July 28, 2025 • 38 mins
On the first day in pads at Training Camp 2025, hear from Browns HC Kevin Stefanski, WR Coach Chad O'Shea, CB Coach Brandon Lynch, OL Coach Mike Bloomgren, and TE David Njoku.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to another training camp edition of the From the
Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Kleura. Today was the first day
in pads for the Cleveland Browns in Borea. Got to
see a little contact today. On this episode, you'll hear
from head coach Kevin Stefanski, wide receivers coach Chad O'Shea,
offensive line coach Mike Bloomgren, cornerbacks coach Brandon Lynch, and
tight end David Najoku. Up first, the head coach of
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your Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski, previewed the first day in
pads a training camp.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, exciting day for the organization. We have Rainbow Day
out here. You know, University Hospitals is an amazing partner
with us and the things that they're doing in the
community is incredible. So we have some patients out here
from pediatric that are going to get to watch practice
and meet our players.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But it's a special relationship. I'm fortunate. As you can see.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My sweet kicks I got on here designed by Jordan Cunningham,
who I just met over here. She's a patient and
she designed some sneakers for me for today. So I'm
very much obliged, but Uh, really cool day for the organization.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But with that, I'll take any.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Questions to any why did they.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Care for it happened?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Uh at the end of practice there a couple of
days ago, felt something.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So we'll just treat it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, for any player, you know, you're disappointed when
you can't be out there with any injury. But uh,
he'll be fine, he'll rehab, he'll get back out very quickly.
I don't have a timeline we're and you know with
something like this, Uh, we'll see how it goes. But
his mindset, my mindset will just go day to day.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Did you have a ming, Yes, he didn't care or anything.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm not gonna get into specifics on the injuries other
than to tell you he's a he's gonna do everything
in his power to get back a SAP.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
What does it mean to you? Rotation?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, obviously everybody will get a little bit more because
of how you're going to distribute those reps.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Are we gonna see the team periods break down again or.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Is it more?
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Are they gonna break on a different fields again?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, we're not gonna two spot. The plan was
just a two spot in the first four days of camp.
We two spotted in the off season quite a bit,
so at this point we were not playing on doing
more that.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Jerome is getting extremely close. I saw him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
He'll be out here, not a he'll be a participant,
but in a limited capacity.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Kevin, I know you said there might not be changes
to the rotation anyway, but did you know ahead of time, Like,
did you know earlier enough that you didn't really have
to think about how your four man rotation.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Would have changed.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I meant knew coming off the practice field, and
then knew the severity of it obviously as we talked
through it. That he's gonna miss today and maybe a
couple of days. But we'll re evaluate it after this block,
if you will. And but you know, again, disappointed for Kenny,
but he's he's here, he's getting better, and we'll see
when he's back out there.
Speaker 8 (02:52):
He'd get so many of the first team reps. Do
those I'll go to Joe, Do you buy him by
two or three?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Or it really depends on the period and what we're
trying to get accomplished in there, But Joe would get
the majority of them.
Speaker 9 (03:03):
And how about how.
Speaker 10 (03:04):
Does this then trickle down to Dylan. Does it mean
a lot more of work with the ones for Dylan
and maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Some teams for sure?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
A little bit of both, Mary Kay, I think it's
really dependent on the period, what we're trying to accomplish
in that period, and just moving these guys around, giving
them some more exposure.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Kevin to that in Dylan had seemed to get a
little bit more work with the ones the last couple
of days last week.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
What have you?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
What did you see specifically in those periods out of
him and and what was sort of the was it
just to kind of throw him in there with him
and kind of see how he handled this.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think all these guys have to learn from every
single rep, whether they're in there or not. I think
that's something we've talked about at length, and I've talked
with you guys about that. Uh And I thought Dylan
did a nice job with the reps that he had.
There was some some really good moments and then some
moments that are great teaching moments. I think that's so
much of where we are in training camp is making
sure that as as a mistake is made, we'll make
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the same mistake again.
Speaker 11 (04:01):
What's your philosophy this year on padded practices, how intense
will you.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Get hit much?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah? Once the pads go on, Tony, they're on today.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh, we'll take a day off tomorrow, put them back
on on Wednesday. But uh, really the the you still
need to practice safely. So we'll thud the runners, meaning
you'll will fit up the runners. We won't tackle to
the ground in this practice. Uh, but it is important
that when you get the pads on offense defense, specially teams,
you have to you have to get acclimated to your pads,
as you know, quarterbacks throwing in shoulder pads, people catching shoulder.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Pads, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But by the same token, while yes it's physical, we
don't want a bunch of guys on the ground, that's
not the the intention of putting the pads on. It's
still to use our technique and still to uh be
smart when it's browns versus browns.
Speaker 12 (04:50):
Would you like.
Speaker 13 (04:51):
Kenny aligns were really kind of coming down.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
And showcasing his mobility a little bit. I thought he
had a nicer first four days.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What were your thoughts on how Yeah, I thought Kenny
had a strong block there like like you mentioned Mary
Kay uh did use his mobility a couple of times
there and was and is a fast player.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He can really run.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So uh, we'll make sure that he heals up nice
and nice and fast.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And then get him back out there. But I thought
he had a good.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Four days sits on the first day of National It's
not gonna ramp up for today.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Specifically, what I want been from the com well.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think kind of like we were saying, you know,
we want the players to get comfortable in their paths.
There is an element of literally just throwing and catching
which you're not even you're not allowed to do, and
your shoulder pads previous to now, so getting used to it,
and then then the.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Physicality will ramp up.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I mean it's it's we're not in those soft shells anymore,
so you'll hear it a little bit more, the physicality
of it. But that's all part of training camp that's
been going on for a pretty long time.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Were waiting for full paths to do in your live.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Uh No, not not waiting per se. We we did
some field goal work the other day.
Speaker 12 (06:03):
Kept m love him, want not we're just killing him.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Uh. We did both sides.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean we had we had field goal on field
goal block as part of Kevin David.
Speaker 14 (06:12):
Njok who told us today that he never really felt
healthy after Week one last year. So what I guess
how how impressive was it that he kept kind of
going out there and kept fighting to be out there.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And what do you expect out of a.
Speaker 12 (06:22):
Healthy Najoeku this year?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think we've all seen what Dave can do when
he's healthy, and I and you're right, I don't think
he was uh was healthy last season. So he's feeling
good now. Uh he w w I when he's himself
and and feeling like himself. He's a huge part of
what we do, not only offensively, but just as a
football team, and and his energy is certainly felt throughout
this building. So UH excited for him to to be healthy.
Speaker 12 (06:47):
Argue that I think.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Kenny ll get back in time to be a key
member of his format. Yeah, I'm confident Kenny's gonna attack
his rehab.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Like we talked about Mary kay this the evaluation on
these guys is all encompassing, and it goes back through
the spring, it goes to what they've put on tape already.
As as football players. So I know he wants to
be out there, but he's still very very much involved.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Said people will go to be Yes.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Did you have any update on when when Shawn Trunks
couldn't rejoin the team.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't have an update.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Mike Woods and Kevin Jenkins?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Are they still out?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Mike is out, Tevin is getting close and it looked
like same idea will be out but.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Working hard up Next, wide receivers coach Chad O'sha discussed
Jerry Judy's growth as a leader in the locker room.
Speaker 15 (07:37):
And then you said the job there's in change his
playing quarterback, but Jerry's breakout a year last year, much
of that was a reminder that sometimes receiver production can
be environment dependent as well.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean I agree, Like you know, Jerry did
a great job of coming in here and really ignoring
any noise that was out there, noise right there. So
he did a tremendous job of ignoring the noise and
really just focusing and then on what we wanted him
to do to be successful in that play. He Jerry's
very coachable. You know a lot of these guys you think,
like guys, ask me, uh, are these guys coachable. We
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have a coachable group and it starts with Jerry Judy.
So if he accepts coaching and works hard, good things
are gonna happen.
Speaker 15 (08:14):
Do you think the general notion that receivers are mercurial
or emotional or something like that.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
What do you think of that general You know, I'll
say I'm very fortunate right now with the Cleveland Browns receivers.
We have a great group. You know, we have a
group that is just unselfish. I enjoy coaching those guys.
I come in the room every day in in a
great mood because the group I'm gonna stand in front
of is just tremendous in terms of their work, ethic,
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their humility. Jerry is at the front helping the younger
guys out. But it's just been a lot of fun
to see that group in the chemistry we have in
the room. Did you mention receivers, Yeah, Luke, as similar
to our other three rookie receivers we have, is done
a great job of learning the offense of coming into
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camp in great condition. You know, we say your job
here is to get open and catch the ball, and
he has certainly put that on tape and has been
displayed on the field so far. He's got a unique
skill set to separate versus tight man coverage, particularly in
the slot alignment. So we're really excited, as we are
a lot of our players right now because it's such
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an exciting time to see these guys develop and improve.
Luke has done a great job of working hard but
certainly having a long way to go, just like all
of our players, to include Jerry Judy, you know, we
have a long way to go. They acknowledge that and
just we're excited about how hard they work, to include Luke.
Luke's done a great job.
Speaker 16 (09:42):
What does a jump first sacre look like in this
year and what does he need to do on these
fields he's during training camp in order to achieve it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, to take the next step for Cedric, which I think,
like we talk about with all of our players taking
the next step. You know, it's not just one particular
player like this guy's the only one take the next step, right,
we all have to and I think to take the
next step, it's just consistency.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Cedric has proven that he can do it at a
high level. He had some real good production prior to
his injury last year. We're really excited about his development,
still are and time on task is what's critical. He
needs to be out here available. We're very fortunate, you know,
he's come back, he's healthy. He had to come out
of practice the other day, but we're moving forward. He's healthy,
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done a great job, and his availability. It starts with that,
and then just overall consistency is what's most important with
Cedric right now.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
How grateful were you that you dodged that full said
the other day.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean that's you know, the fear as a coach,
you know when you step on the field is the
most important thing is the health of your team, and
especially the guy's selfishly you coach, you know, you're like
family with those guys.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
So I think we were, you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Know, really excited obviously that that Cedric popped up and
was able to you know, practice yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And moving forward.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
He's full participant and we expect him to just to
come out here and do what he's doing and that's
improved and work hard.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
From last year to this point, have you seen Jerry
Gudy kind of take that next step in like the leadership.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, I mean Jerry's done a great job of leadership,
you know. And I think leadership is it's not just
what you say, but it's what you do.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
And that's what Jerry's done.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
He's put a product on tape that has been very
good at a high level. You know, He's played at
a high level, and that's allowed him to I would say,
not have a voice, but he's allowed him to go
out there and show the way, you know, and he's
done it through his actions. And been really excited about
Jerry and just where he is and look forward to
and Jerry's done a great job of managing expectations. So
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you know, we're not looking to we don't make any
comparisons to last year. We last year is done. We're
just trying to do the best we can for the
team to win, and that's what Jerry's done.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
Kevin has praised guys in the past for their versatility.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Jerry's one of those.
Speaker 14 (11:49):
Yes, how important is it to have guys that played basically.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Can line up anywhere in a formation.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think it's one of the most important traits of
a player within our offense. His versatility is so important.
If you can do more than just one role, you know,
it increases obviously your chances to play and really earn
a role for the team. So I think, you know,
we've challenged each of these guys to do something beyond
what their normal role is, and the only thing that
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prevents somebody from doing that sometimes is the mental ability
to learn. So we are fortunate that we have a
bunch of smart guys in the receiver room that will
allow them to play in a multiple position role.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Pass come on pass alone today.
Speaker 16 (12:31):
I know we talk about like the offensive and defensive
line how that impacts them, But for your group, what
does that do for you guys? How does an impact
training camp from the past time.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yes, super excited as a receiver coach that pads are
on because we get to compete in the run games,
you know, and that's such a part of playing the
receiver position. We take a lot of pride in it.
I think if you're a great running football team, you
have receivers that are unselfish that are going to block
in the run game. So I am very excited to
go out on the field to day and see who
will compete in the run game. We've challenged the guys
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just ten minutes ago in the meeting, as I stand
here right now. We're looking forward to get in on
the in the pads. I know our whole team is
looking forward to being in pads, but certainly receivers are.
Speaker 12 (13:10):
To the Kenny Fucke injury.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Impact your right now.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, so you know we we truly and it's been
you know, regardless of again who's stepping in the huddle.
Now there's one less, but it doesn't it doesn't affect
us at all as far as our job. You know,
our job is to just focus in on the details
and the assignment of that play. Again, we have so
much on our plate from route running details to the
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assignment of the play that regardless of who's in the huddle,
who's throwing the ball. You know, I always joke I
could be out there playing quarterback, and really it doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You know, their job doesn't change.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Obviously, the completion percentage would probably decrease significantly if I
was playing right, but their job doesn't change. Their job
is to get open and catch the ball. We have
so many things to focus in on. Doesn't affect us
at all.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Up next, offensive line coach Mike bloomber And discussed his
excitement to get some contact going in the trenches.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Well, how many of days today you know, getting you know,
finally being get the pass. How much do you try
not to overreact to what you see the first day,
from the first day of pass, especially your position group.
Speaker 17 (14:21):
Well, I think actually it has a lot more value
than those four days we just had. When you talk
specifical about offensive line, I think when the pads come on,
I think it's a critically important and evaluation process for
every position, but certainly for offensive linemen. You know, this
is a day where we get to see what really
is happening with the block, Like, are you earning the
movement you're getting on the defensive lineman? Can you take
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the man from point A to point B against his
will and do our job to make sure we're creating
those holes?
Speaker 18 (14:49):
And how different he looks and he's talked about really
building muscles, an emphasis and swimming. Just what have you
seen from Jimson since you've gotten here and then it practiced.
Speaker 17 (14:59):
Yeah, I think since I've gotten here, I've seen that
commitment to become a better version of himself and that's
what we're all trying to do. So that's great impressions
in the early practice, you know, like I think Friday
was probably his best practice all told since I've been here,
and that's obviously a very good sign. Now we got
to build on it today because, just like everybody in
this room, what we got to hunt in these dog days,
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in this phase of this training camp is consistency.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
And you know, as an offensive lineman, you can have.
Speaker 17 (15:25):
Fifty eight perfect plays and two really bad ones and
that's a really bad deal for our football team.
Speaker 12 (15:30):
So consistency is the thing we're striving for this week.
Kid came out and played well. He really just did.
Speaker 17 (15:37):
I mean, he made a commitment once again, Like there's
we talked about this last time I was in front
of you, Like, there's so many good things in the package.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
It is Dwan Jones, and it's.
Speaker 17 (15:46):
It's our job, and it's our collective job and his
job to get those things out of them.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Weak the becides to one.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
The other four guys are thirty or get it, turned
thirty within the next week, I think. So Yeah, as
a coach, are there any concerns you about that? Do
you have to coach them any different, manage them any
different guys? They're at all older than other guys.
Speaker 17 (16:06):
Yeah, I think Kevin has a great plan for that
in training camp and certainly as we're trying to to
make this a physical training camp, how we're gonna take
care of those guys and and there's a good plan
in place. There's also in open lines of communication where
I want to hear from those guys, you know, like
how is your body feeling? Because I know I'm a
better coach with those guys on the field, and so
we're gonna do everything we can to keep them ready
for for game days while getting the work at these
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new techniques in some cases so that they can be
completely comfortable and can get their job done when they're
in there because they're.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Also comfort level giving it. Those four guys have as
much experience, especially even together.
Speaker 17 (16:38):
Yeah, I I the nonverbal communication between those guys is
really cool, you know, like a grunt means a lot
of things.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I think Saturday that Jackson Bartley in one of those
days off.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
Sure does that reflect how well Jackson Barton.
Speaker 17 (16:54):
Or rotating guys, really rotating guys in I think both
Jackson Barton and Cornelis Lucas have done really well to date. Uh,
Jackson's done some some really cool things in the run game,
We've got to get him to solidify his pass sets
and comfort at sitting down a defender, and that's what
we're gonna continue to work with with him. But with
Jack having that day off, it was just easy, let's
plug him in, let's see how he does. And so
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that was great to get him that work.
Speaker 12 (17:20):
With the ones you said Lucas and Barton. Right now.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
He is.
Speaker 17 (17:31):
Yeah, he's doing a nice job and you'll actually see
him get some out there today.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
What's the reasoning behind.
Speaker 17 (17:38):
Absolutely, like one of our core tenants is in offense,
we're trying to make sure we're doing as multiple and
versatile and it's not like we're gonna line up in
a lot of different roles as offensive linemen in terms
of lining up at this receiver or doing this running
the ball.
Speaker 12 (17:50):
So what does that mean for us? It means how
many positions can we play?
Speaker 17 (17:53):
The old more you can do adage and so, uh,
if you talk about like a game day roster, if
Zach has the ability to be a backup center or
certainly an emergency center, that's a big deal for our
football team. Last year, I know you were here, Yeah,
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I mean not being here, can't really speak about last year.
But I can talk about what we talked about, uh
back in May or June whatever that was, like, this
is a kid that's had an off season now and
you're seeing the value of that. I think he's playing
at a much higher level than when we first hit
the field in April, and that's exactly what I expected.
So it's it's great to see that he's had that
time to put in the work and he's getting more
comfortable with these techniques. Even as we talk about putting
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him at center to day the spring.
Speaker 11 (18:39):
During the twist push discussions, he had said, you have
some creative ideas for short are when we see those
on the practice field or.
Speaker 17 (18:48):
Could in large Oh, we'll show whatever Kevin and Tommy
choose to show, uh if that makes sense. I mean,
we certainly have a way we believe in doing short
yards and goal line and a lot of it is
technique driven as much as any plays. But yeah, we
we believe in Once again, as I talked about the
moving a man from point A to point B against
his will, there's no time that that's more important that
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we get the movement than in short yard and goal line.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Taking a while.
Speaker 17 (19:19):
You're going too deep man for this conversation. Yeah, he
certainly can be. I think Zach can be. I think
Luke Whippler can be. Those are all guys that are
are possible candidates for that world.
Speaker 15 (19:33):
What was allowed Julio to remain as productive as he
has for as.
Speaker 12 (19:37):
Long as he has, I don't know.
Speaker 17 (19:40):
There's probably some grace of God, but there's also the
way that he works, in the way that he prepares
his body. You know, Kevin gave the guys a night
off the other night, and I just said, I asked
Joel to talk to the room about what his process
is going to be on that evening in the next
day to prepare for what's to come as we go
into six practices in a row here in dog days.
And he's just unbelievable with its process. I think again,
process is a big part of it.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Mike, kind of a big picture offensive line question.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
You know you've been involved with the brand first level recruiting,
you know, my junior days in college.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Have you noticed that.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
The pool of offensive linement coming up through the system
from high.
Speaker 13 (20:17):
School to college is it shrinking in your the kind
of elite, elite kind of offensive line.
Speaker 17 (20:27):
I think at every level of football right now, it's
harder to train guys to be great offensive linemens. So
I'm not sure that the pool is shrinking, but the
guys that actually get the development to get to that
point prior to get into the National Football League is
maybe less.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Mike.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
It's been about I think twelve years since you were.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
In the US fifteen. Yeah, lifetime is seen. The game
has changed, certainly, some schemes have.
Speaker 17 (20:51):
The way you relate to players, I've always found it
to be the same at all levels. And you know,
I always want the players to know like I'm there
to help them and way, And I think that's the
job of a coach, whether it's working for Coach Bowden
early in my career or whatever. Like your job as
a coach is to take a player or someplace he
cannot or will not take himself.
Speaker 12 (21:08):
And so what does that mean?
Speaker 17 (21:09):
We got to find out uniquely how we help each player.
And it's not a cookie cutter or one size fits
all model. We're gonna have techniques and we're gonna have
ways to start, but like, how do I motivate this
kid or how do I give him a technique? It's
gonna be a good tool for him. But as you
talk about schemes, yeah, there's some different things, certainly schemes
I believe, so yeah.
Speaker 12 (21:30):
That and the way the off season is so flag
football esque.
Speaker 18 (21:37):
It seems like from watching you, like actually coach them
out there in practices, like you're constantly explaining the why
for like everything you're wanting guys to do. I guess,
just is that a fair assessment of watching you out there?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
And if yes, like why is that important for even if.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
It's like individual drills always doing that?
Speaker 17 (21:54):
Yeah, I think with everything you want to be able
to connect the individual drill to teams, so again telling
them exactly what we're working and the why as you're saying,
but I think with every block we talk about triple A,
which is not the car service is gonna come give
you a toe. It's alignment, assignment and adjustment. And if
I understand the why behind my technique that it helps
me when that adjustment happens and I need to do
it in a fractional second a.
Speaker 15 (22:16):
Couple How do you think do you think back to
kind of back to Joel, he's the guy of his
stature with the number of a prose robles.
Speaker 12 (22:25):
He's made.
Speaker 15 (22:26):
It feels like at a flash your position, he might
be a Hall of Fame candidate, but profoball reference to
whatever it's worth, it gives him less of a probability.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Do you think offensive linement are properly represented in the Hall?
Speaker 17 (22:38):
You know, I don't even know the criteria, but what
I can tell you is, having watched and studied Joel
for years and years and years before I got here,
I think he looks like a Hall of Fame candidate.
To me, I don't get a vote, not my area.
But uh yeah, I don't understand that that rationale that
you talked about. If the Pro Football Reference is saying
it differently, why do you think it could be that?
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Why is he deserving?
Speaker 10 (23:01):
Why why would there be someone overlooking him?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah? I can speak to that.
Speaker 17 (23:06):
I can tell you again like the longevity of his career,
the high level that he's played at, making those Pro Bowls,
and like what do you have to do to make
the Hall of Fame be top one or two at
your position for a couple of years, he's checked those boxes.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
When we talk about the fact that he's gonna be
going against Miles has been, then we'll be in pad.
I think what kind of extra dynamics is then to
him and you just given that Miles is wll be
the best in the business.
Speaker 12 (23:31):
And what he does.
Speaker 17 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean as a competitor, you want the best,
and especially we can get that work in and practice right,
like come come to the dojo and bring your best,
because that's all it's gonna do is help us as
we learn to fight. And so again, I do think
there's tremendous value in that we may not appreciate every
day when we go back and watch the film or
when we when Dewan has a particular rep. But that
is all that's doing is sharpening him. It really is
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the old iron sharpens iron.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Off of that just as you bring you know, set
you know, kind of watching the film and greating your own.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Guys, what are you noticing about the defensive how much are.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You kind of like how much do you say, you know,
like you say, that's Miles Garrett, He's going to you
know so, or you know what Mason Graham has done
or anything like that. How much are you kind of
noticing that and passing bolts onto you know that that room.
Speaker 17 (24:20):
Yeah, we haven't done a whole lot of crossover with
Jock and I where we talk about those things yet,
but I believe we will at some point. You certainly
notice who flashes, Like who is being a consistent problem?
Who is if they're giving those those four that we
mentioned any problems, uh, that's those ones, then they're probably
doing a good job. And so again, like, what do
we need to do to handle this guy? And we're
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not in a game plan type format, right, We're not
doing that. But at the same time, like the techniques
are different for some people, and honestly, going against Coach
Schwartz's defense is different with them being such an attack
front that there's different things we have to modify within
our scheme just to make it work.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Who's flashing?
Speaker 12 (24:56):
I'm sorry, who is flashy? Ah?
Speaker 17 (24:58):
You should ask Jock who's flash I don't know exactly
what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 12 (25:01):
I just know who's disruptive.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Cornerbacks coach Brandon Lynch reflected on what Denzel Ward said
was his best season in twenty twenty four and how
he can build on it in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I guess let's start with that.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
We talked to him last week.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
He said he felt like last year personally his best year.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
How have you seen him kind of come back and attack.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
This season after that?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 19 (25:18):
You know what, Like he's really attacked our cultural standards.
You know, we asked all of our guys to like
attack the ball, attack the day, like really put violence, efforts,
swag on passion on tape. And he's been a guy
like he's been doing it in the meeting rooms. He's
been doing it obviously in the weight room. You know,
now we're getting a chance to see it on the grass.
Speaker 14 (25:36):
How important is it that he sets that example? I
mean he was here all spring and people said just
being that guy that doesn't up.
Speaker 19 (25:44):
You know, without a doubt, he's one of our like
trusted leaders on the field. So the biggest thing for
him is it's not the exception, it's really the expectation,
you know. And when we talked about hard and toughness,
like and really that that callous that we want to
like really evolve in while we're here at camp. Yeah,
he's really putting it on there and we gotta keep motivating.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
Spend a lot of time one on on what didn't talk, Sure,
a lot of visits as jam skills, right, Uh So
he talks ball on walking along the side.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Is there rhythm when he's at the Jery machine, you
know said did he come.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
To you or did he come there to set up
this program to improvements?
Speaker 13 (26:24):
Inception?
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Sure?
Speaker 19 (26:25):
You know I it's a cultural standard. You know that
teachers teach and students they wanna be taught. So he's
a young guy. He really wants the information. He's a
extremely hard worker, come in early, stay late guy. So
it's really been, you know, a cohesive conversation between us
both on what our team ideals are where we're trying
to get to as a offense, defense and special teams,
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and really we're getting a chance to just cohesively do
it on the field together.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
He's talked about one interceptions and when he talk what
the six of 'em?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
When? Years whatever? Is this a sert effort? His part
is the team's pre too for the techniques.
Speaker 19 (27:04):
You know, w without a doubt, you know, we know
that the most important thing is we keep we keep
the team first and us being able to get the
ball back for our offense and our special teams.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
That's gonna help us win games. That's gonna help our team.
Speaker 19 (27:15):
So really that conversation is the team first, you know,
and that's being a hundred percent accountable to it.
Speaker 15 (27:21):
Brittan, how much, if at all, do you believe in
the concept of a or a sophomore slumple You come
in the league, maybe if you're good as a rookie,
and then the tea, the the league gets more film.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
On you and second year is kind of designed for
you to take a step.
Speaker 19 (27:32):
Back, you know what, Like it's all standards as far
as technique and fundamentals, right, Like the more reps that
you have on tasks, the better that you're gonna get.
And we really expect our guys to keep improving daily.
You know, we bring in the right guys. We talk
about bringing in start players, So bringing in the correct
guys in the mix that have the attitude of they
wanna get better every single day, it really helps that.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
And then with the Martin is a great first year
less you're a little bit more up and down.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I guess what do you think?
Speaker 10 (28:01):
What do you think was the the reasoning behind him?
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Sure?
Speaker 19 (28:05):
You know what Martin is a is a hard worker man,
you know what I'm saying, Like, extremely hard worker. And
he's a guy that you know, when you talk about
just reps on tasks. Right, he's a young guy seeing
more plays. He's being more involved with our you know,
our special teams. He's more involved with our weight room staff,
our nutrition staff. So he's really trending on the rids.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Now.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Ran with Greg the last year you missed all the
training camp with that hamshing surgery, and he said he
feels healthy. What difference do you see did you this
year and did you ever even seem fully healthy.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
At all last year? You know, I see him really
attacking the day.
Speaker 19 (28:39):
You know, he's always been like a very assertive, like learner,
a very assertive young man, but you really see him
attacking the moment, attacking to day. He's one of our
team leaders, you know, and we talk about like be
a trusted teammate, right, He's somebody that they go to
for communication. We talk about counter terrorism, see something, say something.
So you feel his presence on the field, is it.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Does he talk to you about the importance to him
of not being just considered a MIKEL corner and the
slack guy that he has that ability.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
To play on the outside.
Speaker 19 (29:08):
You know, all of our guys like they value versatility,
like just like our defense and our offense, right, But
he's a guy that values the versatility himself. Like, these
are guys that they wanna be in the slot, they
wanna be outside, they wanna blitz, you know, they wanna
be in zone coverage and man coverage, just to show
that all their traits so that we can be a
hundred percent accountable to the team. So it's really cool
to see just how unselfish he is to put the
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team first in that.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
In that category, you have mentioned.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Plan zone coverage.
Speaker 19 (29:34):
Of those curious, like, we saw some coverage bus last year,
particularly in the zone coverage.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
What's the key to making sure that you know that
that hasn't happening again.
Speaker 19 (29:42):
Communication first, you know, that's that's one of the very
first things we talk about. Communication first, then execution. We
try to like really simplify it for our guys. Stance
alignment key first step. But before we can execute the call,
we gotta communicate and then execute it at a high level.
Speaker 14 (29:59):
Mee uh, I've heard over the years guys talk a
lot about I.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Don't wanna force the interception.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I'm not gonna you know, always go for the ball.
Speaker 12 (30:06):
I'm gonna stick that.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You might technique and try to make the play.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
But with you guys putting such a point.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Of emphasis on getting more picks this year, do they
have to force it a little bit?
Speaker 12 (30:16):
I attack the ball a little bit more.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
How do you walk that line?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yes, ma'am, you know what it's really I it's not
the what what would you say?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's not the.
Speaker 19 (30:26):
Urre to the curve, right, it's the expectation like it.
It really is like, this is what we must do
to help our team. So really, we're not gonna fret
place like it's one of those things that it is
part of the process. We wanna keep getting time on task,
trusting that process, knowing that those things come in bunches.
And as long as we can stay get tight and
stay tight now we force the quarterback office first read
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and then we get our engine.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
Home back to uh MJ.
Speaker 19 (30:52):
Yes, it's such a good two days against Justin Jefferson
a year ago here, sure in the joy practice and.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Then the probably wasn't pacease overall that you wanted?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
What why do you think it developed into that kind
of season? On Eglage said that to me Ating, he'd.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
He didn't have the season he wanted, even though it
looked like if it was gonna be a breakout of years.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Or what happened?
Speaker 19 (31:10):
You know, what things happen, you know, and and when
I say things happen like he's a young player who
puts the team first, who is extremely invested in what
we do and it's important to him.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
So whenever you got like a young.
Speaker 19 (31:22):
Player like that, seeing more reps on tasks, having more exposure, right,
the guys like that really trend upward fast.
Speaker 16 (31:30):
It seems like depth in the name of the game
for the secondary, for for the corners in particular, How
important is this kind of year for the young guys,
for the up and comers to be ready for if
their number is called at any point in the.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Regular season, what he gets here?
Speaker 19 (31:43):
Sure, we gotta have a heart and toughness and every
single thing that we do. And without a doubt, you know,
we just can't depend on, you know, our star players.
We talk about we hold our best players the most accountable.
So it's very important for our best players to make
sure that our depth players are ready to go as
far as with our urgent, see our violence and our
swag once we get out there. So now we're very
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clear on what our cultural standards are and we can
reflect it.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
You mention that swag seems like, oh, no, matter what
happened last year, the guys in your group in particular,
we're kind of leading away, keeping the the spirits high.
How long have you seen that replust and in training
campus year, the guy's.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Bringing that swag out here, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 19 (32:21):
Like and and let's let's be clear, that is the expectation, Like,
that is the expectation for us to really attack the ball,
for us to really set the pace. And we talk
about setting the pace for our offense, our defense, and
our special team. We talk about we set the pace
at the tip of the sphere for our whole organization.
So starting fast, making sure that our whole group can
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really function at a high levels important.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
What's an underpr appreciated part of Denzel Wards camps?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
You said the underappreciated I think his leadership.
Speaker 19 (32:51):
You know, I think that you know, we all see,
you know, the the flashes of speed, we see the
aggressive play.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Things like that.
Speaker 19 (32:58):
But he is a very very very very okay smart player.
You know, he's a guy that really leads us. We
talk about the tip of the spear. He's the first
one in battle.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
You know.
Speaker 19 (33:08):
He he's the first one that you know when we
need to uptick as far as like with our urgency,
with our attitude. He's somebody that not just our secondary
leads on, but our nerves center and our engine lead
on it as well.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Finally, tight End David N. Joke, who talked about his
role in the offense and how he's been mentoring the
newest Browns tight End Harold Fannon Junior.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Are you pads on today?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Eager as hell?
Speaker 12 (33:30):
Why?
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I'm just it's an exciting uh place to be right now,
you know what I mean? Like you know, uh, there's
always the jitter moments of first pads for the first day,
So I'm excited. I can't wait to see what the
team has to offer, you know, uh and risking of
work hard.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
They were you ever healthy after before last year? No,
how frustrating he was that, especially how it effect like
you and.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
Everything else that it was upsetting, but you know what
it means, there's no excuse. So I I still had
the opportunity to do what I was able to do,
So I'm starving to.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Do more, do you ren know you think through a
very tough emotion at that time in the last week
or so, is it?
Speaker 12 (34:07):
I'm I'm sure let's.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Be difficult for you to kind of come tark now
wise get be here at.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
You know, honestly speaking, I think this is the best
place that I should be, you know, just being with
my teammates here every day. You know, they uplift me.
I've I up left them and we get after it
and we have fun. So I wouldn't be anywhere else.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
Did What would your case be for Joel Plotonio as
a whole thing?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
He's awesome? Yes, I I I would say I would
vote yes. Joel's uh my guy.
Speaker 15 (34:33):
Pro Football Reference gives him some sort of percentage chance
in the forties.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Why, that's a pretty good chance.
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Huh, it's better than zero.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
It was not than that, is Clinton spetistically correct? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:44):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Do you think I think Joel should be in the
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Man?
Speaker 6 (34:47):
He's a beast. Do you think.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
Offensive lineman maybe overlooked sometimes in most.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
No, bro, I mean so ye, I mean, uh, I get,
I get, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
You know, Yeah, I it ain't the flashy plays, right,
but I think he uh is a huge part of
this team for so many years as far so I
think I think he has a good chance.
Speaker 12 (35:06):
You like Christy, they've been putting in your impressions in
Harold so far.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Oh my god, he's a beast, right mm I love it.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
I he's awesome, you know what I mean it It
builds a competition and we get that much better together.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Uh, he's awesome. He's a great kid.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Last week, Joe said that.
Speaker 16 (35:22):
The offensive line was the one area of this team
that no one had to worry about.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
They're working really hard.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
What have you seen, cause you work so closely with
them in those drills, what have you seen from everybody?
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Like about the things that they do?
Speaker 9 (35:32):
I've seen the the uh intentional uh focus And I
mean like the intentional work that they put in. You know,
they they they do what they do because they want
to do it.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Other people, I guess you know, i'm' I wanna talk
to other people. I'll talking about his us, right, Uh.
I just see the intentional work, the intentional uh actions?
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Do you did?
Speaker 18 (35:50):
You really have way so many years.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
To being able to also walk about used to be
a past catcher.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
How much can you help Harold sort of develop that
part of.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
This game as well, yeah, I'm gonna have him come
come over my house a lot more often. You know
what I'm saying, just just being around him, I feel
like it. Uh, it's just it's the energy, the but
they'll want to and that's really.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Like like the the most important yo.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I know you guys might have to be with uh.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
We know that you guys grew up to be Kenny
for at least a few days.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
How was Kenny coming along?
Speaker 10 (36:18):
And what were you seeing in Kenny?
Speaker 9 (36:21):
He's a a great player as well, you know he
he he's uh a great leader, you know, just like
the aura just of him being in the the huddle alone.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
It I it uh it it means a lot.
Speaker 12 (36:30):
It's a team David, What is there?
Speaker 18 (36:32):
Friend like having Joe Flacco back?
Speaker 6 (36:34):
You guys on Clago developed such a chemistry of twenty
twenty three? Hey, how do you do? Uh No, yeah,
Joe's my guy.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
I mean obviously, as you've seen two years ago, there's
not very much to say, you know, just I think
the f the the film speaks more.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
I don't know, say a couple of morning.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
I know you've been such a big part of this
offic since kind a guy here, but this year feels
like this question before you were asked, Judy, do you
feel like you're you're gonna be punted on passes?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
It's not just passes being caught that I'm being kind
of being held account for. It's just the energy, you
know what I'm saying, Just like I mean, energy is contagious,
you feel me.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Outside today in pads and just scream for no reason
and people will get fired up. That just just those
little subtle things go along way are bigger, bigger, look bigger.
I don't know, man, I'll be working out sometimes.
Speaker 15 (37:27):
How much you mentioned developing the want to Just the
last one for for a Harald is how did you develop.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Your want to be as a blocker?
Speaker 9 (37:35):
I would say being forced to be a third string
four or five years ago, you know what I mean?
Being you know, I guess quote unquote black ball as
they say, but no that that really just uh woke
up my my my drive, you know, or I guess
multiplied my drive, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
I wanted to do this because I wanted to do it,
and that was just that. That'll do it.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
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to the From the Podium podcast.
Welcome to another training camp edition of the From the
Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Kleura. Today was the first day
in pads for the Cleveland Browns in Borea. Got to
see a little contact today. On this episode, you'll hear
from head coach Kevin Stefanski, wide receivers coach Chad O'Shea,
offensive line coach Mike Bloomgren, cornerbacks coach Brandon Lynch, and
tight end David Najoku. Up first, the head coach of
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your Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski, previewed the first day in
pads a training camp.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, exciting day for the organization. We have Rainbow Day
out here. You know, University Hospitals is an amazing partner
with us and the things that they're doing in the
community is incredible. So we have some patients out here
from pediatric that are going to get to watch practice
and meet our players.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But it's a special relationship. I'm fortunate. As you can see.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
My sweet kicks I got on here designed by Jordan Cunningham,
who I just met over here. She's a patient and
she designed some sneakers for me for today. So I'm
very much obliged, but Uh, really cool day for the organization.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But with that, I'll take any.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Questions to any why did they.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Care for it happened?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Uh at the end of practice there a couple of
days ago, felt something.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So we'll just treat it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, for any player, you know, you're disappointed when
you can't be out there with any injury. But uh,
he'll be fine, he'll rehab, he'll get back out very quickly.
I don't have a timeline we're and you know with
something like this, Uh, we'll see how it goes. But
his mindset, my mindset will just go day to day.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Did you have a ming, Yes, he didn't care or anything.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I'm not gonna get into specifics on the injuries other
than to tell you he's a he's gonna do everything
in his power to get back a SAP.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
What does it mean to you? Rotation?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, obviously everybody will get a little bit more because
of how you're going to distribute those reps.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
Are we gonna see the team periods break down again or.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Is it more?
Speaker 7 (01:56):
Are they gonna break on a different fields again?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, we're not gonna two spot. The plan was
just a two spot in the first four days of camp.
We two spotted in the off season quite a bit,
so at this point we were not playing on doing
more that.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Jerome is getting extremely close. I saw him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
He'll be out here, not a he'll be a participant,
but in a limited capacity.
Speaker 8 (02:21):
Kevin, I know you said there might not be changes
to the rotation anyway, but did you know ahead of time, Like,
did you know earlier enough that you didn't really have
to think about how your four man rotation.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Would have changed.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I meant knew coming off the practice field, and
then knew the severity of it obviously as we talked
through it. That he's gonna miss today and maybe a
couple of days. But we'll re evaluate it after this block,
if you will. And but you know, again, disappointed for Kenny,
but he's he's here, he's getting better, and we'll see
when he's back out there.
Speaker 8 (02:52):
He'd get so many of the first team reps. Do
those I'll go to Joe, Do you buy him by
two or three?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Or it really depends on the period and what we're
trying to get accomplished in there, But Joe would get
the majority of them.
Speaker 9 (03:03):
And how about how.
Speaker 10 (03:04):
Does this then trickle down to Dylan. Does it mean
a lot more of work with the ones for Dylan
and maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Some teams for sure?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
A little bit of both, Mary Kay, I think it's
really dependent on the period, what we're trying to accomplish
in that period, and just moving these guys around, giving
them some more exposure.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Kevin to that in Dylan had seemed to get a
little bit more work with the ones the last couple
of days last week.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
What have you?
Speaker 5 (03:28):
What did you see specifically in those periods out of
him and and what was sort of the was it
just to kind of throw him in there with him
and kind of see how he handled this.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think all these guys have to learn from every
single rep, whether they're in there or not. I think
that's something we've talked about at length, and I've talked
with you guys about that. Uh And I thought Dylan
did a nice job with the reps that he had.
There was some some really good moments and then some
moments that are great teaching moments. I think that's so
much of where we are in training camp is making
sure that as as a mistake is made, we'll make
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the same mistake again.
Speaker 11 (04:01):
What's your philosophy this year on padded practices, how intense
will you.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Get hit much?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah? Once the pads go on, Tony, they're on today.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh, we'll take a day off tomorrow, put them back
on on Wednesday. But uh, really the the you still
need to practice safely. So we'll thud the runners, meaning
you'll will fit up the runners. We won't tackle to
the ground in this practice. Uh, but it is important
that when you get the pads on offense defense, specially teams,
you have to you have to get acclimated to your pads,
as you know, quarterbacks throwing in shoulder pads, people catching shoulder.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Pads, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
But by the same token, while yes it's physical, we
don't want a bunch of guys on the ground, that's
not the the intention of putting the pads on. It's
still to use our technique and still to uh be
smart when it's browns versus browns.
Speaker 12 (04:50):
Would you like.
Speaker 13 (04:51):
Kenny aligns were really kind of coming down.
Speaker 10 (04:53):
And showcasing his mobility a little bit. I thought he
had a nicer first four days.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What were your thoughts on how Yeah, I thought Kenny
had a strong block there like like you mentioned Mary
Kay uh did use his mobility a couple of times
there and was and is a fast player.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
He can really run.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
So uh, we'll make sure that he heals up nice
and nice and fast.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And then get him back out there. But I thought
he had a good.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Four days sits on the first day of National It's
not gonna ramp up for today.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Specifically, what I want been from the com well.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I think kind of like we were saying, you know,
we want the players to get comfortable in their paths.
There is an element of literally just throwing and catching
which you're not even you're not allowed to do, and
your shoulder pads previous to now, so getting used to it,
and then then the.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Physicality will ramp up.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I mean it's it's we're not in those soft shells anymore,
so you'll hear it a little bit more, the physicality
of it. But that's all part of training camp that's
been going on for a pretty long time.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Were waiting for full paths to do in your live.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Uh No, not not waiting per se. We we did
some field goal work the other day.
Speaker 12 (06:03):
Kept m love him, want not we're just killing him.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Uh. We did both sides.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I mean we had we had field goal on field
goal block as part of Kevin David.
Speaker 14 (06:12):
Njok who told us today that he never really felt
healthy after Week one last year. So what I guess
how how impressive was it that he kept kind of
going out there and kept fighting to be out there.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
And what do you expect out of a.
Speaker 12 (06:22):
Healthy Najoeku this year?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think we've all seen what Dave can do when
he's healthy, and I and you're right, I don't think
he was uh was healthy last season. So he's feeling
good now. Uh he w w I when he's himself
and and feeling like himself. He's a huge part of
what we do, not only offensively, but just as a
football team, and and his energy is certainly felt throughout
this building. So UH excited for him to to be healthy.
Speaker 12 (06:47):
Argue that I think.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Kenny ll get back in time to be a key
member of his format. Yeah, I'm confident Kenny's gonna attack
his rehab.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Like we talked about Mary kay this the evaluation on
these guys is all encompassing, and it goes back through
the spring, it goes to what they've put on tape already.
As as football players. So I know he wants to
be out there, but he's still very very much involved.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Said people will go to be Yes.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
Did you have any update on when when Shawn Trunks
couldn't rejoin the team.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't have an update.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
Mike Woods and Kevin Jenkins?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Are they still out?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Mike is out, Tevin is getting close and it looked
like same idea will be out but.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Working hard up Next, wide receivers coach Chad O'sha discussed
Jerry Judy's growth as a leader in the locker room.
Speaker 15 (07:37):
And then you said the job there's in change his
playing quarterback, but Jerry's breakout a year last year, much
of that was a reminder that sometimes receiver production can
be environment dependent as well.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean I agree, Like you know, Jerry did
a great job of coming in here and really ignoring
any noise that was out there, noise right there. So
he did a tremendous job of ignoring the noise and
really just focusing and then on what we wanted him
to do to be successful in that play. He Jerry's
very coachable. You know a lot of these guys you think,
like guys, ask me, uh, are these guys coachable. We
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have a coachable group and it starts with Jerry Judy.
So if he accepts coaching and works hard, good things
are gonna happen.
Speaker 15 (08:14):
Do you think the general notion that receivers are mercurial
or emotional or something like that.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
What do you think of that general You know, I'll
say I'm very fortunate right now with the Cleveland Browns receivers.
We have a great group. You know, we have a
group that is just unselfish. I enjoy coaching those guys.
I come in the room every day in in a
great mood because the group I'm gonna stand in front
of is just tremendous in terms of their work, ethic,
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their humility. Jerry is at the front helping the younger
guys out. But it's just been a lot of fun
to see that group in the chemistry we have in
the room. Did you mention receivers, Yeah, Luke, as similar
to our other three rookie receivers we have, is done
a great job of learning the offense of coming into
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camp in great condition. You know, we say your job
here is to get open and catch the ball, and
he has certainly put that on tape and has been
displayed on the field so far. He's got a unique
skill set to separate versus tight man coverage, particularly in
the slot alignment. So we're really excited, as we are
a lot of our players right now because it's such
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an exciting time to see these guys develop and improve.
Luke has done a great job of working hard but
certainly having a long way to go, just like all
of our players, to include Jerry Judy, you know, we
have a long way to go. They acknowledge that and
just we're excited about how hard they work, to include Luke.
Luke's done a great job.
Speaker 16 (09:42):
What does a jump first sacre look like in this
year and what does he need to do on these
fields he's during training camp in order to achieve it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, to take the next step for Cedric, which I think,
like we talk about with all of our players taking
the next step. You know, it's not just one particular
player like this guy's the only one take the next step, right,
we all have to and I think to take the
next step, it's just consistency.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Cedric has proven that he can do it at a
high level. He had some real good production prior to
his injury last year. We're really excited about his development,
still are and time on task is what's critical. He
needs to be out here available. We're very fortunate, you know,
he's come back, he's healthy. He had to come out
of practice the other day, but we're moving forward. He's healthy,
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done a great job, and his availability. It starts with that,
and then just overall consistency is what's most important with
Cedric right now.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
How grateful were you that you dodged that full said
the other day.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah, I mean that's you know, the fear as a coach,
you know when you step on the field is the
most important thing is the health of your team, and
especially the guy's selfishly you coach, you know, you're like
family with those guys.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
So I think we were, you.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Know, really excited obviously that that Cedric popped up and
was able to you know, practice yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And moving forward.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
He's full participant and we expect him to just to
come out here and do what he's doing and that's
improved and work hard.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
From last year to this point, have you seen Jerry
Gudy kind of take that next step in like the leadership.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, I mean Jerry's done a great job of leadership,
you know. And I think leadership is it's not just
what you say, but it's what you do.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
And that's what Jerry's done.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
He's put a product on tape that has been very
good at a high level. You know, He's played at
a high level, and that's allowed him to I would say,
not have a voice, but he's allowed him to go
out there and show the way, you know, and he's
done it through his actions. And been really excited about
Jerry and just where he is and look forward to
and Jerry's done a great job of managing expectations. So
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you know, we're not looking to we don't make any
comparisons to last year. We last year is done. We're
just trying to do the best we can for the
team to win, and that's what Jerry's done.
Speaker 14 (11:46):
Kevin has praised guys in the past for their versatility.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
Jerry's one of those.
Speaker 14 (11:49):
Yes, how important is it to have guys that played basically.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Can line up anywhere in a formation.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think it's one of the most important traits of
a player within our offense. His versatility is so important.
If you can do more than just one role, you know,
it increases obviously your chances to play and really earn
a role for the team. So I think, you know,
we've challenged each of these guys to do something beyond
what their normal role is, and the only thing that
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prevents somebody from doing that sometimes is the mental ability
to learn. So we are fortunate that we have a
bunch of smart guys in the receiver room that will
allow them to play in a multiple position role.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Pass come on pass alone today.
Speaker 16 (12:31):
I know we talk about like the offensive and defensive
line how that impacts them, But for your group, what
does that do for you guys? How does an impact
training camp from the past time.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yes, super excited as a receiver coach that pads are
on because we get to compete in the run games,
you know, and that's such a part of playing the
receiver position. We take a lot of pride in it.
I think if you're a great running football team, you
have receivers that are unselfish that are going to block
in the run game. So I am very excited to
go out on the field to day and see who
will compete in the run game. We've challenged the guys
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just ten minutes ago in the meeting, as I stand
here right now. We're looking forward to get in on
the in the pads. I know our whole team is
looking forward to being in pads, but certainly receivers are.
Speaker 12 (13:10):
To the Kenny Fucke injury.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Impact your right now.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Yeah, so you know we we truly and it's been
you know, regardless of again who's stepping in the huddle.
Now there's one less, but it doesn't it doesn't affect
us at all as far as our job. You know,
our job is to just focus in on the details
and the assignment of that play. Again, we have so
much on our plate from route running details to the
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assignment of the play that regardless of who's in the huddle,
who's throwing the ball. You know, I always joke I
could be out there playing quarterback, and really it doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
You know, their job doesn't change.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Obviously, the completion percentage would probably decrease significantly if I
was playing right, but their job doesn't change. Their job
is to get open and catch the ball. We have
so many things to focus in on. Doesn't affect us
at all.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Up next, offensive line coach Mike bloomber And discussed his
excitement to get some contact going in the trenches.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Well, how many of days today you know, getting you know,
finally being get the pass. How much do you try
not to overreact to what you see the first day,
from the first day of pass, especially your position group.
Speaker 17 (14:21):
Well, I think actually it has a lot more value
than those four days we just had. When you talk
specifical about offensive line, I think when the pads come on,
I think it's a critically important and evaluation process for
every position, but certainly for offensive linemen. You know, this
is a day where we get to see what really
is happening with the block, Like, are you earning the
movement you're getting on the defensive lineman? Can you take
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the man from point A to point B against his
will and do our job to make sure we're creating
those holes?
Speaker 18 (14:49):
And how different he looks and he's talked about really
building muscles, an emphasis and swimming. Just what have you
seen from Jimson since you've gotten here and then it practiced.
Speaker 17 (14:59):
Yeah, I think since I've gotten here, I've seen that
commitment to become a better version of himself and that's
what we're all trying to do. So that's great impressions
in the early practice, you know, like I think Friday
was probably his best practice all told since I've been here,
and that's obviously a very good sign. Now we got
to build on it today because, just like everybody in
this room, what we got to hunt in these dog days,
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in this phase of this training camp is consistency.
Speaker 12 (15:23):
And you know, as an offensive lineman, you can have.
Speaker 17 (15:25):
Fifty eight perfect plays and two really bad ones and
that's a really bad deal for our football team.
Speaker 12 (15:30):
So consistency is the thing we're striving for this week.
Kid came out and played well. He really just did.
Speaker 17 (15:37):
I mean, he made a commitment once again, Like there's
we talked about this last time I was in front
of you, Like, there's so many good things in the package.
Speaker 12 (15:44):
It is Dwan Jones, and it's.
Speaker 17 (15:46):
It's our job, and it's our collective job and his
job to get those things out of them.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Weak the becides to one.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
The other four guys are thirty or get it, turned
thirty within the next week, I think. So Yeah, as
a coach, are there any concerns you about that? Do
you have to coach them any different, manage them any
different guys? They're at all older than other guys.
Speaker 17 (16:06):
Yeah, I think Kevin has a great plan for that
in training camp and certainly as we're trying to to
make this a physical training camp, how we're gonna take
care of those guys and and there's a good plan
in place. There's also in open lines of communication where
I want to hear from those guys, you know, like
how is your body feeling? Because I know I'm a
better coach with those guys on the field, and so
we're gonna do everything we can to keep them ready
for for game days while getting the work at these
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new techniques in some cases so that they can be
completely comfortable and can get their job done when they're
in there because they're.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
Also comfort level giving it. Those four guys have as
much experience, especially even together.
Speaker 17 (16:38):
Yeah, I I the nonverbal communication between those guys is
really cool, you know, like a grunt means a lot
of things.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
I think Saturday that Jackson Bartley in one of those
days off.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
Sure does that reflect how well Jackson Barton.
Speaker 17 (16:54):
Or rotating guys, really rotating guys in I think both
Jackson Barton and Cornelis Lucas have done really well to date. Uh,
Jackson's done some some really cool things in the run game,
We've got to get him to solidify his pass sets
and comfort at sitting down a defender, and that's what
we're gonna continue to work with with him. But with
Jack having that day off, it was just easy, let's
plug him in, let's see how he does. And so
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that was great to get him that work.
Speaker 12 (17:20):
With the ones you said Lucas and Barton. Right now.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
He is.
Speaker 17 (17:31):
Yeah, he's doing a nice job and you'll actually see
him get some out there today.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
What's the reasoning behind.
Speaker 17 (17:38):
Absolutely, like one of our core tenants is in offense,
we're trying to make sure we're doing as multiple and
versatile and it's not like we're gonna line up in
a lot of different roles as offensive linemen in terms
of lining up at this receiver or doing this running
the ball.
Speaker 12 (17:50):
So what does that mean for us? It means how
many positions can we play?
Speaker 17 (17:53):
The old more you can do adage and so, uh,
if you talk about like a game day roster, if
Zach has the ability to be a backup center or
certainly an emergency center, that's a big deal for our
football team. Last year, I know you were here, Yeah,
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I mean not being here, can't really speak about last year.
But I can talk about what we talked about, uh
back in May or June whatever that was, like, this
is a kid that's had an off season now and
you're seeing the value of that. I think he's playing
at a much higher level than when we first hit
the field in April, and that's exactly what I expected.
So it's it's great to see that he's had that
time to put in the work and he's getting more
comfortable with these techniques. Even as we talk about putting
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him at center to day the spring.
Speaker 11 (18:39):
During the twist push discussions, he had said, you have
some creative ideas for short are when we see those
on the practice field or.
Speaker 17 (18:48):
Could in large Oh, we'll show whatever Kevin and Tommy
choose to show, uh if that makes sense. I mean,
we certainly have a way we believe in doing short
yards and goal line and a lot of it is
technique driven as much as any plays. But yeah, we
we believe in Once again, as I talked about the
moving a man from point A to point B against
his will, there's no time that that's more important that
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we get the movement than in short yard and goal line.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Taking a while.
Speaker 17 (19:19):
You're going too deep man for this conversation. Yeah, he
certainly can be. I think Zach can be. I think
Luke Whippler can be. Those are all guys that are
are possible candidates for that world.
Speaker 15 (19:33):
What was allowed Julio to remain as productive as he
has for as.
Speaker 12 (19:37):
Long as he has, I don't know.
Speaker 17 (19:40):
There's probably some grace of God, but there's also the
way that he works, in the way that he prepares
his body. You know, Kevin gave the guys a night
off the other night, and I just said, I asked
Joel to talk to the room about what his process
is going to be on that evening in the next
day to prepare for what's to come as we go
into six practices in a row here in dog days.
And he's just unbelievable with its process. I think again,
process is a big part of it.
Speaker 13 (20:01):
Mike, kind of a big picture offensive line question.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
You know you've been involved with the brand first level recruiting,
you know, my junior days in college.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Have you noticed that.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
The pool of offensive linement coming up through the system
from high.
Speaker 13 (20:17):
School to college is it shrinking in your the kind
of elite, elite kind of offensive line.
Speaker 17 (20:27):
I think at every level of football right now, it's
harder to train guys to be great offensive linemens. So
I'm not sure that the pool is shrinking, but the
guys that actually get the development to get to that
point prior to get into the National Football League is
maybe less.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Mike.
Speaker 11 (20:40):
It's been about I think twelve years since you were.
Speaker 12 (20:43):
In the US fifteen. Yeah, lifetime is seen. The game
has changed, certainly, some schemes have.
Speaker 17 (20:51):
The way you relate to players, I've always found it
to be the same at all levels. And you know,
I always want the players to know like I'm there
to help them and way, And I think that's the
job of a coach, whether it's working for Coach Bowden
early in my career or whatever. Like your job as
a coach is to take a player or someplace he
cannot or will not take himself.
Speaker 12 (21:08):
And so what does that mean?
Speaker 17 (21:09):
We got to find out uniquely how we help each player.
And it's not a cookie cutter or one size fits
all model. We're gonna have techniques and we're gonna have
ways to start, but like, how do I motivate this
kid or how do I give him a technique? It's
gonna be a good tool for him. But as you
talk about schemes, yeah, there's some different things, certainly schemes
I believe, so yeah.
Speaker 12 (21:30):
That and the way the off season is so flag
football esque.
Speaker 18 (21:37):
It seems like from watching you, like actually coach them
out there in practices, like you're constantly explaining the why
for like everything you're wanting guys to do. I guess,
just is that a fair assessment of watching you out there?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
And if yes, like why is that important for even if.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
It's like individual drills always doing that?
Speaker 17 (21:54):
Yeah, I think with everything you want to be able
to connect the individual drill to teams, so again telling
them exactly what we're working and the why as you're saying,
but I think with every block we talk about triple A,
which is not the car service is gonna come give
you a toe. It's alignment, assignment and adjustment. And if
I understand the why behind my technique that it helps
me when that adjustment happens and I need to do
it in a fractional second a.
Speaker 15 (22:16):
Couple How do you think do you think back to
kind of back to Joel, he's the guy of his
stature with the number of a prose robles.
Speaker 12 (22:25):
He's made.
Speaker 15 (22:26):
It feels like at a flash your position, he might
be a Hall of Fame candidate, but profoball reference to
whatever it's worth, it gives him less of a probability.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Do you think offensive linement are properly represented in the Hall?
Speaker 17 (22:38):
You know, I don't even know the criteria, but what
I can tell you is, having watched and studied Joel
for years and years and years before I got here,
I think he looks like a Hall of Fame candidate.
To me, I don't get a vote, not my area.
But uh yeah, I don't understand that that rationale that
you talked about. If the Pro Football Reference is saying
it differently, why do you think it could be that?
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Why is he deserving?
Speaker 10 (23:01):
Why why would there be someone overlooking him?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah? I can speak to that.
Speaker 17 (23:06):
I can tell you again like the longevity of his career,
the high level that he's played at, making those Pro Bowls,
and like what do you have to do to make
the Hall of Fame be top one or two at
your position for a couple of years, he's checked those boxes.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
When we talk about the fact that he's gonna be
going against Miles has been, then we'll be in pad.
I think what kind of extra dynamics is then to
him and you just given that Miles is wll be
the best in the business.
Speaker 12 (23:31):
And what he does.
Speaker 17 (23:32):
Yeah, I mean as a competitor, you want the best,
and especially we can get that work in and practice right,
like come come to the dojo and bring your best,
because that's all it's gonna do is help us as
we learn to fight. And so again, I do think
there's tremendous value in that we may not appreciate every
day when we go back and watch the film or
when we when Dewan has a particular rep. But that
is all that's doing is sharpening him. It really is
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the old iron sharpens iron.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Off of that just as you bring you know, set
you know, kind of watching the film and greating your own.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Guys, what are you noticing about the defensive how much are.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
You kind of like how much do you say, you know,
like you say, that's Miles Garrett, He's going to you
know so, or you know what Mason Graham has done
or anything like that. How much are you kind of
noticing that and passing bolts onto you know that that room.
Speaker 17 (24:20):
Yeah, we haven't done a whole lot of crossover with
Jock and I where we talk about those things yet,
but I believe we will at some point. You certainly
notice who flashes, Like who is being a consistent problem?
Who is if they're giving those those four that we
mentioned any problems, uh, that's those ones, then they're probably
doing a good job. And so again, like, what do
we need to do to handle this guy? And we're
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not in a game plan type format, right, We're not
doing that. But at the same time, like the techniques
are different for some people, and honestly, going against Coach
Schwartz's defense is different with them being such an attack
front that there's different things we have to modify within
our scheme just to make it work.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Who's flashing?
Speaker 12 (24:56):
I'm sorry, who is flashy? Ah?
Speaker 17 (24:58):
You should ask Jock who's flash I don't know exactly
what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 12 (25:01):
I just know who's disruptive.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Cornerbacks coach Brandon Lynch reflected on what Denzel Ward said
was his best season in twenty twenty four and how
he can build on it in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
I guess let's start with that.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
We talked to him last week.
Speaker 7 (25:12):
He said he felt like last year personally his best year.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
How have you seen him kind of come back and attack.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
This season after that?
Speaker 6 (25:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 19 (25:18):
You know what, Like he's really attacked our cultural standards.
You know, we asked all of our guys to like
attack the ball, attack the day, like really put violence, efforts,
swag on passion on tape. And he's been a guy
like he's been doing it in the meeting rooms. He's
been doing it obviously in the weight room. You know,
now we're getting a chance to see it on the grass.
Speaker 14 (25:36):
How important is it that he sets that example? I
mean he was here all spring and people said just
being that guy that doesn't up.
Speaker 19 (25:44):
You know, without a doubt, he's one of our like
trusted leaders on the field. So the biggest thing for
him is it's not the exception, it's really the expectation,
you know. And when we talked about hard and toughness,
like and really that that callous that we want to
like really evolve in while we're here at camp. Yeah,
he's really putting it on there and we gotta keep motivating.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
Spend a lot of time one on on what didn't talk, Sure,
a lot of visits as jam skills, right, Uh So
he talks ball on walking along the side.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Is there rhythm when he's at the Jery machine, you
know said did he come.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
To you or did he come there to set up
this program to improvements?
Speaker 13 (26:24):
Inception?
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Sure?
Speaker 19 (26:25):
You know I it's a cultural standard. You know that
teachers teach and students they wanna be taught. So he's
a young guy. He really wants the information. He's a
extremely hard worker, come in early, stay late guy. So
it's really been, you know, a cohesive conversation between us
both on what our team ideals are where we're trying
to get to as a offense, defense and special teams,
(26:47):
and really we're getting a chance to just cohesively do
it on the field together.
Speaker 11 (26:52):
He's talked about one interceptions and when he talk what
the six of 'em?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
When? Years whatever? Is this a sert effort? His part
is the team's pre too for the techniques.
Speaker 19 (27:04):
You know, w without a doubt, you know, we know
that the most important thing is we keep we keep
the team first and us being able to get the
ball back for our offense and our special teams.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
That's gonna help us win games. That's gonna help our team.
Speaker 19 (27:15):
So really that conversation is the team first, you know,
and that's being a hundred percent accountable to it.
Speaker 15 (27:21):
Brittan, how much, if at all, do you believe in
the concept of a or a sophomore slumple You come
in the league, maybe if you're good as a rookie,
and then the tea, the the league gets more film.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
On you and second year is kind of designed for
you to take a step.
Speaker 19 (27:32):
Back, you know what, Like it's all standards as far
as technique and fundamentals, right, Like the more reps that
you have on tasks, the better that you're gonna get.
And we really expect our guys to keep improving daily.
You know, we bring in the right guys. We talk
about bringing in start players, So bringing in the correct
guys in the mix that have the attitude of they
wanna get better every single day, it really helps that.
Speaker 10 (27:54):
And then with the Martin is a great first year
less you're a little bit more up and down.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I guess what do you think?
Speaker 10 (28:01):
What do you think was the the reasoning behind him?
Speaker 6 (28:05):
Sure?
Speaker 19 (28:05):
You know what Martin is a is a hard worker man,
you know what I'm saying, Like, extremely hard worker. And
he's a guy that you know, when you talk about
just reps on tasks. Right, he's a young guy seeing
more plays. He's being more involved with our you know,
our special teams. He's more involved with our weight room staff,
our nutrition staff. So he's really trending on the rids.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
Now.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
Ran with Greg the last year you missed all the
training camp with that hamshing surgery, and he said he
feels healthy. What difference do you see did you this
year and did you ever even seem fully healthy.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
At all last year? You know, I see him really
attacking the day.
Speaker 19 (28:39):
You know, he's always been like a very assertive, like learner,
a very assertive young man, but you really see him
attacking the moment, attacking to day. He's one of our
team leaders, you know, and we talk about like be
a trusted teammate, right, He's somebody that they go to
for communication. We talk about counter terrorism, see something, say something.
So you feel his presence on the field, is it.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Does he talk to you about the importance to him
of not being just considered a MIKEL corner and the
slack guy that he has that ability.
Speaker 13 (29:07):
To play on the outside.
Speaker 19 (29:08):
You know, all of our guys like they value versatility,
like just like our defense and our offense, right, But
he's a guy that values the versatility himself. Like, these
are guys that they wanna be in the slot, they
wanna be outside, they wanna blitz, you know, they wanna
be in zone coverage and man coverage, just to show
that all their traits so that we can be a
hundred percent accountable to the team. So it's really cool
to see just how unselfish he is to put the
(29:31):
team first in that.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
In that category, you have mentioned.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Plan zone coverage.
Speaker 19 (29:34):
Of those curious, like, we saw some coverage bus last year,
particularly in the zone coverage.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
What's the key to making sure that you know that
that hasn't happening again.
Speaker 19 (29:42):
Communication first, you know, that's that's one of the very
first things we talk about. Communication first, then execution. We
try to like really simplify it for our guys. Stance
alignment key first step. But before we can execute the call,
we gotta communicate and then execute it at a high level.
Speaker 14 (29:59):
Mee uh, I've heard over the years guys talk a
lot about I.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Don't wanna force the interception.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
I'm not gonna you know, always go for the ball.
Speaker 12 (30:06):
I'm gonna stick that.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You might technique and try to make the play.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
But with you guys putting such a point.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Of emphasis on getting more picks this year, do they
have to force it a little bit?
Speaker 12 (30:16):
I attack the ball a little bit more.
Speaker 10 (30:18):
How do you walk that line?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yes, ma'am, you know what it's really I it's not
the what what would you say?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
It's not the.
Speaker 19 (30:26):
Urre to the curve, right, it's the expectation like it.
It really is like, this is what we must do
to help our team. So really, we're not gonna fret
place like it's one of those things that it is
part of the process. We wanna keep getting time on task,
trusting that process, knowing that those things come in bunches.
And as long as we can stay get tight and
stay tight now we force the quarterback office first read
(30:49):
and then we get our engine.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
Home back to uh MJ.
Speaker 19 (30:52):
Yes, it's such a good two days against Justin Jefferson
a year ago here, sure in the joy practice and.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Then the probably wasn't pacease overall that you wanted?
Speaker 6 (31:01):
What why do you think it developed into that kind
of season? On Eglage said that to me Ating, he'd.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
He didn't have the season he wanted, even though it
looked like if it was gonna be a breakout of years.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Or what happened?
Speaker 19 (31:10):
You know, what things happen, you know, and and when
I say things happen like he's a young player who
puts the team first, who is extremely invested in what
we do and it's important to him.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
So whenever you got like a young.
Speaker 19 (31:22):
Player like that, seeing more reps on tasks, having more exposure, right,
the guys like that really trend upward fast.
Speaker 16 (31:30):
It seems like depth in the name of the game
for the secondary, for for the corners in particular, How
important is this kind of year for the young guys,
for the up and comers to be ready for if
their number is called at any point in the.
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Regular season, what he gets here?
Speaker 19 (31:43):
Sure, we gotta have a heart and toughness and every
single thing that we do. And without a doubt, you know,
we just can't depend on, you know, our star players.
We talk about we hold our best players the most accountable.
So it's very important for our best players to make
sure that our depth players are ready to go as
far as with our urgent, see our violence and our
swag once we get out there. So now we're very
(32:05):
clear on what our cultural standards are and we can
reflect it.
Speaker 16 (32:07):
You mention that swag seems like, oh, no, matter what
happened last year, the guys in your group in particular,
we're kind of leading away, keeping the the spirits high.
How long have you seen that replust and in training
campus year, the guy's.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Bringing that swag out here, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 19 (32:21):
Like and and let's let's be clear, that is the expectation, Like,
that is the expectation for us to really attack the ball,
for us to really set the pace. And we talk
about setting the pace for our offense, our defense, and
our special team. We talk about we set the pace
at the tip of the sphere for our whole organization.
So starting fast, making sure that our whole group can
(32:43):
really function at a high levels important.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
What's an underpr appreciated part of Denzel Wards camps?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
You said the underappreciated I think his leadership.
Speaker 19 (32:51):
You know, I think that you know, we all see,
you know, the the flashes of speed, we see the
aggressive play.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
Things like that.
Speaker 19 (32:58):
But he is a very very very very okay smart player.
You know, he's a guy that really leads us. We
talk about the tip of the spear. He's the first
one in battle.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
You know.
Speaker 19 (33:08):
He he's the first one that you know when we
need to uptick as far as like with our urgency,
with our attitude. He's somebody that not just our secondary
leads on, but our nerves center and our engine lead
on it as well.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Finally, tight End David N. Joke, who talked about his
role in the offense and how he's been mentoring the
newest Browns tight End Harold Fannon Junior.
Speaker 10 (33:26):
Are you pads on today?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Eager as hell?
Speaker 12 (33:30):
Why?
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I'm just it's an exciting uh place to be right now,
you know what I mean? Like you know, uh, there's
always the jitter moments of first pads for the first day,
So I'm excited. I can't wait to see what the
team has to offer, you know, uh and risking of
work hard.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
They were you ever healthy after before last year? No,
how frustrating he was that, especially how it effect like
you and.
Speaker 9 (33:53):
Everything else that it was upsetting, but you know what
it means, there's no excuse. So I I still had
the opportunity to do what I was able to do,
So I'm starving to.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Do more, do you ren know you think through a
very tough emotion at that time in the last week
or so, is it?
Speaker 12 (34:07):
I'm I'm sure let's.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Be difficult for you to kind of come tark now
wise get be here at.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
You know, honestly speaking, I think this is the best
place that I should be, you know, just being with
my teammates here every day. You know, they uplift me.
I've I up left them and we get after it
and we have fun. So I wouldn't be anywhere else.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
Did What would your case be for Joel Plotonio as
a whole thing?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
He's awesome? Yes, I I I would say I would
vote yes. Joel's uh my guy.
Speaker 15 (34:33):
Pro Football Reference gives him some sort of percentage chance
in the forties.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Why, that's a pretty good chance.
Speaker 12 (34:39):
Huh, it's better than zero.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
It was not than that, is Clinton spetistically correct? Yeah?
Speaker 12 (34:44):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Do you think I think Joel should be in the
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Man?
Speaker 6 (34:47):
He's a beast. Do you think.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
Offensive lineman maybe overlooked sometimes in most.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
No, bro, I mean so ye, I mean, uh, I get,
I get, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
You know, Yeah, I it ain't the flashy plays, right,
but I think he uh is a huge part of
this team for so many years as far so I
think I think he has a good chance.
Speaker 12 (35:06):
You like Christy, they've been putting in your impressions in
Harold so far.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Oh my god, he's a beast, right mm I love it.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
I he's awesome, you know what I mean it It
builds a competition and we get that much better together.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
Uh, he's awesome. He's a great kid.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Last week, Joe said that.
Speaker 16 (35:22):
The offensive line was the one area of this team
that no one had to worry about.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
They're working really hard.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
What have you seen, cause you work so closely with
them in those drills, what have you seen from everybody?
Speaker 10 (35:31):
Like about the things that they do?
Speaker 9 (35:32):
I've seen the the uh intentional uh focus And I
mean like the intentional work that they put in. You know,
they they they do what they do because they want
to do it.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 9 (35:41):
Other people, I guess you know, i'm' I wanna talk
to other people. I'll talking about his us, right, Uh.
I just see the intentional work, the intentional uh actions?
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Do you did?
Speaker 18 (35:50):
You really have way so many years.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
To being able to also walk about used to be
a past catcher.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
How much can you help Harold sort of develop that
part of.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
This game as well, yeah, I'm gonna have him come
come over my house a lot more often. You know
what I'm saying, just just being around him, I feel
like it. Uh, it's just it's the energy, the but
they'll want to and that's really.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Like like the the most important yo.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I know you guys might have to be with uh.
Speaker 10 (36:13):
We know that you guys grew up to be Kenny
for at least a few days.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
How was Kenny coming along?
Speaker 10 (36:18):
And what were you seeing in Kenny?
Speaker 9 (36:21):
He's a a great player as well, you know he
he he's uh a great leader, you know, just like
the aura just of him being in the the huddle alone.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
It I it uh it it means a lot.
Speaker 12 (36:30):
It's a team David, What is there?
Speaker 18 (36:32):
Friend like having Joe Flacco back?
Speaker 6 (36:34):
You guys on Clago developed such a chemistry of twenty
twenty three? Hey, how do you do? Uh No, yeah,
Joe's my guy.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
I mean obviously, as you've seen two years ago, there's
not very much to say, you know, just I think
the f the the film speaks more.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
I don't know, say a couple of morning.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
I know you've been such a big part of this
offic since kind a guy here, but this year feels
like this question before you were asked, Judy, do you
feel like you're you're gonna be punted on passes?
Speaker 9 (37:03):
It's not just passes being caught that I'm being kind
of being held account for. It's just the energy, you
know what I'm saying, Just like I mean, energy is contagious,
you feel me.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Outside today in pads and just scream for no reason
and people will get fired up. That just just those
little subtle things go along way are bigger, bigger, look bigger.
I don't know, man, I'll be working out sometimes.
Speaker 15 (37:27):
How much you mentioned developing the want to Just the
last one for for a Harald is how did you develop.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Your want to be as a blocker?
Speaker 9 (37:35):
I would say being forced to be a third string
four or five years ago, you know what I mean?
Being you know, I guess quote unquote black ball as
they say, but no that that really just uh woke
up my my my drive, you know, or I guess
multiplied my drive, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
I wanted to do this because I wanted to do it,
and that was just that. That'll do it.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
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