Hearing from Myles Garrett - Cleveland Browns Daily - 6.16.25

Hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski (31:36) and DE Myles Garrett (1:19:32) from mandatory minicamp on this Monday edition of CBD.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
We do it live.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
That doesn't sound like I'm on, am I on? Huh? Doesn't? Now?
Do you get a little uh hey give hi?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
It didn't sound right. It did not sound right. No, no, no,
We've done this a lot.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was on our end. I think we've done it
a lot.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
And so there's a way that it sounds when I
say we're doing it live and the way we go,
and it didn't sound the right way.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
But it is good to see you, buddy. How you living.

Speaker 6 (00:58):
It's Monday, the sun's actually out, of course, it's a
beautiful day.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yesterday was nice.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Yesterday was fantastic. Yesterday was a very nice day. Saturday
pretty much broke me. That was a tough pill to swallow.
On Saturday, it finally stopped raining in my neck of
the woods. Right around one, like twelve thirty one, I
got the email from the club closing the course around
eleven oh eight, which is pretty early on a Saturday

(01:25):
to call it.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
A Saturday in June. Ye, Fathersday, Saturday week that's.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Now, we played yesterday, the boys and I played yesterday,
and we were still cart path only and it was justified.
I could tell you, like it would not have been
good to drive golf carts out it was. It was
still a sponge yesterday. So yes, brutal, brutal.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
On.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
They had a hell of a time at the State
Baseball Softball based State Baseball tournament this weekend down in
Canton and Akron and those they were playing at midnight
on Saturday night, trying to get games in.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
It's tough, tough go of it.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
And I it's we don't need to get It's beautiful yesterday,
it's beautiful today. But it's I don't ever recall a
spring like this in my time here, like just this
much rain. It was so many weekends too, like we
lost so many weekends.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
It was sixty five degrees on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like this.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Isn't This isn't late May where you might get one
of those. This is June's June. Man, it's we're approaching
the the equinox.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Aren't it's this week? Is it fright?

Speaker 5 (02:29):
It's like the twenty first or twenty second. Yeah, we're
almost there. How about how about a little summer weather?
Now it appears the summer weather is coming.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, it seems like we're locked in now, right.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
I believe that the nineties are approaching. We're we're going
to go from sixty to ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
Somebody said this to me on social last week. They said,
we don't really have spring in Ohio. We have cold,
rain and summer. And I'm like, that's pretty good. That's
that's not bad. Yeah, we had football season. Weather's usually
very good in football season.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Of course it is. We can't do anything right like
my golf. Everybody else can We can't. Yeah, we can't.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yeah, correct, I keep doing that with it because I've
got you know, we have training camp. When do we
I know keV said when he was on with us
last week, said forty days or whatever.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
I would think maybe that's last week.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Of July somewhere in there. And I know, Ohigh Estate
is like they're going like the thirtieth, thirty first something
like that. This when they're starting, and I know we're
right around there too, and it's just like I was
doing this with my wife and I'm like, gosh, you know,
I've only got like forty days of thirty some days
a summer before all that.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's like, what are you talking about? We go all
the way into August. I'm like, you do you get
you get to and the boys get to I don't.
That's it, that's the list, man.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
But do your boys really get to because don't they
start like football practice the first weekend.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Football practice will start end of July. Yeah, so they
really don't. Just dumb it is ely it's too early.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that's about. It's yeah,
I don't know. Get that's just how that's youth sports.
That's a show for another day. But it's yeah, it
does seem like it's an awful lot of it, but
it was so.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Anyway, yesterday was great, whether it was great, and it's
it's kind of the realization as I pulled in here today,
you get the youth football camp going on out there.
Our rookies are out there, they are instructing the youth
of America, and now it's camp season.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
We have. It's camp season.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's uh travel baseball obviously still very much going on. Travel,
lacrosse will be going on. You'll do a little bit
of hoops, uh and away you go. So and this
is camp time. What was the best camp you went
to as a kid. Do you have one you really enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I have one that we got into a lot of
trouble in. Well that's part of it.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
Yeah, Tiffin Tiffin University. We ended up there for a
team camp. I'm pretty sure law enforcement got involved at
one point because we try to start something with townies. Sure.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Oh no, I mean it was big city Cleveland. Kid's
gonna go fight some townies from Tiffan.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
We had a we had a couple of rabble rousers
on the squad. I was I was not one of
the type of deal. Yeah, that was fun. We went
to a camp and Hiram I almost got struck by lightning.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Like, I don't.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
I don't know if there was ever like a camp
that you were like that was great, Like you played
in gyms with no air conditioning. Yeah, Like like you'd
go through some of the instruction and you were like,
can I just can we just play the team get
the games, Like we're here as a team.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
We're here's a team. Can we just get to that?

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yeah, can we get to the game portion of the program.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, that that's funny. The like those are outposts. Tiffin
is an outpost him or those are outposts.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah. We played youth sports in Hiram, not in Tiffin,
but we just go through there.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
When we lived in Dublin and we would drive up
to the Connoy that there was a way you would
go that you drive through Tiffin. Those are that's those
are choices to get there.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Man.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Yeah, we never we Camps weren't such a huge deal
like they are now, Like you would go to a
team camp. Yeah, as a high school team.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
You didn't do like we were. It was big like instructional,
Like we would go to the community. Like our high
school basketball coach would always have a camp.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
We'd go to that. Then we'd go to one regional.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
We always had too when you were in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, when you were a little kid, I mean,
and then you'd get you could usually pick between either.
For us, you could pick like the Montana State Basketball
camp at the University of Montana Basketball camp and then
the one that was like the big one that you'd
go to where I grew up was Northwest Basketball Camp.
So those are the ones that we went to. And

(06:24):
to your point, we went to team camp once there
I think going into my senior year basketball and they
have one it's team camp. To your point, you just
want to get to the games, like, let's just play games.
So their setup was always instruction for the morning and
then games in the afternoon and night like that was
the setup. And I'll never forget like them trying to
explain to us that Tuesday was D Day and that

(06:46):
you would not pick up a basketball. And I don't
care what I age you are. If somebody tells you
you're not going to pick up a basketball and you're
just going to play defense for the whole day, that's brutal.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
That is an absolutely brutal thing. And I remember it
at a camp. Yeah, I know they did. That's the
way it was.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
I don't feel good.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
And I was a primary defensive player. Yeah, the offensive
skill set wasn't exactly ideal. There is no way in
hell in the middle of summer that I'm doing that
for a day. Nope, I don't I ate something bad food.
Whatever the case, No way in hell I would have
ever signed up for a camp like that.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
We didn't.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
There weren't like college camps around here.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Well you yeah, you'd have to go down to probably Yeah,
I mean I'm sure Akron had a camp.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I would think.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
I'm sure Bowling Green had camps. Yeah, every college. I
mean that's where they made their money in those days.
That's where all the assistants made their money.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
I guess maybe Cleveland State had one, but maybe it
was a day camp. It was more playing. Yeah, you know,
we I mean we had we had the Nike Summer
League in high school, so like that was kind of
cool because Nike gave us free gear. Yes, and we
and we got to play. It was a team camp,

(08:02):
but like most of it were team camp. I mean
AAU circuit. I was in a different city all the time.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yep. Like so that part you know that that's AAU
was only in the summer, yea, now it's in the spring. Yeah,
well high school still does.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah no, I mean right now they're usually with their teams.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
We would start AAU stuff in like late April, early May,
and we'd go through July. Like middle of July. So yeah, yeah,
we never don't. I don't recall like individual camps. I
just don't. It was more the uh the team camp deal.
How did your son do? Uh? An alliance?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
They did all right? I think yeah, I think they
bounced around all right. That was kind of a nice one.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
They flew.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
That was a Sunday night, Monday night or Sunday, just
one night.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
It was just a bunch of they played.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Like fourteen games in two days. So so yeah, so that
was a win. I yeah, camp season, So that's that's
what happens. We got I mean starting this week we're
traveling all weekend with lacrosse.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
So we're all summer with lacrosse. So that starts this weekend.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
My best friend from college, I looked at pictures of
him this weekend holding up a tent and basically a
tornado in Georgia at a lacrosse tournament. Oh because of
the Yeah, I sent him a message yesterday wishing him
a happy Father's Day. I said, congratulations on I hope
you're still alive and glad to see that you survived

(09:29):
the carnage that looked like a bunch of tents that
were just torn to shreds. I'm like, isn't it isn't
you sports great?

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Something awesome?

Speaker 5 (09:39):
It's something, man, there's a lot of it there, certainly
is it's and the experiences are all over the map.
I want to ask you about your experience watching the
United States Open. How much did you watch this weekend? So,
I mean Saturday, we were pretty kind of couldn't do much.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
So that ended up being, hey, we're going to run
a bunch of errands because we had twenty two people
at our house last night for dinner. You know, it's
a small gathering on the family front, so the wife
and I were running around. However, I when the majors
are on and I can't watch them. I have gotten
to the point if you have serious XM's. The golf

(10:18):
play by play is pretty legit.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's good.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
I mean, Turrico's on it. They've got other guys like
the guys that you would see from other networks are
doing the US Open, even though the US opens on NBC.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
YEP.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
So I got to listen to a ton of it,
and then yesterday I didn't get to watch much, but
I went back and watched Somehow they condensed the entire
final round into forty five minutes. Oh for the top
four groups. Okay, So I watched that and then I

(10:53):
watched some other highlights as well. You know, I watched
Friday and then I watch part of Saturday Sunday. I
had it on, but we were entertaining at that point.
But so I got I caught up on everything last night.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
I thought it was I found it interesting. And a
buddy mine text me is like, is this the idea?
Is this what the US Open is?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Now?

Speaker 5 (11:15):
It's just brutal golf where the course wins and it's
just about survival, and it's kind of random who wins
because you need a lot of luck depending on the
lie that you get. And we were texting back and forth.
I said, you might be right. I said that that
might be what the US Open is. The US Open
might just be the most ridiculously difficult set up golf

(11:37):
course every year that anyone's going to play. And I
don't necessarily know that it's fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Let's just think about this for a second.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Oakmont has one tree, one that they left. It has
no water, It has a total elevation change of seventy
feet on the whole course, so it's relatively flat. You've
been buying a bunch. I've been buying a bunch. You
drive right by it on seventy six on the Turnpike
when you're heading when you're heading.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
East, but.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I did.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
I was riveted by it because from the standpoint of
maybe I had no choice on Saturday because it was
garbage weather, but even yesterday and the rain delay worked
out to where the boys and I went out and played,
and then we were able to watch like the last
five or six holes as we were having dinner, and.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's it's funny.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
I found myself like rooting for the course in an
odd way, just the positions they were in.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
It's crazy to me.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
And I know if Z were here, he would be
able to explain it, and maybe you have a better
handle on it too, But it's crazy to me that
somebody in those final couple pairings just didn't hit something
they could hit straight off the tee and just stay
and play, Like couldn't you just play for par on
those things and however far they hit an iron or
a three wood or whatever, just something that they can control,

(12:53):
because they kept hitting driver and it just kept going
left and right and all over the map.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
About just a wood and going two hundred three.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Yeah, don't bomb it. Just put something out there two
fifty and do it again. But obviously there's a reason
that they don't, So, I mean, I asked that question.
But the answer they already have the answer for it
that the risk reward is it must be worth it.
So I found a little self rooting for it. And
then I thought to myself, well, what is a sports
equivalent that you would watch that in terms of how

(13:22):
the sport is traditionally played, this is drudgery. This is
not a fun watch that you got a great I mean,
spawn hit a sixty seven foot to ice it, and
that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
He was gonna win anyway. He was gonna always two
put from there.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
So there's that, and there's a couple, but for the
most part, it was just kind of like surviving it.
The best I could come up with in sports is
the Army Navy Game. I love the Army Navy Game.
It's not I watch it every year. I'm locked in
the whole time. It's not particularly aesthetically pleasing football. It's

(13:59):
kind of let's just run the same play variations of
it over and over again, both sides two and a
half yards and a cloud of dust. Punt field position,
don't really throw the ball much. It's not not really
fun football to watch, but there is there is something
an appreciation I have for the fact that they executed
at that level, and that's probably the best I could do.
I was trying to think from an NFL perspective, it's

(14:22):
I don't even know if it's possible anymore. It'd probably
like those early two thousands Baltimore Ravens with Dilfer, where
they were gonna beat you one way, just physically. It
wasn't gonna be fun to watch. They're gonna beat you
physically with defense. That's kind of what the US Open
has become for me. It's kind of become just it's drudgery.
It's not there's not that many great shots anymore. It's

(14:43):
just kind of survive in advance, especially at Oakmont. I mean,
they just they can't score there. They can't, and it's
like the one place on the planet they can't.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
I get thoroughly entertained when golfers get angry and do
things mean a lot of that almost throwing a club
someone Rory Rory did throw a club, Rory smashed a
box marker, a T box marker, one of Oakemond's.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
He smashed one of those. Then he threw his driver.
It bounced off his bag and then he caught it.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Yeah, he came right back to him. And then someone
destroyed something in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
That was Wyndham Clark destroyed the locker.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
I'm not sure he's going to be allowed back.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
No, that's outrageous behavior. Like, get a hold of yourself.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, everyone's playing in the same condition as you are. Correct, like,
this isn't No, you're not special.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Handle it, by the way. At no point this weekend
did I even hear his name until it was oh
with Wyndham b Yeah, until it was brought up that
he destroyed the locker room, and I'm like, well, what
the hell are you doing? Yeah, I would say army,
I mean Army Navy's the pageantry. And then from there
sometimes it's like you said it's fairly ugly, yeah, or

(15:55):
you you brought it up last week. It's playing in
an insanely cold weather game or horrible weather where you
can't move the ball. I remember, I remember growing up
there were a couple there was a Bears playoff game
in the fog against Philly and you literally couldn't see
from me to you, right, and you're like, Okay, well
we moved the ball eight yards, let's punt it and

(16:17):
try to pin them back and hopefully they'll make a
mistake and we'll capitalize. And you're just like, how about
we play this another day?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Yeah, just or wait this out.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
The other thing I do enjoy is the golfers. I mean,
there was a lot of swearing that did not get
edited out, no, that did not make the cut, and
just watching these guys like they're like I had it
going this way, Like those guys are the best in
the world at reading a green. Yeah, so when it

(16:49):
doesn't go that way, watching that reaction to me is priceless.
I love that. That being said, like, I'm also I
like the names on the in the major weekends. I
want the names and I didn't have the names.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
No.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
I think that's a I think that speaks to a
little bit of what the US Open has become though,
because like so he was JJ spond was one hundred
and fifty to.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
One, yeah to win.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
Wyndham Clark won a couple of years ago, relative kind
of out of the blue guy. There was another one
I'm blanking on it from like nine that was one
hundred and fifty to one. Lucas Glover wanted one hundred
and fifty to one. So there's been some of these
like kind of just you don't want to say lucky,
but kind of like one in a million shots that

(17:42):
win the US Open. It doesn't feel like we see
as many of those on those other courses. Certainly at
the Masters you don't see that very often. You w
at the British you do a little bit. There's some
randomness that happened sometimes with the British Open, where they
get that too, But the British is a lot like
maybe the US at the standpoint if you don't know
what's going to happen weatherwise. At the British, like sometimes
the weather can be crazy and it's just a matter

(18:03):
of when can you get out and play and then
can you have some success. But I think that's kind
of the thing with the US Open, like there's some
randomness to it. What was interesting was is they had
the rain out or they had the rain to lay,
and then they went to Tiger in nine they had
they showed his nine and you're amazing. Well then you go, well, god,
look how great was that? Just and now I gotta
go back completely loaded him hitting putt after putt from forever,

(18:29):
banging him in from Tory that that day, which we
all remember watching, and you just think, you're just lucky
that you were able to witness Tiger because you're never
going to see anything like that again. Where you have
all of the things that that kind of led to
that you mentioned Rory.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I think what you did?

Speaker 5 (18:45):
You hear his meltdown his press conference, like not meltdown,
but he gave like a two minute I'm past the
point of caring about any of this.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Did you really hear this?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
It's good.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
It's about two minutes long and it's a Q and A.
So he hasn't talked to the media and stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Little talk after the PGA champ.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah, here's what people don't realize. None of those guys
are None of those guys.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Have to talk. None of them.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
He talks and has four years at everything. So the
way that it works, I'm sure this way at Firestone
when they had the event. The Marquee players typically hold
one press conference in advance of the tournament.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
So Rory Tiger.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
In the old days for a while, Speeth, Dustin Johnson, Koepka,
like those, Deshambo would be one of those guys. When
those guys are all on the PGA Tour, they would
have a press conference like on Tuesday or Wednesday that
everybody could go to, and then most of those guys
talked after every round like that was just kind of understood,
like you're one of the you're one of the bell
cows of the PGA.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead and talk.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
They do.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
They're not required to, so they're just doing it because
it's the right thing to do. Well, when Live happened
and Kopka, Deshambo, Rom, all of these guys went Mickelson
for that matter, all of these guys went live. Then
all of a sudden the PGA Tour, it was Rory
and it was Scotty, and it was supposed to be

(20:06):
Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth. But those guys haven't been
consistently good, and so they're not You don't need to
talk to them all the time, So who are you
going to talk to Scotty and Rory When it came time.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
To live versus PGA.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Who are you going to talk to Rory? Because Tiger
was hurt, so there wasn't anybody else to help him
carry the water for the PGA Tour because, by the way,
that's where the majority of the press is still on
the PGA Tour, the golf press, it's not covering live.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
No one's covering live. Hell, half of the events.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Are overseas, so nobody sees it, so there's no traditional
media covering it. So that same traditional media that used
to be spread out between Rory and Kopka and Rom
and De'shambo and Scheffler and Tiger and Phil and all
of it, it's now all Rory Scotty kind.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Of all of it.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
It's them, And I think the fatigue of that has
gotten to him. And I think the other thing that
I don't think anybody saw coming is when he won
the Masters. My working theory is he did not need
people at that point. He did not need people to
go to bat for his legacy or his game or anything.

(21:14):
The legacy has cemented. You've won the Grand Slam of Golf.
There's six guys who have done it. You're one of them.
You're good, You're a first ballot Hall of Famer At
this point, I don't need people to prop me up anymore.
My game, my accomplishment stands for its own. And I
think that coupled with he's clearly someone who reads everything
that's written about him. I'm not talking about it in

(21:35):
the press, I'm talking about social media. Clearly reads all
of that, and he's just gotten to this point where
he's that it all just kind of has unraveled.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Now.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
He shot sixty seven in the final round, but at
one point they said, well, what do you want on Sunday?
He goes a four and a half hour round and
to get out of here. That's not him, No, that's
not who he's been his whole career. But I just
think he's I think he's just spent. He's just done.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
So that was That's a little bit of a background
into what happened on over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
I think that's interesting. I just I was making notes
as I was watching everything, like at one point, Spawn,
who wins the tournament, bogie five of the first six holes. Yeah,
and no one could putt, no one. I mean it
looked like you were rushing putts. Yeah, it was. You

(22:21):
mentioned the opportunities. Hey, Victor Hovelin, drive for show, putt
for dough buddy, how about a putter you were I
think he was ranked fifty first in putting this weekend. Yeah,
that's on you. Like you, you probably win the Major
if you can putt, because he I mean, he had

(22:41):
some of the best striking of the weekend.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
This is my this is what I think happened to him,
and I think it I mean, it happened to all
of them, but they they basically put it on three
different courses. Sure, and in the final round, you put
it on two courses, two different courses in the same day.
It was starting, it was drying out, they were running
a million miles an hour. Then all of a sudden
it poured, Like yeah, it was ponding. It's all of

(23:07):
a sudden. Now you're like skiffing it through water. It's
like a totally different sport and you're going to learn it.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
On the fly.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
So yeah, I mean, you the the guys in the
final pairing shot seventy nine to seventy eight.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:20):
I just the spawn story is fantastic. I remember him
at the par three competition at the Masters. Uh, he
played really well there and I mean the story of
him at three am having to run to CBS, right, yeah,
I did. Like this is his youngest daughter was throwing
up and he needed meds. Hey, can someone go get

(23:44):
the kids some medicine? Yeah, that's not the guys playing
for Yeah, yeah, playing in the final round of the
Master or the US Open. I just uh Hatton and
his just improbable collect like spawn got hot at the
right time and Hatton literally went the opposite direction on
seventeen and eighteen, just imploding.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, and it was. It was interesting.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
He was at the I'm sure he saw the clip
of him doing his post round chat and like he
was despondent and then all of a sudden he sees
the putt roll in and you can't help but be like,
oh man, good for him.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Robert McIntyre in at plus one for a while I
thought that might win.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I think he thought that too. He was.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
He was right there, reckless, abandoned, he was. He was
feeling it, but like he's Irish, am I correct on that,
I think Irish.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
I remember we had him in our because we do
the British Open thing that we do the Pool, and
I remember one of us I think I had him
as like a rookie or something like that, or maybe
that was the Masters. I remember Robert McIntyre remember having
on one of our things that we did.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
As the weather got worse. Yeah, he got better.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
He did.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
He was He's like, oh, this is like a normal
Tuesday at home. Yeah, no big deal, he was. I mean,
he played really well. It was retaining, but like, I'm going,
where are the guys that I know? Well, it wasn't.
I don't think it was a great weekend for the PGA,

(25:12):
to be honest.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
For professional golf. Noeah, No, it wasn't. It wasn't particularly
a good weekend for professional golf. It was my hunches
unless you were, like, you know, unless you're either a
die hard golfer or somebody who I mean or the
weather got you, or just someone who watches the majors,
which is primarily what I am. I mostly just watched
the majors and the tournaments that are either near or

(25:33):
dear to my heart or that I know about. I
don't watch every week. Unless you're that you probably there
wasn't anything to get you to tune in. No, I'll
give this to the U. I do think that the
US Open, though it very much has an identity. It's brutal,
it's going to be the hardest thing they play every
year and you just sign up for it. The other

(25:53):
thing is pretty crazy, is there's only two years I
want to say twenty. I think it's like twenty forty eight.
There's is it twenty thirty eight? It's no twenty thirty eight,
they're locked in. It's twenty forty three and twenty forty
eight are the only US Open sites until twenty fifty
one that aren't sown up.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Is it the same five golf courses?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean you're gonna see Oakmont all the time.
I mean, it's it's it seems like Oakmont, Pebble, and
Pinehurst are in the rotation like every time it comes around,
and then they're rotating the other one. So it's obviously
we just played Oakmont. Next year, Shinnecock, then Pebble Beach,
then Wingfoot, then Pinehurst, Marion, Riviera, Pebble, Oakmont, Oakland Hills, Pinehurst, Shinnecock,

(26:44):
Pebble Country Club, LACC, Marion, Pinehurst, Oakmont, Pebble, Pinehurst, there's
Pinehurst has it in forty one.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
It's got it.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Twice in a six year period. Pinehurst has it, no
oakwand again Marion and Oakland Hills. So they are not
There's only two US Opens through twenty fifty one that
aren't decided. The restroom are all locked in.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Why why would you do that if you're the PGA,
Well it's the USGA, Okay, why are they doing that?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I don't know. My guess is they're following the.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
British Open, where it's kind of the same sites all
the time, but obviously over there there's so many fewer
sites to choose from. Let's see what we've got it. Yeah,
it's kind of the same. It's Baltus were all Congressional
Olympic Ocean. This is PGA and PGA Frisco. They've got
a handful of them already kind of locked in, not

(27:38):
as many as the US Open, but they got a
handful of them locked in on the PGA as well,
And so we're not going to get that new course.
The idea that like this is I guess the thing
the difference between the Open Championship and the US Open
is there are kind of a finite amount of golf.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Courses over there.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Over there, Yeah, where we have it feels like infinite
that you could play. Yet there's a bunch of brand
new courses that have opened. Maybe they just can't house
the people. I don't know, but yeah, it's an interesting
one where you root for the course, which is.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
A rare thing.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
What going back to your little golf match yesterday, were
you and Bootsy winners?

Speaker 5 (28:15):
They got us in hoops? They beat us in hoops
three games to one. The summer series sits at Bootsy
and I think twelve to nine. Still have a slight
series lead on him three to one Sunday wasn't good?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Were they hitting from the outside is no.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Our operation has to be I have to hit half
the threes I take, and Boots, he's got to make
all his layups. That's our only way we can win
because otherwise it's tough. Just how big they've gotten. So
we lost three in one there. We took care of
him on the golf course.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Boots.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
He had a big moment on seven seven where he
I pulled it out of play and I'm like, dude,
normally I have him hit first, but I just went
up there and hit it and I just pulled it
out of play and I wasn't gonna go look for it,
and I said, buddy, I need you, and he piped
a little screaming eagle right down about one hundred and
twenty five yards right down the middle.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Can make do with the rest.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
You can work with this, buddy. So yeah, we had
a We had a nice victory there on the on
the green. So it was good. It's a very nice
Father's day.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Father's Day, yeah, other than you're entertaining well.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
And that's my My youngest eighty was asking me last night.
She goes, do you have a good day? I go
it was a day, yeah, and she goes, well, that
doesn't sound like great. I said, today's not really about me,
and she goes, yeah, it is. You're our father, right,
And I said, yeah, but it's about it's about Grandpa,

(29:41):
it's about my father in law, and like, you know,
a couple of my brother in law. I'm like, it's
for everybody else to come over and have a good time.
And everybody got together and there were playing cornhole, and
I've got the can jam out and I've got the
bachi set up.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody's.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Just having a good time, whether it's just visiting or
playing out in the backyard or whatever the case. I'm like,
I'll have my fun later. Yeah, Like Father's Day is
not it's a lot of work. It's our annual thing.
Like I do an Italian sausage fry, right right, we
got the peppers and you know, you got to clean

(30:17):
the inside and the outside cause people want to come
inside to watch the US open, sure, even though I
want everything outside.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Yeah, It's like at like nine fifteen, everybody left last
night and I was like, oh.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's a full day.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, I was a sleeper all right. Now I got
to clean up. So yeah, I think I was. I
was lights out by ten. I was exhausted.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
I am playing a ton of golf this coming weekend
for you, and we'll go from there.

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Speaker 2 (31:44):
For Jodor rest Or, which is the sort of part
of the plan within. Yeah, all part of plan.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
You got reps today in a couple drills, but every day,
like I've told you, we're going to.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Be real intentional on how we divvy them up. Kevin, here,
this question is ponderful.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Pro Now thos in with tas. Why hasn't you your
faced a number one defense edition.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (32:05):
Again, like I've told you, guys, let's not look too
much into who's out there when we're in installation phase.
We're in teaching phase, so not much to look into it.

Speaker 9 (32:15):
But if you ay quick follow up on that, you know,
as we do progress into training GAMP and you're close
to the preseason games and just close to the season,
is it reasonable to expect that someone who is practicing
with the first team there's under a serious consideration to
be started arter day.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
Yeah, we're so far away from that type of thought
process Daniels. Honestly, it's a we're in our installation phase.
It's it's the off season. It's ota, so we're gonna
keep the focus there. Once you get into training camp,
of course you're getting ready to play games and ultimately
get ready for playing the season, but right now that's
not our focus.

Speaker 10 (32:44):
So do you think that changes Like day one a
training camp, Kevin, if you get back into rotation means
more you have a depth chart in your.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, I think we're using this off season.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
I think this is the we got one more practice
to go, so we'll use all these practices like we
have forever position to learn about our players and learn
what guys do best and those type of things. I mean, obviously,
like for a wide receiver want to find out what
routes he's comfortable with. For the quarterbacks, find out what
concepts they're comfortable with. So that's really what this off
season has been about. Of course, your mentality changes a

(33:16):
little bit as you get into training camp, but that's
really not our focus right now.

Speaker 7 (33:20):
Kevin Dylan was talking initially about trying to fight the
Amazon lifestyle or the Amazon lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think he said, where we all just expect everything
to happen in the n B.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Would you have fed our given the way like coverage
has changed with the league pause event, like, how how
can you empathize with these guys who are trying to
They just have more to battle on that front as
they go through a composition than maybe.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Guys used to do.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
Yeah, I think probably the biggest difference nowadays is social media.
I would expect to listen. The news cycle is three
and sixty five days a year, and there's a lot
of content and there's a lot of hours to fill,
as you guys all well know. So we and also
we understand how popular our sport is, how interested are
fans are in our sports, So we embrace that.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
We like that part.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Having said that once we get inside the building, we
really do focus on where our feet are. We focus
that we're here, We focus on what we have in
front of us. And I think all of our players
have done a great job of understanding that.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
How do you how do you.

Speaker 7 (34:13):
Try it personally to try to block that stuff?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Allen, what you're what you're keep myself.

Speaker 8 (34:18):
Centered kind of I'm not on social media probably number one.
But listen, I've been doing I've been in this sport
long enough, the NFL. When we know how popular this is,
how how much interest level there is, it's it's why
our sport is so healthy, and we we understand the
important role our fans play in our sport. You know,
this is when we get to training camp, we'll get

(34:39):
our fans out here to be a part of this
with us, which we're excited about. I'm excited to be
in front of our fields at Huntington Banks Stadium and
and that'll be uh, you know that that's the fun
part of this business for us, is the competitive spirit
with a fan base behind you. For right now though,
this is OTAs and and this is the focus really
is on the work and we're not gonna let much

(35:01):
else get the way.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
You very much.

Speaker 11 (35:02):
Way you take into account the opinions and the feedback
of veterans, untime veterans like.

Speaker 12 (35:07):
Jewel and Files and many Jerry.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
And David and those guys.

Speaker 11 (35:11):
When you are making your quarterback decisions.

Speaker 8 (35:14):
Yeah, I'm not there Mary Kay yet in terms of
talking to other players about those type of decisions. I've
leaned on players before for a variety of different things,
but I'm not really there yet, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I know, I know why he's kicking. Is that unusual?

Speaker 12 (35:28):
For your good account?

Speaker 8 (35:29):
They have been kicking, just not necessarily out here, Tony.
It's just part of their the routine of when Dustin's
getting ready to kick.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
He doesn't kick every.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Day, Kevin.

Speaker 13 (35:38):
They has any of these undrafted guys jumped on it.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
You know, you've got some OTAs.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
And they have.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
You know, I don't want to single any guys out,
but I've been very impressed. I've been impressed with this
rookie class in total. The guys are outstanding workers. They're
they're like I've said, you guys are we have no issues.
Guys are in early, they're working hard. But I include
the drafted and undrafted guys when I say that it's
a really impressive class.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Kevin, I know what, mind there's much into this.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
But you have Johns a tempt in minds maybe spour
Is that just natural evolution? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
I mean he's just again getting up to speed on
some of the terminology and that type of thing.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
So yes, definitely don't read it.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
You feel in need to have a conversation with what
happened last year or is it just Andrew.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Who did that?

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I've talked to Deontay when we signed him. I
had a good talk with'ant.

Speaker 11 (36:31):
You're okay, You're okay, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Kevin, I know it's hard at this point.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Of your truly blocking out there, but just what are
your early impressions and the cutting ability of Quinn Sean.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, it's it's it's hard.

Speaker 8 (36:48):
Like you mentioned, Darryl, it's hard to evaluate without pads
on running back is a hard position to evaluate in
these settings. I will tell you with Quinn, Shawn, with Dylan,
the young guys, and I'm you know, I could talk
about the room in general, but speaking about those two
young guys that they've done a great job of learning
the system, understanding their roles and what we're asking them
to do.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
We're put a lot on their plates.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
Uh so, yeah, of course, q you see in college tape,
you see his cutting ability at that size is rare,
harder to see out here, although it doesn't happen at times,
but it's different when the defense isn't bringing you to
the ground.

Speaker 10 (37:22):
What do you hopeing Deante can add given the success.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
That he's had in this league.

Speaker 8 (37:26):
Yeah, another veteran player that has had success in this league.
We've gone against him, so I know what type of
player is having been in the division with him.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
So no his skill set, but another veteran player.

Speaker 8 (37:37):
Kevin yesterday, it'll be normal, a little bit shorter, a
little bit earlier, but normal.

Speaker 14 (37:43):
Kevin yesterday, you were talking about the discussions in the
QB room to Joe and the younger guys and Kenny two.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
How have those types of conversations in.

Speaker 14 (37:50):
Like camaraderie and the QB room change over the years.
You've been the kind of felt when you have an
older guy and then so some younger guys that just
just depend on the personality.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
Yeah, I think it's so dependent on the personalities. I
think back to Brett Favre and Tavaris Jackson Sage Rosenfel's
Joe Webb.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
That was a fun room. It's just so depending on
who the guys are.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
And I've been very very lucky, very very fortunate to
be in some great rooms with professionals, guys that work
hard at their craft. But also we try to have
fun while we're there while we're in there as well.

Speaker 14 (38:20):
So hurry up period?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Was that the first Miami? Did you do that? For
OTAs we are started?

Speaker 8 (38:27):
We started to introduce some two minutes into the into
the offense and defense last week and then started to
work a little bit today.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
What do you what do you look for in the
quarterbacks on differently to make it a high rate? You like,
you know, keeping the red zone because you did a
lot of that today.

Speaker 8 (38:42):
Yeah, we've done a lot of red zone period for
a bunch of different reasons. Number one, it's so important.
Obviously it's a scoring portion of our field. But number two,
it's a nice way to take care of legs. So
if you do a tight a red zone drill or
you're not running fifty yards if you will, so you
try to incorporate some red zone into what we do.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
But the game does change down there.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
The field becomes wider than it is long a lot
of those windows become extremely tight. Obviously we're not working
the run game right now, but in the run game,
those running backs have to sometimes bring their own blocker.
There's not that we're going to have a safety that
we can't block. So the game really does change down there, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
In terms of installs, how many installs the offense? Do
you think that you've gotten the room so far?

Speaker 8 (39:23):
We've gotten through the whole system, which for us essentially
amounts to about seven installs, So that's normal.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's about normal.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
Yeah, all Jamaris two games, you know, had a couple
of gross.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
Day or yesterday to day.

Speaker 8 (39:41):
He's had a sorry, he's had a really strong spring,
is here all the time working on his body. Very
intelligent player can line up in multiple positions, which I
think is valuable.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
And then he showed up.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
He's caught the ball well and the you know the
quarterbacks like how he gets open.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
He finds a way to get open versus his own
versus man, Kevin, is mike call of David Bell that
I haven't practiced on. Do you expect him to be.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
Ready to go when we get the training cap I'll
have a better update as we get closer to training him.

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Speaker 6 (41:02):
I've got a I just saw this and I'm like,
now's as good a time as ever in the offseason
to bring this up. Go Rookie qbs in NFL history,
in their rookie seasons that have thrown the ball five
hundred plus times and run for four hundred plus yards.
There are four of them.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Can you name them? Thrown it five hundred and ran
for four hundred.

Speaker 6 (41:27):
Yep, it's all real. Yeah, it's okay, pretty recent yep.
In the last years, twenty years. Jan Daniels not on that.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
He didn't throw was it? I mean he ran for
a four hundred? He must have had five hundred a
tempts last year. I would say, see if.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
This is wrong. Already he did not throw five hundred passes,
so he threw four hundred eight? Okay?

Speaker 15 (42:03):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Cam Newton, Cam Newton is one of the four. Cam Newton,
what about three? Robert Griffin third?

Speaker 6 (42:13):
No, okay, three of the four are NFC quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
M four hundred yards receiving, rushing and five hundred attempts.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Here's how this is.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
I'm gonna have to cheat a little bit, and then
I'm you're I'm not gonna cheat on I'm not gonna
cheat on the on the stats. I won't pull up
the stats. I just sometimes I have to visualize teams,
all right? Um, Jalen Hurts, Uh no, he get there.
No Dak Prescott mm hmmm, really.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Interesting. Kyler Kyler is one of them. Kyler is number
two on that list. Tyler Newton was one. MURRAYUS two.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Russ Wilson as a rookie in Seattle. No, he didn't
get there. I don't think Mahomes ran for well. No,
he wasn't a rookie anyway when he played there. Did
fields get there? No, that's what I thought too. He
didn't even throw five hundred times yep. Josh Allen, Uh huh.

(43:30):
You have one NFC and one AFC left, and there
are they both active? Yes, Danny Dimes, No, No.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
I would tell you in the last Uh, I would
tell you that's going to give it away. One's in
the NFC North and one's in the a f C West.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Shortan Love didn't play as a rookie. J J. McCarthy
didn't play at all. Golf didn't run for four hundred
yard ards?

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Did he?

Speaker 13 (44:00):
He did not.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
No, Caleb Williams did.

Speaker 6 (44:03):
Caleb Williams on that list.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Caleb Williams ran for four hundred yards Huh wow. No,
I obviously did not have that. And in the AFC,
Caleb Williams.

Speaker 6 (44:22):
Had a passer rating of eighty seven point eight had
five hundred and sixty two pass attempts. He also rushed
for four hundred and eighty one yards.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Oh, just got it. Yeah, boy, I don't know because
I don't think Lamar played enough.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
AFC West I already said, well.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Was it Nicks? Nicks ran for four hundred yards? Wow?
I would not have had that.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
I would not have had him rushing for four hundred yards.
And I guess it's the other thing is you're talking
about seventeen games, so it's probably makes some sense that
it's two of those guys.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
As we're sevent Nick's had four hundred and thirty yards.
Rest barely got out there. Oh that's interesting, Yeah, very interesting.
So Kyler, Caleb cam and bo Nix. There you go,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
Uh this little higher lowert. I found this guy online,
all right. He has lists and we like lists.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, let's list it up.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Although I can't see rock, can you send me the
link for the actual running back ones?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I know?

Speaker 6 (45:31):
So this guy puts it all in his Twitter thread.
Oh okay, So it's mildly annoying.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
So you can't like just pull it up. You can't
pull up like an article.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
No.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
So this guy is all over the map and he's
got a number of other positions. We can have some
fun with.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
He's the senior media manager at Player Profiler and Fantasy
Draft Fantasy. I see this fast Draft Fantasy. He ranked
the thirty two running back rooms in the NFL. His
number one was the Lions with Jamier Gibbs, David Montgomery,
Craig Reynolds, and some other guy.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
The Eagles were at number two was Saquon will Shipley
and AJ Dillon.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Okay, that seems fair.

Speaker 6 (46:17):
The forty nine ers were three.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
I how you can do that with McCaffrey. I mean
he's missed two full seasons in the last four or five.
That's what I'm saying. Entirely healthy. Sure, yeah, just not
healthy very much.

Speaker 6 (46:32):
Oh, here we go. Perfect, Thank you, Brock. It's one
of those that's super strange, but I wanted to get
your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And we don't have to go higher. Yea, yeah, and
all that ahead.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
So those are the top four. Do you know one
that's missing? Did you see one that's missing in there
that's clearly obvious?

Speaker 5 (46:54):
Well, I guess depending on how you define clearly obvious.
So I'm trying to I see one, two, and four
on this list that I have. Number five is Seattle
Who's three. Number three is the Atlanta Falcons b Jean Robinson, Yeah,
and Tyler Algier.

Speaker 16 (47:17):
So.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Number four is the forty nine Ers.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
Number five the Seattle with Dope Walker winner kW three Okay,
I don't know. The Rams are number six with Kyron
Williams being their feature. Number seven the Chargers with Amarion
Hampton and Najie Harris.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Okay. Eight is Carolina.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Eight is Carolina Chubb A Hubbard. Number nine the Ravens
Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (47:47):
I feel like I would put the Ravens or should
put the right too.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Someone explained to me why they're ninth. Yeah, it seems
a little low.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Yeah, I mean the idea you could just swap just
put San Francisco where Baltimore is.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, just swap them. Just put Baltimore at four and
put San Francisco at.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Nine, because you can't at this point, like you can't. McCaffrey,
how many has he missed? Two of the last four seasons?
I feel like, yes, I mean, or at least a
big part of how old is he now?

Speaker 6 (48:20):
He's Fantasy team.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
I know the two times I've drafted him number one overall,
both times he's lost most of the years to injury.
McCaffrey last year played just two games and then I'm sorry,
he played four games last year, and then he played
just six games in twenty twenty two, and he played
just three games in twenty twenty. So this is the
third time where he's played less than a third of

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the season.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
I mean that's yeah, and he plays, he's really good.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
It's great.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
He had another year when he played only played seven
games in Carolina. He played a two year stretch in
Carolina twenty twenty one, twenty and twenty one where he
played a total.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Of ten games.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Yeah, I don't what he plays when he plays. Yeah, yeah,
I like that Baltimore situation a lot. I think for us,
what are we twelve?

Speaker 6 (49:13):
So we come in at number twelve with Quinn, Shawn Judkins,
Dylan Sampson, Jerome Ford, and Pierre Strong.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
I think our room is.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
I think it's what you will see. What this is
the current trend right where you've got a veteran who
you've drafted in a mid round and Jerome Ford, who's there.
You drafted one high round rookie running back and then
another one in the late rounds. Pierre Strong's ave and
the idea is you have a committee of guys who
you can rely upon. And that's what's different from you know,

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like what Baltimore is doing with San Francisco had all
of their eggs in the McCaffrey basket. The Eagles have
all their eggs in the Saquon Barkley basket. And when
it works, it works brilliantly.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
Yeah, the Dolphins have eight Chan, but he's been hurt. Yeah,
he's number eleven. The Colts were number ten. If I'm
looking at the other AFC North teams, I think Pittsburgh's
better than twenty four. I think Jalen Warren's better than
Nase and.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
I won't have anything that's a big problem.

Speaker 5 (50:19):
And then and Caleb Johnson's really good, the kid at Iowa.
They drafted him. I think he'll be I think he's
very good for them. So they have them at twenty four,
and then Cincinnati at twenty six with Chase Brown and
samaj p Ryan. So I mean Cincinnati, this is something
that you'd have to think about from the Cincinnati perspective.

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If you were a Bengal fan and I told you
you're getting Dan Marino's career out of Joe Burrow, would
you take it? Yeah, okay, no super bowls? Played for
one in year two. Burrow played for one in year two.
Never really got close, but they won a lot like
they never won a super Bowl, but never even returned
to the super Bowl. But they were consistently in the mix.

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He's when he retired, led the NFL in every statistical
category that mattered from a passing standpoint, Like, do you
take that even if it means no super Bowl?

Speaker 6 (51:09):
It's a great question.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Yeah, it's a tough one because that's what they're gonna
have to win if you put it in those terms. Now,
he took them to a super Bowl, so clearly he's
got head and shoulders above the guy. I'm about to say,
But if you take away that super Bowl year, what's
the difference between Joe Burrow and Andy Dalton? Oh that's

(51:34):
I don't I can't go there, but I I he's
a much better quarterback than Dalton.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
In terms of correct but he still took He won,
they won games, they went to the playoffs. He didn't
win any playoff games.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Dalton is more I think Dalton is a little bit.
I think Burrow is more like I mean he's more
like Alan and Lamar and those type of guys when
he's healthy, like at.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
The higher end of it.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
But if you're a Bengal fan, Dalton is Dalton is
Dalton Baker a lot alike. Okay, in terms of what
you know, bakes better, bakes, best is better, ba bakes
more physically talented. But most people think there is a
really hard ceiling on Bake the way that there is
on Dalton. Burrow's ceiling is higher. He's so much more prolific.

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But in terms of what they've won, in terms of yeah,
I think it's I think all those guys, I think
Alan and Lamar Burrow because he's got to the Super
Bowls and have quite the same pressure. But they're all
chasing down fifteen in Kansas City. And that's the part
that's tricky is they're being judged against an all time
great and that Chiefs kind of juggernaut thing. But he's

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really the way that they're going about it, and so
on this or twenty sixth in the run game, and
they vary indifferent defensively, their plan is going to be
we're gonna outscore everybody thirty eight thirty one, and let's
see what happens.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
So but it's an interesting one because that's basically what
Marino did. It's basically Marino's career.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Yeah, duper and Clayton go long Yeah, yeah, that was it,
like the ball around absolutely yeah a the way it worked.

Speaker 6 (53:09):
So I don't know if i'd sign up for that.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
I think I would because you know why, you're not
entitled to super Bowls. And it would be fun to
every single year go into training camp and say we
got a shot, got a shot. Now it didn't Marino
never got to the mountaintop long time, didn't look like
Elwie was gonna get the mountaintop until they Gotterrell Davis.
Didn't know if they were going to get there, and
then they did. But every year you could go into

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a season say we got a shot. And that's I
think the fun of it is when you have one
of those guys. Plus you're gonna see a lot of
entertaining football, a lot of entertains, always entertaining, always. We'll
go around the sports world. Coming up next second hour
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Speaker 5 (53:59):
Right Second Hour on a edition of the program Time
to Go Around that Sports World. Uh, did you see
Miles throughout the first pitch he threw out the first.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Pitch to his dad? I did? I did down in Texas, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
throughout the first pitch to his dad.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Looks like there, it looks like I'm starting to get
this having this theory that it looks like people are
trying to bring back like the ultra baggy pant.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Are you seeing this? Young Brock? You seeing this out?

Speaker 5 (54:22):
And about Jordan's seeing it? Yeah, Jordan's far hipper than
you get him on the mike. Yeaht of the way,
Young Brock, Jordan, Doctor Jay, you're seeing this.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
I'm not making this up, am I You're not making
this up.

Speaker 17 (54:33):
I actually just recently said this about a month ago,
that people are bringing back like the super baggy close,
which is totally fine. I think is for certain people,
like especially if you have bigger traps, it's a better
look as opposed to the tight fitting closed. But I mean,
I've always been a fan of like baggy, You're close
because of where I'm from.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I don't I just don't know if it's gonna take off. No,
it may not. I'm trying.

Speaker 17 (54:55):
If anything, I think it's only gonna last for about
a year or two. But I saw it out of
a fashion world.

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Everything's I know it always everything, everything is old is
new again. I saw I saw Brad Pitt in a
like an ultra baggy outfit over the weekend, and he's
like sixty years old. Like, dude, come on, I saw,
how do you?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
How do you?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
I'm so certain I buy from the same like four
companies everything. If you look in my in my closet,
it's all the same stuff. That's I wear the same
stuff every.

Speaker 17 (55:26):
Day, saying I'm I'm also on the side of like
not wearing designer things, but wearing things that look or
like almost duplicates of it.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
It looks kind of the same, just ain't the same.
Just that feel, just that feel. Yeah, I saw, I
saw the extra bag out a mile So that was good.
Head though, all right.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
He had this to say about Michael Parsons singing a
contract assentsion with the Cowboys. Uh the I don't know
who Abby Jones is of dll S Dallas Sports. I
think he deserves whatever he's earned. Once I got the
chance to train with him, I've seen his work ethic.
I've seen how he attacks the weights, the running. He's
one hundred cent committed to his craft and getting better
every day. He has that little of dedication of the game.

(56:04):
He should get every penny he is owed. The one
thing that's so and this is where I think NFL players,
that's where I think this gets into trouble. And this
is the spot that Hendrickson's in down in Cincinnati is
the Cincinnati Bengals are willing to pay him what he's owed.
He wants to tear up what he's owned and make
more correct And that's where the disconnect comes with fans

(56:24):
because and I don't think a lot of fans realize this.
NFL contracts are not guaranteed, so there's a set The
way that this always works is it's the majority of
it's paid in bonus. If you're great, it's paid in bonus.
It's usually upfront or it's staggered. But once those guarantees
come off that contract, the player wants another contract to risk,
to justify the risk of going out there and playing. Sure,

(56:47):
all of this would be absolved if they were just
guaranteed contracts. NFL doesn't want that, clearly, very clearly, and
so they give him other things in lieu of it.
But you don't ever hear about this in the NBA
or Major League Baseball or even the NHL. Like you
don't hear about people saying I want to redo my contract.
You play until your contract's done or until you have

(57:09):
a year left on it, then they trade you for assets.
Like that's the way business is done. The NFL is
the only one where this is the case.

Speaker 6 (57:14):
Yeah, there has to be a happy medium for that.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 13 (57:22):
Like that.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
Okay, you don't want to guarantee the full contract, do
you have to guarantee half of it? Do you have
to guarantee?

Speaker 5 (57:30):
I know we're seeing more. I mean you're seeing more
of these, you're seeing draft picks signing. Now you know,
guaranteed contracts. I think that's but I think that's when
the fans lose. That's where you lose the fans because
their view of it is like wait a second, Like
you're signed a contract, go work for that. The player
is saying, yeah, but my next year isn't guaranteed. This
is the end of my guarantees. I can't risk my

(57:52):
body on this sport unless I'm guaranteed. And it just
feels like we just chase our tail on this thing.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
So I mean, especially if you draft a quarterback in
the first round, now like, okay, you're going to get
them for five years, and it used to be hey,
we got them for five years, four years and an
option for fifth. Okay, so it's probably gonna be five years. Great. Well,
now by the end of year three, you better be
working on the extension. Have an extension. You really signed

(58:18):
them for a three year rookie deal. Yeah, yeah, no,
that's that's what that's what it's become. Or if you're
a player of consequence, by the end of year three,
you better have a new deal in place because by
year at the end of year four, okay, you might
be coming back. Fully, I think I fully guarantees that
fifth year when you pick up that option, but the

(58:42):
players not signing for that, the players at that point's
going I'm ready for my contract extension, it's time no.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
And the other you know, the other thing is is
like the smarter organizations get ahead of that stuff. We
typically get ahead of that stuff. The Eagles are the
best at it. I mean they draft people are talented,
then they get extensions. They jumped the table on Jalen
Hurts his extension. Now it looks like a bargain. Sure,
that's that's the way that they operate. They give you
the money right away. That way you have problems down
the road, So that that would seem to be the

(59:11):
way to do it. Not only do you have the
Parsons DA out there, you have T. J. Watts deal
out there too, as they're both looking to get extensions
at some point this summer. Speaking of defensive ends wanting extensions,
Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals have resumed communication. According to
ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, Henderson missed the team's mandatory mini camp
sub jected about one hundred and five thousand in fines.
You know, the Cincinni Bengals do not have joint practices

(59:35):
this year.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
They're not doing it.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Really, Yeah, what's there?

Speaker 3 (59:42):
You know what I thought, Mike don't want to pay
for hotels he doesn't want to pay for Yes, now,
why we're fine, that's what. We got a whole team here.
Why don't you got to bring more tea they want
to come here. Yeah, right, we'll do well.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
As long as I have to pay for lunches, we'll
do that. To get that sorted out of the point.
That's what I thought about it. I have not ever
thought that Trey Hendrickson not being there was a thing.
I've always thought.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
He'll be there the first day of training, he'll be
there when it matters, or he'll be there for the
first game.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
Like I remember Hoff saying when he was at the
peak of his playing, like, how many days did you
need to get into shit get ready to really?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Said three?

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Trey Henderson, he's not the Hoff, but maybe it takes seven.
Like he doesn't need sure a month and a half
to get ready to go on that side of things.
So some news down there on that the only there
are two teams going this week. The Ravens have their
mini camp this week, and there's one other team in
the NFL that's got mini camp this week.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Everybody else is all done with mini camp.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
NBA Finals resumed tonight, Game five in Oklahoma City. That
series is tied two to two. I don't know why
they didn't play last night on a Sunday night. I
don't know why you wouldn't play on a set on
a Father's Day Sunday night, but they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
So they played, dragged this out as long as we can.

Speaker 5 (01:01:00):
They played Friday, then they were off all weekend, and
then they play tonight. The NHL played Thursday in Miami,
Saturday in Edmonton, and then they'll play back in Miami
on Tuesday in Game five or Game six rather of
that series.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
To me, it felt like on the NBA side of things,
it felt like Indiana blew it in the last one.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
And you felt like if they didn't win that one, yeah,
then maybe there's a chance this completely shifts Oklahoma City's
way and then you're in trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
It's a massive one tonight, absolutely massive game. Game five
winners in a two two series are decidedly advantageous position
going forward, So that one is tonight. I mentioned tomorrow
night Florida and Edmonton. For the Stanley series, it has
been Florida leads that series three games to two. It's
been a spectacular series and it was one of those

(01:01:53):
ones where if Edmonton, Whoever's going to score first on
Saturday or was that Saturday night, Yeah, where it was
then score first on Saturday, it was gonna win. It
was Florida and they put it on Florida's just they're incredible,
really deep.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Good to go.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
H Also this in the sports world, Joey Chessnunt announced
he's making his return the twenty twenty five Nathan's Hot
Dog Eating Contest sixteen time champ. He was banned to
competing for a partnership with a plant based meat brand,
so he did his own thing with Netflix last year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
It was funny, like the thing. The first person that
put this, this Nathan's thing on the map for me
was Kobayashi. Yeah, not Chestnut.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
It was Kobayashi who did it, and then Chessnut came
along and just lapped the field. I can't stand this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Really, I hate it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:34):
It's on a bucket list. I want to go see
you want to go. I actually had some of my
buddies that went.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
They went, they go to Coney Island and they did it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:41):
Yeah, said it was amazing the people watching seven to none. Yeah,
I bet that part is Yeah, I bet they're like
the hot dog stuff whatever your cocktail bub It's fourth
of July.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
How many do you think you could? You could choke
down before you got sick. The way they do it
with the water, I don't know. They dip them and
all that. You gotta dip them to make the bun
go down.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
Yeah, nope, I enjoy a hot dog.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I don't need to. I like a dog too. Where
do you go? What's your go to? What do you
put on it?

Speaker 17 (01:03:15):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
I like a little relish?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Yeah, and I am a ketchup guy.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
So why is that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Why is that some sort of a big I don't know.
I was waiting on backlash. No I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
No, I'm in an ideal world. Like if I was
to make the dream hot dog, I almost never have one.
You can almost never get this. You give me the dog,
you're gonna go one row of mustard on one side,
one row of ketchup on the other, and then before
I put the relish down. If they have like the
those American cheese, like the cheese from that that melts

(01:03:50):
the fake cheese like the stuff, that's all that's what
I want. You give me one of those guys on
the dog and then the relish on top boom.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
I like, I'll do a ketchup, I'll do a mustard,
and then I'll turn the hot talk so you get.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Yeah, there you go, and then you go relish that similar.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
Yeah, it's mustard's hit or miss for me, just depends
what kind of mustard it is. Like, I'm I'm not
steadium mustard.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Guy, I'm not either. I don't like that the brown mustard.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
Yeah, I like the yellow. I had a nice uh
yellow jalapeno one yesterday. No, you're talking from Cleveland Mustard Company,
I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Yeah, they do a good job. Yeah, they do a
very good job. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, the brown not
really not really? My thing? Is that a New York
Chicago thing? Like you can't put ketchup on a hot talk?
I think so.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
My one buddy, I'm waiting for a text from him
because he'll be like, you're dead to me? Why, because like,
you should ketchup shouldn't be put on anything other than fries.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Maybe my pit Heinz company or what. What's the problem.
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
I don't know what his problem is. I'm a I'm
a purest me too. I like a hot talk. Yeah,
it was a hot dogs and Italian sausages last night.
Now I wouldn't put it on an Italian sausage, but
I would.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
I would I do italianage or Brons.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
Italian sausage.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
So you go to and then you with the peppers. Yeah,
in that way. I had a little uh on that
or what there was Marinara on the side if people
wanted that last night, so that or like the Brot
with the mustard and the crowd.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
So it's funny. We had beers and brats at the
German Club Friday. Of course she knocked out a full weekend.
You did, and then went downstairs today for lunch and
it was like Brots sausages and I'm like, I'm out,
I've got I had a lot going on there. How
about how about a turkey burger?

Speaker 16 (01:05:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
I think I still go the Italian sausage route with
the peppers and onions. But I do like a good
brata or a worst.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, with with the crowd. With the crowd, that's tough.
You can't go wrong with that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Yeah, that's one that grew on me. I did not
like it at all as a kid. No, and with
the German heritage. I was constantly being fed it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, two years, every every year, and
my dad's moms, here's a giant batch of krout.

Speaker 5 (01:06:15):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Where's the bread and the
peanut butter? Yeah, I'm good, I'm not going in there.
Did you have did you ever have red cabbage?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
My we just called her Grossmater. My dad's grandma, my
great grandma Sidler. She would make every Thanksgiving, would do
uh do red cabbage. And it was red cabbage. It
was a vinegarous smell. I could never choke it down
as a kid. My grandma then would put sometimes put
like some bacon in it to try to salvage it,
and that helped. I have not had it in probably

(01:06:49):
thirty years. I don't even know. I know, I can
tell you I could smell it. I can smell it
right now, but I could not tell you the taste
of it. I don't know if I would like it
or not now, but it was a staple. Everything's Giving
was red cabbage.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Wow. And it would smell up the whole place. There
was no way to avoid.

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
Yeah, I mean, and then cabbage has a smell to it,
so like the combination of the two would take over.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
The whole operation was the red Cabbage. We'd have it
every single time. Yeah, all right, we're gonna do a
little quarterback competition.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
See what PFTs, Mike Floria, and Chris Sims have to
say about I'm curious to see if they know the
real truth because Mary Kay Robert wrote about it again
this week. We had her on last week. We've been
talking about it for a month about what the real
truth is with the quarterbacks. I'm curious what their version
of the real truth is. We'll have that for you
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Speaker 6 (01:08:11):
I got this from Mac Jim.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
You have a tweets at the show.

Speaker 6 (01:08:14):
I don't know what it is, but golf course, clubhouse
dogs and sausages are always good.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
I can tell you what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
It's the same reason that it tastes great at a ballpark.
You having the time of your life, you're playing golf.
You assimilate the hot dog with the golf.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Same.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Going back to what you were saying with, yeah for sure,
I mean yeah, we were saying that in the break
with That's what I did with the littles when when
they were really little, and I would take him to
the golf course with me Is and paidon.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I remember this, NBC. I remember this especially like I
would go. We would go to the course.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
I would let him pick out the color gatorade that
he wanted and the candy bar that he wanted, and
we would go play. So for him, it's like training
a dog, speaking of to run something by you. With Buddy,
he did something I've never seen him do before in
just a second, so he would then for him, he
would equate golf club, golf, hanging out with dad, drinking

(01:09:12):
a gatorade, sucking down a Snickers.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Perfect. Yeah win, Okay, I'm in, I'm in dead let's
go there, we go, let's go to golf.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Yeah, so, buddy garrity, he's I don't know if anybody
else has what he's a retriever. Yeah, he's terrified of
the pool, gotcha. Now, I've heard that retrievers versus labs,
like labs will just jump in. They can't wait sure
and retreat. He won't, Like he pushes. I've tried to,
Like when he was little, i would try to like
carry him in, and he just panic. He would panic.

(01:09:43):
He hates it, hates it, and now he just won't
go near it. So like the boys, he'll run around
the pool as the boys are in the pool and
like chase him and bark and play, but he won't
jump in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
So it's hot. So I'm like, you know what, I'm
gonna get him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
I'm gonna get him a kind of a little splash
pad that he can bounce around in and lay in
the pool and cool off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
He could float on a little bit and you just
kind of go, oh, no, not in the pool.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
It's outside. He won't go near the pool, all right.
So it's when you put the grass that we put
the dog in the pool.

Speaker 6 (01:10:12):
It would be like and he just float and you're like,
all right, yeah, yeah, this was an awful idea how
to get.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
The dog out of the pool. No, he's so he's
on the outside.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
It's like it's like a splash pat so it like
sprink there's a sprinkler around it and there's a pool
of water that goes. So he was having a ball,
like it was fun for him. Got him to kind
of sit down in the water and see it was
cool and that was okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Loved in this. He drank a lot of it. That's
what he ended up doing. He ended updrinking a lot
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
So I'm going in Sunday, we've been out, we're outside
all day, and this was probably around or all morning.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
It was probably around two o'clock.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
And I go upstairs and he waits at the base
of the stairs and then he just peas on the carpet. Now,
he hasn't done that since he was like six months.
Like it was almost like an act of defiance, and
I was like, what what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Brother? Yeah, this is not what we do. So we
had a talk and then we went outside.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
So forty five minutes goes by and my wife's like by,
like the the fire pit has like some stonework and
stuff around it, and we're up on that level and
his she's standing there and he just pees like on
the sidewalk. Now there's grass everywhere, so then I go.
So then we have another talk and then I said go,

(01:11:32):
like there's all this grass, go there. So I said,
go ponting and I pointed. Then he went out and
went to the bathroom for probably like three minutes straight.
So I'm like, obviously he had to go. I don't
understand why he did. Obviously overdrank and he had to go,
and I don't know if he couldn't control it or what.
But what I didn't understand is why he didn't just
go where he always goes. He left, asks the shot

(01:11:54):
queen about that. I've never seen that type of behavior.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Where the official animal warden.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Yeah, we need to warden on. Let's go strange though
it's very strange.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
Could he have like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
A U T I or something?

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
No, because he was I don't think so. He goes
to the vet quite often.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
But also because the have a wing named after your
dog too, because I'm pretty sure I have half a
building you could in West Park.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
No, I think it's so bad. Then well, I'll say yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
No, because he was right back to normal and he
was normal Friday, he was normal Saturday, and he's normal today,
and he was normal last night.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
After he did the two things. It was like he
was defiant and I'm like, I did this for you, dude,
Like what are we doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
So I've never seen any and he had fun, he
had a ball, he was didn't having the time of
his life. It was strange, like he I don't know.
I don't know if he just never drank that much
water in one city he couldn't control it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
But he has not done it inside since he was
like six months. I mean it's been years.

Speaker 6 (01:12:55):
Yeah, that doesn't make it any No, no, it's not normal.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Let's see if this makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:12:59):
Here's pft's Mike Floria and Chris Simms discussing the Browns
quarterback competition.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Actually, before we.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Play this, you and I are gonna pick our sides
as one of their top five training camp storylines. Before
we play this, though, do you think they will have
this right in terms of what's happened here in the
last month, or do you think they'll follow.

Speaker 6 (01:13:17):
The name so I cut it off.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Oh you've cut it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Okay, So I think they're gonna follow a narrative and
I don't think they're gonna have it right.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
That's before I play it. That's my hunch. Okay, let's
have a.

Speaker 12 (01:13:25):
Listen the storylines we are looking forward to, whether it's
training camp battles, or anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
It's as broad as we were on it to be.

Speaker 12 (01:13:32):
When training camps open and the teams gather and stuff
starts to happen, what are the storylines that we will
most be looking forward to paying attention to? The first
one for me is the Browns quarterback. What are they
gonna do? Who's gonna get reps? How are they gonna
get a guy ready? Because that's the thing. You need
to figure out who your start is gonna be. So
you need to have a competition, but you need to

(01:13:53):
get a competition resolved so the guy who's gonna be
the starter can get ready. I mean, to me, at
all points to Joe Flacco because he's the guy who
is most likely to be ready to go week one
with limited reps.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
He's been there, he's done that, he's a veteran.

Speaker 12 (01:14:07):
He doesn't need to go out there and have all
of these practice snaps so he's ready to go week one,
and then you focus on which of the two rookies
is going to be in line to be number two
and the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Guy that is most likely to be developed.

Speaker 12 (01:14:20):
But that's competition is going to continue all year long,
or at least until it's time to put one of
them on the field, and even then the competition won't
be over. We may not know who the starter is
between Dylan Gabriel and Shaduur Sanders of the Long Haul
for two or three years. They've got their contracts at
very low amounts. One was drafted round three, the other
was drafted round five, and they've got them for four

(01:14:42):
years each.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
This competition may last for a very long time.

Speaker 12 (01:14:45):
But I think that how this all works, and I
still am putting the flag in the ground on Kenny
Pickett won't be there when training camp opens. I think
it'll be Flacco and Gabriel and Sanders battling it out,
with Deshaun Watson possibly showing up at some point saying
I've been clear to p deal with me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yeah no, I I I hear that too.

Speaker 15 (01:15:03):
I'm excited to see how that that plays as well,
how they how they divvy up the reps, how who
and how much they play in the preseason games and
where that all goes as as definitely fascinating.

Speaker 16 (01:15:15):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (01:15:15):
And they've you know, they've put themselves in quite the
awkward position there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:20):
I think I was mostly right because he was quite Uh.
He was very quick to push Pickett aside. Yes, and
to say that he wouldn't even be here.

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
That's the Florio Anti. You know, he's got the Steelers back.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Yeah, I think it's it's probably the one.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
I I feel like we've done a good job of
explaining that here on the show, and I feel like
I have to explain it like in my private life
a lot. But the one thing I just keep saying
is like, you have to understand that they view Kenny
Pickett the same way, almost the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Same way as you would view Gabriel and Sanders. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
They're all young quarterbacks. Kenny's just got twenty five starts
in the league, so that gives him a heads up.
Remember he's the first one they acquired. The one difference
between Pickett and the other two is the other two
are under team control for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Yeah, and they're.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
Relatively cheap, whereas Pickett is not under team control for
a long time and if he plays well, you're gonna
have to redo a contract.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
So that could make that one a little bit sticky.

Speaker 5 (01:16:21):
The one thing that and Mary Kate again, I mean,
she did a great job today and the story and
that she wrote today that I read about this. The
one thing about the the Flacco part of it is
we've always said that Flacco's the break if break glass guy,
and that's the way he was handled in mini camp. Sure,
I do think his first part is on point. Like

(01:16:43):
if if you get to a point where you essentially
have like these kind as are kind of all the same,
does it make like, for example, if Gabriel and Sanders
catch up or surpass Picket, then at that point you'd
have to have a decision about out how to start
the year, and it would probably would be Flaco at
that point. But I think that's going to be the

(01:17:04):
thing that's gonna be fascinating to play out.

Speaker 6 (01:17:06):
Yeah, I mean, do we go to camp with four quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
I think we do too. I don't I don't agree
with the whole picket won't be here. Picket will be here. No,
now what those look like? You know, do they reset
the system based on what we saw in mini camp?
I don't know, you know, I mean it's Flacco, You're
number one, is Picket your number one? One of those

(01:17:34):
two's number one, and then is the other one the
break glass guy, and then the two rookies are for
two and three?

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Maybe I think, I mean, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Yeah, that's that's kind of what I've and I've been
saying this for a month. I really think there's a
chance that we could have four to quarterbacks at this
end of the regular season. A little bit that that
that could be the case, because you're not you are
not going to allow one of those rookies to go
through waivers.

Speaker 4 (01:17:58):
You're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
So you're you're going to be in a situation where
I think you could see four of them in that spot.
So you know, that's not bad out of Florio.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
No, no, no, Like when you asked, I said, well,
I don't want to give it away, but it wasn't bad.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
It's not bad.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
And I just think he's just better than some of
the things.

Speaker 5 (01:18:16):
He's he's minimizing the shot PICKT has and most have
quite Honestly, most people have.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
This is chick now. But that's a very good job.
He's a loyal listener.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
He goes, I can't hear Mike Florio anymore without thinking
about his Tommy DeVito rant. That was the most uncomfortable
fifteen or so minutes of radio I've ever heard.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
Try to get it back, say, I don't think either
one of these guys were here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
It was. It was such an odd it was a
choice to go that route with it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Who's kind of we're trying to story that everybody has
everyone's having fun with it in the league. And he
took it as like he was like, was it which
one had the problem in this? I'm looking at you
like you've seen the Sopranos, Brock.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
Was it was it sil who had the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
Problem with the Columbus State parade? Sil Sill? Yeah, Yeah,
it was a little bit of that. He was kind
of sill in the Sopranos on that side of things. Yeah,
you're gonna hear for Miles Garrett. Coming up next, Cleveland
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Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
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Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
I tend him to head from the podium, presented by
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the Ultimate Game Day. Here is all pro defensive end
Miles Garrett from Mandatory Mini Camp.

Speaker 16 (01:19:43):
Back Building feel good. I mean I've been back here
a couple of times. I mean, don't really make my
presdent to wear it to you all go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
You all came out last week.

Speaker 10 (01:19:56):
Jim Schwartz said he expects for your best season, how
do twenty five? And he's thought it was because some
of the stuff for the off season, right, the huge contract,
everything that went with that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Do you feel that pressure to have your best season?

Speaker 16 (01:20:09):
The great power? Uh, with great power come good responsibility.
That would make him my uncle Ben run I. I
mean I look forward on my best season for sure,
and uh, I think it's trending that way. Feeling really good,
and UH think everything is putting in that direction, and
I like, you know, where were we are as a
a defense Unit's really firing, really rolling, and uh, I

(01:20:32):
think it's really clicking as far as sou the uh
this scheme in the place, especially early on.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
That's that's big.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Do you agree with that sentiment that you know, with
real power comes great responsibility.

Speaker 4 (01:20:45):
Yeah, I do. And the responsibility has never changed. The
power has never changed.

Speaker 16 (01:20:50):
You know. Just today I step forth, uh you know
here at this facility. You know, with this organization, I've
I've had a opportunity to to have a apply and
to set a standard. And I gotta continue to to
be the the leader for this team and set that standard.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
House.

Speaker 13 (01:21:05):
When you asked them for that trade, y, you said
that you didn't think this team was was ready to win.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
That's why you wanted to be traded.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
So how do you as uh assess the roster as it?

Speaker 16 (01:21:19):
How do I assess it? Well, that's what mini camp
and training camp is for. You know, we assess it
every single day. Go seeing out guys you know, uh
attack uh the practice field, how they come in and
prepare you know, from day to day. And if they
don't get it, you know, you make them get it,
no tru you know, like I said, being that leader,
setting that standard and uh know, showing guys how it's

(01:21:39):
done they set of expecting them to to know it.
You know, guys come from different places come from college,
and you gotta you gotta push 'em in the right direction.

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
You gotta guide 'em.

Speaker 13 (01:21:47):
But do you think this team could be better then
you thought it would be.

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
I know they'll be better. I know we will be better.

Speaker 9 (01:21:54):
I was, what are your early what are your early
impressions of these young quarterbacks? Obvius, We seen them for
the past couple of months, got got some with them.
Uh today, just what are your impersions seeing them on
the field in the building.

Speaker 16 (01:22:05):
Well, oh lord, okay, made out the divine intervention. I
mean I only really saw doing today, you know, as
far as getting reps in this team, and uh, it
was composed by running the offense pretty well. His eyes
got pretty big when I you know, got free and
I was face up on 'em. But you know, all

(01:22:27):
of 'em look pretty no calm, no, just you know,
going through their textas, going through their calls, you know,
making them plays they need to make. Not doing too
much right now, and they'll they'll have time to continue
to they'll display their talents and you know it's just
one day, one day at a time. Continue to you know,
earn the trusty or your coaches and your teammates and

(01:22:47):
I think you know they'll be able to open up
the game.

Speaker 11 (01:22:49):
You just expressed the utmost confidence that you know this
team will be better than you thought of it was
gonna be. So just wondering what's kind of giving you
get here at this point?

Speaker 16 (01:22:58):
Know, being here, no, always standing in communication with the
the guys, seeing how they're working, and continue to, uh,
you know, be a presence even while I'm not no
physically here, but I'm back and now it's it's time
to go.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
Do you have any.

Speaker 8 (01:23:13):
Conversation and the guys like coming back after the hectic
seas and everything that happened to crazing the trust and.

Speaker 16 (01:23:20):
Everything like for sure, yep, I've talked to the guys
and you know they they understand. You know, it's it's
it's a it's a business, and you know we we
love what we do and and you know I love
this team and he understand that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
You know, I was no trying to do what's best
for me.

Speaker 16 (01:23:35):
And you know after talking with him and like I said,
no months ago, you know, talking with A B and
and keV, you know, what's what's best for me and
what's best for this team.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
You know, eventually out of line.

Speaker 16 (01:23:46):
And we we you know, looking forward, you know, to
the future of this team and and how we can
uh you know, achieve the the goals that we want to.

Speaker 18 (01:23:56):
How they get Who was the most out of your teammates?
Everyone knows what you can do as an individual more
life for you guys to get this thing on tracks
it it it has to come from the players.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
So what can you do to help.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Extract the very fast out of your teammates?

Speaker 16 (01:24:16):
Think, the the intensity and the urgency just has to
take another level, uh t take it another level up
rather and uh now I can't expect you know, someone
else would do it on any other side of the
ball or any other position room. You know, gotta be
the leader in the entire team. And uh you know

(01:24:36):
that's that's what's been uh laid out for me. You know,
like like you've said, you know, Jimmy said it, No,
Kevin said it. You know, I I'll take the reins
and I'll I'll be that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
What's a mess?

Speaker 7 (01:24:46):
What's the out going message to Nick Chubb as he starts.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
A new job this week.

Speaker 16 (01:24:52):
I love Nick, and I think a lot of the
guys go out in this locker room. Still feel the
same way, you know as I do. Uh It it
cr just to see him getting injured. You I have
to battle through and then you know it happened again.
So you know, we we want the very best for him.
UH Happy to see him. Uh I'm still able to play,
still able to do his thing. You don't wanna see him,

(01:25:14):
you know, go back to being the player that he
was and have a smile on his face, continue to don't.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Ball out, keep lobbying to getting him back.

Speaker 16 (01:25:22):
Yeah, I'm that was part of my uh talks with
uh Ab, you know, a couple of months ago, you know,
asking you know, the situation went neck and you know
how that's gonna that's gonna work out, and you know
how we can get him back here cause you know,
I know he he means a lot to the fans.
That he means a lot to throw us as well
in the locker room. So you know, it's a it's

(01:25:43):
a emotional blows and not have him here. But you know, well,
you know, we we gotta keep on moving, keep on trucking.
You know, we we got some very talented, you know
backs in that room. You know, some some young hungry
guys who have a hell of an example, uh to
watch and some some shoes to fill. But uh uh,
you know he's he's one of their best to to
ever do it in the Brown and Orange, and we
appreciate everything he's done.

Speaker 19 (01:26:04):
You you've seen him. You've seen him work behind the
scenes like most people have haven't. You've seen him to
overcome you know, these injuries. But I've obviously there's he's
gonna be questions about.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
What he looks like moving forward, What what do you
think his future.

Speaker 16 (01:26:19):
Will look like?

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
In minepot?

Speaker 16 (01:26:21):
I I won't put any kind of parameters, expectations or
limits on his his future and what he can do,
cause he's broken through and all the siblings that and
we've set forth for him. You know, with the the
recovery from the injuries that he's had, how substantial they've been,
and yet he's you know, come back, excelled, the me
able to play at a high level. You know, it's

(01:26:41):
it's tough enough being you know, on the NFL roster
and to come back Ben to being the guy again
and and you know, toting the rock. You know, he's
he's special and I hope he continue to beat up
you honor for him.

Speaker 7 (01:26:52):
To play, help him, help the stranger to be.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
You see him.

Speaker 7 (01:26:56):
Find success somewhere else, used to stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
I think that's right. Range Yeah, wrong, wrong way to
put it.

Speaker 9 (01:27:02):
Mixed feelings maybe.

Speaker 16 (01:27:04):
No, no big feelings now I d I hope, oh hoping.
What's the best one that doesn't change whether he's you
know he or anywhere else. No, Well, if if we
play him, I I hope them to punish him. But hm,
you know if seeing him on TV, you know, just
playing on Sundays or or Mondays or whatever it is,
you know, I'm I'm gonna be happy for him because
he's he's able to play his game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
That's a priblem clon el State drafted Mason.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
To give you a little out up front. What are
your early impressions of him and what do you think.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
He's gonna be able to do for you?

Speaker 16 (01:27:34):
Uh? I think he's hungry, he's uh, he's pretty quiet.
But you know, I I see him see him watching
a lot, I see him learning, and uh, he he
justly think a really inquisitive, you know, staying near to
make sure that he hears every like every detail and uh,
you know, just picking up on things you don't see him,
you know, taking a thing from the uh the meeting

(01:27:56):
room to the playing field. Not that really asking him
any questions, but just you know, naturally they picking up
an que.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Well, let's so you were off on.

Speaker 7 (01:28:04):
The side sort of talk to him and on the
other you guys are call up to do some things.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Cause one of those conversations like how much can you
help him as he tries to yourself off.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
The tide is fum, Yeah, I mean he's just trying
to get my uh.

Speaker 16 (01:28:17):
Bit of my my cues, my mindset as far as
going against him at that that tick of position on
that side, and uh, you know what made me do
what moved, what triggered this response and this reaction, and
they're trying to walk through it with him, and uh,
you know, help him. I'll get rid of some Tennessees
that he he uh he has on that side, and
just you know, try to sharpen him up a couple more.

Speaker 14 (01:28:37):
We we we'll, we're going.

Speaker 11 (01:28:38):
You mentioned this a little bit, but we talked to
Jimmy Haslam at the Owner's meetings and and he did
say there this is a little different than what Jim
Schwartz said, but he did challenge you to step up
your leadership and and become even more of a leader
you have him, which.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
I think we've watched you grow in that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Area over the years.

Speaker 11 (01:28:54):
But uh, do you have more in that space that
that you feel like you can do?

Speaker 13 (01:28:58):
And how did you feel about people the same?

Speaker 14 (01:29:00):
Nah?

Speaker 16 (01:29:02):
I don't feel anyways by him saying, you know, that's
his uh expectation, that's been his expectations from the beginning.
And uh, and I think losing a leader like Nick
as well, Uh, it definitely puts some more of expectation
on to to gain more leadership in other areas. And
you know he he pointed at me and then'll put
the the the red donnar me in.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
That's fine.

Speaker 16 (01:29:24):
You know, I'll continue to to grow as a as
a leader, in a as a player, which I expect
to every year. And uh gonna do what I can.
You know, he uh, he gave me that, uh that
power and you know I gotta gotta be responsible for it.

Speaker 13 (01:29:37):
He d w hows when you said in the interview,
you said, uh, you had a suspicion who the quarterback
would be. So did you know that they're gonna go
get Joe Flacco?

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
D h.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
I had an idea you thought it would be him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Yeah, and you gotta take.

Speaker 19 (01:29:53):
So much fun that year.

Speaker 20 (01:29:53):
I mean, what is it like do you have Joe
back and dayes that give you, regardless of what happens
in the competition, knowing that Joe is in the build
holding Joe and Joe's in the house, does that give
you some excitement, comfort whatever?

Speaker 16 (01:30:05):
How do you feel about He's a calm, cool presence
in the in the QB room, which I think you
always need when you have young guys in there. And
I mean it doesn't hurt any time, even if you
have a veteran not just someone to give you know,
some sound, insightful and advice now to help you know,
walk through things. That's that's always no, uh, a great asset.

(01:30:27):
So you know, to have that in the QB room,
which is the most important room in the in the building,
that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Rodgers coming into the astars, What.

Speaker 4 (01:30:36):
Do I think about it? Facing twice a year. I
think it's a good opportunity to put him in the graveyard.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
That's nice walk off for Miles on that one for sure.
Oh Tani's pitching tonight, Yeah, what's up with that? He's
gonna pitch one inning. So this is like the typical
one where you'd go in the old days, you go
to the miners, but they can't take his bat out
of the life. He's the best player in baseball. Who's
going to pitch one inning for the for the Dodgers tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Crazy stuff. Ten o'clock on. That does it all, He
really does all right. The next level is coming up next.
We're back tomorrow. Thanks for listening Clevel The Browns Daily,
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