December 10, 2025 • 51 mins
Whether or not the Cowboys can make the playoffs, defining success and failure in Brian Schottenheimer’s first season is up for debate … and it was definitely debated.
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Here's Nick Eatman. Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline presented
by Gillette. I'm Nick Eatman, which Wednesday, December of the tenth,
Cowboys take on the Minnesota Vikings Sunday Night on NBC
Sunday Night Football at at and T Stadium. You know,
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you always wonder when they when the league puts out
these games like that, and uh, you know, is this
gonna be one of those those big, big time matchups
and you know there might be some over there at
NBC that's like, oh, I wish this game was a
little bit more meaningful. But first of all, it is
the Cowboys, and we know what the Cowboys can draw big,
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big numbers. But in this kind of what what December
football is all about, you know, survive in advanced type thing,
hang on for dear life. You can't get more of
a desperation type game. This is the Desperation Bowl between
the the Vikings and the Cowboys. I looked at the
standings and bottom two teams in the NFC that are
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still they don't have that asterisk, you know, they haven't
been eliminated yet, Vikings and Cowboys. So they're they're they're
hanging on the winner of this game. If there is
a winner. I guess we have to always qualify that.
But the winner of this game will will, you know,
at least be in decent shape again for the next week.
The losers, I don't know. I guess you're pretty much
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out of it. Maybe not mathematically but for all intents
and purposes, And they might be already but not yet,
so we're gonna still talk about it. Eight ah eight
eight five five to two nine seven. Irene from Falls Church,
Virginia's first Irene, what's up?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Good morning, good, How are you good? Okay to two questions, Well,
one is the comment. So my biggest concern obviously for
this game coming up, is that I didn't actually realize
the Vikings were this good. But they're like top ten
in defense. I know their offense has been struggling except
for last week, but it reminds me of the Bears game,
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at least when the Bears were given better on defense
and then the Panthers game, so hopefully we can keep
it close and pull it out with having a much
better offense. But you know, let's see. But then I
have a question for not for you, I have a
question for the emplier. When Thursday night rolled around and
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Diggs was not playing, all I could think was Nick
mentioned there's a contract thing here, and are they thinking
that after three wins, maybe we don't need Trayvon. Let's
see if we can do this without him. And so
my question for you, I don't know if you know
all the details of this contract thing, but is it
going to help them? I don't care about their cash.
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I really don't care about their cash, but is it
going to help them with cap savings if they if
he doesn't play, because there could be an argument to
be made that, Okay, well this season. I know we're
still technically in it, but maybe they're they're hedging their
DUTs and they say, hey, if we can save a
little money and make twenty twenty six better because of it,
maybe that's what they think. So if you could comment
on that, that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Thank you so much, real appreciate the call. You're onto
something I think, and I again I don't really know
I don't. I don't know all the details of it.
I've heard about savings on getting money back insurance type
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situation that really it is when you have a guy
that that's been injured and you has he has guaranteed money,
then he had you know, clauses in his contract. You
can get some money back in this case. I haven't,
you know, really dug into that. I've heard that that
that's the situation. But this thing is is kind of
changed over the you know, the last few months. I mean,
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we didn't even know that Trayvon was really gonna go
to IR, and then he goes to IR and then
he's been out for now it's been six games. So
it's more to it than swelling in the knee and
or even a concussion. I there's there's more to this,
and I really wasn't trying to imply some things. I
can dance around the subject a little bit, and that's
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that's what That's what I've I've tried to do because
I don't really understand it. I got asked on the radio,
is he today this morning? Is there a green light
for for Trayvon Diggs this week? And I just said, guys,
it'll be a flashing yellow light regarding him forever. That's
just the way I'm taking it forever. It's always flashing
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yellow caution when I when I'm asked about him, because
I just don't know. I wish I did, I don't.
I'd like to see him out there though, because I
think he's really good, and you know, the best should
play the best, and if Justin Jefferson, what do I
just feel like this is going to be an AJ
Brown type situation where you know, what's wrong with AJ
Brown and then he goes out and has a huge
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game against the Cowboys. I just the same with was
it Harrison Arizona? You know, hadn't had a good game
at all this year? Marvin Harrison Junior goes against the Cowboys.
So yeah, I'm expecting Justin Jefferson to kind of get
back into, uh, you know, the type of the type
of player that that he's he's been. But we'll see.
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All right, let's go to Michael Bowling Green, Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
All right, I got a couple of quick questions in
a score. The questions are that, you know, just like
you just talked about Jefferson, he's a big threat. What
do you think the Cowboys are going to do to
try to slow him down. Maybe Diggs is it there
or the you know what do you think what do
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you think their game plan is going to be to
try to slow him down? And the other question is
with a ten day rest, do you say I think
the running game or get back the Cowboys running game
will get back to where it was in the first
half of the seed.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, well that's that's gonna be the key to anything.
Thanks for the call, Michael. Two good questions. The key
to having that kind of success on offense is to
be balanced, and to be balanced, you've got to run it.
The thing about it is is they they're committed to it.
They still run it. But against the Lions, it was
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there wasn't a lot of success there. You know, two yards,
three yards you just didn't see You didn't just pop
a big run of fifteen yard twenty yards or anything
like that. So that that was that was part of it.
But yeah, they're going to be committed to it. So
for sure, you know, how can they scheme things up
to to be you know a little bit better there?
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And you know, I know it sound like you guys
a little bit when I say this, but you know,
I feel like Hunter Lipke can help, you know, I
feel like he can help a little bit more in
the offense a little bit. I'd like to see him
out there more than Schoonmaker really because I just think
you've got a little bit more flexibility in what you're
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trying to do. They passed the ball to Schoonmaker a lot.
I feel like every time they get the ball into
to Lipkey's hands, he's doing something positive, So I don't know,
And maybe as a lead blocker he can kind of
provide that as well. So I'd like to see him
out there more. And then as far as the defense
goes and how to stop Jefferson, I could just say,
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put on the tape, what are the other teams doing?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean, I mean he's just really you know, he
hasn't had like a great Pro Bowl type year, but
when he looked at the numbers, I mean he ranks
fourteenth and fifteenth, like in catches in yards. I can't
remember which ones at which, but it's like sixty four catches,
eight hundred and ten yards, it's one of them, fourteenth
ones fifteenth, So you know in the NFL, that's where
he is in the NFL. So in the NFC, he's
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probably you know, and that's depending on what those standings,
the rankings look like, but he's probably in you know,
six to seven eight something like that in each one.
So I mean that's kind of on the verge of
Pro Bowl really. So so it's not it hasn't been
a horrible year, but I guarantee if you have him
on your fantasy team, you're probably not loving the production
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of the lack of production from him. Tyler in the
state of Washington, what's up?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
So it's Skyler. So I just curious about Shoddy his
habits in the red zone, Holme Blade. It's kind of
reminisces of being with the Sea Hawks in that twenty
fifteen sixteen Super Bowl, seems like, and I wonder why
he can't break those tendencies of getting away from the
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run and forcing passes and you know, tighter situations than
you know, compared to where how Sorry, but that's just
he just seems to have habits to throw the ball
a lot and within the ten yard line. So that
cost us a couple of games this season.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Uh, I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing you.
Are you saying his his play calling in the red
zone you think has cost some games this year.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, just reministions of like when he was with the
Seahawks in fifteen and sixteen when they caught him the
Super Bowl off the one yard line, they decided the
pass the ball. Yeah, well it just kind of figs
something he learned over time with the coaches he's learned from.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, well, okay, good good stuff there. I don't think
I guess he was he there was he there for
that for the for the Marshawan play. I can't remember
that being the case for him, but maybe he was.
But who doesn't matter here what the cow was not?
(09:57):
I think he was right. He was in eighteen, Yeah,
that's when he started with the with the Seahawks. He
I mean, he was there in eighteen and twenty. Now
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
He was with the Indianapolis Colts in sixteen and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So I had to look at his stuff here. He
was with Georgia in fifteen fifteen, Yeah, and I don't
know about twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Maybe it's just out of football,
but oh no, he was with the Rams. No, he
wasn't He wasn't the coordinator for the Marshawn should have
handed the ball to Marshawn that that wasn't him. But
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here with the Cowboys, I can't say I love the
play calling in the down in the red zone Eagles
game a couple of weeks ago. Didn't cost him in
the game, did not cost him the game obviously, But
you know, it's first and goal in the eight, which
is always tough. Anything first and goal from like eight, nine, ten,
even first and ten at the eleven. It's really tight
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down there. It's hard to score. But on first down
you get six yards with Javonte Williams down to the two. Okay,
that changes things a little bit. Number one, I think
I could run it right down your throat Number two.
It's a four. It's four downs now because now I'm
at the two. On second down, I can get in
and then they threw it three times in a row.
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Make that makes sense. There's been there's been a lot
of that this year where I just feel like Javante
is a good runner where he doesn't get stopped behind
the line of scrimmage that often. He runs hard runs forward,
so getting hit at the one yard line is expected.
But he can lean himself into the end zone. I
don't think they run the ball with him enough down there,
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and and there's been times where I think they get
a little too cute. So I agree with that. But
let's don't put a let's don't put a historic play
on him when that wasn't. But when you're talking about
right now, yeah, I think the red zone play calling
has been you know, it's been it's been questionable at
times this year. But also you know, red zone penalties
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fall start things like that have hurt this team some.
All right, let's go to Lester in Minnesota morning next.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Just I got a couple of points, but I want
to make I want to comment on what we've been
talking about this morning. First of all, yeah, of course,
run that ball more. And let's not be too hard
on shot. This is his first rodeo being a head coach.
I know he's been around for a long, long long
time as an assistant, so let's he needs to learn
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some things. I mean, we all learn things every day,
so this is the first time being a head coach,
so give him a break. But the comments I wanted
to make was, you know, I'm up here in Minnesota, man,
and they freaking out about Jefferson not getting the ball down.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean they are really.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Freaking out, man, the fans, the media up here, everybody man.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That quarterback, you know, I mean, I mean JJ McCarthy
had his best game of his career last week because
it was the first game he hasn't thrown a pick,
so he's been throwing the ball to the other team
a lot.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
And uh with Cowboys, Man, we took a tough loss
of Detroit. I really thought we should win that game.
But hey, we went what three and one those four games.
That's really good.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No one really.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
Expected that when we looked at the schedule on the set,
I think we just need to win out handle our
business and I think we got a decent chance of
making it, and you know, we need some help of course.
And then when one question I have, what's the status
on Guidon?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, okay, thanks for the call, Lester. The Guidon from
what from what I'm hearing is we'll we'll find out
today if he's if he does anything. I think what
it sort of has looked like over the last few
you know, weeks, months or whatever. And every player is different.
But if they don't practice on Wednesday, they usually don't
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play in the game. If you can get them to
limits it on Wednesday and then maybe a full participant
on Thursday or Friday, then that that that you know,
more pushing forward and you know, kind of an upward trajectory.
But if they don't practice today, then you know, we'll
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be surprised if he if he plays, but let's see,
let's just see. Right as this show is airing, it's
it's early, it's still in the morning. On Wednesday, they
practice about you know, twelve one o'clock or so, so
we'll see how it goes. And the injury report comes
out around three. So like to see, like, you know,
like to see him out there again. I think it's
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a close race right now with with him and Nate Thomas.
They both young players that that that need to play,
and I think they're both probably more soon on the
left side. Terrence Steele is okay. On the right side,
I think you know, they can get better there too.
But you know that that I think he's been a
I think he's just you know, the definition of solid.
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I think he's a solid player and he's I don't
think he's going to be a Pro Bowl player, at
least not this year. But he's solid. He makes pretty
good money. I mean, so you'd want a little bit
more than that. But I think he grades out well.
I mean, he has his time, I mean he has
he has issues with those speed rushers sometimes, just like
all of them do. But and neither one of them
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played well in that game last week. They really, you know,
they they really needed CD to stay healthy in that game,
because when you look at what was happening there, one
of two things was going to happen. CD was going
to have two hundred and fifty yards receiving or they
were going to shift things back over to him. And
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then now George Picketts was going to have a huge game,
but they were going to go off and Flinoy came
in and he did his thing too. I obviously rather
have CD, but but you know, that just goes to
show you what kind of success they could have had.
And and you know, let's let's not go too crazy
on that. Well, what's wrong with Pickens. That's that's kind
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of the way the Lions were trying to cover things.
And guess what happened. Guy went for one hundred and
twelve in the first half. Cede Lamb before he got hurt.
Flinoy comes in, he has one hundred and fifteen or
one hundred and ten or whatever yards in the second half.
So you're gonna keep doing that, fine, Flinoy and Cede
Lamb will will continue to eat or whoever it is
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on that other side, and teams won't continue to do that.
So I think you can still have a guy that's
a weapon without him putting up the big yards. And
I understand that doesn't help your fantasy football team, but
there's nothing really wrong with the situation when a guy
has numbers like that, especially when the guys on the
flip side are doing what they do.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Let's go, Hey, what's up, Nick?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 9 (17:05):
Doing good? How about you? Good good? I just kind
of wanted to talk about the upcoming game, a little
bit about our running game.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I like.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
A couple of callers back he was talking a little
bit about how shot he was calling plays in the
red zone, especially getting away from the run. I'm kind
of this team has been frustrating for me, Nick, because
I mean, like with all of us we had we
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were drinking the kool aid a couple of weeks ago
and then this Detroit game happened, and we went back
to all these things that we should have learned about,
you know, when we played Carolina and when we played
the Bears and even Arizona, and I just I can't,
I can't get past that. You know, half of us
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fans that you know, watch a little bit of film.
I mean, we're not professionals, but you know we can
tell certain things that it seems like is getting lost
on this coaching staff, especially on the defensive.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Side, you know.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
And I just don't know how to believe anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
What specific things are you talking about? You're kind of
you kind of va honestly.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah, honestly. Kenneth murray Man, Yeah, he's just not good
at football, dude. And I'm sure he's a great guy.
And I don't want to pile on especially after all
we've been through this year, you know what I mean.
But it's just like every every person that watches this
team with any kind of passion or care knows that
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that this guy, I think Dylan said earlier in the week,
it's almost having a minus one player having him on
the field because he's so unaware and he just plays
with no violence and no no passion, and it's just
I can't keep watching it. I will, but it's just
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hard to watch every week where we keep doing the
same dumb stuff over and over and and and learn
from it. Right. So anyway, that's what I.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Got, all right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, thanks for all you do.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, thanks for the call. I can't argue with you,
I really I'm not. I wouldn't want to there because, uh,
you know, the linebacker situation has been a problem all
season long, and it started out with Kenneth Murray and
Jack Sanborn played in there in the middle. Then by
week three or four, Shamar James comes in. Shamar James
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starts playing. He gets a lot of tackles. He's still
not he's not great because he's a rookie still learning.
But he flies to the ball and sometimes he flies
out of position, but he's he's he's moving around, you know,
and in the trade for for Logan Wilson and then
they get over shown back and so you've you've made
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changes there, changes to the point where you would think
maybe that would cut into Kenneth Murray's time, but it
really hasn't. And we haven't seen a ton of plays there,
maybe a couple tipped passes that led to an interception,
or maybe a tackle for loss here and there. I'm
trying to looking at his stats. You know. There he
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continues to lead the team in tackles. Doesn't always mean
a lot because dround bland a second and that's not
a good thing for your corner. That means they're they're
going after him and he's making the too many tackles.
But you know, you, Kenneth Murray, he's got one sack
and maybe three or four tackles for loss. Not not
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as dynamic and you know, as far as the playmaker goes.
So all right, let's let's go to Mark. He's in Davis, California. Mark.
Speaker 10 (21:03):
Hey, good morning. That's gone on.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Hey, how are you doing well.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
I'm hanging in but thanks man, thanks for asking. Hey, no, listen,
it's a couple of points. I'm just noticing that we
get to improve on definitely. Man, we got to work
on the turnover. The turnover margin man, the world. I
think we're minus eight yeah just here or something. So yeah,
we've got to take care of the ball, man, for sure,
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We'll get down the red zone. Man, We've got to
come up with touchdowns, we gotta get six those still
those aren't cutting it for sure. And then also special teams, Man,
that was that was not good last week. So we
got to really improve on social teams. So but I'm
sure this was other factors in as well. But that's it, man.
I think you hopefully work on those things, but hopefully,
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you know, we've got a better chance of doing better overall.
And my score for the game, uh, I think we
pull it out close. Tough, excuse me, but I think we.
Speaker 11 (22:02):
Pull it out thirty.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
One twenty seven. And yeah, hopefully they could get these
four run that went out and then hopefully the best man,
hope for the best, and hopefully we sneak you in there.
And uh, that's said. But thanks, I'm sticking a car,
have a great one and go Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
All right, thank you. I'll touch on one of those points.
There are special teams. Yeah, Shaddy had said that he
expects of changes there personnel wise. You know, not sure
what all you can do there as far as who's
on your roster. I mean, most of the guys there
that are that are going to play for you on
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special teams have probably already been playing. I mean you
could tweak some things here and there. I think it's
a bigger picture though, honestly than just the personnel. I
think I think we're seeing that with with Turpin not
not really having a lot of you know, a lot
of places to do things. And and you know, you
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go back to Nick Sorens in one of his earlier
press conferences when he first got the job. You know,
he he kind of said something that was I think
he was you know, he was trying to to give
praise to the guys he's inheriting as a coaches. I mean,
think about it. I mean, got Aubrey Anger, Trent Sigg,
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I mean, he's he's a veteran snapper, he doesn't had
any bad snaps. He's he's fine. Turpin's a two time
pro bowler.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
C J.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Goodwins is a really good place. So he kind of
made the thing there's not a lot, you know, I
don't have to do a whole lot here. I just
got to let them do what they do.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But but I think we're kind of seeing too from
a coaching standpoint, especially with a Turpend in the returns.
You know these things, He's not just gonna run out
there and score. You know, it's got to get blocked.
It's got to get and I'm not saying that he
doesn't do that. He was trying to just kind of
throw that out there and say give props to his
guys and that he's got some talented players. But as
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you can see, it needs a little more than that.
And so far this year, whatever it's it hasn't worked
to that point where we've seen some some really you know,
great plays from the return game. We've seen some block kicks,
We've seen some things here and there, some touchdowns, some
some some nice plays on defense, I mean and special teams,
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but from returns game, haven't really seen that this year.
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Speaker 15 (26:31):
Nat you doing good? The great good good? Yeah, my
score get just the way thinking it'll be Cowboys thirty
twenty five. A couple of couple of questions. One is
what's the status on like you know, Digs and Clowney
and CD. And second thing, I just yeah, agree with
(26:55):
dery Bobs. We needed you come up with different either
wanting the ball down at the goal line or the
short quick screens or whatever something like that. But otherwise,
have a good day, calculator.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
All I appreciate it. Digs and uh Clowney CD guid
and I mentioned him earlier, those guys, you know, we'll
see we'll see what happens today on in Wednesday's practice,
I mentioned that before uh CD I think has a
shot to play. That's something that Schottenheimer had said earlier,
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that that the having these extra days with the concussion.
That's the first thing I thought of was when when
he when he was on the ground, I was like, this,
this looks like a concussion and you got ten days
to the next game. Because I think gone are the days.
And I could be wrong here, but gone are the
days where it's seven day, seven days for concussion. I mean,
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that really hasn't been the case. And it's actually been
two games, if not more in certain cases. So I
think it was a very I think CD was was
was disappointed that he was getting pulled out of that game.
I think he thought he could go. They just don't
(28:13):
risk it anymore. I mean, if you're if you're a
little woozy, you're done. That's just the way it's it's been.
And I you know, I can't say I disagree with
that at all. I mean, but but that's just the
way that it is. Now with ten days, maybe he's
got he's got a better shot here to to come
back and play in this game. As for the other guys,
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let's just kind of see how the injury report goes out.
They're they're all a little fifty to fifty, but we'll
see if they can get out there and practice. And
then I'll make this point about your running game. And
we talked about in the in the red zone there.
You know, when you draft Tyler Smith in twenty fourth
I think he was he was a guard that you know,
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tackle that could play guard maybe tackle, but they didn't
know exactly where to be, but they knew he had
the strength to play inside. You draft bb in the
third round, and then you draft Booker twelfth overall. So
you should be a team that could run the football
right up the middle in the red zone, late in
the game, run out the clock. You should be that
(29:20):
kind of team and eventually that that's that's got to
be the goal is to play that that style of
football with those guys. If not, then you don't. You
don't draft Booker twelfth overall. If he can't be a guy.
That's why you get a guard in the first round.
Says he needs to be somebody that could just move
people off the Ballate Nate Kneton used to say it
(29:41):
all the time. There would be games where he would
be lining up right in front of his his guy
and he'd be like, hey, it's coming right here. I'm
going to hit you. Moose is coming behind me, and
then Emmett stop it, and they couldn't. That's what this
team has to get back to. It's got to get
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to that point where you get down in the red zone,
stop us because we're going to run the ball. We're
going to move you off the ball. And that's what
I think has got to get you know, and you
can't do it every single play, but you do it
enough the play accident. That's where you're tied in just
sitting there basically calling a fair catch a real fair catch,
(30:23):
not one where you fake the fair catch, since faking
the fair catch is a thing now. Dylan, Northport, Florida,
what's up, man, Dylan?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Hey, how you doing, dude?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
How you doing? Man? We're doing this?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Sorry, I just I just cut in.
Speaker 16 (30:42):
I couldn't hear anything on the phone. I'm here, I'm here,
all right.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
That's sorry.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
That's on being being said. It's on me being with
the with the my bad.
Speaker 16 (30:52):
We will forgive you, Chris, definitely.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Don't you hate. And this is not not a beam
thing saying. In football, when a guy drops a pass
or like Tyler Goyiton did it where he like a
false start at the one and he's like, my bad, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we see it.
Speaker 16 (31:09):
Man, guy like, hey, Guidon might have got tricked though
it might have been an Eagles defender and on his defense, right,
you ever get that one figured out?
Speaker 9 (31:18):
Was that dact that that did that?
Speaker 16 (31:19):
You know, the the meet him jump or was that
an Eagle defender yelling something out oh.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Defense? Yeah, well yeah screamed and he jumped, so.
Speaker 16 (31:29):
The ref needed to say my bad then on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, I don't know how they ever call that, honestly,
Like the ref isn't there the ref I mean, he's
not lined up right there. I don't know how they
ever called that where they the guys are barking signals
and all that. It's it's that's crazy. It's crazy to
me why the defense couldn't be able to do that.
Get the offense. The quarterback could change his Caten's up
and all that. Oh well, anyways, what you get.
Speaker 16 (31:57):
I saw some people talking about how if shot and him,
if the Cowboys don't make the playoffs, then Schottenheimer's first
season will have been a failure. And I couldn't disagree
more with that. I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 11 (32:09):
You know, it's the first.
Speaker 16 (32:12):
It does sound like something an Eagles people would say,
but it's Cowboys fans saying it, and it's silly. It's
silly because you can't he's a first year head coach.
I think I look back and in the history of
the NFL, two first year head coaches went to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
That was it.
Speaker 16 (32:27):
In all the years the NFL has existed, that was it.
So it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
So measure success.
Speaker 16 (32:33):
People don't like to get into the nitty gritty and
look past the low hanging fruit, right, and we see
with the Jerry blame all the time. I think that's ridiculous.
Most of the time up that he's blameless, but I
think that's lazy and ridiculous. And I think this is
lazy and ridiculous because he's laying a foundation and you're
seeing things that you didn't see with the last administration.
You're seeing hold players accountable, they're restarting practices. How many
times last season did you see players and the coach
(32:55):
come out after a game say, yeah, we had a
bad week of practice. That doesn't happen apparent and Leander Schoenheimer.
So far, he's not letting it happen, so that's good.
He's holding guys accountable with Steede and Pickens, you know,
holding them out of the first series, like he's he's
building a culture here and starting something fresh. And anybody
that like really realistically looked at this team and the
roster and the holes they had, they knew this probably
(33:16):
unless something crazy happened, this wasn't going to be a
super Bowl year. That would have been insane unless they
got lucky, kind of like the CA Spanders the last
year on their big playoff run. So I think this
is a big step in the right direction season. I
think it's a culture foundational season, and I really think
with a good free agency and offseason next year, none
of this season's over by any stretch. There's still some
way to go, but I think they're well on their
(33:37):
way to being a real contender potentially next season. Undershotenheimer
depends what they do at DC though, And I guess
I can call later on and talk about that guy,
but that's a conversation I guess for another time.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, all right, hey, Dylan, I appreciate the call and
I think you you're onto something there. I don't know
who all says that, and you know that's just frustrated
and talk. But you got to remember this. As soon
as that trade was completed, that trade, not any of
the other six or seven. I'm talking about that one.
As soon as that was completed, I think all bets
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were off of what we could really evaluate Schottenheimer this
year because think about how the trade was set up.
It wasn't just for Kenny Clark. I mean, that wasn't
the deal. The deal was for two first round picks
won this year. I mean one in twenty six, one
in twenty seven. That's the deal. So you traded away
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a top five player in the NFL, one of the
best at his position, and he's having it. He's playing
great in Green Bay, and you miss him here because
you haven't replaced him so and it's been a problem.
So you traded that guy basically for two first round picks.
I know Kenny Clark was here, but he hasn't been
a difference maker and come with the terms of this defense.
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So he's a piece of it, but not a big
huge part. And they haven't changed things around. But so
you can't evaluate really. I mean, that's that's what it was.
This was a future move and so he's the head coach.
He's not going anywhere. But I mean, you know, you
took away his best player and and for for two
guys that aren't even here yet. Now they did flip
(35:14):
one and they got Quinnon Williams and we've seen a
change and you're still going to get another one. But
yet we haven't seen what the trade hasn't come out yet,
so I don't know how you can really fully evaluate
what he's done. That's just my opinion. I think there's
been some good things. There's been some culture changes. You
don't change culture overnight, you don't. You have to change
(35:35):
it over the course of the season. I think he's
in the process of doing that. I think this team
has plays hard for him. They they've they've done a
good job. Now he he's learned some things. I think
what Lester said way back in earlier on the show
about you know, he's first year head coach and you've
got to give him a little bit of time to
do that and learn some things. He's been around a lot,
(35:56):
but not necessarily doing it all. He's been he's been
an off if it's a coordinator before, but he hasn't
been the guy to decide things on defense and you know,
when when when to do this and that and take
this guy out of the game and all all these
kind of things. So he's learning, and I think the
Cowboys are definitely patient with him. And you know, as
a guy that was not the best student in school,
(36:19):
I believe. I mean, if you fail, you fail. But
there's d's and their c's and b's and a's, uh
and uh, you know, I don't think he's going to
be It's not going to be a failure for him.
You don't make it to the playoff, he I mean,
they didn't. They'll fail at their goals like twenty other
teams will, but I don't think it will be a
(36:40):
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that's been trying to build this thing. All right, let's
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Rob in Vegas, what's up? I hear you want?
Speaker 11 (38:23):
You can't disagree more with you and my boy Dylan.
Why if this team doesn't make the playoffs, it's a failure.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Okay, all right? That and that and that's that's the
way people think. That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 17 (38:37):
That day.
Speaker 11 (38:38):
That is professional football.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
This team.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What what is a failure though? What see you're answering
different things. What is a failure? The season?
Speaker 11 (38:47):
Not not not making the playoffsky?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Fine?
Speaker 11 (38:51):
This steps steps in the season. The first step is
that's fine. You have to have enough wins to get
into the tournament.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
That how it works.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
That's how it works. And if you don't make it,
it's a failure, especially when you got the highest paid quarterback,
you got the third highest paid wide receiver, the highest
paid guard. You brought in George Pickens, and.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I get it. So that Okay, they don't make the playoffs,
who's your coach next year? Then who's your head goat Well.
Speaker 11 (39:21):
That's that's that's meaningless because he's got a contract. Somebody
fires coaches after one year.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
They could.
Speaker 11 (39:31):
No, they could, but listen it doesn't mean that Shoddy
can't be better the following year. But it's a failure. Okay,
it's a failure. This team will make the playoffs. And
if you interviewed the players if it happens, they would
say that. I hope they would say that.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah. I think we're just you're arguing two different things.
You're arguing two different things.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
It's another thing. Another thing Dylan said was he said,
as fans, we didn't expect the Cowboys to be a
playoff team.
Speaker 14 (40:06):
I did.
Speaker 11 (40:07):
You brought in George Pickens, so now you had two
number one wide receivers. You improved your offensive line supposedly
by drafting Booker, you got a running back. Now. I
didn't expect them to trade the best defensive player in
the league, which blew up the season, honestly, because if
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you would have kept Micah and kept the team exactly
the same, you don't have Kenny Clark because that never happens.
But then you go trade for Quinn Williams, which you
still could have did. Could you imagine Quinn Williams and
Micah on this team right now, this team, this defense
would be unstoppable. So I have to blame Jerry because
(40:54):
it was Jerry that made the move. It's Jerry's the
one constant in the last thirty years, We've had one
hundred coaches, quarterbacks, this, that, and the other thing. So yes,
he gets all the blame because he's the GM too.
So I just I just disagree.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I I this team.
Speaker 11 (41:17):
What's weird is we expect them now to go on
a run. We're expecting them to win four in a
row and get to the get to the playoffs. That's
but yet before the season, we didn't expect that and
we had Micah. So I'm just a little confused with that.
This team was good enough. This team should be, should
(41:41):
have made should make the playoffs, should have made the playoffs.
And I'm sorry if this team falls short, it's a failure.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
It just is. Yeah, Okay, thanks thanks for the call. Rob.
I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. I feel like
you're changing the uh. I think you're you're you're kind
of moving the goalpost a little bit here because uh
you what Dylan. I think what Dylan was saying was
(42:12):
was that that Shody was considered it was a failure
on him. I get what your goal is. Your goal
is to make the playoffs, and if you don't make it,
you fell short of that. It was a failure for
for for making that goal, but it's not a failure
for building something. And when you take your best player
and you move it to next year, then obviously that
(42:35):
is where some of the focus is, not all of it.
You still want to win the games, but some of
your focuses and some of your priorities were pushed to
next year or you wouldn't have made the trade.
Speaker 17 (42:44):
So I get it.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
And who made the trade? Jerry made the trade. And
then that's how you started talking about Jerry. Fine, this
was about Shody. That was the original part was about Shody.
Can this guy be your head coach?
Speaker 17 (42:59):
Is he?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
That was the decision that was made that no one liked,
including myself. No one liked that move now looking at
it now, just from that standpoint, Is he the guy
that you think can turn this around and get them
where they want to go with a full roster, with
with you know, with great players at at all positions. Yeah,
I think I think he can. That's what the evaluation was.
(43:24):
And I don't you know this thing got changed to
you know, how you believe in seasons, Is it a
failure and all that stuff, And maybe I'm the wrong
guy for that because when I started my first four
years working here, I saw eight and eight playoffs, but
then I saw three, five and elevens. So maybe I
have a different opinion about what a failure is and
all that. I mean, yeah, you want to make the playoffs,
(43:46):
you want to win the super Bowl, all that, because
I guarantee you there are people out there that say,
if you don't win the super Bowl, that's a failure.
Let's go to Bruce in Houston.
Speaker 14 (43:56):
Nick, so well, Rob can get under your skin and
a hurry brother.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Good, No, I love it. That's that's good. That's good.
As I told Rob, is the guy shooting baskets in
the pool when the little fluting goal, the goals moving,
that's not what we were talking about. It was over here.
Now you moved over here. And I love Rob and
robbed that I.
Speaker 17 (44:22):
Know.
Speaker 14 (44:23):
And he's from Vegas to right, So that that's my guy,
all right, And you know you stole my thunder because
that's what I was gonna say. Well, Rob, according to
your analogy there, then the whoever lost the super Bowl
that year was an utter failure you know, next season.
Speaker 11 (44:38):
And that is true some people.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Some people say that the question is can Scotty is
Shoty the right guy? Is he on the right path
for a guy that no one liked this move? Here
we are almost a full season in. Is he the
guy that that that can, that can turn this around fully?
And I think I think so. I think he's it's
been a good hire. That's really what the pust is.
He's just been a good hire.
Speaker 14 (45:01):
I think so too, And I agree a couple of callers, well, Dylan,
he mentioned that he's creating a culture, and that's that's
that's what you need. Those guys. We got to remember
these guys are twenty two and twenty three year they're
just kids. I mean, of course they can say that
when I'm in my sixties, but they're still kids. Even
though they're grown giant men, they're still young young men
(45:23):
that still need to be developed. And I hate to
say it, he's partially right there because Jerry did hire
eber Flus before or well, I mean, you know, it
seemed like he didn't get the higher's defensive coordinator and
that's kind of why I called do you think if?
And I don't want him to be fired because you
hate to start over on another defensive coordinator. But is
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there a defensive coordinator were I was listening to the
Talking Cowboys before and they were talking about Brian Flores,
what a innovator he is and how he uses it
almost like a almost like a almost like a Bimmerman?
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Did is is he?
Speaker 14 (46:04):
Would he be that type of coach to to coach
the It depends on the players we have, you know,
are they zone players? Are they press covers?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
You know?
Speaker 14 (46:12):
Pick pick a lane, so to speak. But talk a
little bit about I hope he doesn't get fired. I
think they need some continuity. What would Jerry let uh shot?
He pick his own defensive corner? I should go. But
I think this team is in the right direction. I
I love the trade. It's going to be curious to
see what their two number one picks are going to be.
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And I like our cornerbacks. Caylin Carson was playing pretty good,
and I like to see what Rebel is gonna do.
This is like pre season for him, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Anyway, all right, thanks for the call. I'm sorry to
cut you off. We got one more caller, I'll say
this about the defensive coordinator part. You know, they have
a coordinator here, so I'm not going to get into
what they're going to do unless unless there is a
change made. I'll say this though, that if shot shot
he calls plays on offense, he has got to be
in tune with the defensive coordinator one thousand percent. He's
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got to believe what that guy believes. And if they
have differences of opinion, and I'm not saying they do
or don't, I'm just saying, if there, that has to
be number one. Uh, he's got to know, Hey, I'm
dealing with the offensive guys here and on what this
last series was like. But I hope the hell that
he's blitzing here two times on the on this series,
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or or we're playing a prevent or whatever it is.
He's got to know that his defensive coordinator has this
back there and and if that's the case with Flu's fine,
they'll get better here in the year two. If that's
not the case, then that's really what Shoddy needs. Let's
go Eric in Arkansas. One more one more caller, Eric.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Hey, how's it going good?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I'm pretty good first time caller, so I just wanted
to get on and I just got here.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
We go all right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah. No, I'm not a big hope on a state.
So I got two things.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
One thanks for the win. That was the last one.
With that, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
I got two things. Won the Parson deal. I don't
think we were going to actually, you know, we couldn't
afford them. And now, if we were to pay Parson
forty seven million, everybody said we would have overpaid him,
you know what I mean. But for green Bay, I
guess that's a good thing. Two Parson, when he was
on the team for four years, our defense still won
a ranked in the top ten or five or ten.
(48:24):
We were still giving up the run, still giving up
almost three hundred yards against Green Bay in the playoff game,
he had one tackle. So you know, I can't I
can't say Parson really losing parts really hurt the defense.
For that fact, I've seen with Parson on the team,
I defense still won rank. Now do you can put
Williams with that, It's a different story, you know what
(48:44):
I mean. That's a totally difference. But when we go
after Williams, if we still kept Parson, as we paid
forty seven million. You're right exactly exactly. You see what
I'm saying. So we were still being in the same situation.
Can't stop the run. Now our defensive scheme now we
got press corners. Yeah, and we're playing him his own Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
I don't think they would have made that trade because
you would have had to trade next year as one
and or or the one in twenty twenty seven and
a second.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
And I don't think yeah exactly, you know, so are
sports would you have needed that?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
I mean seriously, though, if you've got Osa that you
paid and and and you have Michael on the outside,
But I think what your point you're saying is and
we kind of have to go. Are you saying that, like,
even if you would have kept Micah, you still have
problems on defense.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Absolutely, okay, yeah, fair linebackers and everything else. Yeah, we've
had major problems.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, and maybe other other issues too.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
And yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't the most well liked person
in the world. Now is that is that? Does that
mean trade him? No, that's not the reason you trade him.
But you know he wasn't You know that there were
issues there, There were there were issues, and there's gonna
be issues with Green Bay too. That's just who he is.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, but yeah, well go ahead, I will say this,
Emmy cuts you off. But here's the thing too, when
he laid on the table, I knew it was over.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
It was over. I one hundred percent agree, And I
wrote that in my column that on the table, when
we went on the table, you don't do that. You
don't do that. And what you're showing is is that
if it's not about me, I don't care. There were
young defensive ends, young defensive players that look up to him,
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that that was their shot. They were playing. They were
playing for their career right there. And if some guy
that you don't you've never heard of, gets a sack,
that means a lot. He could be on the practice squad.
I've seen Jesse Holly make a career because he made
a play in the last preseason game. And Micah Parsons
is falling asleep because he's bored. That's not a team guy.
(50:45):
Get him out of here. And that's what they did.
Once that happened, it was over over and all right,
we gotta we gotta roll.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
It was great talking to you. Thanks for the first time,
call make sure and call back. Guys, great show, good
good stuff.
Speaker 11 (50:58):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
You know you're my guy. You know you're my guy.
We just argue to argue sometimes, Dylan, thanks for kind
of setting that up and all that good stuff today.
Glad to have a full show. If you know, you know,
We'll see you tomorrow for Chris Bean, I'm Nicki Eatman.
See you on the Cowboys storyline.
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Cowboys take on the Minnesota Vikings Sunday Night on NBC
Sunday Night Football at at and T Stadium. You know,
(00:39):
you always wonder when they when the league puts out
these games like that, and uh, you know, is this
gonna be one of those those big, big time matchups
and you know there might be some over there at
NBC that's like, oh, I wish this game was a
little bit more meaningful. But first of all, it is
the Cowboys, and we know what the Cowboys can draw big,
(01:00):
big numbers. But in this kind of what what December
football is all about, you know, survive in advanced type thing,
hang on for dear life. You can't get more of
a desperation type game. This is the Desperation Bowl between
the the Vikings and the Cowboys. I looked at the
standings and bottom two teams in the NFC that are
(01:21):
still they don't have that asterisk, you know, they haven't
been eliminated yet, Vikings and Cowboys. So they're they're they're
hanging on the winner of this game. If there is
a winner. I guess we have to always qualify that.
But the winner of this game will will, you know,
at least be in decent shape again for the next week.
The losers, I don't know. I guess you're pretty much
(01:42):
out of it. Maybe not mathematically but for all intents
and purposes, And they might be already but not yet,
so we're gonna still talk about it. Eight ah eight
eight five five to two nine seven. Irene from Falls Church,
Virginia's first Irene, what's up?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Good morning, good, How are you good? Okay to two questions, Well,
one is the comment. So my biggest concern obviously for
this game coming up, is that I didn't actually realize
the Vikings were this good. But they're like top ten
in defense. I know their offense has been struggling except
for last week, but it reminds me of the Bears game,
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at least when the Bears were given better on defense
and then the Panthers game, so hopefully we can keep
it close and pull it out with having a much
better offense. But you know, let's see. But then I
have a question for not for you, I have a
question for the emplier. When Thursday night rolled around and
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Diggs was not playing, all I could think was Nick
mentioned there's a contract thing here, and are they thinking
that after three wins, maybe we don't need Trayvon. Let's
see if we can do this without him. And so
my question for you, I don't know if you know
all the details of this contract thing, but is it
going to help them? I don't care about their cash.
(02:58):
I really don't care about their cash, but is it
going to help them with cap savings if they if
he doesn't play, because there could be an argument to
be made that, Okay, well this season. I know we're
still technically in it, but maybe they're they're hedging their
DUTs and they say, hey, if we can save a
little money and make twenty twenty six better because of it,
maybe that's what they think. So if you could comment
on that, that'd be great.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Thank you so much, real appreciate the call. You're onto
something I think, and I again I don't really know
I don't. I don't know all the details of it.
I've heard about savings on getting money back insurance type
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situation that really it is when you have a guy
that that's been injured and you has he has guaranteed money,
then he had you know, clauses in his contract. You
can get some money back in this case. I haven't,
you know, really dug into that. I've heard that that
that's the situation. But this thing is is kind of
changed over the you know, the last few months. I mean,
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we didn't even know that Trayvon was really gonna go
to IR, and then he goes to IR and then
he's been out for now it's been six games. So
it's more to it than swelling in the knee and
or even a concussion. I there's there's more to this,
and I really wasn't trying to imply some things. I
can dance around the subject a little bit, and that's
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that's what That's what I've I've tried to do because
I don't really understand it. I got asked on the radio,
is he today this morning? Is there a green light
for for Trayvon Diggs this week? And I just said, guys,
it'll be a flashing yellow light regarding him forever. That's
just the way I'm taking it forever. It's always flashing
(04:45):
yellow caution when I when I'm asked about him, because
I just don't know. I wish I did, I don't.
I'd like to see him out there though, because I
think he's really good, and you know, the best should
play the best, and if Justin Jefferson, what do I
just feel like this is going to be an AJ
Brown type situation where you know, what's wrong with AJ
Brown and then he goes out and has a huge
(05:06):
game against the Cowboys. I just the same with was
it Harrison Arizona? You know, hadn't had a good game
at all this year? Marvin Harrison Junior goes against the Cowboys.
So yeah, I'm expecting Justin Jefferson to kind of get
back into, uh, you know, the type of the type
of player that that he's he's been. But we'll see.
(05:27):
All right, let's go to Michael Bowling Green, Kentucky.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
All right, I got a couple of quick questions in
a score. The questions are that, you know, just like
you just talked about Jefferson, he's a big threat. What
do you think the Cowboys are going to do to
try to slow him down. Maybe Diggs is it there
or the you know what do you think what do
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you think their game plan is going to be to
try to slow him down? And the other question is
with a ten day rest, do you say I think
the running game or get back the Cowboys running game
will get back to where it was in the first
half of the seed.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, well that's that's gonna be the key to anything.
Thanks for the call, Michael. Two good questions. The key
to having that kind of success on offense is to
be balanced, and to be balanced, you've got to run it.
The thing about it is is they they're committed to it.
They still run it. But against the Lions, it was
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there wasn't a lot of success there. You know, two yards,
three yards you just didn't see You didn't just pop
a big run of fifteen yard twenty yards or anything
like that. So that that was that was part of it.
But yeah, they're going to be committed to it. So
for sure, you know, how can they scheme things up
to to be you know a little bit better there?
(06:48):
And you know, I know it sound like you guys
a little bit when I say this, but you know,
I feel like Hunter Lipke can help, you know, I
feel like he can help a little bit more in
the offense a little bit. I'd like to see him
out there more than Schoonmaker really because I just think
you've got a little bit more flexibility in what you're
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trying to do. They passed the ball to Schoonmaker a lot.
I feel like every time they get the ball into
to Lipkey's hands, he's doing something positive, So I don't know,
And maybe as a lead blocker he can kind of
provide that as well. So I'd like to see him
out there more. And then as far as the defense
goes and how to stop Jefferson, I could just say,
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put on the tape, what are the other teams doing?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean, I mean he's just really you know, he
hasn't had like a great Pro Bowl type year, but
when he looked at the numbers, I mean he ranks
fourteenth and fifteenth, like in catches in yards. I can't
remember which ones at which, but it's like sixty four catches,
eight hundred and ten yards, it's one of them, fourteenth
ones fifteenth, So you know in the NFL, that's where
he is in the NFL. So in the NFC, he's
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probably you know, and that's depending on what those standings,
the rankings look like, but he's probably in you know,
six to seven eight something like that in each one.
So I mean that's kind of on the verge of
Pro Bowl really. So so it's not it hasn't been
a horrible year, but I guarantee if you have him
on your fantasy team, you're probably not loving the production
(08:19):
of the lack of production from him. Tyler in the
state of Washington, what's up?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
So it's Skyler. So I just curious about Shoddy his
habits in the red zone, Holme Blade. It's kind of
reminisces of being with the Sea Hawks in that twenty
fifteen sixteen Super Bowl, seems like, and I wonder why
he can't break those tendencies of getting away from the
(08:49):
run and forcing passes and you know, tighter situations than
you know, compared to where how Sorry, but that's just
he just seems to have habits to throw the ball
a lot and within the ten yard line. So that
cost us a couple of games this season.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Uh, I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time hearing you.
Are you saying his his play calling in the red
zone you think has cost some games this year.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Yeah, just reministions of like when he was with the
Seahawks in fifteen and sixteen when they caught him the
Super Bowl off the one yard line, they decided the
pass the ball. Yeah, well it just kind of figs
something he learned over time with the coaches he's learned from.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, well, okay, good good stuff there. I don't think
I guess he was he there was he there for
that for the for the Marshawan play. I can't remember
that being the case for him, but maybe he was.
But who doesn't matter here what the cow was not?
(09:57):
I think he was right. He was in eighteen, Yeah,
that's when he started with the with the Seahawks. He
I mean, he was there in eighteen and twenty. Now
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
He was with the Indianapolis Colts in sixteen and seventeen.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So I had to look at his stuff here. He
was with Georgia in fifteen fifteen, Yeah, and I don't
know about twelve, thirteen, fourteen. Maybe it's just out of football,
but oh no, he was with the Rams. No, he
wasn't He wasn't the coordinator for the Marshawn should have
handed the ball to Marshawn that that wasn't him. But
(10:31):
here with the Cowboys, I can't say I love the
play calling in the down in the red zone Eagles
game a couple of weeks ago. Didn't cost him in
the game, did not cost him the game obviously, But
you know, it's first and goal in the eight, which
is always tough. Anything first and goal from like eight, nine, ten,
even first and ten at the eleven. It's really tight
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down there. It's hard to score. But on first down
you get six yards with Javonte Williams down to the two. Okay,
that changes things a little bit. Number one, I think
I could run it right down your throat Number two.
It's a four. It's four downs now because now I'm
at the two. On second down, I can get in
and then they threw it three times in a row.
(11:14):
Make that makes sense. There's been there's been a lot
of that this year where I just feel like Javante
is a good runner where he doesn't get stopped behind
the line of scrimmage that often. He runs hard runs forward,
so getting hit at the one yard line is expected.
But he can lean himself into the end zone. I
don't think they run the ball with him enough down there,
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and and there's been times where I think they get
a little too cute. So I agree with that. But
let's don't put a let's don't put a historic play
on him when that wasn't. But when you're talking about
right now, yeah, I think the red zone play calling
has been you know, it's been it's been questionable at
times this year. But also you know, red zone penalties
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fall start things like that have hurt this team some.
All right, let's go to Lester in Minnesota morning next.
Speaker 8 (12:13):
Just I got a couple of points, but I want
to make I want to comment on what we've been
talking about this morning. First of all, yeah, of course,
run that ball more. And let's not be too hard
on shot. This is his first rodeo being a head coach.
I know he's been around for a long, long long
time as an assistant, so let's he needs to learn
(12:33):
some things. I mean, we all learn things every day,
so this is the first time being a head coach,
so give him a break. But the comments I wanted
to make was, you know, I'm up here in Minnesota, man,
and they freaking out about Jefferson not getting the ball down.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I mean they are really.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Freaking out, man, the fans, the media up here, everybody man.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
That quarterback, you know, I mean, I mean JJ McCarthy
had his best game of his career last week because
it was the first game he hasn't thrown a pick,
so he's been throwing the ball to the other team
a lot.
Speaker 8 (13:14):
And uh with Cowboys, Man, we took a tough loss
of Detroit. I really thought we should win that game.
But hey, we went what three and one those four games.
That's really good.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No one really.
Speaker 8 (13:26):
Expected that when we looked at the schedule on the set,
I think we just need to win out handle our
business and I think we got a decent chance of
making it, and you know, we need some help of course.
And then when one question I have, what's the status
on Guidon?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, okay, thanks for the call, Lester. The Guidon from
what from what I'm hearing is we'll we'll find out
today if he's if he does anything. I think what
it sort of has looked like over the last few
you know, weeks, months or whatever. And every player is different.
But if they don't practice on Wednesday, they usually don't
(14:09):
play in the game. If you can get them to
limits it on Wednesday and then maybe a full participant
on Thursday or Friday, then that that that you know,
more pushing forward and you know, kind of an upward trajectory.
But if they don't practice today, then you know, we'll
(14:29):
be surprised if he if he plays, but let's see,
let's just see. Right as this show is airing, it's
it's early, it's still in the morning. On Wednesday, they
practice about you know, twelve one o'clock or so, so
we'll see how it goes. And the injury report comes
out around three. So like to see, like, you know,
like to see him out there again. I think it's
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a close race right now with with him and Nate Thomas.
They both young players that that that need to play,
and I think they're both probably more soon on the
left side. Terrence Steele is okay. On the right side,
I think you know, they can get better there too.
But you know that that I think he's been a
I think he's just you know, the definition of solid.
(15:13):
I think he's a solid player and he's I don't
think he's going to be a Pro Bowl player, at
least not this year. But he's solid. He makes pretty
good money. I mean, so you'd want a little bit
more than that. But I think he grades out well.
I mean, he has his time, I mean he has
he has issues with those speed rushers sometimes, just like
all of them do. But and neither one of them
(15:36):
played well in that game last week. They really, you know,
they they really needed CD to stay healthy in that game,
because when you look at what was happening there, one
of two things was going to happen. CD was going
to have two hundred and fifty yards receiving or they
were going to shift things back over to him. And
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then now George Picketts was going to have a huge game,
but they were going to go off and Flinoy came
in and he did his thing too. I obviously rather
have CD, but but you know, that just goes to
show you what kind of success they could have had.
And and you know, let's let's not go too crazy
on that. Well, what's wrong with Pickens. That's that's kind
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of the way the Lions were trying to cover things.
And guess what happened. Guy went for one hundred and
twelve in the first half. Cede Lamb before he got hurt.
Flinoy comes in, he has one hundred and fifteen or
one hundred and ten or whatever yards in the second half.
So you're gonna keep doing that, fine, Flinoy and Cede
Lamb will will continue to eat or whoever it is
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on that other side, and teams won't continue to do that.
So I think you can still have a guy that's
a weapon without him putting up the big yards. And
I understand that doesn't help your fantasy football team, but
there's nothing really wrong with the situation when a guy
has numbers like that, especially when the guys on the
flip side are doing what they do.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Let's go, Hey, what's up, Nick?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 9 (17:05):
Doing good? How about you? Good good? I just kind
of wanted to talk about the upcoming game, a little
bit about our running game.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I like.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
A couple of callers back he was talking a little
bit about how shot he was calling plays in the
red zone, especially getting away from the run. I'm kind
of this team has been frustrating for me, Nick, because
I mean, like with all of us we had we
(17:39):
were drinking the kool aid a couple of weeks ago
and then this Detroit game happened, and we went back
to all these things that we should have learned about,
you know, when we played Carolina and when we played
the Bears and even Arizona, and I just I can't,
I can't get past that. You know, half of us
(18:01):
fans that you know, watch a little bit of film.
I mean, we're not professionals, but you know we can
tell certain things that it seems like is getting lost
on this coaching staff, especially on the defensive.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Side, you know.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
And I just don't know how to believe anymore.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
What specific things are you talking about? You're kind of
you kind of va honestly.
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Yeah, honestly. Kenneth murray Man, Yeah, he's just not good
at football, dude. And I'm sure he's a great guy.
And I don't want to pile on especially after all
we've been through this year, you know what I mean.
But it's just like every every person that watches this
team with any kind of passion or care knows that
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that this guy, I think Dylan said earlier in the week,
it's almost having a minus one player having him on
the field because he's so unaware and he just plays
with no violence and no no passion, and it's just
I can't keep watching it. I will, but it's just
(19:05):
hard to watch every week where we keep doing the
same dumb stuff over and over and and and learn
from it. Right. So anyway, that's what I.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Got, all right, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, thanks for all you do.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, thanks for the call. I can't argue with you,
I really I'm not. I wouldn't want to there because, uh,
you know, the linebacker situation has been a problem all
season long, and it started out with Kenneth Murray and
Jack Sanborn played in there in the middle. Then by
week three or four, Shamar James comes in. Shamar James
(19:44):
starts playing. He gets a lot of tackles. He's still
not he's not great because he's a rookie still learning.
But he flies to the ball and sometimes he flies
out of position, but he's he's he's moving around, you know,
and in the trade for for Logan Wilson and then
they get over shown back and so you've you've made
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changes there, changes to the point where you would think
maybe that would cut into Kenneth Murray's time, but it
really hasn't. And we haven't seen a ton of plays there,
maybe a couple tipped passes that led to an interception,
or maybe a tackle for loss here and there. I'm
trying to looking at his stats. You know. There he
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continues to lead the team in tackles. Doesn't always mean
a lot because dround bland a second and that's not
a good thing for your corner. That means they're they're
going after him and he's making the too many tackles.
But you know, you, Kenneth Murray, he's got one sack
and maybe three or four tackles for loss. Not not
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as dynamic and you know, as far as the playmaker goes.
So all right, let's let's go to Mark. He's in Davis, California. Mark.
Speaker 10 (21:03):
Hey, good morning. That's gone on.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Hey, how are you doing well.
Speaker 10 (21:07):
I'm hanging in but thanks man, thanks for asking. Hey, no, listen,
it's a couple of points. I'm just noticing that we
get to improve on definitely. Man, we got to work
on the turnover. The turnover margin man, the world. I
think we're minus eight yeah just here or something. So yeah,
we've got to take care of the ball, man, for sure,
(21:28):
We'll get down the red zone. Man, We've got to
come up with touchdowns, we gotta get six those still
those aren't cutting it for sure. And then also special teams, Man,
that was that was not good last week. So we
got to really improve on social teams. So but I'm
sure this was other factors in as well. But that's it, man.
I think you hopefully work on those things, but hopefully,
(21:51):
you know, we've got a better chance of doing better overall.
And my score for the game, uh, I think we
pull it out close. Tough, excuse me, but I think we.
Speaker 11 (22:02):
Pull it out thirty.
Speaker 10 (22:04):
One twenty seven. And yeah, hopefully they could get these
four run that went out and then hopefully the best man,
hope for the best, and hopefully we sneak you in there.
And uh, that's said. But thanks, I'm sticking a car,
have a great one and go Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
All right, thank you. I'll touch on one of those points.
There are special teams. Yeah, Shaddy had said that he
expects of changes there personnel wise. You know, not sure
what all you can do there as far as who's
on your roster. I mean, most of the guys there
that are that are going to play for you on
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special teams have probably already been playing. I mean you
could tweak some things here and there. I think it's
a bigger picture though, honestly than just the personnel. I
think I think we're seeing that with with Turpin not
not really having a lot of you know, a lot
of places to do things. And and you know, you
(23:07):
go back to Nick Sorens in one of his earlier
press conferences when he first got the job. You know,
he he kind of said something that was I think
he was you know, he was trying to to give
praise to the guys he's inheriting as a coaches. I mean,
think about it. I mean, got Aubrey Anger, Trent Sigg,
(23:27):
I mean, he's he's a veteran snapper, he doesn't had
any bad snaps. He's he's fine. Turpin's a two time
pro bowler.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
C J.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Goodwins is a really good place. So he kind of
made the thing there's not a lot, you know, I
don't have to do a whole lot here. I just
got to let them do what they do.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
But but I think we're kind of seeing too from
a coaching standpoint, especially with a Turpend in the returns.
You know these things, He's not just gonna run out
there and score. You know, it's got to get blocked.
It's got to get and I'm not saying that he
doesn't do that. He was trying to just kind of
throw that out there and say give props to his
guys and that he's got some talented players. But as
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you can see, it needs a little more than that.
And so far this year, whatever it's it hasn't worked
to that point where we've seen some some really you know,
great plays from the return game. We've seen some block kicks,
We've seen some things here and there, some touchdowns, some
some some nice plays on defense, I mean and special teams,
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but from returns game, haven't really seen that this year.
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Speaker 15 (26:31):
Nat you doing good? The great good good? Yeah, my
score get just the way thinking it'll be Cowboys thirty
twenty five. A couple of couple of questions. One is
what's the status on like you know, Digs and Clowney
and CD. And second thing, I just yeah, agree with
(26:55):
dery Bobs. We needed you come up with different either
wanting the ball down at the goal line or the
short quick screens or whatever something like that. But otherwise,
have a good day, calculator.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
All I appreciate it. Digs and uh Clowney CD guid
and I mentioned him earlier, those guys, you know, we'll
see we'll see what happens today on in Wednesday's practice,
I mentioned that before uh CD I think has a
shot to play. That's something that Schottenheimer had said earlier,
(27:31):
that that the having these extra days with the concussion.
That's the first thing I thought of was when when
he when he was on the ground, I was like, this,
this looks like a concussion and you got ten days
to the next game. Because I think gone are the days.
And I could be wrong here, but gone are the
days where it's seven day, seven days for concussion. I mean,
(27:53):
that really hasn't been the case. And it's actually been
two games, if not more in certain cases. So I
think it was a very I think CD was was
was disappointed that he was getting pulled out of that game.
I think he thought he could go. They just don't
(28:13):
risk it anymore. I mean, if you're if you're a
little woozy, you're done. That's just the way it's it's been.
And I you know, I can't say I disagree with
that at all. I mean, but but that's just the
way that it is. Now with ten days, maybe he's
got he's got a better shot here to to come
back and play in this game. As for the other guys,
(28:33):
let's just kind of see how the injury report goes out.
They're they're all a little fifty to fifty, but we'll
see if they can get out there and practice. And
then I'll make this point about your running game. And
we talked about in the in the red zone there.
You know, when you draft Tyler Smith in twenty fourth
I think he was he was a guard that you know,
(28:57):
tackle that could play guard maybe tackle, but they didn't
know exactly where to be, but they knew he had
the strength to play inside. You draft bb in the
third round, and then you draft Booker twelfth overall. So
you should be a team that could run the football
right up the middle in the red zone, late in
the game, run out the clock. You should be that
(29:20):
kind of team and eventually that that's that's got to
be the goal is to play that that style of
football with those guys. If not, then you don't. You
don't draft Booker twelfth overall. If he can't be a guy.
That's why you get a guard in the first round.
Says he needs to be somebody that could just move
people off the Ballate Nate Kneton used to say it
(29:41):
all the time. There would be games where he would
be lining up right in front of his his guy
and he'd be like, hey, it's coming right here. I'm
going to hit you. Moose is coming behind me, and
then Emmett stop it, and they couldn't. That's what this
team has to get back to. It's got to get
(30:02):
to that point where you get down in the red zone,
stop us because we're going to run the ball. We're
going to move you off the ball. And that's what
I think has got to get you know, and you
can't do it every single play, but you do it
enough the play accident. That's where you're tied in just
sitting there basically calling a fair catch a real fair catch,
(30:23):
not one where you fake the fair catch, since faking
the fair catch is a thing now. Dylan, Northport, Florida,
what's up, man, Dylan?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Hey, how you doing, dude?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
How you doing? Man? We're doing this?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Sorry, I just I just cut in.
Speaker 16 (30:42):
I couldn't hear anything on the phone. I'm here, I'm here,
all right.
Speaker 8 (30:46):
That's sorry.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
That's on being being said. It's on me being with
the with the my bad.
Speaker 16 (30:52):
We will forgive you, Chris, definitely.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Don't you hate. And this is not not a beam
thing saying. In football, when a guy drops a pass
or like Tyler Goyiton did it where he like a
false start at the one and he's like, my bad, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we see it.
Speaker 16 (31:09):
Man, guy like, hey, Guidon might have got tricked though
it might have been an Eagles defender and on his defense, right,
you ever get that one figured out?
Speaker 9 (31:18):
Was that dact that that did that?
Speaker 16 (31:19):
You know, the the meet him jump or was that
an Eagle defender yelling something out oh.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Defense? Yeah, well yeah screamed and he jumped, so.
Speaker 16 (31:29):
The ref needed to say my bad then on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, I don't know how they ever call that, honestly,
Like the ref isn't there the ref I mean, he's
not lined up right there. I don't know how they
ever called that where they the guys are barking signals
and all that. It's it's that's crazy. It's crazy to
me why the defense couldn't be able to do that.
Get the offense. The quarterback could change his Caten's up
and all that. Oh well, anyways, what you get.
Speaker 16 (31:57):
I saw some people talking about how if shot and him,
if the Cowboys don't make the playoffs, then Schottenheimer's first
season will have been a failure. And I couldn't disagree
more with that. I think that's ridiculous.
Speaker 11 (32:09):
You know, it's the first.
Speaker 16 (32:12):
It does sound like something an Eagles people would say,
but it's Cowboys fans saying it, and it's silly. It's
silly because you can't he's a first year head coach.
I think I look back and in the history of
the NFL, two first year head coaches went to the
super Bowl.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
That was it.
Speaker 16 (32:27):
In all the years the NFL has existed, that was it.
So it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
So measure success.
Speaker 16 (32:33):
People don't like to get into the nitty gritty and
look past the low hanging fruit, right, and we see
with the Jerry blame all the time. I think that's ridiculous.
Most of the time up that he's blameless, but I
think that's lazy and ridiculous. And I think this is
lazy and ridiculous because he's laying a foundation and you're
seeing things that you didn't see with the last administration.
You're seeing hold players accountable, they're restarting practices. How many
times last season did you see players and the coach
(32:55):
come out after a game say, yeah, we had a
bad week of practice. That doesn't happen apparent and Leander Schoenheimer.
So far, he's not letting it happen, so that's good.
He's holding guys accountable with Steede and Pickens, you know,
holding them out of the first series, like he's he's
building a culture here and starting something fresh. And anybody
that like really realistically looked at this team and the
roster and the holes they had, they knew this probably
(33:16):
unless something crazy happened, this wasn't going to be a
super Bowl year. That would have been insane unless they
got lucky, kind of like the CA Spanders the last
year on their big playoff run. So I think this
is a big step in the right direction season. I
think it's a culture foundational season, and I really think
with a good free agency and offseason next year, none
of this season's over by any stretch. There's still some
way to go, but I think they're well on their
(33:37):
way to being a real contender potentially next season. Undershotenheimer
depends what they do at DC though, And I guess
I can call later on and talk about that guy,
but that's a conversation I guess for another time.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, all right, hey, Dylan, I appreciate the call and
I think you you're onto something there. I don't know
who all says that, and you know that's just frustrated
and talk. But you got to remember this. As soon
as that trade was completed, that trade, not any of
the other six or seven. I'm talking about that one.
As soon as that was completed, I think all bets
(34:09):
were off of what we could really evaluate Schottenheimer this
year because think about how the trade was set up.
It wasn't just for Kenny Clark. I mean, that wasn't
the deal. The deal was for two first round picks
won this year. I mean one in twenty six, one
in twenty seven. That's the deal. So you traded away
(34:30):
a top five player in the NFL, one of the
best at his position, and he's having it. He's playing
great in Green Bay, and you miss him here because
you haven't replaced him so and it's been a problem.
So you traded that guy basically for two first round picks.
I know Kenny Clark was here, but he hasn't been
a difference maker and come with the terms of this defense.
(34:53):
So he's a piece of it, but not a big
huge part. And they haven't changed things around. But so
you can't evaluate really. I mean, that's that's what it was.
This was a future move and so he's the head coach.
He's not going anywhere. But I mean, you know, you
took away his best player and and for for two
guys that aren't even here yet. Now they did flip
(35:14):
one and they got Quinnon Williams and we've seen a
change and you're still going to get another one. But
yet we haven't seen what the trade hasn't come out yet,
so I don't know how you can really fully evaluate
what he's done. That's just my opinion. I think there's
been some good things. There's been some culture changes. You
don't change culture overnight, you don't. You have to change
(35:35):
it over the course of the season. I think he's
in the process of doing that. I think this team
has plays hard for him. They they've they've done a
good job. Now he he's learned some things. I think
what Lester said way back in earlier on the show
about you know, he's first year head coach and you've
got to give him a little bit of time to
do that and learn some things. He's been around a lot,
(35:56):
but not necessarily doing it all. He's been he's been
an off if it's a coordinator before, but he hasn't
been the guy to decide things on defense and you know,
when when when to do this and that and take
this guy out of the game and all all these
kind of things. So he's learning, and I think the
Cowboys are definitely patient with him. And you know, as
a guy that was not the best student in school,
(36:19):
I believe. I mean, if you fail, you fail. But
there's d's and their c's and b's and a's, uh
and uh, you know, I don't think he's going to
be It's not going to be a failure for him.
You don't make it to the playoff, he I mean,
they didn't. They'll fail at their goals like twenty other
teams will, but I don't think it will be a
(36:40):
failure for your first year head coach to that you know,
that's been trying to build this thing. All right, let's
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and I'd be right back after this.
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Rob in Vegas, what's up? I hear you want?
Speaker 11 (38:23):
You can't disagree more with you and my boy Dylan.
Why if this team doesn't make the playoffs, it's a failure.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Okay, all right? That and that and that's that's the
way people think. That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 17 (38:37):
That day.
Speaker 11 (38:38):
That is professional football.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
This team.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What what is a failure though? What see you're answering
different things. What is a failure? The season?
Speaker 11 (38:47):
Not not not making the playoffsky?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Fine?
Speaker 11 (38:51):
This steps steps in the season. The first step is
that's fine. You have to have enough wins to get
into the tournament.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
That how it works.
Speaker 11 (39:00):
That's how it works. And if you don't make it,
it's a failure, especially when you got the highest paid quarterback,
you got the third highest paid wide receiver, the highest
paid guard. You brought in George Pickens, and.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I get it. So that Okay, they don't make the playoffs,
who's your coach next year? Then who's your head goat Well.
Speaker 11 (39:21):
That's that's that's meaningless because he's got a contract. Somebody
fires coaches after one year.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
They could.
Speaker 11 (39:31):
No, they could, but listen it doesn't mean that Shoddy
can't be better the following year. But it's a failure. Okay,
it's a failure. This team will make the playoffs. And
if you interviewed the players if it happens, they would
say that. I hope they would say that.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah. I think we're just you're arguing two different things.
You're arguing two different things.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
It's another thing. Another thing Dylan said was he said,
as fans, we didn't expect the Cowboys to be a
playoff team.
Speaker 14 (40:06):
I did.
Speaker 11 (40:07):
You brought in George Pickens, so now you had two
number one wide receivers. You improved your offensive line supposedly
by drafting Booker, you got a running back. Now. I
didn't expect them to trade the best defensive player in
the league, which blew up the season, honestly, because if
(40:31):
you would have kept Micah and kept the team exactly
the same, you don't have Kenny Clark because that never happens.
But then you go trade for Quinn Williams, which you
still could have did. Could you imagine Quinn Williams and
Micah on this team right now, this team, this defense
would be unstoppable. So I have to blame Jerry because
(40:54):
it was Jerry that made the move. It's Jerry's the
one constant in the last thirty years, We've had one
hundred coaches, quarterbacks, this, that, and the other thing. So yes,
he gets all the blame because he's the GM too.
So I just I just disagree.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
I I this team.
Speaker 11 (41:17):
What's weird is we expect them now to go on
a run. We're expecting them to win four in a
row and get to the get to the playoffs. That's
but yet before the season, we didn't expect that and
we had Micah. So I'm just a little confused with that.
This team was good enough. This team should be, should
(41:41):
have made should make the playoffs, should have made the playoffs.
And I'm sorry if this team falls short, it's a failure.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
It just is. Yeah, Okay, thanks thanks for the call. Rob.
I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that. I feel like
you're changing the uh. I think you're you're you're kind
of moving the goalpost a little bit here because uh
you what Dylan. I think what Dylan was saying was
(42:12):
was that that Shody was considered it was a failure
on him. I get what your goal is. Your goal
is to make the playoffs, and if you don't make it,
you fell short of that. It was a failure for
for for making that goal, but it's not a failure
for building something. And when you take your best player
and you move it to next year, then obviously that
(42:35):
is where some of the focus is, not all of it.
You still want to win the games, but some of
your focuses and some of your priorities were pushed to
next year or you wouldn't have made the trade.
Speaker 17 (42:44):
So I get it.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
And who made the trade? Jerry made the trade. And
then that's how you started talking about Jerry. Fine, this
was about Shody. That was the original part was about Shody.
Can this guy be your head coach?
Speaker 17 (42:59):
Is he?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
That was the decision that was made that no one liked,
including myself. No one liked that move now looking at
it now, just from that standpoint, Is he the guy
that you think can turn this around and get them
where they want to go with a full roster, with
with you know, with great players at at all positions. Yeah,
I think I think he can. That's what the evaluation was.
(43:24):
And I don't you know this thing got changed to
you know, how you believe in seasons, Is it a
failure and all that stuff, And maybe I'm the wrong
guy for that because when I started my first four
years working here, I saw eight and eight playoffs, but
then I saw three, five and elevens. So maybe I
have a different opinion about what a failure is and
all that. I mean, yeah, you want to make the playoffs,
(43:46):
you want to win the super Bowl, all that, because
I guarantee you there are people out there that say,
if you don't win the super Bowl, that's a failure.
Let's go to Bruce in Houston.
Speaker 14 (43:56):
Nick, so well, Rob can get under your skin and
a hurry brother.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Good, No, I love it. That's that's good. That's good.
As I told Rob, is the guy shooting baskets in
the pool when the little fluting goal, the goals moving,
that's not what we were talking about. It was over here.
Now you moved over here. And I love Rob and
robbed that I.
Speaker 17 (44:22):
Know.
Speaker 14 (44:23):
And he's from Vegas to right, So that that's my guy,
all right, And you know you stole my thunder because
that's what I was gonna say. Well, Rob, according to
your analogy there, then the whoever lost the super Bowl
that year was an utter failure you know, next season.
Speaker 11 (44:38):
And that is true some people.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Some people say that the question is can Scotty is
Shoty the right guy? Is he on the right path
for a guy that no one liked this move? Here
we are almost a full season in. Is he the
guy that that that can, that can turn this around fully?
And I think I think so. I think he's it's
been a good hire. That's really what the pust is.
He's just been a good hire.
Speaker 14 (45:01):
I think so too, And I agree a couple of callers, well, Dylan,
he mentioned that he's creating a culture, and that's that's
that's what you need. Those guys. We got to remember
these guys are twenty two and twenty three year they're
just kids. I mean, of course they can say that
when I'm in my sixties, but they're still kids. Even
though they're grown giant men, they're still young young men
(45:23):
that still need to be developed. And I hate to
say it, he's partially right there because Jerry did hire
eber Flus before or well, I mean, you know, it
seemed like he didn't get the higher's defensive coordinator and
that's kind of why I called do you think if?
And I don't want him to be fired because you
hate to start over on another defensive coordinator. But is
(45:45):
there a defensive coordinator were I was listening to the
Talking Cowboys before and they were talking about Brian Flores,
what a innovator he is and how he uses it
almost like a almost like a almost like a Bimmerman?
Speaker 5 (46:01):
Did is is he?
Speaker 14 (46:04):
Would he be that type of coach to to coach
the It depends on the players we have, you know,
are they zone players? Are they press covers?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
You know?
Speaker 14 (46:12):
Pick pick a lane, so to speak. But talk a
little bit about I hope he doesn't get fired. I
think they need some continuity. What would Jerry let uh shot?
He pick his own defensive corner? I should go. But
I think this team is in the right direction. I
I love the trade. It's going to be curious to
see what their two number one picks are going to be.
(46:33):
And I like our cornerbacks. Caylin Carson was playing pretty good,
and I like to see what Rebel is gonna do.
This is like pre season for him, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (46:42):
Anyway, all right, thanks for the call. I'm sorry to
cut you off. We got one more caller, I'll say
this about the defensive coordinator part. You know, they have
a coordinator here, so I'm not going to get into
what they're going to do unless unless there is a
change made. I'll say this though, that if shot shot
he calls plays on offense, he has got to be
in tune with the defensive coordinator one thousand percent. He's
(47:02):
got to believe what that guy believes. And if they
have differences of opinion, and I'm not saying they do
or don't, I'm just saying, if there, that has to
be number one. Uh, he's got to know, Hey, I'm
dealing with the offensive guys here and on what this
last series was like. But I hope the hell that
he's blitzing here two times on the on this series,
(47:22):
or or we're playing a prevent or whatever it is.
He's got to know that his defensive coordinator has this
back there and and if that's the case with Flu's fine,
they'll get better here in the year two. If that's
not the case, then that's really what Shoddy needs. Let's
go Eric in Arkansas. One more one more caller, Eric.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Hey, how's it going good?
Speaker 3 (47:41):
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
I'm pretty good first time caller, so I just wanted
to get on and I just got here.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
We go all right, let's go.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah. No, I'm not a big hope on a state.
So I got two things.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
One thanks for the win. That was the last one.
With that, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
I got two things. Won the Parson deal. I don't
think we were going to actually, you know, we couldn't
afford them. And now, if we were to pay Parson
forty seven million, everybody said we would have overpaid him,
you know what I mean. But for green Bay, I
guess that's a good thing. Two Parson, when he was
on the team for four years, our defense still won
a ranked in the top ten or five or ten.
(48:24):
We were still giving up the run, still giving up
almost three hundred yards against Green Bay in the playoff game,
he had one tackle. So you know, I can't I
can't say Parson really losing parts really hurt the defense.
For that fact, I've seen with Parson on the team,
I defense still won rank. Now do you can put
Williams with that, It's a different story, you know what
(48:44):
I mean. That's a totally difference. But when we go
after Williams, if we still kept Parson, as we paid
forty seven million. You're right exactly exactly. You see what
I'm saying. So we were still being in the same situation.
Can't stop the run. Now our defensive scheme now we
got press corners. Yeah, and we're playing him his own Yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
I don't think they would have made that trade because
you would have had to trade next year as one
and or or the one in twenty twenty seven and
a second.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
And I don't think yeah exactly, you know, so are
sports would you have needed that?
Speaker 3 (49:19):
I mean seriously, though, if you've got Osa that you
paid and and and you have Michael on the outside,
But I think what your point you're saying is and
we kind of have to go. Are you saying that, like,
even if you would have kept Micah, you still have
problems on defense.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Absolutely, okay, yeah, fair linebackers and everything else. Yeah, we've
had major problems.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, and maybe other other issues too.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
And yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't the most well liked person
in the world. Now is that is that? Does that
mean trade him? No, that's not the reason you trade him.
But you know he wasn't You know that there were
issues there, There were there were issues, and there's gonna
be issues with Green Bay too. That's just who he is.
Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, but yeah, well go ahead, I will say this,
Emmy cuts you off. But here's the thing too, when
he laid on the table, I knew it was over.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
It was over. I one hundred percent agree, And I
wrote that in my column that on the table, when
we went on the table, you don't do that. You
don't do that. And what you're showing is is that
if it's not about me, I don't care. There were
young defensive ends, young defensive players that look up to him,
(50:24):
that that was their shot. They were playing. They were
playing for their career right there. And if some guy
that you don't you've never heard of, gets a sack,
that means a lot. He could be on the practice squad.
I've seen Jesse Holly make a career because he made
a play in the last preseason game. And Micah Parsons
is falling asleep because he's bored. That's not a team guy.
(50:45):
Get him out of here. And that's what they did.
Once that happened, it was over over and all right,
we gotta we gotta roll.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Man.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
It was great talking to you. Thanks for the first time,
call make sure and call back. Guys, great show, good
good stuff.
Speaker 11 (50:58):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
You know you're my guy. You know you're my guy.
We just argue to argue sometimes, Dylan, thanks for kind
of setting that up and all that good stuff today.
Glad to have a full show. If you know, you know,
We'll see you tomorrow for Chris Bean, I'm Nicki Eatman.
See you on the Cowboys storyline.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
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