October 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Panthers (and ex-Cowboys) running back Rico Dowdle has hinted that the Dallas defense should be ready for him. But is he ready for Dallas? Could that defense be in some trouble if both starting safeties are out? Or does this give others an opportunity? Speaking of, is Jonathan Mingo going to get a chance soon? If so, who comes out? And what about James Houston? Does he need more snaps? Maybe … not.
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The first notice just that jumped right into it.
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I'm done.
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Column about that eighty five kids, How we doing today?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I haven't even looked Thursday, this thursdaysday?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, man, good, I haven't even looked at what we're
supposed to be doing today.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's Cowboys defense.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
You want to wing it?
Speaker 7 (02:16):
Sure, Cowboys defense, Cowboys offense?
Speaker 8 (02:20):
Cowboys?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
How was defense?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
You're right, you're right, Carolina offense, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You guys ever have a former teammate play against you
and go off?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
No? No, no, I haven't, no, not even well.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
How you d how you feel about uh?
Speaker 7 (02:40):
How you feel about Rico?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
This week?
Speaker 8 (02:43):
Ready?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
He said, he's ready. He told everybody to buckle up.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
They know what's coming to stop. Man. This dude would
stare at somebody else all the time.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And wave out yeah and you know what, and don't
leave his house but twice a year, Yeah, he got
that glass.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
You got to work out way they come to you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
What do I think about Rico?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Anything to be worried about this week?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
If you're the Cowboys defense, there's nothing to worry about
every week. You know what I'm saying, fair like you
haven't done enough on the football field to where people
you shouldn't be worried about somebody doing something to you.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's why I laughed.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Kenny Clark made a comment when they asked him about
what Rico said about buckling up like that, and he
was just you know, he made his comment. It was like,
you know, they ain't even play nobody like us.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I was like he still thinking and green baby.
I was like, what I didn't I didn't know.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
I know, I'm just I'm asking like like I thought
it was first of all to me, it was a
two way silly comment, like even for Rico to say it,
it's like Rico, you you just got the tuba was healthy, healthy,
like you know what I'm saying, like you ain't. And
I granted be appreciative and happy of the two on
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the yard form that you did. It's a national footballer
to go for two hundred yards is an accomplishment. But
don't talk like you. They don't talk like you prime
Saquan or you on a role like Dereck Henry.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now you had a good game. Great.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I just thought it was silly both ways, for him
making the comment and then for Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
To be like, they ain't play nobody like us. I'm
like team inside of the ball. You played for a kiddie.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
So yes, to answer your question, this defense should be
worried about. It seems rico.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Can they seems like they're when they're good on at
one aspect, they're terrible with the other. They're either okay
at stopping the run and then they give up. Are
they just a bad defense and people are picking how
they want to attack them? Or are they Is it
one of those things where they can concentrate to shut
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one thing down and then the other one they can't control,
Because it seems like they do pretty good in one
aspect of the game every game, and then.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
They get torched in the other one.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Like if you stop to run the pass game is
four hundred yards, if you hold them under three hundred
yards passing the run games one hundred and fifty two
hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, that's a sign of a bad defense. Okay, Like,
that's a sign of a bad defense.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
And because the opposite side of that is what you
have offensively, is that if you want to load the box,
be my guests, I'm gonna beat you in the head
over the top. If you want to drop two safeties back,
there be my guest. I'm gonna hand it off to
Javonte Williams. We're gonna beat you over the head four
hundred and fifty yards rushing.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right So like it's literally jack On Hyde.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
What the Cowboys have going on right now with how
their offenses, I can whoop you up anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I want to whoop you up more offensively and defensively.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Teams are just picking and choosing how and when they
want to do to the Cowboys. Not to bring up
old tape, but you know, you go back and you
watch the Jets game. If feel could throw, like if
he just was a semi accurate thrower, there was I mean,
he had the Garrett Wilson touchdown that he missed on
one side. He had the other one where he could
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have ran.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It was like a like a skinny post, a glance post.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
And when Kyrie Elom got beat and Wanya Thomas's way
inside and the passes like the it's ten yards like
he could just lay it anywhere in the vicinity. He
air melted ten yards over his head and he had
the dude the receiver had beat kyir and was going
in for like a skinny post. If he just puts
it anywhere five yards we can run into it on
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or whatever, it's a touchdown. So if a quarterback has
the ability to throw the ball, which this particular quarterback,
and he's my other little Tink Tink. I know I
called Deuce Tink tink, but this is my other this
is the other tink. Tank Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He a better quarterback than feels that this time or
how do you rate him?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
He is a boy man feels is the better athlete
by far, like not even close. I do think I
think little tank Tink might be a better processor of
the of at the quarterback position and a better thrower
at the quarterback position.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
So what does that mean for us as a Cowboys team.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Then, well, when you when you go when you look
at the Keluta Panthers offensively, you kind of like when
you when you go through the Rothter, you kind of say,
like there's some names on there, right, like you know
who Trooper Hubbard is.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Of course, you know who recal dollars.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Then you go, all right, Tynor Royal McMillan, a guy
that a lot of people wanted to be a Dallas
cowboy this year, but they jumped up there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And the Carolina went and got him.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Then you go, okay, Hunter Ridfrow, a name that you recognized,
you know, a guy who his entire career has been
about the ability to run routes.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Then you go over and you got Xavier La get
another first round wide receiver that they have there.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You look around, you go.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
You damn you know they got a nice cause they
got a nice little stable of wide receivers like pass catchers.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Tight End is not bad, and the offensive line is okay.
It's an okay offensive line. It's not It's not something
that we were looking at and being.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Like, oh well, but so what you're saying is the
quarterback is the issue.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I'm what I am saying is the quarterback has hasn't
hasn't had the ability to get under one offensive coordinator
without so many changes.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And get comfortable in the system.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
He has been it's been a rotating door with offensive
coordinators and play callers and and teammates. It's been a
it's been a constant rotation. So he hasn't had a
chance to really settle in what is his stress, what
is his weakness is and then have that mesh right
like like what you see with.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Brian Schottheimer and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Now you see you see a cohesiveness between the two
because they've had time together, they've established a relationship, and
then there's a concept that comes along with that. He
just hasn't had that he needs that. You know, again,
he just got to the roll miller last year, Xavier
la Gett. He's off and on. You know, he didn't
had they had they had what's the other white receiver
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that went back to Minnesota that runs Veal feeling he
had feeling a year ago and feeling wasn't feeling on
his prime. So like he's getting the weapons. It's it
needs to kind of still take time to jail and
to use your reference. For example, they is this squad
currently as it's uh formed, they're working through their preseason,
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they're working through that first four or five game preseason
and now you know you saw a really good comeback.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, you saw a really good comeback in.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
In that Miami game where they were down seventeen to
nothing and then they mar stairway back in the second half.
But you know, tink Tinko do things like he fumbled
the ball. They did a little rpo and he's rolling
out and I don't even know how he did it,
but he's like the ball's in his hands and I
don't know if he's trying to like pump fake the defender.
He just he just throws them like he dropped the
ball into the ground. Fumble turnover. Then he had another
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interception where he had Xavier Legett. He ran a deep,
deep dig route and he had him, he had him.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He just arameiled it right over the top of his head.
Safety intercepted it.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
So like it's those level of plays that you see
from from Bryce Young that you go. But then you'll
see him roll out to his right and the defender
is closing in on him and he kind of like
pump fake steps back. He goes by and he throws
a laser shot to telor Roll McMillan on the sideline
for completion. You're like, okay, So it's like it's it's
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it's jackuling high for him. He has a little bit
of game in him. You can throw the ball and
he still can throw the ball, but he is processing.
He has some some of the most ac and weird
processing moments.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You're looking your like, what did you see? Why would
you do that?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
And that's what that level of inconsistency with processing, turning
the ball over the roster being inconsistent, you know, musical chairs,
that line and receivers and all that kind of stuff
that leads to you being you know, the number one
or two pick in the draft because your team is
that bad.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
He is five feet ten inches tall. For those of
you that wondered.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Because I did.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Before we go to break Jesse, you had a VIP caller.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
You know, we don't normally do calls on Thursdays, but
I thought this one was special enough for us to
take the call this Thursday.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And he is on the phone right now. If you
want to welcome into the show.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So our good friend from Kuwait most calling him.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
How you doing, brought it's up?
Speaker 9 (11:51):
Hey, I'm fine, I'm fine. Thank you for taking the call.
I won't belong, but I want to tell you guys,
you're not just into national show. You've just become multi
dimensional because you're helping cancer patients in Kuwait get well.
And so I really appreciate that. So now I just
(12:15):
want to update Nate on that trip. I showed the
clip to my office manager and she said, you're gonna go.
You're gonna ride with this guy all the way to
California and then to New York and you're going to
pay for his food. And I said yeah. She said,
(12:36):
I need a budget and she then she said, you're
going to get in a truck all the way to
New York. Oh wow? And so she said, no, you
might might as well. You might as well take the
motor home instead of riding in the truck. And so
(12:59):
we just might take the motor home Nate when it happens.
And then she said, uh, and you're gonna go pick
up Jesse from the from his porch. I said yeah.
She said no, we just fly him to New Jersey
and I'll pick him up from his porte. So I
(13:19):
really appreciate the gesture, appreciate the call, and I just
want to I hope that our Cowboys don't take Carolina
for granted this Sunday, because I watched the previews of
what they did to Miami. They're not just you know,
they're not just an easy team to tackle. But I
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appreciate the call. Thank you guys for what you do
and I hope you wish you all the best.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We appreciate the call more. Thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
Mo.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
You know that we love you here at hanging with
the boys, man, and uh, we want you to keep fighting.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You're gonna beat this catcher battle. Brother.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
And because when you tell us something, you got to
do it. So you got to be canceled so that
we can. You can come to the States and come
get me off the porch. Don't leave me on the
porch again again.
Speaker 9 (14:10):
Yeah, I thought I'm not all right. No, appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
What before you go?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
We need a score, I know, because you won't call
it tomorrow, so you got to give us a score today.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
Oh wow. Thirty two to twenty seven cowboys nicety.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
To twenty seven. All right, Mo, we love you, Bobby.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
MO get well, Thank you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
I'd rather see you.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
See MOA is the only one stick stuck close to
You've been dogging the defense, you know. But there remember
last week, I mean everybody was right because they get
it was twenty two. Jessys sold everybody on the twenty
two move. So that's that's what happened nowt But so
you know he said twenty seven right.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Thirty two?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, so yeah, he's saying our defense when you get
chunked on and ran on the lit bit, better buckle
up because here he comes.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I thought you was taking the show.
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I am wei sho.
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You did a good job the first eight minutes. I
was actually gonna look over there and say, you really
do it? It aren't you.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Oh. I won't be back doing tonight. Thank you. Leave
me on the poor thank you.
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Speaker 5 (17:38):
Right up on me, so upset?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
All right back to it? Are we are we in
trouble in the secondary because we've already got a pretty
weak secondary. You got Donovan Wilson that left the game
and hasn't practiced, didn't practice yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Is that a cat starters already?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Is that kind of a one of those let's see
what we got could be a good thing. Getting the
younger players some reps because they hadn't really been killing
it in the at the safety position, or is this
one of those things where we're really gonna notice this
this weekend, or what if there was a better quarterback
on the other side, it would be a bigger deal.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
How do you feel about it.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Jessum, I mean, I think a lot of the Cowboy
fans are kind of getting what they been asking for.
Like they've been asking for more wan Ye more Marquise
Bell at that position. And you know, I for one,
we as a show, we're not wishing anyone get injured.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Things like that.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Sometimes opportunity presents itself through injury. So we'll see, we'll
see what they get with those two guys. I like Jane,
I like I like Marquise Bell or you know, he
you know, he was putting a position a year. It
was a couple of years ago he had to play
like that linebacker spot situation, and I just was so bad.
(19:01):
It was so and it was unfair, right it was
it was him being asked to do something that physically
he was incapable of doing.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Just sheer size.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
You're trying to play down, you know, as a star
type linebacker and you got to deal with two hundred
and eighty three hundred pounds dudes down in and down out.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Because they really liked him at safety and Nate, you
liked him a lot too.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yes, I love him a lot of safety.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, and then that you're right. They they kind of
threw him into that deal and it.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Was like they were they were depleted, and they were like, hey,
can you go play linebacker this this position in the
star position?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And are you asking her?
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Are you telling me? Yeah? It's like if you want
to start, and hey, yeah you want you.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Want a job?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Of course you go and do it.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
But they're both capable, like Mark keise Bell is capable,
money is capable.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You know, not much starting experience for the two.
Speaker 13 (19:51):
And yeah, do you always think you're you're better than
the guy in front of you unless they guy in
front of you is, unless there's a noticeable difference, because.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes, you always think you're better than that.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I just need a shot, I just need to I
need this opportunity, or they need to play me the
right way, or I'm not getting a fair shape. You
always feel that way, right unless the guy above you
is a stud?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, like you.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Know, like, oh yeah, I gotta find something else to
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
But yeah, if you feel like there is a close comparison,
you want to get in there and you want to
do the job. But in some cases guys come in
there and prove themselves that you know what, you know what,
you are better than him, and that's how you get jobs,
and that's how people get wally pipped. But sometimes you
realize you getting there and you go, oh, this water
is hot, right your mom used to tell you, you
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know that, Yeah, touch the stove if you want to.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You know, you don't believe fat me greasy. Then you
get in there and you.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Really realize that just really like that out here, it
ain't these it ain't It ain't going to look like
on the on the sideline when I come in.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Every once in a while, when.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
You're out there for the whole game, it tends to
feel and look different. So it'll be an opportunity and
to be under this new coaching staff, which I will
give credit to Shaddy. He's been very honest in the
part of the guys who are doing what we need
them to do in practice and showing the things when
they get in the games. I'm giving them more opportunities
(21:20):
and so that part has been rather consistent, you know,
and he said yes in the press conference. You know,
guys don't lose their job, you know, starters don't lose
their job.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Due to injury.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
But those who come in and step up, you we
notice it and you will get more opportunities, you know
what I mean. Shanahaim wasn't here, SHATAHAIMI won here for that,
Like I laughed and joke that was like, yeah, he ain't.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He ain't talking about CD Land no matter what y'all do,
and CD come back. See he gets his job back.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Right, So that part and as a player, you appreciate that, right.
You appreciate the fact that again if I'm backing ceedee
lamb up. As long as he has functioning limbs and
the lung and a heart, he's probably gonna play ahead
of me. But the other guys that were in close proximity.
(22:11):
If coach is saying that, if I keep doing because
you've had I've had coaches say that like hey, if
you do this, this and this, you know we're really
gonna look you're like win, you know what I mean,
Like what do I have to show you? But coach
Schottenheimer has been been true to that. You've seen that
with the you know what, even inserting Nate Thomas in there,
You've seen you know, other guys being benched, whether that's
(22:32):
Kyrie elam or Or or Trayvon Diggs. And so he's
given a lot of guys that opportunity to go in
and show themselves. You know, he put he put Mazi
on the bench first couple of games.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Then j J.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Toya didn't do what he had to do. So now
he's on the bench and Mazi's in there. So there
is that ability to go out there improve yourself when
gods are injured and he gives you a shot.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I'm kind of interested to see what they do with Mingo.
He looks like he's about to be ready. He's not
a starter, obviously.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
But Mingo might give a chance. I think Mingo might
have injured his way out of a situation. And be
honest with you, because when everybody comes back healthy, think
think about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
It's crowded. CD going back. We ain't taking reps away
from him.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Turpin's going back is.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Turpin has we got picks on the other side.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
So he's gonna get old, he gonna get now you've
put Turpin in this thing. He's doing wide receiver stuff now,
so he exists.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
In his own little bubble. You're gonna play him.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
And then now if you're talking about the ascension of
Ryan Fllinoy, if that, if that's working for you now,
because I'm already trying to find reps for him. So
now if he goes out and has another good game
against the Paths, I'm not saying have to have one
hundred and fourteen to fifteen yard game, but if you
go out there puts in another sixty five seventy yards. Okay,
(23:48):
Now he jumps in front of Tobert. So now it's
CD Pickings, Turpin, Flinoy, Tobert unless you get rid of Tobert.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Where does she?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And the thing about it is one of them is
like a favorite DA spoke highly ony.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, so that helps.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Fornoy was in that same camp of Tobert when that
makes the call that he needs folks to come out
to the dockyard and throw.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Those are the dudes who he calls.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You know, Ced he might be in La in Miami
and George might be over here, they'll all come together.
But those who are like on call, on call, on
call for nooy Tobert.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
So, and maybe one of them situations where you know
when to talk about guys opening that window again is
I think Stephen Jones talked about it. It was like,
we we're waiting because if I open up the window,
I have three weeks to decide where this guy goes.
If this guy goes on the roster, somebody has to
(24:52):
come off the roster. So I'm either waiting in the
sense of an injury to happen to develop a ros
that's the spot, or you don't get that, you don't
get your window opened, and you just stay on IR
for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It happens that way sometime.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Since we're talking about wide receiver, and we talked a
little bit about this on the Defense yesterday, taking us
down a rabbit hole. But would you I know, he's
gonna cost a lot of money, He's probably gonna be
hear in that twenty six twenty eight million range. Would
you just try to lock Pickings up right now? Sign Javonte,
(25:31):
Sign Pickens, and then for the next two years you
got basically the same group of guys on offense that
you have now that's performing so well.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I'm glad you said that, because this was a topic
that we brought up on my other show and it
revolved around Javante. There was a site that my boy
Jeff Kavanaugh use and it projects the open market of
what it would be for players heading into free agency
in twenty twenty six. Right now, playing Javonte Williams three
(26:02):
million dollars, Ye, a little over three million dollars somewhere
in that range, right, three three and a half million dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
At the current pace. Now, this is projecting at.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
The current pace, fun site where you're looking at. If
he continues on this trajectory, he's ending the season somewhere
around twelve thirteen to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Hundred yards, okay dollars?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
No no, no, but no, no, no, no, and somewhere around
tennis touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right, you only got five, You got five and five games.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
So if again this is all projection, they're saying the
market for Javonte would be thirteen million dollars per year
in free agency.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
And he's young too, right, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Like, he's not an old back. He's got twenty five
good three four years left him.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
And what's different between a guy like he and a
guy like Rico, so to speak. And this is true
because the Cowboys even operate in this way. Rico was
an undrafted free agent. They treat those guys different. I
can tell you that from my own personal experience. Javonte
(27:17):
was a second round pick. Teams look at a guy
who is a second round pick as a guy who
has the high end qualities and traits and attributes that
can produce the level of what he's producing with now.
So they look at that different. They're willing, they're willing
to spend money on that guy differently. Well, we do
it here. We're talking about Jonathan Mingo. He was a
(27:37):
guy that the Cowboy said, we really liked in the
draft a couple of years ago. We just we couldn't
get up to get him that time. So he went
to Carolina. And you know Russ's history. But you asked
that question, what makes it very interesting to me? And
I said it, and some people didn't like that.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I said it.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
I said, but could the just openly unless you blow
the unless you knock the socks off you you knocked
the socks off David malu Getta mm hm, remember that name?
Oh yeah, remember that name? Who is George Picktt's agent.
(28:13):
Unless you knock the socks off him? Why wouldn't you
wait the free agency?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
He's gonna let him go?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Why wouldn't I Why wouldn't not let my client?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No, unless you give me a number that I feel
like what we're going to ask for a free agency,
I'm not signing now. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna tear right now. I'm also looking at to finish
somewhere around ten touchdowns. If I get ten touchdowns and
close to one thousand yards, I'm going outside. But does
(28:42):
the ascension or of Ryan Flinoy cost you, George Picktts. Now,
here's why I say that we know how this ownership
works if Ryan Flinoy continues to show that he's worthy
of having that type of attention. When Jerry comes in
(29:02):
there and they're trying to do the deal and they're
asking for thirty million, twenty nine million, he goes, well,
we got Ryan Flinoy. Why would I give you thirty
when we got Now I'll give you twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I get you nineteen.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
But I got I got McDonald's at home, right, I
got McDonald's at home.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
They talk about the pie, the pie, the pie, the pie,
the pie I got McDonald's at home.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
If floy and essentially essentially you kind of almost it
almost becomes a wash if you don't sign George Pickens
back because what did you send to get him a
third Well, when he goes to free agency where you're
gonna get a compick back, you're gonna get a third
compick back.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
So it's almost like a wash. Right, it's a rental.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
You're renting them for a year, right, So it's like,
do you want to see Flinoyd continue to grow and
ball out?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Absolutely? It may cost you.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But if you're but if you're upstairs, don't you look
at this stretch of games that they've been in and
go If something happens to CD and.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
We're in contention, like.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Would you rather have the drop off between CD and
Pickens or the drop off between CD and Flinoyd? Because
I don't think he could carry his team like Pickens could.
If you're in, if you're in a playoff run that
that would be my mentality. If I'm going in, let's
just go in. But that's your mentality, right, They've never
done that. They've done upstairs, right, And the same thing
(30:37):
goes for you, but they've never had the capital that
they have now, and I just wish they'd be.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Like the same thing that I think.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I think the same thing that goes along for Javonte, right,
like Javonte's stepped in and now if again, I'm just
trying to think as if a GM with think and
how I would approach it. When Javonte's representation comes in
and they say, you know, hey, we think we value you,
we want you to be a part of this team,
(31:05):
but we're somewhere around six million per seven million per
maybe I'm just throwing a number out there, and Javante's
crew goes, well, you ain't had a back like this
and some time, we're thinking more along the lines of
eleven twelve.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Then they go, well, it wasn't really you. It was
Clayton Adams. It was his system, offensive line, it was off.
It was a system that got you this pressure. So
we could we could pressure you.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Know, we can make another Javante right film off with
the next Javante.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I'm not saying that he is. I'm saying that.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
That's the approach of that's the bargaining, that's the this
is how this thing works, and Javonte as he should
as they running back twenty five year old. If he
continues on this and he's twelve thirteen, fourteen fifty yards,
ten touchdowns, he should also go and test the market
and now see what's what's out there right, and it's
gonna look different than it did the last time he
(32:04):
was out there when he got released from the from
the from the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Because you look healthy.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
You look back to the guy that the Broncos drafted
in the second round all those years ago. It looks
different for Rico because they look at Rico and they go, eh,
you had a nice year, undrafted guy. There's there's something
about that undrafted guy that teams look at and they
don't value it. They don't give it the same. It's
almost like it's a one off. Like you're you're supposed
to be in the league, but we ain't paying you
(32:31):
start the money, you know what I'm saying, Like we.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Ain't, we ain't.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
You're an undrafted guy like you ain't doing this for
three seasons. They had you around there, you was getting
bounced around. They put Pollard in front of you, put Zeke,
they bought old Zeke back was giving him more.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Reption in front of you.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
So they look at that guy like that, but they
look at a second round pick differently.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, I just look at it as you have an
opportunity to have this almost the exact same squad.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
For two or three years.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
If you lock a couple of guys up, you got
a young offensive line, you got some nice backup pieces,
you got a quarterback that's gonna be not playing football
like this. Who knows maybe where they are now, maybe
ten more years, but he's in his prime the next
two or three years. Why not solidify that and then
and then go get the defense to help you out
(33:19):
on that side of the ball. And you got this
piece in place for two or three years just like
it is.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
And then Joey also says, but I got those picks, right,
Why pay the guy is high price?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Why pay the running back ten million?
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Likes to gamble?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
When I got these.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Picks, let me go, let me go roll the dice blue.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I got phil my foot and I got these picks.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Just as a fan, though, I'm like, don't make me guess,
just let me go in the next year, knowing what
I have, like, just lock them.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Up, let me know. What I got.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Let me know, I'm good, Don't make me try to
figure it out the four Like we are now five
six games in and we're still like, what do we
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All right, we wanna go to the end of it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Chris, I mean, Kurt Well.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
I had one follow up question you guys were talking about,
do you guys always think they're better than guy in
front of them? And we're seeing this kind of a
little bit right now where James Houston has been your
best pass rusher, but he's only getting like twenty five
percent of the snap.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
And that's that's all you needs.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
That shit.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I know people, I know that y'all want James S.
Houston full time.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
He is a hired assassin, Like, don't start trying to
take this young man in the deep waters. Keep him
anywhere from eighteen to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Snaps like and I'm talking about more like eighteen to
twenty two.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Make it very, very very specific. When he's a small dude,
two hundred and forty one pounds. He's a small dude.
And then it keeps the it keeps the offensive line.
Guessing I forgot that you say that. I did a
breakdown this morning on James Houston and his pass rush.
How he sets his pass rush up and his past
moves up and you know he lines up in that
(37:58):
wide nine, right, we talk about that wide nine. He's
lined up out there. He's way out there. Looks like
he damn there in the slot, you know what I mean.
Look like he's playing slot calling. He's so far away
from the line. But what it does is he he
liked the guy who was here before him. Their game
is predicated on speed and then turning speed to power
and then turning speed to power to a move right.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And so how he sets you up is that when.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
He gets in this wide nine, the left tackle understands
and know I got to kick out way out.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
There, right, So my first kick is one of those.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
It's a big kickout, and then it's a it's a
kickout and then shuffle, shuffle, shuffle to get out there. Well,
what happens is when I'm cutting, when he's coming off
with that speed and that tackle is kicking out there
the wide nine.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Speed rush speed. When I say speed to power, go
from speed to a bull rush right down the middle
of him. Is I want to catch you in a kickstep.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
I want to because if you get out there and
you get set, well, then three twenty five two forty,
when you grab.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Me an anchor down we dancing. It's a different dance.
It ain't. It ain't a smooth dance. It's a dominating dance.
I got you now.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
But if I catch you where that leg is anywhere
from that that leg is anywhere from being firmly, that
outside leg is planted anywhere firmly.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Than in the ground.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Now I can walk you back into the quarterback because
I took the power away from you.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Because you now you back on your heels.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Now ends up happening If I do that once to you,
Now you kick outside even quicker to get set well
guess what, I'm up and under right, So now up
and under You're like, damn, he got me. He got
me with the bull, he got me with the This
they called next one is the ghost, right he comes
off that. I'm out there and when I go to
punch Von Miller was you go watch von Miller tape.
(39:53):
It's called the ghost because he'll get right there to
you and he'll rip that shoulder and he'll now you
see me, and then you go punch and he up
under you. Now you don't ghost. So now I don't
hit you with the speed the power. I've hit you
with the up and under. I've hit you with the ghosts.
And then now come with the speed again and I
dwight free of you, chop you down, spin off of
(40:14):
you back inside. Go watch the Jets tape. It's on
there that he was doing these moves. So plays two
hundred and forty one pounds. But now when you leave
him out there for the run plays it don't look
at sexy. He just he doesn't have the he doesn't
have the bill to do it. So right now he's
playing a specific role for you. Defensively leave him there.
(40:37):
You're not turning this dude into an every down rusher.
Make him very specific to win and where you rush him.
Put him on the left side, put him on the
right side. But keep him in that wheelhouse between eighteen
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I think less than that because he's he was limited yesterday.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
With a knee.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I mean, yeh fifteen eighteen at the most. Just be
very specific with this guy. I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Just everything you said, you you.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
You know, I think he think he's comfortable in that
road roll or guys like, yeah, I'm this guy. I'm gonna,
you know, give me those snaps them all out.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
Or is he saxpayted bills like saxpened, keep me fresh
and give it up.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, if you keep me fresh.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
And I got my pressure rate number is up, my
sack number is up.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
That's how I get paid.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
Now I can go and be and be a martyr
and go get five million over there, eight million over there,
ten million over there.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
And when we just paid a guy that to come
in here.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, like do what Coley's doing. You know what I'm saying.
Go somewhere and be and be, hey, this is what
I am.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Wow, he looks so weird in that forty two Jerse.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
So I'm telling you, I know people want more of
James Houston.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I hear you. I get it.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
If you want to see the breakdown. Uh what's today?
Today's Wednesday? Yeah, for my Noball Better University segment over
our DLS, I did a wonderful breakdown I think I
did on James Houston in his past rushing setup moves.
Go check it out, man, it'll be out, It'll be
out lit on today.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Who is the Was it a safety we had a
few years back and he was kind of the same
thing you keep him at about twenty five snaps and
he was playing.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Big old tall dude. Yeah, big o'd tall dude.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
And then he would get outside of that twenty five.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
And not is he? Oh Patrick, Patrick Watkins.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
You know who I'm talking about, because he was really
good right in that window.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
And then DQ guy and brought him in here, gave
me he started a big safety package. The guy you're
talking about, that's when we started.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Wasn't that is he?
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Macuamum, No, no, are you talking about curse?
Speaker 7 (42:46):
Not curse curse? Was every down guy.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I don't remember who it was, but I remember we
talked about him on the show, and he was really
good in that bro.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
He was a special team player and what's you called it?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And then teams got a chance to figure him out,
and he wanted more money and they didn't pay him,
and then he went out on the free market.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
We heard from since to.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Figure that out, sir.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
That was curse, yeah, curse.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
He started the big safety.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, that was that was what to call him, straight jacket?
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah, But I thought there was somebody we had that
was he was more of every down guy. We had
a guy that was in the secondary that was kind
of in that where you slotted him in a certain
amount of plays and he was really good.
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The penal colony myth.
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policy in did so.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
In short, Louisiana's early history.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
Included some convict transport, but it was never officially designator
operated as a penal colony.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
That's what Cuba did to Miami.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
There you go, just to clear that up.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
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Speaker 3 (02:21):
How was defense?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
You're right, you're right, Carolina offense, You're right, you're right.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You guys ever have a former teammate play against you
and go off?
Speaker 7 (02:30):
No? No, no, I haven't, no, not even well.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
How you d how you feel about uh?
Speaker 7 (02:40):
How you feel about Rico?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
This week?
Speaker 8 (02:43):
Ready?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
He said, he's ready. He told everybody to buckle up.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
They know what's coming to stop. Man. This dude would
stare at somebody else all the time.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
And wave out yeah and you know what, and don't
leave his house but twice a year, Yeah, he got
that glass.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
You got to work out way they come to you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
What do I think about Rico?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Anything to be worried about this week?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
If you're the Cowboys defense, there's nothing to worry about
every week. You know what I'm saying, fair like you
haven't done enough on the football field to where people
you shouldn't be worried about somebody doing something to you.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's why I laughed.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Kenny Clark made a comment when they asked him about
what Rico said about buckling up like that, and he
was just you know, he made his comment. It was like,
you know, they ain't even play nobody like us.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And I was like he still thinking and green baby.
I was like, what I didn't I didn't know.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
I know, I'm just I'm asking like like I thought
it was first of all to me, it was a
two way silly comment, like even for Rico to say it,
it's like Rico, you you just got the tuba was healthy, healthy,
like you know what I'm saying, like you ain't. And
I granted be appreciative and happy of the two on
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the yard form that you did. It's a national footballer
to go for two hundred yards is an accomplishment. But
don't talk like you. They don't talk like you prime
Saquan or you on a role like Dereck Henry.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now you had a good game. Great.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I just thought it was silly both ways, for him
making the comment and then for Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
To be like, they ain't play nobody like us. I'm
like team inside of the ball. You played for a kiddie.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
So yes, to answer your question, this defense should be
worried about. It seems rico.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Can they seems like they're when they're good on at
one aspect, they're terrible with the other. They're either okay
at stopping the run and then they give up. Are
they just a bad defense and people are picking how
they want to attack them? Or are they Is it
one of those things where they can concentrate to shut
(04:56):
one thing down and then the other one they can't control,
Because it seems like they do pretty good in one
aspect of the game every game, and then.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
They get torched in the other one.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Like if you stop to run the pass game is
four hundred yards, if you hold them under three hundred
yards passing the run games one hundred and fifty two
hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, that's a sign of a bad defense. Okay, Like,
that's a sign of a bad defense.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
And because the opposite side of that is what you
have offensively, is that if you want to load the box,
be my guests, I'm gonna beat you in the head
over the top. If you want to drop two safeties back,
there be my guest. I'm gonna hand it off to
Javonte Williams. We're gonna beat you over the head four
hundred and fifty yards rushing.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right So like it's literally jack On Hyde.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
What the Cowboys have going on right now with how
their offenses, I can whoop you up anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I want to whoop you up more offensively and defensively.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
Teams are just picking and choosing how and when they
want to do to the Cowboys. Not to bring up
old tape, but you know, you go back and you
watch the Jets game. If feel could throw, like if
he just was a semi accurate thrower, there was I mean,
he had the Garrett Wilson touchdown that he missed on
one side. He had the other one where he could
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have ran.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
It was like a like a skinny post, a glance post.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
And when Kyrie Elom got beat and Wanya Thomas's way
inside and the passes like the it's ten yards like
he could just lay it anywhere in the vicinity. He
air melted ten yards over his head and he had
the dude the receiver had beat kyir and was going
in for like a skinny post. If he just puts
it anywhere five yards we can run into it on
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or whatever, it's a touchdown. So if a quarterback has
the ability to throw the ball, which this particular quarterback,
and he's my other little Tink Tink. I know I
called Deuce Tink tink, but this is my other this
is the other tink. Tank Bryce Young.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He a better quarterback than feels that this time or
how do you rate him?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
He is a boy man feels is the better athlete
by far, like not even close. I do think I
think little tank Tink might be a better processor of
the of at the quarterback position and a better thrower
at the quarterback position.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
So what does that mean for us as a Cowboys team.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Then, well, when you when you go when you look
at the Keluta Panthers offensively, you kind of like when
you when you go through the Rothter, you kind of say,
like there's some names on there, right, like you know
who Trooper Hubbard is.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Of course, you know who recal dollars.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Then you go, all right, Tynor Royal McMillan, a guy
that a lot of people wanted to be a Dallas
cowboy this year, but they jumped up there.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And the Carolina went and got him.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Then you go, okay, Hunter Ridfrow, a name that you recognized,
you know, a guy who his entire career has been
about the ability to run routes.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
Then you go over and you got Xavier La get
another first round wide receiver that they have there.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You look around, you go.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
You damn you know they got a nice cause they
got a nice little stable of wide receivers like pass catchers.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Tight End is not bad, and the offensive line is okay.
It's an okay offensive line. It's not It's not something
that we were looking at and being.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Like, oh well, but so what you're saying is the
quarterback is the issue.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I'm what I am saying is the quarterback has hasn't
hasn't had the ability to get under one offensive coordinator
without so many changes.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
And get comfortable in the system.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
He has been it's been a rotating door with offensive
coordinators and play callers and and teammates. It's been a
it's been a constant rotation. So he hasn't had a
chance to really settle in what is his stress, what
is his weakness is and then have that mesh right
like like what you see with.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Brian Schottheimer and Dak Prescott.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Now you see you see a cohesiveness between the two
because they've had time together, they've established a relationship, and
then there's a concept that comes along with that. He
just hasn't had that he needs that. You know, again,
he just got to the roll miller last year, Xavier
la Gett. He's off and on. You know, he didn't
had they had they had what's the other white receiver
(09:21):
that went back to Minnesota that runs Veal feeling he
had feeling a year ago and feeling wasn't feeling on
his prime. So like he's getting the weapons. It's it
needs to kind of still take time to jail and
to use your reference. For example, they is this squad
currently as it's uh formed, they're working through their preseason,
(09:47):
they're working through that first four or five game preseason
and now you know you saw a really good comeback.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, you saw a really good comeback in.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
In that Miami game where they were down seventeen to
nothing and then they mar stairway back in the second half.
But you know, tink Tinko do things like he fumbled
the ball. They did a little rpo and he's rolling
out and I don't even know how he did it,
but he's like the ball's in his hands and I
don't know if he's trying to like pump fake the defender.
He just he just throws them like he dropped the
ball into the ground. Fumble turnover. Then he had another
(10:18):
interception where he had Xavier Legett. He ran a deep,
deep dig route and he had him, he had him.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
He just arameiled it right over the top of his head.
Safety intercepted it.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
So like it's those level of plays that you see
from from Bryce Young that you go. But then you'll
see him roll out to his right and the defender
is closing in on him and he kind of like
pump fake steps back. He goes by and he throws
a laser shot to telor Roll McMillan on the sideline
for completion. You're like, okay, So it's like it's it's
(10:50):
it's jackuling high for him. He has a little bit
of game in him. You can throw the ball and
he still can throw the ball, but he is processing.
He has some some of the most ac and weird
processing moments.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You're looking your like, what did you see? Why would
you do that?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
And that's what that level of inconsistency with processing, turning
the ball over the roster being inconsistent, you know, musical chairs,
that line and receivers and all that kind of stuff
that leads to you being you know, the number one
or two pick in the draft because your team is
that bad.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
He is five feet ten inches tall. For those of
you that wondered.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Because I did.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Before we go to break Jesse, you had a VIP caller.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
You know, we don't normally do calls on Thursdays, but
I thought this one was special enough for us to
take the call this Thursday.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
And he is on the phone right now. If you
want to welcome into the show.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So our good friend from Kuwait most calling him.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
How you doing, brought it's up?
Speaker 9 (11:51):
Hey, I'm fine, I'm fine. Thank you for taking the call.
I won't belong, but I want to tell you guys,
you're not just into national show. You've just become multi
dimensional because you're helping cancer patients in Kuwait get well.
And so I really appreciate that. So now I just
(12:15):
want to update Nate on that trip. I showed the
clip to my office manager and she said, you're gonna go.
You're gonna ride with this guy all the way to
California and then to New York and you're going to
pay for his food. And I said yeah. She said,
(12:36):
I need a budget and she then she said, you're
going to get in a truck all the way to
New York. Oh wow? And so she said, no, you
might might as well. You might as well take the
motor home instead of riding in the truck. And so
(12:59):
we just might take the motor home Nate when it happens.
And then she said, uh, and you're gonna go pick
up Jesse from the from his porch. I said yeah.
She said no, we just fly him to New Jersey
and I'll pick him up from his porte. So I
(13:19):
really appreciate the gesture, appreciate the call, and I just
want to I hope that our Cowboys don't take Carolina
for granted this Sunday, because I watched the previews of
what they did to Miami. They're not just you know,
they're not just an easy team to tackle. But I
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appreciate the call. Thank you guys for what you do
and I hope you wish you all the best.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We appreciate the call more. Thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 9 (13:51):
Mo.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
You know that we love you here at hanging with
the boys, man, and uh, we want you to keep fighting.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Man.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
You're gonna beat this catcher battle. Brother.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
And because when you tell us something, you got to
do it. So you got to be canceled so that
we can. You can come to the States and come
get me off the porch. Don't leave me on the
porch again again.
Speaker 9 (14:10):
Yeah, I thought I'm not all right. No, appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
What before you go?
Speaker 6 (14:16):
We need a score, I know, because you won't call
it tomorrow, so you got to give us a score today.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
Oh wow. Thirty two to twenty seven cowboys nicety.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
To twenty seven. All right, Mo, we love you, Bobby.
Speaker 9 (14:28):
MO get well, Thank you, Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
I'd rather see you.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
See MOA is the only one stick stuck close to
You've been dogging the defense, you know. But there remember
last week, I mean everybody was right because they get
it was twenty two. Jessys sold everybody on the twenty
two move. So that's that's what happened nowt But so
you know he said twenty seven right.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Thirty two?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, so yeah, he's saying our defense when you get
chunked on and ran on the lit bit, better buckle
up because here he comes.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
I thought you was taking the show.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
I am wei sho.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
You did a good job the first eight minutes. I
was actually gonna look over there and say, you really
do it? It aren't you.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Oh. I won't be back doing tonight. Thank you. Leave
me on the poor thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
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All right, Chris, you got some technical difficulties if that pops.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Right up on me, so upset?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
All right back to it? Are we are we in
trouble in the secondary because we've already got a pretty
weak secondary. You got Donovan Wilson that left the game
and hasn't practiced, didn't practice yesterday.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Is that a cat starters already?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Is that kind of a one of those let's see
what we got could be a good thing. Getting the
younger players some reps because they hadn't really been killing
it in the at the safety position, or is this
one of those things where we're really gonna notice this
this weekend, or what if there was a better quarterback
on the other side, it would be a bigger deal.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
How do you feel about it.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Jessum, I mean, I think a lot of the Cowboy
fans are kind of getting what they been asking for.
Like they've been asking for more wan Ye more Marquise
Bell at that position. And you know, I for one,
we as a show, we're not wishing anyone get injured.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Things like that.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Sometimes opportunity presents itself through injury. So we'll see, we'll
see what they get with those two guys. I like Jane,
I like I like Marquise Bell or you know, he
you know, he was putting a position a year. It
was a couple of years ago he had to play
like that linebacker spot situation, and I just was so bad.
(19:01):
It was so and it was unfair, right it was
it was him being asked to do something that physically
he was incapable of doing.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Just sheer size.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
You're trying to play down, you know, as a star
type linebacker and you got to deal with two hundred
and eighty three hundred pounds dudes down in and down out.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Because they really liked him at safety and Nate, you
liked him a lot too.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yes, I love him a lot of safety.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, and then that you're right. They they kind of
threw him into that deal and it.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Was like they were they were depleted, and they were like, hey,
can you go play linebacker this this position in the
star position?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And are you asking her?
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Are you telling me? Yeah? It's like if you want
to start, and hey, yeah you want you.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Want a job?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Of course you go and do it.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
But they're both capable, like Mark keise Bell is capable,
money is capable.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
You know, not much starting experience for the two.
Speaker 13 (19:51):
And yeah, do you always think you're you're better than
the guy in front of you unless they guy in
front of you is, unless there's a noticeable difference, because.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes, you always think you're better than that.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I just need a shot, I just need to I
need this opportunity, or they need to play me the
right way, or I'm not getting a fair shape. You
always feel that way, right unless the guy above you
is a stud?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure, like you.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Know, like, oh yeah, I gotta find something else to
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
But yeah, if you feel like there is a close comparison,
you want to get in there and you want to
do the job. But in some cases guys come in
there and prove themselves that you know what, you know what,
you are better than him, and that's how you get jobs,
and that's how people get wally pipped. But sometimes you
realize you getting there and you go, oh, this water
is hot, right your mom used to tell you, you
(20:45):
know that, Yeah, touch the stove if you want to.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
You know, you don't believe fat me greasy. Then you
get in there and you.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Really realize that just really like that out here, it
ain't these it ain't It ain't going to look like
on the on the sideline when I come in.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Every once in a while, when.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
You're out there for the whole game, it tends to
feel and look different. So it'll be an opportunity and
to be under this new coaching staff, which I will
give credit to Shaddy. He's been very honest in the
part of the guys who are doing what we need
them to do in practice and showing the things when
they get in the games. I'm giving them more opportunities
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and so that part has been rather consistent, you know,
and he said yes in the press conference. You know,
guys don't lose their job, you know, starters don't lose
their job.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Due to injury.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
But those who come in and step up, you we
notice it and you will get more opportunities, you know
what I mean. Shanahaim wasn't here, SHATAHAIMI won here for that,
Like I laughed and joke that was like, yeah, he ain't.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
He ain't talking about CD Land no matter what y'all do,
and CD come back. See he gets his job back.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Right, So that part and as a player, you appreciate that, right.
You appreciate the fact that again if I'm backing ceedee
lamb up. As long as he has functioning limbs and
the lung and a heart, he's probably gonna play ahead
of me. But the other guys that were in close proximity.
(22:11):
If coach is saying that, if I keep doing because
you've had I've had coaches say that like hey, if
you do this, this and this, you know we're really
gonna look you're like win, you know what I mean,
Like what do I have to show you? But coach
Schottenheimer has been been true to that. You've seen that
with the you know what, even inserting Nate Thomas in there,
You've seen you know, other guys being benched, whether that's
(22:32):
Kyrie elam or Or or Trayvon Diggs. And so he's
given a lot of guys that opportunity to go in
and show themselves. You know, he put he put Mazi
on the bench first couple of games.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Then j J.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Toya didn't do what he had to do. So now
he's on the bench and Mazi's in there. So there
is that ability to go out there improve yourself when
gods are injured and he gives you a shot.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
I'm kind of interested to see what they do with Mingo.
He looks like he's about to be ready. He's not
a starter, obviously.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
But Mingo might give a chance. I think Mingo might
have injured his way out of a situation. And be
honest with you, because when everybody comes back healthy, think
think about that for a second.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
It's crowded. CD going back. We ain't taking reps away
from him.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Turpin's going back is.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Turpin has we got picks on the other side.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
So he's gonna get old, he gonna get now you've
put Turpin in this thing. He's doing wide receiver stuff now,
so he exists.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
In his own little bubble. You're gonna play him.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
And then now if you're talking about the ascension of
Ryan Fllinoy, if that, if that's working for you now,
because I'm already trying to find reps for him. So
now if he goes out and has another good game
against the Paths, I'm not saying have to have one
hundred and fourteen to fifteen yard game, but if you
go out there puts in another sixty five seventy yards. Okay,
(23:48):
Now he jumps in front of Tobert. So now it's
CD Pickings, Turpin, Flinoy, Tobert unless you get rid of Tobert.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Where does she?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
And the thing about it is one of them is
like a favorite DA spoke highly ony.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, so that helps.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Fornoy was in that same camp of Tobert when that
makes the call that he needs folks to come out
to the dockyard and throw.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Those are the dudes who he calls.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You know, Ced he might be in La in Miami
and George might be over here, they'll all come together.
But those who are like on call, on call, on
call for nooy Tobert.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
So, and maybe one of them situations where you know
when to talk about guys opening that window again is
I think Stephen Jones talked about it. It was like,
we we're waiting because if I open up the window,
I have three weeks to decide where this guy goes.
If this guy goes on the roster, somebody has to
(24:52):
come off the roster. So I'm either waiting in the
sense of an injury to happen to develop a ros
that's the spot, or you don't get that, you don't
get your window opened, and you just stay on IR
for the rest of the year.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
It happens that way sometime.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Since we're talking about wide receiver, and we talked a
little bit about this on the Defense yesterday, taking us
down a rabbit hole. But would you I know, he's
gonna cost a lot of money, He's probably gonna be
hear in that twenty six twenty eight million range. Would
you just try to lock Pickings up right now? Sign Javonte,
(25:31):
Sign Pickens, and then for the next two years you
got basically the same group of guys on offense that
you have now that's performing so well.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
I'm glad you said that, because this was a topic
that we brought up on my other show and it
revolved around Javante. There was a site that my boy
Jeff Kavanaugh use and it projects the open market of
what it would be for players heading into free agency
in twenty twenty six. Right now, playing Javonte Williams three
(26:02):
million dollars, Ye, a little over three million dollars somewhere
in that range, right, three three and a half million dollars.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
At the current pace. Now, this is projecting at.
Speaker 6 (26:12):
The current pace, fun site where you're looking at. If
he continues on this trajectory, he's ending the season somewhere
around twelve thirteen to fifteen.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Hundred yards, okay dollars?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
No no, no, but no, no, no, no, and somewhere around
tennis touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Right, you only got five, You got five and five games.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
So if again this is all projection, they're saying the
market for Javonte would be thirteen million dollars per year
in free agency.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
And he's young too, right, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Like, he's not an old back. He's got twenty five
good three four years left him.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
And what's different between a guy like he and a
guy like Rico, so to speak. And this is true
because the Cowboys even operate in this way. Rico was
an undrafted free agent. They treat those guys different. I
can tell you that from my own personal experience. Javonte
(27:17):
was a second round pick. Teams look at a guy
who is a second round pick as a guy who
has the high end qualities and traits and attributes that
can produce the level of what he's producing with now.
So they look at that different. They're willing, they're willing
to spend money on that guy differently. Well, we do
it here. We're talking about Jonathan Mingo. He was a
(27:37):
guy that the Cowboy said, we really liked in the
draft a couple of years ago. We just we couldn't
get up to get him that time. So he went
to Carolina. And you know Russ's history. But you asked
that question, what makes it very interesting to me? And
I said it, and some people didn't like that.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I said it.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
I said, but could the just openly unless you blow
the unless you knock the socks off you you knocked
the socks off David malu Getta mm hm, remember that name?
Oh yeah, remember that name? Who is George Picktt's agent.
(28:13):
Unless you knock the socks off him? Why wouldn't you
wait the free agency?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
He's gonna let him go?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Why wouldn't I Why wouldn't not let my client?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
No, unless you give me a number that I feel
like what we're going to ask for a free agency,
I'm not signing now. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm gonna. I'm
gonna tear right now. I'm also looking at to finish
somewhere around ten touchdowns. If I get ten touchdowns and
close to one thousand yards, I'm going outside. But does
(28:42):
the ascension or of Ryan Flinoy cost you, George Picktts. Now,
here's why I say that we know how this ownership
works if Ryan Flinoy continues to show that he's worthy
of having that type of attention. When Jerry comes in
(29:02):
there and they're trying to do the deal and they're
asking for thirty million, twenty nine million, he goes, well,
we got Ryan Flinoy. Why would I give you thirty
when we got Now I'll give you twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I get you nineteen.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
But I got I got McDonald's at home, right, I
got McDonald's at home.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
They talk about the pie, the pie, the pie, the pie,
the pie I got McDonald's at home.
Speaker 6 (29:29):
If floy and essentially essentially you kind of almost it
almost becomes a wash if you don't sign George Pickens
back because what did you send to get him a
third Well, when he goes to free agency where you're
gonna get a compick back, you're gonna get a third
compick back.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
So it's almost like a wash. Right, it's a rental.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
You're renting them for a year, right, So it's like,
do you want to see Flinoyd continue to grow and
ball out?
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Absolutely? It may cost you.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
But if you're but if you're upstairs, don't you look
at this stretch of games that they've been in and
go If something happens to CD and.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
We're in contention, like.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Would you rather have the drop off between CD and
Pickens or the drop off between CD and Flinoyd? Because
I don't think he could carry his team like Pickens could.
If you're in, if you're in a playoff run that
that would be my mentality. If I'm going in, let's
just go in. But that's your mentality, right, They've never
done that. They've done upstairs, right, And the same thing
(30:37):
goes for you, but they've never had the capital that
they have now, and I just wish they'd be.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Like the same thing that I think.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I think the same thing that goes along for Javonte, right,
like Javonte's stepped in and now if again, I'm just
trying to think as if a GM with think and
how I would approach it. When Javonte's representation comes in
and they say, you know, hey, we think we value you,
we want you to be a part of this team,
(31:05):
but we're somewhere around six million per seven million per
maybe I'm just throwing a number out there, and Javante's
crew goes, well, you ain't had a back like this
and some time, we're thinking more along the lines of
eleven twelve.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Then they go, well, it wasn't really you. It was
Clayton Adams. It was his system, offensive line, it was off.
It was a system that got you this pressure. So
we could we could pressure you.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Know, we can make another Javante right film off with
the next Javante.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
I'm not saying that he is. I'm saying that.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
That's the approach of that's the bargaining, that's the this
is how this thing works, and Javonte as he should
as they running back twenty five year old. If he
continues on this and he's twelve thirteen, fourteen fifty yards,
ten touchdowns, he should also go and test the market
and now see what's what's out there right, and it's
gonna look different than it did the last time he
(32:04):
was out there when he got released from the from
the from the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Because you look healthy.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
You look back to the guy that the Broncos drafted
in the second round all those years ago. It looks
different for Rico because they look at Rico and they go, eh,
you had a nice year, undrafted guy. There's there's something
about that undrafted guy that teams look at and they
don't value it. They don't give it the same. It's
almost like it's a one off. Like you're you're supposed
to be in the league, but we ain't paying you
(32:31):
start the money, you know what I'm saying, Like we.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Ain't, we ain't.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
You're an undrafted guy like you ain't doing this for
three seasons. They had you around there, you was getting
bounced around. They put Pollard in front of you, put Zeke,
they bought old Zeke back was giving him more.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Reption in front of you.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
So they look at that guy like that, but they
look at a second round pick differently.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, I just look at it as you have an
opportunity to have this almost the exact same squad.
Speaker 7 (32:56):
For two or three years.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
If you lock a couple of guys up, you got
a young offensive line, you got some nice backup pieces,
you got a quarterback that's gonna be not playing football
like this. Who knows maybe where they are now, maybe
ten more years, but he's in his prime the next
two or three years. Why not solidify that and then
and then go get the defense to help you out
(33:19):
on that side of the ball. And you got this
piece in place for two or three years just like
it is.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
And then Joey also says, but I got those picks, right,
Why pay the guy is high price?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Why pay the running back ten million?
Speaker 5 (33:33):
Likes to gamble?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
When I got these.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
Picks, let me go, let me go roll the dice blue.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
I got phil my foot and I got these picks.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Just as a fan, though, I'm like, don't make me guess,
just let me go in the next year, knowing what
I have, like, just lock them.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
Up, let me know. What I got.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Let me know, I'm good, Don't make me try to
figure it out the four Like we are now five
six games in and we're still like, what do we
got every year? All right, let's take our last break
when we come back. More football Hanging with the Boys.
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All right, we wanna go to the end of it.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Chris, I mean, Kurt Well.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
I had one follow up question you guys were talking about,
do you guys always think they're better than guy in
front of them? And we're seeing this kind of a
little bit right now where James Houston has been your
best pass rusher, but he's only getting like twenty five
percent of the snap.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
And that's that's all you needs.
Speaker 9 (37:15):
That shit.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I know people, I know that y'all want James S.
Houston full time.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
He is a hired assassin, Like, don't start trying to
take this young man in the deep waters. Keep him
anywhere from eighteen to twenty five.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Snaps like and I'm talking about more like eighteen to
twenty two.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Make it very, very very specific. When he's a small dude,
two hundred and forty one pounds. He's a small dude.
And then it keeps the it keeps the offensive line.
Guessing I forgot that you say that. I did a
breakdown this morning on James Houston and his pass rush.
How he sets his pass rush up and his past
moves up and you know he lines up in that
(37:58):
wide nine, right, we talk about that wide nine. He's
lined up out there. He's way out there. Looks like
he damn there in the slot, you know what I mean.
Look like he's playing slot calling. He's so far away
from the line. But what it does is he he
liked the guy who was here before him. Their game
is predicated on speed and then turning speed to power
and then turning speed to power to a move right.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And so how he sets you up is that when.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
He gets in this wide nine, the left tackle understands
and know I got to kick out way out.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
There, right, So my first kick is one of those.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
It's a big kickout, and then it's a it's a
kickout and then shuffle, shuffle, shuffle to get out there. Well,
what happens is when I'm cutting, when he's coming off
with that speed and that tackle is kicking out there
the wide nine.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Speed rush speed. When I say speed to power, go
from speed to a bull rush right down the middle
of him. Is I want to catch you in a kickstep.
Speaker 6 (38:56):
I want to because if you get out there and
you get set, well, then three twenty five two forty,
when you grab.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Me an anchor down we dancing. It's a different dance.
It ain't. It ain't a smooth dance. It's a dominating dance.
I got you now.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
But if I catch you where that leg is anywhere
from that that leg is anywhere from being firmly, that
outside leg is planted anywhere firmly.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Than in the ground.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
Now I can walk you back into the quarterback because
I took the power away from you.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Because you now you back on your heels.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
Now ends up happening If I do that once to you,
Now you kick outside even quicker to get set well
guess what, I'm up and under right, So now up
and under You're like, damn, he got me. He got
me with the bull, he got me with the This
they called next one is the ghost, right he comes
off that. I'm out there and when I go to
punch Von Miller was you go watch von Miller tape.
(39:53):
It's called the ghost because he'll get right there to
you and he'll rip that shoulder and he'll now you
see me, and then you go punch and he up
under you. Now you don't ghost. So now I don't
hit you with the speed the power. I've hit you
with the up and under. I've hit you with the ghosts.
And then now come with the speed again and I
dwight free of you, chop you down, spin off of
(40:14):
you back inside. Go watch the Jets tape. It's on
there that he was doing these moves. So plays two
hundred and forty one pounds. But now when you leave
him out there for the run plays it don't look
at sexy. He just he doesn't have the he doesn't
have the bill to do it. So right now he's
playing a specific role for you. Defensively leave him there.
(40:37):
You're not turning this dude into an every down rusher.
Make him very specific to win and where you rush him.
Put him on the left side, put him on the
right side. But keep him in that wheelhouse between eighteen
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
I think less than that because he's he was limited yesterday.
Speaker 7 (40:59):
With a knee.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
I mean, yeh fifteen eighteen at the most. Just be
very specific with this guy. I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Just everything you said, you you.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
You know, I think he think he's comfortable in that
road roll or guys like, yeah, I'm this guy. I'm gonna,
you know, give me those snaps them all out.
Speaker 6 (41:20):
Or is he saxpayted bills like saxpened, keep me fresh
and give it up.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, if you keep me fresh.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
And I got my pressure rate number is up, my
sack number is up.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
That's how I get paid.
Speaker 6 (41:34):
Now I can go and be and be a martyr
and go get five million over there, eight million over there,
ten million over there.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
And when we just paid a guy that to come
in here.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, like do what Coley's doing. You know what I'm saying.
Go somewhere and be and be, hey, this is what
I am.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Wow, he looks so weird in that forty two Jerse.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
So I'm telling you, I know people want more of
James Houston.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I hear you. I get it.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
If you want to see the breakdown. Uh what's today?
Today's Wednesday? Yeah, for my Noball Better University segment over
our DLS, I did a wonderful breakdown I think I
did on James Houston in his past rushing setup moves.
Go check it out, man, it'll be out, It'll be
out lit on today.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Who is the Was it a safety we had a
few years back and he was kind of the same
thing you keep him at about twenty five snaps and
he was playing.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Big old tall dude. Yeah, big o'd tall dude.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
And then he would get outside of that twenty five.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
And not is he? Oh Patrick, Patrick Watkins.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
You know who I'm talking about, because he was really
good right in that window.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
And then DQ guy and brought him in here, gave
me he started a big safety package. The guy you're
talking about, that's when we started.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Wasn't that is he?
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Macuamum, No, no, are you talking about curse?
Speaker 7 (42:46):
Not curse curse? Was every down guy.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I don't remember who it was, but I remember we
talked about him on the show, and he was really
good in that bro.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
He was a special team player and what's you called it?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And then teams got a chance to figure him out,
and he wanted more money and they didn't pay him,
and then he went out on the free market.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
We heard from since to.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
Figure that out, sir.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
That was curse, yeah, curse.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
He started the big safety.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
Yeah, that was that was what to call him, straight jacket?
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah, But I thought there was somebody we had that
was he was more of every down guy. We had
a guy that was in the secondary that was kind
of in that where you slotted him in a certain
amount of plays and he was really good.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
All right, I want to clear something up so we.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Don't get removed from YouTube for bad information.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
The penal colony myth.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
There was a brief period in the seventeenth twenties when
France's Campaigny Day Indies, the company running Louisiana at the time,
sent some convicts, vagrants, and prostitutes to Louisiana to boost population.
These deportations were small in scale and short lived, more
like a social experiment than a formal people France quickly
(43:55):
realized Louisiana wasn't well suited for forced colonization, and the
policy in did so.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
In short, Louisiana's early history.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
Included some convict transport, but it was never officially designator
operated as a penal colony.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
That's what Cuba did to Miami.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
There you go, just to clear that up.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
So all right, fellas, good stuff tomorrow, predictions, phone calls
and other stuff.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Don't forget our call of y'all.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
We love you, Love you, mo Chris.
Speaker 5 (44:28):
Thanks for keeping us on the air.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
No, thanks for coming us for doing the computer hold
on Jesson moyebo and I wanted to see my computer.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
There you go, Josh, we'll be back.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
As a company. Coubley right there.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
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Speaker 3 (44:57):
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