Chris Rose Previews Browns Training Camp - Cleveland Browns Daily - 7.22.25 - Cleveland Browns Podcast Network

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
I will still live on a Tuesday edition at Cleveland
Browns Daily.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I am merely Bo. He is the great z And
away we go. The boys are back in town. They're here, baby,
The boys are back in town.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's a nice it's a nicer rendition for you to
drop on Tuesday in July.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Felt good, felt good? Not gonna lae?

Speaker 5 (01:10):
What is what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (01:11):
Move?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
What is where? What movie is that in? The Boys
are back in town? It feels like should be a
lot of things.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
It feels like everything from the eighties, like every time,
like there are a lot of Beverly Hills, Cop forty
eight hours, Weapon, Yeah, used in a lot of that.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
I feel like anything that's a buddy movie, which was
ninety percent of the action movies in that genre.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It feels like anytime sports He's about to start.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, the boy is back
in town.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Checked up by the way I was doing this morning,
Luca was woke up, m dropped the bomb up besides legs,
oh just got loose, nuked it. And then after that
was like so happy and laughing and smiling. It was
so cute and he was great. And then like a

(01:58):
few minutes later it was walking around with him and
he was being a little fussy and I kind of
started to cry, and I said it, I'll give him
something to cry about, because my dad he said, you
want to cry, I'll give.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
You something to cry out.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah. That's a big line. Yeah, that's a big line.
So I felt that felt good. It felt good saying
that their generation was big too. Cry I'll give you something.
I'll give you something to cry about. And that's my
like old timey voice.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Apparently the Boys are back in town by Thinn Lizzie Okay,
most notably in forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Gosh, I nailed it, nailed it.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Yeah. Also the Expendables Night's Tale that's when they come
back from the joust. Yeah, sure sure and Detroit Rock City.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Okay, forty eight hours, pretty good job.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Expendables is actually I feel like that's a movie that
doesn't get enough. I've never seen it. Discussion.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
It's like everybody you want I know, and it feels
like it is probably everything that I would want.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
They're fine. I think the boys would like him. How
many they do? Two?

Speaker 5 (03:03):
No one? Jmax says four or five?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Really, they ran it back a lot. Give me premise,
Give me premise.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Everybody who's ever in an action movie they go fight
bad dudes old together?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
They all fighting together together?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? Are there some? There are four of them.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Is there an instance where I don't know if you
and I are going to get along, we might butt
heads a little bit. Yes, So someone's got to be
the leader of this operation.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
Oh yeah, that happens throughout.

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Always needs to have that conflict, some internal conflict of like,
damn it, I don't like you, but I need you.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
You need that. The salone who says, you know, actually
I uh, I am the one who's uh. I directed
this and I also put a lot of money in it.
And that's why I'm in the front of the poster
when you see it. That's how he does it.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
I have watched a few episodes of Tulsa King in
the last couple of weeks. Yeah, good, which is fun,
really fun when there's an episode early on where he
delivers like his age and you go, yeah, I guess
he has.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
To be all right?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Are you aware of who's who all is in it?
All right?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
If I were doing you said it's ever, I know
Stallone's in it?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I would assume that if this is what we're going for,
that Adolph Lundgren would be in it.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
You got a Dolph lundred Dolph Ye from that? John?

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Do you get a am I getting a Schwarzenegger? Or
is that just too big? He is in the trailer?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
He was in it? Wasn't he in the first one?

Speaker 6 (04:42):
I know?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
You have a Jason Statham, you have a Jet Lee? Okay,
you get a Coture, you get a Stone Cold, Steve Austin, Terry.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Crews Okay, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's Van Damn in it. The big stars are Stallone, Stathum,
and jet Lee. Are that are the top three? Bruce
will that's all done? Bruce willis, Oh, jeez, Terry crew Stone,
Colt ce Vast and Randy Koacher, Dolph Bunny and jet Lee,
Jason Satan, Sylvester.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Arnold is in the first one.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Arnold. I think it's a cameo. He's not part of
the brawling. So the premise is that a CIA agent
hires a team of mercenaries to eliminate a Latin dictator
and a renegade CIA agent. So there, it's all you need.
It's all you need.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
You give me renegade government former government employee wins. Yeah,
that's gonna win every time.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Latin dictator.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah, anytime you have a situation where you got a
guy who goes a little bit further than the law,
Like there's the law. I go a little further than that.
So where the law stops, that's where I get going. Yes,
I remember, I like those type of it, but it's
like uncredited. It's like an uncredited cameo. Uncredited cameo Arnold.
Shot taker is trench mouser, trench mauser. Yeah, when they

(06:01):
sat around, you know what are we gonna call him?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
How about trench mountains. John Claude van Dam was personally
offered a role by Salon, but turned it down because
he felt there was no substance or development to the characters.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
Stop it Slone said that guy he was in sudden death.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
A few other ones too.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Come on Slone said, and I quote that Van dam
told him he should be trying to save people in
South Central. At the premiere of the film, Saloone claimed
to have been speaking of Van dam or the phone
said I told you, to which Van Damn occurred an
express regret over not participating. Van dam would later appear
as the main antagonist Jean Vilaine in the film.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Sequel, Oh Okay, so they did get him. I bet
you they didn't get Sagal because I think he's just
with Putin. I don't think he's he is.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I think he is. I think he's just with Putin.
It comes around. Steven Sagal was asked to make a cameo,
but turned down the offer due to negative experience. As
producer Avi Lerner the role of Hail Caesar, great name,
that's literally the name I was supposed to be for
Wesley Snipes. He turned it down because of his tax
issues and couldn't leave the US without the courts approval.
Then it was rewritten for Forrest Whitaker due to a

(07:08):
scheduling conflict. He was replaced by fifty Cent before the
part of Pale Caasar finally went to former NFL player
Terry Crews. Wow, that snipes and fifty cent that would
be in the third and fourth movies, respectively. De Niro, Pacino,
Ben Kingsley, and Rayleiota were all considered for the role
of James Monroe before Stallone's The Specials. Coastar Eric Roberts
was eventually cast in the role Eric Roberts.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
He can be bad, of course again. Yeah, you saw
him the Specialist, remember.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That can be he can be bad.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
I think that which is said. I mean that that
whole thing is it's tough, tough, go tough, go with
that one. Yeah. Stallone or Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I'm a schwartz I'm an Arnold guy too, and I
love Stallone. I love First Blood, I love the Rambos.
But I you're getting Predator, Commando Conan, the running Man.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I think it's Schartzenegger too and is really good.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Though. You take any character of Stallon's and it was Brambo,
I would be I think would be the obvious one.
And you throw him into a pit with Arnold and
Conan when he's got those things on, Yeah, and he's
in then he's as a gladiator. Forget it.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
For Ghost, Yeah, I think yeah. And also just the
sheer size of Arnold versus slies quite a bit in
Arnold's favor too, right, he was mister.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Olympia is quite I don't think he's all that tall,
but yes, I think.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Nobody was mister Olympia like he was. I mean, like
there was a this wasn't a situation where stallone looked
one way at Rocky and then comes back for like
Rocky four and looks like a tank. I mean that's
what in the mid eighties, Like sure he found he found?
Uh what was who's your buddy in Balco? Balco folks,
they figure they got him first. Yeah, your buddies, by

(08:48):
the way, just called your buddies just because you're both
Barry Bonds.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I mean I wasn't even Barry Bonds guy. By the way.
Instagram hit me up with an unbelievable arm Old shirt
that I had to buy because they just knew it.
Which one I'm see if I can find it for you.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
It's just it's so good his docks. They both did
docs sly. I watched the Slide Doc and the Arnold Doc.
The Arnold doc is he is Slide Doc's good the
Arnold doc is insanely it's another level.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
It really is. Yeah, it's just like that, but I
got it. Oh kind of light where it's just the
logo because it's kind of a cool logo.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
It is very cool.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, those two were both fun. I watched those
a ton as a kid. They were on a lot.
We had a VHS with those two on. I remember
even the moment thinking Olivia Deabo seems very young.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
She was.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
And we did the research on it.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's not great, not great, not great at all. The
wars not great, not great.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Hey, we've got I don't know how Oh, boys are
back in town. That's how we got down this road.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
They're back.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Veterans reported today they will be They have to be
in by two o'clock. Conditioning is set for three first
full squad practice tomorrow at four to twenty five. Twenty
six of the thirty two NFL teams report to camp today.
By tomorrow, the last two teams will reported, the Falcons
and the Steelers. Of course, some have already reported for
Hall of Fame game and so forth. And so that's
where you are. We're back.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
The NFL is back.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Veterans have reported there you're gonna start to see availabilities,
You're gonna see all the videos of guys walking into
facilities and away we go.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It seems early to me.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
But I don't know if it is any different than
it was last year or not. Feel but it feels
like it. I don't know if the calendar is just
weird or what I think it might be. I think
this is a weird calendar because Labor Day. Is it
even in September or is it like September one or two?

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It is it is? The it is?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Is it September one? Yes, so that's what it is.
Because yeah, because like Ohio State places Texas on August thirtieth, I.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Think, yeah, that's what it is. Normally we're one more week.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, Normally Labor Day is like September sixth fifth, So
now it's four or five days.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So usually the season starts. Usually the openers kind of
around the like eighth, ninth, Yeah, Thursday, yeastead worst opening
on the seventh.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yea, it's a week so it's a it's a week early.
It's five days early, is what it amounts to. So
our guys will get in here and away we go.
There's about a million things that are gonna be topics
of conversation. It's all gonna center primarily here on the quarterbacks.
Around the league. It'll be who is reporting who is not.
Cincinnati neither their defensive ends reported. Not a surprise in
Florida on either of those. Rey Hendrickson and Florida cruising around.

(11:26):
I kind of think we're kind of at this point where,
like for me with veterans and trying to figure out
are they gonna report, are they gonna get their money
or not? Right now, this is not a thing, you know,
like the Hendrickson thing will become a thing if he's
not there by the middle of August.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I do think that this is going to be a thing.
I think.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I think it'll be done by I think.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
He'll be here. You think he'll be a Bengal be Henderson.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, I think he'll be a Bengal And I think
he'll be here for the opener playing really.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I do. They're gonna pay him forty two million
a year.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
No, I think they're gonna pay him less than that.
I also think, like I mean, they put him in
the market and there wasn't a market to want to
pay him that so they said, if you can find
a trade, fine one, I think he'll be back.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I do. I think they'll get it.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I think they'll get him close to the forty number
on a guarantee, on a short deal. I think it
will be mostly what they want, less of what he wants.
But I do think that I think they'll get it done.
Mike Brown is pretty confident yesterday that they'd get it done.
He wasn't really worried about it. So, I mean that
was all over turtle soup. I assume that it gets done.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean, it doesn't seem like from maybe that's wishful thinking.
Trey Hendricks's side doesn't certainly seem like it's going to
be done anytime soon.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
No, but they're negotiating. Now, that's kind of where you're at.
But yeah, I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I don't know if there's a market, like.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Who does it make more sense to though than them
than the Bengals, Like they have to have Their defense
is going to be awful.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't think it's gonna be good anyway.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
No, but if you have two defensive ends who can
get out for it, maybe you can create If Shamar
Stewart if they wants to get him into camp, that's
a that's a much more acrimonious set up there. But
what they need is what they need is two or
three plays a game that are disruptive from a defensive
end so that Burrow can try to outscore you thirty

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five thirty one. So they have to have it. They
don't have it anywhere else. They have a single playmaker
on that defense outside of Henderson A right.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
So there are two teams on my mind that immediately
I said, these feel like the right places, and the
first was the Lions.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, I mean, and they were a team that when
you know it was going on with Miles, it was like,
there would make a lot of sense anybody you know
opposite why my blanket.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
On the kid from Michigan eight and Huchinson. Yeah, and
he's coming back off of an injury. Yeah, but they
have plenty of cap space, plenty.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
I just don't think that the Bengals, having spent what
they've spent, can allow him to go away without a
player coming back in return who could help them defensively. Like,
there's just no if you're that all in on those
three positions on offense, like you have to have something
defensively that is feared a little. The problem for them

(14:13):
is too has been weird without you if they don't
get you. Shamar Sewart was actually their leverage. So and
he's not there either.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
So Joe Burrow makes his cap numbers forty six million. Yeah,
Higgins is twenty four, Chases his twenty three this year.
Orlando Brown Junior is fifteen. Then you don't have anybody
over ten. And if you go down one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight nine, ten, eleven, twelve. The thirteenth highest paid player
in terms of cap number for this team this year

(14:41):
is Evan McPherson. Really, yeah, four point five eight three million.
Their money, They are so top that they are abrasurdly
top heavy. Yeah, absurdly top heavy.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Man. I just.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Joe Burrow's got to get out of there. Well, he's
not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Unfortunately for me.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Is entrance and nothing like parking under a bridge. You
could get out there in seven.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
Welcome to the Natty.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
That's it. I mean, that's maybe some leftover turtle soup.
Otherwise you got to bring your own lunch.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'm sure I can tell you what turtle soup is.
A delight that that media luncheon that they do that
I've been two handful of times. It's like a mad
Men luncheon. Like the only thing missing is is the Martinis.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Everything else it's mad Men. You sit down, they put
they would put turtle soup in front of you after,
which is a delight. It basically tastes like a really
good beef and barley is what it tastes like.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Is it green? No, it's brown.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
I feel like it should be green, like for like
teenage mutant ninja turtles.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah something. If it was, it should be like the
meaty split Leonardo and Michelangelo. Yeah, and it should come
in a turtle shell as a bowl so you can
see the carcass.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
No no, no, not.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
See the car. But they make bowls out of turtles,
they do.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah, we had one with it was like a ninja
turtle one that the kids ate up with it a little.
So then they then they then you all get the side.
You all get a salad. Okay, nice little salad is
presented dressing already on that. We're not gonna have a
conversation about well, Mike Brown, don't care. Yeah, you're gonna
get this salad. That's why it's like the fifties. Then

(16:28):
you can choose and I don't know if it's still
this way, but the way they used to be, you
could choose either chicken or steak, and yeah, you'd get
a filet, you get a flay baked potato and a vegetable.
That's what I'm saying. It's like a Madman lunch. Nobody
eats lunch like this anymore.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, No, this is a very nineteen fifties yees heavy.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
All that's missing is the martinis and then there's a dessert.
So it's like dinner except it's lunch. Yeah, that's what it's.
All the courses just cash. Was he on a pickleball courts.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Straight from the club? I will say, that's that's the
first time we've seen that tighte of a pant in
a while. I'm glad it's back. It's good.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, it's I think it's accurate out of you that
that's probably true that it is first time. That's just
that's casual. That's a casual Tuesday, So that is that's
set up. Yeah, So yeah, my hunch is that they'll
I think they'll get it all done. The Stewart things
even is really tricky, that part of it because basically,
and Mike Brown talked yesterday and what he basically said

(17:35):
on that is that this comes down to there's a
provision in the contract that the Bengals, if he gets
in trouble, they don't want to have to pay.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
The full contract.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, so that's what it is now. He doesn't want
that clause in the country.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
His former coach in Texas A and m was like, Yeah,
he's working out here, but he's not going to play.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Which I thought that was interesting too, because I don't
know what would prevent him from doing so. To my knowledge,
there is no rule that would prevent him from doing so.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
The best part is that you're vibration. They're so incredible
that you have this custom. I think that's like could be.
I feel it's like Morse code, and it's because of me.
It's all because of you. It's all because of me. Well, you,
it is because of you. You started the chain. He
started it by walking.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
By, Oh man, there you go, there you go, there
you go, and here you go.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I got a hot take for you that just came
out of our intern's mouth, Go ahead, go you know
you know what, You die on this hill.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
He's gotta you give me young Bronca hill to die on.
I said that Rocky is better than anything Arnold's ever
been in. No, you don't believe that. You don't believe,
and you don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I'm gonna tell there is no scenario. There's no scenario
where if given the option of Predator or Rocky, you're
choosing Rocky.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Do you know how long hold on?

Speaker 4 (19:07):
He fights dead carcasses and Adrian. I'm gonna tell you something.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Rocky sucks. Yes, first of all, Roy sucks. And now
you're dropping a Rocky No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Rocky two really good. Four, Rocky three is awesome, and
Rocky four is awesome.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Rocky I've and Drago. Yeah, that's how I know you
don't mean business. You're just saying original, the original Rocky,
which is the weakest of the four.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Was saying.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I was referring to, like any of the movies in
this series, I like one through three.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Now, if you want to go four, if you want
to say Rocky four is better than anything Arnold's done,
I would give you Predator. I would give you Commando.
I would give you the Running Man. I would give
there's a bunch. I could turn T two, I give
you a bunch. But at least Rocky four is worthy
of the conversation. Yes, now I will give you this
stallone did. First Blood is just an awesome movie. Like

(20:04):
that's not really even an action it's it's full fledged
action for fifty minutes. Yeah, NonStop, Like as soon as uh,
who's the name of the cop, who's not will teasel
the other one Gault? As soon as Gault comes on
the scene with We're gonna teach lessons to the army boy.
From that point on, that's a rocket ship. But but

(20:24):
but that, and so Arnold's never done a movie like
that where it was like, I mean, First Blood is
quite honest, it could have been like Oscar material like that.
There was a there was a lot of teeth to
that story. But then from that point on, and by
the way, he did win Best Picture for Rocky with
the one that I said sucks, I think.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
He beat it over. I think he wanted to our
Godfather too. Is that possible? That doesn't feel possible. It
doesn't feel like it should be true. If if that
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
All right, I'm looking at it all right, forty Okay, Oh,
it's pretty good. It's a good list. It's it's not
it's not Godfather Too. It's all the President's men. So
that's Redford, that's Watergate at the Watergate show Bound for Glory.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
It's Network, which is great. And it's Taxi Driver, So
that's fine. That's if Rocky wants to win that that's fine.
It's it's just takes a long time to get going.
The original Rocky takes a long time going. Yes, it's
a long ways before bump bump bah bah bum bum bump.
That's a long way in. And I love Stallone. I
don't want to disparage stallone. He's I love him same

(21:36):
there's rock Arnold's just more fun.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
There's no shame in being number two. For example, Tom
Brady had a great career. He's just not Joe Montana.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Oh boy, you're right. Thing with Joe to Steve Young,
Steve Young.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Steve Steve Young is not even anywhere near whatever it
is that you're talking.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
We have, at least I haven't been around the two
of you to talk about this. The remake of The
Running Man.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
We did. We we discussed it a little bit.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I think I might have been out of town that way.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I think. I don't think we talked about it on air.
I think we talked about it off air and I.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Was you're nonplused.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
I do.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Plus there's no reason for it.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, I do think that if anyone was going to
do it, I think I think that Powell could be
good at it.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
That's fine, but I don't need it. It was perfect.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, I I don't know if Running Man is one
of those ones though that makes the rounds the way
that some of those others is good. I agree with you,
But for some reasons, some of those movies just aren't.
You don't see him on the streamers. You don't see
him bouncing around I'm a way that you do others,
like for whatever reason. For example, like right now, I
want to say, it's is it the paramount Yeah, paramounts

(22:46):
associated with Showtime? I think so, Like right now you're
being fed like a steady diet of Mission Impossible The Godfather,
Like on all of the paramount channels and streamers, you're
being fed that because the only the property I don't know,
I don't see anybody feeding me, Like, I gotta go
seek out the Arnold movies, and I haven't seen The

(23:06):
Running Man anywhere.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
In a long time.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Like I had to seek it out because I hadn't
seen it since I was a little kid. And then
it was like your favorite movie, and so we I
watched it, like probably, gosh, is it good? Five six
years ago? I watched it and I had to go
find it. I think I may have even bought it
on Amazon. It is what I may have done.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I think that sounds like a very appropriate thing. I
don't think so. I don't think it makes me the
butcher of Bakersfield. I think the other ones make the
other ones were just it's great, you've got Jesse the body.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
How about the fact they did that? And then Predator,
both of them.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Dawson as the game show host, Like, who's gonna play that?
Nobody's going to be as good as Richard Dawson. Who's
gonna play the old Lady? I choose Richard running That's good?

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Jim Brown in it?

Speaker 4 (23:58):
I think Jim Brown isn't it?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah? Is any sub zero remember the name that he
is in it? Yeah? Lightning something like that sub Zero
more like playing zero. Ha ha, yes, so good. Sub
Zero was like the guy who was like the hockey
guy that had like a like a his hockey stick
was like a blade. When there was Dynamo.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I don't remember their names, but I did.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
It was great. So I think.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
So I don't have a problem with them doing it
with Glenn Powell because I think there's a generation of
people that aren't familiar with the IP So I think.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think. I also don't think you can even do
the movie the way that it was done, Like, I
don't think you can even It's so they don't make
movies like that anymore.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
They really don't, all right.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Richard Duwson was Damon Killing, Jim Brown was Fireball, Jesse
Venture was Captain Freedom Erlin Ven Dynamo had that right
buzz saw, and then yeah, Professor Toru Tanaka was sub
zero more like play zero. Remember when they would show
the winners and they'd show them on beaches and say,
they won, oh yeah, not really, not sure they did.

(25:11):
Maybe they didn't.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm alright with it. I think Powell can
front things. I think he'll be all right.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Why okay, boy, his stock is hold on It's Maverick.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
He's doing well.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, well he did.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
The big thing for him was he fronted, well, he
co fronted that romantic comedy with Sidney Sweeney that went
nuts on Netflix. I forget the name of it, but
she fronts it with him, and yeah, he's yeah, he's
on a he's on a heat.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
He's great. He was in the New Twister. Why can't
we just make new movies.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
Because no one's smart enough to do it and it's
too big of a risk. It's an IP risk because
you can't just say, here's an idea for a movie.
You got to say, well, what's the IP? What can
we do with it? And so it's easier to come
up with something that's worked in the past and come
up with something on your own. It's just what it's
happened over.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
And over again.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Vince vonn had a great bit about this about they
can't make it, they can't make him anymore, and he goes,
it was all about the in same thing. Matt Damon's
had the same conversation, like you have prestige directors who
can kind of do whatever they want, like Scorsese and
oh my god, I'm blake on the guy who did
the Batman and did Oppenheimer, Chris Nolan, no one, Like

(26:18):
so those guys can kind of do whatever, like he's doing, uh,
the Odyssey, Like that's a bold play to do the Odyssey.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Now the Iliad.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, so that's those guys can do it. But other
than that, it's like you have to have something that
we can make a franchise out of. And so I
think you just don't see those things anymore like that,
I mean, other thing we're talking about the craziest here
to put a ribbon on the Sly Arnold conversation, Arnold
really didn't do a whole lot of sequels. He didn't

(26:46):
do Predator too.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
He didn't.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
He didn't there was a Predator too, he wasn't in it.
Danny Glover was.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Not the only big one I can think of immediately
as Terminator. That's it.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
But like David had to change his role in that
to kind of, you know, to make it work. But
he didn't do Predator. He didn't do Commando two, he
didn't do Clear or what was the true True Lies
to didn't do it like he didn't want to. Yeah,
he did the Conans, but not much meantime, Stalloane everything
tried to turn into a part two.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Everything did Part three, Part four? Yeah, yeah, can you
have Rambo first Blood Part two? It's the first blood.
It can only be once, It can only be once.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah, it's a wild premise.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
By the way, too.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Let's take the guy who just blew up an entire
northwest Pacific, Pacific Northwest down. Take him. We're gonna get
him out. We're gonna put him on a chopper. We're
gonna fly him into Vietnam, the source of all of
his terror. And he can't kill anybody, he can't fire
a weapon. He's just gonna take pictures to prove there's POWs.
And then once he goes there and finds that there

(27:48):
are POWs, it was all just a CIA scam to
get rid of him as a witness because they really
didn't want to find POW's. And then way we go
and the Russians are involved, and it's all you need,
that's all you need. It's all you needed in those days, kids,
it was a simpler time. Those are your hot topics Today,
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Speaker 2 (29:05):
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Speaker 4 (29:07):
Episode one features the biggest of L's owners, Jimmy and
d Haslam. Let's start with D and Jimmy on pivoting
from remodeling the old stadium to building a new one.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
The Degroonimo family, who we do some other things with,
as you know, presented this one hundred and seventy five
acre piece of property bounded by two Interstates. Clean Flat
has power, which is a huge deal in this world,
right across from the airport, twelve miles from downtown, very
close to where we are here in Berea. We started

(29:38):
looking long and hard, and that's when we started having
second thoughts about investing in our current facility, because it'd
be like you had a not so good house in
a not so good location. And that's what we finally
figured out, and it would be real tough to fix it.
The location challenges remain, so that's when we pivoted and
started looking at Brook Park.

Speaker 8 (29:59):
And you don't want to think short sighted. I mean,
this is a long play. I mean the super Dome
is fifty years old, so you're thinking what can we
do for northeast Ohio. That is a long play that
really takes care of our fans and actually creates something
pretty unique for Ohio.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
All right, good stuff there from D and Jimmy. Here
are D and Jimmy. Now on why building a dome
downtown was not feasible.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
We did work hard, and as we said many times,
it had been way easier if there was an opportunity
to put a dome stadium somewhere downtown. We looked hard
at Burke this time last year, worked with the city
and the county on that. The reality is there's two
or three problems with Burke. One that is built on
a landfill and so the soil the soil is I'll
just say not good. And number two, nobody can really

(30:47):
tell you when Burke will be closed. Some people say
five years, some people say never. I know when I
brought it up to the government, he just rolled his
eyes and said, Jimmy, that's not happening. So then we
pivoted away from there. As long as Burke is there,
you can't put a roof on the current stadium.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
That would also involve us playing somewhere else for a
couple of years. Okay, if we did that kind of
major between the cost having to play somewhere else in
the opportune at brook Park, it just made more sense
to go to Brook Park, which is d said is
twelve miles from downtown. It's right across from the airport.
And I think you know this, but maybe a lot
of our fans listening today don't know this. Two thirds

(31:25):
of our fans that come to a game at our
current Huntington field come from out of outside Kyhoga County
two thirds, so that's sixty seven percent. So I think
they're all excited. D And I spent a lot of
time down in Columbus, as you know, with our soccer team,
and the people in Columbus are very excited because all
of a sudden phenal where you live, it's an hour
and a half hour, forty five ingriss egress, easy parking, easy,

(31:47):
et cetera. And I'll just say, coming to our current stadium,
it's a challenge.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:52):
Now I think one other thing. I think that it
opens up twenty two more acres on the lakefront that
could create the most exciting lakefront in the country. So
you have to kind of think, Okay, we're going to
be able to open the lakefront and develop it. We're
going to be able to have this transformational dome in
brook Park, We're going to be able to do the
river front, and you're going to have a new airport.

(32:14):
I mean that is pure growth for this area. And
it's a growth mindset that we've needed for a long time.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
All Right, there you go. I think this last one
plays into it, and then well I want to get
because you conducted all of these of my friends. Let's ye,
let's hear this one.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
This is on.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
This is Jimmy Hasl on how the new Dome can
change the image of Cleveland in a positive way.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
The opportunity.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
If you think, right now, you fly into Cleveland and
I'll just say, our airport doesn't present itself well. And
then you look across the street and there's one hundred
and seventy five acres of what I would call industrial wasteland. Okay,
that was an old Ford plant that at one point
in time employed twenty two thousand people. Unbelievable amount of

(32:55):
jobs for this area that's just sitting there. Well, you
don't start off saying, man, this is an awesome area.
With the airport being ran redone in four or five
years and with what we're gonna build there. Now when
people come to Cleveland, they're gonna put an awesome face
forward on Man, what a cool airport. Look at this facility.
I had no idea Cleveland had something like this. So

(33:15):
these use the word transformative several times, and I think
that's right.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
All right, there you go. So the incredible insight I
think into this process and this is gonna be a
series of podcasts with the people absolutely at the top
when you look at it from obviously with the HASLMS,
JW and Whitney, Dave Jenkins, others. We're gonna have other
luminaries from in and around the National Football League also

(33:41):
within our building, just kind of into this whole process
at what went into it. And it's a sixteen minute interview.
You can get it at Cloonebrowns dot com, YouTube dot com,
slash Browns or wherever you get your podcasts and search
building Browns down and you get real insight. I mean
this is They are very candid. They talk about a
lot of the plans, what went into a lot of
these things. I think he's exactly right. I talk about

(34:03):
in a few of these with the various people that
it is when you fly into see this is I'm
talking for me. When I fly into city, I look
for two things. Golf courses, especially ones that I know,
and then stadiums and when you can fly in here
and for example, youf fly in out let, you go
right by Sofi and back in the day you could
also see the old Forum, which was very cool right

(34:24):
now in Englewood, but when you're Lakers don't play there.
But they're still there, but you go by Sofi or
when you fly into Dallas, the flight path often takes
you right over the Cowboys Stadium. There are a lot
of places where it's like that, and when they're really
cool looking, it is an attention getter, and I think
it is something that is a source of pride for
the area and you get excited to see it. And

(34:46):
I think that's what this is going to be. The
location of it and the fact that there is for
a time this is going to be the greatest stadium
on planet Earth. And I think that is a very
exciting thing. And I think it will be really cool
to be able to fly in it and and kind
of help change the image of Cleveland because people think
of these Midwest areas it's called the rust Belt, yep.
You know, they think of them as old factories and

(35:07):
you know, dilapidated in that way. When it is not.
There's a very vibrant culture here in Cleveland. And when
you fly in now and you see, oh my goodness,
that is a state of the art stadium in this
I just think it enhances the region, enhances the profile
of the region, and enhances obviously the things that the
region is going to be able to attract and it's
going to be great.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
It enhances all of the things you said, and it
also enhances your football team and your football product. This
is the way that this ownership has handled things in
free agency, as aggressive as we've been, what we've been
when willing to do via trade for keeping people. This
has been a place veterans like to play in the
last decade really certainly last since twenty eighteen that around

(35:47):
that time, in the drafting of Miles all of that, Like,
this is an easy place. Veterans want to play here.
They want to be a part of the culture, they
want to be a part of all of it. Well, now,
all of a sudden, you're gonna have facilities that match it,
and you're going to have climate control.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
YEP.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
So if you're if you draft well and you have
what you want to be, if you draft the best
team and you're willing to pay for the best team,
then why not have them play in the most perfect,
pristine conditions. That's the recipe for success. That's what episodes
did in Indy.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
YEP.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
That's what the Colts did Indye. They built a team
for that dome and they won a Super Bowl and
they got to the cusp of it a lot. Yeah,
they landed Peyton Manning, and that's what you got to try.
You try to get to get that guy, but then
you can build stuff around it that fits the dome.
The Vikings have done this forever, and the Vikings have
been very successful in our lifetime. They haven't won the
ultimate prize of the Super Bowl, but they've knocked on

(36:33):
the door consistently for forty plus years. They've had a
lot of good teams. Yeah, there's a way to do
this that makes a lot of sense. And so you
and I started talking about this before this was even
in I mean, this goes back to you and I
first started doing the show. Oh yeah, and your experiences
were primarily because you're standing on the sidelines for all
these games in December and January.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
And they're awful.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
And my experience is going having to go to some
of those late in the year games. Just the reality
that for all of the I was there for the
Browns Bills game in the snow.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I was at that. I was actually one of them.
I was there.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I was actually in at that game. And I remember
my father in law, God bless him, when we came
around the corner. We were walking back to Johnny's to
have dinner afterwards, and we hit a patch of ice
and it was about the end for both of us.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I mean truly was. And there.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
While it's a badge of honor that we got through it,
there wasn't a lot of great.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
In that day.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
I'm telling you. It sucked.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
And you see a lot of the empty seats because
people go to the concourses, because the weather sucks, it's
on the lake. I mean, it's all of those things.
So I and by the way, and this is anecdotally,
I grant you, but all most of the people that
ask ninety eight percent of the people who asked me
about this are for it can't wait, Yes, of course,
So I think there is some that are like trying to.

(37:48):
But are they people who actually go to games like
the people that I'm talking to, people go to games
and they can't wait.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Correct. I couldn't agree anymore with you, and I think
that yes, that's why part of this is for the
fan experience. And we do have a clip d and
Jim talking about fan experience at the New Dome.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
I think we'd be reniss if we didn't say and
D and I take full blame. We have not done
the job on the field we should and we bear
full responsibility. And if anybody deserves a great stadium and
a great team, it's the Cleveland Brown fans. You deal
with them every day. We have the world's greatest fans.
We are going to deliver a world class stadium. I
could argue the best stadium in the country, one of

(38:27):
the best in the world. We need to develop the
same kind of team. I do think a Dome stadium
and you're with us when we go on the road,
does give you an advantage with the home field because
that noise is just packed in there tighter.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
And we hope this will.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
Become not only a great experience for our fans, but
a terrible experience for the visiting team because it is
a quote hard place to play.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (38:48):
I think everything we've done in the planning process for
the new Dome Stadium is fan first. You know, what
can we do to create the best experience for the fans.
Talking about the unique food service, you know we're going
to have some really great experience. Is just everything about
the concourse and we've thought about you know, what's the

(39:10):
experience going to be like for the fan, what the
plaza looks like. I mean, it's kind of walking in
the fans shoes to create the best experience for them,
because we know now it's been a pretty rough experience
for them, and we want to make sure that every
detail is fan first.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's what this is about providing. Look, and I like
that they own it at the beginning. The best thing
we can do with the fans is give you a
winning football team. Yeah, and that is obviously the focus
every day in this building is to do just that.
But this fan experience that when you come to the
game and listen. The National Football League, I think is
well aware of that with the unbelievable upgrades and technology

(39:48):
when it comes to TVs, the comfort of your own
home is a good way to watch a football game.
It is. So if you want to get somebody to
leave their home to come to the game, you've got
to give them the ultimate experience. And that's what this
is going to be. And you talk about the closest
seats to the field of any stadium in the National
Football League, they're gonna have this awesome. The Dog Pound
is going to be amazing and We've got a special

(40:08):
tonight on News five at eight o'clock about the fortieth
anniversary of the Dog Pound, which you can check out
that'll have some kind of peaks into what the new
dog Pound is going to look like in this stadium.
They are trying to take best practice from every building
on planet Earth right now to create the ultimate fan experience.
The video boards, the size of the concourse is the

(40:29):
food offerings, the ease of getting to everything, to try
to make sure that you're not waiting in lines when
you need food, when you need to go to the bathroom,
all of that that it's all first class and easy
for you. So that's I think a very very important
part of it. And that's not just for the Browns games,
which obviously are the big focus, but that's going to
be for all of the different events that can be

(40:50):
held in this building year round. And we're talking major,
major events. And here's Jimmy talking, well, hold on real
quick before you play that. I just wanted to because
you mentioned the dog Pound. This is how thoughtful that is.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
So if you go down seventy one South and go
to lower dot Comfield, the Columbus crew who the HASLM zone.
If our majority owners in and own that friend, if
you loan that team ghosts, go look at what they
did with the NORDCA, which is the cruise version of
the dog Pound. Okay, and go look at what they
did with that wall. It's the wall that's modeled off

(41:23):
of the Yellow Wall, which is a Dortmund fan session
section at Barusha Dortmund in the Bundesliga, and it's one
of the coolest fan experiences you could ever have. It's
basically a straight up wall that's right in the field
and they did it at lower dot Com and it
is a smashing success down in Columbus. And so when
you see what they're going to do with the dog

(41:44):
Pound here, just imagine a wall of fans that is
incredibly vertical, that is all over and closest to your point,
closest to the field. So if you're curious like what
the feel of it could be, there's a smaller example
of it that was done perfectly and I.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Want to put the visitors tunnel down there by that wall.
JW and Whitney in one of the upcoming episodes talk
more about that and that there are going to be
some very like people who are in that on the wall.
There are going to be exclusive things for them as
a part of that ticket in terms of entrances, parking,
and things like that.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I just wanted to get that in because they did
it already, Yeah, in Columbus, and it's killing.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's absolutely killing.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
This is the one on the other entities that could
be at the.

Speaker 7 (42:30):
Dome building this dome facility, we'll go from having ten
events a year in our current stadium to have in
all kinds of events. And I mean, I think it's
really important for everybody to understand that, yes, there'll be
ten NFL games and hopefully more, but there'll also be
a chance to have national championship games in football, Final

(42:50):
four games in basketball men's and women's. They'll be chanced
to have the Sweet sixteen here. The Women's World Cup
has come to the US in thirty one. We will
put in a bid for that. Would we have gotten
a bid in if we'd had it, we'd have had
a bid for the Men's World Cup, which comes next year.
As you know, so you have to think big and broad.
All the concerts that we've missed that go to Detroit

(43:11):
or go somewhere else. Indianapolis will now come here. So
it is going to be transformational.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yeah, I mean it's you're gonna see Ohio State playing
in that thing for sure, in a college football playoff,
You're gonna see National championship game in that thing. You're
gonna see a super Bowl like it's all all of
those things otherwise would never happen, not just in this
area but in the state.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Quite honestly, Yep.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
You now can be Ohio can now be a player
for those type of things, and it has never previously
been a player.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, and that's what I mean to me, That's what's
exciting about it, right, I'm sick.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Of seeing it go to Indy, you know how I
feel about that drive of course, and they get everything.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
They most certainly do, and they'd get it because.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
They built a dome and this one's gonna blow that
one out of the water. So very good, good job
out of you and good job out of the HASLMS
on that you can get that. As he mentioned the
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Speaker 5 (44:55):
Speaking of that, the Eagles, with a new edition expected
to sign for more Browns defense Obo okoronquo. Of course,
we'll see him in a few weeks then, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
That's easy.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Yeah, that makes sense. And right when the show started,
wasn't sure if you guys saw this, the Bills bringing
back the red helmet.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, did see it. Like it. I think it's a
classy way to close out the building.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
So this is one of those ones where I think
what they wear currently is better, but I think to
close out was it still Ralph Wilson or whatever? It's
for my lifetime, it was always Ralph Wilson Stadium to
close that out with the Jim Kelly Thurman, Thomas Bruce
Smith era look is a perfect masterclass of marketing. Great

(45:40):
job out of them. It helps they have Josh Allen
makes it all look pretty good. But no, I and
I think the ones they wear currently are perfect. I
love them. So this wearing this is a one off.
I think is a really nice touch, very nice touch.
We mentioned this a little bit earlier. Bengals defensive NFL
seculer Trey Hendrickson, who is still seeking new contract, did

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not report to training camp in Cincinnati. In fact, he
took an Instagram photo of himself driving down the highway
in Florida, and so that's where he is on that.
So they are without Hendrickson. They are also without first
round pick Shamar Stewart. He is holding out. The Bengals
are trying to They're trying to have a provision in
his contract that would prevent them giving him guaranteed money

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if he were to get into trouble off the field.
Stuart is trying to is not interested in that.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Is the way that it's been present and are they
trying to present him something that is unique to them
and him. I think it's the exact same thing. Is
it in every first rounders contract? No, it's not. So
that's what I mean. They're trying to do something.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
I think they're trying to do something different. I think
he just wants, if memory serves, they're trying to do
something different with this than what they did last year
with their first round pick. Okay, and then he's like,
why can't I just do what you did last year?
And their thing anybody else's or what anybody else is doing, which,
if i'm him, he's the only first round pick on
signed that I would say that's a problem.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, it'd be one thing.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
If he was a first round pick on sign in Philly,
then you'd be like, huh, that's odd. But there are
a couple of operations that run this way, and the
Bengals are one of them. Yeah, so that's the way
he goes.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
It is new uniform week.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
I mean, there's been a ton of these dropped. The
Saints released alternate gold jerseys that they're going to wear
this season. They images released a video that had a
gold jersey paired with black pants and their black alternate helmet.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
This is what I.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Would say, this is how you miss on this.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
This is just simple. They're doing it right now.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Yeah, the gold is fine, a gold helmet or a
gold jersey. It looks all right, like it's a kind
of a Vegas gold. It's kind of a soft gold.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
It works.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
But you don't pair it with a black hat and
black pants. You pair it with either the gold helmet
and white pants, or you pair it with the white
hat and white pants. Like all of that black helmet,
gold top, black pant. That ain't it, man.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I think ain't to wear the gold helmet with a
gold top and a black pant. But I like, I
lo what you're saying. I like the white. The white
with the golden white or white gold white would look great.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
And gold gold white would look good.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Their colors are black and gold, so they are the
gold could look okay, even black, a whit black helmet.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
I think the black helmet's the problem, and I think
a white pant would be would have been the way
to go some of the some of this it's trying
a little too hard on some of this stuff, and
just a little bit of common sense goes a long way.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
I do.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I do think the uniform on its own is fine.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I just think to me, that would be a uniform
that's fine on to own that could go with the
gold helmet. With the gold helmet, you could wear it
with white or black pants. You really could. Yeah, but
just don't wear the black helmet.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Don't wear the black.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Helmet with it. Yeah, so did we?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
The Chargers added the navy blue one.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Which we've talked about. We've talked, but which one? That
one's good? The other two they added the.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Terrible Yeah, and then they added a powder blue pant.
I think they haven't had a powdered blue pant before,
which that'll look great because it's kind of a cheat code.
Who else has done? We had the Steelers yesterday. Is
everybody else done that needs to be done on that front?
On the new uniform, new shell? Is there anybody else
we're waiting for?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I don't think so. Yeah, I think just us? Well
yeah right, yeah, so who knows? I mean, they've been
leaking some cool videos that appears that the helmet is
in a box that is set to a timer that
is going to expire and pop a lock and the
box is going to.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Open, unveil, unveil. Okay, the box is pretty cool looking.
I haven't seen any of that, so I look forward.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
To it's on the socials right now? Did we put
it on the socials. We've put a few things on
the social I think they are artists renderings of the box.
But I've seen the box and it's really cool.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Actually, I'm on our socials and I see an image
of Miles walking into the building.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Nice, there you go. Oh there you go.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Now I see it racing towards something big, okay, yeah, yeah, Oh,
I see the animation okay, oh here oh and then
a box here we go. Oh it's tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
The countdown is on.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
Brother countdowns on?

Speaker 6 (50:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
That well by that is that countdown to be one?
That is that I'm to take literally?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Oh no, it's just a no, no, no, they're just
I think they're showing you what's going to happen when
the countdown actually does hit zero.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Okay, all right, So maybe we'll have more for more
on that for you perhaps tomorrow. The Jets underwent locker
room and innovations this soft season, ninety two customized lockers
of barbershop and a son I look pretty sweet.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
The lockers are the.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
First of any pro college team have fully automated video screens.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
That's that's in I asked Jordan, I'm like, is that
in their facility or at the stadium.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
He's like, stadium, Oh, they put it at the stadium.
That not at the facility. The facility looks unreal. I
mean they have a brand new That's.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Why I'm like, have three locker rooms the Jets the Giants.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
Yeah, Jordan worked for the Jets, right, He was like,
where would the the Jets are always in their locker
room when they played the Giants. Did they get their
own locker room? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Yeah, so they get their own yeah, okay, yeah, all
of those things win.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
All those things win.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Former Chargers and Colts quarterback Philip Rivers is retiring a Charger.
He hasn't played since his final season with the Colts
in twenty twenty one. Now officially announced his retirement as
a Charger, where he spent sixteen seasons. The eight time
Pro Bowler holds over thirty Chargers records, had two hundred
and twenty four consecutive starts at QB and to me,
like the president of the Hall of very good.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yes, not a Hall of Famer, very good. In an
era where there were a lot of good quarterbacks. He
was really really good.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Hey, he's a franchise quarterback for sure for.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
A long long, long time, a long long time. Yeah,
I mean, and that's kind of not just that's.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
He is.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Unfortunately for him, he was in an era that featured
some of the very best quarterbacks ever and he just
isn't quite on that level.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
He just wasn't a part of enough team success to
be on that level because statistically, I think he premibably
would be, but they just didn't win enough.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, at highest level.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Like there's a couple there's like an upset of the
Colts one time, and I think maybe you beat the
Steelers once when they weren't supposed to, but they never
could get like did how many AFC Championship games did
he even get to?

Speaker 6 (52:28):
Little?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Obviously they didn't make it to a super Bowl, But
like that, I'm not sure, but just real like in
terms of accumulation, he's top ten all time in attempts,
he's tenth all time and attempts eighth all time, and
completion six all time in yards, six all time in
passing touchdowns. So you know, when you look at things
like that, you would say to yourself, somebody who's top

(52:49):
ten in all of those categories would be a Hall
of Famer, right yeah, but I just he's not. Now.
Pro Football Reference has him pretty close to being Hall
of Famer. They have him ninety eight on the Hall
of Fame Monitor, below the average, but he is above
Bart Star, Terry Bradshaw, Staubach, Fouts, Kurt Warner, Stabler, Sonny Jurgensen,

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Bob Greasey, Warren Moon, who all made it. Warren Moon
making it is an accumulator who didn't really have the
team success gives him a chance. I think, all right, sorry, sorry, fault,
there we go. Good looking out. It's good looking at
that would that would be the one way that I
think that he that could maybe help him. Was never
a first team All Pro. He was a many time

(53:36):
Pro bowler, eight time Pro bowler, led the league in
passing yards once, the league in passing touchdowns twice, the
league in yards per attempt three times, league and quarterback
rating once. Was in the top of the MVP voting
three different times. But you're talking, what is this playoff record?
Playoffs five and seven in two thousand and seven, they

(53:59):
got do an AFC Championship game because they played games one. Yeah,
and they lost.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Obviously, they lost twenty one to twelve to the Patriots
in that AFC Championship game in seven. By the way,
I should mentioned listening to eight to fifty wkn R,
ESPN Cleveland, a good Karma brand station. Here's you said
a couple of guys that I think are interesting. I
think you can't. You can't possibly compare like the Bradshaw
star stop act Stabler. It's it's different game, sport's not

(54:28):
the same. But a couple of things that are interesting
to me is one of the names you mentioned was
Kurt Warner. Yep, Kurt Warner had an MVP, a Super
Bowl win and a second or did he have two
more Super Bowl appearances? But in terms of he won
a Super Bowl, he won one and I think he
played in two more.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Two time first team.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
He lost to the Patriots in one and they lost
to the and then he lost to one. Did he
get to one with the Cardinals or no? Or was
that Palmer?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
No? That was him that lost to the Steelers. He
was the quarterback. Wasn't Palmer for Arizona?

Speaker 5 (55:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Wa Kirarner? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Yeah, So he's been to three one to one and
he won an MVP. But he also, like Rivers, has
sixteen years as a starter, like on a good team.
So it's like, yess, what's hard about the Hall of
Fame like and what's so crazy about is it really
comes down to Oftentimes for Rivers and me, it comes
down to Eli Manning or Philip Rivers or neither.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
So Rivers is higher on their scale than than Eli.
Eli's got the two Super Bowls, no first Team All Pros,
four Pro Bowls. Rivers was eight Pro Bowls. Rivers numbers
are much better than Eli Manning way, but he doesn't
have the two examplet No. The guy that's interesting is
that he'll be compared a lot too, will be compared

(55:44):
a lot to I would imagine Matt Ryan and Roethlisberger.
Roethlisberger's got the two Super Bowls, no first Team All Pros,
six Pro Bowls. Matt Ryan also does not have a
Super Bowl, like Rivers, is a one time first team
Mall Pro, only four Pro Bowls. I won an MVP though,
but one an MVP and played in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Yeah, yeah, it feels to me like Rivers' career. He
was better longer than Ryan. But maybe I'm.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Ryan had fifteen years as a starter as a primary starter,
so did uh so did Rivers.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I would have thought Ryan's was much less than that.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
That's wild.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Yeah, So I think that's probably the guy is probably
Matt Ryan, like, except Ryan does.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Have the MVP. He has an MVP, which I think
is that's a big deal to me.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Yeah, yeah, if you were what about the Roethlisberger River
because Roethlisberger's getting in two quarterback.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Two super bowl because he won two Super Bowls, and
I think.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
And there was a time when you could I mean,
there was a time when they're but tail. There was
the same thing with Rivers, Like there was a time
their offense was the most dangerous in the league with
Tomlinson and Gates and him.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
And so it's interesting, as I mentioned, Rivers was multiple
times near the top of the MVP voting, Roethlisberger was
never even close, never even top ten. Hmm in an
MVP voting situation.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
I wonder if that was just their defense was so
good that he didn't when they were winning, he wasn't.
They weren't offensively driven.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
The one that's going to be interesting is like Stafford.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yeah, Stafford's got the metric though that he doesn't. He's
got the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
He's got Super Bowl. Never been an MVP once, was
in the MVP voting top ten just one time, and
only two Matt Stafford only two Pro Bowls in his career.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
That's crazy, wild to me, especially in the NFC. That's
crazy because he didn't have to go through Brady in Manning. Yeah,
you know, yeah, but they're going to be interesting. Ones
like that are coming up, Like Brady Rogers and Breeze
are automatics, but then you've got and Mahomes automatic, but
you have Ryan Roethlisberger, Rivers, Russ Wilson, Eli Stafford from that, Yeah, era,

(57:51):
they're not all going to get in no way, not
all going to get it in no no interesting just and
obviously could change after this year. But the way that
Warren Moon is the guy who to me kind of
feels the most like Rivers. No championships, no first team,
All pros, nine Pro Bowls, basically the same fifteen years
as a starter and a big statistical accumulator, even though
his stats aren't close to Rivers, but for his day

(58:14):
he was.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And Warren Moon also spent a great deal of his career.
People need to remember in the USFL.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
The other thing you have to remember with Warren Moon
is and I think rightfully, so he gets a great
deal of credit of being a black quarterback and having success.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
That was something that the league just didn't have. Yeah time.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Yeah, and so he was a trailblazer in that sense
of you're getting to be good and then he was.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
He was great.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
All time mustache too and all time arm like he
could flat spin it anywhere.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah, that's going to be there. Interesting And this is again,
this is the way that Pro Football Reference sees it.
For their calculations. They ranked them from top to bottom.
Ryan Roethlisberger, Rivers, Russ, Eli Stafford in that order.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Well Russ behind Stafford, Russ ahead of Stafford, Us ahead
of Stafford.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
It's hard for me to believe Ryan well Russ as
the Super Bowl. Russ has ten twelve years as a starter.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Yeah, Stafford's got the Super Bowl though, too, but he
doesn't have ten Pro bowls. Russ's impossible that Russ has
ten ten Pro Bowls.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Russ also has a second team All Pro and five
top four finishes in the Offensive Player of the year.
That's wild. I would not have had that.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
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Don't miss out on this must see summer show. Some
sad news of the pop culture the music world. Legendary
rock musician Ozzy Osbourne has sadly passed away at the

(01:00:24):
age of seventy six. What he had a concert last month?

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Just happened?

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Had a concert last month recently?

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Yeah, in Birmingham. I'm pretty sure it was Birmingham which
is where he was from.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
If a memory.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Serves like the last Black Sabas show, right, it was, yeah,
and that was like a month ago, not even Yeah,
what happened? Well, I think it was trending in this
direction and that's why they did. That's why they did
what they did a little bit with it. But I mean,
so it's interesting. My I didn't know him as a
kid as a musician. Where I really got introduced to

(01:00:55):
him was the reality TV show where he was maybe
the funniest reality TV show of all time, of all time,
own a very short list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I owned every season on DVD. It was unreal. The
os One's I couldn't get enough. So good he was.
He was the most likable and he's Yes, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Like l D a little bit, like all of his
grievances I thought were justified, totally.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Just yeah, I might have to do a rewatch on that.
I wonder where you can find that on It's got
to be on a streaming service somewhere. You said you
have the DVDs. I do, but I mean tracking out it.
Do you think I'm a DVD player somewhere? Yeah, Xbox
there see if it works.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Do you have any Ozzy Osbourne Stories from your music
radio days.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
Gibbe, I don't, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I mean I just you know, you remember, yeah, all that, Yeah,
the first few seasons of that, yeah that it was
the MTV show was one program No and then he
but he was so nice. He was just nice MD.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
And it was because we're while we are old men,
now we are not so old that we remember. I
don't remember Black Sabbath, that's waving. I don't have a
point of reference on that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I knew them, I knew Crazy Train.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
Yeah that, but I didn't know that even they sang that,
I don't think until it was until it was the
open of the and then I'm like, oh, this is
I didn't put all that together until the reality series.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I mean, he was like biting heads off of birds
and whatnot. But wasn't the whole.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
Point in that is he didn't really like it had
already happened, but he staged it. Yeah, I think kind
of who knows, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I'm just saying he was the way. He was a
very sweet, funny the man living in an absurd world
that he knew was absurd, and I thought his observational
humor was God I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna do
a rewatch of that. It's fantastic. He was great. The
kids were not they were He was the star as

(01:02:43):
far as I was concerned, no doubt, Like, yes, come on,
so good, he's that's so said. And then did you
see yesterday theo Huxtable I did that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Yeah, so he was on vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Like an accidental drowning, was in the Caribbean or something.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
This still works, Like every time you go to any
sporting event, they push.

Speaker 5 (01:03:03):
That, especially when all of a sudden you need something
to get them ament like there's a glimmer of hope
you're coming back. Yeah. The final two minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Oh man, this really makes me sad. Yeah, it happened
just like just now in the last three minutes, four
five minutes. Yeah, I'll just happened. Yeah, bomber Man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
I do wonder though, like if you would have asked
pulled people, like when he was in his twenties, do
you think he'll get to seventy six? Probably no chance, right,
I mean he lived hard, Yeah, as hard as you
can live.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Well, content Brown's just at Assie. Making it to seventy
six is like a normal person making it to one
hundred and fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Right, that's probably fair. That's probably fair. Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
they did that in that was around. It's right when
those Oasis shows came back. When Oasis came back, it
started playing yes right again, which that, by the way,
goes to that theory I have and I know you
and I've talked about this, how music is timeless. We're
driving back from Cincinnati on Sunday and the Oldest is

(01:04:02):
humming Champagne Supernova, and I'm like, you do realize that's
like ninety six.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
That's right in the wheelhouse.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
That's right, R very familiar with don't look back in anger.
I can Yeah, I know that quite well. So rest
in peace to Ozzy Osbourne. Massive presence in rock and
roll and truly in reality TV too. That was that
the Jessica Simpson won, Like all of those were like
windows into stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
It all was a that was a great show. That
was a great show too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
It was all a preamble to the Kardashians and all
of that stuff. But those were the first ones to
do it, really really trendsetters in that all Right, CBS
Sports is Jared Dublin has ranked the twenty twenty five
NFL Triplet Ranking. So the idea here is quarterback, running back,
wide receiver, best combination of that. They have a panel

(01:04:53):
of ten voters who voted on of it one to
thirty two best triplets in the NFL. Look, it's probably
not a coincidence that when you look at this list
and you look at the teams that are on it,
the teams that are on this list are almost all

(01:05:14):
teams that you would not be shocked if they won
the Super Bowl, And probably the team at number one
would be the most shocking of the top seven. I
think a lot of people are high on the Rams
this summer. They have the Bengals number one. It's interesting
the three they use obviously a Burrow and Chase the Brown. Yeah,

(01:05:34):
they use Chase Brown. Is I think that I used Higgins?
Then I think you make I think the Bengals would
be third. Actually, I think the Bengals would be I
think they'd be third. I think the gap between and
while the gap is immense between Chase and it's big
between Chase and z Flowers. The gap between and I'm

(01:05:56):
a big Chase Brown guy. People like him big, but
Takuan and Derek hen are on a completely different level.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Lamar's at least equal to Burrow. Yeah, Hurts Barkley, A. J.
Browns pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
That's that's probably the most balanced.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah, most balanced. Goth Gibbs, I'm on Ross Aint Bros.
Pretty good too.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
But look at these teams. I mean it's Bengals, Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Chiefs, Bills, Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
That's the top seven.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
That's the top two tiers, every single one of those teams.
And by there's a if you're not if you're just
digging in on the NFL now because we're reporting and everything,
like sure, one of the topics of conversation this summer
around the league has been the Rams. Like people are
on the Rams with Stafford back, DeVante Adams, Puka Akua,

(01:06:43):
what they did last year in the draft, the two
on the defensive line. Like a lot of people like
the Rams to win that division and and be right
back in the mix. So get used to seeing them around.
But all of the rest of those teams are either
playoff teams or Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
I think the crazy thing is, I mean the Chiefs
and Bills are there because of their quarterbacks. I mean
the wide receivers are good, but a lot to prove
there still.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Yeah, the Chiefs went Pacheco and rache Rice. You forget
he got went got hurt.

Speaker 9 (01:07:13):
Yeah, I don't because I had him in fantasy. Yeah,
anybody you drafted, there's just no chance, no chance. Uh, yeah,
you're right, Bills, it's just Josh lifting. James Cook's a
nice player, rushing touchdowns last year.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Yeah, and then Stafford, Kyron Williams and Puka Nakula for
the Rams.

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
Make an argument the Rams should be ahead of both,
but the quarterback situation is probably what's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
That to The Niners should be higher, by.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
The way, news out of San fran in the last
two minutes, John Lynch telling reporters forty nine or wide
receiver Brandon I you currently is not anywhere close to
having a concrete timeline to return. Acrimonious Saint Brown is
signing with the Niners brother try out on Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
How far down do you have to go on this
list though, to find a team that isn't what you
would consider a playoff team? You know, we're really early
here was it the Dolphins at fifteen?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
But they could be Yeah, they could be they're probably
the are they the biggest long sho I mean, the
Bengals could be a product just of their schedule and
their division makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I think the Broncos and the Bears are potential playoff teams.
I certainly think the Steelers would think they're a potential playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Your way down the list though, now that way you're
into the twenties. Yeah, yeah, But what I guess my
point is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I don't know that the Cardinals right now you would
peg as a playoff team. I don't know about the Jags.
If you'd peg as a playoff team.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Through the first four tiers, for every one in the
first four tiers all the way to team fifteen, which
is Miami. So that's the next four. Here are the
forty nine, Ers, the Bucks, the Cowboys, the Texans, Commis, Chargers, Packers, Dolphins.
Every one of those teams aspires to be a playoff team. Yeah,
and you wouldn't be shocked if any of them made it.

(01:08:58):
I think Miami's probably might be the most. But then
it's I mean, the rest of this it's so I
guess the point here is if you have if you're
on this list, it's a good list.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
To be on.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
If you have a an elite triplet, you got.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
A good team.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
You're really high on the rear.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
The Raiders, well, Bwers Issers might be the best tight
end in the league by the end of next year.
And it's obviously they think Gent is going to be
a stud.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
It's a leap of faith on Gent and then you
know Gino kind of what that is. I think the Jaguars,
but maybe I'm just blind to Lawrence same.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I think they're where they are. I think the Jets
are better than where they're I think the Seahawks are
definitely better than we're the Bears one hundred. I think
Caleb Williams will be fine.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
I think they're with Swift and DJ Moore, they should
be higher on this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
With DJ Moore, I mean that's gonna be like the
Patriots are sneaky good. If good, Drake may is good.
I think Diggs is. I don't think Diggs is what
Diggs was at this point. Travion's good. I think that
the Seahawks Darnold coming off of the season, he had
Kenneth Walker and Jackson Smith and Jig was pretty good. Look,
I mean we're like this is I hate this. We're

(01:10:11):
in our own tier. But if that's the list, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Well, if that's the list, I like this better than
the Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yeah, Unfortunately, we just don't know about it. We just
don't have the middle of that. Yeah, probably right now.
Kenny Pickett, Jerome Ford, Jerry Judy. Yeah, if you're really
doing it, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
So the last group here is Giants with Russell Wilson, Tyrone,
Tracy Junior, Molik Neighbors. That's better than the Titans with
cam Ward, Tony Pollard and Calvin Ridley. The Panthers with
Bryce Young, Chuba Hubbard and Tatoria McMillan.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I like the Panthers group.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
I think Young will bounce back and McMillan's a stud.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
And yeah, it was good down the stretch he was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Yeah, he had a really good last last half of
the season. Colts Daniel Jones, Jonathan Taylor, and Michael Pittman Junior.
And then Saints Tyler Uck, Alvin Kamara, Chris A.

Speaker 6 (01:11:02):
Lava.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Did you guys just print this off of whatever they had?

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
Well, we printed it because I think CBS went from
worst first.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Got it, got it, got to reorganize it. Yeah, but
they so they spelled Michael Pittman's name wrong. Well that's
how I was asking.

Speaker 4 (01:11:18):
Yeah, and then us last with Flacco, Judkins and Judy
on the list. So if you if you have, if
you're high ranked on this list, you got a good team.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
I mean, it's it's it's kind of that simple is
the way that it shakes out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Interesting that for the Texans they put Joe Mixon over
Nick Chubb is the running back and he was very
good last year. He was their starter. So on that level,
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Have you heard anything from I've seen Nick and you
know from I mean, I know they're just reporting, but
I mean I've seen him be signed, through some of
the workout stuff, but I haven't heard anything in terms
of how it's going for him down There is obviously
root for him, I think, Yeah, I think you're right.
I think the number the one that's probably the most
balanced best is Philly. They have a top ten quarterback,

(01:12:02):
the number one running back, and A J. Brown's for
sure a top ten receiver. Bengals have a top four quarterback,
a top two receiver, and then Chase Brown. Ravens have
a top four quarterback, top two running back, and then
Zay Flowers. Yep, but Jay Flowers is better than Chase Brown,
you think or.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
No, but Jay Flowers is better than Chase Brown. I
do think. That's what I think too. I think the
Lions one is actually should be higher. That's I think
they should keep going that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
It just might be people don't respect golf the way
that they should.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, because Gibbs is darn goodding. I'm on around Saint
Brown as a machine. Yeah, I mean those three.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
I'll be issuing to see what they do new coordinators.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
That's well, that's when that's where it's hard for teams.
Can they keep it going? Golf last year seventy two
percent completions, forty six hundred yards, thirty seven touchdowns, twelve
rating of one hundred and eleven point eight was fifth
in the MVP voting. And then you, i'm enra I
bet he was like fourteen hundred would be my guess.
I'm enra one fifteen for twelve sixty three and twelve touchdowns.

(01:13:15):
Gibbs had two thousand total yards and twenty total touchdowns
to lead the league. They should be in the first year. Yeah,
they should be in the first year. That's my really
only big that's my big righte I'MNRA was first team
All Pro. They had three people in the top eleven
in the Offensive Player of the Year voting. How crazy

(01:13:36):
is that? That's pretty crazy on their team, Gibbs, i'm
ENRA and God. I bet in fact, I'd go so
far as to say they're the only team on this
list that can make that claim. Yeah, I think that's
probably correct.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Offensive Player of the Year voting. Sequan one, Jamar Chase
was two. I mean, Lamar Jackson was too. Jamar Chase
was three, Derrick Henry was four, Joe Burrow was five.
That's pretty easy. Josh Allen, Jefferson, Gibbs, Goff, Kyron, i'm

(01:14:11):
on Ross, Saint Brown. Yeah, all three three in the
top eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
It's pretty good, are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Chris Rose?

Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
Next?

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
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(01:15:16):
to you. You can have the Stallone catalog or the
Schwarzenegger catalog, but only one. Which one do you pick?

Speaker 6 (01:15:23):
I think Schwartzenegger.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
No, it's a right call.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
It's the right call that is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Couldn't agree more? You are correct, sir?

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:15:31):
Okay? Good for goodness sake. Both former best damn sports
show period guests that led.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
To very fun moments.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
Which one was the better guest?

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
They were both listen, I mean they're a A A
plus listers. Tom obviously knew Arnold from True Lies, and
so he asked him to come on the show within
like the probably the first six weeks, I would say,
when we nobody knew what we were about. They didn't
know what the heck you know. He joined us, though,

(01:16:05):
and did everything we asked. He did fun skits, he
did comedy, he did a great interview, the whole bit.
But Stallone was hilarious. Booger McFarlane was a guest host
that day. He was still playing for I Want to
Stay for Tampa and he says, you know, I took
a date to throw mama from the train. He's like,

(01:16:30):
I went, and before he could finish his line, Stallone
reached into his pocket and said, here's forty bucks. By
that he got it. It was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
That is excellent. We should also adds good when you're
listing Chris's accolades, of which there are many tremendous user
of unique microphones, we know that part is well documented. Yes,
but also.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
Okay, seriously, right, guys, for God's sakes, bo I was
listening to this the other day and he dragged you
down the mucky river about him for doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
And I'm sure you right now, the guys like.

Speaker 6 (01:17:14):
A little bit. I mean, geez, holy don't turn around
you in your words, let's go. We're representing a fine organization.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Clean it up, Yes we are.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
I also want to say, you know what you're talking
about what needs to be cleaned? You clean like an
ISO came for that he certain shape.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
It was a different shape for a microphone.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
If he if Joey and had no problem with it,
then you two can move on as well. Give me,
I'm not so sure he's all right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Thank you. I appreciate a lost cause, So, Chris. I
also spend some time across upon the summer working on
a show that's coming back.

Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
It's gonna be a big deal, big deal with a
comic Gladiators.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Is that's right, We're coming back.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
Oh yes, on Amazon Prime. It'll be out at some
point early twenty twenty six. For those of you that
haven't seen it, go spin up the old clips on YouTube.
Not the two thousand and eight version. I'm talking from
nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
To the original Dick Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
Yeah, when the likes of Mike Adam Lee and Larry
Zanga were broadcasting it. So we paid homage certainly to
the yesteryear of American Gladiators and also broke out a
bunch of new events. Gladiators good people, fun, likely more
muscular than yours truly, and the contenders were great barely Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
So that is I was just gonna ask, are you
the Mike Adamley character, and are you playing the role
of Mike Adamley in this and what's crazy is I
own as a kid, I only knew Adam Lee from Gladiators.
I didn't know him as a former player or that
he played it north he played at Northwestern. I think
Chris trick me if I'm wrong on there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
So brief stint as a WWE announcer and botched like
three names and mcmahonson's fire, You're fired. That's it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
But in college I did like a two two work internship.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
In Chicago, and he was a local Chicago TV guy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Yeah, even still years later, So yeah, oh that's cool
man Congress, that's fun.

Speaker 6 (01:19:22):
Yeah, it was a blast. So I call all the events. Uh.
Nathan's good friend the Miz is the host, along with
a woman named Roxy Diaz. She's on Good Morning America.
So does a show with Dion And you know, we
had a great time together. It was a lot of work.
We we crammed in a couple of seasons over about

(01:19:44):
a three week shooting period, so there wasn't a lot
of late night frolicking around you know the defense. Yeah, no, no,
not a lot of that. A lot of work and
hopefully the product will be good. So I can't wait,
but I'm more excited about what's going on. Let's see,
what are we two weeks from Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
Yeah? That's right, baby.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Do you ever we've been We've all of a certain
age and we've been at this for a long time,
and it seems amazing to me, like it feels like
we blink and we were just doing this and then
here we are again, another season and away we go,
and you just put one foot in front of another
and you wake up and you're at the combine. You're like,
what just happened? That's my experience with football season. You've

(01:20:29):
been doing this a long time. Do you have a
similar experience with the just the massive scope of the
football season now?

Speaker 6 (01:20:40):
Yeah, Because I don't know exactly when the NFL adopted
the motto there is no off season, but that is true,
right we go right Super Bowl to the combine. It
feels like the window gets tighter and tighter every year.
But it's it's about twelve to fourteen days after Super

(01:21:03):
Bowl Sunday, we get that thing rolling in Indianapolis, and
then right after that is the start of the league year,
and then right after that we're into Pro Days. And
then right after that we're into the draft, and right
after that we're into rookie Mini camp, and right after
that we're in the mandatory mini camp, and then everybody

(01:21:23):
gets to take about a three and a half week nap,
and then here we are. I mean it's not even
truly the end of July and camps are full throttle
going tomorrow. So yeah, it's great, it's fun. I'll be
out at RAMS camp for Back Together Saturday on NFL
Network this weekend with our buddy MJD. Nice, so I'll

(01:21:45):
get a good look at our third preseason opponent up close.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
When you kind of think about this camp, it feels
to me like it's got as many storylines, obviously the
biggest at the quarterback position as we've had in a
long time. There actually are a great deal of unknowns here.
What are you excited about getting your eyes on as
we get ready? And I think a preseason that has
the chance to be unlike any that we've had in
recent memory, where you can go got three quarterbacks who

(01:22:12):
probably need to play a lot in the preseason. You know,
Joe Flacco I think could roll out of bed as
he did literally off the couch in LA. All those
a couple of years ago, But are you excited about
that prospect? Just how different that is going to be.

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
Well, as I prepped for our first game against the
Carolina Panthers, I am learning the names Ethan Garber's and
Jack Plumber. Those are not Jador Standers and Dylan Gabriel. No,
no disrespect to those men who played at UCLA and Louisville, respectively,
But every snap is critical, Every snap means something. And Nathan,

(01:22:54):
you've called these games now long enough where when you
get to the third and fourth quarter of some of
these you're like only smokes, like, I'm not so sure
that guy could start at our Turkey Day Bowlgie, you
know the family, But here you could make a legitimate argument.
I know that they don't want to start the young
guys out the gate, I get it, but you could

(01:23:16):
make a legitimate argument that any of those four quarterbacks
could be maybe not the starter week one, but week nine. Well,
where everything is important for the future of this franchise
and decision making going forward. So it's really I'm not
just saying this because I'm calling the preseason games. It's

(01:23:39):
really must watch football. It's the most important storylines of
the preseason are happening with the Cleveland Browns, and I
firmly believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Well, I was just going to say, and you, guys
both have done through the year's an incredibly professional job
of calling back end of preseason games. But I've got
some news for both of you. A great many people
weren't necessarily watching or listening to what you were calling
because it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
That's didn't matter. That's like your opinion. Man. I'm sorry, guys,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:24:12):
I don't need to break I mean to break your hearts,
but that ain't the case this year. Boys, You're gonna
have from first kick to final whistle and a very
attentive audience because there aren't enough reps. Chris, to your point,
there aren't enough reps to get everybody equal time. So
you've got four quarterbacks who need a ton of reps,
who need a ton of game like situations. Everything's being

(01:24:34):
judged every preseason snap offensively matters.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:24:39):
We've never been able to truly say that before, but
that's the case now.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
No, And and let's be honest here, because we're coming
off the season that we're coming off of the offense
at times. Last year was a challenge to watch for
Browns fans. And I'm not saying anything that the Browns
don't know. The numbers don't lie. Now, did the team
look significantly better when Jamis came in and moved the

(01:25:03):
ball against the top notch Denver defense on a Monday night?
Like that was even though we lost, and even though
he occasionally threw the ball to the other team, that
was like an enjoyable game for us. I'm not saying
that like, yes, we should get a participation trophy or anything,
but based on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
The WHATNA yes it watch.

Speaker 6 (01:25:25):
So we need to be able to the Browns need
to be able to resuscitate that energy into the fan
base and feel like we're making progress. And it does start.
I really believe with Kevin Stefanski and his coaching staff
setting a better tempo during training camp, I think it's

(01:25:45):
really important. I hope that that the one joint practice
they're going to get with the Panthers and the two
they're going to get with the defending Super Bowl champion
Eagles will kind of show them that, hey, we got
to crank it up a notch a little bit earlier
this year, and those games on Friday, Saturday and Saturday
during the preseason can be a little bit of a

(01:26:06):
litmus test to show the fans that we mean a
little something here energy wise, I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Think to your point, I think it's imperative, and I
also think it is going to happen. I think that
this is going to be a training camp that is longer,
that is more physical. I think the Browns have made
a lot of decisions in the past based on what
they believed was going to lead to better player health.
And I think the Browns did everything last year that

(01:26:34):
you could possibly have done and had one of the
more injury riddled seasons of any team in the league.
And I think you've got to be callous, you've got
to be hard, and you've got to be ready to go.
And you know, unlike last year where you didn't have,
you know, an AFC North game until well in the season,
you've got two right out of the gate. You've got
three in your first six and the other three are
the NFC North. Everybody you play in the first you

(01:26:57):
know six games, won at least nine games last year,
if not ten, I can't remember the Bengals won ten.
Maybe I think they just missed the playoffs, but everybody
won the other one's all won double digits, So you've
got to be ready to go. I'm with you. I
think this is going to be and that's going to be.
The balance is going to be finding when do we
end this quarterback competition, name a starter and then full

(01:27:20):
on get that person ready to play, because it is
going to be you know you're going right into it.
It is going to be tough right out of the gate, Bud,
do you have those so everybody?

Speaker 6 (01:27:31):
Yeah, yep. Well, I think the point is is that
those joint practices, they get a lot done and they
are important, and it has to be tonally somewhere between
what we've seen with with Kevin Stefanski and his coaching
staff and between fisticuffs Freddy when we had that whatever

(01:27:52):
that was in Indianapolis a bunch of years ago. So
you know, the tone can be set. You're right about
naming a quarterback. I haven't heard that question asked to
Kevin Stefanski yet. You know, I don't know if he's
gonna answer it or not, but it has to be asked,
when do you need to have a guy in place?
His answer might be, well, you know we're still working
on that, but they know the answer. They know.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
I think it'll be a few weeks. It'll be a
few weeks, yep. Do you think it will be.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Do we think it's possible that we will play that
final preseason game without knowing who the starter is?

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
No, I can't believe, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:28:30):
I think you have to know. I think you have
to know. There's very few teams when they go into it.
Usually there's just two people in a quarterback derby. Here.
You can believe whatever you want if it's two, three
or four, whatever the number.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Is, but it's a derby, right, and they've got to.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
Know after that Philadelphia week, in my opinion, they have to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. When are you here?
Can't wait to see you. I know we need more.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Well, I'll be bringing microphones for all. You'll be happy
to know.

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Our wives will appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:29:08):
Yeah, and actually we you know, we're not getting to
Cleveland until probably right right before the Rams game, but
we're going to hang out for a while too. I
mean it is I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
We need too, Yeah, break bread.

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
It is baby gift and tow the whole bit forgot. Yeah,
we're going to redecorate the whole house with stuff from
Uncle krolt and Michelle Thus, Brady and Josh. That's all
sorts of stuff coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
A recent birthday for the lovely Michelle R.

Speaker 5 (01:29:42):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Yes, Happy birthday on CBD.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
For all right, buddy, we know you got to run.
We appreciate your great deal. Look forward to both in
person and on a television very very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
I can't wait to embrace you.

Speaker 6 (01:29:54):
Cannot wait, boys, it is. It's always a blast catching up.
And by the way, that's a uh that's a clean
looking graphic of me that you used on the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
It's look at that. Look at that. Yeah, youthful exuberance
right there.

Speaker 6 (01:30:08):
Makes me want to shave my beard when I look
at that. But I think I'm going to hang on
to it a few more.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
We're all hanging out the bears.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
Very good.

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Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
All right, there you go, kids, that's a show. Boys
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Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Hey, we'll have a practice tomorrow. It'll be after we're done,
but there will be a.

Speaker 11 (01:30:57):
Practice tomorrow and then the first open practice Friday. So
just cranks tomorrow and Thursday Thursday two. Yeah, but those
are both closed and then the first one that's open
is Friday. Are they open to the media?

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Give?

Speaker 5 (01:31:09):
Oh? Yeah, availability of twelve fifty tomorrow kids.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Oh, we have a little podium, A little podium, time ods,
little pads. I have a good post. Well, sweat of
media is then I feel like somebody could meander their
way right on up here. Give oh.

Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
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