September 10, 2025 • 44 mins
Ambar Garcia, Voch Lombardi and Bryan Broaddus discuss latest Dallas Cowboys news and notes on Cowboys Break.
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Live in s WBC Studios and this is The Break
presented by l G. I'm here with Wotch and Brian
brought us. Derek will be back tomorrow. I keep saying
that he'd better come back tomorrow. We're gonna start talking
today about the breakdown with New York Giants offense versus
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the Cowboys defense. But before we get into that, let's
talk about some of the latest news happening here around
the building. The Cowboys brought in Jadavion Clowney. He's here
at the start for a visit with the team. And
yesterday we spent a big chunk of the of the
show talking about the Cowboys generating pressure and what they
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need to do to do that and all that and
then you got now a defensive end that they're bringing
in to look at, someone who's a veteran and has
a lot of time and experience in the NFL. Wanted
to get your thoughts and analysis and full breakdown on
a guy like him and what he could potentially bring
to the team. If the Cowboys do design decide to
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sign him.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, clown is a dude, and you can always have dudes.
There's always room to add dudes to your room. I
think he's a veteran pass rusher and the veteran side
is really gonna matter here. So if you have a
lot of young guys, right Donovan Azroku, if you find
yourself leaning on him too much, then Clowney is an
older character that can come in and teach us some things.
But more importantly, you don't want to lean on your
(02:11):
young guys too much. Bright, We're having this convoy about
j t right, J Toya, Like, Yeah, it's cool to
have Jtoya, but you don't want to lean on them
too much. You want the young guy to kind of
have it, you don't have uh as as as least
pressure on him as possible and just kind of grow
how you grow. So with the other guy that's not
here anymore, because people in the communis, Hey, we talked
about the other characters in Green Bay. Now Donovan is
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like your third pass rusher when guy is not here,
Donovan is your second pass rusher.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Now at least.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
With with Clowney, you you you bump guys down a
little bit. Plus Clowney is really good in the run game, too,
bright and the Cowboys need plenty of that moving forward.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Yeah, I think that you know when you're when you're
talking about these players and and know, and to me,
it's about identifying problems quickly. And if you feel like
that that maybe that you might be a little laxed
in one area. And people are probably saying, well, Dan, Brian,
you had one the best pass rushers in the National
Football League here earlier, you know, And but it's you know,
things move on and so you have to find a
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way to make adjustments along the way. We kind of
felt like that this edge group was one of the
strengths of this team, and so now are you not
happy with certain elements of that? I mean, I know,
vodch and I am. We've all talked about this is
you know, when with with Azaraku, young guy. You know,
you don't want to get in the way of him, uh,
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learning and playing along the way. You know, Marshawn Neelan
is another guy that you kind of feel like that
deserves more of an opportunity. So, you know, with Clowney there,
obviously they have something specific in mind if in fact
that he is going to sign here. And and Vach
you mentioned about the run the run defense stuff, that's
kind of been something he's been good at. Thought the
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older he's gotten, he's gotten better at that, so and
we'll see what, you know, what what other elements he
brings as far as a pass rusher. But yeah, it's uh,
you know if you if you feel like that you're
kind of struggling little bit in some of those areas well.
By all means, you'll just take a take a peek,
kick the tires and see what you get.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And there's always gonna be fans that are a little negative.
Speaker 9 (04:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm the YouTube guy, so I'm always reading chat to
see what you guys have to say. Sometimes, you know,
comment back, and the first thing that I kind of
see is that, well he's watched he's an older player.
Don't think about Clowny as like a first overall pick
kind of guy that's gonna come in here, get twenty
some sacks and change how you do things. That's not
really the case. But with past rushers, you can never
have too many of them. So even if Clowny's not
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a better pass rusher than Dante Fowler right now, is
he a better pass rusher than Sam Williams? Can he
get you more of a pass rusher than Marshawn Neeland.
I think that's something that you should be thinking about more,
you know, rather than is Clowny gonna be like a
one man situation to come in here and fix everything.
That's not going to be the case.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Here. You're just adding help to a room that needs
a little bit of help.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Well, that's exactly what I was gonna mention because has
been the negative comment happening right now with the age
and how old he is, looking at what happened last year,
What was he doing last year?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
He was in Carolina last year a decent, decent run guy.
He was a two and a half sack guy. But
when you're Carolina, team's beating the hell out of you,
so they're gonna run the ball a bunch, but prior
to that, nine sacks in the year before nine sacks,
So he's normally around the eight to nine sack range.
If he's with a team that's competing and we're playing
well and he gets to go and rush the passes sometimes, right,
(05:24):
I think that's kind of what you're getting here. So
just doing football, man, let's just say Clowny is a
seven sack guy for you. You can damn you seven
sacks out of somebody right now. So, yeah, he's older,
but I think he's good enough to help you somewhere.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
So, Brian, how do do you see a guy like
him if they choose to proceed and give him a
contract here with Dallas, how do you see him fitting
in with the defense?
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Well that's what you know, what Voch was kind of
talking about though, And you have to look at him. Now,
this is this guy. I think he's far from being
a starter anymore. I think this year looking at a
rotational player. And that's what Mattieberflus does. It kind of
goes back to his teaching with you know, with Rod Marinelli,
it's about the rotation. It's about a lot of getting
a lot of guys involved, getting a lot of bodies involved.
(06:09):
I just I'm kind of curious. I would like to
know kind of a fly on the wall situation where
they feel like though they might be lacking a little bit.
Week one that with the pass rush and stuff like
that wasn't it wasn't great. You got the pressures, you
got a quarterback that was holding the ball, you got
a quarterback that was struggling with his own coverage that
you were playing very very well. But you know, he's
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a guy that is capable and he is capable of
playing some run defense. I wonder if they're feeling like
that that maybe on the edges they're going to get
people that are going to try and run the ball
with them and against him. But you know, that's what
you got guys like you know, we you look at
you know, with with like I mentioned with Neelan and
in his ability to be able to you know, to
him to play. Maybe you're a little bit worried about
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foulor and that whole thing. But I just kind of
to me, this is one of those, uh, the defensive
tackle room and then the edge room was kind of
that I would think I'll let it ride for another week.
Lets see but obviously they feel like that he could
come in and bring them something as as a rotational piece, uh,
to to get through these games if in fact they
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do signing brou do.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
You think this is your DC saying I want to
rush four guys. I want to get pressure with four guys,
and man, we just let this imaginary player. The people
hate talking about now and it's easy to get pressure
with four guys. People people get so mad when you just.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He's still an elite NFL player.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Of course, but people goofy am, But how do you say,
goofy and Spanish company saying goofy and Spanish?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
How you saying that? Crazy as hell? Listen?
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You can?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You can get pressure rushing for if Michael Parsons is
around in around So now you're looking at your edge group.
Can you get pressure with four Flus doesn't want to
blitz a whole bunch. If Flues has to blitz like
versus the Eagles, we get to the second half, you
blitz a little bit more and it works for you. Cool,
but just who Flues is you want to rush for?
(08:05):
Throw a bunch of guys in coverage and hope that
you dink and dunk come up and tackle right, that's
his scheme.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So yeah, you need pass.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Rush guy and look, Brian, Honestly, this doesn't change how
I feel about Marshawn Nieland I still think Kneelinck should
be the first guy out there. Yeah, run defense, let
him continue to you know, you know, grow as a
pass rush guy, and then Dante Fowler to be the
other guy. Whatever you want to do. Sam as a
bigger body. I don't think that changes too much. But
in those packages where you do want to pass rush
a little bit more and you only get five, this
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may be more about James Houston or anything than the
top of your edge room, bro.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
I would kind of feel like that James Houston showed
you enough though that maybe that you'd want to get
him on the field more. And you know, and I
think if you want to go back and say, hey,
we're the things with that Fowler did. Did some of
the lack of some discipline? Did that kind of rub
you the wrong way? I wonder, and this is probably
something not good to say, but I wonder if they
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really feel liked it. You know, that they threw too
much it as iraku, you know, and they and they're
feeling like okay, and you know they've got to you've
got some veteran guys. But I wonder if it's like
they like, hey, let's let's get him some help as well,
and we'll give him let him bring him along slowly.
But me personally, I'm like, Hey, I'm gonna throw the
guy in the deep end pool and see if he
can swim, because I think he's got that kind of ability.
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And I just I don't think this is a progress stopper.
That was something that was always the buzzword around here.
Why are you bringing this guy in? Is he a
progress stopper? I I would really really like to know
why they're doing this, and I and I and I
would I would hope that it's not because they're not
they're not comfortable with what as Iraku has shown him
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so far.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I I wanted to ask you guys when you heard
the news of him coming into the building visiting with
the cows, were you guys surprised or shocked? Because yesterday
watched you mentioned you post a question, Okay, how long
do you guys wait? And we talked about the linebacker position,
different position, but how long do you give the linebackers
before you start looking for outside help, and then here's
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a different position. After week one they decide to bring
in or start looking outside for outside help to bring in.
Where you guys kind of surprised because this is something
that we don't typically see the Cowboys do they make
those moves like way later if any at all.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Honestly shouts out to Jerry and them because we normally
and when I say we, I mean like fans right
normally pissed off because the Cowboys are too reactive, Like
this is something that how we would do, Brian, Like, Hey,
I have a need right now. I'm gonna go find
a solution right now. And I don't think this is
stopping any of your other young guys. Hell, you can
put Donovan and Clowney out there together, let them rush together,
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and he'll still grow while Clowny is here. That's the
nature of pass rush. This ain't like quarterback where you
got to sit one guy and one guy plays, play
them all together and let them be one one big,
happy pass rush family. Or wouldn't that right, Brian? But
you know, be ahead of it as opposed to so
we're getting in the week two and three passed, We're
still a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Four or five.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Clowny just signed Arizona or something, but we still got
you know, we still need pass rush.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Oh boy, This other guy that could help is just
sign somewhere else. And now we're in week twelve. All right,
let's go sign some character we never heard of that
probably can't help us because we still need help in
week twelve.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, just sounds of the Jones.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
I have no problem with that. And you know, being
a pro personnel guy in the past, I mean staying
ahead of it. Botch is absolutely right. If you go back,
if you're one of those guys and gals that really
believe in what pro football focus, if you're if you
trust grades. Clowney's highest grade last year and the games
he played at Carolina was against the Dallas Cowboys, and
then he's got some other games where he's played very well.
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They played the Denver Broncos. It was one of his
higher grades. In Kansas City was one of his higher grades,
and it seemed like to me that some of the
better opponents were some of his better games last year.
If you look at the if you look at the metrics,
and you look at his grades again, if you trust
all those things. But obviously the pro personnel guy said,
you know, let's get ahead of this like Box is
talking about, let's bring the guy in, let's see what
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kind of shape he's in and uh, and then go
from there.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Well, you guys stay tuned to Dallascowboys dot com to
see whatever news happened throughout the day. If the Cowboys
do decide to sign him and get him on the roster,
and then we'll jump on another show and talk about
this and how it actually looks and when he would
be playing here with the team.
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All right, let's jump into this whole thing.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I'm gonna let Brian just do his thing with doing
his breakdown and then we'll get the conversation started with
this giant's offense.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Just got a text that we're kicking the tires on
this clowney thing.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh, kicking the tires.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
That's why your eyes were. You were looking at me
with like you had something.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Was letting you finish. Uh so, because I could have
just jumped in it over there.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
So so like kicking the tires, like you're probably not
buying it. You just kicking the tires, just seeing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Where you're at, where you're at, seeing where you're at.
So we'll see how But I just got that that
I got that.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Notice that's a funny, funny term because okay, I kicked
the tire. Let's they didn't roll it, like the tire
just right there. You're still there.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
The ambar is rich Bran, so she don't understand buying
by the cars, kick the tires, cash cars?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You know what a cash car is?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You mean when you're checking it, like taking the tires?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Okay, got money? She don't understand them. Problem.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hey, I've kicked in my visual.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
It's like a cartoonish type of visual where you're actually
seeing the tire kicking the can. Ye, kicking the can.
I'm sorry, I'm not a YouTuber like you. I'm sure
you're full of cash right now.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
I don't have no By the way, by the way,
before I get started today, well, well i'll let you
we'll talk about this tomorrow. There's something I gotta I
gotta talk to you guys about afterwards. It's exciting. It's exciting,
it's exciting. But yeah, why I brought it up? I
don't know New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Because the giants giants, because the Giants are not giants.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
That's what giants.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
But yeah, you guys are up for an award this
probably today, So okay the yeah, so uh. Fox helped
me on this one, just because you looked at this
football team as well. It's the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Is I we lived? Jason Garrett like to say about them.
When you look at.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
The Giants, I think that's the first place you're going
to start at is they've got Russell Wilson starting at quarterback.
And I don't necessarily think that's the best thing for
the New York Football Giants right now. I don't feel
like that. I don't think there's anything that Russell Wilson
can now do in order to beat you in a
football game. And there's still the ability to slide, to
move and all that. But as a passer, I don't
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feel like that that is a that is going to
One time in his life it was a deep passing game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It was with Seattle.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
It was, you know, throwing the ball in the middle
of the pocket, making a big, long chunk plays. I
don't think he has the capability of making chunk plays anymore.
If he's gonna make a chunk play, it's gonna be
with this likes.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, Brian, you know, the Giants are doing themselves a disservice.
And look, it ain't up to us to you know,
fix them. Hey, if y'all want to roll the worst
guy out there, then cool, do your thing. Just watching
Jackson Dark, I think Dark would give him a better opportunity.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
To win throwing the ball down the fielding the.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Ball, for sure, he throws it everywhere.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
He throws it over the middle, outside the numbers, deep,
you know, across or whatever. Russell is either gonna be
deep ball, check down, some short, some sort of play
action check down short, or he's gonna bail out and
run because pressure has gotten to him and that running
is mostly up the middle, right, Brian, So with this
offensive line that ain't good, I'm gonna let you go
over that. Yeah, Russ isn't really gonna beat up side
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the head. Neighbors is dangerous. But if it ain't neighbors
like bailing them out playing hero ball, then yeah, Russ
isn't really gonna try you, you know, all over the field.
He's either gonna try you in this spot or in
this spot.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Yeah, I think the thing with and you mentioned this
offensive line, and I'll scoot to that and then we'll
come back with with neighbors and Robinson and kind of
get an idea about that. The thing I noticed about
this offensive line last week. You we always talk about
where is the weak link on this offensive line? Where's
the guy that you can attack, Where's the defender you
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can attack. That's something big for us, you know, going
in these games. And I think it's like I say,
a former pro personnel guy, I always tried to ask
the coaches like, hey, where do you think? Where are
you thinking about this week? And then I'm like, well,
let me give you this. And with this Giant's offensive
line really across the board, you can attack this offensive line.
And know Andrew Thomas and I was talking with some folks.
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You know, he's their best tackle. He's the left tackle.
He was a first round pick in twenty twenty and
they really really rely on him. But he has been
dealing with injury, and you know, there needs to be
a ramp up period. There's a possibility that you're not
going to see him. He didn't see him a week one.
There's a possibly that you're not going to see him
in week two. So that means that James Hudson now
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becomes the left tackle for the Giants. And he is
a big, long, tall guy, kind of gangly in the
way he plays kind of all over the place with
his technique, but you know him, you can look at
attacking him. You could look at I think John Runyon
inside is a little bit better, a little bit stouter guy,
but he gives up some some pressures because he doesn't
always move his feet.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Greg von Rotten, the.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Right guard is a guy that has been had had
his share of problems. And then you also Jermaine Lemanor
has had his problems, but I think Vot's the guy
that has the biggest problems.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
This is their center.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
John Michael Smith's John Michael Smith is the reason people
on the internet say, hey, we should give Miley another
shot because look at how Will.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
He did against John Michael Smith's.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, John Will Miley will beat the hell out of
John Michael Smith every single time. And to me, if
that's the case, then just put somebody better over John
Michael Smith and would just party in that way. Bryan,
last week, the one guy that we were looking for
was Steam the right part, and that ended up benefiting us.
Tyler Stein was a guy that we were looking for.
We're also thinking about Dickerson, like if his back back
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layered up a little bit. Dickerson started off well, but
later but the more the game we're on, he did
kind of teil off. So we weren't right last week Brown,
So we are two for two this week, I think
you can go find the whole offensive line. Brian brons
Runyon is the best of them, but Hudson, Elemena and
Greg Van r.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Ritton.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
You can go find those guys, bron and you can
win in multiple you know, multiple ways. Elamenor lets DRIs
Armstrong run right right down the middle of him. So
if you're a guy like Marshawn Kneeling, you win with power.
Put Kneeland right over Elemanor, let him, let him bull
rush do whatever. Hudson kind of loses, he gets his
job done in a weird looking way, but you can
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still get around him. You can win on the inside.
You can run through them as well. Just pick a guy,
put him all over the place. We had this conversation
brought us when are we gonna start using Donvian Azeraku?
This week could be a fantastic week to do it.
If Genevian Clowney signs here, now you can free up
don even to move around a little bit. Do you
use him like you would use Michael. Line him up
over a center guard, slow footed center of guard, and
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let him run some loops, run some gaphic changes, slanting
things with that, I think you can do that, but
John Michael Smith is the main target. You had a
fantastic idea, Broan, just take Clark, line him up right
over him and shade him over his snappands snaphan.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
His right hand.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yeah, I think he's a right handed center. I think
that's where I would start Ambar. I would definitely put
him into a situation where you know, make John Michael
Smith's he really doesn't play all that well against power,
and he'll struggle with some quickness. He's a very athletic center.
The problem is though you can compress him. You can
compress elemanor the right tackle. You could take him back.
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I think he's got good pas sets. But there's going
to be some opportunities for this Dallas Cowboys defensive line
to be able to attack Russell Wilson, attack the pocket.
Make sure you make him play out of a well.
Rod Marinelli was talking with me about this anytime, a
long time well actually a long time ago, about when
you played Russell Wilson when he was with Seattle. You
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make him play backwards, you make him have to shorter guy,
make him play backwards, don't let him attack the line
of scrimmage. He used to be one of the best
off platform throwers that I've seen. But now it's a
little bit the feet work, the footwork, excuse me, the
arm he's slinging the ball side arm, he's trying to
sling it around people. He's fallen to the ground. It's
just not as as pretty as it once been. Once
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excuse me, once was with russ I like what.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You guys are saying, great opportunity for the Cowboys defensive
line with Russell a guy that he's getting up there
in Ah. He's been around the league for a really
long time. But when you talk about him having to
push back, is there any Does he have any kind
of mobility where you see him at this stage.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, for him to be able to escape and move around.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
He has mobility, And and like Vox was talking about,
the way he generally escapes is forward through the pocket.
He's really good at if you're collapsing around him. He
has this ability to get really small and then push forward.
And then as he's pushing forward, then he gets into
the into the second level and then into the secondary.
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So what happens is you squeeze him, you get bodies
to him and then on him and then be able
to grab him, because if you miss with your if
you miss with your grabb and we had that happen
a couple of times with the other day, with the
blitzing that they had with Bland and Digs and guys
like that. You get in the pocket and all of
a sudden, you guys like Hurts escape because you don't
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wrap up. If you don't wrap up on this guy,
he will slide forward in the pocket and he will
take off running. And that's something. Now, well we'll throw
this out there too. Is this a game? And and
and voch I'll ask you this question. If you didn't
spy Jalen Hurts, are you gonna spy this guy.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That was so fantastic? We bro what a question?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
The answer is nah, because Jalen Hursts is the more
dangerous Nah in age.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Hell nah, because.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
You know Russell isn't dangerous in the same way that
Hurts is dangerous. But you should for a practice, because
I think it's negligent. If you don't, you should just
get used to having that. That guy you know watching
quarterbacks spye whatever is a quarterback guy. For example, Shamar
James doesn't have to do all the linebacker things. But
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if he's only quarterback spy, then let's see if he
can't do it at least until Demo gets back, right,
because you have nothing but running quarterbacks coming up, so
you have to get used to it at some point.
Think about Russ though, that makes them different from Hurts.
Is I feel like Hurts wants to run, so you
should have been spying Hurts. Russell really doesn't want to run.
Russell got forty four yards of just bailing the hell
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out of just getting out of there, and that just
says what survival.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He's forty four yards of it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
So that's really what the Giants line did, like it'll rush,
Hurts will step up and dip out, and he did
that four or five times and it ended up being.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Let me ask you this, then, if you're the Giants
and after watching Week one Cowboys versus Eagles, yes, and
you see the result. There is that an area that
you try to incorporate into the game where you're now
asking Wilson to be more mobile, and you like make
that build that into your game plan.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I'm trying to be humble votch on this thing. I'm
trying not to poo poo on the Giants too much.
But but you just dealt with Russell Wilson. I mean,
parton me with Daylen hurts Wilson, ain't hurts Tyrone, Tracy,
ain't Barkley, the offensive line you just went up against.
Ain't these guys that you got to line up against
this week. Dallas Goddard much better than Bell and Gerald
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whoever they're gonna be playing tight end whatever right elite
neighbors is the big trouble here. But it's only one
of him as opposed to the two top tier wide
receivers that you just dealt with last week. Right, as
long as the Cowboys don't play with their food, as
long as they're focused on the task in hand, long
as they don't beat themselves a bunch of pre snap penalties,
as long as they're not too high on their own game,
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am bart, I can't even consider a world where we're going, oh, well,
it's better if Russell Wilson runs the ball here, and
we shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Make well, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
I've seen previous years where non popular quarterbacks like quarterbacks
of whatever, still were able to.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Run Carolina Carolina get it. But that could be Dallas
playing with their food a little bit. Walk into this
Giants game with the same attitude that you walked into
this Eagles game. And I don't see us having this
conversation of well, you would rather Russell Wilson beat you
with his arm.
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You can beat Russell Wilson. Always, just deal with it.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
You played Pittsburgh last year, right, Russell Wilson didn't really
beat upside the head passing the ball last year neither.
So just take that same game play and put it here,
and you know the cowboy should be fine.
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Welcome back to the first segment of the Break and
we are now going to talk about the running.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What do they have going on there?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
And is this an area where maybe I'm not gonna
say the word poo, Well, well we're not.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We're not gonna poop on anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
No, we don't do.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
They have a hard time making these good Tyrone Tracy
is a good player.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's a good player.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
But he rushed ten for twenty four yards last week
because the offensive line just didn't. It's this gonna live
and die by the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, I agree, and I agree.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
And whether they pass ball run the ball is gonna
come down to those guys. So on a regular day
with a good offensive line, I mean we we've seen
Tyrone Tracy like he had like nine hundred yards like
last year or something like that. Tracy can run. But
last but last week ten for twenty four running up
the middle. Dron Payne was right there tearing it up.
Louvu was coming down. They just they just the the Giants'
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offensive line just couldn't. They couldn't maintain blocks, they couldn't
move the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It was bad. So, uh, Tracy didn't really do very much.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, they are in absolutely right about this. It's say
It is a situation when you watch the when you
watch the Giants, and even with the combo block stuff
that they do, when they try and get together and
then get they just don't get any push and they
don't in these backs. You know Cam Skataboo, the rookie
from Arizona State, you know, they'll put him out as
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a wide receiver and throw him the football and you
know he'll you know, he could be tough to bring
down in the open field.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But when you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Why don't they because he was more of a he
did some physical running.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
In that's I mean, there was there was There was
a couple of times there where they I know one
time specifically that they they handed him the ball and
they just didn't get like Frankieluvu runs through just a
run through linebacker and he's met two yards in the
backfield and it's a negative play and then they kind
of go away from that. I have a feeling that
they're going to try and play him more this week.
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I think that I think that they're going to go
They're going to come into this game and try and maybe,
you know, see if they could play with a little
physicality with him, try and throw him the football, and
so I wouldn't be surprised. But their their offensive line,
it goes back to that. It's just they do not
have the ability to get enough push there. It's it's
very much of contact at the line of scrimmage, contact
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behind the line of scorch. The Cowboys used to have
that problem. And then last week, you know, they were
one of the better in the best in the league
or better in the league. This after week one of
like contact beyond the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Dallas had some.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Where they were getting push up front where they were
able to get some movement on watch and I did
some We did a video on our on our website,
on our show The Doing all Right that that talked
about that. There was a video where Vat showed you
how they were able to get pushed, whether it was
spanned forward, working with Guidon and you know, them getting pushed.
And then you got the pullers. The Giants lack all
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that they really really do.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And they're they're leading rusher brand was Russell Wilson. Yeah,
his forty four yards of bailing out was there was
their best rushing situation. So if you just see you
never know you know what you are correct, You never know,
So I always leave room for Cowboys. Don't play with
your food, don't make mistakes, don't let the Giants enter
this game.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But don't let him stay in the game.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Don't let him. Don't let him into this commanders.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Let him kind of stand the game.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
All the way to the end.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
But I think that says more about the Washington Football
Wizard than the actual Giants. The Cowboys have. They played
a much tougher opponent, much better. Yeah, last week, take
that same manage you put it here, there be.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, absolutely now an area where they could potentially, uh
face some challenges there with the wide receivers. And we
know there's a really good wide receiver there. So but
if you want to start talking about him and then
we'll get into the other wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I think so with Elik Neighbors.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
And you know, this is one of my LSU brothers,
and he's been, uh, he he's been outstanding even through
his you know, his last couple of years as far
as when they throw him the ball, his ability to
make the catch. He's a guy that he runs really
really smooth routes. You could see him in and out
of breaks. They have trouble getting him the football. But
remember the one time when his rookie season though, they
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loaded him up. They they yeah, they went they went
after Dallas in that one, and you know, and so
now it's going to be up up to you know,
how much shou the zone coverage are you going to
want to play against? You know, he played really a
zone coverage if you look at the metrics last week.
How much zone coverage do you want to play against
Russell Wilson here? You kind of feel like you could
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get pressure, You kind of feel like you could play
a little bit more man coverage. But neighbors is their
their their their best weapon on the outside. I would
say then Wandel Robertson would be the next best weapon
out of that. He wears number seventeen. They line him
up in the backfield, they line him up in a
bunch formations, They put him in the slot, They kind
of try and move him around. He's a guy they
play in motion with him. So when they're trying to
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throw quick screens and stuff like that, Wandel Robinson is
the guy. And on third down that seemed to where
Russell Wilson was trying to throw the football. He was
trying to find ways they were setting up pick plays,
rub plays. You know, I expect the same thing, and
you know, but it's a little bit hard to pick
and rub if you're playing zone coverage, so man coverage
it's a little bit you know, that might be something
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that we don't see in this game plan very very much,
especially if Dallas continues to play as much zone as
they have.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
So Brown, do you think flus is opposed to man
coverage or do you think that it was the Cowboys'
best chance to win by muddying the looks for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I think I think Hurts. When you look at the
metrics on Hurts, they will tell you that he is
a very low rated passer when he's having to deal
with man coverage ECTU. I mean, when he has to
do his own coverage. You make him have to read
secondaries and make him have to make that throw. It's
a little bit tougher when he sees man, he sees separation.
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He makes some really really good throws. Nothing against him,
but the metrics will tell you his passer rating against
man in verzone is there is a huge gap between
the two. And the thing with Russ. He's gonna get
the ball out quick in this game because they don't
trust their they do not trust their their group. That
ball is going to come out quick. And so this
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is where Robinson and Neighbors and those guys are gonna
probably that's where they're gonna have to live in this game.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Bron I actually think Neighbors may do a little more
than Brown.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And he's a good player, man.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Neighbors are so good.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
You can just kind of throw it up in his
general direction and he'll just come down with it.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
And what Russell wants to do is.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
To throw the ball deep anyway, like he's either gonna
check or just throw it deep in And as long
as you're giving Neighbors some kind of chance or a shot,
Herssel hold the ball a little bit and not even
give his guys a chance. RUSSELLI throw it down there.
Russeller missed and hit pay m Olives on the sideline
or something like that. But he will try and Neighbors
will come down with it. I think you can't let
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one Dal beat you. So one Dal is like their
turping guy. He's gonna run a lot of motion. He's
gonna be in the backfield sometimes he'll motion from the
back to why it slot, you know, wherever, and what
they're looking for, probably Brian is matchups. So they're gonna see,
all right, is Kenny Murray gonna run out there with
Wandale Robinson and boy, that'll be a nightmare if that's
the case. So that might be another reason why flew.
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You know, just run some zone and just we'll just
if Wandale Robinson runs into durn Blant, fine, but you
don't want Sam Born out there on the island with
Wandale Robinson.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
That's bad business. You don't want that.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
So I don't think the Cowboys are gonna travel very much.
I don't see this being a game where the Cowboys
do a whole bunch of man stuff, simply because the
Giants have a lot of you know, secondary type wide
receiver guys that can beat up on you know, certain matchups.
You don't want Donovan Wilson in man too much, or
you know something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
You say, Hooker's good to go. Hook Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
See this is where I was gonna bring up this
point though hookers toe. It seems to be everything will
be okay. It's told really not to worry about that.
But we'll see how's the week goes along with him.
But the thing that you have to be a little
bit concerned about with the Cowboys this week is you
did give up a fifty one yard pass, you know,
on a on a play that you know elam where
the safety got held in the middle of the field,
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where the hooker got held, and the Giants are probably
looking at that and thinking, Okay, we can get Slayton
the week. Yeah, we could get Slayton. You know, we
could get Hyat out there. You maybe get neighbors, you
get something vertical in this game where all of a
sudden that the safety played and if they're going to
throw the ball down the field or try to throw
the ball down the field, this is going to be
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about about hooker playing on the back end and hopefully
that ball will hang.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
So he can go make a play. Well.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
One of the brighter aspects for the Cowboys last week,
at least when they improve after that weather delay was
the secondary and some of the things that they show there.
So hopefully this is a good matchup where they're able
to capitalize on that.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
Yeah, you get more Digs, I mean Diggs is it
seems like Diggs is now medically clear to play more
of this football game. So Digs needs to be the
starter with Bland, and then Elam can come in and
then they can move Bland inside. But they need they
need to go with Bland and Digs, and I think
that'll be that'll be a good combination for them.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Brian, would you say that one Dale Robinson is a
better player than Dotson last week.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
I'd say so. I would think that they do more
with robertson his ability to move in the backfield, his
ability to catch the screens, his ability to get down
the field. Third down, they throw the ball to him,
They get bunch formation and throw the ball to him wide.
I don't see a lot of third down throws going
to Dotson that that home run ball was was was
probably a once a one off play for them, but
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I think it got Dallas's attention, or at least the
Giants attention, Like, Okay, if they're gonna if we could
hold the safety in the middle of the field with
a route and then run something on one on one,
I mean, I think it's a bit more difficult to
going against Digs and Bland. You know, Elim probably something
that they felt like that they could match up if
they could and win that one the right way.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Well, you guys just talked about neighbors and his ability
to catch contested balls and the skills that he has,
but also tying in.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
The court about pressure.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
The what you guys mentioned this being a game where
where the defensive line can generate those pressure. Is this
a game where you guys potentially foresee the ability to
get more interceptions, get more turnovers, generate those turnovers for
this Stefens.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Yeah, because Russell's gonna push the ball downfield when he's
not checking it down. But you you have to earn
d ball, right, Brian. So what they're gonna do is
a bunch of play action stuff. And it's weird how
much play action and stuff that they ran when the
run game didn't work at all. The Giants got a
lot to figure out over there. But what you have
to do is come up and tackle those guys first,
and then when Russell throws the ball downfield, that's gonna
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give you an opportunity to catch, you know, catch some
picks with I don't I don't really see Russell giving
you too much too, honestly, Brian, this may sound a
little crazy, I thought James will probably be a better
option than Russ because at least James will let it
rip a little bit more over the middle of the field,
kind of kind of kind of places where you're like
missing at or whatever. But Russell, Wilson short stuff, come
up and tackle. You'll be fine even if we don't
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get picked. His game, even if you don't get picks.
And Russell decides to be safe with the game or
with the ball, or he decides to run and not
take sex or whatever, or just th the ball away.
I could live with another game of not getting picked,
as long as you know Russell's not tearing it up downfield.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
The thing about too is Russ on one of the runs,
he had to the outside there, down on the goal line,
and he tried to run it in and got whacked
and then the funneled the ball. So you know, attack
him in the pocket, knock that ball out of his hand,
you know. But also if he's going to scramble, you know,
put a good put a good hit on him and
maybe get that ball to get loose.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Was that the only time or were there other times
in that first game of them?
Speaker 8 (42:39):
Kind of I just yeah, I just kind of thought
that he wasn't very accurate throwing the ball, and so
there were a lot of overthrows. So if he overthrows
in the middle of the field, that's where you're gonna
make your plays, you know, if the safety play if
he but they just don't throw. They just didn't throw
a lot of passes to the middle of field. Everything
seemed to me was outside the numbers, either checked down
or outside the numbers.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
And he missed to the sideline and yeah, and hit Pam.
It sounds like I'm like, I'm joking, but the ball
will really flat past the sideline for real, Like, so, yeah,
Russell Russ got issues over there.
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the beginning.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Of Russell Russell's My age. Now you know so.
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sign him.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, clown is a dude, and you can always have dudes.
There's always room to add dudes to your room. I
think he's a veteran pass rusher and the veteran side
is really gonna matter here. So if you have a
lot of young guys, right Donovan Azroku, if you find
yourself leaning on him too much, then Clowney is an
older character that can come in and teach us some things.
But more importantly, you don't want to lean on your
(02:11):
young guys too much. Bright, We're having this convoy about
j t right, J Toya, Like, Yeah, it's cool to
have Jtoya, but you don't want to lean on them
too much. You want the young guy to kind of
have it, you don't have uh as as as least
pressure on him as possible and just kind of grow
how you grow. So with the other guy that's not
here anymore, because people in the communis, Hey, we talked
about the other characters in Green Bay. Now Donovan is
(02:31):
like your third pass rusher when guy is not here,
Donovan is your second pass rusher.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Now at least.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
With with Clowney, you you you bump guys down a
little bit. Plus Clowney is really good in the run game, too,
bright and the Cowboys need plenty of that moving forward.
Speaker 8 (02:45):
Yeah, I think that you know when you're when you're
talking about these players and and know, and to me,
it's about identifying problems quickly. And if you feel like
that that maybe that you might be a little laxed
in one area. And people are probably saying, well, Dan, Brian,
you had one the best pass rushers in the National
Football League here earlier, you know, And but it's you know,
things move on and so you have to find a
(03:07):
way to make adjustments along the way. We kind of
felt like that this edge group was one of the
strengths of this team, and so now are you not
happy with certain elements of that? I mean, I know,
vodch and I am. We've all talked about this is
you know, when with with Azaraku, young guy. You know,
you don't want to get in the way of him, uh,
(03:28):
learning and playing along the way. You know, Marshawn Neelan
is another guy that you kind of feel like that
deserves more of an opportunity. So, you know, with Clowney there,
obviously they have something specific in mind if in fact
that he is going to sign here. And and Vach
you mentioned about the run the run defense stuff, that's
kind of been something he's been good at. Thought the
(03:48):
older he's gotten, he's gotten better at that, so and
we'll see what, you know, what what other elements he
brings as far as a pass rusher. But yeah, it's uh,
you know if you if you feel like that you're
kind of struggling little bit in some of those areas well.
By all means, you'll just take a take a peek,
kick the tires and see what you get.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And there's always gonna be fans that are a little negative.
Speaker 9 (04:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm the YouTube guy, so I'm always reading chat to
see what you guys have to say. Sometimes, you know,
comment back, and the first thing that I kind of
see is that, well he's watched he's an older player.
Don't think about Clowny as like a first overall pick
kind of guy that's gonna come in here, get twenty
some sacks and change how you do things. That's not
really the case. But with past rushers, you can never
have too many of them. So even if Clowny's not
(04:31):
a better pass rusher than Dante Fowler right now, is
he a better pass rusher than Sam Williams? Can he
get you more of a pass rusher than Marshawn Neeland.
I think that's something that you should be thinking about more,
you know, rather than is Clowny gonna be like a
one man situation to come in here and fix everything.
That's not going to be the case.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Here. You're just adding help to a room that needs
a little bit of help.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Well, that's exactly what I was gonna mention because has
been the negative comment happening right now with the age
and how old he is, looking at what happened last year,
What was he doing last year?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
He was in Carolina last year a decent, decent run guy.
He was a two and a half sack guy. But
when you're Carolina, team's beating the hell out of you,
so they're gonna run the ball a bunch, but prior
to that, nine sacks in the year before nine sacks,
So he's normally around the eight to nine sack range.
If he's with a team that's competing and we're playing
well and he gets to go and rush the passes sometimes, right,
(05:24):
I think that's kind of what you're getting here. So
just doing football, man, let's just say Clowny is a
seven sack guy for you. You can damn you seven
sacks out of somebody right now. So, yeah, he's older,
but I think he's good enough to help you somewhere.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
So, Brian, how do do you see a guy like
him if they choose to proceed and give him a
contract here with Dallas, how do you see him fitting
in with the defense?
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Well that's what you know, what Voch was kind of
talking about though, And you have to look at him. Now,
this is this guy. I think he's far from being
a starter anymore. I think this year looking at a
rotational player. And that's what Mattieberflus does. It kind of
goes back to his teaching with you know, with Rod Marinelli,
it's about the rotation. It's about a lot of getting
a lot of guys involved, getting a lot of bodies involved.
(06:09):
I just I'm kind of curious. I would like to
know kind of a fly on the wall situation where
they feel like though they might be lacking a little bit.
Week one that with the pass rush and stuff like
that wasn't it wasn't great. You got the pressures, you
got a quarterback that was holding the ball, you got
a quarterback that was struggling with his own coverage that
you were playing very very well. But you know, he's
(06:29):
a guy that is capable and he is capable of
playing some run defense. I wonder if they're feeling like
that that maybe on the edges they're going to get
people that are going to try and run the ball
with them and against him. But you know, that's what
you got guys like you know, we you look at
you know, with with like I mentioned with Neelan and
in his ability to be able to you know, to
him to play. Maybe you're a little bit worried about
(06:50):
foulor and that whole thing. But I just kind of
to me, this is one of those, uh, the defensive
tackle room and then the edge room was kind of
that I would think I'll let it ride for another week.
Lets see but obviously they feel like that he could
come in and bring them something as as a rotational piece, uh,
to to get through these games if in fact they
(07:12):
do signing brou do.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
You think this is your DC saying I want to
rush four guys. I want to get pressure with four guys,
and man, we just let this imaginary player. The people
hate talking about now and it's easy to get pressure
with four guys. People people get so mad when you just.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He's still an elite NFL player.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Of course, but people goofy am, But how do you say,
goofy and Spanish company saying goofy and Spanish?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
How you saying that? Crazy as hell? Listen?
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
You can?
Speaker 5 (07:44):
You can get pressure rushing for if Michael Parsons is
around in around So now you're looking at your edge group.
Can you get pressure with four Flus doesn't want to
blitz a whole bunch. If Flues has to blitz like
versus the Eagles, we get to the second half, you
blitz a little bit more and it works for you. Cool,
but just who Flues is you want to rush for?
(08:05):
Throw a bunch of guys in coverage and hope that
you dink and dunk come up and tackle right, that's
his scheme.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
So yeah, you need pass.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Rush guy and look, Brian, Honestly, this doesn't change how
I feel about Marshawn Nieland I still think Kneelinck should
be the first guy out there. Yeah, run defense, let
him continue to you know, you know, grow as a
pass rush guy, and then Dante Fowler to be the
other guy. Whatever you want to do. Sam as a
bigger body. I don't think that changes too much. But
in those packages where you do want to pass rush
a little bit more and you only get five, this
(08:34):
may be more about James Houston or anything than the
top of your edge room, bro.
Speaker 8 (08:39):
I would kind of feel like that James Houston showed
you enough though that maybe that you'd want to get
him on the field more. And you know, and I
think if you want to go back and say, hey,
we're the things with that Fowler did. Did some of
the lack of some discipline? Did that kind of rub
you the wrong way? I wonder, and this is probably
something not good to say, but I wonder if they
(09:00):
really feel liked it. You know, that they threw too
much it as iraku, you know, and they and they're
feeling like okay, and you know they've got to you've
got some veteran guys. But I wonder if it's like
they like, hey, let's let's get him some help as well,
and we'll give him let him bring him along slowly.
But me personally, I'm like, Hey, I'm gonna throw the
guy in the deep end pool and see if he
can swim, because I think he's got that kind of ability.
(09:23):
And I just I don't think this is a progress stopper.
That was something that was always the buzzword around here.
Why are you bringing this guy in? Is he a
progress stopper? I I would really really like to know
why they're doing this, and I and I and I
would I would hope that it's not because they're not
they're not comfortable with what as Iraku has shown him
(09:44):
so far.
Speaker 7 (09:45):
I I wanted to ask you guys when you heard
the news of him coming into the building visiting with
the cows, were you guys surprised or shocked? Because yesterday
watched you mentioned you post a question, Okay, how long
do you guys wait? And we talked about the linebacker position,
different position, but how long do you give the linebackers
before you start looking for outside help, and then here's
(10:07):
a different position. After week one they decide to bring
in or start looking outside for outside help to bring in.
Where you guys kind of surprised because this is something
that we don't typically see the Cowboys do they make
those moves like way later if any at all.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Honestly shouts out to Jerry and them because we normally
and when I say we, I mean like fans right
normally pissed off because the Cowboys are too reactive, Like
this is something that how we would do, Brian, Like, Hey,
I have a need right now. I'm gonna go find
a solution right now. And I don't think this is
stopping any of your other young guys. Hell, you can
put Donovan and Clowney out there together, let them rush together,
(10:45):
and he'll still grow while Clowny is here. That's the
nature of pass rush. This ain't like quarterback where you
got to sit one guy and one guy plays, play
them all together and let them be one one big,
happy pass rush family. Or wouldn't that right, Brian? But
you know, be ahead of it as opposed to so
we're getting in the week two and three passed, We're
still a problem.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Four or five.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Clowny just signed Arizona or something, but we still got
you know, we still need pass rush.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Oh boy, This other guy that could help is just
sign somewhere else. And now we're in week twelve. All right,
let's go sign some character we never heard of that
probably can't help us because we still need help in
week twelve.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, just sounds of the Jones.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
I have no problem with that. And you know, being
a pro personnel guy in the past, I mean staying
ahead of it. Botch is absolutely right. If you go back,
if you're one of those guys and gals that really
believe in what pro football focus, if you're if you
trust grades. Clowney's highest grade last year and the games
he played at Carolina was against the Dallas Cowboys, and
then he's got some other games where he's played very well.
(11:39):
They played the Denver Broncos. It was one of his
higher grades. In Kansas City was one of his higher grades,
and it seemed like to me that some of the
better opponents were some of his better games last year.
If you look at the if you look at the metrics,
and you look at his grades again, if you trust
all those things. But obviously the pro personnel guy said,
you know, let's get ahead of this like Box is
talking about, let's bring the guy in, let's see what
(12:00):
kind of shape he's in and uh, and then go
from there.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
Well, you guys stay tuned to Dallascowboys dot com to
see whatever news happened throughout the day. If the Cowboys
do decide to sign him and get him on the roster,
and then we'll jump on another show and talk about
this and how it actually looks and when he would
be playing here with the team.
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All right, let's jump into this whole thing.
Speaker 7 (15:32):
I'm gonna let Brian just do his thing with doing
his breakdown and then we'll get the conversation started with
this giant's offense.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Just got a text that we're kicking the tires on
this clowney thing.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh, kicking the tires.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
That's why your eyes were. You were looking at me
with like you had something.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Was letting you finish. Uh so, because I could have
just jumped in it over there.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
So so like kicking the tires, like you're probably not
buying it. You just kicking the tires, just seeing.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Where you're at, where you're at, seeing where you're at.
So we'll see how But I just got that that
I got that.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Notice that's a funny, funny term because okay, I kicked
the tire. Let's they didn't roll it, like the tire
just right there. You're still there.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
The ambar is rich Bran, so she don't understand buying
by the cars, kick the tires, cash cars?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You know what a cash car is?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You mean when you're checking it, like taking the tires?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Okay, got money? She don't understand them. Problem.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Hey, I've kicked in my visual.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
It's like a cartoonish type of visual where you're actually
seeing the tire kicking the can. Ye, kicking the can.
I'm sorry, I'm not a YouTuber like you. I'm sure
you're full of cash right now.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
I don't have no By the way, by the way,
before I get started today, well, well i'll let you
we'll talk about this tomorrow. There's something I gotta I
gotta talk to you guys about afterwards. It's exciting. It's exciting,
it's exciting. But yeah, why I brought it up? I
don't know New York Giants.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Because the giants giants, because the Giants are not giants.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
That's what giants.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
But yeah, you guys are up for an award this
probably today, So okay the yeah, so uh. Fox helped
me on this one, just because you looked at this
football team as well. It's the New York Football Giants.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Is I we lived? Jason Garrett like to say about them.
When you look at.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
The Giants, I think that's the first place you're going
to start at is they've got Russell Wilson starting at quarterback.
And I don't necessarily think that's the best thing for
the New York Football Giants right now. I don't feel
like that. I don't think there's anything that Russell Wilson
can now do in order to beat you in a
football game. And there's still the ability to slide, to
move and all that. But as a passer, I don't
(17:51):
feel like that that is a that is going to
One time in his life it was a deep passing game.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
It was with Seattle.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
It was, you know, throwing the ball in the middle
of the pocket, making a big, long chunk plays. I
don't think he has the capability of making chunk plays anymore.
If he's gonna make a chunk play, it's gonna be
with this likes.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Yeah, Brian, you know, the Giants are doing themselves a disservice.
And look, it ain't up to us to you know,
fix them. Hey, if y'all want to roll the worst
guy out there, then cool, do your thing. Just watching
Jackson Dark, I think Dark would give him a better opportunity.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
To win throwing the ball down the fielding the.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Ball, for sure, he throws it everywhere.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
He throws it over the middle, outside the numbers, deep,
you know, across or whatever. Russell is either gonna be
deep ball, check down, some short, some sort of play
action check down short, or he's gonna bail out and
run because pressure has gotten to him and that running
is mostly up the middle, right, Brian, So with this
offensive line that ain't good, I'm gonna let you go
over that. Yeah, Russ isn't really gonna beat up side
(18:48):
the head. Neighbors is dangerous. But if it ain't neighbors
like bailing them out playing hero ball, then yeah, Russ
isn't really gonna try you, you know, all over the field.
He's either gonna try you in this spot or in
this spot.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Yeah, I think the thing with and you mentioned this
offensive line, and I'll scoot to that and then we'll
come back with with neighbors and Robinson and kind of
get an idea about that. The thing I noticed about
this offensive line last week. You we always talk about
where is the weak link on this offensive line? Where's
the guy that you can attack, Where's the defender you
(19:21):
can attack. That's something big for us, you know, going
in these games. And I think it's like I say,
a former pro personnel guy, I always tried to ask
the coaches like, hey, where do you think? Where are
you thinking about this week? And then I'm like, well,
let me give you this. And with this Giant's offensive
line really across the board, you can attack this offensive line.
And know Andrew Thomas and I was talking with some folks.
(19:43):
You know, he's their best tackle. He's the left tackle.
He was a first round pick in twenty twenty and
they really really rely on him. But he has been
dealing with injury, and you know, there needs to be
a ramp up period. There's a possibility that you're not
going to see him. He didn't see him a week one.
There's a possibly that you're not going to see him
in week two. So that means that James Hudson now
(20:04):
becomes the left tackle for the Giants. And he is
a big, long, tall guy, kind of gangly in the
way he plays kind of all over the place with
his technique, but you know him, you can look at
attacking him. You could look at I think John Runyon
inside is a little bit better, a little bit stouter guy,
but he gives up some some pressures because he doesn't
always move his feet.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Greg von Rotten, the.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
Right guard is a guy that has been had had
his share of problems. And then you also Jermaine Lemanor
has had his problems, but I think Vot's the guy
that has the biggest problems.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
This is their center.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
John Michael Smith's John Michael Smith is the reason people
on the internet say, hey, we should give Miley another
shot because look at how Will.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
He did against John Michael Smith's.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah, John Will Miley will beat the hell out of
John Michael Smith every single time. And to me, if
that's the case, then just put somebody better over John
Michael Smith and would just party in that way. Bryan,
last week, the one guy that we were looking for
was Steam the right part, and that ended up benefiting us.
Tyler Stein was a guy that we were looking for.
We're also thinking about Dickerson, like if his back back
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layered up a little bit. Dickerson started off well, but
later but the more the game we're on, he did
kind of teil off. So we weren't right last week Brown,
So we are two for two this week, I think
you can go find the whole offensive line. Brian brons
Runyon is the best of them, but Hudson, Elemena and
Greg Van r.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Ritton.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
You can go find those guys, bron and you can
win in multiple you know, multiple ways. Elamenor lets DRIs
Armstrong run right right down the middle of him. So
if you're a guy like Marshawn Kneeling, you win with power.
Put Kneeland right over Elemanor, let him, let him bull
rush do whatever. Hudson kind of loses, he gets his
job done in a weird looking way, but you can
(21:55):
still get around him. You can win on the inside.
You can run through them as well. Just pick a guy,
put him all over the place. We had this conversation
brought us when are we gonna start using Donvian Azeraku?
This week could be a fantastic week to do it.
If Genevian Clowney signs here, now you can free up
don even to move around a little bit. Do you
use him like you would use Michael. Line him up
over a center guard, slow footed center of guard, and
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let him run some loops, run some gaphic changes, slanting
things with that, I think you can do that, but
John Michael Smith is the main target. You had a
fantastic idea, Broan, just take Clark, line him up right
over him and shade him over his snappands snaphan.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
His right hand.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Yeah, I think he's a right handed center. I think
that's where I would start Ambar. I would definitely put
him into a situation where you know, make John Michael
Smith's he really doesn't play all that well against power,
and he'll struggle with some quickness. He's a very athletic center.
The problem is though you can compress him. You can
compress elemanor the right tackle. You could take him back.
(22:53):
I think he's got good pas sets. But there's going
to be some opportunities for this Dallas Cowboys defensive line
to be able to attack Russell Wilson, attack the pocket.
Make sure you make him play out of a well.
Rod Marinelli was talking with me about this anytime, a
long time well actually a long time ago, about when
you played Russell Wilson when he was with Seattle. You
(23:13):
make him play backwards, you make him have to shorter guy,
make him play backwards, don't let him attack the line
of scrimmage. He used to be one of the best
off platform throwers that I've seen. But now it's a
little bit the feet work, the footwork, excuse me, the
arm he's slinging the ball side arm, he's trying to
sling it around people. He's fallen to the ground. It's
just not as as pretty as it once been. Once
(23:37):
excuse me, once was with russ I like what.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
You guys are saying, great opportunity for the Cowboys defensive
line with Russell a guy that he's getting up there
in Ah. He's been around the league for a really
long time. But when you talk about him having to
push back, is there any Does he have any kind
of mobility where you see him at this stage.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, for him to be able to escape and move around.
Speaker 8 (23:59):
He has mobility, And and like Vox was talking about,
the way he generally escapes is forward through the pocket.
He's really good at if you're collapsing around him. He
has this ability to get really small and then push forward.
And then as he's pushing forward, then he gets into
the into the second level and then into the secondary.
(24:21):
So what happens is you squeeze him, you get bodies
to him and then on him and then be able
to grab him, because if you miss with your if
you miss with your grabb and we had that happen
a couple of times with the other day, with the
blitzing that they had with Bland and Digs and guys
like that. You get in the pocket and all of
a sudden, you guys like Hurts escape because you don't
(24:42):
wrap up. If you don't wrap up on this guy,
he will slide forward in the pocket and he will
take off running. And that's something. Now, well we'll throw
this out there too. Is this a game? And and
and voch I'll ask you this question. If you didn't
spy Jalen Hurts, are you gonna spy this guy.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That was so fantastic? We bro what a question?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
The answer is nah, because Jalen Hursts is the more
dangerous Nah in age.
Speaker 10 (25:11):
Nah.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Hell nah, because.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
You know Russell isn't dangerous in the same way that
Hurts is dangerous. But you should for a practice, because
I think it's negligent. If you don't, you should just
get used to having that. That guy you know watching
quarterbacks spye whatever is a quarterback guy. For example, Shamar
James doesn't have to do all the linebacker things. But
(25:36):
if he's only quarterback spy, then let's see if he
can't do it at least until Demo gets back, right,
because you have nothing but running quarterbacks coming up, so
you have to get used to it at some point.
Think about Russ though, that makes them different from Hurts.
Is I feel like Hurts wants to run, so you
should have been spying Hurts. Russell really doesn't want to run.
Russell got forty four yards of just bailing the hell
(25:58):
out of just getting out of there, and that just
says what survival.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
He's forty four yards of it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
So that's really what the Giants line did, like it'll rush,
Hurts will step up and dip out, and he did
that four or five times and it ended up being.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Let me ask you this, then, if you're the Giants
and after watching Week one Cowboys versus Eagles, yes, and
you see the result. There is that an area that
you try to incorporate into the game where you're now
asking Wilson to be more mobile, and you like make
that build that into your game plan.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I'm trying to be humble votch on this thing. I'm
trying not to poo poo on the Giants too much.
But but you just dealt with Russell Wilson. I mean,
parton me with Daylen hurts Wilson, ain't hurts Tyrone, Tracy,
ain't Barkley, the offensive line you just went up against.
Ain't these guys that you got to line up against
this week. Dallas Goddard much better than Bell and Gerald
(26:58):
whoever they're gonna be playing tight end whatever right elite
neighbors is the big trouble here. But it's only one
of him as opposed to the two top tier wide
receivers that you just dealt with last week. Right, as
long as the Cowboys don't play with their food, as
long as they're focused on the task in hand, long
as they don't beat themselves a bunch of pre snap penalties,
as long as they're not too high on their own game,
(27:18):
am bart, I can't even consider a world where we're going, oh, well,
it's better if Russell Wilson runs the ball here, and
we shouldn't.
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Speaker 7 (27:27):
I've seen previous years where non popular quarterbacks like quarterbacks
of whatever, still were able to.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Run Carolina Carolina get it. But that could be Dallas
playing with their food a little bit. Walk into this
Giants game with the same attitude that you walked into
this Eagles game. And I don't see us having this
conversation of well, you would rather Russell Wilson beat you
with his arm.
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You can beat Russell Wilson. Always, just deal with it.
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You played Pittsburgh last year, right, Russell Wilson didn't really
beat upside the head passing the ball last year neither.
So just take that same game play and put it here,
and you know the cowboy should be fine.
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Welcome back to the first segment of the Break and
we are now going to talk about the running.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What do they have going on there?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
And is this an area where maybe I'm not gonna
say the word poo, Well, well we're not.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
We're not gonna poop on anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
No, we don't do.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
They have a hard time making these good Tyrone Tracy
is a good player.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's a good player.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
But he rushed ten for twenty four yards last week
because the offensive line just didn't. It's this gonna live
and die by the offensive line.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, I agree, and I agree.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
And whether they pass ball run the ball is gonna
come down to those guys. So on a regular day
with a good offensive line, I mean we we've seen
Tyrone Tracy like he had like nine hundred yards like
last year or something like that. Tracy can run. But
last but last week ten for twenty four running up
the middle. Dron Payne was right there tearing it up.
Louvu was coming down. They just they just the the Giants'
(31:47):
offensive line just couldn't. They couldn't maintain blocks, they couldn't
move the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
It was bad. So, uh, Tracy didn't really do very much.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, they are in absolutely right about this. It's say
It is a situation when you watch the when you
watch the Giants, and even with the combo block stuff
that they do, when they try and get together and
then get they just don't get any push and they
don't in these backs. You know Cam Skataboo, the rookie
from Arizona State, you know, they'll put him out as
(32:17):
a wide receiver and throw him the football and you
know he'll you know, he could be tough to bring
down in the open field.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But when you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Why don't they because he was more of a he
did some physical running.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
In that's I mean, there was there was There was
a couple of times there where they I know one
time specifically that they they handed him the ball and
they just didn't get like Frankieluvu runs through just a
run through linebacker and he's met two yards in the
backfield and it's a negative play and then they kind
of go away from that. I have a feeling that
they're going to try and play him more this week.
(32:51):
I think that I think that they're going to go
They're going to come into this game and try and maybe,
you know, see if they could play with a little
physicality with him, try and throw him the football, and
so I wouldn't be surprised. But their their offensive line,
it goes back to that. It's just they do not
have the ability to get enough push there. It's it's
very much of contact at the line of scrimmage, contact
(33:13):
behind the line of scorch. The Cowboys used to have
that problem. And then last week, you know, they were
one of the better in the best in the league
or better in the league. This after week one of
like contact beyond the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Dallas had some.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Where they were getting push up front where they were
able to get some movement on watch and I did
some We did a video on our on our website,
on our show The Doing all Right that that talked
about that. There was a video where Vat showed you
how they were able to get pushed, whether it was
spanned forward, working with Guidon and you know, them getting pushed.
And then you got the pullers. The Giants lack all
(33:48):
that they really really do.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And they're they're leading rusher brand was Russell Wilson. Yeah,
his forty four yards of bailing out was there was
their best rushing situation. So if you just see you
never know you know what you are correct, You never know,
So I always leave room for Cowboys. Don't play with
your food, don't make mistakes, don't let the Giants enter
this game.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
But don't let him stay in the game.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Don't let him. Don't let him into this commanders.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Let him kind of stand the game.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
All the way to the end.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
But I think that says more about the Washington Football
Wizard than the actual Giants. The Cowboys have. They played
a much tougher opponent, much better. Yeah, last week, take
that same manage you put it here, there be.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, absolutely now an area where they could potentially, uh
face some challenges there with the wide receivers. And we
know there's a really good wide receiver there. So but
if you want to start talking about him and then
we'll get into the other wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I think so with Elik Neighbors.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
And you know, this is one of my LSU brothers,
and he's been, uh, he he's been outstanding even through
his you know, his last couple of years as far
as when they throw him the ball, his ability to
make the catch. He's a guy that he runs really
really smooth routes. You could see him in and out
of breaks. They have trouble getting him the football. But
remember the one time when his rookie season though, they
(35:08):
loaded him up. They they yeah, they went they went
after Dallas in that one, and you know, and so
now it's going to be up up to you know,
how much shou the zone coverage are you going to
want to play against? You know, he played really a
zone coverage if you look at the metrics last week.
How much zone coverage do you want to play against
Russell Wilson here? You kind of feel like you could
(35:28):
get pressure, You kind of feel like you could play
a little bit more man coverage. But neighbors is their
their their their best weapon on the outside. I would
say then Wandel Robertson would be the next best weapon
out of that. He wears number seventeen. They line him
up in the backfield, they line him up in a
bunch formations, They put him in the slot, They kind
of try and move him around. He's a guy they
play in motion with him. So when they're trying to
(35:50):
throw quick screens and stuff like that, Wandel Robinson is
the guy. And on third down that seemed to where
Russell Wilson was trying to throw the football. He was
trying to find ways they were setting up pick plays,
rub plays. You know, I expect the same thing, and
you know, but it's a little bit hard to pick
and rub if you're playing zone coverage, so man coverage
it's a little bit you know, that might be something
(36:11):
that we don't see in this game plan very very much,
especially if Dallas continues to play as much zone as
they have.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
So Brown, do you think flus is opposed to man
coverage or do you think that it was the Cowboys'
best chance to win by muddying the looks for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
I think I think Hurts. When you look at the
metrics on Hurts, they will tell you that he is
a very low rated passer when he's having to deal
with man coverage ECTU. I mean, when he has to
do his own coverage. You make him have to read
secondaries and make him have to make that throw. It's
a little bit tougher when he sees man, he sees separation.
(36:48):
He makes some really really good throws. Nothing against him,
but the metrics will tell you his passer rating against
man in verzone is there is a huge gap between
the two. And the thing with Russ. He's gonna get
the ball out quick in this game because they don't
trust their they do not trust their their group. That
ball is going to come out quick. And so this
(37:08):
is where Robinson and Neighbors and those guys are gonna
probably that's where they're gonna have to live in this game.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
Bron I actually think Neighbors may do a little more
than Brown.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And he's a good player, man.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Neighbors are so good.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
You can just kind of throw it up in his
general direction and he'll just come down with it.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
And what Russell wants to do is.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
To throw the ball deep anyway, like he's either gonna
check or just throw it deep in And as long
as you're giving Neighbors some kind of chance or a shot,
Herssel hold the ball a little bit and not even
give his guys a chance. RUSSELLI throw it down there.
Russeller missed and hit pay m Olives on the sideline
or something like that. But he will try and Neighbors
will come down with it. I think you can't let
(37:50):
one Dal beat you. So one Dal is like their
turping guy. He's gonna run a lot of motion. He's
gonna be in the backfield sometimes he'll motion from the
back to why it slot, you know, wherever, and what
they're looking for, probably Brian is matchups. So they're gonna see,
all right, is Kenny Murray gonna run out there with
Wandale Robinson and boy, that'll be a nightmare if that's
the case. So that might be another reason why flew.
(38:12):
You know, just run some zone and just we'll just
if Wandale Robinson runs into durn Blant, fine, but you
don't want Sam Born out there on the island with
Wandale Robinson.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
That's bad business. You don't want that.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
So I don't think the Cowboys are gonna travel very much.
I don't see this being a game where the Cowboys
do a whole bunch of man stuff, simply because the
Giants have a lot of you know, secondary type wide
receiver guys that can beat up on you know, certain matchups.
You don't want Donovan Wilson in man too much, or
you know something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
You say, Hooker's good to go. Hook Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:43):
See this is where I was gonna bring up this
point though hookers toe. It seems to be everything will
be okay. It's told really not to worry about that.
But we'll see how's the week goes along with him.
But the thing that you have to be a little
bit concerned about with the Cowboys this week is you
did give up a fifty one yard pass, you know,
on a on a play that you know elam where
the safety got held in the middle of the field,
(39:05):
where the hooker got held, and the Giants are probably
looking at that and thinking, Okay, we can get Slayton
the week. Yeah, we could get Slayton. You know, we
could get Hyat out there. You maybe get neighbors, you
get something vertical in this game where all of a
sudden that the safety played and if they're going to
throw the ball down the field or try to throw
the ball down the field, this is going to be
(39:25):
about about hooker playing on the back end and hopefully
that ball will hang.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
So he can go make a play. Well.
Speaker 7 (39:32):
One of the brighter aspects for the Cowboys last week,
at least when they improve after that weather delay was
the secondary and some of the things that they show there.
So hopefully this is a good matchup where they're able
to capitalize on that.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
Yeah, you get more Digs, I mean Diggs is it
seems like Diggs is now medically clear to play more
of this football game. So Digs needs to be the
starter with Bland, and then Elam can come in and
then they can move Bland inside. But they need they
need to go with Bland and Digs, and I think
that'll be that'll be a good combination for them.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Brian, would you say that one Dale Robinson is a
better player than Dotson last week.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
I'd say so. I would think that they do more
with robertson his ability to move in the backfield, his
ability to catch the screens, his ability to get down
the field. Third down, they throw the ball to him,
They get bunch formation and throw the ball to him wide.
I don't see a lot of third down throws going
to Dotson that that home run ball was was was
probably a once a one off play for them, but
(40:30):
I think it got Dallas's attention, or at least the
Giants attention, Like, Okay, if they're gonna if we could
hold the safety in the middle of the field with
a route and then run something on one on one,
I mean, I think it's a bit more difficult to
going against Digs and Bland. You know, Elim probably something
that they felt like that they could match up if
they could and win that one the right way.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
Well, you guys just talked about neighbors and his ability
to catch contested balls and the skills that he has,
but also tying in.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
The court about pressure.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
The what you guys mentioned this being a game where
where the defensive line can generate those pressure. Is this
a game where you guys potentially foresee the ability to
get more interceptions, get more turnovers, generate those turnovers for
this Stefens.
Speaker 5 (41:16):
Yeah, because Russell's gonna push the ball downfield when he's
not checking it down. But you you have to earn
d ball, right, Brian. So what they're gonna do is
a bunch of play action stuff. And it's weird how
much play action and stuff that they ran when the
run game didn't work at all. The Giants got a
lot to figure out over there. But what you have
to do is come up and tackle those guys first,
and then when Russell throws the ball downfield, that's gonna
(41:38):
give you an opportunity to catch, you know, catch some
picks with I don't I don't really see Russell giving
you too much too, honestly, Brian, this may sound a
little crazy, I thought James will probably be a better
option than Russ because at least James will let it
rip a little bit more over the middle of the field,
kind of kind of kind of places where you're like
missing at or whatever. But Russell, Wilson short stuff, come
up and tackle. You'll be fine even if we don't
(42:00):
get picked. His game, even if you don't get picks.
And Russell decides to be safe with the game or
with the ball, or he decides to run and not
take sex or whatever, or just th the ball away.
I could live with another game of not getting picked,
as long as you know Russell's not tearing it up downfield.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
The thing about too is Russ on one of the runs,
he had to the outside there, down on the goal line,
and he tried to run it in and got whacked
and then the funneled the ball. So you know, attack
him in the pocket, knock that ball out of his hand,
you know. But also if he's going to scramble, you know,
put a good put a good hit on him and
maybe get that ball to get loose.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
Was that the only time or were there other times
in that first game of them?
Speaker 8 (42:39):
Kind of I just yeah, I just kind of thought
that he wasn't very accurate throwing the ball, and so
there were a lot of overthrows. So if he overthrows
in the middle of the field, that's where you're gonna
make your plays, you know, if the safety play if
he but they just don't throw. They just didn't throw
a lot of passes to the middle of field. Everything
seemed to me was outside the numbers, either checked down
or outside the numbers.
Speaker 5 (42:57):
And he missed to the sideline and yeah, and hit Pam.
It sounds like I'm like, I'm joking, but the ball
will really flat past the sideline for real, Like, so, yeah,
Russell Russ got issues over there.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
For Russell, I used to love him so much at
the beginning.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Of Russell Russell's My age. Now you know so.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Well.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
With that, we end the show today's show.
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