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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Cross Talk. We are
live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.
Thank you for joining us on one five through the
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Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Tonight, I'm joined by nor Normally I go straight into
Nate Newton. That's not the case tonight because I'm joined
by Tommy Yarish and Nick Eatman from Dallas Cowboys dot
com first timer Tommy Rish on Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yeah, happy to be here. This is a great crew
that we've got for my first time, so I appreciate
you having me.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, and it's a you get to be part of
a special show because we're joined as always by the
three time Super Bowl champion and six time pro bowler
Nate Newton. But this is a special setup today because
Nate Newton is the focus of our conversation tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
He has slid one.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Chair over to the far right and he is going
to be the focus of our conversation night as our
Cowboys legend.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Nate Newton, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yes, uh, and this is Nick said, nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Nobody cares. This is your show tonight, Nate niggy.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Yo.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
Yeah yeah, but this is your show. Remember we talked
about that.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yeah, thank you for the t in front of the
you know, the beverages, man, and way to come.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right into our show, man, was time perfectly for man.
Thank you, sir oh man. Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So Nate, while you're getting your spot of tea, you know,
I obviously you know we we've had so many different
conversations with you here, yuh, Nate, So I mean, there
there's so many details that we already know about your
your career in.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
The NFL and and the way that you came up.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But but I mean there's a lot I think that
we haven't touched on and stuff that we can dive
a little deeper into. One of those is just the
fact that it's amazing to take a look at the
coaches you've played for, Yes, sir, in your career, I
mean all the way back to you know, Florida and
m You've got Rudy Hubbard, Joe Gibbs, Steve Spurrier, Jimmy Johnson,
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Barry Switzer, Chan Gaily, and George Seffert.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
That's ten Super.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Bowl rings, seven National Championships, five NASCAR Cup Series championship
and Chan Gaily.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Uh sous?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
When you I want to talk first about your time
with Rudy Hubbard, a guy who was just recently in
the last couple of years inducted in the College Football
Hall of Fame and recognized for the accomplishments that he had.
But but I know you talked to us last week
about when you were in high school, you didn't have
like a big drive at that time to be a
great player.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You liked hitting people.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
You know, you you you.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Enjoyed the physicality of the sport. When you got to
Florida and m and you got to play under Rudy Hubbard,
is that where you started to see not at all.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I was still a wow man, and we've some of
the things. I was just so out of control. I
didn't get under control until maybe my when I was
in my forties. I've been an out of control guy
all my life, just having fun and living, just living
at the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Sin for life, just for a simple word. And I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Like in college, you know, right before a game and
I would give you my free game getting ready.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I took me.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I like brought fifteen hundred dollars worth of damage to
a room before before a football game where men is.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Doing the raffling. We tow the bed up, We told
the tables up.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
About two weeks later, the coach would call me in
and say, man, you just caught from university of fifteen
hundred dollars. Back then, that was a lot of money.
Today that probably would be about three or four thousand
dollars ten of all that stuff in the room.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's that's who I was.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I just I was wow, man, and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's it's so interesting because I know last week you said,
even during your time here in Dallas that it wasn't
even something where like you had developed this session for
the game to say, it was more you didn't want
to let people down. You didn't want to let me
go down. You didn't want to let my down. How
much of that aspect of it? Did you not find
that that family aspect and that that that feeling of
(05:14):
I want to lean I want to be something these
guys can lean on. Did you not find that till Dallas?
Or was that something during the time?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And I found it was in me when I got
to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
You know, h everybody coach hubbut did everything is power
bless his art to to help me be a better man.
I didn't want to be a better man. I loved
being At that time they called me big time. I
loved being big time new That's who I was. That
was my focus. I met a guy last night, said, man,
(05:43):
I went to school with you. I was in this
class with you. I said, well, you knew the crazy news.
He said, yeah, I knew the crazy news. I mean so,
but but I got to the Cowboys class.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know, go to class for what? Wow, I
don't know. He said he went the class with you.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
He would you graduated, okay, And I attended the Universal.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
They were in the same zip code on the campus there.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
You go on the sheet on the roster exactly. Yeah,
I had I had a five star ratings, but I
was just doing it a different way.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Who was better at that time? You were a Pam Oliver.
H she was good at what she did. She was
a quarter model. She was good at what she did.
And uh, great young lady, man, great, great young lady.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But I was the man. I was a big time
new baby. She was just Pam. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's something where I saw an interview you did years ago,
I think it was like ten fifteen years ago, where
you had talked about at that time when you were
at Florida and m and I know they interviewed Pam
Oliver's part of that and Pam was like, yeah, at
the time, Nate was just Nate was kind of mean. Yeah,
and you had talked about that, you said back then,
I just I wasn't very much of a nice person,
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which is wild that hebody who comes up here to
Cowboys club and gets a chance to talk to you,
and they're just like, oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Jovial Nate Newton.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He's just as big personality and friendly as you'd expect.
What led to that those moments in college where you
felt like you were a little bit gruffer and meaner
and and not that guy that that people felt like
they could just walk up to and approach and talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
All I knew was that when I left my mom
and dad house, I was gonna be my own man,
and I was just gonna do it how I wanted
to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
They come, hell of high water.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I was just gonna live how I thought fun was,
and my fun never what was gonna be nick fun.
It never was gonna be your fun time it never.
I mean, if we dranked, I was gonna drink the most.
If we did other things, I was gonna do it
the most. And running trying to run girls even though
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girls wouldn't deal with me. I was gonna try to
be the best at that. So I can't tell you
why I was like that. I was raised from a
good home, great mother and father, never wanted for anything.
Things that was in reason they gave to me. The
coaches loved me. I was like, I say, a fire back.
(08:15):
We didn't have five star Either you was good or
you wasn't good. How Georgia wanted me, Arburn wanted me.
Everybody wanted to accept the Black schools, but everybody else
wanted nor to dame until they went to sar My grades.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And then they never came back and talked to me anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
You know, make when when I listened to those coaches
that he reads off the list, I think about you know,
in today's game, sometimes when you see some coaches struggles
because they can't get their players to buy in, right,
look at that list they get guys to buy in.
When you looking back at the coaches that you've had,
what are some of those strategies that stuck out to
you that you know eventually made you say like, hey,
I'm gonna go run through a wall for this guy.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
It was always about the hard work and being out front.
I never played for a coach that wasn't direct. I've
always I've always been fortunate to play for men that
will look you in your eye and say, hey man,
you wrong you this you that let me help you
fix it this way?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Are you not gonna make the team?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Like coach Gibbs call me in is always say, man,
I want you to make this team, but what you
did last night put shit a bad position.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like, yeah, I'm no coach. Man.
What I'm trying to tell you you can make this team.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Just do the right thing, all right, coach, alright, coach,
But of course I didn't do the right thing, and
of course I didn't make the team.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
One of the things that stands out to me when
you look at that list of coaches, though, that's absolutely wild,
and like we said, we just listened off so many accomplishments.
Dear man, I don't know this for sure. I would
bet if I looked it up, there's not many players
that have played for as many Super Bowl winners as
you have. For instance, I would imagine you're probably high
up on that list. But when you think about you
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played for Steve Spurry, or before Steve Spurry with Steve Spurry, right,
he played for Jimmy Johnson when he was college, but
before he'd come into his own at the NFL. The
same thing with Barry Switzer. Somebody coming to the next
level and proving themselves how much What are your thoughts
or your memories about playing for those three and watching
them develop into the type of personas and leaders that
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they would become known for.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
One thing they one thing they were good at dealing
with people. Coach Johnson knew just how to It's like
he went and read a by on you. He called
you high school coach or whatever. But he knew just
how to handle you. He knew who he could cuss at,
he knew who he could had to talk Jensel to,
(10:44):
he knew who he had to put in the middle.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I mean, it's just this. This dude was a mastermind.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Now, he had his core beliefs, if you do this,
and you do that, and you do this, you'll make
my team.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But he handled each guy so.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Differently, and is the one guy that you could talk
about when he went and hit that ball after a
field goal or pawn or something.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And and Lyon went and ran and hid in the X.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Ray room because he was so fear for that Coach
Johnson was gonna cut him, you know. You know, Coach
Johnson had that look on his page. But when he
when he went in out of Lyon. It was just
so gentle and so kind. Lionn come out man kind
of you know, you know how lion is, and.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And all right, then yeah, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
But until Coach Johnson went back there, that dude was
hanging out in there in the extray. So but he
knew how to have and I was that guy that
the coaches knew. Sometime he'll talk to me, not to
say something to big E so he'll get all over
me trying to get a point across.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But he knew Nate, don't care, Nate, don't walk right
out here. Coach, how you doing? Man? What we're gonna do?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
What we gonna eat for lunch today? Because he knew
I was just that guy. You couldn't say too much
to me to hurt my feelings. You couldn't. And I
don't want to say belittle me because he never did that,
but just the criticism that he would come at you sometime.
He knew I was that guy. Whatever how long was it?
(12:17):
I don't want to say what I've to say, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Let's run to our first break. We got Nate Newton
as our Cowboys legend tonight on Cowboys Crosstalk. We're joined
by Nick Eatman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Nicky, Tommy
Yarsh from Dallascowboys dot Com, and Nate as we throw
it to break, Just one thing for you to consider
a question as we throw to break, I'm curious you
talk about how they're reached a point in your career
in Dallas where you said, I don't want to let
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these guys down and that's what drives me. And so
I'm curious when was that moment where it clicked for
you and you realized I don't like this feeling of
letting them down and I don't want this to be
an issue anymore. This is my motivating factor. That's next
on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
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Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Joined by Tommy Yarsh from Dallascowboys dot Com, Nick Eatman
from Dallascowboys dot Com, Nick, and our Cowboys Legendsy Did
you just heard him? I know you thought he must
have been absent. I got two introductions down.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You didn't hear him.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, it's because he's in the far chair today. It
is the three time Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowler,
hopefully future Hall of Famer, Nate Newton. Nate, thanks for
us sliding over one chair for us to know.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yo, bruh, you go get this right. I'm in the
Hall of Fame. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pro football. I'm
in the Hall of Fame. Baby, I'm a Hall of
Fame player, baby.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yes, no doubt about it. He's a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now, we just asked you when we're going to break
may you talked about how the drive for you became.
I don't want to let Troy down. I don't want
to let Michael Irvin down, Emmitt Smith down. Was there
a point because you obviously said that developed that way
here in Dallas. You didn't arrive here totally like that.
Was there a point during your time in Dallas where
you had a moment where he said, Man, that feeling
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of letting Troy Aikman down or Michael Irvin down hurts
so much more than any sort of other thing that
has pushed me before. And I don't want to feel
that feeling ever again.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
The thing about it, when Jimmy got here, you know,
I talked to Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I thought, I was like, oh man, I'm finna get cut.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
We was doing these sixteen one teams, and Jimmy shah
because I went to jim asaid, Jimmy, you know, are
you know him to call.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Him coach Johnson.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Coach Johnson, hey man, you might will cut me now
because I'm not gonna make.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
These sixteen one teams.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
He said, tell you what you do. You do whatever
you can, dude. Then you just start running. Don't stop.
Just you're gonna be behind everybody, but just don't stop.
Don't make me have to say something to you. I said, okay, coach,
you know that's the asthma. Remember the asthma.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Guy. Hey.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I looked at him like, bro, you should have just
kept running. But you know, I just kept running. That
was the first time I said, wow, you know, Jimmy
making a little exception for you know, a guy that
thought he was gonna be cut. Then I would watch
Troy his seriousness.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Of how he worked out. I would watch I watched
Mike Irvan.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Before Jimmy got his sit on the bench and cry
like a baby because we were losing.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Then I watched.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Emmett, you know, and I talked to him and he
was like, man, this is who I want to be.
And these guys working out, working out, being the best
they can be.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Then we started turning around.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
We started winning and having with me with my antics
always jumping outside and people just looking at me like,
come on.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Man, you know we can we can win this game,
you know, stay on side, you know. And I'm like, wow,
these guys care, I mean.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
And then all of a sudden, I'm like, you know what,
I got to be a little bit better. I gotta,
you know. And I started trying to be better, but
didn't know how. I didn't know how to be a
professional because I never tried in my life to be one.
So I started working out just a little bit more,
start cutting down on the drinking a little bit more,
and then when Charles Haley got here, he said, man,
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he came in our locker room and just had our offense.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He just broke down our whole offense.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
What they saw us as forty nine is what they
thought we were in each player. He broke down Troy
all the way down to me, so and he and
then when he did that, you know, my first thing
was to go at him, you know. And you know,
you know, go at him, you know, But I didn't.
And he came up to me said he now, Nate,
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what I need for you to do is when I
look at you on film in your first six games,
you are all pro. It's no doubt you should be
an all pro. You should be a pro bowler. He said,
this is how we're gonna do it. You're not gonna
fall out of shape like you do every year. You're
gonna get be in better shaped by the end of
the year.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And he said, I want you to meet me over
here on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. We're gonna work out.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
And I was like, what time and he said, he said,
I want you here back probably about five, So we'll
get out of practice and we'll be back by five
and we'll work out.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And that's the first time.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I'm like, wow, and these guys making plays, And all
of a sudden, I started going to Pro Bowls. I
started being All Pro and so and I'm like, and I,
you know, cut down on the all sides. I still
go outside, but cut down on the all sides. And
then you see people like Biggie come in and change
the culture or how we play.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And I sat next.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
To him, and if I didn't have a good game off,
he felt that a lesser player was got the best
of me. I had to hear that, and so it
changed who I was and how men talented of you know,
these guys see a crew. That's why I think these
guys are Hall of famers, because they saw it a
long time ago, whereas it took me a minute.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You know.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Unfortunately for me, I played twelve years, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
This thing could have been over earlier than that.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
You know, when the Cowboys won their first Super Bowl
in the nineties, I mean I was a huge Cowboys fan,
and so it finally got to see a Super Bowl win.
NFL Films put out a video of you know, the year,
you know, the Cowboys. I watched that probably one hundred times.
And one of the things I remember you talk about
becoming a leader. I remember there's a clip from the
Eagles playoff game, you know, in the divisional round, and
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you were telling maybe Isaac Hold or Kenny Gant play smart.
Tell those guys on special teams play smart. You can
tell you'd become the leader right then and there, like
like and probably before that, but at that point in time,
like you know, you were the guy that they were saying, hey,
Nate plays Martin. Now you're the one doing that. Yeah,
So it seems like it trickled down from Troy and
Michael and Charles.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like you said, now you were doing that.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
The thing that when you're a championship team, everybody has
their opportunities, and when you have a new guy or
a young guy, you don't want them to trip up.
One thing that Jimmy was ultra good at was getting
raw talent. He could get the raw talent, he had
to hurry up quickly develop it because we were.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Winning at that time.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
So you you your practices were a lot more serious.
And I ain't talking about the hitting them. I'm talking
about just the mental part of it. And so you
had to share you know, like as great as Larry
Allen is, and thank god he wasn't a left guard
at the time. I was not going to deny him.
Hey man, you need to move your feet like this.
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Hey bro, if you just wait a minute and punch
like this. We shared, bro, and so with Charles Haley
sharing with Tony Toper said, hey man, I could tell
you it's gonna do this like Charlie's Like, man, I
knew I had you to the inside because how you
set your feet, just always sharing information and it was
just like like we having this conversation. That's how our
conversations would be.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You mentioned younger players and kind of having to get
them up to speed. I think that's a good parallel
with what we're seeing right now in this year's Dallas
Cowboys team. From your experience with those guys in the
locker room back when you were playing, what was it
that got those guys up to speed so fast and
had them contributing at a high level early in their careers.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
The thing that the day's NFL is missing, and a
lot of coaches to try to tell you is the competition,
the true competition. You know it's not there, but you know,
you get locked in. The Sarah cap is a great thing,
I think, but once players become who they are, and
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once we as media and fans annaught them, a lot
of times they they save it for the game. And
so when you save it for the game, you know,
you know, you may not practice as hard as you
need to, You may not be as focused as much
as you need to, and that hurts you because now
your technique suffers. And now when you're trying to tell
a guy, see Charles would tell me, hey, man, you
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set your feet like this, I jumped inside on you.
Well the next play we were wide open. Well, if
you tell a guy that now he never gets to
work on it. A lot of times you do have
to work in practice, not all the time. Some players
could just do it, like Mark Stepknotzky, he could see
it on film, he could do it. I had to
do it in practice. I had to see it on film,
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write it down and do it in practice. I had
to cover all three steps, visual, physical, and mental. Step
was just mental, you know. So And a lot of
times like I talked to coach Clarity today and I
know he thought I was coming up to try to
tell him and I talked to the strength coach and
I told him both the same thing.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Coach, tell a kid.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
To calm down, just tell him to settle down, right, Yes,
just just ease.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Up, brother, don't overthink this thing.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Let your natural ability because the kid, what we saw
in training camp, the kid got natural feet. But be like, well, okay,
if he got natural feet, how does he keep getting
beat to the inside. Well, the bottom line is he
don't believe in his feet because he's jumping out so soon?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are he kicking out laterally too fast?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
All he got as good as his feet is, he
can almost be a step slow to take away that
natural jump to the inside.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
But for some reason he panicking it. You know, he
got long arms. Maybe it's the strength, the lack of strength,
of the lack of confidence in his strength. But I
don't want to ruin this kid, and so you know,
you don't want to say nothing too bad.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
But like I tell people, sometimes, just just calm down.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Your first round pick.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Let that be to your advantage, not don't let that
be a pressure point that Hey, I'm a first round pick.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm gonna get these reps. They're gonna give me these reps.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You know, it's just started taking advantage of each rep
that you get.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And to build off of that. With guy specifically, he's
playing a position he hasn't played a lot in left tackle.
How much harder does that make that learning curve?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
It is great because it don't help when the first
three or four guys you faces top ten talent. Yeah
it you know in this league of zero to sixty
in training camp where you miss, can miss all the
days you want and then go to zero to let
me tell you.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A quick story. You don't.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I played football, but I walked up to a guy.
The RAMS was out there practicing. I walked up to
a guy and I heard a guy say, man, I
know this is just practice, but man, once again, we
ain't gonna better stop than run. You know who that was,
NIGGI Yeah, he said, Man, I know, I know it's
just talk. Yeah, but but yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
And so you could see it in those gold line drills,
right YEA, just for pushing them in, pushing.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Them in, and so.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
A lot of times when you have young guys, you
have to work them a little bit. I ain't saying
you have to go every drill every but sometime, especially
when you got.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
A guy a new position.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
You know, we needed Micaeh in practice every day with
some pads on so this kid could get every rep.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Today he walked in there for OTAs, y'all, And and
I'm always say this as long as I'm a part
of this group. When you drove the guy in the
first round, you do not have the luxury anymore to wait.
He missed two hundred reps in OTAs, and he missed
one hundred and fifty reps in training camp.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Those are valuable reps that was missed.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We're gonna take our second break now. Before we do,
I want to again leave you with a quick question. Nate,
you've expressed your own frustration about lack of toughness or
vocal leader ship at times with this current Cowboy squad.
So hearing you describe how guys started leveling up and
Tony Tolbert and Charles Haley and the accountability and stuff
like that. And I think I know the answer to this,
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but we'll still throw it to a break with this.
I want to know do you think that you guys
just had a unique, rare number of competitors and leaders
or do you think leadership is just that contagious when
it's done right? And so we're gonna hear from Danton
on that next on the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
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Speaker 3 (31:41):
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Speaker 4 (31:53):
I'm Bobby Belt from one of five Through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
We've got Tommy Yarish from Dallas Cowboys dot com, Nick
Eatman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
As Nate was just pointing out.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
During the break from DC storyline, Yeah well one of
the most active wildly.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, no, it's absurd the stuff that he can tap into.
I need to have you for Babe Lafenberg's trivia question
each week.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I gotta have you sitting right there next to me
because I I freeze like deer in the headlights occasionally
on him, and it frustrated.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I was one for two today on the show. Was
a little disappointed. Oh I got Carl Poe as an answer.
I don't know if you remember him, but I didn't
get the last time the Cowboys had a tie It
was the forty nine ers, nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
That was the last time they tied out. Really yeah, geez? Okay,
well you learn something new every day.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
We're joined tonight by Nate Newton, the three time Super
Bowl champion and six time Pro bowler. He is our
Cowboys legend this evening, sliding over one chair and letting
us pick his brain a little bit.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
And former Bully sounds like from from fam you days. Yeah, yeah, man,
straight up man bully. Wait, wait, time out. I don't
know about that. Can I tell the story? Yeah, okay,
I'm gonna tell the story my first training camp covering
the cop year nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes, sir, Wichita falls, I was.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
I was a lot less cheeseburgers than this, And so
I was at practice and I'm standing like in the
end zone. It's like a gold line drill, all right,
and all of a sudden, here they come like sweep
left em it Chris Warren, who knows who was running?
All of a sudden, here's Nate and I'm like, out
of Nate's way. I'm not, Oh, here it comes, but
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you know, and you ran about fifty yards, didn't hit anyone.
So I'm moving over here and he's about where he
is right now. He decides to shove me because he could.
I didn't hit else, so he just kind of shoved me.
I go flying this way. Maybe I don't think it
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went down, but I probably embraced myself. And that's why,
really like why, because it just felt wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That far be that fat and run that far hit
Yeah this goofy.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Dude, Yeah you gotta hit somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Now, we mentioned that you said you We said the
Florida A and m Bully a little bit. But you
talked about and we've we've we've painted this already. How
you had this shift when you got to Dallas and
you realize, oh, I'm playing I'm playing for something bigger
than me or my attitude or whatever else I'm playing for,
like the the I don't want to disappoint these guys.
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I don't want to let these guys down and you
listed it seems like you know, you've listed fifteen names
who were leaders for you guys there, and you step
it in and becoming one through that. So the question
I threw at you before the rate because I know
you've been frustrated at times with the lack of vocal
leadership here. You've talked about it on this show. Do
you feel like you guys had just a rare collection
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and number of leaders on your football team or do
you think that, Hey, when leadership is done right from
a few, that's what happens. It spreads and other guys
natural become leaders, and it's contagious, and that's why it's
so critical for a couple of guys to stand up
and be those leaders.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
The forty nine ers left tackle the forty nine ers
two years ago, both linebackers. The forty nine er is
Joey Bosa. Those are leaders not only vocal, but how
they play. It's how you play and what you're willing
to share on that practice field, and when you say,
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what you say is what counts.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean a lot of people chirp.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I mean we we we every week we hear some
certain guys chirping.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
But we never see that the back you know it's.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
You ever seen a leader that didn't make the Pro Bowl? Ah,
Because I'm talking about like you're sitting here saying like
guys say like I'll do this, I'll do that, or
do that. But if you're a second team, or if you're.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Average, or if you're you're stay in your place.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
That's what I'm saying. So I feel like leadership is
the great play. If you're not a great player, I've
seen a backup running back here, try to be a leader.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
A leader. It don't work. You gotta fight, carries a game. Yeah,
the thing is, but the thing is not.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
You know, I feel so bad for Troy because they
threw Troy to me under the bus because people saw
Troy in the films coming at the offensive line. Troy
maybe did that seven or eight times in two years,
but they found that film where he's going at us.
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Now they expect for Dak in this model theyn there
to do the same thing won't work right now, you.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Are your receiver can't even get on the same page.
You think if you throw.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Him under the bus out in front of one hundred
million people, you think hees you're up in.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Practice the next day. I don't think so. So it
is what it is. You just have to find a way.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
As as the quarterback, offensive play caller, and head coach,
you just have to find a way to make it work.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I mean, there's nothing else to be said. Fellas.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
If you think that going out eating the steak then'
makes you close. That don't make you close. You have
to have a common goal and that goal has got
to be winning. And that is when I became closer
to my teammates. When my common goal is I'm getting better.
I won't let these guys now, but at the end
of this, I'm gonna win. If that common goal and
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that common thread is not winning, you have a bunch
of bad attitude acting guys.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What can that do? What? Please don't fire me?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
What can mister Jones do once you give them the
bag as these young people call it, tell me what
can you do? You got to rely on the drive,
the enthusiasm to want to Michael Irvin. People never called
Mike Urban selfish. I called him selfish all the time.
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They're like, why you call Mike selfish? Well, I mean
he wanted the ball every time. Every time he was
gonna raise saying if you didn't give it to him.
Emmett was selfish. He wanted the ball and he was like, hey, Mike,
don't sco down there because I want to run the
football in.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I mean they used to laugh about it, but that.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Selfishness was channeled through team. I know, I gotta have
Nate right. I know I gotta have well he ain't
never had to get big E right. That was always right,
and Larry Allen was always right. But you had certain
guys you had to do checkboxes on and I was
one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
So that is get what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
But if a guy don't care, Jimmy was able because
we had no Sarah cap. When he saw a guy
didn't care, especially if we had no ability that he
could try to forge and work, they were gone. Bro,
you can't do that. You can't just get rid of
the offense linement. They are so rare, A decent just
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a just a guy that's just a notch but low average.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
They are so rare, So you got to keep everybody
you can.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Nick, I know you were talking about something during the
break that you want to you want to touch on.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
Yeah, you know it feels like, you know, we've heard
DAK talk about practice and and how they're struggling there.
And I've heard from coaches and players over the years.
You can win and lose games in the middle of
the week, you know, by by your preparation.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
People say you can check out. You don't check out
on Sundays, but you might check out during the week.
And I'm not saying this team is doing that. But
but how do they you said practice is different, how
do they become a better practicing team with based off
the rules of regulations they have here?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Speed?
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Speed?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
One thing I would say that Troy was spot.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
On, uh was with his criticism we had the other
day when he said what he said, Michael Irwin, Alvin Harper,
Kevin Martin, what was our little guy from South Dallas
came from.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
The park returning mind Kevin waves.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
One thing they were not allowed to do because if
you do it once or twice, it is too many
times you had to come off the ball running.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You can have your offensive.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Line job, you can have your defensive ends job, but
in no way in the world can you ever ever
have your wide receivers not running wide open because you
are distorting the next man route. When you are so
selfish that you cannot get off the ball when you
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know you got a deep post so that my man
Fergie can come underneath and catch that ball for a
first down.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That is selfish.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
That is wrong, and it ain't gonna never be right.
In my eyesight, Troy had that spot on. You can't
have a body language where you you're getting ready to
run a smam. You sitting there and you'll say, it's
just stuttering. Man, take off, drive through. That guy inside
showed his slant so we can get this guy over
the top because it's gonna bring the safety in the
line back of down there on you. So now we
got Cooks on the other bus streaking down the field.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Come on, man, thats that That was right? That was right.
I don't know if I can follow that up.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, you know, let's let's jump to our our last
break a little bit early, because I know we want
to get into some of this forty nine ers stuff
and and and set that up there and get some
more Innate's thoughts, because like I said, I think I
think everybody just needs to marinate on what Nate just
said for the next.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Couple of minutes.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
So so when we.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Come back on the SLWBC Cowboys Crosstalk, we will preview
this forty nine Ers game a little bit, get into
some of these injuries. These are two very depleted teams,
it feels like right now, but a critical point for
both of these teams as they enter week eight. That's
next on the SLWBC Cowboys Crosstalk.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
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Speaker 1 (44:57):
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Dallascowboys dot Com and our Cowboys Legends. Evening is the
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three time Super Bowl champion and six time.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Pro Bowler Nate Newton.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Nate, this is a a very big game they have
coming up with forty nine ers this weekend. It's one
where there's been a lot of bitterness for this Cowboys
team in recent years. I looked something up though the
day I believe it was when I looked it up
this scorning. I think nine of the players that started
in the last playoff game that Dallas in San Francisco
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played a year and a half ago, whatever it was,
nine of the twenty two starters are still on the team,
which means most of them are gone and or won't
be available because of a Michael Parson's injury or DeMarcus
Arns or whatever else. Heading into a game like this
where in past years they've tried the angle of man,
we want the juice of revenge and guys who remember.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
What this feels like.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Is there a little bit of a benefit potentially to
walk into this game with youthful ignorance, Guys who say,
I don't have an idea of what this team's done
to us, and I don't view them as this big,
bad wolf.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
They're just another team across from us.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Yes, I would say that would be positive if you
were say maybe five and one and and you have
been winning tough games because the forty nine Ers game.
We have a lot of people out. They have a
It's still gonna be a physical, tough game. We have
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not proven yet as of to date, when we play
equal or better talent, that we can overtake this talent.
And I know that Guidan is not to play it
against them, but even open his eyes, he can Fini
to go into another tough game. I know that Cooper
hasn't played against him, but he's finna get out. These
guys are still a very good team. They got eight turnovers,
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eighteen sacks. I mean, their defense is still there now.
They giving up points, but that's what we're suffering in
the red zone. So even if we drive the ball
down there, we still got to come overcome our mental
lack of whatever while we can't get into red zone.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Nick, I'm curious for your thought on this when you
look at even with all the players that the forty
nine ers may be missing. We were talking before the
show here with Kittle missing practice, Steve Ball, all these
different guys that are rock perty may be missing eighty
five percent of his career completions in this game. Even
with all those guys missing, do you think this can
(47:50):
be a bigger psychological boost for the Cowboys winning this
game than any other game that's on the schedule.
Speaker 8 (47:55):
Without a doubt, it could be because you know, they
need I don't think if the end of the day
and nobody cares about that, because nobody cared, you know,
Detroit didn't care that they beat a you know, Micah
Parsons last team and all that stuff. They didn't care
about all that. You know, I think I think it
will be a huge boost.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I know you're talking.
Speaker 8 (48:12):
About players that are different. I go back to nineteen
ninety one. Okay, Eagles nineteen ninety one, and you're probably
thinking immediately, oh, they lost twenty four to nothing, gave
up eleven sacks early in the season at home. But
the end of the year they came back and won
that game. And that was a huge hurdle mentally because
the Eagles were the big, bad bully.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Get over that.
Speaker 8 (48:34):
Home they got They made it to the playoffs by
beating Philly that day in a huge turnaround from earlier
in the season to that, which has kind of what
we're talking about here. Got beat forty two to ten
last year. Can you turn it around? It's been a year.
But I think it would be a huge boost for
a lot of reasons, especially because they are that big,
bad bully right now and everyone knows it. And even
if you were here or not, you see you watch
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the Cowboys losing to the forty nine ers in the playoffs,
So I think it would be a huge boost.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
You've been in the locker on Monday and Wednesday when
we've had some availability and gotten a chance to talk
to guys like Eric hendricks Into, Marvin overshowing him, Micah
Parsons and guys who I mean are up in the
air in terms of their availability. But what's your sense
of the tone and the tenor from this Cowboys team
right now? Because I'll be honest, I thought Mike McCarthy
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coming out on Monday was great because I feel like
for a head coach who at times I think can
get on his heels a little bit in that press situation,
he didn't. He came right out and said, Yeah, we
got to work on the by this is what's wrong.
This is what we're gonna do to fix it, and
we're gonna have success with it. And we're doubling down,
we're drilling down, and we're gonna have it. Are you
seeing that that sort of focus, that mental focus in
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that drive mirrored in the locker room this week.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Yeah, I am, And I think the interesting point where
you saw that was Eric Kendricks today because you think
back to March when Eric Kendricks was basically a San
Francisco forty nine or except the ink was and try
four days later he becomes a Dallas cowboy and joins
up again with Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
So the coach speak.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
Answered the media answer that you're getting here is this
is just another game and those kinds of things. But
when you've lost the last three, you haven't won on
the road against San Francisco since twenty seventeen, you know,
in the player's hearts of hearts and Mike McCarthy's hearts
of hearts, it just means a little bit more, And
it especially means a little bit more when you go
into this game three and three and you need a
win like this to kind of turn the tide on
what you've seen.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
So far this season.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
So, like Nick said, nobody's gonna feel sorry that San
Francisco is injured. Nobody's felt sorry so far the Dallas
has been injured. This is an opportunity for Dallas to
go on the road pick up a statement win against
a team that they have struggled against in years past,
and you know, kind of not that they've gone off track,
I don't think this season, but they certainly haven't started
how they've wanted to.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right, the chance to go four and oh on the
road is.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
A really good opportunity and it could bode well for
this team going forward because you think about the success
that Mike McCarthy has had after the bye during his
time in Dallas to finish out the regular season. The
Cowboys are twenty five and thirteen the last four years
after the bye.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
To finish it up, Nick, what was Mike Tyson's best punch?
I mean them?
Speaker 8 (51:02):
I mean, yeah, yeah, the one that connected usually the
first one. Yeah, because there wasn't a second one. I
don't know, I mean, but.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
He had a nice right, He had a nice right
overhand right now. But see, this is not this is
what hurts. This is when I when I'm talking about
a mental thing. When I'm talking about a mental thing.
You named all those whide receivers missing, but they're still
able to must up over one hundred and some yards rushing.
Speaker 8 (51:31):
Second in rushing right.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Mason j Mason.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Jordan Mason, the NFL Pro had the stat this week
nobody has broken more tackles in the NFL this season
than Jordan Mason.
Speaker 6 (51:41):
And so that is still yeah, that is if see
I believe in overdoing things pretty missing all those wide receivers.
Kittles is banged up and he will be on the
end of the line. He don't do a lot of
whole lot of lot of stuff. So you put him
he's at end of the line. I'm gonna put hands
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on him every time. He's gonna battle to get off
that off that offensive line, and I'm putting twelve guys
up there on the line of scrimmage. I'm gonna make
Brock pretty beat me. He holds the ball three point
two seconds, I'm gonna make him beat me with these backups. Now,
are we willing to do that? Is Mike Zimmer willing
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to do that?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Would you?
Speaker 6 (52:25):
Because if he's not, we're gonna we will face the
same thing we faced.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Basically say, hey, stack box for Jordan Mason. We're going
eight defenders in the box, and Brocker is gonna have
to beat me.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
He's gonna have to with these backups that you're you
just said it. Who's the guy that's gonna be out
there the most of the most experiences of Not Kittles,
it's another guy you brought.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
Up, Kyle Ustchak.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
If Kittle and these guys who didn't practice there at
Kyle Hustjak has the most career receptions from Rock Purty
that'll be playing in this game.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Come on, man, at once.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
Kyle Shanahan is just no different than any other coordinator.
If you bang him up a couple of times running
the ball, get him to the middle of the second quarter,
he can be like, man, we just ain't got it today,
and he goes start chunking it all over the field.
And we may not have the greatest pass for us,
but guys love to rush the pass, so they get
a new attitude when it's time to rush the passing.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
You know, I'm gonna go around really quickly before we
wrap up in these last three minutes or so, we'll
start with Tommy, go to Nick and then and then down.
Tonight Detroit was obviously bad game.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
That's one of those All fifty three just looked like
they didn't have.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
A very good game, this San Francisco game that they're
coming in to.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Who are you identifying as it's like you especially can't repeat.
You need to be big this week, whether it's Ceedee
Lamb or Dak Prescott or Demarvin Overshown. If Eric Hendricks
is out, So who's the guy that you're targeting and
saying that guy if nobody else has to be big
in the game for them.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, I think for me it's Dak Prescott. I think
that you know, you could kind of pair Dak and
CD together. I think that connection needs to be big
for you in this game because Brandon Cooks is still
banged up, and you've just been searching for that and
searching for it and searching for it. Maybe even sometimes
it's felt a little bit forced when they've been searching
for it. So if you're gonna force it, you might
as well find a way to make it connect.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
If that can happen, that's gonna change not just how Dallas'
offense looks in this game, but it's gonna change the
entire outlook.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
For the season.
Speaker 8 (54:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the UH guard position. One
of my favorite players of all time is Zach Martin.
Zach's got to play better. I mean he has to that.
That was one of the worst games I think we've
seen from him, uh help for ever. And that's it's
on Zach Martin, like he's got to play better because
you know you're leaning on be I mean, BB is
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the center, he's the rookie, and Guidon and all that
Steel still kind of coming back, you know, injury and
all that from last year. But you got it. You
can't have it struggles with Zach Martin. He can't do,
you know. So I think with if he goes and
plays his game and comes back, then I think it'll
trickle to the rest.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Of the line.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
Osa all right, Osa has to It has been so
long since he's had that. Because the defense is new.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
He's catching now more than penetrate.
Speaker 6 (55:13):
Osa has to show up and make two or three
plays behind the line of scrimmage versus the run and
get two or three sacks.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
He's got to go beyond what he's ever done.
Speaker 6 (55:23):
If Osa can turn it on, that's gonna eat up
blocks and that may you get my man, he's been
playing pretty consistent Mazi, that.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
May you get him, you know, going even more. But
Osa has to his time. He's he's been invisible most
of the year. It's time for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
I think Mazzi is the guy that for me, I
if I can get New York Giants game Mazie, Yeah,
and the way that.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
He performed in that ball game.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
If I can get that, I feel really good about
your ability to kind of stop what Jordan Mason's doing
and then have to force Rock Perdy to beat you
here in the last minute or so really quickly.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
We'll go down the line again.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Just prediction for the game, even if not a score,
is kind of general outlook for what you expect in
this game on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
Yeah, I think this game has gotten a lot more
interesting than when you looked at it after the Detroit game,
just because of the injuries and things like that. I
think because of Kyle Shanahan's scheme offensively, how well they've
been running the ball, and how poorly Dallas has stopped
the run.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I think the forty nine Ers win a close one.
Speaker 8 (56:15):
You did a boxing reference earlier. Jab First, the Cowboys
are going to have to strike first in this game.
If they strike first, and it'll give them the confidence,
it'll kind of show the forty nine ers. What kind
of where they are in this game?
Speaker 2 (56:26):
It's on the road. We've taking it. Baby oh one.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
I like, hey, hey, you want to come out with
the jab? Nick flea flicker?
Speaker 8 (56:37):
Oh, flee flicker. He knows ety flicker. I would run
a flee flicker once a game. I say it all
the time, once a game. I don't know why it
would be bad that does.
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Here today on the SLBBC Cowboys Crosswalk. Thank you to Tommy, Yours,
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Happy Wednesday, everyone, Welcome to Cowboys Cross Talk. We are
live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.
Thank you for joining us on one five through the
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Speaker 4 (01:10):
I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Tonight, I'm joined by nor Normally I go straight into
Nate Newton. That's not the case tonight because I'm joined
by Tommy Yarish and Nick Eatman from Dallas Cowboys dot
com first timer Tommy Rish on Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Yeah, happy to be here. This is a great crew
that we've got for my first time, so I appreciate
you having me.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, and it's a you get to be part of
a special show because we're joined as always by the
three time Super Bowl champion and six time pro bowler
Nate Newton. But this is a special setup today because
Nate Newton is the focus of our conversation tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
He has slid one.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Chair over to the far right and he is going
to be the focus of our conversation night as our
Cowboys legend.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Nate Newton, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Yes, uh, and this is Nick said, nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Nobody cares. This is your show tonight, Nate niggy.
Speaker 7 (02:02):
Yo.
Speaker 8 (02:03):
Yeah yeah, but this is your show. Remember we talked
about that.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Yeah, thank you for the t in front of the
you know, the beverages, man, and way to come.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right into our show, man, was time perfectly for man.
Thank you, sir oh man. Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So Nate, while you're getting your spot of tea, you know,
I obviously you know we we've had so many different
conversations with you here, yuh, Nate, So I mean, there
there's so many details that we already know about your
your career in.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
The NFL and and the way that you came up.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
But but I mean there's a lot I think that
we haven't touched on and stuff that we can dive
a little deeper into. One of those is just the
fact that it's amazing to take a look at the
coaches you've played for, Yes, sir, in your career, I
mean all the way back to you know, Florida and
m You've got Rudy Hubbard, Joe Gibbs, Steve Spurrier, Jimmy Johnson,
(02:59):
Barry Switzer, Chan Gaily, and George Seffert.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
That's ten Super.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Bowl rings, seven National Championships, five NASCAR Cup Series championship
and Chan Gaily.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Uh sous?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
When you I want to talk first about your time
with Rudy Hubbard, a guy who was just recently in
the last couple of years inducted in the College Football
Hall of Fame and recognized for the accomplishments that he had.
But but I know you talked to us last week
about when you were in high school, you didn't have
like a big drive at that time to be a
great player.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
You liked hitting people.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
You know, you you you.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Enjoyed the physicality of the sport. When you got to
Florida and m and you got to play under Rudy Hubbard,
is that where you started to see not at all.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
I was still a wow man, and we've some of
the things. I was just so out of control. I
didn't get under control until maybe my when I was
in my forties. I've been an out of control guy
all my life, just having fun and living, just living
at the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Sin for life, just for a simple word. And I
enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Like in college, you know, right before a game and
I would give you my free game getting ready.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I took me.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I like brought fifteen hundred dollars worth of damage to
a room before before a football game where men is.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Doing the raffling. We tow the bed up, We told
the tables up.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
About two weeks later, the coach would call me in
and say, man, you just caught from university of fifteen
hundred dollars. Back then, that was a lot of money.
Today that probably would be about three or four thousand
dollars ten of all that stuff in the room.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's that's who I was.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I just I was wow, man, and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's it's so interesting because I know last week you said,
even during your time here in Dallas that it wasn't
even something where like you had developed this session for
the game to say, it was more you didn't want
to let people down. You didn't want to let me
go down. You didn't want to let my down. How
much of that aspect of it? Did you not find
that that family aspect and that that that feeling of
(05:14):
I want to lean I want to be something these
guys can lean on. Did you not find that till Dallas?
Or was that something during the time?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And I found it was in me when I got
to Dallas.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
You know, h everybody coach hubbut did everything is power
bless his art to to help me be a better man.
I didn't want to be a better man. I loved
being At that time they called me big time. I
loved being big time new That's who I was. That
was my focus. I met a guy last night, said, man,
(05:43):
I went to school with you. I was in this
class with you. I said, well, you knew the crazy news.
He said, yeah, I knew the crazy news. I mean so,
but but I got to the Cowboys class.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know, go to class for what? Wow, I
don't know. He said he went the class with you.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
He would you graduated, okay, And I attended the Universal.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
They were in the same zip code on the campus there.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
You go on the sheet on the roster exactly. Yeah,
I had I had a five star ratings, but I
was just doing it a different way.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Who was better at that time? You were a Pam Oliver.
H she was good at what she did. She was
a quarter model. She was good at what she did.
And uh, great young lady, man, great, great young lady.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
But I was the man. I was a big time
new baby. She was just Pam. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
It's something where I saw an interview you did years ago,
I think it was like ten fifteen years ago, where
you had talked about at that time when you were
at Florida and m and I know they interviewed Pam
Oliver's part of that and Pam was like, yeah, at
the time, Nate was just Nate was kind of mean. Yeah,
and you had talked about that, you said back then,
I just I wasn't very much of a nice person,
(06:58):
which is wild that hebody who comes up here to
Cowboys club and gets a chance to talk to you,
and they're just like, oh my gosh, it's.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Jovial Nate Newton.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He's just as big personality and friendly as you'd expect.
What led to that those moments in college where you
felt like you were a little bit gruffer and meaner
and and not that guy that that people felt like
they could just walk up to and approach and talk
to me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
All I knew was that when I left my mom
and dad house, I was gonna be my own man,
and I was just gonna do it how I wanted
to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
They come, hell of high water.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
I was just gonna live how I thought fun was,
and my fun never what was gonna be nick fun.
It never was gonna be your fun time it never.
I mean, if we dranked, I was gonna drink the most.
If we did other things, I was gonna do it
the most. And running trying to run girls even though
(07:55):
girls wouldn't deal with me. I was gonna try to
be the best at that. So I can't tell you
why I was like that. I was raised from a
good home, great mother and father, never wanted for anything.
Things that was in reason they gave to me. The
coaches loved me. I was like, I say, a fire back.
(08:15):
We didn't have five star Either you was good or
you wasn't good. How Georgia wanted me, Arburn wanted me.
Everybody wanted to accept the Black schools, but everybody else
wanted nor to dame until they went to sar My grades.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And then they never came back and talked to me anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
You know, make when when I listened to those coaches
that he reads off the list, I think about you know,
in today's game, sometimes when you see some coaches struggles
because they can't get their players to buy in, right,
look at that list they get guys to buy in.
When you looking back at the coaches that you've had,
what are some of those strategies that stuck out to
you that you know eventually made you say like, hey,
I'm gonna go run through a wall for this guy.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
It was always about the hard work and being out front.
I never played for a coach that wasn't direct. I've
always I've always been fortunate to play for men that
will look you in your eye and say, hey man,
you wrong you this you that let me help you
fix it this way?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Are you not gonna make the team?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Like coach Gibbs call me in is always say, man,
I want you to make this team, but what you
did last night put shit a bad position.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
You know what I'm saying. I'm like, yeah, I'm no coach. Man.
What I'm trying to tell you you can make this team.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Just do the right thing, all right, coach, alright, coach,
But of course I didn't do the right thing, and
of course I didn't make the team.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
One of the things that stands out to me when
you look at that list of coaches, though, that's absolutely wild,
and like we said, we just listened off so many accomplishments.
Dear man, I don't know this for sure. I would
bet if I looked it up, there's not many players
that have played for as many Super Bowl winners as
you have. For instance, I would imagine you're probably high
up on that list. But when you think about you
(09:57):
played for Steve Spurry, or before Steve Spurry with Steve Spurry, right,
he played for Jimmy Johnson when he was college, but
before he'd come into his own at the NFL. The
same thing with Barry Switzer. Somebody coming to the next
level and proving themselves how much What are your thoughts
or your memories about playing for those three and watching
them develop into the type of personas and leaders that
(10:20):
they would become known for.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
One thing they one thing they were good at dealing
with people. Coach Johnson knew just how to It's like
he went and read a by on you. He called
you high school coach or whatever. But he knew just
how to handle you. He knew who he could cuss at,
he knew who he could had to talk Jensel to,
(10:44):
he knew who he had to put in the middle.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I mean, it's just this. This dude was a mastermind.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Now, he had his core beliefs, if you do this,
and you do that, and you do this, you'll make
my team.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
But he handled each guy so.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
Differently, and is the one guy that you could talk
about when he went and hit that ball after a
field goal or pawn or something.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And and Lyon went and ran and hid in the X.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Ray room because he was so fear for that Coach
Johnson was gonna cut him, you know. You know, Coach
Johnson had that look on his page. But when he
when he went in out of Lyon. It was just
so gentle and so kind. Lionn come out man kind
of you know, you know how lion is, and.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And all right, then yeah, I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
But until Coach Johnson went back there, that dude was
hanging out in there in the extray. So but he
knew how to have and I was that guy that
the coaches knew. Sometime he'll talk to me, not to
say something to big E so he'll get all over
me trying to get a point across.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
But he knew Nate, don't care, Nate, don't walk right
out here. Coach, how you doing? Man? What we're gonna do?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
What we gonna eat for lunch today? Because he knew
I was just that guy. You couldn't say too much
to me to hurt my feelings. You couldn't. And I
don't want to say belittle me because he never did that,
but just the criticism that he would come at you sometime.
He knew I was that guy. Whatever how long was it?
(12:17):
I don't want to say what I've to say, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Let's run to our first break. We got Nate Newton
as our Cowboys legend tonight on Cowboys Crosstalk. We're joined
by Nick Eatman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Nicky, Tommy
Yarsh from Dallascowboys dot Com, and Nate as we throw
it to break, Just one thing for you to consider
a question as we throw to break, I'm curious you
talk about how they're reached a point in your career
in Dallas where you said, I don't want to let
(12:43):
these guys down and that's what drives me. And so
I'm curious when was that moment where it clicked for
you and you realized I don't like this feeling of
letting them down and I don't want this to be
an issue anymore. This is my motivating factor. That's next
on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
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Speaker 4 (16:25):
I'm Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Joined by Tommy Yarsh from Dallascowboys dot Com, Nick Eatman
from Dallascowboys dot Com, Nick, and our Cowboys Legendsy Did
you just heard him? I know you thought he must
have been absent. I got two introductions down.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
You didn't hear him.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, it's because he's in the far chair today. It
is the three time Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowler,
hopefully future Hall of Famer, Nate Newton. Nate, thanks for
us sliding over one chair for us to know.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yo, bruh, you go get this right. I'm in the
Hall of Fame. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pro football. I'm
in the Hall of Fame. Baby, I'm a Hall of
Fame player, baby.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yes, no doubt about it. He's a Hall of Fame player.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Now, we just asked you when we're going to break
may you talked about how the drive for you became.
I don't want to let Troy down. I don't want
to let Michael Irvin down, Emmitt Smith down. Was there
a point because you obviously said that developed that way
here in Dallas. You didn't arrive here totally like that.
Was there a point during your time in Dallas where
you had a moment where he said, Man, that feeling
(17:25):
of letting Troy Aikman down or Michael Irvin down hurts
so much more than any sort of other thing that
has pushed me before. And I don't want to feel
that feeling ever again.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
The thing about it, when Jimmy got here, you know,
I talked to Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
I thought, I was like, oh man, I'm finna get cut.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
We was doing these sixteen one teams, and Jimmy shah
because I went to jim asaid, Jimmy, you know, are
you know him to call.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Him coach Johnson.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Coach Johnson, hey man, you might will cut me now
because I'm not gonna make.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
These sixteen one teams.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
He said, tell you what you do. You do whatever
you can, dude. Then you just start running. Don't stop.
Just you're gonna be behind everybody, but just don't stop.
Don't make me have to say something to you. I said, okay, coach,
you know that's the asthma. Remember the asthma.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Guy. Hey.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
I looked at him like, bro, you should have just
kept running. But you know, I just kept running. That
was the first time I said, wow, you know, Jimmy
making a little exception for you know, a guy that
thought he was gonna be cut. Then I would watch
Troy his seriousness.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Of how he worked out. I would watch I watched
Mike Irvan.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
Before Jimmy got his sit on the bench and cry
like a baby because we were losing.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Then I watched.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Emmett, you know, and I talked to him and he
was like, man, this is who I want to be.
And these guys working out, working out, being the best
they can be.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Then we started turning around.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
We started winning and having with me with my antics
always jumping outside and people just looking at me like,
come on.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Man, you know we can we can win this game,
you know, stay on side, you know. And I'm like, wow,
these guys care, I mean.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
And then all of a sudden, I'm like, you know what,
I got to be a little bit better. I gotta,
you know. And I started trying to be better, but
didn't know how. I didn't know how to be a
professional because I never tried in my life to be one.
So I started working out just a little bit more,
start cutting down on the drinking a little bit more,
and then when Charles Haley got here, he said, man,
(19:27):
he came in our locker room and just had our offense.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He just broke down our whole offense.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
What they saw us as forty nine is what they
thought we were in each player. He broke down Troy
all the way down to me, so and he and
then when he did that, you know, my first thing
was to go at him, you know. And you know,
you know, go at him, you know, But I didn't.
And he came up to me said he now, Nate,
(19:53):
what I need for you to do is when I
look at you on film in your first six games,
you are all pro. It's no doubt you should be
an all pro. You should be a pro bowler. He said,
this is how we're gonna do it. You're not gonna
fall out of shape like you do every year. You're
gonna get be in better shaped by the end of
the year.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And he said, I want you to meet me over
here on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. We're gonna work out.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
And I was like, what time and he said, he said,
I want you here back probably about five, So we'll
get out of practice and we'll be back by five
and we'll work out.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
And that's the first time.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
I'm like, wow, and these guys making plays, And all
of a sudden, I started going to Pro Bowls. I
started being All Pro and so and I'm like, and I,
you know, cut down on the all sides. I still
go outside, but cut down on the all sides. And
then you see people like Biggie come in and change
the culture or how we play.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And I sat next.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
To him, and if I didn't have a good game off,
he felt that a lesser player was got the best
of me. I had to hear that, and so it
changed who I was and how men talented of you know,
these guys see a crew. That's why I think these
guys are Hall of famers, because they saw it a
long time ago, whereas it took me a minute.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
You know.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Unfortunately for me, I played twelve years, you know, because.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
This thing could have been over earlier than that.
Speaker 8 (21:19):
You know, when the Cowboys won their first Super Bowl
in the nineties, I mean I was a huge Cowboys fan,
and so it finally got to see a Super Bowl win.
NFL Films put out a video of you know, the year,
you know, the Cowboys. I watched that probably one hundred times.
And one of the things I remember you talk about
becoming a leader. I remember there's a clip from the
Eagles playoff game, you know, in the divisional round, and
(21:42):
you were telling maybe Isaac Hold or Kenny Gant play smart.
Tell those guys on special teams play smart. You can
tell you'd become the leader right then and there, like
like and probably before that, but at that point in time,
like you know, you were the guy that they were saying, hey,
Nate plays Martin. Now you're the one doing that. Yeah,
So it seems like it trickled down from Troy and
Michael and Charles.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like you said, now you were doing that.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
The thing that when you're a championship team, everybody has
their opportunities, and when you have a new guy or
a young guy, you don't want them to trip up.
One thing that Jimmy was ultra good at was getting
raw talent. He could get the raw talent, he had
to hurry up quickly develop it because we were.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Winning at that time.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
So you you your practices were a lot more serious.
And I ain't talking about the hitting them. I'm talking
about just the mental part of it. And so you
had to share you know, like as great as Larry
Allen is, and thank god he wasn't a left guard
at the time. I was not going to deny him.
Hey man, you need to move your feet like this.
(22:48):
Hey bro, if you just wait a minute and punch
like this. We shared, bro, and so with Charles Haley
sharing with Tony Toper said, hey man, I could tell
you it's gonna do this like Charlie's Like, man, I
knew I had you to the inside because how you
set your feet, just always sharing information and it was
just like like we having this conversation. That's how our
conversations would be.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You mentioned younger players and kind of having to get
them up to speed. I think that's a good parallel
with what we're seeing right now in this year's Dallas
Cowboys team. From your experience with those guys in the
locker room back when you were playing, what was it
that got those guys up to speed so fast and
had them contributing at a high level early in their careers.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
The thing that the day's NFL is missing, and a
lot of coaches to try to tell you is the competition,
the true competition. You know it's not there, but you know,
you get locked in. The Sarah cap is a great thing,
I think, but once players become who they are, and
(23:49):
once we as media and fans annaught them, a lot
of times they they save it for the game. And
so when you save it for the game, you know,
you know, you may not practice as hard as you
need to, You may not be as focused as much
as you need to, and that hurts you because now
your technique suffers. And now when you're trying to tell
a guy, see Charles would tell me, hey, man, you
(24:12):
set your feet like this, I jumped inside on you.
Well the next play we were wide open. Well, if
you tell a guy that now he never gets to
work on it. A lot of times you do have
to work in practice, not all the time. Some players
could just do it, like Mark Stepknotzky, he could see
it on film, he could do it. I had to
do it in practice. I had to see it on film,
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write it down and do it in practice. I had
to cover all three steps, visual, physical, and mental. Step
was just mental, you know. So And a lot of
times like I talked to coach Clarity today and I
know he thought I was coming up to try to
tell him and I talked to the strength coach and
I told him both the same thing.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Coach, tell a kid.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
To calm down, just tell him to settle down, right, Yes,
just just ease.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Up, brother, don't overthink this thing.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Let your natural ability because the kid, what we saw
in training camp, the kid got natural feet. But be like, well, okay,
if he got natural feet, how does he keep getting
beat to the inside. Well, the bottom line is he
don't believe in his feet because he's jumping out so soon?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are he kicking out laterally too fast?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
All he got as good as his feet is, he
can almost be a step slow to take away that
natural jump to the inside.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
But for some reason he panicking it. You know, he
got long arms. Maybe it's the strength, the lack of strength,
of the lack of confidence in his strength. But I
don't want to ruin this kid, and so you know,
you don't want to say nothing too bad.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
But like I tell people, sometimes, just just calm down.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Your first round pick.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Let that be to your advantage, not don't let that
be a pressure point that Hey, I'm a first round pick.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm gonna get these reps. They're gonna give me these reps.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
You know, it's just started taking advantage of each rep
that you get.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
And to build off of that. With guy specifically, he's
playing a position he hasn't played a lot in left tackle.
How much harder does that make that learning curve?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
It is great because it don't help when the first
three or four guys you faces top ten talent. Yeah
it you know in this league of zero to sixty
in training camp where you miss, can miss all the
days you want and then go to zero to let
me tell you.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
A quick story. You don't.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
I played football, but I walked up to a guy.
The RAMS was out there practicing. I walked up to
a guy and I heard a guy say, man, I
know this is just practice, but man, once again, we
ain't gonna better stop than run. You know who that was,
NIGGI Yeah, he said, Man, I know, I know it's
just talk. Yeah, but but yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
And so you could see it in those gold line drills,
right YEA, just for pushing them in, pushing.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Them in, and so.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
A lot of times when you have young guys, you
have to work them a little bit. I ain't saying
you have to go every drill every but sometime, especially
when you got.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
A guy a new position.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
You know, we needed Micaeh in practice every day with
some pads on so this kid could get every rep.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm gonna say this, and I'm gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
Today he walked in there for OTAs, y'all, And and
I'm always say this as long as I'm a part
of this group. When you drove the guy in the
first round, you do not have the luxury anymore to wait.
He missed two hundred reps in OTAs, and he missed
one hundred and fifty reps in training camp.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Those are valuable reps that was missed.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
We're gonna take our second break now. Before we do,
I want to again leave you with a quick question. Nate,
you've expressed your own frustration about lack of toughness or
vocal leader ship at times with this current Cowboy squad.
So hearing you describe how guys started leveling up and
Tony Tolbert and Charles Haley and the accountability and stuff
like that. And I think I know the answer to this,
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but we'll still throw it to a break with this.
I want to know do you think that you guys
just had a unique, rare number of competitors and leaders
or do you think leadership is just that contagious when
it's done right? And so we're gonna hear from Danton
on that next on the SWBC Cowboys Cross Talk.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
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Speaker 1 (31:30):
Back back to SWBC Mortgages Dallas Cowboys Crosstalk. Yeah, check
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Speaker 3 (31:41):
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Speaker 4 (31:53):
I'm Bobby Belt from one of five Through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
We've got Tommy Yarish from Dallas Cowboys dot com, Nick
Eatman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
As Nate was just pointing out.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
During the break from DC storyline, Yeah well one of
the most active wildly.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, no, it's absurd the stuff that he can tap into.
I need to have you for Babe Lafenberg's trivia question
each week.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
I gotta have you sitting right there next to me
because I I freeze like deer in the headlights occasionally
on him, and it frustrated.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I was one for two today on the show. Was
a little disappointed. Oh I got Carl Poe as an answer.
I don't know if you remember him, but I didn't
get the last time the Cowboys had a tie It
was the forty nine ers, nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
That was the last time they tied out. Really yeah, geez? Okay,
well you learn something new every day.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
We're joined tonight by Nate Newton, the three time Super
Bowl champion and six time Pro bowler. He is our
Cowboys legend this evening, sliding over one chair and letting
us pick his brain a little bit.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
And former Bully sounds like from from fam you days. Yeah, yeah, man,
straight up man bully. Wait, wait, time out. I don't
know about that. Can I tell the story? Yeah, okay,
I'm gonna tell the story my first training camp covering
the cop year nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yes, sir, Wichita falls, I was.
Speaker 8 (33:09):
I was a lot less cheeseburgers than this, And so
I was at practice and I'm standing like in the
end zone. It's like a gold line drill, all right,
and all of a sudden, here they come like sweep
left em it Chris Warren, who knows who was running?
All of a sudden, here's Nate and I'm like, out
of Nate's way. I'm not, Oh, here it comes, but
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you know, and you ran about fifty yards, didn't hit anyone.
So I'm moving over here and he's about where he
is right now. He decides to shove me because he could.
I didn't hit else, so he just kind of shoved me.
I go flying this way. Maybe I don't think it
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went down, but I probably embraced myself. And that's why,
really like why, because it just felt wrong.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
That far be that fat and run that far hit
Yeah this goofy.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Dude, Yeah you gotta hit somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Now, we mentioned that you said you We said the
Florida A and m Bully a little bit. But you
talked about and we've we've we've painted this already. How
you had this shift when you got to Dallas and
you realize, oh, I'm playing I'm playing for something bigger
than me or my attitude or whatever else I'm playing for,
like the the I don't want to disappoint these guys.
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I don't want to let these guys down and you
listed it seems like you know, you've listed fifteen names
who were leaders for you guys there, and you step
it in and becoming one through that. So the question
I threw at you before the rate because I know
you've been frustrated at times with the lack of vocal
leadership here. You've talked about it on this show. Do
you feel like you guys had just a rare collection
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and number of leaders on your football team or do
you think that, Hey, when leadership is done right from
a few, that's what happens. It spreads and other guys
natural become leaders, and it's contagious, and that's why it's
so critical for a couple of guys to stand up
and be those leaders.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
The forty nine ers left tackle the forty nine ers
two years ago, both linebackers. The forty nine er is
Joey Bosa. Those are leaders not only vocal, but how
they play. It's how you play and what you're willing
to share on that practice field, and when you say,
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what you say is what counts.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
I mean a lot of people chirp.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
I mean we we we every week we hear some
certain guys chirping.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
But we never see that the back you know it's.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
You ever seen a leader that didn't make the Pro Bowl? Ah,
Because I'm talking about like you're sitting here saying like
guys say like I'll do this, I'll do that, or
do that. But if you're a second team, or if you're.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Average, or if you're you're stay in your place.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
That's what I'm saying. So I feel like leadership is
the great play. If you're not a great player, I've
seen a backup running back here, try to be a leader.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
A leader. It don't work. You gotta fight, carries a game. Yeah,
the thing is, but the thing is not.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
You know, I feel so bad for Troy because they
threw Troy to me under the bus because people saw
Troy in the films coming at the offensive line. Troy
maybe did that seven or eight times in two years,
but they found that film where he's going at us.
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Now they expect for Dak in this model theyn there
to do the same thing won't work right now, you.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Are your receiver can't even get on the same page.
You think if you throw.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Him under the bus out in front of one hundred
million people, you think hees you're up in.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Practice the next day. I don't think so. So it
is what it is. You just have to find a way.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
As as the quarterback, offensive play caller, and head coach,
you just have to find a way to make it work.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
I mean, there's nothing else to be said. Fellas.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
If you think that going out eating the steak then'
makes you close. That don't make you close. You have
to have a common goal and that goal has got
to be winning. And that is when I became closer
to my teammates. When my common goal is I'm getting better.
I won't let these guys now, but at the end
of this, I'm gonna win. If that common goal and
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that common thread is not winning, you have a bunch
of bad attitude acting guys.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What can that do? What? Please don't fire me?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
What can mister Jones do once you give them the
bag as these young people call it, tell me what
can you do? You got to rely on the drive,
the enthusiasm to want to Michael Irvin. People never called
Mike Urban selfish. I called him selfish all the time.
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They're like, why you call Mike selfish? Well, I mean
he wanted the ball every time. Every time he was
gonna raise saying if you didn't give it to him.
Emmett was selfish. He wanted the ball and he was like, hey, Mike,
don't sco down there because I want to run the
football in.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I mean they used to laugh about it, but that.
Speaker 6 (38:23):
Selfishness was channeled through team. I know, I gotta have
Nate right. I know I gotta have well he ain't
never had to get big E right. That was always right,
and Larry Allen was always right. But you had certain
guys you had to do checkboxes on and I was
one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
So that is get what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
But if a guy don't care, Jimmy was able because
we had no Sarah cap. When he saw a guy
didn't care, especially if we had no ability that he
could try to forge and work, they were gone. Bro,
you can't do that. You can't just get rid of
the offense linement. They are so rare, A decent just
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a just a guy that's just a notch but low average.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
They are so rare, So you got to keep everybody
you can.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Nick, I know you were talking about something during the
break that you want to you want to touch on.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
Yeah, you know it feels like, you know, we've heard
DAK talk about practice and and how they're struggling there.
And I've heard from coaches and players over the years.
You can win and lose games in the middle of
the week, you know, by by your preparation.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
People say you can check out. You don't check out
on Sundays, but you might check out during the week.
And I'm not saying this team is doing that. But
but how do they you said practice is different, how
do they become a better practicing team with based off
the rules of regulations they have here?
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Speed?
Speaker 8 (39:48):
Speed?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
One thing I would say that Troy was spot.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
On, uh was with his criticism we had the other
day when he said what he said, Michael Irwin, Alvin Harper,
Kevin Martin, what was our little guy from South Dallas
came from.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
The park returning mind Kevin waves.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
One thing they were not allowed to do because if
you do it once or twice, it is too many
times you had to come off the ball running.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You can have your offensive.
Speaker 6 (40:23):
Line job, you can have your defensive ends job, but
in no way in the world can you ever ever
have your wide receivers not running wide open because you
are distorting the next man route. When you are so
selfish that you cannot get off the ball when you
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know you got a deep post so that my man
Fergie can come underneath and catch that ball for a
first down.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That is selfish.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
That is wrong, and it ain't gonna never be right.
In my eyesight, Troy had that spot on. You can't
have a body language where you you're getting ready to
run a smam. You sitting there and you'll say, it's
just stuttering. Man, take off, drive through. That guy inside
showed his slant so we can get this guy over
the top because it's gonna bring the safety in the
line back of down there on you. So now we
got Cooks on the other bus streaking down the field.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Come on, man, thats that That was right? That was right.
I don't know if I can follow that up.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Yeah, you know, let's let's jump to our our last
break a little bit early, because I know we want
to get into some of this forty nine ers stuff
and and and set that up there and get some
more Innate's thoughts, because like I said, I think I
think everybody just needs to marinate on what Nate just
said for the next.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Couple of minutes.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
So so when we.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Come back on the SLWBC Cowboys Crosstalk, we will preview
this forty nine Ers game a little bit, get into
some of these injuries. These are two very depleted teams,
it feels like right now, but a critical point for
both of these teams as they enter week eight. That's
next on the SLWBC Cowboys Crosstalk.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
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Dallascowboys dot Com and our Cowboys Legends. Evening is the
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three time Super Bowl champion and six time.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Pro Bowler Nate Newton.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Nate, this is a a very big game they have
coming up with forty nine ers this weekend. It's one
where there's been a lot of bitterness for this Cowboys
team in recent years. I looked something up though the
day I believe it was when I looked it up
this scorning. I think nine of the players that started
in the last playoff game that Dallas in San Francisco
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played a year and a half ago, whatever it was,
nine of the twenty two starters are still on the team,
which means most of them are gone and or won't
be available because of a Michael Parson's injury or DeMarcus
Arns or whatever else. Heading into a game like this
where in past years they've tried the angle of man,
we want the juice of revenge and guys who remember.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
What this feels like.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Is there a little bit of a benefit potentially to
walk into this game with youthful ignorance, Guys who say,
I don't have an idea of what this team's done
to us, and I don't view them as this big,
bad wolf.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
They're just another team across from us.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Yes, I would say that would be positive if you
were say maybe five and one and and you have
been winning tough games because the forty nine Ers game.
We have a lot of people out. They have a
It's still gonna be a physical, tough game. We have
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not proven yet as of to date, when we play
equal or better talent, that we can overtake this talent.
And I know that Guidan is not to play it
against them, but even open his eyes, he can Fini
to go into another tough game. I know that Cooper
hasn't played against him, but he's finna get out. These
guys are still a very good team. They got eight turnovers,
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eighteen sacks. I mean, their defense is still there now.
They giving up points, but that's what we're suffering in
the red zone. So even if we drive the ball
down there, we still got to come overcome our mental
lack of whatever while we can't get into red zone.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Nick, I'm curious for your thought on this when you
look at even with all the players that the forty
nine ers may be missing. We were talking before the
show here with Kittle missing practice, Steve Ball, all these
different guys that are rock perty may be missing eighty
five percent of his career completions in this game. Even
with all those guys missing, do you think this can
(47:50):
be a bigger psychological boost for the Cowboys winning this
game than any other game that's on the schedule.
Speaker 8 (47:55):
Without a doubt, it could be because you know, they
need I don't think if the end of the day
and nobody cares about that, because nobody cared, you know,
Detroit didn't care that they beat a you know, Micah
Parsons last team and all that stuff. They didn't care
about all that. You know, I think I think it
will be a huge boost.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I know you're talking.
Speaker 8 (48:12):
About players that are different. I go back to nineteen
ninety one. Okay, Eagles nineteen ninety one, and you're probably
thinking immediately, oh, they lost twenty four to nothing, gave
up eleven sacks early in the season at home. But
the end of the year they came back and won
that game. And that was a huge hurdle mentally because
the Eagles were the big, bad bully.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Get over that.
Speaker 8 (48:34):
Home they got They made it to the playoffs by
beating Philly that day in a huge turnaround from earlier
in the season to that, which has kind of what
we're talking about here. Got beat forty two to ten
last year. Can you turn it around? It's been a year.
But I think it would be a huge boost for
a lot of reasons, especially because they are that big,
bad bully right now and everyone knows it. And even
if you were here or not, you see you watch
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the Cowboys losing to the forty nine ers in the playoffs,
So I think it would be a huge boost.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
You've been in the locker on Monday and Wednesday when
we've had some availability and gotten a chance to talk
to guys like Eric hendricks Into, Marvin overshowing him, Micah
Parsons and guys who I mean are up in the
air in terms of their availability. But what's your sense
of the tone and the tenor from this Cowboys team
right now? Because I'll be honest, I thought Mike McCarthy
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coming out on Monday was great because I feel like
for a head coach who at times I think can
get on his heels a little bit in that press situation,
he didn't. He came right out and said, Yeah, we
got to work on the by this is what's wrong.
This is what we're gonna do to fix it, and
we're gonna have success with it. And we're doubling down,
we're drilling down, and we're gonna have it. Are you
seeing that that sort of focus, that mental focus in
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that drive mirrored in the locker room this week.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Yeah, I am, And I think the interesting point where
you saw that was Eric Kendricks today because you think
back to March when Eric Kendricks was basically a San
Francisco forty nine or except the ink was and try
four days later he becomes a Dallas cowboy and joins
up again with Mike Zimmer.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
So the coach speak.
Speaker 5 (49:59):
Answered the media answer that you're getting here is this
is just another game and those kinds of things. But
when you've lost the last three, you haven't won on
the road against San Francisco since twenty seventeen, you know,
in the player's hearts of hearts and Mike McCarthy's hearts
of hearts, it just means a little bit more, And
it especially means a little bit more when you go
into this game three and three and you need a
win like this to kind of turn the tide on
what you've seen.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
So far this season.
Speaker 5 (50:21):
So, like Nick said, nobody's gonna feel sorry that San
Francisco is injured. Nobody's felt sorry so far the Dallas
has been injured. This is an opportunity for Dallas to
go on the road pick up a statement win against
a team that they have struggled against in years past,
and you know, kind of not that they've gone off track,
I don't think this season, but they certainly haven't started
how they've wanted to.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right, the chance to go four and oh on the
road is.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
A really good opportunity and it could bode well for
this team going forward because you think about the success
that Mike McCarthy has had after the bye during his
time in Dallas to finish out the regular season. The
Cowboys are twenty five and thirteen the last four years
after the bye.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
To finish it up, Nick, what was Mike Tyson's best punch?
I mean them?
Speaker 8 (51:02):
I mean, yeah, yeah, the one that connected usually the
first one. Yeah, because there wasn't a second one. I
don't know, I mean, but.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
He had a nice right, He had a nice right
overhand right now. But see, this is not this is
what hurts. This is when I when I'm talking about
a mental thing. When I'm talking about a mental thing.
You named all those whide receivers missing, but they're still
able to must up over one hundred and some yards rushing.
Speaker 8 (51:31):
Second in rushing right.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Mason j Mason.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Jordan Mason, the NFL Pro had the stat this week
nobody has broken more tackles in the NFL this season
than Jordan Mason.
Speaker 6 (51:41):
And so that is still yeah, that is if see
I believe in overdoing things pretty missing all those wide receivers.
Kittles is banged up and he will be on the
end of the line. He don't do a lot of
whole lot of lot of stuff. So you put him
he's at end of the line. I'm gonna put hands
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on him every time. He's gonna battle to get off
that off that offensive line, and I'm putting twelve guys
up there on the line of scrimmage. I'm gonna make
Brock pretty beat me. He holds the ball three point
two seconds, I'm gonna make him beat me with these backups. Now,
are we willing to do that? Is Mike Zimmer willing
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to do that?
Speaker 4 (52:25):
Would you?
Speaker 6 (52:25):
Because if he's not, we're gonna we will face the
same thing we faced.
Speaker 4 (52:30):
Would you?
Speaker 3 (52:31):
Basically say, hey, stack box for Jordan Mason. We're going
eight defenders in the box, and Brocker is gonna have
to beat me.
Speaker 6 (52:37):
He's gonna have to with these backups that you're you
just said it. Who's the guy that's gonna be out
there the most of the most experiences of Not Kittles,
it's another guy you brought.
Speaker 4 (52:46):
Up, Kyle Ustchak.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
If Kittle and these guys who didn't practice there at
Kyle Hustjak has the most career receptions from Rock Purty
that'll be playing in this game.
Speaker 2 (52:54):
Come on, man, at once.
Speaker 6 (52:58):
Kyle Shanahan is just no different than any other coordinator.
If you bang him up a couple of times running
the ball, get him to the middle of the second quarter,
he can be like, man, we just ain't got it today,
and he goes start chunking it all over the field.
And we may not have the greatest pass for us,
but guys love to rush the pass, so they get
a new attitude when it's time to rush the passing.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
You know, I'm gonna go around really quickly before we
wrap up in these last three minutes or so, we'll
start with Tommy, go to Nick and then and then down.
Tonight Detroit was obviously bad game.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
That's one of those All fifty three just looked like
they didn't have.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
A very good game, this San Francisco game that they're
coming in to.
Speaker 3 (53:42):
Who are you identifying as it's like you especially can't repeat.
You need to be big this week, whether it's Ceedee
Lamb or Dak Prescott or Demarvin Overshown. If Eric Hendricks
is out, So who's the guy that you're targeting and
saying that guy if nobody else has to be big
in the game for them.
Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, I think for me it's Dak Prescott. I think
that you know, you could kind of pair Dak and
CD together. I think that connection needs to be big
for you in this game because Brandon Cooks is still
banged up, and you've just been searching for that and
searching for it and searching for it. Maybe even sometimes
it's felt a little bit forced when they've been searching
for it. So if you're gonna force it, you might
as well find a way to make it connect.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
Right.
Speaker 5 (54:20):
If that can happen, that's gonna change not just how Dallas'
offense looks in this game, but it's gonna change the
entire outlook.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
For the season.
Speaker 8 (54:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the UH guard position. One
of my favorite players of all time is Zach Martin.
Zach's got to play better. I mean he has to that.
That was one of the worst games I think we've
seen from him, uh help for ever. And that's it's
on Zach Martin, like he's got to play better because
you know you're leaning on be I mean, BB is
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the center, he's the rookie, and Guidon and all that
Steel still kind of coming back, you know, injury and
all that from last year. But you got it. You
can't have it struggles with Zach Martin. He can't do,
you know. So I think with if he goes and
plays his game and comes back, then I think it'll
trickle to the rest.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
Of the line.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
Osa all right, Osa has to It has been so
long since he's had that. Because the defense is new.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
He's catching now more than penetrate.
Speaker 6 (55:13):
Osa has to show up and make two or three
plays behind the line of scrimmage versus the run and
get two or three sacks.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
He's got to go beyond what he's ever done.
Speaker 6 (55:23):
If Osa can turn it on, that's gonna eat up
blocks and that may you get my man, he's been
playing pretty consistent Mazi, that.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
May you get him, you know, going even more. But
Osa has to his time. He's he's been invisible most
of the year. It's time for Yeah.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
I think Mazzi is the guy that for me, I
if I can get New York Giants game Mazie, Yeah,
and the way that.
Speaker 4 (55:45):
He performed in that ball game.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
If I can get that, I feel really good about
your ability to kind of stop what Jordan Mason's doing
and then have to force Rock Perdy to beat you
here in the last minute or so really quickly.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
We'll go down the line again.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
Just prediction for the game, even if not a score,
is kind of general outlook for what you expect in
this game on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
Yeah, I think this game has gotten a lot more
interesting than when you looked at it after the Detroit game,
just because of the injuries and things like that. I
think because of Kyle Shanahan's scheme offensively, how well they've
been running the ball, and how poorly Dallas has stopped
the run.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
I think the forty nine Ers win a close one.
Speaker 8 (56:15):
You did a boxing reference earlier. Jab First, the Cowboys
are going to have to strike first in this game.
If they strike first, and it'll give them the confidence,
it'll kind of show the forty nine ers. What kind
of where they are in this game?
Speaker 2 (56:26):
It's on the road. We've taking it. Baby oh one.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
I like, hey, hey, you want to come out with
the jab? Nick flea flicker?
Speaker 8 (56:37):
Oh, flee flicker. He knows ety flicker. I would run
a flee flicker once a game. I say it all
the time, once a game. I don't know why it
would be bad that does.
Speaker 3 (56:44):
Here today on the SLBBC Cowboys Crosswalk. Thank you to Tommy, Yours,
Nicki min and our special guest night Nate Noton.
Speaker 4 (56:50):
Will talk to you guys again next Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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