March 14, 2024 • 48 mins
The Hangin’ crew discuss the Cowboys’ free agency moves so far, if fans can expect an immediate impact from new LB Eric Kendricks, and how the offensive line may look going into training camp.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys blowing out of
the backfield, exploding down the sidelines. This he is Hanging
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Holly and Shannon Grosso.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Thursday, nine eight m.
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And you are looking live kind of at a very
dark and dismals.
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I about to say it's coming, it's on the way.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, yeah, very dark and dismal. Toastedos cherryes Hippause outside
forty Center at the start in Frisco, Texas.
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Where it is sixty nine. Yeah, the highest eighty, the
low is sixty five.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
That is Nate.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
You are sharing it in the back with the homies.
It's Chris being keepings live. My boy is not here today,
but that's right. I'm gonna hold it down for him.
I am Zadi Holly. Together we make Hanging with the
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Us. When we speed.
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Each and every day by wing stop work, Flavor gets.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Its wee and you can tell spring break isn't full
of back up here.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
At the Star.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So, yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Thank you, Thank you squad in the back for helping
us out with that.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Very appreciate you, very important part of the show. So
the team got it. I'm just seventh grade, isn't here.
I got a text, okay three days ago, two days ago.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Maybe we should go all in as far as show
this week, Like the Cowboys just sit there in silace
for forty five minutes, I'm not gonna call it day.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well, we can't do that now because they actually signed
a couple of people, a couple a deep snapper and
a linebacker, which we need, we need, and I don't
know much about this guy. So I'm going to lean
on you guys to tell me. Whether it's a very
quick conversation, whether it's a long conversation. But I tell
you what this show today is about. Positivity.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
This show is.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
About It's been a lot of aggression happened here in
thew lately.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Our fans are not happy, and rightfully so, because we
were told we're going and they listen, if you don't
live around here, they have beat this in the crowd.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I don't even want.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
To talk about it, but I feel like we have
to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You know, we were told we're all in, and look
that can be we said on the show when it happened,
that can mean so many things.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Your definition, right, their definition are not the same definition exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I think as a fan, your definition is we're
going to make free agency moves, We're going to trade
up in the draft.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We're going to go get some marquee players.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
These things we haven't done since Brandon Carr, however long
ago that was, and there has been crickets and you know,
and look, you should expect that. That's what they do
around here, and look, that's their business. That's the way
they handle the off season. Has it worked. I guess
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you could look at that and say.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Thirty six wins in three years.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
They have a hell of a team on paper, Like
it's the players. They can only do what the players
do on the field, right. They have put the team together,
and I think they have done a great job putting
the team together, so that, in my opinion, has worked.
The hard part is when you hear all in and
you get your expectations up, and what really hurts is
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when you look at the division and you hear all
these big names flying around. You got sa Quon staying
in the division behind a hell of offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now, like that's.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Gonna be really interesting, which Swift wasn't no slouch, right,
And then you got the commanders making move after move
after move, and then you know, here's the cowboys and
the giants not doing a whole lot, and like now
it's like it's just you know, and then you get
on social media and they're just getting killed right, like
it's it's actually kind of hilarious.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
If you take your if.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You take your heart out of it, it's it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But so that's my take.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I usually don't talk this much, but you know, Kurt's
not here today, so I had to pick up the
slack because you know he usually rambles for a while,
so I had to had to get my shots in.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
He said six words, So you said six words. You've
eaten up your allotment for kurtin.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
So Jesse, Uh, what's been happening?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Nati told me he's like, I'm out, I'm out, no
man life.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But here's the thing, and and and for cowboy fans
and for cowboys onlookers or whatever it is, we.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Forewarned you and.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
While while mister Jones, while Jerry Jones and Company, they
are the best marketers in the business by far, by.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Far, there's not second place is not even close.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
It's not even close. And that star.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
They have said this for a long time, and different variations.
This year, it just so happens to be the word.
The words, the word salad, the word is all in.
And when we took that coming off what happened against
Green Bay and the playoffs, and we assumed, and you
know what they say about assuming and me, okay, And
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this is the way that they do business. This is
the way they do business for a long time. So
to expect something different is your fault. It's not their fault.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's not. It's not.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
It's your fault for expecting you to be wrong when
you're not.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Like it is your fault to see that is who
is their fault.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The fans fault, cowboys.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
No no, no, no, no's about the fans, because you allow yourself
to be fooled every single year. No difference has that
has has come about in the way that they operate.
To their credit. Again, we sometimes have to take a
step back and take off your fan.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Hat just for a moment.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
If you can't hard to do, it's hard to do,
and put on your business hat. Put on if you
sat in the seat of Jerry Jones, if you set
in the seat of Stephen Jones, I know, what's a
difficult thing to do. But I wish I wish Kurt
was here. I would tell you to go look up
what was fan attendance for the last twenty years. I
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think the Cowboys have nineteen of them?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yepst intended games, most.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Most fans attended games.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Go look at watch games.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Go look at the hundred watch the most viewed TV
shows or Evince and TV right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Just TV nice for and tv TV.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yes, probably ninety of them are football and out of
the ninety the top five, three of them are.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Cowboys and haven't won the Super Bowl in thirty years.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Go look at the merchandise.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Go look at the fact that they made one billion
dollars and what they were able to do in everything
that happened at at and T Stadium. I got twelve
is last year, the year before that, and the year
before that. For all intensive purposes, as I'm saying that, right,
intensive purposes whatever, for all whatever business is booming, right,
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business is booming. So why would I change what I do.
I am a businessman. I'm a businessman. And the greatest
gift that Jerry and Steven and Charlotte and Miss gen
and all of them have is my name is.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
On the checks. They can smell fresh cash. That was great, great, trump.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Great, that was perfect.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I was waiting for.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That was when the kids show up. He actually he's like, Daddy,
gotta word, watch this.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Push it.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But but.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
This is.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
The business, ladies and gentlemen. I know, I know, I
know that you do not like it.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But at the end of the day when they go
sit down with the accountants and they go look at
the books, business, this is my camera. Business is booming
for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Period. And so I'm not going to change my game.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And the ninth inning when every time we get to
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year, I'm willing. I'm
in the green. I'm not in I'm not even close
to the red. I ain't even in the black. I'm
in the green, green, green, green. And that's the name
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of the game. When you are able to digest that fact,
when you're able to take into the fact that it's
about being able to have my bottom dollar be top
dog dollar. I think you'll be able to sit and
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live with what is happening. I'm not changing my game
when I'm when I'm worth, when my franchise is the
most valuable franchise in any sport on any corner of
the continent, and I don't have to produce Super Bowls.
That's the nature of the Beasts, So none of this
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is surprising. They don't make moves on day one or
day two. They shop in areas, they draft, they develop,
and granted, give them some credit, give them some credit.
I feel how you feel, and I'm not here because
I'm not here to take size or whatever it is,
but feel how you feel.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
On paper, it's work.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
They put a damn good roster out there. Yeah, on paper,
their offense is tops in the league. Defensively, they lead
in certain categories sacks or turnovers. They produce enough to
get you to watch, to purchase tickets, and to come
along for the ride. Now, it may come to a flaming, screeching,
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halting crash year in and year out, but damn it,
buckle up, this is what it is.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So the moment.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
The moment, the moment you the moment you're able to
sit with that and stop thinking that they think how
you think. The moment you're the moment, you'll be better.
You have to come to a point in time when
you just have to I have a saying, like in
my life is that I love people for who they are.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
If if you're a person who I know is consistently.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Lying, wow, wow.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
No, I'm just saying I love you, but I know
you're a liar. But if I believe you, it's not
your fault. It's my fault because I know you're a liar.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Why are you trying to connect this?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm not I'm not so happened to come out first.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
If you are a person that if you're a person
that's consistently.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Late, right, okay, good good.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
If you're a person that's consistently late.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
A couple of days while the draft is look at
a couple of days, why free agency? If you're a person,
if you're a person that's consistent the Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
Hey beyond time, Chris, you back there, you're working to day.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Look, he tried to show the kids he actually does something.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You hear your ten dollars to day.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
But if you're a person that's consistently late, I love you,
but if.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I expect you to be to be on time, it's not.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Your fault, it's my fault. You've shown me exactly who
you are.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And if you choose to not associate with that person
because of those habits, that's your decisions decision, and you
can do that.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
But if you're going to stick around.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Then you got what you got got to be acceptable.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Same thing with this team and until you have enough
and you go, I'm not doing it. I'm I'm trading
my loyal team for another team and I'm going over here,
which obviously they sell out every game. The fan base
has not done. You keep coming back, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You said it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You you you, you said it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You do say things that are right, and you do
have wisdom on this show, and I appreciate you contributing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You know, even though people don't want to hear it
a lot of times. You said it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
That the week that he said we're all in, you said,
now what does that mean?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
There? You go, well, that tb D.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Right now, when we get to July and we're in
training camp and we're still you know, we may still
be asking that question, Okay, when do we find out?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Well, no, you won't be asking that question.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
You'll be talking about how great the guys that we
thank you, and.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
What will happen.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
We'll get to auction art and then the social media
team they'll show they'll they'll do his clip and the
cars will be back to They'll be backed up back.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Have a couple of clips from.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
The sideline and everybody be retweeting them and like, oh
my god, look at this.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We will McLay did it again. We were just yes,
I know, I know.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Man, I can't show you all some of these pictures
I got during the week of who's gonna be our starting?
Speaker 6 (14:21):
What's wrong?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Picture?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
What I got from some of my guys of who's
going to be the start and running back and the
little fellow there.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, our show change may not be politically correct.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Let's talk about that when we come back. Let's talk
about you know what.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Do we Tony Polin is with the Titans. They said
he's a notable edition on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
We'll talk about Eric Caie a little bit. I think
this is a good sign. I think this is a
good signing. I think it's a great, great signing. I mean,
I don't know about.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
The guy's a machine. Great.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Great, you ask me one question. Okay, does he get injured?
You say no, no, he answered a great So.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
We have a reliable, reliable line.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
It's been a while, yes, sir, all.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Right, he'll get here.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We just hey, well, curse out here, curse out here.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So he's not state fits. So, by the way, Nate,
good job. You escape the first segment without contributing.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
This job. You call the cowboys liar.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
They always I didn't, I didn't, I didn't not so
many words.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Yeah, gread examples.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yes, all right, we will be right back and we'll
talk more.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We'll give you this is this is the show of
sunshine and hope and in brightness today.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Now, Chris, pull that outside picture up? What the what
the gloom? Put the pull that picture up.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's what we are the plaza for the plaza, not
today for the plaza.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
That's the way the fans feel a little there. You go,
look how dark?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's not really that dark. It's dark, but it's not.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
That camera makes it look super. Yeah, it's on an
auto iris so that the monitor there.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
All right, Well, we'll be right back to talk more.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
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Speaker 6 (18:41):
Wow. Yeah, we're not consistent. Kurt's not here. I won't
be here you miss Jesse wasn't here a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm not gonna be here a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I mean, thank you, I'm always here.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, you don't always bring it. Sometimes bringing it today
you're showing out for the kids.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I like the shows for the kids today. About that, Yeah, man,
what kids?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Not your kids? Not your kids? Not your kids.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Sure, I'll tell you what, man.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I went to a local restaurant that has video games
here in the Frisco area down the street last.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Night, Santoni to come out and talk to you.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Do I guess what I didn't hear you finish?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And I go there a lot on Wednesdays because they
have half priced games, so you know, and I'm cheap.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We went last night. I mean it was it was
a zoo.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You forgot it was spring break?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
And we went and it was like you couldn't even
there were like people waiting in line to play games.
I was like, so, if you've never been in this
area on spring break people take off work when their kids.
Is that a national thing or is that just a
local thing when I was when I was a kid,
you just got turned loose and you just went and played.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Time's different. You're fifty two, I know, thanks for you
know what I mean, Like forty years ago it was okay.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I just still don't realize I'm that old.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, it's so different, man, Like you got to understand,
like there was I mean, this is not a joke,
but you grew up in the trailer parks.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, right for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
This is see see see I really did. He really did.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I never did. I never lived in a trailer to
be funny.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Of that, because what I'm about to say is, of
course that comes off to be funny, but like that's
the environment that you grew up in. But we grew
up in a time where you had you had the village.
So even though your mother, your father wasn't home, Miss
Shirley next door or you know, mister Melvin down the block,
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they watched out for the kids in the community, and
you knew the boundaries you knew, Hey, I can't go
past this block. This is my parameter. All the kids
knew that in the neighborhood. So it was like even
when your mother, your father, whoever was your was your guardian,
wasn't there. You always had the community that was looking
out for the kids.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
We don't have that anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
No, And you didn't have a cell phone. So when
you don't turn loose in the in the neighborhood, you
were loose until dark and you you drank from a
water hose. I'm saying you were lucky if you got
to you know.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
And if you acted up, Miss Shirley could grab you,
buy a shirt and be like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Like, here's a sandwich, here's half of here's some pimento
cheese and some bread.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, I know your mother working over time. You know
what I'm saying. I know I know your mother at
the job.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know what I'm saying. I just came from downtown.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
She know she working, She working the double us spring
break And that's how that's they don't have that this day.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You know you don't. You don't have that.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Man so different, you don't have that.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You don't you know, you don't you know?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Like I said, back then, a pack of hot dogs
cost you less than a dollar, right, so it wasn't
nothing for your mom to put hot dogs, boil a
couple of hot dogs, and here, y'all here, get out
of here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Then they changed the name of Glizzies and now they
all fancy and costs eight bucks a pat geez.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So anyway, all right, so spring.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Break talking, enough of that, Okay, back to it.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
What let's talk Eric Hendrick. Let's just come. Let's address that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Tell me about him because I don't know a lot
about him. What are we getting?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
So the first thing that you're getting, you're getting a
zim guy, right, Zim's comes in. He's a new deferensive coordinator.
He's implementing his system and this is not uncommon in
any sport.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
How old is it?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
How does Hendrick thirty two? Okay, he'll be thirty two
during the season. Has he been with Minnesota's whole career?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Now ers last year, the Chargers last year?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
He got the Chargers last year. But he's been with
Minnesota seven years. But he's a zim guy, right? His
system is he learned football under Zim. So anytime you
see coaches, new coaches come in, I mean, hell, look
at dan Quinton in Washington, right. He's bringing a bunch
of guys that have come that know his style and
this plays well. This is the OG move, this is
the OG that comes into the locker room, and he's
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able to be an extension of the coaches or the
coordinator's voice. He comes in and says, hey, guys, like
you know, on this particular play, we coach want this,
or we should do this. And because he's been around
Zen long enough, he knows how to come in and
take some of these younger guys and even some of
the veteran guys under the wing and go, here's what
we need to be doing in this defense in order
(23:20):
to be successful.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So question on that because there was a lot of
talk when Zim came in about him identifying with these
younger generation of players. When you bring a guy in
like that that understands how he coaches, that's been around him,
that these other guys, younger guys may not be used
to his style, does that help him translate, Hey, this
is what coach is really saying. He didn't really mean
(23:42):
it like that he he's just old school and he's
a hard ass.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
One hundred percent. Like this is the old G voice.
This is the o G voice in the locker room
that is able to translate a lot of times, maybe
some of the aggression that Zim may coach with and
kind of like, hey, I know y'all may not be
used to that, but he don't really mean nothing by that.
Like he's just intense on the practice field. But here
are the details that we need to really lock in
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and hone in on. But the thing about Kendrick, he's
not a guy who's he doesn't get hurt, right, So
we're not bringing in No, we're not bringing in a
hurt guy. And for his age and what he's always
been about. I mean, he was the second leading tackler
last year for the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
He tackles, he is going to tackle.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He was going to see that guy that we've been
talking about on the show that you need a guy
that a dude hits somebody and drops him, right.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I don't know if he's I don't know if he's
the hammer, Like I don't think he's like a hammer.
He's a tackling machine. Like he's going to be able
to He's going to.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
If he played for us last year, he led our
team in tackles.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
He had one hundred and seventeen tackles last year.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Wow, yeah, I mean we had safeties playing linebacker.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
But yes, Like here's the thing at thirty two, he's
the best linebacker we have on our team.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
For those that are considered linebackers. If you want to
take Mike, I don't know what you want to put
high you.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Want to put Micah, but he's he's better than even
if Laydon Van Derush is in the mix. He's better
than all of those. He can diagnose, he can now
the covers part thirty two a little bit long in
the two if he may not be able to cover
as good. But sideline a sideline and recognition, and I
think that is key is being able to understand what
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am I looking at. I've seen this formation. I understand
my keys when Nate you can talk about it, when
that guard pulls, or when that tackle blocks down, or
when that center is the lead like all these different things.
The key that the linebacker can able to identify is
and this is one of the things that is going
to be critical that we didn't have last year because honestly,
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guys like Marquis Belt just didn't understand it, just didn't
know run fits run fits. I have to know when
I'm the hammer. I have to know when I'm the scraper.
I have to know where my where's my help? Because
if my help is backside, then guess what I can't do.
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I can't get blocked backside. I gotta get over the
top and send it back to my pursuit.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Sometimes you have to know what is my run fit.
I just can't run up there just to run up
there because if my help is to my left, but
I get blocked to the left, and guess what the
running back cuts the opposite ways. Two guys in one hole,
we're not making a tackle until it's eight, ten, twelve
yards on the field.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
I haven't seen that this year.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
So the run fits is going to be so critical
for a linebacker to understand where am I supposed to
fit in this play?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
That that way?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Now my my will on my sam that linebackers that
they're able to free flow and make the tackle. So
I think I think with Eric Kendrick, you get an OG,
you get a VET, you get someone who understands what
the hell they're looking at, that can make thee that
can make the calls. You have that guy in the middle,
baring any injury, You give him an opportunity, and now
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you let overshown continue to develop under the tutelage of
an og like Eric Kendrick, and give them little nuggets,
give a little Hey, young fellow looking at this, Hey
young fellow, you know what I'm saying. Here's how you study,
here's what you need to watch. And Eric's been around
long enough where he's seen so many different offenses that
he's able to identify certain things and give the clues
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and the keys to the guys around him. So I
think it's a really good signing for the Cowboys. It
isn't a signing that's gonna, you know, be here for
the next three, four, five years, but it is one
that can make a significant impact right away, barring any
any setbacks as far as injury.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Give me somebody that's healthy, that can tackle, that knows
where they're.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Supposed to be and when they're supposed to be a
Derrick Hendrick.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I'll take some a couple of bone coverages.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, he's a ballplayer, he's a ballplayer. Good player.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I feel better about it.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
He had six pass defenses last year, so okay, which would.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Be like third on our team.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wow, all right, you made me feel better, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah, good player. No, no, the Cowboys got a good
really good football player, really good football player. He'll be
an impact.
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Speaker 6 (28:13):
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All Right, fifteen minutes left. Nate have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Gotta get you involved before we before we leave. You
tried to, you try, you almost escape, you almost escape.
Offensive line. What are we gonna do because we've already
had what we would consider an average offensive line this year?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Right, you needed help.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You had a really good running back that's gone now,
So I don't know what you're gonna do there behind
it at let's say an average offensive line.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Now, your center has left. Your left tackle is a
free agent.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That sounds like from all the reports that he's not
probably not coming back, but no one scooped him up yet.
So you could move your left guard out to tackle,
but he's already got a problem grabbing onto people.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
If you put him in space, that could become.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
A bigger problem.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, So your two most important positions that we talked
about last week, your center, your left tackle or probably gone.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
One's gone.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
One's probably gone.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
You're not getting any younger across the offensive line, and
then the run game is gone at least is the
way we knew it.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
What draft of center?
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, well first round, you gotta get a you gotta
get a bulldog center. You you I just as much
as people brag on left tackles, and yes they are
something special to have. But if you got a center,
if you got and I know this reaching like that
kid that played in Philadelphia for eighty five years and Kelsey,
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you can just find.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
You one of those. How hard is it to find
a center like that? Very, very hard. Yeah, because we.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Uh, it's just some good centers around the league, but
it seemed like they're not lasting long. They'll come in
and they'll flash for four or five, six years, and
about eight years they're gone.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
But Kelsey is that exception man.
Speaker 12 (32:48):
He was.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
He was that exception.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
He was.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
He was.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
He was nice. What's the kid that got the disease
for us?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
That retire by Travis Frederickdick That right there was one
of the biggest law and I try to tell people
that said, yeah, that's a loss. Even with his diminished skills.
After he went through the disease and came back, even
with his diminished skills, he was better than sixty to
seven percent of the centers in the league. And we
haven't replaced that guy. We haven't replaced him, and now
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we've lost our center.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Be oddish. Uh, he yeah, he was to me, he
was above average guy.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
The Commanders think he's more valuable than the Cowboys do.
So we have to replace him. Who were replacing with Well,
we'll see are you worried? Are you are you worried?
Are we good?
Speaker 7 (33:38):
I know we're not good. No, we'll we're far from good.
Because now you don't have a left tackle. You don't
have a center. Those are two major pieces.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
And yeah, yeah that question Mark, Yeah, that's a big question.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Would you guys, would you guys bring back Tyran?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I know he's had the health issues. I know he's
up there, but right now the options I.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Will have a price, but tyrun as a swing tackle.
You either you either take it you don't. Yeah, and
that's what I think. That's what they offered him. Like,
here's your money, man.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
You know, say what it is? What do you do?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Because I mean, you got so many holes on the
offensive line, you got you need a defensive stop gap, guy,
you need a lineback. Well, does this take care of
your linebacker worries in the draft by signing Kendrick or
you still need to go get one?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Were stilled because you don't have any depth, right, you don't.
You don't really have any depth, you know. Nah, there's
not enough depth in the lineback because we.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Don't have a linebacker. We don't besides the sign of kindreds.
To be honest, we don't have a linebacker. Bail is
not a line But I don't care what you say.
This kid is a safety that need to be getting
great valuable time at a safety. This I'm telling you
we sat here it started. Ary Church was the first one.
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He just open it up.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
And this kid here and I'm not saying a kid
got jes he he latched onto it.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
And from that point I'm sitting over here between the
two shows, sat Lord, please Florida and m please.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Get this kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I didn't want to say nothing.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
So thanks to Jesse, thanks to Church, and Green Bay
said hey we're running at him.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
So we didn't have a linebacker. Now we have a linebacker.
Will we get depth? We need up? We need offensive lineman.
We need offensive lineman. How we get them? Do they
draft one?
Speaker 5 (35:31):
And this is the frustrating part when you talk about
the free agency, because is you put so much pressure
now on Will McLay and the scouts to hit on
every single pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And think about it.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now, you need what two position two maybe three positions
at offensive line. You need a defensive lineman, you need
a linebacker. You probably need to get a receiver at
some point. You probably you got to get a running
back somewhere, like I mean, that's seven.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You don't have to be you don't have it. You know,
you don't have that like it. And again, anybody that
you get in the fifth, sixth, seventh round.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
That ain't guaranteed, that mean hell, first round pick saying
guaranteed here, we know, we know, second round pick saying
guaranteed here.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
So that puts so much pressure on your football team.
And I think, and I get it.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I know why the fans are upset because you look
at it and you're saying, dude, we got holds of
field and you right now, the Cowboys can't feel the
hole they need to feel because of the.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Dak Prescott contract. It's holding them up.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
What's what's the hold up with that?
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, you don't have the money to spend because if
you go into if you go into this year, I mean,
his cap hit is so large that there isn't enough
pot to go around. So the best thing that you
can do is to reduce the cap hit stream, you know,
put the new money on top of it, and now make.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
His make his almost like his base salary, almost like
a bubble payment on a it's.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
A credit credit to the end.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Push it to the end. Say the same thing with
CD LAMB. Push those things to the end.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
We'll deal with it when the money gets bigger.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
It's a credit card. It's the credit card, right, you know.
And then eventually you have to you have to, you know,
you have to come home and pay that pay that bill.
But you can't make any moves in doing that. And
this is this is the complaint from the fans. It's
like where you're asking them now to hit on it,
like not just hey, we need a you need a
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draft a good guy. We need a draft of good
guy and he needs to be an impact player today.
Whether that's a tackle, whether that's a center, got to start,
whether that's a lineback, They got to start. And there
is no room for them not to be average or
above out the gates. And that's a tough, tall task
to go. Hey, rookie left tackle, well, no, we took
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you in the first round, but I need you to
be I need you to be Hall of Fame level
for us to be successful. Hey, center that you've never seen.
These guys are gonna stand in front of you before.
I need you to be impact level right now. Linebacker, defensive,
but whatever it is, so you you you have some
key spots that you need to fill. And it's like
the urgency to fill those spots is not met, and
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then it leaves you to go into the draft and say,
we gotta go, perfect, we gotta, we gotta go.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
You miss this, you can't miss I mean, you missed
a lot last year.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
So there and then and then you found yourself where
and you find yourself at Dollar General trying to get
players to hit right, you're trying to you're trying to
find players that are gonna give you some value at
Dollar General.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Now, we know some of that stuff will work temporarily,
but overall, when you need it to work the most.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Does every team have cap Hell problems or is it yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Or is it just we just we just hear about
it so.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Much because Saints man wed it was in terrible position
a couple of weeks ago, but they started cutting players.
They gotta they don't have full complimentary, complimentary of players.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
The Broncos, and they saw what they did with the kid.
Let the kid get off to the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
You know, it's to want somebody to be eighty five
million dollars mad at me, you know, don't like me, like,
don't like me eighty five million dollars worth.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
That's a lot of hate right there. That's a lot
of dislike, yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Like, yeah, I'll take that. But the charges of the
same way, you know what.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
And Russell was like, you know what, I'm so good,
I come play for.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Like league minimum. Yeah, one point point.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Two million dollars because I'm good.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Because Den we still got to pay him twenty nine million.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I thought it was like thirty thirty nine.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
What you get up in the twenties. It's just thirty
nine is a big difference. The guy take the exture team.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, does he have to play Colorado taxes on that
or I don't know any taxes.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That's a good question.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
This is my feeling on the Cowboys, whether they hit
or not. You're gonna need offensive lineman and it's gonna short.
And I promise you if you don't feel it, what's
I can't think of the kid the young kid that
played well from Oregon we got from Oregon State this year,
played a little guard Hoffman not halfing the other kids.
(40:19):
TJ if, TJ bass and awesome riches are not integral
parts of your offensive line. We're gonna be in trouble
even if we draft a guy that can be a
stud because the one thing that is our right guard
is as great as he recovered the last six or
seven games of the year last he can't get injured
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because his injuries now are adding up to two and
three games.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
So he ain't getting that ankle twist now in this
one game or he played through it. It's costing us.
So you're finna go through this tyrun thing with your
right guard.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
M so.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
And they redown him, remember they redid him, So he's
gonna you know, they said talking about he may be
released next year and then brought back again.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
But he's all pro. But that is it.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
Your right tackle is the biggest question mark in America.
You and I forgot about him, so you just brought
him up. Your right tackle is.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
A huge question And when you talk about.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
The offensive line and like how it's the unity bru
it's it's kind of falling apart, not falling apart, but
people are leaving and it's not what it used to be.
And then the biggest question mark on the team is
like you're about to put a lot of money in
the guy that stands behind those guys that have a
lot of question marks.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Across all five of those positions.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
It's like, and then you don't have a run game
to help him out right now to take that pressure
off of him, So that puts even more pressure on him.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Like little Little the Cowboys backed themselves into a corner
like this is this is the result of not handling business,
the business side of things early on. And this goes
all the way back to Dak Prescott when they should
have gave him a deal after his third year and
they didn't, and then they franchised him, and then they
franchised him again, and so all that stuff is we're
(42:16):
now seeing the residual effect of that. And now when
you got to sit up here and you have to
pay your quarterback because Dak has found himself in this
sweet spot because quarterback is such a premium position, and
Dak every single year, despite what you may feel about him,
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he finds itself in that top ten, eleven, twelve quarterback conversation.
Feel how you feel when you place him in that order, right,
and he plays well enough that he's in.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
The MVP conversation.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
He plays well enough where he gives you your offense,
a number one offense in the league.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
But he does it.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
He's not elite to get you over the hump that
you need, but he ain't bad enough to get you
a top ten pick. So he finds himself in that
very very unique sweet spot where you're damned if you
do and damned if you don't. Like At some point
in time, you're gonna have to make the tough decision
of we're gonna have to either go all in and
(43:19):
getting another quarterback from somewhere else, or we're gonna have
to suck bad enough pause to get a top ten
pick to find another franchise quarterback. No team has been
luckier than the Cowboys when it comes to quarterback. You
gotta undraft the free agent and a fourth round guy
for the last decade, two decades to be your franchise quarterback.
And you know what I'm saying, Like that didn't happen.
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No other team has had that sort of luck or
blessing or whatever you want to call it at two
quarterback positions to go undrafted fourth round pick and to
find you a quarterback that's in the top ten conversation
every single year to keep your team relevant. And they
haven't capitalized on it. And that window is I said
last year. If you didn't get it last year. To me,
(44:02):
that window was closing it and it's showing to be
true by the way we look at this offseason.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
You know, if you think just that, you said a
whole lot, then bro because if you think it's that
simple axe Minnesota, they was dying to get this kid
out of there. It was when he got injured. Nobody
was upset. Now all of a sudden they trying, They
tried to pay him, but he's still got a good
deal in Atlanta. Baker Mayfield was off the map and
(44:27):
he got three years, one hundred bag.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
So y'all.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
I mean, you know, Dad's tweeted X out there, Hey,
they need to pay you, Dak because he ain't.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Getting no help, no help.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Lamb, You're gonna get all the balls.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
And I'll also say this in closing, when you talk
about free agents and people wanting to come in here,
I do think when you look at the landscape, if
I'm an agent, I'm I'm looking at the cowboys, and
I'm saying to myself, do I want my client, especially
if he's a client that I know can get another
contract out of it?
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (45:10):
Do I want to send him to a place where
your head coach slash OC is on a one year
lame duck deal, your DC is on a one year deal.
And now do I want to send my client there?
Because if I send him there under ZIM and thinking, Okay,
he's gonna play this role and is under ZIM, and
then Zim is gone next year and a new guy
comes in, and now my client isn't looked at in
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that same role, that can hurt the productivity, That can
hurt us getting to a next contract. Same thing offensively,
if I'm looking at a guy, I'm saying, is Dow's
a place to go that my client will be able
to come in start have success. And then the coach
leaves after a year. Now a new coach comes in,
the philosophy changes. My client now looks at that and goes,
(45:52):
maybe now they're not used the same way, they're not
valued the same way, and now it makes it more
difficult for us to get the contract the next contract
in a couple of years. So those are a couple
of things that you look at. The Cowboys have put
themselves in a very very very difficult situation to be successful,
and it's gonna take a lot from that quarterback to
do something he's never done before, is to be in
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that elite category to get this team over the hump,
because there will.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Be some hole that just won't be able to be filled.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
It's not he's not a named up coach. Who's McCarthy,
he's not. He'll that's in the show.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
They'll they'll win ten games next year and he'll get
a new contract.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Not here, won't get it, will get playoffs that ain't enough.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
You gotta win three?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Will you gotta get to the NFC championship game?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Or oh that's the topic for the next.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
No, no, no, we don't have to go anywhere, do we, Chris, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Man ain't said nothing all show and now I'm just
saying he may live here multiple years in Dallas.
Speaker 7 (47:01):
He will be the head coach after next year. Coach
MacArthur will be because they'll win ten games, they'll make
it to the second round the playoffs, they'll get kicked
out and then we'll that same conversation that you just
used for the last thirty five minutes will be regurgitated.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Only reason why we shouldn't keep him.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Because I don't know what I don't know what CBD
oil you got there. If he gets ten wins as
in the second round exit, there is good.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
A job and hell a good job, not great.
Speaker 7 (47:35):
You did a great job explaining the holes that the
Cowboys have, what they need to do, the players they're
trying to bring in just to be coaches.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
You've done a great job. And if I'm Mike, I'm
taking this show and saying that Jared, listen to what
Jesse just said at the end. Yeah, this is why
I should be your coach going into the future.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
And Jerry gonna say I'm gonna do the same thing
to you and I did to him. That's an thank
you for your service.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Jesse.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
I wish I had, I wish I had.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
Jesse. Thanks for contributing.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Kurt, wish you were here.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Chris, thanks for helping out. Thanks kids in the back,
Happy spring break. We will be back next week. Chris,
thanks for keeping us on the air. Jazz, I didn't
see you back there.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
We miss you.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
I saw Joys.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh did you okay?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
She walked by?
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Hey, Jazz and what's my man's namesh Josh, thanks for
keeping us on the social channels. We'll be back next week.
Same time, same place. Tune in to find out who's
going to be here and who's not.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
See you next week on Hanging with the Boys, We Out.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
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Its wee and you can tell spring break isn't full
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Speaker 6 (01:30):
At the Star.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So, yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Thank you, Thank you squad in the back for helping
us out with that.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Very appreciate you, very important part of the show. So
the team got it. I'm just seventh grade, isn't here.
I got a text, okay three days ago, two days ago.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Maybe we should go all in as far as show
this week, Like the Cowboys just sit there in silace
for forty five minutes, I'm not gonna call it day.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Well, we can't do that now because they actually signed
a couple of people, a couple a deep snapper and
a linebacker, which we need, we need, and I don't
know much about this guy. So I'm going to lean
on you guys to tell me. Whether it's a very
quick conversation, whether it's a long conversation. But I tell
you what this show today is about. Positivity.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
This show is.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
About It's been a lot of aggression happened here in
thew lately.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Our fans are not happy, and rightfully so, because we
were told we're going and they listen, if you don't
live around here, they have beat this in the crowd.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I don't even want.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
To talk about it, but I feel like we have
to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You know, we were told we're all in, and look
that can be we said on the show when it happened,
that can mean so many things.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Your definition, right, their definition are not the same definition exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I think as a fan, your definition is we're
going to make free agency moves, We're going to trade
up in the draft.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
We're going to go get some marquee players.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
These things we haven't done since Brandon Carr, however long
ago that was, and there has been crickets and you know,
and look, you should expect that. That's what they do
around here, and look, that's their business. That's the way
they handle the off season. Has it worked. I guess
(03:19):
you could look at that and say.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Thirty six wins in three years.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
They have a hell of a team on paper, Like
it's the players. They can only do what the players
do on the field, right. They have put the team together,
and I think they have done a great job putting
the team together, so that, in my opinion, has worked.
The hard part is when you hear all in and
you get your expectations up, and what really hurts is
(03:44):
when you look at the division and you hear all
these big names flying around. You got sa Quon staying
in the division behind a hell of offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Now, like that's.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Gonna be really interesting, which Swift wasn't no slouch, right,
And then you got the commanders making move after move
after move, and then you know, here's the cowboys and
the giants not doing a whole lot, and like now
it's like it's just you know, and then you get
on social media and they're just getting killed right, like
it's it's actually kind of hilarious.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
If you take your if.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You take your heart out of it, it's it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But so that's my take.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I usually don't talk this much, but you know, Kurt's
not here today, so I had to pick up the
slack because you know he usually rambles for a while,
so I had to had to get my shots in.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
He said six words, So you said six words. You've
eaten up your allotment for kurtin.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
So Jesse, Uh, what's been happening?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Nati told me he's like, I'm out, I'm out, no
man life.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But here's the thing, and and and for cowboy fans
and for cowboys onlookers or whatever it is, we.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Forewarned you and.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
While while mister Jones, while Jerry Jones and Company, they
are the best marketers in the business by far, by.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Far, there's not second place is not even close.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
It's not even close. And that star.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
They have said this for a long time, and different variations.
This year, it just so happens to be the word.
The words, the word salad, the word is all in.
And when we took that coming off what happened against
Green Bay and the playoffs, and we assumed, and you
know what they say about assuming and me, okay, And
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this is the way that they do business. This is
the way they do business for a long time. So
to expect something different is your fault. It's not their fault.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's not. It's not.
Speaker 7 (05:52):
It's your fault for expecting you to be wrong when
you're not.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Like it is your fault to see that is who
is their fault.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The fans fault, cowboys.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
No no, no, no, no's about the fans, because you allow yourself
to be fooled every single year. No difference has that
has has come about in the way that they operate.
To their credit. Again, we sometimes have to take a
step back and take off your fan.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Hat just for a moment.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
If you can't hard to do, it's hard to do,
and put on your business hat. Put on if you
sat in the seat of Jerry Jones, if you set
in the seat of Stephen Jones, I know, what's a
difficult thing to do. But I wish I wish Kurt
was here. I would tell you to go look up
what was fan attendance for the last twenty years. I
(06:53):
think the Cowboys have nineteen of them?
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yepst intended games, most.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Most fans attended games.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Go look at watch games.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Go look at the hundred watch the most viewed TV
shows or Evince and TV right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Just TV nice for and tv TV.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yes, probably ninety of them are football and out of
the ninety the top five, three of them are.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Cowboys and haven't won the Super Bowl in thirty years.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Go look at the merchandise.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Go look at the fact that they made one billion
dollars and what they were able to do in everything
that happened at at and T Stadium. I got twelve
is last year, the year before that, and the year
before that. For all intensive purposes, as I'm saying that, right,
intensive purposes whatever, for all whatever business is booming, right,
(07:54):
business is booming. So why would I change what I do.
I am a businessman. I'm a businessman. And the greatest
gift that Jerry and Steven and Charlotte and Miss gen
and all of them have is my name is.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
On the checks. They can smell fresh cash. That was great, great, trump.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Great, that was perfect.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
I was waiting for.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
That was when the kids show up. He actually he's like, Daddy,
gotta word, watch this.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Push it.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
But but.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
This is.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
The business, ladies and gentlemen. I know, I know, I
know that you do not like it.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
But at the end of the day when they go
sit down with the accountants and they go look at
the books, business, this is my camera. Business is booming
for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Period. And so I'm not going to change my game.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And the ninth inning when every time we get to
the fourth quarter of the fiscal year, I'm willing. I'm
in the green. I'm not in I'm not even close
to the red. I ain't even in the black. I'm
in the green, green, green, green. And that's the name
(09:31):
of the game. When you are able to digest that fact,
when you're able to take into the fact that it's
about being able to have my bottom dollar be top
dog dollar. I think you'll be able to sit and
(09:51):
live with what is happening. I'm not changing my game
when I'm when I'm worth, when my franchise is the
most valuable franchise in any sport on any corner of
the continent, and I don't have to produce Super Bowls.
That's the nature of the Beasts, So none of this
(10:13):
is surprising. They don't make moves on day one or
day two. They shop in areas, they draft, they develop,
and granted, give them some credit, give them some credit.
I feel how you feel, and I'm not here because
I'm not here to take size or whatever it is,
but feel how you feel.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
On paper, it's work.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
They put a damn good roster out there. Yeah, on paper,
their offense is tops in the league. Defensively, they lead
in certain categories sacks or turnovers. They produce enough to
get you to watch, to purchase tickets, and to come
along for the ride. Now, it may come to a flaming, screeching,
(11:00):
halting crash year in and year out, but damn it,
buckle up, this is what it is.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I'm here for it.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
So the moment.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
The moment, the moment you the moment you're able to
sit with that and stop thinking that they think how
you think. The moment you're the moment, you'll be better.
You have to come to a point in time when
you just have to I have a saying, like in
my life is that I love people for who they are.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Right.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
If if you're a person who I know is consistently.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
Lying, wow, wow.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
No, I'm just saying I love you, but I know
you're a liar. But if I believe you, it's not
your fault. It's my fault because I know you're a liar.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Why are you trying to connect this?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm not I'm not so happened to come out first.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
If you are a person that if you're a person
that's consistently.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
Late, right, okay, good good.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
If you're a person that's consistently late.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
A couple of days while the draft is look at
a couple of days, why free agency? If you're a person,
if you're a person that's consistent the Cowboys.
Speaker 9 (12:21):
Hey beyond time, Chris, you back there, you're working to day.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Look, he tried to show the kids he actually does something.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
You hear your ten dollars to day.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
But if you're a person that's consistently late, I love you,
but if.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I expect you to be to be on time, it's not.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Your fault, it's my fault. You've shown me exactly who
you are.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And if you choose to not associate with that person
because of those habits, that's your decisions decision, and you
can do that.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
But if you're going to stick around.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Then you got what you got got to be acceptable.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Same thing with this team and until you have enough
and you go, I'm not doing it. I'm I'm trading
my loyal team for another team and I'm going over here,
which obviously they sell out every game. The fan base
has not done. You keep coming back, you know, and.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
You said it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You you you, you said it.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You do say things that are right, and you do
have wisdom on this show, and I appreciate you contributing.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
You know, even though people don't want to hear it
a lot of times. You said it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
That the week that he said we're all in, you said,
now what does that mean?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
There? You go, well, that tb D.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Right now, when we get to July and we're in
training camp and we're still you know, we may still
be asking that question, Okay, when do we find out?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Well, no, you won't be asking that question.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
You'll be talking about how great the guys that we
thank you, and.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
What will happen.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
We'll get to auction art and then the social media
team they'll show they'll they'll do his clip and the
cars will be back to They'll be backed up back.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Have a couple of clips from.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
The sideline and everybody be retweeting them and like, oh
my god, look at this.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We will McLay did it again. We were just yes,
I know, I know.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Man, I can't show you all some of these pictures
I got during the week of who's gonna be our starting?
Speaker 6 (14:21):
What's wrong?
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Picture?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
What I got from some of my guys of who's
going to be the start and running back and the
little fellow there.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, our show change may not be politically correct.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Let's talk about that when we come back. Let's talk
about you know what.
Speaker 7 (14:39):
Do we Tony Polin is with the Titans. They said
he's a notable edition on Good Morning Football.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
We'll talk about Eric Caie a little bit. I think
this is a good sign. I think this is a
good signing. I think it's a great, great signing. I mean,
I don't know about.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
The guy's a machine. Great.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Great, you ask me one question. Okay, does he get injured?
You say no, no, he answered a great So.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
We have a reliable, reliable line.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
It's been a while, yes, sir, all.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Right, he'll get here.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
We just hey, well, curse out here, curse out here.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
So he's not state fits. So, by the way, Nate,
good job. You escape the first segment without contributing.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
This job. You call the cowboys liar.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
They always I didn't, I didn't, I didn't not so
many words.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Yeah, gread examples.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yes, all right, we will be right back and we'll
talk more.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We'll give you this is this is the show of
sunshine and hope and in brightness today.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Now, Chris, pull that outside picture up? What the what
the gloom? Put the pull that picture up.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's what we are the plaza for the plaza, not
today for the plaza.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
That's the way the fans feel a little there. You go,
look how dark?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's not really that dark. It's dark, but it's not.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
That camera makes it look super. Yeah, it's on an
auto iris so that the monitor there.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
All right, Well, we'll be right back to talk more.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
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Speaker 6 (18:41):
Wow. Yeah, we're not consistent. Kurt's not here. I won't
be here you miss Jesse wasn't here a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm not gonna be here a couple of times.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
I mean, thank you, I'm always here.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Well, you don't always bring it. Sometimes bringing it today
you're showing out for the kids.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
I like the shows for the kids today. About that, Yeah, man,
what kids?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Not your kids? Not your kids? Not your kids.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Sure, I'll tell you what, man.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I went to a local restaurant that has video games
here in the Frisco area down the street last.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Night, Santoni to come out and talk to you.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Do I guess what I didn't hear you finish?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And I go there a lot on Wednesdays because they
have half priced games, so you know, and I'm cheap.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
We went last night. I mean it was it was
a zoo.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You forgot it was spring break?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Yeah I did.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
And we went and it was like you couldn't even
there were like people waiting in line to play games.
I was like, so, if you've never been in this
area on spring break people take off work when their kids.
Is that a national thing or is that just a
local thing when I was when I was a kid,
you just got turned loose and you just went and played.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Time's different. You're fifty two, I know, thanks for you
know what I mean, Like forty years ago it was okay.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I just still don't realize I'm that old.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, it's so different, man, Like you got to understand,
like there was I mean, this is not a joke,
but you grew up in the trailer parks.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, right for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
This is see see see I really did. He really did.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I never did. I never lived in a trailer to
be funny.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Of that, because what I'm about to say is, of
course that comes off to be funny, but like that's
the environment that you grew up in. But we grew
up in a time where you had you had the village.
So even though your mother, your father wasn't home, Miss
Shirley next door or you know, mister Melvin down the block,
(20:54):
they watched out for the kids in the community, and
you knew the boundaries you knew, Hey, I can't go
past this block. This is my parameter. All the kids
knew that in the neighborhood. So it was like even
when your mother, your father, whoever was your was your guardian,
wasn't there. You always had the community that was looking
out for the kids.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
We don't have that anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
No, And you didn't have a cell phone. So when
you don't turn loose in the in the neighborhood, you
were loose until dark and you you drank from a
water hose. I'm saying you were lucky if you got
to you know.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
And if you acted up, Miss Shirley could grab you,
buy a shirt and be like, come on, let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Like, here's a sandwich, here's half of here's some pimento
cheese and some bread.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Yeah, I know your mother working over time. You know
what I'm saying. I know I know your mother at
the job.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
You know what I'm saying. I just came from downtown.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
She know she working, She working the double us spring
break And that's how that's they don't have that this day.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
You know you don't. You don't have that.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Man so different, you don't have that.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
You don't you know, you don't you know?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Like I said, back then, a pack of hot dogs
cost you less than a dollar, right, so it wasn't
nothing for your mom to put hot dogs, boil a
couple of hot dogs, and here, y'all here, get out
of here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Then they changed the name of Glizzies and now they
all fancy and costs eight bucks a pat geez.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
So anyway, all right, so spring.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Break talking, enough of that, Okay, back to it.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
What let's talk Eric Hendrick. Let's just come. Let's address that.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Tell me about him because I don't know a lot
about him. What are we getting?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
So the first thing that you're getting, you're getting a
zim guy, right, Zim's comes in. He's a new deferensive coordinator.
He's implementing his system and this is not uncommon in
any sport.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
How old is it?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
How does Hendrick thirty two? Okay, he'll be thirty two
during the season. Has he been with Minnesota's whole career?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Now ers last year, the Chargers last year?
Speaker 5 (22:37):
He got the Chargers last year. But he's been with
Minnesota seven years. But he's a zim guy, right? His
system is he learned football under Zim. So anytime you
see coaches, new coaches come in, I mean, hell, look
at dan Quinton in Washington, right. He's bringing a bunch
of guys that have come that know his style and
this plays well. This is the OG move, this is
the OG that comes into the locker room, and he's
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able to be an extension of the coaches or the
coordinator's voice. He comes in and says, hey, guys, like
you know, on this particular play, we coach want this,
or we should do this. And because he's been around
Zen long enough, he knows how to come in and
take some of these younger guys and even some of
the veteran guys under the wing and go, here's what
we need to be doing in this defense in order
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to be successful.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So question on that because there was a lot of
talk when Zim came in about him identifying with these
younger generation of players. When you bring a guy in
like that that understands how he coaches, that's been around him,
that these other guys, younger guys may not be used
to his style, does that help him translate, Hey, this
is what coach is really saying. He didn't really mean
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it like that he he's just old school and he's
a hard ass.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
One hundred percent. Like this is the old G voice.
This is the o G voice in the locker room
that is able to translate a lot of times, maybe
some of the aggression that Zim may coach with and
kind of like, hey, I know y'all may not be
used to that, but he don't really mean nothing by that.
Like he's just intense on the practice field. But here
are the details that we need to really lock in
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and hone in on. But the thing about Kendrick, he's
not a guy who's he doesn't get hurt, right, So
we're not bringing in No, we're not bringing in a
hurt guy. And for his age and what he's always
been about. I mean, he was the second leading tackler
last year for the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
He tackles, he is going to tackle.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He was going to see that guy that we've been
talking about on the show that you need a guy
that a dude hits somebody and drops him, right.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
I don't know if he's I don't know if he's
the hammer, Like I don't think he's like a hammer.
He's a tackling machine. Like he's going to be able
to He's going to.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
If he played for us last year, he led our
team in tackles.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
He had one hundred and seventeen tackles last year.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Wow, yeah, I mean we had safeties playing linebacker.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
But yes, Like here's the thing at thirty two, he's
the best linebacker we have on our team.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
For those that are considered linebackers. If you want to
take Mike, I don't know what you want to put
high you.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Want to put Micah, but he's he's better than even
if Laydon Van Derush is in the mix. He's better
than all of those. He can diagnose, he can now
the covers part thirty two a little bit long in
the two if he may not be able to cover
as good. But sideline a sideline and recognition, and I
think that is key is being able to understand what
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am I looking at. I've seen this formation. I understand
my keys when Nate you can talk about it, when
that guard pulls, or when that tackle blocks down, or
when that center is the lead like all these different things.
The key that the linebacker can able to identify is
and this is one of the things that is going
to be critical that we didn't have last year because honestly,
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guys like Marquis Belt just didn't understand it, just didn't
know run fits run fits. I have to know when
I'm the hammer. I have to know when I'm the scraper.
I have to know where my where's my help? Because
if my help is backside, then guess what I can't do.
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I can't get blocked backside. I gotta get over the
top and send it back to my pursuit.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Sometimes you have to know what is my run fit.
I just can't run up there just to run up
there because if my help is to my left, but
I get blocked to the left, and guess what the
running back cuts the opposite ways. Two guys in one hole,
we're not making a tackle until it's eight, ten, twelve
yards on the field.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
I haven't seen that this year.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
So the run fits is going to be so critical
for a linebacker to understand where am I supposed to
fit in this play?
Speaker 4 (26:36):
That that way?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Now my my will on my sam that linebackers that
they're able to free flow and make the tackle. So
I think I think with Eric Kendrick, you get an OG,
you get a VET, you get someone who understands what
the hell they're looking at, that can make thee that
can make the calls. You have that guy in the middle,
baring any injury, You give him an opportunity, and now
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you let overshown continue to develop under the tutelage of
an og like Eric Kendrick, and give them little nuggets,
give a little Hey, young fellow looking at this, Hey
young fellow, you know what I'm saying. Here's how you study,
here's what you need to watch. And Eric's been around
long enough where he's seen so many different offenses that
he's able to identify certain things and give the clues
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and the keys to the guys around him. So I
think it's a really good signing for the Cowboys. It
isn't a signing that's gonna, you know, be here for
the next three, four, five years, but it is one
that can make a significant impact right away, barring any
any setbacks as far as injury.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Give me somebody that's healthy, that can tackle, that knows
where they're.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Supposed to be and when they're supposed to be a
Derrick Hendrick.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I'll take some a couple of bone coverages.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, he's a ballplayer, he's a ballplayer. Good player.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I feel better about it.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
He had six pass defenses last year, so okay, which would.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Be like third on our team.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wow, all right, you made me feel better, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Yeah, good player. No, no, the Cowboys got a good
really good football player, really good football player. He'll be
an impact.
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All Right, fifteen minutes left. Nate have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Gotta get you involved before we before we leave. You
tried to, you try, you almost escape, you almost escape.
Offensive line. What are we gonna do because we've already
had what we would consider an average offensive line this year?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Right, you needed help.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You had a really good running back that's gone now,
So I don't know what you're gonna do there behind
it at let's say an average offensive line.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Now, your center has left. Your left tackle is a
free agent.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That sounds like from all the reports that he's not
probably not coming back, but no one scooped him up yet.
So you could move your left guard out to tackle,
but he's already got a problem grabbing onto people.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
If you put him in space, that could become.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
A bigger problem.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Right, So your two most important positions that we talked
about last week, your center, your left tackle or probably gone.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
One's gone.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
One's probably gone.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
You're not getting any younger across the offensive line, and
then the run game is gone at least is the
way we knew it.
Speaker 6 (32:03):
What draft of center?
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Yeah, well first round, you gotta get a you gotta
get a bulldog center. You you I just as much
as people brag on left tackles, and yes they are
something special to have. But if you got a center,
if you got and I know this reaching like that
kid that played in Philadelphia for eighty five years and Kelsey,
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you can just find.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
You one of those. How hard is it to find
a center like that? Very, very hard. Yeah, because we.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Uh, it's just some good centers around the league, but
it seemed like they're not lasting long. They'll come in
and they'll flash for four or five, six years, and
about eight years they're gone.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
But Kelsey is that exception man.
Speaker 12 (32:48):
He was.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
He was that exception.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
He was.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
He was.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
He was nice. What's the kid that got the disease
for us?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
That retire by Travis Frederickdick That right there was one
of the biggest law and I try to tell people
that said, yeah, that's a loss. Even with his diminished skills.
After he went through the disease and came back, even
with his diminished skills, he was better than sixty to
seven percent of the centers in the league. And we
haven't replaced that guy. We haven't replaced him, and now
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we've lost our center.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
Be oddish. Uh, he yeah, he was to me, he
was above average guy.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
The Commanders think he's more valuable than the Cowboys do.
So we have to replace him. Who were replacing with Well,
we'll see are you worried? Are you are you worried?
Are we good?
Speaker 7 (33:38):
I know we're not good. No, we'll we're far from good.
Because now you don't have a left tackle. You don't
have a center. Those are two major pieces.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
And yeah, yeah that question Mark, Yeah, that's a big question.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Would you guys, would you guys bring back Tyran?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I know he's had the health issues. I know he's
up there, but right now the options I.
Speaker 7 (33:58):
Will have a price, but tyrun as a swing tackle.
You either you either take it you don't. Yeah, and
that's what I think. That's what they offered him. Like,
here's your money, man.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
You know, say what it is? What do you do?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Because I mean, you got so many holes on the
offensive line, you got you need a defensive stop gap, guy,
you need a lineback. Well, does this take care of
your linebacker worries in the draft by signing Kendrick or
you still need to go get one?
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Were stilled because you don't have any depth, right, you don't.
You don't really have any depth, you know. Nah, there's
not enough depth in the lineback because we.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
Don't have a linebacker. We don't besides the sign of kindreds.
To be honest, we don't have a linebacker. Bail is
not a line But I don't care what you say.
This kid is a safety that need to be getting
great valuable time at a safety. This I'm telling you
we sat here it started. Ary Church was the first one.
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He just open it up.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
And this kid here and I'm not saying a kid
got jes he he latched onto it.
Speaker 7 (35:02):
And from that point I'm sitting over here between the
two shows, sat Lord, please Florida and m please.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Get this kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
I didn't want to say nothing.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
So thanks to Jesse, thanks to Church, and Green Bay
said hey we're running at him.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
So we didn't have a linebacker. Now we have a linebacker.
Will we get depth? We need up? We need offensive lineman.
We need offensive lineman. How we get them? Do they
draft one?
Speaker 5 (35:31):
And this is the frustrating part when you talk about
the free agency, because is you put so much pressure
now on Will McLay and the scouts to hit on
every single pick in the draft.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
And think about it.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Now, you need what two position two maybe three positions
at offensive line. You need a defensive lineman, you need
a linebacker. You probably need to get a receiver at
some point. You probably you got to get a running
back somewhere, like I mean, that's seven.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
You don't have to be you don't have it. You know,
you don't have that like it. And again, anybody that
you get in the fifth, sixth, seventh round.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
That ain't guaranteed, that mean hell, first round pick saying
guaranteed here, we know, we know, second round pick saying
guaranteed here.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
So that puts so much pressure on your football team.
And I think, and I get it.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I know why the fans are upset because you look
at it and you're saying, dude, we got holds of
field and you right now, the Cowboys can't feel the
hole they need to feel because of the.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Dak Prescott contract. It's holding them up.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
What's what's the hold up with that?
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, you don't have the money to spend because if
you go into if you go into this year, I mean,
his cap hit is so large that there isn't enough
pot to go around. So the best thing that you
can do is to reduce the cap hit stream, you know,
put the new money on top of it, and now make.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
His make his almost like his base salary, almost like
a bubble payment on a it's.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
A credit credit to the end.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Push it to the end. Say the same thing with
CD LAMB. Push those things to the end.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
We'll deal with it when the money gets bigger.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
It's a credit card. It's the credit card, right, you know.
And then eventually you have to you have to, you know,
you have to come home and pay that pay that bill.
But you can't make any moves in doing that. And
this is this is the complaint from the fans. It's
like where you're asking them now to hit on it,
like not just hey, we need a you need a
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draft a good guy. We need a draft of good
guy and he needs to be an impact player today.
Whether that's a tackle, whether that's a center, got to start,
whether that's a lineback, They got to start. And there
is no room for them not to be average or
above out the gates. And that's a tough, tall task
to go. Hey, rookie left tackle, well, no, we took
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you in the first round, but I need you to
be I need you to be Hall of Fame level
for us to be successful. Hey, center that you've never seen.
These guys are gonna stand in front of you before.
I need you to be impact level right now. Linebacker, defensive,
but whatever it is, so you you you have some
key spots that you need to fill. And it's like
the urgency to fill those spots is not met, and
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then it leaves you to go into the draft and say,
we gotta go, perfect, we gotta, we gotta go.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
You miss this, you can't miss I mean, you missed
a lot last year.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
So there and then and then you found yourself where
and you find yourself at Dollar General trying to get
players to hit right, you're trying to you're trying to
find players that are gonna give you some value at
Dollar General.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Now, we know some of that stuff will work temporarily,
but overall, when you need it to work the most.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Does every team have cap Hell problems or is it yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Or is it just we just we just hear about
it so.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Much because Saints man wed it was in terrible position
a couple of weeks ago, but they started cutting players.
They gotta they don't have full complimentary, complimentary of players.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
The Broncos, and they saw what they did with the kid.
Let the kid get off to the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
You know, it's to want somebody to be eighty five
million dollars mad at me, you know, don't like me, like,
don't like me eighty five million dollars worth.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
That's a lot of hate right there. That's a lot
of dislike, yeah, I'll take that.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Like, yeah, I'll take that. But the charges of the
same way, you know what.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
And Russell was like, you know what, I'm so good,
I come play for.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Like league minimum. Yeah, one point point.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Two million dollars because I'm good.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
Because Den we still got to pay him twenty nine million.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I thought it was like thirty thirty nine.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
What you get up in the twenties. It's just thirty
nine is a big difference. The guy take the exture team.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, does he have to play Colorado taxes on that
or I don't know any taxes.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That's a good question.
Speaker 7 (39:56):
This is my feeling on the Cowboys, whether they hit
or not. You're gonna need offensive lineman and it's gonna short.
And I promise you if you don't feel it, what's
I can't think of the kid the young kid that
played well from Oregon we got from Oregon State this year,
played a little guard Hoffman not halfing the other kids.
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TJ if, TJ bass and awesome riches are not integral
parts of your offensive line. We're gonna be in trouble
even if we draft a guy that can be a
stud because the one thing that is our right guard
is as great as he recovered the last six or
seven games of the year last he can't get injured
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because his injuries now are adding up to two and
three games.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
So he ain't getting that ankle twist now in this
one game or he played through it. It's costing us.
So you're finna go through this tyrun thing with your
right guard.
Speaker 9 (40:56):
M so.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
And they redown him, remember they redid him, So he's
gonna you know, they said talking about he may be
released next year and then brought back again.
Speaker 6 (41:05):
But he's all pro. But that is it.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
Your right tackle is the biggest question mark in America.
You and I forgot about him, so you just brought
him up. Your right tackle is.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
A huge question And when you talk about.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
The offensive line and like how it's the unity bru
it's it's kind of falling apart, not falling apart, but
people are leaving and it's not what it used to be.
And then the biggest question mark on the team is
like you're about to put a lot of money in
the guy that stands behind those guys that have a
lot of question marks.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Across all five of those positions.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
It's like, and then you don't have a run game
to help him out right now to take that pressure
off of him, So that puts even more pressure on him.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Like little Little the Cowboys backed themselves into a corner
like this is this is the result of not handling business,
the business side of things early on. And this goes
all the way back to Dak Prescott when they should
have gave him a deal after his third year and
they didn't, and then they franchised him, and then they
franchised him again, and so all that stuff is we're
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now seeing the residual effect of that. And now when
you got to sit up here and you have to
pay your quarterback because Dak has found himself in this
sweet spot because quarterback is such a premium position, and
Dak every single year, despite what you may feel about him,
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he finds itself in that top ten, eleven, twelve quarterback conversation.
Feel how you feel when you place him in that order, right,
and he plays well enough that he's in.
Speaker 4 (42:49):
The MVP conversation.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
He plays well enough where he gives you your offense,
a number one offense in the league.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
But he does it.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
He's not elite to get you over the hump that
you need, but he ain't bad enough to get you
a top ten pick. So he finds himself in that
very very unique sweet spot where you're damned if you
do and damned if you don't. Like At some point
in time, you're gonna have to make the tough decision
of we're gonna have to either go all in and
(43:19):
getting another quarterback from somewhere else, or we're gonna have
to suck bad enough pause to get a top ten
pick to find another franchise quarterback. No team has been
luckier than the Cowboys when it comes to quarterback. You
gotta undraft the free agent and a fourth round guy
for the last decade, two decades to be your franchise quarterback.
And you know what I'm saying, Like that didn't happen.
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No other team has had that sort of luck or
blessing or whatever you want to call it at two
quarterback positions to go undrafted fourth round pick and to
find you a quarterback that's in the top ten conversation
every single year to keep your team relevant. And they
haven't capitalized on it. And that window is I said
last year. If you didn't get it last year. To me,
(44:02):
that window was closing it and it's showing to be
true by the way we look at this offseason.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
You know, if you think just that, you said a
whole lot, then bro because if you think it's that
simple axe Minnesota, they was dying to get this kid
out of there. It was when he got injured. Nobody
was upset. Now all of a sudden they trying, They
tried to pay him, but he's still got a good
deal in Atlanta. Baker Mayfield was off the map and
(44:27):
he got three years, one hundred bag.
Speaker 6 (44:30):
So y'all.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
I mean, you know, Dad's tweeted X out there, Hey,
they need to pay you, Dak because he ain't.
Speaker 6 (44:41):
Getting no help, no help.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Oh, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 6 (44:48):
Lamb, You're gonna get all the balls.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
And I'll also say this in closing, when you talk
about free agents and people wanting to come in here,
I do think when you look at the landscape, if
I'm an agent, I'm I'm looking at the cowboys, and
I'm saying to myself, do I want my client, especially
if he's a client that I know can get another
contract out of it?
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Excuse me?
Speaker 5 (45:10):
Do I want to send him to a place where
your head coach slash OC is on a one year
lame duck deal, your DC is on a one year deal.
And now do I want to send my client there?
Because if I send him there under ZIM and thinking, Okay,
he's gonna play this role and is under ZIM, and
then Zim is gone next year and a new guy
comes in, and now my client isn't looked at in
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that same role, that can hurt the productivity, That can
hurt us getting to a next contract. Same thing offensively,
if I'm looking at a guy, I'm saying, is Dow's
a place to go that my client will be able
to come in start have success. And then the coach
leaves after a year. Now a new coach comes in,
the philosophy changes. My client now looks at that and goes,
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maybe now they're not used the same way, they're not
valued the same way, and now it makes it more
difficult for us to get the contract the next contract
in a couple of years. So those are a couple
of things that you look at. The Cowboys have put
themselves in a very very very difficult situation to be successful,
and it's gonna take a lot from that quarterback to
do something he's never done before, is to be in
(46:14):
that elite category to get this team over the hump,
because there will.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Be some hole that just won't be able to be filled.
Speaker 6 (46:22):
It's not he's not a named up coach. Who's McCarthy,
he's not. He'll that's in the show.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
They'll they'll win ten games next year and he'll get
a new contract.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Not here, won't get it, will get playoffs that ain't enough.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
You gotta win three?
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Will you gotta get to the NFC championship game?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Or oh that's the topic for the next.
Speaker 6 (46:45):
No, no, no, we don't have to go anywhere, do we, Chris, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Man ain't said nothing all show and now I'm just
saying he may live here multiple years in Dallas.
Speaker 7 (47:01):
He will be the head coach after next year. Coach
MacArthur will be because they'll win ten games, they'll make
it to the second round the playoffs, they'll get kicked
out and then we'll that same conversation that you just
used for the last thirty five minutes will be regurgitated.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
Only reason why we shouldn't keep him.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Because I don't know what I don't know what CBD
oil you got there. If he gets ten wins as
in the second round exit, there is good.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
A job and hell a good job, not great.
Speaker 7 (47:35):
You did a great job explaining the holes that the
Cowboys have, what they need to do, the players they're
trying to bring in just to be coaches.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
You've done a great job. And if I'm Mike, I'm
taking this show and saying that Jared, listen to what
Jesse just said at the end. Yeah, this is why
I should be your coach going into the future.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
And Jerry gonna say I'm gonna do the same thing
to you and I did to him. That's an thank
you for your service.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Jesse.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
I wish I had, I wish I had.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
Jesse. Thanks for contributing.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Kurt, wish you were here.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Chris, thanks for helping out. Thanks kids in the back,
Happy spring break. We will be back next week. Chris,
thanks for keeping us on the air. Jazz, I didn't
see you back there.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
We miss you.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
I saw Joys.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
Oh did you okay?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
She walked by?
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Hey, Jazz and what's my man's namesh Josh, thanks for
keeping us on the social channels. We'll be back next week.
Same time, same place. Tune in to find out who's
going to be here and who's not.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
See you next week on Hanging with the Boys, We Out.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and
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