October 8, 2025 • 49 mins
Dak Prescott’s game has gotten so cerebral that there’s likely nothing the Carolina defense can do to surprise him. So does that mean if the Cowboys don’t have success, the errors will be self-inflicted? And how does Prescott compare to Tony Romo after matching him in career starts? Plus, should the Cowboys spend draft capital to trade for defensive help?
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
We good old Nate, get along over here, get a
get along.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know what's so amazing. I used to be the
most trouble making dude. Just say yes, I mean yes.
My goal whenever I met a person, I would find
out everything. I would let them just talk talk to
and then everything they said I didn't agree with, I
would just use it against them. Now, in my later years,
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it seemed like I get along with three of the
most offensive people to a lot of other people come
in the world.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
I mean complicated, I mean wow, think.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, those names will remains, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Yeah, do not want no problems, man, I get along
with these cats.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
There are core people in our industry who a lot
of people just don't get along with.
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Jesse.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Did you see the front of cards computers?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
See the trouble maker. There's still trouble maker in at
that part.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Just go to that wide shot.
Speaker 8 (02:37):
Trouble maker. Whoa bet your bottom with Kurt on the
groove and something? He just okay, all right, let's see tomorrow.
That was good. I'm gonna get my Carolina thing quick.
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Let me just get that out right. The Carolina Panthers
would give you their best game at home. On the road,
they are a different team. At home, you're gonna get
their best game. Check out the records, check out the stats.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
What you know? Yeah they two and oh, I mean
they beat the breaks.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Off of Atlanta and they they came back from down
and got Miami. I'm not saying these are two great teams.
I'm just saying they play harder at home. They go
on the road, they don't play us with everything it's
predicated off of their defense. They run a reduced look.
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There they are three four guy. They have a guy
over the tackles, a down line over the tackles, and
a nose guard. That is the original and four linebackers.
That's the original three to four, but now everything is
a reduced look to the strength to the wide side
of the field. That means that one of those tackles
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are gonna move over the guard and the outside linebacker
is gonna come from his original position and get over
the defensive or get over the tackle are the end
depending on what they're running and if it's the white
side of the field, they don't run a lot of games.
I saw against they got the A and B gaps.
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But I saw against New England they rushed one time
into the A and B gaps. Jess may have seen more.
But normally they'll get in there and they'll get out
of there because they have their five guys who they
like to rush and then that can be number ninety
five Derrick Brown. That can be a Shawn Robinson number
ninet eighty four, that can be I ain't seen much
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of ninety nine, but Patrick Jones ninety one. They got
a plethora of guys that they wi he'll try.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
To get after you. But Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Scarton number eleven is I'm saying that right, he's a
second round pick. Jess Scarton is. I'm saying that right.
Sc Scrouton, scrouton, Nick Scrouton.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
He'll get a lot of rush. He'll get a lot
of play. The DJ one of them, he'll get a
lot of play. They just they are.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The type of team that when they're home, their defensive
lineman seem to make a lot of plays. I like
their linebackers. I like number fifty six Christen Rosenboom and
number thirty two Trevor Wallace. These guys can run and
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when they're in that reduced look, their linebackers make the adjustments.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
When they get a lot of motion. I see their
linebackers move to make the jests. That's number fifty fifty
six Christian.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And in number thirty two Trevor Is I.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Pronounce that right Trayvon t r Travan.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Travan t Yes, Travan Wall, these guys, I think the
head coach, Dave Canalis, he's having the same problem that
we the Cowboys, the Jets and the Bears, trying to
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get their guys to play with consistency because.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
They're big dog.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
H Brown, Dereck Brown is number ninety five. That's their
big dog. He is a good player, he's a solid player,
but he's not an all the time player.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
He's got the ability. He's one of them few dudes.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That can just mess around, jack around and still wind
up in the right place. I hate guys like that.
I hate guys that in first gear they can kind
of get you. Second gear, they gonna definitely get you.
In third gear, you ain't got a chance. You know
what I'm saying. He's that guy.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
But you never know what gear you're getting.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You never know what gear you got, so you got
to stay full twenty seven, you know, alert and the secondary.
I can't figure out. I mean I can't. I can't
because these guys are so locked in when they're home,
and it ain't like you can't run on them. It
ain't like you can't pass on them. But as the
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game go on, they seem to play hard and hard
and hard at home and they wind up with a victory.
And their defense they have a lot of third down situations.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
They get off the field.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
They get off the field, like against Miami, they got
off the field in the second half against some even
when they went on the road against your boys, the
New England Patriot of color of your boys, because you've
seen it Byron so much. Uh, they were three for nine.
They'll get, they will get. They can get off the field.
But that thing we're gonna talk about tomorrow is the
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reason they can't.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Stay off the field.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But hey, that's all I got to say, because I
made a promise to myself when you sorry, I'm gonna
quit coming in and saying we got the drugs. So
because right now I feel like some people feel that
about our defense, Yeah, they got the drugs. So we're
gonna fix this this week. So until we improve ourselves,
I'm gonna quit throwing darts. I'm gonna be like Coach
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Belichick used to be, speaking on about yourself to be.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Just go to finish it up.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Baby. You know a lot of what you said is
absolutely true. They don't do. Last year, this defense was
the worst defense in the National Football League. And to
Nick's point, I think what they're looking to do is,
let's just be where we're supposed to be, right like,
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let's play with great effort, and they play with great
effort upfront. Let's just be where we're supposed to be.
We're not gonna trick this thing up. We're not gonna
give you all these exotic looks and all that. So
they're very similar to what the Cowboys are this year. Defensively,
it's our looks up front will be very basic. They're
not blitzing much. They they want to. They do a
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really good job I think upfront with you know, getting
off the ball, and then you're using their eyes with
vision right getting off the ball, pressing their pressing their blocks,
but also being able to kind of steal find the ball.
You'll get some juice off the edge from three, uh,
from eleven, and then every now and again they'll send
they'll send the linebacker, but they don't do a lot
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of blitzing.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
They're gonna play a lot of zone covers on the
back end. You know what they what they have and
J C. Horn that that cornerback out there. This is
one of those games where you know the Cowboys offensively.
I tweeted about it earlier. I said, you know, Jake Ferguson,
come on down. This is your week to have a
day you know, like this is this is your week
where you should be able to kill them well because
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the middle of the field is open. Yes, the middle
of the field you can you can eat because they're
playing this shell coverage, they're playing a lot of zone coverage.
Their linebackers don't drop very deep. So there is that
that that that throw that Dak love, that seam throw,
some of those some of the some of the option
routes where you're bending that with the tight end. So
there's a lot of that that's available behind that defense,
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especially using the play action as well. The Cowboys have
used the play action pass this year. Again, this is
this is the team who give great effort at home.
Nate's spot on with that. They don't do much like
they're They're not out there where you're confused, and that's
that's in it. I think today where we where we
currently sit, that's an advantage shot him or Dak because
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he can come to the line of scrimmage. They're gonna
be basically what they're in. What they're in. Again, they'll
shift some a little bit, but it's not like, you know,
a guy is standing down in the box and at
the snap he's running to the deep third right or
to the middle of the field. It's not a lot
of that. It's basically, we want to be where we're
supposed to be. We'll rally to the football and we'll
play the percentages, we'll play the we'll play the part
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of you we you know, you you go one on
one with Derrick Brown and he beats you. Now he
gets a pressure and he gets a sack, or he
hurries to throw or you know, just stuff like that.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Just defense a lot like the Cowboys and sounds it
is if so, is it better or worse?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think their defensive line is better than ours. Really,
you know, I don't know about their secondary because like
I said that, I don't know, because but I do
know if I can get to it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's very similar to the Cowboys.
And I would, like I said, I would give their
front a slight edge because of Derek Brown. I think
he's the he's the difference maker. Across that front, and
they do have a nice rotation. It feels like if
they got a ninety number there in that rotation, ninety
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eight like all nineties.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So the one that's not the number eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, yes, and they'll have three come off the edge
sometimes too. So like those guys coming off the edge
is like I said that, though there is it, there
wasn't a lot. When you watch them, you're like, oh man,
watch out for this, watch out for that, watch out
for this, watch out for that. They they line up
and they go play football. They don't have a lot
of They don't have to me, they don't have a
lot of plus players. They don't have a lot of
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guys in their defense that.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Again they have.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I think Derek Brown is a good enough player to
Na's point, where he's a guy that at any given
time can create havoc.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Yes, it's be a little tougher game for bad and Hoffman.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
They're gonna be challenged, like because he I think that
Derrick Brown falls in that conversation and I'm not in
no particular order right, but when you start talking about
defensive lineman, he's in that conversation with the sexy dexy
the Jeffrey Simmons, the Chris Jones. And I'm not I'm
not saying that in order to that, but like if
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you're talking about defensive tackles, he gets spoken about with
those guys, you know what I mean, Like he gets
spoken about where you need to kind of pay a
little bit of attention to him double them. You know,
a lot of the time when you can, you don't
want to let him, you know, you don't want to
let him get going. You kind of want to, like,
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let's keep him at bay and we'll deal with the
rest of the dudes, because if he gets going, then
he can be a guy that can really like I said,
And and he's coming from the middle, so to that
pocket is collapsing, and what Dak is doing so well
right now, man, is just he is maneuvering in that
pocket so well. He's you'll hell shot and him and
talk about it. When that backfoot hits at the top
of his drop. He's so confident, he's so direct, he's
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so deliberate that you don't want to interrupt that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
And it would have been nice to have then the
Cowboys ask for him in a possible.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been nice thing that you see.
They said, no, you.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Know the thing that he don't do that. I'm glad
and I hope nobody don't try to text him and
tell it. I'll set it off there. I don't even
about know that he don't.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, I don't want nobody to be like, you know,
telling him. But anyway, man, don't you we have seen
the Bears, the Jets in now Carolina, how teams are
trying to We're not gonna trick you up. We're gonna
make sure they're dedicating this at least his first part
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of the season, to make sure that players know where
to be, know what to do.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I think that that comes to the the lesser talented,
whether you want to admit it or not. Building football teams. Yes,
they're still trying to find guys to put in these
places and pieces. Of course, we don't use that word
here in Dallas, even when that's summertimes. What it feels
like our word yeah, and but but like like you know,
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Chicago and like the Panthers, they're they're trying to find
their way. The good teams, the veteran teams who've been
together and have those talented players on each level, they're
able to do these different things. The defensive coordinators are
season so they're able to do a lot of what
you want to have that level of confusion because in
this league, when you go up against a guy like
Dak Prescott, who is playing at a supremely high confident
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level right now year ten for him, if you line
up and you just stay to where you stay, are
you in for a long day? Because he's he's playing
the game cerebraly right now, like he's playing it so
much from shoulders up and then letting this what he
his talent take over. But it's it's mental when he
walks into the line of scrimmage and he's like, boom
boom boom, boom boom, I know where to go with
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the ball, and I'm going right now. There isn't a
level of where he's looking and he goes, what is
that coverage? You're not gonna get that against? Like Dak
won't walk to the line very much this game. Now,
everybody brings in a different game plan each and every week,
but I like to believe for what I saw that
Dak won't walk to the line against this defense. This
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weekend in Carolina and go, what what are they doing?
Like he will he won't be tricked by a coverage.
He may miss it throw of course right like he
may be like, ah, I thought I had it, you know,
came out my hand wrong, or I overshot it or whatever.
But it won't it won't be to the fact of
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how they got me on that one that that was
the one where they I thought it was a two
it would turn out to be three, or it was
three it came out to be one. And so because
they don't, they don't. They don't give you these exotic looks.
You're not gonna have six guys standing up around the
line of scrimmage and you know, are they rushing all six?
They dropping five? Like who's coming? Like where they're coming from?
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You know, not too many cat blitzeres. It's off the
slot stuff like that. So they're not giving you that
many looks. And I can say that today and then
all of a sudden they're like, oh, it's a different look.
But I'm gonna tell you what I saw from what
I watched leading up to this game. But there is
a level of because these teams have played three years
in a Row. So there's some familiar familiarity with the Cowboys,
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and this is always a factor. This is always a factor.
What we say a guy like Derek Brown is or
these other guys is to play they play with good effort.
I will say that they play.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
With good they play with good effort.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Cowboys come into town. This is homecoming, like this is,
this is, this is I don't care what time the
game is. It's prime time, right, all the fans show up,
whether they cowboy fans or pants.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Ain't NASCAR season either, Yeah, ain't.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Uh, it ain't no good football games going down to
Capitol Hill. So people like people ain't how about too
late on Saturday? Not not the game on Sunday, But but
your whatever effort that they normally give, it's probably gonna
be cranked up another level because of who they're playing,
you know what I mean. And so yeah, but there's
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nothing about this Panthers defense that I look at. Hear
my words, Terry b No, but there's nothing about this
I look at it, and I'm like, yeah, we should
have to focus on that, worry on that, like.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Go out and play and don't make a lot of
don't do a lot of dumb penalties.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
If I was getting ready to say, if the Cowboys
are struggling offensively against this defense, it's self inflicted. It's
self inflicted.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Dak has now started as many games as Tony Romo.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Get into that.
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Let's jump into Little Cowboys offense. And what better place.
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To start than a good old quarterback comparison. We all
love that, don't We About to make some folks, especially
when someone in the room played.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
With one of the quarterbacks we'll talk about.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, Dak Prescott has now started just as many games
as Tony Romo at one hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Their numbers are similar.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Romo has more yards and touchdowns, but Dak has a
higher completion percentage and passer rating with fewer interceptions and Jesse,
you know you played with Tony.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Not many quarterbacks ever.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Could analyze and dissect a defense as good as Tony
as far as coverages and where to go with the
ball and where it was going. Dak this year has
become that guy you talked about almost every show, Like,
you know, the maturity level, the physical traits and then
the mental thing are all kind of meeting at the
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same at the same time. Would who would you you know,
if you're a Cowboy fan, I think you probably overrate
Tony Romo. If you're not a Cowboy fan, you probably
underrat him. I've always that he's the Philip Rivers of
the Philip Rivers and the Tony Romo the West Coast.
They were, you know, never won the big games, but
always had great stats and you would want them on
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your team. And you know, Dak hasn't won the big
games either. But something about him this year, not the
team necessarily, but him looks and feels different than it
has in the past. But at this point in his career,
how would you rank him compared to Tony?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Just for fun?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Hey, you know, I'm I'm never I'm not a fence
rider like I'm I'm I'm black or white, But boy,
the trajectory is looking the same, Like it's looking very similar.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
To Tony's Tony's winning record was seventy eight and forty
nine dak sas seventy eight, forty eight and one.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Whoa tie is a positive?
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Whoa How crazy is that.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
They're both.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Uniquely good at what they do because they were different
totally different quarterback Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Like totally different quarterbacks. I enjoyed the elusiveness and sometimes
the gunslinger in Tony Romo. At the end of Tony
Romo's career, his last couple of years, Tony was calling
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about sixty five percent of the place from the lone
of scrimmage like whatever was whenever Jason Garrett was sending in,
he was changing out the line of scrimmage like he
was Yeah, like he was on that. Yeah. I think
it's it's uncommon in today's era of football. I think
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the the old school mental aspect of quarterbacking. When you
talk about the Breezes, the Philip Rivers, the Maddie and
the Brady Brady's and all those guys, those guys who
came up and through that era, you were you were
forced to be able to go out there and be
a coach on the field like it was. It was.
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It was a prerequisite to play the position now in
today's football, not saying that guys don't don't call it
into a lot of scrimmage, but your coordinators nowadays are
doing more of the deciphering the defense and where you're
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supposed to go with the ball by dictating it through
how they do motions and setups and things of that nature.
Like like Tony would break the huddle, get to a
lot of scrimmage and go, oh, it's not gonna work
like this whole thing. Scrap it. We're going to this
over here. Now more so than ever, you'll hear offenses
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will come out and they like, all right, I know
when we are in this formation and we do this motion,
they're going to go to that coverage. So when they
do that, ball should go right there, like don't don't,
don't think about it, take the profit right there.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
And so the.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Quarterbacks now are less they're they're they're less knowledgeable at
the line of scrimmage. You have some teams in the
league where some quarterbacks where they're center, we're calling.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Some of the checks.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And some of the changes, you know what I mean,
Like so like, and and those guys learn the game differently.
They had time to kind of sit and mature for
two and three years. These guys nowadays, it's like you
got to come in today and be ready to go.
And the college game has changed. There's more guys are
doing one word things in colleges Now you don't have
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to really decipher plays and all that kind of stuff.
So they're different, but their trajectory is the same. Part
of part of it probably being because of the organization
from top and how it assembles teams, which leads to
it to be very similar to what these guys are.
Both of these guys are. Both of these guys were picks,
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one being a free agent, one being a fourth or
fifth round pick, and not really expected to be the guy.
Neither one of these guys were like brought in was
like you're going to be the guy. You're going to
be the guy. It was more so it fell into
their lap and then they had to grow into this
position and grow into being a guy. So I don't
know who's better or who's not better. I can tell
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you for sure that's probably a head and head over
heels better leader. Than Tony was how he gets interact
with the guys and talks to the guys, and then
than Tony was Tony was very isolated and insulated with
the guys that his crew, and you know, the locker
rooms at that time when I was a part of
it was an older locker room, so you didn't kind
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of I didn't need I didn't need to be a friend.
I didn't need to be invited to all your parties
and birthdays and dinners and all that kind of stuff.
It was an older group. So it's just different. But
I mean, you can't go wrong with either one of them.
Neither one of them has won the big Game, neither
one of them have had playoff success. They'll give you
what they'll give you in the regular season. Listen, Uh,
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I don't know what is it? What did they say?
Two dozen? One hand? What that term goes doesn't in
one hand? Half another?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Whatever? How would that go?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Then the other? Yeah, I feel how you feel. You
got team Tony Romo, you got team Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well you think, Kurt, you cover both of them?
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Yeah, I agree with a lot what you said there.
I think the leadership thing is vastly different. But they're
just Tony is more of a gun slinger, flinging around
a little bit, which is both good and bad. Where
dak Is, you know, maybe a little more cerebral in
some way, but in the end they have the same.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
On the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And yeah, Nate as a as a Cowboy fan, which
which one have you enjoyed watching the most?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Troy somehow, some way out of his mouth.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Don't matter no more.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It don't matter, baby, who's the second best, Roger, who's
the third best?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
It don't matter, y'all ain't won nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And and ultimately, barring any health uh end or injury,
that's gonna pass all of them. He's going to pass
Roger and Tony and and and Troy. Yeah, in the
in the numbers categories. But again that's that's good for
his ledger. When he's all sat and down, he can
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tell his kids, I'm the all time leading passer touchdown
Cowboy history, and that's great. But we all know what
it's what really matters because we won't know, like nobody
knows where Troy Aikman is at in the in.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
The how many Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
We don't know Troy, how many touchdowns Troy has, how
many completions he at? What is the completion of percentage?
Speaker 6 (30:16):
What was this?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
What was that? What do we know? It's super Bowl.
He's called back three super Bowl teams, and that trumps
everything that is. That is, that's big joker. Slimming down
on the table trumps everything that you do. We don't.
I don't know where Roger Stalback is at in the
the ledger.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Nobody knows, right like, nobody cares. Nobody cares because all
they when Troy walks in, everybody goes. They bow, and
it doesn't matter whether he's fifth, sixth, seventh, twelfth in
yards or touchdowns or completions whatever. When he walks in
the room, they bow. They all bow. Why he got
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three of them things.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
He's a winner.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
He got three of them things. You don't have to walk.
They don't, they don't. Nobody never announces, you know, Troy Aikman,
What a great leader he was, Treyman ten thousand yards,
you know, one hundred thousand yards passing, Troy Aikman, two
million touchdown No, no, never ever, they never do. They
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go Troy Aikman, three time Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer.
That's it.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
So that's what's gonna make Eli first ballot.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
He ain't gonna be first ballot. He ain't gonna be first.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's gonna be an interesting Hall of Fame year.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
They'll get in.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
He'll get in. You can't. You got two super bowls.
They're gonna put this some dudes. You look, yeah, you
look at the names. He got two super Bowls. He'll
get in eventually, but first ballot.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Now, yeah, this year is gonna be interesting. There's some
there's some good name.
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Finished year.
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Speaker 3 (35:24):
We were continuing the the dak Tony debate in the
in the break and Nate said he was going to
tell us what Troy had that those two guys don't have.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
But what get along? Nate?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
What when you have had teams that have been set
up to make the move and to make the run,
only two things can hold you back. You don't have
enough focus players. Now you may have a talent, but
you don't have enough focused players. Are the coach didn't
(36:02):
set you right. The coach did not set you right.
The Cowboys have had some teams that I thought fourteens
and fifteen there. I don't know where they've had that talent.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
It either through the preparation.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Lebron James has this thing where he say, you know
he would be playing during the season. Same with Michael Jordan,
and they were like, oh, they lost that game, but
the coach had, hey, look at here, remember that feeling,
and he'll take them during the week. He'll take them
back over that this is where we went wrong at
when this comes back up again.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
We will be ready.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's the preparation, and then you got to have enough guys.
We always talk about Tony and Dak, but I've never
seen them put enough dogs on defense. For Dak, I've
never seen them have two legit bulldoll receivers. We had
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a Mauri he disappeared, that left CD Lamb. Then we
got our tight ends just coming into play. We get
a decent tight end that goes he's down with the Texans.
You when you have that quarterback that you think can
light it up, you got to give everything to him
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and give him everything he needs at that because it
ain't but a two or three winner in today's NFL.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
It ain't no three, four or five.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's so one or two year window that you're gonna
have to be very special. Now, if we're talking about
the Mahomes, you see where he's at this year. It's
gonna eventually wean off because the players are not there.
We know who Andy Reid is, we know who Mahomes is,
but they've been trying to get that receiver. They've won
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by running the ball, They've run by playing great defense
a super Bowl. But since that first one with Mahomes
just lit it up, it ain't happened no more. This
league is just too devastating, and the coaches are too good,
and the players on the other team are too good,
when you become the hunted. So when I look at
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when I like, the best chance I think the Cowboys
had with Dak was two years ago when they let
Green Bay come in here and just run the ball.
I'm not saying they would have went to the Super Bowl,
but that was the best chance for them to get
to the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
They blew that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Do we blame that on the coach or do we
blame it on the players? But somewhere in there that happened.
That was their best chance. Now, remember that year they
went twelve or thirteen wins. I can't think what year was,
twenty fourteen or whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Sixteen, Yeah, three.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
When you let when you let New York coming here
and just beat you to death with with just a
bunch of pass rushers on defense. You let him that
was your chance. I don't know if it was preparations
with the coach. I don't know if the player. It
was too big for the players, But you played enough
games that year to have accumulated experience and knowledge. I'm
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telling you, Michael Irvin, that look you're talking about with
Kobe and George Troy didn't have to have that look because.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Michael Irvin had that look.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Eric William had that look, Tony Tobert had that look,
Charles Haley had that look, Darren Woodson had that look.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
No, we done came too far. We don't experience too much.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
That is why I think when you have a elite quarterback,
well then I ain't talking about athletic wise. I'm talking
with the ability to throw, to connect his brain to
that ball in his hands.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
You got to have sensing. That is a I feel
for this kid.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
He got y'all to a Super Bowl, and how did
you repay him by making his offensive line worse?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
You can't do that.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So great great stuff, Nate.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Question for you guys knowing and I've been against this
all along until y'all I think y'all might have just
talked me into something that I said they shouldn't do,
but knowing how hard it is to get to this point, right,
Dak's looking great. It's only what four five games in?
(40:38):
He looks great. If they keep playing like this, knowing
you guys know how it is you're want injury away
from it's over right, Knowing you're playing like this, knowing
how good the offense is, Knowing you've got two really
good wide receivers, you got.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Finally have a running game.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It looks like your offensive line is there, your tight
ends coming into play, offense, all the boxes are checked, right,
Would you spend some of this draft capital knowing like
like you said, the window is maybe two years this
year and maybe next year.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Because if you're if you're if you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Draft and you're gonna invest in that, that's you're on
the back side of that's window. Contract wise, you know,
age wise, If you all know what a difference maker
on defense can make, get somebody off on the defensive line,
get you a lot.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I know we're more than one.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Or two players away, But would you spend some of
that capital and take a chance and go, you know what?
This the way this offense is playing five games in
if they keep this up, this is gonna be our
best shot in the next four years other than actually
real dealting.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It is in November the fourth, right, yes, yeah, so
you got several games you can play to see if
this can maintain. So when is that November? Who?
Speaker 6 (42:00):
How many more games? Would that be?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Three more games that we have played counting this week?
Count this week?
Speaker 4 (42:05):
So for counting this week?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, So I'm throwing this to you first, Jess, would
you because me.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
I've been against it.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
But as we talk about this, I'm like, you know what,
this may be your best shot.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
I don't. I don't. They got they got to win.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
It can't be a close and a maybe they have
to win for me to even think about giving up
a fourth.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
I'm just telling you about me.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
But Jesse, I mean you, you're a little more levelheaded
than me, because I get like a mule.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
I don't want to hear.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
So I said this a week or two ago. If
we get to the trade deadline and this team is,
how many games would have played by them?
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Ten were for more before November fourth.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
So if this team is let's just say this team
is six two and one. I'm spending go get it because.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
This league is so unpredictable. If my quarterback is healthy
and we're six too and one, nine games, but yeah,
so six two and one, Yeah, yep, yep. If we're
six too and one at that point in time, I'm spending.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
That means your defense has gotten better too.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
I'm spending because.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
You're spending all on defense.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good offensively, Yeah, I'm clearly. We
said if my quarterback.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Is healthy, not two wide receiver and we're six too and.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
One, I'm I'm going I'm going like, uh like my
boys snead in the rams f these picks.
Speaker 9 (43:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
See see the show, the show before us, which I
won't call any names due to the tension.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
The show before Us. You gotta call names. You just
told them who it was.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
That show.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, but you know, I'm adamant man is.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
I don't know why man football is a Stephen said that.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Steven says, it's a three hundred and sixty five day
a year.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
What you're saying, And I agree that. I believe that
it ain't no three year window no more. It's one
of two years. And you either make it happen money
you don't.
Speaker 9 (44:26):
In your drafts, even if you use those picks getting
and I just git somebody, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And what got me to change my mind or my
stance on this is I don't want to see two
really good quarterbacks on the verge of greatness their careers
get wasted because you didn't go all in one of
these years and go do it like I don't.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Want to see.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
But history will tell you that's not this ownership, right,
that's not that's not who they are. I mean, the
greatest I guess trade they've made in the last twenty
years was Amar. They gave me a first for Mari
when they thought coming into that year. I don't know
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who the hell convinced them that wide receiver by committee
was gonna be a thing. I don't know who thought
that idea was great. I don't know who who was
that prince, the wide receiver coach. I don't know how
he convinced. I don't know how he convinced they'll do
the Like now I'm telling you, we got we got,
we got Alan Hearn, we got like we got Wait
wait a minute, like this is this is the players
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league now with this committee thing that don't that don't
work not a skill position you need you need guys.
But other than that, it was it's like Donathan Hankins,
it's mingo. It's I mean names that we look at
and we go okay, but a huge impact, not not
not game changing, not even not even really moved a needle.
Speaker 9 (45:57):
I would even considered even if they're not six, two
and one on or whatever. I mean, because you're like
you said, we've got a year or two now, maybe
you make that deal now for you know, stud defensive guy,
because better than what.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
You get, what would you do?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Would you hold on?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Because I've been to like, don't give that. You got
a lot of draft picks that's built for the future.
But I'm like, man, let's now.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I gotta see a couple more games. Yeah, I gotta
see a couple of revisiting two and one. I used
it like because curse, like do it.
Speaker 9 (46:25):
Now now for next year even I mean, you're gonna
get a stud now that can help you next year.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
You'll bring you in now instead of wasting half the years, or.
Speaker 9 (46:35):
You're gonna spend it on a draft pick that's an unknown.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
If I see, that's where it gets because what we
currently sit today and now football is a week to
week league is a fluid situation. We can change our
thoughts and our ideas week to week to week, but
show but.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
The only way we're gonna change is from what we see.
Speaker 9 (46:55):
Right, and we've got three defensive ends who are all
second round picks. So maybe we need to spend high
draft capital. Maybe we need to spend that on trades
for guys we know are good instead of boy.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
It showed this conversation would feel a lot different if
we didn't have to trade to go get up.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
I never said that's a conversation.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
But where it's a dude out there, but do you
want it? We had him now Will now Will. He's
out there, Wilkins. We can say his name, right, Wilkins,
the guy from the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
We don't want him. That's a little to you need
a younger guy's situation. I'm not trying to.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Like that.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
That's that's the kind.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Of guy who would come into this organization and you
said you need focused dudes. He's not a focus dude
to me. He won't be a dude that will come
in and get and and and be like hey grab
a guy, like let's come on, you need a guy.
You know, yeah, like he gonna be.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
He gonna be, but you're talking about spend in the Capitol.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
He gonna be at the candle room. Is that it's
still open?
Speaker 11 (47:58):
I doubt it, but you you know what I mean,
like that was the joint.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
He gonna be, he gonna be uptown. Yeah, No, I'm
good on him. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'm just saying, all right, man, this is you know what,
This is a hell of a lot funner conversation than
we were having after week two.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Should we go all in?
Speaker 13 (48:15):
Because week two we were like, get rid of everybody,
rebuild all right, fellas, good stuff today, Jesse, Nate, get along,
get along, Sir Kurt, good seeing you fix that computer.
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Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh Stays
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You know what's so amazing. I used to be the
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My goal whenever I met a person, I would find
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and then everything they said I didn't agree with, I
would just use it against them. Now, in my later years,
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in the world.
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I mean complicated, I mean wow, think.
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Yeah, those names will remains, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, do not want no problems, man, I get along
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Just go to that wide shot.
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Trouble maker. Whoa bet your bottom with Kurt on the
groove and something? He just okay, all right, let's see tomorrow.
That was good. I'm gonna get my Carolina thing quick.
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Let me just get that out right. The Carolina Panthers
would give you their best game at home. On the road,
they are a different team. At home, you're gonna get
their best game. Check out the records, check out the stats.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
What you know? Yeah they two and oh, I mean
they beat the breaks.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Off of Atlanta and they they came back from down
and got Miami. I'm not saying these are two great teams.
I'm just saying they play harder at home. They go
on the road, they don't play us with everything it's
predicated off of their defense. They run a reduced look.
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There they are three four guy. They have a guy
over the tackles, a down line over the tackles, and
a nose guard. That is the original and four linebackers.
That's the original three to four, but now everything is
a reduced look to the strength to the wide side
of the field. That means that one of those tackles
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are gonna move over the guard and the outside linebacker
is gonna come from his original position and get over
the defensive or get over the tackle are the end
depending on what they're running and if it's the white
side of the field, they don't run a lot of games.
I saw against they got the A and B gaps.
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But I saw against New England they rushed one time
into the A and B gaps. Jess may have seen more.
But normally they'll get in there and they'll get out
of there because they have their five guys who they
like to rush and then that can be number ninety
five Derrick Brown. That can be a Shawn Robinson number
ninet eighty four, that can be I ain't seen much
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of ninety nine, but Patrick Jones ninety one. They got
a plethora of guys that they wi he'll try.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
To get after you. But Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Scarton number eleven is I'm saying that right, he's a
second round pick. Jess Scarton is. I'm saying that right.
Sc Scrouton, scrouton, Nick Scrouton.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
He'll get a lot of rush. He'll get a lot
of play. The DJ one of them, he'll get a
lot of play. They just they are.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The type of team that when they're home, their defensive
lineman seem to make a lot of plays. I like
their linebackers. I like number fifty six Christen Rosenboom and
number thirty two Trevor Wallace. These guys can run and
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when they're in that reduced look, their linebackers make the adjustments.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
When they get a lot of motion. I see their
linebackers move to make the jests. That's number fifty fifty
six Christian.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And in number thirty two Trevor Is I.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Pronounce that right Trayvon t r Travan.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Travan t Yes, Travan Wall, these guys, I think the
head coach, Dave Canalis, he's having the same problem that
we the Cowboys, the Jets and the Bears, trying to
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get their guys to play with consistency because.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
They're big dog.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
H Brown, Dereck Brown is number ninety five. That's their
big dog. He is a good player, he's a solid player,
but he's not an all the time player.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
He's got the ability. He's one of them few dudes.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
That can just mess around, jack around and still wind
up in the right place. I hate guys like that.
I hate guys that in first gear they can kind
of get you. Second gear, they gonna definitely get you.
In third gear, you ain't got a chance. You know
what I'm saying. He's that guy.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
But you never know what gear you're getting.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
You never know what gear you got, so you got
to stay full twenty seven, you know, alert and the secondary.
I can't figure out. I mean I can't. I can't
because these guys are so locked in when they're home,
and it ain't like you can't run on them. It
ain't like you can't pass on them. But as the
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game go on, they seem to play hard and hard
and hard at home and they wind up with a victory.
And their defense they have a lot of third down situations.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
They get off the field.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
They get off the field, like against Miami, they got
off the field in the second half against some even
when they went on the road against your boys, the
New England Patriot of color of your boys, because you've
seen it Byron so much. Uh, they were three for nine.
They'll get, they will get. They can get off the field.
But that thing we're gonna talk about tomorrow is the
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reason they can't.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Stay off the field.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But hey, that's all I got to say, because I
made a promise to myself when you sorry, I'm gonna
quit coming in and saying we got the drugs. So
because right now I feel like some people feel that
about our defense, Yeah, they got the drugs. So we're
gonna fix this this week. So until we improve ourselves,
I'm gonna quit throwing darts. I'm gonna be like Coach
(08:38):
Belichick used to be, speaking on about yourself to be.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Just go to finish it up.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Baby. You know a lot of what you said is
absolutely true. They don't do. Last year, this defense was
the worst defense in the National Football League. And to
Nick's point, I think what they're looking to do is,
let's just be where we're supposed to be, right like,
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let's play with great effort, and they play with great
effort upfront. Let's just be where we're supposed to be.
We're not gonna trick this thing up. We're not gonna
give you all these exotic looks and all that. So
they're very similar to what the Cowboys are this year. Defensively,
it's our looks up front will be very basic. They're
not blitzing much. They they want to. They do a
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really good job I think upfront with you know, getting
off the ball, and then you're using their eyes with
vision right getting off the ball, pressing their pressing their blocks,
but also being able to kind of steal find the ball.
You'll get some juice off the edge from three, uh,
from eleven, and then every now and again they'll send
they'll send the linebacker, but they don't do a lot
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of blitzing.
Speaker 8 (09:53):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
They're gonna play a lot of zone covers on the
back end. You know what they what they have and
J C. Horn that that cornerback out there. This is
one of those games where you know the Cowboys offensively.
I tweeted about it earlier. I said, you know, Jake Ferguson,
come on down. This is your week to have a
day you know, like this is this is your week
where you should be able to kill them well because
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the middle of the field is open. Yes, the middle
of the field you can you can eat because they're
playing this shell coverage, they're playing a lot of zone coverage.
Their linebackers don't drop very deep. So there is that
that that that throw that Dak love, that seam throw,
some of those some of the some of the option
routes where you're bending that with the tight end. So
there's a lot of that that's available behind that defense,
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especially using the play action as well. The Cowboys have
used the play action pass this year. Again, this is
this is the team who give great effort at home.
Nate's spot on with that. They don't do much like
they're They're not out there where you're confused, and that's
that's in it. I think today where we where we
currently sit, that's an advantage shot him or Dak because
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he can come to the line of scrimmage. They're gonna
be basically what they're in. What they're in. Again, they'll
shift some a little bit, but it's not like, you know,
a guy is standing down in the box and at
the snap he's running to the deep third right or
to the middle of the field. It's not a lot
of that. It's basically, we want to be where we're
supposed to be. We'll rally to the football and we'll
play the percentages, we'll play the we'll play the part
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of you we you know, you you go one on
one with Derrick Brown and he beats you. Now he
gets a pressure and he gets a sack, or he
hurries to throw or you know, just stuff like that.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Just defense a lot like the Cowboys and sounds it
is if so, is it better or worse?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I think their defensive line is better than ours. Really,
you know, I don't know about their secondary because like
I said that, I don't know, because but I do
know if I can get to it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's very similar to the Cowboys.
And I would, like I said, I would give their
front a slight edge because of Derek Brown. I think
he's the he's the difference maker. Across that front, and
they do have a nice rotation. It feels like if
they got a ninety number there in that rotation, ninety
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eight like all nineties.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
So the one that's not the number eleven.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, yes, and they'll have three come off the edge
sometimes too. So like those guys coming off the edge
is like I said that, though there is it, there
wasn't a lot. When you watch them, you're like, oh man,
watch out for this, watch out for that, watch out
for this, watch out for that. They they line up
and they go play football. They don't have a lot
of They don't have to me, they don't have a
lot of plus players. They don't have a lot of
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guys in their defense that.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Again they have.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
I think Derek Brown is a good enough player to
Na's point, where he's a guy that at any given
time can create havoc.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Yes, it's be a little tougher game for bad and Hoffman.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
They're gonna be challenged, like because he I think that
Derrick Brown falls in that conversation and I'm not in
no particular order right, but when you start talking about
defensive lineman, he's in that conversation with the sexy dexy
the Jeffrey Simmons, the Chris Jones. And I'm not I'm
not saying that in order to that, but like if
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you're talking about defensive tackles, he gets spoken about with
those guys, you know what I mean, Like he gets
spoken about where you need to kind of pay a
little bit of attention to him double them. You know,
a lot of the time when you can, you don't
want to let him, you know, you don't want to
let him get going. You kind of want to, like,
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let's keep him at bay and we'll deal with the
rest of the dudes, because if he gets going, then
he can be a guy that can really like I said,
And and he's coming from the middle, so to that
pocket is collapsing, and what Dak is doing so well
right now, man, is just he is maneuvering in that
pocket so well. He's you'll hell shot and him and
talk about it. When that backfoot hits at the top
of his drop. He's so confident, he's so direct, he's
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so deliberate that you don't want to interrupt that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
And it would have been nice to have then the
Cowboys ask for him in a possible.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, that would have been nice thing that you see.
They said, no, you.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Know the thing that he don't do that. I'm glad
and I hope nobody don't try to text him and
tell it. I'll set it off there. I don't even
about know that he don't.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, I don't want nobody to be like, you know,
telling him. But anyway, man, don't you we have seen
the Bears, the Jets in now Carolina, how teams are
trying to We're not gonna trick you up. We're gonna
make sure they're dedicating this at least his first part
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of the season, to make sure that players know where
to be, know what to do.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I think that that comes to the the lesser talented,
whether you want to admit it or not. Building football teams. Yes,
they're still trying to find guys to put in these
places and pieces. Of course, we don't use that word
here in Dallas, even when that's summertimes. What it feels
like our word yeah, and but but like like you know,
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Chicago and like the Panthers, they're they're trying to find
their way. The good teams, the veteran teams who've been
together and have those talented players on each level, they're
able to do these different things. The defensive coordinators are
season so they're able to do a lot of what
you want to have that level of confusion because in
this league, when you go up against a guy like
Dak Prescott, who is playing at a supremely high confident
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level right now year ten for him, if you line
up and you just stay to where you stay, are
you in for a long day? Because he's he's playing
the game cerebraly right now, like he's playing it so
much from shoulders up and then letting this what he
his talent take over. But it's it's mental when he
walks into the line of scrimmage and he's like, boom
boom boom, boom boom, I know where to go with
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the ball, and I'm going right now. There isn't a
level of where he's looking and he goes, what is
that coverage? You're not gonna get that against? Like Dak
won't walk to the line very much this game. Now,
everybody brings in a different game plan each and every week,
but I like to believe for what I saw that
Dak won't walk to the line against this defense. This
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weekend in Carolina and go, what what are they doing?
Like he will he won't be tricked by a coverage.
He may miss it throw of course right like he
may be like, ah, I thought I had it, you know,
came out my hand wrong, or I overshot it or whatever.
But it won't it won't be to the fact of
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how they got me on that one that that was
the one where they I thought it was a two
it would turn out to be three, or it was
three it came out to be one. And so because
they don't, they don't. They don't give you these exotic looks.
You're not gonna have six guys standing up around the
line of scrimmage and you know, are they rushing all six?
They dropping five? Like who's coming? Like where they're coming from?
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You know, not too many cat blitzeres. It's off the
slot stuff like that. So they're not giving you that
many looks. And I can say that today and then
all of a sudden they're like, oh, it's a different look.
But I'm gonna tell you what I saw from what
I watched leading up to this game. But there is
a level of because these teams have played three years
in a Row. So there's some familiar familiarity with the Cowboys,
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and this is always a factor. This is always a factor.
What we say a guy like Derek Brown is or
these other guys is to play they play with good effort.
I will say that they play.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
With good they play with good effort.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Cowboys come into town. This is homecoming, like this is,
this is, this is I don't care what time the
game is. It's prime time, right, all the fans show up,
whether they cowboy fans or pants.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Ain't NASCAR season either, Yeah, ain't.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Uh, it ain't no good football games going down to
Capitol Hill. So people like people ain't how about too
late on Saturday? Not not the game on Sunday, But but
your whatever effort that they normally give, it's probably gonna
be cranked up another level because of who they're playing,
you know what I mean. And so yeah, but there's
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nothing about this Panthers defense that I look at. Hear
my words, Terry b No, but there's nothing about this
I look at it, and I'm like, yeah, we should
have to focus on that, worry on that, like.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Go out and play and don't make a lot of
don't do a lot of dumb penalties.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
If I was getting ready to say, if the Cowboys
are struggling offensively against this defense, it's self inflicted. It's
self inflicted.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Dak has now started as many games as Tony Romo.
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Let's jump into Little Cowboys offense. And what better place.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
To start than a good old quarterback comparison. We all
love that, don't We About to make some folks, especially
when someone in the room played.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
With one of the quarterbacks we'll talk about.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, Dak Prescott has now started just as many games
as Tony Romo at one hundred and twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Their numbers are similar.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Romo has more yards and touchdowns, but Dak has a
higher completion percentage and passer rating with fewer interceptions and Jesse,
you know you played with Tony.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Not many quarterbacks ever.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Could analyze and dissect a defense as good as Tony
as far as coverages and where to go with the
ball and where it was going. Dak this year has
become that guy you talked about almost every show, Like,
you know, the maturity level, the physical traits and then
the mental thing are all kind of meeting at the
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same at the same time. Would who would you you know,
if you're a Cowboy fan, I think you probably overrate
Tony Romo. If you're not a Cowboy fan, you probably
underrat him. I've always that he's the Philip Rivers of
the Philip Rivers and the Tony Romo the West Coast.
They were, you know, never won the big games, but
always had great stats and you would want them on
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your team. And you know, Dak hasn't won the big
games either. But something about him this year, not the
team necessarily, but him looks and feels different than it
has in the past. But at this point in his career,
how would you rank him compared to Tony?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Just for fun?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Hey, you know, I'm I'm never I'm not a fence
rider like I'm I'm I'm black or white, But boy,
the trajectory is looking the same, Like it's looking very similar.
Speaker 9 (23:41):
To Tony's Tony's winning record was seventy eight and forty
nine dak sas seventy eight, forty eight and one.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Whoa tie is a positive?
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Whoa How crazy is that.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
They're both.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Uniquely good at what they do because they were different
totally different quarterback Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Like totally different quarterbacks. I enjoyed the elusiveness and sometimes
the gunslinger in Tony Romo. At the end of Tony
Romo's career, his last couple of years, Tony was calling
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about sixty five percent of the place from the lone
of scrimmage like whatever was whenever Jason Garrett was sending in,
he was changing out the line of scrimmage like he
was Yeah, like he was on that. Yeah. I think
it's it's uncommon in today's era of football. I think
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the the old school mental aspect of quarterbacking. When you
talk about the Breezes, the Philip Rivers, the Maddie and
the Brady Brady's and all those guys, those guys who
came up and through that era, you were you were
forced to be able to go out there and be
a coach on the field like it was. It was.
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It was a prerequisite to play the position now in
today's football, not saying that guys don't don't call it
into a lot of scrimmage, but your coordinators nowadays are
doing more of the deciphering the defense and where you're
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supposed to go with the ball by dictating it through
how they do motions and setups and things of that nature.
Like like Tony would break the huddle, get to a
lot of scrimmage and go, oh, it's not gonna work
like this whole thing. Scrap it. We're going to this
over here. Now more so than ever, you'll hear offenses
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will come out and they like, all right, I know
when we are in this formation and we do this motion,
they're going to go to that coverage. So when they
do that, ball should go right there, like don't don't,
don't think about it, take the profit right there.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
And so the.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Quarterbacks now are less they're they're they're less knowledgeable at
the line of scrimmage. You have some teams in the
league where some quarterbacks where they're center, we're calling.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Some of the checks.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And some of the changes, you know what I mean,
Like so like, and and those guys learn the game differently.
They had time to kind of sit and mature for
two and three years. These guys nowadays, it's like you
got to come in today and be ready to go.
And the college game has changed. There's more guys are
doing one word things in colleges Now you don't have
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to really decipher plays and all that kind of stuff.
So they're different, but their trajectory is the same. Part
of part of it probably being because of the organization
from top and how it assembles teams, which leads to
it to be very similar to what these guys are.
Both of these guys are. Both of these guys were picks,
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one being a free agent, one being a fourth or
fifth round pick, and not really expected to be the guy.
Neither one of these guys were like brought in was
like you're going to be the guy. You're going to
be the guy. It was more so it fell into
their lap and then they had to grow into this
position and grow into being a guy. So I don't
know who's better or who's not better. I can tell
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you for sure that's probably a head and head over
heels better leader. Than Tony was how he gets interact
with the guys and talks to the guys, and then
than Tony was Tony was very isolated and insulated with
the guys that his crew, and you know, the locker
rooms at that time when I was a part of
it was an older locker room, so you didn't kind
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of I didn't need I didn't need to be a friend.
I didn't need to be invited to all your parties
and birthdays and dinners and all that kind of stuff.
It was an older group. So it's just different. But
I mean, you can't go wrong with either one of them.
Neither one of them has won the big Game, neither
one of them have had playoff success. They'll give you
what they'll give you in the regular season. Listen, Uh,
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I don't know what is it? What did they say?
Two dozen? One hand? What that term goes doesn't in
one hand? Half another?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Whatever? How would that go?
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Then the other? Yeah, I feel how you feel. You
got team Tony Romo, you got team Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well you think, Kurt, you cover both of them?
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Yeah, I agree with a lot what you said there.
I think the leadership thing is vastly different. But they're
just Tony is more of a gun slinger, flinging around
a little bit, which is both good and bad. Where
dak Is, you know, maybe a little more cerebral in
some way, but in the end they have the same.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
On the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And yeah, Nate as a as a Cowboy fan, which
which one have you enjoyed watching the most?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Troy somehow, some way out of his mouth.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Don't matter no more.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
It don't matter, baby, who's the second best, Roger, who's
the third best?
Speaker 6 (29:26):
It don't matter, y'all ain't won nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
And and ultimately, barring any health uh end or injury,
that's gonna pass all of them. He's going to pass
Roger and Tony and and and Troy. Yeah, in the
in the numbers categories. But again that's that's good for
his ledger. When he's all sat and down, he can
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tell his kids, I'm the all time leading passer touchdown
Cowboy history, and that's great. But we all know what
it's what really matters because we won't know, like nobody
knows where Troy Aikman is at in the in.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
The how many Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
We don't know Troy, how many touchdowns Troy has, how
many completions he at? What is the completion of percentage?
Speaker 6 (30:16):
What was this?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
What was that? What do we know? It's super Bowl.
He's called back three super Bowl teams, and that trumps
everything that is. That is, that's big joker. Slimming down
on the table trumps everything that you do. We don't.
I don't know where Roger Stalback is at in the
the ledger.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Nobody knows, right like, nobody cares. Nobody cares because all
they when Troy walks in, everybody goes. They bow, and
it doesn't matter whether he's fifth, sixth, seventh, twelfth in
yards or touchdowns or completions whatever. When he walks in
the room, they bow. They all bow. Why he got
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three of them things.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
He's a winner.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
He got three of them things. You don't have to walk.
They don't, they don't. Nobody never announces, you know, Troy Aikman,
What a great leader he was, Treyman ten thousand yards,
you know, one hundred thousand yards passing, Troy Aikman, two
million touchdown No, no, never ever, they never do. They
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go Troy Aikman, three time Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer.
That's it.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
So that's what's gonna make Eli first ballot.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
He ain't gonna be first ballot. He ain't gonna be first.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's gonna be an interesting Hall of Fame year.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
They'll get in.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
He'll get in. You can't. You got two super bowls.
They're gonna put this some dudes. You look, yeah, you
look at the names. He got two super Bowls. He'll
get in eventually, but first ballot.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Now, yeah, this year is gonna be interesting. There's some
there's some good name.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Finished year.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
All right, let's take our second break, last break. When
we come back, who knows where we'll go?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Cowboys offense. You're talking about Cowboys offense.
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You know Black Shannon Gambler help from a what colony penal?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
We were continuing the the dak Tony debate in the
in the break and Nate said he was going to
tell us what Troy had that those two guys don't have.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
But what get along? Nate?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
What when you have had teams that have been set
up to make the move and to make the run,
only two things can hold you back. You don't have
enough focus players. Now you may have a talent, but
you don't have enough focused players. Are the coach didn't
(36:02):
set you right. The coach did not set you right.
The Cowboys have had some teams that I thought fourteens
and fifteen there. I don't know where they've had that talent.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
It either through the preparation.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Lebron James has this thing where he say, you know
he would be playing during the season. Same with Michael Jordan,
and they were like, oh, they lost that game, but
the coach had, hey, look at here, remember that feeling,
and he'll take them during the week. He'll take them
back over that this is where we went wrong at
when this comes back up again.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
We will be ready.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's the preparation, and then you got to have enough guys.
We always talk about Tony and Dak, but I've never
seen them put enough dogs on defense. For Dak, I've
never seen them have two legit bulldoll receivers. We had
(37:05):
a Mauri he disappeared, that left CD Lamb. Then we
got our tight ends just coming into play. We get
a decent tight end that goes he's down with the Texans.
You when you have that quarterback that you think can
light it up, you got to give everything to him
(37:26):
and give him everything he needs at that because it
ain't but a two or three winner in today's NFL.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
It ain't no three, four or five.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's so one or two year window that you're gonna
have to be very special. Now, if we're talking about
the Mahomes, you see where he's at this year. It's
gonna eventually wean off because the players are not there.
We know who Andy Reid is, we know who Mahomes is,
but they've been trying to get that receiver. They've won
(37:58):
by running the ball, They've run by playing great defense
a super Bowl. But since that first one with Mahomes
just lit it up, it ain't happened no more. This
league is just too devastating, and the coaches are too good,
and the players on the other team are too good,
when you become the hunted. So when I look at
(38:21):
when I like, the best chance I think the Cowboys
had with Dak was two years ago when they let
Green Bay come in here and just run the ball.
I'm not saying they would have went to the Super Bowl,
but that was the best chance for them to get
to the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 6 (38:36):
They blew that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Do we blame that on the coach or do we
blame it on the players? But somewhere in there that happened.
That was their best chance. Now, remember that year they
went twelve or thirteen wins. I can't think what year was,
twenty fourteen or whatever.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Sixteen, Yeah, three.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
When you let when you let New York coming here
and just beat you to death with with just a
bunch of pass rushers on defense. You let him that
was your chance. I don't know if it was preparations
with the coach. I don't know if the player. It
was too big for the players, But you played enough
games that year to have accumulated experience and knowledge. I'm
(39:22):
telling you, Michael Irvin, that look you're talking about with
Kobe and George Troy didn't have to have that look because.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Michael Irvin had that look.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Eric William had that look, Tony Tobert had that look,
Charles Haley had that look, Darren Woodson had that look.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
No, we done came too far. We don't experience too much.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
That is why I think when you have a elite quarterback,
well then I ain't talking about athletic wise. I'm talking
with the ability to throw, to connect his brain to
that ball in his hands.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
You got to have sensing. That is a I feel
for this kid.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
He got y'all to a Super Bowl, and how did
you repay him by making his offensive line worse?
Speaker 6 (40:13):
You can't do that.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So great great stuff, Nate.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Question for you guys knowing and I've been against this
all along until y'all I think y'all might have just
talked me into something that I said they shouldn't do,
but knowing how hard it is to get to this point, right,
Dak's looking great. It's only what four five games in?
(40:38):
He looks great. If they keep playing like this, knowing
you guys know how it is you're want injury away
from it's over right, Knowing you're playing like this, knowing
how good the offense is, Knowing you've got two really
good wide receivers, you got.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Finally have a running game.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It looks like your offensive line is there, your tight
ends coming into play, offense, all the boxes are checked, right,
Would you spend some of this draft capital knowing like
like you said, the window is maybe two years this
year and maybe next year.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
Because if you're if you're if you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Draft and you're gonna invest in that, that's you're on
the back side of that's window. Contract wise, you know,
age wise, If you all know what a difference maker
on defense can make, get somebody off on the defensive line,
get you a lot.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I know we're more than one.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Or two players away, But would you spend some of
that capital and take a chance and go, you know what?
This the way this offense is playing five games in
if they keep this up, this is gonna be our
best shot in the next four years other than actually
real dealting.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It is in November the fourth, right, yes, yeah, so
you got several games you can play to see if
this can maintain. So when is that November? Who?
Speaker 6 (42:00):
How many more games? Would that be?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Three more games that we have played counting this week?
Count this week?
Speaker 4 (42:05):
So for counting this week?
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, So I'm throwing this to you first, Jess, would
you because me.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
I've been against it.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
But as we talk about this, I'm like, you know what,
this may be your best shot.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
I don't. I don't. They got they got to win.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
It can't be a close and a maybe they have
to win for me to even think about giving up
a fourth.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
I'm just telling you about me.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
But Jesse, I mean you, you're a little more levelheaded
than me, because I get like a mule.
Speaker 6 (42:35):
I don't want to hear.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
So I said this a week or two ago. If
we get to the trade deadline and this team is,
how many games would have played by them?
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Ten were for more before November fourth.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
So if this team is let's just say this team
is six two and one. I'm spending go get it because.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
This league is so unpredictable. If my quarterback is healthy
and we're six too and one, nine games, but yeah,
so six two and one, Yeah, yep, yep. If we're
six too and one at that point in time, I'm spending.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
That means your defense has gotten better too.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
I'm spending because.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
You're spending all on defense.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good offensively, Yeah, I'm clearly. We
said if my quarterback.
Speaker 6 (43:33):
Is healthy, not two wide receiver and we're six too and.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
One, I'm I'm going I'm going like, uh like my
boys snead in the rams f these picks.
Speaker 9 (43:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
See see the show, the show before us, which I
won't call any names due to the tension.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
The show before Us. You gotta call names. You just
told them who it was.
Speaker 6 (43:58):
That show.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, but you know, I'm adamant man is.
Speaker 6 (44:05):
I don't know why man football is a Stephen said that.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Steven says, it's a three hundred and sixty five day
a year.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
What you're saying, And I agree that. I believe that
it ain't no three year window no more. It's one
of two years. And you either make it happen money
you don't.
Speaker 9 (44:26):
In your drafts, even if you use those picks getting
and I just git somebody, you know.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
And what got me to change my mind or my
stance on this is I don't want to see two
really good quarterbacks on the verge of greatness their careers
get wasted because you didn't go all in one of
these years and go do it like I don't.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
Want to see.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
But history will tell you that's not this ownership, right,
that's not that's not who they are. I mean, the
greatest I guess trade they've made in the last twenty
years was Amar. They gave me a first for Mari
when they thought coming into that year. I don't know
(45:11):
who the hell convinced them that wide receiver by committee
was gonna be a thing. I don't know who thought
that idea was great. I don't know who who was
that prince, the wide receiver coach. I don't know how
he convinced. I don't know how he convinced they'll do
the Like now I'm telling you, we got we got,
we got Alan Hearn, we got like we got Wait
wait a minute, like this is this is the players
(45:33):
league now with this committee thing that don't that don't
work not a skill position you need you need guys.
But other than that, it was it's like Donathan Hankins,
it's mingo. It's I mean names that we look at
and we go okay, but a huge impact, not not
not game changing, not even not even really moved a needle.
Speaker 9 (45:57):
I would even considered even if they're not six, two
and one on or whatever. I mean, because you're like
you said, we've got a year or two now, maybe
you make that deal now for you know, stud defensive guy,
because better than what.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
You get, what would you do?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Would you hold on?
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Because I've been to like, don't give that. You got
a lot of draft picks that's built for the future.
But I'm like, man, let's now.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I gotta see a couple more games. Yeah, I gotta
see a couple of revisiting two and one. I used
it like because curse, like do it.
Speaker 9 (46:25):
Now now for next year even I mean, you're gonna
get a stud now that can help you next year.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
You'll bring you in now instead of wasting half the years, or.
Speaker 9 (46:35):
You're gonna spend it on a draft pick that's an unknown.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
If I see, that's where it gets because what we
currently sit today and now football is a week to
week league is a fluid situation. We can change our
thoughts and our ideas week to week to week, but
show but.
Speaker 6 (46:52):
The only way we're gonna change is from what we see.
Speaker 9 (46:55):
Right, and we've got three defensive ends who are all
second round picks. So maybe we need to spend high
draft capital. Maybe we need to spend that on trades
for guys we know are good instead of boy.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
It showed this conversation would feel a lot different if
we didn't have to trade to go get up.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
I never said that's a conversation.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
But where it's a dude out there, but do you
want it? We had him now Will now Will. He's
out there, Wilkins. We can say his name, right, Wilkins,
the guy from the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
We don't want him. That's a little to you need
a younger guy's situation. I'm not trying to.
Speaker 7 (47:33):
Like that.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
That's that's the kind.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Of guy who would come into this organization and you
said you need focused dudes. He's not a focus dude
to me. He won't be a dude that will come
in and get and and and be like hey grab
a guy, like let's come on, you need a guy.
You know, yeah, like he gonna be.
Speaker 6 (47:51):
He gonna be, but you're talking about spend in the Capitol.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
He gonna be at the candle room. Is that it's
still open?
Speaker 11 (47:58):
I doubt it, but you you know what I mean,
like that was the joint.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
He gonna be, he gonna be uptown. Yeah, No, I'm
good on him. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'm just saying, all right, man, this is you know what,
This is a hell of a lot funner conversation than
we were having after week two.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
Should we go all in?
Speaker 13 (48:15):
Because week two we were like, get rid of everybody,
rebuild all right, fellas, good stuff today, Jesse, Nate, get along,
get along, Sir Kurt, good seeing you fix that computer.
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh Stays
for keeping him company. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Cowboys Defense Carolina Offenserow, Nate, Nate, Date's go check out tomorrow,
but he'll be here.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
Come watch him. Get along. Nate on Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
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