Cowboys StoryLine: Running or Passing Offense?

The final show of the offseason sparked a little debate on what kind of offense this will be. Are they gonna be a running team, a passing team or does it matter at all?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. It is Wednesday, June eleventh.
I'm Nick Eatman. Final show of the off season. Always
seems to happen a little bit early, but in this case,
going to training camp pretty early. Looks like we're going
right July twenty ish something like that. It's changed a

(00:44):
couple of times. I think that is the time. I
don't know if it's been officially announced, but it's mid
to late July, and so this will be the last
day of this shows because after this week's mini camps,
the players and coaches are pretty much off until they
report to training camp. So this will be our last show,
so last week of podcasts all together. I think everyone

(01:08):
not everyone's excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Chris Bean might be.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
He's been doing the shows, not every show every day,
but still this is the time we can kind of
get a little bit of a break, and so no
one needs it more than Chris. But let's see if
we can get as many calls as we can in
this show to kind of wrap up this offseason, so
let's just get right to it. Michael and Colton, California.

(01:33):
Like he's always been when he calls, he's first, Michael,
what's up, man, Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Sir, Good morning everybody. And how about them Cowboys? Nick Man,
I'm just getting really excited because I just feel like
the season is man right around the corner. And I
just want to say, Man, I think you guys over
there at the media team, not only are you the
best in the business, but I think you guys have
the best job in the whole world. You guys get
to like, you know, you guys have a whole insight

(02:00):
what's going on over there. But anyways, to get to
my question, what rookies, and I say rookie more than one,
do you think we'll have the biggest impact, will be
the biggest storylines of training camp and and and That's
what I'm excited to see. So yeah, once again, how
about them Cowboys and shout out to the whole Cowboys nation.
And I'll go ahead and hang up and listen to

(02:21):
you offline. But God, lets you all have a great day,
all right.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Michael appreciated, great call, A lot of energy in and out,
quickly with a good question too, So great call to
start off the show for us. As far as the rookie,
you know, having the biggest impact, I mean, you hope
it's your first round pick.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
You hope it's Tyler Booker.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
You hope you know they're right guard, he steps right
in and they can run the football well. And I
mean it's hard to fathom, Oh just replace Zach Martin,
but at least be you know, I don't know if
he can do that right away, but that's the plan.
That's why you drafted him there. So that's that's the
easy answer. But well we'll talk about a couple more.

(03:04):
I mean, guys that could certainly make a difference here,
second and third round picks.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I mean, how.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Donovan as Iraku, How he he makes a jump here
as his rookie year. What what kind of contribution does
he bring? Is he a pass rusher off the edge
right off the bat? See a guy that has to
be on there and third down? You hope, So you
hope he's that good of a pass rusher. I remember,
you know, just hearing about eber Flus, like really wanting

(03:34):
that pick. There was some talk about another cornerback in
that second round, but he was like the best guy
on the board for me is at Boston College pass
Rusher as Iraku and and you know, he was able
to get the room to kind of think that way too,
not that they weren't already on board, but that was
just kind of his his doing there, I think, and

(03:55):
let's see what he does. And then also, you know,
you know Savone Revel, what what can he do? I
see him right now rehabbing the ACL injury from last year.
He should be getting close to training camp being ready
to go. He looks he looks pretty good. What kind

(04:15):
of contribution can he can he provide? Because we're talking
about a guy that a lot of people thought was
a first round pick. And what's what's funny is I
was watching something on NFL Network that had been recorded.
It might have been a Cowboy game or something that
I just recorded, and I was watching it. This is

(04:36):
like a week after the draft. But this was this
this thing. It was a football life, that's what it was.
It was one of those football lives. Lawrence Taylor, That's
what it was. It was a Lawrence Taylor football life.
I was watching that and it was like a week
before the draft, and somebody was throwing out there mock draft,
you know, and this is after the Cowboys had picked.
But I looked at it and I was like, wow,

(04:57):
they had three. They had like Tyler book picked like
fifteen or so, and then they had Azaraku at like
twenty eight and then Revel at like thirty. This is
just I forgot who it was, Lance zer Line or something.
Maybe Bucky Brooks thought that was interesting after the draft that,
you know, at some point somebody thought they got you know,
they would have three of these guys go in the
first round. So those got That's my answer. Those guys

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right there, those other two other than Booker, what kind
of contributions do they bring? And then quiet it's kept.
I mean, Jayden Blue, the fifth round pick, might just
be starting running back. SOT A lot of good story
lines there for the rookies. Let's go to Zach and Germany. Zach,
what's up, man Lick? What's how you doing good? How
are you?

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Thank you for our gift.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
You sent a lot of stuff to a lot of
their team members, shirts and patches and things like that.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Yeah, no problem, no problem.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Those shirts are they're very comfortable and I feel like,
I mean it says like customs on the back or something.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I feel like I'm gonna go around there like.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
A like a security guard and start telling people what
to do.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
I might do that.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Now might not be the day to wear it if.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
You haven't watched the news, maybe not, maybe not today,
maybe not.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
But I appreciate that. As far as cowboy stuff, got
a couple of short things for you today, first one
stole them and Thomas, that guy is looking big. Do
you see him playing inside outside, just wanting to get your.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Opinion wherever want wherever he wants to play.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
No, he's looking huge.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I think he's I think he's.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
A three technique inside guy that that may be on
some some certain situations they can play him there with OSA,
but I think for the most part he's the guy
that that will that will spell OSA and play you
know in three technique but there you know, EVENU we'll
do some different things in there, but I think he
could play a one occasionally depending on the down in distance.

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But I think for the most part he's a three
technique defensive tackle.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Okay, good good to here. I hope he revives his
career here. A decent stint with the Jets, but for
the first round or so. Moving on now with the
you know, the cards are settled a little bit. Looking
at our running back situation with the Javante or Miles,
because those are the two guys, would you have rather
have kept Dawdle now looking at the contracts are almost

(07:14):
the same, or would you you feel it was time
to move on? I just want to get your thoughts
on that. And then the last thing is, I'm not
sure if you already mentioned it on here, Alexander being released.
Just want to get your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
All right. I appreciate it, you know, I don't really
have any any any thoughts about Rico Daddle and all that.
I mean, just you know, looking at at what you know,
he he got there and what the Cowboys ended up
doing a little bit cheaper there. I I kind of
think that those guys are about the same to me,

(07:46):
the and and they're not getting paid the same.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
So I think Daddell was good.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
He's a good, solid player, But I you know, I
don't think it necessarily had to have him. He's good.
They can get this out of Javante Williams, and I
think when Rico Daddle did that. I don't think it
changed inside the building. This is my opinion. I don't
think it changed the thoughts on Rico Daddle like, oh,

(08:15):
he's better than we thought. I think it changed the
thought on, Okay, this is what we can do with
a player like that. So if Rico can do this,
we can do this with others. And that's why you
didn't see them draft a running back that high. They
didn't put a lot of stock in the free agency.
They got a couple of guys probably on that same level.

(08:36):
So that's what I think happened is I don't think
it changed anyone's thoughts about about what Rico is as
a running back. I think it changed thoughts on or
maybe it even solidified thoughts about we can do okay
with a back that's not in the top tier and
you know he can be very productive, which Rico was.
So that's what I think happened there. And then answering

(08:59):
your question on jay R Alexander, Uh, you know, it's
what you have right now with guys that are hurt
a lot at corner. I'm not saying Doron blance hurt
a lot. He got hurt once, but Diggs has been
hurt a little bit. I mean, so you have some
uncertainty there at corner. This would just be another guy
you throw in there. I I'm I'm usually for that

(09:25):
kind of move. In this case, I would go against it.
I don't think that's that's your answer there. I'd rather
see uh, you know them develop revel and uh and see,
you know, see what happens when when Diggs can come back.
But you're adding another another I want to say problem

(09:45):
because I don't know much about him. I just maybe
some headaches and good player wouldn't healthy. But you know,
the Packers obviously decided to let him go. He needs
a new start. But I you've done that little it
with elm already. That's probably not the route that I
go Jaire Alexander. That's just my first gut instinct. Don't

(10:07):
know much about the player and how much they've they've
studied him. Maybe that is something that they'll do. All right,
let's go to champ in Nebraska.

Speaker 8 (10:17):
Hey, good morning morning.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (10:20):
I'm good? Hey, I hadn't called for a while. I
was gonna try to call in a couple of weeks
ago on my birthday on a Wednesday, and that was
a Wednesday, you guys changed to Thursday, and I was
off that day. I was like, dang it, I missed it.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
So it's all good, all right, Well, happy birthday to you.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
I appreciate that. Hey, a couple questions. I know, a
mini camp out, there is no contact and all that,
but can you tell us what you've seen from Booker
and guiding like his booker? Does he look like he's
a real deal guiding? Has he improved any from last
year that you can tell just in these non contact

(10:58):
drills and stuff. And also over the off season, we've
heard a lot about Diggs and potentially releasing, trading moving
on from him with his contract and all that. But
listening to Micah and the way he talks about Digs
and the friendship they have, do you think that would
be a problem if we got to the point where

(11:19):
we released Diggs because of that contract or trading him
whatever we did with Tim, that it would cause some issues.
I mean, I know it's some business. Yeah, you make friends,
and people come and go and all that, but it
seems like Kim Micah have a really really strong friendship.
I don't know if that would be something that could
potentially cause some disruption to him, and what he cares

(11:42):
for is for digs having some hard feelings towards organization,
and they got rid of him with that. I'll hang up,
I'll listen offline. I just wanted to say hello and
you guys, enjoy your break. We'll miss you and we'll
see you in a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Thanks, Champ, appreciate it a great call. Let me ask
we go those the first part about Guidon and.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Booker.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
You know, you said it best when you said, you know,
it's hard to tell about those those offensive linemen early
on here with with no no contact. But you know,
when I talked to Eberflus the other day, he was
he was getting a salad or something like that. We
chatted for just a second. I asked him this question,

(12:24):
not so much about the the offensive tackles, but the
defensive guys. About this time of year, you know, what
are the things that y'all are looking for without you
because it's they play physical positions. The guys that play
physical positions, What can you see?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
He said?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
The biggest thing, the number one thing, of course, is awareness.
You know, we know what the play is called, we
know what they're supposed to do, and we know, you know,
did they get there or not? Did did they you
know the pop with their hands. You know, you can
tell a lot of things without it actually taking people
to the ground. So that was from defensive side of
the ball, offensive side the ball kind of the same

(13:01):
type of thing. You know, are they are they getting
out of the stance quick?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Are they?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Where are they picking up things where the maybe potential
blitz is coming from. Those are things that are tough
to tell. Body wise, I think Guyton does look better looks.
You know, he's super tall and so he looks a
lot like a left tackle now and he will certainly
with those pads on. So it's it's really hard to

(13:26):
tell at this time of year. So you you knew
it was when you ask the question. But the guys
that do know, the coaches, they're saying the right things
at least, and I don't know if they would say differently,
but from what I'm hearing, they're doing well. But then again,
just like with anything, just like with the culture, just
like with everything that sounds good here, they're all changes

(13:48):
into you know, when when when the bullets start flying.
So it looks good for Tyler, Guyton but when Micah
Parsons signs a contract, if that happens, gets the training
camp and rushes off the edge on him, and you know,
in a one on one drill, or the Rams come
to come to Aux Snard for a practice and you know,
yet Verse over there or whatever and they're going out

(14:10):
at one on one, Let's see what happens, you know,
and that that's that's one when we'll really find out
a lot of that good stuff. And then as for
the Digs part with Micah, you know, I think players
understand everybody's situation. You know, Micah is in a different
boat than than you know, Digs or a lot of players.

(14:34):
And you know, micas he knows one of the big
things things for him is to be a leader, and
so part of being a leader is understanding other things
that happened. And then in the organization. So if that
were to happen, if the Cowboys were to make a
move there, and I don't know if that will, but
if they did, you know, he could be upset about it,

(14:54):
or he could be you know, disappointed, sad, whatever it is.
But also from a business standpoint, you know, step it
up and move on. I mean, and and here's an
example of that, what Diggs is doing in the off
season and what his decision to be here, not be
here on certain times, give up some money to do
some of the things and rehab at other places. I mean,

(15:16):
that's not exactly what Mike is doing. Mike's in a
different boat too, So yeah, they might have a great friendship,
but they're still doing things differently and acting different with
where they are and when they're there and all that
kind of stuff. So I don't think it would be
a huge problem at all. I mean, it shouldn't be.
Like you said, it's a business and handle your own
business is a big.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Part of it there.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
All right, let's go to a daveon in Illinois.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
What's going on, big?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (15:42):
Man?

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Going on?

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Man?

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Happy to get on? All right, it's always tough. Actually,
I just celebrated my birthday a couple of days ago.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Yeah, man, four to six years is a big time,
big time. I'm enjoying, enjoyed my weekend out golfing.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Should but.

Speaker 7 (16:07):
A couple of things, Mini Caamp, What are the things
that you've you've noticed with the offense? Are you seeing
like a lot of new stuff new new wrinkles that
we got coming this year.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Seeing a little bit more motion, you know, and which
which is what we've you know, we were talked about
a lot last year. Why is that there not more motion?
But I do think there's a there's a ton of misdirection.
I mean, that's that's one thing. Everybody going this way,
tight end, going that way, running back, going that way.

(16:46):
It's like, and I've said this before, but this offense
feels like it's going to use every blade of grass
of that fifty three yards wide.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
They really are.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I don't see a lot of bunch up things. I
see more spread out things, which I like.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I've never really understood the whole bunched up when when
you have tight ends and receivers in here trying to
block and all that, I just feel like it's better
to just use it, use it all. And that's one
thing I've seen a lot of rollouts, a lot of
you know, a lot of the CD going this way,
turpin coming across the field this way, wide open tight ends.

(17:25):
You know that maybe that's not great for the defense
you know of right now, But that's one thing I
have seen is just just a lot of misdirection as
far as routes go, and and and you know, just
being deceptive here and sneaking a guy out to being
wide open.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Yeah, that's pretty cool. And I've been hearing that the
chambers between Dag Pickens and CD is starting to really
block us. It really feels like I think I was
talking to a little click about basically he could be
like Alva Harper, Mike irv In to of course Troy. Yeah,

(18:04):
and we can have hopefully one of the running backs
sprout up and be something. Uh. I guess when we
figure out who's gonna be the number one. But man,
definitely just truly truly excited. We got we pretty much
got solidified of what we're gonna do for us coming
to oxen Ord. I think it's about six or seven
of us, Oh wow country to come down and basically

(18:27):
be there the first part of week two, week two
or week three. I think we're all out there, uh
and look forward to try to beat you in person
and stuff like that. And we're so excited to come
up to hang out.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
So yeah, man, that's that's awesome. That that is going
to be that's going to be very interesting. It's gonna
be that. That's a cool h cool concept. I'm glad
you guys are doing that.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Man. I can't imagine y'all staying in one house.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Yeah, that's a plan we're looking at, trying to be
and be somewhere near, like a couple of miles away
from the training facility or whatever. Yeah, we're coming from
coach you know, Illinos. We got Dallas, Arizona, East Coast
with Ireen, with South Florida with Dylan, so we come

(19:21):
all over. We're gonna be It's gonna be pretty cool, man.
I'm excited. I can't wait to, like, say, can to
see you in Christ in person and try to meet
up everybody else.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
All right, we'll make senthing happen. We'll figure out how
we do a show when it's my day. I don't
do a show every day, but when it is my day,
do a show when y'all are out there.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
It'll be early in the morning.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
We do a show at eight, so you know, we'll
see what kind of late nights y'all have in that airbnb.
But we'll see if y'all get up for the eight
o'clock show, maybe we can figure something out to put
y'all on there one way or another. We'll we'll figure
out a way to do that. Well, that's will.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
We'll be ready for that because I say, we're excited
just to get out there, and let's be a lifelong
dream for me because I always wanted to go to
be out there training council. I'm looking forward to it.
I'm gonna keep.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
All right, well, we're I'm excited for you guys as
well that it should be a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Davi, and thanks again for the call. Appreciate that. Wow.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Man, who whole crew coming, not the whole crew, but
I mean a big crew coming out there for a
training camp and storyliners. We'll we'll have to put something up.
We're gonna get creative with that. One of the things
you've said about Pickens and being the Alvin Harper, I

(20:42):
mean I get the concept. I mean, you have a
number one, then you have a number two that can
play off of that. But Pickens is say this the
right way. Pickens is closer, in my opinion, closer to
CD skill wise than Harper was to Michael Irvin. I

(21:06):
think it was a one and a two. This is
this is.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
A one a.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
And and I don't I'm gonna say one B, but
I mean that's probably what it is. I guess that's
what I'm saying because because Pickens is dynamic, like more
than Alvin Harper. Alvin Harper, you know, down the field,
big deep threat and all that. He could also take
a slant and eat long strider And that's one thing
they do have in common, because man, Pickens can get

(21:36):
fifteen yards in like two seconds, and just the way
he's got long legs. He's just a long strider. But
the he's he's he's very quick, he's twitchy, and he
made some plays yesterday, had a couple where he was
leaving cornerbacks just in the dust. He he is a
dynamic player and that and it can get down the

(21:56):
field as well. So that's that's one where I think
the Cowboys have two really really good playmaking wide receivers.
I can't remember a time where they had had it
like that. Even when it was Cooper and CD as
a rookie, they you know, they weren't at that level

(22:18):
as far as being dynamic.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yit. So all right, let's go to Brian in Kansas City.

Speaker 10 (22:24):
Good morning, mister Eatman.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
How are you.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 10 (22:28):
Sir, I had. I had a weird thing happened to me.

Speaker 11 (22:32):
It was two days ago, and it made me think
of a Cowboy thing, but I.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
Can't remember who the player was. So I was doing
a current rewards. I was doing a freaking warm up
exercise and pulled a muscle in my back and I
was trying to remember there was a Cowboys offensive lineman
who hurt himself, like in the tunnel, jumping up and
down warming up for the game. Do you remember who
that was?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
How long are you going?

Speaker 10 (23:00):
It's during your tenure. It's not deep history, it's during
your tenure. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
I would say in the last decade.

Speaker 10 (23:06):
But it was one of those freak things where they
were like, hey the person was, you know, coming onto
the field.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think, and you go ahead, I think.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Beish if I mean, I think that happened to be oddish.
I know he got hurt in pregame one time, so
that was an offensive line that I can remember. And
then there was another one way back like Parcels time,
named Kurt Vohlers, who also got hurt in a pregame

(23:40):
or something and was out out for the game, and
Parcels was not happy. About that, you know, because he
had made a decision to put him, get him ready
to go, and say all right, you're active, and I'm
this guy's gonna be inactive. And then the pregame guy
gets hurt. So imagine the frustration there. But those are
the two that come to mind. I don't know, maybe

(24:01):
somebody different.

Speaker 9 (24:02):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (24:04):
I don't think it was bowlers, but it probably I'm
probably thinking of the Otish. I just remember thinking, holy cow,
what are the chances of an elite athlete getting hurt
in a pregame warm up? But you know, I was
just one of those things.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Amstring injury for your offensive lineman? Like what are we
doing here?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
We'll kind of kind oh.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
Man, all right, So for my question this week, man,
I was wondering, so just to this time last year,
just want to compare from the snapshot of right now
to this time of last year, what unit on the
team do you think is the most improved for whatever reason,
because of coaching, because of acquisition, whatever. And then which

(24:52):
one do you think is maybe you know, if you
think there's one that maybe isn't quite the same. And
I'll take the two low hanging fruits I'll say wide
receiver because of the obvious. Yeah, and for me right now,
just right now, because of injury, it's defensive back. Because
at this point last year, we had two of the

(25:15):
three positions nailed down, right, we had Jay Leu and
Bland waiting for Diggs to come back, we only had
one position to figure out. Right now, I feel like
we have two positions to figure out, and that's just
temporary because of the injuries. But you know, I don't
think we have the same thing. And I'll hang up
and listen, man, enjoy your vacation, sir.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, thank you appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
You know, I think those are the answers, honestly, wide receiver.
And you said because of the obvious, I think you're
talking about pickings. But there's more to it than that,
because when you think about a year ago, there wasn't
a doubt that that CD would be signed. It was
just when. And he wasn't here for training camp. You know,

(26:00):
he did not participate in training camp and definitely not
in the OTAs and so or Man, he might have
done some OTAs in mini camps and all that, but
I mean it wasn't the same. I mean, he wasn't
here like like he's been and and so to have,
like I just said, those two dynamic players and they're here,
and your quarterbacks out there are throwing them the ball.

(26:22):
And so there's no question marks there with contracts and
things like that. The chemistry that's being built there and
with this offense and figuring out, you know how where
everyone's going, and and just all the motions and the
and the shifting and things like that. To have everybody
here doing that is huge. So yes, the answer is

(26:42):
wide receiver. And and for not just the addition of Pickens,
but having CD here this offseason. And and also I
think you've got a better player in Turpin. I think
Turpin is is a is a more of a of
a well rounded offensive player. I mean, he's a weapon
for you. And I think I think Shot he knows this.

(27:04):
I mean I know he knows this because he was
a big part in getting him involved more at the
end of the season last year. In any capacity, running
the football right up the middle. You would not think
that guy could run the ball right up the middle,
but he did, and he'd get nine, ten eleven yards
when he when he did. He's you can't just do
it every play. He's not going to hold up if you,

(27:27):
if you, if you, if you get too greedy with him.
But he's got more that he can use on his plate.
I think the Cowboys know that, and that's why they
signed him. And some of the contract incentives for him
to make even more money is all offensive related, and
so what he can do on offense there. But and
then the answer to your question on the other side,

(27:48):
what other position there? I think you were right about Corner.
I think that's the one because you you had. You
just felt better about it because Diggs was hurt early
on and he's coming back and he should be fine,
and Bland, you know, had a great year, and you
know Jordan Lewis resigned, and you know, everything was looking

(28:10):
better there at Corner than now. There's just a lot
more question marks. So you kind of answered your own question.
I thought you did a great job of doing that.
You guys know, you guys know what's going on. You
really do. Let's take a break here on Cowboys Storyline'll
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Speaker 3 (30:00):
Cowboys Storyline. All right back here on Cowboys storyline again.
As I mentioned when the show began, this is our
final show of the off season before we get it
crank backed up at training camp.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
That'll be in late July.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
And we're still figuring out the schedule there. Remember that's
that kind of an every other day for the shows
that you know we'll still have. I think it's three
to four shows every day, but each show goes every
other day, so in this case, which is more than
than the once a week that we're doing right now.
Of course we'll take a break and it'll it'll even

(30:41):
out to about two times a week, sometimes three, just
depending on if we start on Monday or not. But
but you know, definitely to two times a week. Don't
go on the weekend, so so still be a lot
of fun. I know Chris is working on getting that
making sure that phone line is good it out there.
Did we have two lines last year, Chris? I think

(31:03):
we did or is it was just the one? I
don't remember too. Yeah, so it was. It was good
looking forward to uh, just hanging out with my with
my friend Moe Claiborne. And I'm sure because the eight
o'clock time slot, it works because it's the ten it's
ten o'clock here Central time, so it's the same time
slot all year long, so it works. But it also

(31:25):
is in the same time slot. As as mowing the
grass every day and making sure and doing it right
behind us as much as possible. But hey, that's part
of it. We gotta we gotta fight through it. As
as as our old friend Jason Garrett used to say,
be your best regardless of circumstance. So we're going to
have to be our best there. Dylan Northport, Florida, he's

(31:46):
one of the best.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
What's up man?

Speaker 8 (31:49):
Hey? Thanks?

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Did I was confused you talk about more Claiborne. I
was like, wait, is he going to be like a
co host on the show.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
But that's my nickname for the guy. It might be
different guys, but it's the people.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
It was so good and needed his own drop.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I mean that actually sounds kind of soothing. I mean,
like you know that, that's that's kind of like when
I have you know, if I can't sleep, turn on
like this little sleep fan or something. That's what that
sounds like. But it doesn't sound I'm telling you this,
it doesn't sound like that.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
In my ear.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
It's completely different. In my ears, it sounds different than that.
But whatever, I'm not gonna worry about it. I'm not.
I promise myself, I'm not gonna talk about it more
than once a segment. Uh next year, So I'm gonna
I'm gonna stop with that just once a segment.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
All right, Well, maybe he'll partner up with leaf Blurillarry
and you get a whole brigade out there.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Oh yeah, there's there's more than just the mowing going on.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
We have a lot happening because it's practice, it's gonna
happen that morning, so there's a lot of cleaning up.
There is a lot of the leaf blower stuff. So yeah,
eights and eights and nine is a lot of prepping
for the field and stuff like that. But hey, it's okay,
it'll be fine. What's up doing?

Speaker 15 (33:07):
You know?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Rob called in last week and we had a whole
Twitter conversation, him and me and a whole bunch of
other people. It's good conversations about Dak. Prescott and I
just I disagree with a lot of his takes about Dak.
But one thing that he said in particular that I
just strongly disagree with and hopefully he can call in
and challenge me on it, was that he doesn't think

(33:28):
Dak he's concerned about Dak. Dak is his biggest concern
on the team, but he still thinks he's a top
ten quarterback, which kind of is conflicting to me. And
then he said that he doesn't want us to lean
into the run. He says, with all the weapons we
have on offense and the offensive line. He says he
wants he wants us to be a pass heavy team.
But I'm like, if, well, if that's you know, an
issue or a concern, you know, I don't want to

(33:48):
go that route. You know, I want to run the ball.
I'll run the ball ten times in a row if
it's working. I'm the kind of guy that I'll do
it until it stopped working. You know, there's it's low risk.
If you're getting five six yards of carry, I'd run
the ball, ding dang game. And then, you know, I
half when you start running the ball, these safeties cheat
up and they start playing more eight man boxes, and
all of a sudden, now Pickens can go you know,
fifty yards for a touchdown deep because he's one on

(34:09):
one with no safety help. I mean, run the ball,
establish a run, run till they make you stop running
the ball, and then run it some more and then
count in the passion. If DA can throw the ball
twenty five or thirty times a game, imagine imagine twenty
twenty five Dak Prescott with the skill set that he
has the understanding of the game, having such a dominant
run game. I don't know if we're going to have
that just that's kind of a FIPE dream. But I

(34:30):
imagine today is dak in twenty sixteen Cowboys offense. I
think that would be a phenomenal a phenomenal team, a
phenomenal offense. And that's what I want, And that's why
I wanted to drest an offensive line, and I'm glad
we did.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
I mean, I think both y'all are saying things that
I can, I can agree with, and that's why in
this particular case, I think everybody can.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Be right in this case.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Not not all cases, not all arguments, but in this one,
I think you can. And the reason why I say
that is I think back to the past. I think
back to what was Tony Romo's best season? Well, I
mean twenty fourteen. He was third at MVP. Well what
happened to twenty fourteen? Also, Tomarco Murray running back in

(35:11):
the league, led the league in rushing and Tony Romo
was MVP. I mean not the MVP. I'm sorry, he
was third in MVP voting. Uh and he you know,
he played through a back injury something that that year
he did not win MVP.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Sorry to say that, but.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It was at twenty twenty three MVP caliber season exactly.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Aikman was a Hall of Fame quarterback, had the NFL's
all time leading rusher and all that, and had a
lot of weapons too, And so I think, and then
I think what I remember Rob's point is all of
these weapons on offense. Don't want them to be a
running team, but I want them to be a.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Move the chains team.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
If you move the chains one way or another, it's
going to change what the defense does. And then now
your tight end is going to make plays. And then
now you're running back. Like you just said, I think
Dak can be a top ten quarterback. I think they
can be a running team, and I think all of
the weapons can be useful in the way that we
want them. That's the way it works, if everything's clicking.

(36:12):
You know, look at what the Eagles did. I mean,
I think AJ Brown, Davonte Smith were outstanding. I think
Dallas got it was really good. And then they had
a guy that was two thousand yard rusher as well,
and a and a quarterback that does his things.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Push and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
You can do all of it if you're good, and
if you're and I think I think everyone can be
right in this situation.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I really believe that.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah, I just don't want to see Dak throwing the
ball forty times the game because there's diminishing returns and
if you're throwing the ball that much, it probably means
you're playing from behind, or you can't run the ball
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
And you and I bet I bet Rob would say
he doesn't want that either forty times. But I I
get what you're saying, and I really think I'm not
trying to just be you know, neutral here. I think
everybody in this case can be right. I think they
can be a running football team, and I think Dak
in the offense can throw the ball all over the yard.

(37:03):
I think it all can happen.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Really, Yeah, I'm just you know, we've seen Dak's best seasons,
just like twenty fourteen, round with Dak's best seasons. He's
had really good running game. You know, why was he
so good as a rookie. Why was he able to
pass the ball still well and play so well as
a rookie was because he had a dominant run game,
dominate offensive line. So I actually that's where it starts,
and that's that's just what I want to see.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, and I appreciate it. Thanks, thank you for the call, Dylan.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
And it sounds like you're going to be one of
those that's going to be up there training camp, so
I look forward to seeing you there. But you know,
a lot of times when you look at the running game,
it's like, Okay, they only ran the ball. Let's just say,
like we're here on a Monday talking and say they
only ran the ball seventeen times. Well, that's not a

(37:47):
whole lot, and that's why they lost or whatever. But
that's because in the third quarter they were down and
they lost the game, and they had seventeen rushing attempts
or whatever. But let's say in the third quarter they
actually drove down and took the lead and then maybe
got a turnover, and then they played some of the
fourth quarter with the lead.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Same game.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
But yet in the fourth quarter with the lead, they
had two or three drives in a row where they
were predominantly running the ball, and next thing you know,
they had twenty eight rushing attempts.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Same game.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Just a couple of little plays here and there in
the third quarter changed the mindset, and now they had
twenty eight rushing attempts, which is a lot of rushing
attempts in a game, so it could that's my point.
It's the same game that they were just playing with
a little tweak here and there. But on Monday we're
talking about them being a running team as opposed to

(38:43):
being a team that didn't run the ball that much.
That's my point about everything is right, everything can be
the same. And I think because Imt did his thing,
Noviachek made plays, Irvin was, you know, always making plays,
Harper had a big one, you know, catch down the middle.
And then in the fourth quarter, Immit Emmitt, Emmitt, Moose,

(39:05):
Emmitt slant Irvin Emmit, and and then the game is
over and Immitt has twenty nine carries one hundred and
forty five yards and looked like they ran the ball
that much. But because they were so balanced early on
that it leads to that. That's kind of what my point.
You do your things in the first three and a half,
three quarters or so, fourth quarter, you can go run
the football and everybody can win. That's kind of what

(39:26):
I'm trying to say. Christ and Saratoga Springs is next, Chris,
what's up?

Speaker 9 (39:31):
How was that birthday?

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Party this weekend.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
It was it was good. I'll I'll just leave it
at that. It was im I'm tired of birthdays. I'll
say that right now. My son's birthdays coming up in
about a week and a half. But uh, yeah, it's
it's been, it's been. Uh, it's been an interesting couple
of weeks.

Speaker 9 (39:49):
Anyways, Chris, you have three birthdays and like, you have
three birthdays and like a month.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Chris's daughter's got a birthday too coming up there, so
hopefully his experience is better than mine. Anyways, Chris Saratory Springs.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Man?

Speaker 10 (40:05):
The Great?

Speaker 9 (40:08):
The Belmont? The Belmont was fantastic sovereignty?

Speaker 11 (40:11):
Wont it?

Speaker 9 (40:11):
Bill Mott?

Speaker 7 (40:12):
It was?

Speaker 9 (40:13):
It was unbelieve It was unbelievable day.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Do you see ever?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Do you ever?

Speaker 16 (40:18):
I do?

Speaker 9 (40:20):
I used to, Well, my dad does more than me.
But we used to see him a lot because he
lived right next to the golf course and we live
like really close to He used to walk his dog.
And now he moved a little bit so he doesn't
live in the same area, so I haven't seen him
as much. But my dad says he does see him
every once in a while sports.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, I think that's where he is up there with
those with those horses.

Speaker 9 (40:42):
Well, for sure, he says it's the happiest place on there.
That's what he has said.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I bet, I bet. So what do you got I do?

Speaker 9 (40:49):
I've been I've been listening to you guys, and I
agree with you one thousand percent. We just got to
move the chain. Doesn't matter how we do it, run, pass,
we just got to move the chain. Get in that
fourth quarter. And I agree with you guard one thousand
percent on that. I do believe that Dak's a better
quarterback when we have a decent running game. It's been
proven most quarter There's not many quarterbacks in the NFL

(41:11):
that can carry themselves without a running game. I can
count probably on my hand, my one hand that can
do that. Dak needs a decent running game in order
for him to be super successful and the Cowboys to
be successful. So that part of it. I think as
long as we can run ball successfully and move the
chains and stay healthy, obviously we're going to be fine offensively.
I don't I really don't have any concerns with that. Yeah,

(41:35):
I do have a question on two players. Don't want
your thoughts on him. Third years are normally big years
for players in the NFL. He got Deuce Vaughn and
you got Ryan Florine. What do you think for those
two guys? Do you even think they're gonna be Do
you think they're going to be a possible rap the cut?
With all the depth we have right now at those
two positions.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, I mean I'm not saying yes to that question.
I'm saying that's a very good question. And those two
players are two that you we were and I'm looking
at Flinoy. Is he already in his third year?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I guess. I guess so.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
I think so.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
First year he was hurt and then he didn't play
at all. Last year he played for most of the season,
So this would be a third year, all right.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I haven't He was drafted in twenty twenty four. Are
you sure we're talking about the same guy? I think Flinoy?
This is second year for Flinoy, is it? Yeah? Either way?
Either way, it doesn't matter. I mean, like he's not
at a point where he's safe. So Flinoy and Deuce
good good good questions There anything else?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Chris? Before I we move on, I'll answer that.

Speaker 9 (42:42):
No, you can move on to the next guy. And
I'm sure there's a ton of people waiting to call.
So we're good, Nick. But I think, thank you for
taking my college Chris.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Thank you have a good day, and I appreciate that,
all right. You know, Duce for sure, Deuce, I mean
they drafted two players at his position out there and
doing some things and and uh mini camp yesterday. I
mean he's he's not a forgotten player.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I mean, uh, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
He he's out there and he's he's doing stuff. It's
going to be an uphill battle for him. He's going
to have to be way better than Phil Maffa. He's
going to have to be better than than Miles Sanders.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That's that's that's really where what it comes down to.
He's going to have a different role than a Javonte Williams,
but a Miles Sanders is the type of player that
you know, that's where if Deuce has to show that
he can be better than that. I mean, I think
blues on the team, I don't even think that's a question.
But as far as as who you've got to beat out,

(43:43):
and it's not just them, it's every other running back
that gets cut or gets available one way or another.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
And that's the way it is with all positions.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It's not just those four or five guys here in
your room that you got to be better than. That's
how you get more practice reps is by beating you
know this them in the practice before and then maybe
you get a little bit more of the next day
and all that. But you know, also making the team
and playing in the games, there's there's other guys that
are gonna get released to You got to be better
than all of them too. So that's why it's a

(44:12):
tough business. Flinoy, you know, that's that's gonna be that's
gonna be a challenging thing. I mean, you look at
what they're doing. I mentioned Cavante Turpin getting more reps.
I mean, I think the biggest competition in in the
room right now for Flinoy is probably Jalen Brooks and Mingo.

(44:36):
I mean those those guys right there, Because you look
at your first two receivers. Tolbert's the third one. He's
not going anywhere. Let the team in touchdowns. Turpens your
fourth guy after that, Flinoy, Mingo, Brooks, Paris Campbell. That's
those four are going to be, you know, all fighting

(44:57):
for for spots and don't look now, but Jay the
Cropper just makes about four plays every practice, And I
mean he's a he's a guy that you could forget
about if if you if you're not watching all the time,
but getting a chance to watch practice, I mean, Jalen
Cropper has made a lot of plays. Not sure who
always going against every time, but you're out there practice,

(45:19):
you're talking, talking to the other guys. You look up
number sixteen is like running at us like and it's
happened multiple times. So can't discount him either. But but
with these guys Cropper, Illinois, Campbell, Mingo, Brooks, maybe Mingo
is a little higher than that, but for what they
gave up, he's going to get more opportunities, obviously. But

(45:42):
it comes down to also special teams. I mean these
your fifth wide receiver. Now your fourth receiver is turpid,
and he played special for your fifth receiver. I mean,
he's he's got to be a part of special teams.
And that's where FLINOI and Brooks I think probably have
a little bit of a of a advantage there.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
But good, good question there.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
It's with with those two guys I mean, it's it's
not going to be easy for them for sure. All Right,
h Irwin in Colorado is next?

Speaker 11 (46:12):
Nick's Nick? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (46:14):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (46:15):
I'm doing good? Doing good? Hey, Nick, I just wanted
to touch a little bit on what I believe Gyllen
was talking about with the Prescott and the run game
and all that. Yeah, I think that I think that
all Cowboy fans could agree, in football fans in general,
that they kind of rely on each other. Good quarterback
needs a run game and vice versa.

Speaker 8 (46:35):
You know.

Speaker 11 (46:35):
With that being said, I think we've kind of all
watched the last couple of years the way McCarthy was
calling plays and how creative they were in the running game.
When I understand Shoddy has a background with you know,
the run game and misdirections and stuff like that, So
I think that's really going to help with you know,
a run game. And quickly, just one more thing, Nick,

(46:58):
Being from Colorado here, I've gotten chance from time to
time to watch Davonte Javonte Williams.

Speaker 7 (47:04):
Yeah, the running we picked up.

Speaker 11 (47:06):
He's pretty damn good running back.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Yeah, why do you think Denver didn't? I mean, I'm
just curious why do you why why did it not
work out more with him? These didn't fit with what
Sean Payton was trying to do or what do you think?

Speaker 11 (47:17):
Well, yeah, no, I think that there's a combination of
a couple of things, possibly that, But he does kind
of have a history of injury. So from what understand,
he's coming into the season pretty healthy. And I think
they just kind of soured on, you know, like probably
most teams do injury wise, when when players continuously keep
getting injured, they kind of you know, kind of like, uh,

(47:40):
you know, not too good in their favor. But that's
what I think. I think that's really what happened with Williams.
But I've watched him play here. This guy is a thumper.
I mean, he'll put it on you. And I just
wanted to get your thoughts on that. Yeah, I really
think he's got a good combination of running backs this year.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. And thanks for calling with
a good perspective there with with Javonte Williams and and
uh and uh you know we're playing for the Broncos
and and kind of what happened there. I I remember him.
I think it was a game against the Cowboys and
and I just remember him just being so physical. And

(48:22):
when when they Clayton Adams talks about what kind of
running game they want, violent type running style, He's the
He's the one that fits that, you know. And now
pairing him up with a Jayden Blue, Miles Sanders type runners,
you know where they can kind of can can do
a little bit of both. But I say this all

(48:44):
the time. If you're going to be effective in this
one two punch you both of those guys have to
do the other just a little bit. You know, you
do need Javonte to catch the ball out of the
backfield some maybe take a sweep on the outside. You're
gonna need a Jayden Blue, Miles Sanders Douce Vaughan to
take the ball right out the middle of third and two.
You know, you got to keep everybody on this. But

(49:05):
for the most part, if Javonte is the thumper, I
think he does it well. But he has to do
a little bit of everything to stay on the field too.
So good good Edition excited to see him running the ball.
Wonder what fans are going to think of that number
thirty three running the football. It doesn't happen a lot
around here, but it'll look good to see that back
in the backfield a game. All right, Josh in Chicago's next?

Speaker 6 (49:28):
Hey, Nick, how you doing good?

Speaker 1 (49:29):
How are you doing?

Speaker 17 (49:30):
Not too bad? I got a point really quick to
making that a question for you. So my point is
I kind of agree with you on the whole weather
that the debate between rob and and Dylan, But I
kind of agree with you. I think what we really
need to be as a team that utilizes our weapons better. Right, Yeah,
you look at Kansas City, Philly or even San fran
before last year. They have weapons in the run game,

(49:52):
the receivers, the tight ends, and they just know how
to use them in the games as the games kind
of progress, and I think that that's something that if
Shaun Heimer.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Does well, we'll have success with.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I agree.

Speaker 17 (50:02):
Whether that's whether we're yeah, whether we're throwing thirty times
or running thirty times, it doesn't matter. As long as
we're moving the chains, we're utilizing our weapons. The question
I have for the offense is I think Booker is
probably going to be the starter, but does Hoffman have
a role maybe in some jumbo sets or even as
as a fullback. Sometimes I think he's quick. I think

(50:22):
he's the type of guy who can, you know, get
after and be kind of violent and maybe check in
sometimes as a as a receiver out there on the line,
and you know, kind of what Detroit's done in the
past with some of their tackles as well, or Minement
as well, so kind of I thought, I just want
to get your.

Speaker 18 (50:38):
Take on it.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I absolutely love that, Josh.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I I I don't know why I haven't thought that before,
but I think Hoffman could do that.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I mean, I think he.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Would be really good at that, like a lead fullback
at times. Who did the last guy here that did it?
Was I want to say, was it McGovern? Connor McGovern?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
A lot of that.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
I think Hoffman's an athlete. I think he would be
really good at.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
That that role.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah, again, if they do that, that's not anything you'll see,
you know, they they'll practice it, and then the PR
team will come over and tell everyone, you know, don't
don't report anything like that. Of course, a lot of
you know, if it happens to training camp, people will
see some of you guys might see it.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
But yeah, I think I think I like that that that.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Role of a maybe a defensive tackle or another offensive tackle.
But yeah, I do like having some some more beef
in there. And I've always thought it was a good
idea if you have the versatile players that can do that. So, yes, Hoffman,
that could be a good role for sure.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Let's tell the coach that I'm gonna talk to him.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
I'm kidding, I'm not doing.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
That, please do.

Speaker 17 (51:52):
And the thing I like about Hoffman in that position,
especially if they winne him up that fallback, is it's
kind of how quick he can get up to the
second level and being the lead I think for somebody
like Blue, they might be able to really spring some
good runs or even turpin back there.

Speaker 9 (52:04):
You know.

Speaker 17 (52:04):
Yeah, that puffman line up and just blow somebody up
would be awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Well, if you tell them that you're not probably not
good enough to do that, and you're probably not quick
enough to go and hit these linebackers and and and
to get off the ball that quick, you're probably just
not good enough, which is what it sounds like he's
heard his entire life and it just motivates him like okay, yeah,
I mean he is a hold my beer a type
of player, you know, like, oh okay, you don't think so.

(52:31):
All right, well that's cool, and he's probably motivated like
hell with the drafting of a booker, you know, so,
But yeah, can you get in there?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Can you?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Can you mix it up? You think you could play fullback?
I think you could.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
When we snap this ball, you can get off the
ball quick enough and don't get hit by the running
back behind and get that linebacker in the hole. And
then when you do, let him know that you did,
because that's going to be the fun part is just
the collisions. And so I love it. I think it's
a great idea. Should we should implement that ourselves? All right, Josh,

(53:05):
good stuff. I mean I've always liked that big defensive
tackles or another offensive linemen. It's better than your third
tight end, you know. And when your third tight ends
a guy that is supposed to be out there and
and help you. But think about when you when they
go to three tight ends, how often do they really
pass out of that? I mean it's not it's not

(53:28):
often where they say, all right, we're gonna fake it,
we're gonna go play action, and these three tight ends
are going to go in a route. The three tight
ends are your guys that you're gonna get out there
in thirteen personnel and you're gonna run the ball. Are
those tight ends that the Cowboys have had are they
better at block or blocking the defensive ends and linebackers
just because they're tight ends. I'll say it all times.

(53:48):
Just because your tight end doesn't mean you can block.
And just because you're a big you know, just because
you're a guy like Hoffmann or something like that doesn't
mean you can do it from that fullback position or whatever.
I always like that tackle eligible player as long as
they report, because if you don't report, you know, bad
things can happen. You got to report to the refs.

(54:08):
As long as you do that, I think that could
be pretty good. All right, let's go to Irene and
Falls Church, Virginia.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Hey, good, how are you doing?

Speaker 15 (54:17):
Good?

Speaker 8 (54:18):
Good?

Speaker 12 (54:19):
Hey, I'm gonna pivot real quick because Josh's call triggered
something for me. Do you guys, I know you're joking
that you're gonna talk to the coaches. Is there a
like a written rule or an unwritten rule about things
like that, or does that ever come up where you're like, hey,
this idea, what if do you float things to them? Ever?

Speaker 3 (54:38):
It depends on your relationship with the coach and and
and you know, like if you have a good enough relationship.
But I think it's it's it's done differently than that.
It's it's it's almost like you got to remember coaches
have egos, we all do. But I mean, so it's
it's done more like you know, I'm sure you guys

(55:01):
have talked about this, have you do you guys ever
throw around like different scenarios, different different players, you know,
like its fullbacks and stuff like that, blockers like either
a defensive guy or another lineman. I mean, is that
something you'll do with something else? I guy, like a
Hoffman or something like that. That's how I would approach it,
not like, hey, got a question for you. You know,

(55:24):
I got right, I gotta play for you here. It's
called this Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 (55:30):
That sounds like my job too. And I'm like, okay,
let me build up this right right, yo, so I
can get what I want out of um.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Right. I'm sure you guys have already thought this, uh,
and you're probably working on I'm just curious what would
a guy like Hoffman be good for that?

Speaker 1 (55:45):
You know?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
And so oh yeah, that's something we do. You know,
and then they'll tell you like, oh, you know, we
talked about that kind of stuff, but you know, well
we'll see. That's what they'll say, we'll see. So you
don't really get the answer you're looking for. But again,
it's all about about your But I would never be like,
you know, emailing a plague to on codes and saying

(56:06):
run this.

Speaker 12 (56:07):
Yeah, yeah, a little too much there. Okay, So I
had a question about it sort of, I guess about
mini camp and looking to training camp. I have not
heard much about any of the undrafted free agents, and
I know I think this year's class there's some intrigue,
but less so than in year's past because we've done

(56:27):
a little bit more. You know, George Pickens kind of
blocks a lot of excitement. But Holden is one I
was looking at because I know he's fast, and I
think there's there was some thought that he should have
been drafted. And then just because I'm a uva fan
Neville and his story are interesting to me, He's a
tight end. Has anyone shine I know it's harder in minicamp,

(56:52):
but has anyone kind of sparked any intrigue that you'd say, Okay,
we got to at least keep an eye on on
the list for practice squad for training camp. And then
before we answer that, just in case Chris cuts me off,
I have to take up Ali on his offer. If
if he asked for my phone number, I would love

(57:14):
a Poblio rosary and picture from him, an Ali original
for my mom because.

Speaker 8 (57:19):
She would love that.

Speaker 12 (57:20):
So I had to get that out there. I'll take
your answer off air on the EDF face.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Okay, all right, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
Yeah, I'm not sure what just happened there before. Maybe
there was a conversation that I missed or forgot about
that last part about phone numbers and stuff. I don't know.
But to answer the first part, the football part, holding,
you know, that's a guy that I've seen him, you know,

(57:47):
doing some things. Now I can't I can't tell you
that I've seen a ton of plays that he's made. Again,
it's it's cropper, uh if illinoy mingo. Those are the
guys that I've seen make the most plays. But you know,
this is just one hour a week that we see

(58:08):
they've been doing many you know, this week as mini
camps we get to see all the practices. But you know,
well we'll get to see a lot more training camp,
and that's the thing about receiver. And then then you
get to preseason games too, Like you could be rather
relatively quiet and getting go to a game, have a

(58:28):
sixty three yard touchdown, and next thing you know, you're
you're You're the guy that's at least going to be
on the practice squad. Maybe you make the team. I
remember a guy I can't remember his first name. It
might have been Jaylen, because every other receiver is named Jalen,
but Jaylen Geiton maybe was his name. He was a

(58:49):
local guy, and he didn't do a lot in training camp,
and he was a little disappointing. And then I think
in the preseason game he had like an eighty yard
touchdown at the very end of the pre season and
he still got cut, which I was shocked because I
was like, this will this will get you on the
practice squad, or maybe they tried to get him on
the practice squad. But he goes to the Chargers and

(59:12):
played three or four years. He may still be in
the league. I'm just saying what my point is is
that one play here and there, when when the lights
are on, when there's a scrimmage against the Rams or
when there's a preseason game that that'll move you from
the ninth receiver to like the sixth receiver very quickly.
And on the flip side, you could be having the

(59:34):
greatest training camp be all Oxnard twenty twenty five, and
then don't do anything in the preseason and that'll lower you.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
So it goes both ways there. All right, John and Delaware?
What's up?

Speaker 9 (59:48):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (59:49):
Hey, the guys doing good. I'm pretty good, so e
static about this year. I'm just excited about the all
season time. My birthday is on on Monday. I got
a question, do you have any idea we completely done
with side players this year? Off some of the defense

(01:00:11):
a little bit more?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
John, can you say that one again? I'm having a
hard time hearing you. I heard your birthday was last
week and then maybe what.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
Siding my birthday is Monday.

Speaker 16 (01:00:21):
I'm just wondering any tense that we make any more defense?

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well let's take that off the air.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Thank you, Thanks John, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
For the call. Appreciate it. Sorry I had a hard
time hearing that, but I did. I did get the question.
Are they could they make more moves on defense? Could they?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
They could Will they Yeah, they probably will. They probably
will make more. Now will they be significant moves that
will be across the ticker of you know, whatever you're
watching on ESPN or INFL network. Maybe not, but yeah,
they'll add players, of course. I think I think the

(01:01:04):
two to watch would be cornerback and defensive tackle. But
right now, they're gonna see what corners, see what they have.
They want to see what these guys can do. They're
gonna let mcwamou. You know, it looks like he's a corner.
Now they're gonna let him, you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Know, get out there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
And I mean he's he's a bigger corner and you know,
he's done some stuff in the slot that's been interesting
for him. He gave up a play to Pickens, you know, yesterday,
but again Pickens is tough to cover. I mean, this
is a tough cover for him. So but he's also
you know, mccambo's had his moments too where where it

(01:01:45):
played in the right way and the right scheme.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
He could be interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
But to answer your question, I think what you do
this time of year is you see what you have.
You see if Jay toya it can do something at
defensive tackle, you know, you see what a King Besota
can do defensive tackle, and you're gonna give him some
opportunities because those guys that are out there are out there,
and they're probably still going to be out there at

(01:02:10):
training camp and some some of them into training camp
because they don't want to be at camp in the offseason. Now,
are they getting their bodies ready to be available to sign?
That's that's a question. But this is the time where
you see what you have. You see what Revel can
do at cornerback and see if he's going to you know,
how how ready he's going to be and win. And

(01:02:33):
when you get closer to it, then if you decide
you know what we're gonna need to make a move,
then then you then you make a move. We've seen it,
We've seen it happen with these guys in the past.
We've seen Anthony Barr sign here in training camp. We've
seen Jason Peters sign at the end of training camp.
We've seen Lennval Joseph sign. You know, that was that
move has been talked about for like three months, but
they wanted to see what they had there and they

(01:02:55):
also I don't think Lenval Joseph had any interest in
signing until when he did. So, there's a couple of
different scenarios happening there. Let me go ahead and get
robbed from Vegas in because I need to go to break,
but don't. He's established to the point where I don't
want to keep it holding brob what's that mean?

Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
Hey?

Speaker 19 (01:03:14):
Nick? How's everything good?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
You're getting referenced a lot in this show? I don't
know if you've been hearing it.

Speaker 19 (01:03:21):
Yeah, I was listening Dylan. Dylan's my guy. He's he's
a fellow New Yorker, So I listen, am I right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
But everybody everybody's right here, like like, you're not saying
you want Dak to throw it forty times?

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Do you?

Speaker 8 (01:03:39):
No?

Speaker 19 (01:03:40):
Because that means we're probably losing, right right?

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Right?

Speaker 19 (01:03:42):
Okay, No, no, listen, I just want to say this.
I know it's a team sport. I know twenty two
guys or whatever, but to me, we all know it's
all about the quarterback. If the quarterback doesn't play good, yes,
don't win, right unless something weird. I'm a Dack fan

(01:04:03):
as a man. His mother up in heaven. She did
a great job. He is a great man, and I
have daughters, and yes, if one of my daughters brought
him home. Absolutely, He's a great man and I think
he's a very good quarterback. I think he is a

(01:04:25):
top ten quarterback when everything is going good. My issue
with Dak is simple, and there's there's three injuries. When
he gets hurt. They're big injuries and they're starting to
stack up.

Speaker 11 (01:04:43):
Now.

Speaker 19 (01:04:43):
I don't believe in well, if you had an injury
two years ago, now you're injury.

Speaker 8 (01:04:47):
Probably no.

Speaker 19 (01:04:48):
But he's had some big injuries that affect his wheels,
like Emma Smith used to say, say, and it never
hurt his legs. When you start to hurt your legs
that affects, I'll set you. My other issue with him
is he plays great against a lesser competition, but his

(01:05:08):
record against good teams is not good. And as a fan,
I always assume we're going to the playoffs. The super
Bowl is the goal, so you have to beat these
good teams to get there. We talked about it. They
have a tough schedule this year, and everybody that's saying,

(01:05:30):
well they're going to go I don't know, nine and
eight or whatever, because they have them losing all the
games to good teams well, and what's the point you
have to beat those teams. And the third thing is
in the playoffs, he just doesn't look the same. And
I'm not I don't blame every loss on him, but

(01:05:51):
when you look at him on the sideline or you
look at him, he looks nervous. He just doesn't look
the same. So that's my knock on him. I need
you to take that stuff. There were players out there
you could we could talk about Jalen Hurts do. I
think Jalen Hurts as is a better thrower than dak No.

(01:06:15):
But in the playoffs and in the super Bowl, he
performs his best. And I give a guy a lot
of credit for that, you know, and everybody says, well,
he's got a great team or well, Troy Aikman wasn't
asked to do a lot. I thought he I know
he could have, but he played in the system that

(01:06:35):
the Cowboys said.

Speaker 7 (01:06:36):
This is what we're gonna do.

Speaker 19 (01:06:37):
We're gonna probably run the ball a little more because
we've got a.

Speaker 9 (01:06:39):
Great old line.

Speaker 8 (01:06:40):
We got on it.

Speaker 19 (01:06:41):
But when when throws need to be made, I need
you to make them. And that's what Jalen Hurts does
that I give him credit for that. And he's got
a ring. So that's my only My worry about that
is I need you to pick it up in the
in the playoffs, because I am assuming this team, if
they stay healthy, should make the playoffs. I think they're
better on paper than they won last year.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
And if they.

Speaker 19 (01:07:04):
Want to run the ball, they don't need to run
the ball more. They need to run better. Last year,
it seemed like you could pencil him in. It was
going to be second down and eighth and I now
it'd be better if it was second done and five. Yeah,
you know, And that's all I'm saying.

Speaker 18 (01:07:20):
Run.

Speaker 19 (01:07:20):
You're never going to be a running team. You have
a sixty million dollar quarterback, a thirty five million dollar
wide receiver, and now you got pickings. There's no way
that the OC is going to turn around and look
at those guys and say I'm not going to throw
the ball. No, you have to throw the ball. You
just have to run the ball better. That's it, and

(01:07:41):
and it will help that. It will help every There's
only like Josh Allen's like the only quarterback that they say, listen,
I need you to do it all. Take out the trash,
make the coffee and do everything else. Even Patrick Mahomes,
as great as he is, Andy Reid understands if we
could run the ball, were way better team. So no,

(01:08:02):
I'm not I'm not saying don't run. I'm just say
run better.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I got it, all right, Rob, thanks for calling in
and saying that I'm gonna hit hit these points as well.
That you that you mentioned. Always appreciative of the call, captain,
one of the captains of our All Storyline team. And
by the way, just so y'all know, and I appreciate
no one asked me, but I will say this. All
of the Yetie mugs went out in the mail this week.

(01:08:29):
They're all out there. So be looking on the lookout
for that. If you made the All Storyline Team for
second or third team, you should be. And everybody who
said they wanted the blue one or the black one,
we were able to accommodate that as well. All right,
the stuff about DAK you know, and about being a
running team and all that, I mean, the big thing

(01:08:50):
about it is is can you run when they think
you are running? When it's when you're up by four
with four minutes to go, oh, and you really want
them to burn timeouts or we want to chew up
some time, and they know you're gonna run it, can
you run it? And that's when I think about the Chiefs.
I remember some games where they in the playoffs where

(01:09:13):
Pacheco they just ran out the clock and everyone knew
they were playing the Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
I think everyone knew they were going.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
To do it, but they still figured out a way
to run it just just well enough, just off the edge,
just enough to to be effective in doing it. And
that's what a good running team is to me, and
and that and I say that and use that example
because I'm pretty sure most of that game, Mahomes and
Kelsey they were doing their thing. But when it's time
to run and you get in the red zone, can

(01:09:42):
you be a good running team there? You don't have
to run all the time, But when it's time to run,
do you have the ability to do that? And the
other points that he made you know about him. The
big injuries, Yeah, they're they've been. They've been big the
playoffs stuff. You know, I think we remember the game.
Was it twenty twenty two season where may had been

(01:10:06):
twenty one. They're kind of getting my years mixed up
a little bit. I think it was twenty two where
Dak the season ended in San Francisco. He threw a
couple of interceptions, didn't have his best game, and you know,
that was a game Hollard got hurt. They ended up losing,
and you know, that's how the season kind of ended.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Was was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Thinking about that and Dak and the offense struggling. But
six days before that, they went to Tampa and it's
overshadowed now because of the San Francisco game, but it
was one of the greatest games any quarterback in the
NFL history has ever played in the playoffs. Statistically, I mean,
it's unbelievable what Dak did that day in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
I think I have to look at it might have been.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Like four hundred yards or a three hundred yard game
with four touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. It's just something
that just hasn't I don't think it had ever been
done by a quarterback. So but he backed it up
the next week in a bigger game, on a bigger stage,
against a better opponent and didn't play well or at
least to that standard, and that's what was remembered. And

(01:11:17):
then you know, so does he have the ability to
step it up and play well in the playoffs. Yeah,
we've seen that, but we've also seen games where you know,
it's just like with any quarterback, it goes how he goes.
I'm gonna take a super quick break. Here, take a break,
come back, and we'll wrap it up, maybe with one
more call.

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Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
There is no eye in Dallas. There is no eye
in heart, either no eye in blue star or a
lone star for that matter, and there's no eye in
how about them Cowboys smear enough knows there's no eye
in football. Football is a wee thing, an experience that
is best enjoyed together with good drinks and good folks
home or away, we rally together, we cry together, and

(01:12:27):
we always rally cry together because there's definitely no eye
in Cowboys. Fans smear enough we do game days. Please
drink responsibly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
To Cowboys storyline. All right back here on Cowboys storyline,
We've got have to move quickly.

Speaker 7 (01:12:48):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Got a couple more phone calls that wanted to get in,
but we do have. Of course, Cowboys break right after
this show here, so we got to move quickly. We'll
go to Robbie Koco Beach, Florida. Robbie, what's up?

Speaker 18 (01:12:59):
A hey man? Two things, and I'll try to make
a click.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I know, I'm long would appreciate it.

Speaker 18 (01:13:06):
Edelman was an undrafted free agent of ours. If I
remember correctly, you're tell wide receivers went on to do
other things with other teams. Edelman, right, I think, so
didn't you play for us for a little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
If he did, I don't, I don't think so. I'm sorry,
I'm gonna say no to that one.

Speaker 18 (01:13:24):
Julian Edelman, Yes, I could have swere it was the
cowboyd for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
And I'm I'm missing something here. Chris, You've got a
good memory to Edelman. No, I know you're scaring me
because I'm getting older.

Speaker 8 (01:13:39):
And I'm like, man, I am too, man I could
have I could have swore it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I think you're thinking of Danny A. Mondola. I think
that's who I am.

Speaker 18 (01:13:49):
Who I'm thinking of. Yeah, you guys are right, my
memory is coming to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Well, that's a that's a fair comparison in a lot
of ways.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
All right, what's up?

Speaker 18 (01:13:57):
And second, I think Troy said it best. It's not
he was announcing a game and it wasn't against the cow.
It's just one of the announcing games. Said the Buck
said to him, he said, well, you guys were a
running team, and he said, no, we passed the ball
in the first half and we're very balanced team, and
we just ran the ball well in the second half.
It made us look like a running team, but we
got the lead and then we ran.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
That's exactly what I was trying to say. Yeah, but
but you don't have him at Smith, so let's be fair.

Speaker 18 (01:14:24):
I agree, and we don't have that line.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
But yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:14:26):
Maybe all right, Hey, happy birthday all your girls in
the mind. To talk to you guys later.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Thanks Robbie, appreciate that. All right, I like it. Let's
go last, last caller, last for Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
What's that man?

Speaker 15 (01:14:40):
Hey, Nick, how's it going out there?

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
Man?

Speaker 8 (01:14:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:14:44):
I got a couple of points and one question. The
first question, how's my offensive our offensive line looking do they?

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (01:14:56):
How's it looking like that? The second point, as I
always say, in our nineties team, we use the offense
as a weapon. So hence the offensive line and hence
running the ball. And I don't mean run the ball
twenty five thirty times, but the foundation of any good

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offense should be running the ball because Dak is a
better play action passer, et cetera, and so forth. And
like I said, once their safeties creep up, you can
throw it over the top and that's all I have.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
I know you got to be quick, man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Thank you, Lester for the call.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
That's gonna be our last call of this offseason before
we get to training camp, so that'll be the last
call that'll be quiet without the mower. No, thank you
for the call. Great stuff. And as far as the
running game goes, like, yeah, it's what I said with

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when you know that you're going to run, that's what
made that team so good. Nate Newton used to tell
the guy in front of him, we're running it right here,
and I'm gonna block you. Moose is coming and then
Emmett stop it and you and you couldn't. And so
that's that's what made them so good. And that's you're

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not going to get that back because you're probably not
going to have that type of running game. But you
got to be able to run that football when when
teams are expecting you to run it, still figure out
a way to to to run it. And you know,
I think I think that that that's what they're that's
what they're establishing, that's what they're trying to do. You

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don't have to turn into a running team. You don't
have to turn it. You don't want to be any
kind of team like that. You want to be a
good offense. You don't want to be a running offense,
a passing offense. You want to be an efficient offense.
That you know, and I say it all the time
about bus drivers. Okay, sometimes bus drivers drive in a

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school zone twenty miles an hour, and your goal is
to not hit anybody and make sure everyone gets there
and on time. And sometimes the bus driver is used
to take the football team six hours to another game,
and you need to get an hov lane and you
need to go seventy five eighty miles an hour because
traffic was bad here. You got to get to the stadium.

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So I know you're the bus driver, but step on it.
That's what an offense should do. There's times you go slow,
there's times you go fast. There's times you're grinding out
the clock, and there's times that we're down by seventeen
and we got to score quickly. If you can do
all of that at some point, that's what's gonna make
them a great offense. And so we'll see if they're

(01:17:46):
good enough to do that. Great show, great calls. Appreciate it.
Gonna miss you guys for the next few weeks. Can't
wait to get started again back in Auxtar. This will
be again our last week of shows. We still got
shows here in the studio for the next few weeks,
including the break here in a few minutes. But it's
been fun as always, Chris Beam, can't do it without you.

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Appreciate everything you do and thanks to everybody. Remember the
Yettie Muggs are coming out. They're out this week, so
you should be able to see them. Maybe I'll jump
on the spaces with you guys on Twitter and join
you guys at some point in the offseason. Have a
great summer. We'll see you in Oxnard in July. See
you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
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