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That happens to Sunday noon Central time.
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We have some stuff that we'll talk about from that game,
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got some fun, some fun in store for us.
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She sent us a message.
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I didn't even know what it means. Brian had to go, oh,
she wants you to go boom boom boom. What you
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Going to tell lies here on there.
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So we're gonna do a little bit of that. Get
in the second segment, have a little fun with that.
You get to learn a lot about us and some
things that probably aren't true about us. But we'll do
that in the second segment, and we'll have some predictions
in the final segment before we end the show today.
Tell you what we think is going to happen on Sunday,
All right, Start first with some injury updates. Dante Fowler
did not practice due to an illness, Jonathan Mingo went
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from a full participant to did not participate with a knee,
Jack sanborn Uh still out with the concussion, Miles Sanders
went from limited to did not practice with knee and
an ankle, and Tyler Geiton, with a concussion, went from
limited to full participation. This morning, Jerry, are I guess
just a little while ago, Jerry said on the air
on one O five three of the Fan, that's looking
(02:18):
likely that that guiding maybe back this week from that
concussion and able to play.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What do we know?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I guess at this point, I guess I'll start first
with Jonathan Mingo. That certainly feels to me like let's
just take our time. Sure, was there a setback or
do you just think it's just kind of they're taking
their time a little bit with bringing them back because
they found that they've got some depth at wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Good old lives man don't need to rush it, you know,
back in the day, allegedly just from a you know,
from a fans, I sometimes it looks like they'll put
people on ir just to hold them over to next year.
I don't know if that's true or not. That's just
what it looks like sometimes, you know. But Mingo, his
window was open. I don't know if floor noy wasnoy.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't know what flow.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Uh, you know, I don't know if the coaching staff
have that much confidence inflow when they open up Mingo's window.
But Mingo's window was open and he was working, he
was practicing. Maybe if I had to assume that they
let Mingo practice just to kind of see where he's at,
and once they saw that Mingo's good to go, all right, cool,
Now you don't need to practice because we have a
feeling that you're good, but we don't need you right now,
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just by the way of roster dynamics. So you know,
you know, Wide Receiver is probably something that the Cowboys
feel really good about death wise, so there's no need
to rush him back. And you know, you always tell
me that you know, week by week some might have
somebody never know AFL.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Plus, I mean you can't bring Mingo back next week
when Turpin and City Lamb comes back. So we'll see
what this what this weight around period feels like.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
I will say, when I opened this, uh this email
and I just kept scrolling down, I'm like, oh my god,
this is a long list of people listed on the
injury report or practice report. So yeah, well, we'll see.
We've talked about it throughout the show. After the kind
(04:04):
of performance that we saw last Sunday. It does allow
the Cowboys to feel a little bit less pressure and
having to rush some of these guys back. So we'll
see as we move along and what are some of
the progress on that. Another guy, I don't know if
you even mentioned him already already forgot all the guys
(04:25):
you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I was actually I get the same one a
little bit more here, but go ahead.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
I was just gonna say that that's another one that Now,
obviously you don't want anyone to be hurt and you
want them to be available. He's currently dealing with the concussion.
He didn't practice on Wednesday or yesterday. But it's one
of those situations that I'm sure if fans are listening
to this, they're like, Okay, well, not that we want
him out, but hey, maybe it's okay. Maybe it's okay
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after some of the stuff that you were able to
see last weekend with Shamart James playing at the position
and the different that he brings. How many tackles did
he get fifteen fifteen total? So again, some of these guys,
you want them back healthy, but at the same time,
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it's allowing all of these other players to take advantage
of that opportunity and really show you a different look.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Now, see Sanborn got the you know, he's out, like
we already know, like he's in the protocols all that
he's gone. Now what was interesting is, just like with
the Mingo situation, Miles Sanders practice, he was available and
then he went to just not available anymore. So I
wonder does that have something to do with jaed on
Blue in particular, Like, Hey, maybe we want to see
what Blue does one more week and then maybe we'll
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bring miles miles back, you know, like not some emergency,
all right, we're rushing to have Sanders back, kind of
like they want Seed Lamb back as soon as he's available,
and Booker back. I think with some of these spots,
I think they can wait around and kind of feel
like there's no urgency at running back. You know, Wigs
being top dog and you know, you feel great about
him having you know, twenty twenty carries if if if needed,
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and if you got to give somebody else cares, give
five to Licky or something. But I think this coaching
staff just me allegedly nobody told me this. I think
they want to see Blue one more week, just see
if he can do a little something else, and if
he doesn't step all the way up or do something
that really catches our eye, Vin Sanders will probably be
right back in there.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Also, I was gonna say, real quick, that's also us
assuming that's kind of what's happening, could could It could
also be like, okay, you went out there limited and
now you're like, oh ah, all right, so now you
kind of went back a few steps. So it could
be either of us or that's fair.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, real quick, I want to go back to the
linebacker position because look, as I was watching that game back,
I noticed Sjamar James making a lot of tackles. And
this is a little weird. I'm trying to make see
the right way to say this. It wasn't like he
was making a lot of plays, even though he was
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making a lot of tackles. And the reason why I
say that is, for example, you get a tackle stat
if guy catches ten yard pass in front of you
and you tackle him, that's a tackle. It's not necessarily
a good play. It's just a tackle. And by the way,
it's better than the alternative of you not making the
tackle and the guy running for thirty yards for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But my question, you've.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Been complaining about tackles in general.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Now, yeah, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know what I'm saying, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
My thought is, in a week where you're playing a
running game that last week put up two hundred yards.
Is there concern that even though Sanborne hasn't been great
all the time. I do think Sanborne diagnosis better than
some of these young guys, and I think oftentimes he
can put himself in position to be able to make
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some plays. I think there's been inconsistency throughout the linebacker groups.
I don't think anybody has played great, But that all
being said, I do wonder if Sanborne is a better fit. Obviously,
injury is injury, you won't have that option. I do
wonder if Sanborne is a better fit for this week
over Shamar James.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I learned this watching corners and draft season a long
time ago. When you see a corner with a whole
bunch of tackles, they was they was looking for him.
They was looking for him in the passing game, you know.
So there will be these games where Anthony Brown was
the leading tackler for the Cowboys because they were throwing
in that direction. So with James, he didn't miss many tackles.
(08:22):
That was another thing that was going around. Oh, Shamar
James didn't miss any tackles. He probably didn't, but they
was all right in his vicinity and it was like
nine or so yards down the field. What you want
from James is to kind of see that quicker and
get there and maybe bat something down or maybe it's
a three yard game, or just lay it hit to
where they just miss. In general, like that's that's where
you want him to be. Samborne will definitely see that.
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He may not always get there, but it's not the
biggest games where the wide receiver or the tight end
whoever's catching it and then they get three more yards.
Samborne to be right there. Our gripe with Sanborn is
that if you was a little bit quicker, you may
have made a play on the ball.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
That's not where you're at right now.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So I guess the conversation that we, as you know,
viewers have to ask is do you want the faster
guy that'll get there? But he's young, so maybe he
needs more time on task to you know, see things
better and learn and all this kind of stuff. Samborne,
who who his ceiling is, is right where he's at
right now, but maybe he gives you better opportunities right now.
(09:22):
To your point, you're playing against Rico and them, you
you would probably you would probably rather honestly, you would
rather probably like Leah Foul or like Clark or something
like that, to come in and be a bigger body
and be aggressive in the run game.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
But you know, we will see.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
And don't get me wrong, I'm excited for the future
of Samar James. And this is not a knock on
Schamar James as much as it is. I think right now,
when you're playing a team that seems like they're the
prettiest student running the ball, you kind of want that.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Experience to be able.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
You can't afford to have the mistakes of slow to read,
slow to react, and then you get there, you know,
you want to have somebody who really sees what's going on,
and that's where you know. I'm I just wonder if
this is a week where you're really gonna miss the
experience of Jack Sanborn if he is not able to
go because of the concussion.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
On the same token too with the Panthers, like you
probably don't need a whole bunch of diagnosing here, Like
Rico is probably just gonna run right at you, so
you may rather the guy that's not gonna miss tackles
and Sandborn he'll get there, but he will miss the tackle.
Last week he had like two or three. Shamar did
not miss any. So if Shamar is the better tackler,
and this is the week where he has to air
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quote think less than sure than playm and just roll
with what are you think I.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Was gonna say with uh? One thing, we don't have
to make the decision now because the concussion protocol is
the concusion concussion protocol. So there's that. But in regards
to the differences between the two, yes, you're always gonna
go for experience and whoever can make that read a
lot faster. But at the same time, with Shamar James,
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when we talk about his speed, maybe that does by
him the little time of like his so quick, even
though it takes him a little bit more to figure out, Okay,
where am I going? Where's that? It's still he's quick
and once he gets there, he's gonna make the tackle.
So what I'm trying to say is I feel like
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there's not a huge drop off. He can make up
with his speed what he doesn't have just yet with
the knowledge or the quickness and making those reads. And again,
it's one of those things that you're only going to
get that experience by being out there on a real
football game and being on the field and being in
real time game day type of plays and all that.
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So I'm okay with it right now. I'm excited for
the future that he brings in Sanborn. I don't hate
him or anything. I like him too. But again, he's
been highly criticized throughout the weeks because of those mistakes.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
There's no right answer with linebacker, you know, like there's
the right answer for running back, wire, receiver, all these
other spots offensive line, there's no right Like they're all
right in that middle that we want them to be better.
So just play him and figure it out.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
All right, Let's talk a little bit about the running
back position. Last week, Jayden Blue got his first opportunities
with the Cowboys. It's it's interesting because when you've got
a guy who's playing as well as Javonte Williams, it's
almost like you're only bringing him out to spell him.
You're not like giving, you're not trying to split carries.
And I think he has earned the right to be
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the main, you know, main back and you can keep
him in for every down, So there really isn't a
need to necessarily bring Blue in. What were your thoughts
on what you did see from Blue and the few
opportunities that he got.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I think Blue's biggest play from what the coaches could
see and what they really care about. And you know,
I don't want to assume that fans missing because we
have some educated viewers. There was this pass to the
left side of the field to Flower.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
NOI flow to flow there and Flow didn't catch it
or whatever, but it was an attempt on that side
and the Cowboys slid three to the right.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
There was a blitz coming down and Jayda on Blue
perfectly stated Blue perfectly, Jaydon perfectly stepped up and uh,
it was probably like backside a or something like that.
Stone the linebacker at the line of scrimmage and gave
that time to make the play. It wasn't a completion
and if you won, if you weren't paying attention, if
you was drinking, texting your girlfriend, you might have missed it.
(13:18):
But Jayda on Blue, like just going back watching the film,
the technique of it, the timing of it, you know,
him not just waiting around next to deck. They don't
want running back to do that because if you hit
the running back, you don't want the running back to
get knocked into deck, step all the way up into
it from depth and make the block and seal it.
And Dak had a pretty little pocket to make the throw.
It's just that the dbach just made a better play.
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I think that's what coaches are looking for.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
We know Jayda.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Jayden, Jayden Blue. We know Blue can run fast. We
know that he's probably one of the one of the
faster players on your offense there. So it's not the
running ability that the Cowboys are questioning. It's the technical
things as to where you're going to line up if
you're in motion, are you going to start in the
right place in motion to the next correct place? And
on third down you step up and block. And I
think that was the biggest play for him last week.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
You know when someone comes in the office and it's like, oh,
we got fresh cookies. Where up there?
Speaker 10 (14:13):
We got some fresh cookies and they're in the breakroom,
and then you and then you go and then you
see the box and you just see all the crumbs
left in there, and you're like, oh, so, probably not
a great analogy, but that's kind of how I fell
in the sense like, Okay, I'm getting so amped up
and excited about Okay, what I'm about to see that's crazy,
(14:42):
hold on, hold on, but but yes, in the sense
of I was expecting to.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
See a lot more and it didn't happen. However, that
doesn't mean I do want to keep giving the benefit
of the doubt and wait and see what he does
get a lot more chances. I will say in one
of those runs that he had when he first got
on the field, that he started kind of making those
breaks and you're like, oh, oh, oh, there he goes Okay,
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So that just it illustrates his ability. He does have
the ability to have that quickness and making those breaks
and avoiding some of those tackles that when you look
at it, you think he's about to get tackled, but
that he doesn't. So what do you call that elusiveness?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Elusiveness?
Speaker 8 (15:31):
I am curious. I'm not ready to give up on him.
I don't think anybody is. But I am curious to
see what else he can do once he gets more
play time and what.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I would love to see from him.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
And I don't know, you know, a lot of it
may be just the function of he hasn't had opportunity
or the time to really understand the offense in that way.
But I'd love to see them move him around more.
I think right now with turping out, that's where the
real opportunity is and using him kind of as a
gadget play a little bit where you can maybe have
him and Gavonte Williams on the field the same time.
Maybe he lines up in the slot, maybe he lines
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up in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You could do some different things with him.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
But that's also sometimes what you requires a little more
time on task for a player to be comfortable having
all those kinds of different roles, and he may just
not have had that much time to get comfortable with
that and for the coaches to feel comfortable with that.
But that's where I think the real opportunity exists right
now with Turpin being out. All right, we're gonna take
our first break and we come back. We'll have a
little yetty time with ag and then we'll get into
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have some phone calls to day. Have you guys call
us and talk to us a little bit. We'll see
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get to figure out which one is the lie. So
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once we go around the table, you guys give us
three things. Each person gets to ask one question. And
this is where I'm gonna involve you guys in the
chat as well on YouTube.
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By the way, if you're on YouTube watching live, that's
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Speaker 8 (20:00):
Yeah, YouTube live on the chat. So you guys, please,
after you hear them give their three points sending some questions,
I'll pick the best one to ask them or not person,
and then I'll let you guys vote as well as
we try to figure out who or what is the lie.
I should say, all right, you want to get it started, Dirk.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Sure, you let me go first. I'll go. I'll go first.
All right, all right, all right, here we go first.
First point.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I was once in a singing group called the Eb's
short for Eagleton.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Boys, Thank God, number number two.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Prior to working for the Cowboys, I played drums professionally
for a local band, number three. My first job was
selling the Houston Post in front of Kroger's on weekends.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Okay, what was.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The genre of the.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Eb's Go, Well, okay, you're a church man.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But they also came up in a Nwjack Swing era.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
So if you're gonna be I did not come up
in Nwjack Swing. I was in college by the time
Nwjack eighty nine I was. I was heading to I
was like, I graduate high school ninety one.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
So that's right there, man, that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Uh Eagleton's there has to be a bunch of people
in his family, right.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
A church group would be family members if it was
if it was just some boy you know, some boy band,
it might be your brother and some friends.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
But if you if you was in the church, they'll
make it more about the church and not like you.
They wouldn't let you be a narcissist in church. I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna say the egs don't.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Even I got to ask you questions that you can
he can go on this third point that you gave us,
it was you were selling what newspaper?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yes, selling newspapers in front of Kroger's.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Yeah, okay, what was the time? What was your schedule?
What time did you get It.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Would be on Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I would get there usually around eight thirty in the morning,
and I would be there until about two or three
in the afternoon something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I changed my ass because if you sell a newspaper,
you selling them jowings from six in the morning.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Newspaper people going early yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Look at his faith, Look at you don't want getty
nothing away?
Speaker 8 (22:29):
All right, let me see what does the child.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
But the Black Church won't let you be a narciss
and make it about you. They won't.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
They won't let you do that. They'll be like, uh, oh,
Dane's boys about to come up here and sing a
song for us. Boy, Yeah, but not the egs Eb's.
Eb's not the eeds. The eagleson got eagant the boys. Yeah,
they wouldn't let you do that in church. Now I'm
standing on the eb's, I'm standing on business with the
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I'm standing on business.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, all right, where you going aver?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
All right, I'm gonna go with the newspaper, okay. And
then over here the saying, oh they ain't sold newspaper
in a long time, that touched yeah all right. So yeah,
some people are saying that the newspaper is a lie
(23:21):
as well. They say candy bars, but not newspaper.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Because because I believe in the nineties that's when they
made the newspaper machine with the put the quarters in
and then you open and get the newspapers.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
How were you?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
He might be old enough twelve, He might be old
enough to where they actually had to sell newspaper. He
had to be a paper boy.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
And yeah, in ancient time. That's kind of.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
In front of Kroger, in front of.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Kroger, a telve year old by himself.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'm gonna go with the eg's because black Church, eb eb.
I'm going with the eb's.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
All right. Everyone in the chat is saying that the
newspaper is a lie, and I'm gonna roll with the
newspaper as well.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
All right? Is that final answer, sir? All y'all wrong?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I never played the drums professionally. I played the drums
playing playing all my life.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Okay, you're such a cheater.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
That's fair, that's fair. But that's fair.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That is fair in a game like this, details small, small,
small details and manipulation.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
That's a good life.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
And I said professionally with a local band. I've never
played professionally or with a band like I've always played.
I played jazz band high school. I never played for
an actual band and dig gigs.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
I bet the told up and the eben, I bet
y'all cold.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, bruh, we could we could turn.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Churches did have like youth days where they had like
youth we.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Said, you were saying if we sang, and it didn't
have to just be you everybody, we were good enough
for adult days are coming up next.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, we killed it.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
We killed it. My cousin Corey, my cousin Damon, brother Kwame, and.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Me eb I just see how.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
No, but honestly on the newspaper, yeah I did. I saw.
That was my first job.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I would go out there every Saturday and Sunday morning
because I was just like, I want to work, and uh,
you know, I came from we didn't have a lot
of money, so I was.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Kids was working if I if I could make some money.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I was like, I was looking, and I looked in
the newspaper to find the job. So I was looking online.
I mean looking, there was no online. I was looking
in the newspaper. I saw, hey, do you want to
you know, sell newspapers? And I was like, oh, sign
me up, and literally with my mom would drop me
off at the Kroger and I would just sit out
front and uh. They would deliver the papers to me
(25:40):
and I sit out front and pay a dollar for
a newspaper, and I had my competition was sitting right
across the door from me, this guy named Nick that
was selling the Houston Chronicle. And we would duel back
and forth like seeing who's going to sell the most papers.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Okay, good for you. I'm still you're so sneaky. That's
not because you know what he did three years ago
or we played this game like three years ago, and
his life was I have like fifteen brand like the branding, yeah,
which he does. All he did was change the total
(26:15):
of the numbers. I'm like, bro, like, who's gonna know
the total? Like all we know is that you do
have them. But it's okay, it's a game. Don't hate,
all right, all right, good for you, go ahead of watch.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I'm gonna put my glasses on. So y'all know what
I'm lying this This might be terrible. I just can't
be like, I have a hundred thousand strips on YouTube.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
I work for a dollar.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I can't say that, you know what I'm saying. I
gotta go way back, Okay, way back is way back,
as you just like two thousand and nine from a
glass on.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Y'all know what I'm lying yesterday.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
And I'm gonna look right at the camera too. Did
you know?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
In two thousand and nine, I played against Dak Prescott
in a high school football game. In that same game
where I played center, former Cowboys de tackled Justin Hamilton
was my left guard. After we were defeated, I graduated
(27:12):
and I coached football for three years. That last year
I coached under Brett Farv. I coached offense under Brett Farv.
Two Truths, One life.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
So Brett Farv the playing against Dak and.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Former Cowboy defensive tackle Justin Hamilton was my left guard.
M okay, all this happened in Misssippi. By the way,
in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
How old are you?
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Thirty three?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
How far is Hattisburg from Natchez our thirty? Was that
where you were? You were? And you were in Hattisville.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Haddisburg, missips That's where I went to college sevens. I
didn't want to go to Alcorn because that was like
two minutes away. I wanted to get a way.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I wanted to get away.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
So how was this whole coaching experience?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
How was it. Yeah, I was a graduate assistant for Natchez.
That's where I played high school football. Sometimes when you
play football and you don't know what you want to do,
you say, damn, i's going to go into coaching. And
I went into coaching, and I was, I was. I
would travel back and forth. I was a GA and
coach was like, hey, man, you know that they got
football in Hattiesburg. He ain't got to come all the
way down here. And yeah, they got they got football
(28:27):
teams in Hattiesburg. And Brettfall was coaching at Hattisburg oh
Grove High School to be exactly.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, m so was that was that a district game?
When you played against DK?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Playoffs? Playoffs? Okay, okay, I got my answer, go to
the check suit time.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Well, no one, no one's really sending a question. I guess.
The only questions that I see here is when did
you coach?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I graduated in twenty ten, so from twenty ten to
like twenty fifteen.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
I was coaching. Okay, bounced around three schools. That is
how Haddisburg Grove.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Call in Mississippi Hadburg mm hmmm. He just told him,
you know what you did right now? Though, you know
what you did right there?
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know you did right now?
Speaker 8 (29:18):
All right, the vast majority in the chat, they're all
saying that Dak is a lie. You're playing against Dak.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
What do y'all say?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I say, Dak.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Same, I'm gonna go with Dak.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Dak played football in Louisiam.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
There you go. I was like, that's why you messed up.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Didn't playsp But some people be like, oh, he went
to Mississippi State, right, I did play against Tyler Russell
and Meridian, and he went to Mississippi State where he
played you know, played over that or whatever. But now
I did not physically play, uh verse in the same
age group the way.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
You screwed up that he said it was a playoff game, yeah,
because if it was like a regular season game, Louisiana
may play.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
You.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I mean, that was that was it.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
But look, but look, only y'all who like super football
people know hard in Louisiana. It's right down the street
for us. But only y'all know hard in Louisiana because
the day I.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Also figured at some point if you would have played
back in high school, you would have mentioned by the
way I played.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
And I've played, I played kJ Wright in high school,
I played what's my man played for the Patriots. He
was a linebacker. Uh damn. I always talk about him
because there's this this, this crazy, not veryable. He's a
he's a black guy. Uh can't even think of his name.
But he played at Franklin County and he went pro
(30:48):
and it was a big deal for everybody. And the
newspaper got me looking funny, like I'm bracing myself. But
he's just fastening what he really was. And it's a
couple of the guys played played around there. I can't
even can't think of the name because we're on air
right now. If if we was off somewhere and I
ain't thinking about it, I'll come up with those names quickly.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
But you know, Stephen really played.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Play running back and play running back. All these guys,
there's some it's some pros.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
In the area, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know y'all had a few we.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Have, But justin Hamilton, he was he was my left guard.
He was right here and he was up there on me,
and we'll go out there and move everybody around, y'all
move bodies. It was a good time, good time. I
actually did did a video about it. It was cool, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You're not good at lying, but that's a good thing.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
I'm good. I don't lie. I don't tell you.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Did you want to do mine? Or do we just
want to do your?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Do yours?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Because you just fast? You got to remove quick.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
All right? I dance salsa with a player.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Sorry, well that's true, because Derek laugh, that's true.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Go ahead one of these next to it, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Right outside meeting rooms. I had to stop a fan
from a fight. And the third one is I went
to a French school in the Caribbean.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
You ain't stopping nobody from beating up nobody a fan
from fighting. You ain't stopping nobody from beating them. Nobody,
ask your question. Jamie Collins was a player, Frank count
you you you ain't stopping nobody from from from fighting.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
What was the third one against?
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Aye went to a French school in the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, all right, a French school in the Caribbeans. Now,
I uh, I think I know which one it is?
Speaker 8 (32:42):
From me and from the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
What was you doing in the Caribbeans? What you're doing over?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Someone? Get this man in the map place you do
realize Dominican in the Caribbean.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Oh yes, Oh shoot, get this guy who knows dr
is in the Caribbean. I never been nowhere from I'm
trying to travel. Now the cowboys pay me some moment.
The cowboys pay me some more. I traveling go places.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
All right, next time we go, next time we take,
we might give it in your whole life. Oh well,
fighting then that's my original. You ain't breaking, you ain't
breaking them.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
No fight.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Then I learned something new today, thank y'all for I
thought it was two different places.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
No, it's in the Caribbean. It's in the I thought
black peoples in the Caribbean. They are. But that doesn't
mean she couldn't be from the Caribbean too.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
That Dominican.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Do you realize Spaniards the colonizers that just come to
a country and you gotta mix up both, you get
all colors.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I know all about colonization and uh taking people over
because I'm from Missis My ancestor was sold there. I
get it. I understand. I just thought geographically there was
just two different places.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
No, it's in the Caribbean. It's got a lot of islands.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
So it's one of state and like in like one
like a like a territory or something like.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Why didn't I notice?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I'm not a shamed.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
The educational system in Mississippi is why you didn't notice.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
But I'm just actually I should have. I was.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Actually I graduated top five in my school.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Sure did?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I graduated six? Okay? Cool? Look it out.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Look at us.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's doing big thing.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But they ain't teach us nothing about geography, nothing about
all that.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
All right?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
My answer is my answer is I don't think my
memory could be wrong. I don't think you dance with
that player outside of team medium. I thought it was
outside the locker room.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But I could be wrong on that, but that's gonna
be my answer.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Okay, I got a new question.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Since it's all the same damn place geographically, Then how
did you break up the.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Fight it was about to start?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, okay, what you breaking up a fight?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
You would more like to jump in the fight than
break up.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Have you heard the word the escalation? Sure de escalated
the situation. So I'm not saying I got in there
throwing punches or anything, but I was like, okay, separated
the two. You know, this is not the place a fan,
they get rowdy.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You don't care about no fan fighting nobody. I'm going
to towo's the lie breaking up the fight from the fan.
It's some it's some fans fight right now. You're gonna
run out there and bring it up and de escalated.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
No, but if you're standing nearby me, you gotta do something.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
I'm gonna just.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
You didn't break up that fight that night we were
at that cheese steak place in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Did you?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Okay, she didn't bring up a fight.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
No, let me run away the other place like I
really got here.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And bringing the line of me. Act like she's Batman
or something. She she she ain't breaking up no fights.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Number two for.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Me, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with
number one. I could be wrong now now I'm thinking
about it. I could be wrong now, but I'm gonna
go at number one.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
Okay. See they're saying I'm a mom. I have the
strength that some people are saying I could break off
the five.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I got baby strength, not not grown people fighting strength.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Remember, looks like she got hands. I do actually, but yeah,
you're right, of course, even if.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You got hands, right, Yeah, what do you train like
what you train something I.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Did? I did even even in that. They don't beat
a girl up. Yeah, and he got promotive with another belt.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
They wouldn't recommend you get into a middle of a
fight if you are martial larns.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
They say get away.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Only only fight if it comes to you, come to me.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Yeah, shout out, damn.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Good game though, that was a good game. That was
fascinating stuff. All right, we're gonna take our final break.
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couple questions here before we get to our actual predictions.
Which running back do you think will have more rushing
guard this weekend? Javon Williams, I'm sorry, Javonte Williams or
Rico Daddle.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I will say Javonta because that's consistently what he's what
he's been. Rico had had a hot game. If we
can make an argument the Cowboys run defense, you know,
it hasn't been as great the last week as it
was the first few weeks, but maybe that's like a
play style that you know comes in to play there.
I will say that that the Cowboys run defense will
(40:19):
be better than the Panthers run defense. I'm gonna go
with Williams having a better day.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Same. I am pro Williams and what he's doing here
with the Cowboys, And I think also the fact that
you have a better passing game. I think that combination
there just allows your running back to even be better
and get more opportunities.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Differently, nobody fears Bryce Carolina's going to try to keep
back from whooping them all day for sure.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Great point, all.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Right, Ryan, Illinois over under one hundred yards receiving.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Illinois, Okay, over under how much hundred yards? I don't
think he's gonna get two hundred yard games back to back.
I mean, that's just like football.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Maun lostons Miles Austin. If he does, he's.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
He's gonna be Miles Austen and he's gonna be starting
for a while if he gets two back to back
hundred yard games. But just conventional wisdom, I just wouldn't
assume that he'll do that back to back like that,
you know. And honestly, you know, if GP has a
better day versus Horn than he did versus Guard and
some of those yards could possibly go to him, Ferg
is gonna be involved. So I mean, I could see
Flow having another good day, But if he has two
(41:26):
one hundred yard plus days back to back, then we
ain't gonna be talking abou mingo very you know very
much at all?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
Coming up.
Speaker 8 (41:33):
Yeah, I think he's gonna have a successful day as again,
but I don't see it getting to the hundred like
I I see him being involved in being positive but
not not to die. I hope he does. I hope
he does, but yeah, I don't. I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
But if he does, though, right like, if he goes
out there and has another hundred yard game, you know,
just another you know, ten or so targets, you know
that turns into eight catches and we give him some
more carries. He has another good day there, maybe getting
the end zone this week. What does that do in
the grand scheme of how we're looking at when Turpin
and Lamb comes back, what do we do with Mingoing
Tober at that point?
Speaker 6 (42:08):
For me, I've already I've already kind of in my mind.
I don't think anything changes with your top three guys.
I don't care what he does in this game relative
to the last game. I think for me this year, Ceedee, Lamb,
George Pickens and Turpin are my three top receivers.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Those are three guys that I'm going to ride. Now.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
What it does tell me is I got a little
more leeway in the event of injury. I got a
little more leeway if I need to spell those guys.
I got a little more leeway if I want to
figure out how I can run for wide receivers, like
I got something where I feel like I can make
some things happen, where I think this guy could be
a reliable part of my offense when I need.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
To use him.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
But I don't think anything I saw says that that
makes him a preferable person, a preferable receiver above my
top three guys.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm just gonna talk about Tober for a second, with
the most respect. What do you do with a player
that's kind of getting outplayed by some other guys on
the team, three or four guys on the team, and
he doesn't really have a trade value. You know what
I'm saying, You just can't hold on to everybody, because
if you hold on to everybody, you got six receivers now,
just holding on to those guys, right and you know
(43:16):
Mingo has been activated from his window. At some point
he's gonna have to get involved, assuming nothing happens with
you know, none of that kind of stuff, and Lamb
and Turban comes back. What do you do with a
guy that you can't trade.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
I don't assume I have to do anything with Mingo
right now, I'm talking about to Bert. I know I
can't go ahead but I'm saying I could run with
five and I'm good, like I don't have to do
anything with Mingo.
Speaker 8 (43:41):
I feel also that a lot of times when we're
in situations like this, you're like, Okay, well, what are
you gonna do when this guy comes back? More often
than not, things happen to worth the pieces just start
trying to aligning themselves like somebody else is gonna go out,
and then something so it happens, So it's never where
(44:01):
we're stuck in this little pickle, you know.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
So what I'm saying is, if that doesn't happen, right,
if none of that happens and Mingo's window is open,
don't you have to play him at some point?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
If all it.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Means is you got twenty one days to figure out
if you're gonna bring.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Him off of IR.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Next week gonna be fourteen, so there's a possibility they
can put him back on IR.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
No, the thing is, you don't have to put him
back on He's already on. He's still on IR, still on.
The twenty one day window just says you got twenty
one days to figure out if you're going to bring
him back.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Sure, and if they decided.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
They didn't want to bring him back, he would just
stay on IR for the rest of it.
Speaker 8 (44:32):
But at that point, does that is that for the
rest of the season.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Or do for the rest of No, you can't do
it twenty one day, then do another. I think you
open the twenty one day and I could be wrong.
I'll check on that. My understanding is you open the
twenty one day window. Within that twenty one days, you
have to decide whether you're going to bring him back
or not. And and then you make that decision and
either he stays on IR for the rest of the
season or you bring him off of IR after at some.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Point in that twenty one days.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
I'm My point is, I don't think they have to
do anything with Mingo if they don't choose to now. Again,
I think in today's NFL things just happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
But I'll also say, like, the problem.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
Is, you can't get any of these guys to your
practice squad and then be able to bring them back
up right, So so you're either gonna have to not
do anything with Mingo, or you're gonna have to ride
the whole season, or unless somebody else gets hurt, you're
gonna have to have six wide receivers on your active roster.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
I think that's heavy.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's heavy, And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
I think if it were me, if I were making
a decision, then if everything held true, all my receivers
were healthy, and I'm at a point where I got
to make a decision on whether to bring Mingo back
or not, I think at that point my preference is
probably just to say I'm gonna stick with you know,
I'm gonna stick with to go just where he is.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yeah, I would love to know what we have in
Mingo because I have a great feeling about what we
have in Tobert. That's a conversation that the Cowboys got
to have. I don't think you could just flat out
cut tober because he's He's valuable to you somehow in
the event that you know some space does have.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Big plays for you. I just don't think people.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
I think people are kind of because Ryan Floyd had
a great game, I think a lot of people are
just kind of minimizing what Tolberd brings to you as
a as a guy farther down your depth chart, but
as a guy that that's been making place for you.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
If flow goes out there. So to this point, if
he gets you another hundred yards next week, So now we're.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
Talking about wires ether five to six, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
So now it's like, all right, well, one dude, at
least we got two more years with one guy's on
his last on his last contract. We you know, we
know nothing about what mingl.
Speaker 8 (46:33):
You know, it's just over here are reminding us that
we that the Cowboys traded to get here. Again they're
trying to say, hey, are we gonna waste that trade?
Speaker 6 (46:43):
No, that's fair, but again, what else are you gonna do?
Are you gonna cut Tobart? Are you gonna carry six?
Speaker 16 (46:48):
Like?
Speaker 6 (46:49):
There are no good options here? You know there really aren't.
There are no good options. I just think you gotta
they're gonna have to make a really tough decision. If
everybody's still healthy and they gotta they're at the twenty
one days, they're gonna have to make.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
A tough decision.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
I think they're gonna end up keeping Tober because four
and Shoddy are very loyal to tober To It shows up,
he works hard, hasn't done the wrong thing in it's life.
I think they're gonna be low to him, and they're
just gonna keep MINGO down until something happens. I already
knew that. I just wanted to kill by seven minutes
for you on the back end of his.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Break, appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
Why don't y'all gohead and give me some your predictions
for this weekend? Who he thinks is gonna win Cowboys
versus Panthers.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I was about to beat the hell out of the
Pans because I'm a Homer. I got Cowboys like forty
five or something. Pants probably put some points up at
the end, like thirty two, So forty five thirty two,
we're a score.
Speaker 8 (47:33):
You gonna be a Homer, but a realist too.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I'm a realist Homer. Cowboys gonna put up a ton
of points on that defense, and they gonna find you're.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
A Homer, a dreamer, A dreamer Homer.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
I wish that I could save her, Homer. I wish
that I could save everyone, But I am a dreamer.
Speaker 8 (47:48):
Yes, I I'm picking the Cowboys too for this one.
I think it is thirty twenty four. I still think
the defense struggles a little bit, but we're gonna see
them go out there with a lot more confidence than before,
so hopefully they were able to make the right stops
for the offense. But Cowboys win thirty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I think I don't think people are giving enough attention
and credit to the fact of what we saw last
year last week from that Cowboys defense.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
In the first half, that defense.
Speaker 6 (48:19):
Was playing some really, really, really great football. They gave
up some yards on the ground, which I think in
some respects is okay with me, especially with this kind
of offense. But this kind of offense is always going
to put pressure on the opponent to keep up and
it's going to force them to get a little bit
desperate at times to get away from the run. So
that's going to help slow down the run, I think
a bit. But that being said, I think this defense
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is improving. I think it will continue to improve. I
think it's a big win for the Cowboys. I don't
really think it's a close game at the end. I
think Cowboys win thirty eight seventeen, and this defense continues
to show us a little bit more, getting a little
bit better, improving every week, and I think the defense
at the end of the game, and we will be
talking a little bit more about this defense for two
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weeks in a row, has now played some pretty good football.
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We have some stuff that we'll talk about from that game,
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So we're gonna do a little bit of that. Get
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You get to learn a lot about us and some
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that in the second segment, and we'll have some predictions
in the final segment before we end the show today.
Tell you what we think is going to happen on Sunday,
All right, Start first with some injury updates. Dante Fowler
did not practice due to an illness, Jonathan Mingo went
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from a full participant to did not participate with a knee,
Jack sanborn Uh still out with the concussion, Miles Sanders
went from limited to did not practice with knee and
an ankle, and Tyler Geiton, with a concussion, went from
limited to full participation. This morning, Jerry, are I guess
just a little while ago, Jerry said on the air
on one O five three of the Fan, that's looking
(02:18):
likely that that guiding maybe back this week from that
concussion and able to play.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What do we know?
Speaker 6 (02:24):
I guess at this point, I guess I'll start first
with Jonathan Mingo. That certainly feels to me like let's
just take our time. Sure, was there a setback or
do you just think it's just kind of they're taking
their time a little bit with bringing them back because
they found that they've got some depth at wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Good old lives man don't need to rush it, you know,
back in the day, allegedly just from a you know,
from a fans, I sometimes it looks like they'll put
people on ir just to hold them over to next year.
I don't know if that's true or not. That's just
what it looks like sometimes, you know. But Mingo, his
window was open. I don't know if floor noy wasnoy.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I don't know what flow.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Uh, you know, I don't know if the coaching staff
have that much confidence inflow when they open up Mingo's window.
But Mingo's window was open and he was working, he
was practicing. Maybe if I had to assume that they
let Mingo practice just to kind of see where he's at,
and once they saw that Mingo's good to go, all right, cool,
Now you don't need to practice because we have a
feeling that you're good, but we don't need you right now,
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just by the way of roster dynamics. So you know,
you know, Wide Receiver is probably something that the Cowboys
feel really good about death wise, so there's no need
to rush him back. And you know, you always tell
me that you know, week by week some might have
somebody never know AFL.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Plus, I mean you can't bring Mingo back next week
when Turpin and City Lamb comes back. So we'll see
what this what this weight around period feels like.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
I will say, when I opened this, uh this email
and I just kept scrolling down, I'm like, oh my god,
this is a long list of people listed on the
injury report or practice report. So yeah, well, we'll see.
We've talked about it throughout the show. After the kind
(04:04):
of performance that we saw last Sunday. It does allow
the Cowboys to feel a little bit less pressure and
having to rush some of these guys back. So we'll
see as we move along and what are some of
the progress on that. Another guy, I don't know if
you even mentioned him already already forgot all the guys
(04:25):
you mentioned.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I was actually I get the same one a
little bit more here, but go ahead.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
I was just gonna say that that's another one that Now,
obviously you don't want anyone to be hurt and you
want them to be available. He's currently dealing with the concussion.
He didn't practice on Wednesday or yesterday. But it's one
of those situations that I'm sure if fans are listening
to this, they're like, Okay, well, not that we want
him out, but hey, maybe it's okay. Maybe it's okay
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after some of the stuff that you were able to
see last weekend with Shamart James playing at the position
and the different that he brings. How many tackles did
he get fifteen fifteen total? So again, some of these guys,
you want them back healthy, but at the same time,
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it's allowing all of these other players to take advantage
of that opportunity and really show you a different look.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Now, see Sanborn got the you know, he's out, like
we already know, like he's in the protocols all that
he's gone. Now what was interesting is, just like with
the Mingo situation, Miles Sanders practice, he was available and
then he went to just not available anymore. So I
wonder does that have something to do with jaed on
Blue in particular, Like, Hey, maybe we want to see
what Blue does one more week and then maybe we'll
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bring miles miles back, you know, like not some emergency,
all right, we're rushing to have Sanders back, kind of
like they want Seed Lamb back as soon as he's available,
and Booker back. I think with some of these spots,
I think they can wait around and kind of feel
like there's no urgency at running back. You know, Wigs
being top dog and you know, you feel great about
him having you know, twenty twenty carries if if if needed,
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and if you got to give somebody else cares, give
five to Licky or something. But I think this coaching
staff just me allegedly nobody told me this. I think
they want to see Blue one more week, just see
if he can do a little something else, and if
he doesn't step all the way up or do something
that really catches our eye, Vin Sanders will probably be
right back in there.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Also, I was gonna say, real quick, that's also us
assuming that's kind of what's happening, could could It could
also be like, okay, you went out there limited and
now you're like, oh ah, all right, so now you
kind of went back a few steps. So it could
be either of us or that's fair.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, real quick, I want to go back to the
linebacker position because look, as I was watching that game back,
I noticed Sjamar James making a lot of tackles. And
this is a little weird. I'm trying to make see
the right way to say this. It wasn't like he
was making a lot of plays, even though he was
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making a lot of tackles. And the reason why I
say that is, for example, you get a tackle stat
if guy catches ten yard pass in front of you
and you tackle him, that's a tackle. It's not necessarily
a good play. It's just a tackle. And by the way,
it's better than the alternative of you not making the
tackle and the guy running for thirty yards for a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
But my question, you've.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Been complaining about tackles in general.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Now, yeah, this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
You know what I'm saying, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
My thought is, in a week where you're playing a
running game that last week put up two hundred yards.
Is there concern that even though Sanborne hasn't been great
all the time. I do think Sanborne diagnosis better than
some of these young guys, and I think oftentimes he
can put himself in position to be able to make
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some plays. I think there's been inconsistency throughout the linebacker groups.
I don't think anybody has played great, But that all
being said, I do wonder if Sanborne is a better fit. Obviously,
injury is injury, you won't have that option. I do
wonder if Sanborne is a better fit for this week
over Shamar James.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I learned this watching corners and draft season a long
time ago. When you see a corner with a whole
bunch of tackles, they was they was looking for him.
They was looking for him in the passing game, you know.
So there will be these games where Anthony Brown was
the leading tackler for the Cowboys because they were throwing
in that direction. So with James, he didn't miss many tackles.
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That was another thing that was going around. Oh, Shamar
James didn't miss any tackles. He probably didn't, but they
was all right in his vicinity and it was like
nine or so yards down the field. What you want
from James is to kind of see that quicker and
get there and maybe bat something down or maybe it's
a three yard game, or just lay it hit to
where they just miss. In general, like that's that's where
you want him to be. Samborne will definitely see that.
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He may not always get there, but it's not the
biggest games where the wide receiver or the tight end
whoever's catching it and then they get three more yards.
Samborne to be right there. Our gripe with Sanborn is
that if you was a little bit quicker, you may
have made a play on the ball.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
That's not where you're at right now.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
So I guess the conversation that we, as you know,
viewers have to ask is do you want the faster
guy that'll get there? But he's young, so maybe he
needs more time on task to you know, see things
better and learn and all this kind of stuff. Samborne,
who who his ceiling is, is right where he's at
right now, but maybe he gives you better opportunities right now.
(09:22):
To your point, you're playing against Rico and them, you
you would probably you would probably rather honestly, you would
rather probably like Leah Foul or like Clark or something
like that, to come in and be a bigger body
and be aggressive in the run game.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
But you know, we will see.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
And don't get me wrong, I'm excited for the future
of Samar James. And this is not a knock on
Schamar James as much as it is. I think right now,
when you're playing a team that seems like they're the
prettiest student running the ball, you kind of want that.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Experience to be able.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
You can't afford to have the mistakes of slow to read,
slow to react, and then you get there, you know,
you want to have somebody who really sees what's going on,
and that's where you know. I'm I just wonder if
this is a week where you're really gonna miss the
experience of Jack Sanborn if he is not able to
go because of the concussion.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
On the same token too with the Panthers, like you
probably don't need a whole bunch of diagnosing here, Like
Rico is probably just gonna run right at you, so
you may rather the guy that's not gonna miss tackles
and Sandborn he'll get there, but he will miss the tackle.
Last week he had like two or three. Shamar did
not miss any. So if Shamar is the better tackler,
and this is the week where he has to air
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quote think less than sure than playm and just roll
with what are you think I.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Was gonna say with uh? One thing, we don't have
to make the decision now because the concussion protocol is
the concusion concussion protocol. So there's that. But in regards
to the differences between the two, yes, you're always gonna
go for experience and whoever can make that read a
lot faster. But at the same time, with Shamar James,
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when we talk about his speed, maybe that does by
him the little time of like his so quick, even
though it takes him a little bit more to figure out, Okay,
where am I going? Where's that? It's still he's quick
and once he gets there, he's gonna make the tackle.
So what I'm trying to say is I feel like
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there's not a huge drop off. He can make up
with his speed what he doesn't have just yet with
the knowledge or the quickness and making those reads. And again,
it's one of those things that you're only going to
get that experience by being out there on a real
football game and being on the field and being in
real time game day type of plays and all that.
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So I'm okay with it right now. I'm excited for
the future that he brings in Sanborn. I don't hate
him or anything. I like him too. But again, he's
been highly criticized throughout the weeks because of those mistakes.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
There's no right answer with linebacker, you know, like there's
the right answer for running back, wire, receiver, all these
other spots offensive line, there's no right Like they're all
right in that middle that we want them to be better.
So just play him and figure it out.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
All right, Let's talk a little bit about the running
back position. Last week, Jayden Blue got his first opportunities
with the Cowboys. It's it's interesting because when you've got
a guy who's playing as well as Javonte Williams, it's
almost like you're only bringing him out to spell him.
You're not like giving, you're not trying to split carries.
And I think he has earned the right to be
(12:22):
the main, you know, main back and you can keep
him in for every down, So there really isn't a
need to necessarily bring Blue in. What were your thoughts
on what you did see from Blue and the few
opportunities that he got.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I think Blue's biggest play from what the coaches could
see and what they really care about. And you know,
I don't want to assume that fans missing because we
have some educated viewers. There was this pass to the
left side of the field to Flower.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
NOI flow to flow there and Flow didn't catch it
or whatever, but it was an attempt on that side
and the Cowboys slid three to the right.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
There was a blitz coming down and Jayda on Blue
perfectly stated Blue perfectly, Jaydon perfectly stepped up and uh,
it was probably like backside a or something like that.
Stone the linebacker at the line of scrimmage and gave
that time to make the play. It wasn't a completion
and if you won, if you weren't paying attention, if
you was drinking, texting your girlfriend, you might have missed it.
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But Jayda on Blue, like just going back watching the film,
the technique of it, the timing of it, you know,
him not just waiting around next to deck. They don't
want running back to do that because if you hit
the running back, you don't want the running back to
get knocked into deck, step all the way up into
it from depth and make the block and seal it.
And Dak had a pretty little pocket to make the throw.
It's just that the dbach just made a better play.
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I think that's what coaches are looking for.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
We know Jayda.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Jayden, Jayden Blue. We know Blue can run fast. We
know that he's probably one of the one of the
faster players on your offense there. So it's not the
running ability that the Cowboys are questioning. It's the technical
things as to where you're going to line up if
you're in motion, are you going to start in the
right place in motion to the next correct place? And
on third down you step up and block. And I
think that was the biggest play for him last week.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
You know when someone comes in the office and it's like, oh,
we got fresh cookies. Where up there?
Speaker 10 (14:13):
We got some fresh cookies and they're in the breakroom,
and then you and then you go and then you
see the box and you just see all the crumbs
left in there, and you're like, oh, so, probably not
a great analogy, but that's kind of how I fell
in the sense like, Okay, I'm getting so amped up
and excited about Okay, what I'm about to see that's crazy,
(14:42):
hold on, hold on, but but yes, in the sense
of I was expecting to.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
See a lot more and it didn't happen. However, that
doesn't mean I do want to keep giving the benefit
of the doubt and wait and see what he does
get a lot more chances. I will say in one
of those runs that he had when he first got
on the field, that he started kind of making those
breaks and you're like, oh, oh, oh, there he goes Okay,
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So that just it illustrates his ability. He does have
the ability to have that quickness and making those breaks
and avoiding some of those tackles that when you look
at it, you think he's about to get tackled, but
that he doesn't. So what do you call that elusiveness?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Elusiveness?
Speaker 8 (15:31):
I am curious. I'm not ready to give up on him.
I don't think anybody is. But I am curious to
see what else he can do once he gets more
play time and what.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
I would love to see from him.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
And I don't know, you know, a lot of it
may be just the function of he hasn't had opportunity
or the time to really understand the offense in that way.
But I'd love to see them move him around more.
I think right now with turping out, that's where the
real opportunity is and using him kind of as a
gadget play a little bit where you can maybe have
him and Gavonte Williams on the field the same time.
Maybe he lines up in the slot, maybe he lines
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up in the backfield.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You could do some different things with him.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
But that's also sometimes what you requires a little more
time on task for a player to be comfortable having
all those kinds of different roles, and he may just
not have had that much time to get comfortable with
that and for the coaches to feel comfortable with that.
But that's where I think the real opportunity exists right
now with Turpin being out. All right, we're gonna take
our first break and we come back. We'll have a
little yetty time with ag and then we'll get into
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Speaker 8 (19:24):
This segment is presented by YERI, officially licensed YERI Cowboy
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on Yedi dot com. So today we're gonna play a
little bit of to truth in a lie. So these
guys are gonna give us three statements and we're gonna
get to figure out which one is the lie. So
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once we go around the table, you guys give us
three things. Each person gets to ask one question. And
this is where I'm gonna involve you guys in the
chat as well on YouTube.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
By the way, if you're on YouTube watching live, that's
where you can join the chat.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Yeah, YouTube live on the chat. So you guys, please,
after you hear them give their three points sending some questions,
I'll pick the best one to ask them or not person,
and then I'll let you guys vote as well as
we try to figure out who or what is the lie.
I should say, all right, you want to get it started, Dirk.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Sure, you let me go first. I'll go. I'll go first.
All right, all right, all right, here we go first.
First point.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
I was once in a singing group called the Eb's
short for Eagleton.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Boys, Thank God, number number two.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
Prior to working for the Cowboys, I played drums professionally
for a local band, number three. My first job was
selling the Houston Post in front of Kroger's on weekends.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Okay, what was.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
The genre of the.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Eb's Go, Well, okay, you're a church man.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
But they also came up in a Nwjack Swing era.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
So if you're gonna be I did not come up
in Nwjack Swing. I was in college by the time
Nwjack eighty nine I was. I was heading to I
was like, I graduate high school ninety one.
Speaker 7 (21:16):
So that's right there, man, that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
Uh Eagleton's there has to be a bunch of people
in his family, right.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
A church group would be family members if it was
if it was just some boy you know, some boy band,
it might be your brother and some friends.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
But if you if you was in the church, they'll
make it more about the church and not like you.
They wouldn't let you be a narcissist in church. I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna say the egs don't.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Even I got to ask you questions that you can
he can go on this third point that you gave us,
it was you were selling what newspaper?
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yes, selling newspapers in front of Kroger's.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
Yeah, okay, what was the time? What was your schedule?
What time did you get It.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Would be on Saturdays and Sundays.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
I would get there usually around eight thirty in the morning,
and I would be there until about two or three
in the afternoon something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I changed my ass because if you sell a newspaper,
you selling them jowings from six in the morning.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Newspaper people going early yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Look at his faith, Look at you don't want getty
nothing away?
Speaker 8 (22:29):
All right, let me see what does the child.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
But the Black Church won't let you be a narciss
and make it about you. They won't.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
They won't let you do that. They'll be like, uh, oh,
Dane's boys about to come up here and sing a
song for us. Boy, Yeah, but not the egs Eb's.
Eb's not the eeds. The eagleson got eagant the boys. Yeah,
they wouldn't let you do that in church. Now I'm
standing on the eb's, I'm standing on business with the
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I'm standing on business.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, all right, where you going aver?
Speaker 8 (22:58):
All right, I'm gonna go with the newspaper, okay. And
then over here the saying, oh they ain't sold newspaper
in a long time, that touched yeah all right. So yeah,
some people are saying that the newspaper is a lie
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as well. They say candy bars, but not newspaper.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Because because I believe in the nineties that's when they
made the newspaper machine with the put the quarters in
and then you open and get the newspapers.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
How were you?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
He might be old enough twelve, He might be old
enough to where they actually had to sell newspaper. He
had to be a paper boy.
Speaker 8 (23:42):
And yeah, in ancient time. That's kind of.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
In front of Kroger, in front of.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
Kroger, a telve year old by himself.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I'm gonna go with the eg's because black Church, eb eb.
I'm going with the eb's.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
All right. Everyone in the chat is saying that the
newspaper is a lie, and I'm gonna roll with the
newspaper as well.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
All right? Is that final answer, sir? All y'all wrong?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I never played the drums professionally. I played the drums
playing playing all my life.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Okay, you're such a cheater.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
That's fair, that's fair. But that's fair.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
That is fair in a game like this, details small, small,
small details and manipulation.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
That's a good life.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
And I said professionally with a local band. I've never
played professionally or with a band like I've always played.
I played jazz band high school. I never played for
an actual band and dig gigs.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
I bet the told up and the eben, I bet
y'all cold.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, bruh, we could we could turn.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Churches did have like youth days where they had like
youth we.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Said, you were saying if we sang, and it didn't
have to just be you everybody, we were good enough
for adult days are coming up next.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, we killed it.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
We killed it. My cousin Corey, my cousin Damon, brother Kwame, and.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Me eb I just see how.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
No, but honestly on the newspaper, yeah I did. I saw.
That was my first job.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I would go out there every Saturday and Sunday morning
because I was just like, I want to work, and uh,
you know, I came from we didn't have a lot
of money, so I was.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Kids was working if I if I could make some money.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
I was like, I was looking, and I looked in
the newspaper to find the job. So I was looking online.
I mean looking, there was no online. I was looking
in the newspaper. I saw, hey, do you want to
you know, sell newspapers? And I was like, oh, sign
me up, and literally with my mom would drop me
off at the Kroger and I would just sit out
front and uh. They would deliver the papers to me
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and I sit out front and pay a dollar for
a newspaper, and I had my competition was sitting right
across the door from me, this guy named Nick that
was selling the Houston Chronicle. And we would duel back
and forth like seeing who's going to sell the most papers.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Okay, good for you. I'm still you're so sneaky. That's
not because you know what he did three years ago
or we played this game like three years ago, and
his life was I have like fifteen brand like the branding, yeah,
which he does. All he did was change the total
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of the numbers. I'm like, bro, like, who's gonna know
the total? Like all we know is that you do
have them. But it's okay, it's a game. Don't hate,
all right, all right, good for you, go ahead of watch.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I'm gonna put my glasses on. So y'all know what
I'm lying this This might be terrible. I just can't
be like, I have a hundred thousand strips on YouTube.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
I work for a dollar.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I can't say that, you know what I'm saying. I
gotta go way back, Okay, way back is way back,
as you just like two thousand and nine from a
glass on.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Y'all know what I'm lying yesterday.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
And I'm gonna look right at the camera too. Did
you know?
Speaker 4 (26:49):
In two thousand and nine, I played against Dak Prescott
in a high school football game. In that same game
where I played center, former Cowboys de tackled Justin Hamilton
was my left guard. After we were defeated, I graduated
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and I coached football for three years. That last year
I coached under Brett Farv. I coached offense under Brett Farv.
Two Truths, One life.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
So Brett Farv the playing against Dak and.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Former Cowboy defensive tackle Justin Hamilton was my left guard.
M okay, all this happened in Misssippi. By the way,
in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 8 (27:40):
How old are you?
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Thirty three?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
How far is Hattisburg from Natchez our thirty? Was that
where you were? You were? And you were in Hattisville.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Haddisburg, missips That's where I went to college sevens. I
didn't want to go to Alcorn because that was like
two minutes away. I wanted to get a way.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I wanted to get away.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
So how was this whole coaching experience?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
How was it. Yeah, I was a graduate assistant for Natchez.
That's where I played high school football. Sometimes when you
play football and you don't know what you want to do,
you say, damn, i's going to go into coaching. And
I went into coaching, and I was, I was. I
would travel back and forth. I was a GA and
coach was like, hey, man, you know that they got
football in Hattiesburg. He ain't got to come all the
way down here. And yeah, they got they got football
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teams in Hattiesburg. And Brettfall was coaching at Hattisburg oh
Grove High School to be exactly.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, m so was that was that a district game?
When you played against DK?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Playoffs? Playoffs? Okay, okay, I got my answer, go to
the check suit time.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Well, no one, no one's really sending a question. I guess.
The only questions that I see here is when did
you coach?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I graduated in twenty ten, so from twenty ten to
like twenty fifteen.
Speaker 7 (28:57):
I was coaching. Okay, bounced around three schools. That is
how Haddisburg Grove.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Call in Mississippi Hadburg mm hmmm. He just told him,
you know what you did right now? Though, you know
what you did right there?
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Right?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know you did right now?
Speaker 8 (29:18):
All right, the vast majority in the chat, they're all
saying that Dak is a lie. You're playing against Dak.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
What do y'all say?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I say, Dak.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
Same, I'm gonna go with Dak.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Dak played football in Louisiam.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
There you go. I was like, that's why you messed up.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Didn't playsp But some people be like, oh, he went
to Mississippi State, right, I did play against Tyler Russell
and Meridian, and he went to Mississippi State where he
played you know, played over that or whatever. But now
I did not physically play, uh verse in the same
age group the way.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
You screwed up that he said it was a playoff game, yeah,
because if it was like a regular season game, Louisiana
may play.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
You.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I mean, that was that was it.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
But look, but look, only y'all who like super football
people know hard in Louisiana. It's right down the street
for us. But only y'all know hard in Louisiana because
the day I.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Also figured at some point if you would have played
back in high school, you would have mentioned by the
way I played.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
And I've played, I played kJ Wright in high school,
I played what's my man played for the Patriots. He
was a linebacker. Uh damn. I always talk about him
because there's this this, this crazy, not veryable. He's a
he's a black guy. Uh can't even think of his name.
But he played at Franklin County and he went pro
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and it was a big deal for everybody. And the
newspaper got me looking funny, like I'm bracing myself. But
he's just fastening what he really was. And it's a
couple of the guys played played around there. I can't
even can't think of the name because we're on air
right now. If if we was off somewhere and I
ain't thinking about it, I'll come up with those names quickly.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
But you know, Stephen really played.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Play running back and play running back. All these guys,
there's some it's some pros.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
In the area, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
You know y'all had a few we.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Have, But justin Hamilton, he was he was my left guard.
He was right here and he was up there on me,
and we'll go out there and move everybody around, y'all
move bodies. It was a good time, good time. I
actually did did a video about it. It was cool, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You're not good at lying, but that's a good thing.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
I'm good. I don't lie. I don't tell you.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Did you want to do mine? Or do we just
want to do your?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Do yours?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
Because you just fast? You got to remove quick.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
All right? I dance salsa with a player.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Sorry, well that's true, because Derek laugh, that's true.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Go ahead one of these next to it, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Right outside meeting rooms. I had to stop a fan
from a fight. And the third one is I went
to a French school in the Caribbean.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
You ain't stopping nobody from beating up nobody a fan
from fighting. You ain't stopping nobody from beating them. Nobody,
ask your question. Jamie Collins was a player, Frank count
you you you ain't stopping nobody from from from fighting.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
What was the third one against?
Speaker 8 (32:25):
Aye went to a French school in the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, all right, a French school in the Caribbeans. Now,
I uh, I think I know which one it is?
Speaker 8 (32:42):
From me and from the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
What was you doing in the Caribbeans? What you're doing over?
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Someone? Get this man in the map place you do
realize Dominican in the Caribbean.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Oh yes, Oh shoot, get this guy who knows dr
is in the Caribbean. I never been nowhere from I'm
trying to travel. Now the cowboys pay me some moment.
The cowboys pay me some more. I traveling go places.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
All right, next time we go, next time we take,
we might give it in your whole life. Oh well,
fighting then that's my original. You ain't breaking, you ain't
breaking them.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
No fight.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Then I learned something new today, thank y'all for I
thought it was two different places.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
No, it's in the Caribbean. It's in the I thought
black peoples in the Caribbean. They are. But that doesn't
mean she couldn't be from the Caribbean too.
Speaker 7 (33:36):
That Dominican.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
Do you realize Spaniards the colonizers that just come to
a country and you gotta mix up both, you get
all colors.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I know all about colonization and uh taking people over
because I'm from Missis My ancestor was sold there. I
get it. I understand. I just thought geographically there was
just two different places.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
No, it's in the Caribbean. It's got a lot of islands.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
So it's one of state and like in like one
like a like a territory or something like.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
Why didn't I notice?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I'm not a shamed.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
The educational system in Mississippi is why you didn't notice.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
But I'm just actually I should have. I was.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Actually I graduated top five in my school.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
Sure did?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
I graduated six? Okay? Cool? Look it out.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Look at us.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's doing big thing.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
But they ain't teach us nothing about geography, nothing about
all that.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
All right?
Speaker 6 (34:25):
My answer is my answer is I don't think my
memory could be wrong. I don't think you dance with
that player outside of team medium. I thought it was
outside the locker room.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But I could be wrong on that, but that's gonna
be my answer.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Okay, I got a new question.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Since it's all the same damn place geographically, Then how
did you break up the.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Fight it was about to start?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, okay, what you breaking up a fight?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
You would more like to jump in the fight than
break up.
Speaker 8 (34:57):
Have you heard the word the escalation? Sure de escalated
the situation. So I'm not saying I got in there
throwing punches or anything, but I was like, okay, separated
the two. You know, this is not the place a fan,
they get rowdy.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
You don't care about no fan fighting nobody. I'm going
to towo's the lie breaking up the fight from the fan.
It's some it's some fans fight right now. You're gonna
run out there and bring it up and de escalated.
Speaker 8 (35:25):
No, but if you're standing nearby me, you gotta do something.
Speaker 7 (35:31):
I'm gonna just.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
You didn't break up that fight that night we were
at that cheese steak place in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Did you?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Okay, she didn't bring up a fight.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
No, let me run away the other place like I
really got here.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And bringing the line of me. Act like she's Batman
or something. She she she ain't breaking up no fights.
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Number two for.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Me, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with
number one. I could be wrong now now I'm thinking
about it. I could be wrong now, but I'm gonna
go at number one.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
Okay. See they're saying I'm a mom. I have the
strength that some people are saying I could break off
the five.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I got baby strength, not not grown people fighting strength.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Remember, looks like she got hands. I do actually, but yeah,
you're right, of course, even if.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
You got hands, right, Yeah, what do you train like
what you train something I.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Did? I did even even in that. They don't beat
a girl up. Yeah, and he got promotive with another belt.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
They wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
They wouldn't recommend you get into a middle of a
fight if you are martial larns.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
They say get away.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Only only fight if it comes to you, come to me.
Speaker 7 (36:41):
Yeah, shout out, damn.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Good game though, that was a good game. That was
fascinating stuff. All right, we're gonna take our final break.
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couple questions here before we get to our actual predictions.
Which running back do you think will have more rushing
guard this weekend? Javon Williams, I'm sorry, Javonte Williams or
Rico Daddle.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I will say Javonta because that's consistently what he's what
he's been. Rico had had a hot game. If we
can make an argument the Cowboys run defense, you know,
it hasn't been as great the last week as it
was the first few weeks, but maybe that's like a
play style that you know comes in to play there.
I will say that that the Cowboys run defense will
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be better than the Panthers run defense. I'm gonna go
with Williams having a better day.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Same. I am pro Williams and what he's doing here
with the Cowboys, And I think also the fact that
you have a better passing game. I think that combination
there just allows your running back to even be better
and get more opportunities.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Differently, nobody fears Bryce Carolina's going to try to keep
back from whooping them all day for sure.
Speaker 7 (40:46):
Great point, all.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Right, Ryan, Illinois over under one hundred yards receiving.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Illinois, Okay, over under how much hundred yards? I don't
think he's gonna get two hundred yard games back to back.
I mean, that's just like football.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Maun lostons Miles Austin. If he does, he's.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
He's gonna be Miles Austen and he's gonna be starting
for a while if he gets two back to back
hundred yard games. But just conventional wisdom, I just wouldn't
assume that he'll do that back to back like that,
you know. And honestly, you know, if GP has a
better day versus Horn than he did versus Guard and
some of those yards could possibly go to him, Ferg
is gonna be involved. So I mean, I could see
Flow having another good day, But if he has two
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one hundred yard plus days back to back, then we
ain't gonna be talking abou mingo very you know very
much at all?
Speaker 7 (41:31):
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Speaker 8 (41:33):
Yeah, I think he's gonna have a successful day as again,
but I don't see it getting to the hundred like
I I see him being involved in being positive but
not not to die. I hope he does. I hope
he does, but yeah, I don't. I don't see it.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
But if he does, though, right like, if he goes
out there and has another hundred yard game, you know,
just another you know, ten or so targets, you know
that turns into eight catches and we give him some
more carries. He has another good day there, maybe getting
the end zone this week. What does that do in
the grand scheme of how we're looking at when Turpin
and Lamb comes back, what do we do with Mingoing
Tober at that point?
Speaker 6 (42:08):
For me, I've already I've already kind of in my mind.
I don't think anything changes with your top three guys.
I don't care what he does in this game relative
to the last game. I think for me this year, Ceedee, Lamb,
George Pickens and Turpin are my three top receivers.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Those are three guys that I'm going to ride. Now.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
What it does tell me is I got a little
more leeway in the event of injury. I got a
little more leeway if I need to spell those guys.
I got a little more leeway if I want to
figure out how I can run for wide receivers, like
I got something where I feel like I can make
some things happen, where I think this guy could be
a reliable part of my offense when I need.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
To use him.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
But I don't think anything I saw says that that
makes him a preferable person, a preferable receiver above my
top three guys.
Speaker 7 (42:54):
What do you do?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I'm just gonna talk about Tober for a second, with
the most respect. What do you do with a player
that's kind of getting outplayed by some other guys on
the team, three or four guys on the team, and
he doesn't really have a trade value. You know what
I'm saying, You just can't hold on to everybody, because
if you hold on to everybody, you got six receivers now,
just holding on to those guys, right and you know
(43:16):
Mingo has been activated from his window. At some point
he's gonna have to get involved, assuming nothing happens with
you know, none of that kind of stuff, and Lamb
and Turban comes back. What do you do with a
guy that you can't trade.
Speaker 6 (43:28):
I don't assume I have to do anything with Mingo
right now, I'm talking about to Bert. I know I
can't go ahead but I'm saying I could run with
five and I'm good, like I don't have to do
anything with Mingo.
Speaker 8 (43:41):
I feel also that a lot of times when we're
in situations like this, you're like, Okay, well, what are
you gonna do when this guy comes back? More often
than not, things happen to worth the pieces just start
trying to aligning themselves like somebody else is gonna go out,
and then something so it happens, So it's never where
(44:01):
we're stuck in this little pickle, you know.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
So what I'm saying is, if that doesn't happen, right,
if none of that happens and Mingo's window is open,
don't you have to play him at some point?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
If all it.
Speaker 6 (44:12):
Means is you got twenty one days to figure out
if you're gonna bring.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Him off of IR.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Next week gonna be fourteen, so there's a possibility they
can put him back on IR.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
No, the thing is, you don't have to put him
back on He's already on. He's still on IR, still on.
The twenty one day window just says you got twenty
one days to figure out if you're going to bring
him back.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Sure, and if they decided.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
They didn't want to bring him back, he would just
stay on IR for the rest of it.
Speaker 8 (44:32):
But at that point, does that is that for the
rest of the season.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
Or do for the rest of No, you can't do
it twenty one day, then do another. I think you
open the twenty one day and I could be wrong.
I'll check on that. My understanding is you open the
twenty one day window. Within that twenty one days, you
have to decide whether you're going to bring him back
or not. And and then you make that decision and
either he stays on IR for the rest of the
season or you bring him off of IR after at some.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Point in that twenty one days.
Speaker 6 (44:59):
I'm My point is, I don't think they have to
do anything with Mingo if they don't choose to now. Again,
I think in today's NFL things just happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
But I'll also say, like, the problem.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
Is, you can't get any of these guys to your
practice squad and then be able to bring them back
up right, So so you're either gonna have to not
do anything with Mingo, or you're gonna have to ride
the whole season, or unless somebody else gets hurt, you're
gonna have to have six wide receivers on your active roster.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
I think that's heavy.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
That's heavy, And that's why I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
I think if it were me, if I were making
a decision, then if everything held true, all my receivers
were healthy, and I'm at a point where I got
to make a decision on whether to bring Mingo back
or not, I think at that point my preference is
probably just to say I'm gonna stick with you know,
I'm gonna stick with to go just where he is.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Yeah, I would love to know what we have in
Mingo because I have a great feeling about what we
have in Tobert. That's a conversation that the Cowboys got
to have. I don't think you could just flat out
cut tober because he's He's valuable to you somehow in
the event that you know some space does have.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Big plays for you. I just don't think people.
Speaker 6 (46:06):
I think people are kind of because Ryan Floyd had
a great game, I think a lot of people are
just kind of minimizing what Tolberd brings to you as
a as a guy farther down your depth chart, but
as a guy that that's been making place for you.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
If flow goes out there. So to this point, if
he gets you another hundred yards next week, So now we're.
Speaker 7 (46:24):
Talking about wires ether five to six, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
So now it's like, all right, well, one dude, at
least we got two more years with one guy's on
his last on his last contract. We you know, we
know nothing about what mingl.
Speaker 8 (46:33):
You know, it's just over here are reminding us that
we that the Cowboys traded to get here. Again they're
trying to say, hey, are we gonna waste that trade?
Speaker 6 (46:43):
No, that's fair, but again, what else are you gonna do?
Are you gonna cut Tobart? Are you gonna carry six?
Speaker 16 (46:48):
Like?
Speaker 6 (46:49):
There are no good options here? You know there really aren't.
There are no good options. I just think you gotta
they're gonna have to make a really tough decision. If
everybody's still healthy and they gotta they're at the twenty
one days, they're gonna have to make.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
A tough decision.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
I think they're gonna end up keeping Tober because four
and Shoddy are very loyal to tober To It shows up,
he works hard, hasn't done the wrong thing in it's life.
I think they're gonna be low to him, and they're
just gonna keep MINGO down until something happens. I already
knew that. I just wanted to kill by seven minutes
for you on the back end of his.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Break, appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (47:19):
Why don't y'all gohead and give me some your predictions
for this weekend? Who he thinks is gonna win Cowboys
versus Panthers.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I was about to beat the hell out of the
Pans because I'm a Homer. I got Cowboys like forty
five or something. Pants probably put some points up at
the end, like thirty two, So forty five thirty two,
we're a score.
Speaker 8 (47:33):
You gonna be a Homer, but a realist too.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I'm a realist Homer. Cowboys gonna put up a ton
of points on that defense, and they gonna find you're.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
A Homer, a dreamer, A dreamer Homer.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
I wish that I could save her, Homer. I wish
that I could save everyone, But I am a dreamer.
Speaker 8 (47:48):
Yes, I I'm picking the Cowboys too for this one.
I think it is thirty twenty four. I still think
the defense struggles a little bit, but we're gonna see
them go out there with a lot more confidence than before,
so hopefully they were able to make the right stops
for the offense. But Cowboys win thirty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I think I don't think people are giving enough attention
and credit to the fact of what we saw last
year last week from that Cowboys defense.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
In the first half, that defense.
Speaker 6 (48:19):
Was playing some really, really, really great football. They gave
up some yards on the ground, which I think in
some respects is okay with me, especially with this kind
of offense. But this kind of offense is always going
to put pressure on the opponent to keep up and
it's going to force them to get a little bit
desperate at times to get away from the run. So
that's going to help slow down the run, I think
a bit. But that being said, I think this defense
(48:42):
is improving. I think it will continue to improve. I
think it's a big win for the Cowboys. I don't
really think it's a close game at the end. I
think Cowboys win thirty eight seventeen, and this defense continues
to show us a little bit more, getting a little
bit better, improving every week, and I think the defense
at the end of the game, and we will be
talking a little bit more about this defense for two
(49:02):
weeks in a row, has now played some pretty good football.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
All right, appreciate you guys, join us well, be back
on Monday.
Speaker 6 (49:07):
Tell you what went right and wrong for the Cowboys
still then for Vach Lombardi and Ambergarcia.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
I'm Derek Elton.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
This has been the Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot
Com Radio.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
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