Cowboys Crosstalk: George Teague | 2025

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as always, we've got the three time Super Bowl champ
and six time Pro bowler. Nate Newton with us and
our special guest this evening, was a national champion and
an All American at the University of Alabama. A first
round pick of the Packers in nineteen ninety three, nine
year NFL veteran WOW five seasons with the Dallas Cowboys.
He is now the athletic director and head football coach

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at John Paul the Second High School. Please welcome George te.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
George, we got a chance to talk to you last year,
and there was a lot of great stuff that I
know went over. One of the things I don't think
we went over very much early on in kind of
your career path as a big time recruit and somebody
went on to play big time college football was the
fact that I didn't realize you were a military brat.
How much how much that I did not, I don't.
I don't think we even talked about that last year.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Research you know, I know here it is.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I know I missed the whole parks and now you
got to fill me in so that I can be educated. George,
talk to you just about the in general, the upbringing,
the athletics and how those all interplayed together on your
way to Alabama.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Well, first, I tell you it's so cool to be
a military brat, right, just to be able to live
in different places, see a lot of different cultures.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, we had to move every couple of years.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
But being born in Michigan, going to Japan, living in
Germany for four years, living in Kansas, living in Florida, Louisiana,
I mean it, it taught me so much more right
on how to deal with people. Actually, you know, but
the experiences that I had to be able to be
overseas and see a bunch of different cultures was insurmountable.

Speaker 7 (02:50):
On what that did for me and my life is
kind of cool. So it made it hard for the
athletic path, you know. Or fortunately I ended up in
Alabama on an Air Force base.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
They're in high school, and that's how.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
It started to trend to where I at least had
the opportunity but almost missed it, Bobby and you guys,
because my dad, as soon as we got there, he
ended up getting stationed over in Turkey.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
But he and my mom talked and decided to let
me graduate like all of my brothers. Some of my
brothers graduated overseas and I probably would have graduated over
in Turkey, but my mom decided to stay back and
they kind of you know, he went and served and
I stayed there so I could finish high school in
the state of Alabama.

Speaker 8 (03:32):
I think that's so crazy because I've been working with
George and I didn't even.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Know that we're not covered. We got to get our
bases covered here.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
Yeah, I mean you talked about you know, you learn
some different cultures. What was one of your favorite culture
that you learned.

Speaker 7 (03:45):
My my favorite spot by far was being in Germany.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Absolutely loved it.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
It was the longest time I was there, but folks marches,
seeing castles, actually watching them sweep their streets on Sundays.
You know, it was just different and plus. All right,
here's another fun fact for you. I wanted to be
Pelay because I lived over See, so soccer was my
first sport. I actually paid on a German team.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah. I was that good in soccer.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I couldnot really speak it the way they did, but
that I would. I had a love for soccer at
the time, and it didn't change until I went to
Alabama and I decided, you know, play football.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
We've talked about this with a couple different guests before.
It seems like a lot of the guys that we
have come through here, we find out that they were
multi sport athletes, and and you know, you find that
today there's some coaches and some individuals who encourage you
to just stay on the one path of football or
stay on the one path of the sport. And it
seems like universally the guys who make it to the
league say no, don't, don't do that. Play other sports,

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develop other skill sets, things like that. How much do
you think the the soccer. I know you did some track,
how much do you think those aspects of what you
did in high school helped to get you on the
path that you needed to go on for football?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (05:00):
I played a big part. I mean I was involved
in everything pretty much.

Speaker 6 (05:03):
I wanted to be a baseball player too, but I
found out I was afraid to stand around the plate
curveball started coming.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I couldn't handle it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
But being multi sport, and I say this as a
coach man, you gotta do it.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
I encourage it. You learned so much more. Your body
moves different. There's different types of conditioning there's all types
of things that happened with it. So playing soccer, playing basketball,
you know, up until ninth grade was.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Probably really good for me too.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Kind of see that I wasn't tall enough and I
couldn't jump high enough like some of those guys, But
I was very fortunate to be able to play multiple
sports growing up.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
You know, it's something where you talk about how you
were able to go ahead and graduate high school in
Alabama when your parents were making that decision and they
were coming to a difficult decision specifically for you to
let you finish out. How much of it for them
was just about well the academics and the ease of
getting out of school versus they recognized your potential athletic
lee and they were trying to fast struck that. Was

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it just about the school aspect and hey, let's let
him run this out or were they saying, no, he's
got something potentially special here, let's let him see this through.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Both, but probably more of the athletics side. So my
brother graduated from Germany. Like I said, you know, he
was a very good football player, but he might have
been better than me, honestly, but he didn't have the
opportunities for that, and so once it.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Came to that, and I think they saw some of
the athletic ability. No, I know they do. Another story
because I wanted to play soccer.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
My mom, actually my mom Nate said no, sir, you're
not gonna play soccer.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
You're gonna go play football. And she talked to me.

Speaker 7 (06:43):
About, hey, your size, your speed, what kind of position
do you need to be?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
And she said, forget the whole.

Speaker 7 (06:48):
Soccer thing, go out and try to find your spot
on the football team.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
So I went. She said, well, it sounds like you
need to be a defensive back.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
And so I'm at was a scout.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
So that's how that happened.

Speaker 7 (07:02):
But I don't know what it would been like to
try to graduate from Turkey, you know, a Donna Turkey.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
As a matter of fact, that might have been a
little that.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Might have been a little far stretched when it came
to my athletic and academic prowess.

Speaker 8 (07:15):
Before you went to go and have so much success
at Alabama, did you ever look back and say, dang, like,
I don't know if this is the right decision for me.
Did you ever have any moments like that?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Never?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Never, never, I didn't I loved being competitive.

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Look I had six older brothers and two older sisters.
There was always a competition, and I was the youngest,
so I was the one always getting hit in the
face with the ball.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's how I learned how to be a defensive back.

Speaker 7 (07:42):
I had to bat it down all the time because
they were just chunking at me, you know.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
So it was just ingrained.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
I mean everything we did was competitive, flipping coins, how
fast can we drive?

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Who who could do.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
The dumbest jump or whatever it was, or we were
like that. It was just once you got in the
competitive mode, I knew I needed to try to succeed.
So you was the baby, yesh youngest of nine?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yes? Why yes see.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
I'm second oldest of nine. This is two weeks in
a row because we had Darren McFadden. Last week he
had twelve, so we got nine. This has just been
a big family colection.

Speaker 7 (08:20):
I gotta have Pilo.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
What is it?

Speaker 8 (08:27):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
I don't know what this is?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
What?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
What is it about kids who come from big families
that when they see an only child or they hear
about an only child, they're like, oh, this this person.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Because you never had you never had to fight for
a room of food.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
You never got to fight for a room for the television,
the radio.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
What are we watching?

Speaker 7 (08:45):
You know, you don't have to deal with any of
the big brother or big sister stuff where they try
to put your thumb on you.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Then you get So this is I got a question
for both of you, guys, because I feel like every
every athlete I talked to has some sort of story
like this. You just made a reference to your brother.
He said, may have been a better football player than
even you.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yes, you two both.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Who is the best football player you ever either played
with or saw across the field that we wouldn't know
who they are? Who is the guy that you were?

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Like?

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Man, that guy was something different.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
He high school college, high school college where.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
It's just like that guy was special and just he
didn't have the opportunities or the breaks that needed to
go the way to get him to where he could
have been at that level. But that's somebody I was
certain was gonna make it to the next level.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Oh yeah, I would probably say, and I'm drawing a
blacko's name, But I played with him in high school
and I forgive me for it. But he was a
tailback at our school. This dude was unbelievable. He really
the reason why I decided not to play tailback outside
of my mom. You know, this kind of deal because
he was big, he was fast, and it just seemed
like something was always going on, you know, and he

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wasn't able to make it to get to the next
level where I.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Thought he would have been.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
We had a lot of guys on our team.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
George Thornton, these are old guys, you know, Orlando Parker,
Richard Montcreef, had a lot of guys that ended up
going to the league. But this one, gentleman man, I
wish he could have made it because he was so good.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So I know I didn't give you the name, but
that is immediately.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
I think of that there was a high school guy
that just didn't get the breaks that we needed.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
This That's the exact type of thing that I'm picking
up because I know Nate, you and I think it
was when we're talking to Kenny Gantt. You guys were
both talking about an HBC receiver that was just like
super well known at the time of just like that
guy was everybody was terrified of him. And then that
was the time player where It's like most people haven't
ever heard that guy. But who was it for you
that you've seen at any level where you're just like man.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
A Doe name Oscar Daniels, left handed guy basketball. The
reason I knew he was on the next level because
Darren Dawkins played for the Philadelphia seven Sixers come from
Orlando Evans.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
At my high school, Jones High.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
We our school was open for not only summer school,
but for recreational purpose.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Our school was the one that was open.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
Daryl Dawkins used to come back with Andrew Tony and
another guy every year and you know, just played basketball
with the guys and uh it was it was four guys.
And he would just tell everybody, y'all know, I got
O d Oscar Daniel, Oscar you with me and Daryl Dawkins.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Then wore dominating everything.

Speaker 7 (11:24):
But if the game got anywhere near close, which it
never really did, he was like, oh, d taking the
last shot.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
So this dude was everything.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
The only problem Od had he had a little learning disability,
but if he would have could have just overcame that
right there he was.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
He was.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
He could not miss.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
You know, Nate, I know we've talked to you before
about early on getting cut and then going to the
USFL you had the car accident and other things like
that that you've talked about in the past. George, you
talked about about the moving and different things that you did,
and then you get that window and out of them
in high school. Would you say for both of you
those were the pivot points for you guys in your
careers or was there another point, whether it be high school,

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college or pros where you're like, man, if this just
goes slightly different, I don't end up where I did.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
Yeah, And I think it's from a you just made
me take it something from a difference to it.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
So being on the base, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (12:22):
Really see I didn't have color barriers, right, We're just
always in a mix. When I went to Alabama, probably
the first time that I actually saw real racism and
we weren't living.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
It was it was bad, man.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
And I mean it's not that long ago, but it
was desegregation was happening. I was actually lived in an
all black neighborhood and we had to be bussed to
the pretty much all white school, you know, So it
was just different from that. So you all, Yeah, So
my growth was different from that stint of who I

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am today, and I think that helped me be a
more focused in the sports world because I did not
want to be caught up any other stuff that was
happening right in our earth town, you know.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
For you was it that all that we talked about
Ford in Washington coming out of it getting caught Let me.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Tell you something.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
I want to thank God because I was always my
biggest problem because I.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Wanted to do everything wrong.

Speaker 7 (13:32):
Besides football, Football was like a relaxing period for me
because I was couldn't wait till the game was over
so I could see what I could do next wrong.
So it was me always in the way, always in
the way.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
But you know, a lot of us when they think
of my career, they don't realize that I actually got
traded from Green Bay to the Land and then cut
three weeks later, and then signed with the Cowboys and
then gone.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Was living in four places in like six months.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It was. It was a lot, even for a millionhile
like it was hard and my attitude was so bad, probably.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Even when I first came or the second time that
I came to Dallas, because you know, I didn't get
along with Jimmy down in Miami. Just everything was bad, man.
So I had to make a choice of what am
I going to do with this sport him? Is it
over for me? Or am I going to try to
make this work? So I'm glad I had another opportunity

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to come back.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I think that's a good point to stop for our
first break and we can pick that up on the
other side. Just the thought of what changed, how you
you changed from that that attitude that you're talking about
to finding some sustainability here in Dallas and then ultimately becoming,
you know, setting up your retirement home here, becoming a
coach at the high school level. We're gonna talk about
it when we come back here with George tag on

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This evening is George T. George, thank you so much
for joining us.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Yes, sure, glad to be here.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
Yeah, I wanted to piggyback off our previous conversation. In
the first segment, George, you mentioned that you know how
your attitude was kind of in a bad place. Nate,
you talked about how you wanted to do everything you're wrong.
Who was that person to kind of flip the switch
for you guys or help you all flip the switch.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
In your in your opinion?

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Uh, for me, he was my brother I talked about before.
He actually so probably happened to me twice, once at
Alabama and then of the Pros, and both times you
had to come save me. Essentially that slept in the
basement of my brother's house for a while. And I
don't know what you're trying to do, but you you
want you try to kill yourself or or something. But

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very thankful for my brother Larry Larry T, who lives
in Once you talk Kansas now. So he He's definitely
was the rock for me to get me out of
that darkness. Even once I was here, he was close
enough to me that you know, he could get five
hours to get down here and be like, hey, man,

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you know your wife is calling me or you know
what what is going on? So yeah, for the wow,
good stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Man, what didn't.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
You but what you mentioned that you wanted to do
everything wrong?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
What kind of help?

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (19:41):
That that didn't stop until I got I was seven, eight, nine,
ten years out of the league before you know, I
changed my life around for Christ stopped, you know, walking
with Christ. So yeah, it was a while for me.
I mean I did that thing upout forty years old.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Man, all the fun the law allowed.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Well, I was trying to get with it, yes, I was,
but lost a beautiful wife and I almost alienated himself
from a kids bro. I was, you know what I
was living. I thought I was living the life. But
you know, I thought I was living the life. You know.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, I've always I tell this story still on one
of five through the fan the story you mentioned on
the year before though, when we're talking about how does
culture impact a team, really like how much does leadership
really impact the team because there will be a lot
of people. Just go give me the best football players.
I don't care how they get along, whatever else. And
the story I was reference with you is you talking

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about how you wouldn't have ever been a pro bowler
if not for watching Troy Aikman work. Where you saw
Troyman in the standard that he said and that you
were like, I can't let his work go to waste
because I'm not doing what I'm supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
When you have.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
Great players around you and then they care about winning
and you have a part like Charles Haley.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Charles Haley was my difference man. You know.

Speaker 7 (21:03):
He came in and he said, man, you know, your
first four or five games of the year, we watch
you in San Francisco, and boy, you knocking folks at you, balling,
you doing this.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Then I see you later on in the year.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
You're known game.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Wait, you you're okay, but you ain't the guy we
saw at the beginning of the year. And he and
we set up a regiment, started working out, and then
that's when it dawned on me. I'm looking at Troy,
I'm looking at him, and I'm looking at Mike and
these guys are working there behind off. They got a
purpose in life. They know where they want to be,

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barring injury. So you know, when you around good people,
solid people with a people with purpose.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
And then and you.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Get a young man like Charles Hayleen.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
I don't want to call him a bad name, but uh,
he was a good idiot, you know what I'm saying.
And he drove me, him and him and Tony Tober. So, uh,
when I started, when working became a habit, like you know,
I started working instead of drinking all the time and
partying all the time, I spended summer that time.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Working towards my craft, and it took me to a
new level. You know.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
It's We talked to Rocketedition in last year and Rocket
was talking about the very first game he played, the
ninety nine season opener against Washington. It was the twenty
one point comeback, and Rockett was talking about how he
dropped the pass in the first half and Eric Williams
just like walloped him on his side and He's like,
I'm not He's like, I'm not kidding. My whole half

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was numb for like the rest of the game. He's like,
when I caught that pass. I was numb still, but
he said that it struck, and he said he still
remembers standing in the huddle and just kind of looking
across and being like, the standard with these guys is different,
and then the accountability is different. Like there's a feeling
here and an expectation from other players that you don't

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normally feel around football team. And Rocket was almost ten
years into his career at that point. Rocket had played
big time college football and so it's not like Rocket
was just like walking into an NFL locker room the
first time, George, you were you got here a little
bitter than that. You were here in ninety six, and
then the second tour was started in ninety eight, and
so you were here a little bit earlier than Rocket
was on that first one. But was that something that

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stood out to you as well when when you kind
of finally settled into Dallas. Was just the camaraderie and
the accountability from other players.

Speaker 6 (23:26):
Because it was totally different as good as I thought
it was in Green Bay being baby, so it was
different when I got here and having the year in Miami,
so I had a couple different places to look at,
and they thought they all have good traditions and coaches.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
But coming here, man, it changed.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
I'll tell you who hit me the hardest, I guess
was Kevin Smith.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Those people don't talk about him enough. He actually helped
me change the way I do my footwork. Darren Woodson,
you know, just his ability, the way he worked out
and did those things. And then who I watched all
the time was Michael Irvin. I just couldn't believe the
way that he trained and work out, and it just
was something different.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Like, man, I'm not doing enough.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
You know, I.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Gotta do more, telling you out of the way these
these guys are working. And so I know that's how
I ended up staying in you know, a league another
four or five.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Years really from just coming here.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
You know, the sad thing about this, in this new
world of we have to like everybody. We have to
get along with everybody, even when they have major faults.
And what I mean by major faults is they're not
team players. It's alright to be an individual. It's all
right to do your thing while the rest of the

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team over here doing what is right.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
But you get to do whatever you want.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Yeah, that's sad, that's sad, and I'm serious that's sad.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And that's one thing I want.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
It's a lot of things I want to say about
these new guys.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
I don't begrudge your money.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
I don't begrudge the time that you have all or
the time that you don't, the times that you don't
hit like. I don't begrudge none of that. That is
what we work for them to have.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
All of that.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Well, what I do begrudge you is when you're not
a team player.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I have no love for a guy. I don't care
how great you are.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
Even Lawrence Taylor new Witness show up right now, no now,
and that was a different guy that Laurence Taylor was
a different guy.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
I'm sure. I'm guessing you do, Georgia.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
I know you do.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Nayton Nicole, we all know Brian brought us for a
former Cowboy scout, former Packers scout, and and somebody Brian
has being somebody who worked around the game of football.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I know.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
The nastiest thing Brian brought us can say about you
is he goes that person's a bad teammate. Yeah, and
he says that's a bad teammate, that that carries weight
to Brian of just like you are you have no character.
You have like that is like one of the lowest
things you can say when you talk about how both
of you are motivated by other people's work ethic or

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doing certain things, and how that elevates you. It is easy,
I think for a lot of fans to here's some
discussions about culture that Brian Schottenheimer's talking about here and
and wanting to establish that, and maybe some people are
just kind of like, Okay, that sounds like try hard stuff.
Why why does culture and and that work ethic and stuff,
Why is it so contagious and why does it make

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a difference at such a high level of athletics.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Bobby, I think when you say the word culture, people
don't even know what heck you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's a vague it's a big much.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah, culture, the cultures, the process, all these words. People
don't even know what you're talking about unless you're in
it and you try to see the changes that the
coaches are making. So you know, to watch Schottenheimer specifically
because that unfortunately, I was able to sit in some
meetings and watch what he's doing. Man, it's back kind
of more what you're saying, what Nate is alluding to
of trying to do things together. Simple little things are

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competing together, shooting basketball, doing all those stuff before.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
The meetings, those kind of things.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Those are difference makers because it pulls people to together.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
So the culture is super super important of what that
really looks like, you know, because there are a lot
of teams there talk about their culture.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
Maybe they have a lot of talent, but it's not
put together right because there's individuals, there's too many little pockets.
The success that I've always seen on every good team
that I've been around, the ones that.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
You study, whether they liked each other or not, man,
they found a way to get it done together. They're
hanging out together, they're eating together, they're listening to music together,
they're doing whatever, praying together, you know, all these kind
of things.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
A lot of teams missed that. You say, how can
they have so much talent and be so sorry?

Speaker 6 (27:38):
It's typically because of that, and that has to be
driven by the coach to say, no, we're going to
come together and the staff, because your staff can be
part of your culture problem too if they're not put
together right. And the head coach has to monitor all that,
and it's hard it's hard to do.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
So culture is just vague. I wish there was something
else we could say so people actually know what it is.

Speaker 8 (28:00):
Did you guys handle because I'm sure you guys played
under multiple coaches that have a different type of culture,
and luckily the front office hit with Shady in terms
of their culture. But how did y'all handle the transition
of maybe one culture wasn't as good as the other
or vice versa.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
It one thing about culture, and like you said, it's
so vague. But the culture that we thrived on, even
him at Alabama, because I knew that I watched y'all
at Alabama.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Was disciplined.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
And it's rules and discipline that gets you going in
the right direction.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
And Jimmy would tell you, yeah, he's a great player, I'm.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Gonna let him do this, but you know, this is
what you He treated everybody a little bit different depending
on who you were, what's your responsibilities to this team
and what do you mean? But he had a core
belief in certain things that he wasn't gonna let slide.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
You had to pay a price.

Speaker 5 (29:03):
And so.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
When I look at this, this type of you know
what just upset?

Speaker 5 (29:11):
He said, Well, it's there what he's talking about.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
We're coaching little things like right, whether you come to
the meeting or not all time.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Who lets you slide?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Do they just kind of you know, you're two minutes late.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
Or they're expecting you to be there five minutes early
and sitting down and ready.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
For when coach comes in, The team goes working out,
the team is stretching for a game. You come out
there fifteen to twenty minutes late, not a coach say anything.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
You're missing a bus, You're doing things.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
And you see it all around the league.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
And that's where you can see where coaches are super important.
And I give you example of a guy who did
this and we loved him to death.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I saw him get left by the plane, Mike Urvan.
I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
The plane, Yeah, we we just took off left me,
you know, because that was Mike mo. He was coming
not late to practice, but late to a game. Yeah,
I mean late to a you know, I mean so
he had this craziness aboudy but never never never to

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the field, never to a meeting, because he promoted Mike
promoted this before coach Johnson even got there. When coach
get here, won't be this it won't be this and won't.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
He promoted that he gave coach of this cut these guys.
You can cut these guys right now.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm being honest.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
No, he's I've heard Mike talking about He talked about
it in the Netflix Keeping track list form of like,
these guys are losers, these guys don't care. These are
the guys that gotta get.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Like Mike was on the list before I kept.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
I looked out for you.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Your name is a little faded, babe. All right, Let's
let's keep this conversation going a little bit as we
then also talk about what occurred last Sunday in a
big victory over the Jets, bron shot Harmer's return to
New York. A great a great opportunity, a good victory,
great victory for for guys who had to step in victory.
He's underlined it. We'll talk about it when we come

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We've got Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Nicole Hutchinson with US,
three time Superworld Champion, six times pro bowler Nate Newton
is here and our special Cowboys alumni guests this evening
is George T. Thanks for being here tonight, George, appreciate it.
And now we've been talking a lot about culture and
the effect of it and and how that impacts actually

(35:16):
wins and losses. Cowboys go into New York for a
good win. A good win, Nate, Yeah, and one that
I think for a lot of people. There was a
time a couple of years ago if one offensive lineman
was missing from this lineup. You were anticipating you were
gonna lose the game and it was going to be
hell protecting your Quarterbackue. This is four offensive lineman. It

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was a preseason game starting lineup on the offensive line essentially, right,
you're missing Cavante Turpin, You're missing Miles Sanders, who's one
of your blitz pick up guys. You're missing Ceedee Lamb
and they go out there and and have a really
strong day offensively. I guess just both of you will start,
George and we'll go to nate some of your your
takeaways from this game. And I guess my centralized question

(36:01):
for it is is the ability to weather things like
that next man up ideas and sort of those things.
Does that go from just a slogan to a practice
when the culture since we don't have a better report
when the culture is right?

Speaker 9 (36:15):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (36:16):
I think that does bode well for what you're talking
about culture and how you mean EDI five.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
I guess, can you actually do it and playing and
what kind of.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Coaching that you're actually receiving?

Speaker 6 (36:26):
You know, I am fortunate enough to be able to
do some work with Nicole and we're speaking of the
culture of her shows.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man, she's a griller.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Man, she's been getting on me.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I mess up.

Speaker 7 (36:36):
She'd be like, George, what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
But seriously, man, I didn't know what expects.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
I was worried going into the game because of what
you're saying, all the injuries, all the new players and
different things. And then when you see it actually start
to happen, it is definitely a great reflection of what
the guys are doing in the locker room, in my opinion,
or and from the coaching staff.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
You get these guys right to play against the you know, okay,
they were all for it, but they were a good
football team. When you're dealing with the offensive line that
they had, it was supposed to be intact.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Yeah, and we basically just destroyed.

Speaker 7 (37:11):
Them all up front with our past rush and things
of that nature. So and to be able to run
the ball that we did with our hurt guys, that's
that's culture.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
That's good atmosphere.

Speaker 7 (37:22):
You just hope that you can stack week after week
after week before we get too excited, can we do
it again?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You know this upcoming week?

Speaker 7 (37:31):
You know, I just believe you know, yeah, you know,
I'm wit shotting all the way, good batter and different
I want because you know, you know, I'll use Dan Campbell.
It was thirteen weeks he had a tie before he
had an actual win. And I feel bad for the
Jets coach because he's he's telling the fans they're getting better,

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but you can't see it, not right now. But it's
gonna take a win or two. And then, like Jorge says,
stack style stacking, we.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Were supposed to be the Jets.

Speaker 7 (38:07):
And I tell people, and I know this may not
resonate with a lot of people, but you see why
the tide didn't bother him because he was able to
say this is yes, we didn't win this game, but
this is how we can build. And now he's got
to win. So now let's see how does.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
He play Carolina. Carolina, they tough at home. They are
two different teams.

Speaker 7 (38:32):
At home, they're a lot better than what they are
on the road.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
The record indicates that. The way they play indicates that.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
So we'll just see how we handle back to back
road games.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
How they do it, you know, the process.

Speaker 8 (38:49):
One of my questions, I'm sorry talking about good things
that we saw last week, but honestly, one of the
most consistent pieces that we've seen all year is Javonte Williams.
Y'all have played with some talented running backs. How would
y'all compare Who would y'all compare him to in terms
of what y'all have seen so far?

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Man, Okay, So I can't. I don't want to get
to So this is the way I look at it.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
I don't want to say I actually compare it to him,
But it makes me think of someone that I played against, right,
and that was Terrell Davis right from the Broncos.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Because this guy is physical.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
Dravonte Williams, He's physical, and his yards after contact are impeccable.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
You know, you could hit TD.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
It hurt to hit him, and you know he was
gonna fall forward and you get two, three, four more
yards all the time. Now, I'm not saying you know
that Davante is a Hall of Fame running back, but
when you're.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Talking about the power of running backs when you.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Hit them and they continue to get the extra yards,
you know, his patience, his ability to be able to
see the whole are impeccable, you know. And everything I've
heard and I do the research on and talk to
about it.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
It is that.

Speaker 6 (40:00):
Experience with that when you have the way that we're
blocking up front, with the scheme that he's putting in,
that it makes him a better running back than he
maybe has been over the past couple of years. So
to me, I think it's the physical running style that
makes him look more.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Like someone like that for me.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Uh you know, he's to me is in he's in
the class of his own.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Uh he he uh.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Zeke had that that power like that, that punch like that.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
But the Zeke in his early days, Zeke can go
sixty easy. This kid here may not can go sixty.
But if he gets a chance to toe that ball
like twenty five or thirty times going, he I think.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
He can go sixty.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Because the defense ain't gonna want none of it.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
They don't want to keep hitting them.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, they ain't gonna want to keep hitting.

Speaker 7 (40:47):
So a lot of guys don't run as fast and
they say, Okay, he ain't nothing to touchdown.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
How much does it help for for somebody when they're blocking,
like you, Nate, when Javonte Williams had a really great
breakdown on Dallas Cowboys dot Com had the social team
did a really cool thing with him where the gave
him an iPad and they just had him break down
the sixty six yard run that he had. And he's
talking about the play and he's talking about, you know,
all right, I'm getting this block here, and he talks

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about like he sees the pulling guard. When he sees
the pulling guard, Mic ends up chasing that because he
thinks that's the gap, and he's like, I know instantly,
like this is gonna be a big run. I don't
know how far yet. But you see him on that
run and he maintains balance through the contact. There are
two or three different times he kind of pinballs off
before he kind of breaks free and runs it down.
How encouraging is it to an offensive lineman when you're thinking, man,

(41:32):
I gotta just if I just give him a little bit,
he'll he'll even fight through a little bit of contact.
I don't have to block this up. I don't have
to pancake every guy. I can just if I give
him some space, he'll take it.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
When we have a running back like that, we stay
on the block.

Speaker 7 (41:46):
We don't, you know, like the guy he spoke of
with Denver Ye, that is the guy if you just
got to live it on him. He can he going
this guy here. You stay on your block, You go
through your block through the whistle, because he is coming forward.
And if it's muddy, just stay on your block. You

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have to maintain it. Just maintain your block. You don't
have to knock the guy off the line. You just
stay and maintain your block. As long as you don't
get knocked back. This guy is going to make it
happen for you. That's the difference in him.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Would you rather hit somebody named Davant or Reggie? Reggie?

Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
We called him, you know, play for it. We called
him Juggernaut. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:39):
You ever seen the not Marvels but whatever, the adventures
And then they go on to this truck and get
this guy off when they were trying to get the
lady off and they just you know, and now I'm
talking about I'm and he got and they say who
is this guy? They say, he's the Juggernaut, And what
does that mean? It's like, once he gets going on forward,

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he can run through anything.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I'm gonna have to get I'm gonna get the name
of that movie. Juggernaut, Bro, he made that head on
you yeah, man, they had butcher Man run it back
something else.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Yeah, let's talk. Let's talk about a little bit of
the passing game. So Dak had another really strong performance
in this one, kind of the killer touchdown, the one
to Pickens when they got man coverage, uh with sauce Gardner,
and I went back and I was looking at that
play and they just they went straight max protect and
it was basically a two route concept. There's just two

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verticals and then you had Javante leaking out at the
end as as just kind of like the checkdown. But
when they've got the confidence to all right, we know
sauce Gardner's standing over there, but we're we're gonna put
confidence in George Pickens, and we're gonna put confidence of
Dak to deliver the ball on the money against a
ball hawking type of dB. What level of confidence does

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that speak to in terms of where the offenses head
is at right now, and and and the sore I
don't want to say arrogance. It's definitely confidence, but just
a really strong confidence that we can play at a
certain level and attack anybody.

Speaker 7 (44:08):
You know, what I've liked, what I like about this
situation is Dak's connected real well at this time early
in the season with his head coach and play caller.
They are connected. Dak has seen it all and all
Coach Schottenheimer asks him to do is get us in
and out of the plays. I do not let us
have bad plays, and so he's been able to keep

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them in the.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Correct play and his pocket presence.

Speaker 7 (44:37):
It's been a long time since I seen a quarterback
have this much pocket presence. Because Green Bay game I
saw five or six times, but it's like, whoa, he
barely got that ball off. Bro And I seen six
or seven times in this game, but it's like, oh,
he barely got this ball. He is understanding where the

(44:58):
ball needs to go. If you need to maneuvering a
little bit in the pocket to help that receiveral break open,
he's doing it, but he is getting rid of that ball.
My question is is this and what do you do
when you play teams that are equal or better than you?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
That is what I'm waiting on.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
That is what I'm waiting on because I'm hoping our
players are back.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I'm hoping I left guard is back. I'm hoping that
right guard is back and have played together because we're
gonna need that going down to stretch you. We're gonna
continue to grow.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Did you feel like Green Bay wasn't that a team
that was equal or better than you.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
I thought, at certain positions on their defense, we're better
than us. I didn't feel like their interior was better
than us. And I'm talking about their down interior lineman wasn't.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Better than us.

Speaker 7 (45:49):
Yeah, but their defensive ends were better than our guys,
much much much better than I at this point in time.
They got a linebacker he's nice. I can't think of
the kid's name, but uh, he's a nice guy. In
their corners. Their corners are playing to that coverage. They
would jump some things. I mean they'll sit back. I mean,

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you can speak more to that than I can.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
But the film that we.

Speaker 7 (46:14):
Saw before they played the Cowboys, you a lot of
the routes that the Cowboys were getting that and that
says about by Schottenheimer and and Dak because a lot
of teams wasn't getting that. They wasn't getting that, but
shot he found a way to get those get those plays.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Let's go, let's take our final break of the show.
When we come back, I just I got a question
for for both of you to think about as we're
getting ready to throw to break. I was talking to
a player coming out in the draft a couple of
years ago when Brian Schottenheimer is the offensive coordinator, and
he was saying that Brian Schottenheimer had told him as
the Offeniporinnador asked me. He said, what's it like to
play with Dak Prescott? And he said, if you want

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to make sure you are in the exact right position,
the exact right look, and the exact right play every
single time when you break the huddle, that you break
the huddle and your quarterback scans it, he's gonna put
you in the best position to succeed and it's just
up to you to execute. That's what it's like to
play with Dak Prescott. So what I want you guys
think about is Nate, the confidence that comes from having

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a quarterback who you know is gonna put you in
the best position. And George, the stress it puts on
the defense when you feel like we've got a guy
over here who has all the answers to the test.
And we'll talk about that when we come back here
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Speaker 5 (51:08):
So.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Right before we went to break here, I had asked
you both about the idea of Schottenheimer has said previously
that Dak will always get you into the right play.
When you break the huddle and he looks at everything,
he will get you into the right position. You just
need to execute because he'll put you in the most
advantageous matchup. Talk about the discouragement from the defensive side
when you feel like you got the guy who has

(51:29):
the answer to the test, and then the boost that
you have when you feel like all I got to
do is do my job and we'll be in the
right Look.

Speaker 7 (51:35):
Yeah, first of all, it even looks different than it
did in the past years.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
To me, with the way that.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
Dak gets controlling the offense, it just seems like there's
a whole other level and that's a shoddy effect. I
would say that you could just see the confidence in Dackett.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
He might have been doing it all the while, but
it just looks different.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Yeah, And from a defense perspective, that is, it is
deflating when it seems like you can't get anything right.
And it's something that you can see as a defensive
back because they always look at the safety and then
you could just see the quarterback's face kind of like, oh,
I got you.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
You know this kind of thing before like oh crap,
what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (52:11):
You know?

Speaker 6 (52:11):
And I saw that in like uh, Troy Aikman when
I was with the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
They were coming here. You can see and it's almost like.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
They got a little grin and then you start seeing
moving around and making the check.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
You're like, oh, well, you don't know what's real, and
it ain't. And then they complete the pass or they
checked to the run and you just kind of off guard.
And it's just it's deflating to have that happen to
you when you're on the other side of the ball,
because it seems.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Like you can't do anything right Nate for you to
is that just a big confidence boost for an offense
when you're like, I know, the field general back here
is gonna put us in positions, so we just got
to do our job.

Speaker 7 (52:45):
I remember when one year Philly got a lot of
sacks on us. Then the next year, uh, we played
Philadelphia and Troy just he wanted it and well he
he was jacking around and he wanted to score one
more touchdown and you can just see it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
In his eyes.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Man, when you got a confident quarterback, you would do
almost anything to make sure you get your block the
correct way, you know, And so when you got a
quarterback like that, I've seen Joe Montana, I've seen Steve Young,
I've seen Brett fav I've seen the best surgically just

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eat up my team and eat up other teams, and
I've seen it live.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Ain't nothing like that in the world, man, for sure. Yeah,
that ain't nothing like that in the world.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Bro.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
When you can just know that you got that guy,
when you know you got that guy.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
A couple of years ago, I feel like we were
talking about Dak and how he was seeing the field
so well. Obviously second MVP voting led the league in
touchdown passes, in passing yards, But do y'all feel like
he's playing at just a whole new level, like better
than that twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I have to wait another seven or eight games.

Speaker 7 (54:01):
Because I've seen guys catch fire in down the Jones
with the coats. His history says that he's not that good,
but his maturity says something different. When you see him
throw the ball now and how he handles the ball.
The first thing a confident quarterback does is he don't

(54:22):
turn the ball over. You don't, don't you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
He protects the ball.

Speaker 7 (54:27):
And so that is he's protecting the ball and he's
protecting his offensive line.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Trusts me when I'm telling you that, and.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
I don't know that. I have to wait to see
it believe it.

Speaker 6 (54:38):
I think it's and maybe it's that I'm looking at
body language.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
It just looks different.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
It feels different, Like I said, it just I don't
know if it's It just seemed like his confidence in
making them, he was already doing it. Okay, I'm not
saying that. It's just there's a different presence. You can
tell it. I'm a high school football coach, and.

Speaker 7 (54:56):
You can see when your quarterback is trying to take
over talking to the line of doing something. You just
know like, oh man, this is good without even you know,
knowing what's.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
About to happen.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
The reason I'm saying that, brother team, and I'm agreeing
with you. You know my heart won't say yeah, he's
on fire.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
But cautiously optimistic. No, no, no, it's.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
There's some games coming, brood, there's some games coming and
you're acting a guy. And we saw it with Cincinnati
quarterback last year. I'm not saying he can't keep this up,
but you're asking the guy to score on average thirty
five plus points a game unless your defense go from

(55:41):
a ranked thirty two team defense with at least to
seventeen Yeah, that is what I'm basing it on. Because
when you put that much pressure on a quarterback, which
he's willingly accepting, that's a great thing.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
What happens.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
And I'll say it.

Speaker 10 (55:58):
Again, when you play equal a greater talent, that'll be
a big question for them, and and they'll have an
opportunity to answer that question as the season kind of
wears on and this schedule gets a little bit tougher.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
We got just about forty seconds left. George, quickly give
us the recap real quick on your football team and
then what you guys are up to coming up this year.

Speaker 7 (56:20):
I am at the director head football coaching, John paul
Is second high school in playing though love it, we
gotta get a little bit better.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
We're five hundred right now right. I'm happy where we're at,
but we're building a program. Yeah, well so I love
just coaching kids and you know, talking football all the time.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Not just a building program, not a culture. Were culture
is just too vagaara history process for George steag Nate Newton,
Nicole Hutchinson. I'm Bobby belve This has been the SLWBC
Cowboys cross Talk. We will talk to you guys again
next week.

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