October 13, 2025 • 48 mins
The Dallas Cowboys suffered a frustrating and unexpected loss to the Carolina Panthers, as defensive woes once again took center stage. Despite a strong showing from Dak Prescott and George Pickens in the air, the Cowboys’ inability to establish a ground game and their continued struggles on defense proved costly. Former Cowboy Rico Dowdle gashed his old team for over 200 rushing yards, exposing Dallas' run-stopping deficiencies and handing them a demoralizing defeat.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line,
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Now your host, Nicole Hutchison.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Wake Up, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in to Girls Voys Talk,
presented by Invisiline Any SWBC Studio m Nicole Hutchinson alongside
Brianna Aldridge, Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison. Ladies, I wish I'd
could be with more energy today, but unfortunately the Cowboys
come home with a loss from Carolinas, their first road
loss to Carolina since twenty eighteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
To twenty seven, the final against the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
And I know we're gonna obviously break down what happened,
but I mean, ladies, just talk about overall thoughts. And
you could you could blame either the run defense, pass defense,
offensive misques at times, but I mean it was really
just a team loss. And Christy, I'll start with you's
you were there on the sidelines.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, they were getting out physical both sides of the
line of scrimmage all day. One thing we had said
about the Cowboys run game and Javante and that you know,
it was the yards after contact, always moving forward, a
two yard game being a six yard game. The script
was flipped yesterday and it was Rico and the Panthers
that were getting the yards after contact.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
And this, you know, with the.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Cowboys offense, you could tell pretty early that this was
going to be whoever had the ball last was probably
going to win the game because the offenses were having
a lot of success. But I think the key moments
were there. In the fourth quarter, Carolina gets the ball
with just over nine minutes to play. The game is
tied twenty seven to twenty seven, and the Cowboys defense
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actually made.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
A stand, a huge stand, and.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
The Cowboys get the ball with eight minutes and eighteen
seconds left in terrific field position on their own forty
six and two horrible plays tackles for loss and these
passes sets up third and long, a screen pass way
short have to punt. Carolina gets the ball at its
own fourteen bad field position with six oh seven left
to play. Just matriculate the ball down the field, bleed
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the clock Cowboys defense can't make a stand or a
play to get off the field, and that's all she wrote.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
It was just dismal.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I thought the defense was dismal yesterday other than that
one stand and just disappointing because the one thing that
coaches and players were saying going into the game was
it's a physical team this Carolina, and you got out physical.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I used to don start this morning. It this morning
what no Christy said it.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
They lost the line of scrimmage all day.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
Those interior guys of the Dallas offensive line, you know,
really struggled. And we talked about some of the gentlemen
that you know, the Panthers have on that interior. They
have a good rotation of guys, and I mean, they
just ate your lunch money all day. If I'm not mistaken,
Rico wasn't contacted like six point two.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Yards before he even got tapped.
Speaker 8 (03:28):
Anybody said any sweet, nothing's to him, pinched him anything.
I mean that was rough in itself. And I know
we're gonna talk about, you know, the two the Dallas
defense got three stops in this game.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
But it's just it's.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
So unbalanced, y'all that like, I'm at a point to
where you know we're gonna we're gonna break down the
Dolphins because we have to.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Twenty seven points is enough in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Twenty seven points is enough on the road in the
NFL to win regular games.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
And I'm very concerned about.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Out at how shoddy handles keeping this team together, because
if we see it.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Let's just keep it a bill.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
Like if we feel sick to our stomachs when Carolina
gets the ball with six minutes, seven seconds left and
we can feel like, I don't think the defense is
gonna get a stop. I think we will be remiss
to think that the offense doesn't have some of that
dread and some of that feeling as well. And football
is a machine. It's a balanced machine, like all everything
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begets another. That's how I've learned. It's very Barney style.
I right now, you're not playing complimentary football in any way,
shape or form. And just to see them just drive
down the field every single time, hitting you in the mouth,
it just was. It was exhausted, and I was very
disappointed in the lost yesterday.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
I was more pissed. I'm a little bit more disappointed today.
Speaker 9 (04:49):
What you gotta bree definitely what Christy and I used
to said, is what Shottenheimer said.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Disappointing.
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Its disappointing because talking about complimentary football, the Cowboys did
that for the first time last week. I didn't hop
on the it's just the Jets train because I didn't
want to take away from what we saw because it
was things happening that you've been asking and you didn't
see that at all yesterday. The offense is continuing to
be an e leee offense. There's the number one offense
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for a reason. Outside the opening drive and outside that
last series there, they were moving the ball like they
were supposed to do. And it's unfair to ask Dak
Prescott in this offense, who we keep forgetting are very
injured right now and missing a lot of key pieces
this time only two offensive linemen, but you still have
no City Lamb out there, and you're missing Cavante Turbin,
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who has been a big part of this offense as well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
But you're finding other ways.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
The broadcast team yesterday was talking about how the Wisconsin
Boys getting things started right. Lifkey getting his first reception
was huge yesterday, and that play, you know, you saw
Sean Heimer get in his bag Ferguson still in the mix,
like he's on fire.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Pickens.
Speaker 9 (05:59):
He's doing every thing you want him to do, to
the point where I'm scared we'll get in that conversation
because I'm like, he's playing a little too good.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Everybody's going have to pick so we know how this operates.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
So I'm like, ah, like you know, like that's just
that's just facts. But when Taysha's point the recipe to
win complimentary football, you're allowing thirty a little over thirty
point six, I believe it is for giving up to
the teams and then you're scoring average twenty nine points.
So that's not a recipe to win football games. And
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it's not fair to ask that you have to put
up forty points to win a football game. It's it's unreal,
and it feels like you're wasting an MVP type of
season for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 10 (06:42):
And that is your sick so I can be sick.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's hard, it's hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think we can all agree that this offense has
done what they needed to do to pull this team
to win.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, you look at the numbers alone.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think this was Todd Archer who tweeted this since
starts were first tracked in nineteen fifty. Dak Prescott is
the first quarterback to have eleven or more passing touchdowns
or rushing touchdowns, zero turnovers, and a non winning record
over a three start span. To dive even deeper, the
Cowboys are the only team in the NFL scoring thirty
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points per game and allowing thirty points per game.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
If you look at that, math and math is not
mathing for me.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But I mean, just specifically, we've talked about, you know
how these guys respawn from drive to the next drive,
And I mean this offense did what they needed to do. Obviously,
the first one they have to point, they have to punt,
They come back.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And get points on the board.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But I mean this defense run defense specifically, you had
a Rico Daldo who was talking smack from the start
of the week and he stood on business, the first
underrafted free agent since I believe it was nineteen seventy
to have back to back two hundred scrimmage yards.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Hello, Yeah, thoughts on Rico down on this run defense.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Lady, y'all you hear me? Man?
Speaker 8 (08:09):
The defensive line, the front seven was just played really
poor yesterday. You saw and the interior the defensive tackles
they were getting reached. You saw a lot of arm tackles,
And really what it was is that these guys were.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Just reaching out in the last minute.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
They weren't disengaged, disengaging and shedding fast enough. So again
there the fingertips of the defensive tackles are touching reco
as he goes by.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
And if the.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Fingertips are touching, then that means the linebacker's chest is
about to get.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
About to get caved in.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
So the linebackers also too, they weren't fast enough to
the punch.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Yesterday.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
I felt like there were times when I rewatched the
game last night that the defensive tackles are looking for
the linebackers to come fill and help them out. But
there were there were a lot of time they were
late to fill their rush lanes, and so you got
bad angles, you got bad tackling, and Rico broke through
to the second level too much. You start looking at
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the when you start looking at the box score, you
start seeing a lot of dbs with high tackle mounts.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah you didn't want that.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah that's bad, big Mama, nodad gee that you
don't want to see.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
That's not what you want to see.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
And the edges, man, these edges really struggled yesterday to
get off blocks, to really shed and to set the edge.
But you know a lot of these big runs from
them came from the interior.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Oh yeah, And I think there's times where the edges.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Are like, man, I can feel the interior struggling, so
they're trying to go inside and help. Then they're getting
penned inside and that turns into six seven eight yard games.
One thing that stood out to me when you look
in the just looking at the base level of numbers,
third down efficiency for the Carolina Panthers there.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Were three of eight.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Don't let that make you feel good, because they had eleven,
well fourteen rushing first downs and eleven passing first downs.
They had twenty seven first downs. They weren't even getting
a third down, right, they weren't even getting a third down.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
It was first down on second and five.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
And that was just it was so decimating to deal
with all yesterday. And again, you know, Bryce Young had
a really simple day. He just handed the ball off
a million times and made a couple of keyp asses.
But the run defense, it really starts with the front
seven and them not playing together and they're being so
much miscommunication. I mean, you see so many times guys
like I don't know if you ladies saw it as well,
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Brie and Christy, that they're trying to communicate to each
other late into the play cock, can you hear me?
So if a defense, if an offense sees that they're
gonna they're gonna run at you because you're not set,
and there was plenty of times they weren't set. So
that's what I saw initially from the run defense. It's
just not good enough, y'all.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
It's not your film review is not gonna be fun.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I'm trying to decide if I want to watch it because.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, you know, but you need to, I know sometimes, Yeah,
it's one of the hazards of the job.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I had to.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
I watched the Bronc as you last night, and I
just it just made me sad, low key, and I.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Don't know my therapist working overtime.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
What y'all got, Well, you were with with Rico, and
he was right.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
They wasn't buckled up, so wouldn't but if I could, yeah,
that was that was a mic drop mob.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Uh just to kind of put in perspective what he
has done these last two weeks yesterday against the Cowboys.
So when he signed in free agency with the Panthers,
it was a one year deal and it's two point
seventy five million guaranteed. Okay, But like a lot of
one year deals, including Javonte Williams with the Cowboys, you
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have performance incentives, okay. So I'm going to share his
performance incentives with you. The first one is a next
five hundred thousand dollars, very nice chunk of change for
eight hundred yards from scrimmage. Eight eight hundred yards from
scrimmage in the past two weeks, he's so.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Well over halfway there.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And another five hundred thousand for nine hundred and fifty
yards from scrimmage, another five hundred thousand for eleven hundred
yards from scrimmage. One million dollars from one thousand, three
hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage. So I just kind
of put in perspective what he's done compared to what
the expectations were with the Panthers, you know, I mean,
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he wasn't even the starter. I mean, if Hubbard were
healthy the last couple of weeks he would have been
the starter. So you know he's Rico did the right thing.
His agent did the right thing in terms of these
performance incentives. But I think there are going to be
a lot of backs that might hit their incentives against
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the defense for the Cowboys if they don't go up.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Sorry but they I mean it was just bad.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
You.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
You know, every the Cowboys was just moving backwards. Both
sides can't have it.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
They were getting worked and it wasn't like it took.
The difference is that it didn't take him time to
get into rhythm out of the jump.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Like the stats were crazy.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
The first three carries were like it's gonna be a long,
long day.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
And he wasn't just hurting you in the run game.
They were using him.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
That's the thing that as catch and I was like, wall,
Rico become a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I didn't see that here, we didn't uti.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
That's why I was doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I'm sick of you.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Thirty six That thirty six yard catch I think came
in the third quarter and I said, yeah, he is,
he is rolling and it.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It was a revenge game.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
I don't care what anybody says, and he he wanted
everybody was talking about Yep, they got the best of us.
Kenny Clark was my player to watch because he was
kind of had a little fire in him in the
locker room about the comments made by Rico and they
didn't back it up. And I think we're having the
same conversations about this defense, about setting the edge, about
the interior lines, and when Kenny Clark is not fantastic
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and when Osa is not fantastic, this is the results
and that's not okay. More questions and answers for Mattyberflus
after this game.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Oh, that's that's a great way to put it. I
don't wait.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
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Speaker 3 (18:07):
Anyways, all right, I know that Cowboys back to this
this unfortunate loss Cowboys fall to the Panthers thirty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
The final Uh and Breed brought up a great.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Point I mean, you look at the numbers. The Cowboys
gave up more than double, almost double the amount of
total yards that the Cowboys offense even had rushing offense.
The Carolina Panthers be able to run the ball effectively,
obviously two hundred and sixteen rushing yards for them in total.
But talk about this defense. What did this loss reveal about?
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This defense.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Is more than pointing the finger at the at the
past defense. And I think we've shared I've shared this
before several times on the podcast, but with Cowboys Radio
we have a little saying it's like everybody's got problems,
but when the problems don't aren't fixed and addressed, then
you got issues. So the first month of the season,
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you can say we got problems because you know, you
can say, all right, new new system, new coordinator, new players,
everyone kind of getting adjusted injuries in particular in the secondary.
But now you're six games in, y'all we got issues.
And that's that's a difference. It doesn't mean that the
issues you know that you can't fix them, but you
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hadn't shown yet that you can.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
And that's that's what's worries.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That sounded like my mama, when you used to get
in trouble's we got some issues.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
There's there's no magic button, and there's nothing on this
defense where you like, like Christy's point where you're kind
of harping on the secondary, right, they're healthy. Now, there's
nothing that you can say like, Okay, the secondary just
has to do this, The linebackers just have to do this,
the interior just has.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
To do this.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
It just like it is so many different things right now,
and I don't think it's fair my get attacked. Social
media was going a little crazy about Matt Everflus.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He just has to go.
Speaker 9 (20:07):
Okay, so if he goes, then what the defense just
gets better going into week seven and then somebody else
who hasn't been with this team comes in.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
No, I don't think that's the answer at this point.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
You got what you got, and I know there's can
be some people who step up.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
But Christy, I was actually.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
Thinking about messaging you yesterday when I was do the Cowboys, Like,
when's the last time the Cowboys have fired a coordinator?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Oh, during a season?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
They don't. Yeah, it was back in the day during.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
The boy the Eagles fired their offensive.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Course they don't mess around over there.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Of course he was new, you know, I mean calling
yeah stuff.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
The firing thing was what I was like, that's what,
That's what everyone you know, as fans, they just get
him out of there. But then you really like think
about let's let's be calm, like then what But I
do think to your point, Christy, something's got to change.
And I think you hear the respect Shotenheimer has for
Eberflus and all the people that he brought with him
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from Chicago in here and having the faith and even
last night saying that he believes in the scheme, that
he believes the players still believe in the scheme. And
that could be a whole different conversation because I was
hearing other things in the locker room last night. But
I think it's a fair question if maybe he needs
to take a step back from the play calling at
least and just at this point just try something new,
get something in there, because I think you're seeing not
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enough changes and to be able to take a step
forward last week and then take three steps back this
week and kind of just feel like there's no answers.
I don't think it's fair to this team, and I
think he is, despite what you might hear, is losing
the locker room.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Who would step in in play call, though, if you're
saying that's the.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Step back, I would think it would be if it
was someone in the house, I would think it would
be White Cotton.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
It could be I was. He's the most tenure in
a sense.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
But even at that, I mean the issue, I think
it's a mixture of two things. I think it's it's
the schematics and what they're being asked to do, and also,
to let's go take it a bit further, is that.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
There's been multiple.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Defensive coordinators over the last few years, and so guys
have not really had an opportunity to learn a system,
stay in the system, growing a system. It is ever
revolving and changing, and guys are having to adjust. I
understand that's football. I understand that that's football. I understand
that's a part of the job and everything. But I
say it once, I'm gonna say it again. In the military,
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they say if everybody feel in the test, then maybe
the teacher has to look at how they're giving the test.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Maybe we need to do maybe we need to review
a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
You know what I'm saying, maybe maybe you need some
extra study, guys, and I feel like they're so y'all,
don't y'all. I'm telling y'all, there's so much miscommunication on
the field all the time from guys, and of course
you know you have some I think about I think
about the loss of Jordan Lewis and how he used
to he told me verbatim he really connected the front
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seven to the back, to the to the back three
or however many people's back there. And then also too,
you lost Samborne yesterday, which Sanborne wasn't there, and again,
I know, help communicate, but he.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Can help communicate.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
At the very least I think the communication was was,
you know, not where it needed to be. But going
back to ebra Flus, Dallas blitz five times yesterday. I
understand being nervous about the back end, but this quarterback
has not shown you that they are able to fight
to play the blitz. That's something that's on tape. That's
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something that shows in the numbers, is that when you
pressure this guy that he struggles. Bryce Young, he struggles
to see what the right read is.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Give yourself a chance.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Because the time that they did blitz a few times
when they did blitz it was beneficial. Now, they did
try to throw some styn We'll give you Ebra Flu
some credit. They did try to throw some stunts, some
twists in there, but guys didn't play their assignments. So
it's a mixture of execution and also too you know
what is going on right now. So I don't know
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what the answer is because I don't know if you
have the adequate personnel to do some of the stuff
that he wants to do.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
But then I'm also like.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Well, even if you did have the personnel, are guys
going to be doing their job? And this is not
something new. We've heard this from other coordinators. We heard
this last year before, at the beginning of the year
with Zimmer like, I don't know's it's just not a
good It just doesn't feel good even when.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
You're watching it.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
But at this point of the last year, things were
starting to turn with the defense a little bit.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
They were started, it was starting to come out.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
And going back to your question, Brie, about changes defense,
particularly defense in the season or just with a coordinator,
I mean, other than when Wade Phillips was fired in
twenty ten, it was his defense and he called he
called the play right, he gets fired as head coach.
I think that was after seven games into the season,
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go up to Green Bay and just lay an egg
up there, and Wade Phillips gets fired as head coach
and so and defensive play caller, and Jason Garrett goes
from offensive coordinator to now the head coach, and so
Paul Pasqualoni was promoted to defensive coordinator. And he wasn't
(25:25):
one of Wade's guys, so to speak, passed Gualone a lot.
If that name is familiar beyond Cowboys head coach at
Syrahcuse and just a longtime coach. So he came in
and then after that, I think it was when Rob
Ryan was hired later, you know, after the season and
all that. But other than what was at twenty ten,
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so yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
Yeah, unlike other organizations.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yeah, but it was because you moved the head coach
out and he was the defensive play caller that it
was essentially almost like a change.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And for Jared to not talk yesterday, you know what
time it is, he knows today's birthday.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
I feel bad for him because.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I think it was who did they lose to? Yeah, birthday?
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I'm not gonna let but but free Slurpy Slurpy Sam.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
At the color Lighthouse.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
It's not gonna mesh mine stop.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
But I think I think also too, when you talk
about the defensive line, like my gosh, guys, like I
think that there's there's an issue. We talked about the
inability to get pressure. We talked about, you know, these
guys not being able to get home like that. Again,
I think it goes back to some of the personnel stuff,
is that you know, you have certain guys that you
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can have in their own rundowns, but they can't be
on their own passing downs, and then end you don't
really have a speed rusher, which is seriously what people
look for for a defensive line at this point is
that you at least used to have one guy that
can win off the edge consistently, and you're not seeing that,
like some of these passing downs, their inability to get
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off the field on third and longs and third downs,
it is decimating.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
It's the more linzing, and I'm sure it really is.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Like I said, if we feel like that, I can
only imagine how they feel not being able to get
off the field on third down And to your point earlier,
they're attacking teams are really attacking your linebackers in the
passing game. Yah, they are going at your linebackers in
the passing game. They don't believe that they can get
to the spot, they don't believe that they're gonna tackle
(27:36):
them where they are. It's just I mean, even if
we talk about the run, the pass is killing you too,
like you ladies were talking about earlier.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
So this is a tough spot to be in. It's
a very tough spot to be in.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Like I said, I don't know what fixes it. I
guess I want to ask you ladies. This is where
I met with it, because we were just talking about
before we came on this offense and what they've been
able to do and what they are at this point.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Do you are you aggressive?
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Cause I felt like if Dallas won this game, then
I would want for them to and maybe they get
a win against Washington, then I would want for them
to try to make some move or do something to
supplement what this offense is doing. How are you, ladies,
feeling about that now? Do you feel the urgency still
to try to balance out this team because it's so unbalanced.
(28:28):
What would you do right now? Because you gotta figure
out how to keep this locker room together. No, we
can't just say we're gonna just keep doing this every
week and be close in games. Cause the quarterback is
not gonna let you just get killed in games.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
He's he's too competitive.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
But you're saying, supplement the offense, why not try and
supplement the defense.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Well, that's what I mean supplement the defense by you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Supplement the offense. If you supplement the defense, it's gonna
help them. That's what I meant by That's what I
meant by How do we make it balance for them
to feel like this is a they have a fair
shot in games?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah, and I think breeze up.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
You know this would be an MVP year for Dad, right,
And you've only got two wins, So I don't think
you can waste this season.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I don't think you can either.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
A lot of people are just like, let's just wash it,
let's just and I'm like that, I agree. I'm like,
you can't do that. I'm not about to start doing
draft work.
Speaker 10 (29:23):
And that's where that's where it feels like it's headed.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Last last week, Shade.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Where it feels like the last last week, the frustration
looking in is like it felt like you were like
arguably two three pieces away from defense to having a
winning season overall, and then this week is like nobody
showed up.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
And to your point, I need shit.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
It's not just us sitting up here talking about okay,
the defense.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
They look confused. They're telling us during the we don't
I don't know what we're supposed to be people. The
scheme isn't working.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Too many busted coverages like these are coming from the
player's mouth. So that's what I'm telling you know, there's
more questions than answers, and it's going to be beyond
Mattie Refluse. Schottenheimer's play is full as well. What do
you do at that point? That's why I it seems
like a stretch. Obviously, if someone gets fired, that's not
with to Christy's point, that's not what they do here,
(30:27):
and maybe even a stretch from what I'm saying, someone
else take over.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
The play calling.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
But like it don't feel too much stress when you
have Dak Prescott in year ten, healthy playing MVP type
of football right now, and if they had a whizzy,
if they had a winning record, he'd beat in those conversations.
But he's not, and that's not fair to him and
what you're asking him to do. And I guess you
can hope Ceedee Lamb comes back next week and they
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put up forty points. But it's gonna feel at this
point we're seeing from the defense, gonna feel like a
coin toss of what the defense does.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's what it feels like. Let me, I'll show you something.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
History shows that this team won't try different things in
the play calling area. I'll say, just because you brought
up wayde Phillips, how that was back in twenty ten,
you said twenty ten. History also shows that they are
not necessarily the most aggressive team when it comes down
to getting to the trade deadline, which is November fourth,
(31:23):
by the way, At what point do you decide, Okay,
we actually want to have success this season and go
out and get a player or maybe two defensive players
specifically to kind of better this team.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Well, you have the draft capital after the Micah trade.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
And here's the thing the NFC East, the Eagles ain't
running away with it. They got their own problems, right.
This division is still ripe for the taking and it's
down as everybody is today and rightfully so, because it
was pretty yesterday and we're all lamenting that.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
And that's fine. It's over reaction Monday.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
We get it, and I agree with everything that's being said,
but just about.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
But you're a game and a half out.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Talk about it.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
You're a game and a half out in the NAST
and it doesn't matter what the NFC North does, and
it doesn't matter if Tampa Bay runs away with it
or the Rams in Seattle keep winning. All you have
to do is win your division, and by the way,
you get a home playoff game.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
And it never repeats, by the way.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Since since the early two thousands, Donovan mcnappy Eagles. That's
how long it's been since you so you know it
ain't over yet, right and so so yeah, I expect
the Cowboys to be aggressive at the trade deadline this
year because the offense is there.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
It's there.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
They're trying to win now, yes, and it's they're even
just seeing George Pickens. I don't wanna talk about him
in the next seven but seeing George Pickens playing the
way he's playing and just having fun with it.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And that's without CD Lamb.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
There Yeah, since when do we feel like a CD
Lamb is not involved in this offense? Again, a Kavante
Turpin who's become Cavante Turpin is not just a gimmick player.
I mean number one, he sets up your offense with
the return game, and we saw that that wasn't as
efficient yesterday as well. So you miss you missed him.
So not only is Dak like you you you know
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you ladies mentioned you know the offense, not only is
the offense having to they're having to drive more of
the length of the field now because they're not getting
starting field position. But yeah, you're talking about George Pickens
and Dak and him just enjoying playing football together. I
never would have thought that Dallas not having CD Lamb
would be able to operate in the passing game the
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way that they were able to ride f Illinoy having
another strong day at the office, not as crazy as
last week, but efficient. It's it's one of those things
where I feel the same way. I'm like, hey, you
need to make a decision on what you're gonna do.
But again, like Bri was saying, how beneficial is it
gonna be if you.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Go out and you expend again, if you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Expend draft capitalbal capital, it better you better come on
with it. It like there needs to be some answers
and solutions and how is this gonna look and what
is this gonna look like if they do that? And
I don't know if you have any certainty on if
a noop, if other players are going to make this
system all of all of a sudden start start working,
(34:33):
cause it doesn't seem like the operation of it is
working well anyway. Not saying I want to be aggressive,
but for what part you wanna be smart about how
you'd intend on doing that? And that means some people
are gonna have to sit down or they're gonna have
to go to the house.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, On that note, we're gonna take our second grade
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Speaker 4 (34:55):
To the house yet. So we're gonna be right back
with more of the show after the break.
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Speaker 4 (37:38):
Wig up. I only did that one time this show.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
This is the second time we got.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
I really do think it's impressive that you say it
like that, You say it in the same key, in
the same Okay, just.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
That's my music.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Consistency.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
Some fide about consistency, youl, youon't be flat, you be right,
thank you, perfect pitch sister.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Wig up every time? All right, thank you?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
It is pretty good, ain't it. Appreciate it?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
You know, so it's been consistent.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
George Pickens g P.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Three, I know he's having the time of his life.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yes, nine catches, one hundred and sixty eight yards one touchdown.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean talking about the the kiss to the fans,
and the hurtling over defenders and leeping on the ball.
It was just ridiculous. It was fun, though, fun to watch.
He's so crazy.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
I think did that he looked like when he catches
the ball, y'all, he looks like he running.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
He looked like he'd look like a kid that'd be
got something in the hand.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, and he's a fact.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
And it's crazy because you first of all, let's let's
talk about the separation. Come on, verse Pickings. The separation
is so great. He'd be scaring me the way he
be carrying the ball. But there's no one near him
most of the time.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
So he just feels like he can freely maneuver.
Speaker 8 (38:47):
I love how he can get I think I'm not
sure if I'm using the right verbage, but he kind.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Of he gets skinny in the open field.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 7 (38:54):
Yeah, Like he's so.
Speaker 8 (38:55):
Slim and slippery, and the way that he's able to
maneuver through tackles. All thirteen shout out to Bobby Bell.
All thirteen of George Pickens receptions on third and fourth
down this season have been converted for first downs Pickens
only is also second in the NFL and on third
and fourth down receiving yards with two hundred and eleven
only trail in Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
What a stat number one.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
And when you think about again losing seed Lamb you
know who also too, when he's available, is one of
the best wide receivers on third down. See you now,
So to get George Pickens in here and to can
maintain that, and let's talk about it. Dallas has been
behind the chains the last two weeks. There's been a
lot of second attends, second and longs, third and longs,
(39:38):
and Dak Prescott in this receiving corps has still been
able to continue to move the ball downfield and get
these big third downs when they needed to in these games.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
So shout out to George Pickens. He's playing great football, ladies.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, but when he switched hands and then freed that
hand so that he could deliver the blow, it's like
protect ball projection, don't. Yes, yes, that.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
He got because he got a hit and problem I
seen him. It's supposed to be a stiff arm, but
it's a stiff's lap.
Speaker 13 (40:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Hey, by the.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Way, you kind of your hands are important when you're
a receiver. Don't crash them into an opponent's helmet.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
It's like wow, but that was a heck of a play.
But you're right sleep sleeping on the football. Like see
if just as recently as a few years back, that
would have been a penalty because you can't you couldn't use.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
The ball as a prop.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
So that's when it was no, fundly, that's what we
have some fun. Yeah, well they wouldn't know to do it.
Speaker 10 (40:34):
Oh, Joe Sinko was acted a full salsa.
Speaker 9 (40:38):
The game has changed, Uh, to your point, I should
when you're looking at what Pigins is able to do
when he's on those one to one is amazing. And
the stat I wrote down yesterday during the game, so
against zone coverage to reception forty one yards, but against
man coverage, he caught seven of eight of his targets
for one hundred and twenty seven yards.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
That's all eleven routes.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
So out of eleven times going on those one of ones,
eight of them. Uh was Dak saw him for eight
of those and he was able to snag seven of them.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
That's why he had day he has.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
And that lets me know that the trust with Dak
and Pickens is exactly where you want it to be,
because if you think about where they kind of started,
it was a slow start for Pickens when CD was
out there. So my hope is when he comes back,
they're able to figure out how to utilize them both
because I think this is like the perfect confidence for
Pickens because I feel like he in his mind and
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he said when he got here, he's a number one receiver.
He knows whose offense this was, but in his mind
he's coming into like a number one receiver. And I
think we also saw him in the beginning trying to
figure out how to stay involved in this offense when
you are hitting Ceedee Lamb for those for all those reps.
Now you have another guy who's proven that he can
be your number one. I think if Shoddy, who I
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do have faith in as a play caller, is going
to be able to figure it out because I think
now Pickens feels like what he can be for this team,
and I don't think you saw that when CD was
healthy in here, so I know there talks about him
possibly coming back next week.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
It's gonna be a great time because they're facing the Commanders.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
It's going to be an important game obviously, like you
mentioned with the standings, but yeah, Pickens is with the highlight.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I was like husting the press box. I was like,
I was like, what am I going to do?
Speaker 9 (42:16):
Because you know TV, I have to like kind of focus.
I was like, what am I talk about? They're like Pickens.
I was like, all right, Yeah, it's fun and it's
easy and he's consistent and he's showing up mimig ways
and like I said, he is going to get paid.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
And I really really hope this team here yeah, figures out.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
What I love seeing was that it was a second
and seventh play. I believe the conversion he made in
the early third quarter, and then he goes to Dak like,
come back to me, next play, third and five, third
and seconds are at the thirty five and that's.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
When he broke off for that touchdown.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
So you're seeing his confidence kind of grow, which granted,
nobody wants injuries to happen, of course, And when you
saw ceedeelamb go down, I feel like it was something
that GP needed in order to kind of get those
opportunities to showcase what he can do.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
I feel like he kind of fell.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
There wasn't really a true balance in terms of utilizing
him the way that I feel like that shot he could.
So hopefully, you know, Shody continues to find a way
to maintain the ball distribution like he's doing. But I mean, overall, ladies,
where does his team.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Go from here?
Speaker 8 (43:26):
I mean, at this point, anything you just keep trying
to stack together. I mean, because we didn't talk about
it that much. But the run game really struggled yesterday.
And I think that's the beauty of having a balanced
attack is that you're not one dimensional, like you're able
to take advantage of a situation where he's like, okay,
(43:48):
well Dallas was like, we're not running the ball. Well
we can't get anything going on the ground. Let's pass
this thing. And that's to.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
Me, that versatility and that multiplicity that Shot he's talked about.
Speaker 8 (43:58):
This is why he's talked about it, is that there's
gonna be times where it's hard to get things on
the ground, but they were able.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
To pass the boss. I'm not worried about the offense.
That might be my only worry.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
I guess it's them trying to figure out how to
continue to breeze point, how to continue to be balanced
with these two receiving threats, because SHOT's doing things for
Pickens that he hasn't gotten experience as much. He's getting
moved into the slot, he's getting moved out to that
he's getting moved to the outside. I mean, he's he
predominantly with Pittsburgh was an ex receiver and him getting
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the opportunity to kind of show what he can do.
I think opens up your offense so offensively, I just
feel like you keep doing what you're doing. I don't
really feel like we have a whole bunch of complaints
about what they're doing offensively. It's defensively, how do you
figure out how to at least just get four five
stops a game and put your offense in position to
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or turnovers?
Speaker 7 (44:51):
You wanted to turn off a battle yesterday? You did
you want to.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Turn Donovan Wilson got that interception? Yeah, first half was
I have a big play. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
My keys to the game for Cowboys Radio, it's Bryce Young.
It was what we talked about on Friday, the ball.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
But just one time yesterday.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
But that's because you didn't have an effective pass rush
on him, consistent pass rush on him.
Speaker 9 (45:16):
Yeah, he put it out very much comfortable and to
your point to the run game, we haven't talked about it,
but Miles Sanders is out now for the rest of
the season, so I think we were just talking about
how to kind of preserve the Javante Williams greatness and
obviously the.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
Run game yesterday. I know I should will dive into
the film.
Speaker 9 (45:37):
I don't know if that's totally obviously they're in getting
worked in the trenches, but also where they're not open lanes.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
It was it was kind of tough to watch because
you've seen that.
Speaker 9 (45:46):
We weren't even worried about it going into it, and
it does feel like, okay, how they remain balanced because
that is the winning recipe for the offense going forward.
We don't know what's going on defense, so like, let's
just make sure the offense stay where it is and
keeps elevating while the defense tries to play catch up there.
But I think that is a conversation of what happens
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next because that's a lot more on Jaden Blue's plate
if he's going to be the one two punch in
Javonte Williams.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Yeaho zero yards on three carries yesterday. Now they only
had nineteen carries and only had the third yards, so you.
Speaker 9 (46:22):
Can't put that all because thirteen but Davonte's as second
lowest he's.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Had this season.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Nineteen carries overall for the Cowboys for thirty one yards
one point six.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
Interior that they lunched money eight.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
Boy a Shawn Robbins, I mean Derek Brown, but a
Shawn Robinson boyded he.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
They have rotation that interior, and they let you know
all day their safeties came up and tackled their corners,
flooded the flats. I mean it was very impressing. Well
it was just very little there on the ground. But yeah,
it's all right tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Hey, it's gonna it's you know, until it's going to
continue to be shootouts, you know.
Speaker 9 (47:02):
I mean yeah, everybody teams that what they had their
highest points this season was thirty and they matched it yesterday.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
What are we but the thing about the shooting, not
the Scooby Doo sounds if with the shootouts situation though,
is again you asked, Nicole, you asked what they should
do moving forward?
Speaker 7 (47:23):
Try to keep this locker room together. Yeah, that needs
to be the priority.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
And keeping this locker room together might be sitting some
people down, having some conversations, letting like this team, this
offense definitely is gonna need to know. I'm sure there's
gonna be some questions like what is happening so we
can balance out this team a little bit more. Because
I can tell you ain't nothing worse than doing a
group project and you feel like somebody not pulling a weight,
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oh right, very much.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
Like it's supposed to be a team sport, and they're
not playing as a team right now. Whether that's on
purpose or not, whether it's on accident, way for the scheme, whatever.
They that's my biggest and siren, you guys, you ladies.
It's them trying to keep the locker room together so
if the division does open up, you guys are together
enough to go get it and there's not you know,
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finger pointing and stuff like that going on.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
That's my thing.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
On that note, they have to try and go get
it on Sunday against Washington.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
And that's back here in at and T Stadium. But
we are back here tomorrow at eight am.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
We're gonna break down this run game and the struggles
they had and dive more deeper into the film for
Brionna Aldridge, Christy Scales, Asha Morrison, I'm Nicole Hudginson.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
We'll see all tomorrow.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Wake Up, Cowboys Nation, Welcome in to Girls Voys Talk,
presented by Invisiline Any SWBC Studio m Nicole Hutchinson alongside
Brianna Aldridge, Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison. Ladies, I wish I'd
could be with more energy today, but unfortunately the Cowboys
come home with a loss from Carolinas, their first road
loss to Carolina since twenty eighteen thirty.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
To twenty seven, the final against the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
And I know we're gonna obviously break down what happened,
but I mean, ladies, just talk about overall thoughts. And
you could you could blame either the run defense, pass defense,
offensive misques at times, but I mean it was really
just a team loss. And Christy, I'll start with you's
you were there on the sidelines.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Yeah, they were getting out physical both sides of the
line of scrimmage all day. One thing we had said
about the Cowboys run game and Javante and that you know,
it was the yards after contact, always moving forward, a
two yard game being a six yard game. The script
was flipped yesterday and it was Rico and the Panthers
that were getting the yards after contact.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
And this, you know, with the.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Cowboys offense, you could tell pretty early that this was
going to be whoever had the ball last was probably
going to win the game because the offenses were having
a lot of success. But I think the key moments
were there. In the fourth quarter, Carolina gets the ball
with just over nine minutes to play. The game is
tied twenty seven to twenty seven, and the Cowboys defense
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actually made.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
A stand, a huge stand, and.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
The Cowboys get the ball with eight minutes and eighteen
seconds left in terrific field position on their own forty
six and two horrible plays tackles for loss and these
passes sets up third and long, a screen pass way
short have to punt. Carolina gets the ball at its
own fourteen bad field position with six oh seven left
to play. Just matriculate the ball down the field, bleed
(02:29):
the clock Cowboys defense can't make a stand or a
play to get off the field, and that's all she wrote.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
It was just dismal.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
I thought the defense was dismal yesterday other than that
one stand and just disappointing because the one thing that
coaches and players were saying going into the game was
it's a physical team this Carolina, and you got out physical.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I used to don start this morning. It this morning
what no Christy said it.
Speaker 7 (03:04):
They lost the line of scrimmage all day.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
Those interior guys of the Dallas offensive line, you know,
really struggled. And we talked about some of the gentlemen
that you know, the Panthers have on that interior. They
have a good rotation of guys, and I mean, they
just ate your lunch money all day. If I'm not mistaken,
Rico wasn't contacted like six point two.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Yards before he even got tapped.
Speaker 8 (03:28):
Anybody said any sweet, nothing's to him, pinched him anything.
I mean that was rough in itself. And I know
we're gonna talk about, you know, the two the Dallas
defense got three stops in this game.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
But it's just it's.
Speaker 8 (03:43):
So unbalanced, y'all that like, I'm at a point to
where you know we're gonna we're gonna break down the
Dolphins because we have to.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
Twenty seven points is enough in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (03:53):
Twenty seven points is enough on the road in the
NFL to win regular games.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
And I'm very concerned about.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
Out at how shoddy handles keeping this team together, because
if we see it.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
Let's just keep it a bill.
Speaker 8 (04:08):
Like if we feel sick to our stomachs when Carolina
gets the ball with six minutes, seven seconds left and
we can feel like, I don't think the defense is
gonna get a stop. I think we will be remiss
to think that the offense doesn't have some of that
dread and some of that feeling as well. And football
is a machine. It's a balanced machine, like all everything
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begets another. That's how I've learned. It's very Barney style.
I right now, you're not playing complimentary football in any way,
shape or form. And just to see them just drive
down the field every single time, hitting you in the mouth,
it just was. It was exhausted, and I was very
disappointed in the lost yesterday.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
I was more pissed. I'm a little bit more disappointed today.
Speaker 9 (04:49):
What you gotta bree definitely what Christy and I used
to said, is what Shottenheimer said.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Disappointing.
Speaker 9 (04:56):
Its disappointing because talking about complimentary football, the Cowboys did
that for the first time last week. I didn't hop
on the it's just the Jets train because I didn't
want to take away from what we saw because it
was things happening that you've been asking and you didn't
see that at all yesterday. The offense is continuing to
be an e leee offense. There's the number one offense
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for a reason. Outside the opening drive and outside that
last series there, they were moving the ball like they
were supposed to do. And it's unfair to ask Dak
Prescott in this offense, who we keep forgetting are very
injured right now and missing a lot of key pieces
this time only two offensive linemen, but you still have
no City Lamb out there, and you're missing Cavante Turbin,
(05:38):
who has been a big part of this offense as well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
But you're finding other ways.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
The broadcast team yesterday was talking about how the Wisconsin
Boys getting things started right. Lifkey getting his first reception
was huge yesterday, and that play, you know, you saw
Sean Heimer get in his bag Ferguson still in the mix,
like he's on fire.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Pickens.
Speaker 9 (05:59):
He's doing every thing you want him to do, to
the point where I'm scared we'll get in that conversation
because I'm like, he's playing a little too good.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Everybody's going have to pick so we know how this operates.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
So I'm like, ah, like you know, like that's just
that's just facts. But when Taysha's point the recipe to
win complimentary football, you're allowing thirty a little over thirty
point six, I believe it is for giving up to
the teams and then you're scoring average twenty nine points.
So that's not a recipe to win football games. And
(06:31):
it's not fair to ask that you have to put
up forty points to win a football game. It's it's unreal,
and it feels like you're wasting an MVP type of
season for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 10 (06:42):
And that is your sick so I can be sick.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's hard, it's hard to watch.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I think we can all agree that this offense has
done what they needed to do to pull this team
to win.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean, you look at the numbers alone.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think this was Todd Archer who tweeted this since
starts were first tracked in nineteen fifty. Dak Prescott is
the first quarterback to have eleven or more passing touchdowns
or rushing touchdowns, zero turnovers, and a non winning record
over a three start span. To dive even deeper, the
Cowboys are the only team in the NFL scoring thirty
(07:18):
points per game and allowing thirty points per game.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
If you look at that, math and math is not
mathing for me.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But I mean, just specifically, we've talked about, you know
how these guys respawn from drive to the next drive,
And I mean this offense did what they needed to do. Obviously,
the first one they have to point, they have to punt,
They come back.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And get points on the board.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But I mean this defense run defense specifically, you had
a Rico Daldo who was talking smack from the start
of the week and he stood on business, the first
underrafted free agent since I believe it was nineteen seventy
to have back to back two hundred scrimmage yards.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Hello, Yeah, thoughts on Rico down on this run defense.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Lady, y'all you hear me? Man?
Speaker 8 (08:09):
The defensive line, the front seven was just played really
poor yesterday. You saw and the interior the defensive tackles
they were getting reached. You saw a lot of arm tackles,
And really what it was is that these guys were.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Just reaching out in the last minute.
Speaker 8 (08:24):
They weren't disengaged, disengaging and shedding fast enough. So again
there the fingertips of the defensive tackles are touching reco
as he goes by.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
And if the.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Fingertips are touching, then that means the linebacker's chest is
about to get.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
About to get caved in.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
So the linebackers also too, they weren't fast enough to
the punch.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
Yesterday.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
I felt like there were times when I rewatched the
game last night that the defensive tackles are looking for
the linebackers to come fill and help them out. But
there were there were a lot of time they were
late to fill their rush lanes, and so you got
bad angles, you got bad tackling, and Rico broke through
to the second level too much. You start looking at
(09:07):
the when you start looking at the box score, you
start seeing a lot of dbs with high tackle mounts.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah you didn't want that.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Yeah, yeah that's bad, big Mama, nodad gee that you
don't want to see.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
That's not what you want to see.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
And the edges, man, these edges really struggled yesterday to
get off blocks, to really shed and to set the edge.
But you know a lot of these big runs from
them came from the interior.
Speaker 7 (09:33):
Oh yeah, And I think there's times where the edges.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
Are like, man, I can feel the interior struggling, so
they're trying to go inside and help. Then they're getting
penned inside and that turns into six seven eight yard games.
One thing that stood out to me when you look
in the just looking at the base level of numbers,
third down efficiency for the Carolina Panthers there.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Were three of eight.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
Don't let that make you feel good, because they had eleven,
well fourteen rushing first downs and eleven passing first downs.
They had twenty seven first downs. They weren't even getting
a third down, right, they weren't even getting a third down.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
It was first down on second and five.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
And that was just it was so decimating to deal
with all yesterday. And again, you know, Bryce Young had
a really simple day. He just handed the ball off
a million times and made a couple of keyp asses.
But the run defense, it really starts with the front
seven and them not playing together and they're being so
much miscommunication. I mean, you see so many times guys
like I don't know if you ladies saw it as well,
(10:33):
Brie and Christy, that they're trying to communicate to each
other late into the play cock, can you hear me?
So if a defense, if an offense sees that they're
gonna they're gonna run at you because you're not set,
and there was plenty of times they weren't set. So
that's what I saw initially from the run defense. It's
just not good enough, y'all.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
It's not your film review is not gonna be fun.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I'm trying to decide if I want to watch it because.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I mean, you know, but you need to, I know sometimes, Yeah,
it's one of the hazards of the job.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I had to.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
I watched the Bronc as you last night, and I
just it just made me sad, low key, and I.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Don't know my therapist working overtime.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
What y'all got, Well, you were with with Rico, and
he was right.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
They wasn't buckled up, so wouldn't but if I could, yeah,
that was that was a mic drop mob.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Uh just to kind of put in perspective what he
has done these last two weeks yesterday against the Cowboys.
So when he signed in free agency with the Panthers,
it was a one year deal and it's two point
seventy five million guaranteed. Okay, But like a lot of
one year deals, including Javonte Williams with the Cowboys, you
(11:51):
have performance incentives, okay. So I'm going to share his
performance incentives with you. The first one is a next
five hundred thousand dollars, very nice chunk of change for
eight hundred yards from scrimmage. Eight eight hundred yards from
scrimmage in the past two weeks, he's so.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Well over halfway there.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And another five hundred thousand for nine hundred and fifty
yards from scrimmage, another five hundred thousand for eleven hundred
yards from scrimmage. One million dollars from one thousand, three
hundred and fifty yards from scrimmage. So I just kind
of put in perspective what he's done compared to what
the expectations were with the Panthers, you know, I mean,
(12:36):
he wasn't even the starter. I mean, if Hubbard were
healthy the last couple of weeks he would have been
the starter. So you know he's Rico did the right thing.
His agent did the right thing in terms of these
performance incentives. But I think there are going to be
a lot of backs that might hit their incentives against
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the defense for the Cowboys if they don't go up.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Sorry but they I mean it was just bad.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
You.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
You know, every the Cowboys was just moving backwards. Both
sides can't have it.
Speaker 9 (13:10):
They were getting worked and it wasn't like it took.
The difference is that it didn't take him time to
get into rhythm out of the jump.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Like the stats were crazy.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
The first three carries were like it's gonna be a long,
long day.
Speaker 10 (13:22):
And he wasn't just hurting you in the run game.
They were using him.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
That's the thing that as catch and I was like, wall,
Rico become a wide receiver.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I didn't see that here, we didn't uti.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
That's why I was doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I'm sick of you.
Speaker 9 (13:37):
Thirty six That thirty six yard catch I think came
in the third quarter and I said, yeah, he is,
he is rolling and it.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
It was a revenge game.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
I don't care what anybody says, and he he wanted
everybody was talking about Yep, they got the best of us.
Kenny Clark was my player to watch because he was
kind of had a little fire in him in the
locker room about the comments made by Rico and they
didn't back it up. And I think we're having the
same conversations about this defense, about setting the edge, about
the interior lines, and when Kenny Clark is not fantastic
(14:08):
and when Osa is not fantastic, this is the results
and that's not okay. More questions and answers for Mattyberflus
after this game.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Oh, that's that's a great way to put it. I
don't wait.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
We gonna hold on to them in the second stay.
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Speaker 3 (18:07):
Anyways, all right, I know that Cowboys back to this
this unfortunate loss Cowboys fall to the Panthers thirty twenty seven.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
The final Uh and Breed brought up a great.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Point I mean, you look at the numbers. The Cowboys
gave up more than double, almost double the amount of
total yards that the Cowboys offense even had rushing offense.
The Carolina Panthers be able to run the ball effectively,
obviously two hundred and sixteen rushing yards for them in total.
But talk about this defense. What did this loss reveal about?
(18:39):
This defense.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Is more than pointing the finger at the at the
past defense. And I think we've shared I've shared this
before several times on the podcast, but with Cowboys Radio
we have a little saying it's like everybody's got problems,
but when the problems don't aren't fixed and addressed, then
you got issues. So the first month of the season,
(19:03):
you can say we got problems because you know, you
can say, all right, new new system, new coordinator, new players,
everyone kind of getting adjusted injuries in particular in the secondary.
But now you're six games in, y'all we got issues.
And that's that's a difference. It doesn't mean that the
issues you know that you can't fix them, but you
(19:26):
hadn't shown yet that you can.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
And that's that's what's worries.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That sounded like my mama, when you used to get
in trouble's we got some issues.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
There's there's no magic button, and there's nothing on this
defense where you like, like Christy's point where you're kind
of harping on the secondary, right, they're healthy. Now, there's
nothing that you can say like, Okay, the secondary just
has to do this, The linebackers just have to do this,
the interior just has.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
To do this.
Speaker 9 (19:56):
It just like it is so many different things right now,
and I don't think it's fair my get attacked. Social
media was going a little crazy about Matt Everflus.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He just has to go.
Speaker 9 (20:07):
Okay, so if he goes, then what the defense just
gets better going into week seven and then somebody else
who hasn't been with this team comes in.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
No, I don't think that's the answer at this point.
Speaker 9 (20:18):
You got what you got, and I know there's can
be some people who step up.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
But Christy, I was actually.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
Thinking about messaging you yesterday when I was do the Cowboys, Like,
when's the last time the Cowboys have fired a coordinator?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Oh, during a season?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
They don't. Yeah, it was back in the day during.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
The boy the Eagles fired their offensive.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Course they don't mess around over there.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Of course he was new, you know, I mean calling
yeah stuff.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
The firing thing was what I was like, that's what,
That's what everyone you know, as fans, they just get
him out of there. But then you really like think
about let's let's be calm, like then what But I
do think to your point, Christy, something's got to change.
And I think you hear the respect Shotenheimer has for
Eberflus and all the people that he brought with him
(21:08):
from Chicago in here and having the faith and even
last night saying that he believes in the scheme, that
he believes the players still believe in the scheme. And
that could be a whole different conversation because I was
hearing other things in the locker room last night. But
I think it's a fair question if maybe he needs
to take a step back from the play calling at
least and just at this point just try something new,
get something in there, because I think you're seeing not
(21:30):
enough changes and to be able to take a step
forward last week and then take three steps back this
week and kind of just feel like there's no answers.
I don't think it's fair to this team, and I
think he is, despite what you might hear, is losing
the locker room.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Who would step in in play call, though, if you're
saying that's the.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
Step back, I would think it would be if it
was someone in the house, I would think it would
be White Cotton.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
It could be I was. He's the most tenure in
a sense.
Speaker 8 (22:00):
But even at that, I mean the issue, I think
it's a mixture of two things. I think it's it's
the schematics and what they're being asked to do, and also,
to let's go take it a bit further, is that.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
There's been multiple.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Defensive coordinators over the last few years, and so guys
have not really had an opportunity to learn a system,
stay in the system, growing a system. It is ever
revolving and changing, and guys are having to adjust. I
understand that's football. I understand that that's football. I understand
that's a part of the job and everything. But I
say it once, I'm gonna say it again. In the military,
(22:37):
they say if everybody feel in the test, then maybe
the teacher has to look at how they're giving the test.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Maybe we need to do maybe we need to review
a little bit more.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
You know what I'm saying, maybe maybe you need some
extra study, guys, and I feel like they're so y'all,
don't y'all. I'm telling y'all, there's so much miscommunication on
the field all the time from guys, and of course
you know you have some I think about I think
about the loss of Jordan Lewis and how he used
to he told me verbatim he really connected the front
(23:05):
seven to the back, to the to the back three
or however many people's back there. And then also too,
you lost Samborne yesterday, which Sanborne wasn't there, and again,
I know, help communicate, but he.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Can help communicate.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
At the very least I think the communication was was,
you know, not where it needed to be. But going
back to ebra Flus, Dallas blitz five times yesterday. I
understand being nervous about the back end, but this quarterback
has not shown you that they are able to fight
to play the blitz. That's something that's on tape. That's
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something that shows in the numbers, is that when you
pressure this guy that he struggles. Bryce Young, he struggles
to see what the right read is.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
Give yourself a chance.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Because the time that they did blitz a few times
when they did blitz it was beneficial. Now, they did
try to throw some styn We'll give you Ebra Flu
some credit. They did try to throw some stunts, some
twists in there, but guys didn't play their assignments. So
it's a mixture of execution and also too you know
what is going on right now. So I don't know
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what the answer is because I don't know if you
have the adequate personnel to do some of the stuff
that he wants to do.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
But then I'm also like.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
Well, even if you did have the personnel, are guys
going to be doing their job? And this is not
something new. We've heard this from other coordinators. We heard
this last year before, at the beginning of the year
with Zimmer like, I don't know's it's just not a
good It just doesn't feel good even when.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
You're watching it.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
But at this point of the last year, things were
starting to turn with the defense a little bit.
Speaker 7 (24:42):
They were started, it was starting to come out.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
And going back to your question, Brie, about changes defense,
particularly defense in the season or just with a coordinator,
I mean, other than when Wade Phillips was fired in
twenty ten, it was his defense and he called he
called the play right, he gets fired as head coach.
I think that was after seven games into the season,
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go up to Green Bay and just lay an egg
up there, and Wade Phillips gets fired as head coach
and so and defensive play caller, and Jason Garrett goes
from offensive coordinator to now the head coach, and so
Paul Pasqualoni was promoted to defensive coordinator. And he wasn't
(25:25):
one of Wade's guys, so to speak, passed Gualone a lot.
If that name is familiar beyond Cowboys head coach at
Syrahcuse and just a longtime coach. So he came in
and then after that, I think it was when Rob
Ryan was hired later, you know, after the season and
all that. But other than what was at twenty ten,
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so yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
Yeah, unlike other organizations.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Yeah, but it was because you moved the head coach
out and he was the defensive play caller that it
was essentially almost like a change.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
And for Jared to not talk yesterday, you know what
time it is, he knows today's birthday.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
I feel bad for him because.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I think it was who did they lose to? Yeah, birthday?
I remember that.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
I'm not gonna let but but free Slurpy Slurpy Sam.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
At the color Lighthouse.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
It's not gonna mesh mine stop.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
But I think I think also too, when you talk
about the defensive line, like my gosh, guys, like I
think that there's there's an issue. We talked about the
inability to get pressure. We talked about, you know, these
guys not being able to get home like that. Again,
I think it goes back to some of the personnel stuff,
is that you know, you have certain guys that you
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can have in their own rundowns, but they can't be
on their own passing downs, and then end you don't
really have a speed rusher, which is seriously what people
look for for a defensive line at this point is
that you at least used to have one guy that
can win off the edge consistently, and you're not seeing that,
like some of these passing downs, their inability to get
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off the field on third and longs and third downs,
it is decimating.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
It's the more linzing, and I'm sure it really is.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
Like I said, if we feel like that, I can
only imagine how they feel not being able to get
off the field on third down And to your point earlier,
they're attacking teams are really attacking your linebackers in the
passing game. Yah, they are going at your linebackers in
the passing game. They don't believe that they can get
to the spot, they don't believe that they're gonna tackle
(27:36):
them where they are. It's just I mean, even if
we talk about the run, the pass is killing you too,
like you ladies were talking about earlier.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
So this is a tough spot to be in. It's
a very tough spot to be in.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Like I said, I don't know what fixes it. I
guess I want to ask you ladies. This is where
I met with it, because we were just talking about
before we came on this offense and what they've been
able to do and what they are at this point.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
Do you are you aggressive?
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Cause I felt like if Dallas won this game, then
I would want for them to and maybe they get
a win against Washington, then I would want for them
to try to make some move or do something to
supplement what this offense is doing. How are you, ladies,
feeling about that now? Do you feel the urgency still
to try to balance out this team because it's so unbalanced.
(28:28):
What would you do right now? Because you gotta figure
out how to keep this locker room together. No, we
can't just say we're gonna just keep doing this every
week and be close in games. Cause the quarterback is
not gonna let you just get killed in games.
Speaker 7 (28:42):
He's he's too competitive.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
But you're saying, supplement the offense, why not try and
supplement the defense.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Well, that's what I mean supplement the defense by you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (28:51):
Supplement the offense. If you supplement the defense, it's gonna
help them. That's what I meant by That's what I
meant by How do we make it balance for them
to feel like this is a they have a fair
shot in games?
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah, and I think breeze up.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
You know this would be an MVP year for Dad, right,
And you've only got two wins, So I don't think
you can waste this season.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I don't think you can either.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
A lot of people are just like, let's just wash it,
let's just and I'm like that, I agree. I'm like,
you can't do that. I'm not about to start doing
draft work.
Speaker 10 (29:23):
And that's where that's where it feels like it's headed.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Last last week, Shade.
Speaker 9 (29:29):
Where it feels like the last last week, the frustration
looking in is like it felt like you were like
arguably two three pieces away from defense to having a
winning season overall, and then this week is like nobody
showed up.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
And to your point, I need shit.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
It's not just us sitting up here talking about okay,
the defense.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
They look confused. They're telling us during the we don't
I don't know what we're supposed to be people. The
scheme isn't working.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Too many busted coverages like these are coming from the
player's mouth. So that's what I'm telling you know, there's
more questions than answers, and it's going to be beyond
Mattie Refluse. Schottenheimer's play is full as well. What do
you do at that point? That's why I it seems
like a stretch. Obviously, if someone gets fired, that's not
with to Christy's point, that's not what they do here,
(30:27):
and maybe even a stretch from what I'm saying, someone
else take over.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
The play calling.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
But like it don't feel too much stress when you
have Dak Prescott in year ten, healthy playing MVP type
of football right now, and if they had a whizzy,
if they had a winning record, he'd beat in those conversations.
But he's not, and that's not fair to him and
what you're asking him to do. And I guess you
can hope Ceedee Lamb comes back next week and they
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put up forty points. But it's gonna feel at this
point we're seeing from the defense, gonna feel like a
coin toss of what the defense does.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
That's what it feels like. Let me, I'll show you something.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
History shows that this team won't try different things in
the play calling area. I'll say, just because you brought
up wayde Phillips, how that was back in twenty ten,
you said twenty ten. History also shows that they are
not necessarily the most aggressive team when it comes down
to getting to the trade deadline, which is November fourth,
(31:23):
by the way, At what point do you decide, Okay,
we actually want to have success this season and go
out and get a player or maybe two defensive players
specifically to kind of better this team.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Well, you have the draft capital after the Micah trade.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
And here's the thing the NFC East, the Eagles ain't
running away with it. They got their own problems, right.
This division is still ripe for the taking and it's
down as everybody is today and rightfully so, because it
was pretty yesterday and we're all lamenting that.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
And that's fine. It's over reaction Monday.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
We get it, and I agree with everything that's being said,
but just about.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
But you're a game and a half out.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Talk about it.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
You're a game and a half out in the NAST
and it doesn't matter what the NFC North does, and
it doesn't matter if Tampa Bay runs away with it
or the Rams in Seattle keep winning. All you have
to do is win your division, and by the way,
you get a home playoff game.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
And it never repeats, by the way.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Since since the early two thousands, Donovan mcnappy Eagles. That's
how long it's been since you so you know it
ain't over yet, right and so so yeah, I expect
the Cowboys to be aggressive at the trade deadline this
year because the offense is there.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
It's there.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
They're trying to win now, yes, and it's they're even
just seeing George Pickens. I don't wanna talk about him
in the next seven but seeing George Pickens playing the
way he's playing and just having fun with it.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
And that's without CD Lamb.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
There Yeah, since when do we feel like a CD
Lamb is not involved in this offense? Again, a Kavante
Turpin who's become Cavante Turpin is not just a gimmick player.
I mean number one, he sets up your offense with
the return game, and we saw that that wasn't as
efficient yesterday as well. So you miss you missed him.
So not only is Dak like you you you know
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you ladies mentioned you know the offense, not only is
the offense having to they're having to drive more of
the length of the field now because they're not getting
starting field position. But yeah, you're talking about George Pickens
and Dak and him just enjoying playing football together. I
never would have thought that Dallas not having CD Lamb
would be able to operate in the passing game the
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way that they were able to ride f Illinoy having
another strong day at the office, not as crazy as
last week, but efficient. It's it's one of those things
where I feel the same way. I'm like, hey, you
need to make a decision on what you're gonna do.
But again, like Bri was saying, how beneficial is it
gonna be if you.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Go out and you expend again, if you're gonna.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
Expend draft capitalbal capital, it better you better come on
with it. It like there needs to be some answers
and solutions and how is this gonna look and what
is this gonna look like if they do that? And
I don't know if you have any certainty on if
a noop, if other players are going to make this
system all of all of a sudden start start working,
(34:33):
cause it doesn't seem like the operation of it is
working well anyway. Not saying I want to be aggressive,
but for what part you wanna be smart about how
you'd intend on doing that? And that means some people
are gonna have to sit down or they're gonna have
to go to the house.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Okay, On that note, we're gonna take our second grade
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Speaker 4 (34:55):
To the house yet. So we're gonna be right back
with more of the show after the break.
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Speaker 4 (37:38):
Wig up. I only did that one time this show.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
This is the second time we got.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
I really do think it's impressive that you say it
like that, You say it in the same key, in
the same Okay, just.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
That's my music.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Consistency.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
Some fide about consistency, youl, youon't be flat, you be right,
thank you, perfect pitch sister.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Wig up every time? All right, thank you?
Speaker 7 (38:02):
It is pretty good, ain't it. Appreciate it?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
You know, so it's been consistent.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
George Pickens g P.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Three, I know he's having the time of his life.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yes, nine catches, one hundred and sixty eight yards one touchdown.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I mean talking about the the kiss to the fans,
and the hurtling over defenders and leeping on the ball.
It was just ridiculous. It was fun, though, fun to watch.
He's so crazy.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
I think did that he looked like when he catches
the ball, y'all, he looks like he running.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
He looked like he'd look like a kid that'd be
got something in the hand.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Yeah, and he's a fact.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
And it's crazy because you first of all, let's let's
talk about the separation. Come on, verse Pickings. The separation
is so great. He'd be scaring me the way he
be carrying the ball. But there's no one near him
most of the time.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
So he just feels like he can freely maneuver.
Speaker 8 (38:47):
I love how he can get I think I'm not
sure if I'm using the right verbage, but he kind.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Of he gets skinny in the open field.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 7 (38:54):
Yeah, Like he's so.
Speaker 8 (38:55):
Slim and slippery, and the way that he's able to
maneuver through tackles. All thirteen shout out to Bobby Bell.
All thirteen of George Pickens receptions on third and fourth
down this season have been converted for first downs Pickens
only is also second in the NFL and on third
and fourth down receiving yards with two hundred and eleven
only trail in Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
What a stat number one.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
And when you think about again losing seed Lamb you
know who also too, when he's available, is one of
the best wide receivers on third down. See you now,
So to get George Pickens in here and to can
maintain that, and let's talk about it. Dallas has been
behind the chains the last two weeks. There's been a
lot of second attends, second and longs, third and longs,
(39:38):
and Dak Prescott in this receiving corps has still been
able to continue to move the ball downfield and get
these big third downs when they needed to in these games.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
So shout out to George Pickens. He's playing great football, ladies.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
Yeah, but when he switched hands and then freed that
hand so that he could deliver the blow, it's like
protect ball projection, don't. Yes, yes, that.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
He got because he got a hit and problem I
seen him. It's supposed to be a stiff arm, but
it's a stiff's lap.
Speaker 13 (40:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Hey, by the.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Way, you kind of your hands are important when you're
a receiver. Don't crash them into an opponent's helmet.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
You know.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
It's like wow, but that was a heck of a play.
But you're right sleep sleeping on the football. Like see
if just as recently as a few years back, that
would have been a penalty because you can't you couldn't use.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
The ball as a prop.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
So that's when it was no, fundly, that's what we
have some fun. Yeah, well they wouldn't know to do it.
Speaker 10 (40:34):
Oh, Joe Sinko was acted a full salsa.
Speaker 9 (40:38):
The game has changed, Uh, to your point, I should
when you're looking at what Pigins is able to do
when he's on those one to one is amazing. And
the stat I wrote down yesterday during the game, so
against zone coverage to reception forty one yards, but against
man coverage, he caught seven of eight of his targets
for one hundred and twenty seven yards.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
That's all eleven routes.
Speaker 9 (40:58):
So out of eleven times going on those one of ones,
eight of them. Uh was Dak saw him for eight
of those and he was able to snag seven of them.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
That's why he had day he has.
Speaker 9 (41:07):
And that lets me know that the trust with Dak
and Pickens is exactly where you want it to be,
because if you think about where they kind of started,
it was a slow start for Pickens when CD was
out there. So my hope is when he comes back,
they're able to figure out how to utilize them both
because I think this is like the perfect confidence for
Pickens because I feel like he in his mind and
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he said when he got here, he's a number one receiver.
He knows whose offense this was, but in his mind
he's coming into like a number one receiver. And I
think we also saw him in the beginning trying to
figure out how to stay involved in this offense when
you are hitting Ceedee Lamb for those for all those reps.
Now you have another guy who's proven that he can
be your number one. I think if Shoddy, who I
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do have faith in as a play caller, is going
to be able to figure it out because I think
now Pickens feels like what he can be for this team,
and I don't think you saw that when CD was
healthy in here, so I know there talks about him
possibly coming back next week.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
It's gonna be a great time because they're facing the Commanders.
Speaker 9 (42:08):
It's going to be an important game obviously, like you
mentioned with the standings, but yeah, Pickens is with the highlight.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I was like husting the press box. I was like,
I was like, what am I going to do?
Speaker 9 (42:16):
Because you know TV, I have to like kind of focus.
I was like, what am I talk about? They're like Pickens.
I was like, all right, Yeah, it's fun and it's
easy and he's consistent and he's showing up mimig ways
and like I said, he is going to get paid.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
And I really really hope this team here yeah, figures out.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
What I love seeing was that it was a second
and seventh play. I believe the conversion he made in
the early third quarter, and then he goes to Dak like,
come back to me, next play, third and five, third
and seconds are at the thirty five and that's.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
When he broke off for that touchdown.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
So you're seeing his confidence kind of grow, which granted,
nobody wants injuries to happen, of course, And when you
saw ceedeelamb go down, I feel like it was something
that GP needed in order to kind of get those
opportunities to showcase what he can do.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
I feel like he kind of fell.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
There wasn't really a true balance in terms of utilizing
him the way that I feel like that shot he could.
So hopefully, you know, Shody continues to find a way
to maintain the ball distribution like he's doing. But I mean, overall, ladies,
where does his team.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
Go from here?
Speaker 8 (43:26):
I mean, at this point, anything you just keep trying
to stack together. I mean, because we didn't talk about
it that much. But the run game really struggled yesterday.
And I think that's the beauty of having a balanced
attack is that you're not one dimensional, like you're able
to take advantage of a situation where he's like, okay,
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well Dallas was like, we're not running the ball. Well
we can't get anything going on the ground. Let's pass
this thing. And that's to.
Speaker 7 (43:55):
Me, that versatility and that multiplicity that Shot he's talked about.
Speaker 8 (43:58):
This is why he's talked about it, is that there's
gonna be times where it's hard to get things on
the ground, but they were able.
Speaker 7 (44:03):
To pass the boss. I'm not worried about the offense.
That might be my only worry.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
I guess it's them trying to figure out how to
continue to breeze point, how to continue to be balanced
with these two receiving threats, because SHOT's doing things for
Pickens that he hasn't gotten experience as much. He's getting
moved into the slot, he's getting moved out to that
he's getting moved to the outside. I mean, he's he
predominantly with Pittsburgh was an ex receiver and him getting
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the opportunity to kind of show what he can do.
I think opens up your offense so offensively, I just
feel like you keep doing what you're doing. I don't
really feel like we have a whole bunch of complaints
about what they're doing offensively. It's defensively, how do you
figure out how to at least just get four five
stops a game and put your offense in position to
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or turnovers?
Speaker 7 (44:51):
You wanted to turn off a battle yesterday? You did
you want to.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
Turn Donovan Wilson got that interception? Yeah, first half was
I have a big play. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
My keys to the game for Cowboys Radio, it's Bryce Young.
It was what we talked about on Friday, the ball.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
But just one time yesterday.
Speaker 5 (45:11):
But that's because you didn't have an effective pass rush
on him, consistent pass rush on him.
Speaker 9 (45:16):
Yeah, he put it out very much comfortable and to
your point to the run game, we haven't talked about it,
but Miles Sanders is out now for the rest of
the season, so I think we were just talking about
how to kind of preserve the Javante Williams greatness and
obviously the.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
Run game yesterday. I know I should will dive into
the film.
Speaker 9 (45:37):
I don't know if that's totally obviously they're in getting
worked in the trenches, but also where they're not open lanes.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
It was it was kind of tough to watch because
you've seen that.
Speaker 9 (45:46):
We weren't even worried about it going into it, and
it does feel like, okay, how they remain balanced because
that is the winning recipe for the offense going forward.
We don't know what's going on defense, so like, let's
just make sure the offense stay where it is and
keeps elevating while the defense tries to play catch up there.
But I think that is a conversation of what happens
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next because that's a lot more on Jaden Blue's plate
if he's going to be the one two punch in
Javonte Williams.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Yeaho zero yards on three carries yesterday. Now they only
had nineteen carries and only had the third yards, so you.
Speaker 9 (46:22):
Can't put that all because thirteen but Davonte's as second
lowest he's.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Had this season.
Speaker 6 (46:26):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Nineteen carries overall for the Cowboys for thirty one yards
one point six.
Speaker 7 (46:33):
Interior that they lunched money eight.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
Boy a Shawn Robbins, I mean Derek Brown, but a
Shawn Robinson boyded he.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
They have rotation that interior, and they let you know
all day their safeties came up and tackled their corners,
flooded the flats. I mean it was very impressing. Well
it was just very little there on the ground. But yeah,
it's all right tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Hey, it's gonna it's you know, until it's going to
continue to be shootouts, you know.
Speaker 9 (47:02):
I mean yeah, everybody teams that what they had their
highest points this season was thirty and they matched it yesterday.
Speaker 8 (47:11):
What are we but the thing about the shooting, not
the Scooby Doo sounds if with the shootouts situation though,
is again you asked, Nicole, you asked what they should
do moving forward?
Speaker 7 (47:23):
Try to keep this locker room together. Yeah, that needs
to be the priority.
Speaker 8 (47:26):
And keeping this locker room together might be sitting some
people down, having some conversations, letting like this team, this
offense definitely is gonna need to know. I'm sure there's
gonna be some questions like what is happening so we
can balance out this team a little bit more. Because
I can tell you ain't nothing worse than doing a
group project and you feel like somebody not pulling a weight,
(47:48):
oh right, very much.
Speaker 7 (47:49):
So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (47:50):
Like it's supposed to be a team sport, and they're
not playing as a team right now. Whether that's on
purpose or not, whether it's on accident, way for the scheme, whatever.
They that's my biggest and siren, you guys, you ladies.
It's them trying to keep the locker room together so
if the division does open up, you guys are together
enough to go get it and there's not you know,
(48:12):
finger pointing and stuff like that going on.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
That's my thing.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
On that note, they have to try and go get
it on Sunday against Washington.
Speaker 4 (48:20):
And that's back here in at and T Stadium. But
we are back here tomorrow at eight am.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
We're gonna break down this run game and the struggles
they had and dive more deeper into the film for
Brionna Aldridge, Christy Scales, Asha Morrison, I'm Nicole Hudginson.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
We'll see all tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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