October 2, 2025 • 44 mins
On this Thursday edition of the program, hear from Nathan and Browns play-by-play voice Andrew Siciliano with the first updates from London (16:24). You'll also get this week's Matchups with the Minnesota Vikings (34:20) and this week's Fantasy Minute (38:40).
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, let's you alive on a Thursday edition of Cleveland
Browns Daily. I am merely Bo.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That is Timas Powell. What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Bo?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
How you doing? Buddy?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
You know, look at you and me.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Let's look at us like old times again. Here we are.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're all back. Z and Siciliana will join this momentarily
as they are across the Pond in London, which I
found out that mister Siciliana does not like the term
across the pond.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
He's the second person I heard Aya who said that
I was doing the Cleveland Show and somebody else said,
say anything they don't like across the pond.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I don't don't get why they don't like that.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, are they from England?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But what do you care?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Have you adopted the Atlantic Ocean?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I don't. How do you take offense? I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We are with you until three o'clock today when the
Guardians will take on the Tigers in a winner take
all game three in the in the wild card round.
So you have a truncated edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.
I can tell you the team landed in London this morning.
We're gonna get those updates from you here momentarily and
some updates in terms of availabilities and so forth on
our side of thing. Just to close walkthrough for us today,
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only DNP yesterday was Miles Garrett with the ankle. That's
I'm sure veteran. Nothing to really be too worried about there. Kevin'
Spance confirmed yesterday that his injury occurred in the Lions
game over the weekend. Meantime, on Minnesota sided things in
preparation for the game Sunday at Tottenham Hofser Stadium. Quarterback
JJ McCarthy did not practice today, nor did backup center
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Michael Jordens. With starting center Ryan Kelly and concussion protocol,
the Vikings will be down to their third string center
in Blake Brandle. Crazy thing here is Minnesota's at like
three starters on their offensive front and they are trying
out people at center.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Yeah, that's against this D line. That's right, that is
the worst time to be doing it. Yeah, that's we
definitely should take advantage of that. That's I would imagine
Jim Schwartz dow something up. Maybe we see Miles play
a little.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Inside this game. I mean that would be nice.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But you remember him doing the basketball moves? Yeah, yeah,
hit the euro step through yeah, I mean I think
all of those things are in play. Look, this league
right now is walking wounded. We have had catastrophic injuries
to faces of the league bright young players. The one
thing though, that I think is a consistent and I
don't this isn't any fixes, not a quick fix. There
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are not enough quality offensive lineman playing football anymore. They
just aren't.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Is it that? Or is the D line just that?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Good things both?
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Yeah, because we're talking about some freaks at the D
line spot now, Like these guys are super athletic nowadays,
and it's very hard for these offensive linemen to be
able to keep up with those guys. I mean you
talk about speed and power that these guys have, Like
Miles Garrett is of one of one you telling me
you want somebody to try to block you, and then
when your starter goes down, now you're asking your backup
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to do it.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think it's just a it's a big tall order.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Now on these offensive linemen, I wonder if we'll ever
get to a point where maybe we see them slim
down a little bit to try to keep up.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So, very good question. So my theory on it is
twofold number one. I always follow the money on anything, right,
and so what we've seen in the last decade. Obviously,
defensive ends paid at a premium. Tackle is played at
a premium, yes, But what we've seen the last decade,
and I think Aaron Donald's a big part of it,
among others, is you've seen interior defensive linemen be compensated
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at a very very high level. And so if you
are a big body boy and all of a sudden
you're saying which side should I choose, defense, I'm going
defense plus defense. You get to hit people, it's more fun,
it's more glamorous, it's all those things. So, like, I
think that's part of it, and then I think the
other parts what you just said, we have never had
athletes like we have currently at defensive end the way
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we have them in this league, and you just I mean,
Miles is the apex of it. But you think of TJ.
I mean, there's so many guys out there, Pars and
some many of these guys who are just freak athletes
come around the edge and and it's just so when
that first rung of guy goes out, the drop off
is massive.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yes, I mean it's like that all I wouldn't say
it like that.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
The corners can be like that as well, where you
have that guy as a one of one and if
he goes out and now you're scrambling around trying to
find another guy that can be adequate in that game.
So it is something that happens all over the field,
but it is the biggest difference on that offensive line.
You it cause it changes the entire game plan. If
we can't block that guy, we can't run those plays.
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So it's it's massive and they got to find a
way to get depth at that position.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
All right. The big news of the week around here
is the change at quarterback from Joe Flacco to Dylan Gabriel.
What was your view of the timing of the switch
from Flacco to Gabriel and what do you expect Kevin
to do with Dylan Sunday that maybe he wasn't unable
to get done with Joe before that.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Well, I don't want to pat myself on the back,
but I predicted it. Ever stopped you before I predicted it.
I said that the London game against the Vikers would
be the game that they would make the switch.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I know people put a lot of stock in the
fact that it's over in London and all those things,
but I don't. I treat this like it's a normal
game week, and I think he Dylan will as well,
and I think the organization would treat as the same.
It's just the regular game week. It's not like he
hasn't been in quarterback meetings. It's not like he han't
seen game plans in all of those things. It's not
like those coaches aren't asking Dylan questions in those meetings
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about what we're going to do in the game. So
I think he's going to be prepared for I think
that the difference that we'll see is maybe with the
with the tackle situation, maybe now we get some more mobility,
Now we can roll the quarterback out a little bit.
Maybe we can get those boots back in there if
we do decide to go under center. But I just
I see that pocket moving a lot. You know, I
was thinking about a guy like Kyler Murray and the Cardinals.
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Kyler Murray has been he's been decent in his NFL career,
but they're running the same offense that the Cleveland Browns
will be running. So, you know, if the height is
not a problem for a guy like Kyler Murray, and
I don't think he should be a problem for a
guy like Dylan Gabriel. And it's not like he hasn't
been dealing with this his entire career. Everybody act like, oh,
he got to the NFL and like this the first
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time you go go against all people. He's literally done
deal with his entire career. So I think he has
a plan and I think he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, And I think if you think about how you
get to this point, you we haven't scored twenty points
in a non Javis Winston quarterback game since the twenty Yeah,
it's been a long time. So it just it hasn't
worked offensively. It wasn't all Joe's fault, far from it.
Our tackle situation up until this point because of injury
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is real. It's a problem, and it's a swinging gait.
And so when you're talking about now a forty year
old man, and you're talking about in the NFL, a
game of milliseconds, it can be the difference if you
get it out or if you don't, or if you
can buy a half second a time, or if you can't.
And Joe just isn't able to do that anymore with
what's happened with our offense. The other thing that you're
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gonna have to do with this offense you mentioned moving
the pocket. The other thing is the ball's going to
come out quick.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And the way that Kevin designs all of this and
the reason when two time NFL Coach of the Year
twice is because he puts you in a position to
flip your head and spin it to a spot and
that spot to be open. That's the job, and that's
what Dylan did. Dylan can do that. He did that
at Oklahoma, he did it or Oregon. He gets it
out quick. He's ultra bright, and he is as student
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of the game as much as you're ever going to find.
He will be prepared for whatever Brian Flores throws at him. Now,
I don't know if he'll execute all of it because
he's never been in the spot. It's not like this.
It'd be some jitters there for sure, and it may
first start. Absolutely. I'm with you, though. I actually think
the timing of it's really nice because Dylan Gabriel, his
quarterback sixty, started sixty games in college football. Every one
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of those seasons ended with a bowl game. This kind
of feels like a bowl game.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, it's funny you bring that up.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
So I was looking at the Great Bill par Sales
and they put out he had like seven rules that
he looked for when he went to draft a quarterback.
Do you know Dylan Gabriel checks all seven of them.
You want to hear what they are?
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So the number one thing must be a senior. Check.
He must be a.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Three year starter. Check graduated from college. I'm gonna assume
he was there for six years. He probably did multiple
Number four start at least thirty games. Check double that
win twenty three of those games. Check post a two
to one touchdown interception ratio. Check, and lastly, complete at
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least sixty of his passes check with Flying Colors and
that's Hall of Fame coach Bill Parceales.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah he is. He has played a lot of football.
And if you think of the guys in recent years
who have come in and played right away and been successful,
whether it's Bonis or Jayden Daniels, a lot of these guys.
Even Drake May who came in towards the end of
last year, is off to a nice start to a
season this year. Brock Purty with San Francisco. What you
get is the guys that have had a lot of
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the success right away are guys who played a ton
of football. Even Jackson Dart last week. He started a
lot of games at Ole Miss and this's a massive
transition to the NFL, but he's played a lot of football.
Dylan Gabriel has played a ton of football, and I think,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I just I'm interested to see.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I'm not so much worried about Dylan Gabriel because he
does come off as a guy that's gonna be confident,
he's gonna be calm, and he's gonna be poise. I
oh yeah, I'm wondering who's steps up for him, you know,
Even with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
We've had guys drop the ball.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You know, That's why we can't always put it all
on Joe for the offense not looking as great. It
was times that Jerry Judy dropped the ball or Harrold
Fanning dropped the ball, like it's been guys doing that. So,
knowing that you're transitioning to this young guy, I wonder
what veteran says, you know what, I'm gonna step up today.
I'm gonna make those plays because completions equals confidence. The
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more that Dylan Gabriel completes that ball, the more confident
he will be in the rest of that game. So
those veterans actually did David the joke, who's Jerry Judy, Bond,
Haro fan all those guys have to step up and
make those plays because it's going to help Dylan settle in.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think the other thing that's gonna help him settle
in is the Minnesota's defense. Well great, they have been
susceptible to the ground game. Yeah, so I would assume
a steady diet of number ten is in the makings
for Sunday and in a big way. And I think
the other thing that you could see is I think
when you're thinking about getting it out quick. One thing
we haven't been as good at the last couple of
weeks as were week one is getting it to the backs.
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Like I'm curious to Samson have a bigger role catching
passes out of the backfield or Jerome Ford or even
Q and then Fannin in chief chief has been pretty
quiet to start this season. Do we see some plays
from him getting the ball up quickly?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
That's the guy that I'm really trying to figure out.
Is he going to be the X factor in this game?
Because you know, I don't know if Harrison Smith is
healthy or not, but he's getting older and if you're
putting him in man the man situations nowadays, I think
David njok who should be able to get that. Obviously
we run a ton of twelve personnel, which is what
I like. Can it force them to play bass? Now
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you got linebackers checking these two athletic tight ends. I
do believe that that can be the difference makers of
a game. And another guy, Jamari Thrash. I know it
was in the preseason, but that was the guy that
Dylan Gabriel was very comfortable going to.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
He's a slot receiver. He can line up and make
some plays.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I'm curious to see if that chemistry is still there
from the preseason.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
My hunches that will I love. That's an astutid point
out of you. If you remember when Bake first got
in a lot of his early targets. Well, but also
Hollywood Higgins.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh yeah, yeah they had.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
They did, and where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Camp?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
There was familiarity, they worked together, they work Yeah, so
then you know, obviously through to Jervis lot too. But
but at the beginning, Hollywood Higgins had a much bigger
role than he had had previously because there was that
familiarity was there. Let me ask you this, how would
you as a player? Uh, Now the team has been
over there since they got in. I guess month today
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this morning in London, they've already done a walk through.
What is your sense of how you would handle a
five hour time change on a game?
Speaker 6 (12:45):
The hardest part is going to sleep. So how I
would do it is? Did they catch a red eye?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah? They flew through the night, flew last night.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So the best way to transition your body to that
time is to sleep on the plane and then just
stay up for that day. And then go to sleep
that night at a reason of the all time, nine o'clock,
eight o'clock, whatever time is.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Going to be.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
That's the best way to get your body acclimated to
that time change, because anything else, you're gonna be either
up later or you're gonna go to sleep way too early.
So I think for them, the best plan would have
been sleep on the plane, which is gonna be very
hard to do. You got to grind it through today.
They did a walk through today, yep, So it wasn't
gonna be a hard.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Day on your body. Grind through the day, get a
good sleep tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
When you were with Seattle and you guys would play
East Coast, that's a three hour difference. How much was
that effect?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Well, it was always nice to go two days earlier,
so you have that whole day to get your body acclimated.
We usually get there by the time we land, because
we would leave after a Friday practice, so we're leaving
anywhere from three o'clock Pacific time. By the time we land,
it's like eight or nine o'clock yep, and it's.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Like, well it's time to go to bed, right.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
They'd give us like a dinner or something like that,
and then it's like, well, time to go to bed
and try to get our bodies acclimated.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
So if people were pretty good at that.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Me, I tried to keep myself on Easter Standard time
even when I went out there, because if I needed
the extra time, I would wake up at three o'clock
over there, But it's six o'clock to me, like, if
I'm steel tired, I can go to sleep for three
more hours I've wanted to. So I did a really
good job of keeping my body actually set on Eastern
Standard time.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Do you think there's an advantage to Minnesota already being
over there?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I mean obviously yeah, because they are already their bodies
as acclimated. They know what to expect. This isn't their
first game out of the country. You know, they've went
through this, so you know this is not foreign to
them to where where the Browns will have that like, Okay,
we can't do this, or we can and cannot do that.
We need to be prepared for the game. This is
the best way to get ourselves prepared. They don't know
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that because they haven't gone through that to where Minnesota has.
They was like, all right, last week I did this
and it worked for me, or this didn't work for me.
So they got that going for them. But at the
end of the day, I don't. It should be fine,
The Browns will be fine.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You ever been to one?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
No, But you know the funny thing is, so when
I was here in twenty seventeen, right from my cup
of t OTAs, I believe that they were going to
play overseas that year.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Unfortunately I gained twenty pounds and I wasn't as fast
as I once was, and I was not as good
as I once was, so I didn't make it.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I think it's yeah, I think it's probably it's one
of those things as a player that you see it
on the schedule and go, oh god, yeah. But once
they're there, oh, I bet you get a shot of
adrenaline and you're doing the beefeaters and you're on the rest.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You've never been there before.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
It's like it's not a vacation because you're still there
on a business trip. But I'm the good good organization
gives you a little time to go out and explore
a little bit, go go get about an hour or
to go see something, come back, just get it out
of your system unless locky.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Not quite the way like a bowl game would be.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
No like that, like a whole week, the whole week.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Maybe like college football playoff field too, where you get
a little bit of that. That's probably the way that
it's going to go. Those are the hot topics of
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What's happening fellas?
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Thanks guys you're doing are yeah buddy London, England, Well
not really London, England, the outskirts of London.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Ingl believe technically it's Watford.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
It is Watford. Yeah, yes, there you go, Watford. Here
we are, long night.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
How you feeling? You know, I felt better, like you
got run over by a golf cart.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, I felt better.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
What I want to just get out right off the top,
because I think it's important to do so. Is we're
flying as a team, like we all know each other. Sure,
this isn't like flying on a Red Eye with a
bunch of strangers. And I don't know who made the
idea now that nobody can recline their seats, I think
it's absurd.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
I think everybody should be allowed to recline their seats.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Everybody reclined, but there.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Was no emil.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
There was no email that went out that said don't recline.
I am one of the people that says, there's a
button on that arm rest for a reason, everybody's allowed
to put the armres back. And I get people yelling
at me, saying, wait, I'm six foot four. You shouldn't
do that. You're you're a tiny person. Why would you
You don't get it.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Like, I don't care.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
There's a button, move it back.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
If everybody is in the reclined position, yes, it's the
same as if everybody's not in the reclined position.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yes, except we're all more comfortable.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
That's like my dad's idea that when the red light
turns to green, everybody should simultaneously hit go or hit
the gas.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
It has to be everybody should go.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
I'm like, well, Dad, then then why don't you hop
in an automated car and see how you like that?
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
They need everybody would need to be at the same speed.
Here we all have the exact same amount of recline
built into the seat. So it is we would be
in the same situation as if we weren't reclining, except
more comfortable.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
Now let me say this, Yeah, is that obviously you're
much taller than me.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
This's just in.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
I. If I can't recline the seat, it's okay, Like
I I'll survive. I prefer the seat reclined.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I certainly prefer you.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
You, as a as a taller human, probably need the
seat reclined more than that.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
And I even had a Gibbe in front of me,
and Gibbe, just because he is such a stud, forces
that seat into a reclined position. He doesn't want to
be in a reclined position. So I was double squished.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
What you said earlier.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
You didn't recline, but you're Jenna sa Qua and parts
enough parts enough force on a seat that it is back.
You were back a few inches beyond the middle seat.
And I know that because when my head was trying,
I was trying to sleep this way on my eighty
a different sleeping position like this.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Then you'd be like, that's it.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
I love how we touched down in England and you
begin speak French.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Well, that's what you listen when in Rome.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
All right, we got a football foot play, We got
a football game to play the Browns the Minnesota Vikings.
Turns out, whenever the Browns play internationally, they play the
Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Correct, I know if you know this or not, but
the first game that I ever called was the twenty
seventeen game between the Browns.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
And the Vikers. I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, Deeke was dee got sick.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
I think they pretty much told me like as I'm
getting on the plane and away we went, and we
called it in the stadium in the crowd at what
was it, Twickenham, Twickenham. Yes, we were in the crowd,
no monitors. And when I mean in the crowd. I
mean like we were in the crowd, like fans here,
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supporter here, supporters, yes, all of it. So that was
my first ever experience. So now it's to me to
come home to London full circle for Brown's vikings eight
years later.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
This game also doesn't have Joe Thomas, although we're going
to see the hoff a little bit later. That was
the first game that Joe Thomas missed, and well the
previous week was the last game of his gold jacket career.
You are That game also didn't have Miles. Miles's concussion
protocol did not make the journey.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
So would Botonio be the only one on our team?
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I would have Yeah, I guess right now you're quizzing
me maybe and Chief and Chief Wait?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yes, Chief is seventeen, Chief and Botonia.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Okay, well there you go, There we go.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Did you know that the Browns had previously played preseason
games in Montreal, Toronto and here in London.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
In eighty nine? I do, now, yeah, I was here on.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
A high school trip a week before the game in
nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
That would be that is a big ask for a.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Preseason preseason games that is a big preseason game. Is
the Philadelphia Eagles. I, as a fourteen year old, Yeah,
walked halfway across the city to find a sporting goods
store that somebody the hotel recommended that I go to
and walked in and bought a T shirt that said
Brown's Eagles Wembley.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Stadium, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Well, how about do you still have it?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I do.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
It's like threadbare, yeah, perfect, but it still fits because
I'm the same size I was when I.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Was fourteen years old.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
As we turn our attention to this game, we've got
a new quarterback, Yes, we do talk about that. Dylan
Gabriel will make his first start. You have noted he
is the first player to start their first game at
quarterback in an international game.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
And this is the very first time that Dylan Gabriel
has left the United States of America. I also did
not know he has never been out of the States
until as of about five hours ago when we landed here.
He does not have a family here, does not have
the fiance coming. Last second thing that had not planned
to make this trip. So these are my words, not
in not his. Maybe maybe a little bit of calm,
(22:03):
you know, a little focus. Sure, you're here, You're doing
the job and hopefully performs well.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
To be fair, Yes, Hawaii.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Yes, is a much further flight from Cleveland than London.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yes. And I said to him, well, Hawaii, you're also
halfway Asia. Maybe check out.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
But I said to him as a because we kind
of consider Hawaii to be the West Coast even though
it isn't, you know those of us that sometimes live
on the West Coast. And I said never, like never, Mexico,
like never, Cabo. And he's like, we have Hawaii, we
don't like, Yeah, why Hawaii is great?
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Hawaii is like, yes, it is. It's not a part
of obviously the continental United States. It is one of
the states of the fifty States.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But that is like tim bucktoo.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
Can I tell you real, real quick story many years ago,
I'm sitting at a hotel bar on the island of Kawahi.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Okay, beautiful, and I'm sitting the Garden island, Yeah, the
Garden Island.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
And the woman next to me says to the bar
town orders of my time, and the woman next to me,
they handle them my time, and she.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Goes, man, this is really really good. She goes, you know,
there's one one back home that.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
This is better though, like this is really good.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Shees, you know, I'm from the States, and the bartender
looks at her and goes, ohh, so am I.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, these are just the tropical states.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I love it. I love it all.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Right, back to football, Dylan Gabriel gets a shot. I
thought he looked really good in Baltimore in a very
short drive. Three for sure, mop up duty. The touchdown
to the other Dylan. Dylan Sampson.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
You really couldn't get a fuel for anything in Detroit
mop up duty this past week. But I think he's here.
I think he's right. I mean, I know he's here.
I think he is ready for this moment.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
Joe Flacco yesterday thought it was very gracious to Joe
to get on the podium, open locker room for five minutes.
Yesterday is a class guy, and he said, listen, Dylan's
into it. He's ready for it, like he's this is
this means something to him.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
And I think one of the reasons when you make
the trade of Kenny Pickett, what you're saying is we've
seen Dylan Gabriel operate, and we believe that he can
come and operate and.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Really that's all this team needs. Just operate the offense
and don't turn the football over.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
And let this defense, which is the number one defense
in the NFL, win you games. And let the defense,
combination of the defense and quin Shawn Judkins, who very
much appears to be on a star trajectory early in
his career. Let that be your identity. Just don't give up.
I mean you think about last week. We talked about
it on Browns Daily. The Lions and the Browns each
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had the same number of drives over sixty yards in
that game, and in fact, we have the longest eighty
eight yards. The Lions and the Browns each had the
same number of drives for more than forty yards in
that game, two apiece, and they scored thirty four points.
They had a touchdown drive of five yards, a touchdown
drive of twenty yards, They scored seventeen points off of turnovers,
and they had the punt return touchdown. So I rolled
(24:48):
quickly on mass seventeen plus seven to twenty four. They
really scored ten points, but we gave them all those points.
Just take care of the football, Dylan Gabriel. Operate the offense,
and you're talking about we've had some offensive line is
this is a Minnesota Vikings team. That is, they're getting
their holding tryouts right now. Give me I might get
a look.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Yeah, Gibby, he could get a look if you know.
He's shaking his head over there.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
The Vikings have major issues, Ryan Kelly, and you hope
the best for rehemic concussion protocol for the second time in
three weeks. So he's not going to play. He couldn't
finish the game last week in Dublin. They're number two center.
Jurgens move over there now, he's banged up. In essence,
as you said, they are having tryouts with a bunch
of practice squad guys. They like the Browns took their
practice squad here. They've got a practice and we don't
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know who their center is going to be. Donovan Jackson,
the former Buck guy, the first round pick, the rookie.
He is banged up as well.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
And then you have Brian O'Neil their right tackle.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
So the Vikings could very well be down three starting
offensive linemen and have a practice squad guard playing center.
That is not ideal. It is a great opportunity for
the Browns pass rush. The Browns whole front seven to
get after Carson Wentz, who is a turnover prone quarterback.
We all know that it all becomes really in my eye,
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it's what can the Browns do to protec Dylan Gabriel,
Because say what you want about Joe Flacco, he didn't
get a lot of protection, particularly from the two tackle positions.
That's got to change for Dylan Gabriel. Joe Flacco's sixt six.
Dylan Gabriel is not Oh, we can move the pocket
with Dylan Gabriel. Great, Yes, he is far more mobile,
but you still need to have your tackles block. And
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if Jack Conklin could come back, and if Cam Robinson,
who was on the trip acquired a couple of days
ago from the Texans, a former Viking facing his former team,
one of his former teams, if you could throw him
in there and if you could perform, then that is
a more comfortable pocket for Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
I think this game is going to be about which
one of these defenses, and they are both very good
their top ten defense. The Browns are obviously the number
one defense here, they're the number three seven overall three
against the pass. This is going to be about which
defense can have the game changing play and or plays
I think.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
To determine it.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
You mentioned Carson Wentz and Browns and beating Carson Wentz
the last two times they faced them. Five interceptions thrown
in those two games. If we can get those takeaways,
give this offense a short field, this could be a
very low scoring game. I mean, Las Vegas has one
of the lowest totals I've seen on a national football
game on this thirty seven. Okay, so they're not expecting
a lot of fireworks here. I think it's about these
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defenses and if the Browns the Vikings they do a
good job too. They're taking the football away in twenty
of their last twenty one games. That streak was snapped
actually last week in Doublin, Ireland against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
If you can control the football and your defense, I
think can go out and win you this football game.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Yeah, we're saying the same thing. Which defense wins it.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Which offensive line really can can patch something together?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Yep?
Speaker 9 (27:40):
To protect their quarterback. Carson Wentz is the veteran. He
has been here before, He's played overseas before. Dylan Gabriel
first NFL start.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
But I'm rooting for him. I thought absolutely.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
Part of the program, Kyle Brant was great this morning,
a Good Morning Football back Home on NFL Network, saying, hey, everybody,
you know what, let's roo for Dylan Gabriel or this
is a fantastic story, right, a fantastic story.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Let's let's I know I'm rooting for him. You are
as well. I think I think he's gonna do well. Yeah,
let's go get a win.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
We're gonna be all these rookies, Gabriel, Judkins fan and
Isaiah Bond just on the offensive side, Dylan Samson, it's
gonna be fun to watch, all right, storms coming in.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
We got our weather man. Give me here. I even
think maybe do I see a little bit of rain
already here? I don't know yet. Okay, all right, but
it's coming.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
But that is news. But I mean it may rain
and rain a lot tomorrow. So the Browns are scheduled
to practice outside, right, they would have to go find
a bubble down the street. There is one down the street.
It's not night a a European football bubble, yes, correct,
So they'll get it into practice, but that that may
(28:45):
affect things tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, you know you would have to think that. It
certainly would.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Is you're coming in here getting off the plane on
that red eye. Tomorrow is the really only day of
real practice for the Cleveland Browns. We'll see what that
mother nature holds up, all right, Bow and tive Us
back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Hey, g man, do you know do the do the
Premier League teams all have indoor facilities? I assume they do?
Are the best ones? They don't? Does Chelsea Arsenal? Arsenal?
Doesn't they go outside even in the rain?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So then what would be our guys problem with going
in the rain? Tavus nothing? Hit your button? Hit that button.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
There you go, man, got them asks nothing. Actually it
was you got to embrace the rain. But even for
a couple more years.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, we got some ground moving over there today on that.
That's big news, man, that's gonna be exciting real quick.
We have our injury report from practice today.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
This is a walkthrough, so it was estimated, but Tonio
not injury related. Rest was full, Malik Collins also full
due to rest. Grant delp it back full. Jack Conklin
elbow was limited again today. Miles Garrett dnp yesterday he
was limited today with that ankle. Mike Hall did not
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practice today and he's been ruled out for Sunday already.
Cornelius Lucas was full. He was not injury related as well.
Greg Newsom popped up on the injury report today with
a hamstring. He was limited. Najoku was limited yesterday. He
was a full go today estimated once again. For the Vikings,
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obviously you mentioned Donovan Jackson. He's out, he had risk surgery.
He did not practice. Jurgens, the backup center hamstring, did
not practice. Ryan Kelly still in the protocol, did not practice,
so they're gonna have to go down to a third
string center. It's looking like JJ McCarthy with that ankle,
still did not practice, so it looks like we might
have Carson Wentz on Sunday. Dallas Turner popped up on
(30:49):
the Vikings report with an illness. He did not practice today.
And Andrew Van Ginkel also did not practice. Brian O'Neil,
we know he's sprained his MCL, so he'll be out
a few weeks. So some big pieces missing from that Vikings.
Vikings team, massive pieces up front for them. I mean,
that's we talked about it off the top. Just there's
not enough offensive quality offensive linemen to go around from
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our perspective. Boy, the Conklin thing, the new Someone popped up,
and you hope that's fine, but geez, I don't know
that anyone thought Jack would be in this spot here
a month later and still here you sit with with
him with the elbow.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, it's and it's crazy because it happened in practice.
That's the part that you hate the most. Obviously, if
you wanted him to make it to Sundays. But with
Dylan Gabriel being in as a left hand, like you
want that blinds I'll protected.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
So I hoping he can get to get it together.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, my call is still out too. Obviously they didn't
anticipate that at the start of the season that he
would miss these this many games, and he's already been
ruled out. And then I mean, obviously the new Someone
is the most newsworthy and that'll be something we'll really
want to pay attention to throughout I guess for them tonight, yeah,
tomorrow morning, because I mean this, these Vikings this they
got Addison back, Yes, so now they got the best
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or one and he is the best or one A
and that Addison is probably the best. He's on a
very short list of best number two. It's like Kim Higgins.
Who else is even in that? Probably Mac now, although
Mack might be a one. Yeah, with Evans out, he
might be a one. But it's a Tay Smith, there's one. Yeah,
it's up there though.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that that that hamstring thing
is It is so delicate because you can't if it's
tweaked a little bit, like it's hard to go because
if you go to are you going to pulling the
thing and you're really going to do some damage. So
hopefully he's able to stretch, you know, phone roll it out, hydrate,
and hopefully he's feeling a little bit better because we
(32:42):
definitely need him in that secondary. You know, the corner
position is already thin, so.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
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with Dylan Gabriel and the Browns offense to have success
against this Minnesota Viking defense. Your key is what mister Powell.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Believe it or not. They need to run the ball effectively.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I think that that will open up everything, you know,
because now.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
We're bringing back that play action.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
I think it'll clear up the picture for Dylan Gabriel
in that passing attack. So if Quinn Shine and that interior,
that offensive line can do a great job of getting
those double teams getting up to that line back and
creating those seams. Quinnshine has showed you that all he
need is a little slither. He is physical after contact,
he keeps his feet moving.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You do that, those linebackers are thinking, we got to
hurry up and get up there.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Play action. Now, those over routes, that bang eight is back.
All of those things that Kevin wants to run will
be back. So we have to run the ball effectively.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
And he should run the ball effectively, and you really should.
It's the one part of their defense where you can
have success. Can Yeah, So I mean, I think that's it,
and I think with a young quarterback, and you think
about here, and you even go back to camp, and
it's so impressive how far he's come from the first
day of camp to what he was by the end
of camp, let alone when he's been over the last
(35:31):
month where we haven't seen him as much. But like,
there are certain things he's very comfortable doing, and it's
going to be really critical for Kevin and Tommy to
put him in those spots early. And the run game
is going to be a part of it, and it's
going to be play action, move the pocket, get him
on the perimeter, make easy throws. See it, rip it.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
He's good on throwing on the run. He is, and
it's a good ball on the run.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I would imagine it's a slightly different thing for a
defense to prepare for in that he's he's much more
comfortable rolling that way.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
And then the difference between him and the preseason and
now is he was just coming back from that ham
string the preseason, so we haven't really even got a
chance to see his full potential mobility wise. You know,
you're talking about if it's second and ten, if he
has to use his legs to get five yards, it's
easy to call a third and five versus third and ten.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yes, that is a game changer.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, absolutely is. So that's the word I think you're
looking for, is comfortable. Comfortable, comfortable, Get him comfortable, and
the offense should be able to hum from that point over.
The standards been very low, I mean in terms of
getting to twenty points, those type of things. It's time
to kind of break through that. On the other side
of the ball, the Browns defense must win against Minnesota's
offense in which category on Sunday, Oh.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
You know, that defensive line has to take advantage of
the fact that that offensive line is dealing with some injury.
We talked about Donovan Jackson being out go Bucks. We
talked about how the center, they're gonna be down to
their third string center. So now you could do some things.
Our defensive tackle has been playing really well, Mason Graham.
Elite Collins have been wrecking shot this entire season. Now
(37:01):
you try to put some twists in there, maybe throw
Miles in there. That's scary, Carl. Don't let Carson Wentz
get comfortable in this game, because he do have some
guys on the outside that can make some plays, and
they will make some plays, but let's limit those opportunities
by being able to get to that quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I just think about the constant duress he is going
to be under on Sunday with this front. He threw
for three hundred and fifty yards last week. He did
have two picks, yeah, but he threw for three point fifty.
Addison went over one hundred. Jefferson was just under it.
That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Well.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I hope that if the ball's gonna be in there,
we need to get more takeaways. I think we were
thirty first in takeaways. Well, we got one pick to
two turnovers. Say quiet, yeah, that's the one thing on
this defense that I would challenge. If the ball's gonna
be in the air and they're gonna turn this thing
into a seven on seven, let's make some plays. That
ball go up, it's ours, Let's go get something. Let's
change the game. Let's help our offense out. You want
(37:54):
to help the young guy, give him the ball on
the ten yard line posed to him. Have to march
his seventy five yards, same thing you did with Joe
Flacco to win that game against the Packers.
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We go back across the pond to Duck to z.
All right, hello, you're doing.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
What's the pond?
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Let's get you ready for your fantasy football games here
this weekend. We're gonna start with the defensive side of
the football because that is where you can kind of
get that week to week streamer. And we've given you
some good ones so far this season. I think you
could go tonight with the La Ram. The Niners are
banged up bigly. No pearsall, no brock Party, no Kittle,
(39:07):
no Juwan Jennings. I think the Rams are gonna have
a field. They plus their lines pretty banged up. I
like the Rams. There some other defenses that I think
you can pick up and play. The Chiefs have been
playing very well. The Colts have been playing very well.
I like both of those defenses as well. All right,
quarterbacks this week, and we had quarterback injuries. Now you're
kind of scrambling. You thought you had Lamar Jackson or
Joe Burrow. You were just set well you're not just
(39:28):
set Daniel Jones. If you have not gotten him yet,
go get him. He should be starting for your football teams.
Jackson Dart against the New Orleans Saints. I think is
a very good start because of what he does with
his legs. And then I think you look at Sam Darnold.
I like the way that he's played of late. You
can get him in your lineups there at the quarterback position.
Running backs, Let's go with our guy right now. Let's
talk about our guy, Quinn John Jenkins must start every
(39:51):
single week. The guy is an absolute must start for
you every single week. So get him in your lineup.
If you need to pick somebody up PPR League, Mari
de Mercado, Non PPR League, Carter Arizona. They're going against Tennessee.
That's a game where they should be dominant. Tennessee is
struggling this year. So I think that you're talking about
somebody right there that's got a very good opportunity to
step in and be a flex option for you this week.
(40:14):
Cam Scattabo, who has reached much start every week's status.
Brece Hall now with Braylan Allen out let him roll.
And then there's our guy Woodrow Marx Woodie Marx. Get
him in your lineups and I think he'll be very
pleased with what you see. Really started to take over
last week for Nick Chubb. So that's somebody that you
want to have in your lineups. Quinton Johnston, he's been
a must start so far all year. Jalen Waddle, I
(40:35):
like him now with Tyreek Hill out, he's got to
get more opportunities. If you can trade for Ladi McConkie
in your leagues, go ahead and try to make that deal.
I think that he is undervalued right now because frankly
he has not been very good. Same thing with AJ Brown,
saying thing with Brian Thomas. If you can go out
and get those guys, go out and get them. I
think they're going to help your teams down the stretch
and then at the tight end possession this week.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Darren Waller, if he's on your waiver wire, give him
a look.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Two touchdowns guy to play football in the years, two
touch downs right out of the gate. Ferguson in Dallas
has really kind of become their de facto number one receiver,
and then Breton's strange down in Jacksonville. He has been
very solid this season, especially in a PPR league back
to back weeks with six catches. He's had at least
three catches in every game so far this season. So
(41:17):
that's your look at some guys help you win your
fantasy football games.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
Here in week number five.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
There you go doctor Z in London with your fantasy minute.
You play fantasy football.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I do. I'm in three leagues.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
First time?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Is this your first time?
Speaker 6 (41:32):
No, you've done it for it's been I think this
is my third year playing fantasy.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
My boys are in it, and which you No, they
can't afford my league. They're I only play in one.
They so they're in it, and it's so funny to
hear them try to understand how it is. So for example,
Beamsy has Cede Lamb. Okay, so Ceede Lamb gets hurt
(41:58):
in the first quart of the game two weeks ago, right,
so he's like, Dad, I want to pull Cede Lamb
out too late.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
I sayd you locked in.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
He's like, he said, what do you mean he's hurt.
I'm like, I understand it. Okay, I understand it. We
all understand.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
You lost this week, You're out.
Speaker 8 (42:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, And then like he was so fired up about
who is the player? Who was he was so mad
about oh a Marion Hampton. Okay, so slow start to
the season. You want to cut him. It's funny because
I got him. I felt the same way. So he's like,
cut him, cut him, cut him. So I'm like, like, dude,
(42:34):
don't be patient. Be patient. It's a long year.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
The thing about fantasy is this, if you're going to
win your fantasy leader's two ways to do it. One
you have to get that quarterback wide receiver duo. You
get that going for them points. And you have to
hit on one.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Of the rookies. I think that's the key.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
If you get the rookie running back or that rookie
wide receiver like a mecca. You got a mecca right now,
your cris which I do on one of my teams.
I got A and Baker, So I'm getting that connection double.
I'm just rolling yeah, four and oh. In that league,
that's what that's where you get to take off.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
We got a one in year old stomping grounds the
Rams and Niners. You spend time with the forty nine ers.
Did you ever get to the Rams?
Speaker 10 (43:12):
No?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
I never made it to the Rams. Ironically, I was
about to go to the Cards. So this is what happened.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
I got cut from San Fran and I was back
at home for a couple of weeks. I was on
the plane headed to Arizona to do a workout. I
landed in Arizona. When I landed, my agent called me
and said, hey, Sam Fran wants to sign you to
the active roster. I call Arizona said I'm going back.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I'm going straight back to the Bay.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
It is the forty nine ers at the Rams. Who
do you got tonight, buddy.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Sam Frang got too many injuries. I'm gonna go with
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
I uh, I see it the same way you do.
I know doctor Z does too. On a Thursday, remember
a Thursday edition, I just feel poor old Niners, no Purty,
no Nick Bosa, everybody out. I just it's Rams by
a billion and a half. I mean this. I think
the score in this one could be like ninety one
to two. I think it's in play. So enjoy your
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Bo?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
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Speaker 5 (00:50):
You know, look at you and me.
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Let's look at us like old times again. Here we are.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're all back. Z and Siciliana will join this momentarily
as they are across the Pond in London, which I
found out that mister Siciliana does not like the term
across the pond.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
He's the second person I heard Aya who said that
I was doing the Cleveland Show and somebody else said,
say anything they don't like across the pond.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I don't don't get why they don't like that.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, are they from England?
Speaker 6 (01:17):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But what do you care?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Have you adopted the Atlantic Ocean?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I don't. How do you take offense? I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We are with you until three o'clock today when the
Guardians will take on the Tigers in a winner take
all game three in the in the wild card round.
So you have a truncated edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.
I can tell you the team landed in London this morning.
We're gonna get those updates from you here momentarily and
some updates in terms of availabilities and so forth on
our side of thing. Just to close walkthrough for us today,
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only DNP yesterday was Miles Garrett with the ankle. That's
I'm sure veteran. Nothing to really be too worried about there. Kevin'
Spance confirmed yesterday that his injury occurred in the Lions
game over the weekend. Meantime, on Minnesota sided things in
preparation for the game Sunday at Tottenham Hofser Stadium. Quarterback
JJ McCarthy did not practice today, nor did backup center
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Michael Jordens. With starting center Ryan Kelly and concussion protocol,
the Vikings will be down to their third string center
in Blake Brandle. Crazy thing here is Minnesota's at like
three starters on their offensive front and they are trying
out people at center.
Speaker 6 (02:24):
Yeah, that's against this D line. That's right, that is
the worst time to be doing it. Yeah, that's we
definitely should take advantage of that. That's I would imagine
Jim Schwartz dow something up. Maybe we see Miles play
a little.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Inside this game. I mean that would be nice.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But you remember him doing the basketball moves? Yeah, yeah,
hit the euro step through yeah, I mean I think
all of those things are in play. Look, this league
right now is walking wounded. We have had catastrophic injuries
to faces of the league bright young players. The one
thing though, that I think is a consistent and I
don't this isn't any fixes, not a quick fix. There
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are not enough quality offensive lineman playing football anymore. They
just aren't.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Is it that? Or is the D line just that?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Good things both?
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Yeah, because we're talking about some freaks at the D
line spot now, Like these guys are super athletic nowadays,
and it's very hard for these offensive linemen to be
able to keep up with those guys. I mean you
talk about speed and power that these guys have, Like
Miles Garrett is of one of one you telling me
you want somebody to try to block you, and then
when your starter goes down, now you're asking your backup
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to do it.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I think it's just a it's a big tall order.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Now on these offensive linemen, I wonder if we'll ever
get to a point where maybe we see them slim
down a little bit to try to keep up.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
So, very good question. So my theory on it is
twofold number one. I always follow the money on anything, right,
and so what we've seen in the last decade. Obviously,
defensive ends paid at a premium. Tackle is played at
a premium, yes, But what we've seen the last decade,
and I think Aaron Donald's a big part of it,
among others, is you've seen interior defensive linemen be compensated
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at a very very high level. And so if you
are a big body boy and all of a sudden
you're saying which side should I choose, defense, I'm going
defense plus defense. You get to hit people, it's more fun,
it's more glamorous, it's all those things. So, like, I
think that's part of it, and then I think the
other parts what you just said, we have never had
athletes like we have currently at defensive end the way
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we have them in this league, and you just I mean,
Miles is the apex of it. But you think of TJ.
I mean, there's so many guys out there, Pars and
some many of these guys who are just freak athletes
come around the edge and and it's just so when
that first rung of guy goes out, the drop off
is massive.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yes, I mean it's like that all I wouldn't say
it like that.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
The corners can be like that as well, where you
have that guy as a one of one and if
he goes out and now you're scrambling around trying to
find another guy that can be adequate in that game.
So it is something that happens all over the field,
but it is the biggest difference on that offensive line.
You it cause it changes the entire game plan. If
we can't block that guy, we can't run those plays.
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So it's it's massive and they got to find a
way to get depth at that position.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
All right. The big news of the week around here
is the change at quarterback from Joe Flacco to Dylan Gabriel.
What was your view of the timing of the switch
from Flacco to Gabriel and what do you expect Kevin
to do with Dylan Sunday that maybe he wasn't unable
to get done with Joe before that.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Well, I don't want to pat myself on the back,
but I predicted it. Ever stopped you before I predicted it.
I said that the London game against the Vikers would
be the game that they would make the switch.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I know people put a lot of stock in the
fact that it's over in London and all those things,
but I don't. I treat this like it's a normal
game week, and I think he Dylan will as well,
and I think the organization would treat as the same.
It's just the regular game week. It's not like he
hasn't been in quarterback meetings. It's not like he han't
seen game plans in all of those things. It's not
like those coaches aren't asking Dylan questions in those meetings
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about what we're going to do in the game. So
I think he's going to be prepared for I think
that the difference that we'll see is maybe with the
with the tackle situation, maybe now we get some more mobility,
Now we can roll the quarterback out a little bit.
Maybe we can get those boots back in there if
we do decide to go under center. But I just
I see that pocket moving a lot. You know, I
was thinking about a guy like Kyler Murray and the Cardinals.
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Kyler Murray has been he's been decent in his NFL career,
but they're running the same offense that the Cleveland Browns
will be running. So, you know, if the height is
not a problem for a guy like Kyler Murray, and
I don't think he should be a problem for a
guy like Dylan Gabriel. And it's not like he hasn't
been dealing with this his entire career. Everybody act like, oh,
he got to the NFL and like this the first
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time you go go against all people. He's literally done
deal with his entire career. So I think he has
a plan and I think he'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, And I think if you think about how you
get to this point, you we haven't scored twenty points
in a non Javis Winston quarterback game since the twenty Yeah,
it's been a long time. So it just it hasn't
worked offensively. It wasn't all Joe's fault, far from it.
Our tackle situation up until this point because of injury
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is real. It's a problem, and it's a swinging gait.
And so when you're talking about now a forty year
old man, and you're talking about in the NFL, a
game of milliseconds, it can be the difference if you
get it out or if you don't, or if you
can buy a half second a time, or if you can't.
And Joe just isn't able to do that anymore with
what's happened with our offense. The other thing that you're
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gonna have to do with this offense you mentioned moving
the pocket. The other thing is the ball's going to
come out quick.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And the way that Kevin designs all of this and
the reason when two time NFL Coach of the Year
twice is because he puts you in a position to
flip your head and spin it to a spot and
that spot to be open. That's the job, and that's
what Dylan did. Dylan can do that. He did that
at Oklahoma, he did it or Oregon. He gets it
out quick. He's ultra bright, and he is as student
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of the game as much as you're ever going to find.
He will be prepared for whatever Brian Flores throws at him. Now,
I don't know if he'll execute all of it because
he's never been in the spot. It's not like this.
It'd be some jitters there for sure, and it may
first start. Absolutely. I'm with you, though. I actually think
the timing of it's really nice because Dylan Gabriel, his
quarterback sixty, started sixty games in college football. Every one
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of those seasons ended with a bowl game. This kind
of feels like a bowl game.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, it's funny you bring that up.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
So I was looking at the Great Bill par Sales
and they put out he had like seven rules that
he looked for when he went to draft a quarterback.
Do you know Dylan Gabriel checks all seven of them.
You want to hear what they are?
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Give it to me.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So the number one thing must be a senior. Check.
He must be a.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Three year starter. Check graduated from college. I'm gonna assume
he was there for six years. He probably did multiple
Number four start at least thirty games. Check double that
win twenty three of those games. Check post a two
to one touchdown interception ratio. Check, and lastly, complete at
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least sixty of his passes check with Flying Colors and
that's Hall of Fame coach Bill Parceales.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah he is. He has played a lot of football.
And if you think of the guys in recent years
who have come in and played right away and been successful,
whether it's Bonis or Jayden Daniels, a lot of these guys.
Even Drake May who came in towards the end of
last year, is off to a nice start to a
season this year. Brock Purty with San Francisco. What you
get is the guys that have had a lot of
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the success right away are guys who played a ton
of football. Even Jackson Dart last week. He started a
lot of games at Ole Miss and this's a massive
transition to the NFL, but he's played a lot of football.
Dylan Gabriel has played a ton of football, and I think,
go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I just I'm interested to see.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I'm not so much worried about Dylan Gabriel because he
does come off as a guy that's gonna be confident,
he's gonna be calm, and he's gonna be poise. I
oh yeah, I'm wondering who's steps up for him, you know,
Even with Joe Flacco.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
We've had guys drop the ball.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You know, That's why we can't always put it all
on Joe for the offense not looking as great. It
was times that Jerry Judy dropped the ball or Harrold
Fanning dropped the ball, like it's been guys doing that. So,
knowing that you're transitioning to this young guy, I wonder
what veteran says, you know what, I'm gonna step up today.
I'm gonna make those plays because completions equals confidence. The
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more that Dylan Gabriel completes that ball, the more confident
he will be in the rest of that game. So
those veterans actually did David the joke, who's Jerry Judy, Bond,
Haro fan all those guys have to step up and
make those plays because it's going to help Dylan settle in.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think the other thing that's gonna help him settle
in is the Minnesota's defense. Well great, they have been
susceptible to the ground game. Yeah, so I would assume
a steady diet of number ten is in the makings
for Sunday and in a big way. And I think
the other thing that you could see is I think
when you're thinking about getting it out quick. One thing
we haven't been as good at the last couple of
weeks as were week one is getting it to the backs.
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Like I'm curious to Samson have a bigger role catching
passes out of the backfield or Jerome Ford or even
Q and then Fannin in chief chief has been pretty
quiet to start this season. Do we see some plays
from him getting the ball up quickly?
Speaker 6 (11:15):
That's the guy that I'm really trying to figure out.
Is he going to be the X factor in this game?
Because you know, I don't know if Harrison Smith is
healthy or not, but he's getting older and if you're
putting him in man the man situations nowadays, I think
David njok who should be able to get that. Obviously
we run a ton of twelve personnel, which is what
I like. Can it force them to play bass? Now
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you got linebackers checking these two athletic tight ends. I
do believe that that can be the difference makers of
a game. And another guy, Jamari Thrash. I know it
was in the preseason, but that was the guy that
Dylan Gabriel was very comfortable going to.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
He's a slot receiver. He can line up and make
some plays.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
I'm curious to see if that chemistry is still there
from the preseason.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
My hunches that will I love. That's an astutid point
out of you. If you remember when Bake first got
in a lot of his early targets. Well, but also
Hollywood Higgins.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Oh yeah, yeah they had.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
They did, and where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Camp?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
There was familiarity, they worked together, they work Yeah, so
then you know, obviously through to Jervis lot too. But
but at the beginning, Hollywood Higgins had a much bigger
role than he had had previously because there was that
familiarity was there. Let me ask you this, how would
you as a player? Uh, Now the team has been
over there since they got in. I guess month today
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this morning in London, they've already done a walk through.
What is your sense of how you would handle a
five hour time change on a game?
Speaker 6 (12:45):
The hardest part is going to sleep. So how I
would do it is? Did they catch a red eye?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah? They flew through the night, flew last night.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
So the best way to transition your body to that
time is to sleep on the plane and then just
stay up for that day. And then go to sleep
that night at a reason of the all time, nine o'clock,
eight o'clock, whatever time is.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Going to be.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
That's the best way to get your body acclimated to
that time change, because anything else, you're gonna be either
up later or you're gonna go to sleep way too early.
So I think for them, the best plan would have
been sleep on the plane, which is gonna be very
hard to do. You got to grind it through today.
They did a walk through today, yep, So it wasn't
gonna be a hard.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Day on your body. Grind through the day, get a
good sleep tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
When you were with Seattle and you guys would play
East Coast, that's a three hour difference. How much was
that effect?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Well, it was always nice to go two days earlier,
so you have that whole day to get your body acclimated.
We usually get there by the time we land, because
we would leave after a Friday practice, so we're leaving
anywhere from three o'clock Pacific time. By the time we land,
it's like eight or nine o'clock yep, and it's.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Like, well it's time to go to bed, right.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
They'd give us like a dinner or something like that,
and then it's like, well, time to go to bed
and try to get our bodies acclimated.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
So if people were pretty good at that.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Me, I tried to keep myself on Easter Standard time
even when I went out there, because if I needed
the extra time, I would wake up at three o'clock
over there, But it's six o'clock to me, like, if
I'm steel tired, I can go to sleep for three
more hours I've wanted to. So I did a really
good job of keeping my body actually set on Eastern
Standard time.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Do you think there's an advantage to Minnesota already being
over there?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I mean obviously yeah, because they are already their bodies
as acclimated. They know what to expect. This isn't their
first game out of the country. You know, they've went
through this, so you know this is not foreign to
them to where where the Browns will have that like, Okay,
we can't do this, or we can and cannot do that.
We need to be prepared for the game. This is
the best way to get ourselves prepared. They don't know
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that because they haven't gone through that to where Minnesota has.
They was like, all right, last week I did this
and it worked for me, or this didn't work for me.
So they got that going for them. But at the
end of the day, I don't. It should be fine,
The Browns will be fine.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You ever been to one?
Speaker 6 (14:55):
No, But you know the funny thing is, so when
I was here in twenty seventeen, right from my cup
of t OTAs, I believe that they were going to
play overseas that year.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Unfortunately I gained twenty pounds and I wasn't as fast
as I once was, and I was not as good
as I once was, so I didn't make it.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I think it's yeah, I think it's probably it's one
of those things as a player that you see it
on the schedule and go, oh god, yeah. But once
they're there, oh, I bet you get a shot of
adrenaline and you're doing the beefeaters and you're on the rest.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You've never been there before.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
It's like it's not a vacation because you're still there
on a business trip. But I'm the good good organization
gives you a little time to go out and explore
a little bit, go go get about an hour or
to go see something, come back, just get it out
of your system unless locky.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Not quite the way like a bowl game would be.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
No like that, like a whole week, the whole week.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Maybe like college football playoff field too, where you get
a little bit of that. That's probably the way that
it's going to go. Those are the hot topics of
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What's happening fellas?
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Thanks guys you're doing are yeah buddy London, England, Well
not really London, England, the outskirts of London.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Ingl believe technically it's Watford.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
It is Watford. Yeah, yes, there you go, Watford. Here
we are, long night.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
How you feeling? You know, I felt better, like you
got run over by a golf cart.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, I felt better.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
What I want to just get out right off the top,
because I think it's important to do so. Is we're
flying as a team, like we all know each other. Sure,
this isn't like flying on a Red Eye with a
bunch of strangers. And I don't know who made the
idea now that nobody can recline their seats, I think
it's absurd.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
I think everybody should be allowed to recline their seats.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Everybody reclined, but there.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Was no emil.
Speaker 9 (17:15):
There was no email that went out that said don't recline.
I am one of the people that says, there's a
button on that arm rest for a reason, everybody's allowed
to put the armres back. And I get people yelling
at me, saying, wait, I'm six foot four. You shouldn't
do that. You're you're a tiny person. Why would you
You don't get it.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Like, I don't care.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
There's a button, move it back.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
If everybody is in the reclined position, yes, it's the
same as if everybody's not in the reclined position.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yes, except we're all more comfortable.
Speaker 9 (17:41):
That's like my dad's idea that when the red light
turns to green, everybody should simultaneously hit go or hit
the gas.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
It has to be everybody should go.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
I'm like, well, Dad, then then why don't you hop
in an automated car and see how you like that?
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Buddy?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
They need everybody would need to be at the same speed.
Here we all have the exact same amount of recline
built into the seat. So it is we would be
in the same situation as if we weren't reclining, except
more comfortable.
Speaker 9 (18:03):
Now let me say this, Yeah, is that obviously you're
much taller than me.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
This's just in.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
I. If I can't recline the seat, it's okay, Like
I I'll survive. I prefer the seat reclined.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I certainly prefer you.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
You, as a as a taller human, probably need the
seat reclined more than that.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
And I even had a Gibbe in front of me,
and Gibbe, just because he is such a stud, forces
that seat into a reclined position. He doesn't want to
be in a reclined position. So I was double squished.
Speaker 8 (18:33):
What you said earlier.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
You didn't recline, but you're Jenna sa Qua and parts
enough parts enough force on a seat that it is back.
You were back a few inches beyond the middle seat.
And I know that because when my head was trying,
I was trying to sleep this way on my eighty
a different sleeping position like this.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Then you'd be like, that's it.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
I love how we touched down in England and you
begin speak French.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Well, that's what you listen when in Rome.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
All right, we got a football foot play, We got
a football game to play the Browns the Minnesota Vikings.
Turns out, whenever the Browns play internationally, they play the
Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Correct, I know if you know this or not, but
the first game that I ever called was the twenty
seventeen game between the Browns.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
And the Vikers. I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Yeah, Deeke was dee got sick.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
I think they pretty much told me like as I'm
getting on the plane and away we went, and we
called it in the stadium in the crowd at what
was it, Twickenham, Twickenham. Yes, we were in the crowd,
no monitors. And when I mean in the crowd. I
mean like we were in the crowd, like fans here,
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supporter here, supporters, yes, all of it. So that was
my first ever experience. So now it's to me to
come home to London full circle for Brown's vikings eight
years later.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
This game also doesn't have Joe Thomas, although we're going
to see the hoff a little bit later. That was
the first game that Joe Thomas missed, and well the
previous week was the last game of his gold jacket career.
You are That game also didn't have Miles. Miles's concussion
protocol did not make the journey.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
So would Botonio be the only one on our team?
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I would have Yeah, I guess right now you're quizzing
me maybe and Chief and Chief Wait?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Yes, Chief is seventeen, Chief and Botonia.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Okay, well there you go, There we go.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Did you know that the Browns had previously played preseason
games in Montreal, Toronto and here in London.
Speaker 8 (20:43):
In eighty nine? I do, now, yeah, I was here on.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
A high school trip a week before the game in
nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
That would be that is a big ask for a.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Preseason preseason games that is a big preseason game. Is
the Philadelphia Eagles. I, as a fourteen year old, Yeah,
walked halfway across the city to find a sporting goods
store that somebody the hotel recommended that I go to
and walked in and bought a T shirt that said
Brown's Eagles Wembley.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Stadium, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Well, how about do you still have it?
Speaker 8 (21:18):
I do.
Speaker 9 (21:18):
It's like threadbare, yeah, perfect, but it still fits because
I'm the same size I was when I.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
Was fourteen years old.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
As we turn our attention to this game, we've got
a new quarterback, Yes, we do talk about that. Dylan
Gabriel will make his first start. You have noted he
is the first player to start their first game at
quarterback in an international game.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
And this is the very first time that Dylan Gabriel
has left the United States of America. I also did
not know he has never been out of the States
until as of about five hours ago when we landed here.
He does not have a family here, does not have
the fiance coming. Last second thing that had not planned
to make this trip. So these are my words, not
in not his. Maybe maybe a little bit of calm,
(22:03):
you know, a little focus. Sure, you're here, You're doing
the job and hopefully performs well.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
To be fair, Yes, Hawaii.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Yes, is a much further flight from Cleveland than London.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yes. And I said to him, well, Hawaii, you're also
halfway Asia. Maybe check out.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
But I said to him as a because we kind
of consider Hawaii to be the West Coast even though
it isn't, you know those of us that sometimes live
on the West Coast. And I said never, like never, Mexico,
like never, Cabo. And he's like, we have Hawaii, we
don't like, Yeah, why Hawaii is great?
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Hawaii is like, yes, it is. It's not a part
of obviously the continental United States. It is one of
the states of the fifty States.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But that is like tim bucktoo.
Speaker 9 (22:46):
Can I tell you real, real quick story many years ago,
I'm sitting at a hotel bar on the island of Kawahi.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
Okay, beautiful, and I'm sitting the Garden island, Yeah, the
Garden Island.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
And the woman next to me says to the bar
town orders of my time, and the woman next to me,
they handle them my time, and she.
Speaker 8 (23:02):
Goes, man, this is really really good. She goes, you know,
there's one one back home that.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
This is better though, like this is really good.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Shees, you know, I'm from the States, and the bartender
looks at her and goes, ohh, so am I.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, these are just the tropical states.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I love it. I love it all.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
Right, back to football, Dylan Gabriel gets a shot. I
thought he looked really good in Baltimore in a very
short drive. Three for sure, mop up duty. The touchdown
to the other Dylan. Dylan Sampson.
Speaker 8 (23:31):
You really couldn't get a fuel for anything in Detroit
mop up duty this past week. But I think he's here.
I think he's right. I mean, I know he's here.
I think he is ready for this moment.
Speaker 9 (23:39):
Joe Flacco yesterday thought it was very gracious to Joe
to get on the podium, open locker room for five minutes.
Yesterday is a class guy, and he said, listen, Dylan's
into it. He's ready for it, like he's this is
this means something to him.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
And I think one of the reasons when you make
the trade of Kenny Pickett, what you're saying is we've
seen Dylan Gabriel operate, and we believe that he can
come and operate and.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Really that's all this team needs. Just operate the offense
and don't turn the football over.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
And let this defense, which is the number one defense
in the NFL, win you games. And let the defense,
combination of the defense and quin Shawn Judkins, who very
much appears to be on a star trajectory early in
his career. Let that be your identity. Just don't give up.
I mean you think about last week. We talked about
it on Browns Daily. The Lions and the Browns each
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had the same number of drives over sixty yards in
that game, and in fact, we have the longest eighty
eight yards. The Lions and the Browns each had the
same number of drives for more than forty yards in
that game, two apiece, and they scored thirty four points.
They had a touchdown drive of five yards, a touchdown
drive of twenty yards, They scored seventeen points off of turnovers,
and they had the punt return touchdown. So I rolled
(24:48):
quickly on mass seventeen plus seven to twenty four. They
really scored ten points, but we gave them all those points.
Just take care of the football, Dylan Gabriel. Operate the offense,
and you're talking about we've had some offensive line is
this is a Minnesota Vikings team. That is, they're getting
their holding tryouts right now. Give me I might get
a look.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
Yeah, Gibby, he could get a look if you know.
He's shaking his head over there.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
The Vikings have major issues, Ryan Kelly, and you hope
the best for rehemic concussion protocol for the second time in
three weeks. So he's not going to play. He couldn't
finish the game last week in Dublin. They're number two center.
Jurgens move over there now, he's banged up. In essence,
as you said, they are having tryouts with a bunch
of practice squad guys. They like the Browns took their
practice squad here. They've got a practice and we don't
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know who their center is going to be. Donovan Jackson,
the former Buck guy, the first round pick, the rookie.
He is banged up as well.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
And then you have Brian O'Neil their right tackle.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
So the Vikings could very well be down three starting
offensive linemen and have a practice squad guard playing center.
That is not ideal. It is a great opportunity for
the Browns pass rush. The Browns whole front seven to
get after Carson Wentz, who is a turnover prone quarterback.
We all know that it all becomes really in my eye,
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it's what can the Browns do to protec Dylan Gabriel,
Because say what you want about Joe Flacco, he didn't
get a lot of protection, particularly from the two tackle positions.
That's got to change for Dylan Gabriel. Joe Flacco's sixt six.
Dylan Gabriel is not Oh, we can move the pocket
with Dylan Gabriel. Great, Yes, he is far more mobile,
but you still need to have your tackles block. And
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if Jack Conklin could come back, and if Cam Robinson,
who was on the trip acquired a couple of days
ago from the Texans, a former Viking facing his former team,
one of his former teams, if you could throw him
in there and if you could perform, then that is
a more comfortable pocket for Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
I think this game is going to be about which
one of these defenses, and they are both very good
their top ten defense. The Browns are obviously the number
one defense here, they're the number three seven overall three
against the pass. This is going to be about which
defense can have the game changing play and or plays
I think.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
To determine it.
Speaker 7 (26:59):
You mentioned Carson Wentz and Browns and beating Carson Wentz
the last two times they faced them. Five interceptions thrown
in those two games. If we can get those takeaways,
give this offense a short field, this could be a
very low scoring game. I mean, Las Vegas has one
of the lowest totals I've seen on a national football
game on this thirty seven. Okay, so they're not expecting
a lot of fireworks here. I think it's about these
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defenses and if the Browns the Vikings they do a
good job too. They're taking the football away in twenty
of their last twenty one games. That streak was snapped
actually last week in Doublin, Ireland against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
If you can control the football and your defense, I
think can go out and win you this football game.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Yeah, we're saying the same thing. Which defense wins it.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Which offensive line really can can patch something together?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Yep?
Speaker 9 (27:40):
To protect their quarterback. Carson Wentz is the veteran. He
has been here before, He's played overseas before. Dylan Gabriel
first NFL start.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
But I'm rooting for him. I thought absolutely.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
Part of the program, Kyle Brant was great this morning,
a Good Morning Football back Home on NFL Network, saying, hey, everybody,
you know what, let's roo for Dylan Gabriel or this
is a fantastic story, right, a fantastic story.
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Let's let's I know I'm rooting for him. You are
as well. I think I think he's gonna do well. Yeah,
let's go get a win.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
We're gonna be all these rookies, Gabriel, Judkins fan and
Isaiah Bond just on the offensive side, Dylan Samson, it's
gonna be fun to watch, all right, storms coming in.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
We got our weather man. Give me here. I even
think maybe do I see a little bit of rain
already here? I don't know yet. Okay, all right, but
it's coming.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
But that is news. But I mean it may rain
and rain a lot tomorrow. So the Browns are scheduled
to practice outside, right, they would have to go find
a bubble down the street. There is one down the street.
It's not night a a European football bubble, yes, correct,
So they'll get it into practice, but that that may
(28:45):
affect things tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Yeah, you know you would have to think that. It
certainly would.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Is you're coming in here getting off the plane on
that red eye. Tomorrow is the really only day of
real practice for the Cleveland Browns. We'll see what that
mother nature holds up, all right, Bow and tive Us
back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Hey, g man, do you know do the do the
Premier League teams all have indoor facilities? I assume they do?
Are the best ones? They don't? Does Chelsea Arsenal? Arsenal?
Doesn't they go outside even in the rain?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So then what would be our guys problem with going
in the rain? Tavus nothing? Hit your button? Hit that button.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
There you go, man, got them asks nothing. Actually it
was you got to embrace the rain. But even for
a couple more years.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah, we got some ground moving over there today on that.
That's big news, man, that's gonna be exciting real quick.
We have our injury report from practice today.
Speaker 10 (29:42):
This is a walkthrough, so it was estimated, but Tonio
not injury related. Rest was full, Malik Collins also full
due to rest. Grant delp it back full. Jack Conklin
elbow was limited again today. Miles Garrett dnp yesterday he
was limited today with that ankle. Mike Hall did not
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practice today and he's been ruled out for Sunday already.
Cornelius Lucas was full. He was not injury related as well.
Greg Newsom popped up on the injury report today with
a hamstring. He was limited. Najoku was limited yesterday. He
was a full go today estimated once again. For the Vikings,
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obviously you mentioned Donovan Jackson. He's out, he had risk surgery.
He did not practice. Jurgens, the backup center hamstring, did
not practice. Ryan Kelly still in the protocol, did not practice,
so they're gonna have to go down to a third
string center. It's looking like JJ McCarthy with that ankle,
still did not practice, so it looks like we might
have Carson Wentz on Sunday. Dallas Turner popped up on
(30:49):
the Vikings report with an illness. He did not practice today.
And Andrew Van Ginkel also did not practice. Brian O'Neil,
we know he's sprained his MCL, so he'll be out
a few weeks. So some big pieces missing from that Vikings.
Vikings team, massive pieces up front for them. I mean,
that's we talked about it off the top. Just there's
not enough offensive quality offensive linemen to go around from
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our perspective. Boy, the Conklin thing, the new Someone popped up,
and you hope that's fine, but geez, I don't know
that anyone thought Jack would be in this spot here
a month later and still here you sit with with
him with the elbow.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, it's and it's crazy because it happened in practice.
That's the part that you hate the most. Obviously, if
you wanted him to make it to Sundays. But with
Dylan Gabriel being in as a left hand, like you
want that blinds I'll protected.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
So I hoping he can get to get it together.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, my call is still out too. Obviously they didn't
anticipate that at the start of the season that he
would miss these this many games, and he's already been
ruled out. And then I mean, obviously the new Someone
is the most newsworthy and that'll be something we'll really
want to pay attention to throughout I guess for them tonight, yeah,
tomorrow morning, because I mean this, these Vikings this they
got Addison back, Yes, so now they got the best
(32:03):
or one and he is the best or one A
and that Addison is probably the best. He's on a
very short list of best number two. It's like Kim Higgins.
Who else is even in that? Probably Mac now, although
Mack might be a one. Yeah, with Evans out, he
might be a one. But it's a Tay Smith, there's one. Yeah,
it's up there though.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that that that hamstring thing
is It is so delicate because you can't if it's
tweaked a little bit, like it's hard to go because
if you go to are you going to pulling the
thing and you're really going to do some damage. So
hopefully he's able to stretch, you know, phone roll it out, hydrate,
and hopefully he's feeling a little bit better because we
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definitely need him in that secondary. You know, the corner
position is already thin, so.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
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with Dylan Gabriel and the Browns offense to have success
against this Minnesota Viking defense. Your key is what mister Powell.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Believe it or not. They need to run the ball effectively.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
I think that that will open up everything, you know,
because now.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
We're bringing back that play action.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
I think it'll clear up the picture for Dylan Gabriel
in that passing attack. So if Quinn Shine and that interior,
that offensive line can do a great job of getting
those double teams getting up to that line back and
creating those seams. Quinnshine has showed you that all he
need is a little slither. He is physical after contact,
he keeps his feet moving.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You do that, those linebackers are thinking, we got to
hurry up and get up there.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Play action. Now, those over routes, that bang eight is back.
All of those things that Kevin wants to run will
be back. So we have to run the ball effectively.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
And he should run the ball effectively, and you really should.
It's the one part of their defense where you can
have success. Can Yeah, So I mean, I think that's it,
and I think with a young quarterback, and you think
about here, and you even go back to camp, and
it's so impressive how far he's come from the first
day of camp to what he was by the end
of camp, let alone when he's been over the last
(35:31):
month where we haven't seen him as much. But like,
there are certain things he's very comfortable doing, and it's
going to be really critical for Kevin and Tommy to
put him in those spots early. And the run game
is going to be a part of it, and it's
going to be play action, move the pocket, get him
on the perimeter, make easy throws. See it, rip it.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
He's good on throwing on the run. He is, and
it's a good ball on the run.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I would imagine it's a slightly different thing for a
defense to prepare for in that he's he's much more
comfortable rolling that way.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
And then the difference between him and the preseason and
now is he was just coming back from that ham
string the preseason, so we haven't really even got a
chance to see his full potential mobility wise. You know,
you're talking about if it's second and ten, if he
has to use his legs to get five yards, it's
easy to call a third and five versus third and ten.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yes, that is a game changer.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, absolutely is. So that's the word I think you're
looking for, is comfortable. Comfortable, comfortable, Get him comfortable, and
the offense should be able to hum from that point over.
The standards been very low, I mean in terms of
getting to twenty points, those type of things. It's time
to kind of break through that. On the other side
of the ball, the Browns defense must win against Minnesota's
offense in which category on Sunday, Oh.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
You know, that defensive line has to take advantage of
the fact that that offensive line is dealing with some injury.
We talked about Donovan Jackson being out go Bucks. We
talked about how the center, they're gonna be down to
their third string center. So now you could do some things.
Our defensive tackle has been playing really well, Mason Graham.
Elite Collins have been wrecking shot this entire season. Now
(37:01):
you try to put some twists in there, maybe throw
Miles in there. That's scary, Carl. Don't let Carson Wentz
get comfortable in this game, because he do have some
guys on the outside that can make some plays, and
they will make some plays, but let's limit those opportunities
by being able to get to that quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I just think about the constant duress he is going
to be under on Sunday with this front. He threw
for three hundred and fifty yards last week. He did
have two picks, yeah, but he threw for three point fifty.
Addison went over one hundred. Jefferson was just under it.
That's what they want to do.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Well.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
I hope that if the ball's gonna be in there,
we need to get more takeaways. I think we were
thirty first in takeaways. Well, we got one pick to
two turnovers. Say quiet, yeah, that's the one thing on
this defense that I would challenge. If the ball's gonna
be in the air and they're gonna turn this thing
into a seven on seven, let's make some plays. That
ball go up, it's ours, Let's go get something. Let's
change the game. Let's help our offense out. You want
(37:54):
to help the young guy, give him the ball on
the ten yard line posed to him. Have to march
his seventy five yards, same thing you did with Joe
Flacco to win that game against the Packers.
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We go back across the pond to Duck to z.
All right, hello, you're doing.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
What's the pond?
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Let's get you ready for your fantasy football games here
this weekend. We're gonna start with the defensive side of
the football because that is where you can kind of
get that week to week streamer. And we've given you
some good ones so far this season. I think you
could go tonight with the La Ram. The Niners are
banged up bigly. No pearsall, no brock Party, no Kittle,
(39:07):
no Juwan Jennings. I think the Rams are gonna have
a field. They plus their lines pretty banged up. I
like the Rams. There some other defenses that I think
you can pick up and play. The Chiefs have been
playing very well. The Colts have been playing very well.
I like both of those defenses as well. All right,
quarterbacks this week, and we had quarterback injuries. Now you're
kind of scrambling. You thought you had Lamar Jackson or
Joe Burrow. You were just set well you're not just
(39:28):
set Daniel Jones. If you have not gotten him yet,
go get him. He should be starting for your football teams.
Jackson Dart against the New Orleans Saints. I think is
a very good start because of what he does with
his legs. And then I think you look at Sam Darnold.
I like the way that he's played of late. You
can get him in your lineups there at the quarterback position.
Running backs, Let's go with our guy right now. Let's
talk about our guy, Quinn John Jenkins must start every
(39:51):
single week. The guy is an absolute must start for
you every single week. So get him in your lineup.
If you need to pick somebody up PPR League, Mari
de Mercado, Non PPR League, Carter Arizona. They're going against Tennessee.
That's a game where they should be dominant. Tennessee is
struggling this year. So I think that you're talking about
somebody right there that's got a very good opportunity to
step in and be a flex option for you this week.
(40:14):
Cam Scattabo, who has reached much start every week's status.
Brece Hall now with Braylan Allen out let him roll.
And then there's our guy Woodrow Marx Woodie Marx. Get
him in your lineups and I think he'll be very
pleased with what you see. Really started to take over
last week for Nick Chubb. So that's somebody that you
want to have in your lineups. Quinton Johnston, he's been
a must start so far all year. Jalen Waddle, I
(40:35):
like him now with Tyreek Hill out, he's got to
get more opportunities. If you can trade for Ladi McConkie
in your leagues, go ahead and try to make that deal.
I think that he is undervalued right now because frankly
he has not been very good. Same thing with AJ Brown,
saying thing with Brian Thomas. If you can go out
and get those guys, go out and get them. I
think they're going to help your teams down the stretch
and then at the tight end possession this week.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Darren Waller, if he's on your waiver wire, give him
a look.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Two touchdowns guy to play football in the years, two
touch downs right out of the gate. Ferguson in Dallas
has really kind of become their de facto number one receiver,
and then Breton's strange down in Jacksonville. He has been
very solid this season, especially in a PPR league back
to back weeks with six catches. He's had at least
three catches in every game so far this season. So
(41:17):
that's your look at some guys help you win your
fantasy football games.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
Here in week number five.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
There you go doctor Z in London with your fantasy minute.
You play fantasy football.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
I do. I'm in three leagues.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
First time?
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Is this your first time?
Speaker 6 (41:32):
No, you've done it for it's been I think this
is my third year playing fantasy.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
My boys are in it, and which you No, they
can't afford my league. They're I only play in one.
They so they're in it, and it's so funny to
hear them try to understand how it is. So for example,
Beamsy has Cede Lamb. Okay, so Ceede Lamb gets hurt
(41:58):
in the first quart of the game two weeks ago, right,
so he's like, Dad, I want to pull Cede Lamb
out too late.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
I sayd you locked in.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
He's like, he said, what do you mean he's hurt.
I'm like, I understand it. Okay, I understand it. We
all understand.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
You lost this week, You're out.
Speaker 8 (42:13):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
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who is the player? Who was he was so mad
about oh a Marion Hampton. Okay, so slow start to
the season. You want to cut him. It's funny because
I got him. I felt the same way. So he's like,
cut him, cut him, cut him. So I'm like, like, dude,
(42:34):
don't be patient. Be patient. It's a long year.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
The thing about fantasy is this, if you're going to
win your fantasy leader's two ways to do it. One
you have to get that quarterback wide receiver duo. You
get that going for them points. And you have to
hit on one.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Of the rookies. I think that's the key.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
If you get the rookie running back or that rookie
wide receiver like a mecca. You got a mecca right now,
your cris which I do on one of my teams.
I got A and Baker, So I'm getting that connection double.
I'm just rolling yeah, four and oh. In that league,
that's what that's where you get to take off.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
We got a one in year old stomping grounds the
Rams and Niners. You spend time with the forty nine ers.
Did you ever get to the Rams?
Speaker 10 (43:12):
No?
Speaker 4 (43:12):
I never made it to the Rams. Ironically, I was
about to go to the Cards. So this is what happened.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
I got cut from San Fran and I was back
at home for a couple of weeks. I was on
the plane headed to Arizona to do a workout. I
landed in Arizona. When I landed, my agent called me
and said, hey, Sam Fran wants to sign you to
the active roster. I call Arizona said I'm going back.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I'm going straight back to the Bay.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
Baby.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
It is the forty nine ers at the Rams. Who
do you got tonight, buddy.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Sam Frang got too many injuries. I'm gonna go with
the Rams.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
I uh, I see it the same way you do.
I know doctor Z does too. On a Thursday, remember
a Thursday edition, I just feel poor old Niners, no Purty,
no Nick Bosa, everybody out. I just it's Rams by
a billion and a half. I mean this. I think
the score in this one could be like ninety one
to two. I think it's in play. So enjoy your
(44:13):
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