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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is a results business.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
This game is about results.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
We know that, but I think you're doing yourself with
this service if you're not hyper focused on your process.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
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Speaker 5 (01:05):
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Radio Network. Nathan Zegura and the three time, three time
three time Super Bowl champ Jerrod Cherry with you for
another season of The Kevin Stefanski Show. As we get
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ready for pre season Game number one and the official
kickoff of the Cleveland Browns twenty twenty five season, Jerrod,
it is great to be with you as always, my man.
Here we go right pre season opener, a day of
joint practice yesterday. Before we get to that preseason opener,
let's go back to yesterday. What did you see out
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there on the field between the Cleveland Browns and the
Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Well, Nathan, I've been labeling a professional practice, and it
was that there was no animosity between the two squad.
It was very professional. Work got done and they took
care of business. That's exactly what you want to have occur,
especially in rainy, wet conditions because that's a recipe for disaster,
for slipping and falling. But they practiced very well and
got effective work in. That was a positive side of
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seeing the offense as well. Do is do and have
some positive plays, make some plays and get the job
done and not be dominated by the Panthers defense because
we've pretty much seen that that our defense has dominated
them throughout the course of training camp. The one thing
that I did not like though, and I'm pretty sure
you'll agree with me, was there was way too many
pre snap piloties on our part. I mean, Carolina struggled
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with it as well. But I'm not concerned about them.
I'm more concerned about what we do. So I saw that,
but overall, I thought was a good practice, effective. Guys
were focused that we just need to do a much
better job with the pre snap penalties.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Agreed.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, And that's the type of thing that really hurt
the Browns last year, right, It was pre snap penalties
on turnovers on offense that really kind of derailed, you know,
the Browns offense and a bunch of games. And so yeah,
that's got to be cleaned up, and I think that's
one of the things we'll certainly be looking at in
this first preseason game. What I thought really stood out
to me, though obviously Joe Flacco continues to look very good.
I thought Kenny Pickett looked very good in the seven
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on sevens that he was in. You know, but as
you look at this quarterback competition, Gerrod, You've got to wonder,
and I've said all along, I've been pretty clear all
along that I think, you know, Kenny Pickett was the
guy that the Browns wanted to be the starter. Week
one makes sense former first round picks still on his
rookie contract, and you're looking for somebody who can be
a solution. But when you miss two weeks and if
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he misses the week next week in Philadelphia, I don't
know how you can do anything else other than play
the guy that's been here every day and who's been
the best quarterback thus far, which is Joe Flacco.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Right, And that's a fair assessment of it. And also
added for Kenny Kennedy Kenny rather is that he gives
you that dual threat quarterback capability and the fact that
he's hamstrung with his hamstring that creates a scenario too,
or his strong suits and why you do like him
and say, okay, he can give us that RPO act
that's not going to take place because you worried about
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the hamstring. So, yeah, Joe has been effective. Joe has
made it look really really easy out there, and how
he performs and how he throws the football, and you
see clearly that he has a lot left in that arm.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah, he definitely can throw the ball. There's no question
about that. I thought he looked good. Jerry Judy continues
to be It looks like he is going to pick
up right where he left off last year in his
first Pro Bowl season. Over twelve hundred yards. He looks
ready to go to me, and I thought was one
of the big stars of that joint practice.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
He certainly was.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
And that one crossing route, remember they had over the
middle of the football fields, he catches it with one
hand and that's a touchdown. I don't think anyone's catching
him from behind. And the crazy thing about it I
found really interesting was that there are players with the
Carolina Panthers. They were talking smack to him and saying
to myself, all right, why do you want to motivate
a guy that's clearly motivated? And that's one of the
key things that you do concern yourself with when a
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guy has a career season, will he come back motivated?
And I'm convinced that Jerry Judy has come back motivated
and he's putting in the work. I see him and
catches after the practice are over. I see him running
gassers as well with other teammates, So he's certainly putting
in that work.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
He certainly is. He's doing a great job. And you know,
those were some of the highlights. The other thing that
I thought was really good and watching kind of the
way the fields were, I was able to watch really
everything on the offense. But then I was really also
able to watch kind of the defensive line one on ones,
and then our defensive line. They did some stunts in
some games. I thought our defensive line and those were dominant.
We saw that certainly in Maria. We considered just continued
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to see that against the Carolina Panthers. So I was
very pleased with that. And I thought our offensive line
in the team drills maybe not as good in the
run game as we would have liked. But you know,
that's something you have to go to the tape and
you have to understand what was the running back ass
to do all of those things that go into it.
But you know pass pro when you see it, and
our quarterbacks were kept very clean against the front of Carolina.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Right and correct me if I'm wrong. We're not used
to seeing that during the course of training camp, because
it seemed like every play or every other play, the
defensive line was getting in on the quarterback and it
wasn't even time too so up a play and throw it.
But that was not the case yesterday, by each stretch's imagination.
And there were some runs I thought were quality, true runs.
Had you run him in a game, Nathan were they
have been a positive big play as well. So I
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like what I sawt of fort In Samson as well.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, that was good. And I think the you know,
we've talked about it getting to go live. This team
went live for the first time in Kevin Stefanski's tenure.
They went live, and I thought that the physicality from
those live periods carried over and just listening to the
guys as I walked through, they really felt like they
were the more physical team. And there were a lot
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of times in the past and these joint practices where
that was not the case, certainly on day one, and
so I think to see this team have that physicality
and kind of have that dog mentality and to be
the more physical team, and I believe that they were.
Certainly when you put the tape on, I thought that
was a real positive sign for this team, because this
team is not going to win by spreading you out
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and throwing the ball five hundred times. We don't have
Joe Borough. This team is gonna win by being a
physical on defense, physical on offense, playing mistake free football
and winning tough, physical games.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Right and then field position with the special teams in
which you're taking advantage of that as well. But yeah,
it comes down to we call that trench warfare football,
where it's a cloud of dust and you make sure
that you make a minimum mount of mistakes and you
hold that other team down in the process and becomes
a battle of wills. And the only way to get
to that level of play you have to practice it.
You have to put yourself in the spot where mentally
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and physically you're preparing yourself for that gauntlet of a test,
because that's a hard brand of football to play on
a consistent level. In order to do that, you have
to practice it. So it was great to see that
happen yesterday and that it transferred from our practice field
in Barria to over here in Charlotte, North Carolina. But
the other part to it, to Nathan, because we'recall when
the Minnesota Vikings came into town last year, I felt
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we dominated that practice for the most part, and then
it was kind of first next day, Yeah, first day,
we clearly dominate it, and then we kind of got
away from that. What I'm looking forward to now is
seeing sustaining of that mentality this week against the Panthers
and especially next week how can you not be amped
up for that? But I won't want to get ahead
of myself. But the whole point is stay consistent with it.
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We have the ability to be that type of a
football team. It's just a matter of being consistent.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Right And next week you get the opportunity to have
two days. So if there is you know, if the
Browns come out and give it to the Super Bowl
champions on the very next day, guess what you're gonna
get everything from the Super Bowl champs. And if it's
the vice versa, if the champs get the best, you've
got to come back and bounce back this week in
the game. It's it's different. And Kevin STEFANSI you're gonna
hear I sit down with him earlier, sat down with
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him earlier today that you're gonna hear on our program.
Kevin Stefanski said that you know, what he really liked
is that our best guys played the best. And so
when you think about this season and where we are
before the first preseason game, your starters have gotten live
work this year, something that they had not gotten in
the past. And then your starter's got a lot of
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work in this so they've basically gotten you know, forty
or fifty highly competitive snaps from your starters, and they
were the ones who really stood out, whether it be
Miles Garrett, we talked about Jerry Judy. I thought our
entire offensive line looked very good. Mason Graham looked good, MALIEK.
Collins look good, Alex Right, Isaiah maguire. You know all
of those guys, Denzel war, the guys that you're counting
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on to be frontline players, looked that way in that
joint practice. And now you won't see them on Friday night, right,
you won't see them. But the main thing is get
that work in. And coach talked about it, and I
whole hartly agree. You need your best players to be
your best practicers. And the guys who are literally laying
on the line and showing away and giving guys example,
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this is how it should be and will be done
in this locker room, and this is how we're gonna
get down to business.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And if you have that taking place, then you start
to build accountability. Then you start to have a situation
where a coaches starts to form around the idea that
we don't want to slack and if we do Slack.
It's gonna be point out by the coaches and most
importantly by the leaders in the locker room. And if
you get that dynamic going, Nathan, the sky is the
limit for what a football team can do.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Agreed.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
And Now for as we turn our attention to this
preseason opener, the guys that will be there and the
guys that won't. Basically the starters, people who are starters
of consequence, that are veterans that are locked in, they
are not going to participate in this game. We know
Jerry Judy Etceederic Tillman, for example, at wide receiver. We
know Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel at
the quarterback position. I don't think you will see anybody
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on the Brown starting offensive line. I do not think
you'll see David Nijoku in this game. Defensively, I don't
think you'll see I think you'll see the rookies like
Mason Graham and Carson Swessinger. But you're not going to
see Malie Collins. You're not going to see Miles Garrett,
You're not going to see Denzel Ward, You're not going
to see Greg Newsom. I would expect that you would
not see Grant Delpit either, So who will you see, Well,
we know what the quarterback position. It will be Shador Sanders,
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currently fourth on the Browns depth chart, getting the start
this week because Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett are battling
hamstring injuries and are not capable of playing in Joe Flacco.
You don't need to see Joe Flacco in these situations,
so it will be Shador Sanders starting. He's had some
good moments on the field. We know that he's had
a big development curve, we know that he is working
hard at it. I think it's going to be very interesting.
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He's a gamer in my mind. The tape has always
been his strength. I'm curious to see what he can
do out there. Girod what are you looking for from
Shador Sanders?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
What you just said, Doug, gamer gamer. That's the definition
where you know some of the things you may say, okay, well,
delivery might not be exactly where you want to be.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Placer might not be where you want to be.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
The fine nuances may not exactly be where you wanted
him to be right now at this stage. But when
you step out on the football field, are you driving
up and down the football field, are you scoring points,
are you putting guys in position to see? And ultimately
are you winning football games? That's, in my mind a gamer,
and that's what I define him as. And I want
to see if that dynamic unfolds on Friday Night. I
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want to see if he stays at that seventy percent clip,
because if he keeps doing that, Nathan, that shows me
and I already know this on what I've seen thus far,
that he's better than the fifth round draft pick, and
we already got a still in that regard. But if
he can continue to do that, you can't ignore that.
You have to pay attention to that. And more importantly,
if his teammates see that, if they feel that when
he's on a football field, they're getting better and they
have a greater chance to win, they're gonna support him
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as well.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yes, this is I think this is obviously big for
Shador Sanders. I don't think that there's anything that can
happen between now and the start of the season where
Shador Sanders is gonna elevate to be the Week one starter.
I't I really think it's it's gonna be Picket or Flacco,
and if Pickett can't get healthy, it's definitely gonna be
Joe Flacco. This is an opportunity, though, for him to
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show this team exactly, you know, what he can do
and why so many people were so high on him
coming out of college. And he's gonna be with the
guys that he's been practicing with all year. People are saying, oh,
how can you throw him out there? He doesn't have
the starts. Well, he hasn't got replece starters. He's got
reps with the guys that he is going to be
out there with. And you know, some of the young
receivers Luke Floria and Gage Larvadan who have played well.
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Deontae Johnson will be out there with him. Harold Fannon
will be out there. So he's gonna have some pass catchers.
Is gonna have some guys out of the backfield that
are very talented. And you know what I want to
see is just the operation. I think people forget that
this will be the first time he's gonna have to
go in the huddle and call you know, forty fifty
plays right in the huddle. He's never done that before.
And that operation you mentioned the pre snap penalties we
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saw in that joint practice. That operation, I think is
job number one for Shador and then after that, once
it snapped, you go do what you do, deliver the
football accurately, make the plays that you make. You want
to get rid of it quick and not take the
sacks all of that. But I think it's just as
important that he can handle that pre snap part of
it as it is the post snap.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Right Well, it all starts there and that's where we
get into the find nuances of the game. It's not
like college. The difference, the great differentiator between college and
pro is that in the pros, you're in that huddle
and guys are hearing your voice and looking you in
your eyes, trying to figure out if you're confident, if
you have any cracks or shakes in your voice. We
sense it, we know it, we feel it. Hold up
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a card is one thing, but being on the football
fill in the huddle is a whole different. Diyydmic that
it takes adjustment time too, So he'll put his best
foot forward by overcoming that and showing people that hey,
I am that guy, I am that quarterback. I do
take command of the huddle and I am a leader,
and if he shows those skill sets again, he'll only
help his cause. And for the people out there, Nathan
who are saying that the Browns are setting him up.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
For failure, I ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I don't agree with it by any stretch of the imagination,
because in my mind, and probably in should do his mind,
he's saying the same thing. This is an opportunity anywhere
it goes, I come out on top. I'm getting a
chance to start. I was the fourth string quarterback. Now
he's not wishing any of his teammates were hurt, but
this is more rep than he could imagine he would
have probably gotten if Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel was
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still healthy and not unable to go. So this is
a great situation for him. Absolutely, this is an opportunity,
and I'll go back to it. Everybody who watched his tape,
who are very respected evaluators, everybody thought that was a
first or a second round pick on tape. He goes
in the fifth round. Are obviously factors that have nothing
to do with playing the game. Things that have to go,
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whether it's your preparation, your abilities to process some of
those things, and the things that he wasn't asked to
do in college, so he's been getting coached up. I
know he has taken to that coaching very well, and
this is his first opportunity to really show that and
to show everybody in this organization and everybody in the
world the Browns have done everything. In fact, I think
to try to help him along. If you have somebody
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that needs to ramp up, you don't just throw them
in and have them swim. And it's funny, you know,
you're not looking at people aren't looking at what the
reps of various other rookies around the league, and nobody's
really even in that concern necessarily with Dylan Gabriels reps.
That wouldn't be a story if we had three quarterbacks
in camp and it was Kenny Pickett, Joe Flack on
Dylan Gabriel. Nobody's even talking about Dylan Gabriel's reps. But
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it's because of Shador and the fact that he comes
in as a celebrity, the fact that his father was
deon the fact that he was incredibly productive at Colorado,
the fact that he was the leading passer in terms
of accuracy in the history of college football. That's why
it happens. The guy through for sixty four touchdo downs
with thirteen interceptions in two seasons at Colorado, guy who
completed seventy point one percent of his passes for his
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entire college career. People want to see that. And he's
Sdor Sanders, son of Dion, So this is going to
be that opportunity. And I think the Browns want him
to go out there and play well. I think that
that would be great for his confidence. I think it's
great for everybody in this building. So this is a
big opportunity, a big opportunity for him, and it's a
big opportunity for some more guys on this Browns team,
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which we will talk about later when we come back, though,
we are going to hear from the head coach of
your Cleveland Browns, Kevin Stefanski, about the joint practices, about
some of the players who have caught his eye, and
about this preseason opener when we returned to the Kevin
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Speaker 3 (16:52):
You know what I do appreciate. We got a bunch
of guys on this football team that really do.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Love to compete.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
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Speaker 5 (17:11):
Welcome back to the Kevin Sabanski Show contented by the
Browns VIP Tailgate. Nathan Segura joined right now by the
head coach of your Cleveland Browns. All right, coach, Before
we get into the preseason opener tomorrow night, let's take
a step back and look at yesterday in that joint
practice that was first opportunity to get some work against
another football team. Overall, big picture, how do you think
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that the Cleveland Browns did.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, I was really pleased with yesterday. I thought the
guys competed like crazy, which is part of this when
you're going up against somebody in a different color jersey.
So they did a nice job really on the offensive side,
defensive side, special teams.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Just of that effort that's required.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Was it perfect? No, that's what you know.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
We're chasing that perfection, but we can teach off of
some of the moments. But I thought our really good
players played really good. I think that's a great thing
for us as these guys are starting round into you know,
football shapes not the right way of putting it, because
it's not a conditioning thing, but as they round into
football form getting ready for a week one.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Well, one of the things that you talked about kind
of I think they want to training camp. We got
to you know, callous our minds, callous our bodies and
for the first time in your tenure here, and if
I'm wrong about that, correct me. But we've had multiple
live tackling periods, including one that was a twenty plus
minute period. So let's just go to the genesis of
that decision. How did you arrive at that point? And
I can tell you I heard and talk to multiple
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guys come outfield who are like, we were ray more
prepared for this joint practice than our opponents were.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Well, I would tell you we did go live previously,
but it was in COVID, so I don't know if
that Maybe that year doesn't count because there was no preseason,
so in our tenure, yes, we have gone live. But
I think the big picture, Nathan, is every season you
look at your football team and you try to figure
out what they need to get ready for the season.
And I look at what we've done in the past
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or haven't done in the past, and are are there
opportunities are things that can get our football team ready
for a week one? So thought that there were some
opportunities to change up a little bit of our practice schedule,
as you mentioned, and certainly the live part is a
part of that as well, and then going against an
opponent in week one of the preseason. We have not
done that before. So I think if you couple those
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live periods with an extra practice versus a team in
Week one, that leads to a lot of the decisions
and not playing the starters in the game versus Carolina
because they've gotten upwards of call it thirty six forty
plays in a live or very competitive thud period versus
another team.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Did you get the sense your players enjoyed it?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I certainly get sense that they felt very good about
where they're at because of those periods.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yes, and listen, we've all been around a long time
where live was just part of it. Used to be
just part of training camp, and there's been Listen, the
evolution of football is real and the safety and something
we take very seriously. Having said that, if there's opportun
unities to do it in a safe environment, and you
know I would point out is the guys we had
all those live plays and we didn't sustain injuries from those,
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and the reason is we had buy in from our
football team and our defensive players tackled up high. We
didn't have any low tackling. We didn't have any cut blocks. Obviously,
we didn't bring the tight end across and cut the
defensive end down. So I think there's ways to do
it and do it in a safe environment.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
So it was a good success yesterday, he saw what
you wanted to see. Let's talk about the quarterbacks because
all of them did get some work and we know
that we won't see Joe and then Kenny and Dylan
are nursing their hamstring injuries. But what did you see
in the periods that they were able to get.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, I thought they all did a nice job trying
to get everybody as much work as as we can
when we're down here. Obviously, Shadoor will get the majority
of the game, so he's going to get call it
fifty plays of game work work, which I think will
be great for him. I think Snoop will get him
in there later in the game as well. I want
to be smart about that with the fact that Ty
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just got here, so don't want to just throw him
out there. But if he's ready, we'll get him out
there as well. And then in the practice itself, trying
to make sure that they all get get their moments. Obviously,
Kenny and Dylan are limited by their injuries right now,
so they could really only do seven on seven and
if we put them in a team drill, it was catch, set, throw,
and get the ball out, not asking them to move
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too much.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
How about Snoop who was with you and I know
it was very well liked in the locker room and
certainly in the building last year in training camp, and
you get him back in here, sign him on a Tuesday,
he gets on a plane and he practices on Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yeah, I love him.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
He Snoop's one of my favorite guys, favorite teammate. This
guy just loves ball. I mean eats it, drinks it,
sleeps it. He just wants to spend every waking minute
in this meeting room watching tape. So it's been really
fun just having him back around. His energy is infectious,
and the kid just wants to be part of a
football team. And luckily we were in need of somebody
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that could come in and operate quickly. The fact that
he was with us last season, although we've evolved quite
a bit enough of a general understanding of our terminology
where he can go out and play.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Everybody's excited to see the rookies first preseason game gets
see him. You got to see them in the competitive
situation yesterday. But you know, from Mason on down. We
mentioned the quarterbacks. But Mason and Harold and you know
Dylan and Carson, how did they do in your eyes?
And are you also excited to see them actually play
football for the first time?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I am.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Now. You know, it's interesting because Dylan Samson has been
tackled it feels like fifty times in practice by our guys.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So I've seen Carson.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
In fact, by Carson, I've seen a lot of that,
So I think this first game is really a step
in that direction. Let's get them in their uniform, like,
let's get them through pregame warm up. Let's get them
some game action, but it's not an extended look. That
extended look will come later, but they've gotten a ton
of good reps in practice and in these joint sessions.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
When you look at kind of this rosters you go
through and maybe from injury, some of the questions that arise,
for example, in.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
The cornerback room, how big is this game?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
In your evaluation of Okay, we've got Greg and we
played Greg outside, we've played Greg inside. We know where
Denzel is going to be, but we need to find
that third corner. Is that going to be a nickel
that's going to keep Greg outside the whole time? Or
is that third corner? Actually do we like it? You know,
we go with the base, We have Greg outside, and
when it comes to the nickel, he slides back in
as he did with MJ.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
How big is this game?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
And really the next probably two weeks for that position,
So the find k who's cornerback?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Who's cornerback for?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And that's what training camps about the preseasons about it is,
while we're getting the team ready, we're also evaluating our players.
And part of an evaluation is putting them in the
best position literally to succeed. So where and you know,
take an offensive player, is the best inside as a
slot receiver, is the best outside as a tight end?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Hey? Do we like him inline or do we like
him more as.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
An f So that's the same conversation you're having with
a lot of your corners. Is this guy a better
inside outside player? Does he have flex? So I think
part of it with MJ's injury is we do have
to see what the best combination.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Is for our players.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Greg's football player. Greg could play inside, Greg could play outside,
Greg could play safety. In the meantime, we'll get them
some work outside as Greg gets healthy, and then figure
out our guys that we feel really good about what
they look like inside. And I'd point out two guys
in particular, Cam Mitchell and Miles hard And have played
for us and have played well and played inside. So
we just are going to continue our evaluation of them
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over the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
So these they'll play a lot then correct.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
One of the thing we always like, you know, the
Alburria guys, and I think certainly in the receiver room,
we had a couple of Luke Floord has made a
lot of plays, has look very good, created separation, and
Gage Larvindans consistently made plays as well.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
For those guys, this is.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
Kind of a real reward, right, an opportunity on a
big stage to put keep going forward like that when
you see these young guys that you guys are able
to kind of find and they're able to have that success.
Number one, as a coach, I'm sure that's got to
be somewhat rewarding. And number two, you know, what do
you want to see when with the lights on with
those guys?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
You know, I think the big thing and you're mentioning
the lights and it's true, and we'll actually meet with
the rookies about this very thing. You have to take
the practice field to the game field. What you don't
want to do is, hey, the lights are on, I
want to go perform. I want to go do something
different than I've done on the practice field. And that
would be the complete opposite of what you should do.
You should just take that preparation, all the work you've
done on the field in the meeting rooms and apply
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that into the game, regardless of the fact that they're
keeping score and it's in a game setting under the lights,
like you mentioned. But if those guys just continue to
do what they have been doing, they'll.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Be just fine. All right.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yesterday or we saw some field goals attempted at very
small uprights, but they weren't even straight. I don't know
exactly what they were going for with those up rights.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
They're called the skinnies.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Yeah, we've seen skinnies. Though we have skinnies, but they're
at least still upright there. We're very wonky. Nonetheless, Dustin
Hopkins was splitting these wonky uprights. Seems like he's had
a very good off season kicking the ball. What have
you seen from him? Because two years ago he was
so good, so instrumental in many ways, and our ability
to get to the playoffs last year not as good
from him. What have you seen and how confident are
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you that he can return to that for him?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah, I'm very confident.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And he's been with the team all spring long. He
committed to being at the offseason program, committed to getting better.
He's been incredible through offseason, been incredible through these training
camp practices, and then this is again the next step
for him is going in these preseason games and grooving
that ball and seeing that ball come off your foot
and make sure that your technique is where you want it.
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But I want to get him some opportunities in these
games as well, just so he can take all that
hard work that he's been doing in the offseason and
applied here.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
One thing we've been kind of searching for during your
tenure is a kick returner, and it feels like in
DeAndre Carter, we have one. For a variety of reasons,
they have never quite yet made it to the season.
We'll knock on wood that that is not the case
one more time. How do you plan to use him?
Because I know you want to get him some work.
At the same time, it's like we know the history.
We want him Week one against Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
DeAndre won't return in this game. He's gotten a ton
of good work in practice.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
He's a vet.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
We've seen he's a ton of reps on tape. So
we'll get him some work in games coming up here.
But this one felt like the right decision. Just take
a look at some of the other guys.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Has he shown you a little more, maybe even as
a receiver than perhaps we expect. I know he had
the five hundred yard season with the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
But he's made a lot of places.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, he's a guy that we really really trust. You
can put him out there really playing any position. You
know he's gonna do his job, do it at a
high level. Run his route, catch the ball, pretty simple
thought process. But he's a guy that we're not saying
is just a returner. He can give us stepth in
the wide receiver room.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
One of the things I think is always cool about
it when I observe you coaching is when a legend
comes back, you're always so.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Interested in talking with him. I loved being.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
A fly Wall when he came over and talked to
Bernie and I during that preseason practice. Well, you have
a legend back right now who's coaching the hof Joe
Thomas And really has kind of taken Dewan under his wing,
and it's been awesome watching. I know Joe's super thrilled
to be doing it. It seems like the Wand is
really thriving under his tutelage. That's got to seem like
a cool bonus. And now Joel Batonia said, you guys
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are trying to pull together a fund to bring him
in full time here. But what's it been like seeing
Joe work and work with a guy like the Wand.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, coach Thomas as we call him, is doing a
great job. Yeah, I don't think we can afford.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Him unfortunately, big rate, big rate coach.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But Joe's Joe is obsessed with technique. He loves technique.
I mean, he just he could talk it all day.
So we're we're just taking we're pulling that out of him.
And and certainly Dewan is a beneficiary. But I'll tell
you our line coaches are loving having Joe around and
just hearing how he talks about the game, the minutia
of that position. I don't think the average viewer or
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listener gets a feel for that and how much goes
into this these players along the offensive line. It can
look thankless at times, it can look you know, just
physical times, but there's a lot of thought that goes
into it, and Joe's desire to pass along his knowledge
of technique has been fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Got give me right next to us?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Give me?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
I think we need to find the clip. There was
a clip from Browns Daily a few years ago where
I asked Joe simply that the question what went through
your mind from the time the play was called to
the time the ball was snapped. He talked twenty minutes
NonStop about the checklists and now he'd get trell sugs
because of where his toe was.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And he used to drive to like just.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
The minutia for somebody that good and then to think
that they're also a supercomputer and it's nuts.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And again.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
All of that, what he's doing is trying to pass
that along to our young players. Obviously, Dewan playing left
tackle and Joe knows that position. Well, I think that's
we're so lucky to be able to have a guy
that can stand there talk to. Dewan has the credentials
that you know, there's not very few have in the
respect and it's been fun to watch.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
All Right, we'll get you out here on this one
because I know we like one on ones and I'm
sure you get in the film room after a joint
practice and there's some good ones.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Miles.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
The eurostep was pretty good, But did Alex write and
so great see him back Basically flipping a guy, a
human grown, a giant grown man over that had to
get you pretty f well.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
He did it.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
In one on ones.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He also did on kickoff.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah he did flat somebody alex Is. He's a no,
no fair dodge and he's going straight ahead and uh,
you don't get get out of his way. But that's uh,
he's got a great skill set. Great to have him
back out there healthy. But he plays the game really
at one speed. And you saw it the other day.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
For a guy like him, take Isaiah, Joe, try and
shrinko who's come in acquires looked good time. I mean
there's a lot that room has a lot of guys.
Is this a real opportunity and it's a rotation. Servey's
gonna play that's the way Jim does it. But you
know you're gonna get a little bit against the starters.
Like are those twelve plays where you see maybe guys
who are in that mix for a role. Okay, now
you're going against their starters. Is that some real good
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tape to try to pull out of here?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I think yes, it's all part of the evaluation. But
but you're exactly right, those those back up that end
position is extremely competitive and I like all those guys.
They all play with great effort, So that that's that's
definitely one to watch and they're gonna make tough decisions
for us.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
You know it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm
or you're excited to see your team play some football
tomorrow night. Coach, thanks for the time and best luck.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, thanks, Nathan.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
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The play by play voice of your Cleveland Browns, Andrew Siciliano,
catches up with Brown's rookie tight end Harold fannin all
along the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
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Earlier today, Brown's play by play radio voice Andrew Siciliano
caught up with a very impressive rookie, Harold Fannin Junior.
(32:34):
Take a listen to that interview.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
Right, Harold Fannin, you got real football Like a couple
weeks in training camp in the books, you guys got
the joint practice. But now, on the eve of your
very first NFL game, how are you feeling How excited
are you for this?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
I mean I'm feeling great, you know what I mean, obviously,
very excited to get out there and go out there
and you know, just play football again.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And yeah, I mean that's really it's really exciting.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Family coming, friends, anyone. I know it's the road in
the rain and Charlotte in the preseason, not a home game,
but anyone gonna be in the stands Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
No, but I know people gonna be watching.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
So yeah, have you thought about I mean, I'm guessing
you did as a little kid, but now the moment's here.
Have you thought about like running out of the tunnel
for the very first time as an NFL player?
Speaker 9 (33:16):
No, I ain't never really thought that far. But obviously
I'm here, so you know, obviously now I'm thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah. It's definitely gonna be a dope.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
Experience, anxious nerves at all.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Man.
Speaker 9 (33:25):
I'm just ready to go. Man, it's been a long wait,
you know what I mean, Camp, I'm just ready to go.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Did you get a little taste of it with the
joint practice?
Speaker 8 (33:33):
I mean, did that feel like kind of a little
bit of a move up in weight class at all?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
No?
Speaker 9 (33:39):
I mean it just felt like practice. You know, obviously
a game day, you know, everybody's gonna be turned up
way more.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So. Yeah, just ready for that.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
So everyone always says they have their like welcome to
the NFL wow moment?
Speaker 7 (33:53):
Have you had that moment yet?
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Oh? Where I was just like wown? Not yet, you
know what I mean? Hopefully I don't have it this
game either.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
You'll know it when you see it, right.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, most definitely. Yeah. Okay, So as.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
We get ready for this game, have you any idea
how much you're gonna play?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I mean, obviously we're gonna rotate and things like that,
you know, get all the guys in rep.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
But yeah, I'm definitely playing this game.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Yeah, okay, good, we're looking forward to that shot? Or
is playing as well? Same rookie class here? Have you
have you thought about what that moment's going to be
like for him? Pretty cool rookie quarterback getting his first
start on the road in the preseason.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean for him, I mean, that's definitely gonna
be dope, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Everybody asking all the questions and you know, I guess
tomorrow would be the time for him to prove it.
Speaker 8 (34:39):
You know, are you getting that like from friends and family,
like what what's the guy?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Like?
Speaker 9 (34:44):
Yeah, I mean everybody always want to know, you know,
about the quarterbacks of the Browns. But I mean Tomorrow's
just shot man. You know, I'm you know, I'm behind him. Obviously,
I'm playing with them. So we're gonna show it's.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
A shot for everybody here. Let's go back to the draft.
Andrew Berry said, do you play chess by the way?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Uh no, no, no, no.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
Well, Andrew Barry called you the queen on the chessboard,
Like the queen's the most powerful player on the board.
Go left, can go right, and go up, can go down,
could go diagonally. And he said that you're the queen
of the chessboard because hey, you could stand up, you
can go out wide, you can put your hand down,
We could put you in the backfield, you could run
the jet suite. You can do almost anything. What's that
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like when you get out there during training camp and
you don't just have like a traditional tight end role
to learn, You're you're kind of learning every bit of
the offense.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
I guess just like I guess like learning a playbook
might be a little bit distressful, But like when you
just whenever we just hide.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
The ball we play. I mean, it's just football.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
At the end of the day, I say, I guess
I'm gonna have to you know, stay a little longer
and get some extra work done, you know, just actually
know what I'm doing, how they want it done.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Things like that. But yeah, it's just football.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
The other thing he said is people.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Just assume you're not a blocker because you've got these
big stars. But most people say when they look at
tight ends coming out of the draft that they want
to see a willingness to block, right, Like, as long
as the guy's able to as I say, like put
his face in the fan, like, be willing to block,
then we can work with that player coming into the NFL.
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How do you feel your blocking game is going?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I feel like you described it perfect, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 9 (36:23):
It ain't pretty, but you know, obviously I just got
to get the job done, you know whatever, to you know,
help the team to win.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I mean, you have to line up against Miles sometimes
in practice.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Right yeah? Sometimes? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (36:35):
What's that been like?
Speaker 9 (36:37):
Oh man, you know, I just sometimes you sitting there like, man,
I hope you dropped back in coverage, which he never does,
but it's definitely a learning experience. And obviously he's better
than me because you know how great he.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Is what he doing.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
But you know you're not the only one, right, Like,
if he beats you, like Dwan's got to deal with it.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Joint practice yesterday, iky.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Akwanu, the Panthers left tackle who's a former top ten pick.
Like there was one move where like Miles Miles kind
of did a euro step on him and the dude
just whiffed. So, I mean, you're not alone in.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
This most definitely not. I mean everybody kind of just
got to experience it. But uh yeah, man, well Miles,
you're not really thinking about you know, you know, you
just really think I just need a hold up for
this amount of time. You're not really thinking about blocking
or dominating them in the past or anything like that.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
Harold Fanner, what said the tight end room been like
for you? What's David an Jok who taught you?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
If anything? So far?
Speaker 7 (37:33):
He's he's got a big personality.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
Yeah, I feel like just David h I definitely say
like it's or around him. I definitely just he just
kind of got to just want you to show your personality,
you know, just be yourself really and you know, obviously
working with them, you know, being on the field with
them is you know, it's been awesome. Obviously got a
lot of experience. So just trying to take, you know,
how he does his game and try to kind of
put that into my game.
Speaker 8 (37:56):
You're not going to totally walk into his shoes, so
to speak. You're gonna keep your shirt on walking around
the building.
Speaker 9 (38:02):
Right, Yeah, not not that far. Just saw a little
bit more personality, not that much.
Speaker 8 (38:07):
We'll hope to see some of that personality. Hope to
see maybe even in the end zone as well. Harold Fannin,
good luck in your NFL debut for the Browns against
the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yep, thank you, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
That's Harold Fannin with Browns played by play voice Andrew Sasiliano.
When we come back, we're going to take a look
at this game, the preseason opener, some guys who have
an opportunity to better themselves, the top position battles to watch,
and so much more when we return on The Kevin
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Speaker 10 (38:40):
Well, this is Joel Metonio and you're listening to the
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Speaker 5 (38:52):
Welcome back to the Kevin Sefanski Show along the University
Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network, and as always, it is
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Lakes Science Center. Nathan Dezagura and Gerrod Cherry and Girard
Tomorrow night, the Browns still have some things. I know
a lot of people are focus on the quarterback battle.
There are a lot of other position battles that are
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going on right now for this football team, not only
for the starters, but guys trying to carve out roles.
What is the top position battle you want to watch
tomorrow That is not the quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
It's really simple for me, Nathan, it is what's taking
place obviously, to Miles Garrett, Alex Right McGuire, who's gonna emerge,
who's gonna continue to step up?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Both?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I'll take it.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
I'm looking at that pan close attention to how those
guys perform, and you mentioned him in an interview with
coach Tefanski how well they've been playing. So that's appreciative
that they're getting noted in that regard. But I'm looking
at that, and I'm also looking at the receiver room
in particular Deontay Johnson. I think he has a great
chance to help contribute on this offense, Nathan, and if
he can make some plays, that's gonna certainly help his cause.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yes, I will. And then I'll give you another one.
I'm gonna watch the cornerbacks because outside of Denzel Ward
and Greg Newsom, it feels wide open to me. Cam Mitchell,
you know in his career, he's made a couple of
starts for the Cleveland Browns last year just one start,
but he hasn't been that full time guy. Can he
play man demand the way Jim Schwartz wants to.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Miles Harden, who only played four games for the Browns
a year ago and the seventh round pick out of
South Dakota. Nick Needham is a veteran who's got sixty
three games and twenty seven starts, but his last interception
came in twenty twenty one, only played in twenty two games.
Last year was on a practice squad down for Miami.
So there really isn't a clear answer. Cam Mitchell'll get
the first shot, Miles Hard and I think that battle
(40:39):
is important. And then on the outside, who's the next
guy up on the outside? Is it Chickaz and Usium?
Is it Tony Brown? Is it Keenan Eisen? Is it
an under after free agent Lamar and James. You know,
you look at this cornerback room and it's kind of amazing.
Denzel Ward's a first round pick, Greg Newsom's a first
round pick, Cam Mitchell a fifth round pick, Miles Hard
and a seventh round pick right after that, Anusium undrafted
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free agent, Lamaron James, undrafted free agent, Keenan Isaac, undrafted
free agent. Nick Needham was an undrafted free agent. Tony
Brown was an undrafted free agent, Dom Jones undrafted free agent.
We only have four guys in our cornerback room period
who are drafted to play cornerback in the National Football League,
So to me, that is a big one to watch, Drod, Yeah,
it certainly is. But the beautiful thing that we do
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have with those guys you mentioned they're undrafted sometimes, Nathan,
those are the guys you really appreciate because they had
to have done some amazing things to one make NFL roster.
So you know they're tough, you know they're gonna bring it,
and you know that they have a work ethic with them.
Because you simply as undrafted free agent and you make
NFL squad and you stick around four years, that lets
me know that you are a tough individual and that
(41:45):
you have moxie and all those things that are necessary
to play football at a high level to contribute. Yeah,
it's gonna be a lot of fun, a lot of
things to watch beyond just Shador Sanders. Of course, that
is the headline. We'll be back with our final thoughts
getting ready for the Browns and the Panthers, the preseason
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Speaker 3 (42:12):
Know what I do appreciate We got a bunch of
guys on this football team that really do love to compete.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Welcome back to the Coach Kevin Stefanski Show presented by
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stock up, step up. We gotta need step up in
game one. We just want to stock up. Whose stock
is up for you going into preseason Game one?
Speaker 6 (42:55):
As for me is Deontay Johnson. I love what I'm
seeing in practice Nathan that I love the fact that yesterday,
for example, the he can get the pass he put
did such a pretty move on a corner route and
I was like, good route dog. I had to give
him his agnolgen and his props even though he can
get the football. So I see him making progress. So
I think for him, the stock is up and if
he goes out there and performance well tomorrow, that'll only
help his cause.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
It will for me. Stack up, I'm gonna go, Alex. Right,
It's good to see him back. You know, last year
season cut short due to injuries. He had the big
sack down in Jacksonville that allowed us to get that win.
Finished the season prior to that with the sack in
each of the five and five straight games. So I'm
excited he's back. I thought he had a great joint practice.
Put a couple Carolina Panthers on their keysters. All right,
here's the lineup for Friday. Three o'clock it's Brown's Game
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Day with Ken Carmon and Gerard Cherry. Five o'clock it's
the Brown's Kickoff Show with Andy Baskin and Tyvis Powell.
And then at seven o'clock kickoff from Bank of America
Stadium in Charlotte with Andrews Ciciliano, myself and Gerard down
on the sideline. The preseason opener is here, folks. Gerard,
you excited, sir?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Is here? Dog. I can't wait to go. Let's get
this thing rolling.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Let's get this thing roll, and you've got a great
opportunity for Shador Sanders going to be one of the
most talked about, hyped up, and probably viewed and listened
to preseason games in Cleveland Brown's history and again kickoff
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