Play by Play Voice Andrew Siciliano Talks OTAs - Cleveland Browns Daily - 5.30.25

On this Friday episode of CBD, play by play voice of the Browns Andrew Siciliano talks with Z about the Browns OTAs and offseason so far (1:18:43, 1:24:32).

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus
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Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good afternoon, and welcome to Cleveland Browns Daily, presented by
Bally bettan official sports betting partner of Your Cleveland Browns.
Nathan Zegura here in Berea and very happy to be
joined today by my broadcast partner, the play by play
voice of Your Cleveland Browns from ESPN Los Angeles, Andrew Ceciliano.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, buddy, doing great.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
It's good to have you. Good to see you. Good
to have you back stateside.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You've been an international man of mystery, gallivanting around the world.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Is your playground?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
How you doing, dude. It's good to be back. Like
I said, it's going to be back in the US
of A. It's going to be back in a like
a professional radio studio as.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, beautiful studio with you.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
My body clock is still beyond upside down. Yesterday I
woke up at three thirty in the morning. Today progress
I woke up at four thirty in the morning. I'm
not jet lagged, It's just that my clock is beyond hard.

(01:50):
To go back West, oh gosh, and I'm eating at
all hours. First world problem. Everything is good.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
By the way, you should know that you're four to
thirty wake up call. That's my mom's standard. That's how
she rolls nan at the official nan every day, every day,
every day four thirty.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I don't mind. For listen, for years and years and years,
I was up at five forty five every day. I'm
still pretty much up at five forty five every day.
It was three thirty two days ago that turned me
upside that, Like at three thirty, I'm making coffee and
pounding out emails. I was out of the country for
twelve days and so whatever, like wake up, pay bills,
do laundry, catch up on emails. I didn't mind it.

(02:32):
But then at ten am, you want lunch. Yeah, nine
thirty you want lunch. It's the thing again. First world problem.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It is is certainly tough to get going back. As
I said, coming back West, I think is always very tough.
I remember the one time from Cleveland that I went
to Hawaii, which is I guess six hours behind and
you're probably out there where you are, you're probably nine
hours behind where you were in France.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Uh I was, yeah, I it was nine hours from France,
and before that I was in the Middle East.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I was ten Okay, So that is tough. Like to
me when I went to why, I was up every
morning breakfast five. I'm fine getting up at seven ish,
but I don't need it five forty.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
That's to me. That's that's tough.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
And the NANA program four thirty not great. So you've
had a lot of great travels. I know you were
out there at And how do you pronounce Is it
Roland Garros?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Am I saying it right?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I know that you got me on my other international pronunciations.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, I'll say Roland Garros? Yes, I was laughing listening.
It was fine.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
How do you say that city? How do you actually
say it? Keith?

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So you guys were talking about Joe Thomas and the Galapagos. Yeah, right,
And and you you said the capital of Ecuador was Quito.
It should be Qui's Quito. Did you never take a
Spanish class, dude? Well, I was high school.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
We wei Japaul Francais.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay, you're asking me how to say rolland garros, and
you took free because to.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Me, so this is when it occurred to me looking
at it, that sounds like that should rolling Garo.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Sounds like he should be in Spain.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's fine. People call it rolling Garros. That's fine.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Then you go into his real name, Keto. See.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
To me, Keto is like getting into ketosis, which is
k e t oh? Is this a Keto friendly bread?
If it's you're having bread with the hof guess what,
it's keto friendly?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's fine. No, the capitol of Ecuador is Keto. I
laughed out loud. You know. It was one of those
points where I wanted to talk back to my radio,
except it was.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
A podcast American. That's me being an America.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
The airport in Paris with with my headphones on, going
to get on the plane, going to fly home. I'm
listening to your Ota preview show and you're like, yeah,
he's in Quito, Like how do you even get the quido?
And I'm like, oh my god, help help.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
He said, you're much more of a world traveler than
I am, much more significantly.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's Spanish. It's like every seventh grade kid in Spanish class.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
But I never took a Spanish class, so and forgive
me my kids. My kids would both know it, like
I did well enough to get around Perry when I
was there. They were very appreciative of my efforts. Did
you know this? So I looked it up because Roland Garrison, like,
how is this guy synonymous with the French Open? And
obviously the story is an aviator and a pioneer, French

(05:22):
aviation pioneer.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Do you know his real name? No, Eugene adrian Roland
Georges Garos. So that's a little more French to me.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Now when you get the Eugene and the Adrianne and
the George, like a George sank Garos, that's the that's
the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
So it's interesting me.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Roland is actually the third of five names, Garos, the
last name that he went by, Roland.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh, I know he's had a good time. It was
on my bucket list. I was there for a day
day one of the French Open. I had a grounds
pass kind of like that was a bucket list. First
time that was a bucket list. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't
like the all access ticket. I couldn't go to the
big court, but I could go to like every other
court and walk around, have a good time, have a
couple of beers, enjoy the scene the festival. Like day one,

(06:13):
everyone's having a good time, having a beer and enjoying
the weather. A little rain delay in there for a
little bit. Saw our guy Tommy Paul his first round match.
He just won another five setter today to uh, I
believe move through the third. It was awesome, man, Like,
I can't recommend it enough. I'm fortunate to be able
to do these things in some free time of the
offseason and check the box bucket list. It was pretty

(06:37):
pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
So are you a tennis officionado? Is it a bucket
list because it's tennis? Is it a bucket list because
it's in Paris?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
What? What made that a bucket list for you?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
It was a bucket list because it is a great
sporting event, period.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay, went to Wimbledon one, same thing, walked around on
day one, went to the French Open, Now got that
one as well. I appreciate the big EVENTDS. Why not,
Like if you haven't get the ability to get in
the door and see it and say you did it
and experience it like it's like when you walk in
you're like, Okay, I get it, this is cool. I

(07:16):
am not the biggest tennis fan I watch. I mean,
I'm not watching your average atp Tour stop in Cincinnati, Like, no,
I'm not doing that. I can't tell you who's moving
up and down the rankings every week. No, do I
watch the majors?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Absolutely. Like golf, I'm not watching your average PGA Tour stop.
I'm just not. Am I going to watch the majors? Yes?
Are you more of a golf fan than me? Yes?
Is going to the US Hope I'm going to mean
more to you than it does to me. Yes. I've
been fortunate though to go to the US Open, and
I respect it at anytime. Look, we're lucky to do

(07:54):
what we do.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Totally, I am.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
There isn't a day I wake up and I really
do mean, I mean, there are days when you want
to punch the wall. There are days when you get
frustrated at work. I mean, all of us, no matter
what the job is, and our job is no different.
But I am fortunate. We are fortunate to do what
we do, and every chance that I have, I paid
for this ticket. I didn't get a free ticket that

(08:18):
I have to go to a cool event and go.
You know what, life is good, this is fun. I'm
going to do it. And I was in Paris and
I said, let's go.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
All right, what sporting events are left on your bucket list?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I want to go to the NDY five hundred. Did
not have a chance to do that Memorial Day weekend,
same day. Actually, I would love to go to any
f one race. And the day I went to the
French was the day of the Monaco Grand Prix.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
YEP, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
It was one of I have a friend who was
there who when they saw my ig that I was
in Paris, texted saying, oh, why aren't you here. I'm like, okay, cool, thanks.
Now you tell me French Open isn't a bad second place.
It's what I wanted all along. Yeah, yeah, I would
love to go. I've never gone to the US Open
in New York. That's always during training camp, right the
US Open, the Tennis Open. I want to do that.

(09:20):
I've been to Daytona. I want to go to a
World Cup match somewhere, and we're going to get the
chance because that's coming to the States obviously, and I
want to go to El Klasico so Real Madrid FC.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Barcelona see Barcelona of course.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
In either one of their buildings. I would like to
go to El Klussico one of these days.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
I like it. So that's a good that's a good
list for me. I got.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I still want to go to Augusta. I still have
not been to Augusta. I still want to go to be.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
There a few times.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
A British Open, the Open Championship.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, Formula one we might be able to hit. I
mean when we're in Vegas, right, isn't it the same weekend?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's the it's the night before so Brown's Browns Raiders,
second straight year in Vegas, the Games in November, and yeah,
the night before. I forgot about that night before? Is
F one?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
All right?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
So that's a question which means we may we may
have to stay like in Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, we're not staying. Yeah, hopefully that one's booked already.
My guess is that is that would be.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Vegas is a disaster during F one. Yeah, I'll try
to fancy that we're a solute disaster during F one.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well, hopefully if we stay kind of up where we
did last time.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
We're just not going to be going down to the strip,
I think is what it means, which means.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I'm totally down. You want to go to the race,
Let's find a way to go to the race on
Saturday night.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Stay in local. Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Maybe we can tie that into our our typical night
before game duties and be like, hey, why don't we
do these duties at the race.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I'll tell you right now, I don't need another steakhouse
in Vegas. If you want to go to the F
one one race, let's go.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
And then I would like to go to a World
Cup game. And I'd especially like to see Croatia. That
would be That would be pretty cool for me. That
would be a good one. No WrestleMania for you. Have
you seen a WrestleMania?

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I would I have zero interest to go to a WrestleMania.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's the showcase of the immortals. It's the granddaddy of
them all.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
It's like going to the theater when you don't care
about the show.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Wow, No, it's it's going.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Hold on, we do agree that it's like it's going
to the theater, right, You're going to see a dramatic performance.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Correct, very sporty.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Okay, agree on that. And the storyline right, the story arc,
it doesn't interest me.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
You don't like to see the so it's it's a
heck of a spectacle.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I guess if you will go.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I'm not a.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
No no brock either.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
What what is your favorite what's your favorite show? Right now?
You're watching Penguin is Over? What do you watch?

Speaker 4 (12:13):
I know every Last of Us just ended.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Last of Us just ended. I saw that all playing
on the way home.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Right now we're just we're starting and Or and I'm
actually I'm into it.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
The Doors fantastic. It's the best Star Wars product ever made. Period. Wow,
nothing is even closer like outside of the core. Absolutely,
it is like watching a Sunday night HBO show.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
That's how I feel.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Real dialogue, real acting, real adult themes. It is a
real show that happens to be a Star Wars show.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, that's why Rogue one was I thought, that's how
I felt about Rogue one as a movie.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
I thought, Rogue one here.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
And it's the prequel to Rogue one. So let's let's
pick a show. Let's pick And you watched severn snow.
Let's pick. Do you watch Handmaid's Tale? No? Okay? Perfect?
Here here's my example. So if I invited you to
watch a live performance of Handmaid's Tale, would you be interested?

(13:15):
You don't watch the show?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Is it? Is it?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I wouldn't want to go watch a live performance of
a wrestling stage play because I don't watch the show.
And to me, there's no difference.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
So here's where I would say that it is different.
Is that watching like?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
So to me, it would be like saying, you're gonna
watch the live finale of The Handmaid's Tale, which has
been going on for forty years, And the live finale
is a spectacle, a worldwide spectacle, will draw over a
million viewers and sell out a football size stadium two
nights in a row.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's great. The fact that other people I'd like to
see what it's about.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I want to see what it's about.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I've I've never seen the show. I don't know the characters,
I don't know the I don't know anything involved. So
why would I want to go see a dramatic representation
or presentation live of a show that I don't know
anything about? There still to be gone? I look I
am past the day and age of when I was

(14:16):
a pain in the you know what, sarcastic, snarky sports
talk radio guy taking shots at people that want wrestling,
taking shots at people that you know. Look, I did
every troll of wrestling imaginable when I was.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Why Why did you hate it so much?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I don't. I just I find I don't know. I
find it like things fundamental that I'm beyond that. Like,
I don't. If you like it, you like, I don't care.
Like I'm an adult, I don't care. Watch whatever you
want to watch. I'm just saying, it's not a show
that I watch. When I sit down to the couch
to take an hour out of my night to watch
a show, that's not a show that I watched, and

(14:59):
to it is nothing more than a show. It is
a scripted dramatic presentation. They happen to be athletes, but
it is a scripted dramatic presentation. So I'm not gonna
go watch a live performance if I've never seen the
show and don't care about the characters.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Well, I guess I will if I if I get
back in the ring for a second match, I'm not
inviting you.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
That's for sure, I would.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
I would be there to well that's totally different. I
would be there to support you.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well, I do have a bunch of friends who wrestle
that I like to see. But that's interesting, I hear
what you're saying. I'm surprised that way. So like because
we're you're we're of similar age, so you met you
were never like even as a kid when it was
kind of really a part of Americana, like hul Cogan
and the Macho Man and Rowdy Roddy Piper and all that.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Sure, when when I was a kid, I watched a
little bit, like I remember Coco be Ware, Yeah, sure,
the Birdman, the British, the British.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Bulldogs, Bulldogs.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, Like I remember that era, but I did care
like it was something where if it was on you
watched for a minute. Yeah, yeah, kind of thing. I
just didn't.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I watched a little bit of that ear.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I loved Mister Perfect, I loved Rick Rude, and I
loved the Macho Man and Hogan I liked, but I
didn't like. I was not a crazy, whole comaniac. And
then when I really got back into it was in
college when it was like the Monday Night Wars when
you had Hogan and the nWo and WCW and the
Rock and Stone Cold and mister McMahon in the WWF
like late nineties, early two thousand, that's when it was.

(16:31):
And that's like the reality is that's the peak of
the business. I would say, that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Great.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I'm happy for you.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Like, do you know what nWo stands for?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
nWo?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
No, but I still have my original NWA sets with
Okay and Doctor Dre and the Doc and easy right
am I NWA?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Of course? Dude, Yes, I liked the NWA nWo.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I have no idea what the w stood for New
World Order that was as big as wrestling.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I ever got that with me? Okay, So yeah, so
the udio now where I get.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I used to do a daily show with Michael Thompson,
Clay's dad, uh huh and uh you know legendary first
overall picked Michael Thompson, NBA champion Michael Thompson. Yeah, dear
friend Michael Thompson, who is the biggest wrestling fan on earth,
and I would have to have these conversations with him
every single day. I'd be trying to do a show
and then He would just interrupt me about something he

(17:30):
saw last night watching wrestling, and he's like, how do
you not watch? Like I don't know. And then he
would bring all these wrestlers into the studio and I
wouldn't know what to say to Like he'd bring in
I don't even remember their names. There was like an
Irish dude, is there a Shamus?

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Seamous, Yeah, okay, he came in. I like, I'm like, Michael,
you do the interview like champion. I'll get us hit
it out of break. I just don't know what to say.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
He says fella a lot. He probably said, hey, fella.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I don't remember. I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I actually I dined with Seamus at Botega Louie
in down there in La. One time true story after
a Summer Slim. They used to run SummerSlam in Staples
every year for a little while, which is probably when
you get that was a long time ago, we're going
it was at least fifteen plus years ago. They would

(18:20):
run Stay ran Staples like four years in a row
for Summer sim That that might have been when you
get some people in there, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So here's my one last argument, and not pro wrestling
in any way, but just more about going into an
experience that you think you don't really know anything about,
but just somebody's like, you gotta go for the environment
of it. And that's what I would say to you.
More is just the spectacle of it. The grandeur is
I was.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
A I totally get that, and maybe I would. It's
just not something that no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
That's fine.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I never was like a fish guy, like a jam
band guy. That was not my genre of music.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
But you know, some of the songs.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I did not going in, so at the time I
did not know. Now I know a lot of Fish songs.
But I was invited by the guy who was my
then producer at CBS Sports.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
He's like, listen, you know, I was doing.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Fancy football show on Sunday mornings for CBS and New
York and Fish plays the Garden like four nights in
a row around New Year's every year. And he was like,
we're going, and I'm like Fish, He's like, trust me,
like you'll come. It's just it's a it's an experience,

(19:33):
and that's what it was. And now I like fishing.
I've probably seen them not like a real fish person.
But I've seen them over five times. It's just a
fun it's a fun show.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I just don't know any of the characters whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
But fair enough, that's all right. That's not on your
bucket list. I wrote it down for you as a
potential blacklist. Crossed off the list, cross off list. It's
not on my list.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I've been there. I've been I've been there, I have
done that. All right, France, Paris, all all event? What
was it? What was the highlights of the trip?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Two things? Number one, Yeah, the French Open. Number two. Uh,
going to Normandy. I had never been to Normandy. That
was a part of the picture. Reason why I wanted
to go. I had full disclosure. I think we had
talked about this. I had already decided that if we,
meaning the Browns, had to buy after our game in London,
and that was uncertain whether or not we would, that

(20:25):
I was not going to come home with the team.
I was going to just stay over there and go
to Normandy. Right that you're not pleased with the decision
to play the Steelers in Pittsburgh. The followers, I mean,
what it is. It's not about It's not about my
convenience in my travel plans. But I had that kind
of in my head. I was going to do that thought,
take the trade to Paris. It was going to go
to Normandy. I'll fly home on miles or something like that.

(20:45):
And when that didn't happen, yes, mildly disappointed. That said,
I realized that I was going to be over in Israel.
I had that trip planned, and I said, you know what,
I am going to reconfigure and I am going to
check that box now. And the French open is there
as well, and I'm happy, grateful that I was able

(21:06):
to pull it off and to be to be in Normandy,
to be at the American Cemetery in Normandy, to be
at Omaha Beach, at Utah Beach. I did not get
there on Memorial Day Monday. I got there on Tuesday.
But I was in Bayo on Memorial Day, which is
a little town in Normandy, about an hour's drive, about

(21:28):
twenty minutes drive from the American Cemetery, about an hour's
drive from Utah Beach. To be there in Normandy a
Memorial Day weekend was pretty amazing. And to be in
that cemetery at four o'clock on Tuesday, to hear taps
being played and to see the flag being taken down.

(21:50):
I can't really put it into words, and I don't
want to get too darker deep here, but we all
are grateful to the men and women who have lost
their lives, who have taken up arms and paid the
ultimate sacrifice in defense of this country, and who continue
to do that right now to keep us safe and

(22:14):
to protect freedom for not only ourselves here but around
the world. We are grateful to each and every one
of them. To stand in that cemetery and to read
those names, and to understand that the average age in
that cemetery is twenty two years old, and there are
people there as young as seventeen who lied about their
age to enlist to take up arms, and they are

(22:35):
truly our greatest generation. Yes, to see those names and
to just imagine those stories, because you know every name,
even though you don't know the people in those graves,
you know every name. There isn't a name on any
of those tombstones that you read that you don't know.
Somebody with that name somewhere you went to school with,
they live in your town. You somehow cross paths in

(22:56):
your life and to know that they each have a
story and they eat had a family waiting for them
to come home. H it. It is powerful and I
highly recommend if anyone anyone has the chance to get
to Normandy do it because it's it is truly worth

(23:18):
your time.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, at incredible And your pictures I thought were great
that you that you shared.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Have you did you watch Masters of the Air?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I did?

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yeah, Yeah, good. I mean it's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
As you know, we sit here and we're very unfortunate
as you pointed out for it, like and you think
to yourself, you know, could I have done some of
the things that people did in those situations, and you'd
like to think you could, but pretty daunting and what happened,
and just people that haven't watched that whole series, but
there's big j Master of the Air. I think it's
great tucks and shows in great detail just how kind

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of insane. A lot of what we did in the
air was early before the advent of the P fifty
one Mustang, which really in many ways change the war
and made d DA successful and and a lot of
those things. So anyway, yeah, that's that's pretty good, Yeah,
of course. Yeah, and saving private rye And if you've
never seen that movie, watch it obviously.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Uh. There, So that's good. So we got a lot
of stuff coming up here, but it's good. Good to
have you back.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
By the way, I can't help but notice that nobody
can see this on the stream, but I'm going to
say it.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
You're that studio.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
What would you describe kind of emanating above your microphone
right there on the pole of the microphone. No, on
the pole of the microphone, there is something that is Yeah,
what would you how would you describe that it is?

Speaker 3 (24:37):
It is just a red on air light on the
arm of the microphone.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
So when you're just looking ahead at your microphone, that
light tells you, hey, this MIC's you're on the air
right now.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yes, yeah, that's better than we look flying blind. We
have no idea. Nobody knows if you're on the air.
You're not on the air. You have no idea.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Your mic is you press a button a box that
also doesn't have a light on it, and you have
no idea. I think it's very important and I hope
someday to.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Work in a place when he gets back from his
Italian oh.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
He this has been going on for years there's an
there's an on air light Twitter.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Handle cbd on air light that advocates for it. It's
it's birth into this region. I've like, I would imagine
left of you.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right now, or for the right of you, there's gonna
be on off cough somewhere like the on off cough
buttons in the studio.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, there's the console back here. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
That's that's how they do it in the biz, folks.
That's that's how it's done in the boos.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's a beautiful thing to see. I've been envious of
that light the whole time, looking at we're talking about
and oric. It looks like it would be something that
would obviously be in the Empire. Now I can't see
it now.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
I'm sad. That's what you'd be doing if you were here,
flying blind. That's right, ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Anyway, that's our hot Topic of the Day, presented by
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hundred days until the Brown's open their season at home
against the Cincinnati Bengals today Ota practice number three, which
we will talk about when we return, and then we're

(26:13):
gonna do a fun one.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
And I thought this was when I knew you were on.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
So something you can think about as we head into
this break here, Ceciliano, is this breaking down the Browns
road trips. We're going to go in order of your
favorite to lease favor or what you would want to
do on the Browns road trips, and then the other
part because you and I are similar in our affinity
for good food. In every city we've gone to, You're
always like, oh, this place is, but you always have

(26:38):
restaurants at the ready, favorite restaurants if you have.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
One in that city or region. Done, done, all right,
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(27:44):
Siciliano checking in from La Brown's had Ota number three.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
So a different schedule a little bit this year.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
The Browns practice on Tuesday and Wednesday, which was open
to media, and then today they practiced again, and I
like that gives them a chance to have kind of
a walk through on Thursday, look at the film, make
any changes if they want. And I heard it from
a couple of people. Another good day for the young quarterbacks.
Shador had a couple nice throws today as well, and
that's good to see. I like that they're getting as
much work as they can in because this team needs

(28:14):
to get as many reps as they can.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
For these quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
You have four guys competing for a job, Andrew, and
normally you know you're getting one guy the majority of reps.
You're getting a second guy a little bit as the backup.
The third guy gets reps here or there, and really
to keep arms fresh. But in this case, you need
to get as many plays in as you can, as
is allowed by the CBA, so that you can just
get the reps on these guys.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Look, you normally don't have four quarterbacks throwing a ball
in OTAs it simply doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. So
this is different, this is unique. It's kind of uncharted territory.
And I also want to stress and I know you
know this as well. Although it's difficult to cut this
message or have this message cut through. What happens in

(28:56):
May only matters so much. What happens in July and
August means far, far, far more. But it is good
to get positive reports about anybody, and that includes the quarterbacks,
and for the rookie quarterbacks, every little positive step does

(29:18):
mean something because it isn't just about the football. It's
about learning how to be a professional, and all these
little things do matter. But I care far more about
how Dylan Gabriel, or should or Sanders or Kenny Pickett
for that matter, look against the Carolina Panthers in the

(29:39):
first week of the preseason in a joint practice, or
against the Philadelphia Eagles in a second week of the
preseason in a joint practice, or in any of those
three games against those two teams, and then the Rams
the final week of the preseason. The final week of
the preseason actually may matter this year, and I truly will.

(30:00):
I'll say it right now. Yeah, those games matter, baby
steps right now. You were there, Look, you were there
on day one Wednesday. I was not right.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
I was not either.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I was down. I was on assignment. I was on
assignment doing something down in Mirrfield. But I've watched I've
watched the tape of every day so far of the
of these practices, and yes, I watched all of Wednesday
and broke it down. So I got I have all
that at the ready, all the stats. You know, we
got OTA trackers. Now, Siciliano, this is a big This
is a big deal.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
You find these funny, right, don't you?

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Of course it's OTAs what I found.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Somebody was saying, you know, I was doing on another
program with Mo Pedman this morning, and I said, what
I'm going to find more interesting than necessarily what the
reps are split right now or what things look like
you know, on the one day of the three of
practice that we get to see I'm more interested to
see do things change?

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Are reps changing?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Are is there are there friends that we can pick
up that allow us to decipher that they are pleased
with somebody's performance and they are going to get more
opportunities or not, or do they stay exactly the same?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
That's more to me.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
What is going to be more interesting is we kind
of go through this and go through mini camp. But
to your point, you've got an unbelievable amount of time
before it matters. But I think you're right. I think
that the preseason games are gonna matter bigly. I think
that training camp is gonna matter bigly, and all of
those things are gonna matter in a big way.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
And that's gonna be fun.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I think these will be the most meaningful preseason games
for the Cleveland Browns and quite sometime.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, which is gonna make it fun because the preseason,
I mean, let's cut the garbage. The preseason is normally
not fun. Correct the preseason as the preseason is gonna
go away eventually, and I don't know what it's going
to become. I think we do eventually get to look
the ten game home model or the eleven game home
model in even years now for the AFC, obviously it

(32:06):
switches with a seventeen game schedule. Now it eventually it
gets to eighteen.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, it's eighteen and two preseason.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Right, Yeah. The ten game model is what the NFL
has used for years for home revenue and how they
build everything, and everything is off that ten game model.
Roger Goodell does not like the preseason. He would like
to see it probably banished or maybe made only one game.
I think what Kevin has done, what Kevin Stefanski has
done with two joint practices this year is the future.

(32:34):
Obviously two of them last year as well, with the
Vikings come into town. It's the future, and it's where
coaches believe they can get better work. They would rather
have their ones on ones in a controlled environment with
another team. It helps if you have a coach who's
a friend, a colleague, who practices the same way as
you do, and you can trust. Coaches want that. They

(32:56):
won't just take any other team for a joint practice
willy nilly. They want a guy that they know does
things the same way. But that's where you get the
good work. And that's where I want to see Dylan
Gabriel and should or Sanders. How they do that to
me means the most and the preseason games, I mean,
obviously that means a lot as well. What happens here

(33:17):
in rookie minicamp does have a lot of value. But
the stats, the stats don't look I won't say what show.
I turned on a show and they had the stats
up on the screen and they're over analyzing efficiency numbers
for the four quarterbacks. This quarterback was more efficient. This
quarterback had more touchdowns. Can we point out that, by

(33:38):
the way, Shaudor is only getting work Wednesday? Really in
the red zone? Right?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
It was a red zone period, Okay, Right, so there's
the reason you had three touchdowns. He's in the red zone. Now,
that's not to take away from his performance. He looked good. Yep,
thumbs up. He looked good. But you cannot make any
grand conclusion whether guy good or bad from any of
this right now?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
In may correct that is a fact, all right. One
thing which is funny that I'm gonna run by you.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
And then you mentioned talking about the eighteen game schedule
I have come up with and Bo as well, we
came up with a new This is our vision for
the NFL moving forward. I want to get your take
on it. But first, the funny but true. Everything I'm
about to tell you is true. The year two thousand
and two, the Carolina Panthers had a losing record. That January,

(34:33):
the Ohio State Buck Guys won the National Championship. The
Panthers would open the two thousand and three season against
the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that year Jennifer Lopez j LO
file for divorce from her then husband Chris Judd. The
Panthers made the Super Bowl. The year was twenty fourteen.

(34:54):
The Ohio State Buck Guys won the National Championship. The
Panthers had a losing record. The Panthers opened the twenty
fifteen season against the Jacksonville Jaguars. JLO filed for divorce
from her then husband Mark Anthony. The Panthers made the
Super Bowl. The year was twenty twenty four The Ohio

(35:16):
State Buck Guys have won the National Championship. The Carolina
Panthers will open the twenty twenty five season against the
Jacksonville Jaguars. JLO just filed for divorce from Ben Affleck
will the Panthers make the Super Bowl again.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
It feels like the Browns.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Will have joint practices this year against the NFC representative
in the Super Bowl and the defending Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Okay, just history, hold on. Jaylo and Ben Affleck were
married as of last week, not.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
As of last week, but they got divorced. She's been
divorced sin since in this year.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I just thought, yeah, I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
By the way, this post came to me via the
great PFT commenter, but it's true.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Okay, So yeah, so get ready for Bryce Young's Super Bowl.
I mean, it's hard to argue that an amazing it'll
be amazing test for the Browns and they're two young
quarterbacks to take on the eventual NFC champions in a
joint practice coming up this summer in Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Buckle up, buckle up, and they have to take on
the defending Super Bowl champions.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I mean, this is a murderer's row of joint practices.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Have you told the Eagles yet that they're gonna get
knocked off by the Carolina Panthers.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
No, but we'll show them the graphic when we're there.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Because I'm Brian Westbrook yeah, and the Buckeyes won, and
the one of the things would not make a pattern.
You have three things happening. Actually, it's four things that
have happened in each of those years. So we'll see
if that happens. All right, here's my plan for the NFL,
because I feel like, I know it didn't happen, but
it feels like the NFL wants to get away from

(36:51):
the division winning teams hosting playoff games. They want to
get to a straight seating typically. I feel like when
you kind of hear these things floated out there, it's
for a reason.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Right, Yeah, they do want to do that, correct, But
I listen, I have been on record for years saying
that there is no way it was ever going to
happen because owners want, and teams want, and coaches want
the division title to mean something they and I agree
with them. If you win the division, you should host
a home playoff game. Owners don't want to give up

(37:22):
a home playoff game. They don't and I never thought
that they would ever agree to do this, but I
think the league office wants it, and I don't think
it's for competitive fairness. It isn't like the Vikings had
to go play the Rams. That game was in Phoenix
because of the wildfires in LA. The Vikings had to

(37:42):
go play the Rams on the road, even though the
Vikings had the far better record. The Vikings got their
tails kick and Sam Darnold got sacked nine times. So
people look at that and go, well, that's unfair. I
personally don't care, but I think it's eventually going.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
To change, so I think I think it's totally I
don't think what the Vikings had to do was unfair.
I think that the notion that a division's record that
there is an equity and schedule by division because of
the way the schedule's done. For example, this year, the
Browns get and our division gets. You have to play
in the AFC North first of all, which is a

(38:17):
very difficult division, and then you draw the full NFC North,
so that that is what the schedule that the Browns
are going to play is not the same as the
schedule that the Titans or the Jags are gonna play.
So to me, making it purely based on record is
not fair. So this is what I came up with.
This was just spitball. So eighteen game schedule, nine home,

(38:41):
nine road. But what we're really gonna end up with
as we try to grow the game is, you're gonna
end up with eight home and eight road games the
eighteen game schedule. Guess what how many teams are in
each conference?

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Sixteen?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Well, how about that, So you're gonna play every team
in your conference once. That's fifteen games to maintain the
division rivalries or thoughts of the division. You're still gonna
play Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and Cinc. Twice home and home. So
that gets you to eighteen games. Right, You're gonna play
one game internationally every year. Every team is gonna play international.
Every team will correct, and you're gonna play one game

(39:14):
and a domestic neutral. So let's say one year when
we're playing the Colts, we decide we're gonna play the
Colts in South Bend at Notre Dame touchdown Jesus in
the background.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
So you're gonna take.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
NFL games to teams cities that don't have but have
great stadiums, cool college atmospheres, things like that. That part
doesn't have to happen. That was just something I added
in to try.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
To keep it equal. Home.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
The idea you like it?

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Like the idea?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah, I go playing South Bend. That'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
So the part of it that would stake right is
that then you never play an NFC team unless you
play them in the.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Super which I don't think is ever going to happen.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
Probably not, but that was my way of keeping it games.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Here's why I don't think what happen. I like the
idea is now that you have the crossflex between the
two network work for years, at least the two Sunday
afternoon networks. For years, CBS obviously had the AFC and
Fox at the NFC. Now you have the cross flex
where we're gonna have games this year on Fox that
that don't seem like here. Let's look like for example,

(40:15):
Browns Packers, Browns line here, Browns Bengals Week one is
a Fox game, right, that may be a sense, right, Yeah,
so that's because of the cross flex. If you do
that and you say you only play AFC, you only
play NFC, right, you only play in your conference.

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I don't know that the networks would like that. I
think there'd be too much fighting for the inventory there.
I don't think it's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
I think the reason and this is the understated reason.
The reason that the league office is pushing for reseeding
and pushing to take away the automatic home game for
the eight division winners is kind of under the radar.
It's the fact, and the Browns kind of were part

(40:58):
of the story last year. It's the fact that they
had trouble. The league had trouble. I could tell you
this with knowledge. They had trouble filling out the national
standalone windows in December and January last year. And the
more and more standalone windows meaning say a Black Friday

(41:18):
game on Amazon right or the Christmas games on Amazon
and Netflix this year, Netflix and Amazon this year.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Because it's Thursday.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
The more and more standalone games you have late in
the season as you peel them off Peacock with another
Week seventeen exclusive. They've had that the last couple of years,
and networks will pay and are paying massive money for those.
You need to make sure that they get their money's worth.

(41:46):
And when you have those standalone windows, and networks rite
big checks. If you take away the automatic home game
for the division winner and you tell these teams we
don't sit your starters late in the year. Let's take
the Chiefs for example, they've already won the division week fifteen.

(42:08):
Patrick Mahomes may not have to play Week seventeen, what
does it matter. But if you tell the Chiefs that
Week seventeen, you're not locked into that home game in
the playoffs, that you still need to fight the other
teams in the conference, then you have more valuable games

(42:32):
with more teams playing their starters Week sixteen, seventeen, and
even eighteen, and those standalone games are easier to find
for a national TV audience. And last year, look the Browns,
we got flexed out of a game. We got flex
out of a Sunday against the Dolphins in the rain
in December at home, and we obviously got flex out

(42:53):
of that Thursday night game in Cincinnati. And they had
to do that because they had to give inventory to
these networks. That is the reason, very quietly behind the
whole reseeding thing.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, that's what and that's kind of with that thought
when I said we make it like one conference that
way the seeding and at this point in my mind,
you're having eight teams in the players, so yeah, that
everybody plays the same schedule with the exception of three games.
So everybody's schedule fifteen games are going to be the
identical on everybody's schedule, So it really is kind of

(43:28):
an equitable way to do it. You have obviously the
variance of yes, right now Baltimore, Cincy, Pittsburgh's tougher than
being Jacksonville, Tennessee in the you know, if you're the
Houston Texans. But and that way, I think you also
have the likelihood of being able to find games with
playoff implications because everybody's playing everybody and it's so locked

(43:48):
in that these games matter basically to every game is
gonna matter a lot more if you're playing only in
your conference, I think, especially towards the end, because you're
trying to fight for those eight seeds, like sixteen teams
for eight playoff spots of likelihoodies, you're gonna have a
lot of teams that are looking playoffs, are competing. You're
gonna have five or six games and you can probably
pick from each weekend.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah, And and they need the inventory. They need good
games late in the season. They need Look, we week eighteen,
the Browns played in Baltimore, right it was the ESPN doubleheader.
They put the two AFC North games on Saturday on ESPN.
We played the early game in Baltimore than the Steelers
in the Bank. Gals played the late game. Steelers and Bengals.
Obviously we're both in it. Ravens very much in it.

(44:32):
We were not in it, and we never thought. We
never thought when we walked out of the building after
the game against the Dolphins Week sixteen that we were
gonna play on Saturday. We played Sunday afternoon. That game
flex out a Sunday night. I never in a million
years did you think we were gonna play Saturday afternoon. No,

(44:52):
we got the Saturday afternoon game because they figured this
is the best that we could give ESPN. We'll just
put the whole AFC No North on. It means something
for the Ravens. The late game definitely means something. They
had listen the NFL Network triple header. I think it
was the Week fifteen triple header. They waited to the
very last possible hour to figure out which games they

(45:17):
were gonna do because they couldn't come up with games
necessarily that were TV worthy. So the league is legitimately concerned.
Was last year about finding competitive games in December to
make the networks happy, And to me that is why
we will get to receiving.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And again to that point, I kind of like, even
though I think it would be awful, I for example,
you know, not playing the Niners or the Cowboys or
anything like that. You're gonna have where you have both
conferences always playing each other. I just think there'd be
more compelling games late in the season for them to
pick because you're not gonna end up with those interconference
games that are not as where you have two teams
in from OPS conferences, they're just completely out of it.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I also love the interconference games. Like, look at
our home schedule, it's on the Lions are coming to town.
It's it elected, the Lions are coming to town. I
like the Bears are coming to town.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
How about this?

Speaker 2 (46:14):
The Vikings will not play the next time the Vikings,
And of course we could match up with one of
the like the weird one off matchups, but like, the
Vikings will have gone from two thousand and nine to
two thousand and thirty three without.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Playing in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
That's absurd because seventeen we went to England to play them,
and now we're playing them in England again in twenty five.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Well, We got breaking news, by the way, about a
team we're playing this year.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Our good hit.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Tom Pella serot NFL Network reporting that the Eagles are
about to trade Bryce Huff, who is not at their
OTAs and told him to stay home after that one
year bus last year, to the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Ooh with reunited with Robert Salah because wasn't he really
good with the Jets?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Was Yep? Bryce hoff is going to get traded to
the forty nine ers, according to Tom PELLISERA.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Not by the way, when you said when you said
Eagles at first, For some reason in the back of
my mind, somehow how he's gonna pluck Kyle Pitts out
of Atlanta and he's gonna end up being what he
was supposed to be in in Philly.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Maybe, But then do you move Dallas Goddard after he
redoes his deal at that point.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
That it's hard to rely on him. How many games
has he missed? I mean missed his games every year.
And I know this from Fantasy, know it very well.
I'm a big Dallas Godter guy, but he's just he's
not He doesn't play enough.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Mid round pick mid round pick for Huff. H Bryce huff.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yes, sir, all right, how about that? So they get
a little a little pass rushing.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
So you think the domestic neutral thing just to go
back to that real quick, that'll never happen.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
That's something.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
One time I hosted a show with Ross Hucker on
Serious XM NFL Radio, and this was something that he
and I were talking about, and he was like, big it,
and I thought it was I thought it sounded very cool.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
It's an interesting idea. I would never say never. The
NFL is always looking for new ten pole things, new
things that they can make standalone events. That to me
is cool. I think you would run into the issue
of can you find new places to do it every year?
Obviously there one hundred and thirty one hundred and thirty

(48:27):
plus FBS stadiums out there. I would only say a
handful are truly buildings you want to put NFL games
in the amount of infrastructure. Not to suggest that big
ten or SEC football doesn't have major television, major production infrastructure,
they do, but the amount of the suites, the TV
production stuff the NFL is a very high standard. It

(48:49):
is very picky as to what kind of buildings they
want to go into. I would never say never, but
I kind of like the idea.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
I think it'd be intro.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I think it would be an interesting thing, like it
would be I don't know, I know it's like the
Houston trying to think of like geographically, like there's just
there could be some fun. There should be some fun venues.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
I think it would be. I think that would be it, and.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Just an it gives it a different look, you know,
because I think eventually we're going to get to the
point where not cookie cutter, but you're gonna have a
lot of different looking domes but that are still very
much domes and you get some of those college bowls.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
I think would be it would be a cool thing
to get in there. So anyway, that's a long way.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
We got a little bit sidetracked, but that's the beauty
of it, that's the beauty of radio.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
We're having a great time.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
So when we come back, we're going to kick off
our number two with a look at the road trips.
And since we were talking about that, our favorite road
trip destinations on this year's schedule if you were going
and then where we would say if we've got a
place where we would say to go ahead and eat
in those cities. So that's coming up in hour number
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All right, we're talking and road trips with one of
the great travelers on this planet, Cillion, what's your what's

(51:05):
your country count at?

Speaker 4 (51:08):
How many countries have you visited on planet Earth?

Speaker 3 (51:11):
I don't know. I honestly don't know. I have to
count all.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Right, What is your you wited bucket list events? What
are like your top your next three bucket list countries
to visit?

Speaker 3 (51:23):
My plan right now is to go climb Mount Fuji
in July, right before training camp. But I've been to Japan,
so it would be the first time in a long time.
Countries I want to go to country, I want to
go to the I want to go to Egypt. I
want to see the Pyramids. I've never done that, so
that's my list. That is high on my list that

(51:44):
I would say is the big one. I've never been
to Singapore. I've never been to China. I would love
to go to Seoul, South Korea. Those are all on
my list. I've ever been to Croatia, so there's baby, buddy,
you got to go to Croatia. That is on my list.

(52:07):
And I've never been to Greece, so I need to
check those two boxes. Definitely.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, I've got places I really want to go that
I've never been Australia.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I've never been there too. Okay, so Australia, Yes.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
I really got to get see my boy Dabo out there.
I want to go to Columbia.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I've been to Colombia.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
I want to go to Columbia. I want to go
on the Amazon, and I want to go to Rio.
I want to see Brazil. So you want to do
Brazil for the Amazon.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Brazil Rio, but I think Brazil. I could do the
Amazon there.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yes, I've never been to Brazil either, so that that
is on my list as well. I've been to South
America a whole bunch, but I've never actually been to Brazil.
So have you been to see I want to do
my seven continents? Is my So? Yeah, I I need
to get to Australia and I need to I've been
to Patagonia before. I would need to do another hiking
trip in Patagonia where this time I actually go to Antarctica.

(53:04):
So I want to check the box of my seven continents.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I have five as We have a good friend named
Gary who looks like Larry David, so we call him
Gary David. And he just did a cruise to Antarctica
and had like.

Speaker 4 (53:14):
The best time.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah, so I need to do that.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah, I got Southeast Asia, Thailand, China, Japan, all of it.
That's definitely on my list. Egypt, same with you at
the Pyramids and the Sphinx.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
And then Greece.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I've been all around it, been all around Greece, but
never to Greece. I also, for some reason, really want
to go to Prague. I don't know why, but I
really want to go to Prague.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
I like prag School. I'd go back. Yeah. Yeah, it's
real touristy downtown. But I mean so is half half
of Western or for that matter, Eastern Europe downtown. Yeah,
you know, same thing.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Of course, I also think I'd really like to go
to the Scandinavian countries and see the fjords.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
I've been to Norway, I've seen the fjords. I have
not done Sweden or Finland, but Norway. You should definitely do.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Definitely, I'm maddiot. You know the thing that's going to
be the hard part. I told I told Cale, I said,
I don't. Even though we're having a little zogs here,
we still have to we have a lot of traveling
we need to do. We're reaching the point in our life,
where like you're supposed to do your traveling, so we
still need to do a lot of traveling.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
We'll have to take them. He might be a world.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
League built in babysitters and bow or gibbe.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Give peepa gibbe, you know on his desk. Now he's
got a picture of his grandchild Pepa. So yeah, he
would be Give them another one, give him, let them
hang out together.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
All right.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
We're gonna go through now the Browns road trips, and
we're gonna go if we have recommendations. I don't have
a recommendation for every city, to be honest, but most
of them I do for.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
A restauranting the preseason as well.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
So that would be Charlotte. It's not on our list,
but Charlotte and Philly.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I don't care what everyone doing.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Yes, ask Yeah, that's fine, that's fine. All right, So
we'll let's start. We'll go city by city restaurant. Then
we'll do like our top three if we were going
to if we're gonna do it for for an actual trip.
All right, So Charlotte, you got a favorite restaurant, Charlotte
I don't like.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Honestly, you didn't even think of one when I was
down there, Steve Smith would take me to a restaurant
or whatever. I can't even begin to think of a
best restaurant in Charlotte, can you.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Yeah, I'll go Fahrenheit, our local chef Roco Roco Whalen.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I've been to Fahrenheit down there up on the roof. Okay,
So there's my answer, fam, Fahrenheit Charlotte done.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Period, There we go. That's where we'll go. Fahrenheit for sure.
There all right? Philadelphia, great food town.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Okay, I bet you do. Zahav that's the like the
Israeli place.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
It's an Israeli restaurant that's almost impossible to get into.
But a couple of years ago, on a tn F game,
the Hoff Joe Thomas, who are truly the great Colleen
wolf Is from Philadelphi. Colleen hooked it up and we
had like a table for twenty had the entire crew
like a plus gold star for Colleen on that trip
and asked Joe about that one. They basically brought the

(56:13):
entire kitchen. We never touched the menu, and it was
one of the better meals I've had in a long, long,
long long time. Zahab is where we're going matter Pac.
I'm gonna I thought of it this afternoon or this morning.
We need to figure it out to get there for
training camp when we're there this summer.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
So we've got two places we have to go then
zahab is one which I did not eat at, and
then one that I probably have eaten at that you
may not have eaten at Kalaia.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
No, what's that?

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Oh man?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
So the chef is the twenty twenty three James Beard
Award winner for Best Chef mid Atlantic. It is tie.
It is the It's one of the best meals I've
ever had in my life. So we were there last time.
It was me Haff and Chris Rose and.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
Nobody. You couldn't get in. You couldn't get in for months.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
And Haf is only he can makes one phone call boom,
guess what we have a we have a table for three.
They had some of the coolest like I don't even
know what some of the stuff was that we were.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Eating, like these.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
They had black rice cakes that had this delicious goo inside.
It's k A l.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
A y a. It was.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
It's still we talked about it this day. It was
one of the best meals we've had and so unique,
such a unique meal, So I would definitely want to
go back there.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Yes, So those are okay, so we've got there.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
We we need we need to add this criteria. Is
it a restaurant that Gibbe would eat at?

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Gibbe's not it?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
No, no, no, no no. What's the place that they
say of the Primante Brothers, like he would eat at
Permanty Brothers. If we were gonna do a Pittsburgh one,
That's where Gibbe would eat.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Gibbe likes now he does like every now and then.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
He likes to get fired up for a little fine
dining and get all get all dressed up. But that's
Gibbe's more comfortable eating. I would say he likes the
bar food, which there can be a great there can
be James Beard barfood.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I mean, there's all kinds of guns.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Stud I'm finally it doesn't have to be James Beard food.
By the way, It's no, it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
But I'm talking this place, that place that Kala was. Man,
it was good. Now I will like I want to
go back badly.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Okay, all right, right, so we got the preseason in
season Baltimore, So Baltimore has got to.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Got a lot of good restaurants. I prefer if you're
in Baltimore and it is like it's not necessarily we're
there early in the year, so it's kind of still
soft shell season. We're going to be there in September.
So I say, let's go to Jimmy's. Jimmy's Seafood, which
is probably about a ten minute drive from where we
normally say, or at least where we stayed last year

(58:50):
in Baltimore, where most teams stay. It's legendary. They love
their athletes, they love their sports teams. You walk in there,
it's like three levels. Look, they do a great job marketing,
but they love their sports. They'll take care of us.
You get the crabs like they dump the crabs out
on the table. There are locals that may argue that
there are better places than Jimmy's, but they won't argue

(59:11):
that Jimmy's is one of the best. So we're going
to Jimmy's and you're gonna get soft shells. If you
don't like soft shells, you're gonna get like amazing seafood,
and you're gonna stuff your face the night before the game.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
So here's the only pushback I'll give on that is
that typically, or at least it has been for the
last five years, Jimmy's is our postgame meal as we
bore the plane. And let me tell you something, those
crab cakes are insane. Just it's pure crab lump delicio.

(59:46):
Their food is I love.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
I've never actually eaten dinner there, but I've eaten it
probably many many times after a game, which is it
is a delight.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
It is a treat. But that's very good. I love
the place we went last year. That's just for whatever reason,
that place is like I know, it has nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
To do or the culture of Zoomi. I just love it.
I love a Zoomi.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
First time I was ever on the road there that's
where I was taken. And that's just like my Baltimore spot.
I go there all the time. Gibbets has eaten there
with the Undersecretary of the Navy Thomas Moudley and his
lovely wife Robin.

Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
We've eaten at a Zoomie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
I've eaten at a Zumi a great many times with
a great many people, including yourself, And I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
At Detroit not really a recommended road. Chip it's a game,
honestly for me that if I can drive in the
morning of I will.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I don't recall having a great meal in Detroit. I'm
sure I have.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Honestly, I have spent one night in downtown Detroit in
the last fifteen years. Whenever I would go there for
the network been a long time, you would I'd get
there on a training camp tour at like midnight. Everything
would be closed, or we would stay out in Allen
Park by their facility, which is closer to the airport
than it is to downtown. I when I was there

(01:01:04):
a couple of years ago, it was like on a
Monday night and every single notable restaurant downtown was closed.
I think I might have gotten like Jimmy John's or
something instead. So I do not have a legitimate restaurant
recommendation for you in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Maybe i'd go to Mom's Spaghetti for eminem.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Is that actually a place or is that just a Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
I think it's a walk and I think you can.
I do think you can walk into it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
I think it's like, I don't think it's like a
sit down eminem Moms Spaghetti.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Let's see home sauce merch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
There used to be a place you could walk into.
It was over by the uh by the hockey arena.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
America Park actually like America Okay, so it still exists.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Yeah, it says uh, it says open. So it says
it still exists. All right, there you go, get for
you when we're there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
My first time on the sidelines on the road was
in Detroit back in two thousand and fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
All right, did we win?

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I just want to say so? Why not? There's some
John football action?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Go? Uh? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
London, England, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
I got one. It's a Thai restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Okay, It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
It's one of the better meals I've had in a
long long time. I ate there last year when I
was in London. It's in Soho. It's called Kiln k
I l n Kiln. It is not big. You could
sit at the counter. You need a reservation. They have
some tables. It will blow you will wait Kiln ki

(01:03:02):
l n. We are going in London.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Love that all right? I was gonna say sumosan twiga.
Have you ever heard of that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
All right, it's in knights Bridge, the menu.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
It is so unique and I ate there in twenty
seventeen at the recommendation of somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Uh, it's in knights Bridge. It is. The menu is
two pages.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
The left page is like the best Italian restaurant you've
ever been in, and then the right page is sushi
and Japanese.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
It is so unique.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
I don't even really understand it now. What's very wild
about it is you have this a la carte menu,
so you can get some Italian stuff, get some Japanese stuff,
and then there's a floor that's got a DJ and
basically it just turns into a club.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
As you're eating this heard.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Of it an Italian Japanese restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
It's a cool place.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
The menu, the food was outstanding, as I'm sure is
the case with many things in London, not cheap, and
then it turns into a full on, like full on club.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
And then you're popping bottles on top of a table.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah, it's it was so unique because it's white tablecloth
until it's a club. But their sushi was great, some
of the Japanese kind of dishes were awesome, and it
was just it was a very it was very unique.
It's unlike any place I've ever eaten before or since.

(01:04:40):
So they have, like, like I said, literally everything that
you could want from sushi on one side, and then
they've got all these unbelievable you know, they have Italian Maine.
You could get a Taglioni lobster, you can get arabiada
black truffle ravioli, a tomahawk steak, veal milanaise, and then
you can also be eating like buy a four Japanese

(01:05:01):
wag you or wagu Sando sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
It's just craziness.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
We're going to be there, Like when are we going
to London? Do we know yet?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I think this is I don't know this for sure.
This is me just speculating based on what I think
I would know. I think we're gonna red eye it
out Wednesday, get in Thursday morning, got it, and then
we'd fly home after the game Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
That's my that's just that's a guest that those aren't
scoring Friday, Saturday, three nights, three nights. Yep. Done, beautiful, yeah, beautiful.
All right, we are on to Pittsbuke. That's a gibbet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Must have wrotten this rundown from Italy, I said Permanty brothers.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Other than that, I'm not I don't know. That's a
game I drive.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
I would do that. No, that that that's fine. I'm
trying to think there are better restaurants there. Certainly. I
actually went to a sushi place there last year by myself.
You weren't there yet. You drove in mourning of I drive.

Speaker 4 (01:05:59):
Morning of for Pitts. I don't spend any time in that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Gibbey and Fela all went to an Irish pu I
met them later. Okay, I will say though, one of
the reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I don't eat the night before so I can come
in and have the greatest nachos in the history of
the world. You know, obviously in the in the Pittsburgh
Steelers press box, as Gibbet has dubbed them to be
the best nachos in the world, which are just basically
a giant bag of tostitos rounds that are dropped dropped
into a self served thing and melted, just random regular

(01:06:32):
yellow nacho cheese. Far from the greatest nachos in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Before the overrated renegade.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Yes there you said it all right, New England. I
have to say Boston is domestically at my bucket list city.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
I you know, I've never been to Boston.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
You've never been in downtown Boston never? Seriously, Yeah, that's
like's got amazing restaurants. The problem is when's my number
one domestic Yeah, Boston bucket list. Now we'll be in
We'll probably be in probably where or you or you
stay in Foxboro. There's a there's a Mariana at the stadium.
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
We did not do that last time. Last time we
were there, we stayed it. So I was only there,
and this was two times ago. Because the last time
we were there, I had COVID, so I missed that
game winner we were blown out by the New England Patriots.
I missed that one, which was twenty one. I want

(01:07:31):
to say, yeah, twenty one. I was there in seventeen
and we stayed in Providence that time. But I don't
have a restaurant.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
I mean, can I say the dunkin Donuts at Patriots Place?

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Of course you can. Can we do that whatever you want?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Okay? Yeah, fine, let's go to the dunkin Donuts at
Patriots Place, right across the street from the TB twelve
where we used to be the TB twelve before it.
I don't think. I don't think there's a TV twelve
there anymore. Dude, I haven't been to a game, you know.
How about I've never been to a game in Foxboro.
I've been to training camp there a whole bunch. I've
never actually been to a game. No, I take it

(01:08:06):
back one once. I went to one game in Foxboro Thursday,
and I came a whole bunch of years ago. But
I didn't have dinner. I went into town to see it.
Did I go to a Red Sox game? I don't remember.
This is great radio here. I have no idea what
eating period. This is fantastic radio me neither. All Right,

(01:08:30):
New York City, this one you could have.

Speaker 4 (01:08:32):
There's the gajillion answers.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
There are so many good places to eat in New
York City.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
All Right, you go first.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I love just because it's nostalgic for me. Quality Meats
and Quality Italian, because that's when I used to work
in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
I was at fifty six and six. I was at
the Parker Meridian.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I could walk the Quality Meats, which was my favorite
place had. That's where I had a standing dinners with
you know Dan Patrick and then Quality Italian when they
opened that up, we would go there. I had some
of my best memories there, became very good friends with
the the general manager, and that was like that was
my spot.

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Like I love love going there, love.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
It, and I would I would totally be down for that.
I like that as well. I am even though I
we have great sushi in La, I'm a sucker for
sushi in New York. So I would like say, Yesuda
or something like that, they're better than Yo Suda. I
would say something like that, You're not gonna go wrong
with any of the steakhouses. I mean, do you want

(01:09:31):
something crazy?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I mean, like, so, the one place that I'd want
to go that I've never eaten at is and I
would love to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Is a place called Huso h U s O.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
And that is operated and I think it's sushi operated
by Buddha Lowe, who won Top Chef than One Top Chef.
Also he's like my Cayle and I love Top Chef.
He's the best I've ever seen on it by forever
and this is his this is his restaurant.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Like, I would love to eat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
There because he's I'm also down at any David. I'm
also down for any David Chang restaurant in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Okay, this is like an eight course tasting many this
would have to be. It would be bonker stuff like
it would be nuts Buddha's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Guy's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
He won Top Chef nineteen and then came back and
won Top Chef World All Stars, which were all Top
Chef winners.

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
He's the best. He's the best I've ever seen on
the show by a mile. That's my guy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
That's New York Chicago. I love Hugos. I can't go.
I like I go to Chicago. I want to go
to Hugos.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
It's the best.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
So you're talking Hugo's Frog Bar right next to right downtown, Yes,
right by Gibson's. I'm totally down for that. I'd be
down for Gibson's too, just for the legendary. There are
better steaks in Chicago than Gibson's. But there is something
about the old school walk into the bar, get a drinking,
Gibson sit at the cat like. There is something about
that look. I lived there in the nineties for four years,

(01:11:08):
right out of college. Some of the best friend years
of my life. The restaurants have changed considerably since then,
but Hugos and Gibson's are still both there. I'm also
down if you like Top Chef for Girl and the Goat.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Ooh yeah, that's a good pool. Never in there, so
I would definitely be open to that. All right, you
should go there too, Okay, all right, that's it. And
then last one Cincinnati. And you know, I'm gonna say
Jeff Rubies, because love the guy, love the place. But
what's your what's your place that you wanted us to

(01:11:41):
go to last year that we should go to this
year if the opportunity presents itself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Oh oh, hold on, hold on, there's Italian Place. There's
what's the Italian restaurant? Italian Downtown Cincinnati is soo so
that's what you said. You walk downstairs. It's in a
base and it's downtown. It's only a couple of blocks,
like two blocks from the original Jeff Ruby, it is

(01:12:06):
the best Italian in Cincinnati. I think Cincinnati is kind
of an underrated restaurant town. I like Jeff Rubies, and
I like the precinct where we eight last year as well.
I think good steakhouses. I've said this before, and it's
not a shot at Jeff Ruby. I think good steakhouses
are truly hard to distinguish themselves. They're all kind of
there's like a top level that are all really good,
but they're all kind of the same. Obviously, sides and

(01:12:26):
other things they set them apart. But I think once
you get to a top level steakhouse, they're all kind
of the same. Either you want a steak or you
don't want a steak that night, right, Yeah, and you're
more of a steak guy than I am. I enjoy
my steak. I just have to pick and choose a
little bit, right. I am down for Jeff Rubies. I
will not eat Skyline chili. I will not eat anything
that people in Cincinnati claim is food and actually is

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dog food. I don't want soggy spaghetti with chili on
top of it. It is garbage. It is not It
is not a food.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
You know what I love is that your vitriol for
AFC North Rivals is really focused on Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.
You don't really have like you still can enjoy Baltimore,
even though that one probably hurts the most in some ways.
But is it because it wasn't a part of your youth,
is it because it wasn't part.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Of your No, no, no, yes and no no no. Look,
I grew up down the road from Baltimore. I grew
up an hour away. Yeah, so I spent a lot
of time in Baltimore as a kid. We used to
go to Oriole games all the time. There were no
national back then, so to see baseball we'd go to Baltimore.
I don't have any against the people of Baltimore. Yeah,
I can't. No, and before the old place, before Memorial Stadium,
world Stadium theory. I don't have anything against the people
of Baltimore. I don't think against the people in any

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of the three towns. Pittsburgh annoys me the most, Baltimore
the second. Cincinnati, but Baltimore's second. Cincinnati. Cincinnati, oh whatever.
I just can't stand. They're chili. It is not food,
it is not edible. It's not terrifying, purely terrifying.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Yeah, I'm with you. I am with you, all right.
So three roads figure out to me are harmless.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Yeah, Ravens fans are annoying Steeler fans. I could live without.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
So my road trip rankings would be obviously number one.
You got to London. If you can do that, go
to London. Two for me would be probably New York.
Three would if I was going to Boston. Boston would
be one if we were staying in Boston. But I
don't believe that we are shows be my top ones.

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Chicago's got to be on there, and then I like Baltimore.
I've never had a bad time in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
I never had.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
I don't mind Baltimore. Am I still bitter and angry? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Then Vegas, of course, Vegas, peer Vegas should be on there. Yeah,
of course you are.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Yeah, I spent Vegas is great. You spent too much
time or as much time in my life in Vegas
as the former voice of the Las Vegas Gladiators, whereas
there ten times a year I was very young. I
had a lot of good I had a blast, amazing times.
But like after five weekends and seven in Vegas, you
just can't take it anymore. Like Vegas will beat you

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down in a good way. Don't get me wrong, of course,
but it's a first world problem. You get to go
to Vegas too much, but it beats you down. And
I used to I used to like that plane is
descending from thirty five thousand feet. You come through the clouds,
you see Vegas, you see the strip, and you turn
into Vince Vaughn yelling Vegas right coming down the fifteen

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from La and swingers or going up to fifteen. But
now I look down out of the window, maybe because
I'm getting old, and I go Vegas. All right, survive
in advance. Once a year, I'm good. Once a year,
I'm good, and we will have a good time and
hopefully two tops, two nights tops. Hopefully this year there

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is no bogus holding call on an eighty to your
touchdown that should have counted. That changed the season, hopefully
there is none of that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
We could say it changed the course of Brown's history.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
It changed the course of Brown's history. I don't know
about that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
But I might say significant it was.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Indeed, it was a significant turning point in the season.
There's no doubt we agree on that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Yes, there were a couple of things that happen in
that game that were rather significant. All right, we will
be back. We're just having a good time. We got
the mail bag. We got the mailbag, Brock, do we
have the mailbag?

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
No? Well, mail bag nobody asked questions.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Come on, if you want people to ask your questions,
we'll do a mail bag.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
We'll get a mailbag, but we also have plenty of
things to do. We'll get your thoughts on the Browns
roster and quarterback room as well, Siciliano, so get ready
for that. That's all coming up when we returned here
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Trust on June the twelfth. It's a Night Out by
the Lake twenty twenty five. Last year raised I think
over one hundred thousand dollars. There's live auction, A bunch
of the Browns players will be there, all the rookies
will be there, Coach will be there. It's an amazing,
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to uplift under resourced youth, perfectly compliments on their own
mission obviously of the Keepers Foundation Coaches Foundation. The evening's
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go to Keepers twenty five dot give smart dot com.
That's Keepers twenty five dot give smart dot com. Great event,
great cause, and if you're a Browns fan, you have
an opportunity to hobnob and mingle with everybody from the
top of the organization on down and the team the ross.
It's it's an awesome event and excited to be a

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part of it again this year. All right, join that
by the play by play voice here Cleveland Browns Andrew Siciliano,
I've got questions for you, and I'm sure you've got
answers you ready, that's debatable. Let's go what does the
team need this year in order to improve upon last year?

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
What would they have to improve upon this year to
be better than last year? A couple things. Number one,
you got you got to score points. Eighteen point five
a game ain't going to cut it. And not to
go back to your weapons, weapons, weapons, meme.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
I think they've they've certainly reloaded. But it's got to
be health, and it's got to be better offensive efficiency,
and you got to move the football. You got to score.
I mean that that that goes without saying. But it's
more than just the offense. I think we're hyper focused
on the offense, obviously. Mason Graham, Carson Swesternger. The first
two picks of the draft were both defensive selections. You
have to be better across the board. You can't give
up all the explosives you gave last year. You can't.

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You can't give up chunk plays in the run game
like you had last year. You can't have mistackles on
the perimeter and in space like you had last year.
You have to be able to kick the football better
as well. Special teams have to be better, whether Stuston
Hopkins or coverage or return game, anything across the board.
There is not one area where you could look at
it and say, hey, hey, fix that, you're gonna be

(01:20:02):
a better team. They were picking second overall for a reason.
They had three wins for a reason. So there is
a lot to fix, but scoring points to go a
long way. Because I am comfortable in my belief that
the defense will bounce back. I think there are too
many pieces on this defense, assuming it stays healthy, which

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is always a big if, and keep your fingers crossed.
It's a game of attrition. This defense will be better.
You score more points, are gonna win more games. Period.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Bottom line, You've got to score. We went through it.
Scoring is the most sure path to the playoffs. Be
an elite scoring team. You're going to get to the playoffs.
All right, Which position room do you feel the best about?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Defensive line? Don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Defensive line?

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
I like our cornerback room still dens lmj AMers and
Greg Newsom.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
I like that room.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
I do as well. I think there's or depth. I mean, look,
I know tackle is a concern, and you get Mason Graham,
you get Malik Graham.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
I think Mike Hall is a stud.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Oh, I am I s same here. We both feel
the same way about Mike Hall. It's an issue of
when you get him back to full ailaboration on the
field and availability. But Mike Hall, Mason Graham, Elie Collins.
I like what you have in the middle right there.
I think the depth across the board with Alex Wright
back healthy, with Isaiah McGuire. Look, I know Isaiah McGuire

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didn't get the sacks last year, but if you're good,
if you look at his numbers, and I'm not just
trying to live in the whole PFF grade world, but
if you look at the way he played the run,
he's obviously played opposite Miles. If you look at Alex
Wright healthy, you get maguire there. If you get anything
out of Joe Tryan Tryanka, that resembles the first round
pick that he was five years ago. And I think

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opposite Miles he could eat a little bit. That's good
for him. I think he certainly has that ability. You
saw it at you Dub before the Bucks took him
in the first round. It's about waves, and the Eagles
did not invent the concept of sending waves of defensive
linemen at people. Jim Schwartz as his A team is
V team, He's talked about that forever. But the depth

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is there on the defensive line that I think they
can really tee off and eat this year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I agree with you one room that I would another
one that I think might be the strongest, even though
we really haven't seen them go. As the running back room,
I love the additions of Jokins and Samson to Jerome Ford.
I like that, and I stilluld the guy that I
look at every day out there. I'd still love to
bring him back as well. Number twenty four, what position
room do you think still needs the most improvement?

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
So this one's tricky. I think the obvious answer is
wide receiver.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
It's the obvious answer, yep. Deontay Johnson's a wild card.
I'm not going to besmirch the man personally, but I
I would not count on him because there are multiple
teams last year that could not count on him. Right
the Panthers, the Ravens. The Texans history of twenty twenty

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four has been written. It's about his story of twenty
twenty five. If somehow that pays dividends, those dividends could
be big. But you can't count on him. And I
liked what I saw from Cedric Tilmot last year. He
had that month window. Obviously, it began Week eight after

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Deshaun got injured and Jamis started and you beat the
Ravens and he had the two touchdowns. I wish we
could have seen him continue to ascend in December. Obviously,
the concussion happened and that didn't happen. But I think
the rest of the league is sleeping on him, and
I think the Browns have something there, but you need
to see it, and you need to see it for

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a full season. But wide receiver, to answer your question
would be that room agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
I got a couple questions for you when we come back.
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Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by
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Nathan Segura, alongside the play by play voice of Your
Cleveland Browns, Andrew Ciciliano. We're asking some questions about the
Browns roster, and we're going to go through it as well.
Right now, let's go ahead and talk about this. Are
there any players in free agency that you think the

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Browns should go out and get at this point?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Oh boy, it's a good question. I don't look, when
you signed the two veteran safeties, obviously that was a
concern we had talked about Kasey and Jenkins. You fill
that in to say there's no glaring need I don't
think is accurate. We just talked about the wide receiver room.
I know people have like kicked the idea of Keenan
Allen around. I don't know that that is an option

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you need or want right now. I say, at this point,
you stand pat. There really aren't going to be any
free agent moves of note for any of the thirty
two between now and the start of training camp. Aaron
Rodgers is still out there. Nick Chubb is still out there.
So if you want, my answer would be Nick Chubb.
I just don't know that that's going to happen. My

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gut tells me Nick Chubb would fill kind of like
the Kareem Hunt roll this year, like in case of emergency,
if there is an injury in the backfield, he is
the first call. For Nick's sake, I hope he gets
a call before then and somebody gives him a good offer.
It is tough out there for a veteran running back.
People thought that because Derek Henry got paid last year
and Josh Jacobs got some money and got paid, that

(01:26:01):
therefore all veteran running backs are gonna get paid. Now, No,
that's not how it works. Those were anomaly contracts for
rare players, I think, and is still go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
And it happened in a year where nobody was high
on the running backs in the draft, whereas this year.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
This year loaded was Loaded was one of the better
running back classes we've seen in the last decade, and
that factors in as well. I'd love to see Nick
Chubb back, so answer your question, he would be that
one guy. I just don't know that it works right now.
Maybe there's a situation and I don't want injuries where
it does work in a few months, but that would

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be the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Yeah, I certainly would want Nick Chubb back as well.
Were there any of the Browns off season moves that
you were like, yeah, that was What's your favorite move
the Browns made this offseason?

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
My favorite move? I'm going to repeat the question as
I think it through. My favorite move the Browns made
this off season, I'm gonna say the drafting of the
two rookie running backs. I'm going to tie it all
together with Nick Schubb there, and I think when when
Joe Flack was on the podium Wednesday, he said the
same thing about Yeah, I see some explosiveness there. I

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think those two guys will fundamentally change the offense. I'm
also gonna can I go coaching move? I think bringing
in Mike Bloomgren as the old line coach and to
see how he taught like to Immediately, I got a
couple of calls from people around the league that were like, Hey,
this is going to work. You watch this is going
to work. That to me was the under the radar

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but already, yeah, you get back get back to what worked.
You know, I think Stanford ran power eighteen times in
a row back in those days. And I'm not suggesting
that in this modern era of you need to push
the ball down the field, you need to score points,

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that that is necessarily the way that you need to
win every week. But if you go back to Kevin's
first year in twenty twenty, when he was miked up
for NFL films and he turned to AVP late in
a game in September, I think against the Bengals, and
he said, you know how much I believe it. He
belie Billy love running the ball at people when they

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know you're going to run and they can't stop it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
I think the Mike Bloomgren O line higher is the
one that I very quietly pumped my fist for.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
I like that one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
I like Mike Bloomgren. I was going to say the
things that I like the most. Number one was the
trade to go from two to five and get quin
Shawn Judkins and a future first to move down three
spots and you still got Mason Graham out of it.
I love that move. I like the promotion of Tommy
Reeste offensive coordinator. I think there are a lot of
people that in this building especially that are very excited

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about that move. So like that one a great deal
as well. Who are some sleepers that you're excited to
see in training camp? And they don't have to be
like sleeper on my maraditional sense, but just some people
that you know, maybe aren't automatic surefire starters, or maybe
people that are penciled in to be starters, but you're
really excited to see.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Yeah, I mentioned Joe Tryon Shreyanka before. I think he's won.
I think Malie Collins is one as well. I'm gonna
go back to the D line. I would love to
see Joemari Thrash get a little run. I know you
and I talked about him off the air. Jerome Baker actually,
that was one who I wanted the Browns to get

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a year ago. I think Jerome Baker can still move,
and I know he's got a he's got a nose
for the football. I think Jerome Baker back at home.
I think he's gonna surprise some people this year.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Yep, I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Some of the guys I wrote down, Uh, Mike Hall,
I know he's not a sleeper, but I'm very excited
to see my call and hopefully get a full season
out of him. Carson Sweeshinger, I think is out of necessity,
going to have to play a lot. Now you draft
him thirty third, so he's not a sleeper per se.
But you know, guys started one year in college and

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now you're expecting him, I think, to take on a
big role. You mentioned Jamari Thrash. Somebody in that receiver
room's got to step up. And then the guy that
I've been very impressed with and I really think has
a chance to be a very good role player. Not
a megastar in his first year, but a very good
role player is Harold Fannin. I think Fannin, Oh, yeah,
that's exactly what they want.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Yeah, that's an obvious thrown one more you can. I
thought he played well in December when he got a shot,
especially in Cincinnati. Back at home. Juwan Briggs made some
plays last year.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
Yeah, he certainly did, you know. And he is a big,
brong guy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Jacquxa's there, the Browns d line coach. At one point
last year when we were getting ready to play the Chargers.
Remember the Chargers have Scott Mattlocke, the former Boise State
defensive tackle who's playing fullback last year kind of back
and forth. He was a two way guy before Travis Hunter.
Scott Matlock was playing both ways last year all year
for the Chargers. And I asked Shack, Hey, who's the
guy in your room that could do that? And he

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said Jawan Briggs. Before Jawan Briggs ever got elevated and
ever got in a game. He's got something.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
There, Juwan Briggs. Write that one down. That was a
good nugget there from Andrew Siciliano. All right, so much
more to come as we wrap it up here on
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Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
All Right, wrapping it up here on a Friday. I
hope you all have a great weekend. Andrew, as always,
it was a pleasure having today. Yeah. By the way,
I'll be seeing in about Actually I probably won't see
for a few days after that, but you'll be in
town for Mini camp in ten days. The day the
birthdate of little Zogs, You'll be arriving in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
Yeah, buddy, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
Should show live from the hospital.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
Let's go live from the hospital, June ninth. Let's go.
Maybe we'll do it all right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
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