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October 16, 2025 47 mins
We kick off the show with Washington Sports Anchor James Kattato, who brings us the latest inside scoop on the Commanders’ injury report, key absences, and what to expect from their defensive front heading into a high-stakes showdown against the Dallas Cowboys. We break down how Dallas plans to attack a banged-up but still dangerous Commanders defense, especially with the return of CeeDee Lamb, KaVontae Turpin, and Tyler Booker. With both teams fighting to stay alive in the NFC East playoff race, this segment sets the tone for a must-win divisional clash loaded with intensity, strategy, and postseason implications.

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Wonderful?

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Yeah? Sure?

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I think you always yeah, looking like that?

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That's her.

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She got got it.

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not sell it?

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All right? Well up, we don't have enough energy for me.

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I don't like it in there.

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We need energy. Thanks, girls. All right, Well, we got
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Speaker 5 (01:33):
Are you all ready for this? Dunda? But copyright issue
with that?

Speaker 10 (01:42):
There's no better that's ain't it like a cut off?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
That was us? Okay, I don't like the energy.

Speaker 8 (01:50):
We're back, We're back, We're back.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (01:51):
Here he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
But to start the show, we have a local reporter
that covers the Washington Commanders, James Katato, that is joining
the show with us. Thank you so much, Jane's for
hopping on Brie for putting this together.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
How's it going out there?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
Well, first of all, I gotta say I love the
energy of just get up, wake up, right out the gate,
right out the gate. I love it because I'm waking
up too.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Love it right, love everybody up. We got to make
sure everybody's up, you know, like eight am.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
We got to bring some sort of energy right all right, Well,
I'm just just gonna, you know, cut straight to it.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Obviously.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Uh, the Commanders have been without Terry McLaurin, and he
was limited in practice yesterday. Do you know what the
expectations are for him? Can we expect to see him
on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Against the Cowboys.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
Yeah, bottom line, dan Quinn told the media yesterday that
he hoped for Uh, you want to see seventeen out
there connecting with Jadon Daniels. Obviously, if you're a Commander's
fan and for the game, you know you want the
best possible game out there. Uh and kids Herring the
Cowboys man scb back, you know you want the best
receiver for the Commander's lining up on the other side

(03:01):
of the field. So I think that, Yes, while having
Terry back would be massive, and dan Quin is practicing
him and he's hopeful that he's going to be back,
I think it's the depth of the wide receiver room
that I'm more so concerned about when it comes to
the Commanders, because I think Terry's gonna play on Sunday.
But Noah Brown just hit the IR and he's already

(03:24):
been out for the past four weeks, so now he's
gonna miss the combined eight weeks of time for something
that probably could have been placed on the IR weeks ago.
You're leaning on second year wide receiver Luke McCaffrey, first
year wide receiver Jalen Lane, Deebo Samuel didn't practice yesterday,
so I mean, it's like the wide receiver room for

(03:45):
Washington is really banged up right now. If you get
carried back, that's obviously a plus, massive plus, But the
depth of the wide receiver room, that's my biggest concern
right now going into Sunday.

Speaker 11 (03:56):
I'm glad you brought that up, because you know, Deep
obviously so making some noise, but I know he's dealing
with the injury, and it kind of seems like they
might have rushed him out there a little bit before
he was ready, because if I'm not mistaken, the broadcast
had him kind of getting taped up in between certain
pot spots of the game. So is he kind of
looking like he's taking a step back healthwise?

Speaker 6 (04:19):
Yeah, I mean, listen, Debo. It's no secret that Debo
was no spring chicken in this game, right and I
think this is the same can be said for for
Terry McLaurin and his timeline when he got off of
this contract compute. You know, I mean, he kept when
I got the training camp, Terry wasn't there. He was
nowhere to be found, and then it ended up being

(04:40):
a month after training camp that Terry ended up actually
practicing with the team. So you have a lot of
these guys that are not super like I don't want
to say athletically fit with the team yet. But it's like, yeah,
we're six weeks into the season, but we're kind of
only six week's end of the season with some of

(05:02):
these guys, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean
a great example on the defense side of the ball,
Durrance Armstrong leads a team in sacks this season, and
he went off the sideline twice in the Bears game.
He did not practice on Wednesday either, you know, So
it's like, I don't know, I think that this Commander's
team right now was really banged up. Debo again, not

(05:25):
super young anymore, so I think he's just one of
the many.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 11 (05:31):
It seems like those are the three to watch for
the big ones McLaurin, Deepot and Armstrong going into it,
because all the other guys that I saw on the
list kind of just seems like a veteran rest needs
to need an extra day to ramp up, because it
seems like Thursday is your guys, this big day too, right, James,
when it comes to practice.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yeah, Thursday's a big day. That's normally when Quinn talked
to the media one last time just to kind of like,
you know, give a final injury report, so we'll know
a lot more today even than we did yesterday. I
would imagine we get a final call or close to
a final call on what Terry's status is. Yeah, I mean,

(06:13):
you're just I think, at the very minimum, even if
you don't have Dorance Armstrong, you're really just hoping it
a bare minimum that you get you get Terry mccorn.
But I do have to say just really quickly that
you know, Jadon Daniels after the Bears game was like
overly impressed with Luke McCaffery in particular. I hope that

(06:35):
he gets more targets against Dallas because he only had
one target against that or against Chicago and I turned
into a thirty three hour touchdown. He said he was
really impressed with McCaffrey. Jalen Lane is a really really
dangerous special teams and kind of like slop threat for
the commanders. So if it comes down where they have
to trust their younger guys, I don't hate it, but

(06:56):
obviously you want your big guys out there.

Speaker 10 (06:59):
Yeah, So to Hiji, it sounds like there's been some
rotational things kind of going on at that right guard spot.

Speaker 5 (07:08):
I know cosme is like y'all's big dog over there.

Speaker 10 (07:11):
But if I'm not mistaken, he had a knee injury
versus the Bears, and has he been placed on.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Pub Uh, well, Cosmey, you know, Cosmey has been one
of those guys that you feel really bad for. Yeah, right,
because he is that well you know, maybe if you're
not a Dallas ye, if you're a Commander's fan, really
bad for Sam Cosmy. Uh, just just based off the

(07:41):
fact that he has worked a lot to get back
with the team. In the offseason. He was he tours
ac I believe you, towards the atl in the playoffs
last year and that put him out for a really
extended period of time. Now, in terms of their injury report,
their injury report ahead of the Dallas Cowboys, Uh, he

(08:04):
is not on or he's on as a full participant
in practice as of Wednesday, So I would say perhaps
expect him. That would be obviously a massive boost to
Washington's offensive line. Now. Granted, if they don't have him,

(08:25):
I'm not necessarily worried because of Dallas's defense and what
they may or may not bring in terms of threatening
the commander's offensive line, because I mean, we'll call a
spade of spade, you know, right. I mean, so Dallas's
defense is not that great this year, and so I

(08:48):
wouldn't be super worried even if we didn't have Cosme
rolling into the Cowboys game. And it also helps when
you have a mobile quarterback. But yeah, as of right now,
Cosme was a full participant in practice.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
John Kim King is king John Kime?

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Yeah, h K.

Speaker 10 (09:05):
I saw he tweeted out that zach Ert said after
the loss the other night that the players are pissed off.
Is that the sentiment that you're getting out, I don't
nobody got time for that over here. So are you
getting this sentiment that you know, those guys are really
disappointed and then that loss on Monday and that they're
really trying to bounce back on a short week.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yeah, I mean you heard it from Jacory crossky merit.
I mean the facts of the fact of your one
probably tighter grip on the football from Jane and Daniels
away from being fourign two and tied for the top
spot in the NFC East and now you're three and
three instead, Jacory Crossky Merrit was very candid and said

(09:47):
afterwards in the locker room that it sucked. Bobby Wagner
was very candid in the locker room afterwards. Zach Ert,
like you said that the guys are pissed off. You know,
this is this is an interesting food that's mixed with
veterans and younger players, and so the veterans this is
why you really love the fact that the Commanders are,

(10:07):
you know, quote unquote one of the older teams in
the league because you have those zach Ertz, those Bobby
Wagners that are very good at, I guess, controlling the
locker room a little bit right and kind of keeping
a level head for guys that are in their first
year in the league, like a Jaquori, Bill Krofsky Merritt. Yeah,
I would say so. I mean, listen, this is the
team that went to the NFC Championship game last year,

(10:29):
and for all intents and purposes, has very similar pieces
to that NFC Championship For run, there is there is
no reason why they should be three and three. They
should be four and two because they should not have
lost that in Chicago. Straight up, you know this is
this is also a must win game for the Washington
Commanders because their schedule after Dallas is a gauntlet. So

(10:54):
you have Dallas on the road, then the week after
you have Kansas City on the road, which you could
argue the toughest place to play in the NFL, and
Kansas City getting Rashid Rice back, and then you have
Seattle at home. I mean, it's just like you have
and then you have Detroit at home. That's it's a
gauntlet of a schedule. So the Commanders have to play

(11:15):
pissed off. They have to win this game if they
must win games. So I don't mind Zach are saying
that the guys are pissed off because they got to
win this game.

Speaker 12 (11:24):
You know what, you sound just like us, literally, just
like because the Cowboys could have been in a whole
different position as well, if they would have just got
the job done against the Panthers last week, could have.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Been possibly first as well in the NFCS or sorry,
second in the NFC East. But one thing that stands
out to me is a stat that I saw next
Gen shot out to them. Genera the Commanders have generated
pressure with an unblocked pass rusher on eleven point one
percent of their opponents drop backs this season.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
That's the second highest rate in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
But we've got to guy Hello and Dak Prescott, who's
one of the best against pressure. What concerns you the
most about the way Dak is playing right now?

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Everything? We love it, you know, Dak. Dak is an
MVP candidate right now. And for anybody that says he's
not is hating. I mean, he's the one thing that
I will say, you know, is the Commanders when they
get inside pressure. So when they get Javon king Law,

(12:32):
Javon king Law and Daron Payne and on the inside
on the quarterback, they are very dangerous, you know. So,
I mean it's but then again, you have a quarterback
in Dak who is just lighting up the scoreboard. You know,
this is the best offense in the NFL right now.
Adding their number one receiver back, their number two receiver

(12:55):
is playing like a number one receiver right now. So
it's like I think that, especially with the Commander's secondary,
I would be a little weary. That scares me a lot. However,
I would say this, so the Commanders, their secondary in
particular and their defense has been the slow starter of

(13:18):
the two. Their offense. While they have not necessarily scored touchdowns,
every single opening drive that they've played this season, you
know they've gotten the ball down the field Daniels. Daniels
can win in a shootout. We've seen that from him,
so I'm not necessarily worried if it's a game where
the scoreboard is just going up, up, up, up up,

(13:39):
I don't mind that because Jake and Daniels can respond
to that. This is also the first time that Jaycon
Daniels is playing Dak Prescott, so we'll kind of see
what happens. I think he's good at stepping up to
a challenge, but I saw it stat and the Commander's
defense has to get better because they've given up thirty
nine points through six games on the first two drives

(14:02):
of each game.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
So you just taking my rundown.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
I'm taking down you just taking We need you though, yeah,
I do like this is this is a Dallas team
that puts up almost four hundred yards total offense per game,
So it's like and and the Commanders have a bad
passing defense there. They've been pretty porous, so it's like

(14:29):
you you need to get off to a better start.
You need to give Jayden an opportunity. Now, granted, the
offense in Washington, did you know favors in the Chicago game,
they have three turnovers. Those three turnovers in that single
game against Chicago tied the first five game fourth of
turnovers that the offense had all season. So it's like

(14:51):
they're not doing any favors. You have to win the
turnover margin if you're going to beat Dallas. So, but
the defense has to get off to a strong start.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Shootout coming, you ain't.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
I was singing it in my head.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Hey, let's get it done in regulation.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Though I don't have time for that, but I'm yeah right.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Really dope.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
I don't like James. Thank you, Yeah, I know, we
appreciate you so much. Are you going to be out here?

Speaker 6 (15:16):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Maybe not.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
I will not be in Jerry world. I got to
cover some big college football that's happening in our market
this weekend.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's all right, trust me, I know the feeling. Well,
have a great weekend. We appreciate you for hopping on.
You have some good stuff for us, So thank you
so much Bri as well for putting this together.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Good to hear from you.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
I appreciate you, appreciate you. Everybody appreciate you.

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Insight and.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
The Washington Commanders.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
I don't know, I'm sorry, I just feel like to
beat your bike.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Well are you ready with this?

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Yes? Man.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
You have a familiar person running that defense over there,
in a Joe Witt junior, and let me tell you,
the people are not happy with him right now. The
one thing about this game that you know stands out
to me, just initially, just looking into the matchup, is
that Dak is very familiar with this defense that they
run because you ran it for millions, zillions of years, yep.

(19:29):
And that this defense is also very predicated on getting
turnovers and getting pressure with that front seven. The Commanders
are able to get pressure with their front four more
than almost any other defense in the NFL. Right now, however,
we just heard James talk about the laws or you know,
the uncertainty regarding Doris Armstrong, and don't look now, he

(19:51):
is their premier pass rusher five and a half sacks
on the year, you could say six, because I'm sure
he's pissed they gave that half one to somebody else.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
He's top three and run stops top three and pressures.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
I mean, just an efficient year for him. But him
being out is huge for them, you know, because you
also have von Miller on the other side three and
a half sacks, but again he's a little long in
the tooth.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
You have Doron payin Javon Kinlaw in the middle.

Speaker 10 (20:18):
And let me tell you something, the Bears don't want
nothing to do with the interior. So what they did
was attack their perimeter and attack these edges outside of
outside of Von Miller, and you know, obviously Drin's Armstrong
not being there, and that was something that really worked
for them this past game also too. You get to
the second level, my Lord Bobby Wagner and Frankie Louvu

(20:43):
when they line up in that big nickel, and that's
what we've seen we saw here in Dallas is that
when they go into that smaller lineup, Man Chicago caught
them in those lineups multiple times and were able to
run the ball on them with the DeAndre Swift and
really attack the perimeter. Lot of those outside zone runs
were effective for them. Dallas has the ability to we

(21:05):
heard we heard Davonte Williams yesterday talk about the fact
that they weren't physical enough.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
I expect for.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
Him to come out and really want to put his
shoulder in somebody's chest. And Bobby Wagner and Frankie Louvio
have struggled when they when guards are getting up to
the second second level on them.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
I believe that Tyler Booker coming back is gonna be
huge for you.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
This this Russian defense, well, this defense in general, for
the Commanders, they are twenty third and yards per game,
two hundred and thirty five yards per play seventh, they're
giving up seven yards of play.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
They're twenty seventh.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
This this Russian defense is also well, you know, this
Russian defenses is better than what it was last year,
but they are still struggling in certain areas. They also
are very susceptible to explosive plays, which we're gonna get
to that. On the back end, the nickel cornerback Mike
Sanders Still, I studied him coming out the draft. This
is a guy that I thought could play. But he

(21:58):
is struggling in that position. He's given up, he's giving up.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
A lot of yardage.

Speaker 10 (22:04):
He has twenty one open targets giving up at that position.
Marshawn Lattimore is not running the same. That's what I'm saying,
be nice from he's struggling to run the same. And
so Dallas, I do believe, will have the opportunity to
take advantage of the things they have going on on
the back end and also to attacking the perimeter and

(22:24):
those linebackers when they decide to line up in that nickel,
it's it's there. They're susceptible there, and I expect for
Dallas to try to take advantage there. Another thing, too,
is that the Cowboys the cow well, yeah, the Cowboys.
The Cowboys defense, and the Cowboys often the offense has
been very fantastic on third down, They've struggled there in
the last couple of weeks. Dallas has to be more

(22:46):
efficient there and be able to stay on the field.
So my three keys to the game, y'all, are attack
their secondary early. We heard James talk about the fact
that they have given up points in the first on
the first drive of plays, and it's tapered off. So
it started off at the beginning of the season, y'all.
It was they were forcing three and outs and forcing punts,

(23:08):
and then as the season's going on, if they gotten
a little bit more banged up. They have not been
able to get offenses off the field as much. I
would attack their secondary early with my tight ends, with
some of those with some of the crossers, with Turpin
if he's able to do some of those things, and
also if you get cde Land back and George Pickens,
my lord, this is really going to stress that secondary

(23:28):
that they have also too. Went on third down again,
this is a defense that this is a Washington defense
that has struggled on third down. How do you continue
to stay on the field and keep that keep your
defense on the sideline. You have to win on third
down and again attack the perimeter when they are in
that big nickel. I really want to see these tackles

(23:49):
getting up on these linebackers just like Chicago did. Because
Chicago worked them in the run game with DeAndre Swift,
I think that Dallas has.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
The ability to do that. So yeah, that's really the
gist of it.

Speaker 10 (24:01):
They will bring Frankie Louvu up the A gap and
B gap.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
In some blitzing situations.

Speaker 10 (24:06):
I heard you you mentioned yesterday Bree and James mentioned
some of the simulated pressures where they show that they're
blitzing and then they drop guys into coverage. I think Dallas,
I think Dak will be able to read some of
that stuff.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Well, I know he has struggled.

Speaker 10 (24:21):
With that sometimes though even in camp I've seen him
have some issues with that. I hope that he's able
to diagnose at the line of scrimmage and get the
guys in the right spots. But there are a lot
of spots where Dallas can take advantage of this defense,
avoid that interior that's really strong if you can.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
I think that Booker, Booker, what is this gentleman's name?
Why am I forgetting Tyler Smith?

Speaker 6 (24:46):
And none?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
No, no, no, no, who is our center? One of the
Hoffman my board.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
I'm sorry, Brock Brock Kaffman. They're gonna have their They're
gonna have their hands full. They're going up against another
really good defensive end interior. The last three weeks they
have you know, last week they have their hands full,
you know with the.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Browns and A'shawn Robinson.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
This is another good defensive front and the interior that
can take advantage of you if you don't protect well.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
So, yes, that's the gist of it, y'all.

Speaker 10 (25:15):
It is spacing opportunity on the back end, So spacing
opportunity in the run game, Dallas just has to be efficient.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
But I think that they can score points on this defense.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I want to oh the guy. I want to start
with the trenches first.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
When you look at Cowboys offensive line and this Commander's
defensive line, what matchups do you feel like favor the
Cowboys most the offensive line of defensive line. Cowboys offensive
line Commander's defensive line, I would say.

Speaker 10 (25:47):
Like individually, well, given what I saw Darnell Wright do
in the run game, a lot of his temperament and
stuff is very similar to tern Steel. I think that
Terance Steele can have a good day on the ground
if they decide to go and get out on the perimeter.
These tight ends are gonna have to wear their hard
hats and come, you know, block on the outside. But
I think Terrence still I'm not afraid of him with

(26:08):
that matchup with von Miller. I know that von Miller
is still Von Miller, and we have to be respectful
of him. But I think some of the things that
Terrence still struggles with, Von Miller is not as good
at it anymore. Some of the bends, some of the speed,
he's more powerful, so I think that that might cancel out,
especially if he's able to if Dallas and Schottenheimer are

(26:29):
able to get the run game going, I think that
these tackles.

Speaker 5 (26:33):
Should be able to get out in space and do
some things.

Speaker 11 (26:36):
And something that we didn't talk about yet, Cowboys are healthy, y'all.
Everybody practiced yesterday in some capacity for the first time
since Amen. Okay, so we just heard James list off
all the injuries they got going on on both sides
of the ball. So I think if you do see
it's not official yet if Booker's back in there, but
I think that's huge for this game, right because I

(26:58):
think you saw a little starting to see some of
that off last week. One hundred percent. I know continuity
is a huge thing, but the coaches are going to
say this person can go in and fill in for
a starter. But we see what we see. There's a
reason why you have a Beb there instead of hoffin.
There's a reason why that you have a Booker there. Right,

(27:19):
Not to discredit anything that's going on, but I think
that makes me more confident. And one thing that I
read and James mentioned it about the whole team being
a little more older, but defensively they were like one
of the oldest, if not the oldest, on defensive side
of the ball. And I'm glad you brought up von
Miller because I've actually covered him twice and once in

(27:39):
Denver and then in Buffalo, and when he got to
Buffalo after that injury, he just hasn't been the same.
He got back and then we just saw absolutely nothing.
He was a ghost town. And then his final year
he started to pick up. And I remember talking to
one of the coaches there and they were like, even
though to your point, Ahisha, it's not the same guy
that we brought in here two and a half years ago,

(28:00):
but he's I still rather have him here, hear the
next guy, because he's still gonna give me above average
of who I get off the streets. So to your point,
but if you do watch him, he is a little
haftic slower to get to where he to where he
needs to be, if that is. But I want to
when I look at this defense all together, though, it's
going to be the secondary where they're just gonna eat.

(28:21):
I f cde lambs back and any Commanders fan, any
analysts on that side is going to tell you that
that's where they're fear for the most. But obviously it
does start up front. But oh, I'm so excited to
see what they do and eat up the secondary. They
are struggling very much though, Yeah, you mentioned the age
of the defense.

Speaker 10 (28:37):
Well, I would say that their youngest player, Trey Amos.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Their rookie, might be the best player they have. And
that's secondary, my lord.

Speaker 10 (28:45):
Yeah, so and and and and and to people's standards.
You know, Frankie Louvu is someone that I mean, he
really popped off the screen the last couple of years
and the blitzen ability and just to speed, but he's
in more of an elevated role and I think that,
you know, some of that has changed some of his
effectiveness again, like as a blitzer, and they have him,

(29:08):
you know, playing the linebacker position in that nickel spot.
And I'm telling you, y'all the way that Chicago was
able to get up on their linebackers, I really believe.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Dallas should be able to do this.

Speaker 10 (29:21):
But they gotta be clean, because these guys are you know,
Lulu is someone that can slip through tackles and to
still get up fields. So I'm looking for Dallas to
really be physical this game because I think they can
obviously take advantage of, you know, the passing stuff. But
in order to run the clock, to not have this
offense for the Commanders that can score, that can run

(29:44):
the ball on the field, Dallas is going to have
to establish a run game. They struggled with that last week.
How do they bounce back and try to do some
of the things that Chicago did last week?

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Well on Monday love it all?

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Right, let's go to the secondary. Who what mat do
you think? Favorite? The cowbars?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
My lord?

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Honestly, if we're being real, like I'm not trying to
be funny, mostly all of them.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
They're all struggling. And you mentioned Marshall Lattimore.

Speaker 11 (30:11):
He's a little bit like he's very hot or cold,
like there's no in between with him this season, at
least with his second year. My biggest nose is he's
very inconsistent and.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
He will give up the big play. They all will.

Speaker 11 (30:26):
Touch his point. Yeah, and I think that's huge. With
CD coming back, and it really does sound like he's
trying to come back. I'm excited to actually hear from
him later this afternoon. But even Kavante Turfin him coming back.
We're talking about an older defense. Well, when you get older,
you get slower. I think speed is going to be
the key in Cavante Turfin coming back.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
I think is huge for this game.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
And I know it's been a bit a little silent
in the running back room for a rookie running back
Jaden Blue, but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets
some fantasy points to some people this week because I
think speed is gonna kill the Commander's defense.

Speaker 10 (31:02):
Yeah, you also mentioned I mean, I mean, I think
a very important thing to talk about as well is
their blitz rate and their pressure rate and some of
the things they do. Talking about the running backs, Brie,
you just mentioned Jayden Blue. If he's out there, the
blitz pickups better be picking ups, you know what I'm saying.
Javonte Williams also to these guys have to be aware.

(31:24):
This offensive line has to be aware in communication with
the way that the commanders are.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
And especially to y'all, if Dorrin.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
Armstrong's not out there and these guys don't feel like
they can generate pressure at the same clip with just rushing,
for expect for them to blitz and Dallas has to.
I'm not worried about the quarterback, but I am making
hopefully making sure that guys are communicated in these pickups,
that they've been reading their keys, that their communication to
this offensive line that's getting healthy. Like you said, Brie,

(31:53):
that you know that continuity continues even though they're coming
together after some of them not being on the field
for a little bit.

Speaker 11 (32:00):
Yeah, offensively for the Cowboys, this is everything that you
could ask for going into this matchup. I know nobody
says must win game in Week seven, James did for
his team. It's in our heads, right, Like, this is huge.
I asked some guys in the locker room yesterday and
they admittedly, this one does brig anytime you're going against
a divisional opponent, you're gonna have a little more juice.

(32:20):
But because of where this could place us after this week,
if we get it, like we.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Understand the assignment, basically, no, this is.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
A big game.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, I have both I mean both teams.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
As he said, guys in the locker room saying that
they were pissed off. You had guys in the Cowboys
locker room as well in postgame talking about they were
pissed off. So we're gonna get two pissed off teams
facing off against each other on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
I don't know if that's good or bad.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's like it's they're so mad enough for me, right, Yeah,
I mean I need to see more.

Speaker 10 (32:51):
Dallas needs this win because of the NFC standings as well.
You know, you've lost to two NFC teams. You don't
have the room to drop. And then also too, you
could really insump sense. You know, somebody's getting buried after
this game. You hear me, whoever loses this game, that's fair.
I really wholeheardly believe playoff implications and anything that you're

(33:14):
looking for in the future. This is when you start
making some decisions on how you know, do you need
to go attack at the trade deadline or do you
need to do anything like this? This game it has
heavy implications for the futures of these two different teams
because Washington expected to be better than what they are
right now, and that's what James was saying, like they
expected to be better than what they are right now.

(33:36):
Dallas feels like, to your point earlier, Nicole, Dallas feels
like they've let some of these games slip through their fingers. Dang,
I guess we both got the same story the Bears.
We should have beat the Bears. That's both of us,
both teams, like we shoulda beat the Bears.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
But you talked about with over there being under fire,
and somebody had mentioned it, like if you look at
metrically where they sit with some of their stats, maybe
we would trade with them in a heartbeat, very much
in a heartbeat. So that's to your point of expectations.
That's how high they are over there, because this is
a team that expected to make a deep playoff run
because they were able to exceed the expectation.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
With the rookie quarterback.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
Now there's a lot of you know, with this second
year understanding.

Speaker 10 (34:16):
You know, you gotta pay guys and all those different things.
But yeah, it's crazy because they are opposite in a
lot of ways. Yeah, you're talking about like they are
opposite in a lot of ways. Like Dallas, your pass
offense is thriving, their secondary is struggling. Their run defense
is pretty goodf your run offense.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Is pretty effective as well.

Speaker 10 (34:37):
Like at some point in time, something's gonna have to
cancel out. That's just where we are, Like the Commander's
offense is not it's twenty ninth on third down. The
Dallas defense is thirty second on third down. So I'm
just looking at it as magnets, like something is going

(34:58):
to have to cancel out. I think it comes down
to the turnovers and then also to start and field position.
I believe special teams, that's the element we don't talk
about enough. Yeah, it's gone. I think special teams is
gonna be huge in this game as well, and where
these guys end up starting and ending.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But they but they've proven that they can still drive downfield.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
It's just about finishing in the read zone for the
Cowboys for the most part. But we're gonna take our
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Wow, I can't even talk. I got excited.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
She got too excited.

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Speaker 5 (38:19):
And it's time.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
To bring the receipts.

Speaker 10 (38:23):
Yeah, like that and the good ones too, like the
CVS one is the long the last a long one
and it got coupon at the bottom they do, And
I always is it that long?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
You have to use it with like in four days?
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
They just be wasting paper for they do.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Their digital now. They always send me an email receipt
by the way.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Aren't you.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
But you got to have the receipts, y'all.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
It's kind of like a like the screen shots.

Speaker 11 (38:43):
You don't know if you'll ever need to bring it
up from October of twenty nineteen of what happened like
two thousand and three. It's got to start keeping the receipts.
That part in the locker room, they say a lot
of good stuff. But outside the locker room yesterday to
start the day, we heard from Brian Schottenheimer of course,
and this game, I don't know if you heard, but
it's the first three y kickoff from home game from

(39:05):
the season, which we know what that means. If you're
please die hard Dallas Cowboys fan. Okay, because it came
up last year. But we just talked about last segment
the Commander's defense. Well, there's going to be another defensive
opponent out there in the end zone when the sun
is shining through AT and T Stadium windows. Yes, it
was an issue. Yes, it was talked about.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
So of course it was asked about yesterday to coach.

Speaker 7 (39:30):
You know, I've been here for a little while and
I've heard about it. You know, hey, look, we have
we really do. I mean, you know, if you guys
could see the process and plan that we have in
place to figure it out. I mean, we have satellite imaging,
we have pictures of the sun when it's coming down,
and so there's a there's a there's a big plan
in the process. But I think when you look historically

(39:51):
at what's happened, it really hasn't affected uh, you know,
many situations and we planned for it, the opponent's planned
for it. But at the end of the day, it's
something that we're aware of and it's very beautiful. It's
majestic almost when the sun comes through there.

Speaker 11 (40:09):
So it's beautiful and I can't wait for I used
to to dive into this in a few seconds, but
I got to go to my next topic because this
is something we've talked about for the last couple of days,
and your mom kind of brought this up to us too. Okay,
George Pickens, he was the highlight of the talk yesterday,
how much fun he's having.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He actually said.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
His hurdle to y'all.

Speaker 11 (40:31):
He said, that wasn't that was in the mid range
of all the things he's done, and we were all
laughing because we thought it was fantastic. He's like, I've
done better. I could do better, So stay tuned on that.
But we've been talking about how they're going to pay
this man. He's playing elite football and as he keeps
growing in this league, in this offense, he's probably going
to be a top paid receiver coming into the next season.

(40:53):
So the big question was does he want to stay here?
Is the contract on his mind?

Speaker 6 (40:59):
He said that you've been better than expected. He would
you be open to stay here long term?

Speaker 16 (41:04):
I wouldn't mind it, Like I said, the guys in
the locker room. Super cool.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
The energy is great.

Speaker 16 (41:09):
But like I said, I always, you know, want to
showcase my talents most definitely really say all that because
I'm definitely in the middle of the season, so like
I'm not fully fully thinking about it. I kind of
just want to keep going and see how far we
can get and see it as far as playoffs and
stuff like that. But definitely, you know, keep on the improver.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 11 (41:27):
Those are my receipts for y'all to start with me.
I love that they had me something to think about,
especially when somebody says they wouldn't mind staying here.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I need the little more. That's okay, we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
It's fine. He's he's very humble, very much.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
I love I love him with him dude.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
But you know, George Pickens, actually this is a cool
stat one of five players in the last thirty years
with five hundred plus receiving yards and six plus receiving
touchdowns in his first six games with a new team.
He joins Randy Moss and Terrell Owens and Amari Cooper
with that accomplishment. But just talking about GP, you know,

(42:04):
I was chatting with CD and I.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Was like, brow, how is shot?

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Are you gonna like balance?

Speaker 12 (42:08):
How?

Speaker 6 (42:10):
Like? You asked?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Did you look stressed like this?

Speaker 7 (42:12):
Brouh.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Literally, I was just like, bro, like, what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (42:14):
He was like, dog like, I don't know, because what
he's been able to showcase is basically what I've been
able to do, you know, my entire career, luckily here
in Dallas. And so he just gave high praise to GP.
He's like, bro, I don't even care. Like what I
love about CD is that he's not selfish. You know,
of course he wants to help his team win, right,
but he's not selfish when it comes to wanting to

(42:36):
always be the guy to make the play. And him
and GP have become so close to where he's like,
dog get it, how you live? So I'm sure, he said,
he's sure that Shoddy has a plan for how they're
gonna be able to evenly distribute the ball, but it
don't really matter because we gonna both make you pay so.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
And that's big.

Speaker 11 (42:54):
Yeah, you don't always get that with other We've seen
other teams. We don't have to call anybody out in
our division in here that's been struggling, right, with personalities
and things like that. And to your point about CD,
you know they just want to win. Well when they're
talking about this contract. Part of his answer UH to
a separate question but still the same topic.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
What are you most interested?

Speaker 11 (43:16):
What is gp looking for for a team for that
long term because you know you're getting paid wherever you go.
Is it winning? Is it the money, is it the environment,
who you're around? And he said, straight up, it's the winning.
So I believe it. I believe I mean, of course
the money's probably yeah, like I'm not coming back, but
like chump change, but it's the winning.

Speaker 10 (43:34):
So at him saying I wouldn't mind it made sense
to me. I mean, I know a lot of people
are like you wouldn't mind it, like you want people
wanted more, something more definite.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
But he also followed up and said, I'm in the
middle of the season. Yeah, like I'm not.

Speaker 10 (43:48):
And I know guys say they're not really thinking about
it and stuff like that, but I know that it
might be in the back of his mind, but this
is he He clearly cares about winning games. He's been,
He's been, you know, an other places where they weren't
consistently they were winning, I guess, but he really wants
to get into the playoffs, make noise, he wants to contribute,
So I understand his sentiment. Now, Shady not you saying

(44:12):
that it ain't affect the game.

Speaker 11 (44:15):
I just remember that meme that was like everywhere it
was like a picture taking the turn too a meme?

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Was it? Was it in CD's eyes.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
I think it was.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
But it's subsiding.

Speaker 10 (44:24):
There are former there are players from your team that
have talked about it, there are players from other teams
that have talked about having to prepare for it. I'm
all for trying to have an advantage if indeed it
is shining in the direction of, you know, the side
that the other opposing teams coming from, or whatever the
case may be. However, when it's affecting your offensive efficiency,

(44:45):
which I've seen in my lifetime multiple times, and it's
something that is that can be controlled, that's the most
frustrating part about it, because it has I remember I
think it was the same frame game. It really did
make a difference in that game, and you had players
come out and be like, I couldn't see.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
I'm like, oh, nugget, I couldn't see.

Speaker 10 (45:04):
And so you know, I know Shoddy understands. He's it
was a lot of sarcasm and and he's being a
little facetious, like I know he does. I know he
knows it really affects the players.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
So I wish I had crazy.

Speaker 11 (45:15):
Nobody else has to deal with that in around the
league except for because how this.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Stadium and there's no reason, like there's.

Speaker 10 (45:20):
Truly no reason, real reasoning for it at this point,
I wish I had, especially since they have curtains.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Esthetic.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
I wish I could make this bigger.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
But it was a meme of ayesha, wait what I mean?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
No, it's fine because that was like the perfect.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
You saved it before.

Speaker 11 (45:38):
I look crazy, It's okay, Well, it makes it makes me,
makes it lighthearted, y'all jump.

Speaker 15 (45:49):
To me.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
I would like for him to be I would like
for pickets to be here.

Speaker 10 (45:57):
I think if it's regardless, regardless, so what Dallas does
on the defensive side of the ball, you have a
lot of your offensive guys returning, I would.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Not don't mess up this offense.

Speaker 10 (46:08):
Yeah, just keep it how it is and if because
you're still gonna need to even if the defense gets
better next year or whatever you decide to be. It's
gonna be an acclamation period, score all the points until
they can come on with it.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Well, hopefully they come on with it on Sunday three,
twenty five, kickoff against the Washington Commanders. We're gonna be
breaking down some more film tomorrow on Friday and a bus.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yes, Christie Still if she's gonna come with it.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Joins the show with her own segment as well. It
will be our Friday segment for Christie. But that's a
wrap to they show for Brianna Aldridge, Aiashan Morrison.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I'm Nicle Hutcherson.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
We'll see all back here tomorrow at eighty DUNT.

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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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