September 1, 2025 • 57 mins
DeMarvion Overshown joins Brad Sham and Nicole Hutchison on the Miller Lite Cowboys Hour presented by Albertsons and Tom Thumb on 105.3 The Fan
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Here now delighted.
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To be back.
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We are very happy to have all of you listening
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it's normally difficult to get a player. In fact, I
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try not to.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Do it.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
For a show like this on a Thursday night. And
you say, but it's not Thursday night, it's Monday night. Ah,
only to you to the football team, it's Thursday because
Thursday is Sunday this week and they travel on Wednesday
in there, so they're winding down.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
But we're we are thrilled to have the opportunity to
do it.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
So then I said, who is the biggest name player
we can get for our easy year, mister Q, just
wait for it. Who's the biggest name player, the biggest
fan favorite that we can get to start the year.
We like to start the year with a bang.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
So I am.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I am very sad that we are able to have
this man tonight because we all want to watch him
play and that will be coming soon enough. But in
the meantime, what a joy to have demarve On overshowing
here with us to start the year. Dro Thank you,
thank you, Now.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Come on very very again.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
All right there, you're a little more coaching, but it's
the first game of the year. We'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We are.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We are just so high happy to have you here.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Thank you for taking part of your Monday, Thursday, whatever
the hell day it is to you, guys.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Show show.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
How do you feel?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
That's what everybody wants to know. How you doing?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Oh? No, First of all, thank y'all for having me.
You know, I know last year I was on here
and I said, whenever y'all wanted me back, you know,
let me know and I'll come. So I appreciate y'all
having me back. But you know, to answer your question,
I feel great. I feel good. I don't know if
y'all have been seeing any videos of me moving around
me and Rev moving around with Brett. But uh, you know,
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like I say all the time, if it was up
to me, i'd be out there with with my feelas.
But you know, it's one of those things where it's time.
It's time with it. But if you ask me, look,
I could be out on the field right now.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
What's the rehab process been like for you over these
last what eight months?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
It's been chill. You know, I got a strong support
system around me, and you know, sadly but also a
good thing. I've been through this before, so you know,
I kind of know where where all my my milestones
and my checkmarks, what I need to feel like when
I need to feel like. So it's been easy. I
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haven't been stressed for at all, and I think that's
been the key thing. You know, I haven't been stressed,
so it's easy for me to grow up there, get
some good work in with brick, come home, be a dad,
be a fiance, and you know, get back up, smile
and do it again the next day.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Do you ever not yet up smiling?
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Look?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Do you ever have?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, you're I love Everybody loves this about you.
Your attitude is infectious.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Look I'm not gonna say every day I just get up,
you know, smiling, but I know every day I find
a reason to smile. And you know that's that's one
of the main things to get through, you know, life
in general. Like you gotta find joy in everything you do,
and I find joy in waking up and you know,
challenging myself every day to get this neeed back to
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top shape. So you know you do that, you smile
like you say it's in fakes. You is one person smile.
Now to you make somebody else smile, that's two people.
And you know the next thing, you know is just
positive energy everywhere.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
You know You're but you're You're more than just. I
was gonna do this later, but this is where.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
We are right now. We'll circle back you.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
What did Taylor Swift say about Travis Culsey. He's a
human exclamation point, which is true. You then, are a
human exclamation point in all caps.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
You are.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And I don't know how someone can be in a
workplace with you or a social setting or business setting
and see how you are and how you approach things
and not feel good. I don't know how someone can
be around you and say, well, okay, then you know,
I think maybe I can improve my attitude a little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Have you always been like that?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
I think for as long as I can remember, I've
always been like this. You know. I actually grew up
in the church and it's this, It's called this little
light of mind. I'm gonna I'm gonna shine and shine
and so like all my life, you know, I've always
been like, you know, I'm gonna shine my life bright.
You know it might just you know, biting somebody else's life.
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It's not as bright as mind. So you know, do you.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Notice that guys kind of follow you and and are
are drawn to you, that you are somewhat magnetic with
that personality?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Did you know that? I think I can feel it
at times. I think I definitely do my best to
you know, make me feel approachable, make me, you know,
feel like I'm doing the right thing. That guys can
look at me and say, Okay, Demo's doing the right
I'm gonna follow Demo. So you know, that's one thing
growing up I've always inspired to to be that the leader,
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that frontman in the line going to battle, and guys
can look at me and say, look, I want to
go to the world of demos. So you know, it's
definitely I don't take it for granted being in that position.
A lot of people say, you know that they just
puts extra pressure on you, but I always say, you know,
pressure is a good thing. You strive to be something
in your life and you know the pressure comes with it.
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So I'm excited. I love the fact that you know,
I'm able to call myself a leader.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Let's go back to your knee just for a second,
because you said that one thing that gets you through
this is that you've been through this before.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And my question is, have you really?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Because there's nothing inside what holds your knee together that
you didn't tear or.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Break right right, you haven't been through that before?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
You I haven't. I haven't. But you know, to say
I haven't been through things tougher than this would would
be an understatement because you know, I know I got
the best doctors, the best medical staff, everything I got
going into my knee, But you know, other situations growing up,
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I didn't have the best you know, growing up situations.
So I've always felt like, you know, I got a
over that anything that I face in life is obtainable.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
What have you learned about yourself mentally.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Throughout all this? Uh? Just how how resilient I am,
And you know how each how each battle, you know,
I come back stronger. You know I find a different
challenge each day to attack, and you know I always
challenge myself to do it while smiling too. You know,
I know it's gonna be hard days. I know it's
gonna be days where I'm tired. You know, the last
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couple of days, you know, it's been hot outside, so uh,
you know, I've been tired, but I've always you know,
wanted to do it with a smile. And so that's
one thing that I found out and myself that you know,
I'm stronger than what I thought.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
You also talked about, you know, you said milestones for
yourself throughout you know, all of it. What were some
of those milestones that you did kind of set for
yourself and what they look like.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I know, just coming back from California. I think I
came back like maybe three days after my surgery, and
at that point, I was tired of getting driven around
by my fiance in California. So I told myself as
soon as I got home, like, I don't care how
I'm feeling, I'm driving my truck. I don't care how
I'm feeling I'm driving my truck. I don't I don't
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think the training staff would be okay with me jumping
into my truck. You know how tall my truck is.
I'm jumping in there with two braces on. And did
you tell them? I didn't. I told them towards the
end when I got off crutches.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
By the way, just y'all know I've been driving my
truck for about.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
And so at that point it was too late for
them to tell me to stop. So it was just
things like that, like just getting up and challenging myself
to do things like that, like, look, I know if
I can get to the point of driving my own truck, like,
that's one thing I can do by myself already.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
But and.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
To me, this attitude that you have surrounding this injury,
which is just very much part of who you are,
coming on the heels of what cost you your entire
roop season in pre season that had to be beyond disappointing.
You're playing so well, you're playing like an all pro,
a real difference maker, and now then this happens.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
And you've already lived through it once.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And is it as simple as faith that gets you
lifted up enough to just keep coming back from all off?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
It's as simple as having faith. I know, I know
my plan, and I know what I've done to get here,
and like I said, my light to shine, it wasn't
done yet. And I feel like on the football field
is when my light is that it's brighter. So just
being able to continue be a testimony every day, you know,
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getting back, getting another opportunity just to get up and
walk off the field. I knew right then, like I
was gonna be okay. The fact that I didn't get
carted off the field, the fact that you know, I
got in there, done the MRIs showered myself, took all
my like I've done all that myself. So just on
that little bit, you know, made me realize I'm gonna
be okay, Like I'm gonna be able to sleep tonight.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And how have you changed if you have the timeline
for getting back? I've heard it said Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think I've read or heard that you said, yeah,
maybe before that. Well we'll see. What.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
How have you like challenged the timeline that the medical
people gave you.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Oh yeah, for sure. I mean I know as soon
as I was walking off the field, actually asked Britt Brown, like,
all right, what I gotta do to get back? Like
how long it's gonna take. I need to know right now,
Like I gotta challenge myself to beat that.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
As you're walking off the field.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
From as I'm walking off the say, I can't tell
you now, I would have got to do an MRI.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
He was like, look, I can't, I can't tell you
exactly right now, but you know it's it's serious. So
I was like, look, I just need to know a number.
You tell me a number, and you know, I'm gonna
challenge my stuff. And he's like, you're looking at ten
to twelve. And I took that and I was like,
all right, I be done. I'll be ready in eight.
And I've been going and you know, during my research,
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I tell people all the time that I got that
that East Texas blood in me. So you know, Adrian
Peterson after he tore multiple ligaments in his leg, his
MVP offensive you know, player to your season was the
following year. So you know, I always said that I
was gonna be okay whenever my time came to get
on the field.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I know, if we don't have one hundred percent validation
that Peterson is actually human because he I mean, he.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
May be a cyborg.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Maybe he may be and you be. And that's what
I'm saying, like, when you get on the field, people
are gonna think that when they see me moving faster,
smoother than I was last year. So I'm excited to
showcase that. I know. I know a lot of people
have expressed to me that they excited to get me
back on the field. But the feelings is definitely mutual.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
All right, Well, if you didn't no already why people
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We are at Sidecar Social in the Star District. I'm
Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson. Our very special guests to
start the season. Who could be better than the sunshine
of this entire football team, Demarveon Overshown. And this is
the first time in my memory that certainly we've started
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the year, but maybe.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
At any point that we had a whole.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Table full of people wearing shirts with your name and
nickname and image of it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
So that's good. I'm very impressed.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Matt Eberflus, the new defensive coordinator, talked a lot. Brian
Schottenheimer's talked a lot about how during OTAs and then
especially out in camp, you were not rehabbing inside you weren't.
You were like in Eberflus's hip pocket and like learning
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his cadence right and what the everything was.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
So tell me about that. That was an interesting thing
to observe. How'd that come about you?
Speaker 6 (17:45):
No, it was I definitely take that experience, and not
just from the football side of it, but I think
it was another way for me and Fluce to build
our relationship without me being on the field.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
So basically I look at, you know, how Shoddy and
Dak relationship and it's basically, you have Shody on the
field that's quarterback with Dak because he's so smart, and
I feel like, you know, on the defensive side, that's
kind of where I wanted to take my game. I
felt like my physical abilities was there. But last year,
if you know, maybe I'm looking at the right things,
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or I seen something in film study a little quicker,
or if I just seen it out of flucemine a
little quicker, like I'm making, you know, more plays. So
that was one of the things I wanted to challenge
myself at as being mentally over prepared for a game
where I can call out players before they even happen.
I know, in the breakfast club we call it basically
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the guys, it's not in special teams. Go meet with
the coordinators and your coaches and just get some behind
the scenes on who we scouting that week. And me
and him talked about Sean Lee constantly, and I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Do you know I met him?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Ye, I haven't met him, but last year we exchanged
texts during my first injury and he was a guy
that was able to have some some dimes on me.
So I told him, I want to be at the
level where I'm You're on the field, through the through
the headset.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'll text him when we get done. I will text
him and say, get down here. I know you're living
in Matacito or on a boat.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Or some damn things.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Nice, uh, I get down here and spend some time
with overshowing because he's your kind of guy.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
So do you feel now like you have a handle
on what Flush is doing?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I do?
Speaker 9 (19:27):
I do.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I feel like as soon as I step on the field,
you know, it's not gonna not gonna be no catching up.
It's gonna be me as soon as I get out there,
just clicking on with everybody. And I think that's been
another reason why I've been attached to him, because I
don't want to be off, you know, just doing treatment
and then not not getting the football side of things
since I can't physically get the reps. So uh, being mentally,
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like I said, over prepared for when I come back,
and Uh, all I have to do is put the
physical to it at that point, and I know I'll
be good in that department.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Now, you said, Sharanlie drops some domes on you. What
has Matt Eberflus dropped on you? In terms of you
learning something out of Eba Flues that you haven't learned
from any other defensive coordinator. Considering he is a linebackers.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Coach, he is he is, Uh, And that's one thing
I can say, I said, out of all my coordinators,
I feel like he's been the most hand on, hands
on with me, especially you know, developing into a linebacker
starting off as a safety. So uh, just some of
those you know, just you know, being interchangeable with your
with your D line, like you know, if they eat,
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I eat, If I eat, they eat. So if you
get to working with your D line, like that's that's
how you make plays. And I feel like, you know,
when you see it on tape and you just see
the guys in the linebacker room doing it right now,
you know it makes sense. So I'm actually excited to
see them flying around Thursday.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
How often is Ebraflus in the linebackers meeting?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
So he's he's in our meetings, like he yeah, until
until it's over heat, he's with us. So I think
a lot of position groups like the fact that he's
with the line I think hook hooked and made that
clear like when he had him in Indy. It's like, look,
you you you're gonna love him as a person, but
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as a coach, you know, he gonna get after you.
And I feel like as the linebackers, we take full
We we love that, you know, we want to be
not only the alphas of the defensive side of the ball,
but the whole team in general. So just having fluenced
in that, being able to coach us up on everything,
making sure we're dialed in.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
So I had a little bit of this conversation with
osa in in camp. Uh even though two years ago
you only played in the preseason, just out very quickly,
but you were you were with Dan Quinn all the
way through off season and camp and all of that.
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And then last year was Mike Zimmer. So here you
are in your third year trying to finish, you know,
a year. But you it's not just three different coordinators.
Those three guys had three different systems from each other.
There's people don't understand how little similarity the approach is.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
How is that not difficult?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
I think, you know, one one reason I actually had
three coordinators in college. But no, I say, just so
it ain't new for me. But I just say for
players in general, it's just like it's one thing I
think people notice, like our physical physical abilities, but you know,
you got to take what you do in the classroom
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and put that on the field. So you got to
be a student of the game. And I feel like
a lot of us are really good at you know,
kind of veering off into something easily, like being able
to see something and just react to it. So and
the way that the Fluse coach, it's more of a
he's teaching to us. He's not just coaching, he's teaching
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us the materials. So once you get a grasp of
what he's teaching, everything is the same, and I think
you're able to play faster without thinking.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
The elephant in the room, of course, would be every
defensive player wants to play with a player like Micah Parsons.
I mean, he's one of the greatest players of the decade,
and you did and now you're not.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And that's just kind of the way the business goes.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
How do those of you, I'm just going to act
like you're playing right now because I feel like you are.
How have you all addressed that to say, hey, we
will be fine, we or you know, we have to
do this without him, or we just have to be
who we are. Other guys are going to get opportunities now,
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Sam and easier, they're going to get some big time opportunities.
But when you lose a player like that, it's a
little bit of a surprise, a little emotional. How did
y'all handle that and how do you handle the prospects
going forward?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I would say, yeah, it's definitely hard losing a guy
like Micah, not just as a teammate, but a lot
of people don't see like the brotherhood we build, you
know that's not shown on TV in three hundred and
sixty five days or you know the guy that's six
sixth next to me to me and meetings, it's like
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it's it's deeper than football. So you know, from a
player in the locker room aspect, like we all understand
the business like look both sides. You know they wanted
for themselves and I think you know, the only losers
out of it is you know, his brothers. Like as
far as teammates, we understand like his business, but you know,
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you can't replace a brother or a friend that you
see every day with you, you interact with every day.
But I always look at it as like you can't
take nothing negative out of this situation. I mean, this
man has set up his family for generations. He I say,
the tears that him and his mom shed, Uh was
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staying the shirts that they're wearing because they'll never forget them.
And when you're able to do that as a young man, Uh,
your your kids would be taken care of, your your
whole family be taken care of. You got to do
something for yourself, you know you you celebrate things like that.
So I feel like the locker room, I think, Oh
said it best. It's it's tough at a time like
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this to really dwell on it, because like you want
to be sad. But at the same time, we played
football Thursday, and uh, this is time that you know
us as teammates and and the fan base should uplifting
Kenny Clark because his he he changed. I believe he
He told me he was taking his daughter to get
ice cream when he found out he was coming to Dallas.
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So uh, I think we we addressed something that wanted
that needed to be addressed with a great player, a
guy that that wants to win. Since he stepped in
the building. I think our first text when I found
out he was getting traded, Uh, he sent me like,
let's get this ship. Let's let's win this ship. And
you need that in the building to win. I feel
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like all the girls, I mean all the guys have
have flocked to them and we were gonna do some
things this ship.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And I'm sure do you find that, guys said, I
don't know whether you set it out loud or you
could feel it that. Okay, well, when the first wave
of surprise passed, okay, well now people say, well they
can't do it, they're no good without Parsons, and the
rest of you say.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Well, well hold on minute, now, we didn't just fall
off a turnip truck. We we think we can do something.
Did you do you find some of that going on?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, look, Micah is one of
one generational talent. But when you look across all all
rosters in the NFL, is talent and when you when
you got coaches that that's invest in and developed that talent,
like you know, those things like that can can be
made up. And so, uh no, you can't replace Micah
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Michaeh Parson the player. Can you replace some of the
things that he do do? Yes? And I feel like
that's where we're at with it. You know, it's it's
the next guy up. It's uh you know, it's a
reason why everybody is gonna be wearing that star that
that plays on Thursday. And you know, they got a
job to do. We got a job to do, and
uh We're gonna do that.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
You talk about talent in the NFL, I mean you
still have talent on this defensive line. Donovan Azeraku. I mean,
and what Aaron why Cotton has done with him. Dante
Fowler coming off the season he had in Washington, Sam Williams,
I mean that defensive line room, defensive in room is
gonna be special. But I mean how special do you
feel like that group can be.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I feel like that group is is gonna turn a
lot of heads this Thursday. Early on in the season,
it's been one of the most dominant groups throughout camp.
I feel like that was enough for them to say
to believe, like, look, we got the guys that you
know we can go to battle and we can win with.
So you know, I guess that made them comfortable enough
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to be able to move something like that by seeing
the pieces that we already you know we got in
the defensive end room, and I see how how hard
those guys work, and best believe, you know, they got
a chip on their shoulder too, and you know they're
gonna do what we gotta do to win.
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Speaker 5 (31:56):
And I've heard, yes, please, that's right, act like you
like him. And so I have heard some people who
have seen.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
You play and maybe think they know a little something
about the way Fluce likes to attack, say, could could
Demo be like a pass rusher like Micah? Because what
some people don't remember is that he Michaeh was not
an edge rusher.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
At Penn State.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
He was a phenomenal linebacker. Doesn't mean he didn't rush
the passer, but he came from everywhere. He covered the
entire field and it was only when DeMarcus Lawrence got
hurt in on Wednesday of week two that dan Quinn said, Hey, Micah,
what do you think about playing end and rushing to passer?
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And that's what that's how he became what he turned into.
So in Flus's system as best as you can explain
it to a bunch of people who don't play, I mean,
is there a way for you to have the impact
that you have going sideline to sideline and also penetrate
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and rush the passer.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Uh, it's definitely, you know, some stuff dialed up and
Flu's playbook for me to spin down and do stuff
like that. And you know that's something that you know,
I wish I would have started doing on earlier on
last year, but I've been capable of doing like that.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Wasn't Jim's game though, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Not really not until he actually seen that I can
blitz and then kind of like when Michael went out,
you know, all of his blitzets became my blitzer. So
I feel like, you know, a FLU system was more
of a you know, we we we go off the point,
or we we see something and we gained plan that
it really wasn't a certain player had this responsibility. So
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the way he's able to mix it up as far
as like the packages and things like that, you might
see me, you know, spin down on the line, sometimes
spin off the ball. So I would definitely say that
you see me rush the passer a lot when I
come back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It's such a good point that you make that because
I mentioned you're playing for your third coordinator, and as
you pointed out, you had three hit Texas. I didn't
realize that what would it be like to have the
same coordinator two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I wonder.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Look, I'm actually I grew the most when I had
the same coordinator twice, so you know, it's always fun
to learn new stuff and learn get new tricks up
your up your sleeves. But being able to use those
same tricks for a couple of years, I know I
could really dominate. So I'm hoping this this be the
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jack spot. The jackpot I mean with Flews, I feel
like he's built something special on the defensive side of
the ball. I love the way he coached. He's a
coach that you know, believes in the same thing I
believe in and that's running and hidding. That's that's eighty
percent of the defense right there, just being able to
run it won't to run and hit. And he believes
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in that, so I'm hoping he'd stick around for the
long ride.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And by the way, people don't really know much about
a lot of assistant coaches, but technically he's the coordinator.
Dave Bargonzi is the linebackers coach, and he was here
before when Matt was the linebacker's coach, and Gonzo has
also grown as a coach through the years. But what
I was going to say was or ask you about,
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was you know, you talk about having three different coordinators.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So you've got to learn three systems, but they've got
to learn you.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Like you were talking about, Zimmer didn't really realize what
you had in your bag until he saw you for
a while. So do you think that just from watching
tape that these guys kind of have a handle on you.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
I think they've been doing it for a while. I
think you can watch a little tape and get a
good feel of how somebody really is, but until you
actually having those interactions with them, coaching them up, seeing
it realize speed or real life and practice like, Okay,
why did he do this in a game? Like why
is he doing this? Can I coach this up? Or
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it's just the type of player he is, like do
he want to have do he believe in contact? Or
he's always been a finesse type of guy. So you
really got to find your guys within your system, man,
and you gotta weed those guys out, and the guys
that you believe are right for your system, that's when
you start building them up, investing in them. And I
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feel like that's that's what Flu's been doing. And I
feel like that's when coaches are at their best, when
they got the players that they want to play for them.
I feel like that's when their system really blossoms.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
You talked about, you know, the tricks and things like that,
Michael Parsons of course, and the way that they utilized
him coming off the edge sometimes over the a gap.
What did you learn from Micah in terms of the
blitzing ability that you feel like you can bring.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I feel like Michael always told me, just just be
natural with it, don't don't try to plan something before
it happens. Just reacts to it. And that was mainly,
you know my game. I felt like, especially coming in,
you know, I thought I was gonna have to be
more like, all right, I gotta be technical, saying I
gotta have a plan before something happens. But Na Michael
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was the one that something like, nah Keen, go out there,
And that's exactly what he said, Nah keing, go out there.
Do what you do, like, don't even think about it,
just just play. And I feel like once once I
started doing that, I was just naturally able to, you know,
get off blocks or make plays or make a move
without thinking about it.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
And I feel like that's kind of like the theme
of this Ebra flu system. I've talked to a lot
of the guys and they said, it's just simple.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You just go out there and ball.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Like how much do you like that? That individuality to just.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Go out there and play. It's like he pushed you
in a position to make the plays. You just got
to make him. And that's why I love his defense,
because everybody can be a superstar. It all feeds off
each other. Like I say, if if the linebacker eats,
the D line eats, and if the D line eating,
that means you know, the quarterback is throwing the ball
to our dB, so it all works together. He pushed
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you in a position you just got to make the
plays you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Sean Lee, I know him very well.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Among the things you have in common from a football standpoint,
you are both really violent players. A lot happens when
you get to the ball and the ball carrier, and
for that guy, almost none of it's good. Both of
you have great instincts. I've often said when Sean was playing,
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I don't have to watch the ball. I just watch Sean.
He'll take me to the ball and you do the
same thing. Here's what gets me now. You talked about
growing up in the church in arp, Texas, right, and
you're a good boy. Sean Lee is one of the nicest,
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most soft spoken people, but not on a football field.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
How do you be that person as a rockerho? I
think's got a lot of this too. I've talked to
him a little bit. You're not in your head. You
can tell us what you know about it. You're you are.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You are one very wonderful, sweet, sharing giving positive way
off the field and something really fearsome on the field.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
How do those things go together.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Look, it's it's definitely different off the field. I like to.
I'm not gonna say it's a own and off switch,
but when I step in between those white lines, I
definitely know, Look, I got a job to do, and
you know every sixty minutes that you got a job
you want to do. And that's the thing, like if
you don't go out there with that mindset of it's
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something that I want to do, like I'm gonna enjoy
doing it. And you know, good at You know you're good,
don't you when you when you go out there with
that that confidence in that swag like, look, I know
I'm I'm it. I know I'm the one. Look you
can you can play free, you can play fast, and
you you give that other sideline something something to be
worried about. And I always go on the field with look,
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I'm not leaving nothing left. Every every hit, every every
time I'm making contact, Like if that's the last, if
that's my list, play, so be it. I'm gonna be
happy with the physicality of the play. And and that's
all I know. That's that's all I know. And since
since stepan foot on the football field, and it's not.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Just donovanz Rokuo's like Marist, Buddy Johnson Jackson, Like, literally
all those guys in that room, y'all have the same personality.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
It doesn't make it easier, It do make it easier.
It does make it easier. We like to chill off
the field on the sideline, but we already know once
we once we on that field, Like it's straight maniac mode.
I told tell them all the time, like I want
to be known as the most violent linebacker Cord in
the NFL. So so when teams turn on the tape,
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they're like, man, we got we gotta play the cowboy linebackers.
Like if one thing, they gonna hear something. So look,
that's our mindset, that's our mentality of the linebacker room.
And uh, we're gonna showcase that all year.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And you were a safety your first two years of
Texas and in high school.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
In high school, what the hell? Look, I tell people
all the time, I skipped flag football. I never knew
how to slow down and grab the flag. I went
straight to tackle. I always played up. I always played
with my older cousins, like all I knew was physicality,
and I always wanted to be the one that gave
the punishment. When I played running back. I hate getting
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tackle I was like, like that that hurts, Like who
who wants to get tackled? So when I started doing
the tackling, I'm like, I'm anna make sure they feel
me so they don't want to get tackled again.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Did you at first like the fact that they wanted
to convert you to a linebacker?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
I didn't. I ran away from it. My my first year.
I got in there a little bit and I was like,
you know what, I'm still this is Cam Chancellor. I
thought I was gonna be Cam Chancellor. Sh And Taylor like,
I'm like, bro, I play Safety's that's why I make
my money. I get to come down fifteen yards and
just hit people like this is what I do. And
(42:10):
I think my first game or my first practice at linebacker,
I said, oh yeah, I can do this. I said,
every play it's physicality. You're in that play every place.
So and I love that part of it.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
When you were growing up, were there pro football players
that you watched that you liked watching?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I would say, really, Patrick Willis and Cam Chancellor.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Okay, so Patrick will Is the linebacker.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Yeah, I just I was always a physical guy. Look,
I love hard hits. So before any game, I watched
hard hits and Sean Taylor, Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, guys
like that.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Oh Louis, so far you mentioned one safety.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Look, I just knew my mentality was gonna get me
to the linebacker role. But I like the pretty physician,
the safety, the you know, the backpedal catch interceptions. But
once I realized, like, alright, real football players play linebacker.
You get to put your hands on somebody every play
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and you know, go make players.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Have you ever watched tape of some older guys like
Dick Buckets.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
Dick Buckets, I have seen Dick Buckets, and what do
you think of him? I love the way he played.
I mean it was straight, straight, nasty.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
I mean he was I mean the shoulder pads were
you know, yeah, but he and he was not a
fast guy, but he was all over the field.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
He got he got to the ball, and that's when
I see it, say sideline, the sideline or you know,
you're measured by where you are when the whistle blows
at the end of the play, like Dick Buckets was
a true example of that. He made sure he got
to the ball.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
There were a lot of great middle linebackers and I
date myself, but I have no choice because I am
what I am. I mean, you know there was there
was Buckets and Ray Nichi and later Tommy Nobus, and
we just lost one of the great just a wonderful man,
Leroy Jordan, one of the great boys ever Rip to
Leroy and not big, not a big guy, but just
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saw everything and ran everywhere.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
And I just wonder if the game.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Has changed so much that there's anything for you to
learn from watching tapes of those old guys.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
I think you can just look at the heart they
played with. I think back then everybody wanted to be
on the football field for more than just the money
to fame, but weren't making anybody exactly. So it was like,
if you don't love this, you're not doing it. And
I think a lot of a lot of us, a
lot of younger players can can see that when we
watch that film, like look they plan, like they don't
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care about their lives. Like look they can walk home
tonight or go home in a wheelchair. They don't care,
but they gonna play hard.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
And that was Sean Lee too.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
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on the Cowboys, our first one of the year. I'm
Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson, our very special guest, Tomarvion Overshown,
who I cannot wait?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Now?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
How how many weeks until I get squat you play again?
It'll be what it is, It'll be what Yeah, it'll
be what it is.
Speaker 10 (48:51):
I know.
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But and we'll be here next Monday night.
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And I'm not even going to tell you who I
think the guest is next week, because you're going to
lose your damn mind if I say it.
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So, but we've got something good plan. Just trust me
on that.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
Okay, anybody who has a question for Demarvion, there's a
microphone right down here. We reserve the right to cut
you off at the knee cape, So go ahead.
Speaker 9 (49:15):
Hey to Marvin Therey from a kiddy, I just want
to know one of the stories I read about you.
You talked about when you were about six years of age.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
You had a death experience.
Speaker 9 (49:29):
What went on and if you could share that moment
that really opened your eyes.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
Oh yeah, when I was six, around six, I think
going on seven, I went to this pool party. And
the thing about me like, I'm not gonna lie to you,
I wasn't a swimmer Like it was a swimming pool
and it was a water slide. So you know, I'm
on the water slide, but everybody's in the swimming pool
and it's one of those above ground swimming pools. So
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you know, I'll go over there. I want to be cool.
You know everybody over there, And about five minutes I'm
in the I'm hanging on the edges. I'm hanging on
the edges, and they was like, well, everybody got to
get off the edges. You know, the pool might come down.
But I'm right there, like the ladder is right there,
and I'm maybe like right here, and so the pool
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is on the ground and got some holes and stuff
in it. So I was like, all right, I can
jump on my tippy toes and make it to the
ladder and then I'd be good. So as I was
hopping over there on my tippy toes, I was hopping
on one and I stepped in a hole in the
ground and I slipped and twisted my ankle and I
immediately went underwater. I remember, water went down my mouth
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and I'm choking. I'm underwater and six years old. Six
years old, I remember this, and at that moment, I
just started seeing flashbacks of my young life, Like I
seen my mom was at a wedding or a funeral.
I believe I was able to see my mom. And
then all of a sudden, I seen like a bright light.
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Next thing you know, I was waking up on the
concrete the pavement next to the pool. I think I
was like unconscious for like maybe twenty thirty minutes. But yes, yes,
but I'm thankful to be here. I'm blessed. I'm blessed
and highly favored for sure. So I'm thankful to be here.
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I said, I will never get a pool until my
kids are completed. Swimming lessons. Dad swimming lessons, mom swimming lessons,
everybody's swimming lessons.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I'm gonna say, did six year old to Mario? I
know when he got on the water slide that at.
Speaker 6 (51:34):
The other end of it was the pool, look, and
that was was two foot That was cool. Okay, that
was cool. Okay, that was cool. It was just the
other pool look when everybody was I wanted to be cool.
I wanted to be cool, So I went over to
the big kid pool and you know, it was a
life memory that I'll never forget. But you know, I
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learned you got kids. I got kids?
Speaker 7 (51:57):
Man?
Speaker 8 (51:58):
How was that?
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Dad?
Speaker 6 (52:00):
I love that life. That's one thing that I would say,
you know that I find greater than playing for the
Dallas Cowboys is being a dad. I always dreamped to
being a great dad and being a great husband. So
you know, I strive to be the best that I
can be every day. This I actually get to go
home and see my boys for the first time in
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a week. So I'm excited to get home to them.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
How are they?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
I got a two month old and as soon to
be three year old. September thirteenth, he actually starred in
soccer on his birthday. I'm on, yeah, well you know
the great soccer dad.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
The great thing about that age is they don't care
if you want. They don't even know if you want
or lost.
Speaker 5 (52:40):
Look, they're just Dy's home.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
I love him even more the fact that he just
knows me as dad. He one knows me as the
marinovers on an agent zero. It's just dad, straight pure love,
just because of me.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Hey, how how much begging or cajoling did you have
to do to get to zero?
Speaker 6 (52:59):
Look, I would say as far as begging, I ain't
have to beg because, like I knew, let's say, lobby okay, okay,
I would say. I asked after the I didn't even
ask after the draft. They told me Jerry's not giving
out zero. So from then but nobody asked Jerry. They
were protecting him, which like he's not giving out. So
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I come back this following year and I asked again.
I hinted the idea like he talked to Mike and Bucky.
I'm talking to Mike Bucky. You know, I hinted a
couple of times to Jerry if I've seen him on
the practice field, but it was still it was like,
you know, that's that's nobody number that I was told
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that he had said that we got a double zero,
which what we got at zero, which was rowdy, and
that's what I heard. So after the thirteen campaign, I
was I was sold on it. But I tell people
that the the day I was supposed to go to
the factory and they was going to do the jersey
print out and stuff like that, I wanted to make sure.
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So I actually called up Paxton, his grandson, and I said, look, who,
by the way, kid you didn't know played at Texas,
played at Texas. We was locker buddies. His grandpa actually
called him on draft night before he drafted me. So
but I called him up and I'm like, look, I'm
fully invested in thirteen. Like this is not me coming
to y'all like look I need zero because I balled out,
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Like look at this point, I felt like if I
earned it, I earned it. If I didn't, so be
it because that's the that's the story I ran with
in my head, like, look, I guess I just got
to earn zero. I gotta go make plays to get it.
That's what I told myself. I don't know if that
was true, but I told myself, and Paxton said, and
Paxton said, let me talk to my mom and I
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get back to you, And not even a couple hours later,
he said, it's yours. And he was like, we're not
gonna tell nobody right now, just because you're still in season.
You can't change it anyways. But it's yours. And that's
how I zero. That's how I got zero. And you
feel good. I felt good. I feel great, And like
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I said, I feel like I earned it. It wasn't
a sign of they just giving it to me. I
felt like I went out there and proved that. You know,
if that's something I won't like, why not.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
All right, we got one minute or so left Texas,
Ohio stage. Whatever you want to say.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
You know, I've dealt with this in the locker room
the last couple of days, so my answer, my answer
is pretty good. First, I would like to say, you know,
congratulations Ohio State. You know, defending national championship, so be it. Yeah. Yeah,
First I would say, you know, our defense did outstanding
that that is a national championship defense. I'm proud of PK.
I'm proud of leading the boys and all that. I
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can say that, and then I can say the one
thing that I'm happy about is you know how Arch
and Sark both took accountability after the game. It's like,
we can do better. I can be better. I can
put my player in better situations in order for him
to make plays. So, uh, you know, I like the
fact that we took accountability for the loss. Now, I'm
not excited that we lost, but can we grow from that? Yes?
(56:12):
Can I be excited for this Saturday coming up? Like
I feel sorry for San Jose State because you know,
we we got some stuff to do, and I'm excited
about us just growing from there. Who gave it to
you the worst in the locker room definitely MALIEK. Cooker.
It's like, and the crazy thing is, it's like we
dealt with this last year, so you know, Malik Cooker.
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But it's cool, We're gonna get them better.
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Demarvion over showing everybody what man, oh man, you're great
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Speaker 4 (02:08):
So then I said, who is the biggest name player
we can get for our easy year, mister Q, just
wait for it. Who's the biggest name player, the biggest
fan favorite that we can get to start the year.
We like to start the year with a bang.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
So I am.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I am very sad that we are able to have
this man tonight because we all want to watch him
play and that will be coming soon enough. But in
the meantime, what a joy to have demarve On overshowing
here with us to start the year. Dro Thank you,
thank you, Now.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Come on very very again.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
All right there, you're a little more coaching, but it's
the first game of the year. We'll be fine.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
We are.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We are just so high happy to have you here.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Thank you for taking part of your Monday, Thursday, whatever
the hell day it is to you, guys.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Show show.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
How do you feel?
Speaker 5 (03:08):
That's what everybody wants to know. How you doing?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Oh? No, First of all, thank y'all for having me.
You know, I know last year I was on here
and I said, whenever y'all wanted me back, you know,
let me know and I'll come. So I appreciate y'all
having me back. But you know, to answer your question,
I feel great. I feel good. I don't know if
y'all have been seeing any videos of me moving around
me and Rev moving around with Brett. But uh, you know,
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like I say all the time, if it was up
to me, i'd be out there with with my feelas.
But you know, it's one of those things where it's time.
It's time with it. But if you ask me, look,
I could be out on the field right now.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
What's the rehab process been like for you over these
last what eight months?
Speaker 6 (03:51):
It's been chill. You know, I got a strong support
system around me, and you know, sadly but also a
good thing. I've been through this before, so you know,
I kind of know where where all my my milestones
and my checkmarks, what I need to feel like when
I need to feel like. So it's been easy. I
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haven't been stressed for at all, and I think that's
been the key thing. You know, I haven't been stressed,
so it's easy for me to grow up there, get
some good work in with brick, come home, be a dad,
be a fiance, and you know, get back up, smile
and do it again the next day.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Do you ever not yet up smiling?
Speaker 7 (04:29):
Look?
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Do you ever have?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I mean, you're I love Everybody loves this about you.
Your attitude is infectious.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Look I'm not gonna say every day I just get up,
you know, smiling, but I know every day I find
a reason to smile. And you know that's that's one
of the main things to get through, you know, life
in general. Like you gotta find joy in everything you do,
and I find joy in waking up and you know,
challenging myself every day to get this neeed back to
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top shape. So you know you do that, you smile
like you say it's in fakes. You is one person smile.
Now to you make somebody else smile, that's two people.
And you know the next thing, you know is just
positive energy everywhere.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
You know You're but you're You're more than just. I
was gonna do this later, but this is where.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
We are right now. We'll circle back you.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
What did Taylor Swift say about Travis Culsey. He's a
human exclamation point, which is true. You then, are a
human exclamation point in all caps.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
You are.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And I don't know how someone can be in a
workplace with you or a social setting or business setting
and see how you are and how you approach things
and not feel good. I don't know how someone can
be around you and say, well, okay, then you know,
I think maybe I can improve my attitude a little bit.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
Have you always been like that?
Speaker 6 (05:51):
I think for as long as I can remember, I've
always been like this. You know. I actually grew up
in the church and it's this, It's called this little
light of mind. I'm gonna I'm gonna shine and shine
and so like all my life, you know, I've always
been like, you know, I'm gonna shine my life bright.
You know it might just you know, biting somebody else's life.
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It's not as bright as mind. So you know, do you.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Notice that guys kind of follow you and and are
are drawn to you, that you are somewhat magnetic with
that personality?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Did you know that? I think I can feel it
at times. I think I definitely do my best to
you know, make me feel approachable, make me, you know,
feel like I'm doing the right thing. That guys can
look at me and say, Okay, Demo's doing the right
I'm gonna follow Demo. So you know, that's one thing
growing up I've always inspired to to be that the leader,
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that frontman in the line going to battle, and guys
can look at me and say, look, I want to
go to the world of demos. So you know, it's
definitely I don't take it for granted being in that position.
A lot of people say, you know that they just
puts extra pressure on you, but I always say, you know,
pressure is a good thing. You strive to be something
in your life and you know the pressure comes with it.
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So I'm excited. I love the fact that you know,
I'm able to call myself a leader.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Let's go back to your knee just for a second,
because you said that one thing that gets you through
this is that you've been through this before.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
And my question is, have you really?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Because there's nothing inside what holds your knee together that
you didn't tear or.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Break right right, you haven't been through that before?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
You I haven't. I haven't. But you know, to say
I haven't been through things tougher than this would would
be an understatement because you know, I know I got
the best doctors, the best medical staff, everything I got
going into my knee, But you know, other situations growing up,
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I didn't have the best you know, growing up situations.
So I've always felt like, you know, I got a
over that anything that I face in life is obtainable.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
What have you learned about yourself mentally.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Throughout all this? Uh? Just how how resilient I am,
And you know how each how each battle, you know,
I come back stronger. You know I find a different
challenge each day to attack, and you know I always
challenge myself to do it while smiling too. You know,
I know it's gonna be hard days. I know it's
gonna be days where I'm tired. You know, the last
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couple of days, you know, it's been hot outside, so uh,
you know, I've been tired, but I've always you know,
wanted to do it with a smile. And so that's
one thing that I found out and myself that you know,
I'm stronger than what I thought.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
You also talked about, you know, you said milestones for
yourself throughout you know, all of it. What were some
of those milestones that you did kind of set for
yourself and what they look like.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I know, just coming back from California. I think I
came back like maybe three days after my surgery, and
at that point, I was tired of getting driven around
by my fiance in California. So I told myself as
soon as I got home, like, I don't care how
I'm feeling, I'm driving my truck. I don't care how
I'm feeling I'm driving my truck. I don't I don't
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think the training staff would be okay with me jumping
into my truck. You know how tall my truck is.
I'm jumping in there with two braces on. And did
you tell them? I didn't. I told them towards the
end when I got off crutches.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
By the way, just y'all know I've been driving my
truck for about.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
And so at that point it was too late for
them to tell me to stop. So it was just
things like that, like just getting up and challenging myself
to do things like that, like, look, I know if
I can get to the point of driving my own truck, like,
that's one thing I can do by myself already.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
But and.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
To me, this attitude that you have surrounding this injury,
which is just very much part of who you are,
coming on the heels of what cost you your entire
roop season in pre season that had to be beyond disappointing.
You're playing so well, you're playing like an all pro,
a real difference maker, and now then this happens.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
And you've already lived through it once.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And is it as simple as faith that gets you
lifted up enough to just keep coming back from all off?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
It's as simple as having faith. I know, I know
my plan, and I know what I've done to get here,
and like I said, my light to shine, it wasn't
done yet. And I feel like on the football field
is when my light is that it's brighter. So just
being able to continue be a testimony every day, you know,
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getting back, getting another opportunity just to get up and
walk off the field. I knew right then, like I
was gonna be okay. The fact that I didn't get
carted off the field, the fact that you know, I
got in there, done the MRIs showered myself, took all
my like I've done all that myself. So just on
that little bit, you know, made me realize I'm gonna
be okay, Like I'm gonna be able to sleep tonight.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
And how have you changed if you have the timeline
for getting back? I've heard it said Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think I've read or heard that you said, yeah,
maybe before that. Well we'll see. What.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
How have you like challenged the timeline that the medical
people gave you.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Oh yeah, for sure. I mean I know as soon
as I was walking off the field, actually asked Britt Brown, like,
all right, what I gotta do to get back? Like
how long it's gonna take. I need to know right now,
Like I gotta challenge myself to beat that.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
As you're walking off the field.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
From as I'm walking off the say, I can't tell
you now, I would have got to do an MRI.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
He was like, look, I can't, I can't tell you
exactly right now, but you know it's it's serious. So
I was like, look, I just need to know a number.
You tell me a number, and you know, I'm gonna
challenge my stuff. And he's like, you're looking at ten
to twelve. And I took that and I was like,
all right, I be done. I'll be ready in eight.
And I've been going and you know, during my research,
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I tell people all the time that I got that
that East Texas blood in me. So you know, Adrian
Peterson after he tore multiple ligaments in his leg, his
MVP offensive you know, player to your season was the
following year. So you know, I always said that I
was gonna be okay whenever my time came to get
on the field.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I know, if we don't have one hundred percent validation
that Peterson is actually human because he I mean, he.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
May be a cyborg.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Maybe he may be and you be. And that's what
I'm saying, like, when you get on the field, people
are gonna think that when they see me moving faster,
smoother than I was last year. So I'm excited to
showcase that. I know. I know a lot of people
have expressed to me that they excited to get me
back on the field. But the feelings is definitely mutual.
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We are at Sidecar Social in the Star District. I'm
Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson. Our very special guests to
start the season. Who could be better than the sunshine
of this entire football team, Demarveon Overshown. And this is
the first time in my memory that certainly we've started
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the year, but maybe.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
At any point that we had a whole.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Table full of people wearing shirts with your name and
nickname and image of it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
So that's good. I'm very impressed.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Matt Eberflus, the new defensive coordinator, talked a lot. Brian
Schottenheimer's talked a lot about how during OTAs and then
especially out in camp, you were not rehabbing inside you weren't.
You were like in Eberflus's hip pocket and like learning
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his cadence right and what the everything was.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
So tell me about that. That was an interesting thing
to observe. How'd that come about you?
Speaker 6 (17:45):
No, it was I definitely take that experience, and not
just from the football side of it, but I think
it was another way for me and Fluce to build
our relationship without me being on the field.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
You know.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
So basically I look at, you know, how Shoddy and
Dak relationship and it's basically, you have Shody on the
field that's quarterback with Dak because he's so smart, and
I feel like, you know, on the defensive side, that's
kind of where I wanted to take my game. I
felt like my physical abilities was there. But last year,
if you know, maybe I'm looking at the right things,
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or I seen something in film study a little quicker,
or if I just seen it out of flucemine a
little quicker, like I'm making, you know, more plays. So
that was one of the things I wanted to challenge
myself at as being mentally over prepared for a game
where I can call out players before they even happen.
I know, in the breakfast club we call it basically
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the guys, it's not in special teams. Go meet with
the coordinators and your coaches and just get some behind
the scenes on who we scouting that week. And me
and him talked about Sean Lee constantly, and I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Do you know I met him?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Ye, I haven't met him, but last year we exchanged
texts during my first injury and he was a guy
that was able to have some some dimes on me.
So I told him, I want to be at the
level where I'm You're on the field, through the through
the headset.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
I'll text him when we get done. I will text
him and say, get down here. I know you're living
in Matacito or on a boat.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Or some damn things.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Nice, uh, I get down here and spend some time
with overshowing because he's your kind of guy.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
So do you feel now like you have a handle
on what Flush is doing?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I do?
Speaker 9 (19:27):
I do.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I feel like as soon as I step on the field,
you know, it's not gonna not gonna be no catching up.
It's gonna be me as soon as I get out there,
just clicking on with everybody. And I think that's been
another reason why I've been attached to him, because I
don't want to be off, you know, just doing treatment
and then not not getting the football side of things
since I can't physically get the reps. So uh, being mentally,
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like I said, over prepared for when I come back,
and Uh, all I have to do is put the
physical to it at that point, and I know I'll
be good in that department.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Now, you said, Sharanlie drops some domes on you. What
has Matt Eberflus dropped on you? In terms of you
learning something out of Eba Flues that you haven't learned
from any other defensive coordinator. Considering he is a linebackers.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Coach, he is he is, Uh, And that's one thing
I can say, I said, out of all my coordinators,
I feel like he's been the most hand on, hands
on with me, especially you know, developing into a linebacker
starting off as a safety. So uh, just some of
those you know, just you know, being interchangeable with your
with your D line, like you know, if they eat,
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I eat, If I eat, they eat. So if you
get to working with your D line, like that's that's
how you make plays. And I feel like, you know,
when you see it on tape and you just see
the guys in the linebacker room doing it right now,
you know it makes sense. So I'm actually excited to
see them flying around Thursday.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
How often is Ebraflus in the linebackers meeting?
Speaker 6 (20:50):
So he's he's in our meetings, like he yeah, until
until it's over heat, he's with us. So I think
a lot of position groups like the fact that he's
with the line I think hook hooked and made that
clear like when he had him in Indy. It's like, look,
you you you're gonna love him as a person, but
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as a coach, you know, he gonna get after you.
And I feel like as the linebackers, we take full
We we love that, you know, we want to be
not only the alphas of the defensive side of the ball,
but the whole team in general. So just having fluenced
in that, being able to coach us up on everything,
making sure we're dialed in.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
So I had a little bit of this conversation with
osa in in camp. Uh even though two years ago
you only played in the preseason, just out very quickly,
but you were you were with Dan Quinn all the
way through off season and camp and all of that.
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And then last year was Mike Zimmer. So here you
are in your third year trying to finish, you know,
a year. But you it's not just three different coordinators.
Those three guys had three different systems from each other.
There's people don't understand how little similarity the approach is.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
How is that not difficult?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
I think, you know, one one reason I actually had
three coordinators in college. But no, I say, just so
it ain't new for me. But I just say for
players in general, it's just like it's one thing I
think people notice, like our physical physical abilities, but you know,
you got to take what you do in the classroom
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and put that on the field. So you got to
be a student of the game. And I feel like
a lot of us are really good at you know,
kind of veering off into something easily, like being able
to see something and just react to it. So and
the way that the Fluse coach, it's more of a
he's teaching to us. He's not just coaching, he's teaching
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us the materials. So once you get a grasp of
what he's teaching, everything is the same, and I think
you're able to play faster without thinking.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
The elephant in the room, of course, would be every
defensive player wants to play with a player like Micah Parsons.
I mean, he's one of the greatest players of the decade,
and you did and now you're not.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
And that's just kind of the way the business goes.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
How do those of you, I'm just going to act
like you're playing right now because I feel like you are.
How have you all addressed that to say, hey, we
will be fine, we or you know, we have to
do this without him, or we just have to be
who we are. Other guys are going to get opportunities now,
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Sam and easier, they're going to get some big time opportunities.
But when you lose a player like that, it's a
little bit of a surprise, a little emotional. How did
y'all handle that and how do you handle the prospects
going forward?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I would say, yeah, it's definitely hard losing a guy
like Micah, not just as a teammate, but a lot
of people don't see like the brotherhood we build, you
know that's not shown on TV in three hundred and
sixty five days or you know the guy that's six
sixth next to me to me and meetings, it's like
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it's it's deeper than football. So you know, from a
player in the locker room aspect, like we all understand
the business like look both sides. You know they wanted
for themselves and I think you know, the only losers
out of it is you know, his brothers. Like as
far as teammates, we understand like his business, but you know,
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you can't replace a brother or a friend that you
see every day with you, you interact with every day.
But I always look at it as like you can't
take nothing negative out of this situation. I mean, this
man has set up his family for generations. He I say,
the tears that him and his mom shed, Uh was
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staying the shirts that they're wearing because they'll never forget them.
And when you're able to do that as a young man, Uh,
your your kids would be taken care of, your your
whole family be taken care of. You got to do
something for yourself, you know you you celebrate things like that.
So I feel like the locker room, I think, Oh
said it best. It's it's tough at a time like
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this to really dwell on it, because like you want
to be sad. But at the same time, we played
football Thursday, and uh, this is time that you know
us as teammates and and the fan base should uplifting
Kenny Clark because his he he changed. I believe he
He told me he was taking his daughter to get
ice cream when he found out he was coming to Dallas.
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So uh, I think we we addressed something that wanted
that needed to be addressed with a great player, a
guy that that wants to win. Since he stepped in
the building. I think our first text when I found
out he was getting traded, Uh, he sent me like,
let's get this ship. Let's let's win this ship. And
you need that in the building to win. I feel
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like all the girls, I mean all the guys have
have flocked to them and we were gonna do some
things this ship.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And I'm sure do you find that, guys said, I
don't know whether you set it out loud or you
could feel it that. Okay, well, when the first wave
of surprise passed, okay, well now people say, well they
can't do it, they're no good without Parsons, and the
rest of you say.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Well, well hold on minute, now, we didn't just fall
off a turnip truck. We we think we can do something.
Did you do you find some of that going on?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, look, Micah is one of
one generational talent. But when you look across all all
rosters in the NFL, is talent and when you when
you got coaches that that's invest in and developed that talent,
like you know, those things like that can can be
made up. And so, uh no, you can't replace Micah
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Michaeh Parson the player. Can you replace some of the
things that he do do? Yes? And I feel like
that's where we're at with it. You know, it's it's
the next guy up. It's uh you know, it's a
reason why everybody is gonna be wearing that star that
that plays on Thursday. And you know, they got a
job to do. We got a job to do, and
uh We're gonna do that.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
You talk about talent in the NFL, I mean you
still have talent on this defensive line. Donovan Azeraku. I mean,
and what Aaron why Cotton has done with him. Dante
Fowler coming off the season he had in Washington, Sam Williams,
I mean that defensive line room, defensive in room is
gonna be special. But I mean how special do you
feel like that group can be.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
I feel like that group is is gonna turn a
lot of heads this Thursday. Early on in the season,
it's been one of the most dominant groups throughout camp.
I feel like that was enough for them to say
to believe, like, look, we got the guys that you
know we can go to battle and we can win with.
So you know, I guess that made them comfortable enough
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to be able to move something like that by seeing
the pieces that we already you know we got in
the defensive end room, and I see how how hard
those guys work, and best believe, you know, they got
a chip on their shoulder too, and you know they're
gonna do what we gotta do to win.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
We're gonna take another break more with Demarvion over shown. Yes,
we'll talk about the Ohio State game for a minute,
just for a minute, and then.
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I'm Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson and our very special
guests for the first show. What a great way to
start with Demarveon Overshown, the Cowboys linebacker.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
And I've heard, yes, please, that's right, act like you
like him. And so I have heard some people who
have seen.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
You play and maybe think they know a little something
about the way Fluce likes to attack, say, could could
Demo be like a pass rusher like Micah? Because what
some people don't remember is that he Michaeh was not
an edge rusher.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
At Penn State.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
He was a phenomenal linebacker. Doesn't mean he didn't rush
the passer, but he came from everywhere. He covered the
entire field and it was only when DeMarcus Lawrence got
hurt in on Wednesday of week two that dan Quinn said, Hey, Micah,
what do you think about playing end and rushing to passer?
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And that's what that's how he became what he turned into.
So in Flus's system as best as you can explain
it to a bunch of people who don't play, I mean,
is there a way for you to have the impact
that you have going sideline to sideline and also penetrate
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and rush the passer.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Uh, it's definitely, you know, some stuff dialed up and
Flu's playbook for me to spin down and do stuff
like that. And you know that's something that you know,
I wish I would have started doing on earlier on
last year, but I've been capable of doing like that.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Wasn't Jim's game though, wasn't.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Not really not until he actually seen that I can
blitz and then kind of like when Michael went out,
you know, all of his blitzets became my blitzer. So
I feel like, you know, a FLU system was more
of a you know, we we we go off the point,
or we we see something and we gained plan that
it really wasn't a certain player had this responsibility. So
(33:51):
the way he's able to mix it up as far
as like the packages and things like that, you might
see me, you know, spin down on the line, sometimes
spin off the ball. So I would definitely say that
you see me rush the passer a lot when I
come back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
It's such a good point that you make that because
I mentioned you're playing for your third coordinator, and as
you pointed out, you had three hit Texas. I didn't
realize that what would it be like to have the
same coordinator two years in a row.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I wonder.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Look, I'm actually I grew the most when I had
the same coordinator twice, so you know, it's always fun
to learn new stuff and learn get new tricks up
your up your sleeves. But being able to use those
same tricks for a couple of years, I know I
could really dominate. So I'm hoping this this be the
(34:41):
jack spot. The jackpot I mean with Flews, I feel
like he's built something special on the defensive side of
the ball. I love the way he coached. He's a
coach that you know, believes in the same thing I
believe in and that's running and hidding. That's that's eighty
percent of the defense right there, just being able to
run it won't to run and hit. And he believes
(35:02):
in that, so I'm hoping he'd stick around for the
long ride.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
And by the way, people don't really know much about
a lot of assistant coaches, but technically he's the coordinator.
Dave Bargonzi is the linebackers coach, and he was here
before when Matt was the linebacker's coach, and Gonzo has
also grown as a coach through the years. But what
I was going to say was or ask you about,
(35:28):
was you know, you talk about having three different coordinators.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So you've got to learn three systems, but they've got
to learn you.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Like you were talking about, Zimmer didn't really realize what
you had in your bag until he saw you for
a while. So do you think that just from watching
tape that these guys kind of have a handle on you.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
I think they've been doing it for a while. I
think you can watch a little tape and get a
good feel of how somebody really is, but until you
actually having those interactions with them, coaching them up, seeing
it realize speed or real life and practice like, Okay,
why did he do this in a game? Like why
is he doing this? Can I coach this up? Or
(36:08):
it's just the type of player he is, like do
he want to have do he believe in contact? Or
he's always been a finesse type of guy. So you
really got to find your guys within your system, man,
and you gotta weed those guys out, and the guys
that you believe are right for your system, that's when
you start building them up, investing in them. And I
(36:29):
feel like that's that's what Flu's been doing. And I
feel like that's when coaches are at their best, when
they got the players that they want to play for them.
I feel like that's when their system really blossoms.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
You talked about, you know, the tricks and things like that,
Michael Parsons of course, and the way that they utilized
him coming off the edge sometimes over the a gap.
What did you learn from Micah in terms of the
blitzing ability that you feel like you can bring.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I feel like Michael always told me, just just be
natural with it, don't don't try to plan something before
it happens. Just reacts to it. And that was mainly,
you know my game. I felt like, especially coming in,
you know, I thought I was gonna have to be
more like, all right, I gotta be technical, saying I
gotta have a plan before something happens. But Na Michael
(37:12):
was the one that something like, nah Keen, go out there,
And that's exactly what he said, Nah keing, go out there.
Do what you do, like, don't even think about it,
just just play. And I feel like once once I
started doing that, I was just naturally able to, you know,
get off blocks or make plays or make a move
without thinking about it.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
And I feel like that's kind of like the theme
of this Ebra flu system. I've talked to a lot
of the guys and they said, it's just simple.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
You just go out there and ball.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Like how much do you like that? That individuality to just.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Go out there and play. It's like he pushed you
in a position to make the plays. You just got
to make him. And that's why I love his defense,
because everybody can be a superstar. It all feeds off
each other. Like I say, if if the linebacker eats,
the D line eats, and if the D line eating,
that means you know, the quarterback is throwing the ball
to our dB, so it all works together. He pushed
(38:00):
you in a position you just got to make the
plays you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Sean Lee, I know him very well.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Among the things you have in common from a football standpoint,
you are both really violent players. A lot happens when
you get to the ball and the ball carrier, and
for that guy, almost none of it's good. Both of
you have great instincts. I've often said when Sean was playing,
(38:30):
I don't have to watch the ball. I just watch Sean.
He'll take me to the ball and you do the
same thing. Here's what gets me now. You talked about
growing up in the church in arp, Texas, right, and
you're a good boy. Sean Lee is one of the nicest,
(38:51):
most soft spoken people, but not on a football field.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
How do you be that person as a rockerho? I
think's got a lot of this too. I've talked to
him a little bit. You're not in your head. You
can tell us what you know about it. You're you are.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
You are one very wonderful, sweet, sharing giving positive way
off the field and something really fearsome on the field.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
How do those things go together.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
Look, it's it's definitely different off the field. I like to.
I'm not gonna say it's a own and off switch,
but when I step in between those white lines, I
definitely know, Look, I got a job to do, and
you know every sixty minutes that you got a job
you want to do. And that's the thing, like if
you don't go out there with that mindset of it's
(39:44):
something that I want to do, like I'm gonna enjoy
doing it. And you know, good at You know you're good,
don't you when you when you go out there with
that that confidence in that swag like, look, I know
I'm I'm it. I know I'm the one. Look you
can you can play free, you can play fast, and
you you give that other sideline something something to be
worried about. And I always go on the field with look,
(40:06):
I'm not leaving nothing left. Every every hit, every every
time I'm making contact, Like if that's the last, if
that's my list, play, so be it. I'm gonna be
happy with the physicality of the play. And and that's
all I know. That's that's all I know. And since
since stepan foot on the football field, and it's not.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Just donovanz Rokuo's like Marist, Buddy Johnson Jackson, Like, literally
all those guys in that room, y'all have the same personality.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
It doesn't make it easier, It do make it easier.
It does make it easier. We like to chill off
the field on the sideline, but we already know once
we once we on that field, Like it's straight maniac mode.
I told tell them all the time, like I want
to be known as the most violent linebacker Cord in
the NFL. So so when teams turn on the tape,
(40:55):
they're like, man, we got we gotta play the cowboy linebackers.
Like if one thing, they gonna hear something. So look,
that's our mindset, that's our mentality of the linebacker room.
And uh, we're gonna showcase that all year.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And you were a safety your first two years of
Texas and in high school.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
In high school, what the hell? Look, I tell people
all the time, I skipped flag football. I never knew
how to slow down and grab the flag. I went
straight to tackle. I always played up. I always played
with my older cousins, like all I knew was physicality,
and I always wanted to be the one that gave
the punishment. When I played running back. I hate getting
(41:35):
tackle I was like, like that that hurts, Like who
who wants to get tackled? So when I started doing
the tackling, I'm like, I'm anna make sure they feel
me so they don't want to get tackled again.
Speaker 7 (41:46):
Did you at first like the fact that they wanted
to convert you to a linebacker?
Speaker 6 (41:49):
I didn't. I ran away from it. My my first year.
I got in there a little bit and I was like,
you know what, I'm still this is Cam Chancellor. I
thought I was gonna be Cam Chancellor. Sh And Taylor like,
I'm like, bro, I play Safety's that's why I make
my money. I get to come down fifteen yards and
just hit people like this is what I do. And
(42:10):
I think my first game or my first practice at linebacker,
I said, oh yeah, I can do this. I said,
every play it's physicality. You're in that play every place.
So and I love that part of it.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
When you were growing up, were there pro football players
that you watched that you liked watching?
Speaker 6 (42:27):
I would say, really, Patrick Willis and Cam Chancellor.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Okay, so Patrick will Is the linebacker.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Yeah, I just I was always a physical guy. Look,
I love hard hits. So before any game, I watched
hard hits and Sean Taylor, Ray Lewis, Patrick Willis, guys
like that.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
Oh Louis, so far you mentioned one safety.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
Look, I just knew my mentality was gonna get me
to the linebacker role. But I like the pretty physician,
the safety, the you know, the backpedal catch interceptions. But
once I realized, like, alright, real football players play linebacker.
You get to put your hands on somebody every play
(43:08):
and you know, go make players.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Have you ever watched tape of some older guys like
Dick Buckets.
Speaker 6 (43:14):
Dick Buckets, I have seen Dick Buckets, and what do
you think of him? I love the way he played.
I mean it was straight, straight, nasty.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
I mean he was I mean the shoulder pads were
you know, yeah, but he and he was not a
fast guy, but he was all over the field.
Speaker 6 (43:31):
He got he got to the ball, and that's when
I see it, say sideline, the sideline or you know,
you're measured by where you are when the whistle blows
at the end of the play, like Dick Buckets was
a true example of that. He made sure he got
to the ball.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
There were a lot of great middle linebackers and I
date myself, but I have no choice because I am
what I am. I mean, you know there was there
was Buckets and Ray Nichi and later Tommy Nobus, and
we just lost one of the great just a wonderful man,
Leroy Jordan, one of the great boys ever Rip to
Leroy and not big, not a big guy, but just
(44:06):
saw everything and ran everywhere.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
And I just wonder if the game.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
Has changed so much that there's anything for you to
learn from watching tapes of those old guys.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
I think you can just look at the heart they
played with. I think back then everybody wanted to be
on the football field for more than just the money
to fame, but weren't making anybody exactly. So it was like,
if you don't love this, you're not doing it. And
I think a lot of a lot of us, a
lot of younger players can can see that when we
watch that film, like look they plan, like they don't
(44:40):
care about their lives. Like look they can walk home
tonight or go home in a wheelchair. They don't care,
but they gonna play hard.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
And that was Sean Lee too.
Speaker 4 (44:49):
I'm gonna get him down here to meet you our
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And back with Zach Gar Social in the Star District
on the Cowboys, our first one of the year. I'm
Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson, our very special guest, Tomarvion Overshown,
who I cannot wait?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Now?
Speaker 5 (48:44):
How how many weeks until I get squat you play again?
It'll be what it is, It'll be what Yeah, it'll
be what it is.
Speaker 10 (48:51):
I know.
Speaker 5 (48:52):
But and we'll be here next Monday night.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
And I'm not even going to tell you who I
think the guest is next week, because you're going to
lose your damn mind if I say it.
Speaker 5 (49:00):
So, but we've got something good plan. Just trust me
on that.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
Okay, anybody who has a question for Demarvion, there's a
microphone right down here. We reserve the right to cut
you off at the knee cape, So go ahead.
Speaker 9 (49:15):
Hey to Marvin Therey from a kiddy, I just want
to know one of the stories I read about you.
You talked about when you were about six years of age.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
You had a death experience.
Speaker 9 (49:29):
What went on and if you could share that moment
that really opened your eyes.
Speaker 6 (49:33):
Oh yeah, when I was six, around six, I think
going on seven, I went to this pool party. And
the thing about me like, I'm not gonna lie to you,
I wasn't a swimmer Like it was a swimming pool
and it was a water slide. So you know, I'm
on the water slide, but everybody's in the swimming pool
and it's one of those above ground swimming pools. So
(49:54):
you know, I'll go over there. I want to be cool.
You know everybody over there, And about five minutes I'm
in the I'm hanging on the edges. I'm hanging on
the edges, and they was like, well, everybody got to
get off the edges. You know, the pool might come down.
But I'm right there, like the ladder is right there,
and I'm maybe like right here, and so the pool
(50:15):
is on the ground and got some holes and stuff
in it. So I was like, all right, I can
jump on my tippy toes and make it to the
ladder and then I'd be good. So as I was
hopping over there on my tippy toes, I was hopping
on one and I stepped in a hole in the
ground and I slipped and twisted my ankle and I
immediately went underwater. I remember, water went down my mouth
(50:38):
and I'm choking. I'm underwater and six years old. Six
years old, I remember this, and at that moment, I
just started seeing flashbacks of my young life, Like I
seen my mom was at a wedding or a funeral.
I believe I was able to see my mom. And
then all of a sudden, I seen like a bright light.
(50:58):
Next thing you know, I was waking up on the
concrete the pavement next to the pool. I think I
was like unconscious for like maybe twenty thirty minutes. But yes, yes,
but I'm thankful to be here. I'm blessed. I'm blessed
and highly favored for sure. So I'm thankful to be here.
(51:18):
I said, I will never get a pool until my
kids are completed. Swimming lessons. Dad swimming lessons, mom swimming lessons,
everybody's swimming lessons.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I'm gonna say, did six year old to Mario? I
know when he got on the water slide that at.
Speaker 6 (51:34):
The other end of it was the pool, look, and
that was was two foot That was cool. Okay, that
was cool. Okay, that was cool. It was just the
other pool look when everybody was I wanted to be cool.
I wanted to be cool, So I went over to
the big kid pool and you know, it was a
life memory that I'll never forget. But you know, I
(51:55):
learned you got kids. I got kids?
Speaker 7 (51:57):
Man?
Speaker 8 (51:58):
How was that?
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Dad?
Speaker 6 (52:00):
I love that life. That's one thing that I would say,
you know that I find greater than playing for the
Dallas Cowboys is being a dad. I always dreamped to
being a great dad and being a great husband. So
you know, I strive to be the best that I
can be every day. This I actually get to go
home and see my boys for the first time in
(52:21):
a week. So I'm excited to get home to them.
Speaker 5 (52:23):
How are they?
Speaker 6 (52:24):
I got a two month old and as soon to
be three year old. September thirteenth, he actually starred in
soccer on his birthday. I'm on, yeah, well you know
the great soccer dad.
Speaker 4 (52:35):
The great thing about that age is they don't care
if you want. They don't even know if you want
or lost.
Speaker 5 (52:40):
Look, they're just Dy's home.
Speaker 6 (52:42):
I love him even more the fact that he just
knows me as dad. He one knows me as the
marinovers on an agent zero. It's just dad, straight pure love,
just because of me.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Hey, how how much begging or cajoling did you have
to do to get to zero?
Speaker 6 (52:59):
Look, I would say as far as begging, I ain't
have to beg because, like I knew, let's say, lobby okay, okay,
I would say. I asked after the I didn't even
ask after the draft. They told me Jerry's not giving
out zero. So from then but nobody asked Jerry. They
were protecting him, which like he's not giving out. So
(53:19):
I come back this following year and I asked again.
I hinted the idea like he talked to Mike and Bucky.
I'm talking to Mike Bucky. You know, I hinted a
couple of times to Jerry if I've seen him on
the practice field, but it was still it was like,
you know, that's that's nobody number that I was told
(53:40):
that he had said that we got a double zero,
which what we got at zero, which was rowdy, and
that's what I heard. So after the thirteen campaign, I
was I was sold on it. But I tell people
that the the day I was supposed to go to
the factory and they was going to do the jersey
print out and stuff like that, I wanted to make sure.
(54:01):
So I actually called up Paxton, his grandson, and I said, look, who,
by the way, kid you didn't know played at Texas,
played at Texas. We was locker buddies. His grandpa actually
called him on draft night before he drafted me. So
but I called him up and I'm like, look, I'm
fully invested in thirteen. Like this is not me coming
to y'all like look I need zero because I balled out,
(54:24):
Like look at this point, I felt like if I
earned it, I earned it. If I didn't, so be
it because that's the that's the story I ran with
in my head, like, look, I guess I just got
to earn zero. I gotta go make plays to get it.
That's what I told myself. I don't know if that
was true, but I told myself, and Paxton said, and
Paxton said, let me talk to my mom and I
(54:45):
get back to you, And not even a couple hours later,
he said, it's yours. And he was like, we're not
gonna tell nobody right now, just because you're still in season.
You can't change it anyways. But it's yours. And that's
how I zero. That's how I got zero. And you
feel good. I felt good. I feel great, And like
(55:06):
I said, I feel like I earned it. It wasn't
a sign of they just giving it to me. I
felt like I went out there and proved that. You know,
if that's something I won't like, why not.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
All right, we got one minute or so left Texas,
Ohio stage. Whatever you want to say.
Speaker 6 (55:27):
You know, I've dealt with this in the locker room
the last couple of days, so my answer, my answer
is pretty good. First, I would like to say, you know,
congratulations Ohio State. You know, defending national championship, so be it. Yeah. Yeah,
First I would say, you know, our defense did outstanding
that that is a national championship defense. I'm proud of PK.
I'm proud of leading the boys and all that. I
(55:48):
can say that, and then I can say the one
thing that I'm happy about is you know how Arch
and Sark both took accountability after the game. It's like,
we can do better. I can be better. I can
put my player in better situations in order for him
to make plays. So, uh, you know, I like the
fact that we took accountability for the loss. Now, I'm
not excited that we lost, but can we grow from that? Yes?
(56:12):
Can I be excited for this Saturday coming up? Like
I feel sorry for San Jose State because you know,
we we got some stuff to do, and I'm excited
about us just growing from there. Who gave it to
you the worst in the locker room definitely MALIEK. Cooker.
It's like, and the crazy thing is, it's like we
dealt with this last year, so you know, Malik Cooker.
(56:34):
But it's cool, We're gonna get them better.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Demarvion over showing everybody what man, oh man, you're great
and I cannot wait to get you back on Thank you,
appreciate you being here.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
Thank you all for joining us on Labor.
Speaker 4 (56:48):
Day, Thursday night Cowboys in Philadelphia and the cold. I'll
be right back here next Monday on the Cowboy, Dallascowboys
dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 8 (57:00):
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