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As always, we have the three time Super Bowl champion,
six time Pro bowler, and Nate Newton, Yeah yeah, and
our Cowboys alumni this evening is an alum of Sam
Houston State and the Pride of Italy, Texas, former Cowboys
safety Keith Davis.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Keith, thank you for jording us tonight.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
I appreciate Appy, and I love the fact you got
it right.
Speaker 8 (01:28):
You say we were you practiced.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
That's a that's a legit thing.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
Italy.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
You gotta know.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know little south of Dallas. You gotta know some
of you gotta know Italy. You gotta know Lancaster. You
cannot say Lancaster. Yeah, they'll run you out of here.
Speaker 9 (01:49):
So yeah, I always got that right.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Yeah, there's there's some up and down there.
Speaker 10 (01:56):
I grew up in Waco, so like every time I
would drive to Dallas, I would stop.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
But the Italy stop, the rest stop on the side.
They got like a taco bell over there to stop
every single time.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, there you go, all right, like that everything we
just mentioned there, Former Dallas Cowboys, Sam Houston State, Italy Texas.
We're talking about somebody who born and bred Texan through
and through. I know you're still here in the Metroplex.
You're now you're now coaching high school football.
Speaker 8 (02:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You know, when you look at your trajectory and where
you got started. I know when you were in Italy,
you were a big time high school football player, but
you also contributed on the basketball team. You lettered in baseball.
You were a three sport athlete. There's a lot of
discussion these days about preparing guys for for the next
level and preparing guys to get ready for their careers
and different things like that, and there's a discussion of
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do you have guys in youth sports or high school
sports play multiple sports? Do you focus on one? Do
you feel like the multiple sports was a benefit for you?
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Oh, it was definitely a benefit.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
To let you know, we were the state champions and
my senior year at high school and I was the
MVP of the state tournament nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
And that was basketball.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
Basketball.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, basketball, What position you played?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I played two going Nate, that was averaging twenty seventh game.
I had Scott play. I had schottarships to play basketball
in huh North Texas, Uh Texas State, Southwest Texas, a
few other schools then go play basketball.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
But my heart was.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Always on the grid isne So I was like, nah,
football was was a physical sport, so I was like,
I can I could take out my aggression on the field.
So I figured out I forgured I fell well much
better on the on the football field, and it ended
up being the right decision at.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
The end of the day.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
So baseball position, I played second base, I played catcher,
and I pitched a little bit.
Speaker 10 (03:45):
Wow, those are three different, very different scenarios.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Baseball din I was probably catcher, I played a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I did.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I played a little bit. I was pitcher, first basement okay, okay,
corner endfield.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I didn't play Nate no, I quit.
Speaker 9 (04:00):
Yeah, baseball, I was played football, but oh lord jezus,
baseball is scary.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
I was at the Rangers game today.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Yeah, I'm all Texas, man, I'm all Dallas. I'm all Texas.
Everything about it. I mean, I don't care at the Stars,
I don't care the Rangers, I don't care. If the
FC Dallas, I don't care if the Wings, I don't care,
I don't care. I follow everything Dallas. Everything's Texas.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, that's one of the things that I was scared
about in terms of just you talk about your trajectory
and how you end up at Sam Houston State. You
have those different offers. So were your offers that you had.
You mentioned a bunch of schools there in state of Texas,
but were the offers that you had better for basketball?
And you just said, Hey, the opportunities may not be
there for me as much as football, but I want
to do this, so I'm completely committed to that.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
What was it? Was it the case of that?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
No?
Speaker 7 (04:47):
It was crazy how it happened, man, because like, I
was just playing the game because I loved the game
and I love to compete. Nobody in my family ever
went to college before me, so I didn't really know what.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Came with that. As I was going through my process.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
By my junior year, I was All State first team,
I'll stayed receiver, first team, I'll stay safety. I was
only player in the state of Texas to be first
team on both sides of the bar. All State my
junior and my senior year. I made that. But as
the office started to come out and getting these letters
from all these schools, and I'm really not like, all right, whatever,
I mean, I'm not paying attention to it, I'm not
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thinking much about it. I'm just like, I'm just going
with the flow. Nobody stressed to me then points about
the Act and the SAT and all this stuff and
all of this stuff. So I was just going along.
I didn't take the test to my senior year when
I and that Ohio State flew in to see me.
Nebraska was here, at of Texas, Texas, A, and M.
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All of these schools were really highly recruited me. So
we came to take the test and they the first time,
my mom threw away my mission slips, so I didn't
know I can still go and just show my idea
and show up. So when she threw it away, I
was just I was so hot. I was I told
my man, y'all go ahead, I can't go. I don't
even have their mission slip to go in. So that
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was in. That was in the fall. So I didn't
take the test until January of my senior year.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
I didn't even make the score the first time.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
I took it again in February, which I made a
twenty one the first the second time, and I made
you know, I qualified it.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
At that point, all.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Of the schools that I named before you they were like,
hey man, we can't wait.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
They had always passed on wow.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And so that's how that's how I ended up in saying,
and I'm grateful that I ended up in saying mission statement.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
I wouldn't change my story for nothing.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I mean, at the end of the day, I made
some of the best people in my life, some of
the best friends of my life that I still deal
with today by that happening.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Why did you end up You mentioned your first state
on both sides of the ball. Why did you end up
on the defensive side of the ball? Why was that
the focus when you got to college?
Speaker 7 (06:45):
It was simple for me. I wanted to hit. I
didn't want to get hit. All I wanted to do
was do it hitting, And throughout my career, man, that's
why most people was like how many intersept there? I
don't matter how many people that I knock at.
Speaker 10 (07:02):
Yes, I mean he was on the offensive side of
but it's a little bit different.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Yeah, but in high school and college I was defensive
then fishman of offense.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah. I was routing around it too.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
I believe it hitting bro And you could tell when
when Nathan when when they were winning the Super Bowl,
because I was there.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
I mean I saw all of it. I got it.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
I was in high school, I was senior, my fresh
I mean freshman sophomore, junior, senior year.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
We were winning.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
I mean to the Bowl, y'all, I'm talking about it.
I can remember being on top of the hood when
we went. I'm talking about watching him, and that's people
don't understand. We were so dominant offensive line and defensive line,
and that's why we were able to be so successful
at Nate's time when those guys were winning that man,
you had the great wall. I mean those guys, I
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mean from twing A to Stepanowski. I'm talking about Eric Williams.
I'm talking about the big homie l A. That's my guy.
I'm talking about from all those guys. Man, they dominated
in the trenches and that's why we were so successful.
And so that's the same recipe to be successful today.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
When you mentioned growing up a big Cowboys fan and
seeing you know, those Super Bowl runs and different.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
When you were watching those teams and then you played
the defensive side of the ball, played safety, was it
just a natural Darren Woodson draw for you watching them
come up? Or how would you really like zone in on? Like, Hey,
that's the guy that that I want to play like him.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
That was my favorite player. That was my favorite player.
I mean, without a doubt, I think Darren Woodson. It's
a travesty that is not in the Hall of Fame.
I'm so sick. I mean just I text him every year,
right when they getting ready to go through, and we
always talk, because we still talk today. Ai Cam, I
call him camp Ali Cam. Just the year. They gotta
get it right. They gotta get it right, and sure enough,
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when it comes back wrong, I text it back. I said, oh,
they're so full of yeah yeah, So I'll keep it
a PG. But I'm just telling you, man, like, it's
so disappointingt to not see him in the Hall of Fame.
I feel like he's a guy who really changed the game.
He plays special teams. He started He's one of the
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first safeties to start covering wide receivers in the slot. Yes, sir,
I'm talking about I'm watching him cover Jared Rice do
his best, and he did, and he did some very
good stuff right against that he played safety. I mean,
he did it all. And he's awesome leading tackling for
the Cowboys. I mean, for what four or five probos,
I think three Super Bowls. I mean, I mean his
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resume speaks for himself. So he's always been my favorite player.
I love the way he played the game.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
I love the way you outlined it there too, because
the biggest argument for Darren to get into the Hall
of Fame is the Hall of Fame's whole mantra is,
if you can't tell the story of football without this player.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
They should be in camp.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
You can't tell the story of how the modern day
safety position is played without Darren Woodson being at least
a part of the conversation because of what he did
throughout his career.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
You talk about the resume, you add that in there.
Speaker 10 (09:59):
You add the ability to change the game from a
coverage standpoint, from a special team standpoint, all of those eras.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
And I know I'm speaking to the.
Speaker 10 (10:06):
Choir with you, you three here, because all of us
here believed that he should be in the.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Hall of Fame. But it is it's a travesty that
he's not.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So far.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
There's a Nate had a great description of Darren Woodson
back in January when when we were talking about him,
and it was so good.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
I was.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was telling Sharen Williams about it, the long time
four Worth Star Telegram writer, and Sharen was like, all right,
next year when we're in there presenting Darren, She's like,
I'm gonna quote that, which is the idea of you
guys didn't have packages. You had Darren Woodson. Yeah, Like
Darren Woodson was your package. So that's how that's how
you changed the game. You would change the dynamics, but
you didn't have to swap guys out because Darren could
do whatever you needed to do. That was the kind
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of chess piece he was. Do you guys as two
guys who are big proponents of Darren Woodson and and
spend time with him and know the impact that he has,
do you ever let like get like a fear of
just like gosh, don't let history forget him. Don't get
so far away to where he's at that like people
start misunderstanding the impact that he had on the game
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of football.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
You know, we was with the Hall of Fame Charles
Hady does his thing to tackle tackle tomorrow. I think
I'm saying that right, And Darren Woodson walk up in
there and I'm looking at all these Hall of Fames
running lot guys of that ilk Man, Big Richard dent Man,
and I'm looking at all these guys Man, I'm saying
to myself, as great as these players was his greatest
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running lot. Well, man, nobody can come up man ed
his finger up this baby fang off.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
They play the game, big dent coming around that end.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Man just setting records for the bass as the sack leader.
And here we got Darren Woodson. Man change the game.
He says, two ways you can get in the Hall
of Fame. You cant have to be an instant success
like Gale Sales was school didn't play long all. You
can be a highly competitive, consistent guy over a lot
of years and have your print on the game. He
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left his print on the game. He played slot. Yeah, yes,
I'm serious, man, Yes, Well we didn't go dying, No,
I wan't no dying. Wilson go down here and getting
the spot, go cover you know Kenny Gattingham then like
that would come out, put with it down there on
the slot. Man, we taking away your second receiver with
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him whoever you Back in the day, the slop receiver
was the second best receiver in third and long a pass.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And we said, willd he go take away the best receiver?
Speaker 10 (12:31):
Well, and I think the way you put it there
are those two ways to make the Hall of Fame.
You could argue both of those were considered with Thearon.
I mean, he came in and played well right off
the jump. Now he got better as his career went along,
as anybody should, but he was a good player right
off the jump too, and was a part of those
teams early in his career as well. I think, like
I said, you guys are hitting the nail on the head.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
This is it's a travesty. He's not there.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I pray they get it right, man, I mean, I
mean sooner rather than later, because he deserves his flowers
right now. I mean, he deserves to be in the
Hall of Fame. And and hopefully the Hall of Fame
committee will get it right.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
Hopefully this something coming.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They let four or five guys in this year, right
they did.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
It was only maybe five. It was only like four
or five guys this year. Yeah, this year was the
first year that I've seen. Yeah, they've gone Yeah, they went.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Down last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
It was like eight or nine guys and then it
went back down.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
I mean, even if you do, ai, man, come home, man.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Even a I should tell you that what he deserves.
But why are we talking about Alan, I, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
All right, let's take our first break here on the
SWVC Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
When we come back.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
We've got Keith Davis, former Cowboys safety with us on
the show tonight. We've talked a little bit about his
upbringing in Italy and then on the same Housion State.
Now let's talk a little bit about his Cowboys career
and why Bill Parcells one said I know he's a
football player. Now I didn't know that before last year.
We'll talk about that next on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
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should be Hall of Famer. Nate Newton also with us here.
And then we've got, as we've mentioned, the Pride of Italy.
Get it right, it's not Italy, it's it's two syllables Italy, Texas.
It's Cowboys safety Keith Davis joined us. All right, So
we're talking about this a little bit. We're teasing ahead
a bit. And I gave the quote from Bill Parcells.
This is January two thousand and five, so you two
thousand and two is when you got to the Cowboys.
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So that was the Dave Campos last year here. Then
you were here for the the transition to Bill Parcels
and three, and then you were released at the end
of the three season, correct, and then you ended up
coming back for four, got sent off to NFL Europe.
And I was reading an old article from the Fort
Worth Star Telegram from years ago where they were they
were talking about that process, and that was Bill's quote
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where he said, like, you know, sent you off to Europe,
needed to see you prove some things. And he said,
I've got ideas for him, I've got plans for him
this year. And he said, I know he's a football player.
Now I didn't know that before last year. Talk about
the relationship that that you have with Bill Parcells in
some of the ways that that you had to show him, like, hey,
I can be one of your guys. Since we all
know the friends of Bill or Parcels guys, how you
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became one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Man, it's funny, you know you bring it up like
you said, when Bill first made it there he cut me.
I ended up getting in this situation. I got shot
at at a nightclub out here in Dallas, and as
when it happened, I'm sitting there and the first thing
I think about Nate. I said, yeah, I know this
is coming. So but it didn't happen immediately. So I'm like, okay,
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well wait, so I get out of the hospital. Now,
this happened like June twenty ninth of two thousand and three,
and so training camp started at July twenty third and
twenty four. So I'm like, Okay, he didn't come in immediately.
So I'm thinking to myself, I said, all right, I'll
be ready for camp. I say, he's just they're gonna
think that I'm not gonna be ready so they'll give
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him a reason to say, oh, he's not ready. They
So I was sneaking to the facility and work out
at midnight, two three, four times a week. I'd go
in key and I go in there and I work
out on my own. So I'm like, I'm gonna be ready.
So I'm doing the conditioning test. I'm doing everything. So
we report the camp. So when we get the camp,
he's looking at me. They're looking at my wound. When
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I passed my physical, they look at my home. They say, Okay,
he's good to go. I make my mandatory.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Wait.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
But when I come into two o five, it is
supposed to be two o seven, So I get it.
I said, all right, the last part is do the
conditioning test. So we get ready to do the conditioning test.
I said, all right, cool, let me kill the conditioning test.
Boom knocked the conditioning test down. Now I'm like, ah
me and the hard poor is over and now it's
about playing football. So I'm on the phone talking into
my high school coach right after the conditioning test, and
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we're sitting there, we're in the child line at dinner
down in San Antonio, and I'm telling coach and I'm like,
I said, yeah, coach, I did everything. Man, Boom, I
passed my physical boom made me mandatory. Wait, boom, I
just finished out the conditioning test. I said, yeah, everything else, man,
it's going down. Now it's time to play football. In
the middle of that conversation, I get a tap on
the shoulder and I turned around as Bruce the Turk.
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The turk got something and so I look at Bruce
and I tell her I hang the phone down and said, coach, man,
I gotta call you back. So I hang over with
my coach and I'm looking at Bruce and say, Katie,
come with me and bring your playboo. And so I'm like,
and what I said, You're gonna put me through all
of this and now you're gonna cut me. So I'm
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I'm hot now. So I got to go down and
sign up. And so I was like, is he cut me?
This is what this really crushed me because after he
cut me, I'm going back to clean out my room
and stuff. And the first person I run into is
Woody as I'm getting out the elevator and here's my
favorite player and I'm looking at him and he called
me Diesel He's like diesel. He said, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Where you going? He said, man, we got means? I said, man, Woody,
I said, they just released me.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He said what.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
He's like, no way, and I'm like, yeah, they just
released me.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
So I'm getting my stuff together and I get out
and I drive all the way back home, and I'm
thinking to myself, like what am I gonna do. I
ain't never not played football. So I'm sitting there and
I'm going through all these emotions. So I sit out
the whole year. Nobody signed me because Bill had already said, oh,
well he's this, he might be that.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Well.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Bill brought me back right at the end of the season.
He says, say something will send you in the NFL Europe.
He said, I don't know how this is gonna work.
He say, but I know you go over there. You
keep your nose clear. He said, don't you go over
there and f it up either. I said, all right, cool,
and I go over Boom. We win the championship with
my team in Berlin. I'm defensive Player of the Year
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in my team. I finished second in the overall defensive
Player the Year rating. I come back, man, and I'm
right back where I started, and I finished the season,
I come back and play. So I ended up playing
like thirty something games that year and one year.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I mean you thought.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
At all.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
And and when I come back to Bill, he say, Son,
he said you can play? He say, I was had.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I have reservations about you, you say, but watching what
you've did over in Europe, and to see you come
back and play here, he say, Son, I see right now,
you can play this game.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Do you think it was all that was? It was
the NFL Europe the part of it? Or do you
think all that conditioning test and all those markers he
had you hit and then he still cut you. Do
you think that was still like if you would not
have done the condition right, do you think he would
have even given you that NFL Europe shot.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
What I I think I honestly thought they were gonna
use the fact that, oh, well he got shot, he's
not ready to play. And I was determined to prove
them that I was ready to play, regardless of what
had happened. Now, because if you had cut me already,
you should have cut me, because you're gonna give me
a chance to show up. I'm gonna show up and
I'm gonna be ready, and that's what happened. And then
he cut me after it.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
Anyway, Wow, but like what he said, he said, you're
a football player, and that was what your whole mindset was,
even after having that adversity and having the injuries.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
That you had to come back from.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
I mean, the fact that you got back to it
was really that that showed him that you were indeed
of football players. Not only that you could play, but
you were built like it upstairs too. You have the
right mindset.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I agree. I agree one hundred percent, man, and I'm
grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Man.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Like at the end of the day, Bill had already
told us, don't be here, don't do this, don't be that.
I was picking up a friend something altercation broke out,
wrong place, wrong time, and it happened, and I'm like, well,
you you were somewhere where he told you you weren't
supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And so I can't tell you him in times that
happened to me, I was just driving.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
This is actually I'm curious for you guys on this.
You know, Nate, you spent time in USFL, you did
NFL Europe, the Cowboys the last few years have had
a lot of success getting people from USFL, XFL whatever
different term.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
It has been called the Summer League.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, Cavante Turpin and and you've got Brandon Aubrey and
some of these examples that they've gotten. Giving y'all's experience
in both leagues, do you think that, because it's been
kind of a slow embrace, that's starting to get there,
But do you think that the NFL needs to embrace
more of that? Hey, let's get some of these developmental
leagues together, because just come of some of the practice
restrictions that exist with the CBA.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And things like that. Guys need time to develop and
become the players that they're going to be.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
The problem is not the skill position players, even the
Kidner's opponents. The problem is you can't find enough quality
offensive defensive lineman, so that tears the game down. I mean,
you either got to open this thing like when I
played the USFL and make it all about the offense,
you know, a uh, And that's the only way it's
going to succeed unless you just start taking guys out
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of college and developing them. I'm talking about offensive defense line.
That's where the league is feeling at offensive defense line.
That's how you win on every level.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Even pop warning.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
If you can get a good defense and they get
from Disci one, they can beat up that little running quarterback.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And there's a shortage. Yes, those positions.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
Yea coach at Bishop Done High School, I'm sure you
guys see the same thing, even trickle down to the high.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
School with a disadvantage in right now, that's okay, we
got work.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
We got work. Yeah, work, You're going to send them
an NFL You're.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I'm glad that the Bishop Done thinking. I'm curious for you.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You know, you were you were obviously very talented, being
first state on both sides of the ball in high school,
the career that you had, and and and you were
also thought of it. I think it's kind of like
blue collar, hard nos tough, gritty football player. So when
was it in the point of your career or even
after your career? He said, you know what, like, I
want to get into the teaching side of the game, though,
Like I want to tell these guys about the game
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and then start bringing up some of the high school
plays because we see so many of these former players
who come and sit down with us that we find
out that's their big passion project. And I was like, hey,
I'm in the high school football and I absolutely love coaching.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
The biggest thing.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
I feel like I have a wealth of knowledge to
pass on, to pay to play it, pass it forward
from the standpoint that I love this game and this
game is given me everything that I have in my life.
But I gave this game everything that I had, so
and in return, I feel like I owe it to
these kids to give them the knowledge that was given
(26:48):
to me that I was blessed. Because everybody's not going
to make it. I understand that, but I'm not just
teaching football and I'm teaching life. So you know, for
me my son, I have my youngest he's a freshman,
so he's playing for Bishop Done and so I made
a promise to myself. I say, I'm gonna be there.
I'm gonna walk him through this thing. I want to
sit there. I want to give him everything that I
(27:11):
have because at the end of the day, once this
is done, I don't want him to look back and
have any excuses to say, hey man, well dad, you
didn't do this and this. Now I'm gonna do everything
I can possible to put you in a position to
be successful in life. It's not just football, basketball, or
whatever it is you're doing. I just understand just knowing
that football teaches you so much about life. Like Naked
(27:32):
attested this, he knows man responsibility and accountability, how to
work with people that you really don't like or get
along with. But we all working towards one come and go,
you know at the end of the day. So for me,
I just giving back to the game. That's always been
a passion of mind. And I enjoy doing what I do.
And the crazy thing, I'm the middle school head coach.
(27:53):
I'm secondary and wide receiver for the high school. I
enjoy the middle school process more than anything. Ain't because
those kids right there in middle school, sixth, seventh, and
eighth grade, they'll run through the wild for me.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
They run through the wild for me. That's the foundation
of it.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
You get those guys in high school, you know, you
have so many people in the ear where you should
be starting now, you should be there so that you know,
and so you try to tell them something, they feel
like they already knew it. So it's kind of a
little more difficult to get to those kids which I
enjoy the process of that also. But for me, man,
the foundation is right there, sixth, seventh, and eighth grade,
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and I enjoy that process of getting those guys.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
Because the phone dominates. Yes, ye, something about ninth grade. Yes,
in the phone switches a little girl and little girls.
That girl who you I don't like her all of
a sudden, Wow, she's pretty. Now I'm just starting running back.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
All right, let's take our second break here on the
SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk. We're joining tonight by former Cowboys safety
Keith Davis. When we come back, we got to talk
to not only former Cowboys safe to Keith Davis, but
Cowboys super fan Keith Davis about what we saw in
Philadelphia last Thursday. How competitive that game was. If you
can take moral victories out of lost.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
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Speaker 3 (29:19):
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Club for the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk. Got Kyle Yeomens
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three time Super Bowl champions, six time Pro Bowler, future
Hall of Famer, and then we also have former Cowboys
(33:00):
safety Keith Davis with us now. Uh and we're here
on one O five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys
dot Com. All right, we had the the opening game
in Week one against Philadelphia, a game that there were.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Some positives you could take out of it, but but
you guys just.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Said it going to break.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
There's no such thing as as moral victories.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
As as somebody told me one time. I was asking
somebody with the team a couple years back. I was like,
is this a moral victory? And they were like, you
know what's a moral victory?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
UH?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Victories when we win that that helps our morale too.
We don't need the loss to have the moral victory.
But when you look at that game and Keith, I
know you're you're your Cowboys super Fader. I want to
just kind of go down line Keith Nate and then Kyle,
your thoughts just in general on the game and some
of maybe the positive things you think they can build
on in some of the areas of concern.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
When I watched that game, we had every opportunity to
win that game. I think about the fumble that was major.
I'm talking about major. The drafts by CD, that was major.
I mean, n CD would be the first one to say,
you gotta make those plays. One thing that I do
like the defensive line. The defense we were able to
(34:07):
hold Saque like sixty yards rushing. That's major. You can
you can build on that. I thought the offensive line
played well. I thought we got some movement. I think
at the end of the day, we're we're headed in
the right direction. I like where we're going. But at
the end of the day, there's still no more victories.
(34:27):
You gotta win and you're gonna be judged by wins
and losses, and that's that's definitely areas we can improve on.
We can get more pressure. We need to get more pressure.
Keep contained. I mean the biggest thing we lost contained
on Jalen. I mean, there were a couple of times
that that fouler in forty one at the end, they
just crashed inside, and I'm like, why you cannot do that?
(34:50):
I mean, at least just keeping bottled up, you know,
and we'll have a chance to make the place. But overall, man,
I like what I saw for the most part, but
there's still a lot of room for prove.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Me And my biggest thing also, one big, one other thing.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
C D killed number eight, the guy in the first
So when when they moved him to Pickens, why didn't
we go to George and George.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Like, George answer that question, man, But hey, they'll get
to him when they do this, this office is gonna
gonna flourish, you know what. That played the hell of
the game he did to me, he did and it's
not talked about enough, you know, because I watched offense
Ryan play.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Our offensive line was just good. It was just good,
you know.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
And and and getting to that fourth quarter, his pocket
presence was was nice because it wasn't always nice up front,
and he made some things happen.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Now I'm the.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
CD drops, okay, but that fumble, yeah, right before the half. Uh,
Like I said, a lot of people can cry out
a lot of things. You know, we all got our
podcast making. You know, we gotta gotta feel content.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's crucial.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Bro.
Speaker 9 (36:10):
If that had been Bill and Jimmy, I told him,
I said, I asked Date his Miles still here?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (36:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:21):
With Bill?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, Bro, I watched You're a veteran. Yeah, Jimmy would
have been like he called him, you call him who
you call Bruce the Turk. We called him the crib keeper,
called the crib the crib tap on the shoulder. Yeah,
man in the world like that. But anyway, go ahead,
(36:48):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Yeah, I think you guys hit on a lot of
the great points. Leaving points off the board there in
the red zone was big. And to talk about, I
mean the last coaching staff Mike McCarthy went Hunter Lipkey
fumble that the goal line against Miami. Yeah, a couple
of years back, he didn't have another snap the rest
of the year, another carry.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
He had some snaps that didn't have another carry the
rest of the year.
Speaker 10 (37:09):
So it's still a modern day thought process, but it's
a little more relaxed in certain situations. With Miles Sanders,
I was a big proponent of keeping him on the roster,
so breaks free for forty nine yards on that drive.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Looked good the whole tubesman, and then he gets.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
Caught from behind by a linebacker and Zach Bond that
was the first thing, is like, oh, man, maybe he
just doesn't have that next level, that next gear. And
then to have the fumble. It was kind of a
double whammy there at the back end of it. It's
still forty nine yard game. I liked what we saw,
and then of course it falls to the ground.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
But you talked about Dak looking great.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
I thought his play was phenomenal, and then I know, Nate,
you go back and watch the film pretty quickly afterwards.
I usually try and do it the morning after. I
try and spend watching the game back on all twenty two.
I've never been so refreshed watching the interior defensive line
play that we saw on Sunday, maybe my entire time
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covering the team going back to twenty nineteen. I mean,
it's been rough in the middle all the way through
these years, whether it's guys like Mazi or Don Terry
Poe or struggling in the middle that on names outside
of that, because it's not just those two guys who
have had struggles in the run defense and on the interior.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
But Kenny Clark, my goodness, I mean, there are a
couple snaps.
Speaker 10 (38:21):
He has, absolutely and it's something that and we said
it when he got traded in the Mica trade. He
gets off the plane is your best defensive tackle. He
gets off the plane as your best nose tackle in
a one technique, and he's got some versatility on the
line too. Think we saw a sliver of why he
could make a really big impact here in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
And it's just week one.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
And even though it is just week one, and went
up against the team that led the NFL in rushing
last year and arguably has the best offensive line in
the NFL. So benchmark wise, you've already seen the best.
He should only continue to get better in his second, third, fourth, fifth,
and so on week as a part of this organization.
So it was a good start for me in the
run defense. And that was a big positive to build
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off of.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
This is you have enough new guys, veterans and young guys.
When and I'm going back to Jim and Parcels, when
we played a team that we felt that was physically better,
we found out what that true tempo is. I'm hoping
that our boys can feel that temple and start dishing
that temple, living up to that temple. The problem with
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practices is Jimmy Parcels. Parcels was his mentor. Jimmy used
to tell us I don't need for the game to start,
and you right here. I need for the game to
start and you right here. That means all we gotta
do is take two steps and we closing the door. Yea,
that that is what we missed.
Speaker 10 (39:46):
You felt like you had to take multiple steps to
get there, to get there, and they got close, but
just not enough.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
And that's where it from. That's fair.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
Yeah, that's what it because we you know, even though
Emmett told it in the one hand, the same hands,
and you know, you know him will we don't need,
we don't need a fumble. Yeah, that's the last thing
he will hear, you know. And then I jump off side.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Start sixty one offense. Yeah, five yard penalty.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's a that's a I really want to zero in
on that discussion you're having there about like the gap
on game day. Yeah, and then practically and because both
of you, I'm curious what this means you you might
be able to interpret this. There's a lot of discussions
were talking about the Miles Sanders thing. There's a lot
of discussion about why is Jayden Blue not out there
a fifth round pick, a guy that you wanted to
be involved these sort of things, and people talking about
man's he's got the speed he's breaking away. To be fair,
(40:31):
I will give Miles Sanders' credit, I don't know what
the Jayden Blues running with the same patience to even
get down because.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thats a lot of coggestion and he he bought.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So so but when you look at that, Brian Schottenheimer
got asked why was he inactive and and he made
a state and he said, look, he said, we we
need guys. He said, Tyler Booker is a good example
of a rookie who he's not been perfect, but he's
been consistent.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
We know what to expect from him. This is what
he did.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
He said, there's some guys they're doing what they need
to do on Wednesday, and then Thursday they're not, and
then Friday they're they're they're doing what they need to do.
But oh, this isn't great. He's like, I just need
to know the same guy every day. So when Brian
Schawtinheimer said something like that, cut through and he's not
generally coach speak guy, but cut through maybe some of
the coach speaking just say what what does that mean?
In practical terms? What is somebody like a Jaydon Blue
doing on a Thursday? That would be something that a
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coach would say, you're not ready to step out there
on game day.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You may miss a blitz that's Dak on his back.
Speaker 9 (41:19):
Yes, yeah, and see yeah, I don't care if you're
running right home, but I need from in that corner, uh,
that late safety blitz come off that end. I do
not need you looking over to your left because that's
Dak that that right there was scared of running back
and a head coach to death like where was she
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supposed to be? And see you don't get a second
chance from your quarterback and splatter. Yeah, I mean, mistakes happen,
but you don't want them mistakes. Now, that's why Sanders
is a little bit different. Ye, I mean I cracked
the joke about but that's where he would see that he.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Picked up.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
And picking up those I mean that is you have
so much investing in that you can't afford for dak
to be on his back because a running back went
the wrong way on the Blitz pick up man and
he's like, oh my bad, No, it's.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Not so bad.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Does that mean something to guys you think when they
see here's a guy Jing Blu who's expected, like people
talking about him being the starting running back potentially when
they hit camp, but he's not just being handed something
like does that does that mean something of the guys
who are fighting for active spots on game?
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Any things like that?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like, Okay, if I put in the work I'm seeing
as long as we're doing with Shotty says to do,
we will be given the opportunities and there's not gonna
be anything just politically given to anything.
Speaker 9 (42:35):
It's two or three times I can straight out tell
you when it's been open competition and it's showing up parcels.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
First got here, yep, he told everybody. I don't know
none of y'all. Oh you are to Jersey numbers.
Speaker 9 (42:46):
When Jimmy got here, and I'm thinking, now, it's the
first time in a long time. You know, you got
the core players, the four or five players that are
slided in, but everybody else got to pick up the game.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
I mean everybody else. I mean being ahead wooding them
with their name on the front of that.
Speaker 8 (43:05):
I'm looking. I'm thinking, it's not just rookies, this is everybody. Look.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
So he's and he always would say, he says, it's
going to come a time you're gonna have to show me. Yes, right,
he said, I don't care you. You guys have been here,
you veterans, Whatson, You're gonna have to show me. You're
gonna have to show me. And you not, did you
not by going on to the NFL you were coming?
Did you not have to sho show them.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
I've got a story that kind of plays along with that,
and it's with Coach Schottenheimer, one of the individuals within
the building that's a.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Part of practices, and we were just having a.
Speaker 10 (43:35):
Conversation about the culture and about the energy and all
the terms that now Cowboys fans are probably tired of
hearing of the there's a standard in practice where if
you make a mistake, you have a false start, you
have an off side, you miss an assignment, you're out
for the next rep. Right well, during the previous coaching staff,
and this is not a knock on Mike McCarthy, but
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they invest their times in their starters, and so if
you're CD Micah, whatever the big name starter was during
the Mike McCarthy era, if you messed up or you
missed a rep, not.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Traditionally, not every time, they would leave.
Speaker 10 (44:10):
During the first camp practice that there was a rep
where Dak had a miss cue, he missed time, the snap,
he missed time, the snap count.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
It popped up.
Speaker 10 (44:19):
Brian Schottenheimer was right behind him and said get out
of here, for you're out of here, and in comes
Joe Milton, and Joe Milton filled in for that rep,
and Dak looked like surprised for a moment that there
was that conversation. So I think there's a level of
accountability there. But it's still week one. There's a long
way to go in the season, and it's gonna take
time for that accountability to show up on a on
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a field and show up in a in a bigger sense.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
But at least it's heading in the right direction.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
No, I get that, man.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
You always want to hold every every player accountable for
their own actions. I mean, and when you see something
like that happens, then he lets those other guys know
that we're fighting for ROSSI spies night.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Yes he's not Okay, he's not getting I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I got a chance.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
And as far as and go back to the Philly game,
Joe Milton would have been playing anyway if I was that.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Hey, you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (45:11):
That is a That is a great little look at
Keith Davis could be a professional broadcaster too, because that
that is a great tease. When we come back, We're
gonna take a look at the New York Giants. But
I'm also gonna ask you, guys, have you ever been
so mad you could spit? We're talking about that with
Keith Davis, Nate Newton, Kylie Owens, I'm Bobby Belts. We'll
be back here on the sl BBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 11 (45:39):
Cowboys, No Cowballs, don't cowboys.
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Six time Pro bowler, three time Super Bowl champion, Nate
Newton is here, and our special guest this evening is
(49:05):
former Cowboys safety Keith Davis. So we we teased it
a little bit, going to break and and Nate had
just wide eyes and and and looked like he had
a lot that he wanted to get off of his chest.
So Dan, I'm gonna start with you, uh, the the
Jalen Carter spitting incident, your your just general thoughts on
how all that happened? And have you ever seen a
player get ejected before the first snap?
Speaker 11 (49:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (49:29):
No, no, no, I mean did anybody get ejected in
the ninety three tunnel the NFC Championship game?
Speaker 7 (49:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
But but but I'm with I'm with Keith Man. It
should have been two dudes ejected at least three, maybe
three or four, because brother, I'm looking brother.
Speaker 9 (49:45):
Brother, it's two Thames.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
You're not gonna do to me?
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Man?
Speaker 9 (49:52):
Now, you making do one on? When I got my
heim on, you making snap me with my heilmet on
and I won't be as irate, you know, but my
helmet off and you slap me.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
We're gonna take that.
Speaker 9 (50:02):
We're gonna walk it off the field, you know, you
know they can baby to do for Philadelpha his security.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I'm gonna bust him.
Speaker 9 (50:08):
Up to We're gonna walk this off the field, big dog.
I'm gonna follow him right onto the bus till I
get my hands on it. So so spitting man, I'm
past keep it ain't happening. I'm getting fine.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Whatever. The little two thousand just paying me for month
a week. I'm losing it. You can tell me.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Is there any chance you guys would know you you
know how loud it is on the field and everything
that is there any chance they wouldn't have seen Jalen
Carter do that?
Speaker 5 (50:34):
Like they didn't see it happen. They just knew something
had occurred.
Speaker 8 (50:37):
Not in today's game. I mean, it's too many.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
The guy's in the huddle actively in that moment. Is
it possible they didn't see it?
Speaker 7 (50:44):
It's crazy because when I look back, when I saw
it on the line of wind, the hood of getting ready,
they were getting ready to do that and him would
had on whatever the what happened, whatever they had going on.
And then you can see that he walked through that's
been at the ground, but he when he walked through
the linean and you can see all the linemen had
their backsterms just like this the whole time. So it
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was one of those things where it was like that
was just him and it seemed like it was something
deeper than me.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
But I'm gonna tell you something. See this is believe
it or not.
Speaker 9 (51:17):
I don't know if it's a bad thing, but how
do you follow at number ten? But that's one of
these he failed to tell spot in the Eagles guy question. Yeah,
that's what.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
This dude is. Man, He's a switch.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (51:28):
I mean one minute he rides Mitchell rolling it. Next minute, man,
he's trying to take you ride.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
Well, and the story we got postgame.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
The story we got postgame was the whole reason for
the initial Dak and Jalen Carter interaction was when they
walked on the field, Jalen Carter was instantly trying to
get in Tyler Booker's head, okay, and it was chirping
at Tyler Booker and Dak basically stepped in it was
like a deal with me and like started dealing so
on that kind of a front. Is that is that
(51:55):
similarly like a hey, I got a captain, I got
a quarterback who's gonna ride a different guy like Tyler
book or other guys on the offensive line when it's like, man,
this rookie's walking out here of the field, he's getting
trash talk by a super Bowl hero Jayalen Carter, and
it's your quarterback step and I'm going you can you
can lead this.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
You can talk to me if you need to talk
to somebody.
Speaker 8 (52:12):
You know.
Speaker 9 (52:12):
The thing about it, man, they do it how they
do it because we had no use talking stoop. But
nine times out of ten, regardless of who he is,
as much respect as I have with Jerome Brown, you
weren't just gonna, you know, you one would talk to
me any kind of way. And I'm gonna give you
my best that I can.
Speaker 8 (52:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (52:29):
Well, and wasn't it wasn't there a stat out there
too where the only sacks that Tyler Booker allowed was
to him in college was only to Jayalen Carter at Georgia.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
That was the only time only guy that had any
level of success. So Dak probably whether he do that
or not, he's gonna step up for his guy.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
He always has me and he always will.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
But to I think there was that the fact that
the cameras you talked about having too many cameras, the
cameras picked it up.
Speaker 10 (52:57):
Dak was spitting in the general direction, and then he
notices that conversation and decides to continue stepping in the
middle of it, and then it ends up escalating.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
It's just a while.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I saw the switch. Yeah, when they showed him. I
don't know if it's a good thing.
Speaker 9 (53:16):
I say, ten is a great place in the NFL
to be chosen tent flair pig, but he failed.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
He's a great place the top two pick yah.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
The top two talent for sure. That guy was supposed
to wreck sh up. Now when we just said, Nate said,
we had guys that we're talking to us and and
Keith Davis is our guest here tonight. Keep you put
your hand up.
Speaker 5 (53:35):
So that was so.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Can you remember a time of just a guy that
I know you said, pop Kevin Smith used to pull
on Jerry Rice's towel and get him on. Can you
remember one player in particular that used to just like
get under their skin and and get them out of
the game.
Speaker 7 (53:51):
Oh we got I remember we were playing Carolina and
the Panthers and we got Steve Smith kicked out.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
And that's a last night. Yeah, we got Steve Spick
kicked out of the game.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
We played.
Speaker 7 (54:05):
Uh we we go up to Carolina and uh we
doubled him the whole game. Like I was over the
top the whole game. And whether it was Newman or
Anthony Henry, whoever was the corner was I mean, he
was so frustrated the whole game. And I think Newman
that hit him out of bounds and and he was
he was talking smack and I started talking smack back
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to him, and he I think he either bumped into
the referee or he did something. And the next thing
you know, they're like eighty nine's out of there. And
that was the best thing that could have happened for us.
I'm like, so, Steve Smith, I remember that we was
up in Carolina. He only had like two catches at
the time when it had happened. Man, man, I mean
Steve Smith the utmost respect for that guy. I'm talking about.
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He's a great, great competitor. He'll let you know about
it anytime he's doing anything, and we would go back
and forth. Man, So I love competing against him. Man,
great player, But we got him out all right here.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Just about the last minute that we got really quickly.
Giants coming up this weekend Russell Wilson. Brian Dable confirmed
Russell Wilson will be back out there starting. A guy
that you know, Shot, he's very familiar with. He let
him cook in Seattle and he's talked to Joke before
that that might have gotten about in Seattle really quickly. Keith, Nate,
just your quick keys to the game.
Speaker 7 (55:19):
What you want to see this week, man, I want
to see is, first of all, continue to run the ball.
Speaker 8 (55:25):
Williams. Man. I thought he was.
Speaker 7 (55:27):
He was working, working really well for us, and I
didn't understand why he wasn't in the game when it happened.
But I understand. You got to give guys break. Continue
to let Dak do what he's doing. Jeans, spread the
bottle around in defensive wise we get a little more pressure.
Speaker 8 (55:41):
I think we can get a little more pressure. I
love the way we stopped to run.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
I love the way we competed, competed as a whole
and so if we can continue to do that, man,
it's something to build on.
Speaker 9 (55:51):
Don't think you gonna show up on the Giants. They
got a defense man that's waiting to crush folks. To
be competitive, no mistakes offensive lyne play your best.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Sexy deck is not joking.
Speaker 6 (56:04):
Yeah, win the turnover battle.
Speaker 10 (56:07):
No team in the NFL has had a worse turnover
to touchdown ratio in the NFL since it started twenty
twenty three. Giants are twenty seven touchdowns, twenty seven interceptions.
Speaker 6 (56:17):
Interceptions. That's not even counting fusboards.
Speaker 10 (56:19):
Keep that in mind going into this week, because if
you can turn them over a couple of times, then
all of a sudden, you're gonna win that football game.
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Speaker 6 (01:07):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
As always, we have the three time Super Bowl champion,
six time Pro bowler, and Nate Newton, Yeah yeah, and
our Cowboys alumni this evening is an alum of Sam
Houston State and the Pride of Italy, Texas, former Cowboys
safety Keith Davis.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Keith, thank you for jording us tonight.
Speaker 7 (01:24):
I appreciate Appy, and I love the fact you got
it right.
Speaker 8 (01:28):
You say we were you practiced.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
That's a that's a legit thing.
Speaker 8 (01:33):
Italy.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
You gotta know.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know little south of Dallas. You gotta know some
of you gotta know Italy. You gotta know Lancaster. You
cannot say Lancaster. Yeah, they'll run you out of here.
Speaker 9 (01:49):
So yeah, I always got that right.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Yeah, there's there's some up and down there.
Speaker 10 (01:56):
I grew up in Waco, so like every time I
would drive to Dallas, I would stop.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
But the Italy stop, the rest stop on the side.
They got like a taco bell over there to stop
every single time.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, there you go, all right, like that everything we
just mentioned there, Former Dallas Cowboys, Sam Houston State, Italy Texas.
We're talking about somebody who born and bred Texan through
and through. I know you're still here in the Metroplex.
You're now you're now coaching high school football.
Speaker 8 (02:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
You know, when you look at your trajectory and where
you got started. I know when you were in Italy,
you were a big time high school football player, but
you also contributed on the basketball team. You lettered in baseball.
You were a three sport athlete. There's a lot of
discussion these days about preparing guys for for the next
level and preparing guys to get ready for their careers
and different things like that, and there's a discussion of
(02:47):
do you have guys in youth sports or high school
sports play multiple sports? Do you focus on one? Do
you feel like the multiple sports was a benefit for you?
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Oh, it was definitely a benefit.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
To let you know, we were the state champions and
my senior year at high school and I was the
MVP of the state tournament nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
And that was basketball.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
Basketball.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, basketball, What position you played?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I played two going Nate, that was averaging twenty seventh game.
I had Scott play. I had schottarships to play basketball
in huh North Texas, Uh Texas State, Southwest Texas, a
few other schools then go play basketball.
Speaker 8 (03:24):
But my heart was.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Always on the grid isne So I was like, nah,
football was was a physical sport, so I was like,
I can I could take out my aggression on the field.
So I figured out I forgured I fell well much
better on the on the football field, and it ended
up being the right decision at.
Speaker 8 (03:40):
The end of the day.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
So baseball position, I played second base, I played catcher,
and I pitched a little bit.
Speaker 10 (03:45):
Wow, those are three different, very different scenarios.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Baseball din I was probably catcher, I played a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I did.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I played a little bit. I was pitcher, first basement okay, okay,
corner endfield.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
I didn't play Nate no, I quit.
Speaker 9 (04:00):
Yeah, baseball, I was played football, but oh lord jezus,
baseball is scary.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
I was at the Rangers game today.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Yeah, I'm all Texas, man, I'm all Dallas. I'm all Texas.
Everything about it. I mean, I don't care at the Stars,
I don't care the Rangers, I don't care. If the
FC Dallas, I don't care if the Wings, I don't care,
I don't care. I follow everything Dallas. Everything's Texas.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, that's one of the things that I was scared
about in terms of just you talk about your trajectory
and how you end up at Sam Houston State. You
have those different offers. So were your offers that you had.
You mentioned a bunch of schools there in state of Texas,
but were the offers that you had better for basketball?
And you just said, Hey, the opportunities may not be
there for me as much as football, but I want
to do this, so I'm completely committed to that.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
What was it? Was it the case of that?
Speaker 8 (04:47):
No?
Speaker 7 (04:47):
It was crazy how it happened, man, because like, I
was just playing the game because I loved the game
and I love to compete. Nobody in my family ever
went to college before me, so I didn't really know what.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
Came with that. As I was going through my process.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
By my junior year, I was All State first team,
I'll stayed receiver, first team, I'll stay safety. I was
only player in the state of Texas to be first
team on both sides of the bar. All State my
junior and my senior year. I made that. But as
the office started to come out and getting these letters
from all these schools, and I'm really not like, all right, whatever,
I mean, I'm not paying attention to it, I'm not
(05:23):
thinking much about it. I'm just like, I'm just going
with the flow. Nobody stressed to me then points about
the Act and the SAT and all this stuff and
all of this stuff. So I was just going along.
I didn't take the test to my senior year when
I and that Ohio State flew in to see me.
Nebraska was here, at of Texas, Texas, A, and M.
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All of these schools were really highly recruited me. So
we came to take the test and they the first time,
my mom threw away my mission slips, so I didn't
know I can still go and just show my idea
and show up. So when she threw it away, I
was just I was so hot. I was I told
my man, y'all go ahead, I can't go. I don't
even have their mission slip to go in. So that
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was in. That was in the fall. So I didn't
take the test until January of my senior year.
Speaker 8 (06:11):
I didn't even make the score the first time.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
I took it again in February, which I made a
twenty one the first the second time, and I made
you know, I qualified it.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
At that point, all.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Of the schools that I named before you they were like,
hey man, we can't wait.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
They had always passed on wow.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
And so that's how that's how I ended up in saying,
and I'm grateful that I ended up in saying mission statement.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
I wouldn't change my story for nothing.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I mean, at the end of the day, I made
some of the best people in my life, some of
the best friends of my life that I still deal
with today by that happening.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Why did you end up You mentioned your first state
on both sides of the ball. Why did you end up
on the defensive side of the ball? Why was that
the focus when you got to college?
Speaker 7 (06:45):
It was simple for me. I wanted to hit. I
didn't want to get hit. All I wanted to do
was do it hitting, And throughout my career, man, that's
why most people was like how many intersept there? I
don't matter how many people that I knock at.
Speaker 10 (07:02):
Yes, I mean he was on the offensive side of
but it's a little bit different.
Speaker 9 (07:08):
Yeah, but in high school and college I was defensive
then fishman of offense.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah. I was routing around it too.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
I believe it hitting bro And you could tell when
when Nathan when when they were winning the Super Bowl,
because I was there.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
I mean I saw all of it. I got it.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
I was in high school, I was senior, my fresh
I mean freshman sophomore, junior, senior year.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
We were winning.
Speaker 7 (07:27):
I mean to the Bowl, y'all, I'm talking about it.
I can remember being on top of the hood when
we went. I'm talking about watching him, and that's people
don't understand. We were so dominant offensive line and defensive line,
and that's why we were able to be so successful
at Nate's time when those guys were winning that man,
you had the great wall. I mean those guys, I
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mean from twing A to Stepanowski. I'm talking about Eric Williams.
I'm talking about the big homie l A. That's my guy.
I'm talking about from all those guys. Man, they dominated
in the trenches and that's why we were so successful.
And so that's the same recipe to be successful today.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
When you mentioned growing up a big Cowboys fan and
seeing you know, those Super Bowl runs and different.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
When you were watching those teams and then you played
the defensive side of the ball, played safety, was it
just a natural Darren Woodson draw for you watching them
come up? Or how would you really like zone in on? Like, Hey,
that's the guy that that I want to play like him.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
That was my favorite player. That was my favorite player.
I mean, without a doubt, I think Darren Woodson. It's
a travesty that is not in the Hall of Fame.
I'm so sick. I mean just I text him every year,
right when they getting ready to go through, and we
always talk, because we still talk today. Ai Cam, I
call him camp Ali Cam. Just the year. They gotta
get it right. They gotta get it right, and sure enough,
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when it comes back wrong, I text it back. I said, oh,
they're so full of yeah yeah, So I'll keep it
a PG. But I'm just telling you, man, like, it's
so disappointingt to not see him in the Hall of Fame.
I feel like he's a guy who really changed the game.
He plays special teams. He started He's one of the
(09:07):
first safeties to start covering wide receivers in the slot. Yes, sir,
I'm talking about I'm watching him cover Jared Rice do
his best, and he did, and he did some very
good stuff right against that he played safety. I mean,
he did it all. And he's awesome leading tackling for
the Cowboys. I mean, for what four or five probos,
I think three Super Bowls. I mean, I mean his
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resume speaks for himself. So he's always been my favorite player.
I love the way he played the game.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
I love the way you outlined it there too, because
the biggest argument for Darren to get into the Hall
of Fame is the Hall of Fame's whole mantra is,
if you can't tell the story of football without this player.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
They should be in camp.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
You can't tell the story of how the modern day
safety position is played without Darren Woodson being at least
a part of the conversation because of what he did
throughout his career.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
You talk about the resume, you add that in there.
Speaker 10 (09:59):
You add the ability to change the game from a
coverage standpoint, from a special team standpoint, all of those eras.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
And I know I'm speaking to the.
Speaker 10 (10:06):
Choir with you, you three here, because all of us
here believed that he should be in the.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Hall of Fame. But it is it's a travesty that
he's not.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
So far.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
There's a Nate had a great description of Darren Woodson
back in January when when we were talking about him,
and it was so good.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
I was.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was telling Sharen Williams about it, the long time
four Worth Star Telegram writer, and Sharen was like, all right,
next year when we're in there presenting Darren, She's like,
I'm gonna quote that, which is the idea of you
guys didn't have packages. You had Darren Woodson. Yeah, Like
Darren Woodson was your package. So that's how that's how
you changed the game. You would change the dynamics, but
you didn't have to swap guys out because Darren could
do whatever you needed to do. That was the kind
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of chess piece he was. Do you guys as two
guys who are big proponents of Darren Woodson and and
spend time with him and know the impact that he has,
do you ever let like get like a fear of
just like gosh, don't let history forget him. Don't get
so far away to where he's at that like people
start misunderstanding the impact that he had on the game
(11:05):
of football.
Speaker 9 (11:05):
You know, we was with the Hall of Fame Charles
Hady does his thing to tackle tackle tomorrow. I think
I'm saying that right, And Darren Woodson walk up in
there and I'm looking at all these Hall of Fames
running lot guys of that ilk Man, Big Richard dent Man,
and I'm looking at all these guys Man, I'm saying
to myself, as great as these players was his greatest
(11:30):
running lot. Well, man, nobody can come up man ed
his finger up this baby fang off.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
They play the game, big dent coming around that end.
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Man just setting records for the bass as the sack leader.
And here we got Darren Woodson. Man change the game.
He says, two ways you can get in the Hall
of Fame. You cant have to be an instant success
like Gale Sales was school didn't play long all. You
can be a highly competitive, consistent guy over a lot
of years and have your print on the game. He
(11:59):
left his print on the game. He played slot. Yeah, yes,
I'm serious, man, Yes, Well we didn't go dying, No,
I wan't no dying. Wilson go down here and getting
the spot, go cover you know Kenny Gattingham then like
that would come out, put with it down there on
the slot. Man, we taking away your second receiver with
(12:22):
him whoever you Back in the day, the slop receiver
was the second best receiver in third and long a pass.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And we said, willd he go take away the best receiver?
Speaker 10 (12:31):
Well, and I think the way you put it there
are those two ways to make the Hall of Fame.
You could argue both of those were considered with Thearon.
I mean, he came in and played well right off
the jump. Now he got better as his career went along,
as anybody should, but he was a good player right
off the jump too, and was a part of those
teams early in his career as well. I think, like
I said, you guys are hitting the nail on the head.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
This is it's a travesty. He's not there.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I pray they get it right, man, I mean, I
mean sooner rather than later, because he deserves his flowers
right now. I mean, he deserves to be in the
Hall of Fame. And and hopefully the Hall of Fame
committee will get it right.
Speaker 8 (13:05):
Hopefully this something coming.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
They let four or five guys in this year, right
they did.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
It was only maybe five. It was only like four
or five guys this year. Yeah, this year was the
first year that I've seen. Yeah, they've gone Yeah, they went.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Down last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
It was like eight or nine guys and then it
went back down.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
I mean, even if you do, ai, man, come home, man.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Even a I should tell you that what he deserves.
But why are we talking about Alan, I, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
All right, let's take our first break here on the
SWVC Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
When we come back.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
We've got Keith Davis, former Cowboys safety with us on
the show tonight. We've talked a little bit about his
upbringing in Italy and then on the same Housion State.
Now let's talk a little bit about his Cowboys career
and why Bill Parcells one said I know he's a
football player. Now I didn't know that before last year.
We'll talk about that next on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
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should be Hall of Famer. Nate Newton also with us here.
And then we've got, as we've mentioned, the Pride of Italy.
Get it right, it's not Italy, it's it's two syllables Italy, Texas.
It's Cowboys safety Keith Davis joined us. All right, So
we're talking about this a little bit. We're teasing ahead
a bit. And I gave the quote from Bill Parcells.
This is January two thousand and five, so you two
thousand and two is when you got to the Cowboys.
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So that was the Dave Campos last year here. Then
you were here for the the transition to Bill Parcels
and three, and then you were released at the end
of the three season, correct, and then you ended up
coming back for four, got sent off to NFL Europe.
And I was reading an old article from the Fort
Worth Star Telegram from years ago where they were they
were talking about that process, and that was Bill's quote
(18:15):
where he said, like, you know, sent you off to Europe,
needed to see you prove some things. And he said,
I've got ideas for him, I've got plans for him
this year. And he said, I know he's a football player.
Now I didn't know that before last year. Talk about
the relationship that that you have with Bill Parcells in
some of the ways that that you had to show him, like, hey,
I can be one of your guys. Since we all
know the friends of Bill or Parcels guys, how you
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became one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
Man, it's funny, you know you bring it up like
you said, when Bill first made it there he cut me.
I ended up getting in this situation. I got shot
at at a nightclub out here in Dallas, and as
when it happened, I'm sitting there and the first thing
I think about Nate. I said, yeah, I know this
is coming. So but it didn't happen immediately. So I'm like, okay,
(19:08):
well wait, so I get out of the hospital. Now,
this happened like June twenty ninth of two thousand and three,
and so training camp started at July twenty third and
twenty four. So I'm like, Okay, he didn't come in immediately.
So I'm thinking to myself, I said, all right, I'll
be ready for camp. I say, he's just they're gonna
think that I'm not gonna be ready so they'll give
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him a reason to say, oh, he's not ready. They
So I was sneaking to the facility and work out
at midnight, two three, four times a week. I'd go
in key and I go in there and I work
out on my own. So I'm like, I'm gonna be ready.
So I'm doing the conditioning test. I'm doing everything. So
we report the camp. So when we get the camp,
he's looking at me. They're looking at my wound. When
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I passed my physical, they look at my home. They say, Okay,
he's good to go. I make my mandatory.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Wait.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
But when I come into two o five, it is
supposed to be two o seven, So I get it.
I said, all right, the last part is do the
conditioning test. So we get ready to do the conditioning test.
I said, all right, cool, let me kill the conditioning test.
Boom knocked the conditioning test down. Now I'm like, ah
me and the hard poor is over and now it's
about playing football. So I'm on the phone talking into
my high school coach right after the conditioning test, and
(20:17):
we're sitting there, we're in the child line at dinner
down in San Antonio, and I'm telling coach and I'm like,
I said, yeah, coach, I did everything. Man, Boom, I
passed my physical boom made me mandatory. Wait, boom, I
just finished out the conditioning test. I said, yeah, everything else, man,
it's going down. Now it's time to play football. In
the middle of that conversation, I get a tap on
the shoulder and I turned around as Bruce the Turk.
(20:39):
The turk got something and so I look at Bruce
and I tell her I hang the phone down and said, coach, man,
I gotta call you back. So I hang over with
my coach and I'm looking at Bruce and say, Katie,
come with me and bring your playboo. And so I'm like,
and what I said, You're gonna put me through all
of this and now you're gonna cut me. So I'm
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I'm hot now. So I got to go down and
sign up. And so I was like, is he cut me?
This is what this really crushed me because after he
cut me, I'm going back to clean out my room
and stuff. And the first person I run into is
Woody as I'm getting out the elevator and here's my
favorite player and I'm looking at him and he called
me Diesel He's like diesel. He said, what's going on?
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Where you going? He said, man, we got means? I said, man, Woody,
I said, they just released me.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
He said what.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
He's like, no way, and I'm like, yeah, they just
released me.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
So I'm getting my stuff together and I get out
and I drive all the way back home, and I'm
thinking to myself, like what am I gonna do. I
ain't never not played football. So I'm sitting there and
I'm going through all these emotions. So I sit out
the whole year. Nobody signed me because Bill had already said, oh,
well he's this, he might be that.
Speaker 8 (21:49):
Well.
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Bill brought me back right at the end of the season.
He says, say something will send you in the NFL Europe.
He said, I don't know how this is gonna work.
He say, but I know you go over there. You
keep your nose clear. He said, don't you go over
there and f it up either. I said, all right, cool,
and I go over Boom. We win the championship with
my team in Berlin. I'm defensive Player of the Year
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in my team. I finished second in the overall defensive
Player the Year rating. I come back, man, and I'm
right back where I started, and I finished the season,
I come back and play. So I ended up playing
like thirty something games that year and one year.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I mean you thought.
Speaker 8 (22:26):
At all.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (22:27):
And and when I come back to Bill, he say, Son,
he said you can play? He say, I was had.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
I have reservations about you, you say, but watching what
you've did over in Europe, and to see you come
back and play here, he say, Son, I see right now,
you can play this game.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Do you think it was all that was? It was
the NFL Europe the part of it? Or do you
think all that conditioning test and all those markers he
had you hit and then he still cut you. Do
you think that was still like if you would not
have done the condition right, do you think he would
have even given you that NFL Europe shot.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (22:57):
What I I think I honestly thought they were gonna
use the fact that, oh, well he got shot, he's
not ready to play. And I was determined to prove
them that I was ready to play, regardless of what
had happened. Now, because if you had cut me already,
you should have cut me, because you're gonna give me
a chance to show up. I'm gonna show up and
I'm gonna be ready, and that's what happened. And then
he cut me after it.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
Anyway, Wow, but like what he said, he said, you're
a football player, and that was what your whole mindset was,
even after having that adversity and having the injuries.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
That you had to come back from.
Speaker 10 (23:28):
I mean, the fact that you got back to it
was really that that showed him that you were indeed
of football players. Not only that you could play, but
you were built like it upstairs too. You have the
right mindset.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
I agree. I agree one hundred percent, man, and I'm
grateful for it.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Man.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Like at the end of the day, Bill had already
told us, don't be here, don't do this, don't be that.
I was picking up a friend something altercation broke out,
wrong place, wrong time, and it happened, and I'm like, well,
you you were somewhere where he told you you weren't
supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
And so I can't tell you him in times that
happened to me, I was just driving.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
This is actually I'm curious for you guys on this.
You know, Nate, you spent time in USFL, you did
NFL Europe, the Cowboys the last few years have had
a lot of success getting people from USFL, XFL whatever
different term.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
It has been called the Summer League.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, Cavante Turpin and and you've got Brandon Aubrey and
some of these examples that they've gotten. Giving y'all's experience
in both leagues, do you think that, because it's been
kind of a slow embrace, that's starting to get there,
But do you think that the NFL needs to embrace
more of that? Hey, let's get some of these developmental
leagues together, because just come of some of the practice
restrictions that exist with the CBA.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And things like that. Guys need time to develop and
become the players that they're going to be.
Speaker 9 (24:47):
The problem is not the skill position players, even the
Kidner's opponents. The problem is you can't find enough quality
offensive defensive lineman, so that tears the game down. I mean,
you either got to open this thing like when I
played the USFL and make it all about the offense,
you know, a uh, And that's the only way it's
going to succeed unless you just start taking guys out
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of college and developing them. I'm talking about offensive defense line.
That's where the league is feeling at offensive defense line.
That's how you win on every level.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Even pop warning.
Speaker 9 (25:20):
If you can get a good defense and they get
from Disci one, they can beat up that little running quarterback.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
And there's a shortage. Yes, those positions.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
Yea coach at Bishop Done High School, I'm sure you
guys see the same thing, even trickle down to the high.
Speaker 8 (25:32):
School with a disadvantage in right now, that's okay, we
got work.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
We got work. Yeah, work, You're going to send them
an NFL You're.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I'm glad that the Bishop Done thinking. I'm curious for you.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
You know, you were you were obviously very talented, being
first state on both sides of the ball in high school,
the career that you had, and and and you were
also thought of it. I think it's kind of like
blue collar, hard nos tough, gritty football player. So when
was it in the point of your career or even
after your career? He said, you know what, like, I
want to get into the teaching side of the game, though,
Like I want to tell these guys about the game
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and then start bringing up some of the high school
plays because we see so many of these former players
who come and sit down with us that we find
out that's their big passion project. And I was like, hey,
I'm in the high school football and I absolutely love coaching.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
The biggest thing.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
I feel like I have a wealth of knowledge to
pass on, to pay to play it, pass it forward
from the standpoint that I love this game and this
game is given me everything that I have in my life.
But I gave this game everything that I had, so
and in return, I feel like I owe it to
these kids to give them the knowledge that was given
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to me that I was blessed. Because everybody's not going
to make it. I understand that, but I'm not just
teaching football and I'm teaching life. So you know, for
me my son, I have my youngest he's a freshman,
so he's playing for Bishop Done and so I made
a promise to myself. I say, I'm gonna be there.
I'm gonna walk him through this thing. I want to
sit there. I want to give him everything that I
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have because at the end of the day, once this
is done, I don't want him to look back and
have any excuses to say, hey man, well dad, you
didn't do this and this. Now I'm gonna do everything
I can possible to put you in a position to
be successful in life. It's not just football, basketball, or
whatever it is you're doing. I just understand just knowing
that football teaches you so much about life. Like Naked
(27:32):
attested this, he knows man responsibility and accountability, how to
work with people that you really don't like or get
along with. But we all working towards one come and go,
you know at the end of the day. So for me,
I just giving back to the game. That's always been
a passion of mind. And I enjoy doing what I do.
And the crazy thing, I'm the middle school head coach.
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I'm secondary and wide receiver for the high school. I
enjoy the middle school process more than anything. Ain't because
those kids right there in middle school, sixth, seventh, and
eighth grade, they'll run through the wild for me.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
They run through the wild for me. That's the foundation
of it.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
You get those guys in high school, you know, you
have so many people in the ear where you should
be starting now, you should be there so that you know,
and so you try to tell them something, they feel
like they already knew it. So it's kind of a
little more difficult to get to those kids which I
enjoy the process of that also. But for me, man,
the foundation is right there, sixth, seventh, and eighth grade,
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and I enjoy that process of getting those guys.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
Because the phone dominates. Yes, ye, something about ninth grade. Yes,
in the phone switches a little girl and little girls.
That girl who you I don't like her all of
a sudden, Wow, she's pretty. Now I'm just starting running back.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
All right, let's take our second break here on the
SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk. We're joining tonight by former Cowboys safety
Keith Davis. When we come back, we got to talk
to not only former Cowboys safe to Keith Davis, but
Cowboys super fan Keith Davis about what we saw in
Philadelphia last Thursday. How competitive that game was. If you
can take moral victories out of lost.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
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Speaker 3 (29:19):
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Club for the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk. Got Kyle Yeomens
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three time Super Bowl champions, six time Pro Bowler, future
Hall of Famer, and then we also have former Cowboys
(33:00):
safety Keith Davis with us now. Uh and we're here
on one O five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys
dot Com. All right, we had the the opening game
in Week one against Philadelphia, a game that there were.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Some positives you could take out of it, but but
you guys just.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Said it going to break.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
There's no such thing as as moral victories.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
As as somebody told me one time. I was asking
somebody with the team a couple years back. I was like,
is this a moral victory? And they were like, you
know what's a moral victory?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
UH?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Victories when we win that that helps our morale too.
We don't need the loss to have the moral victory.
But when you look at that game and Keith, I
know you're you're your Cowboys super Fader. I want to
just kind of go down line Keith Nate and then Kyle,
your thoughts just in general on the game and some
of maybe the positive things you think they can build
on in some of the areas of concern.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
When I watched that game, we had every opportunity to
win that game. I think about the fumble that was major.
I'm talking about major. The drafts by CD, that was major.
I mean, n CD would be the first one to say,
you gotta make those plays. One thing that I do
like the defensive line. The defense we were able to
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hold Saque like sixty yards rushing. That's major. You can
you can build on that. I thought the offensive line
played well. I thought we got some movement. I think
at the end of the day, we're we're headed in
the right direction. I like where we're going. But at
the end of the day, there's still no more victories.
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You gotta win and you're gonna be judged by wins
and losses, and that's that's definitely areas we can improve on.
We can get more pressure. We need to get more pressure.
Keep contained. I mean the biggest thing we lost contained
on Jalen. I mean, there were a couple of times
that that fouler in forty one at the end, they
just crashed inside, and I'm like, why you cannot do that?
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I mean, at least just keeping bottled up, you know,
and we'll have a chance to make the place. But overall, man,
I like what I saw for the most part, but
there's still a lot of room for prove.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Me And my biggest thing also, one big, one other thing.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
C D killed number eight, the guy in the first
So when when they moved him to Pickens, why didn't
we go to George and George.
Speaker 9 (35:15):
Like, George answer that question, man, But hey, they'll get
to him when they do this, this office is gonna
gonna flourish, you know what. That played the hell of
the game he did to me, he did and it's
not talked about enough, you know, because I watched offense
Ryan play.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Our offensive line was just good. It was just good,
you know.
Speaker 9 (35:41):
And and and getting to that fourth quarter, his pocket
presence was was nice because it wasn't always nice up front,
and he made some things happen.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Now I'm the.
Speaker 9 (35:56):
CD drops, okay, but that fumble, yeah, right before the half. Uh,
Like I said, a lot of people can cry out
a lot of things. You know, we all got our
podcast making. You know, we gotta gotta feel content.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
That's crucial.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Bro.
Speaker 9 (36:10):
If that had been Bill and Jimmy, I told him,
I said, I asked Date his Miles still here?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (36:18):
Man?
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:21):
With Bill?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, Bro, I watched You're a veteran. Yeah, Jimmy would
have been like he called him, you call him who
you call Bruce the Turk. We called him the crib keeper,
called the crib the crib tap on the shoulder. Yeah,
man in the world like that. But anyway, go ahead,
(36:48):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Yeah, I think you guys hit on a lot of
the great points. Leaving points off the board there in
the red zone was big. And to talk about, I
mean the last coaching staff Mike McCarthy went Hunter Lipkey
fumble that the goal line against Miami. Yeah, a couple
of years back, he didn't have another snap the rest
of the year, another carry.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
He had some snaps that didn't have another carry the
rest of the year.
Speaker 10 (37:09):
So it's still a modern day thought process, but it's
a little more relaxed in certain situations. With Miles Sanders,
I was a big proponent of keeping him on the roster,
so breaks free for forty nine yards on that drive.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Looked good the whole tubesman, and then he gets.
Speaker 10 (37:24):
Caught from behind by a linebacker and Zach Bond that
was the first thing, is like, oh, man, maybe he
just doesn't have that next level, that next gear. And
then to have the fumble. It was kind of a
double whammy there at the back end of it. It's
still forty nine yard game. I liked what we saw,
and then of course it falls to the ground.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
But you talked about Dak looking great.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
I thought his play was phenomenal, and then I know, Nate,
you go back and watch the film pretty quickly afterwards.
I usually try and do it the morning after. I
try and spend watching the game back on all twenty two.
I've never been so refreshed watching the interior defensive line
play that we saw on Sunday, maybe my entire time
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covering the team going back to twenty nineteen. I mean,
it's been rough in the middle all the way through
these years, whether it's guys like Mazi or Don Terry
Poe or struggling in the middle that on names outside
of that, because it's not just those two guys who
have had struggles in the run defense and on the interior.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
But Kenny Clark, my goodness, I mean, there are a
couple snaps.
Speaker 10 (38:21):
He has, absolutely and it's something that and we said
it when he got traded in the Mica trade. He
gets off the plane is your best defensive tackle. He
gets off the plane as your best nose tackle in
a one technique, and he's got some versatility on the
line too. Think we saw a sliver of why he
could make a really big impact here in Dallas.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
And it's just week one.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
And even though it is just week one, and went
up against the team that led the NFL in rushing
last year and arguably has the best offensive line in
the NFL. So benchmark wise, you've already seen the best.
He should only continue to get better in his second, third, fourth, fifth,
and so on week as a part of this organization.
So it was a good start for me in the
run defense. And that was a big positive to build
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off of.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
This is you have enough new guys, veterans and young guys.
When and I'm going back to Jim and Parcels, when
we played a team that we felt that was physically better,
we found out what that true tempo is. I'm hoping
that our boys can feel that temple and start dishing
that temple, living up to that temple. The problem with
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practices is Jimmy Parcels. Parcels was his mentor. Jimmy used
to tell us I don't need for the game to start,
and you right here. I need for the game to
start and you right here. That means all we gotta
do is take two steps and we closing the door. Yea,
that that is what we missed.
Speaker 10 (39:46):
You felt like you had to take multiple steps to
get there, to get there, and they got close, but
just not enough.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
And that's where it from. That's fair.
Speaker 9 (39:53):
Yeah, that's what it because we you know, even though
Emmett told it in the one hand, the same hands,
and you know, you know him will we don't need,
we don't need a fumble. Yeah, that's the last thing
he will hear, you know. And then I jump off side.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Start sixty one offense. Yeah, five yard penalty.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's a that's a I really want to zero in
on that discussion you're having there about like the gap
on game day. Yeah, and then practically and because both
of you, I'm curious what this means you you might
be able to interpret this. There's a lot of discussions
were talking about the Miles Sanders thing. There's a lot
of discussion about why is Jayden Blue not out there
a fifth round pick, a guy that you wanted to
be involved these sort of things, and people talking about
man's he's got the speed he's breaking away. To be fair,
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I will give Miles Sanders' credit, I don't know what
the Jayden Blues running with the same patience to even
get down because.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thats a lot of coggestion and he he bought.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
So so but when you look at that, Brian Schottenheimer
got asked why was he inactive and and he made
a state and he said, look, he said, we we
need guys. He said, Tyler Booker is a good example
of a rookie who he's not been perfect, but he's
been consistent.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
We know what to expect from him. This is what
he did.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
He said, there's some guys they're doing what they need
to do on Wednesday, and then Thursday they're not, and
then Friday they're they're they're doing what they need to do.
But oh, this isn't great. He's like, I just need
to know the same guy every day. So when Brian
Schawtinheimer said something like that, cut through and he's not
generally coach speak guy, but cut through maybe some of
the coach speaking just say what what does that mean?
In practical terms? What is somebody like a Jaydon Blue
doing on a Thursday? That would be something that a
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coach would say, you're not ready to step out there
on game day.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You may miss a blitz that's Dak on his back.
Speaker 9 (41:19):
Yes, yeah, and see yeah, I don't care if you're
running right home, but I need from in that corner, uh,
that late safety blitz come off that end. I do
not need you looking over to your left because that's
Dak that that right there was scared of running back
and a head coach to death like where was she
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supposed to be? And see you don't get a second
chance from your quarterback and splatter. Yeah, I mean, mistakes happen,
but you don't want them mistakes. Now, that's why Sanders
is a little bit different. Ye, I mean I cracked
the joke about but that's where he would see that he.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
Picked up.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
And picking up those I mean that is you have
so much investing in that you can't afford for dak
to be on his back because a running back went
the wrong way on the Blitz pick up man and
he's like, oh my bad, No, it's.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Not so bad.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Does that mean something to guys you think when they
see here's a guy Jing Blu who's expected, like people
talking about him being the starting running back potentially when
they hit camp, but he's not just being handed something
like does that does that mean something of the guys
who are fighting for active spots on game?
Speaker 5 (42:25):
Any things like that?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Like, Okay, if I put in the work I'm seeing
as long as we're doing with Shotty says to do,
we will be given the opportunities and there's not gonna
be anything just politically given to anything.
Speaker 9 (42:35):
It's two or three times I can straight out tell
you when it's been open competition and it's showing up parcels.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
First got here, yep, he told everybody. I don't know
none of y'all. Oh you are to Jersey numbers.
Speaker 9 (42:46):
When Jimmy got here, and I'm thinking, now, it's the
first time in a long time. You know, you got
the core players, the four or five players that are
slided in, but everybody else got to pick up the game.
Speaker 7 (43:00):
I mean everybody else. I mean being ahead wooding them
with their name on the front of that.
Speaker 8 (43:05):
I'm looking. I'm thinking, it's not just rookies, this is everybody. Look.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
So he's and he always would say, he says, it's
going to come a time you're gonna have to show me. Yes, right,
he said, I don't care you. You guys have been here,
you veterans, Whatson, You're gonna have to show me. You're
gonna have to show me. And you not, did you
not by going on to the NFL you were coming?
Did you not have to sho show them.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
I've got a story that kind of plays along with that,
and it's with Coach Schottenheimer, one of the individuals within
the building that's a.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Part of practices, and we were just having a.
Speaker 10 (43:35):
Conversation about the culture and about the energy and all
the terms that now Cowboys fans are probably tired of
hearing of the there's a standard in practice where if
you make a mistake, you have a false start, you
have an off side, you miss an assignment, you're out
for the next rep. Right well, during the previous coaching staff,
and this is not a knock on Mike McCarthy, but
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they invest their times in their starters, and so if
you're CD Micah, whatever the big name starter was during
the Mike McCarthy era, if you messed up or you
missed a rep, not.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
Traditionally, not every time, they would leave.
Speaker 10 (44:10):
During the first camp practice that there was a rep
where Dak had a miss cue, he missed time, the snap,
he missed time, the snap count.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
It popped up.
Speaker 10 (44:19):
Brian Schottenheimer was right behind him and said get out
of here, for you're out of here, and in comes
Joe Milton, and Joe Milton filled in for that rep,
and Dak looked like surprised for a moment that there
was that conversation. So I think there's a level of
accountability there. But it's still week one. There's a long
way to go in the season, and it's gonna take
time for that accountability to show up on a on
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a field and show up in a in a bigger sense.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
But at least it's heading in the right direction.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
No, I get that, man.
Speaker 7 (44:46):
You always want to hold every every player accountable for
their own actions. I mean, and when you see something
like that happens, then he lets those other guys know
that we're fighting for ROSSI spies night.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
Yes he's not Okay, he's not getting I got a chance.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
I got a chance.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
And as far as and go back to the Philly game,
Joe Milton would have been playing anyway if I was that.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Hey, you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (45:11):
That is a That is a great little look at
Keith Davis could be a professional broadcaster too, because that
that is a great tease. When we come back, We're
gonna take a look at the New York Giants. But
I'm also gonna ask you, guys, have you ever been
so mad you could spit? We're talking about that with
Keith Davis, Nate Newton, Kylie Owens, I'm Bobby Belts. We'll
be back here on the sl BBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
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(49:05):
former Cowboys safety Keith Davis. So we we teased it
a little bit, going to break and and Nate had
just wide eyes and and and looked like he had
a lot that he wanted to get off of his chest.
So Dan, I'm gonna start with you, uh, the the
Jalen Carter spitting incident, your your just general thoughts on
how all that happened? And have you ever seen a
player get ejected before the first snap?
Speaker 11 (49:28):
No?
Speaker 3 (49:29):
No, no, no, I mean did anybody get ejected in
the ninety three tunnel the NFC Championship game?
Speaker 7 (49:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (49:34):
But but but I'm with I'm with Keith Man. It
should have been two dudes ejected at least three, maybe
three or four, because brother, I'm looking brother.
Speaker 9 (49:45):
Brother, it's two Thames.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
You're not gonna do to me?
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Man?
Speaker 9 (49:52):
Now, you making do one on? When I got my
heim on, you making snap me with my heilmet on
and I won't be as irate, you know, but my
helmet off and you slap me.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
We're gonna take that.
Speaker 9 (50:02):
We're gonna walk it off the field, you know, you
know they can baby to do for Philadelpha his security.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I'm gonna bust him.
Speaker 9 (50:08):
Up to We're gonna walk this off the field, big dog.
I'm gonna follow him right onto the bus till I
get my hands on it. So so spitting man, I'm
past keep it ain't happening. I'm getting fine.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Whatever. The little two thousand just paying me for month
a week. I'm losing it. You can tell me.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
Is there any chance you guys would know you you
know how loud it is on the field and everything
that is there any chance they wouldn't have seen Jalen
Carter do that?
Speaker 5 (50:34):
Like they didn't see it happen. They just knew something
had occurred.
Speaker 8 (50:37):
Not in today's game. I mean, it's too many.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
The guy's in the huddle actively in that moment. Is
it possible they didn't see it?
Speaker 7 (50:44):
It's crazy because when I look back, when I saw
it on the line of wind, the hood of getting ready,
they were getting ready to do that and him would
had on whatever the what happened, whatever they had going on.
And then you can see that he walked through that's
been at the ground, but he when he walked through
the linean and you can see all the linemen had
their backsterms just like this the whole time. So it
(51:06):
was one of those things where it was like that
was just him and it seemed like it was something
deeper than me.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
But I'm gonna tell you something. See this is believe
it or not.
Speaker 9 (51:17):
I don't know if it's a bad thing, but how
do you follow at number ten? But that's one of
these he failed to tell spot in the Eagles guy question. Yeah,
that's what.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
This dude is. Man, He's a switch.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (51:28):
I mean one minute he rides Mitchell rolling it. Next minute, man,
he's trying to take you ride.
Speaker 5 (51:32):
Well, and the story we got postgame.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
The story we got postgame was the whole reason for
the initial Dak and Jalen Carter interaction was when they
walked on the field, Jalen Carter was instantly trying to
get in Tyler Booker's head, okay, and it was chirping
at Tyler Booker and Dak basically stepped in it was
like a deal with me and like started dealing so
on that kind of a front. Is that is that
(51:55):
similarly like a hey, I got a captain, I got
a quarterback who's gonna ride a different guy like Tyler
book or other guys on the offensive line when it's like, man,
this rookie's walking out here of the field, he's getting
trash talk by a super Bowl hero Jayalen Carter, and
it's your quarterback step and I'm going you can you
can lead this.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
You can talk to me if you need to talk
to somebody.
Speaker 8 (52:12):
You know.
Speaker 9 (52:12):
The thing about it, man, they do it how they
do it because we had no use talking stoop. But
nine times out of ten, regardless of who he is,
as much respect as I have with Jerome Brown, you
weren't just gonna, you know, you one would talk to
me any kind of way. And I'm gonna give you
my best that I can.
Speaker 8 (52:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (52:29):
Well, and wasn't it wasn't there a stat out there
too where the only sacks that Tyler Booker allowed was
to him in college was only to Jayalen Carter at Georgia.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
That was the only time only guy that had any
level of success. So Dak probably whether he do that
or not, he's gonna step up for his guy.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
He always has me and he always will.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
But to I think there was that the fact that
the cameras you talked about having too many cameras, the
cameras picked it up.
Speaker 10 (52:57):
Dak was spitting in the general direction, and then he
notices that conversation and decides to continue stepping in the
middle of it, and then it ends up escalating.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
It's just a while.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I saw the switch. Yeah, when they showed him. I
don't know if it's a good thing.
Speaker 9 (53:16):
I say, ten is a great place in the NFL
to be chosen tent flair pig, but he failed.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
He's a great place the top two pick yah.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
The top two talent for sure. That guy was supposed
to wreck sh up. Now when we just said, Nate said,
we had guys that we're talking to us and and
Keith Davis is our guest here tonight. Keep you put
your hand up.
Speaker 5 (53:35):
So that was so.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
Can you remember a time of just a guy that
I know you said, pop Kevin Smith used to pull
on Jerry Rice's towel and get him on. Can you
remember one player in particular that used to just like
get under their skin and and get them out of
the game.
Speaker 7 (53:51):
Oh we got I remember we were playing Carolina and
the Panthers and we got Steve Smith kicked out.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
And that's a last night. Yeah, we got Steve Spick
kicked out of the game.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
We played.
Speaker 7 (54:05):
Uh we we go up to Carolina and uh we
doubled him the whole game. Like I was over the
top the whole game. And whether it was Newman or
Anthony Henry, whoever was the corner was I mean, he
was so frustrated the whole game. And I think Newman
that hit him out of bounds and and he was
he was talking smack and I started talking smack back
(54:27):
to him, and he I think he either bumped into
the referee or he did something. And the next thing
you know, they're like eighty nine's out of there. And
that was the best thing that could have happened for us.
I'm like, so, Steve Smith, I remember that we was
up in Carolina. He only had like two catches at
the time when it had happened. Man, man, I mean
Steve Smith the utmost respect for that guy. I'm talking about.
(54:49):
He's a great, great competitor. He'll let you know about
it anytime he's doing anything, and we would go back
and forth. Man, So I love competing against him. Man,
great player, But we got him out all right here.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Just about the last minute that we got really quickly.
Giants coming up this weekend Russell Wilson. Brian Dable confirmed
Russell Wilson will be back out there starting. A guy
that you know, Shot, he's very familiar with. He let
him cook in Seattle and he's talked to Joke before
that that might have gotten about in Seattle really quickly. Keith, Nate,
just your quick keys to the game.
Speaker 7 (55:19):
What you want to see this week, man, I want
to see is, first of all, continue to run the ball.
Speaker 8 (55:25):
Williams. Man. I thought he was.
Speaker 7 (55:27):
He was working, working really well for us, and I
didn't understand why he wasn't in the game when it happened.
But I understand. You got to give guys break. Continue
to let Dak do what he's doing. Jeans, spread the
bottle around in defensive wise we get a little more pressure.
Speaker 8 (55:41):
I think we can get a little more pressure. I
love the way we stopped to run.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
I love the way we competed, competed as a whole
and so if we can continue to do that, man,
it's something to build on.
Speaker 9 (55:51):
Don't think you gonna show up on the Giants. They
got a defense man that's waiting to crush folks. To
be competitive, no mistakes offensive lyne play your best.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
Sexy deck is not joking.
Speaker 6 (56:04):
Yeah, win the turnover battle.
Speaker 10 (56:07):
No team in the NFL has had a worse turnover
to touchdown ratio in the NFL since it started twenty
twenty three. Giants are twenty seven touchdowns, twenty seven interceptions.
Speaker 6 (56:17):
Interceptions. That's not even counting fusboards.
Speaker 10 (56:19):
Keep that in mind going into this week, because if
you can turn them over a couple of times, then
all of a sudden, you're gonna win that football game.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
That is kyleie Owmens from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We've had,
of course Nate Newton with us all and thank you
to our special guests this evening for the Cowboys safety Davis,
it was great having you all. The best have Bishop Dune,
and we appreciate.
Speaker 8 (56:38):
You joining us. Appreciation many.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
We will be back again next week for the SLBBC
Cowboys Cross Talks.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club
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