still
don't have and they're trickling out from other teams the
official training camp map. I'm gonna guess first work on
the field is going to be July twenty sixth, that Saturday.
Don't quote me on it, but somewhere in that vicinity
with players trickling in the week of the twenty first,
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obviously rookies first, and that eventually veterans in that first
full week of practice would be the week of the
twenty eighth. Again, don't count me, but that's just how
they or don't quote me, that's just how the calendar
correct generally works. And then we'll have everything set in
stone there with the joint practices with the Eagles and
with the Panthers, and buckle up, baby, football is officially back.
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We'll have your your walking papers if you will, for
the rest of your summer next week, including jury duty
currently schedule for the week of the twenty first for
this guy.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Wow, don't worry. We're working on it.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Bishop had jury duty. We had to work through that.
You have jury What is going on? They know what
I'd like to think, they know who you are.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Okay, So back backstory, real quick, very quickly. I promise
I had jury duty the week before rookie.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Minni caamp Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
And how they work it is you you have to
go online the night before and they tell you if
we need a jury the next day, right, you know
it works, right.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
So nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Nothing, All of a sudden, they call me it on Friday, right,
And if they call you it on Friday, You're like, Okay,
all I got to do is get through today and
then my week is over. But at the same time,
you're like, well, if I'm calling you in on a Friday,
they may actually need a jury, right. So I'm in
there and I'm in there, and I'm in there and
it's like noon, and I'm like, I got a bad
feeling the way that the person running the jury room
was talking like, I got a bad feeling, and I
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had rookie meeting camp the next week. I'm not going
to miss that and some other important stuff meetings and
I'm not going to miss that. So I'm like, you
know what, I can either play today out and cross
my fingers or and I've been in this position before.
You actually get called into a jury room and you
got to go through the whole iDeer process on a
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Friday afternoon, and they jay run enough time. You got
to come back Monday, and then your whole next week
is up in the air. And I'm like, I can't
risk that I can't risk that. So I went in there.
I went up and I'm like, what should I do.
Here's my situation. I gotta be out of town on
next week and I'm not missing that. She's like, i'd
tap out, I'll reschedule you, and I went okay. So
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I tapped out and she handed me July twenty one,
and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Oh my Gord, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Thank you doing your civic duty.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Your civic okay.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Because this is not only the best podcast available, we're
the best citizens available as well, doing our civic duty
for Jason Gibbs. My name is Andrew Siciliano. Next week,
remember your attendance is Mandy
It's my six year you know, like I said, fifty
on the field. So guys look up to me, you know,
in this in this building, you know, whether I like
it or not. So I'm definitely embraced that role. Not
really always have, but it's nice time for, you know,
to make it definite and no question about it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Remember, friends, there is no off season, doesn't exist at all.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Football is kind of beer because it never went anywhere.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome to another edition of the best podcast available Ota
pre mandatory Mini Camp edition. My name is Andrews Ciciliano.
Back from vacation and back in it on the other
side of your screen or maybe in the other ear,
hopefully you're listening in stereo. Don't know how this actually
comes out. Is Jason Gibbs, tanned, rested, ready from gallivanting
(00:52):
around the Motherland, gallivanting around Italy?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Gibbe, It is good to see it.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It's a pleasure, my friend. We were in France. Were
you at the French Open?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I did.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's been a nice little run for you as well.
We've covered the continent.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yes, it was a great run.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Did Israel was in Tel Aviv for a few days
and then I went to France, and yes, I checked
that box on the French Open.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Wanted to do that.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was there day one, got a grounds pass, wandered around,
saw Tommy Paul his four setter. On the opening day
there role on Garols, had an amazing time, checked the box,
beautiful venue. Hope anyone and everyone can do it. And
then equally, if not more important, the next day went
to Normandy. Had always wanted to do that, and actually
you and I have talked about this plan to do
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it in the bye week after the Browns London game
this year. Yeah, there was no bye week, so I
kind of, you know, figured it out on the fly
and did Normandy. Memorial Day weekend did Normandy. So I
can't recommend that enough.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It is powerful.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
We say every year, you know, we thank every one
in uniform for their soccer, every man and woman for
their sacrifice, and we remember those who have given their
life in defense of this country. When you stand there
in Normandy at Omaha Beach and you see the American Cemetery,
you can stay there for hours and hours and hours
(02:17):
just reading the names. We took a different path here
than football. Bear with me, but you read every name there,
and you know every name. Yeah, I wasn't around in
the forties, but you know every name because you went
to school with somebody with that last name, or your
neighbor has that last name, and you know those stories.
And just imagine being twenty two years old. We've all
been there and this is what you decided to do.
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You were the greatest generation and you went to fight
evil and it is powerful and I cannot recommend it enough.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, I would love to go to Normandy. I'm a
World War Two buff. My grandfather fought and flew bombers
for the Air Force in World War Two. So definitely,
definitely a bucket list item. My daughter was lucky enough
to go a few years ago and pretty awesome. The
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pictures and the pictures don't do it justice.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And I know that.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So yeah, to be there at four o'clock at the
cemetery where they lower the flags and play taps, there's
pretty I don't know that I've ever experienced anything like that,
So do it. And you know what, Also, let's talk football,
So let's go. Let's get that out of the way.
This is the best podcast available, and let's try to
give you the best analysis available of OTAs. Reminding you
(03:40):
that OTAs are voluntary. It is part of the voluntary
NFL off season program, collectively bargained by the NFLPA with
the league to make this portion here voluntary. Next week,
it's mandatory. Next week, it is newsworthy if your favorite
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player is not there, but your favorite player will be
there because you're getting fined significantly fined finds that cannot
be rescinded.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So everybody will be there next week, So keeping that
in mind.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
And there are also players that were there for OTA's
that didn't do anything on the you like, for example,
Joe Potonio, who spoke this week at the Browns Charity
Golf tournament at Westwood Country Club. He spoke on Monday.
We'll get into his comments coming up shortly. He did
stuff really only inside, right, He was working at it inside.
He wasn't on the field, but he was there. But
players like Micah Parsons, for example in Dallas, he was
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kind of sort of there, but he wasn't on the field.
He also did some traveling, like maybe your favorite player
wearing number ninety five here did some traveling.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It is okay, okay, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
In a perfect world, would you like perfect attendance at
at OTAs. Yes, that goes without saying. But mandatory minichamp
and training camp are what is important. And that is
when attendance, I think you and I are on this
same page here truly does matter.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah one p I mean Greg Newsom was on Browns
Daily on Monday from the golf outing and he said,
you know, I had I had a commitment with my
with my baby daughter, and you know, my fiance in
Arizona last week. I couldn't be here for OTAs. But
he's here this week and he's back on the field.
But you know, and and it's it's the media's job
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to report on it, like who's there, who's not there,
But just make sure that the caveat is everybody knows
it's voluntary. Next Tuesday, when we hit the practice field
at about eleven thirty in the morning. Now, if you're
not on that field, I there will be questions. Now,
there could be guys still working inside rehabbing. I know
(05:46):
David Bell still coming back from an injury. But you know,
you're more than likely you're on the field. You're maybe
you're working off to the side, maybe you're on the
tour day berea. You're riding the bike and and everything
along those lines.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
You need to be in the building, and you need
to be in the building actually starting on Monday, because
the team meeting is at five point fifteen to kick
of the week.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, and those players about which you likely had consternation
about not attending OTAs, they will be in that team
meeting on Monday.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yep, I gam run to you.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
By the way, like I mentioned Michael Parsons, it's not
just him, Rashaun Slater, Chargers O lineman waiting for his
new contract. He wasn't at Charger OTAs. Puka Nakua had
a family outing Samoa, you know, a cool thing to do,
much like Greg Newsom wanted to be with the family,
had a commitment.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
He wasn't at some of the rams OTAs.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Michael Parsons, Travis Kelce was only on the field like
for a minute, right, he was mostly inside. I know, listen,
I also care. I also want to know which quarterback
looks better. I really do. But it is only as
we take this today June fifth. Okay, it is significant that,
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for example, in Wednesday's session, we're taping this Thursday. Yes,
Shador Sanders got some more reps in eleven. On eleven
in team stuff, the Browns are going to what's called
two spot, in which they're really because they have the
four quarterbacks they need to get work. They have two
sets of drills happening at the same time on different
fields or other parts of the same field because they
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need to get the quarterbacks work. I know that you
want to overanalyze the passing efficiency numbers and overanalyze whether
or not Caden Davis, speaking of the Chargers, got a
foot down of the back of the enzone on that
really nice ball in the red zone that Chador threw
on Wednesday. I stress to not over analyze it, but
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at the same time, I'm saying I'm excited and that
I care too. Both can be true. There is so
much more between now and Week one against the Bengals,
and I think Tommy Rees comments Wednesday, we're really telling
Mary Kay Cabot tip of the cap to her Hall
of Famer.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Mary Kay Cabot.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Asked, can you see a scenario in which any of
these four quarterbacks, the healthy ones not including DeShawn Here
still rehabing, can win this starting job?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And Tommy Ree said, yeah, absolutely, And.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Then as the scrum was breaking up, Tommy kind of said,
I mean to be a pretty sad answer if I
said no, right, And I think that's the way that
we have to frame all of this. This isn't real
football yet. Pads haven't come on yet. At a coach
years ago, tell me there weren't shorts. It doesn't matter
until you switch out of shorts. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, and I think you're getting work in. It's still
a lot of install you know, you're installing your offense,
you're installing your defense. There's not I mean, Jim Schwartz
said it best. You know, someone asked about Mason Graham
and Carson Swessinger, and there's not really I can't really,
he said, I don't really know how to tell you
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if they're good or not good right now or where
they're at. You know, we're doing a lot of classroom instruction.
We're watching some of their stuff when they're in one
on one drills, but or position like work. He's like,
I can do that, but like until we're actually tackling
and we're you know, eleven on eleven, line them up, helmets, pads,
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everything else, there's not really a way to know how
good or where the defense really is. Offensively, I mean
defensively in the secondary. They made some plays yesterday. Quarterbacks
looked okay at times. The defense also had came away
with I think four interceptions yesterday. So you get some positives,
you get some negatives. More importantly, you're actually seeing some
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football now over the last two weeks, which is fun
to watch in May.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was going to say, and Schwartz made the point
yesterday as well, because it kind of a themed this week,
and with the first time we had heard from him
SHORTZ since the season ended. I believe if memory serves
you know that obviously got to get back to the
defense we saw in twenty twenty three, the best defense
in the NFL. Even if it's not all the way
back to number one, somewhere the top ten would be nice,
and this whole team, this whole building would feel different.
Schwartz said, you need more I in t's and fewer PBUs.
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A lot of PBUs last year he had to turn
those into I iNTS, So for I iNTS on Wednesday
is certainly a step in the right direction. And he
also Jim Schwartz made the headline and this is the
headline to takeaway that everyone's going to run with is
that he said, I think Miles is going to have
the best year of his career. The exact quote is,
I really think Miles is going to have the best
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season of his career and has to write you know
what I mean? And I've told him this before. That's
what Spider Man. It's a spider Man quote. With great
power comes great responsibility. That with the big contract, with
the notoriety that came along with that, with the process
that it took to get him to that point. It's
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always pressure in this league, but probably a little bit
more so that brings out the best in players, and
I know that'll be the case with Miles.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Refreshing to hear him say that I don't like, and
I always have said this, I don't like the P word,
the pressure word when it comes to sports analysis, especially
in the NFL. For years doing sports talk radio, Gibbe,
you know, we get to a Friday show where we're
trying to pick the game, and you're always like, well,
so and so has more pressure on them this week,
and I'm like, come on, guys, this is a league
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in a business that is built on a foundation of pressure.
No one gets to this point in their career or
playing the National Football League unless you have faced pressure
all along the way. And my point being, it's it's
pretty equal, right, Monday is gonna suck for the team
that lost and the players that lost, regardless. So to
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try to pick a game by saying, well, there's more
pressure on this team, I never bought into that. I
think there's pressure on all of us. There's pressure on you,
this pressure on me, pressure on every one of the building.
This is the biggest stage in American sports performed today, right.
But I do think at the same time, there's something
refreshing to hear Jim Schwartz say, yeah, hey, you know what,
not only did he sign the contract, it took a
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lot to get there, he's paid a lot of money
and we expect a lot of them. But you know what,
he has always done this, he has meeting, he has
always performed, so I expect him to do it again.
And I think he's gonna have his best year ever.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If I'm Jim Schwartz, that's what I have to go
off of. I mean, he's you know, Miles has been
around a couple times throughout the offseason. But he hasn't
been here a whole lot. He's been traveling. He has
every right.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
To do that. He's back in the USA, I can
tell you that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
But I mean you've seen the workout videos. I mean
he's working out. He's working out with Michael Parsons a
little bit, you know. I mean that's he's worked out.
He's always kept him self in good shape. Fully expect
next week when we see him on the field here
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at Cross Country Mortgage Campus, that he will be his
usual disruptive self.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
And let's make something clear here about how Miles travels.
He's not traveling with just a carry on and you know,
hotels tonight on his phone trying to figure out where
he's going to put his head down tonight. He is
traveling with a workout team. He doesn't travel solo. So
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wherever in the world you may find him on Instagram,
you better believe that that day of travel included his
team and a professional workout. Now, I'm being dead serious.
That's how he rolls. That's also what that contract affords you.
So that is how he rolls, and I have no
doubt that he will roll in ready a couple of
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other things. Aside from what Jim Schwartz said, I want
to get back to what Joel Buttonio said on Monday,
and I think I think those might have been the
most significant comments to come out of any microphone this week,
whether they'd be in Bria or at Westwood Country Club.
I thought what Joel said about the offense finally kind
of saying out loud and confirming what we all knew.
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But what I think Kevin and Tommy Reese had been
reluctant to really say, oh yeah, we're rolling it back
out loud, because Kevin always says, and this is true,
you want to move the offense forward, not moving back.
But what Potonio said about how this offense is going
to look, I think warmed a lot of people's hearts,
myself included. And what he basically said is that with
Mike Blumgren taken over as the offensive line coach, which
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he said was a huge reason he came back, Potonio
said and didn't retire, that we are getting back to
run of the football. He said, not only wide zone,
the power and gap scheme as well. You want to
go back to the old Stanford days where with Mike Blungren,
they ran the ball on David Shawn Jim Harbaugh eighteen
nineteen times in a row. I don't know if we're
going to do that, but Potonio said, they're showing David
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Castro caught ups in meetings, right, So that's David de Castro,
NOTU with the Steelers, but with Stanford. He said, they've
got to bring the toughness back. He said Bloomgren has
done that certainly. And he said Joel's words that they
need an O line coach who is a bleep jerk
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another four letter word that begins with a D. And
Joel said, I'm sorry, and he said it and then
everyone laughed. And it's a friendly reminder not to not
to rip any coach that was here last year. But
it's three O line coaches now in three years. And
Mike Blumgren is not Bill Callahan, but he certainly seems
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to be different than the vibe you had last year
with Andy Dickerson and Dellahan treed too exactly, and you
need to bring that back. And Buttonio also made the
point that, hey, the defense took a step backwards last year,
but we can't be keeping the defense on the field
for seventy plays a game. We need to control the ball.
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I know it's twenty twenty five. I got to throw
the ball too, But run of the football. Controlling the
ball it is refreshing to me and to Wyatt Teller
and to Ethan Posk in this entire room. And it's
going gibbe to help the defense.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
So offense struggled to score points last year. They were
in a game most in the NFL. You're not going
to win many games. We prove that you win three
to fourteen scoring eighteen points a game. If you're going
to be better offensively, you obviously have to score more,
but you also have to give your defense the chance
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to get some rest.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
How do you do that?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
All control smart plays, passing plays that are smart. Don't
take risks, take risk, I guess when you have to.
But otherwise play smart, tough and accountable. And we're getting
back to the basics for Kevin Stefanski and company.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
And listen, you do that, you run the football, You
make that play action game that much more effective for
a rookie quarterback. If it is a rookie quarterback, set
it up to take those shots. Now it goes hand
in hand. If that rookie quarterback is having trouble delivering
the football down the field, then the run game may
not be as effective. But go back to twenty twenty
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three if it is Joe Flacco. But just remember how
that offense looked. The play action, those deep shots do
Amari Cooper, they were there because you could still effectively
run the football and it goes hand in hand. It's
complimentary football, right. It's refreshing to kind of to feel
that even in June, you're heading.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Back in that direction.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah, And going back to Greg newsom on with the
Browns Daily Crew on Monday at the golf outing at
the Browns Foundation twenty fifth Annual, it's he's like, there's
a difference from a year ago, Like maybe it's we
know we had an upper tunity last year and it
kind of slipped and fell apart al on us because
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everything this year seems to be amped up, ramped up
practices seem to be a little more, a little more upbeat,
maybe even a little more grueling on the body for
this time of year. I mean, I'm not going to
say physical, because you're not tackling, you're not having that.
But I think I think this organization and they've made
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some updates on the sports performance and the dietitian side
and everything. I think they're challenging these players a lot
more here this offseason, which I think is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And two spot can do that right, simultaneous drills to
benefit a quarterback competition can do that.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
More work. But we have to be careful.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
You can't overwork guys because that is the danger. As
you try to get the quarterbacks more work, you're overworking the.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Rest of the roster. They're going to be smart with that.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
But something to keep in mind and remember, and I've
said this repeatedly, you have the two joint practices.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
The Panthers and the.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Eagles also forgot this one. All three preseason games will
be simulcast live on NFL Network. So for those of us,
for those of you rather who are not in Northeast Ohio,
who are not able to watch the Browns preseason games
live in Cleveland or anywhere else throughout Ohio, they will.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Be simulcast on NFL Network.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
So there's that, all three, including the home game, the
only home game of the preseason, the third and final
one against the Rams, one final thing I want to
get in here about the offensive line. Duwan Jones spoke
on Wednesday. He's progressing well. He's on the field, which
is certainly positive. Obviously after his broken ankle Week eleven
ended his season in New Orleans. Remember he was playing
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left tackle that day. They had moved him over to
left tackle with all the injuries. He quitted himself fairly
well that it was telling, and I appreciate Dewan's honesty
that he said that. He told Andrew Barry, he told
Kevin that he preferred not to play left tackle. He's
more comfortable on the right side. He is right handed.
His right handed punch is better than his left handed punch,
and that's what he's always played. That's where he feels
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at home. But that he is open to the challenge.
He is down to do it and he's gonna give
it his best. Dawan Jones is your left tackle. And
in essence, the Browns have two right tackles they do
They're gonna put one of them at left tackle, and
you hope Dewan can do it. He's a power player
left side's a little bit more of a finesse as
he put it. Position he's watching Trent Brown, also a
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big man who's played left and made that transition. He's
watching Tristan Wurfs a little bit as well. He's trying
to get some pointers and he is working on it.
But he admits that he is a work in progress
at the position, but also with his physique. He's taken off,
he said, about twenty pounds. Well, he's taken off a
lot of fat and added a lot of muscle, but
he's weighing the same. He's still in the neighborhood of
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three seventy three seventy five give, but he said he's
turned some of that fat into muscle.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I love Big Fanos.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I want to him succeed as much as anybody on
this football team. His heart is as big as his
three hundred and seventy five pound frame. I mean, I
love him. He's a super good guy. I think he's
his head's in the right place. I think he's got
some structure here. This offseason, he seemed really dedicated. Joel
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Bottonio said it the other day that he's been in
the building most of the offseason. He's been here, he
hasn't missed off season workouts. He's dedicated and committed to
making this change. Hey, Danus, reach out to Joe Thomas.
H I know you're watching Tristan Wurfs. I know you're watching.
Talk to the Hoff, get the Huff, find out the
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process because Hoff had a whole notebook on every defensive
lineman he was going up against preparation, watching tape. Pick
his brain. He is a resource. He's a big fan
of yours. That's the only thing I would say. Reach
out to Joe Thomas.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
He has time.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
I think he I don't know if he's back from
the galapgos and writing sea turtles.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
But I don't know what's going to help. He's happy
to help.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
And I And speaking of reaching out to Joe Thomas
for help, I had a night in Munich a few
weeks ago, like on a layover at a fifteen hour
layover in Munich, had to change planes, different different tickets,
long story. Hit up the Hoff. I'm like, Joe, I
got one night in Munich, Buddy, what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Guy?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
And you made your.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Flight seven pages of notes. He's it's detail orientages.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
He's oriented like you're looking at and you're like this
is ai. You're like, no, it's not Ai, because and
one of them is like, and if you go to
this beer hall, ask for my buddy Christian, we go
hunting and you need to get this, and like, this
is not Ai, this is not tripped by this is
not him scraping Yelp reviews. This is a detailed Joe
Thomas eating and drinking plan the expectations.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yes, he's the best, and you made it to the plane.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I'm not so sure that one is making it to
the plane with the number of libations.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You may or may not, although that is another story.
I won't bor you. Actually, I will bore you on
the way.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So when you land in Munich, you take the train
downtown and on the platform they have the train, the.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Ticket, the ticket machines.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Right, So you take the escalator down here on the
platform and then here there are all the ticket machines.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
All right, buy your ticket. Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
So I bought my ticket seventeen euros, right, like twenty bucks.
You get on the train, you go downtown. No one
check my ticket, and when you get off the train
there's no machine to swipe through, no gateway to go through.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
My Okay, but I bought my ticket right. You didn't
know that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
So on the way out in the morning, to leave
after a night out of Joe Thomas recommendations, I get
down to the platform. Now in the city, there are
no ticket machines. Like, what is going on here? There's
no machine. I'm wandering the platform, no machine, no machine.
Here's the train. Doors are open, bell is sounding, train's
about to go. I got to get to the airport.
I'm like, what am I doing here?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
No one's like, maybe back to the city or back
to the airport. You don't need the ticket, right, Maybe
that's why. Anyway, so I jump on the train. We
are twenty seconds from the airport. No one had asked
for a ticket. No conductor all of a sudden out
of nowhere, as if conjured.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Up by other That's how they That's how I ran
into him. In Italy. Here's the conductor ticket. I'm like,
oh boy.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I'm like, well, I left it in my hotel room,
which is a true story. I had the other ticket
that no one ever took on my night stand.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
I forgot that.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Whatever, it's an old ticket, and I'm like, can I
just pay you now? Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yes, you may like great, take my phone out. He
takes a little thing out. I tapi prints en, hands
it to me and walks away. I'm like, okay, cool,
I look at it. What do you think that ticket
costs on the train? Instead of seventeen, you're ninety euros.
It's a sixty euro train ticket. They're finding you.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, basically, here's your fifty dollars. Fine, you enjoyed that?
Like I could have taken a cab.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, anyway, I digress. What's that lesson learned? You got
through it, you got to the airport. It's all right,
all right, just a few extra dollars.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Moving on.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It is hard to believe that this is year five
for our guest on on BPA the best podcast available,
Grant Delpit.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Where do the years go? Man? Year five? Dude?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Is it year five?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Hold on six? Wait a minute, I'm looking this sixth
those you're five? Okay?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well count the injury year? Yeah, you're five on the field,
how about that? Okay, so year six? Then I got
it wrong. It's your five slash six? Where where did
the time go?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Time waste for no man? You know, as we see
you know, it flies by. So just trying to make
an impact while I can man and lead this team.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Before we talk about the football, talk about life, talk
about the off season. Going through your I g h
horror Juku Street Tokyo in March.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
That look cool.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, it's a great place, Tokyo, very very nice people,
very orderly. Got to travel around a little bit while
I can. So it's important to do that. Those those
things for me, you know, I like, I like doing
that while while I can.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
You know, hey man, you gotta live your life. I'm
doing I'm doing Tokyo. Actually I'm doing Mount Fuji in July.
So between like mini camp and training camp. Any you
got any tips, you got any restaurant recommendations, What should
I do?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
See? I mean, I didn't do anything outside of the city,
but hey man, them local le Roman stops like it's
top tier. Now I'm looking forward to the vintage you know,
sushi and the real sashimi and stuff like that. Man,
that's type of food I like though, So I don't
know if it's for.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
You, No, it is for me. That's exactly what I like.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I was there years and years and years ago and
I did hard Juku Street like on a Sunday like you,
and it was fantastic. I want to go back and
do that. I don't like the rotating sushi though. Did
you go to one of those where like it's moving,
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I didn't like that.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yes, that's given like conveyor you know, vending machine.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, I don't like the conveyor belt conveyor belt sushi.
I can live with that. I can live with that.
Let's get to the football.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Everyone says ots feel a little bit different, like everything
like in general feels different this year. A little more intensity,
a little more focused. Do you feel that as well?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I think that that was a big emphasis coming in.
Maybe you know, it was a little bit too lax
last year. Maybe we need to go a little harder
this year. So if it's any question about it, I
think it's you know, we need to attack it at
a at a at a higher rate, higher speed every day.
You know. Obviously it wasn't good enough last year. So
something needs to change, and it starts with our effort
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for real. So that's what we're focusing on right now.
Control that we control.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
We can't do too much physical, uh, you know, violence
and stuff like that, So just make sure our tempo
is as up as it can be, you.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Know, And that's what I keep reminding people it's June,
so like, don't jump to big conclusions.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It's June.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
It does ramp up though next week for mandatory Mini Camp.
Grant explain to the fans the difference in intensity, and
I realize it's still going to be June next week
between OTAs and mandatory Mini camp.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, I mean, mandatory Mini Camp is basically more what
you're gonna see real high you know, competitive levels of
one on one's, you know, real real work. You know
right now, it's work, but it's it's fine tuning stuff.
And Mini camp you actually get to see a lot
more competitive physical nature of what we do. So that's
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the opportunity. You get to see me get on the
quarterbacks a lot more.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Or you're gonna get out the quarterback a lot more.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, you know, you know I gotta lead the way.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You gotta lead the way. Let's talk about the leadership thing.
Your coach at from Bondo was on the radio with
Nathan and Bo yesterday and he kind of pulled the
curtain back and talked about the conversations he's had with
you about leadership here in year five, year six, call
it whatever you want, and how he sees you on camera,
he sees you with the media, how comfortable you are
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in this kind of setting, and that he wants that
leadership to take the next step this year.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
What does that look like for you?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
What I think? Sometimes I'm real hard on myself. So
you know, obviously I didn't have a great year last year.
I mean, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I did
to some people, but I didn't get the ball enough.
It's all about getting that ball in this league and
making a difference in getting the ball back for offense.
So I gotta do a better job of that. But
you know, it's my sixth year, you know, like I said,
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fifty on the field. So guys look up to me,
you know, in this in this in this building. You know,
whether I like it or not. So I'm definitely embraced
that role, not really always have, but it's not time for,
you know, to make it definite and no question about it.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
So you're the veteran now in the room. I mean
it's rocket.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
You got the two veterans coming in free agent and
CAZy and Jenkins. But not calling you an old man.
You're the big ten US guy. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
In the room.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, yeah, let's let's let's do this, because it's like
I had somebody call me unk the other day and
it's like, I'm not I'm not that, Like it's not
it's not that yet. Just go through the age. Let's
just go through the age, like, okay, twenty one to
twenty twenty to twenty four, it's like little little bro.
Like it's like, man, twenty twenty three, it's like young
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young buck, you know, twenty four to twenty eight, twenty nine,
big bro twenty five. We're gonna skip twenty four because
that's just a random age. Twenty five to twenty nine,
big bro thirty Okay, like in league terms, you're og
at that point. Unk. Don't call me O g unk
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right now, I'm big bro.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Still, you're gonna be twenty seven in the September, I know.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, man, you know it's getting.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
So then what is Flacco?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Uh, he's just the one off I don't know what he.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Is, not Grandpa, Yeah, Flaco is like.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I won't call him Grandpa, I'll just call him experience.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, Well let's get to the quarterback thing, because you
did play two games with Joe back in twenty three
everyone got so excited obviously. I mean you should see
social media. I know you did the day that he signed,
and then we got to the draft and then like, Grant,
I know how much my phone is blowing up. I
just took a trip. I know how much people are
(32:00):
stopping me asking me about the quarterback situation, like what
is your phone?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Like, what's it like for you.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Going to the grocery store when it's the only thing
anybody wants to talk about.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Like I said, I said, I don't get paid to
make those decisions.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
No, I'm not saying making the decision.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm just saying, you know, it's the only thing anybody
wants to talk.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
About, exactly. Like and at the end of the day,
he asked me, you know, I'm like, yo, I give
everybody the same answer. I don't make these decisions, you know,
like you could I just let them live in fantasyland
because they think they know it, you know, I just
you know, try to just go on, Yeah, whatever you
think is right, you know. So we're gonna see what
(32:41):
it is. But like, at the end of the day,
it's gonna be a competition. I guess, you know, I
don't make those decisions.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
What was your reaction on draft day? Tell the truth,
Tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I really didn't, you know, Like I knew that at
the end of the day we was gonna get a
great player, So I didn't even really wasn't that I
didn't watch it. I was waiting on my phone to
just to see the news. Guy know, I was gonna
be like overly into it, So I'm just like, let
me just see who we get. Yeah, we got a good,
great piece of that deteching room.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yep. And then day two got some weapon.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Days too, well, yeah, we definitely got some weapons. How
I leave out day two? I went Day two, So
that's my bet. I'm thinking about day one. So but
that's the point is that's the way to tie it in.
Day two is the foundation of your football team. Generally speaking,
people put so much seriously, people put so much focus
on day one. Right, that's the big show, right, that's
the shiny object, that's the big deal about Day one.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Come on, But you know what.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I'm saying, Day two and good football teams are built
on day two. That's the way I look at it, exactly.
You can't have a good football team. You look at
the teams that go deep in the postseason. They're built
on day two. Just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
I'm talking about the offense in general.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I thought Joe Buttonio said out loud with a lot
of people knew and internally and a lot of the
fans wanted as well. When this week he said that
the offense, the install at least feels a lot like
twenty twenty and twenty twenty one right wide zone and
power and just getting back to run of the football,
getting back to what the core the identity is. But
he also made the point grant that the offense has
(34:17):
to help you guys out right. So being on the
field for seventy snaps, you talked about turnovers. You're not
getting turnovers around the field for seventy sixty seventy snaps, right,
That's when you guys get worn down. That's when you
give up the explosives. And he talked about how to
get back to winning football. They have to run the ball,
but they have to give you guys on that side
(34:40):
of the ball a little bit of help.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Yeah, I mean, that's one hundred percent agreeable.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I was to say, let's talk about offense, and I
was gonna say I play defense. So I can't talk
about that, but going off that, I think that, you know,
I know, you can't have a great defense without a
without an offense. You know, you can't have great offense
without a defense. So you know, as we've seen last year,
it was just too you know, too much, too swede,
(35:08):
you know, too too up and down on both sides.
So we got to have a consistency in order to
be you know, good on both sides.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You mentioned the turnovers, schwarts. You mentioned the turnovers again yesterday.
How do you force more turnovers and still play fundamental football?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I don't know. I think it's a mindset of mentality,
you know. Uh, you know, even if it comes to
punching the ball, like you have to have a predetermined
mindset of I'm not just gonna make this tackle, I'm
gonna you know, punch the ball up, you know, and
capitalizing on plays. I even dropped a pick last year.
I think it was my first of my career. Second,
I don't know, I don't know how many drop picks
(35:50):
I have, but I haven't had a lot. So, you know,
just capitalizing on those plays, man, is the biggest thing,
because you don't never know when they're gonna come back.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Hey, but the good player. Remember the places you don't make,
not the plays you do make. Right, Yeah, yeah, I
guess so seriously. I mean it's it's six to that. Hey.
I know we do totally different things.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
But when I drive home on Sunday, I think about
the calls that could have gone better as opposed to
the calls that went great. Because you're not going to
get better if you only look at your highlights. Yeah, right, exactly,
that's why you exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
But then again, you got to move on. That was
one day, Today's Tuesday, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Totally absolutely, and you move on and then you get
another shot coming up on on Sunday, and you get
another shot at some time off as well. Let's uh,
last thing, Grant looking past next week. I know you
got to live live in the moment, but you have
anything good plan for that month off?
Speaker 1 (36:46):
No? I mean, I'm actually at a home base in
Dallas now. I just bought my first, you know, real house, Congress,
so I'm looking forward to getting that together, sailing down. So,
but the furnishing part is crazy. I ain't lie. I'm
not looking forward to that. But dude, you said I
might be twenty seven, I gotta start.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Grown up stuff. But full disclosure, full disclosure.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
If you saw what the rest of this room look
like right now, I have been in this house for
eight years. I don't know that I still have all
that furniture stuff done. Yeah, well we could do that, Okay,
find someone who's going to do that for you, because
I still haven't found that.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, grant, great, great stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I appreciate you coming on, enjoy the last week of
mandatory work. I'll see you in Borea next week and
looking forward to seeing you all back.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
On the field. All right, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Appreciate it, all right, So let's look ahead to next week.
School is almost out for summer. There are three more
days mandatory mandatory MIDI caamp coming up on the tenth,
of the eleventh and the twelfth, give me as you noted, Monday,
team meeting on the ninth, and then you're on the
field those three days. I want to warran people right now.
It may only be two days. Most teams don't do
(38:05):
anything on Thursday. The coach in this case, Kevin Stefanski,
may very well come to the podium after Wednesday's practice
and say, hey, we're gonna go to a team golf
outing or top golf, or do something in the community
or who knows. On Thursday, most coaches do that and
then it is truly schools out for summer. But I
(38:25):
will say this, everything I said at the beginning of
this episode about not reading too much in to the
quarterback numbers and how they look, I'm gonna start to
throw that out next week because I think next week
actually does matter, and I think next week is a
benchmark on which you can plan training camp. Tommy Reese
was asked during OTA's do you have a plan? I
(38:46):
see what you're doing now, but do you have a
plan for the quarterbacks and the reps come training camp?
And he says, oh, it's a work in progress. I
think some of those decisions give a may factor on
how these guys look this.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Week at I think this starts to set what your
depth chart. Depth chart used that looks like the first
day of training camp in terms of who's getting the reps,
because now you're you know, now you're working on who's
getting the most reps, and now you have a first
(39:18):
team that's getting the majority, a second team that's getting
X number, a third team that might get a series
and a fourth team that might get a couple plays
this set. Who's the rotation, what's the rotation at running
back going to look like? What who's gonna play wide receiver?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
What does Deontay Johnson look like?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Because that was I don't call it a bally Hood signing,
but it was a curious one. A couple of weeks ago.
He has not been there for atas, so it's got
it's mandatory. Now you gotta be there.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Yeah, defensive ends, You've got a loaded defensive end room.
What's that rotation look like? You know who who's in
on the first team reps? Who's ending on the second
team reps?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
You know?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
And do those change throughout? Like next week we start
to see, Okay, this is what it's probably gonna look
like when they report to training camp in July or
this is kind of determining what training camp will at
least start off looking like.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
And also next week you're going to have a feel
for the calendar in training camp as well. We still
don't have and they're trickling out from other teams the
official training camp map. I'm gonna guess first work on
the field is going to be July twenty sixth, that Saturday.
Don't quote me on it, but somewhere in that vicinity
with players trickling in the week of the twenty first,
(40:44):
obviously rookies first, and that eventually veterans in that first
full week of practice would be the week of the
twenty eighth. Again, don't count me, but that's just how
they or don't quote me, that's just how the calendar
correct generally works. And then we'll have everything set in
stone there with the joint practices with the Eagles and
with the Panthers, and buckle up, baby, football is officially back.
(41:06):
We'll have your your walking papers if you will, for
the rest of your summer next week, including jury duty
currently schedule for the week of the twenty first for
this guy.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Wow, don't worry. We're working on it.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Bishop had jury duty. We had to work through that.
You have jury What is going on? They know what
I'd like to think, they know who you are.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Okay, So back backstory, real quick, very quickly. I promise
I had jury duty the week before rookie.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Minni caamp Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
And how they work it is you you have to
go online the night before and they tell you if
we need a jury the next day, right, you know
it works, right.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
So nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Nothing, All of a sudden, they call me it on Friday, right,
And if they call you it on Friday, You're like, Okay,
all I got to do is get through today and
then my week is over. But at the same time,
you're like, well, if I'm calling you in on a Friday,
they may actually need a jury, right. So I'm in
there and I'm in there, and I'm in there and
it's like noon, and I'm like, I got a bad
feeling the way that the person running the jury room
was talking like, I got a bad feeling, and I
(42:15):
had rookie meeting camp the next week. I'm not going
to miss that and some other important stuff meetings and
I'm not going to miss that. So I'm like, you
know what, I can either play today out and cross
my fingers or and I've been in this position before.
You actually get called into a jury room and you
got to go through the whole iDeer process on a
(42:35):
Friday afternoon, and they jay run enough time. You got
to come back Monday, and then your whole next week
is up in the air. And I'm like, I can't
risk that I can't risk that. So I went in there.
I went up and I'm like, what should I do.
Here's my situation. I gotta be out of town on
next week and I'm not missing that. She's like, i'd
tap out, I'll reschedule you, and I went okay. So
(42:57):
I tapped out and she handed me July twenty one,
and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Oh my Gord, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Thank you doing your civic duty.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Your civic okay.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Because this is not only the best podcast available, we're
the best citizens available as well, doing our civic duty
for Jason Gibbs. My name is Andrew Siciliano. Next week,
remember your attendance is Mandy
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