December 30, 2025 • 47 mins
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He Chris, we need, we need, we need to redo
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Speaker 2 (02:01):
I guess about what ten to fifteen minutes before we
twenty minutes before at we didn't release Kurt.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
No, he tried, we would let it go. But is it?
Is it official or is it just official? It's official.
Trayvon Diggs is no longer a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yeah, Trayvon Dicks has been released by the Dallas Cowboys,
and of course the timeline is on fire. But one
person who is close to the trade to Trayvon Diggs
in all of his situations and a friend of mine,
and I don't think she's kind of she carried the
water for him a little bit this season, Jays later reported,
(02:39):
Trayvon Dicks just called me to tell me the Cowboys
have released him. While he says he will miss his
time in Dallas, he assures me he is healthy and
motivated as he looks to join another team for another
looking for another piece to add to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So now I don't think anyone close to the team
is surprised by this.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think what's maybe shocking two things.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
One the timing of the whole thing right before the
last game, right and then also, if you knew you
were going to do this, why let him play last
week knowing there's a chance that he could get hurt,
could get injured, or maybe him playing last week was
kind of the last straw of Hey, we just you guys,
(03:24):
tell me what you think caused the timing of this.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is it the the culture.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Thing we've been talking about, where if you do certain
things and you don't do certain things that you don't
need to be around the team, Is it so?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Reporting from Clarence Hill, DULs He said, per source, this
was not a result of a specific incident. It was
a culmination of multiple factors spread over time, including both
performance and other elements. Felt it was the best for
both Trayvon and the Cowboys at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
At this point is the is the is the crazy part?
Like he got one game, but he got five days
left season. But it makes it very interesting on his
part because now he's out there, he's got a clear
waivers correct, which there's probably a lot of well, we'll see.
I guess I would think there would be some teams
(04:17):
that would have interest. But if they grab him, they've
got to pay a significant amount, right.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, let me, I'm gonna pull it up for Q
right now. So if a team would have claimed Trayvon
Dicks off waivers, it will be on the hook for
four hundred and seventy two thousand He is due in
base salary for a week eighteen plus fifty eight thousand
in is UH for his active this week. So Dick
had no guarantee money left on his deal beyond the season.
(04:44):
But so you will be on You would be on
the hook for about about a half a million dollars
if you claim them off.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Waivers for one game in the postseason, in the.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Postseason, and then he's a free agent at the end
of this year, right.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Cor Well if you because you'll be claiming this contract
as well.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
How many years he got left too, So, but.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
There's no guaranteed money left on that so I think
it's two years left on this deal.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So basically you would claim him off waivers just to
say we have your right, we want you on the
team basically for next year, because I don't think anybody
would bring him in in a new system.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I mean, there are some teams that you're looking at
right now that are, you know, the postseason bound that
can look for cornerback depth, you know, to have a
guy on the squad. I'm not sure about like practice
squad elevation type stuff in the postseason. Chris, you can
help me out with that or not. If you can
elevate reset resets, Okay, so you can somebody can sign
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to the practice squad and have him on a practice
squad during the postseason and if they need a durable
corner haven't elevated U you know, whatever week that they
need them. But I mean, shoot, I'm just thinking at
the top of my head, Baltimore. I know it's gonna
be funny, but Green Bay, you know what I'm saying,
(06:02):
even though this boy might be somewhere else rehabing and
getting healthy.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Just Francisco.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
From a clerical standpoint, Diggs was signed through twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So what's that? So that technically three years or.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
That's four more years after this Yeah, three more years
after this show okay, twenty twenty. He was going to
be a free agent at thirty two in twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Interesting, Nate, what's your thoughts on what on what.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The timing him? One game? Left them doing it?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
When it when it becomes toxic, it's never a bad time.
See you know, I've listened to this whole building, rock
and shake. You say you about winning, you say you
about changing the culture, but you're trying to figure out
why was it not toxic? Was it not a good fit?
(06:56):
Was it a problem? Was the player of playing? Was
he outstanding? And then in his play we keep actioning
the wrong questions, start actioning the right questions. Do you
love this guy as a player? Do you love him
as an athlete? Is he good for your team? We
know he's a great athlete. Does he want to play
for your team? Did he not hang out with people
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that that didn't want to be here? Did he did
he do the proper things when we used to see
this kid, they everybody else over there working out getting ready,
he getting his lunch and getting in his car. When
are we gonna start asking the right questions? And then
we'll turn around here try to perpetrate that we're all
about winning. Is that? So? Yes, it was the right
(07:43):
time and it was the best time for whatever reason
you want to make up. Now it's gonna be people
telling you, well, why did we do this? Yeah, come on, fellas,
not you all, not YouTube, not Kurt. But this is
the stuff we've been talking about all year long. When
it's toxic and it ain't working, when it's the right time.
(08:09):
Anytime you decide that it's no more is the right time.
So I'm down with it. If this kid go to
another team and shine and be the best player in
the world, I will be happy for you. Good for him,
I would be happy for him. But if a guy
that don't want to be here and you continue to
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try to make it so when you change everything, your rules,
how you feel, what you do, it don't apply to you.
It applies to Jesse, but it don't apply to Nate.
But you're telling folks, hey, we're going to put the
best player out there. That best player is not only
the best athlete. It's the guy who prepares well. It's
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the guy that gets along with his teammates. And I
ain't saying get along, take me to dinner. I'm trying
to get along on that football field. So hey, anytime
it's the right time, Jesse, did you know the.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Nighttime and God and day is the right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Time as a as a player on the on on
that side of the building, does this send a message
or is this just.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Business?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Because if you are, if you are a player on
that side of the building, then you know even more
than us, right you you you you've you've been a
part of what that looks like. When I'll say, with
some of the things that I've heard offline, allegedly him
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cuts the coach out, him, disrespected defensive coordinator him, you know,
have a spat with the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I mean with the with the head coach.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
You've seen that. You you're sitting in the meetings. So
you you you're sitting in the meetings. You like, oh,
you know what I mean? And and we always talk
to you guys about how the locker room. While it's
it's one unit, it's every locker room. This is no
different than every locker room has clicks. Every locker room
has a set of people who hang together who are
more you know, I always say the office, there's no
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there's no greater group than the offensive lineman noting ever,
in any sport, there's no greater thicker group together than
the offensive line. But there are clicks within the locker room,
and he had a certain people that hung with him,
and and and those uh some of the things that
may have been talked about within that click. So to
these guys, it's not a surprise. It's like, we saw
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this coming. You know, you saw this coming back in
training camp. You know, you you got a chance to
hear there's a there's a group of people who are
I'm telling you right now, who are in group chats,
and it's going crazy right now in the group chat.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You know, your little.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Click, your little your little maybe the wide receivers on
the DBS or whatever it's going it's lit up right now.
So I don't I doubt, I doubt, highly doubt that
this was a surprise to the to the folks in
the locker room down the hall.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Not a surprise.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But does this because you don't hear about this happening
a lot, even even when it's bad.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I think the only thing is I think everyone kind
of knew that this was going to happen. At the
end of the year. Again, no one had this in
the on the Bengo card that hey, Tuesday of the
last week of the season that they were going to cut.
That might be like, oh dang, that's my question.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is that kind of sent a message he just he
just lost a half a million dollars again?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Nah? Nah you once you in a locker room once
you see you know when he when he walked away
from that five hundred, five hundred thousand dollars and let's
just say, me and Jesse in that locker room, we
free aged. We like as soon as he walked through
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the like, man, is you right? You know, but his
boy that hangs with him on his boys be like, yo, man,
you know even though they saying secretly, even though they
saying secretly stupid, you know, they like you're a homie. Yeah,
come on, man, and.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I mean you That's where that's where this started, right
or maybe even before that, but that was I think
that kind of put the writing on the wall, like, Okay,
you're choosing not to be around the team and doing
your rehab.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That is that kind of where this kind of went.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I think it went sideways before that, Yes, it did.
Even when they started the first injury, thank you, right,
they talked about him not doing what he was supposed
to be doing, showing up on time, willing to work
with Britt Brown and company, doing those things right. And
then when you come back from that, and then you
I think that was already.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Because Trayvon Diggs is it the.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
First and he won't be the last dude who comes
into this team, into this league and gets hurt and
does a piss poor job.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
At rehabit.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It is.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
It happened in Nate day, it happened in my day,
It's gonna happen in the future days. So that's not
unique to any situation. What makes it, what makes it
worse is is when you compound it, Because you could
you could be a terrible rehaber and come back and
(13:21):
play well and all is forgiven. But when you're a
terrible rehaber, we've invested money in you and you hurt
yourself again. Now we're saying, all right, see, now you
got to start doing the way we want you to
do it because we got money invested in you. We're
looking for you to be a significant part of our team,
and we need you to fully commit to the rehab
(13:44):
portion of this so that we can get our return
on investment, which means you back on the football feel
fully healthy. I don't give a damn what you and
what you and Brick got going on or not God
going on, or who not feeling who or whatever show
up because we trust our guy. We want to be
able to see you here working every day and then
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want you through that. And then you go, nah, I'm good.
I'm gonna go to Miami and I'm gonna train that.
I feel like that's best for me.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Then you do that. Then when you come back from that,
there is a conversation.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Because of the five hundred K and I told I
lightheartedly joked about it. But while we're trying to deal
with you, we down in the beef with another player
high profile.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
And you keep standing next to him.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I referenced to fifty cent beef, like when fifty cent
was like, Man, I'm trying to ind y'all rule and
y'all keep doing songs with them. So now y'all, now
I'm beefing with y'all too. You add that to the mix.
Now you come out with your documentary. Now you're coming
out with your things of combating everything that you know.
They knew where I was at, lying they they're not
(15:01):
telling the full truth.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Here's about me rehaving me talking to them. Oh brother,
you didn't not.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Now Now, when you when you publicly try to humiliate
those who are in power, their only get back is
now I play. Well, I'm mess with your money. That
five hundred k. Yeah, you ain't getting.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That them forty eight what fifty he was making had
to be on an active roster. Yeah, he missed that too.
He missed that for eight games, for what was it,
eight games? Fifty grand per game.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, And then you combine, and then you compound that
with the whole concussion. Come on, man, the TV that
they know, damn TV follow in your head. Ain't no
damn TV. Ain't no TV poll falling your head. Okay,
if you cool walking away from five hundred thousand to
(15:53):
go train, you good, and damn well, ain't hanging up
your own TV. You got enough money to make somebody
that ain't what happened, okay, And anybody can tell you otherwise,
your boy j Holly Poppy tell you that ain't what happened.
So now you combined that. Now you off the field
again and you hurt again. The need of concussion up.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We're done too, much. It's just too much.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Four week concussion.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's too much. And you don't and then we see
you on the field.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
You don't have the productivity that we that we could
look at and go, we gotta tolerate this because boy,
he's still a Pro Bowl player. It's too I think
the only shocking thing about this is that we didn't
expect it to be on Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
We expected this to be.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
At some sort of at some sortain time this offseason,
Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, you know, we do what happened.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
We knew this happened this offseason, right, we just didn't
think it would happened Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
You know, it wasn't an if, but when this was
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, all right, let's take our first break. We'll find
out where we go from here. And Kurt, I don't
know what's.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Wrong with Kurt. He's just angry. He's just angry.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Boy had enough.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's not here, he's angry. We'll tell you what he
wants us to talk about. Go back in the second
segment to hang out with the boys.
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Back to Hanging with the Bulls.
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Thank you Blockchain dot Com and our buddy Kurt is
not here today, but he was so kind is to
send us his rundown U. He has a lot of questions.
First off, Woodson and Witten named among fifteen finalists for
the Hall of Fame. How many times is that that wood.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He's been on that thing? Now, Chris, do you.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Know this is his last year?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Soever?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That is?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think it's like twenty five years. I don't know,
it's crazy, Okay, so like twenty years. I think. All right,
Witten probably not a first ballot guy?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Is he not? With this list? This is a good list.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It's a really good list, real good lists.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
They don't even take a well with five six. I
take six six is the max.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I don't think a year. I don't think there's a max.
But it's usually it's usually four to seven. I think.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
See, I don't think was it Gates last year that
went in? Yeah, he wasn't a first ballot, he was
a second ballot, right, So like if the Gates is
not getting a first ballot, they're kind of in that
same they're kind of as equals.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, all right, Uh, Kurt, wolves know this thing with
Logan Wilson is wild. I don't disagree. Kurt basically forgetting
to play him. Kurt Wilson, No, fellas that have played
is that a common thing? And Shody said, it's not
the first time that it's that it's happened.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So how does that happen? How do you forget to
play a guy?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I'm gonna say that, Jes Jess is gonna be way
more politically correct in mequick. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be.
They didn't want to play this man, y'all. They didn't
want to play this man. And you know what, because
if he was the top flight linebacker, if he the
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smartest linebacker, why we're having communication problems? Why did you
not play him? You did not want to play him, Jess?
And I know you have something way better to say
than that this listen.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I've never seen a good player get forgotten. Sorry, sorry,
I'm sorry. I've never seen a good player get forgotten
about your point. That may be some time, and that's
a point in time where you're like, oh, man, I
probably could have threw the ball his way a little
bit more or ran a little bit more, but it
being in the game, the whole game, you got zero snaps.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
That's that's not an accident.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
That is very purposeful, because I also tell you this,
he ain't hiding like it wasn't like Logan Wilson was
in the locker room on the stands or hide behind
the bench or whatever. I can guarantee you. We go
back and we watch the cutups of the game. He's
standing right next to the and he got a green dot.
Well his his his second, he's the second thing. Right,
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I'm almost certain every time defense is on the field,
he's standing up next to his linebacker. Coach, he's standing
right next to Aaron White Cotton. He's standing right there.
Because when you when your team is on, when your
when your side of the balls on the field and
your rotational piece, you are standing on the sideline waiting
for them to call your personnel, your packages, your your
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your whatever it is, your blitzes, whatever it is that
you that's that's that you know, I've never seen.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
So we've talked about the linebacker play on this show
all season, right, and we know it's it's not great,
not good, abysmal at times.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Very you went and got a guy in the middle
of the season.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
That can't get on the field with the current linebacker
or you had why go get that was a Was
that a misevaluation of talent? Was that thinking you were
getting something different than you were. Is that somebody that
didn't fit in your system because what you had out
there wasn't wasn't great.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, you know, it's it's sometimes the cowboys doing what
the cowboys doing, misevaluating a guy who had productivity in
twenty twenty two, right, and he was leading tackler in
twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, and yeah, but what
about the rest of those times, whether that be through
injury or whether that be because you got put on
the bench, Like, there are certain things that they they
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look at and they, I'm assuming believe that they can
get that positive part of them to come back to
fruition again. And they overlooked a part of you were
on the bench for the worst defense in the other
worst defense in the league. They bitched you for somebody else,
and now you'm here and the guy who can't line
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up and go to the right positions, you can't play
over him. They probably got here and it's you know,
the whole thing that you know, Matt ebra Flus is
bucking the system and he's going against the establishment. He's
not playing them because the joneses. That doesn't happen, That
doesn't happen, not not not not not repeatedly, like he
ain't been getting reps like that all year since he
(24:24):
got here. When Quinny came here first week, first game, boom.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You don't know all the players? Is fine, figure it out.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Before just do you do you? We'll work around you, right,
They ain't forget about quinnen?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Why not? Why?
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Why the ain't forget about Quinny? How come Quinn didn't
get missed in the rotation?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
In rotation was better than anything you had out there.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
I thought that was what was supposed to be, Logan
Wilson supposed to be. You don't, you don't forget good players.
I'm sorry. Like again, it's it's one thing to go
man as a coordinator. Boy, you know, I really should
have threw the ball more to said wide receiver. Boy,
I really should have got the running back more touches
in this game. But it wasn't because the running back
(25:10):
wasn't on the field. You just showed us not to
call those specific plays. Boy, didn't get on the field,
you me Nate Chris won pump the kids? Uh Faska
Josh whoever else. We all play the same amount of
reps as Logans Wilson, all of us.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
How hard?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
How hard is it to get a to get a
jersey and a helmet on game day and not get
a snap unless you're a a depth, depth guy.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Every play, especial team, every jersey, every jersey except offensive
linemen is truly accounted for on game day to do
something special teams, something right, something.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
So it's hard to not get the field.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
You get a jersey you on something like I may
not have gotten any reps on offense.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I was on every special teams you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
I was on every kickoff, every punt, every punt return,
every kickoff return.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
You were earning the jersey you gave you because those
jerseys are so valuable, and the sheer numbers of we
only get forty was forty six, forty six on game day,
forty six forty eight.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
On game day. We don't get the whole fifty three.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Right, Your backup quarterback gotta get one who's not expected
to get any reps, and then you have you have
to have a certain amount of of linemen in uniform
hope that you never have to go to those guys.
But even those guys, at times, some of those dudes
may be field goal some of those dudes may be
kickoff return, depending on how good of an athlete they are.
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To get a jersey on game day and not be
a backup to back or a backup offensive lineman and get.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
No reps, it's crazy, that is that is not a mistake.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Why would you even why would you even dress that
person if you knew that was part of the plan.
I guess that's my big question is if it's if
they're that valuable, why is that a political thing?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Is that a they are not valuable?
Speaker 6 (27:20):
And now it's also, well, let's let's put him in
uniform just in case because he is the backup ring
dot just in case if Kenneth Voklahoma goes down. I
need another I need a mic. So you know, okay,
that makes sense, Like that's why you go when I
put somebody else out there, well, I need I need
another mic just in case. Because lineback is a physical position, right,
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you can easily bang your knee up, concussion.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
You know, peck, shoulder, much of different things happened to
you in the game.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So but you just how do you feel just trying
to trying to clean up that? How do you feel, Oh,
we just released digs. Now we got to clean that up.
Gott to even talk about the backup live back of
that could even start at the last place. You got
to clean that up. That's next ever I have.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I want to know you got y'all's answer.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I thought about this in the car on the way
over here, and it's kind of it's kind of it's
kind of along those lines.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
What is the elean job he does her on the
resident there launch Jesus Man.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Oh Man, And you know, back in the back of
his mind, he just wanted to say what he was thinking.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
He didn't really want to like keep.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Him coming, keep them coming.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What's the most what's the most turnover you've ever you
guys have ever seen on a roster in an off season, like.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I think we've been seeing it this year.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What is physically possible? Like what could you do?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Like twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Let's just let's just take the defensive side of the ball.
The only people that are probably safe or should be
safe or you're you're two D tackles right, three three
D tackles.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Kenny Osa.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
As a as a roku right, just for potential Kenny
Osa Kenny Osa.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Quinn as aku over shown five. So you got what
six six guys plus depth?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like is that is that possible?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Like I say, Dick, I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, six, So.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Five potential starters plus depth because you have no depth
at all anywhere, Like there's no depth on this team.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
There's a bunch of guys like Samuel last year's contract,
Kenneth Oklahoma Fowler, Uh parryone Winfrey and Solomon Thomas.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And who else we got out there?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Uh I think I think Mary Uh Mary foul Maris.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I think he's still on his rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
You know, Marius was up and coming. I just think, now,
see this is this thing. We could not talk enough
about him last year, up and coming linebacker. We talked
about him doing training camp, doing great things. What happened?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
He talked to me about it, about how much he
loved this system, how this system felt like what he
had in college, How did it was It was a
lot easier than what Zim, what zim summer system was.
He was just a more kind of lineup seatball get pall.
He was like raved to me about it. Christie Scale
sitting right there. We talked to him right there on
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the field at one of the flag football games, and
he was hyped about this is He's like, man, I
can't wait to play this And then yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How do you see the questions I have for coach
Evil Flues is now that the season is over and
I told people I'll freely talk about coach Evil Flues now,
it's some questions got to be answered. What happened to him?
Shamar James seemed to be making headway? Now what took
(31:33):
so long? You get what I'm saying. Those are the
questions I have. Why couldn't we designed something for Wilson,
who is in the box safety? Why couldn't we I think,
you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Just yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I'm with you. I'm with you one hundred percent. I'm
with you one hundred percent, you know. And I think
about also, when when the damn is broke, you just
trying to stop the water from Yes, you know what
I'm saying. When the flood started happening at this point
in time, I'm just trying to stop the water from
just ruining everything, Yes, and thinking about how to incorporate
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this and that and do all. You was like, I
ain't even got there yet. I'm just trying to the
level I got there now. I'm trying to get them
from being historically bad. I ain't even got around to
the fact that developing Jamar James and finding more repsom
mariage lea foul and finding ways to isolate.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Donovan Wilson to get him. I ain't even My mind.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Hasn't even worked there yet because we just gave up
four hundred and fifty yards to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I gotta figure I gotta figure out.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And I'm with that, you know what I'm saying. And
I'm with that, and I hope I'm not sounding petty.
But while you were sitting in training camp, while you
were sitting in Ota, so I'm talking about last year,
talking about we don't want to show nothing. Brother. The
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damn broke the day you said that, when you should
have been running through these difficult things right then, and
you should have been praying, playing in the preseason with
these guys, trying to get some type of continuity because
when it when the first four or five games, it
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was ugly, so you you you never you know if
we come into this football season with that same mentality
because it's gonna be a great that's a great question.
It's gonna be some turnover, maybe with a defensive coordinator
and with some players and assistance and assistance. So now
we're gonna go through OTA's again. We're gonna go through
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many camps again. We're gonna go through a whole training
camp again, saying we don't want to show nothing. It's
only it's only two or three times in a year
that you can get valuable reps for young guys and
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first year players. OTA's mini camp, training camp. You have
so many days you in pads. You can't have injured
players or rest day players. For guys that are first
year and guys that are rookies, are draft picks, you
can't have rest days. And they have to play in
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the preseason because no, they're not playing against the Eagles
starting lineup, but they're getting the necessary reps to learn
your system. That's what I preached last year. That's what
I'm gonna preach this year. Because we sit here and
we joke about it. Right, Hey, we got five games
before we can make an assessment. We did five game
(34:57):
assessment and still I heard ja his knowledge of as
he said, man, I really still don't know. Then we
got on a little fake run with with with with
with starting with the Raiders we're gonna have, and then
I blew up again on us because and now who
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is our cornerbacks? Don't have any? Who is our safeties? Uh?
Who is our linebackers? Or we're forgetting to play them?
Come on, brother, come on now? Is you gonna this is?
This is the Dallas Cowboys. That right there, what I
just said for the last two three minutes should never
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happen to us never.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Hmm.
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Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You think you think with the new rules changes that
kickers are more valuable than they.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Used to be.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
I think with the new ball, the new football changes,
the new football changes, I think kickers become more value.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
What do you mean football change with the distance now
that they can kick.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Before before you had to have the kicking k balls
and all that kind of stuff. Now they get to
bring their own balls in the kind of condition the
way they how they want to have them, just the
way they want to have them.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah. The Tom Brady them got in trouble for Night.
Now the league is going along with it.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Is just like we had never been in a time
where casts is just one fifty two.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yards is like a thirty yard, Yeah, no big deal.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Like before you hit a fifty five yard it was
only a couple like now, like I think Aubrey has
like nine or ten fifty yards or something like that
this year, Like Juggles wasn't getting about four or five sixties,
That's what I'm saying. He wasn't having that in a season.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
You might have three or four. It was just like
fifty now was just like we're good.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
We know how you feel about kickers. Would you pay
a kicker a lot of money? Now? Would you pay Aubrey?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You have to give him the going rate. Whatever the
kickings have, you gotta give him the going rate. Everything
goes up. I'm not prejudice towards no kicker. No, I'm
prejudice towards if that's your main scoring weapon. You know.
But if we had a great defense man that can
keep us in games, man Aubrey would be I'll be
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in there like he's on my fantasy team. One man, right,
that's I have on my fantasy team. I got got
what is the killer? What is the dude that New
York gets on? Dude? I got on my fantasy.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Drafted a kicker in the first round and then.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Every round after because you got kickers have kickers. Kickers,
much like quarterbacks do need a little help. You know.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Well, since Kurt's not here and he put all this
time into the rundown, I guess we'll get to all
this tomorrow with all the breaking news, so I won't
waste any of those questions.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
But Nate, I have a question for you.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I saw something on social media and it was Moose
talking about the day that everything changed with the Dallas
Cowboys practices. Jimmy's Jimmy, I don't know if it was
his first year or second year, but you guys lost
to New Orleans twenty eight to nothing in the first
game of the season, right, And Jimmy said that he
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talked to the players and was like, I've talked to
a lot of different people on how to practice, and
a lot of them tell me you can't treat grown
men like you do in college.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
And these are thirty year.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Old men and they're not going to respond well, and
you guys lost twenty eight to nothing. And he came
in and he said, Wednesday, get ready, because we're gonna
do it my way.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I tried everybody else and if I'm gonna go out,
I'm gonna go out doing it the way I.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Know to do it.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And we said, y'all were all nervous about what was
gonna happen Wednesday, and he said it was.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It was Jimmy wanted to turn his back and hear
the paths.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
He wanted to hear it be different people being on
the ground and all that. Yeah, that you always talked about.
That's what made y'all so successful was the intensity of
the practice.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Like do you remember that, you remember that way?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I remember that, yes, sir, I remember that because Jimmy
thought we had had a decent preseason and he was hyped.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Was that the first year.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that,
and we're gonna do this. Wasn't one is open the cattle,
whoop on us? It just being a man. I tried it,
y'all al way, it don't work. I'm gonna try it
my way and brahm them practices at least the first
forty minutes. It was treacherous. Inside run blitz drill was
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that every day.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Were y'all able to practice paths every day?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, we went Monday and Excuman two, Wednesday, Thursday and
then Friday we were just being the sholer pads. But uh,
Wednesday and Thursday we were full gear and we did
inside run, one on one pass block and if everything
went well, team team lighting up a little bit if
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it did, but if it didn't, team was the only
person wasn't getting hit. Two people wasn't getting hit. Uh,
Emmett and Troy, everybody else was open game. And nobody
won't gonna met with Mike cause he was a thug,
so they were't gonna with him. No, Michael gets your back,
get a cheap shot on Mike. Oh the whole practice
you better, you better be weary. So he was coming,
(43:46):
he was coming, and uh especially you know he had
enough young young players, enough hungry players, enough guys that
loved football that you know one, no guarantee money won
no guarantee money. You know you each week if you
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got cut and they owe you a million dollars and
you got cut a million dollars stayed with them, didn't
It didn't come with you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
And Moos talked about how it could have changed the
trajectory of the Cowboys organization if y'all would have either
played really well that game and New Orleans would have
beat y'all like twenty eight twenty seven, or if y'all
would have won that game, because Jimmy never would have changed,
might not have ever changed.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't agree with that. Coach
Johnson was just looking for the first chance to say
because he believed in what he believed in, because par
Sales was pushing that that narrative. Every time Coach Johnson
had a serious football question, he went to Coach Parceales
all the way up to the Super Bowl, how do
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you handle the Super Bowl week? How do you get
these tickets? How do you do this? How do you
do that? And he would take what he thought was
good from Coach Parcels and bring it to us and
apply it to us. I'm serious. I remember one time
we was going to the Super Boys. Y'all got one week,
you know, because he knew he was going, mister Jones,
getting to make your ticket. You got one week. We
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had to do coming in the back note. You know
I got one week get it out of your so
and he say, and I promise you it been not
no tickets to be moving after this one week, not
in this building, not no. And I better not hear
about it. And Bud James Washington, that dude, that's no
people bro Jay Washington brought him in the back note,
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Thank you, j No. I love your baby.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
All right, fellas, that's it. We'll get to uh the
Giants game tomorrow. Breaking news, good stuff, great perspective, Jesse,
good stuff, great stuff, Nate Kurt, we missed you.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Moneyball Chris Chicago y dbs our Harris is there.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
I'll just say this, he won't be unemployed very long.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Think somebody pick him up this year.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah yeah, but he ain't taking Harris new produce day job.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Like they still give like like Cheato of those guys
and Eli Apple still get opportunities to come and be
on somebody practice squad.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Like he's gonna find a job.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, he's gonna find a job, but he do my
favorite digs. Check yourself before you go, man, because everybody's
not gonna be as tolerant, so you gotta you gotta
wanna do it, he gotta wanna do it. Yeah, I'm
saying everybody gonna be as tolerant.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I'm telling you, Josh, thanks for keeping Chris company. We
will be back tomorrow, same time, same place. On Hanging
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Speaker 2 (02:01):
I guess about what ten to fifteen minutes before we
twenty minutes before at we didn't release Kurt.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
No, he tried, we would let it go. But is it?
Is it official or is it just official? It's official.
Trayvon Diggs is no longer a Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yeah, Trayvon Dicks has been released by the Dallas Cowboys,
and of course the timeline is on fire. But one
person who is close to the trade to Trayvon Diggs
in all of his situations and a friend of mine,
and I don't think she's kind of she carried the
water for him a little bit this season, Jays later reported,
(02:39):
Trayvon Dicks just called me to tell me the Cowboys
have released him. While he says he will miss his
time in Dallas, he assures me he is healthy and
motivated as he looks to join another team for another
looking for another piece to add to the postseason.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So now I don't think anyone close to the team
is surprised by this.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think what's maybe shocking two things.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
One the timing of the whole thing right before the
last game, right and then also, if you knew you
were going to do this, why let him play last
week knowing there's a chance that he could get hurt,
could get injured, or maybe him playing last week was
kind of the last straw of Hey, we just you guys,
(03:24):
tell me what you think caused the timing of this.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Is it the the culture.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Thing we've been talking about, where if you do certain
things and you don't do certain things that you don't
need to be around the team, Is it so?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
Reporting from Clarence Hill, DULs He said, per source, this
was not a result of a specific incident. It was
a culmination of multiple factors spread over time, including both
performance and other elements. Felt it was the best for
both Trayvon and the Cowboys at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
At this point is the is the is the crazy part?
Like he got one game, but he got five days
left season. But it makes it very interesting on his
part because now he's out there, he's got a clear
waivers correct, which there's probably a lot of well, we'll see.
I guess I would think there would be some teams
(04:17):
that would have interest. But if they grab him, they've
got to pay a significant amount, right.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, let me, I'm gonna pull it up for Q
right now. So if a team would have claimed Trayvon
Dicks off waivers, it will be on the hook for
four hundred and seventy two thousand He is due in
base salary for a week eighteen plus fifty eight thousand
in is UH for his active this week. So Dick
had no guarantee money left on his deal beyond the season.
(04:44):
But so you will be on You would be on
the hook for about about a half a million dollars
if you claim them off.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Waivers for one game in the postseason, in the.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Postseason, and then he's a free agent at the end
of this year, right.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Cor Well if you because you'll be claiming this contract
as well.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
How many years he got left too, So, but.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
There's no guaranteed money left on that so I think
it's two years left on this deal.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So basically you would claim him off waivers just to
say we have your right, we want you on the
team basically for next year, because I don't think anybody
would bring him in in a new system.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
And well, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I mean, there are some teams that you're looking at
right now that are, you know, the postseason bound that
can look for cornerback depth, you know, to have a
guy on the squad. I'm not sure about like practice
squad elevation type stuff in the postseason. Chris, you can
help me out with that or not. If you can
elevate reset resets, Okay, so you can somebody can sign
(05:40):
to the practice squad and have him on a practice
squad during the postseason and if they need a durable
corner haven't elevated U you know, whatever week that they
need them. But I mean, shoot, I'm just thinking at
the top of my head, Baltimore. I know it's gonna
be funny, but Green Bay, you know what I'm saying,
(06:02):
even though this boy might be somewhere else rehabing and
getting healthy.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Just Francisco.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
From a clerical standpoint, Diggs was signed through twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
So what's that? So that technically three years or.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
That's four more years after this Yeah, three more years
after this show okay, twenty twenty. He was going to
be a free agent at thirty two in twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Interesting, Nate, what's your thoughts on what on what.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The timing him? One game? Left them doing it?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
When it when it becomes toxic, it's never a bad time.
See you know, I've listened to this whole building, rock
and shake. You say you about winning, you say you
about changing the culture, but you're trying to figure out
why was it not toxic? Was it not a good fit?
(06:56):
Was it a problem? Was the player of playing? Was
he outstanding? And then in his play we keep actioning
the wrong questions, start actioning the right questions. Do you
love this guy as a player? Do you love him
as an athlete? Is he good for your team? We
know he's a great athlete. Does he want to play
for your team? Did he not hang out with people
(07:18):
that that didn't want to be here? Did he did
he do the proper things when we used to see
this kid, they everybody else over there working out getting ready,
he getting his lunch and getting in his car. When
are we gonna start asking the right questions? And then
we'll turn around here try to perpetrate that we're all
about winning. Is that? So? Yes, it was the right
(07:43):
time and it was the best time for whatever reason
you want to make up. Now it's gonna be people
telling you, well, why did we do this? Yeah, come on, fellas,
not you all, not YouTube, not Kurt. But this is
the stuff we've been talking about all year long. When
it's toxic and it ain't working, when it's the right time.
(08:09):
Anytime you decide that it's no more is the right time.
So I'm down with it. If this kid go to
another team and shine and be the best player in
the world, I will be happy for you. Good for him,
I would be happy for him. But if a guy
that don't want to be here and you continue to
(08:30):
try to make it so when you change everything, your rules,
how you feel, what you do, it don't apply to you.
It applies to Jesse, but it don't apply to Nate.
But you're telling folks, hey, we're going to put the
best player out there. That best player is not only
the best athlete. It's the guy who prepares well. It's
(08:52):
the guy that gets along with his teammates. And I
ain't saying get along, take me to dinner. I'm trying
to get along on that football field. So hey, anytime
it's the right time, Jesse, did you know the.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Nighttime and God and day is the right.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Time as a as a player on the on on
that side of the building, does this send a message
or is this just.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Business?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Because if you are, if you are a player on
that side of the building, then you know even more
than us, right you you you you've you've been a
part of what that looks like. When I'll say, with
some of the things that I've heard offline, allegedly him
(09:43):
cuts the coach out, him, disrespected defensive coordinator him, you know,
have a spat with the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I mean with the with the head coach.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
You've seen that. You you're sitting in the meetings. So
you you you're sitting in the meetings. You like, oh,
you know what I mean? And and we always talk
to you guys about how the locker room. While it's
it's one unit, it's every locker room. This is no
different than every locker room has clicks. Every locker room
has a set of people who hang together who are
more you know, I always say the office, there's no
(10:15):
there's no greater group than the offensive lineman noting ever,
in any sport, there's no greater thicker group together than
the offensive line. But there are clicks within the locker room,
and he had a certain people that hung with him,
and and and those uh some of the things that
may have been talked about within that click. So to
these guys, it's not a surprise. It's like, we saw
(10:39):
this coming. You know, you saw this coming back in
training camp. You know, you you got a chance to
hear there's a there's a group of people who are
I'm telling you right now, who are in group chats,
and it's going crazy right now in the group chat.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You know, your little.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Click, your little your little maybe the wide receivers on
the DBS or whatever it's going it's lit up right now.
So I don't I doubt, I doubt, highly doubt that
this was a surprise to the to the folks in
the locker room down the hall.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Not a surprise.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
But does this because you don't hear about this happening
a lot, even even when it's bad.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I think the only thing is I think everyone kind
of knew that this was going to happen. At the
end of the year. Again, no one had this in
the on the Bengo card that hey, Tuesday of the
last week of the season that they were going to cut.
That might be like, oh dang, that's my question.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Is that kind of sent a message he just he
just lost a half a million dollars again?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Nah? Nah you once you in a locker room once
you see you know when he when he walked away
from that five hundred, five hundred thousand dollars and let's
just say, me and Jesse in that locker room, we
free aged. We like as soon as he walked through
(11:55):
the like, man, is you right? You know, but his
boy that hangs with him on his boys be like, yo, man,
you know even though they saying secretly, even though they
saying secretly stupid, you know, they like you're a homie. Yeah,
come on, man, and.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I mean you That's where that's where this started, right
or maybe even before that, but that was I think
that kind of put the writing on the wall, like, Okay,
you're choosing not to be around the team and doing
your rehab.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
That is that kind of where this kind of went.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
I think it went sideways before that, Yes, it did.
Even when they started the first injury, thank you, right,
they talked about him not doing what he was supposed
to be doing, showing up on time, willing to work
with Britt Brown and company, doing those things right. And
then when you come back from that, and then you
I think that was already.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Because Trayvon Diggs is it the.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
First and he won't be the last dude who comes
into this team, into this league and gets hurt and
does a piss poor job.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
At rehabit.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It is.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
It happened in Nate day, it happened in my day,
It's gonna happen in the future days. So that's not
unique to any situation. What makes it, what makes it
worse is is when you compound it, Because you could
you could be a terrible rehaber and come back and
(13:21):
play well and all is forgiven. But when you're a
terrible rehaber, we've invested money in you and you hurt
yourself again. Now we're saying, all right, see, now you
got to start doing the way we want you to
do it because we got money invested in you. We're
looking for you to be a significant part of our team,
and we need you to fully commit to the rehab
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portion of this so that we can get our return
on investment, which means you back on the football feel
fully healthy. I don't give a damn what you and
what you and Brick got going on or not God
going on, or who not feeling who or whatever show
up because we trust our guy. We want to be
able to see you here working every day and then
(14:05):
want you through that. And then you go, nah, I'm good.
I'm gonna go to Miami and I'm gonna train that.
I feel like that's best for me.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Then you do that. Then when you come back from that,
there is a conversation.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Because of the five hundred K and I told I
lightheartedly joked about it. But while we're trying to deal
with you, we down in the beef with another player
high profile.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
And you keep standing next to him.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
I referenced to fifty cent beef, like when fifty cent
was like, Man, I'm trying to ind y'all rule and
y'all keep doing songs with them. So now y'all, now
I'm beefing with y'all too. You add that to the mix.
Now you come out with your documentary. Now you're coming
out with your things of combating everything that you know.
They knew where I was at, lying they they're not
(15:01):
telling the full truth.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Here's about me rehaving me talking to them. Oh brother,
you didn't not.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Now Now, when you when you publicly try to humiliate
those who are in power, their only get back is
now I play. Well, I'm mess with your money. That
five hundred k. Yeah, you ain't getting.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That them forty eight what fifty he was making had
to be on an active roster. Yeah, he missed that too.
He missed that for eight games, for what was it,
eight games? Fifty grand per game.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Yeah, And then you combine, and then you compound that
with the whole concussion. Come on, man, the TV that
they know, damn TV follow in your head. Ain't no
damn TV. Ain't no TV poll falling your head. Okay,
if you cool walking away from five hundred thousand to
(15:53):
go train, you good, and damn well, ain't hanging up
your own TV. You got enough money to make somebody
that ain't what happened, okay, And anybody can tell you otherwise,
your boy j Holly Poppy tell you that ain't what happened.
So now you combined that. Now you off the field
again and you hurt again. The need of concussion up.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
We're done too, much. It's just too much.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Four week concussion.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
It's too much. And you don't and then we see
you on the field.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
You don't have the productivity that we that we could
look at and go, we gotta tolerate this because boy,
he's still a Pro Bowl player. It's too I think
the only shocking thing about this is that we didn't
expect it to be on Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
We expected this to be.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
At some sort of at some sortain time this offseason,
Sunday night.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, you know, we do what happened.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
We knew this happened this offseason, right, we just didn't
think it would happened Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
You know, it wasn't an if, but when this was
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Yeah, all right, let's take our first break. We'll find
out where we go from here. And Kurt, I don't
know what's.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Wrong with Kurt. He's just angry. He's just angry.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Boy had enough.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's not here, he's angry. We'll tell you what he
wants us to talk about. Go back in the second
segment to hang out with the boys.
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Back to Hanging with the Bulls.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
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Speaker 2 (19:27):
Thank you Blockchain dot Com and our buddy Kurt is
not here today, but he was so kind is to
send us his rundown U. He has a lot of questions.
First off, Woodson and Witten named among fifteen finalists for
the Hall of Fame. How many times is that that wood.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He's been on that thing? Now, Chris, do you.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Know this is his last year?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Soever?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That is?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think it's like twenty five years. I don't know,
it's crazy, Okay, so like twenty years. I think. All right,
Witten probably not a first ballot guy?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Is he not? With this list? This is a good list.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It's a really good list, real good lists.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
They don't even take a well with five six. I
take six six is the max.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I don't think a year. I don't think there's a max.
But it's usually it's usually four to seven. I think.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
See, I don't think was it Gates last year that
went in? Yeah, he wasn't a first ballot, he was
a second ballot, right, So like if the Gates is
not getting a first ballot, they're kind of in that
same they're kind of as equals.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, all right, Uh, Kurt, wolves know this thing with
Logan Wilson is wild. I don't disagree. Kurt basically forgetting
to play him. Kurt Wilson, No, fellas that have played
is that a common thing? And Shody said, it's not
the first time that it's that it's happened.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So how does that happen? How do you forget to
play a guy?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I'm gonna say that, Jes Jess is gonna be way
more politically correct in mequick. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be.
They didn't want to play this man, y'all. They didn't
want to play this man. And you know what, because
if he was the top flight linebacker, if he the
(21:11):
smartest linebacker, why we're having communication problems? Why did you
not play him? You did not want to play him, Jess?
And I know you have something way better to say
than that this listen.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I've never seen a good player get forgotten. Sorry, sorry,
I'm sorry. I've never seen a good player get forgotten
about your point. That may be some time, and that's
a point in time where you're like, oh, man, I
probably could have threw the ball his way a little
bit more or ran a little bit more, but it
being in the game, the whole game, you got zero snaps.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
That's that's not an accident.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
That is very purposeful, because I also tell you this,
he ain't hiding like it wasn't like Logan Wilson was
in the locker room on the stands or hide behind
the bench or whatever. I can guarantee you. We go
back and we watch the cutups of the game. He's
standing right next to the and he got a green dot.
Well his his his second, he's the second thing. Right,
(22:10):
I'm almost certain every time defense is on the field,
he's standing up next to his linebacker. Coach, he's standing
right next to Aaron White Cotton. He's standing right there.
Because when you when your team is on, when your
when your side of the balls on the field and
your rotational piece, you are standing on the sideline waiting
for them to call your personnel, your packages, your your
(22:33):
your whatever it is, your blitzes, whatever it is that
you that's that's that you know, I've never seen.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
So we've talked about the linebacker play on this show
all season, right, and we know it's it's not great,
not good, abysmal at times.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Very you went and got a guy in the middle
of the season.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
That can't get on the field with the current linebacker
or you had why go get that was a Was
that a misevaluation of talent? Was that thinking you were
getting something different than you were. Is that somebody that
didn't fit in your system because what you had out
there wasn't wasn't great.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Yeah, you know, it's it's sometimes the cowboys doing what
the cowboys doing, misevaluating a guy who had productivity in
twenty twenty two, right, and he was leading tackler in
twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, and yeah, but what
about the rest of those times, whether that be through
injury or whether that be because you got put on
the bench, Like, there are certain things that they they
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look at and they, I'm assuming believe that they can
get that positive part of them to come back to
fruition again. And they overlooked a part of you were
on the bench for the worst defense in the other
worst defense in the league. They bitched you for somebody else,
and now you'm here and the guy who can't line
(24:02):
up and go to the right positions, you can't play
over him. They probably got here and it's you know,
the whole thing that you know, Matt ebra Flus is
bucking the system and he's going against the establishment. He's
not playing them because the joneses. That doesn't happen, That
doesn't happen, not not not not not repeatedly, like he
ain't been getting reps like that all year since he
(24:24):
got here. When Quinny came here first week, first game, boom.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
You don't know all the players? Is fine, figure it out.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Before just do you do you? We'll work around you, right,
They ain't forget about quinnen?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Why not? Why?
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Why the ain't forget about Quinny? How come Quinn didn't
get missed in the rotation?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
In rotation was better than anything you had out there.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
I thought that was what was supposed to be, Logan
Wilson supposed to be. You don't, you don't forget good players.
I'm sorry. Like again, it's it's one thing to go
man as a coordinator. Boy, you know, I really should
have threw the ball more to said wide receiver. Boy,
I really should have got the running back more touches
in this game. But it wasn't because the running back
(25:10):
wasn't on the field. You just showed us not to
call those specific plays. Boy, didn't get on the field,
you me Nate Chris won pump the kids? Uh Faska
Josh whoever else. We all play the same amount of
reps as Logans Wilson, all of us.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
How hard?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
How hard is it to get a to get a
jersey and a helmet on game day and not get
a snap unless you're a a depth, depth guy.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Every play, especial team, every jersey, every jersey except offensive
linemen is truly accounted for on game day to do
something special teams, something right, something.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
So it's hard to not get the field.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
It's hard.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
You get a jersey you on something like I may
not have gotten any reps on offense.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I was on every special teams you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
I was on every kickoff, every punt, every punt return,
every kickoff return.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
You were earning the jersey you gave you because those
jerseys are so valuable, and the sheer numbers of we
only get forty was forty six, forty six on game day,
forty six forty eight.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
On game day. We don't get the whole fifty three.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Right, Your backup quarterback gotta get one who's not expected
to get any reps, and then you have you have
to have a certain amount of of linemen in uniform
hope that you never have to go to those guys.
But even those guys, at times, some of those dudes
may be field goal some of those dudes may be
kickoff return, depending on how good of an athlete they are.
(26:57):
To get a jersey on game day and not be
a backup to back or a backup offensive lineman and get.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
No reps, it's crazy, that is that is not a mistake.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Why would you even why would you even dress that
person if you knew that was part of the plan.
I guess that's my big question is if it's if
they're that valuable, why is that a political thing?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Is that a they are not valuable?
Speaker 6 (27:20):
And now it's also, well, let's let's put him in
uniform just in case because he is the backup ring
dot just in case if Kenneth Voklahoma goes down. I
need another I need a mic. So you know, okay,
that makes sense, Like that's why you go when I
put somebody else out there, well, I need I need
another mic just in case. Because lineback is a physical position, right,
(27:41):
you can easily bang your knee up, concussion.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
You know, peck, shoulder, much of different things happened to
you in the game.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So but you just how do you feel just trying
to trying to clean up that? How do you feel, Oh,
we just released digs. Now we got to clean that up.
Gott to even talk about the backup live back of
that could even start at the last place. You got
to clean that up. That's next ever I have.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I want to know you got y'all's answer.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I thought about this in the car on the way
over here, and it's kind of it's kind of it's
kind of along those lines.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
What is the elean job he does her on the
resident there launch Jesus Man.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Oh Man, And you know, back in the back of
his mind, he just wanted to say what he was thinking.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
He didn't really want to like keep.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Him coming, keep them coming.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What's the most what's the most turnover you've ever you
guys have ever seen on a roster in an off season, like.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I think we've been seeing it this year.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What is physically possible? Like what could you do?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Like twenty five.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Let's just let's just take the defensive side of the ball.
The only people that are probably safe or should be
safe or you're you're two D tackles right, three three
D tackles.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Kenny Osa.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
As a as a roku right, just for potential Kenny
Osa Kenny Osa.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Quinn as aku over shown five. So you got what
six six guys plus depth?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Like is that is that possible?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Like I say, Dick, I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, six, So.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Five potential starters plus depth because you have no depth
at all anywhere, Like there's no depth on this team.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
There's a bunch of guys like Samuel last year's contract,
Kenneth Oklahoma Fowler, Uh parryone Winfrey and Solomon Thomas.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
And who else we got out there?
Speaker 6 (30:10):
Uh I think I think Mary Uh Mary foul Maris.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
I think he's still on his rookie deal.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
You know, Marius was up and coming. I just think, now,
see this is this thing. We could not talk enough
about him last year, up and coming linebacker. We talked
about him doing training camp, doing great things. What happened?
Speaker 6 (30:42):
He talked to me about it, about how much he
loved this system, how this system felt like what he
had in college, How did it was It was a
lot easier than what Zim, what zim summer system was.
He was just a more kind of lineup seatball get pall.
He was like raved to me about it. Christie Scale
sitting right there. We talked to him right there on
(31:02):
the field at one of the flag football games, and
he was hyped about this is He's like, man, I
can't wait to play this And then yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How do you see the questions I have for coach
Evil Flues is now that the season is over and
I told people I'll freely talk about coach Evil Flues now,
it's some questions got to be answered. What happened to him?
Shamar James seemed to be making headway? Now what took
(31:33):
so long? You get what I'm saying. Those are the
questions I have. Why couldn't we designed something for Wilson,
who is in the box safety? Why couldn't we I think,
you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Just yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
I'm with you. I'm with you one hundred percent. I'm
with you one hundred percent, you know. And I think
about also, when when the damn is broke, you just
trying to stop the water from Yes, you know what
I'm saying. When the flood started happening at this point
in time, I'm just trying to stop the water from
just ruining everything, Yes, and thinking about how to incorporate
(32:11):
this and that and do all. You was like, I
ain't even got there yet. I'm just trying to the
level I got there now. I'm trying to get them
from being historically bad. I ain't even got around to
the fact that developing Jamar James and finding more repsom
mariage lea foul and finding ways to isolate.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
Donovan Wilson to get him. I ain't even My mind.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Hasn't even worked there yet because we just gave up
four hundred and fifty yards to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I gotta figure I gotta figure out.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And I'm with that, you know what I'm saying. And
I'm with that, and I hope I'm not sounding petty.
But while you were sitting in training camp, while you
were sitting in Ota, so I'm talking about last year,
talking about we don't want to show nothing. Brother. The
(33:05):
damn broke the day you said that, when you should
have been running through these difficult things right then, and
you should have been praying, playing in the preseason with
these guys, trying to get some type of continuity because
when it when the first four or five games, it
(33:26):
was ugly, so you you you never you know if
we come into this football season with that same mentality
because it's gonna be a great that's a great question.
It's gonna be some turnover, maybe with a defensive coordinator
and with some players and assistance and assistance. So now
we're gonna go through OTA's again. We're gonna go through
(33:50):
many camps again. We're gonna go through a whole training
camp again, saying we don't want to show nothing. It's
only it's only two or three times in a year
that you can get valuable reps for young guys and
(34:11):
first year players. OTA's mini camp, training camp. You have
so many days you in pads. You can't have injured
players or rest day players. For guys that are first
year and guys that are rookies, are draft picks, you
can't have rest days. And they have to play in
(34:34):
the preseason because no, they're not playing against the Eagles
starting lineup, but they're getting the necessary reps to learn
your system. That's what I preached last year. That's what
I'm gonna preach this year. Because we sit here and
we joke about it. Right, Hey, we got five games
before we can make an assessment. We did five game
(34:57):
assessment and still I heard ja his knowledge of as
he said, man, I really still don't know. Then we
got on a little fake run with with with with
with starting with the Raiders we're gonna have, and then
I blew up again on us because and now who
(35:18):
is our cornerbacks? Don't have any? Who is our safeties? Uh?
Who is our linebackers? Or we're forgetting to play them?
Come on, brother, come on now? Is you gonna this is?
This is the Dallas Cowboys. That right there, what I
just said for the last two three minutes should never
(35:39):
happen to us never.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Hmm.
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Speaker 6 (39:07):
You get creative. You gotta get creative. Man, you better,
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Speaker 1 (39:18):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
He gonna get some money.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
You think you think with the new rules changes that
kickers are more valuable than they.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Used to be.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
I think with the new ball, the new football changes,
the new football changes, I think kickers become more value.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
What do you mean football change with the distance now
that they can kick.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Before before you had to have the kicking k balls
and all that kind of stuff. Now they get to
bring their own balls in the kind of condition the
way they how they want to have them, just the
way they want to have them.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah. The Tom Brady them got in trouble for Night.
Now the league is going along with it.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Is just like we had never been in a time
where casts is just one fifty two.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yards is like a thirty yard, Yeah, no big deal.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
Like before you hit a fifty five yard it was
only a couple like now, like I think Aubrey has
like nine or ten fifty yards or something like that
this year, Like Juggles wasn't getting about four or five sixties,
That's what I'm saying. He wasn't having that in a season.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (40:18):
You might have three or four. It was just like
fifty now was just like we're good.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
We know how you feel about kickers. Would you pay
a kicker a lot of money? Now? Would you pay Aubrey?
Speaker 1 (40:29):
You have to give him the going rate. Whatever the
kickings have, you gotta give him the going rate. Everything
goes up. I'm not prejudice towards no kicker. No, I'm
prejudice towards if that's your main scoring weapon. You know.
But if we had a great defense man that can
keep us in games, man Aubrey would be I'll be
(40:49):
in there like he's on my fantasy team. One man, right,
that's I have on my fantasy team. I got got
what is the killer? What is the dude that New
York gets on? Dude? I got on my fantasy.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Drafted a kicker in the first round and then.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Every round after because you got kickers have kickers. Kickers,
much like quarterbacks do need a little help. You know.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Well, since Kurt's not here and he put all this
time into the rundown, I guess we'll get to all
this tomorrow with all the breaking news, so I won't
waste any of those questions.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
But Nate, I have a question for you.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
I saw something on social media and it was Moose
talking about the day that everything changed with the Dallas
Cowboys practices. Jimmy's Jimmy, I don't know if it was
his first year or second year, but you guys lost
to New Orleans twenty eight to nothing in the first
game of the season, right, And Jimmy said that he
(41:44):
talked to the players and was like, I've talked to
a lot of different people on how to practice, and
a lot of them tell me you can't treat grown
men like you do in college.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
And these are thirty year.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Old men and they're not going to respond well, and
you guys lost twenty eight to nothing. And he came
in and he said, Wednesday, get ready, because we're gonna
do it my way.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Right.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
I tried everybody else and if I'm gonna go out,
I'm gonna go out doing it the way I.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Know to do it.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
And we said, y'all were all nervous about what was
gonna happen Wednesday, and he said it was.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
It was Jimmy wanted to turn his back and hear
the paths.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
He wanted to hear it be different people being on
the ground and all that. Yeah, that you always talked about.
That's what made y'all so successful was the intensity of
the practice.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Like do you remember that, you remember that way?
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I remember that, yes, sir, I remember that because Jimmy
thought we had had a decent preseason and he was hyped.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Was that the first year.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Yeah, we're gonna do this and we're gonna do that,
and we're gonna do this. Wasn't one is open the cattle,
whoop on us? It just being a man. I tried it,
y'all al way, it don't work. I'm gonna try it
my way and brahm them practices at least the first
forty minutes. It was treacherous. Inside run blitz drill was
(43:00):
that every day.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Were y'all able to practice paths every day?
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, we went Monday and Excuman two, Wednesday, Thursday and
then Friday we were just being the sholer pads. But uh,
Wednesday and Thursday we were full gear and we did
inside run, one on one pass block and if everything
went well, team team lighting up a little bit if
(43:23):
it did, but if it didn't, team was the only
person wasn't getting hit. Two people wasn't getting hit. Uh,
Emmett and Troy, everybody else was open game. And nobody
won't gonna met with Mike cause he was a thug,
so they were't gonna with him. No, Michael gets your back,
get a cheap shot on Mike. Oh the whole practice
you better, you better be weary. So he was coming,
(43:46):
he was coming, and uh especially you know he had
enough young young players, enough hungry players, enough guys that
loved football that you know one, no guarantee money won
no guarantee money. You know you each week if you
(44:06):
got cut and they owe you a million dollars and
you got cut a million dollars stayed with them, didn't
It didn't come with you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
And Moos talked about how it could have changed the
trajectory of the Cowboys organization if y'all would have either
played really well that game and New Orleans would have
beat y'all like twenty eight twenty seven, or if y'all
would have won that game, because Jimmy never would have changed,
might not have ever changed.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't agree with that. Coach
Johnson was just looking for the first chance to say
because he believed in what he believed in, because par
Sales was pushing that that narrative. Every time Coach Johnson
had a serious football question, he went to Coach Parceales
all the way up to the Super Bowl, how do
(44:53):
you handle the Super Bowl week? How do you get
these tickets? How do you do this? How do you
do that? And he would take what he thought was
good from Coach Parcels and bring it to us and
apply it to us. I'm serious. I remember one time
we was going to the Super Boys. Y'all got one week,
you know, because he knew he was going, mister Jones,
getting to make your ticket. You got one week. We
(45:14):
had to do coming in the back note. You know
I got one week get it out of your so
and he say, and I promise you it been not
no tickets to be moving after this one week, not
in this building, not no. And I better not hear
about it. And Bud James Washington, that dude, that's no
people bro Jay Washington brought him in the back note,
(45:35):
Thank you, j No. I love your baby.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
All right, fellas, that's it. We'll get to uh the
Giants game tomorrow. Breaking news, good stuff, great perspective, Jesse,
good stuff, great stuff, Nate Kurt, we missed you.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Moneyball Chris Chicago y dbs our Harris is there.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (45:58):
I'll just say this, he won't be unemployed very long.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Think somebody pick him up this year.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Yeah yeah, but he ain't taking Harris new produce day job.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
Like they still give like like Cheato of those guys
and Eli Apple still get opportunities to come and be
on somebody practice squad.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (46:15):
Like he's gonna find a job.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Yeah, he's gonna find a job, but he do my
favorite digs. Check yourself before you go, man, because everybody's
not gonna be as tolerant, so you gotta you gotta
wanna do it, he gotta wanna do it. Yeah, I'm
saying everybody gonna be as tolerant.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
I'm telling you, Josh, thanks for keeping Chris company. We
will be back tomorrow, same time, same place. On Hanging
with the Boys.
Speaker 10 (46:39):
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