December 30, 2025 • 47 mins
The ladies break down HC Brian Schottenheimer’s press conference from yesterday and dig into what really stood out—from his tone to the clarity (and gaps) in his messaging. Plus, it’s time for some accountability: the ladies hand out end-of-season letter grades for the Cowboys coaching staff and explain who met expectations, who disappointed, and who still has something to prove going forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 5 (00:42):
Ladies, what's popping?
Speaker 6 (00:43):
Good morning?
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Wake up? Okay? Is it really?
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Don't be a little bit louder here?
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Don't do the good let me tell you it up?
Keep it up?
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Thanks?
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Good?
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Yeah? Yeah, sure, but yeah positive? How are you? I'm great.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's a lovely morning Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
You know game days on Sunday at noon you have coffee.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
No, I don't drink coffee like that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It's crazy. I know, it's just me natural.
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What you get? What you get?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Man?
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Cool.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Shout out to everybody watching, watching on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I know we'll be getting a few more viewers shortly
Twitter as well. We got a lot to talk about
shoddy speaking to the media yesterday, and of course a
lot of different big topics there, but of course the
number one topic is whether or not Dak Prescott will
be playing. That was actually the first question that was
asked yesterday by Calvin. Let's go ahead and play the
(01:45):
SoundBite if we have it.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Chris planning on finishing strong and having Dak play and
again get a chance to go five and one hopefully
in the vision finish eight eight and one. And you know,
that's the planners we're looking at now.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The opportunity for Joe Milton to play as well, again,
we'll look at that again.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
The biggest thing for me is, you know, put the
game plan together and hopefully I have another great week
of practice and focus on getting a prep. You know
how much respect I have for this this team and
this defense that were getting ready to play Elite Front seven.
And but yeah, well we'll see how the week goes.
But you know, uh, right now, the plans to play
Dak easy.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Decision or hard decision, I mean another game means something
that doesn't mean something, and else you want to see
some young guys at times, by the well.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I think they all mean something you know, that's where
I would say they I think they all do mean something.
You know, we're being evaluated on the whole season here,
and you know we're proud of the fact we've played
well against the NFC East opponents and get a chance
to play another one this weekend. But yeah, I feel.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Good about it.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You hear from Shady as you just said, Dak will
be playing.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
As to be expected. We heard from Dak.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Of course, he's been getting that same question that he
wants to play, And I don't know how to feel
about that, but I usure that's what we're talking about, ladies.
How y'all feel about that? Should y'all see Dak.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
In the final game of the season, bray I said
going into week sixteen when.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He was trying to sit down last week, Yeah, I
kind of hate it because I don't think the.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Reward of him being on the field is worth the risk,
just because the obvious his age, his two season ending
injuries has already had the foundation that this team has
proven on Like, you're going into next season with a
lot of confidence in this offense and a lot of
confidence in this front office on who they can bring back.
(03:43):
And even though if you know, in Javonte Williams doesn't
come this is a pretty dang good offense. Still, I'm
not going to say the Pickens things because I refuse
to believe that they're letting that man walk out the door.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
But regardless, like you have all the.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Pieces, this is what you wanted, and now let's figure
out the defense.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
And now you're not that far away from the ultimate goal.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
So it seems to me, I just have like it's
like a little anxiety, like worst case scenario.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
We all know what that is, right, Yeah, nobody wants that.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
I do understand though as the competitor side, I mean
to be fair, Dak also wants to go for it
on fourth down every time.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
He told us that a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
That's not the greatest decision, right, But that is the
competitor in him, that is the athlete in him. So again,
of course he wants to go out there with this
team against the Giants. How many wins the Giants have
I don't even know against you know, like, and you
know it's gonna be competitive because we saw what happened
the first that was Shotty's first win. Like this is
you know, I understand all of it, but still I
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hate it, especially when you have Joe Milton there, like
why not give him the reps?
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Right?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Like?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Why not?
Speaker 8 (04:51):
Like nothing is hurt and I'm I'm like kind of
looking as a preseason game.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like I would be.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
And I understand like getting his start and getting his
numbers or whatever he's trying to. I know there's like
a stat out there that he's almost at too, that
he could get. I saw one of the writers tweeted, yesh,
and I can't think of what's that mean, Dak. He's
hit every every one of them, I feel like already.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But his incentives and stuff.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Yeah, no, it's like a it's a stat that he
would be an another stat. Yeah, you know like today,
I feel like we see him every week because he's
that great. But I just, yeah, I don't. I just
don't feel like it's worth it. Get him out there,
let him start, and then take him out.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, which is what I think to your point, which
is what I think is more likely to happen, is
like they gauge how the game is if it's one
of those things that he doesn't have to play, and
then he does play. But I'm not surprised with Shoddy's comments,
I was I didn't think that they weren't going to
allow that to play or he wasn't gonna sit out,
but I did think that there was a chance that
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maybe he didn't play, and especially that you have your
left guard playing left tackle right now, and to be fair,
he did not have the best showing this past week.
And so with what's going on to your point, Brabell,
what's going on with your tackle position, specifically your left
tackle position going up against this defensive front who I
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don't care what you say, Like Shoddy said it, I
wouldn't refer to them as elite. But the one thing
about Giants, baby, they they might be, but their front
seven always has some players on it, some guys that
can get after it, some guys that can get to
the quarterback. So I'm I'm a little surprised. I'm a
little surprised. I understand pretty much every side of it.
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I am a little cautious because another thing, too, is
that you are going up against a team like this
is bring you said preseason game, and I know people
get offended when you say that type of stuff sometimes,
but it is kind of like that. Furthermore, you got
guys on the other side that are trying to earn
their checks or put their you know, put themselves in
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position to go to other teams and get good tape
as well. So this is I expect for it to
be competitive, like you said, Brie, and I am a
bit worried about what's going on with the quarterback, especially
with their past rush and also what's going on with
your your tackles.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And that's the point is people are playing to.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Have jobs next season on both sides of the ball,
and if they're going to be coming for him.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
This is someone who took six sacks last week last.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Week, and he last week he's got he got lit up.
I mean, I tweeted. I was like, Lord Dallas, y'all
lucky decade made a straw because he has taken some
brute I mean, I could be wrong, but this is
one of some of This is one season where some
of the sacks he have taken, he's taken have been
a lot more brutal to me then I feel like
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he's taken in a while. So maybe it's because we
didn't see him played that much last year, but is
getting older stacks to hurt, he'd be just popping up.
I'll be sitting her stressed, like do I'll be waiting.
I'll be sitting here waiting like.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And last week it came from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Usually we can pinpoints from interior or just the tackle situation,
but it came from left tackle, right tackle, inside, just everywhere.
But you talk about Joe Milton, who's only played three games,
of course, brought in late against the Chicago game Denver
Chargers game, and I remember when, of course we had
a luxury and a backup quarterback when Dak Prescott was
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down with injuries, you had a Cooper Rush. Right now,
you don't necessarily know what Joe Milton is at the
NFL level, considering he has not played a lot of
NFL football games. Granted he's played preseason games, but talking
about real live game action, that's a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And you just never know in.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This league because you see it around the NFL, you
see it on the team.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Play, but even like looking at the injuries we face,
like throughout the entire team, you gotta have some security case.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
So I think that honestly, like, I.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Don't want to see that, respectfully, Yeah, I don't want
to see that.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I don't necessarily either. It's it's very weird, like I
want them to you know, this is the last game
of the season. These guys aren't going to touch touch
the football field for a long time, and that is
I know, you two ladies are former athletes. I'm sure
that that's hard for them, Like this is something that
like carries them, and so it's not just you know,
like obviously we're thinking about the health and things like that.
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Like for some of these guys, this might be the
last time they suit up together as a team, and
so it's like I want to be empathetic to their experience.
But then I'm also like, like Brie said, the office
is something you are the least. It's the lesser of
the two. When you're what you're worried about going into
the next season, into this offense, you feel like you
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have a better foundation there. Quarterbacks say, ouch, all of
that changes, and so I agree. And you made such
a fantastic point, Nicole about the pressure last week coming
from all different places. The Giants defense is defense that
will blitz as well. And that's the thing that I
was kind of thinking about, is what is gonna be
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Javonte's status because that's something that is huge because of
the past protection and so if Jamond they don't go.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
If your brother can't go, you can't go.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And that's kind of how it feels when it comes
to Javonte. This year has been to me. I know
he has, He's been one of the best running backs
in past protection and he does so much of the
little dirty work, a lot of those big plays that
you see Dak make down the field to George Pickens
and see he's the guy, and the blitz pickups, and
not having him out there, not seeing that Elie Davis
didn't step up and make some decent plays last week
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in past protection is not the same. It's not the same,
and so it kind of like is a Tuessie thing
like I'm gonna be a little tight well, you know
finding out what's happening with Johonte is his he going run?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's that's a big part.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
But you know, one question about this whole thing that
I feel like it's silly and it's like I never
think as a as a part time professor, no question
is a super question. But there is something about hearing
how does the momentum of this.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Game carry into next season.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It doesn't.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It drives me nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It doesn't. I don't think that it please. I don't
think that it does. I don't think that it really has.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
A looker said the same thing last night.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
He was like, honestly, like, it don't.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It doesn't grant you don't want to finish with a
losing season. You know, you want to finish with a
better record, but like, it don't.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Really, it's so many months away.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Yeah, and ended last season that didn't carry over into
this season. You get some of the best teams in
the NFL right now that you're like.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
When did they get good?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
You know, this is like you know, Dak said, like,
and you're to your point. This is going to be
the last time this group plays together because it's gonna
look different. But when people when when I and it's
like she being.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
There with me, I'm just like when I hear that question,
I hate you. Yeah, I really do. I'm tired over
the next season, tired.
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Was a little lower.
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Speaker 3 (14:37):
And wait, got let me says better, let me tell
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with something like that. I'm not even gonna get a
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Speaker 5 (14:52):
Okay, are you really?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
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Wynn better stop playing.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
If you could pitch, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, he's he's like a lot of the safeties
that we look at now are like literally built off
of the way he played. Yeah, he literally was like
a blueprint. So yeah, straight like that, straight like that.
That's why Dallas needs to be looking at safety. All right,
what would you say? We're about to do something else.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Get back to that next week after the season's over
with all right, draft man, Yes, she is weird.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The judgment by.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
She's already both of you all the door. She said.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He's all about them, like the rest of them, like.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Their thing I listened to. I'm like, I don't. I'm
not there yet. I don't like this.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I'm not completely there. I'm not completely there.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I don't want to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'm having to get there because I gotta.
Speaker 13 (15:50):
Draft.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
You missed Christy yesterday she was like, I refuse to
talk about the draft. She did say that she's staying
on business. You know, she do the business of stand.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
You're not playing all right, we're gonna your coaches gratings.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Are you all ready for this?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I just feel like I need to do all right.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
We're gonna start at the top head.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Coach Brian set Are you just starting yea period or
you want to do him last? No word, let's do first?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
All right? What's your great?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Don't she don't look at my paper? I was tease us.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Don't remember when they used to.
Speaker 12 (16:25):
It was so.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It was serious. But see like I and cheat, I
do that.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Anyways, I would say, I would say C plus C
plus because you will right now seven wins if you
finish A and one. Okay, you're finishing it with five hundred.
You brought in a good coaching staff offensively for the
most part. Uh, your offense has been at the top
of the league, you know, in the NFL, but your
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defense has been at the bottom of the league the
entire season. So granted your offensive course carrying over into
twenty twenty six, you have the pieces. Uh, it depends
on if you maintain a Javonte Williams of George Pickens
a lot of other guys and yeah, I'm gonna go
C plus just because granted is your first year head coach.
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Your philosophy is there, what you want to do.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But mm hmm, she grades harder than me.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm shocked give them because I thought you was giving
like d because you come on professional.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I'm a fair professor. Okay, come on, professor, I go.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I know, no B minus, no B plus, A solid B,
A solid B B. Way Ain't a B B is
like average? Yeah on a grading scale.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Have you seen a grading scale these days?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
And s's in my house. You couldn't go out. I
don't get no.
Speaker 14 (17:51):
Yeah, But like I thought, it was like, sorry, don't
I'll breaking bring it like story, But I can't.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
No, I think for a first time head coach, and
remind you who who literally, like honestly like who was
hyped up he.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Was going to be the head coach?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Nobody?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Okay, so how has that changed?
Speaker 8 (18:18):
He changed his own narrative and he could have only
seven wins going out realistically, m he could have eight whatever,
that's not really impress this to us, and he can
say he didn't have a losing season if they were
able to get this win in New York on the road.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, the defense has held him back. I mean that's
what that's what's holding the whole team back.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But what if they.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
They've been through so much this season, they could have
you know, they this team was hit with the tragedy,
you know. Yeah, that's that's the huge they They could
have used that. I don't want to say it's an excuse,
but you could have seen it affect him on the
field and it didn't. And I think it has a
lot to do with who's in front. Some of my
friends don't even like really watch NFL day to day,
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but they like to watch the videos of Shottenheimer after.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
A win as Dewey.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Everybody I've talked to going even from starting an Auxnard
because obviously Shotheimer has been a part of this organization.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
They had like this little.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Like smirk to him, like y'all, y'all gonna see y'all
don't see why we're bought in now in August, right,
And I think for someone who is able to also
step up and kind of take accountability each week, even
when it's rough and gets rougher, he doesn't kind of
hide away from other questions.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
He doesn't sugarcoat it too much.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
But he also does in a way where he doesn't
throw any player or coach under the bus.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
He's very careful with that, but.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
It's not But I also he always gives you something
that's real that's hard to find a balance. There's been
there's a lot of coaches who don't have that right
and then he's just.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Able to do it. You wanted to see with this offense.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Yes, there's some calls, and I know I used just
talked about it. You know, there's some it's kind of
like the growing pains of figuring out the confidence wise
and all that kind of stuff and your personnel. But
there's also a guy who's had to have his hand
in the defense and be in that room. So I
looking forward if they do make a change or if
they don't whatever. I feel like, if this is someone
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who doesn't have to have their hands so much in
the defense, who is a natural offensive play caller and
can really get in his bag and focus on his
end and have that more of a trust, because I
think there is a lack of trust there obviously is
without saying it. If you gotta be you gotta come
correct my work and make sure I'm doing my job
every week something you didn't do in the beginning of
the season. That's why I give him a solid bee.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
If we're in the playoffs, I bump it up. Well,
see like I was just great in the field production
like him.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Again, I s plus because I was just great and
like the production. But if we're grading like as a whole.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Seeing my graduate program, don't graduate. You don't want a
different we're grading. We're grading like everything I said, like
a B minus.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But if we're grading, just like production, because at the
end of the day, like he even said himself, we
want to win a championship.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
We want to build a winning program.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Shut up, that's crazy, she's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I need to use the please.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
But if we're great the production. I'm gonna go to
see Plus.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But Shoddy as a whole in the way that he
has carried himself and through everything, absolutely a B. But
if we're grading, you know, of course the wins lost
Calle defense in the defense.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, ce plus it's gonna be a C for me.
Dog a straight up sea and I like it. It's
interesting because you said, like, you know, like who who thought?
Who thought?
Speaker 15 (22:12):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Who was excited about Shoddy? I wasn't excited at first,
but it didn't take me long to like remember some
of the interactions I had had with him, just hearing
him in the hearing him in the pressor's talk, talking
to players in the locker room about him in the
past years, and I was like, Okay, he clearly has
a vibe to him. It was a lot to be
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seen at that point. I think as a play caller,
he's shown himself to be one of the best in
the NFL. I think that's hard, especially come out of
He's had to find the balance of being a head
coach and a play caller. But that's the thing is
that he's he's he's obviously a good play caller, but
he's also the head coach, And unfortunately, the way that
football works is with stuff that happens under your watch,
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it happens under your watch. So special teams has not
played incredibly great this year, and the defense has been
a huge pitfall this year. And so as much as
I want to, you know, be like super excited and
just kind of hone in on the offense as a
head coach, unfortunately you're responsible for all of what's going on,
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despite you know, you not asking for certain people and
stuff like that too. But and I do agree with you, Brie.
I think once he gets someone in here, possibly that
he trusts a little bit more and stuff, then it
will balance things out. But overall, I feel like it
was a good starter season. Like Bree said, they have
been through a lot some key injuries. I mean, it's
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hard to forget that you lost a star defensive player
to start the season seemed to unexpectedly as well. So
I'm kind of in that place where I like, I
want to give him a higher grade. It would be
a higher grade if it was just about him and everything,
but him being the head coach when they when they
talk to him about what's going on like that he
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knows that he knows that as the head coach that
no matter what happens under his watch is on him
to some degree. So that's why I would give it
a strong see.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Yeah, and I think for me, when you're talking about
like the defense as well, Clowny your best pass rusher
somehow Someway is because of their connection in him, like
that one person that we can kind of like say
not I don't want to say growth, but was that unexpected,
didn't cost too much, was a good surprise, and now
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it's someone they want to bring back.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Right on both sides.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
It seems like I think they talked to him in
the locker room recently about that that's that's that's that's
Scott Shoty's print on it and actually a good piece
for this defense seeing what else.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
They bring next year.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, and it's worth talking about, like what the staff
that he was that he assembled, which is what I wanted,
nice that he helped assemble. And if I'm not mistaken, I
could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that one of
the reports when George Pickens was acquired was that Shoddy
was adamant about getting a wide receiver too and here
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for the Cowboys, and that he's spared. He spearheaded them
actively seeking a wide receiver too. He's been around, like
you said, but he's been around enough to see that
Dallas has not had a consistent person outside of Seed
Lamb and the fact that that was something he wanted
to make a focal point on. I think also to y'all,
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like what do we need to what we need to
do to like get this team out of like being
one of the most penalized teams in the NFL. Because
I'm at this point like hear me out, like I
it would be different if it was one regime. No,
You've seen it with multiple regimes, multiple coaches, multiple different coaches,
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Like how do you get because the penalties were killer
this year and unfortunately penalties are a reflection on the
head coach. It just is just this, like guy's got
to do their job. Guys got to do what they're
supposed to be and do what they're supposed to do
and be disciplined. But one thing about Shoddy, I remember
him in a camp. He was really big about the
discipline side of things. He didn't care about kicking guys
out of practice for fighting and stuff like that. And
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then they got out there we won. They squabbled it.
It was squabbling and I was like, wait, wait, wait, no,
good it. So it's like, what do y'all think because
I'm thinking about that in the umbrella.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
I think that's a question, a very fair question, and
it's something I feel like you don't to your point
of how many coaches have come in here in camp.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It's always a problem.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
I feel like that's an I almost when you're an
athlete and you're in it and you can't see it.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Or I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
I feel like that's almost like a good conversation to
have with a former player. Yeah, because when you're in
it and you're next to the same the guys making
the same mistakes week after week, the coaches, to your point,
can't figure it out not I don't know. I don't
know how they address it because I think going back
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and listening to the questions and Oxen are about asking that,
especially talking about Tyler guy in the most penalized. You know,
that's a line going into the season, it's like more
of the discipline, Well, what is that?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
What is does that look like?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Because I thought that was a focus you know too,
and from what you know. I was only in Oxnard
for half the time, but from what I heard from
the beginning, he was ripping everybody equally, yeah right, making
them Yeah they hadn't I think Christy has that. I've
been here for twenty seven seasons. I've never seen them
just stop and just start doing sprints because of you know, discipline,
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So I don't.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I don't know how you It's how do you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Keep it going throughout the season, because it's not like
you can just stop and do that in the small
amount of time that they have.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
To practice that they're allowed to practice.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
And we saw a kind of penalties too, because I'm
talking about I'm about.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Preashing up the guys, guys lined up in the neutrals,
and I expected, like, don't get a twist with the
offense specifically, I expected, you're taking an uptick in motions
and shifts and things you're doing schematically, a lot of
things that you have not done before when it comes
to the offense. So I expected for there to be
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a little bit of an uptick. But no, like this
team has led been top three or led the NFL,
and penalties with multiple regimes with multiple coaches, and I'm
just wondering what's gonna take or who is gonna take,
because I really did feel like and maybe this is
something that can improve on next year. But when I'm
talking about, when we're thinking about the head coach, how
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many Cavante Turpin runs got called back because there was
a hold. There's always a hold on returns. But still, like,
it's just those little things that I'm like, I was
really hoping that he was the person that could get
a hold of it and Dallas to not be at
the top of the list again in penalties this season.
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So sorry, I know that was like a fussy thing.
I just it's something that I factored into what do
I grade him, because that penalties are, unfortunately an indictment
on the head coach. It always is. I mean, yes,
we can go to position of coaches, but when it
comes down to it, it's gonna follow him.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
So that's fair, all right. I want to go defense
or offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Huh uh, let's do it's y'all's choice. Probably do the
offense first of the end.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
With the defense, y'all can have it.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
The defense is fine, spy me, sorry, no, that's not responsible.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's fine.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Clayton Adams who wants to go first?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Went first the last time?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh big K, big K, not the little one?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah yeah. I mean I think I think this is
one of been the one of the best editions of
the season. I mean schematically, A lot of the stuff
that they've done in the run in the run game,
I think has benefited a guy like Jamonte Williams. I
and there's where there's plenty of times. And that's the
thing is like when you go back and look at
the film, you're like, dang, this is a dope play
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called the execution has always been kind of been like
if he I have no complaints about this coach. I
think that I hope that they're able to keep him
here a little bit because I know people are kind
of getting a whiff of him, like, oh okay, he
looked what he's doing down there in Dallas. They couldn't
even run the ball last year at all. They can
run the ball all. So I think he's been a
good addition. I'm sure that he helps balance out Shoddy.
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He does more of the run game coordinating. You can
tell that shot he takes on most of the past
game coordinating. You can kind of see that. I think
they're a good balance, and I think they've worked together
well this year. I also think that he's been limited
with the backfield. I think the fact that you have
not had another number two has limited some of the
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things that I got to see him do that I'm
sure you ladies looked into seeing him do when he
was in Arizona. Dallas really wasn't able to attack the
outside zone as much as I would like to this
year and attack the edges as much. They didn't have
that explosive guy that can break open some of those
screens and things like that. So hopefully we can see
him open up that a little bit more next year.
But I'm this is one of the best hires across
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the NFL this past year.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
To me, Yeah, I was kind of like interested.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
I think we talked about it when he got hired,
because it's always kind of tricky when you have your
OC or even a DC and they're not the ones
calling plays, because how much influence do you really have,
how much control, how much input? But from what Shoddy
says every week, it sounds like they found their balance
and then you saw the production on the field able
to sell their balance again, when you go from sure,
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wish we could get you know, the run game, or
we're celebrating when the Cowboys actually can rush over one
hundred yards, I remember that those were hard times and
stats we're crazy like I can't think of I just
remember them ongoing and the national just can be like
this is the most consecutive I'm like, yeah, we know
they're not reaching what they need to get. But when
you're talking about growth in the offensive line and just
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how they start the season, like it took a while
to have a healthy offensive line. Was it I don't
remember what week it was. Was it for healthy, for
not for healthy? The only had Terrence Steele was the
only starter that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Was only constant.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Yeah, And that says a lot, right, And I like
the fact that when he's asked about Nate Thomas and
things like that, he's like genuinely excited about this off
season because he's like, I see things and I see
some criticism, but you guys aren't seeing the full picture,
and if I could just correct these tweaks, this.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Is going to be a different person next season.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
And he said some things, some bad habits about even
a guy like Terrence Steele, who could be who is
a starter here and will be a starter somewhere else
if contract situations don't go as planned or what have you.
But just saying like it's fun to see he's all business.
But it's I think you know what I mean the
way he talked, right, it's person to tell he's having fun. Yeah,
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don't be smiling a lot, but he's having fun.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
That's how he did with said remember he put a song?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, he was like, you said he put a song.
He put us on out.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You remember at the beginning, I'm sorry you said put
excuse me, put us.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
But no, man, I thought you said, like put a song.
So I'm like, wait, what.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Remember before the Philly game he was like, I remember
y'all about to see it, y'all about to see And
I like that about him where he's like he's to
your point. He has a confidence in the guys he does,
and he exudes it when he talks. So I Clayton
all right with me.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I think it's also like Clayton is so good with
knowing his like personnel. Yes, he emphasis emphasizes schemes that
don't just is like what he wants to do. But
it's what fits what he has. You knew you were
coming in with a Javonte Williams with Granted, we was
all sitting up here like we don't.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Know what he gonna be because he was just in
last year.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
But Clayton Adams was like, this guy's got vision, this
guy's shifty, he can do it all, and his scheme
fits that. His offensive line, of course, has allowed this
rushing offense to be ninth in rushing yards per game,
tied for eighth in rushing yards per play, which granted
Dallas was.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, the bottom of the NFL last year, but that's
what Clayton does though. That's what it was in Arizona.
They were top ten in almost every run game category
that existed, and he's translated that here. Another thing too,
I know we got to move on, but another thing too,
is the fact that Javonte Williams. I remember hearing him say,
I understand what's going on. Yep, I'm not just out
there running, I'm reading and things like that. And I
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think that goes into the offensive line coach and also
the OC, the run game coordinator, getting him up to
speed and making it digestible for him.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
So wait, So what's your grade did you take?
Speaker 10 (34:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
My bad, we didn't give grade grades.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
We just grat on the elaborate. I was gonna be it.
It's it's gonna be a for Clayton for me.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna go be minus, be plus, not be plus.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go be plus because I
feel like we still get to see him on lock
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah, I almost y'all, y'all really do great hearted.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
I'm so sorry it comes to gra and I'd be like,
I tell my students, if you show up and you
at the borderline and give you a mill.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Students great baby.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
They'd be on breaks, are like, hey, I'm scared to
see what I literally.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
She cool.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I don't get to show up and give your best.
Y'all are sick. We're gonna take our segrem Wait, what's
your grade?
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
You know she can't help it.
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That's crazy. I'm soft. I got to look at my books.
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Audrich, Aishan Morrison.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
All right, who you'll want to go next?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Give you all the options.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I think we have to go defense. Are we still
doing an offense? So we just because we want to.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Do all right, cool, let's go defensive coordinator. Let's stick
coordinator coordinator, and then we'll go are you ready?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
All right, cool? Don't don't look at me like that.
All right, Mattie Reflus, huh.
Speaker 13 (38:56):
Raise here turning your first.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
And she's a nice grader, so she says, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Than I hate to do it. I don't like feeling.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
How they how they do, how they do. When you
were in college, but they put a W withdraw. I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
That's early in the seasons you got. That's deadline. We
stuck this out to the end on.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Academic count.
Speaker 13 (39:25):
I was on for right.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
I couldn't do that. That's wild.
Speaker 8 (39:28):
Yeah, I mean we all know this. This isn't a
this isn't a passing grade. I don't think for anybody
at the table it would be a D.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
For me.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
Dog, I don't get I don't if you show up
every day, I don't give f that's my classroom roles.
But I mean he showed up your classroom. Yeah, I
don't give out. I can't give it out.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
If you showed up every day, what are you teaching?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I need to do?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Let me enroll what classes this?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Let me use my g I B real quick, you
hear me. Listen what classes for lit?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I got three of them? All said agree, listen. I'm
an educator.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
I'm a I'm a I know you can't tell here,
but I'm positive in the classroom.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Okay, I want people to succeed. And he didn't show
up every day. He gave us three.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
He gave us a little run there, coming back from
the bye week where it looked like Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
You wanted to see some changes, you wanted to see more.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Man, you know, like I said, they went through a tragedy,
they came back and I know it was Vegas, but
it felt like surreal and it felt like a different
team that really played for each other through the hardest
times and and they and they kept it going and
then and then the Lions happened and then yeah, but yeah,
(40:46):
I mean, it's hard to defend where you're at statistically
in every defensive category. It's hard to defend that the
Dante Fowlers of the world.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
The Sam Williams, the people that you thought were going
to take that next step.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
The Marislia foul probably bothers me the most, just because
we saw what he could do as a rookie. And
then his snaps if you look over the last couple
of weeks are so low. I mean they've been like that,
but like they've like decreased, right too, snaps last week
and then I don't know how much you guys are
like paying attention. But the Logan Wilson thing, I know
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we talked about yesterday, but it also is starting to
sound like if just from the perception of how it's
coming off, it's like, you know, you could you could
tell that Jerry wants Logan on the field because they
made a move for him, even though seventh round pick,
but they made a move to make this defense better.
He was he let's not forget when we're talking about
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the trade deadline and who was coming. He was hyping
up what was already done after the game, and that
was Logan Wilson. The Quinn thing was still in the works.
He was talking about people who were coming to help.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
That was log We were trying to forget. Why would
you remind.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Because where we are I'm grating.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Please let me work.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Broh, my gosh, she makes me lose my train of thought. Look,
you said Logan Wilson.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yes, that he was getting hyped up and Jerry was
hyping them up.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yes, okay, so thank you back.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
So recently, it sounds like Jerry Jones with Logan Wilson.
He was I'm not going to say like upset, but
he had questions on why he wasn't out there and.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Then to go to shoddy and hits.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
He said he kind of said, we have to like
we have to do better with that. Like he almost
like they didn't communicate, and that is with him and
Eberflus about why this man didn't touch the field.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
That's scary. That's something we're not talking We're not gonna
talking about.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Communication on the field. We're talking about it on the sideline.
Like it really Legit sound like he had no idea
that man had.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
It was the rotation.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I messed up for me, so they said, that's what
they said, and then that sound.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Those are those types of things where I'm like, it
doesn't sound like.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
He is the guy who's gonna be here next season, just.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
Like those conversations and those statements, you know, because a
lot of stuff does stay in turn on close to us,
you know. But yeah, I don't know, and that's why
I give him the grade that I give him. And
if he is here, cool, But yeah, it's kind of
hard to imagine from the talks.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
The tones in the.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Last I would say, like three weeks have really changed
since the Lions game. I would say the tone has
really changed. So that's my grade. What you asked.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
You said, d's ma'am.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Saying I don't give I would say I would say
it d as well. I think it's just too much
to overcome. We can talk about the personnel, we can
talk about guys being injured and stuff like that, but
look across the NFL and see teams with lesser talent
that are playing hard, that understand their assignments, that know
what they're supposed to be. I also feel like from
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I just I just like I said, I feel like
it's too much to overcome. I feel like it's too
much to overcome. I feel like it was too much
to overcome from the start with kind of the differences
in scheme and differences. This is a coach that is
very fit, He's very sure of who he is and
very sure of what he likes to do, and it
does not seem like that it's suitable for what they
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had personnel wise this year and moving forward, it's gonna
require a lot of changes. So for me, I'm gonna
say d I have not been a fan. I'm really
not a fan of coaches that are not open to adjust.
It makes me nervous because what are we doing' That's
what football is. I mean, if you don't know how
to adjust, or if you're not willing to adjust in
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this game, it's gonna leave you behind. That's just how
it go and I just feel like that really irritated me.
Speaker 8 (45:01):
Yeah, this year, And I think to be fair, like
listening to how most places work in other coaches when
you have the if you have two differentism schemes ideas,
it's you know, you could have all these assistant coaches
and everybody's in that room, but the DC ultimately makes
a decision on how we're going to attack this thing.
And to your point, I know everybody in that room
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isn't agreeing in saying like, you know, hey, look at him,
like if you see it, and everybody else watching tape
sees it, it feels like he's the one pulling the trigger,
being kind of hard headed, like this is what we're
gonna do, even though it's not working, clearly not working
for whatever reason. And I think he's been given a
lot of grace on the Micah Parsons understanding that was
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your best defensive player who you were expecting to be
on this roster. But I think that's to your point
at some point, all right, he's gone, haven't had him
all camp?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
What else you got? And there was nothing?
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, I got a few more minutes left.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
We like literally one.
Speaker 13 (46:00):
Yeah, mine's simple thirty second passing yards per game allowed,
that's what you rank thirtieth in total yards per game
thirtieth thirty second, I'm sorry, and points per game and
the last four games you allowed opponents to score on
seventy five percent.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Of your drives in the last four games.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Either it's either a touchdown or a field goal. So
I'm gonna go with a D minus. M. Yeah, I'm
gonna go to D minus. But we're gonna keep this
going tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yay, this is cool. I like this.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, it's a great show. It's a line. I'll teach you.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
That's fine me either.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
So we're gonna get into the sist on office on
defense tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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No, I don't drink coffee like that.
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Shout out to everybody watching, watching on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I know we'll be getting a few more viewers shortly
Twitter as well. We got a lot to talk about
shoddy speaking to the media yesterday, and of course a
lot of different big topics there, but of course the
number one topic is whether or not Dak Prescott will
be playing. That was actually the first question that was
asked yesterday by Calvin. Let's go ahead and play the
(01:45):
SoundBite if we have it.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Chris planning on finishing strong and having Dak play and
again get a chance to go five and one hopefully
in the vision finish eight eight and one. And you know,
that's the planners we're looking at now.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
The opportunity for Joe Milton to play as well, again,
we'll look at that again.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
The biggest thing for me is, you know, put the
game plan together and hopefully I have another great week
of practice and focus on getting a prep. You know
how much respect I have for this this team and
this defense that were getting ready to play Elite Front seven.
And but yeah, well we'll see how the week goes.
But you know, uh, right now, the plans to play
Dak easy.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Decision or hard decision, I mean another game means something
that doesn't mean something, and else you want to see
some young guys at times, by the well.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I think they all mean something you know, that's where
I would say they I think they all do mean something.
You know, we're being evaluated on the whole season here,
and you know we're proud of the fact we've played
well against the NFC East opponents and get a chance
to play another one this weekend. But yeah, I feel.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Good about it.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You hear from Shady as you just said, Dak will
be playing.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
As to be expected. We heard from Dak.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Of course, he's been getting that same question that he
wants to play, And I don't know how to feel
about that, but I usure that's what we're talking about, ladies.
How y'all feel about that? Should y'all see Dak.
Speaker 8 (03:08):
In the final game of the season, bray I said
going into week sixteen when.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
He was trying to sit down last week, Yeah, I
kind of hate it because I don't think the.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
Reward of him being on the field is worth the risk,
just because the obvious his age, his two season ending
injuries has already had the foundation that this team has
proven on Like, you're going into next season with a
lot of confidence in this offense and a lot of
confidence in this front office on who they can bring back.
(03:43):
And even though if you know, in Javonte Williams doesn't
come this is a pretty dang good offense. Still, I'm
not going to say the Pickens things because I refuse
to believe that they're letting that man walk out the door.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
But regardless, like you have all the.
Speaker 8 (03:59):
Pieces, this is what you wanted, and now let's figure
out the defense.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
And now you're not that far away from the ultimate goal.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
So it seems to me, I just have like it's
like a little anxiety, like worst case scenario.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
We all know what that is, right, Yeah, nobody wants that.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
I do understand though as the competitor side, I mean
to be fair, Dak also wants to go for it
on fourth down every time.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
He told us that a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
That's not the greatest decision, right, But that is the
competitor in him, that is the athlete in him. So again,
of course he wants to go out there with this
team against the Giants. How many wins the Giants have
I don't even know against you know, like, and you
know it's gonna be competitive because we saw what happened
the first that was Shotty's first win. Like this is
you know, I understand all of it, but still I
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hate it, especially when you have Joe Milton there, like
why not give him the reps?
Speaker 9 (04:50):
Right?
Speaker 7 (04:50):
Like?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Why not?
Speaker 8 (04:51):
Like nothing is hurt and I'm I'm like kind of
looking as a preseason game.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like I would be.
Speaker 8 (04:58):
And I understand like getting his start and getting his
numbers or whatever he's trying to. I know there's like
a stat out there that he's almost at too, that
he could get. I saw one of the writers tweeted, yesh,
and I can't think of what's that mean, Dak. He's
hit every every one of them, I feel like already.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
But his incentives and stuff.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Yeah, no, it's like a it's a stat that he
would be an another stat. Yeah, you know like today,
I feel like we see him every week because he's
that great. But I just, yeah, I don't. I just
don't feel like it's worth it. Get him out there,
let him start, and then take him out.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, which is what I think to your point, which
is what I think is more likely to happen, is
like they gauge how the game is if it's one
of those things that he doesn't have to play, and
then he does play. But I'm not surprised with Shoddy's comments,
I was I didn't think that they weren't going to
allow that to play or he wasn't gonna sit out,
but I did think that there was a chance that
(05:54):
maybe he didn't play, and especially that you have your
left guard playing left tackle right now, and to be fair,
he did not have the best showing this past week.
And so with what's going on to your point, Brabell,
what's going on with your tackle position, specifically your left
tackle position going up against this defensive front who I
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don't care what you say, Like Shoddy said it, I
wouldn't refer to them as elite. But the one thing
about Giants, baby, they they might be, but their front
seven always has some players on it, some guys that
can get after it, some guys that can get to
the quarterback. So I'm I'm a little surprised. I'm a
little surprised. I understand pretty much every side of it.
(06:38):
I am a little cautious because another thing, too, is
that you are going up against a team like this
is bring you said preseason game, and I know people
get offended when you say that type of stuff sometimes,
but it is kind of like that. Furthermore, you got
guys on the other side that are trying to earn
their checks or put their you know, put themselves in
(06:58):
position to go to other teams and get good tape
as well. So this is I expect for it to
be competitive, like you said, Brie, and I am a
bit worried about what's going on with the quarterback, especially
with their past rush and also what's going on with
your your tackles.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
And that's the point is people are playing to.
Speaker 8 (07:17):
Have jobs next season on both sides of the ball,
and if they're going to be coming for him.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
This is someone who took six sacks last week last.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Week, and he last week he's got he got lit up.
I mean, I tweeted. I was like, Lord Dallas, y'all
lucky decade made a straw because he has taken some
brute I mean, I could be wrong, but this is
one of some of This is one season where some
of the sacks he have taken, he's taken have been
a lot more brutal to me then I feel like
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he's taken in a while. So maybe it's because we
didn't see him played that much last year, but is
getting older stacks to hurt, he'd be just popping up.
I'll be sitting her stressed, like do I'll be waiting.
I'll be sitting here waiting like.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
And last week it came from everywhere.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Usually we can pinpoints from interior or just the tackle situation,
but it came from left tackle, right tackle, inside, just everywhere.
But you talk about Joe Milton, who's only played three games,
of course, brought in late against the Chicago game Denver
Chargers game, and I remember when, of course we had
a luxury and a backup quarterback when Dak Prescott was
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down with injuries, you had a Cooper Rush. Right now,
you don't necessarily know what Joe Milton is at the
NFL level, considering he has not played a lot of
NFL football games. Granted he's played preseason games, but talking
about real live game action, that's a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And you just never know in.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
This league because you see it around the NFL, you
see it on the team.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Play, but even like looking at the injuries we face,
like throughout the entire team, you gotta have some security case.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
So I think that honestly, like, I.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Don't want to see that, respectfully, Yeah, I don't want
to see that.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I don't necessarily either. It's it's very weird, like I
want them to you know, this is the last game
of the season. These guys aren't going to touch touch
the football field for a long time, and that is
I know, you two ladies are former athletes. I'm sure
that that's hard for them, Like this is something that
like carries them, and so it's not just you know,
like obviously we're thinking about the health and things like that.
(09:28):
Like for some of these guys, this might be the
last time they suit up together as a team, and
so it's like I want to be empathetic to their experience.
But then I'm also like, like Brie said, the office
is something you are the least. It's the lesser of
the two. When you're what you're worried about going into
the next season, into this offense, you feel like you
(09:49):
have a better foundation there. Quarterbacks say, ouch, all of
that changes, and so I agree. And you made such
a fantastic point, Nicole about the pressure last week coming
from all different places. The Giants defense is defense that
will blitz as well. And that's the thing that I
was kind of thinking about, is what is gonna be
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Javonte's status because that's something that is huge because of
the past protection and so if Jamond they don't go.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
If your brother can't go, you can't go.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And that's kind of how it feels when it comes
to Javonte. This year has been to me. I know
he has, He's been one of the best running backs
in past protection and he does so much of the
little dirty work, a lot of those big plays that
you see Dak make down the field to George Pickens
and see he's the guy, and the blitz pickups, and
not having him out there, not seeing that Elie Davis
didn't step up and make some decent plays last week
(10:48):
in past protection is not the same. It's not the same,
and so it kind of like is a Tuessie thing
like I'm gonna be a little tight well, you know
finding out what's happening with Johonte is his he going run?
Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's that's a big part.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
But you know, one question about this whole thing that
I feel like it's silly and it's like I never
think as a as a part time professor, no question
is a super question. But there is something about hearing
how does the momentum of this.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Game carry into next season.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It doesn't.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It drives me nothing.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It doesn't. I don't think that it please. I don't
think that it does. I don't think that it really has.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
A looker said the same thing last night.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
He was like, honestly, like, it don't.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
It doesn't grant you don't want to finish with a
losing season. You know, you want to finish with a
better record, but like, it don't.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Really, it's so many months away.
Speaker 8 (11:36):
Yeah, and ended last season that didn't carry over into
this season. You get some of the best teams in
the NFL right now that you're like.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
When did they get good?
Speaker 6 (11:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
You know, this is like you know, Dak said, like,
and you're to your point. This is going to be
the last time this group plays together because it's gonna
look different. But when people when when I and it's
like she being.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
There with me, I'm just like when I hear that question,
I hate you. Yeah, I really do. I'm tired over
the next season, tired.
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Speaker 3 (14:37):
And wait, got let me says better, let me tell
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with something like that. I'm not even gonna get a
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Okay, are you really?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
He made the finals? This list again? Kim and Jason
Wynn better stop playing.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
If you could pitch, what would you say?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, he's he's like a lot of the safeties
that we look at now are like literally built off
of the way he played. Yeah, he literally was like
a blueprint. So yeah, straight like that, straight like that.
That's why Dallas needs to be looking at safety. All right,
what would you say? We're about to do something else.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Get back to that next week after the season's over
with all right, draft man, Yes, she is weird.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The judgment by.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
She's already both of you all the door. She said.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He's all about them, like the rest of them, like.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Their thing I listened to. I'm like, I don't. I'm
not there yet. I don't like this.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I'm not completely there. I'm not completely there.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
I don't want to be there.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'm having to get there because I gotta.
Speaker 13 (15:50):
Draft.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
You missed Christy yesterday she was like, I refuse to
talk about the draft. She did say that she's staying
on business. You know, she do the business of stand.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
You're not playing all right, we're gonna your coaches gratings.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Are you all ready for this?
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I just feel like I need to do all right.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
We're gonna start at the top head.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Coach Brian set Are you just starting yea period or
you want to do him last? No word, let's do first?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
All right? What's your great?
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Don't she don't look at my paper? I was tease us.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Don't remember when they used to.
Speaker 12 (16:25):
It was so.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It was serious. But see like I and cheat, I
do that.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
So there's that.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Anyways, I would say, I would say C plus C
plus because you will right now seven wins if you
finish A and one. Okay, you're finishing it with five hundred.
You brought in a good coaching staff offensively for the
most part. Uh, your offense has been at the top
of the league, you know, in the NFL, but your
(16:52):
defense has been at the bottom of the league the
entire season. So granted your offensive course carrying over into
twenty twenty six, you have the pieces. Uh, it depends
on if you maintain a Javonte Williams of George Pickens
a lot of other guys and yeah, I'm gonna go
C plus just because granted is your first year head coach.
(17:14):
Your philosophy is there, what you want to do.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
But mm hmm, she grades harder than me.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'm shocked give them because I thought you was giving
like d because you come on professional.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I'm a fair professor. Okay, come on, professor, I go.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
I know, no B minus, no B plus, A solid B,
A solid B B. Way Ain't a B B is
like average? Yeah on a grading scale.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Have you seen a grading scale these days?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
And s's in my house. You couldn't go out. I
don't get no.
Speaker 14 (17:51):
Yeah, But like I thought, it was like, sorry, don't
I'll breaking bring it like story, But I can't.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
No, I think for a first time head coach, and
remind you who who literally, like honestly like who was
hyped up he.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Was going to be the head coach?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Nobody?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Okay, so how has that changed?
Speaker 8 (18:18):
He changed his own narrative and he could have only
seven wins going out realistically, m he could have eight whatever,
that's not really impress this to us, and he can
say he didn't have a losing season if they were
able to get this win in New York on the road.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, the defense has held him back. I mean that's
what that's what's holding the whole team back.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
But what if they.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
They've been through so much this season, they could have
you know, they this team was hit with the tragedy,
you know. Yeah, that's that's the huge they They could
have used that. I don't want to say it's an excuse,
but you could have seen it affect him on the
field and it didn't. And I think it has a
lot to do with who's in front. Some of my
friends don't even like really watch NFL day to day,
(19:05):
but they like to watch the videos of Shottenheimer after.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
A win as Dewey.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Everybody I've talked to going even from starting an Auxnard
because obviously Shotheimer has been a part of this organization.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
They had like this little.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
Like smirk to him, like y'all, y'all gonna see y'all
don't see why we're bought in now in August, right,
And I think for someone who is able to also
step up and kind of take accountability each week, even
when it's rough and gets rougher, he doesn't kind of
hide away from other questions.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
He doesn't sugarcoat it too much.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
But he also does in a way where he doesn't
throw any player or coach under the bus.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
He's very careful with that, but.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
It's not But I also he always gives you something
that's real that's hard to find a balance. There's been
there's a lot of coaches who don't have that right
and then he's just.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Able to do it. You wanted to see with this offense.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
Yes, there's some calls, and I know I used just
talked about it. You know, there's some it's kind of
like the growing pains of figuring out the confidence wise
and all that kind of stuff and your personnel. But
there's also a guy who's had to have his hand
in the defense and be in that room. So I
looking forward if they do make a change or if
they don't whatever. I feel like, if this is someone
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who doesn't have to have their hands so much in
the defense, who is a natural offensive play caller and
can really get in his bag and focus on his
end and have that more of a trust, because I
think there is a lack of trust there obviously is
without saying it. If you gotta be you gotta come
correct my work and make sure I'm doing my job
every week something you didn't do in the beginning of
the season. That's why I give him a solid bee.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
If we're in the playoffs, I bump it up. Well,
see like I was just great in the field production
like him.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Again, I s plus because I was just great and
like the production. But if we're grading like as a whole.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
Seeing my graduate program, don't graduate. You don't want a
different we're grading. We're grading like everything I said, like
a B minus.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
But if we're grading, just like production, because at the
end of the day, like he even said himself, we
want to win a championship.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
We want to build a winning program.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's what.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Shut up, that's crazy, she's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I need to use the please.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
But if we're great the production. I'm gonna go to
see Plus.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But Shoddy as a whole in the way that he
has carried himself and through everything, absolutely a B. But
if we're grading, you know, of course the wins lost
Calle defense in the defense.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, ce plus it's gonna be a C for me.
Dog a straight up sea and I like it. It's
interesting because you said, like, you know, like who who thought?
Who thought?
Speaker 15 (22:12):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Who was excited about Shoddy? I wasn't excited at first,
but it didn't take me long to like remember some
of the interactions I had had with him, just hearing
him in the hearing him in the pressor's talk, talking
to players in the locker room about him in the
past years, and I was like, Okay, he clearly has
a vibe to him. It was a lot to be
(22:34):
seen at that point. I think as a play caller,
he's shown himself to be one of the best in
the NFL. I think that's hard, especially come out of
He's had to find the balance of being a head
coach and a play caller. But that's the thing is
that he's he's he's obviously a good play caller, but
he's also the head coach, And unfortunately, the way that
football works is with stuff that happens under your watch,
(22:55):
it happens under your watch. So special teams has not
played incredibly great this year, and the defense has been
a huge pitfall this year. And so as much as
I want to, you know, be like super excited and
just kind of hone in on the offense as a
head coach, unfortunately you're responsible for all of what's going on,
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despite you know, you not asking for certain people and
stuff like that too. But and I do agree with you, Brie.
I think once he gets someone in here, possibly that
he trusts a little bit more and stuff, then it
will balance things out. But overall, I feel like it
was a good starter season. Like Bree said, they have
been through a lot some key injuries. I mean, it's
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hard to forget that you lost a star defensive player
to start the season seemed to unexpectedly as well. So
I'm kind of in that place where I like, I
want to give him a higher grade. It would be
a higher grade if it was just about him and everything,
but him being the head coach when they when they
talk to him about what's going on like that he
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knows that he knows that as the head coach that
no matter what happens under his watch is on him
to some degree. So that's why I would give it
a strong see.
Speaker 8 (24:10):
Yeah, and I think for me, when you're talking about
like the defense as well, Clowny your best pass rusher
somehow Someway is because of their connection in him, like
that one person that we can kind of like say
not I don't want to say growth, but was that unexpected,
didn't cost too much, was a good surprise, and now
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it's someone they want to bring back.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Right on both sides.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
It seems like I think they talked to him in
the locker room recently about that that's that's that's that's
Scott Shoty's print on it and actually a good piece
for this defense seeing what else.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
They bring next year.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, and it's worth talking about, like what the staff
that he was that he assembled, which is what I wanted,
nice that he helped assemble. And if I'm not mistaken, I
could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that one of
the reports when George Pickens was acquired was that Shoddy
was adamant about getting a wide receiver too and here
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for the Cowboys, and that he's spared. He spearheaded them
actively seeking a wide receiver too. He's been around, like
you said, but he's been around enough to see that
Dallas has not had a consistent person outside of Seed
Lamb and the fact that that was something he wanted
to make a focal point on. I think also to y'all,
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like what do we need to what we need to
do to like get this team out of like being
one of the most penalized teams in the NFL. Because
I'm at this point like hear me out, like I
it would be different if it was one regime. No,
You've seen it with multiple regimes, multiple coaches, multiple different coaches,
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Like how do you get because the penalties were killer
this year and unfortunately penalties are a reflection on the
head coach. It just is just this, like guy's got
to do their job. Guys got to do what they're
supposed to be and do what they're supposed to do
and be disciplined. But one thing about Shoddy, I remember
him in a camp. He was really big about the
discipline side of things. He didn't care about kicking guys
out of practice for fighting and stuff like that. And
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then they got out there we won. They squabbled it.
It was squabbling and I was like, wait, wait, wait, no,
good it. So it's like, what do y'all think because
I'm thinking about that in the umbrella.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
I think that's a question, a very fair question, and
it's something I feel like you don't to your point
of how many coaches have come in here in camp.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It's always a problem.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
I feel like that's an I almost when you're an
athlete and you're in it and you can't see it.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Or I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 8 (26:41):
I feel like that's almost like a good conversation to
have with a former player. Yeah, because when you're in
it and you're next to the same the guys making
the same mistakes week after week, the coaches, to your point,
can't figure it out not I don't know. I don't
know how they address it because I think going back
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and listening to the questions and Oxen are about asking that,
especially talking about Tyler guy in the most penalized. You know,
that's a line going into the season, it's like more
of the discipline, Well, what is that?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
What is does that look like?
Speaker 8 (27:16):
Because I thought that was a focus you know too,
and from what you know. I was only in Oxnard
for half the time, but from what I heard from
the beginning, he was ripping everybody equally, yeah right, making
them Yeah they hadn't I think Christy has that. I've
been here for twenty seven seasons. I've never seen them
just stop and just start doing sprints because of you know, discipline,
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So I don't.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
I don't know how you It's how do you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Keep it going throughout the season, because it's not like
you can just stop and do that in the small
amount of time that they have.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
To practice that they're allowed to practice.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
And we saw a kind of penalties too, because I'm
talking about I'm about.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Preashing up the guys, guys lined up in the neutrals,
and I expected, like, don't get a twist with the
offense specifically, I expected, you're taking an uptick in motions
and shifts and things you're doing schematically, a lot of
things that you have not done before when it comes
to the offense. So I expected for there to be
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a little bit of an uptick. But no, like this
team has led been top three or led the NFL,
and penalties with multiple regimes with multiple coaches, and I'm
just wondering what's gonna take or who is gonna take,
because I really did feel like and maybe this is
something that can improve on next year. But when I'm
talking about, when we're thinking about the head coach, how
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many Cavante Turpin runs got called back because there was
a hold. There's always a hold on returns. But still, like,
it's just those little things that I'm like, I was
really hoping that he was the person that could get
a hold of it and Dallas to not be at
the top of the list again in penalties this season.
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So sorry, I know that was like a fussy thing.
I just it's something that I factored into what do
I grade him, because that penalties are, unfortunately an indictment
on the head coach. It always is. I mean, yes,
we can go to position of coaches, but when it
comes down to it, it's gonna follow him.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
So that's fair, all right. I want to go defense
or offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Huh uh, let's do it's y'all's choice. Probably do the
offense first of the end.
Speaker 8 (29:21):
With the defense, y'all can have it.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
The defense is fine, spy me, sorry, no, that's not responsible.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
It's fine.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Clayton Adams who wants to go first?
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Went first the last time?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh big K, big K, not the little one?
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah yeah. I mean I think I think this is
one of been the one of the best editions of
the season. I mean schematically, A lot of the stuff
that they've done in the run in the run game,
I think has benefited a guy like Jamonte Williams. I
and there's where there's plenty of times. And that's the
thing is like when you go back and look at
the film, you're like, dang, this is a dope play
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called the execution has always been kind of been like
if he I have no complaints about this coach. I
think that I hope that they're able to keep him
here a little bit because I know people are kind
of getting a whiff of him, like, oh okay, he
looked what he's doing down there in Dallas. They couldn't
even run the ball last year at all. They can
run the ball all. So I think he's been a
good addition. I'm sure that he helps balance out Shoddy.
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He does more of the run game coordinating. You can
tell that shot he takes on most of the past
game coordinating. You can kind of see that. I think
they're a good balance, and I think they've worked together
well this year. I also think that he's been limited
with the backfield. I think the fact that you have
not had another number two has limited some of the
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things that I got to see him do that I'm
sure you ladies looked into seeing him do when he
was in Arizona. Dallas really wasn't able to attack the
outside zone as much as I would like to this
year and attack the edges as much. They didn't have
that explosive guy that can break open some of those
screens and things like that. So hopefully we can see
him open up that a little bit more next year.
But I'm this is one of the best hires across
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the NFL this past year.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
To me, Yeah, I was kind of like interested.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
I think we talked about it when he got hired,
because it's always kind of tricky when you have your
OC or even a DC and they're not the ones
calling plays, because how much influence do you really have,
how much control, how much input? But from what Shoddy
says every week, it sounds like they found their balance
and then you saw the production on the field able
to sell their balance again, when you go from sure,
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wish we could get you know, the run game, or
we're celebrating when the Cowboys actually can rush over one
hundred yards, I remember that those were hard times and
stats we're crazy like I can't think of I just
remember them ongoing and the national just can be like
this is the most consecutive I'm like, yeah, we know
they're not reaching what they need to get. But when
you're talking about growth in the offensive line and just
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how they start the season, like it took a while
to have a healthy offensive line. Was it I don't
remember what week it was. Was it for healthy, for
not for healthy? The only had Terrence Steele was the
only starter that.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Was only constant.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Yeah, And that says a lot, right, And I like
the fact that when he's asked about Nate Thomas and
things like that, he's like genuinely excited about this off
season because he's like, I see things and I see
some criticism, but you guys aren't seeing the full picture,
and if I could just correct these tweaks, this.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Is going to be a different person next season.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
And he said some things, some bad habits about even
a guy like Terrence Steele, who could be who is
a starter here and will be a starter somewhere else
if contract situations don't go as planned or what have you.
But just saying like it's fun to see he's all business.
But it's I think you know what I mean the
way he talked, right, it's person to tell he's having fun. Yeah,
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don't be smiling a lot, but he's having fun.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
That's how he did with said remember he put a song?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, he was like, you said he put a song.
He put us on out.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You remember at the beginning, I'm sorry you said put
excuse me, put us.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
But no, man, I thought you said, like put a song.
So I'm like, wait, what.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Remember before the Philly game he was like, I remember
y'all about to see it, y'all about to see And
I like that about him where he's like he's to
your point. He has a confidence in the guys he does,
and he exudes it when he talks. So I Clayton
all right with me.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I think it's also like Clayton is so good with
knowing his like personnel. Yes, he emphasis emphasizes schemes that
don't just is like what he wants to do. But
it's what fits what he has. You knew you were
coming in with a Javonte Williams with Granted, we was
all sitting up here like we don't.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Know what he gonna be because he was just in
last year.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
But Clayton Adams was like, this guy's got vision, this
guy's shifty, he can do it all, and his scheme
fits that. His offensive line, of course, has allowed this
rushing offense to be ninth in rushing yards per game,
tied for eighth in rushing yards per play, which granted
Dallas was.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, the bottom of the NFL last year, but that's
what Clayton does though. That's what it was in Arizona.
They were top ten in almost every run game category
that existed, and he's translated that here. Another thing too,
I know we got to move on, but another thing too,
is the fact that Javonte Williams. I remember hearing him say,
I understand what's going on. Yep, I'm not just out
there running, I'm reading and things like that. And I
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think that goes into the offensive line coach and also
the OC, the run game coordinator, getting him up to
speed and making it digestible for him.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
So wait, So what's your grade did you take?
Speaker 10 (34:55):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
My bad, we didn't give grade grades.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
We just grat on the elaborate. I was gonna be it.
It's it's gonna be a for Clayton for me.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna go be minus, be plus, not be plus.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go be plus because I
feel like we still get to see him on lock
this stuff.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah, I almost y'all, y'all really do great hearted.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
I'm so sorry it comes to gra and I'd be like,
I tell my students, if you show up and you
at the borderline and give you a mill.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Students great baby.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
They'd be on breaks, are like, hey, I'm scared to
see what I literally.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
She cool.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I don't get to show up and give your best.
Y'all are sick. We're gonna take our segrem Wait, what's
your grade?
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
You know she can't help it.
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That's crazy. I'm soft. I got to look at my books.
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Audrich, Aishan Morrison.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
All right, who you'll want to go next?
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Give you all the options.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
I think we have to go defense. Are we still
doing an offense? So we just because we want to.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Do all right, cool, let's go defensive coordinator. Let's stick
coordinator coordinator, and then we'll go are you ready?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
All right, cool? Don't don't look at me like that.
All right, Mattie Reflus, huh.
Speaker 13 (38:56):
Raise here turning your first.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
And she's a nice grader, so she says, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
Than I hate to do it. I don't like feeling.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
How they how they do, how they do. When you
were in college, but they put a W withdraw. I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
That's early in the seasons you got. That's deadline. We
stuck this out to the end on.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Academic count.
Speaker 13 (39:25):
I was on for right.
Speaker 5 (39:26):
I couldn't do that. That's wild.
Speaker 8 (39:28):
Yeah, I mean we all know this. This isn't a
this isn't a passing grade. I don't think for anybody
at the table it would be a D.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
For me.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
Dog, I don't get I don't if you show up
every day, I don't give f that's my classroom roles.
But I mean he showed up your classroom. Yeah, I
don't give out. I can't give it out.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
If you showed up every day, what are you teaching?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I need to do?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Let me enroll what classes this?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Let me use my g I B real quick, you
hear me. Listen what classes for lit?
Speaker 5 (39:58):
I got three of them? All said agree, listen. I'm
an educator.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
I'm a I'm a I know you can't tell here,
but I'm positive in the classroom.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Okay, I want people to succeed. And he didn't show
up every day. He gave us three.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
He gave us a little run there, coming back from
the bye week where it looked like Okay.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
You wanted to see some changes, you wanted to see more.
Speaker 8 (40:23):
Man, you know, like I said, they went through a tragedy,
they came back and I know it was Vegas, but
it felt like surreal and it felt like a different
team that really played for each other through the hardest
times and and they and they kept it going and
then and then the Lions happened and then yeah, but yeah,
(40:46):
I mean, it's hard to defend where you're at statistically
in every defensive category. It's hard to defend that the
Dante Fowlers of the world.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
The Sam Williams, the people that you thought were going
to take that next step.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
The Marislia foul probably bothers me the most, just because
we saw what he could do as a rookie. And
then his snaps if you look over the last couple
of weeks are so low. I mean they've been like that,
but like they've like decreased, right too, snaps last week
and then I don't know how much you guys are
like paying attention. But the Logan Wilson thing, I know
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we talked about yesterday, but it also is starting to
sound like if just from the perception of how it's
coming off, it's like, you know, you could you could
tell that Jerry wants Logan on the field because they
made a move for him, even though seventh round pick,
but they made a move to make this defense better.
He was he let's not forget when we're talking about
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the trade deadline and who was coming. He was hyping
up what was already done after the game, and that
was Logan Wilson. The Quinn thing was still in the works.
He was talking about people who were coming to help.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
That was log We were trying to forget. Why would
you remind.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
Because where we are I'm grating.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Please let me work.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Broh, my gosh, she makes me lose my train of thought. Look,
you said Logan Wilson.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yes, that he was getting hyped up and Jerry was
hyping them up.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yes, okay, so thank you back.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
So recently, it sounds like Jerry Jones with Logan Wilson.
He was I'm not going to say like upset, but
he had questions on why he wasn't out there and.
Speaker 5 (42:31):
Then to go to shoddy and hits.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
He said he kind of said, we have to like
we have to do better with that. Like he almost
like they didn't communicate, and that is with him and
Eberflus about why this man didn't touch the field.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
That's scary. That's something we're not talking We're not gonna
talking about.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Communication on the field. We're talking about it on the sideline.
Like it really Legit sound like he had no idea
that man had.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
It was the rotation.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I messed up for me, so they said, that's what
they said, and then that sound.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Those are those types of things where I'm like, it
doesn't sound like.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
He is the guy who's gonna be here next season, just.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
Like those conversations and those statements, you know, because a
lot of stuff does stay in turn on close to us,
you know. But yeah, I don't know, and that's why
I give him the grade that I give him. And
if he is here, cool, But yeah, it's kind of
hard to imagine from the talks.
Speaker 5 (43:31):
The tones in the.
Speaker 8 (43:32):
Last I would say, like three weeks have really changed
since the Lions game. I would say the tone has
really changed. So that's my grade. What you asked.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
You said, d's ma'am.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Saying I don't give I would say I would say
it d as well. I think it's just too much
to overcome. We can talk about the personnel, we can
talk about guys being injured and stuff like that, but
look across the NFL and see teams with lesser talent
that are playing hard, that understand their assignments, that know
what they're supposed to be. I also feel like from
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I just I just like I said, I feel like
it's too much to overcome. I feel like it's too
much to overcome. I feel like it was too much
to overcome from the start with kind of the differences
in scheme and differences. This is a coach that is
very fit, He's very sure of who he is and
very sure of what he likes to do, and it
does not seem like that it's suitable for what they
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had personnel wise this year and moving forward, it's gonna
require a lot of changes. So for me, I'm gonna
say d I have not been a fan. I'm really
not a fan of coaches that are not open to adjust.
It makes me nervous because what are we doing' That's
what football is. I mean, if you don't know how
to adjust, or if you're not willing to adjust in
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this game, it's gonna leave you behind. That's just how
it go and I just feel like that really irritated me.
Speaker 8 (45:01):
Yeah, this year, And I think to be fair, like
listening to how most places work in other coaches when
you have the if you have two differentism schemes ideas,
it's you know, you could have all these assistant coaches
and everybody's in that room, but the DC ultimately makes
a decision on how we're going to attack this thing.
And to your point, I know everybody in that room
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isn't agreeing in saying like, you know, hey, look at him,
like if you see it, and everybody else watching tape
sees it, it feels like he's the one pulling the trigger,
being kind of hard headed, like this is what we're
gonna do, even though it's not working, clearly not working
for whatever reason. And I think he's been given a
lot of grace on the Micah Parsons understanding that was
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your best defensive player who you were expecting to be
on this roster. But I think that's to your point
at some point, all right, he's gone, haven't had him
all camp?
Speaker 5 (45:54):
What else you got? And there was nothing?
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, I got a few more minutes left.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
We like literally one.
Speaker 13 (46:00):
Yeah, mine's simple thirty second passing yards per game allowed,
that's what you rank thirtieth in total yards per game
thirtieth thirty second, I'm sorry, and points per game and
the last four games you allowed opponents to score on
seventy five percent.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Of your drives in the last four games.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Either it's either a touchdown or a field goal. So
I'm gonna go with a D minus. M. Yeah, I'm
gonna go to D minus. But we're gonna keep this
going tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yay, this is cool. I like this.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Yeah, it's a great show. It's a line. I'll teach you.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
That's fine me either.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
So we're gonna get into the sist on office on
defense tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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