April 30, 2025 • 39 mins
Browns fans, this is the draft breakdown you've been waiting for! The Best Podcast Available team gives you a comprehensive look at Cleveland's 2025 draft, player analysis, and what to expect next season. And the best part? We sit down for an exclusive interview with exciting rookie RB Quinshon Judkins from THE Ohio State University! Hear directly from the newest Brown. Let's go!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What better place to be than be like here in
Cleveland or not, especially being a buck Eye. So many
fans from Columbus are Cleveland fans, and you know, gett
to meet so many different people throughout my time in
Columbus that are Cleveland fans and just great people in general,
and enjoy my time at Ohio State as well, and
just bringing that intensity and who I am as a
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player and as a person here to Cleveland, just who
I am as a Buckeye man, and that will live
in me forever.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
There are not many things about which I am certain
in life. However I am certain about this.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There is more.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Talented building once it all arrives, obviously to the Cross
Country Mortgage Campus. Then there was a couple of weeks ago.
The draft is over and we welcome you to the
best podcast available. We were building the Browns over the
last how many ever days, Jason Gibbs, and you know what,
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I like the new pieces. The pieces are not yet
fully in place. Wheels see them come Rookie Mini Camp
next weekend. But for now, I think it's time to
push your way figuratively speaking from the desk, and just go.
You know what, I kind of like it. Yes, there
will be more cameras in Beorea. I get that, Okay,
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I can live with cameras. Attention isn't always a bad thing.
But what is a good thing, Gibbe, is that they
added playmakers, and they added guys that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Can wreck the game on the defensive side.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Of the ball. Andrew Ceciliano, don't sell yourself short. You
are a tremendous slouch.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And you know what, I am short as well. I
would never sell myself as anything other than short.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I appreciate that. That's a hell of a comeback. That's
a great comp That might be the best comeback someone's
ever given when I've dropped that line. So they are better,
How can they not be better? I mean the amount of
hardware that the guys we drafted have won in college,
the accolades. David che I think we had it quite
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the weekend. It's been a while since we've had a
weekend like that when it comes to the NFL Draft.
And Andrew Berry, Kevin Stefanski and company made it a
memorable one from Night one all the way through to
the middle of the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And we will get to the middle of the fifth
round coming up in a second, this is best podcast available.
We thank you for joining. This is our post draft edition.
One edition already dropped a couple of days ago with
Mason Graham and his wonderful family. I enjoyed that conversation,
and I think Bron's friends are gonna love Mason Graham.
Even though he wore the Mazon Blue and there are
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some nightmares still in some scars, believe me, he is
ready to put on an orange helmet and to battle
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Coming up in a.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Little bit, speaking of college football and guys that I
know that you love. Quin shown Judkins the thirty sixth
overall pick, and yes, Gibbe, I ask him, will he
do an oh the very first time he gets into
the end zone, he will join this show as well.
I want to back up and start and this is
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not just going to be like glowing heaping praise, greatest
draft ever. I mean, there's some things that you and
I maybe don't agree with, and at the same time,
there are certainly questions to be asked about this draft.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But let's back up to the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And when we do this, I want to say give
a I will not give a draft grade. I said
this with Nathan and with Ken Carmen on was it
Monday Night? I've lost track of day's Monday Night this week.
I hate draft grades. Grades are clickbait. They are their
topic bars for TV shows where people scream, there for
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Twitter content.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You get my point.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Every team deserves an eye for incomplete because it may
turn out to be the greatest draft of all time,
may turn out to be the worst draft of all time.
Call me in a year, two years, really three years
to be safe, but for now, let's get it an eye.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Are you cool with that?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm fine with that. I do click out all of them,
though I did enjoy reading a lot of the draft grades.
I'm entertained by him, but I agree with you, there's
no way to know. It's the same thing with college
football and a five star recruit versus right, a recruit
that doesn't have zero stars. We have two of those,
by the way, that we drafted that turned out to
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be pretty good football players.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Here's a fun fact.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The first overall pick in the twenty twenty five NFL
draft was a zero star recruit. The first pick in
the second round, now a Cleveland Brown of the twenty
twenty five NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Draft, was a zero star recruit.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So there comes a point in which grades and labels
don't matter. What does matter is what you do on
the field. And we'll find out what this group does
on the field starting next week. And let's get to
the trade first. Give me You and I were talking
earlier in the day on Thursday, Draft Day, day one,
and I said, hey, I know there's talk of a trade.
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I would be okay with it under two conditions. Number one,
you don't go down that far like I said, six
was the floor, meaning where the Raiders were. And number two,
my second condition would be I want a one and
a two. Guess what both happened. Both can also be true.
I really wanted Travis Hunter. I did like he would
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have been so much fun. Fans would have loved him,
like me, Nathan, you, everybody up in the booth, like.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh my god, that would have been fun. But it
was a great deal. Both are true. In my old age, I've.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Just come to accept that I could step back and say,
you know what, there's a lot of value in both
of these answers.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And I like the trade, I really really do.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I think if I told Browns fans, if we
told Browns fan the morning of the draft, Hey, you're
not gonna get Travis Hunter, but you're gonna trade back.
You're gonna get a one into two, and you're gonna
draft Ashton gend I think they.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Would have had a parade.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What the Browns did is they traded back, They got
a one into two, and they got Mason Graham, who
is a damn good football player and absolutely one of
the top five players in this draft, and a defensive
force that will make everyone across the board on that
D line and that front seven, including Miles Garrett, more
effective because he does the dirty work and under this system,
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he's gonna get upfield with Jim Schwartz coach and calling
the shots. It's not the sexiest pick, I get it,
but go back and watch the pod we did with
him Browns fans, you will love him. This is a
very very good deal that will continue to pay dividends
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next year in twenty twenty six for that draft as well.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm not one to accumulate picks. I don't I like
making picks like I'm not here to go. Hey, let's
keep gathering picks and let's keep accumulating picks. However, when
it's an extra first rounder. Yep, that's a change, especially
when you haven't had one for three years. That's a
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game changer. Now you have three ones in two years,
when you went three years without one. First round picks
are impact football players. They're expected to start from day one.
You've got them under contract for up to five years. Like,
there's something to be said when you can accumulate first
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round picks. Oh, that changes the tune for me a
little bit. And it was an unbelievable deal. Andrew Berry
had to pull the trigger on it. I know that
all these so called football experts were, well, you're leaving
the best player. You know, you're trading away the best
player in the draft. However, the number of assets you
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got back in return offsets that. And props to Andrew
Berry and Mason Graham. You said it. I mean, he's
one of the top five players in this draft. That's
how talented he is. And frankly, we need people that
can stop the run and we need to get a
little rush up the middle.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, and guess what Mason Graham can do both both
of those. He can do both. If you really want
to go down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Our buddy Dane Brugler, Ohio guy who put together the
Beast and as good as it gets, covering the draft
for the Athletic this morning as we record this Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Already as his twenty twenty six mock draft, and projects
that Jaguars pick to be a top ten pick.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So there exactly, I mean, you know, I mean you're
hoping from our pick standpoint, we're not in the top ten.
Hopefully we're picking in the twenties.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh, he projects the bronze top ten two. But I
don't want a top ten. I don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
That's not the Poltale Brugler. Time to go on vacation.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Come on, now, there are a lot of let's go
back to night number one. There there's a lot of
online smoke, Twitter smoke suggesting the Browns are going to
trade again from five down to ten and that maybe
the Bears would have thrown in a one to go
from ten to five or whatever, and you could have
accumulated picks two things.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Number one, if it was a one, I would have
done that, absolutelyeping loutely. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Go from five to ten and say maybe take Tyler
Warren Colston Lovelin and get another one.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't want to spoil it for you fans, friends, listeners, subscribers,
and be sure to click subscribe. Countrymen, Romans. Gibe's going
to Rome soon. That offer wasn't there. Don't believe everything
you read on the twitters. It was not there. Didn't happen,
So that is all just imaginary. Get that out of
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your head. It wasn't there. The Browns stuck and picked
at five, and they got a very good football player.
Let's go to the second round. As I said, the
top pick in the second round is a zero star recruit.
His name is Carson Swssinger. Let's say it again because
he and I were joking, and that pod will drop
a little bit later as well, because we did a
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sit down with him. He said he has heard every
possible name, including a coach who tried to say it
in German, which I'm not going to try to mangle
like Scheisinger something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's swess endure.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Imagine if you do it fanatically, a jeer r at
the end Swssinger and he's a former walk on. And yeah,
Charles Davis and Nathan Zeger have legitimate questions Charles on
the broadcast on Friday, Hey, why did it take so
long to get on the field, Joel Klatt said, some
of it's political. But when he did get on the field,
that is on the defense, on the starting das senior year,
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he led the nation in tackles, he led the nation
in solo tackles. He got in the backfield a lot,
and he was a sideline to sideline linebacker that I
could tell you speaking to teams, other teams other than
the Browns, that a lot of linebacker coaches wanted. And
the Browns got him, and they got him at thirty three,
and people asked, well, why'd you take him at thirty three?
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Why did you take the back at thirty three? Why'd
you wait to take Judkins at thirty six. I'll tell
you they thought somebody else was going to take Swesssinger.
He wasn't going to be there at thirty six. Off
Ball linebacker is generally not viewed as a premium position.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Traded up to get one in Jahad Campbell at the
bottom of the first round. And you know how the
draft think the insiders work, and I don't need the
three guys at NFL Network. If the Eagles had traded
up in the bottom of the first as they did
and took Carson Swessinger rather than Jahad Campbell, believe me,
the praise machine for everything the Eagles do deserved they
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just won the Super Bowl would have been ratcheted up
to one thousand. The Browns got him, and I think
Browns fan's gonna love him as well.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, he's a great player. He's a great kid. Yes,
he's not a kid, he's a great guy. He yeah,
I mean he holds himself well. I mean he's unbelievably
intelligent something with bioengineering, I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Would you like the here it is?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Hold on Coach. We had Coach on the show last
night on Monday Night Recap in the draft class he said,
I'm not even going to try to pronounce his major,
but he and Jason Tarvor would have been classmates, or
Tarbor would.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Have been backer coach.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Jason Tarvor, who did his graduate work at UCLA getting
into coaching. He Carson is a bio engineering major and
he was a walk on. Bet on himself. I love
guys that do that. Could have gone to like Buck
Noll his high school in southern California. I wouldn't the
football factory, but it's got a lot of NFL talent,
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Zach sharbon A, notably you know of recent Vintage, among others.
Here with the Seahawks. He decided to bet on himself.
I like guys who bet on themselves, and he went
to UCLA as a walk on. His brother, Ethan played
college football at Cal Lutheran, which is where the Rams
up until a couple of months ago, had their training facility.
So he's been around the NFL and now he's now
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he's in Berea.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, and I just he's a guy that makes plays,
and I know, I hope that we can see him
and j Okay on the field together. Yeah. I think
he's also a guy that probably Jim Schwartz looks at.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
As a green sticker guy, a green doc guy meeting
green doc guy. He could be the guy getting the
call from the sideline and yeah, and run the huddle,
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I mean, I love Jordan Hicks, but Jordan Hicks has
battled some injuries, and before him, Anthony Walker battled injuries.
So right now Joka's battling injuries. You need some consistency
at that position, and hopefully with Swissinger, that's a guy
that maybe short seas as a future leader of the defense.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And the green dot guy and the green dot it's
going to be a little bit different this year in
the NFL. Guys like Carson s Questioner can adapt easier
because last year was the first year that you had
the green dot in college football. So the transition, and
this goes for the quarterbacks as well. Something to watch
for any rookie for the two quarterbacks obviously the Browns
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took two quarterbacks, is that this year's class will have
already done the headset communication thing last year in college football,
so it's kind of a new era there. I mentioned
Quinnhawn Judkins. He's the hammer at thirty six. I know
some people thought, well, what about Trevon Henderson. He's great
in pass pro, he's the home run hitter. They drafted
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their home run hitter. Later, they drafted the between the
tackles guy. I don't need to remind Browns fans about
how difficult it was to score inside the five sometimes
last year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Maddening, maddening.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You got that guy. Now you got a guy as
well that can close. Go watch the Penn State game.
Buckeye fans, remember how Judkins in a four minute offense
stole the soul of the Nitney Lions.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You need that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You still have Jerome Ford, who is look up his
explosives last year pretty damn explosive with sixty to fifty
sixty yard runs or plays from scrimmage. The Browns reworked
their backfield and they got a guy that scored fifty
touchdowns during his three years to at Old Miss and
won in Columbus. And we're gonna skip over Harold fan
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In for a second and give me let's go to
Dylan Samson there as well. Right, Dylan Sampson scored twenty
two touchdowns last year at Tennessee, a one year starter
in the SEC, and he's got some wiggle, right, I
don't know that he's truly the quote unquote breakaway speed,
home run hit or a turn on the tape. There
aren't many guys tackling him. I should ask Judkins, and
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I'm sure somebody will, or Dylan for that matter, what
do we call them like in terms of the backfield,
you know, thunder and lightning, smash and dash, sonic and knuckles.
What do we call this backfield.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I don't know what you call it. I call it impressive,
and I call it a significant upgrade for a team
that had a lot of trouble running the football a
year ago. That's no disrespect to Jerome Ford, because I
think there were a lot of things happening with the
offensive line, with the scheme, with how the offense was running.
It was a lot. Yeah, but you needed some things
to happen in the offensive line room. We still hope
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that Nick Chubb's gonna come back. I don't know if
that's happening, if that's possible. You know, you hope maybe
that he could come back and be the mentor for
these guys. But you have significant up significantly. I know
the English language, it's all right, it's Tuesday morning. You
have upgraded that position and you needed to upgrade, and
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you've got a change of pace, You've got the hammer,
and I think that that's a great combination. They've done
really well. Dylan Samson, I thought was going to go
second round, even third round, early third at worst, and
here you are with the Browns taking him in a
round four. That's a steal.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, he's a good football player, and again, not the biggest,
but he's not small.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
He played it over two hundred pounds a year ago.
He does have some juice, and he does have some wiggle,
and he does have some ability out of the backfield.
He caught twenty passes last year.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Neither of these guys were the number one guys out
of the.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Backfield for their team necessarily. But just look at the
combined touchdowns they get in the end zone. They scored
a combined eighty six touchdowns the last three years. I
don't need to remind anybody because you watched it with us.
We all were together in this score the fewest points
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in the NFL. You needed guys, And I'm not gonna
hammer Nathan for yelling weapons, weapons, weapons. Great job, Jessica,
it was. It was great, and he's right.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
He is right.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But you also need other pieces on this team. That
was just my view, like, don't limit it to one
side of the ball. You need guys that can score
the football, right. I know that's a basketball phrase. I'm stealing.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
They got that. And the other is Harold Fannin Gibbe.
I'll let you take the floor as a bowling green falcon.
You were wearing your bowling green Pin on Saturday. Have
you come down off your draft weekend?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I am disappointed everything happened with the big trade on Saturday,
and we never got him in studio, right. I didn't
get a chance to hang out with him a little bit.
I mean I did to sit down with him.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
He was great.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, when he was here on a visit. I had
some lunch with him, and he's a great he's a
great young man, and he's a guy that's come up
through the ranks CAMT. McKinley to Bowling Green and I mean,
you could say what you want to about Maction, people
are gonna go, well, it's it's MAC. It's still Division
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I one kids. Maction is still pretty darn big. And
there were a lot of kids from the Mid American
Conference they got drafted this weekend throughout all divisions.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And actually Darius Alexander from Toledo went right before or
two picks.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Before exactly so. But when you look at his tape
in the game that they played against Texas A and
M and the game that they should have won at
Penn State, right, like, the best player on the field
at one point was Harold fannin junior go to their
Bowl game and their bowl loss. Like you knew because
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guys had already started entering the portal and guys had
left bowling Green. Like he was the only weapon for
Bowling Green. You knew he was.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, he caught seventeen seven pieces in the bowl game.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, there was no one else. I just he makes
a lot of plays. His body type is unique. He's
twenty years old. He can't get into a bar. I'm
happy to take you out on your twenty first by the.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Way, which is right before training camp. So be careful
with that. Perfect Let me just read what Harold Fannin
did in twenty twenty four. So just a list of accomplishments.
First Team All American MAC Player of the Year, MAC
Offensive Player of the Year. First time a tight end
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has one Conference Player of the Year. By the way,
I don't mean in the MAC, I mean period. Let
me say that again. First tight end in FBS history
to win a Conference Player of the Year award. Okay,
finalist for the John Mackie Award, which is go you know,
an award. Silly season to the best tight end in
college football, the rubber Chicken season after wards to the
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banquet season. John Mackey by the way, Great Orange Man
with to Syracuse led FBS with one hundred and seventeen
receptions and one five hundred and fifty five receiving yards.
Both are single season FBS meeting Division one tight end records.
Led Bowling Green with ten touchdowns, had eight games of
one hundred yards receiving, tied for the most in the
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country with Travis Hunter thirteen games, twelve starts, and in
that Ventures Bowl MVP, he had seventeen for two thirteen
and a touchdown. And if you go back and watch
the NFL Network coverage, I recorded it. I watched it
when I got home. Their very first full screen in
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which they're showing bullet points of Harold Fannin's career. Played
his best against the best opponents. Like you said, A
and M and Penn State. Now, he did say to
me off there.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He did not grow up a Browns fan, though he
grew up right down the road to Camp McKinley and
war Brown's colors kind of sort of at Bowling Green.
That generation. And I'm going to age myself. He's only twenty,
you know this, Gibbe.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
A lot of younger people grew up in an era
where they root for players less than they root for teams, right,
because there's fantasy football, there's Sunday Ticket, NFL shop dot com.
You could buy anything on your phone, it shows up
on your doorstep the next day. You could root for
any team. So gibbe between you and me, he liked
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Le'Veon Bell. He's not a Steeler fan, but he was
a running back. Heck bowling Green handed him the ball
a lot. He kind of liked Le'Veon Bell. Not a
Steeler fan.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But I'm just telling you that's all right, that's all right.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Now he's here, Now he's in our building, and now
it's up to the pukers to try to stop us.
That's it. Good luck stopping that either way. And to
joke you on one side, him on the other.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Nah, okay, good sign yep, yeah, Will Howard and Jack
Sawyer as Steelers.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Let's get to the quarterbacks here, because we've done everything else.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
The Browns drafted two quarterbacks. They live with it. It
isn't the end of the world. They'll figure it out. Yes,
they're going to be more cameras, Okay, deal with it.
I do not view cameras as a distraction. I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
When you're out on the field, you're on the field,
the cameras, the media, they're there. It's part of the job.
If you don't think there are going to be a
lot of cameras with or without whomever they drafted a quarterback.
When the Browns go to Philadelphia this summer to practice
with the Eagles, the defending Super Bowl champions, there are
cameras there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
All the games are on TV. This just in okay,
let there be cameras. I am okay with it. Oh,
they're going to get asked about it. Yes, they're going
to get asked about It can sometimes I get annoying.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, it can be. I've had players tell me that
over the years. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I don't mean a certain quarterback, but any big picture
story that the screaming heads on TV talk about.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, it can get a little bit annoying. It doesn't matter.
Once the starts, it doesn't. And Gibby, you're there every day.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know that the football side of the building will
not make it or let it be a distraction.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Am I right correct?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I mean we were told it will not be a distraction.
At five o'clock on Saturday. Correct, we all got pulled
aside and said, hey, going like this is this is
the game plan? Like they're rookie quarterbacks, they're competing. We
got a couple veterans that are pretty good too, we do.
I don't know how it's going to shape out.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
If I want a dollar for every text or request
for radio interview that any of us has gotten the
last three days, we'd have many dollars and they all
ask the same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Who's going to be the starting quarterback? Guys, I don't know,
give me, doesn't know, We don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Let's just get through rookie Mini caamp and and figure
it out. I don't think Joe Flacco needs to practice much.
Body of work has been proven he is. He's a man,
he's forty. To quote Mike Gundy, I think he'd be
okay if you save his arm a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Kenny Pickett's kind of battle. Dylan Gabriel's got a battle.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Shad Or Sanders who touched down in Cleveland and is
not in Berea but in town.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
He is going to battle as well, and then may
the best quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
W Yes, that's it, Like what good news training camp
is gonna be a lot more fun.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I'm not a distraction.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
No, it's not a distraction. But like, no, I get
I get to watch four quarterbacks. I don't know. I
don't know what's gonna happen. I really don't.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I don't know Felid do it. Maybe Feeling knows he's
dialed in. But it's one of those that I can't
wait to watch it. I can't wait to see it
all unfold. And you're gonna do it against You're gonna
do it in two joint practices, Like you're gonna you're
not gonna play a lot of the guys. They're all
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gonna play in the games. They're all gonna have to
play in the game. They're all gonna have to play
in the games. The preseason got that much more interesting. Yes,
to your point, let's go to get him in the games.
And there's a joint practice with the Panthers as well.
For those who haven't been or seen been to or
seen a joint practice, you can't have ninety guys on
one field one hundred and eighty guys in one field,
so you have multiple fields, so there's a chance for
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more reps for all these quarterbacks to work them in.
And for those who say, what team ever drafts two quarterbacks? Friends,
It's happened now three of the last four years. Patriots
did it. Last year Drake Maye, Joe Milton. They flipped
Joe Milton. They got some value out of it now.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Joe Milton also is one of the reasons they're not
picking them one overall Week eighteen.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Thank you, Joe. But they drafted two quarterbacks a year ago,
the year that Kenny Pickett got drafted by the Steelers
twenty twenty two, Chris Oladokin was drafted there as well.
They drafted two quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Nita.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Remind you of twenty twelve in Washington RG three Kirk Cousins.
Or how about last year they didn't draft two, but
Washington took Jaden Daniels and then signed as an undrafted
free agent Sam Hartman, who wasn't just any undrafted free agent.
He was the bleeping quarterback from noted Aim also glorious
hair and a fantastic beard and does just for men
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commercials in his free time where he should if he doesn't, right,
So they had to name quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It is how about eighty nine? How about Troy Aikman
one overall? And then they came back a couple of
months later, and what do they do. They drafted Steve Walsh.
Just Steve Walsh, kids, look it up. He was a
big deal in the supplemental draft. Troy is still angry
about that one. I'm kidding, not really, but it worked out. Okay,
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but this is not unprecedented.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Oh we said it for a couple of months. Take
two bites of the apple, like the more, let's figure
out who's going to be the guy? Like, all right,
it just so happens. The guy you took in the
fifth round was a guy that many thought was going
to go in the top twelve, if not the top ten. Okay,
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were many people. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. And
Dylan Gabriel, our coaches can't say enough good things about him.
Like I heard they think they have something. Yeah, you
were there, listen. I could do an hour in Dylan Gabriel.
We can do an hour inhra door standers as well.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I'll just say this as someone who is not tall,
I have crazy respect for Dylan Gabriel who is. Don't
worry much taller than me. Okay, he's not six foot,
but no one has started more games nor thrown more
touchdowns in the history Division one football.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
The Dylan Gabriel, and he progressed up the ladder.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
He's not tall, played at a couple.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Of schools, and every school was bigger and the spotlight
was bigger, and he excelled at every single one of
those stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
He plays on time, he's accurate, his armor is stronger
than you think. You can roll him out of the
pocket and you can throw some lazers downfield.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It's not cam Ward strong, No, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
But just go turn on the tape and when you
speak to him, you're going to walk away going wow. Okay,
that's one of the most mature recent college graduates I
have ever met. Yeah, and I mean that, and that
is what shone through to the Browns and other teams.
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And I'll tell you right now, I spoke to one
team after the draft that said one of our senior
offensive coaches that was his favorite quarterback in the entire draft. Okay,
what does that mean, come rookie, Mini caamp or July.
I don't know, but it'll be fun. It'll also be
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fun with a remade backfield, including a guy who short
drive up the road to Maria from Columbus quin shot Judkins.
Congratulations man, welcome to Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I know, thank you so much. It's like.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
More than I dreamed of to be here in this situation.
It's a great place. Finally home.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You had to wait Thursday and then Friday. You hear
your name early when you look at your phone and
you saw them guessing the two and six or four
four oh up on your phone. At first, what did
you think? You know, what's so crazy?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I didn't see my phone.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
So I got up.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And I was like, I think the Seattle Seahawks had
just picked. And I got up to go get me
a couple of lemonade and get something to drink. So
I'm talking to one of my college coaches, Coach Blackwell,
and we were just talking about the kid that just
went to Seattle. The next thing I know, everybody screaming.
I'm like, like, who fainted? Who fell out? Like what's
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going on? So I look in the room and my
mom showed me the phone. She's like, just shake it.
So I grabbed the phone and there it was. It
was everybody in the whole entire staff in the room
from the Cleveland Browns, and I was so excited and
so full of energy and just was super like. I
was super happy.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Man. The internet thought, and I thought I was in
the bathroom. You were in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I was not in a bathroom. If I was in
the bathroom, how could I make it back that fast.
I didn't have my phone, but I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Though.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
My family found it hilarious. We were all just laughing, like,
it's like, he's in the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Mom did a really good job to stay there.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Shout out to mom.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Shout out to mom.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
She was so clutch, Like she answered the phone. And
I seen like it was on the post where they
showed the clip of her, like she answered the phone.
She's just like. It was so hilarious, man, it was.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And then Andrew Barry ab said, hey, because there was
so much noise in the background, he had trouble hearing you.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
That sounds that sounds like a pretty lit party.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, everybody was, like I said, man, everybody was just soppy.
All of my intermediate family, people that have gotten me
to that point, my coaches, people just from our community
really so many people that got me there, so they
were all there.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
What does it mean You only had one year in Columbus,
But what does it mean? It was a pretty good
year in Columbus, right way to stay in Ohio and
to stay with really kind of the same fan base
that has already wrapped its arms around you.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I mean, what better place to be than be like
here in Cleveland. I mean, especially being a Buck Eye.
So many fans from Columbus are Cleveland fans, and you know,
getting to meet so many different people throughout my time
in Columbus that are Cleveland fans and just great people
in general, and enjoy my time at Ohio State as well,
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and just bringing that intensity and who I am as
a player and as a person here to Cleveland, just
who I am as a Buck Eye man, and that
will live in me forever because of the things that
I experienced in my time there and what it meant
to me, you know, the culture, the brotherhood, all of
those things, and bringing those tools from the program here
to Cleveland, not that far down the road, maybe two
hours away, but still feeling like I'm at home.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I mean, you got a lot of buck guys here
in the building, as well. Saw dentzel Ward already right
when you're walking through the field house. What was that like?
It was crazy?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You get to see Buck guys like okay, like I
feel like you know what I'm saying. It feels the same.
So gonna see those guys be in the building, see
him working, you know, it motivates you as a player,
especially a young guy coming in seeing guys like him.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We've had a lot of success. I definitely motivated a
lot of time between now in September. I know you
have a lot of work to do. You're a humble guy,
but we thought about an oh, the first time we
get in the end zone at Huntington bank Field.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I don't know what celebration I'm gonna do. It's gonna
be a lot of different emotions. So I look forward
to feeling. I don't know how I feel in that moment,
but it would be some ecstatic for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Let's talk about the systems you've played in Lane Kevin
RPO System, Chip Kelly.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
They asked you put a lot more on your plate.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Pro Style system here Kevin Stefanski, Tommy Reese kind of
going back. The feeling is to what we hear. The
Browns here ran in twenty twenty three a lot of wides.
How have those two systems, two really good coaching staffs
at Ole Miss and Ohio State gott you ready for
what you're gonna face this year.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Just who I am as a player has helped as well,
just because my versatility man and playing in coach Kiffin's offense.
It's very fast paced, super fast tempo, really just using
the back in a lot of different ways. But everything
goes so fast where you can't be super like, you
can't make it too hard because it has to be
fast tempo. But then going to coach Kelly's offense where
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it's more so pro style and he's just that versatility
the back is insane. It was a lot of time
I'd be in the slot one on one with the backers.
You can line me up anywhere on the field. We
could change our footwork up on our wide zone, our
inside zones.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
We can do under it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Just with so many things you could do in that
offense that Coach Kelly had as far as versatility, that
I really loved, and I feel like that's why I
bring to this offense as well. You know, the pro style,
and that's why I fit into this scheme so good
because of the versatility that I am and what I
bring as a player, and I think that's why I
have a lot of success at it.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
A lot of people thought one of the reasons you
did leave Ole miss and go to Columbus you had
a big workload right down there, right you were able
to share that workload with Trevion most notably last year
Dylan Samson. The Browns took here as well on Saturday
from Tennessee. Obviously, I have Pierre Strong and Jrome Ford
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already here. I'm not saying backfield by committee, but there's
a lot of talent in that backfield. You're used to
splitting carries. However, last year, how did that work for you?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Last year went great?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Especially as a competitive man, you definitely want to be
surrounded by great guys in the room. Just go out
there and compete every day and be surrounded by great
talent and playing with a guy like Trey motivating each other,
being there for each other, two guys that are selfless,
the same mindset, his team first, who want to win.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
And you get to see him this year as well.
You know, Planetltriots planet Patriots. Maybe a little friendly wager here.
I know I'm legal, fellow, friendly major guy.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Of course, right of course, I think I don't know. Man,
We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
How cool is it? Last question? To see him go
right after you? A lot of people thought, by the way,
by an airy like you had to pick one or
the other. A lot of running backs here, just two
of the best happened to be on one roster, and
he went right after you.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Man, I'm so happy to see him get drafted.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
He deserves it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
He's a guy order, he's ordered than me, but he's
a guy that works hard. When I got there, he
had great leadership in the locker room. Coming back again
for his senior year just speaks about who he is,
who he is as a person, and what he stands for.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's what I really feel like.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I'll say it again. Welcome to Cleveland. Browns fans are
happy to have you. Can't wait to see you out
on the field. Q. Thank you, Thank you so much.
Brons Fans are gonna love Quinneawn Judkins. I know plenty
already do from his work at Ohio State. All right,
let's talk about the shirts here, because whenever they took
the Browns war room cam. You saw the shirts that
everybody was wearing. Gibbe is wearing one now. So the
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Browns made a concerted effort during draft weekend, all three
days to have as many people as possible on camera
and in the building wearing their community initiatives. And they
had shirts printed up. Gibbee, you're wearing the Stay of
the Game one. Okay, this is Brown's give back. I
(37:23):
have mine as well. I'd be wearing them, but as
I mentioned earlier, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm not a big person. The shirt's a little bit
big on me. And then this is the sanctioned Girl's
flag as well. Note the shape of the sanctioned girls flag.
And that was very important to the Browns, understandably, because
you get a lot of FaceTime during the draft.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
They want to give back. They want to be in
the community as much as possible. Obviously they are, but
they wanted to spread the good word. Gibbe with all
eyes on Brion.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, that was great. Everybody in the building wearing them
this weekend, you know, coach, general manager, front office, you know,
everybody in the building. Our whole content of production team.
Everybody got they're nice shirts, but the message on the
shirts are the most important thing. So the three major
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points of emphasis for our community relations are Browns Foundation, Renee,
Harvey Jenner, Takansik, two ladies that do an awful lot
of good in this community on behalf of this franchise,
in this organization.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Absolutely so with all eyes on the Browns obviously picking
second overall and then fifth overall and then the top
of the second round, it was important and we wanted
to reinforce that message here on the Best Podcast Available.
It's been fun, you know, it's also going to be
fun Rookie Mini Camp.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
We will see you.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And we'll have another episode of Best Podcast available after
it gave actually one leading up to it as well.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
We will see you next week. So on give Back
What better place to be than be like here in
Cleveland or not, especially being a buck Eye. So many
fans from Columbus are Cleveland fans, and you know, gett
to meet so many different people throughout my time in
Columbus that are Cleveland fans and just great people in general,
and enjoy my time at Ohio State as well, and
just bringing that intensity and who I am as a
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player and as a person here to Cleveland, just who
I am as a Buckeye man, and that will live
in me forever.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
There are not many things about which I am certain
in life. However I am certain about this.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
There is more.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Talented building once it all arrives, obviously to the Cross
Country Mortgage Campus. Then there was a couple of weeks ago.
The draft is over and we welcome you to the
best podcast available. We were building the Browns over the
last how many ever days, Jason Gibbs, and you know what,
(00:55):
I like the new pieces. The pieces are not yet
fully in place. Wheels see them come Rookie Mini Camp
next weekend. But for now, I think it's time to
push your way figuratively speaking from the desk, and just go.
You know what, I kind of like it. Yes, there
will be more cameras in Beorea. I get that, Okay,
(01:18):
I can live with cameras. Attention isn't always a bad thing.
But what is a good thing, Gibbe, is that they
added playmakers, and they added guys that.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Can wreck the game on the defensive side.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Of the ball. Andrew Ceciliano, don't sell yourself short. You
are a tremendous slouch.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And you know what, I am short as well. I
would never sell myself as anything other than short.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I appreciate that. That's a hell of a comeback. That's
a great comp That might be the best comeback someone's
ever given when I've dropped that line. So they are better,
How can they not be better? I mean the amount of
hardware that the guys we drafted have won in college,
the accolades. David che I think we had it quite
(02:03):
the weekend. It's been a while since we've had a
weekend like that when it comes to the NFL Draft.
And Andrew Berry, Kevin Stefanski and company made it a
memorable one from Night one all the way through to
the middle of the fifth round.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
And we will get to the middle of the fifth
round coming up in a second, this is best podcast available.
We thank you for joining. This is our post draft edition.
One edition already dropped a couple of days ago with
Mason Graham and his wonderful family. I enjoyed that conversation,
and I think Bron's friends are gonna love Mason Graham.
Even though he wore the Mazon Blue and there are
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some nightmares still in some scars, believe me, he is
ready to put on an orange helmet and to battle
for you.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Coming up in a.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Little bit, speaking of college football and guys that I
know that you love. Quin shown Judkins the thirty sixth
overall pick, and yes, Gibbe, I ask him, will he
do an oh the very first time he gets into
the end zone, he will join this show as well.
I want to back up and start and this is
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not just going to be like glowing heaping praise, greatest
draft ever. I mean, there's some things that you and
I maybe don't agree with, and at the same time,
there are certainly questions to be asked about this draft.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But let's back up to the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
And when we do this, I want to say give
a I will not give a draft grade. I said
this with Nathan and with Ken Carmen on was it
Monday Night? I've lost track of day's Monday Night this week.
I hate draft grades. Grades are clickbait. They are their
topic bars for TV shows where people scream, there for
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Twitter content.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
You get my point.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Every team deserves an eye for incomplete because it may
turn out to be the greatest draft of all time,
may turn out to be the worst draft of all time.
Call me in a year, two years, really three years
to be safe, but for now, let's get it an eye.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Are you cool with that?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I'm fine with that. I do click out all of them,
though I did enjoy reading a lot of the draft grades.
I'm entertained by him, but I agree with you, there's
no way to know. It's the same thing with college
football and a five star recruit versus right, a recruit
that doesn't have zero stars. We have two of those,
by the way, that we drafted that turned out to
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be pretty good football players.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Here's a fun fact.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The first overall pick in the twenty twenty five NFL
draft was a zero star recruit. The first pick in
the second round, now a Cleveland Brown of the twenty
twenty five NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Draft, was a zero star recruit.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
So there comes a point in which grades and labels
don't matter. What does matter is what you do on
the field. And we'll find out what this group does
on the field starting next week. And let's get to
the trade first. Give me You and I were talking
earlier in the day on Thursday, Draft Day, day one,
and I said, hey, I know there's talk of a trade.
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I would be okay with it under two conditions. Number one,
you don't go down that far like I said, six
was the floor, meaning where the Raiders were. And number two,
my second condition would be I want a one and
a two. Guess what both happened. Both can also be true.
I really wanted Travis Hunter. I did like he would
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have been so much fun. Fans would have loved him,
like me, Nathan, you, everybody up in the booth, like.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Oh my god, that would have been fun. But it
was a great deal. Both are true. In my old age, I've.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Just come to accept that I could step back and say,
you know what, there's a lot of value in both
of these answers.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And I like the trade, I really really do.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I think if I told Browns fans, if we
told Browns fan the morning of the draft, Hey, you're
not gonna get Travis Hunter, but you're gonna trade back.
You're gonna get a one into two, and you're gonna
draft Ashton gend I think they.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Would have had a parade.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What the Browns did is they traded back, They got
a one into two, and they got Mason Graham, who
is a damn good football player and absolutely one of
the top five players in this draft, and a defensive
force that will make everyone across the board on that
D line and that front seven, including Miles Garrett, more
effective because he does the dirty work and under this system,
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he's gonna get upfield with Jim Schwartz coach and calling
the shots. It's not the sexiest pick, I get it,
but go back and watch the pod we did with
him Browns fans, you will love him. This is a
very very good deal that will continue to pay dividends
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next year in twenty twenty six for that draft as well.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm not one to accumulate picks. I don't I like
making picks like I'm not here to go. Hey, let's
keep gathering picks and let's keep accumulating picks. However, when
it's an extra first rounder. Yep, that's a change, especially
when you haven't had one for three years. That's a
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game changer. Now you have three ones in two years,
when you went three years without one. First round picks
are impact football players. They're expected to start from day one.
You've got them under contract for up to five years. Like,
there's something to be said when you can accumulate first
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round picks. Oh, that changes the tune for me a
little bit. And it was an unbelievable deal. Andrew Berry
had to pull the trigger on it. I know that
all these so called football experts were, well, you're leaving
the best player. You know, you're trading away the best
player in the draft. However, the number of assets you
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got back in return offsets that. And props to Andrew
Berry and Mason Graham. You said it. I mean, he's
one of the top five players in this draft. That's
how talented he is. And frankly, we need people that
can stop the run and we need to get a
little rush up the middle.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, and guess what Mason Graham can do both both
of those. He can do both. If you really want
to go down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Our buddy Dane Brugler, Ohio guy who put together the
Beast and as good as it gets, covering the draft
for the Athletic this morning as we record this Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Already as his twenty twenty six mock draft, and projects
that Jaguars pick to be a top ten pick.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So there exactly, I mean, you know, I mean you're
hoping from our pick standpoint, we're not in the top ten.
Hopefully we're picking in the twenties.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh, he projects the bronze top ten two. But I
don't want a top ten. I don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
That's not the Poltale Brugler. Time to go on vacation.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Come on, now, there are a lot of let's go
back to night number one. There there's a lot of
online smoke, Twitter smoke suggesting the Browns are going to
trade again from five down to ten and that maybe
the Bears would have thrown in a one to go
from ten to five or whatever, and you could have
accumulated picks two things.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Number one, if it was a one, I would have
done that, absolutelyeping loutely. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Go from five to ten and say maybe take Tyler
Warren Colston Lovelin and get another one.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, sign me up.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I don't want to spoil it for you fans, friends, listeners, subscribers,
and be sure to click subscribe. Countrymen, Romans. Gibe's going
to Rome soon. That offer wasn't there. Don't believe everything
you read on the twitters. It was not there. Didn't happen,
So that is all just imaginary. Get that out of
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your head. It wasn't there. The Browns stuck and picked
at five, and they got a very good football player.
Let's go to the second round. As I said, the
top pick in the second round is a zero star recruit.
His name is Carson Swssinger. Let's say it again because
he and I were joking, and that pod will drop
a little bit later as well, because we did a
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sit down with him. He said he has heard every
possible name, including a coach who tried to say it
in German, which I'm not going to try to mangle
like Scheisinger something like that.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's swess endure.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Imagine if you do it fanatically, a jeer r at
the end Swssinger and he's a former walk on. And yeah,
Charles Davis and Nathan Zeger have legitimate questions Charles on
the broadcast on Friday, Hey, why did it take so
long to get on the field, Joel Klatt said, some
of it's political. But when he did get on the field,
that is on the defense, on the starting das senior year,
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he led the nation in tackles, he led the nation
in solo tackles. He got in the backfield a lot,
and he was a sideline to sideline linebacker that I
could tell you speaking to teams, other teams other than
the Browns, that a lot of linebacker coaches wanted. And
the Browns got him, and they got him at thirty three,
and people asked, well, why'd you take him at thirty three?
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Why did you take the back at thirty three? Why'd
you wait to take Judkins at thirty six. I'll tell
you they thought somebody else was going to take Swesssinger.
He wasn't going to be there at thirty six. Off
Ball linebacker is generally not viewed as a premium position.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Well, the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Traded up to get one in Jahad Campbell at the
bottom of the first round. And you know how the
draft think the insiders work, and I don't need the
three guys at NFL Network. If the Eagles had traded
up in the bottom of the first as they did
and took Carson Swessinger rather than Jahad Campbell, believe me,
the praise machine for everything the Eagles do deserved they
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just won the Super Bowl would have been ratcheted up
to one thousand. The Browns got him, and I think
Browns fan's gonna love him as well.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, he's a great player. He's a great kid. Yes,
he's not a kid, he's a great guy. He yeah,
I mean he holds himself well. I mean he's unbelievably
intelligent something with bioengineering, I believe.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Would you like the here it is?
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Hold on Coach. We had Coach on the show last
night on Monday Night Recap in the draft class he said,
I'm not even going to try to pronounce his major,
but he and Jason Tarvor would have been classmates, or
Tarbor would.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Have been backer coach.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Jason Tarvor, who did his graduate work at UCLA getting
into coaching. He Carson is a bio engineering major and
he was a walk on. Bet on himself. I love
guys that do that. Could have gone to like Buck
Noll his high school in southern California. I wouldn't the
football factory, but it's got a lot of NFL talent,
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Zach sharbon A, notably you know of recent Vintage, among others.
Here with the Seahawks. He decided to bet on himself.
I like guys who bet on themselves, and he went
to UCLA as a walk on. His brother, Ethan played
college football at Cal Lutheran, which is where the Rams
up until a couple of months ago, had their training facility.
So he's been around the NFL and now he's now
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he's in Berea.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, and I just he's a guy that makes plays,
and I know, I hope that we can see him
and j Okay on the field together. Yeah. I think
he's also a guy that probably Jim Schwartz looks at.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
As a green sticker guy, a green doc guy meeting
green doc guy. He could be the guy getting the
call from the sideline and yeah, and run the huddle,
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
I mean, I love Jordan Hicks, but Jordan Hicks has
battled some injuries, and before him, Anthony Walker battled injuries.
So right now Joka's battling injuries. You need some consistency
at that position, and hopefully with Swissinger, that's a guy
that maybe short seas as a future leader of the defense.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And the green dot guy and the green dot it's
going to be a little bit different this year in
the NFL. Guys like Carson s Questioner can adapt easier
because last year was the first year that you had
the green dot in college football. So the transition, and
this goes for the quarterbacks as well. Something to watch
for any rookie for the two quarterbacks obviously the Browns
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took two quarterbacks, is that this year's class will have
already done the headset communication thing last year in college football,
so it's kind of a new era there. I mentioned
Quinnhawn Judkins. He's the hammer at thirty six. I know
some people thought, well, what about Trevon Henderson. He's great
in pass pro, he's the home run hitter. They drafted
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their home run hitter. Later, they drafted the between the
tackles guy. I don't need to remind Browns fans about
how difficult it was to score inside the five sometimes
last year.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Maddening, maddening.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
You got that guy. Now you got a guy as
well that can close. Go watch the Penn State game.
Buckeye fans, remember how Judkins in a four minute offense
stole the soul of the Nitney Lions.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
You need that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
You still have Jerome Ford, who is look up his
explosives last year pretty damn explosive with sixty to fifty
sixty yard runs or plays from scrimmage. The Browns reworked
their backfield and they got a guy that scored fifty
touchdowns during his three years to at Old Miss and
won in Columbus. And we're gonna skip over Harold fan
(15:43):
In for a second and give me let's go to
Dylan Samson there as well. Right, Dylan Sampson scored twenty
two touchdowns last year at Tennessee, a one year starter
in the SEC, and he's got some wiggle, right, I
don't know that he's truly the quote unquote breakaway speed,
home run hit or a turn on the tape. There
aren't many guys tackling him. I should ask Judkins, and
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I'm sure somebody will, or Dylan for that matter, what
do we call them like in terms of the backfield,
you know, thunder and lightning, smash and dash, sonic and knuckles.
What do we call this backfield.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I don't know what you call it. I call it impressive,
and I call it a significant upgrade for a team
that had a lot of trouble running the football a
year ago. That's no disrespect to Jerome Ford, because I
think there were a lot of things happening with the
offensive line, with the scheme, with how the offense was running.
It was a lot. Yeah, but you needed some things
to happen in the offensive line room. We still hope
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that Nick Chubb's gonna come back. I don't know if
that's happening, if that's possible. You know, you hope maybe
that he could come back and be the mentor for
these guys. But you have significant up significantly. I know
the English language, it's all right, it's Tuesday morning. You
have upgraded that position and you needed to upgrade, and
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you've got a change of pace, You've got the hammer,
and I think that that's a great combination. They've done
really well. Dylan Samson, I thought was going to go
second round, even third round, early third at worst, and
here you are with the Browns taking him in a
round four. That's a steal.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah, he's a good football player, and again, not the biggest,
but he's not small.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
He played it over two hundred pounds a year ago.
He does have some juice, and he does have some wiggle,
and he does have some ability out of the backfield.
He caught twenty passes last year.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Neither of these guys were the number one guys out
of the.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Backfield for their team necessarily. But just look at the
combined touchdowns they get in the end zone. They scored
a combined eighty six touchdowns the last three years. I
don't need to remind anybody because you watched it with us.
We all were together in this score the fewest points
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in the NFL. You needed guys, And I'm not gonna
hammer Nathan for yelling weapons, weapons, weapons. Great job, Jessica,
it was. It was great, and he's right.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
He is right.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
But you also need other pieces on this team. That
was just my view, like, don't limit it to one
side of the ball. You need guys that can score
the football, right. I know that's a basketball phrase. I'm stealing.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
They got that. And the other is Harold Fannin Gibbe.
I'll let you take the floor as a bowling green falcon.
You were wearing your bowling green Pin on Saturday. Have
you come down off your draft weekend?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I am disappointed everything happened with the big trade on Saturday,
and we never got him in studio, right. I didn't
get a chance to hang out with him a little bit.
I mean I did to sit down with him.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
He was great.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, when he was here on a visit. I had
some lunch with him, and he's a great he's a
great young man, and he's a guy that's come up
through the ranks CAMT. McKinley to Bowling Green and I mean,
you could say what you want to about Maction, people
are gonna go, well, it's it's MAC. It's still Division
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I one kids. Maction is still pretty darn big. And
there were a lot of kids from the Mid American
Conference they got drafted this weekend throughout all divisions.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And actually Darius Alexander from Toledo went right before or
two picks.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Before exactly so. But when you look at his tape
in the game that they played against Texas A and
M and the game that they should have won at
Penn State, right, like, the best player on the field
at one point was Harold fannin junior go to their
Bowl game and their bowl loss. Like you knew because
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guys had already started entering the portal and guys had
left bowling Green. Like he was the only weapon for
Bowling Green. You knew he was.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, he caught seventeen seven pieces in the bowl game.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, there was no one else. I just he makes
a lot of plays. His body type is unique. He's
twenty years old. He can't get into a bar. I'm
happy to take you out on your twenty first by the.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Way, which is right before training camp. So be careful
with that. Perfect Let me just read what Harold Fannin
did in twenty twenty four. So just a list of accomplishments.
First Team All American MAC Player of the Year, MAC
Offensive Player of the Year. First time a tight end
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has one Conference Player of the Year. By the way,
I don't mean in the MAC, I mean period. Let
me say that again. First tight end in FBS history
to win a Conference Player of the Year award. Okay,
finalist for the John Mackie Award, which is go you know,
an award. Silly season to the best tight end in
college football, the rubber Chicken season after wards to the
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banquet season. John Mackey by the way, Great Orange Man
with to Syracuse led FBS with one hundred and seventeen
receptions and one five hundred and fifty five receiving yards.
Both are single season FBS meeting Division one tight end records.
Led Bowling Green with ten touchdowns, had eight games of
one hundred yards receiving, tied for the most in the
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country with Travis Hunter thirteen games, twelve starts, and in
that Ventures Bowl MVP, he had seventeen for two thirteen
and a touchdown. And if you go back and watch
the NFL Network coverage, I recorded it. I watched it
when I got home. Their very first full screen in
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which they're showing bullet points of Harold Fannin's career. Played
his best against the best opponents. Like you said, A
and M and Penn State. Now, he did say to
me off there.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
He did not grow up a Browns fan, though he
grew up right down the road to Camp McKinley and
war Brown's colors kind of sort of at Bowling Green.
That generation. And I'm going to age myself. He's only twenty,
you know this, Gibbe.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
A lot of younger people grew up in an era
where they root for players less than they root for teams, right,
because there's fantasy football, there's Sunday Ticket, NFL shop dot com.
You could buy anything on your phone, it shows up
on your doorstep the next day. You could root for
any team. So gibbe between you and me, he liked
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Le'Veon Bell. He's not a Steeler fan, but he was
a running back. Heck bowling Green handed him the ball
a lot. He kind of liked Le'Veon Bell. Not a
Steeler fan.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
But I'm just telling you that's all right, that's all right.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Now he's here, Now he's in our building, and now
it's up to the pukers to try to stop us.
That's it. Good luck stopping that either way. And to
joke you on one side, him on the other.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Nah, okay, good sign yep, yeah, Will Howard and Jack
Sawyer as Steelers.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm still trying to wrap my head around that.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
All right.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Let's get to the quarterbacks here, because we've done everything else.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
The Browns drafted two quarterbacks. They live with it. It
isn't the end of the world. They'll figure it out. Yes,
they're going to be more cameras, Okay, deal with it.
I do not view cameras as a distraction. I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
When you're out on the field, you're on the field,
the cameras, the media, they're there. It's part of the job.
If you don't think there are going to be a
lot of cameras with or without whomever they drafted a quarterback.
When the Browns go to Philadelphia this summer to practice
with the Eagles, the defending Super Bowl champions, there are
cameras there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
All the games are on TV. This just in okay,
let there be cameras. I am okay with it. Oh,
they're going to get asked about it. Yes, they're going
to get asked about It can sometimes I get annoying.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, it can be. I've had players tell me that
over the years. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I don't mean a certain quarterback, but any big picture
story that the screaming heads on TV talk about.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Yeah, it can get a little bit annoying. It doesn't matter.
Once the starts, it doesn't. And Gibby, you're there every day.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
You know that the football side of the building will
not make it or let it be a distraction.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Am I right correct?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
I mean we were told it will not be a distraction.
At five o'clock on Saturday. Correct, we all got pulled
aside and said, hey, going like this is this is
the game plan? Like they're rookie quarterbacks, they're competing. We
got a couple veterans that are pretty good too, we do.
I don't know how it's going to shape out.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
If I want a dollar for every text or request
for radio interview that any of us has gotten the
last three days, we'd have many dollars and they all
ask the same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Who's going to be the starting quarterback? Guys, I don't know,
give me, doesn't know, We don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Let's just get through rookie Mini caamp and and figure
it out. I don't think Joe Flacco needs to practice much.
Body of work has been proven he is. He's a man,
he's forty. To quote Mike Gundy, I think he'd be
okay if you save his arm a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Kenny Pickett's kind of battle. Dylan Gabriel's got a battle.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Shad Or Sanders who touched down in Cleveland and is
not in Berea but in town.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
He is going to battle as well, and then may
the best quarterback.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
W Yes, that's it, Like what good news training camp
is gonna be a lot more fun.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I'm not a distraction.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
No, it's not a distraction. But like, no, I get
I get to watch four quarterbacks. I don't know. I
don't know what's gonna happen. I really don't.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
You don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I don't know Felid do it. Maybe Feeling knows he's
dialed in. But it's one of those that I can't
wait to watch it. I can't wait to see it
all unfold. And you're gonna do it against You're gonna
do it in two joint practices, Like you're gonna you're
not gonna play a lot of the guys. They're all
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gonna play in the games. They're all gonna have to
play in the game. They're all gonna have to play
in the games. The preseason got that much more interesting. Yes,
to your point, let's go to get him in the games.
And there's a joint practice with the Panthers as well.
For those who haven't been or seen been to or
seen a joint practice, you can't have ninety guys on
one field one hundred and eighty guys in one field,
so you have multiple fields, so there's a chance for
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more reps for all these quarterbacks to work them in.
And for those who say, what team ever drafts two quarterbacks? Friends,
It's happened now three of the last four years. Patriots
did it. Last year Drake Maye, Joe Milton. They flipped
Joe Milton. They got some value out of it now.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Joe Milton also is one of the reasons they're not
picking them one overall Week eighteen.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Thank you, Joe. But they drafted two quarterbacks a year ago,
the year that Kenny Pickett got drafted by the Steelers
twenty twenty two, Chris Oladokin was drafted there as well.
They drafted two quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Nita.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Remind you of twenty twelve in Washington RG three Kirk Cousins.
Or how about last year they didn't draft two, but
Washington took Jaden Daniels and then signed as an undrafted
free agent Sam Hartman, who wasn't just any undrafted free agent.
He was the bleeping quarterback from noted Aim also glorious
hair and a fantastic beard and does just for men
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commercials in his free time where he should if he doesn't, right,
So they had to name quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
It is how about eighty nine? How about Troy Aikman
one overall? And then they came back a couple of
months later, and what do they do. They drafted Steve Walsh.
Just Steve Walsh, kids, look it up. He was a
big deal in the supplemental draft. Troy is still angry
about that one. I'm kidding, not really, but it worked out. Okay,
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but this is not unprecedented.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Oh we said it for a couple of months. Take
two bites of the apple, like the more, let's figure
out who's going to be the guy? Like, all right,
it just so happens. The guy you took in the
fifth round was a guy that many thought was going
to go in the top twelve, if not the top ten. Okay,
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were many people. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. And
Dylan Gabriel, our coaches can't say enough good things about him.
Like I heard they think they have something. Yeah, you
were there, listen. I could do an hour in Dylan Gabriel.
We can do an hour inhra door standers as well.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I'll just say this as someone who is not tall,
I have crazy respect for Dylan Gabriel who is. Don't
worry much taller than me. Okay, he's not six foot,
but no one has started more games nor thrown more
touchdowns in the history Division one football.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
The Dylan Gabriel, and he progressed up the ladder.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
He's not tall, played at a couple.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Of schools, and every school was bigger and the spotlight
was bigger, and he excelled at every single one of
those stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
He plays on time, he's accurate, his armor is stronger
than you think. You can roll him out of the
pocket and you can throw some lazers downfield.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
It's not cam Ward strong, No, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
But just go turn on the tape and when you
speak to him, you're going to walk away going wow. Okay,
that's one of the most mature recent college graduates I
have ever met. Yeah, and I mean that, and that
is what shone through to the Browns and other teams.
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And I'll tell you right now, I spoke to one
team after the draft that said one of our senior
offensive coaches that was his favorite quarterback in the entire draft. Okay,
what does that mean, come rookie, Mini caamp or July.
I don't know, but it'll be fun. It'll also be
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fun with a remade backfield, including a guy who short
drive up the road to Maria from Columbus quin shot Judkins.
Congratulations man, welcome to Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I know, thank you so much. It's like.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
More than I dreamed of to be here in this situation.
It's a great place. Finally home.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You had to wait Thursday and then Friday. You hear
your name early when you look at your phone and
you saw them guessing the two and six or four
four oh up on your phone. At first, what did
you think? You know, what's so crazy?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I didn't see my phone.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
So I got up.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And I was like, I think the Seattle Seahawks had
just picked. And I got up to go get me
a couple of lemonade and get something to drink. So
I'm talking to one of my college coaches, Coach Blackwell,
and we were just talking about the kid that just
went to Seattle. The next thing I know, everybody screaming.
I'm like, like, who fainted? Who fell out? Like what's
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going on? So I look in the room and my
mom showed me the phone. She's like, just shake it.
So I grabbed the phone and there it was. It
was everybody in the whole entire staff in the room
from the Cleveland Browns, and I was so excited and
so full of energy and just was super like. I
was super happy.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Man. The internet thought, and I thought I was in
the bathroom. You were in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
I was not in a bathroom. If I was in
the bathroom, how could I make it back that fast.
I didn't have my phone, but I thought it was funny.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Though.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
My family found it hilarious. We were all just laughing, like,
it's like, he's in the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Mom did a really good job to stay there.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Shout out to mom.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Shout out to mom.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
She was so clutch, Like she answered the phone. And
I seen like it was on the post where they
showed the clip of her, like she answered the phone.
She's just like. It was so hilarious, man, it was.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And then Andrew Barry ab said, hey, because there was
so much noise in the background, he had trouble hearing you.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
That sounds that sounds like a pretty lit party.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah, everybody was, like I said, man, everybody was just soppy.
All of my intermediate family, people that have gotten me
to that point, my coaches, people just from our community
really so many people that got me there, so they
were all there.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
What does it mean You only had one year in Columbus,
But what does it mean? It was a pretty good
year in Columbus, right way to stay in Ohio and
to stay with really kind of the same fan base
that has already wrapped its arms around you.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I mean, what better place to be than be like
here in Cleveland. I mean, especially being a Buck Eye.
So many fans from Columbus are Cleveland fans, and you know,
getting to meet so many different people throughout my time
in Columbus that are Cleveland fans and just great people
in general, and enjoy my time at Ohio State as well,
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and just bringing that intensity and who I am as
a player and as a person here to Cleveland, just
who I am as a Buck Eye man, and that
will live in me forever because of the things that
I experienced in my time there and what it meant
to me, you know, the culture, the brotherhood, all of
those things, and bringing those tools from the program here
to Cleveland, not that far down the road, maybe two
hours away, but still feeling like I'm at home.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I mean, you got a lot of buck guys here
in the building, as well. Saw dentzel Ward already right
when you're walking through the field house. What was that like?
It was crazy?
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You get to see Buck guys like okay, like I
feel like you know what I'm saying. It feels the same.
So gonna see those guys be in the building, see
him working, you know, it motivates you as a player,
especially a young guy coming in seeing guys like him.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
We've had a lot of success. I definitely motivated a
lot of time between now in September. I know you
have a lot of work to do. You're a humble guy,
but we thought about an oh, the first time we
get in the end zone at Huntington bank Field.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I don't know what celebration I'm gonna do. It's gonna
be a lot of different emotions. So I look forward
to feeling. I don't know how I feel in that moment,
but it would be some ecstatic for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Let's talk about the systems you've played in Lane Kevin
RPO System, Chip Kelly.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
They asked you put a lot more on your plate.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Pro Style system here Kevin Stefanski, Tommy Reese kind of
going back. The feeling is to what we hear. The
Browns here ran in twenty twenty three a lot of wides.
How have those two systems, two really good coaching staffs
at Ole Miss and Ohio State gott you ready for
what you're gonna face this year.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Just who I am as a player has helped as well,
just because my versatility man and playing in coach Kiffin's offense.
It's very fast paced, super fast tempo, really just using
the back in a lot of different ways. But everything
goes so fast where you can't be super like, you
can't make it too hard because it has to be
fast tempo. But then going to coach Kelly's offense where
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it's more so pro style and he's just that versatility
the back is insane. It was a lot of time
I'd be in the slot one on one with the backers.
You can line me up anywhere on the field. We
could change our footwork up on our wide zone, our
inside zones.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
We can do under it.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Just with so many things you could do in that
offense that Coach Kelly had as far as versatility, that
I really loved, and I feel like that's why I
bring to this offense as well. You know, the pro style,
and that's why I fit into this scheme so good
because of the versatility that I am and what I
bring as a player, and I think that's why I
have a lot of success at it.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
A lot of people thought one of the reasons you
did leave Ole miss and go to Columbus you had
a big workload right down there, right you were able
to share that workload with Trevion most notably last year
Dylan Samson. The Browns took here as well on Saturday
from Tennessee. Obviously, I have Pierre Strong and Jrome Ford
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already here. I'm not saying backfield by committee, but there's
a lot of talent in that backfield. You're used to
splitting carries. However, last year, how did that work for you?
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Last year went great?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Especially as a competitive man, you definitely want to be
surrounded by great guys in the room. Just go out
there and compete every day and be surrounded by great
talent and playing with a guy like Trey motivating each other,
being there for each other, two guys that are selfless,
the same mindset, his team first, who want to win.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
And you get to see him this year as well.
You know, Planetltriots planet Patriots. Maybe a little friendly wager here.
I know I'm legal, fellow, friendly major guy.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Of course, right of course, I think I don't know. Man,
We'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
How cool is it? Last question? To see him go
right after you? A lot of people thought, by the way,
by an airy like you had to pick one or
the other. A lot of running backs here, just two
of the best happened to be on one roster, and
he went right after you.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Man, I'm so happy to see him get drafted.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
He deserves it.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
He's a guy order, he's ordered than me, but he's
a guy that works hard. When I got there, he
had great leadership in the locker room. Coming back again
for his senior year just speaks about who he is,
who he is as a person, and what he stands for.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
That's what I really feel like.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I'll say it again. Welcome to Cleveland. Browns fans are
happy to have you. Can't wait to see you out
on the field. Q. Thank you, Thank you so much.
Brons Fans are gonna love Quinneawn Judkins. I know plenty
already do from his work at Ohio State. All right,
let's talk about the shirts here, because whenever they took
the Browns war room cam. You saw the shirts that
everybody was wearing. Gibbe is wearing one now. So the
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Browns made a concerted effort during draft weekend, all three
days to have as many people as possible on camera
and in the building wearing their community initiatives. And they
had shirts printed up. Gibbee, you're wearing the Stay of
the Game one. Okay, this is Brown's give back. I
(37:23):
have mine as well. I'd be wearing them, but as
I mentioned earlier, we're talking about Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I'm not a big person. The shirt's a little bit
big on me. And then this is the sanctioned Girl's
flag as well. Note the shape of the sanctioned girls flag.
And that was very important to the Browns, understandably, because
you get a lot of FaceTime during the draft.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
They want to give back. They want to be in
the community as much as possible. Obviously they are, but
they wanted to spread the good word. Gibbe with all
eyes on Brion.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, that was great. Everybody in the building wearing them
this weekend, you know, coach, general manager, front office, you know,
everybody in the building. Our whole content of production team.
Everybody got they're nice shirts, but the message on the
shirts are the most important thing. So the three major
(38:17):
points of emphasis for our community relations are Browns Foundation, Renee,
Harvey Jenner, Takansik, two ladies that do an awful lot
of good in this community on behalf of this franchise,
in this organization.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Absolutely so with all eyes on the Browns obviously picking
second overall and then fifth overall and then the top
of the second round, it was important and we wanted
to reinforce that message here on the Best Podcast Available.
It's been fun, you know, it's also going to be
fun Rookie Mini Camp.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
We will see you.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And we'll have another episode of Best Podcast available after
it gave actually one leading up to it as well.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
We will see you next week. So on give Back
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