Zegura Breaks Down the Schedule - Cleveland Browns Daily - 5.19.25

On today's edition of CBD, Z recaps his weekend getaway to Wisconsin with Joe Thomas and breaks down the Browns schedule (41:16). The guys also take a trip around the sports world covering the weekend news and it's thing or not a thing day.

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus
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Brown's on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. You are your hosts
Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh Baby, let's do it live on a Monday edition.
I am merely Bow and he is Daiy Crockett.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
How'd you do, buddy, King of the Wild Frontier, Baby,
let's go? It was let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You weard it was good.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
You saw the video of me on the on the shoot.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
You look l You look very natural with the clays.
It looks great.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, babe, eh do you like that? Turned around the
hit and the yeah, baby yeah. I brought a different
level of panache to the to the group.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Was very much so for those just joining Z was
turkey hunting with the hoff So you played Olympia Fields Thursday,
and then you you drove to traversed up to the Hoffs.
Great expanse and then you you you hunted the turkey.
Your first hunting.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Trip, first hunting trip. Going back to Thursday real quickly though,
I do have to give a couple shout out to
uh some listeners of the program who were awesome. So
I had the unfortunate luck of my flights on United
to Chicago and then from Chicago both ended up mechanically delayed,
and they were the only flights delayed of the whole
day on the route.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
But I want to say Jeff from United, who was
at the I think he was like the supervisor of
the gate agency, appeared to be a man of great importance, illuminary.
He could not have been more helpful to me. It
was even exploring like radical options for me that I
felt very very touched by. And then Anna was there
and she they both took like great supposed to fly
and when did you we were supposed to fly? Sorry,

(02:07):
remember want to say it's like eight forty five was
the original scheduled departure, and then it was Thursday morning,
and then as I pulled into the airport, it.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Was like noon and that's not going to work.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, the good news is they fixed whatever. The mechanical
issue was much faster. I think we ended up leaving
it like ten something. It was like.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
It's still there, like ten right.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
So I ended up being fine because I had to
get to but then out like twelve would have been
a big problem because I'm not making it for what
I needed to take care of it on that day.
So they were just again Jeff and Anna just gotta
get big shots. They were great. So got there great Thursday,
had a great meal out in Chicago. But it was
like crazy weather. I don't know if the weather was
here down here, like the sky was yellow. Trees are

(02:54):
being blown like out of their out of the ground
right outside this restaurant downtown Chicago. Like it was kind
of crazy for a second, and then by the time
we walked out of the restaurant it was totally fine.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That hit us middle of the night, okay, yeah, middle
of the night Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah yeah. So blew right on through UH and then yeah,
Friday got up headed up UH to Wisconsin and his
his farms about an hour and ten minutes south more
west West, slightly southwest of Madison, so it's in the

(03:28):
southwest part of Wisconsin is where it was.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I always in my mind's eye pictured it far north.
I thought that's the only where he took it, like
that topography, like as the bird flies, it's only like
thirty five miles. I think, he said, from Iowa.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Sure, yeah, it would have to be so. And it's
a unique part of Wisconsin in that it has these beautiful, rolling,
wooded hills and so it was actually the last place
in one of the areas on his property, which is
a vast expanse, is like the last place that like

(04:04):
the Native American Indians were able to kind of like
hold out and maintain because it was like it's all
like wooded ridges, and then in between our valleys which
are now like crops and you know, where the cows
are and that, so they were able to like, you know,
grilla warfare. So I'll be in the sides and you
kind of had to walk through kind of like the

(04:24):
ambush in last a Mohican. Sure, yeah, kind of that
kind of topography where there's flats but then it's like
what it's with. So he said, that's very unique to Wisconsin,
that topography.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
So it was really cool.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
So that was very cool. Yeah, So got there on Friday.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
How far is that from like Chicago?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
So door to door from north side of Chicago was
about four from O'Hare was about three ten Okay, okay,
so not terrible, Like you're into Wisconsin pretty quick. You're
into like Bloyd.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Oh god, yeah yeah, I mean we were in a
quick lacrosse tournament that was a legend Leon Illinois that
might as well have been Wisconsin. Last year in Rockford, Yeah, Rockford,
I went, I went through Rockford. Okay, well as you're
going to see all the hard rock, A nice main drag. Yeah,
I spent summer.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I bet you did.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, I know all about it. Go ahead, yeah, yeah,
kept on going, no reason to stop.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Got there and I walk in and like went to
the farm. Right, yeah, we're at the farm because this
is the so like I've decided now that the hoff
is like the John Dutton of Wisconsin. Now, obviously the
cattle herd is not as big as John Dutton's, but
in terms of just like the property, the quality of
the property, everything, I mean, it is a massive we'll

(05:47):
talk acres off the air, but it was a massive.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's massive. It's so beautiful.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
So you come in and it used to be the
room where we ended up, where everybody was at. Was
kind of like that's where he stored all the stuff,
all the equipment, and then he like totally redid.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It like a quantset if you will, I don't know
what that is, but yes, yeah, the big building where
you would store you know, agricultural equipment. Yeah, yeah, that's
a quantt Yes.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
So he turned that into now like what I would
call like the bunk house. So big bunk house. So
it's monstrous. You got a full kitchen obviously, TV recliners everywhere.
There are the massage chairs that I sat in and
it didn't happen to me, but everybody else who sat
and then passed out, and some people like slept the
night in these massage shares and they looked like it

(06:36):
made you look not well. When you were in the
massage share, it was like such a potent massage chair.
Hystericals you had that, you had, you know, everything you
could imagine, like four different pinball machines, foosball, air hockey,
corn hole, darts, beer pong, everything set up in these
giant tables where we could all kind of have like
a mess all. And then everywhere there's a billion deer.

(07:00):
He there's an elk head from the one that he
just got here. There's all kinds of stuff all over
the walls, trophies and whatnot. It's just like cool. It's
all wood paneled. It's beautiful. So then like there's one room,
there's a huge walk in as big as our studio,
walking like cooler and that's where like the birds when
I've got there. I walked in there to get a

(07:20):
water and open the door and they were like they
are there's blood on the ground, like so I was
like quickly like not faced by. You had to walk
like Turkey's hanging here like here and you're walking into
the cooler like I mean, it's it's there're right there,
you it's there. So so the place is just gorgeous.

(07:43):
So there's up above on the second level like above that,
then there's a bathroom or whatever. Then there's a closet
that's got everything you could ever imagine to want to
put on to go hunting, broken out by season and
then also by what it is that you're seeking, like duck,
if it's deer, if it's turkey. The camp, appropriate camos,
appropriate levels of layer. It's like there was a Cabella

(08:05):
safe in there. Yeah, so it was very much like Cabella's.
And then above it was like ten beds with like
a little chill area with an xbox and TV up
the top. Then there's a room that I was in
that had bunks, So I bunked with Greco. So I'm
on top, Greca's on the bottom. God, this is great, yeah,
grec oh yeah. And then there's like more bunks in

(08:26):
the Then you walk through and there's a full Wisconsin gym,
and then he's got five more lazy boys around a
fire and a TV and this cool chandelier that was like,
he'll he'll tell you he loves that chandelier. Then there's
a locker room where like there's a full on everybody
had that looks like our locker room down here, for
like everybody in the family that's there has their own

(08:47):
locker with their own stuff all spliced out in the
shoes and everything like in this like locker room, Oh
my god, more bathrooms, more bunks whatever. So ultimately I
think like twenty five people could have heads in this
bunk house. Huge, yeah, and it's all like beautiful. It
looks like to me, my eye looked like amish, like
the wooden bunks like very cool. Uh. So I finally

(09:11):
one point I looked at him like, so this is
why you played in the NFL. Yeah, this is it
so that you could have this and He's like, yeah, definitely, definitely.
So there was like two private chefs who were unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
There was like a fantasy hunt is what this is.
It's a fantasy completely nuts.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
So we had Joey Bagels, who's his partner in Gotham Bagels,
and Dan Banano Banano I hope I said that right,
it's either Banano or Banano. But Dan was a James
Beard semi finalist in Kdosha. So he was like, the
food was so good, and I'll run through the menus
for each night when when we get to those points.
But that's just kind of set in the scene and like,

(09:55):
so you look out the back, there's all these like
fire pits and to the left is a natural spring
that's one of the biggest springs in that area that
takes out this is what he said, two point five
gallons a second roll through there. So no matter what,
because it's constantly fresh waters, it's moving so quickly through
the thing that it's always basically fifty degrees year round,
doesn't mater if it's one hundredrees out or for it's freezing,

(10:16):
that springs always fifty degrees. That's pretty cool. So on Saturday,
I felt the spring with my entire being.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh you little ice bucket challenge for doctor z oh
Man risk, that's quite a shot to the system.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
So then like as you're driving into left, he's got
his wag u cows that he now has. There's a
great area of black angus uh and some like American wagoo,
some beautiful brown spotteds which he pointed out for me
so that I could enjoy see the brown spotted. To
see him in person is really some sight of behold.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And then like you're in the back, you look out
and that's like the first valley and there's like probably
like ten that kind of come off like in Fingers,
there's one air where five that come to the middle
and they go off in like five different valleys, and
then it's all those are all kind of like tilled
up now and they had corn. They've had the crop, yeah,
their crop areas. And then so the side of all
of these is like just banked forest. Yeah, and so

(11:15):
you could go through. So we did some honey in
the forest. We had some in the valleys because sometimes
it would just be out there. Sure, but that makes
it hard because you want them out there if you're
coming up from underneath, because then you can get up
before they but it's hard to like try to come
down in.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
So it turns out turkeys are very smart, well maybe
not smart, but they're instinctual. They're very smart in terms
of their own survival, and they have their eyes are
crazy because I watch one look at us and we
were supposed to be dead still and like we had
one of the people with us like went like this
God is gone, gone, good night Irene, and the blink

(11:54):
of an eye like your head like this gone. And
they can run.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
They go pretty good.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
They're kind of like in my mind like road runners
they are. They get moving, Yeah they can. They can
hum along, yeah they can. And then they were there
was the one that they were like toying with us
a little. They'd be out in this field. We'd make
our way up a little bit. Gone gone, we'd like
pull back, they'd come back out in the field. We'd
get to a point where maybe we could like because

(12:22):
we're like up above, or we could get them as
soon as we get the spot where we could maybe
have a shot.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Gone.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
So, how I've never hunted turkey? How how close do
you have to get? I assume you're using twelve gauge.
You want to be shotguns, Yeah, twelve gage. I'm guessing,
like what what distance do I need to get to
one of them?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Like I think like probably that wall is probably the
edge of where you maybe would want to be.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Oh really you got a situation.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, ideally you want it around like ten. I think
it's what Oh, you got to get right on it,
right on it then. So the way that they do
that when it works. So you go out there and
half has trained himself and we had some of the guys.
There were guides, Like there was a guy that was
the international I didn't even know it was the thing
like Turkey Caller of the Year, so he actually was
a bird the so hoff was unbelievable. He's doing he's

(13:11):
got this call in there and we had a box call.
I was doing some box calling. Uh, and he's doing
the calls and like right away the first time we
go we go into this valley and we get up
in the side and he calls an emilate. You get
like a gobble back and he's like, okay, like all
right there now it's now we're in the mix. So
that's what you're trying to do is call him and
they gobble and they come. It's like, I guess their
mating call. And when you hear the first time, it's

(13:32):
pretty cool. So like you may call them and.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, oh baby, like all right, go.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, So I didn't get to hear I guess when
you get real close, they just thing called drumming where
it's like this basy thing in their chest that you
can't hear, but you can almost you can feel it. Okay.
Uh so I didn't get to hear that because we
never got that close. But yeah, So then you're trying
to like lure them in. So you set up the decoys,
and he said sometimes like they come out if like
when it all goes the way that you're hoping, they

(13:58):
usually come out with two Tom's together and their brothers,
according to Hoff, and one of them is there to like,
so you lay out the decoys where you have a hen,
you have a hen that's on the ground, and then
you have like a jake that's out there, and so
they think like the jake's like beating them to it,
which is I guess a young.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Young male, young fellow trying to get in on the action.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, and like the two will come out and
like when it goes well, it's just very easy because
like one will spend literally twenty minutes beating up the decoy,
not realizing at any point that it's not a decoy.
So then that's why I can't say they're smart, they're
just very good survival. And then the other one will
think that the turkey, the hen on the ground is
real as well go time, and so then you can
that's when success typically happens, or you have to come

(14:40):
up on them where they're not so. But like one guy,
one group had given up for the day. We were
out there for five hours, had given up for the day,
and they're walking back and like they come up a
hill and they could they just heard one that was
like it was right up there, and so they just
like literally popped up and got it. Like no they
didn't hunt, just lot, just far luck, pure luck. And

(15:02):
that was that was the one that they got. Was
a twenty seven and twenty seven and a half. That's
a big big one.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Big spurs. Yeah, big guy, big big beard.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
You got spurs and beard, Yeah, got I picked up
some I picked up some lingo, Yeah, I picked up
some ling up good I do like in nature, the
the idea about the hunt being that like they think.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
That they're going to go have a really good time. Yes,
And that's part that makes it sad for me. I
actually view it the other way, like if that's your
last thought and then lights out, not so bad, not
so bad in the break there in the way that
would be even better in a break about it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Some of the ideas I came up with late Now
that that got a lot of people, people were really
some of my some of my ideas, how are you
going to get these birds more effectively? But uh so, yeah,
so that it was super fun just being out in
the nature like that and kind of being out there
and seeing one of the guys, Brian Cavalier, who lives there,

(16:03):
a great dude, awesome dude. He kind of said the
night for He's like, it's gonna be really cool. It's
like you're gonna like watch the world wake up, and
like that was really neat, like having it be like
dark and kind of silent, and all of a sudden,
you know, some birds are chirping, and then more birds
are chirping, and then like everything's kind of like the
sounds and you just like and you take a nap
and hop. So that's a big part tricks, being able
to nap. So we did that a little nap in

(16:24):
the forest. But it was cool. What wasn't cool is
so Friday we get there shoot some clays, which was good.
I got the clip sent you or I was, I got.
I got better at the I was actually much better
with the an over under shotgun. And he's like or
a top bottom maybe I think they called it over under.
So it's two barrels on top of each other to

(16:46):
each other, right on top of each other, like an
old I think Remington where you like broke it, popped
them in, clipped it back up, and then I was
and it was it was too vertical.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well what kind did you guys hunt with?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Most of them were singles. Those were just a single barrel.
Oh oh yeah, this was like a double barrel. Yeah,
but not but not side by side, not like a
yeah right yet no like above above, So that one
for whatever is in the sight on that worked better
for me. So I was able to get. But they
have something that had like just like you look through
the things, like a red dot if you're the red

(17:18):
dots on what you're trying to get. It's right, it's
going to hit, which yeah, which seemed pretty cool. So
we did that. Friday night ended up, you know, having
a great time party and had a great meal. Friday
night was seafood Nights, so we had ah tuna. We
had crab cakes that were just like all crab, a
grilled octopus salad, a piea like that came out in

(17:42):
this cast iron as big as this table a with
like turizo and fish and all kinds of different stuff,
all this crazy good food from like these two like
renowned chefs. Joey Bagels, who's hilarious, huge Knicks fan. So
the Nick game was on that night. He was like
weeping that the Knicks had gone on, and then we
had a we had fun like game to the morning,

(18:02):
so I kind of jumped around and then so Saturday
morning is when we did the first hunt and they're like, yeah,
the wake up, you're gonna you're gonna be pumped for this,
like wake up this roll call. And I knew it
was coming early, like you just know that intrinsically, but
we were up till probably like midnight. Haff is a
great Irish goodbye. He was just like, I'm gonna bet
he goes out. Okay, there are all these beds, this
is his place. Now this isn't one of the family says,

(18:23):
they actually have a house on property. It's very nice
over by the cows. This is just I think for
like almost maybe like for a turdy camp. But obviously
they spend a lot of time there. Yeah, as well,
there was a lot to do. He goes out to
sleep in a tent outside on the ground, no sleeping bag,
and then it's like so cold, the wind's whipping because
it was very windy that he then the hop slept

(18:43):
the first night in a truck.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm like, this is your place, what are you doing?
And he's out there in a truck. So I finally
followed and he probably got out around ten smart man,
I got out. I was up there. There a people
who were up later than I was. But finally, like
I think eleven thirty minute, I'm like, like, I know
this is coming. I gotta try to get some shut eye.
So go in there. At four in the morning, I

(19:11):
am sprung to my feet, basically shocked out of bed.
He's playing some German death metal at volumes that like,
it felt like this band was performing inside of my skull.
So imagine whatever speakers that he has at their maximum,
and it's like dun dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, Turkey,

(19:35):
I don't even know what they're saying, screaming and like
on like and this goes on for a half hour,
and so everybody's accounted for, Like the music will not stop.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Tell everyone's account.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
For dressed in your can, ready to go, ready to go?

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Oh my gosh, is there no fear to scare off
the turkeys that are in the immediate vicinity with the noise.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
You're moving, We've we're going a long way, but it
is a vast expanse yes. So you're getting in a
vehicle to go to the hunt, you know, absolutely, oh
yea yeah, yes, And vehicles are going every every direction.
We had some dudes who took like electric bikes and
just went straight up the face of them mount I'm like,
how's that working? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Right that?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
So that's like the wake up this and you're like,
now I'm right, one hundred turkey, I guess. And so
we went out there in the first, the first fora
we had that immediate gobble, never saw him nothing for
like five hours. No more.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
You're not a coffee guy. No, you're not a breakfast guy.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Banana and I actually I was a necessitated that I
had a bite of a crumb cake. He'll stop up
whatever something going on. So we went out. We didn't
get that. Then we came back for lunch. We had
a great lunch of all these like flavored burgies that
him and the meat dad are working on. We got
our poncho shirts which I'm wearing these are hof shirts.

(20:49):
This was like one of the party favorites.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Wasn't that his buddy? H Is it Colt McCoy, like
one of the big investors in that company?

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Possibly?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I thought that's where he. I remember asking him about
it because it's a very very western look, like it's
like the type of my dad wears shirts like that,
and that it's kind of like a modern Western. But
I think I want to say that it's a Colt McCoy.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
It makes it what make sense, like.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
A mist own.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
And my camo I got was Massy Oak, which was
like one of his like perfect camo people that the
hotforks with thing. He's got a lot of under armor
camo obviously.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
So then we had lunch. Everybody at that point took
like a nap, like people are just on lazy boys,
like dead to the world.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Sure you are, You're you're on no sleep, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
And so then at like three we went back out
and in the afternoon this is where I got I
got earned the name egleized because oh, I was like
bird over here, I saw a hen hide in here
with by its nest, like I found, I spotted that spot.
I was starting to spot all kinds of things. And
so in the afternoon we probably saw ten. We got
no gobbles, but these are the ones that were twin us.
They'd be out in the field. We would try to

(21:52):
get like a flank on them, then they're gone, and
then as soon backed up, they came back out. And
it was like super a very cunning bird, a very
cunning because.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
And one that I would that feels to me like
it's it gets hunted because the idea that they would
almost toy with you guys, and then also know that
they were beyond the reach of the of the weaponry. Yep,
there they they because that's pretty, that's crafty, and they're
crafty bird.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
They're so good, like I said, the eye side, just
like when you're have to be still, like it means.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like but to also know that you're a predator, because
like when I have turkey go through my backyard, they're
they're not in any big hurry when they see me.
They're not too worried about it. Yeah, so these ones,
to me, would they would lead me to believe that
they know that they're there, is there are things to fear. Yeah, yeah,
no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And I think sometimes when you hear and you're out
there and like we didn't get anything, but Greco, Greco's
guide got them something. And it's a very funny source.
So Greco has been going for years and it's been
like like I have the fever too, Like I'm desperate
for a bird. Like now you've got and you've got
in your heart racing. You heard the gobbles, you've seen them.

(23:06):
I wanted to get one, And I'll tell you my
one moment where like if I was going to have
a shot, I had one shot at it, but I
didn't for reasons. I did not have the the weapon
with me at the moment. But so Greco's out there
and gets one and then they come up to it
and it turned out to be a bearded hen.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
So that's the other thing I was going to ask.
Is there a rule there? Ye, you only can get
toughs only.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, and you don't want to get jakes, but that
happens every now and then. There are a couple jakes
they got. But yeah, hens, you don't want because that's keeps.
But a beard it hens, it's that's a that's a
tough thing.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
People think that they're always like in their full regalia,
but they look pretty similar from a distance.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yes, yes, well especially if it has a beard.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
You think it has that?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, yeah, so he got he got full.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Then did he end up having to go to the
Wisconsin State Penitentiary.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's
not I don't think it's necessarily like that level. I
think it.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I think it is, but I mean, it's a bearded one.
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's no no no no no no yeah no,
but there's right, there's no intention, there's no but it's uh,
it was pretty it was really really, it was really cool.
But so yeah, they ended up some of the people
got some. As I said that big one. It was fun.
But so my one moment where I had it is
all of a sudden, we come up to this kind

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of valley and we come over this hill and we
look and there's like seven of them.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, and we're like, oh, man, goas time.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So now we back up, get out, and now we're
trying to come up. We stop where we were and
get like into this office road where they're like, you know,
one hundred yards ahead of us. Yeah, And so now
we're trying to call them back, because that's really how
you get them is if you get them a call,
then they kind of they end up like basically walking
right to you. They wouldn't they wouldn't come. So I go,

(24:57):
I'm like, let me just go look and see. So
I go up is buying this bush. I look and
I can see that they're still there, but they're kind
of moving up into the right around and I noticed
that this road actually goes up and around to the right.
So I'm like, I wonder if I go up this road,
if it'll come to like a round eventually where like
where they're headed and the road maybe could.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So like the opening scene in Lasso Mohicans, I take
off through the grass exactly thirty second, thank you, And
I think it helped me be silent in this moment.
So I go up and I'm kind of like low
and I'm like jogging up and I get to the
point where it bends and I look around and where

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the TV.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Is is a tom You're five feet like ten feet.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Right like that facing away from me. So if I
had had oh my gosh, you came up behind it, yeah,
and I didn't have anything. So then I'm like, I'm like,
I get right down immediately, and I'm like, yeah, urgent,
like anyone get over here, come with somebody, because they've
got the weapons I didn't have. You know, the I
wasn't actually going to hunt it.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I was there to be like in the mix, did
you consider jumping on it and killing it with your
bare hands?

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Briefly? Yeah, because you're kind of close briefly no, like yeah,
that's really close. Yeah, Like if it it would have
been the greatest story ever. Like if he would have
like if I had just walked back with like they
would have been like come on, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
but I didn't so by the time and this is
how good these things are, he was not in our direction,

(26:29):
but just maybe he could hear them as they slowly
came up. So I was down because I didn't want
him to see me anymore. By the time they get there,
we pop back up, gone and gone, silently, vaporized, gone.
And so that was the last one, and then half
and I went out in the morning after a great
Saturday night, which was I mean, yogurt marinated chicken thighs grilled.

(26:54):
We had all the skirtsteak you could ever eat. We
had this lamb thing that I don't even know it was,
still was unbelievable shrimp and Elmo's cocktail sauce and then
a Vodkas like a vat of vodka sauce, rigatoni and
a nice rugul of salad and so we had that.
I was I brought a lot of wine, so I
was like, what the chefs are like, They're like the
wine guy, good, good wine. I was like, I'll be

(27:16):
a wine guy. I got no problem with that. That's
a good that's a good person to be. And then yeah,
we had fun and then fireworks show. Why not why
not firework show, which was maybe the most impressive fi
works I've ever seen in.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
My life, better than the one that the Hoff head
at Jervasi. I think, so this is like, I think
the hoff really likes fireworks.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
This was like twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
It's what we can we can start to figure.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Out Hall of Fame and Canton. There was one fireworks
show allowed, and it wasn't at the stadium where the
concert was the Hops. It was at the Hoffs party.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
The Hoff likes of firework.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
The Hoff loves of firework. It was like a I
was like, well, the trigger is gonna be scared.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Now, Sure they are.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
They're gonna be pretty rattling back right now. What was
crazy is when it concluded, and it was basically like
twenty minutes of what like if you went to your
country club or your city fireworks show. It's twenty straight
minutes of what would be the finale, just straight, just
like five at a time, boo like NonStop. It was nuts,
very very cool. And then down one of the valleys

(28:27):
coyotes started just like sure they did howling and whooping
it up, and it sounded like there were a great
many Yeah, and if I were in those woods, I
would be not pleased.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You're too big for them. Still, they're not coming for you.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I don't know that many of them. I did spot
a coyote though, too. I spotted a coyote and you
looked at us. He's like, you guys are too far.
You can't do anything to me anything too far. Yeah,
it was. It was super super fun, super fun.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Couple of questions yeah, yeah, yeah, number one, Yeah, a
couple observations and then and then one question, yeah, observation.
Needless to say, hoff hunt camp is not similar to
any hunt camp I've ever been to in all my years.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
When I used to hunt, I think it's ruine.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I think in camps for me, yeah, I think if
this is your jumping off point, this is like if
your first car were a Ferrari.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yeah, that's what I felt like.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
And you're like, well, it's all gonna suck after this,
you know, because that's not that ain't typical And any
that was a fantasy hunt camp you went to that
is not in any way unless you're at the Hofs.
What what hunt camp would be? Number two? I love
an Irish Goodbye. That's how I roll elite at it

(29:39):
and then he is gone a lot of time, I
won't even say I'm going to bed. I'll just go
to bed. And anytime that I see someone else who
has perfected it, I have a great deal of admiration
and respect because when I see it done, I'm like,
that's how you do it. This doesn't have to be
a big long thing. I'll see in the morning.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I went to bed. That's it.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, so I love that. Number three.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
This is a question.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Did you see any other wildlife?

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Yeah, so deer, coyote. The birds that you saw were like,
I saw an orange bird. I've never seen that. For
We had some We had some mushroom foraging. There's like
Morel's and nice and I think Chantrell's he said, growing around.
So we saw a lot of that, lots of groundhogs,

(30:24):
there's I mean, we saw like it. Yeah, everything wilderness. Yea,
the wilderness. Is there a what is the apex predator
in that area? Yeah, it's a great question. I think
we have half tomorrow so you can do it with him.
The turkeys are worried about bobcats.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
His bobcats. Yeah, and he said he's only seen I've
never seen one in the wild and I've never seen
a bobcat in the wild.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, I don't know. If there are bears, I think maybe,
I don't know, maybe a bear, rare, a rare bear,
black bear, yeah, uh huh.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, probably not a grizzly, that'd be shocking.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think a rare black bear. But I think that
the bobcats, he said, and then obviously not an apex predyer,
but an effective one when it comes to turkeys and
small things raccoons where he said, are and the coyotes
get in the mix.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, yeah, imagine a coyote trying to track one of
them down. It would be silent, they'd have to be
to them. But of course they're not just trying to kill.
I think they're moms. They're there after like the cattle,
and I bet they're after the little little.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Turkey, little turkeys, little baby turkeys.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, I don't even in all of our time, we
never had a We always had coyotes around cows. We
never had a coyote try to take out a cow, ever,
a calf, nothing unless it was newborn. And yeah, moms
would run them off. Mom cows would run them.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Off prety quickly, yeah said, Yeah, that's what he said,
yea formidable, He said, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
This is incredible. I mean, this is an incredible experience.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Oh yeah, we did a cold plunge after the Okay,
so did Saturday as a ritual. Yeah, so you go in.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
It was the temp day day side temp.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
It was not warm we were in. It was so
it was high fifties and windy, which makes it harder.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
So what you guys had Saturday, we yeah, that's what
it was here.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Saturday too awful. Yeah, and that Sunday like this, it
was kind of a little bit cloudy. Yeah, So when
the sun came out in the afternoon, we actually saw
a lot more of them. Like the morning, we didn't
even see one in those five hours. We heard the
first one within five seconds of us being out there
in the first call. We got gobbled back to and
we're like, oh man, this is so lod Yeah, we're
on nothing, and then nothing for the rest of the time, right,

(32:30):
And then the afternoon the sun came out a little bit,
we saw a lot. We definitely saw a lot more
of them.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
What you your first part of your Saturday morning is
what the majority of my hunting career has been is
get up really early and wait and see nothing. Yeah,
and then be like, okay, let's go have lunch, I guess,
and then let's go give it another shot in the evening.
I mean that that hits home in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
You gotta like the people you're with. Obviously, I dad,
I did it right, so that makes it much harder.
We had, We had very fun conversations.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
And a million things I was doing wrong every ten seconds.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Be your fault, always going around. Yeah, it just turns
out these they're very good at survival.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
All right. Thrill of the hunt's pretty cool. Yeah, when
that first we're doing like the sneak around thing and
like going on the ridge, like that's really fun. That's
that's that's fun. Hunt.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Next year, I'm gonna get my light, my tag or
whatever I have to get so that because like that,
that would have been the moment, like and that would
have been I feel like, the greatest story ever. Like
if I had just decided I was going to go
run through the forest to find it and I did
and got one, like on my first hunt ever, it
would have been the greatest. But I didn't. I didn't
have the because I did I wasn't I wasn't ready.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I was there more heart beat that's doing for you
as you're traversing this picing, making up around, trying to
and then all of a sudden you pop over and
there it is.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
I couldn't believe it. I almost like fell down because
I was like it actually right there looking away from me.
So I'm like, I got it. Yeah, And apparently they
don't have good scent.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
They just the eyesight must.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Be the eyesight is unreal. And their ability to tech movement.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And he said it's not so much they not graded
hearing because otherwise they would have heard all the music
and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
That music would have been so far away.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Oh this is this is much.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
This isn't the evening much later, so they would have
they have forgotten that. But like they were used to
like trucks driving through the area, So I don't think
that scares them as much. I think it's more like
the call combo with some movement in the brush that
maybe shouldn't be there.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
They're clearly conditioned to know that they're being hunted by you.
Those ones are those, Yeah, that they know that this
is in the brochure.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, because I've seen like triggies just camped out and
like in this area and people's backyards and without the
fear of everything.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Quite aggressive, and they don't they act like they own it.
Yeah right right, This is so what you just described
with turkey is how like we used to duck and
goose hunt back home, and they're the way that those
turkeys you describe, like if you get in a vicinity,
they're gone gone, they're gonezo, whereas here you could walk

(35:08):
right up to a goose.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
And they're not fearful of anything. Yeah, it's interest because
those ones are literally they're survival of the fittest. They're
like in that nature mindset. And he said they don't
even really sleep that well because they're constantly you know,
they're up in their roosts, but raccoons and and bobcats
are trying to go up and snack on them while
they're sleeping. That's fantastic. So they're like, they're a skittish

(35:33):
bird by nature. And he's like, basically anything that just
seems like a little bit out of the ordinary to them,
they're like, I'm not I don't care, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah, I'm out. So we had one, so we went
out for like thirty minutes on Sunday and we made
a call and we got a gobble, and we made
another one and then like it was goblin and it
was you could tell it was closer, so it was
coming and it had moved fast. This one's coming and
this one would be great. It was gonna have to
come up a hill to us. And then it just

(35:59):
like either it hurt us or it felt us or whatever.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Did you ever see it?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Never saw it, never see and then never stopped responding
and was like.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Nah, dude, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
What's interesting to me about it? So like number one,
I couldn't never with a deer, I just just me
knowing me could not. But that one sounds a lot
more like you kind of just like sit in a
spot where you know they go and hope it walks by,
whereas this feels like a real cat and mouse chess.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Like well, the distance close that you have to get
makes it formidable because of how close you have to get,
whereas with I mean where I grew up, you could
hunt deer with a rifle, so you could be a
couple hundred yards away and take one out pretty easily.
I mean, you could be three hundred yards and take
them out pretty easily. So that part, I think that

(36:53):
gives you that intimate thing that you're you know, looking
for of like the worthy adversary part of it.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
The cop said, there's sphere of disruption is what he
was kept calling it is like fifty yards, so like
they're really good at picking up any disruption inside of
fifty yards. But that's where you have to be.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, So these ones are instinctial. They obviously are. They're
used to being hunted and they're prepared for.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
That's why I said, when you can get them to
think we're there, get the decoys out and they fall
for that, that's like that's it. Or you just like
the other people, you just happen on it, just stumble
on it, that's it. Yeah, Like we had one that
was over I think they call them a drift where
there's like kind of like a hill naturally in the valley.
And they're very good at always being like behind the drifts. Yeah,

(37:37):
they're just like they they're not to use it to
party and like so we would come up and we
saw it didn't see us, and we're like, oh my god,
it's like right, over this hill and so we'd back
up and then we'd like crawl basically on the ground
up there, and then it's gone, and then we go
back to our car and guess right back out there again.
And as soon as we'd gone, so like he was
messed with us. So me and me and the meats

(37:57):
pretty good. Me and the meat that were like, we're
just going into the forest. Yeah, and obviously found nothing,
but their ability to just disappear into the forest is
also kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, and I'm sure that they blend in with anything.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
It's weird though, because they're very I know, they're coloring
is not it's not black. It's like a lot of
brown and some white. But like when you see them
from far on, especially like on the the tild field,
which is gold. Yes, they look black like it is.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Should be a very easy thing to spots.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, but not. Mother nature took care of him on
that side of things.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
It was cool though, it was just it was cool.
I respect it.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, yeah, it's a fantasy hunt. Respect well.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It was much more about the Camarcker, the brotherhood, the
fellowship we had. I saw the greatest and a lot
of guys played at Wisconsin with him or in his
workout group. Some played in the league. You know obviously
there's you know Greco and you know some other guys
from from this area. When the guys was the fireworks guy, Yeah,
Alex was awesome dude, Like great dude. Uh. And then

(38:57):
I saw like the greatest cornhole player I've ever seen
in my life. Kenny was the punter I think for
the hof dude he made and I'm not exad this
is not an exaggeration. While I played, watched him play,
and then I had the misfortune playing against him. He
made about eighty five percent in like if he didn't

(39:17):
have three in on a board, it was like what happened?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Whoa?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And it didn't matter how you blocked it up. He
could throw it high. He could throw one that like
if the board was cover. He was on the right side.
The board was covered on the right quarter. So you're like,
all right, now he can't do it. Yeah, he somehow
with the row one that came around this way and
would go in. He could throw it this way and
go in. He could hit it so like he knocked
yours out and somehow knock his in that was under
it and I could. I'm just like, dude, this is

(39:41):
what is going on. This is nuts. I was giving
him my all, but it was like we were playing
different sports. It's a different animal, yeah, different sports. Yeah, Kenny,
he was really good.

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I just had lacrosse all weekend, so it wasn't quite
as thrilling as what that was. I do have a note,
here's my one note. If you are a food truck
at a youth sports event and you well, they had
one of those I love it. I love a food
truck taco and I'm all for that. But if you

(40:52):
are a food truck and you have the ability to
make breakfast sandwiches, and there is a line for or
said breakfast sandwiches, do not stop making the breakfast sandwiches
at ten o'clock.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
No, keep them rolling.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Keep those babies. People will suck those down at noon.
Yeah that's that was the number one, and they shut
it down. I went, that's don't do that. Keep those
going as long as you can. Yeah, all right, what
do we have? We got some things from you last week,
so you and I didn't We didn't get to do
like schedule game anything I offer.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
The people will know on but I don't.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You know, Gibby and I confer, do we do? There's
no reason to bug you.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
It was a long drive. I would have been happy
to tux.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
We would have got you twenty minutes. You did. You
did offer in I had a I have a window
of record for us. I have a window of record.
I'm curious if you, if you play it, how close
you will be. Let's do it to my window of record.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Okay, let's see.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I think you're going to be in it.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
So like a low side high side yep, okay, yep,
the high and low of what it could be.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
All right, you ready?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
So how do you want me to get high and low?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You could eat? Well, let's just see what you end
up at, just my normal, and then my guess is
that's that you land somewhere within my window.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Bengals at home, Okay, that's a wind dog yep, all right.
At Ravens, that's a loss. Packer is at home.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
So the way that I'd rather do this, if you
don't mind it at all, you're the franchise, do whatever
you want. So I think Packers, Lions, Vikings, I think
we win one of those.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
You did the same thing, So I don't know. I'd
rather just do this. I'll look at tronches.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yeah, in a trench. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
You're two and three coming out of Vikings, Yeah, two
and three. I think. Then you're at Pittsburgh, Miami, at
New England, at Jets.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
For the next four okay, and then I think we're
going to get I think lose to the Steelers, just
because I gibbe, we have not seen a regular season win.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
In Pittsburgh, right, You did what playoffs's.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
I've never seen a Steeler.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I've never been you never won a Hines, not the
regular not in the regular.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Something I'm gonna I'm just gonna stay with the trend
and hope it breaks it.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Miami two and four at home.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
I think we're gonna win one of the next two Dolphins, Patriots.
I think we win one of those. I'll take Miami.
We'll say we'll lose to New England, but I think
I think we can win. I think we could win
both of those, right, Jets, that's a win. Okay.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Then you are Ravens at home, at Raiders, Niners at home,
and then Tennessee at home.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
So I think we win. I go, I think we
go two and two in there, right.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
So when so you're at six and eight, No, six
and six and seven, six and seven, I believe it's
where you're at.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
We were one, two, one and three, two and four,
three and five.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
We're they're five, five and seven.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
No, you're right, six and seven, six and seven, Okay.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Six and seven, and then and now you're at you're
at Titans, right, Titans at home, Titans at Bears, Bills.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
No, that was where we went two and four. So
in the Titan the Titans, I already gotten it. Yeah right,
So at Bear, so there should be four games left Bears, Bills, Bills.
So I think, I think probably, I really think when
we're gonna, I think seven and ten, and then I think, like,

(44:34):
our best case scenario is is ten and seven. I
think that would be like my ranges.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
So the low for you is seven and ten. The
low is.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Probably for being like totally realistic, it is probably six
and eleven. Like I could say, it's go one and
three in those last four.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
So I said, for me, the window is between six
and eleven and nine and eight. Okay, that's that's so
we're in the similar space.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
I was just one more, Yeah, and I'm optimistic by
nature something going one one more to the north.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
That's not surprising, yeah, but that I mean, that's it.
It's a really tough schedule, but there are some winnable pockets,
and I do think that the notion, like the reason
we brought this up is Cynthia Freeland Ed. She ran
these processes a billion times, and by her process, we
had the most likely to have the worst record in football.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
And that's just great.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
It was pure joy. So then you say yourself, well,
wait a second. Now you are better than you were
a year ago. You're going to be competently quarterbacked one
way or another. Your defense got better, absolutely, you now
have a quite formidable run game, you now have another
big time weapon in the passing game.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
You're going to win more than three games next year.
I really feel that way. So while I don't we
play a very difficult schedule though we do. We had
six teams that had double digit wins on our schedule
and a.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Brutal, brutal division that could get more brutal of Rogers
goes to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
The North North part of it is very hard. Yes,
well I have us going two and four in the division.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Me too, I had a speeding I had the same
ones you do Pittsburgh and Cincinnatly.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, I know we have split with the Ravens, I
think many years in a row. So like maybe we
figure out how to do that again. But it's a
very tough schedule because because what's so hard about it
is you line up with you have the AFC North,
you have the NFC North, and that's brutal. Like all
four teams the NFC North are very good. Three of

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them won double digit games a year ago. If I'm
not mistaken, and Chicago feels like a vastly improved team, I.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Think it's the worst. I think it's the most difficult
start to a season since I've been doing stuff for
the team.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
So back to eighteen, I don't know the last time
we thought we're like and you look at it.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And went Bengals at Ravens, Packers at Lions, Vikings. Like
to me, the Vikings because IM not all in on
JJ McCarthy yet, not that I have anything against him.
I just haven't seen him play quarterback in the NFL,
so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
What he is.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
But like the other four of those are brutal what
I don't like.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
So last year, the Bengals won nine games, the Ravens
won twelve games, the Packers won eleven games, the Lions
won fifteen, the Vikings won fourteen, and believe it or not,
the Steelers won ten.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Well, what did Miami win nine? Orre they ten?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Miami won eight?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Oh, just eighty and the New England four.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Then it drops off Jets five and then back to
Baltimore's at twelve, but the tough one and then you
have the Bills in there as well. Who won the
Bills won thirteen.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, you're you're you're opening Stanza and then you're closing
four of at Bears, Bills here, Steelers here at Cincinnati
is brutal, just utterly brutal. Two thirty.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Your first six opponents last year were eight thirteen twenty
six thirty seven. Your first six opponents lasty were combined
forty games over five hundred.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Yeah, like, I think it's that's why I said it's
the toughest start to a season since I beg six.
Oh yeah, Well, you're not going to be a favorite
until you probably won't be favored until maybe at I
don't even know, probably Titans. Conceivably you could be favored

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over the Dolphins, maybe could be maybe depending on how
they look early, could be favored at New England, or
depending on how things look for the young quarterbacks. But correct,
but no, I mean it's possible that you have to
wait well into this thing.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Best road trip that is not London or Las Vegas.
I'd go to the I go to New.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
York, New York, Chicago, New York, Chicago.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I go to New York in early November November ninth.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I think New York is right. Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You can go to one non divisional home game. Which
game are you choosing? Non divisional home?

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Well, that's for me. It would be easy.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
It be a that nurse, it'd be Packers September twenty first. Baby,
weather's going to be awesome. I'm not going back end.
Give me a dome, dome, give me a dome that.
I'm all for you. You need me there in November December,
I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
With the beauty. You'll be there, I'll be there. We'll
get a blimp shot. Don't you worry.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Don't you worry.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Don't you worry?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Uh but no, I like that. I like that Packers
game on the twenty first. I like that a great deal.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah that's a good one. That's a good one. I mean, yeah,
that's a good that's a good one. That's yeah, that's
the best one.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
All right.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Well it isn't It is the state. And that's why
I think people who are out there that are saying, oh,
you know, we want you know, you want Shador, you
want Gabriel to start right right out of the gate.
If people want that, this is why that's not going
to happen. There's just you don't you are good whether
or not we can win these games, and I have,
as you know, winning two of them of the six.

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You don't want to start a young player's career in
a situation where they will be the underdogs six weeks
in a row. No, that just doesn't sound like a
good for the confidence in all of those things. That's
I still think it's gonna be Kenny Picktt to start.
I've said that all along, and then I think, you know,
if he shocks the world and plays really well, then
you say, oh man, maybe we're good. We've got something here.

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And then if not, I think you're gonna have an
opportunity see both Gabriel and Sanders as the season goes on.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Yep, all right, there you go. Second hour of the
program coming up next. We got a lot to get
to around the sports world.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
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Last Friday, this was after we went on the air.
Off the air Friday, brock Perty agreed to a five year,
two sixty five, one hundred and eighty one in guarantees.

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We knew that this was kind of eminent. What were
Pedro's thoughts on the on the deal, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
You asked, let's see, we can go to the we
have a record. It turns out yeah, we have a
record of it. At first he thought, let's see. He
was actually very into my my being at the Turkey
camp because he was like, that's pretty that's pretty cool.
He was like, you're going to get one of those,
and they said, good read, give me an article about him,

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and then he was very happy at first said crazy amount.
What wonder what happened to the brock who wanted to
help the team. Guess Lynch should never have hinted that
he could play on his five mil rookie contract. I said, Dad,
good for him. I said, it's not even close to
top dollar. It's a good deal. I was like, yeah,
he should get everything, of course, help the team.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
He did that.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
He did that by being three. Yeah, he played for
nothing and Bot was buying guys in cars even though
he didn't have anything. So yeah, good for him. He's
a great deal for him. I think that you know,
if you look at it, five years, one eighty one,
so it's really kind of like a three and a
half year deal, right if I'm doing the math right,
So that's what fifty three MILLI year?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Yeah, so that's yeah, three years of that would be.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
One fifty nine, So it's it's really it's like a
three and a half year deal.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Good.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Good, Yeah, I think it's you have to think it's
it's funny. I think it's hard to have a conversation
with him, Yep, about him because I think so much
of the way we view him is because of where
he was drafted. I think if brock Perty were a
first round pick, he would compare very favorably to the

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other guys in the fifty million club. So that's in
fact probably more so than a lot of them. I mean,
that's Goff, that's too uh. Obviously it's the high end
guy's Burro, Lamar Allen. But they're elite, elite, elite is that.
But like the only one of those guys by the way,
over fifty there's only one that's won a Super Bowl, Hurts,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
It is the only one in that group, so it's
won it. Perty for his cares is under.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
First career in thirty six starts, which is twelve starts
a season is twenty three and thirteen. He's thrown for
ninety five hundred and eighteen yards, sixty four touchdowns, twenty
seven picks. His career complete percent sixty seven point five.
His career yards per attempt is eight point nine eight

(54:22):
point nine yards per attempt for his career yep, he
led the league in yards per attempt and quarterback rating
in twenty twenty three and QBR he is a career
one hundred and five quarterback rating. He's very good. He
has a very if that was a first round numbers

(54:43):
and I'll just compare to Let's say the first.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Trevor Lawrence went number one that year, I have Lawrence
is off, he's and now his situation was a lot
better than Trevor's. Yeah, but the only season Trevor has
it's living in the vicinity. Party is the second one
where he went nine to eight. He was sixty six percent,
forty one to thirteen, twenty five touchdowns, eight picks. To me,
I think the GoF apples to apples is I'm sorry,

(55:08):
the party apples for apples is goth. I think those
are I think they're very similar players first years really good,
better than Goff's. Yeah, Goff had a monster year year four, year.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Four forty six. No, year three, he had a monster
year three for GotY six eighty eight and thirty two touchdowns.
So goffin in three years, let's see thirty one thirty
eight games, all right, thirty eight games, and I said
what Perty was thirty six.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
We also have to acknowledge that Goff was going on
to a team that was not as good as the
one that Perty went on too.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I think that's fair, but go ahead, So Goff in
those three is sixty five, sixty two, fifty five. So
we'll call him, let's call him sixty two percent completions,
and he's got sixty five touchdowns, he's got twenty six picks,
and his quarterback rating would be probably in the mid nineties.

(56:04):
Party was in that same period of time, sixty four touchdowns,
twenty seven picks, basically the same obviously complete center six
some point five and rating is one oh five. I
think Party gives you a little more with his legs,
not a We're not saying it's a ton, but Party
gives you a four eighty and eight touchdowns with his legs.

(56:28):
That's definitely been one of golf. What do you think
I would think, Yeah, Goff gave you in the first
three seasons. Goff gave you one fifty nine and sixteen,
one seventy five and four rushing, so similar.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
I think they're really similar players, and I think a big,
a great. I think a lot of the discussion around
Party is shadowed by where he was picked, and people
view him as like that he's not as good as
he's what he's end statistically, which is elite. At least
he's really good. Now, if you have the conversation of

(57:06):
let me, I'll just play this game with you. Who
in the league right now at the quarterback position would
you say is a true elevator of the people around them.
I think it's really short list, that's my hint. I
think it's a really short list of quarterbacks who make

(57:28):
those around them better just by playing.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Give me one.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I think there's a bunch of guys who are really
like I think there are guys who elevate those around
him to the nth degree, truly elite. Then I think
there's upper middle class, which is really good middle and
then it's then from there. But I don't I don't.
I don't have party in that top level.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
No, I'm trying to see if I can pull up
for something right here for the year by year twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I think people think there's a lot more franchise quarterbacks
than there are, like franchise defining face of the franchise.
I make everybody around me better. And I think that
what people sometimes forget is that to be in the
brock Purty business, to be in the Jared Goff business,
to be in the Jordan Love business, there's a handful
of other ones that are kind of in that group.

(58:32):
That's a good business to be in. It's winning. That's
you get to play for super Bowls, get to knock
on the door of super Bowls. You haven't win them.
But honestly, of the four guys, I guess I just
gave it. Of the guys who I put at the
very top, only one of them has Yeah, I think
I probably have. I think you have. You may have
one more than me, but I'm guessing you have the

(58:53):
list that I have. All right, go ahead, what do
you got?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
So I've got Alan Burrow, mahomes Lamar, and then my
next two were Herbert and Stafford.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
So I have Stafford ahead of Herbert just because I
need to see justin winning that now. I think a
lot of what happened to him early was Staley and
the incompetence. So I like him not quite to you,
but right there. And then that the ones that are
like knocking on the like, I think Hurts is closer
to that group than he is. I think Hurts is

(59:38):
kind of in that next group with I think Hurts
is they're different players, but I think he's in the
group with like Goff and Love and Purty and kind
of all those guys. I think the two guys I
want to see more of and I think this is
a big year for them both is Jayden Daniels and
c J.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Stroud.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
If Daniels has a great year too, then he moved.
He can move right up into that group. If he
gets back, then he could give me in the conversations
a year ago, we would have said he is close
to being someone who elevates.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
It hurts would have been next for me, just because
and we'll find out what they do with the tush push,
but just because he makes it first and nine every time,
and nobody else does that, like, yeah, it's first and nine. Yeah,
So to me, that is very that's very impressive. Yeah,
but that's the group. And here's the bad news, folks. Oh,

(01:00:28):
they're all in the AFC, with the exception of Stafford.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I just had this discussion this morning from the perspective
of and this is why the Browns went out and
acquired Deshaun Watson, because at the time of acquisition, you're
looking around and you're going, I got to deal with
two of these guys who are elevators in my own division.
And then if I am so lucky to win the division,
if somehow fortunate, now I've got to deal with Alan

(01:00:51):
and Mahomes if I don't have somebody who can punch
it their weight, and at the time of acquisition, Deshan
Watson could.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
That's like for people, why, that's why, that's why it happened.
And that's the thing when you when you look at
this and so when you think about party and people
are like, oh, that's too much for him, I'm like, no,
he's in the next category.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
He is. And people will say, well, it's Shanahan's offense.
This Look, the fact of the matter is he is
as efficient and operator of that offense as we've seen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
He is quarterback that offense to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Like, if you want to use the golf comparison, who
I think there's a lot of similarities. One is drafted
first and one is drafted last.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
But in terms of their acumen, the way they go
with their business, the way they distribute Jared Goff's quarterback
to team to a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
Why am I blinking? Who was? The Niners have been
there twice and lost the Chiefs in two years, quite
frank that they should have won? Is Garoppolo? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Garoppolo? Garoppolo actually is the only quarterback from twenty fourteen
still in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Yeah. With cars retirement, he's the last one. Teddy might
make it comeback.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, he's the last one in the in the mix.
That whole Car situation, You and I haven't talked about
that yet either. That was crazy how all that has
scalated as quickly as it did. Yeah, I guess he's
just like and now it looks like they're trying to
put themselves in position to draft to try to be like, hey, Arch,
are you sure you want two years at Texas? Come home?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
They are definitely trying. You can tell that there is
a I've seen our names mentioned as one given our
relationships obviously in Tennessee ties. But I've seen our name
and then I've seen the Saints as being like two teams.
Could they convince the Arch to come out?

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yeah? I be going home for him for New Orleans,
But look, he could have stayed home for college and
he went to Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
So you just never know how it's all going to
shake out. The Eagles have agreed on a multi year
extension with head coach Nick Sirianni. So you win the
Super Bowl and that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
We were there in week five, Week six, Week six,
because they went two and two. Then they had their
bye and we were there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
I was just telling these guys this a couple hours
ago when we put this run down together.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
They wanted to fire them. Oh I remember he's yelling
at fans in the sands like, yeah heated. Words were
being exchanged.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Now he gets wins the Super Bowl. Get it's an
extension and king of the city. I remember that vividly,
like it was like they were gonna run him out
of town.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Yeah, we had people on that week they were like,
I don't know if he makes it through the season.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Through the season going wild well, because remember, to be fair,
that two and two was also coming off of like
twenty twenty four. They started year is it twenty twenty
five now, so twenty twenty three they went like one
in they lost their last like six games or one,
and they.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Started eleven and oh or twelve, ten and oh, and
then lost a bunch and then got and then got bake, got.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
Him trounced, Bake, get him trounced in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, so yeah, he gets a new extension there. In
Stadium News, the bears plans for a new dome stadium
have shifted back to the suburbs of Arlington Heights. Seem
owns the three hundred and twenty six acre property that's
previously home to Arlington International Racecourse. The Bears purchased the
land and stipt member of twenty twenty one, have not
begun developing the site, which is supposed to feature restaurants,

(01:04:04):
retail space, and real estate in addition to the new stadium.
The change comes a month after the Bear said they
were exploring both Arlington Heights and Chicago's lake front south
of the current site of Soldier Field. The Bear's goal
remains to begin construction on a new stadium by the
end of this year. Kevin Warren is spe spearheading this.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
By the way, one and six. In their last seven
games for that year, they were ten and one. They
beat the Bills in overtime, and they lose, Niners, lose Cowboys, loose, Seahawks,
beat Giants, lose Cardinals, lose Giants, and then lose thirty
two to nine in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
You had to be close to to this arling your
northern suburbs. Arlington Heights is a northern suburb Chicago. This
is the reality is if you're trying to put something
near or adjacent to the current Soldier Field site, there
just isn't a lot of room. No, there's no parking.
It's very difficult to try to make it work. Hard

(01:05:00):
to get in and out there, It's very difficult. It's
hard for the team to get in and out there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Even that's we have to go, there's not a lot
of room to even get the buses in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, it's tight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
So yeah, we're under I think we're underneath. Yeah, because
you you exit out onto a main street, like it's
not like we have to go through like a lot
of times you go through a parking lot you're working with,
Like you're out onto a main drag right off the
get go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah. Yeah, So they've had this land for a long
time and we'll see what comes of it. I think
that the the downtown site for them is always going
to be just really tricky. There's a lot of components
to kind.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
Of work through.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
By the way, just I'm curious anecdotally because this was
something we talked a little bit about at Turkey Camp,
and I've talked about it a lot of ways, and
my anecdotal experience. Everybody's for the dome, like people go, yeah,
I wish it could have been done in Cleveland, but
it can't. So give me the dome I have not had.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
And I understand and how you'd be skeptical considering where
you and I continue to do this show. For sure,
this is the God's truth. I have not had a
single person come up to me and go, you gotta
be downtown. Not one, Yeah, not a single one. And
I get asked about it all the time. I know,
you get asked about all the time like it's part

(01:06:19):
of it. Uh, But they're not any no, never, no, no, no.
People want a great environment to watch a game. Yeah,
and they want the amenities that that that you want.
I mean, that's buy and large what I'm what I'm
seeing as well, all right. The Seahawks and Colts have
worn their season ticket holders about repercussions for selling their

(01:06:41):
tickets to games. In twenty twenty five, No action will
be taken out, but the Colts have said that fans
renewal eligibility may be impacted in Indy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Brock you live over there, Seattle. Seattle sent the first notice.
Indye followed up over the weekend, Stephen Holder was reporting it.
He got a copy of the letter and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
But what is who is coming to Indy that they're
worried about taking over their stadium? I don't have not it.
I mean, we go for the Combine, you go for
NC DOUA a big ten tournaments and stuff, but like
it's not exactly a tourist destination. Same with Seattle. Quite honestly,
Seattle's lovely, but like it's hard to get to who

(01:07:23):
are they worried about them selling their tickets to? Because
that am I reading that right? That it's for like
selling them to opposing fans? The problems? Am I missing
something to me?

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
You want to obviously you want to have your home
stadium be home field advantage, But if you pay for
those tickets I can give if I want to give
them my pal right, what do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I This isn't Vegas either, or Miami or someplace where
it's like a fun road trip. Like it's Seattle, and
Seattle is a lovely city, but it's an outpost. Yep,
you're choosing to go there. You don't stumble into Seattle.
And I just don't find it weird to think that
either of these would be a problem in either of
these towns. Now give me Miami, Vegas, LA.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
I still think if you're able to, I agree, if you,
if you pay, pay for the ticket, give whoever you want.
That's your right. Yeah, it's a slippery slope, especially because
how are you gonna know if they sell their tickets.
First of all, if I bought these tickets, that's a
sunk costs for me. If I'm not able to go
to a game, I absolutely fiel to sell them. In fact,

(01:08:30):
that's why there are all those ticket marketplaces where you
can sell tickets.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
The league runs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, that and make the maximum you want on your investment.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Right. Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. I'm like,
what if you're a snowbird? What if you like you
don't go to the cold weather games? Yeah, they down
in Florida, you leave after Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Yeah, No, that's strange. I find that very interesting that
they're they're both deciding to do that. Uh, you want
to take a quick break and then we'll do around
the sports world with the NBA and the golf and
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least amount of a major you've ever watched? It has
to be well, it was that. This wasn't It wasn't like, hey,

(01:09:47):
can you put that?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
No, we got the next Yeah, we got the next
game for Joey Bagels.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
But were you able to follow it all?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Or I followed it on at Greco and I we
were talking about it and yeah, yeah, so we had.
We had a good time with that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
We've been doing this this time of year for a
while now. Yep, is this working? I don't think so. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
I like the idea, I don't think it's working.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
So their goal is to go April, May, June, July
Major each.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
Month I liked it in theory because what else is
going on?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Right? I also thought that course is like, is it
because we see it so much? Well, they play a
normal tournament there, That's what I mean. Yeah, I think
that's part of it. I think that, you know, fourteen
was cool to watch them play fourteenth with the Green
Mile or whatever fourteen fifteen sixteen, but it wasn't like
that amazing of a parts that didn't look great on TV.

(01:10:45):
I didn't think it looks very normal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
It looks like Greater Hartford Open or something like it
would say, okay, we're playing yeah, And I can you
imagine being like a member at that place, which I'm
sure is an incredibly prestigious place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
A bebo BeBox knows a guy guy out there as
a member who's like all fired.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Up in and I'm sure he's pissed off because here's
all these people saying your course sucks, it's boring, and
you're like, well wait a second, Like it's not it's amazing,
it's amazing. I'm sure it's just for what you see
it so often that we're used to it. I think
what I mean, clearly the reason they did it was
for what you said April, May, June, July a major
every time, and they want to get away from the NFL.
But I think the one thing that they kind of

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missed in doing so is, yes, you're getting away from
the NFL, but it's NFL preseason, and it's at night.
You still own the day, you still owned during the day,
you owned Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday with it in August.
And for my life, I mean, you always view this
through your own prism, of course, but for me, this
is the least Major that I can ever watch because

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I just chase around with the kids all weekend long.
I mean, we had eleven lacrosse games this seme Yon,
so I didn't see anything. I wasn't in the mood
for it because I feel like we just did the
Masters and this thing just kind of pops in there.
And then you know, next week you're in Columbus for
the Memorial, which for here locally not as much as
it is down there, but it's still, you know, a

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relatively big tournament, and then your US Open Father's Day,
and all of a sudden, it's like, Wow, we got
the British and we're done. Golf's over for the casual fan.
I so I don't think it wins. I don't think
it wins at all. I don't think it gets accomplished
what it wants you. I think it happens in a backround.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Yeah, you could have kept it the first weekend of
preseason because no one plays anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Well, that's what That's what I'm saying it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Even if it's at four o'clock, you're competing with it.
You know what's playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
And you're playing. You're doing NFL preseason at night. You're
not doing it in the middle of the day. Like
all this stuffs sober by seven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
You're not going head to head with Game seven, Game
seven of the Nuggets Thunder. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, you're not having to be a route but right,
but you're not going head to head with that. You
don't have. You know, in our part of the country
where a great amount of the population is is in
this part of the country, the Northeast, and we are northeast.
You think like it's our first bit of spring. People
are getting out and about and they're trying to do
things you want to go and all. It just doesn't

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fit for me at all this time of year. And
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
My guess is ratings. I kind of like that it
goes from Augusta. You get to bask in that for
a little while. Then it's like, all right, Father's Day
us open. Then we're going overseas to the British Yeah,
which is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
And then you get the PGA to kind of round
it out. It was always kind of lost being fourth,
because but I do think that the fourth one should
be here on us soil.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
I agree, and I also would I'll push back a
little on think I get it's totally lost.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
He totally lost.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
I don't think it is lost the fourth because it
was like, all right, this is our last chance for
a major of the year. We all got to pay
attention for juice, and in some instances, like for our
Formidable Golf viewing Lives, it was Tiger trying to either
win his third or the second of three or the
second of what would be a Tiger Slam. There was
always some can Tiger finish this year so that when

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he goes to Augusta next year, he's getting another one.
So there was always that to it, like this thing
came and went and it was gone. Scotty Scheffler's just
incredibly such. He's a machine just as a player. He's
just a machine.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
But he almost I mean he was at one point.
If you just look at the end, you would be like,
oh man, it was a route. He was Johnny for
a second. He got to one and then Rob was
tied with him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Johnny Robs spit the bit and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
Then just complete collapse.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yeah. Him and Deshambo kind of let us down because
this wasn't Scotty running away with it. He just but
he's so steady. He just his misses aren't huge. You
don't ever see him do I don't remember the hole
it was on where Deshambo just just straight up shot it.
It was a part three and he just put it
over into the water like you never see Scotty do that,
Like just an unforceunate area. The Shambo did that on

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Saturday when I was watching. It was one of the
It was on the back and he was kind of
in the mix and he just put it in the drink.
He just hit it over the green into the water
and it's like, you missed that by twenty yards. You
never see Scotty do that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
The crazy thing was Scheffler. I think it was first
eight drivers were seven were bad in the rough left,
and he's still somehow was able to be like one
over through that point. Yeah, and then all of a
sudden he drains the bird he putt and then it's
like off to the races rocket ship from that point,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
It's you and I talked about it the first two days.
Outside of Scheffler, we were like, I appreciate everybody's got
a family.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
There was nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
There was no one on that leader board.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
No, no.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
A lot of them missed the cut. I mean a
lot of the guys that you expect.

Speaker 4 (01:15:42):
To go, what's going on with this driver stuff too?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
So Rory's driver was deemed non conforming. It doesn't mean
that it was a legal and illegal driver. It just
means that most likely, after all the hits on it,
the face was.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
I think Scheffler's was to this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah, scheffer got hit by that too.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
That just means they just need to get a new head.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
It just means like they've hit it so much that
they can it makes it basically be non conforming because
they have thousands that I think, but the ball speed
how much they're hitting the golf ball, so it's probably
like it was. It could be conforming. One swing could
take it in the middle of a round, could take
it from conforming to non conforming. Yeah, like it just
is where you get to that point. So people are

(01:16:23):
looking at it way too much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I'm gonna tell you this way too much on the icon.
On the hardwood, I feel like I can pretty strongly
make this case. So the NBA Conference Finals are Wolves Thunder.
In the East, it's Pacers, Knicks. I don't think there
is a single team left in the NBA that people
who are not from that town root for. I don't

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know a single Nick fan who is not from New York.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Not one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
They're not like the Bulls or the Warriors, or the
Lakers or the Celtics. Like, if you're from New York,
you like the Knicks. Nobody jumps on a Knicks bandwagon. Ever,
none I can't think of a single one.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
And this just because for my boy, well, that's why
he's going to be at all the games.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I think that this is going to be a ratings
disaster in the NBA OKC and in Minnesota. The kids like,
they like s G A and they like Anthony Edwards
a lot. He's probably he's easily the most popular among
the kids. Who's left is him. But I don't know
any Timberwolves fans outside of people from Minnesota. And I
don't know any Thunder fans outside of people from Oklahoma

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City Jake Trotter and and with with Indy, it just
to I mean, they're not a bandwagon team. They know
this huge fan base. And the same is true of
the NHL. It's Panthers Canes in the East because Florida
beat Toronto yesterday, So it's it's that's in the East
and in the West it's Edmonton and Dallas. I mean

(01:17:53):
Edmund Edmonton is the best player in McDavid, but that's
as big an outposts as there is a North American
sports is den.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
Is Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
How far that is north? That's five hundred miles. I
grew up northern Montana near the border. It was five
hundred miles north from where I grew up. There's eight
hours kids, long ways, long ways.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Is it crazy that they've had great that that franchise though,
has had greats.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Kretzky McDavid and yeah, it's crazy, Yeah, totally totally is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
I feel like the Hartford Whaler should have had more superstars.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
It's a great great sweater Hartford the Whale, the Whale. Yeah, no,
it's but in both it's kind of like I think
it's gonna be really hard to gain attention from folks.
There aren't These are not BANDWAGONA Bowl situations at all. Yeah,
I mean, Nix and anybody would probably be what the

(01:18:56):
NBA is hoping for, because I think they could probably
sell either one of it. Like mentioned, Anthony Edwards is
most popular among the kids. Brock, who what do you got?
Who are you rooting?

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Oh? You got Indy? You going? Are you going? Pacers?
I think Knicks? Yeah, if the Knicks come out of
the finals.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Is he from? Is he really a Knicks fan? Give
me the ninety eight starting lineup they ran out against
the Spurs. Jalen Brunson, spree Well, Ewing was not on

(01:19:33):
that team.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
That's the Ewing theory fan, Yeah, that's the Ewing theory.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
The route Unree Well, Alan Houston, he just got it's
like the route running Alan. Yeah, it was Alan Houston,
Larry Johnson, Latrell spree Well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
I think Anthony Mason still there on that team, charl
Smith maybe he.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Maybe still was Marcus Camby, Cam Marcus cam he was
the big Okay they got they lost to the Spurs
with with Duncan and and oh no, no, did they
have Duncan at that point?

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I don't think they did.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
I think it was David Robinson.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Have Duncan n ninety eight, ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Ninety nine. My boy Antonio Daniels from Bowling Green was
the point guard.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
All right, here's your here it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
It's the ninety nine ninety nine finals.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Yeah, Jeff, Jeff van Gundy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Yep, they had.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Let's see, I think we have it. Yes, pretty well.
It was eighteen point six Houston, nineteen point seven All Star.
Ewing gets hurt after sixty two games and is out,
but he averaged at your fifteen points and ten boards.
Larry Johnson was eleven points a game. They had Charlie Ward,
Chunky Ward, Marcus Camby, Kurt Thomas A d was a

(01:20:55):
point guard for the Spurs. Chris Child.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
That was the year. It wasn't the season in short
because it was shorty game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah, that was the year before exactly because Jordan won
it in ninety seven ninety eight with the Bulls, and
this was the next year after he retired.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
YEP.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
The Knicks and the Pacers played in the Eastern Conference
Finals that year. Here are the final scores of the
NBA Finals that year for perspective. Game one Spurs eighty
ninety three, Knicks seventy seven, Game two Spurs eighty Knicks
sixty seven game These are finals Young b for the kids,
Knicks eighty nine, Spurs eighty one, Game four, Spurs ninety six,

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Knicks eighty nine, Game five, the deciding Game five was
a thrilling seventy eight seventy seven. Seventy eight seventy seven
was the Game five. Is the Spurs one in five
in that series? So all right, we'll do a little
we do a little thing or not a thing? Give me.
Is that what we got coming up? Yes, sir, we

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thing or not a thing? Hello gibbe Hi, gentlemen, real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
That ninety eight ninety nine Spurs roster that beat the
Knicks four games to one A d Tim Duncan was
on the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Team, Sewan Elliott, Mario, Elli Shawan, Elliott H.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Johnson, Steve Kerr.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Yeah, of course he was on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
So Avery was so your boy. Antonio Daniels was the
sixth man or was he the starting two?

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
No? No, no, was the one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
He would have been the backup.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
So he came in and was like the combo guard
coming off the bench because it was Avery Johnson, Elliott, Duncan,
Robinson and then who was the other guard?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
So you know what it was?

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
You ready for this, kids, It's a Vinnie del negro.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
I no really, no hold on.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Jerome Cursey was on the team. Will Purdue, David Robinson,
Malik Rose, Brandon Williams.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
This team was all about Malik Rose, curse at late
Jerome Cursey late in his career.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
I think Mario Ellio would have Jackson.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
The leading scorer was Duncan average twenty seven point four
for the series. Robinson was sixteen point Duncan average twenty
seven point four points and fourteen boards. Duncan was Robinson
was seventeen and twelve. Ellie was the third leading score
at eleven point six. Avery Johnson nine point two, Shawn
Elliott eight points per game, Jaron Jackson six point six,
Antonio Daniels. Antonio Daniels played twenty three minutes across four games.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
So games started Duncan, Johnson, Elliott and then obviously Robinson,
and then Mario Ellie was the other one. And then
Jared Jackson started thirteen. So Ellie, Mario Ellie did start
the majority of the games.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
He was in the in the finals, the starting lineup
was Avery Johnson, Ellie, Elliott, Robinson and Duncan.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
They started Jettison the year before.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
Yeah, they started all five and it actually was you
were right, It was that in ninety eight, ninety nine.
It was the shortened truncated season that they met in
the finals. The two thousand finals was Pacers Lakers. That
I remember which was Shaq, Kobe, Glenn Rice, Ron Harper,
Robert or Big Shot Bob and the starters wore Shaq, Kobe, Rice, Harper,

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and Ac Green shasstarter won.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Green still started.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
He's still sorry. He started all six games. UH and
Brian shasstarted one game for Kobe. Kobe didn't miss one
of the missed one of the games. In that championship series,
played five games. Shack averaged thirty eight seventeen, two and
a half assists and three blocks a game. Kobe was
fifteen four and four, Glen Rice was twelve UH and

(01:25:30):
Ronnie Hoppo was eleven and five on the assesss.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
He no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
How dominant thirty eight seventeen and three blocks. He shot
sixty one percent from the floor and thirty eight percent
from the line in that series.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
They won in five ye.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Glenn Rice shot sixty three percent from three in that
series and forty percent from the field. How do you
do that?

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Rick Fox was sixty two percent from three, Derek Fisher
was fifty eight percent from three, big shot. Bob was
only twenty sent from three, but I guarantee it was
a big one. And then the Pacers were led by
Reggie Miller, Jalen Rose, Austin Crochier, the Duncan Dutchman, Mark
Jackson Jackson and then Dale Davis. And they had Travis
Best Sam Perkins on the bench. A good team, too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Bad, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Give a thinging out a thing rapid fire go best
landing spots for remaining free agents from ESPN Matt ESPN's
Matt Bowen, Keenan Allen, he has Arizona Cardinals. Thing are
not a thing. Julian Blackman say the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Thing a little slot guy. Julian Blackman. I thought he
was maybe gonna be a Brown.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
So you think Keen Allen could be a thing?

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:26:46):
Wide receiver Amari Cooper, New York Football Jets. Thing are
not a thing, not a thing. I don't think that
feels like a thing. Running back JK. Dobbins, the commis
not a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
They've got. They've got a good thing going right now.
Brian Robinson's the hammer. Eckler is the small guy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
I like their duo going to jump down to a
Sante Samuel Junior Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
I say thing because aren't the Dolphins trying to trade
Jalen Ramsey and then they would need a corner.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Yep, yes, uh safety Justin Simmons, Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
I haven't really thought about it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Not a thing perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
I like Zadarius the Lions, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
He liked it there. He was bouncing around. He's very excited.
Still no rogers, by the way, still none, still none.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Just to I mean, just take you, take your time,
do whatever you need to do. We're willing to wait.
This is why I can't believe that that bad organization
is willing to wait.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
That's why I hope I'm wrong on this.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
I hope he goes there because he's gonna screw it on.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
I hope it's the other way, and I hope he doesn't.
If he doesn't go there, then they are going nowhere
because they're not going anywhere Mason Rudolph. So but if
he does, if he I think he's going there, and
I think it's known, I think that's the only way
it makes sense for me. If he does, I hope
I'm wrong on this and he says no, because for
that organization to do this all this offseason with no

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backup plan is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:28:20):
Top three trade fits from Met Bowen, Jayra Alexander Corner
to the Los Angeles Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:28:28):
I'm fine with that. I like Hendricks into Green Bay though.
I do like that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Yeah, get him out of here, get him out.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
And he's got Jalen Ramsey to the Rams.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
So uh they know it would send him back there.
And then it does make you wonder like if the
Rams are kind of loading for it here because you
start looking around the NFC and the NFC West is
a little down from what it's been. One more run.
I like the Stafford No, I like it to make
a run at it. DeVante Adams, Yeah, yeah, that's that

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makes a little bit of sense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Thing or not a thing? There you go? There you go?

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Are we so much more to come?

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Is that where we are?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Was the was the Preakness, a big head at the
hunt camp. Did anybody watch the Preakness race?

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
So they did, but it was on while we were
back out on Saturday, right for Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
It was six fifty eastern fifty years and then I
may have been running into the spring when they did.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
That was just a shock to the system. Yeah, it's
fifty three water, and I don't think it was fifty Like,
I think it was colder than that, even.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Though I mean even as we're as like it takes
a minute to slowly get the pool up to a
temperature that the kids will jump in, and even like
even seventy seventies cold when you're not like to just
jump in or like in the ocean. Yeah, we were
in southern California and it was the water is like
seventy two, and it was like, don't field of seventy two? Yeah,
and fifty cold. Fifty is cold, then it's really cold.

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tomorrow for his side of the tail. We look forward
to that very exciting. The next level is coming up next.

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