Day One In Pads - Cleveland Browns Daily - 7.28.25

Day one in pads here at the CrossCountry Mortgage Campus and the Browns Daily crew breaks down every play. Play-By-Play Voice Andrew Siciliano (55:11) and Legend Bernie Kosar (1:14:27) join Beau and Z to analyze every minute of today's action! All that plus Safety Ronnie Hickman Jr. joins the program (39:25) and the guys hear from HC Kevin Stefanski (32:44).

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus
in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by
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Browns on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,
bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Right, look so alive on a training camp Monday editiontive
Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely bo z is sauntering
over in a love Oh the g man is here,
young Gabriel. You let them, Let the boy watch, Let
the boy watch. What is consecrated here? Look at you?

(00:50):
So I saw this shirt. You look great in this.
It's a good natural look for you. Well. The problem, yeah,
you don't have your MIC on you. I am the
deal here, though, is that the I got here barely
in time, barely in time, and I don't have time
to change. I don't have time to change.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Send that back.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, this is not the correct brocket. Wrong bucket. That's
a I talked to Carrol wrong. I talked to Carolyn.
I said get her back, get her back, say Carolyn,
get the the debutante back. So we said, short brim bucket,
short brim, the tight one tight bucket, and then she
came back.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
With the full bucket. Yeah, which is I don't want
the full bucket. That's I'm Brian Fellow.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Otherwise you want that one?

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, well I want that. I want the tight bucket.
I don't want to want where Brian Fellow. Here she comes.
She's got some nice shades on there.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
She is miss debuts, miss debutant. Tight bucket, the tight
one none left? Uh what? Oh? She tried? All right, well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Don't know if I'm gonna give this to my mom.
She'll love it. She's gonna love it.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Tight no, tight bucket.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
This is Brian Fellow. I'm Brian Fellow.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah that's you're not wearing that. No, Yeah, that's all right. Donate,
donate to the Nanna's gonna love this so you can
walks to the kids.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
This this her entire body will be in the shade
when she wears this.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
It's like a sombrero.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I think Elaine tried doing that, the urban sombrero.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, that's I think that's what she was going for there.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
They didn't like that.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
We were not as grateful, I think as they wanted
us to be.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
But well it wasn't It's not like it was coming
out of their pocket.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But it's also wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So like she was her hard earned money.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
That's not like you said.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I appreciate the effort, but it's not her.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
It's a kin to like you being like I want
to pulled pork sandwich and they come out and they
give you like a bread and piece of cod.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Not the same. No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I'm not into that.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
No, And I'm appreciative of the effort, but I love
the effort. Yeah, we have a quarterback injury.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Reportedly we do, we do, Yeah, I don't, and it's
it's so Saturday. He the red zone session was very productive.
Should Do had a great day. Kenny had a great
day and on the last play of practice rolled out
right through a touchdown to Blake Whiteheart.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
It was perfect. That ended practice.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
He ended up coming over and hanging out with me
and Bernie for training Camp insider. Bernie and he did
a one on one interview which was awesome, and he
seemed to be in great spirits and went inside and
then that was that, and then all of a sudden,
it was hey, we've got something going on, so we
were not aware, So I was.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I was very shocked. Look at Bob operated the.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Cardinal zipping around. She's a turning radius on that thing.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Really, man, that's fun. Okay, So, yes, that's very surprising.
That's a very important bit of information there. That that
all because you know, unless you were here, and unless
you were you were Bernie, you would not have knowledge
of the fact that he did the post practice media
session with you guys, correct, and there was no indication.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Now he seemed to be fine, seemed to be in
great spirits. So yeah, so that happens, and what it
means is it just makes honestly reps a little bit easier.
And I think hopefully, you know, with Shador who I
had a great Saturday that you know, it's going to
give him an opportunity to get more work with, you know,
better offensive line because quite frankly, right now, the problem
they have.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Is that.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
The defensive line as you go down the depth chart
is significantly better than the offensive line as you go
especially like you know, team two, team three, right, because
your third team defensive ends are pros. Yeah, and guys
who are picked in the third round, fourth round, you know,
like legit pros who have had success in the National
Football League, so it'll be I think this will be

(04:34):
good from a quarterback rep standpoint. I know Kenny Pickett
has impressed a lot of people in this building. I've
said it before and I will reiterate it, and I
know people don't necessarily like to hear, but Kenny Pickett's
going to start week one. I think he is the
He's the leader in the clubhouses. I've been saying for
the entirety of the offseason. I think he's a leader
in the clubhouse, and they're very, very impressed with them,
very pleased with them. So I think my guess is,

(04:55):
after seeing him and talking like this has to be
out of what we like to call an abundance of caution. Okay,
is what it feels like to me.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, And we'll get an answer on that from Kevin,
because he's going to talk at one thirties. We'll get
a little bit of a better feel. I did think
that we were kind of heading for kind of decision
day one way or the other, not in terms of
naming a starter, but a change in how they approached practice.
And the reason for that was when he was with
us on Friday and he talked. I asked him about

(05:26):
the plan, and he said, well, they had a plan
for these first four and then they were going to
evaluate and adjust from there based on kind of what
they've seen. Because this is hard to wrap your head around.
The Hall of Fame game is Thursday of this week.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, oh, baby.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Tell me so you're in the same camp. My brother
in law at my lovely niece May's birthday party yesterday
and my brother in law says to me, hall of
Fame game this week. I said, no, I don't think
you have that right. I think it's next week. It's
usually first Thursday in August. I think it's next week.
And then, you know, he took my word for it,
because you know, I work for an NFL team. I
had to know. And then I look, did it.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
No, No, that makes sense though, because then we stay we
play the eighth Yeah, so that's always a week before.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, so it's this week, and so I thought we
were probably. I kind of had a theory and you
and I talked about right that the games are critical, yes,
but also these reps are critical, and you can't keep
trying to rep four quarterbacks with the meaningful reps. It
just doesn't work.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
No, you can't.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
And so you're going to get a break here today
and that it gets three.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I think it.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Look everybody understands that Joe Flacco is Joe Flacco and
Joe Flacco can. It's gorgeous watching him throw the football.
It's like art, as Bernie likes to say. You know,
he isn't going to get as many reps now though,
with this an opportunity for more for Joe Flacco, and
I do think you're going to get a lot more
reps for Gabriel and Shador Sanders, and I think putting

(06:52):
those guys into higher leverage situations is a is a
very good thing. I think that you're gonna want to
see that. And we saw on Saturday some Dylan Gabriel
was with the ones down in the red zone. Let
me grab my copious notes here real quick, but yeah,
I think that's really what where you're going to get
the most benefit from what happens here is you're going

(07:14):
to get more of Shador, who should or have the
play of training camp so far. Touchdown to Luke Floria,
which I think you've seen. I'm sure on the socials.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
We need to talk about him a little bit too.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Floria.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, he's been If they throw it at him, he
tends to catch.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
It for sure, and he seems to get open. The
two guys that outside of you know, Jerry Judy, the
two guys that are getting the majority of the balls
that it feels like our are Florida and Fannin. Yeah,
Fannin looks like he is going to be an impact
player right away.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
And then obviously Floria is fighting and I think you know,
you watch him and he's he's a different type of
a receiver than I mean, he's a true kind of
slot receiver, and he's looked very good, and so that
he's a guy though that with that size. What you
want to see is like today, I think is an
important day for him because it's one thing to do

(08:07):
that in shorts, it's another thing to do it in pads,
and so that's where he's going to today. This is
I think a very important day for him.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Very Yeah. And you mentioned the other big critical point
right there today in pads.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Today in pat which is gonna be good. So I
think you're gonna my guess is you're gonna see some
people here today that you know are ready for massive
roles on this football team and are established, I think
you might see them maybe not get as much work today.
I don't need to see Miles do or Joel. I
got them, Miles, Joel exactly right. Yeah, we're good. We're
good there, So I think that'll be that'll be part

(08:41):
of it today. Ethan Posik, first guy out, Yeah, in
his pads, looking good.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
He's a big man.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Just so it And we won't know any of this
until we hear Kevin in twenty two minutes. Will of
course carry that for you. But if this you said,
abundance of caution, if it lingers though, like there's a
there's a clock that's ticking here.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
My guess is they this is these are not scores.
This is just my interpretation based on the fact that,
like I literally saw him after practice. It feels to
me like I'm guessing maybe he felt something, maybe it
was a little more sore the next day. And he's
saying and the team is saying, we need you for

(09:24):
sure at these joint practices in Carolina. So let's just
go ahead and be cautious about it. By the way,
look at give his gear up there.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Well, don't think I didn't notice that. Don't think I
didn't notice that.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, yeah, as soon as.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
He Yeah, I saw it sitting there, and then he
put it on, and I went.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Okay, the head of security has given me full permission
and approval to wear this hat and act accordingly if
need be.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's amazing because you were the number one rap scallion, Yes,
for frame four year you you, oftentime would would spit
in his face. Never yes, never literally, never figuratively with
your faith, with your Remember he was keeping an eye

(10:13):
on you out the window up there during COVID, and
you were consistently dinging things with your buzzer left and right.
And then now we see this.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
That's right. It's unbelievab.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
I've been deputized, he's deputized.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
We've empowered him. That's right, They've empowered him.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
This is the lawless leading the law, which is terrified.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
What's happened?

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Welcome God. He's a girl of bed checks in Carolina
for you every night.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Next week, more authority. No, are you kidding me? Bed
check for him? No, he's gonna sleep like a baby.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, after the last six weeks, he's gonna I'll be honest,
I've slept pretty well.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
I mean Lucas, he's a champion.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
He's a champion, and I'm not phased at all by
like if a monitor lights up for a split second,
or if he makes like one little sound, I don't
He'll let me know if he needs me.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
Night.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Amy used to so I used to be the lightest sleeper,
Like before we had kids, if there was anything in
the house, I'm on it.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
I'm up.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
What do we got. Give me a bat, give me
a weapon, let's go see what's going on. I was
always that guy. And then when we had when we
had kids, she was like something changed, and now I
don't hear anything.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
A kid will walk into our come from upstairs into
our bedroom, walk the whole way there across and and
like be like nudging my wife. I hear none of it.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Good, none of it.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's a great skill.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
So it's I've figured it out. Like when they were little.
I must have figured it out cause they used to
hear everything.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
So she's like, I'm up all night because you know
I'll see the monitor. I'm like, first of all, let's
just do this. How about we put them monitor, Let's
just turn the put the monitor on my side.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Turn the screen down as low as it needs. Yeah,
turn the just and if when he cry cries, you'll know,
then we'll deal with it. We'll know, you know. Otherwise,
just sleep. There's hill a point in being awake when
you're supposed to be sleeping.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
No, dont know. You got to sleep when you can.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
We do have some.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Breaking news on the football side of things. UH Colorado
head coach Dean Sanders at a press comps to Day
at one o'clock out in Boulder. He's been away from
the Colorado football team all summer. He hasn't been in
Boulder since UH spring practice ended, so he's been away
all summer and there's always been vague and he was
dealing with some medical issues, but nobody really knew what
they were in any way, and that's his right to

(12:24):
deal with.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Whatever he's dealing with privately.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
But he had a press compass to Day and Boulder
with his medical team that he had been dealing with
bladder cancer. He has had his bladder removed and he's
now cured of cancer. So very good news out of
out of Colorado. And of course that's just one more
thing that Shador would have been dealing with through the
draft process, through the summer, and probably for much of
the last year that he was a Colorado And that's

(12:48):
a heavy, heavy load there that.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
He was dealing with.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
So good for Prime and good for Shador and and
that that's that's good news there.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
That is very good news there, and certainly wishing him
the beast in the speedy recovery and all of that.
You want, health is all we got, so you on
make sure it's good obviously to get that update. And
he's had to deal with quite a few things.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh man, he had the blood clots, he had two
toes removed. Yeah, he's had a lot of health stuff.
Wild Yeah, he had a lot of health He's had
a lot of health stuff as he's aged, and just
it's crazy. Even when they would have some big wins
at Colorado those two years that they were there shooters
last years of college, you know, they always had to

(13:31):
have a big, big security presence around him after wins
because he couldn't get out of the way yep of
like the throng so like when they would storm fields
and whatever, like, he has a huge security presence because
he didn't he wasn't nimble enough anymore to get away
because of some of the health issues that he had,
which is crazy because he's probably the most nimble athlete
any of us have ever seen in our life, on
a very short list of the best athletes and anybody's

(13:52):
ever seen. Yeah, yeah, pretty ridiculous. We had video of
him at my television station at Tallahassee and High School
from like the mid eighties, like on three quarter inch
tape that showed him playing basketball. Nuts nuts, just nuts,
just built different, just built different. They need to think
he did the foot locker dunk contest thing. Actually, they

(14:13):
need to bring all that back and stuff. Was so
great seeing athletes do stuff that wasn't in their comfort zone.
And yeah, it was really really good. So I don't know,
I but good for him. Great news.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Do you remember who used to do the they've called
like the battle was like the Battle of the Stars.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Or whatever, Battle of the Network Stars.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Yeah, do you remember who used to be the three
person announced team?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, I think, I mean the way that you phrased
that leads me to believe that one of them was
Bruce Jenner, another one was Oj Simpson, also correct, I'm
not sure who The third was.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Cosell imagine explaining that picture come to somebody today.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
No, no, no, no, no. Jenner was on a Whedi's
box when I was a kid. O. J. Simpson was
when we were kids. In OJ Simpson was in every
hurtzad in perpetuity. You could not escape them. Yeah, no,
and it's it's crazy. Then you do the Bill Cosby
one too. Well, all of a sudden this turned into

(15:13):
a June show. So they'll be out here practicing. So
we've got in terms of the schedule this week, practice today,
practice tomorrow, off Wednesday early early Wednesday, off Thursday, Friday,
back on.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Saturday, on off Sunday.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Okay, so there you go, and then get.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Ready to head to Carolina and get ready to have
our first preseason game. Jeez man, even next Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
How do you think, you know, like you know in
their head they have a plan for all of this,
All of the pieces matter with them. There's layers upon
layers of plan. You've been through a lot of these
in terms of executing that plan this far in or
this early in. How's it going your mind?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I think, well, I think that they're happy with some
of the information. They're getting you know, I think they
they would like to see, you know, the the third
team and even sometimes second team offensive line do a
better job of protecting so that they can get more
valuable reps. But I think in terms of the plan
that they've laid out, it's been good. They are maximizing
their time. I think it has been a more intense

(16:23):
camp than we have seen in years past, and I
think today we'll get a real chance to see that,
obviously here in the Pats. So I think it's been good.
It has been so hot for that this has to
be the hottest July on record in terms of humidity
and heat index.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
The last it's the second word to use. It's not
the heat, it's the humidity. Yeah, we've never had look,
no meteorologist, but I've known a bunch from my TV world.
It feels like there is so much water in the
ground from the record amounts of rain we've had this
spring and summer that when it gets hot, the ground
just sweats. What it feels like to me, I think

(17:01):
it's just I think it's just there's so much hot
steam coming. This could all be complete nonsense, but it
feels like it makes sense to me. I mean we
had I mean Saturday, Saturday, we had downpour, flash flood
rain again on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Oh yeah, my street, the streeah.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
It was a river. I didn't have a drop.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I don't know how. It was dark.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
It was like Saturday, little lightning to the to the south,
like a couple of rumbles with thunder. Nothing overnight. It's
rain for maybe twenty minutes. I haven't gotten anything.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
By three thirty Saturday, I got a note an email
from the club that the.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Course was closed. That's amazing you could good here.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, yeah it was. It was underwater. Yeah, and it's
been like that. I was actually one of the guys
the club was saying they lost like six weekend days.
Weekend days, like we don't have that many Saturdays and
Sundays where you can actually like go spend the day
at the club. But pool and night and golf and
all of those things, they've lost six of them.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Summer.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Like there you're feeling the brunt of it, man.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, like you.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Gotta make you have to make it. You have to
make your hay right now.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Today is hot, Yeah, today is definitely hot. Saturday. The
humidity here in the morning was so thick Oh my goodness. Yes,
I was like, thank god, we're practicing at nine thirty.
Bad news availability outside because the friends of family tends full.
Oh right, because practice is going on. You cooked. You

(18:32):
could have put an egg on the ground and cooked it.
There was no doubt within ninety seconds it would have
been ready.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
This breeze here, isn't There's a little breeze a little bit.
You see the flags on the goalpost moving a little
bit enough, Any little breeze. It all helps, Yes, yes,
it all helps.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Whoa, we'll take it. Well.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Did you not hear that or maybe that was just
in mind?

Speaker 3 (18:51):
No, I did not hear it. Squelching there, all right, very.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Good, must have been in mind. Yeah, So the little
breeze helps. And I think tomorrow and Wednesday are worse,
aren't they.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
No, today's the worst day of the week. Tomorrow is
going to be right up there, and then we start
to get a little reprieve. All right, everything, all right, just.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
A little little finicky cable here today.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
All right, I'll work on. I know you're fine by
the end of the week. In the seventies, yeah, I
mean we'll take that.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well. Yeah, high school football starts all of the football,
middle school, high schooloball, everything starts Friday, the practice starts
because August first, that's when they can start. Yeah, I mean, well, heck,
we're three weeks from playing for them, you know, I
mean we're playing. I mean, it's it's here. We're here. Now,
we're here, no turning back.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Kids.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
My math was terrible earlier. But we are what eleven
days away from our first game something like that. The
eighth Yeah it's Friday night. Yeah, we're on a Monday.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, Friday night down Yeah seven plus four yeah, yeah,
way we go, so we go. Yeah, Look, you're going
to learn a lot that these are going to. All
of these reps are so critical for these young quarterbacks.
If Kenny misses this practice and all the reporting suggests
that he's going to miss a little bit of it,
but we'll get an official word on that coming up

(20:06):
in ten minutes from coach. If he is out, then
most of those reps. My hunt would be we would
go to Joe at the one, and then Dylan and
Schador would.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Kind of come in underneath that, and I think I
think you give them.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
I think if I would like see everybody get a
turn with the ones today that's what I would like
to see, you say, see what that, See what that
looks like, And so you can have some apples to
apples comparisons, you know. Here it could be a day
where you just say, you know what, we're just gonna
do nothing but Dylan and Chaudor with the ones we
know you know what Joe Flacco is.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, yeah, you you know it.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Of course you need to keep him you know, fresh,
and keep him you know, current, and all of those things.
But that's going to happen anyway to me, Like Joe
Flacco is known a commodity as there can possibly be
on this football team. Yes, so let's see those guys
taken advantage of this. If this season is all about

(21:03):
finding out about Picket, Gabriel and schaudor, let's just use
today without Picket to really focus on Gabriel and Shador.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
The counter to that would be, do you also owe
Joe something to get him ready in case it's him?

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Of course, but I think that's a decision that would
be made. And listen, Joe Flacco was ready to play
off of his couch with one week in LA. It's
like he's certainly much further ahead than he was at
that point, So that decision like Joe Flacco getting all
the reps for two weeks leading into week one, he

(21:43):
would be more than ready to go. Yes, yeah, yeah,
so that's I'm not as concerned about that at this
point in the season.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I would agree with you, and I would love your
plan for this to be all Dylan and Shadoor with
the ones. I think that would be really enlightening and
give you a real look about what they're capable of
and honestly kind of a throw them into the fire moment. Yeah,
just see like, well, can you, you know, throw them
into the into the in the deep end and see
who could swim? I I think you could. That could
be incredibly valuable to your point.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
And I think that look, and if it goes.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Poorly, you can always then be like, all right, we're
going to switch up and that we'll give Flack of
the reps because you need everybody else to be getting
good work on the offense as well. But these quarterbacks,
I mean, I certainly think that they've got the ability
to do it. I've talked about it, and I've talked
to a bunch of people in the building with Shador
and he's done a really good job working, but he's
learning so much in addition to basically a new language.

(22:37):
I mean, he has never had to call plays like
this at any level. The process of what it takes,
the way that you know, you watch film in the NFL,
the things that you've got to do to get ready
for a game, the way that you have to prepare
in the NFL, you know, versus when you're a backup
and the responsibilities that come with that in the season
versus you know, when you're always the starter and they
say you prepare like you're the start of Yeah, but

(22:58):
in the NFL, there are different roles that every but
he plays, and it's it takes the whole room, and
so I think that there are things that he's learning
on that regard. But his ability to throw the ball
where he wants to is elite and I think everybody
has seen that. And when he is known really kind
of what he's doing and what's going on, he's been
very effective.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Every day.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
You know, there are ups and downs, and at times
he's a little bit lost or maybe he's not you know,
where he needs to be, But every day he has
made some high level NFL throws every day, and that
has caught the attention of people.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I remember, I remember when Dion took the job at
Jackson State and at the time schdor was committed to FAU.
He's gonna go play at FAU. I think Kiffin was
there at that time. Okay, but he's gonna go play
at FAU. And Dean took the job at Jackson State
and brought trapped with him to Jackson State and he

(23:53):
had a press com. One of the press comes he
had it was like, the kid can throw the durned ball.
He always could. He just is a natural thrower. Absolutely,
It's just easy. It's effortless. His ability to layer throws.
Nothing seems hard at all in terms of the throwing
of the football. It all is easy. He's got incredible

(24:14):
touch over the middle, deep underneath everything. Plenty of arm,
I mean plenty of arm, more than you'd ever need. So,
like as you see him out here warming up in
front of us, now, yeah, like he just looks very
natural throwing the football. It's probably always has been.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yes, It's just something that he has the ability to
do that he can throw the ball where he wants
to throw it, and that is you know, So if
you can do that, if you master knowing where to
throw the ball and understanding all that, then you're going
to be really successful.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
And so he's got one of those two.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
There plenty of people that know what they're doing with it,
but they can't actually get the ball where they want.
They're just inaccurate or that is not his problem. So
I think I'm excited to see shador And I think
one thing in this training, in this competition, the quarterbacks
and all of but I think that people have to
understand is at the end of the day, this is still.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
A third round pick and a fifth round pick.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Typically that's not where you draft the franchise savior. No,
not to say that one of them can't. I think
everybody would say that. You know, Shaudor's got a ceiling
that makes you feel like that is, you know, possible
if everything comes together.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Yeah, I mean, Bob's out here ripping donuts.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Bob's performance right now is security. Bob is elite, unbelievable
in the is that is that an eight seater is
the camera catching.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Any of these He is the driver of the VIP
shuttle and he is crushing.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Crushing, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Yeah, I mean, there's a panache to what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Oh my god, there's an elegance. I mean, it's cheez
it is stunning Ford versus Ferrari Bob right now.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Yeah, it's very good, but it is good.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
People have to understand that, like if Dylan Gabriel or
should Door Okay end up as ten year veteran backup
quarterbacks in this league, those are hugely valuable and that's
a huge win for what they are. I'm not saying
that that's what they're limited to being able to be,
but I think that you know, we're looking at these

(26:15):
guys through the lens of it. It's because we need
a quarterback that we're putting almost the expectations or pressure
on him that you would on a Jaden Daniels or
a Drake May. These are very different situations now. Now, Shadoor,
a lot of people thought was going to be drafted
second overall. And so that's why I say, in my mind,
with him, that's the guy that you know, maybe that
could end up being if you can get it all

(26:36):
to click. Because there are a lot of people who
watch him on tape that thought, yes, he is that
kind of a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
There isn't a single person who evaluated him who didn't
have his a top thirty five player in the league.
Most had him as the number two quarterback, some had
him as the one. Yep, no, for sure, he's the one.
It's it's interesting, like I think sometimes we forget about
that because you hear people talk about Shador and it's like,
it's such a great point you brought up in terms

(27:01):
of where guys are drafted and how we view them.
If Shadour was the second pick in this.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Draft, totally different.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Completely, Yes, Now he has the talent that he could
have been the number two pick in this draft, and
a lot of mocks he was going number two overall
in this draft, certainly a month out of the of
the draft, and so you know, it's one of those
things where with him, I was I did a national
hit on Sunday about this and they were asking about

(27:29):
the two quarterbacks. I'm like, look, these guys are lottery tickets. Yep, yes, completely,
they're lottery tickets. If you hit on them, you've won
the lottery.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
If one of these guys is a five year, ten
year starter for this team like franchise, that's a lottery
to land that that changes the face of a franchise
if you stumbled into it. That's what brock Purdy was
for the Niners. He clipped what they were going to
be by they won the lottery.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yes, yes, that is exactly right. And if either of
them is ten year backup, that's a hugely successful draft
pick at that spot because there is so much value
in this organization over the next few years. Being able
to have a backup or even a backup and a
starter on rookie contracts. That would be massive for this organization.

(28:15):
So there's a lot at stake with these quarterbacks. I
think we need to view them through the lenses of
what they are, which is they are third and fifth
round draft picks. But understand that with Shador there are
people who think his talent vastly outweighs that draft slot,
and I would say basically everybody who evaluate him would
say that, and that with Dylan the Browns, they feel
like he is a great system fit, a great scheme fit,

(28:36):
and Kevin Stefanski is a big fan of everything that
he's been doing. So we'll let this play out. But
that's why I want to see these guys. I think
that you really want it by the end of this
year to have a conviction that either one of them
can or cannot or both cannot.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
YEA, be that guy.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I think you need a defendivenner on both of them,
one way or the other, and you should have enough
to know. And I think my advice to fans is
who drew them tow to view them the same way
that I just explained them as lottery tickets. When you
buy a lottery ticket, what do you have? Hope, yes,
but in your head you're like long odds here man,
for sure, long odds. But if you hit on it, yeah,

(29:19):
away we go. And that's that's that's the way I think,
you know, the two of them ought to be viewed.
This's a these are massive, like and we don't know.
I did see a quote from look like Mary Kay
got Joe Flacco that Joe Flacco told Mary Kay feels bad.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Be on with the next level later on today.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
There was because of.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
U h day, Okay, very good that he feels bad
for Kenny Pickett doesn't know if it increases his chances
of winning it. You don't want to see something like that.
So some of the comments from Joe I don't know.
It must be from today, huh.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I think if Kenny Pickett suffered an injury that was
going to keep him out of the entire preseason, Joe
Flacco's You're a week one starter. So I don't believe
that this is going to be that type of injury situation.
It's certainly nothing that I've seen would lead me to
believe that that is this type of injury situation. And

(30:13):
so now the whole thing is going to be like, Okay,
where are we, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (30:20):
And you know, how do these guys handle it? Yeah?
I don't think that. Well again, Kevin's talking what now
he's there?

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Ye wait, he's walking over there. He's doing a photo
op with one of the kids from Rainbow to.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
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Hospital's Rainbow Day here on campus. For the second consecutive year,
the Browns are supporting University Hospitals Rainbow Babies and Children's
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Speaker 3 (31:04):
I'm wearing the shirt.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
If I would have got here sooner, i'd have it too.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I have it right here. Yeah. I think you probably fine.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Where you are, might be all right, might be all right.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
So this is it is a it is a unique shirt.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I'm saddened that Gibbet is not a team player and
he's not wearing his.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Rare to see it, especially I work security. Now he's
been marshall no no, no, deputized.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I tried it on earlier.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Might have not been a little flattering from the standpoint,
and I was like, well, we're gonna need this one out.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
They said they didn't have anything.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
This is for the kids, for the kids, for the kids.
This isn't a fashion people. Although I will say I
found out who designed the shirt, and I noticed that
they weren't wearing it.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Ah ah, no names.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Please, no names.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
I don't know what's going on. He I think coaches
at the podium.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
He's talking. I can see him.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Yeah, I would like to able to hear him.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
I'm not sure or what's happening.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, we're efforting where's he's running that?

Speaker 5 (32:05):
No, Young Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Young Gabriel has failed at nothing, nothing since he's been here.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
I cannot success rate.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, I cannot imagine.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
It just makes you think there must be a technological issue.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Siciliano's over there in a hoodie.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yeah, he have his hood up. He usually does.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
I know.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, hopefully you can get an update one
way or another.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Let's see if see if some quotes or nothing yet
on the twitter uh.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
From Siciliano was over there. Ste Fancy says Pickett felt something.
At the end of practice Saturday. Pickett had an MRI.
I he's day to day.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay and here that we can have him. Let's go
to coach if we can.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
At this point we were not playing on doing more.
Then I'm sorry. Jerome is getting extremely close. Saw him yesterday.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
He'll be out here, not a he'll be a participant,
but in a limited capacity.

Speaker 9 (33:00):
Kevin, you said there might not be changes to the
rotation anyway, but did you know ahead of time, Like,
did you know earlier enough that you didn't really have
to think about how your four man rotation would have changed?

Speaker 7 (33:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (33:11):
I meant knew coming off the practice field, and then
knew the severity of it obviously as we talked through it,
that he's gonna miss today and maybe a couple of days.
But we'll reevaluate it after this block, if you will.
But you know, again, disappointed for Kenny, but he's uh,
he's here, he's getting better and we'll see when he's
back out there.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
He's been getting so many of the first team reps.
Do those I'll go to Joe? Do you buye him
by two or three?

Speaker 8 (33:36):
Or it really depends on the period and what we're
trying to get accomplished in there, but Joe would get
the majority of them.

Speaker 10 (33:42):
How about kind of then trickle down to Dylan and a.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Lot more work with the ones for Dylan and maybe
some two's.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
For sure, a little bit of both, Mary Kay, I
think it's really dependent on the period, what we're trying
to accomplish in that period, and just moving these guys around,
given giving them some more exposure.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Kevin to that in Dylan had seemed to get a
little bit more work with the ones the last couple
of days last week.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
What have you?

Speaker 9 (34:06):
What did you see specifically in those periods out of
him and and what was sort.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Of the was it just to kind of throw him
in there with him and kind of see what how
he handled this.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
I think all these guys have to learn from every
single rep, whether they're in there or not. I think
that's something we've talked about at length, and I've talked
with you guys about that.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
Uh. And I thought Dylan did a nice job with
the reps that he had.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
There was some some really good moments and then some
moments that are great teaching moments. I think that's so
much of where we are in training camp is making
sure that as as a mistake is made, we don't
make the same mistake again with your philosophy.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
This year.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Practices, how intense were you get.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
Hit much?

Speaker 8 (34:48):
Yeah, once the pads go on, Tony, they're on today.
We'll take a day off tomorrow, put him back on
on Wednesday. But really the the you still need to
practice safely. So we'll thud the run, meaning you'll we'll
fit up the runners. We won't tackle to the ground
in this practice.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
But it is important that when you get the pads
on offense defense speciallyams, you have to you have to
get acclimated to your pads. As you know, quarterbacks throwing
in shoulder pads, people catching shoulder.

Speaker 7 (35:15):
Pads, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
But by the same token, while yes, it's physical, we
don't want a bunch of guys on the ground.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
That's not the the intention of putting the pads on.

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Still to use our technique and still to be smart
when it's browns versus browns.

Speaker 11 (35:30):
Kenny really kind of coming.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
In mobility a little bit.

Speaker 8 (35:33):
I thought he had nice first four days. What were
your thoughts on how Yeah, I thought Kenny had a
strong block there, Like like you mentioned, Mary Kay, Uh
did use his mobility a couple of times there and
was and a he's a fast player. He can really run,
so uh, we'll make sure that he heals up nice
and nice and fast and then.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Get him back out there.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
But I thought he had a good four days. Sits
on your first day.

Speaker 8 (36:00):
To day, well, I think kind of like we were saying,
you know, we want the UH players to get comfortable
in their pads. There is an element of literally just
throwing and catching, which you're not even you're not allowed
to do in your shoulder pads previous to now, So
getting used to it and the then the physicality will

(36:21):
ramp up. I mean it's it's we're not in those
soft shells anymore, so you'll hear it a little bit more,
the physicality of it. But that's all part of training camp.
It's been going on for a pretty long time.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Path your live.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Uh No, not not waiting per se. We did some
field goal work the other day. We did both sides.
I mean we'd we'd field goal and field goal block.

Speaker 11 (36:50):
Kevin David Njok who told us today that he never
really felt healthy after Week one last year. So I
guess how impressive was it that he kept kind of
going out there and kept fighting to be out there.
And do you spike out of a healthy to joke
this year?

Speaker 8 (37:02):
I think we've all seen what Dave can do when
he's healthy, and you're right, I don't think he was
was healthy last season. So he's feeling good now when
he's himself and feeling like himself. He's a huge part
of what we do, not only offensively, but just as
a football team, and his energy is certainly felt throughout
this building. So excited for him to be healthy.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
For you that you get back in time to be
he that grow up his sport.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
Yeah, I'm confident Kenny's gonna attack his rehab. Like we
talked about Mary Kay this the evaluation on these guys
is all encompassing and it goes backed through the spring.
It goes to what they've put on tape already as
as football players. So I know he wants to be
out there, but he's still very very much involved.

Speaker 9 (37:52):
People will go to be yes, do you have any
update on when when Shawn drunkard that just couldn't rejoin
the team.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
I don't have an update. Mike Woods and Kevin Jenkins,
did they still out? Mike is out, Tevin is getting close.
It looked like same idea, We'll be out but working hard.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
You look right at the an opportunity to practice.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Miles Harden got hurt? Okay, okay, you mean hungry dog?
You mean hungry dog, hungry dog? My bad?

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Okay, all right, Hydra, all right, there you go. The
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a couple of days. Joe Flacco, majority of the first
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And now mister Siciliano and mister Hickman.

Speaker 12 (39:25):
Ronnie Hickman, they say the practice or camp really doesn't
start until they put on pads. That said, it seems
like as it gets hotter every day and the intensity
ramps up every day, you guys have kind of hit
the ground running long before pads this year.

Speaker 13 (39:41):
You know, every time we touch this field, that's when
it starts for us. We don't want to wait for
the pads, Although the knots will turn up a little
bit when those pasts come on.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
We like to take advantage anytime you here.

Speaker 12 (39:49):
I mean, football is football, even in shells and shorts, right, yes, sir,
all right, tell me about you year three.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
You're one, You're trying to make the team. You're two.

Speaker 12 (39:58):
You're coming off a great playoff front to pick six
against the Jets, making the playoffs all that. Year three, Ronnie,
not that you have not started games, you have, but
year three, it's like, dude, it is all there for you.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, one thousand percent.

Speaker 13 (40:11):
Like you said, year one was kind of you know,
making the team, your two getting comfortable, and I think
year three is just allowing me to get way more
comfortable into this defense. You know, Understanding my role more
is one of the things I wanted to work on
in this offseason. And then ultimately my job is to
be the best teammate I can and you know, do
my role as best as I can.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Tell me about your role, like, help me, help us
understand your role.

Speaker 13 (40:30):
You know, at that safety position, you know, we call
ourselves the nerve center, and that's communicating to everyone, keeping
everyone chill. You know, band Alexa says, we put the
fire out, we call ourselves the firefighter.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
We go into the fire and then we kind of
calm it down. But it's just being there for my.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Teammate, being the best team and I can be put
the fire out.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
You're kind of last more you are, you're the last
side of the defense.

Speaker 7 (40:48):
One.

Speaker 12 (40:48):
Yeah, in years past you had veterans there. Here you're
bringing Jenkins and Kzy they are veterans as well, but
as you said, it is your third year in the system,
so you are the young veteran. I guess you could
learn stuff from them, but you're the guy that's familiar
with the system. So what's that dynamic?

Speaker 10 (41:06):
Like?

Speaker 13 (41:07):
It is good because like you said, uh, with Jenks
and mckayzy and with Nick, those guys are they got
more years on me, but like you said, this is
my third year in the system. So just being able
to you know, kind of help those guys but then
also picking up cues from them. And you can see
day for those guys are getting comfortable in the system
and they're kind of adding those vet techniques that I'm
stealing from and taking from. And it's just good to
have their experience but also my experience with the playbook.

Speaker 7 (41:28):
Going into year three, you.

Speaker 12 (41:29):
Are going to be a modest guy, so I will
say it, and understanding what we said before about the
beginning of camp and how you're you're kind of easing.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Into it a bit.

Speaker 12 (41:38):
The defense right now is ahead of the offense, right
like Friday, the defense. You guys practically pitch the shutout
does this defense and I know it's only camp like
it's getting it swagged back.

Speaker 13 (41:51):
Swag is one of the three identities we want to
have as a defense, and it starts now in these
dog days and were putting in work and there's not
too many people out here. We sweat and we grinded.
This is why we get that swag. You only get
swag when you're making plays. You know, you only have
that energy when you're making plays and playing together as
a defense.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
So we like to build off of that and start fast.

Speaker 12 (42:09):
I heard a lot of people say, well, listen, two
years ago the number one defense last year obviously it
was what it was. And when I say what Nathan says,
when Bernie says, hey, none of this defense is going
to get back to the form we saw on twenty
point three, they.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Say why, right? Why? I mean, like, why should I
believe that? Why should they believe that? One?

Speaker 13 (42:28):
Because we know who we are, we know what we
want to do and none of us want to feel
how we felt last year. You know what I'm saying.
We all know what it was like coming in after
losing weekend and week out. So it's on us and
we know that we've taken the steps since OTAs we've
been a different team compared to last year, and we
know what it takes. You know, it's not much about
the talk or you know what I'm telling you right now,

(42:48):
This could mean nothing, you know, but when the lights
come on and when it's time to play, we'll be ready.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
At the front end of the back end.

Speaker 12 (42:54):
Always have to be in order right, always in alignment
the guys rushing and you guys on the back end
as well. But those guys rushing help you and you
help them out. This D line group crazy the first
couple of days crazy, do we agree they are? They
are the standout of this camp, that D.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Line coverage and RUSS working together. That's what we say.

Speaker 13 (43:13):
When they do their job, it makes our job easier,
and when we do our job, it makes it easier
for the Shorts.

Speaker 12 (43:17):
Always talks about the waves right the eighteen to B team,
like there are there are legit three waves on the
defensive line.

Speaker 13 (43:24):
On this it is it is that competition on front
is crazy and as a safety, as a DV, you know,
I love it.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
You know those guys are.

Speaker 13 (43:30):
Hungry and I know they're gonna give it they all
because that's gonna give you you know tips, you gotta
get those, Yeah, and that's how you guys got to eat.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Grand had to pick a couple of days ago and practice.

Speaker 12 (43:39):
I know that as well. But you know the flip
side of that is is that front seven is also
that hard on the quarterback and hard on this whole line,
and like I know, it's early, like I said, hard
to evaluate the quarterbacks. I know it is not your job,
Ronnie Hickman. So you you, I know you're gonna say, hey,
I'm not picking the quarterback. I know you're not, But
just tell me what you think of that group, because

(44:00):
look when all the fans are out here, I.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Mean that's what you know. They're they're pointing their cameras
at those guys. Weren't they aren't jerseys. Honestly, I think
it's just great competition for those guys.

Speaker 13 (44:10):
When I'm watching those guys or if I'm playing against them,
I'll just see four highly competitive, five highly competitive guys
in in that QB room, and when we're out there
going at it, you know, I ain't picking no favorites.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Y'all ain't gett no clickbit out of me.

Speaker 7 (44:21):
I was not gone.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's not what I was doing, I promise you.

Speaker 13 (44:25):
But like I said, man, those guys are competing, everyone's
making the plays, and they're all learning off of each other.
So it's been good from a defensive perspective, seeing you know,
the different style of quarterbacks play.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
And I'm excited to.

Speaker 12 (44:35):
See him and hey, like we always have that that
that twenty three moment with Joe and the Jets and
you and the pick six. I mean, it's about I
know that was two years ago. Joe said he doesn't
even think about that anymore, but like that magic still there.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
It is, it is.

Speaker 12 (44:49):
I'm gonna see some of that magic and hopefully see
it on the field pretty soon for this guy, Ronnie Hickman,
great to see it, man.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Thank you for doing this all right. There you go,
Andrew Siciliano, Ronnie Hickman. As the team is out here,
quarterbacks on the far field getting some some warm up,
going some snaps, some under center, some shotgun full team
out here, and Kevin was on with us on Friday
and talked about look one startup practices too.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
But really once they start taking coaching and then they
get two hours from that moment.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
So that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
And yeah, we're we're getting ready, getting rolling. Everybody's out here.
It'll be curious see who kind of gets the Haywaring
pad's day off. And I imagine you're going to get
some of that. I think you could easily see, Like
we talked about the Denzel Wards, the Yeah, Miles, the Betonio's,
you know the guys you do not need to see
at all. I see Miles over there. I think they'll

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be out in pads. Yeah, I don't know how much
they're actually going to do in those pads.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, that's the that's it, right, It's they'll be in pads.
But just this is the balance. If you're Kevin, we
talked to Tim about last week, Like, you know, there's
an more intensity to this, There's there's probably gonna be
more physicality to this, but also it's a seventeen game season.
We're a long ways from games actually count, and you

(46:14):
know there's that part of it too, and so you
have to you want to take care of your guys.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
I do think though, there is something and he's using
that word, and you know, we'd said it a few
weeks about getting this team calloused, getting them ready, getting
them you know, physicality. So he said today they're going
to thought up, not going to tackle to the ground.
But I think we will have some live tackling periods
over the course of this training camp, and I think
that we will get the scene right to play football.
It's sincey Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Pittsburgh out of

(46:42):
the gate. There is no time to kind of get
your footing. You have those division games that everybody says,
count double two of them right away, like you need
to be Nobody plays their best football in September, but
you need to play the best that you can play
in September this September.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Absolutely. A couple other things real quickly here. You mentioned
Miles he is again in the ninety nine club in Madden. Yeah,
appropriate the others in that group, Lamar Jackson, Jamar Chase,
sa Kuon Barkley, Justin Jefferson, Josh Allen, and Lane Johnson.
So those are your lists. We will we have what
three of those on our schedule?

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Lamar justin.

Speaker 7 (47:22):
We don't play.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Do we play the Bills later in the season, That's right,
we do.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, yep, they'll all be there.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
How about Corderol Patterson newsman, that was funny tweet. It's
a great breaking news. Pittsburgh Steelers released old, washed up
Cordero Patterson on his day off.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, he wrote that it was very good. He wrote
that he wrote it. He tweeted that exact.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
That's the exact tweet. Yep, yep. A couple other things
around the league, the Commanders and wide receiver Terry McLaurin.
He's now a hold in. So Jamar Chase did this
last year, McLaurin doing it this year in Washington. That's
usually the bridge it is because I think he's being
fairly paid. Yes, I'm sure he just wants one more
guarantee is probably what it's after for him. But at

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the same time, like to me, seems very.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
Fairly appropriately compensated.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah, but usually that's an off ramp to get something,
to get something done in the short term. Matthew Stafford's
going to mispractice again this week with continued back soreness.
McVeigh said, it's not a setback. Gold remains to have
Stafford ready week one. That's one of those ones where
like if it's a promine September, it's a PROMI it's July.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Yeah, it is July.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, not for long, No, But Shamar Stewart finally signed
his deal over the weekend with the Bengals. He got
his way as he should, right as he should. So
he got all of that nonsense, all of the vitrio,
all the stuff back and forth. He gets his way
as he should have.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
And it's like, come on, man, and now that all
the attention there is going to be on Trey Hendrickson. Right,
But they didn't need it to get to this of course.
That there's no reason of Duke Tobin saying he's getting
bad advice and all this, you know, like there was
no reason for it. It all ended the same way
it was inevitably going to end it do it to
begin with exactly? Of course that's too easy, right, that's
too that's doesn't feel like that's the way down there.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
For whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Pro Bowl left tackle Reshawn Slater gets paid his extension
four years, one hundred and fourteen makes him the highest
paid offensive lineman in NFL history. That happened over the
weekend as well, and Eli Apple onto another team. He
is signing with the forty nine Ers.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
So there you go.

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Speaker 4 (50:18):
We are very happy to talk about Rainbow Day today
and to do that from our great partners at University Hospitals.
We Welcome in Marissa Thiefer, who was recently appointed the
president of UH Rainbow Babies and Children's and UH McDonald
Women's Hospitals in June of twenty five. Marissa, welcome to
the program and welcome to your new role as the president.

Speaker 14 (50:38):
Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here. Great to see you.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
All right, let's start off with just kind of your background.
What was it about UH Rainbow that drew you to
this job here in Cleveland.

Speaker 15 (50:48):
Yeah, I think Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital has an
amazing reputation both locally as well as nationally, and I
was excited to be able to be part of the
next generation that will be Rainbow. And I think there's
a lot of exciting things on the horizon and I
really wanted to be a part of that.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
So as a new father myself, I've got a sixth
week and three day old as well as I got
a couple of kids in high school. So what advice
do you have for us parents who are running around
with them for longevity, for staying healthy, staying in shape.
I know you're a distance runner and run marathons. Goodness gracious,
I could not do that. What's the secret.

Speaker 15 (51:28):
Yeah, I think staying healthy, staying active, eating well, making
sure that you can continue to take care of yourself
so that you can take care of those kiddos and
be active with them.

Speaker 14 (51:42):
I think at Rainbow, you.

Speaker 15 (51:44):
Know, we really look at and university hospitals, look at
Pewee to pro and we think that of the people
like us parents.

Speaker 14 (51:51):
I was a one time marathon runner.

Speaker 15 (51:54):
Wow, get out there as much as I can and
certainly try and chase my kiddos around the crosscun course.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
And they do it now right, they're competitive distance runners themselves.
Coming in here to Ohio and obviously kind of having
a new state, a new group to acclimate with.

Speaker 14 (52:12):
My daughter's really excited to be able to run cross
country with her team at Hathaway Brown and so she's
already started integrating in with a team and doing distance runs.
She's enjoying the Cleveland.

Speaker 15 (52:24):
Weather much more than the Houston weather, where it is
hot and humid and I have to start practice at
five am, So she's enjoying that much more. The hills
are definitely a little bit more brutal here in Cleveland
than they are in Houston.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Yeah, a little flatter, but definitely You're right, very very
hot down there.

Speaker 10 (52:42):
Now.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
You also spend some time in Indianapolis, and I already
have a relationship with the Indianapolis Colts when you were
in there at Riley Children's Who was your favorite cult
of all time?

Speaker 15 (52:50):
My favorite Colt of all time would have to be
Andrew Luck. I was at Riley Children's Health. He had
a huge partnership and a huge heart for the kids
at Riley, and so spend a lot of time with him,
and so he's just an amazing person, an amazing player. Certainly,
we have to appreciate Peyton Manning as well, but I
think I got to spend time with Andrew so really

(53:11):
appreciated him.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
When he come in as Civil War regalia, you know,
is a lot of people think he looks like an
old Civil War general and they have those fake that
Twitter accounts.

Speaker 14 (53:19):
For that he did that he came in. He came
in as a football player.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
I think that's probably what he's appreciated more than that.
So when you come to a place like uh, you've
got this great relationship with the Browns, and we're so
thankful for the partnership, how capful in bringing special experiences
like you talked about with Andrew Luck and now having
the opportunity with you know, the Cleveland Browns to give
that to the patients and their caregivers.

Speaker 15 (53:43):
I think that is what is so special for a
children's hospital. I think we can make it fun and
we can have that opportunity to have partnerships with in
with teams like the Cleveland Browns to come in and
really bring some light and some joy to patient that
are having a hard time in the hospital and their
families as well. They truly love it, and so I'm

(54:05):
excited to really be able to participate in those visits
with the players and really be able to bring some
smiles to the faces of our kiddos.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
That's a beautiful thing, and I know our players certainly
love the opportunity when they get to go and do
that and are thankful for this partnership because that fills
your cup, you know, when you get to be impactful
and help the young kids who need it and who
are going through very difficult times in their families as well.
To kind of wrap this up, what can you tell
us about Rainbow Day?

Speaker 3 (54:31):
What does it mean?

Speaker 4 (54:31):
And how can people get involved if they'd like to Yeah,
we are.

Speaker 14 (54:35):
So excited to be able to have some of our caregivers.

Speaker 15 (54:37):
So we've got about one hundred and fifty of our
University Hospital Rainbow babies and children's caregivers that are going
to be out there.

Speaker 14 (54:44):
We have some of our students that will be there.

Speaker 15 (54:47):
And so it's really coming out to training camp and
spending some time getting to see the players, getting to
see our kids, and it's the time for our caregivers
just to have fun with a really important partner like
the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Only honored to host Rainbow Day.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Excited to see you and everybody out there and hopefully
put a lot of smiles on some very deserving faces.

Speaker 14 (55:07):
Absolutely can't wait.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
I can't wait to see it all right, Bressa, thanks
so much for the time.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Thank you, and it is on as we are back
live out here at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus on
Rainbow's Day. Merely vou the great Z and the great
Siciliano here as well. Happy happy first day in pads, friends,
first day in pads. We've got some quarterback developments as well.
With the injury to pick it, we haven't a chance
to really talk about it. Kevin didn't give a whole

(55:32):
lot said day to day, but it kind of I
kind of ran into it that maybe it could be
like this set of practices, maybe through Wednesday through I.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Did not sense any concern. How about that I was
standing over there.

Speaker 12 (55:47):
When he gave the news or gave the rundown, said
that Kenny felt something at the end of the session Saturday, Nathan,
I heard you talking before about how Kenny seemed fined. Afterwards,
Bernie did to sit down with him. You and I
were talking with him after practice. He walked inside Saturday,
you know, seemingly unbothered by anything other than the heat,
which is what we're all bothered by. I don't get
the sense that this is in any way a long

(56:09):
term injury. I'm gonna go silver lining here, which you
guys did earlier as well. You don't want to see
anyone hurt. This isn't an injury. This is just, I think,
a temporary setback. But it does give the other guys
an opportunity. You can make a good argument that four
quarterbacks is too many to get in real work.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Three is a little bit more manageable. So we'll see
what the other three do today.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
What would you like to see the play today. It
sounds like we're gonna see a lot of Joe Flacco.
We had said earlier we would love to see the
rookies get a lot more of those reps today, But
I think it's a delicate balance, right, because they've got
to be ready for him, and you also want to
makeure everybody else is getting very good work, and certainly
Joe Flacco is gonna ensure that they do.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
There's no right answer.

Speaker 12 (56:47):
I want to see the offense make make some big plays,
take some shots down the field, and actually get some
chunk plays. Defense has been winning camp seemingly every day.
So I want to see the offense, regardless of who
the quarterback is. And yes, I want to see the kids.
We all do, we all do, but I would like
to see the offense actually get into a decent rhythm.
I also think we'll find out a lot more about
the old line. Mike Bloomgren was on the podium earlier today,

(57:10):
And like with any position, but old line especially and
D line for that matter, like it's not real until
you put on pads, that's right. Du said in June
when asked about somebody he goes, I don't know, we're
in pajamas now, you know, call me, call me in
July when we put on some people.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Are in pajamas today. I had to get out of that.
I had to get out of that. Yeah, I think
that's gonna be you want to see that line. I
thought that the offense bounce back on Saturday, not to
say that they won the day, but especially certainly. Yeah,
they at least had some positivity after Friday was totally
off last week.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
I think the thing when you when you do get
into this pad work beyond the quarterback and offensive operation.
I mean, I think the guy we took for overall,
like this is Mason Graham's time to eat.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
He's been Rikan avoct man.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But now you got pads, yeah, and now you can
now you can see it. It's when they're in shells
or Kevin called them spiders, those those lightweight pads they
wear underneath. You know, it's hard to kind of see
the impact a player can have. But when you put
on the pads and you're a d tackle, now you
can see some things. So I'll be watching him today.

Speaker 12 (58:15):
I also think the key thing today and I'm sure
matter fract Kevin said it earlier. He has preached this,
We're not going to the ground. We're thudding and you
need to make sure that the aggression and you'll see
more today. Certainly that's everyone's excited is controlled. We We've
seen the skirmisher two around the league today. You saw

(58:35):
in Green Bay Nate Hobbs, the former Raider who they
gave a nice contract to in the offseason, go low
on somebody.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
The rookie running back Marshaun Lloyd.

Speaker 12 (58:45):
Second year back, second year back at a USC and
Marshaw that was the end of his practice, hit him low.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
So we gotta gotta be careful.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Yeah, you want to get great work, professional tamates exactly
and keep everybody healthy, keep every but hey upright. Yeah,
but I'm excited to see that, Lully. I'm hopeful we
get some one on ones, you know in the pads.
That's always fun to watch, especially some O line D
line at the corners and the receivers going. You should
get some blitz pick up, you know, and that'll be
especially for our young running backs.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
That's gonna be critically important for them.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
Dylan Samson has an opportunity. I think to really have
a role here, especially as we wait for you know,
quin Shawn Jenkins legal issues to resolve themselves and to
see him, you know, sign his contract and get here.
He's got a real opportunity, I think to play a
big role, certainly early on. And if you can pass protect,
you always can be on the field. He is electric.
We've seen that already, so that'll be a big thing

(59:38):
for him.

Speaker 12 (59:39):
It's the only thing most head coaches or any coach
for that matter, want to know about any rookie running back.
Can I trust him on third death period? And if
I can't, then you're not gonna be on the field.
So you know, Quinchawn's teammate Trayvon Henderson who's up in
New England, that that was something that he.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Was great, he excels at right. That was the one
running back, the one of all of them.

Speaker 12 (59:58):
Yeah, quinch On And clearly you could circle in this
year's running back class where you could say I will
never doubt him on the third down. Every other runner,
every other rookie running back is a work in progress.

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
Yeah, that's and that's like, as you said, that is
the magic And if you're going to be a team
that's going to be running play action and you know
a lot of times you're just trying to get to
a third and manageable. If you want to be on
the field on those money downs, you have got to
be able to protect the quarterback and it can't be
a thought about some Jerome Ford does very well. Now
he said he's going to be limited today, so he's
doing some running over there right now. With the offense,

(01:00:29):
they're just running some of their run plays on air,
some of the pooling, you know, some of that power
that the Browns like to run. They're running that on air,
and Jerme Ford's getting some of those reps. But when
they're going one on ones and they're doing live tackling,
he's not going to get any of those kind of
blocking up. So again a big day for Dylan Samson
is now the quarterbacks and the receivers, they're throwing some
routes on air over there is everybody kind of just

(01:00:49):
going through some early things here. And this is what
we saw last year is that on the first day
of pads. You know, last time it was I think
all individual work and position group work on pads to
in pads the first day, So I'm curiously if we
actually will get some more than that today, which would
I think be another sign that, yes, this camp is
going to be different than some of the camps that

(01:01:10):
we have run in the past since.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
The injury to pick it and again is just warming
up right now, but it's been Flacco Gabriel Sanders in
that order is kind of in the way is it
kind of run through their work over there. They were
doing a lot of handoffs now and done, just kind
of running some routes. Getting warm and Joe went first,
and then Dylan and then should or which is to
be expected.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Getting warm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
It is warm. Just get the origin. That's the way.

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
If you loosen that'll you get the old arm ready
to roll. So warm like you've been.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
In like in Emery when you were training to be
a flag football champion.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
You must have you were in this Atlanta. This is
this is what it feels like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, by a little hotter though, by the way, a
little more human.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Nana the official Dana says that she has heard from
a reliable source that this has been the most humid
summer ever in Cleveland history.

Speaker 12 (01:01:57):
You know, the heat index was actually higher on Thursday.
Right now, I just checked on my phone. Eight right now,
I don't believe that. I think it's higher. But on
Thursdays one o two, we're not. We're in a tent
tent right now. We're efforting fans. We go speak of
the we we all legend. Tip of the captain Young

(01:02:19):
Gabriel as well back today who was acting as bouncer,
trying so we have a clear vision of the field,
clear the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Path for coach McGrath Sociliana. You know this about young Gabriel.
He always enter situations in a big.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Way, big way. He's a big way. He's big time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah. Yeah, so you know now like that right under
my ship, I think it's coming. It's gonna we get
it all set up. That's a great effort, very good.
You know what you did a legend. You need vacation dropping.
I was just back from Japan. We talked about this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:02:49):
Uh, those little fans they walk around right, did you
see him? You need those little fans.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Some people are walking around with him.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
I might need to get that doctor joson living together hysteria. Yeah,
I look at Jay's pulling the sled by himself because
it's in the way of the shot.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Yeah, do what you gotta do with doctor Jake's still
in tremendous condition.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Coming up later, he's gonna pull a pickup truck in
the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You can't say he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
I can't say what. You can't say what. I certainly
can't you imag what were you saying? I was gonna
little fans they walk around. Yeah, we need those. Yeah,
some handhelds exactly. We need to handhelds, the personal cooling devices.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
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Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
Are you easing it hotter in the last five minutes.

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Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
That's good to see the previous Rep. Luke Floria local legend, Greg.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
News Gabriel going up top looking for Caden Davis ended
up being a back shoulder back Sean Money probably would
have wanted out in front.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
Would have been a touchout, good catch, good ball.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Can we give a little props to cammy Justice Award winner? Look,
look see how she's got's the angle, but she's staying low.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Gabriel a little behind.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
It's got that's a good route by Thrash though a
lot of separation. That's one that you that's got to
be an automatic here. And then on the other side,
what we get your door doing the backs and linebackers.
Gabriel looking up top, they're trying some wor vertical.

Speaker 12 (01:05:00):
Oh, that's a good bucket there, Abody Gauge, he's made
some plays here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
It is Luke Florian Gauge, Lard van Kind, all right, sure,
a little stopped inside. Can't have that ball inside there
looking for Deontay Johnson, and Deontay says, you need that
on my right side. My friend, h Deontay Johnson and
red zone touchdown. Should again, that's a good ball right there.

(01:05:29):
DeAndre Carr. Receivers having a little more success in the
pads than they did outside of the pads, and these
one on ones, which is good to see.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Should again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Oh that was really cool man right at us, way
before he even thought about breaking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Was anticipatory. That was a butte.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
Yeah, that was clerk.

Speaker 12 (01:05:50):
Is a butte to McDonald wearing William Green's old number
thirty one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
There you go, hey, you want to see completion. They
should all be complete, should all be This is one on.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
The ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
This is layup stuff. Boys.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Oh Flacco looking right there for the guy who joined
the team the other day, looking for him out in
front a little too far out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Shoot has got a really good swag game going today too,
may say. With the tights and the he's got the
sleeve on the one, he's got the towel, got the
sweat towel, got everything about the operation looks pretty good
for to say today.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Know what I noticed as well on Shador that I
hadn't seen in days prior. Is uh other packs a
little screen right there getting the block out. I like
that he's got a wristband on his right in the
pouch if he's got like a handwarmer pocket there. But
he's got a wristband with all the plays on it
right there, which is good.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
He's got it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
This is a whole new language for him right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Oh, Denzel Ward, right through the block at Jerry Judy
right there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Yeah, I got a barbecue.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Didn't invite me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Lynch was excited about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Today is the day for handwarmers.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Yeah, well I think it's more Yeah, obviously very you
know exactly right now, Denzel Ward, though the physicality, loved
to see it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
I like this as a drill. Get that bubble screen.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
And you're a receiver in this offense, You've got to
be able to block, and that's obviously in the run game,
but right now you're getting in the pass game. Deyontay
Johnson on the other side, did a good job right
there for DeAndre Carter. Yeahde Carter's had a little bit
of a nice camp he has.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
You have noticed in pomp A little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Yeah, he's giving you a little more as a receiver
than maybe you would have thought. He had that big
season once obviously down with the Chargers was his career
high in receiving yards over five hundred that year, and
he's an excellent returner.

Speaker 12 (01:07:34):
Had a nice toe tap back of the end zone
Friday in a red zone drill as well, right before
said for Tilman went down with that injury, which thankfully.

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
Was not serious.

Speaker 15 (01:07:44):
To be.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
This is the good stuff here, man, Yeah, Dylan Gabriel
right now, So the quarterbacks are rotating through. On one
half of the field in front of us, you're getting
wide receivers and on the other half you're getting the
tight ends the running backs.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
They're doing some blitzing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
It looks like as well some pas ask protection with
linebackers and running backs over there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
And you got good eyes and you're also taller. I
can't see you over there, just trying to, you know,
trying to scout it out for the people.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
I am a little bummed that we're not see line
D line one on what's going on? Is that far
corner right on the other side of the field goal
post over there?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Okay, oh yeah, I got you I got you give.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Maybe not all right now we're getting a little slot
reps right now. So that's Luke Floria. McDonald's still on
the screens.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Quarterback, the.

Speaker 12 (01:08:36):
Gauge gauge Luke Florier, will Luke Floria big a part
they will They're going to rip up the preseason.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Well, the question is can can you can you make it?

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Can you make it?

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
I mean, let me tell you something I believe outside
of Jerry Judy, I think Jerry Judy, Cedric Tillman, and
DeAndre Carter provide that he states healthy, I think those
three spots are pretty safe.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
I think other than that it is up for grabs.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Well, it's and you remember, Kevin even in mini camp,
was told the Theling story so many times yep, in
regard to receiver right about how it came. You know,
guy comes out of nowhere, undrafted and sets the world
on fire.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
So you can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
And this, of all the position rooms where that could happen,
that's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
He's the one here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yeah, absolutely, Because there's just you know, I still kind
of wonder if they would think about adding somebody, should
they be there's a lot of free agents still out there. Unsigned.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Maris still unsigned.

Speaker 12 (01:09:31):
I know he is why I would say this about
making it fifty three and forty eight might be tough,
but practice squad absolutely, I'd be surprised if for sure one,
if not both, were not on the practice wall.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
They have to go out there and play these three games.

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
No, but you've seen the trend around the league and
now is basically, if you're here in camp and they
like you at all, you stay on the practice squad.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Teams are not.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Practice squads are being made up primarily of people in
your training camps. Yeah, more so than poaching from others
around the league with.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
The new CBA. Those are good paying American jobs. Yeah,
like it is not. It is not a bad thing
to be on the practice squad.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
No, all right, Bright, it looks like we're gonna get
eleven on eleven here, might kind of go through it.
So Alex Wright and Isaiah MacGuire at the end. So
that means no Miles Garrett Grant Delpit is also not
participating in this right now. Carson Swessinger at the mic. Linebacker.
Joe Flacco is your quarterback in the middle there, Joe

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Flacco to the sideline, complete to Jamari Thrash on a
little speed out. Looks like this is a a two
minute drill, so the defense willing to give up underneath
as they're going hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. So
a little two minute drill work in the pads, a
little handoff to Pierre Strong off the right side, and
you can tell this is two plays then all new

(01:10:56):
huh yeah, two plays and then everybody out. So they're
just practicing like kind of a run a play, get up,
run another play. And that second one was certainly half speed,
very half speed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Very half speed.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
On the second one, it was isay I m acquire
at left end too, and Alex right at right end,
and then Dylan Gabriel with the two's right now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Cam Thomas planned left end.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Yeah, this is this is quarter speed Gabriel, Deontay Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
An elevated walkthrough almost Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
And that's just practicing the mechanics. And I bet later
we'll see them come back to this but with more
zest and gusto.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
So it's a pass play and then a little run
right out of it. And now Shadure and the threes.
His wholesale changes happened once again, so going through it
in the pads in the heat right now, just getting

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those two plays kind of hurry up styles. So you're
going to throw a pass out to the sidel my guess,
and then they're gonna get up and try to run
another play quickly out of that, and then maybe we'll
see some more what I would call intense action.

Speaker 7 (01:12:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Absolutely, that first one from Flacco lead led me to
believe that it was going to be a little bit more. Yeah,
I have a little more juice to it. And then
they kind of took the foot off the accelerator a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Here's your doure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
There's a little lab about to gauge on the sideline. Everybody,
get up, get up, get up, get up, get up,
and they get the run and they're going to get
the run playoff after it. So Pacchin situational football. That's
always so important. The teams that are the best going
into the first half end of the game, those teams
often win.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
That's where you can sure do. That's what the Patriots
are always so great at.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Getting that double up where you defer, you score going
into halftime, get the ball score again and can put
you know, fourteen points on somebody and turn a game
that's at one point seven to seven, twenty one to
seven before they ever touched the ball again.

Speaker 12 (01:12:53):
For what it's worth, that's the rookie of Moni Marshall
from app State with the threes. And running back Jerome
Ford is back out there, but not running a team today.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Yep, we got another running back in here. We haven't
did we mentioned that? We mentioned that at the top.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
I think we know we may have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
We may have missed that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Yeah, yeah, So the team signed running back. Do you
know the pronunciation on this one? Andrew, I'm gonna go
with toa taua toa.

Speaker 12 (01:13:19):
That is my first pass, Okay, I like it for
the former Michigan panther legend of the UFL.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Yep led the UFL in rushing touchdowns last season out
of Nevada, like Joel Beatonio.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
All right, we're going to a special teams period, so
we're going to take a quick time out right now
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Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
We left you as they were doing a special team session,
and now we're gonna get some more work in and
we're joined by the legend the great Bernie Kozar here
as well, and Bernie, you and Ze you spoke to
Kenny Saturday after the practice. That's kind of the headliner
today is that he's not out here with a hamstring,
Kevin Stefanski saying earlier that it's, you know, day to day,
but it could be a couple of days. We'll see. Obviously,

(01:14:45):
there's no inclination that anything was wrong on Saturday, and
so this is something that popped up after practice. Yeah,
let me I heard.

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
There's some obscure Internet rumors out there that Bernie Cosar
is so lacking and wanting to get back on the field.
Old my skills have deteriorated. So the only way for
me to get back is I tackled Kenny Pickett and
he had a little hamstring issue. But let the record
show Nathan that when we did an interview and post

(01:15:12):
practice on Saturday, and his last pass was a gorgeous
sprint out right off of a play action bootleg to
throw a perfectly timed and throw them touchdown pass and
then to watch him walk over to our interview and
then walk away without limping.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
I'm hoping that it's not too bad a hamstring issue.
You would have to think, yeah, because as much.

Speaker 10 (01:15:35):
As people say kind of you want to miss training
camp early and it it's imperatively important for timing this
time of the year. So him getting out here and
getting back and hopefully in not being as bad because
that would be so detrimental too.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Yeah, it feels to me like this is again we
saw him on. It feels like this is an abundance
of caution situation. And I really think Bernie that if
they have to hold him out these three days to
be one hundred percent sure that he'll be good and
ready for when we go to Carolina and we go
to Philadelphia, I think those reps are the reps that
he really is going to need.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
And so that's that's what I think it is.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
Here.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
Looks like we're setting up right now for an eleven
on eleven full eleven on eleven impads for the Browns
on the defensive side. Again, it's gonna be Isaiah McGuire
at one end it is gonna be Alex right, the
other Malie Collins, Mason Graham. In the middle linebackers, you've
got Mahmoud Diabat. You've got Carson Sweesssinger out there as well.
Your safeties are Chris Edmonds and Ronnie Hickman. I've said

(01:16:31):
that name, Chris Edmonds, and I'll say it again. He
is getting these reps with delp it out ahead of
Demonte Casey, ahead of Rayshawn Jenkins, so he and ahead
of Nick Neaed and three veterans in the league they have.
Coach Bonda has talked about it. He has liked him
a great deal and he's out here so Brown oh yeah,
and his his movement skills in terms of the GPS

(01:16:53):
tracking are incredible at his size, Browns and based defense.
The three linebackers are Bush Swessinger at the mike and
d Batte, Joe Flacco in the shotgun, Bernie Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:17:02):
And with these shorter preseason games with only three of them,
it's imperative to get reps like this. So when when
you're an undrafted free agent getting reps in front of
guys on a daylight today.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
That's you need to take advantage of.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
That had kind of a bunch formation off to Joe
Flacco's right through a little receiver screen swallowed up. We
couldn't see it because of the but it wasn't swallowed up. Yes,
but I could tell on Grant Delpit's reaction that it
was a very nice play for the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Yes, they came out two tight ends.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
They had both of them to the right, Fannin and
a Djoku, and then tried to use them as blockers
front a little swing out to Pierre Strong and the
Browns defense was all over at Flacco again. Here in
the shotgun, Dylan Samson off of his right hip got
a tight condensed formation trying inside hand off there Dylan Samson.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
He I like the way that he kind of whippering.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Yeah, he gets through the hole. There's a lot of
burst right there, and that's helpful and he could get
lost in there. Not a not a big guy, but quick,
explosive slight of.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Size, but if you if you can go through the
riggers of an sec and obviously was dinged up by
the time they got to the highest state game. But
that's gonna be the challenge. It's just the player of
the year in the conference.

Speaker 12 (01:18:11):
He still ran for fifteen hundred yards right size in
the sec right, Yes, you said, Tilman out there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
Two days in a row as well, Flacco under center.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
They got two tight ends again, Blake Whiteheart the second
play action looking over the middle of top Tilman good
contested catch with Greg Noose and draped.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
All over him.

Speaker 4 (01:18:29):
And that's what he has when he had that little
stretch those three games. It's his size, it's the size
speed combo his ability on those slants britty. When you
have a guy that you know can use his body
as a shield makes it a lot easier on a quarterback.

Speaker 10 (01:18:42):
Yeah, Cedric Tilman has been really growing the strength of
his hands and the use of his hands. And you
saw there it was a high throw that he grabbed
up above his helmet and grabbed it crisply with his hands.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
And that's a big change for young quarterbacks out there.

Speaker 10 (01:18:58):
In my day, he didn't want to the ball from
the chest upwards because of the safety's being allowed to
decapitate you and hit you. Now with a defenseless player rule,
a lot of quarterbacks are gearing for the above the
shoulder pads throw and that's really astuid because the defensive
backs aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Allowed to hit you there.

Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
And Joe Flacco, a crafty veteran with arm talent to
throw at eighteen yards downfield.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Was spectacular to watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
We did get Denzel Ward, he was they was out there.
They're getting some work in. So it's just of the
of the main What have we got just Del Well,
we got Delpit and then Miles.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Yeah, there's Joe actually.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Action a little tight end screen and the Browns defense
all over that one once again as they've been very quick.
Something I noticed here on the line, No Jack Conklin,
no Joel Botonio. It was Cornelius Lucas at right tackle,
and then it was number sixty nine. I think it's
Landon Thompson if I have that. Lorenzo Thompson's playing guard,
so he was in it left guard there. Last year

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he had worked kind of as a tackle and there
at left guard him enter ahead of Tevin Jenkins, which
is interesting though I thought I saw Tevin Jenkins dressed,
but not incorrect.

Speaker 12 (01:20:08):
I think Kevin said Tevin Jenkins was not going to
do team today. By the way, Mike Bloomgren talking up
Zack Center in a big way.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
This morning on the podium he needs a big gear man.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
All right, here we go, Shador Sanders with the twos
ball out to the left, quick, Luke Floria.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
There is again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
I mean it's one of those things you're saying.

Speaker 10 (01:20:26):
His name is consistently separation.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Yeah, he's gonna he's projecting early all berea team, right,
we get some of those guys every year.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
That's what he's projecting.

Speaker 12 (01:20:36):
Bernie too, he's and again look, first day in pads,
no one's hitting, but he's been pretty consistently making that
first guy miss.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
And creating a separation.

Speaker 10 (01:20:49):
Then, the one barometer that you could take out of
early training camp practices without pads is defensive backs and
wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
There's still an element of sure, you.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Can either get open or you can't with or without pads.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
So he did.

Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
He's doing it today again.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
With pads on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:07):
Shador quick decision gets it out to the flat in
rhythm there, and that is a I'm pretty sure that's
our newest member there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
That is yeah toaha, and he is a toa that
we're going on with. We're going with that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
We said it emphatically. It must be sure.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
He's a bowling ball, is a big guy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
Five nine two fifteen so strong North South runner led
the UFL and rushing touchdowns last season, and you know
you needed another guy in there, and that's that gives
him a little bit different of a body type obviously,
especially with quinch On Judkins missing from camp right now.

Speaker 12 (01:21:39):
Thirty five suits and well thirty five has always been
a bigger running back. Harrison all right, little screen out
to the side.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
Luke Flory again, good job on the outside though, the
defense closing that one down and making sure that was
not going to be a big play here. And so
they're working on obviously getting the ball out quick. They're
doing that, getting some good reps to Monte Kyzy, the
veteran sniffed that out and made a good play on
the right side.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
That's a safety room.

Speaker 7 (01:22:04):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
If Edmunds is and it feels like he is in
the eyes of the coaches, has moved up in a
big way. I talk with Grant Delpit about that earlier today.
You know, Delpit, Hickman, Edmunds feel like your top three.
And then you've got some real veterans competing for those
final spots, Rayshawn Jenkins, de Monte Kayes who have been
in the league a long time and Shador in the shotgun.
It's guy's running back. It looks like Pierre strung off

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the left tips ends the tight end in motion left
right across the formation, play action, drops back under pressure,
under pressure, and then he's went up to the.

Speaker 7 (01:22:39):
Your guy.

Speaker 10 (01:22:40):
You know, I was about to say, you know, I
got the chance before practice. It's taught to Kenny Pickett
a little bit and Dylan Gabriel and looking forward to
seeing Shador this next couple of days. Were reflecting over
the weekend of the first couple of days of practice
and stuff massively impressive, both young quarterbacks and their ability
to end anticipate throws and there just like we saw

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with Shador staying staying calm in the pocket, I staying
downfield as he climbed in the pocket and I ran
up in the pocket, and then finding a guy thirty
five yards downfield and him too.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
It looks like he just threw it up.

Speaker 10 (01:23:15):
He on purpose threw that eight yards high in the
air to the back of the end zone where only
his receiver could get that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
That was cool.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
That was unbelievable because cam Mitchell, I think I'm gonna
intercept this ball.

Speaker 10 (01:23:32):
It was as accurate as Joe Flacco's eighteen yard scene
for him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Sure that was that was a heck of a ball, Bernie.

Speaker 12 (01:23:39):
Isn't it important to to see or do that moving
up in the pocket where he had a tendency at
Colorado to drift backwards.

Speaker 10 (01:23:46):
Absolutely, you could see that a various due point andrew
that that drifting, that unsettled footwork and now being committed
moving up, stepping up, keeping the eyes downfield and making
a play.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
That's that's as good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
That's trust, right, Bernie. Trust That means you trust what's
going on around you. Then I'm good in here, I'm
safe and in Colorado. I'm not sure he trusts. I
mean he was and probably justified least.

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
Yeah right, I'm not as much as I love us
four here on the set, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
They could have blocked us No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Dylan Gabriel now working with the starters, so they went
ones two's back to the one, Dylan Gabriel. The ones
there right there, that was kind of a sprint out
to the right got fleshed out. So he's moving remember
he's left handed. Yeah, and threw a really nice ball,
flipped his hips through a nice ball right there to
Jerry Judy who had sat down in a soft spot
in the zone. And that's good to see. When you're lefty,
obviously you're always more comfortable, I'm sure going to your right, Bernie.

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But that's these rollouts and part of this game and
the keepers for him to be able to go right
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
That was a very good ball for Dylan.

Speaker 10 (01:24:46):
Gabriel spending time with Dylan today asking him like, hey,
if it's cover zero or or what do you kind
of yearn for or bluntly lust for in terms of
defenses and our plays, and he equivocally went right to
I love getting my fast receivers downfield running with separation

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and that type of mindset to the play action overs
that we're implementing into this system. And with coach Musgraves
saying how Dylan's picked up on his under center footwork
and play action game that I think that will add
to his ability to be productive in that intermediate throws.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
Now, Gabriel with the threes as they kind of just
rotate them in and out. Bad snap from Ethan Posak
on the last one ball was on the ground. That
would have been a big loss in a sack Gabriel
three right there, stuck it right in there to gauge
Lavardian on a quick little off the right. Yeah, he's
had he's playing great, Lardavan. I want to call him
Levarti and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
I needed.

Speaker 12 (01:25:49):
The only reason I'm saying to right is because I
ran into him at the hotel and you got during
during rookie medicamp and I'm like, dude, how many how
many ways is your.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Name mispronounced page Lardevin And he set me straight. I'm like,
all right, we're on the same page.

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
That was a heck of a throw right there because
he had to get it in Bernie between the linebacker
who was widening and the corner there. And that was
a great ball from Dylan Gabriel. But when you're working
on those windows, that's right, you're thrown into the window.
But you can't be late with that otherwise that linebacker
undercovers it up cuts it.

Speaker 10 (01:26:22):
And as we said on the show, and watch them
practice Friday and Saturday, sometimes he let.

Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
A couple go overthrew the bow out wide.

Speaker 7 (01:26:29):
And then maybe a little bit in the traffic on
the middle read.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
You could see he thought about it.

Speaker 10 (01:26:34):
Over the weekend and made an adjustments with it and
improved and hasn't done that yet and now has figured
out a way to execute and get those guys running
like that. And I do believe with his play action
away coach Musk Graves says he's picking up on the
play action footwork underneath that that'll actually really help his game.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
Throwing these kind of overs that that you do within
the Kevin's fancy Gabriel and shot gun boots to the left.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
Has to check it down right there as there's a
lot of penetration and unable to make an accurate throw
there looking for the tight end Brendan Bates. But it
looked like right there they wanted to kind of get
him out and run some type of shot play and
the defense blew that up.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Yeah they did, which has been pretty common.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
I was gonna say, a pretty consistent theme.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
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is now hanging out on this side of the field
as they're headed the other way. Joe Flacco in the

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first team offense.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
Here Flacco in the shotgun, got Dylan Samson off his left,
good protection going vertical for Jerry Judy, good coverage from
m j Emerson, and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Yeah, he wanted a flag right there. The defense is no, no, no,
I'm just happy to see a deep shot. I'm by
I'm biased. So that was a little defensive hole. Of course,
take it up a fade, come.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
On off that sells tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Get it, let's get it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
March it down there a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
Hey, And we were just coming out of break on
one of Joe's early plays and man again, I feel
like I'm his marketing wrap.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
But the watch him throw that twenty.

Speaker 10 (01:28:38):
Yard square and he did his Kayden Davis and that
was the third read and he just so footwork and
effortlessly went from the left side of the field back
to the middle right and throws.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
A bullet at eighteen to twenty yards only place.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Exactly so tight he throws, I mean, throws a beautiful
and being able to decide he's doing it, move his
feet and then the boss he leave his.

Speaker 12 (01:29:04):
Hand and he's end up at the receiver Carson Swessinger
in the backfield.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Yeah, and along with Joe try and Showy Inca right
there who came blistering off of the edge, and and
all the.

Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
Compliments I've been giving him, and all the beautiful artistic work.
It's so beautiful to watch Joe Flacco throw. The antithesis
was just that with that run up yards.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
He looks pretty spry. They look No, he looks sprier.

Speaker 12 (01:29:31):
Than me, saying we don't need any more veteran quarterbacks
with hamstring.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
No, just got a jog on those, Joe, He's got
to jog those out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:44):
I got white Heart and fan and their fan in
the slot, little inside hand off out of the shotgun
of Dylan Samson who gets swallowed up by Joe try On.

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
He looks try and showy. Inca does look good for
the first rounder?

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Do we go jts on him? What do you want
to go like JT jts okay.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
To ask him about that? He was a very personal guy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
Yeah, yeah, but he and Miles Garrett immediately went over
and drapped him up after that. That's back to back
plays that he made right there for the Cleveland Browns
and that defensive end room you said it in your
interview with Ronnie Hickman that he played. I mean, they
have been the defensive line and the ends of particular
have been the stars of the early training camp and
it's it's continuing today.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:30:24):
I was completely disrupted the last week's practice. Their athleticism,
quickness and strength was apparent, and a day of rest
has added to that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Killed that was an Alex right sack right there, chance
no chance and Dylan Gabriel and again so we haven't
seen Shador since he had that nice touchdown throat when
Gabriel for a couple sessions then flack on. Now back
to Gabriel and you should we're seeing he's doing everything
he can, obviously to earn more reps and I think
he's been he's been throwing the football very well, and
hopefully we'll see him get you know, more opportunities as

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it goes on.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
I would say, O line depth is a problem. Slight concern, Yeah,
slight concern. Yeah. We talked.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
That was something that we said, you know, the build
up to like, was that depth gonna be there?

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Whoa, hey, whoa.

Speaker 10 (01:31:12):
People have been so fixated on who the quarterback is
and what the system is. That's why it also is
awesome that we've made the personality decision for this offense.
I don't help the offensive line evolve some depth and
toughness and have a running type game and play action.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Early well said on that and on that note, we
got to get out of here. The next level will
continue to paint the pictures on the other side of this.
It's been fun. Thanks for listen, Aboudy Cleveland runs daily,
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