October 14, 2025 • 48 mins
We’ve been hearing that the pass rush has the potential to be strong, and that there aren't one or two major problems but a lot of little ones that can be fixed. Is that true? Or is that just hope? And what exactly are some of those little problems? Coverage schemes? Gap integrity? Discipline? Accountability? Let’s get in-depth and break it down.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, on Tuesday, thank you.
Speaker 9 (01:38):
I have to see a couple of football games last night,
two Monday night games.
Speaker 10 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:42):
One that has a lot of Cowboys ties to it.
Speaker 8 (01:46):
Which is also another frustrating type situation when you lose
to the Carolina Panthers because you had to Philadelphia Eagles lose.
Then you turn around and have the Washington Commanders lose.
Had you beaten Chicago that no, had you beaten out
the Panthers, you may be finding yourself sitting nice in
the division, but no, you got you got next week
(02:08):
you play the Commanders and if you beat the Commanders,
that puts them at three and four, that puts you
at three three and one. That moves you TLF game baby,
that half second place within the division.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
A half game. Call us a A eight eight five
five two two nine seven.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Eight five five What I say? I don't know what
you said?
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Okay, eight five.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Five five two thank you?
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Call us call us Oh, Kurt, Yes, sir, mister Jones
had a lot to say this morning, didn't he Just
a plethora of information.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
He did want to walk us through the one things.
Speaker 10 (02:45):
The one that got people a little on edge. You
might say it was he made the quote along the
lines of where where the Cowboys are right now? Potentially
the strongest part of the team is the past, rush.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
Lie and I believe you running show says what.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
You know, here's the thing, and we just have to
always remember this factor in it all.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mister Jones.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
His number one thing that he is great at and
I'm this is not even debatable, the best in the
business at this in any sports league, not just the
National Football League, in any sports league NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, MMA, WWF.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
He's the best at selling.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Hope, hope, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
His job every time he steps in front of a microphone,
every time he steps in front of a camera, every
time he is on the radio and or TV, or
if he's in the local.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Delhi is to be selling his football team.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
It is our job as analysts, as panelists, as people
who are delivering the truth to the people, to tell
it what it is. So we have to stop making
this mistake of believing what Jerry is ultimately saying in
(04:27):
these particular moments, because he is doing the absolute thing that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He is supposed to do.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
He is supposed to sell you to come back and
watch his program next week. Same bat station, same bat channel,
same bat time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's what his job is.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
So while you sit here today Sunday during the game,
Monday after the game, and Tuesday, while you sit here
and you go through all of the tape and the
videos and the watching the us and listening to us,
it's his job now to rebrand and rebuild and resell
the hope for next Sunday. Like he's supposed to say that,
(05:12):
Like he's supposed to come out and say that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I think that.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
You know, he hit another quote that he had in
there when he said, Kenny Smith is grading first or
second best on our defense. And to the naked eye,
you go, well, all right, until you look at it,
you go, yeah, for that defense. That defense is terrible
as hell. It's the thirty ninth ranked defense in the
National Football League. So him being the second best, second greatest,
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I don't know, but him being the second greatest highest
ranked defender on the thirty ninth best defense in the
league is like being the tall short person.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Ain't wrong with that.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
Like it's one of those deals where it's like, but
he'll frame it in such a way that you that
people will then go see Kenny Clark, boy glad to
have him to say that you have arguably the best
past rush that you've had.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
I think you called him Kenny Smith, by the way.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Kenny Smith, Kenny Clark. Listen. I'm like, I'm like, Nate,
do something, do something.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I remember your name, Kenny Smith, Kenny Pickett, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Do something.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I'm giving out the wrong phone number.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
And I've never I've never You've never heard anyone miss
quote Emmitt Smith. No one's never miss said Troy Aikman.
No one has ever said Mike Halla Jordan's Nah, you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Do something worth. People remember your name and they won't forget.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
So U unless you make the owner mad and you
become Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well that's just yeah, yeah, he miss passed lots of names.
But yeah, man, you know, if you probably have learned the.
Speaker 11 (06:54):
Maybe we could have got.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
But Jerry, he is doing exactly what he's supposed to do.
It is your job, It is our job, but it's
also your job as the fan base, as people who
are supposed to be rational. And I get it. Fandom
is short for fanatics. So a lot of you are
not rational thinkers when it comes to your football team.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And so when the owner comes out and he says
the thing that he says.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
A lot of you, a ton of you by it,
and for him, he's like great. He finally puts the
right finger up and he goes he goes, great, that's
what I want, and and boy, wee get a week out.
He just keeps at a gentleman that I met a
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couple of weeks ago who was a big Cowboy fan,
and he's like, you know, he's tweeting me early about
the comments that Jerry is making on one of five
to three the Fan, the flagship station for the Cowboys,
And I said, I told him, I said, I met
you you and I had a brief conversation about your fandom.
You told me what you spind he's from New Jersey.
(07:59):
You told me what you spend to come here in
the half season tickets. So I said, I'm not blaming you,
so don't take offense. But he's talking to you, and
he's selling this to you to come back next week.
So when he tells you that this team is we're
right there.
Speaker 11 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
When he tells you that, you know, we knew that
they were going to run the football. But if we
just stop some other plays, some other things will happen
and score more points.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
No, no, no.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
If you knew they were going to run the football,
that should be your focus.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So don't don't. Don't tell me you knew they were
going to run the football.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
But if you did other things that would indicated then
running for almost two hundred yards, that doesn't make any sense.
But you shape it and you sell it and you
package it. I'm not a drinker, but I've heard a
lot of people who get drunk and say, if you
drink enough, any food tastes good. So if I package
it right, you'll need it. If I keep you drunk
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on Hope, did anything taste good? And you'll keep showing
back up every time the dinner bell goes off because
I've gotten you drunk on Hope all week, and you
show back up on Sunday. And what ends up happening
is eventually I make a good meal that you actually like,
and you go, what I was good. I'll come back
(09:19):
next week and I may give you two poopoo meals
the next week, but you don't forget about that one
that I really made. Well, we could go and I can.
I can sell you on that one again. I'll make
that one again. I'll make that one that you really tasted.
You were sober, that one was good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So you come back again and again, and this is
what he does. And so I'm not I'm not mad
at what Jerry says. Say it, Jerry, say all of it.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
That's what you're supposed to do, entertainment.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And by the way, let's be fair, he did have
the right finger up. He just mixed another one in there.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
Okay, you keep spinning that s go look at the video.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
No, he thumbed the guy up and then he pointed
at the other guy and.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Okay, so all right. He said a couple other things too,
before we go to break well, you.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Said that the defensive problems are not one or two
major things. It's a lot of little things that they
need to work out. And then Stephen Jones had actually
said yesterday that the personnel they have the necessary personnel,
it's just those to succeed. But those guys just need
to execute better.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
So I think I would rather have one or two
major things that you could focus on and go, Okay,
this is the problem, let's fix this and this instead
of going, well, this game.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
It was this, this, this, this, this and this and
then but.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Do y'all believe that it's you believe you have the
personnel on this team that that's not the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
My problem be talking about owned it back in or from,
which is one of the I think it's easier to
fix our front end than it is back in.
Speaker 11 (10:55):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I what I saw this past game was uh, just
guys getting out of their gaps. And it was bad.
It was terrible. They were taking time. Now what I
what I am gonna say this? I pushed back, Oh,
oh you can, But I'm gonna tell you what. I
got a number eighty four. I can show you that
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block the number ninety four out of the picture about
three times.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
That was a tight end.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
And so for me, and that's why I say that
it's easier to fix the back end, because.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I can get one.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I can get one really really really good safety and
fix the back end.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You think, So what we're dealing with upfront is that.
That's the main.
Speaker 11 (11:38):
Reason I'm saying that's proud.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That was just one thing that I But if the
guys were just staring there staying their gaps, the guys
were jumping out of their gaps, you know, that's just.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
So that they had the talent and not the execution.
Speaker 11 (11:58):
Like he said, it's the wheel, it's the will.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Like when you're talking about trench like, you're talking about
trench and I'm not a trench guy. Nate lived his
life in the trenches. I'm I'm I'm a diva, right,
I live on the outside.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know what I'm saying. I want my shoes to
be nice and clean, my nails to be clean.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
And my glove to be right. I want all those
stuff to fit. I wasn't a trench guy. Okay, I
don't want no mud dirt.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
You can't be you can't wait.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
You can't be too much of a diva and be
a special teams guy.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Yeah, but you gotta be a little dirty.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And I'm a little dirty, but I'm not. I'm not
I'm not trench dirty.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
You wanted to wash off?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, when I came to wear it.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, with a hand sanitize. I don't want to be
in that thing that that long.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
But when you start talking about trench stuff, man, like,
that's where a lot of will and and and and
personal accountability of just this man ain't gonna move me,
Like this man ain't gonna move me like it's that,
And that's what we're seeing in the trenches with do
would you get dog walked and your second greatest, your
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second highest greatest player got moved, was on the ground repeatedly.
Your guy you just paid and that's why was jumping
gaps getting moved but your draft picks.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But that's walked by tight.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But that's what I'm saying our linebackers, due to the
fact that you're very undisciplined on your defensive line. If
even if I'm getting blocked as you Jesse and Kurt
are coming at me, if I just grabbed tur if
I just wrought while on the ground, I'm gonna get
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Shannon at least a chance to make a play. But
I saw guys not only jump out of their gaps,
but now he didn't. Once it's arm over, y'all. Both
everybody know the arm over. They do it ron and passed.
When you go arm over, you're giving up your gap.
(14:03):
I'm giving up this gap here. But the first thing
I have to do once I let you shoot through
and fall on your face, I gotta replace the dude
armed over and stay where he was and watching number
five just run and the linebacker got killed not by
one guy, but by two guys.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's not right.
Speaker 11 (14:25):
Yeah, that's what's saying in my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
For sure, I'm like, all you.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Gotta do is just do this, But you also have
to you also have linebackers on this team where the
ball is going right and you're drifting left, drifting left,
you got linebackers who are are start side by side
the play starts, they stacked on top of each other.
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At no point in time should your linebackers be playing
anything or they're stacked on each other.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
That special team and gets you all special teams.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Like if you got a gap and I got a gap,
we can't somebody wrong. And now now when you have
this and this, there's a crease, and that's what happened.
That that's what happened. That's what happened Sunday. That's what happened.
So there is a lot of blame that goes around
when we start talking about the defensive woes.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It ain't just scheme ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
On the tape, I'm not I'm not absolving Matt Eberflus
of anything. I'm also saying it ain't all him.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
That kind of seems to be what the front office
is saying.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
It ain't all him but you and and And that's
the part why I kind of when I say I
pushed back on Nate and even on Stephen Jones. You're
not talented enough on this football team.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You're not. You have some talented players, You're not talented
enough on this football team. Not defensively. Not defensively.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Boy, when you look at the film and and number
ninety four, young guy second.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Year, what is his name?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Marsha kneeling, Marsha kneeling. You cannot ever let a tight
end block you. And did not happened once, It happened twice.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Not when you head up like it's one thing.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
If a dude catch you looking not looking, we'll catch
you blindside. Cool, you got me, You got me. But
when I'm looking at you and you looking at me, Wow,
and I just grab you and dog walk you ten
yards back.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And you spend the wrong he spent, He spent out
the wrong way. The dude just ran right up behind him.
I said, I said, that's kind of disheartened. That's why
I'm not gonna argue with you. Your pushback is right. Some
of these things is I'm not gonna let you do.
But some of these things are schematic. No, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 11 (16:55):
In this a gap. I don't care what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You're gonna have to drive me, I have to roll me,
but I'm gonna be in this a gap to give
my linebacker a fighting chance.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
So are you saying you don't really know if we
have the personnel or not because they're not doing what
they're supposed to do to figure out if they are good.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
So like schematically, here's here's why, I'll give you a
schematic situation. Right like schematically, Eva Flus, I'm gonna blame
you for you continually putting Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell, uh,
Donovan Wilson. I just saw him, I saw the reflection.
He's on a commercial, right, Donovan Wilson in space.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
He can't cover. He's never been able to cover. So
whenever you.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Call a defense that requires him to guard anyone that's
athletic in space, schematically, you screwed your defense. That's your
that's your fault, Matti ebra Flus. That ain't donovan fault,
because Donovan showed you who he was before you got here.
He just showed you and OTA's and mini camp and training.
Can he can hit you, He'll hit you right, He'll
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be aggressive, But you put him in space, it's a
fish out of water. So if you keep lining him up,
he got to try to defend and guard tele Roy McMillan,
it ain't done.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
No fault.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
It's your fault now because I've shown you, They've told you,
you've watched it. He can't cover people in space. That
to me is a schematic things right now. That's when
I go, come on now, Matt, Like, I don't know
how many times you got to keep showing this, Like
if the Giants game wasn't enough, you you keep lining
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that young man up out there.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
But what gets people is when you get interception.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, but even his interception wasn't It wasn't because he
made because he wasn't.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
But it was a it was a blatant mistake by he.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Has two interception.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
I'm just I'm one of those fans. I just happened
to know a little football.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Tech ran around and was wh tet ran around and
was open and didn't catch the football. The ball went
right through his perfect throw and it just I mean,
a blond squirrel finds it out every now and again.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Wasn't covering that guy.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
No, he't even he wasn't even covering Tech.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
Yeah, he was behind with the Giants one. He was
just playing deep.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
He just playing deep and and and and rust through
a ma lollipop, you know. But it's him. But Sam Williams,
you let you let exavierler Get block you. The play
comes right, you're on the left hand side, right, you're
the left defense, right hand side of the offense, and
you let a wide receiver just block you, just like
I get there's a crack block.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But you didn't even fight back.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Xavierler Get blocked you fifteen yards the opposite way, while
Rico ran thirty yards that way.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
It was actually fifteen. But it's seen the space.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
The space scene and like that stuff. I'm just saying,
like that ain't scheme that. That's a man not giving
a damn about letting the wide receiver block you, like
a what like there used to be a time remember
to play It's I want to say, it's Chris Carter.
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They got Chris Carters. He was a Philadelphia still it
might have been Minnesota whatever it was. But then Chris
Carter come in motion they tried to have him like
stand in front of Reggie White. That Reggie White said,
little boy, and he grabbed him underneath and he just
threw him and he went and tackle the quarterback because
that at some point, like you see it now it's
a team number, but back then an eighty number gonna
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block me.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You out of your mind?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I remember, uh, your boy o Cho. They was coming.
He was supposed to down block on Lewis. Oh that
clip and when they picked him up like Ray good
he There used to be a time when he was like,
I never been hit that hard.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
You wouldn't dare like defenders would look at that and say,
a wide receiver coming in these trenches. Punish them. You
got Sam, You let them just you ain't fighting back of.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Nothing, all right?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Call us eight eight eight eight eight five two two
nine seven. I get it right between between us. This
table ain't gonna make it to the ause. You know
that Jesse almost took his kneecap all Nate almost ripped
it off the ground. Ago see if the table makes
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All right, let's take a couple of phone calls. Get
this party started. Chris, who we got?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
We got Josh and Maryland.
Speaker 15 (24:13):
Josh up, Hey, what's going on to tell y'all feeling
the desk? I can't complain, Hey, Jesse, that was hilarious
yesterday when you when you said the comment about you
ain't know that we were trying to let them score.
I swear I was thinking the same thing I did.
I didn't. I'm sure I didn't know that we were
letting them school.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It was they were letting. They were letting them through
the line like that.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Dropped their arms.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
Practice.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, that was real like the other downs they
were playing. They were playing real football.
Speaker 15 (24:50):
Oh man. Yeah. So I really ain't gonna do too
much complain to day.
Speaker 16 (24:53):
I mean, at this point y'all said it all, every
every outlet and said it all.
Speaker 15 (24:58):
I mean, we got bad defriends. I'm just more so
disappointed that we about to waste like an MVP coliber
season from Dak Prescott, you know what I mean, Like,
I feel like it's a waste of a season. I
do got one question though, what was the defense doing
this whole time when Micah, you know, he wasn't practicing
doing training camp, so you know, were we not installing things,
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you know, without him being there because they look completely lost.
Speaker 16 (25:23):
But it's like, you know, he.
Speaker 15 (25:24):
Wasn't there anyway. So I am kind of confused on
that part because I mean, I get won't have you know,
I'm not really on the five Matt Abrasou thing because
I mean, even if you bring another coach and dude,
do gap of time has changed? You know, depending on
the coaches, that don't really change. And you know, GOP integrity,
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I don't think that changed from coach to coach. So
I don't see that, you know, really fits in anything. Yeah,
and then one last thing, I want to give a
quick shout out to Nate Man. I was listening to
a podcast the other day and Steve Harvey shouted Nate
out UH talking about when he used to have a
comedy club back in UH chapters and he was talking
(26:06):
about Michael and then he said Nate. Whenever whenever the
Triple in Ordon getting mentioned, they always mentioned Nate. Nate.
Nate was always around crumb.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I was getting the crumbs on every level, every level.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 16 (26:24):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 15 (26:28):
On headline talking about that winker on it got a
Hall of Fame. I guess they voting for it.
Speaker 16 (26:33):
I'm like that win.
Speaker 15 (26:34):
I no disrespect, but come on, we got my man,
Nate sitting right there. You know what I mean, Nate,
you gotta start doing a little more. Who's been hollering
or something like that. I know what you said, you
in the hall. You got plays in the hall now.
But you need your jacket, brother, you need your jacket.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
Yeah, man, I appreciate that. Man, I thank you.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Gosh can good call. So you've been getting along, Nate
for a while, haven't following them?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Cry no little crumb that's falling like you know, say,
like those crumbs, those big.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Pieces, those big pieces that's falling.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
There ain't no little there ain't no little saltine cracker
crumbs like them chunks that's falling.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
So I'm turning around with the practice.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
But what I do, like what he said is you
can change coaches. But the gap interiory that men just
went over is it gonna be there if you look
at the film of if you look truly looked at
this film, and I showed Douglas in there. When you
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have two a less yards per game, that means your
defensive line is dominating the game. And he kind of
looked at me funny. So I showed him number ninety
five and number ninety four, number ninety seven making plays
no game, one yard loss. Then I showed them our
offensive line, I mean their defensive line. They're our defensive line.
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Didn't even like, wow, it is a difference. They weren't
even giving our linebackers a chance. And you know, I.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
Didn't get to look.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
At our linebackers a lot because I was so focused
in on our dealers line. But if you are stacking,
we call that a no no in special teams. When
you stack, that means a one man can wipe you
out like a sniper can bust both of y'all in
the head.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
So, yeah, but how do you practice gap integrity or
do you how do you fix that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (28:29):
No, you that's a mental thing that I want to thing.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Like he said, it's like it's when you get your playbook.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
And this is the part where this is the part
when it comes to as a former player, I have
to at some point in time.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Have some level of accountability.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
So what explain what exactly is gap integrity? Staying in
your gap right.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
If you're driving down out, you know, if you're let's
give it to simple terms. Okay, if you're driving down
the highway, okay, it's a let's say it's a four
lane the highway right and you're in the second lane
from the last left lane.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
The integrity that you're supposed to maintain is in between
them damned.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Two whites, don't that's what?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
What Now?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
If you're driving in between them lines and you're and
I'm I'm driving the left hand lane right and I'm
looking to pass you, I put my blinker on and
I get in the left hand lane.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You're in the in your lane, and I.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Get ready to come and pass you, and all of
a sudden, you whoop into the left lane.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Guess what you just did.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
You didn't honor the gap integrity that you were supposed
to be in and now you've caused an accidents. That's
exactly what happens on the football field. If my gap
is supposed to be the A gap, what I can't
do is get knocked into the beat gap.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And that's what Nate says. If I got to.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Just hunker down, two guards, two tackles, I'm the center,
A are either one one gap those gaps between me,
yeah and that and that's the lanes he's talking about.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
So if I'm responsible for the A gap, then by
hella high water, I got an anchor down and not
get moved from that responsibility. So if what I can't
do is is I can't go, Okay, I'm responsible for
the A gap, But because I want to be who
I am and not follow the destruction of what we're supposed.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
To be doing, I'm gonna jump to the B B gap.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Well guess what, there's somebody behinds you responsible for the
B gap. And so now y'all both in the B
gap and what's their smack wide open?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now the A gap not only.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Your A gap, but just a gap on the other side.
So now that's like two gaps wide over soe.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
So now if I'm the center, all I gotta do
is say he's up the whole. Now when I turn
to just I'm just gonna wall you off. I'm gonna
wall you and I'm gonna get to that backer so
that he can get to you part the red sea.
So gap integrity just means if you're supposed to be
in a lane, keep your butt in that lane. And
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again you don't necessary especially up front, I'm not asking
you to make the play. I'm saying, make that, make
that running back, make him have to jump cut and
bounce to another hole.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So now when he does.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
That, anytime a running back has to stop at the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And jump cut or bounce over, Yes, that that's a win.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
So when you say gap integrity is a it amounts
to want to Are you saying mentally you go, I'm
not gonna freelance, I'm gonna stay here, or are you saying
physically are you saying both Physically.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
I'm saying mentally know with my assignment. And then the
pride part comes out of it is you're not going
move me.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
So you know, I know kurts, the kurts, the lead
back coming through the hole and instead of me just
kind of trying to give it out the block, like.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
You're gonna have to hit me and take you with
you exactly.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
And I'm not letting you take me. And that that's
what the want too comes out.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
The want too is that you're not going to do
what you want.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You're not gonna knock me out of that, You're just
not gonna just you just know, some of it is.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Not honoring your assignment.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Freelancing and then some of it is the physical part
of getting moved by another man.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
And yes, okay, and in the course of that and
in the course of a game, you're gonna win some,
you're gonna lose some. That's the match, right That dude's
a professional.
Speaker 11 (32:35):
Two.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, they pay that due to check too. I gotta
win more.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
At the end of the day when these grades come out,
my grades should say that I beat you more than
you beat me.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And as an offensive lineman, the more critical the game,
the more big, the bigger that one play becomes. Because
I've graded out almost perfect and give up sack at
the end of.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
The game at the wrong time.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So as an offensive player, you definitely got to be
on board with that what he's saying, you definitely got
a defense. Sometimes great athletes can get away with it.
But who are great athletes? Sometimes because like I said,
I saw guys not replacing themselves, but on the other
side of the ball, I could have showed you where
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guys were jumping and replacing themselves. I'll give you one
offensive play where it was a big hole, the ball
was going to the right, they motioned in the back,
and the wide.
Speaker 11 (33:38):
Receiver was the blocker. The tight end was the blocker
wide open hole.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Number sixty went in too far and tried to get
back in the gas, ran it down for a loss.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
But you saw the whole sitting right there.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
All Big Boy had to do was realize that that
guy was too far inside that the guard had he
was put a hand, just put a just put a
hand and step and boom.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
And all need to do is knock that dude off homeboard.
Have been through that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I've never touched him. Now that's the differenent ink from.
Speaker 11 (34:07):
The back backside. I said, wow, tackle, yeah, no game.
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Chris, Yes, sir, who got on the phone.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
We got Lester in Minnesota Leicester in Minnesota, my boy,
long winded le Hey boy.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
How did you become a Cowboys fan?
Speaker 16 (37:20):
Boys? We know I got three points. I want to
make man three.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I've heard let's do two.
Speaker 16 (37:28):
I heard that'll be quick man. I heard on another
show that Eagle Flute was hired before our head coach.
So if that's the case, then I know that Jerry
don't want him to look bad, so Jerry will try
to get him some help. Second thing, I want to
say that half game that everybody's complaining about. Hey, I
(37:50):
thought that half game. You know, if we were have won,
we'll be in second place. So we still got the
chance of getting that half game if we beat Watchington
being second in place after this week. And third point
I want to make is man the football is aggressive
sports man. We got a lot of good players, you know,
(38:12):
good nice players, but like in hockey, man, we need
some We need a couple of goons, especially on defense.
Speaker 17 (38:20):
I e.
Speaker 16 (38:21):
Hally throwing the helmet at Jerry Wentz when they had
a little dispute about uh the running back. So we
need some goons.
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Man.
Speaker 16 (38:32):
You know, they may not have all the talent, but hey,
they like we book book, not somebody by the college.
We need to win and that's all I got.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Boys, good call, Thank you Lester on.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
The Seattle, the other ones in Jacksonville.
Speaker 8 (38:48):
Your dogs went, your goons? Who your dogs went? Your
dogs went On's in Jacksonville in Seattle.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
All right, what about our next call?
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Who we got Chris?
Speaker 7 (39:04):
We got Chris in Modesto, California. Chris in California?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
What's up?
Speaker 18 (39:11):
Hello?
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Hello, you're on the air.
Speaker 18 (39:14):
I was watching it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You can't tell you can't call in it.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Man, I'm gonna hang up on it.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
You can't tell us to hold on, Man, I shouldna
tell us to hold on.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
You know who we are. We can't tell you're hanging
with the bus hold for nobody.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Man, This this shows me off ever since, ever since
I gave us hold on?
Speaker 11 (39:39):
Oh, I got another us to talk a little low.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
We made that mistake once.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah, I got that one for you.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Okay, we got we got our boy air from North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
What up, fellas?
Speaker 19 (39:51):
What doing?
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Hey?
Speaker 19 (39:54):
I just had tacos the day man's corner, the side
of tacos. Then it was hitting too. Get there, yeah there.
I just want to be shout there with some guys
catching in for the show in you know, hey, hey,
this defense got turned around.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Man.
Speaker 19 (40:07):
I don't know what's going to happen though, but it's
sad because dak is having an astronomical season. Hopefully they
could turn around so this season won't go the ways man,
because dak is definitely want the top three quarterbacks in
the league and just wish the deefense and catch up
with the offense. I'm gonna leave you guys with that
catch out by the weekend. Man, cowboy's life.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
All right, all right, you know, Eric, one thing I'll
say about when we have the conversation on you know,
talent wise, because.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Even on let's just choose.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Let's use a division opponent for example, Like the Giants
have been bad for a while, right but even in
their goots juicness defensively, you still would look up and
you got Dex Lawrence still playing at Dex Lawrence is
still respect it, still respect it. You go, man, that
Brian Burr still respected across the league. And so it's like,
(41:02):
and that's the part when I go, we don't have
enough players, Like, even in our poorness defensively right now,
we don't have a guy that's looked around at the league.
It is like you still got to respect him, Like,
you know what I'm saying, Like when Cleveland is at
their worst.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Defensively, you know you got Miles. Gotta respect Miles Garray.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
When when like pick a team that has a bad
team or bad defense, there's still a guy that you
look up and you go, yeah, but you better not let.
Speaker 11 (41:33):
This boy get crunk up.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
You know, Bosa get going, oh what have you? You
know what I'm saying. So it's like no one says
that about us.
Speaker 8 (41:41):
We still don't have a guy on this defense, as
poor as it is. It's like, well, at least he
got seven interceptions, or at least he got seven sacks.
You know, and in much respect to James Houston for
doing what he's able to do, but.
Speaker 11 (41:55):
Seventeen snaps.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
This is not This is not This is not a
defense with enough talent.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
We don't have one or two guys on the defense
that teams are looking up and going, we can't challenge
that guy.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Not one.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
There's not one dude that a quarter a good quarterback
will come to the line of scrimmage and go I'm worried.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
Right, there's there's no part of the defense you have
to game plan around.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
And even and even on other teams with bad defenses,
there's usually a player right too that you're like, we
got to stop him.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
No one said that about our defense.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
It's it's it's it's it's barbecue chicken, a la carte.
What you want of that outside inside linebacker safety, it's
you know what I'm saying, like, and that's the part
where I'm like, we're avoiding talented players.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
And we've always had that on defense, Like we we
had Michael, we had d Law, we had d Ware,
we had Sean Lee. We always had a guy somewhere
in the secondary front. Like you said, you've always had
a goutt right now you have like on this point.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
Like if you have to ask yourself a question like
if I'm if I'm the Washington Commanders, who do I
like and I'm old?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
So I'm gonna say playbook.
Speaker 8 (43:07):
But when we used to open up our playbooks back
in the day, at the top the very first page,
at the top of that page was always going to
be these are the guys that we have to worry
about on that defense and nots out of tend. It
was usually some guys who were pro bowlers, all pro
god stuff like that. But if you're being realistic when
you open up the playbook, if you're the Washington Commanders,
(43:28):
who are you looking at on this Cowboys defense and going?
But we really got to have a game plan for that. Hey,
Jay and Daniels, we gotta stay away from that guy
man line. You know, you bring your hard hats, bring
your lunch paid this you're in for one this week.
I don't see it, and that that in itself is
(43:49):
a major problem.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
All let's take one more phone call before we get
out of here. Chris, who we got? All right, We're
gonna try this again. Chris, Hey, hey, hold.
Speaker 18 (43:58):
On playing that video And he tried to pause it
because it was like overlapping back. Can I really hear y'all?
But yeah, it's been some years.
Speaker 16 (44:08):
Since I called.
Speaker 18 (44:08):
The last time our calls was I think thirteen years
ago talking Cowboys and anyways, I just want to touch
bases on the defense. I feel like Matt ebers Flew's
the defense. The main thing that needs to be corrected
for it to operate is in the middle. We don't
(44:30):
have a mic linebacker. Wilson can't play in space. Everybody
knows that he's good in the box. His interception came
off of mistake. It looked like to me he was
in the box at that moment when he got that interception.
And I don't feel that Samborn or Murray is a
guy you know if you're if you're the office opposing
(44:51):
team coming in.
Speaker 15 (44:52):
You don't have to look at Diggs, you don't have to.
Speaker 18 (44:54):
Look at Bland or Stewart. All the problems are in
the middle, and they're not containing the and that the edge.
There's no defensive contain on the edge. So the only
way I see we could correct it going forward is
to make some obvious personnel changes. As far as Matt,
(45:16):
he's a coach that kind of rubs me the wrong way,
But I know he has a good history. But while
when he was here, I believe it was during Wade
Phillips and uh, well, I think he might have been
here during Bill Parcells. I'm not but I recalled the Marcus.
(45:41):
We're complaining about the linebacker coach not wanting to make
changes prior to him leaving, and that was one of
the reasons why he left. I remember our defense becoming
stagnant and just it's it's just so predictable. That's what
worries me about Matt is the the what I hear
(46:03):
about in Chicago, him not wanting to change you. You
see the comments, so I don't like grits. I don't
care if you don't like grits. You just got to
understand what its what the idea of quick grits. If
you got quick grits, things are coming together quick, that's it.
You know, you shouldn't be having the little issues with Diggs.
(46:25):
Diggs is one of our best quarterbacks. Suicides Bland and Stewart, yea,
if they start losing confidence and what they're doing and
they can't go.
Speaker 16 (46:36):
To the coach and.
Speaker 18 (46:37):
Say, hey, these are.
Speaker 16 (46:38):
The things that.
Speaker 18 (46:39):
We feel that will make us feel comfortable. The same
way you go to your quarterback, what do you want
on this play?
Speaker 15 (46:47):
You should be going here players.
Speaker 18 (46:49):
You shouldn't be shutting them out, dogging them out. That's
just that's just I mean, I feel like I don't
really have a question as a fan. I'm just frustrated
because I feel like I've seen this coming.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Appreciate the call man. We're out of time, Chris Man,
he got his thirteen years in work boy.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
He was holding on and on year.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
We appreciate you calling. Chris, thanks for listening. Fellas. It's
been good. Tomorrow hopefully it'll be better. What are we
doing tomorrow? Cowboys offense? Sure, Cowboys offense.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Cowboys offense, Washington Commander's defense.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Defense.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
Let's do that. That'll be fun.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
That'll be the fun day, be more fun than Thursday. Chris,
thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh, thanks for
keeping him company. Jim, hope you behave back there. We'll
be back tomorrow, same time, same place.
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Had you beaten Chicago that no, had you beaten out
the Panthers, you may be finding yourself sitting nice in
the division, but no, you got you got next week
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you play the Commanders and if you beat the Commanders,
that puts them at three and four, that puts you
at three three and one. That moves you TLF game baby,
that half second place within the division.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
A half game. Call us a A eight eight five
five two two nine seven.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Eight five five What I say? I don't know what
you said?
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Okay, eight five.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Five five two thank you?
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Call us call us Oh, Kurt, Yes, sir, mister Jones
had a lot to say this morning, didn't he Just
a plethora of information.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
He did want to walk us through the one things.
Speaker 10 (02:45):
The one that got people a little on edge. You
might say it was he made the quote along the
lines of where where the Cowboys are right now? Potentially
the strongest part of the team is the past, rush.
Speaker 7 (02:59):
Lie and I believe you running show says what.
Speaker 8 (03:07):
You know, here's the thing, and we just have to
always remember this factor in it all.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Mister Jones.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
His number one thing that he is great at and
I'm this is not even debatable, the best in the
business at this in any sports league, not just the
National Football League, in any sports league NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, MMA, WWF.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
He's the best at selling.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Hope, hope, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:47):
His job every time he steps in front of a microphone,
every time he steps in front of a camera, every
time he is on the radio and or TV, or
if he's in the local.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Delhi is to be selling his football team.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
It is our job as analysts, as panelists, as people
who are delivering the truth to the people, to tell
it what it is. So we have to stop making
this mistake of believing what Jerry is ultimately saying in
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these particular moments, because he is doing the absolute thing that.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He is supposed to do.
Speaker 8 (04:36):
He is supposed to sell you to come back and
watch his program next week. Same bat station, same bat channel,
same bat time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's what his job is.
Speaker 8 (04:48):
So while you sit here today Sunday during the game,
Monday after the game, and Tuesday, while you sit here
and you go through all of the tape and the
videos and the watching the us and listening to us,
it's his job now to rebrand and rebuild and resell
the hope for next Sunday. Like he's supposed to say that,
(05:12):
Like he's supposed to come out and say that.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I think that.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
You know, he hit another quote that he had in
there when he said, Kenny Smith is grading first or
second best on our defense. And to the naked eye,
you go, well, all right, until you look at it,
you go, yeah, for that defense. That defense is terrible
as hell. It's the thirty ninth ranked defense in the
National Football League. So him being the second best, second greatest,
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I don't know, but him being the second greatest highest
ranked defender on the thirty ninth best defense in the
league is like being the tall short person.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Ain't wrong with that.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
Like it's one of those deals where it's like, but
he'll frame it in such a way that you that
people will then go see Kenny Clark, boy glad to
have him to say that you have arguably the best
past rush that you've had.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
I think you called him Kenny Smith, by the way.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Kenny Smith, Kenny Clark. Listen. I'm like, I'm like, Nate,
do something, do something.
Speaker 8 (06:13):
I remember your name, Kenny Smith, Kenny Pickett, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Do something.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
I'm giving out the wrong phone number.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
And I've never I've never You've never heard anyone miss
quote Emmitt Smith. No one's never miss said Troy Aikman.
No one has ever said Mike Halla Jordan's Nah, you.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Do something worth. People remember your name and they won't forget.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
So U unless you make the owner mad and you
become Michael.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well that's just yeah, yeah, he miss passed lots of names.
But yeah, man, you know, if you probably have learned the.
Speaker 11 (06:54):
Maybe we could have got.
Speaker 8 (06:57):
But Jerry, he is doing exactly what he's supposed to do.
It is your job, It is our job, but it's
also your job as the fan base, as people who
are supposed to be rational. And I get it. Fandom
is short for fanatics. So a lot of you are
not rational thinkers when it comes to your football team.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
And so when the owner comes out and he says
the thing that he says.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
A lot of you, a ton of you by it,
and for him, he's like great. He finally puts the
right finger up and he goes he goes, great, that's
what I want, and and boy, wee get a week out.
He just keeps at a gentleman that I met a
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couple of weeks ago who was a big Cowboy fan,
and he's like, you know, he's tweeting me early about
the comments that Jerry is making on one of five
to three the Fan, the flagship station for the Cowboys,
And I said, I told him, I said, I met
you you and I had a brief conversation about your fandom.
You told me what you spind he's from New Jersey.
(07:59):
You told me what you spend to come here in
the half season tickets. So I said, I'm not blaming you,
so don't take offense. But he's talking to you, and
he's selling this to you to come back next week.
So when he tells you that this team is we're
right there.
Speaker 11 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
When he tells you that, you know, we knew that
they were going to run the football. But if we
just stop some other plays, some other things will happen
and score more points.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
No, no, no.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
If you knew they were going to run the football,
that should be your focus.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So don't don't. Don't tell me you knew they were
going to run the football.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
But if you did other things that would indicated then
running for almost two hundred yards, that doesn't make any sense.
But you shape it and you sell it and you
package it. I'm not a drinker, but I've heard a
lot of people who get drunk and say, if you
drink enough, any food tastes good. So if I package
it right, you'll need it. If I keep you drunk
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on Hope, did anything taste good? And you'll keep showing
back up every time the dinner bell goes off because
I've gotten you drunk on Hope all week, and you
show back up on Sunday. And what ends up happening
is eventually I make a good meal that you actually like,
and you go, what I was good. I'll come back
(09:19):
next week and I may give you two poopoo meals
the next week, but you don't forget about that one
that I really made. Well, we could go and I can.
I can sell you on that one again. I'll make
that one again. I'll make that one that you really tasted.
You were sober, that one was good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So you come back again and again, and this is
what he does. And so I'm not I'm not mad
at what Jerry says. Say it, Jerry, say all of it.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
That's what you're supposed to do, entertainment.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And by the way, let's be fair, he did have
the right finger up. He just mixed another one in there.
Speaker 10 (09:46):
Okay, you keep spinning that s go look at the video.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
No, he thumbed the guy up and then he pointed
at the other guy and.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Okay, so all right. He said a couple other things too,
before we go to break well, you.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Said that the defensive problems are not one or two
major things. It's a lot of little things that they
need to work out. And then Stephen Jones had actually
said yesterday that the personnel they have the necessary personnel,
it's just those to succeed. But those guys just need
to execute better.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
So I think I would rather have one or two
major things that you could focus on and go, Okay,
this is the problem, let's fix this and this instead
of going, well, this game.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
It was this, this, this, this, this and this and
then but.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Do y'all believe that it's you believe you have the
personnel on this team that that's not the problem.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
My problem be talking about owned it back in or from,
which is one of the I think it's easier to
fix our front end than it is back in.
Speaker 11 (10:55):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I what I saw this past game was uh, just
guys getting out of their gaps. And it was bad.
It was terrible. They were taking time. Now what I
what I am gonna say this? I pushed back, Oh,
oh you can, But I'm gonna tell you what. I
got a number eighty four. I can show you that
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block the number ninety four out of the picture about
three times.
Speaker 11 (11:21):
That was a tight end.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
And so for me, and that's why I say that
it's easier to fix the back end, because.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I can get one.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I can get one really really really good safety and
fix the back end.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You think, So what we're dealing with upfront is that.
That's the main.
Speaker 11 (11:38):
Reason I'm saying that's proud.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
That was just one thing that I But if the
guys were just staring there staying their gaps, the guys
were jumping out of their gaps, you know, that's just.
Speaker 10 (11:54):
So that they had the talent and not the execution.
Speaker 11 (11:58):
Like he said, it's the wheel, it's the will.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Like when you're talking about trench like, you're talking about
trench and I'm not a trench guy. Nate lived his
life in the trenches. I'm I'm I'm a diva, right,
I live on the outside.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know what I'm saying. I want my shoes to
be nice and clean, my nails to be clean.
Speaker 8 (12:15):
And my glove to be right. I want all those
stuff to fit. I wasn't a trench guy. Okay, I
don't want no mud dirt.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't know that.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
You can't be you can't wait.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
You can't be too much of a diva and be
a special teams guy.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Yeah, but you gotta be a little dirty.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And I'm a little dirty, but I'm not. I'm not
I'm not trench dirty.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
You wanted to wash off?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, when I came to wear it.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, with a hand sanitize. I don't want to be
in that thing that that long.
Speaker 8 (12:41):
But when you start talking about trench stuff, man, like,
that's where a lot of will and and and and
personal accountability of just this man ain't gonna move me,
Like this man ain't gonna move me like it's that,
And that's what we're seeing in the trenches with do
would you get dog walked and your second greatest, your
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second highest greatest player got moved, was on the ground repeatedly.
Your guy you just paid and that's why was jumping
gaps getting moved but your draft picks.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But that's walked by tight.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
But that's what I'm saying our linebackers, due to the
fact that you're very undisciplined on your defensive line. If
even if I'm getting blocked as you Jesse and Kurt
are coming at me, if I just grabbed tur if
I just wrought while on the ground, I'm gonna get
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Shannon at least a chance to make a play. But
I saw guys not only jump out of their gaps,
but now he didn't. Once it's arm over, y'all. Both
everybody know the arm over. They do it ron and passed.
When you go arm over, you're giving up your gap.
(14:03):
I'm giving up this gap here. But the first thing
I have to do once I let you shoot through
and fall on your face, I gotta replace the dude
armed over and stay where he was and watching number
five just run and the linebacker got killed not by
one guy, but by two guys.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's not right.
Speaker 11 (14:25):
Yeah, that's what's saying in my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
For sure, I'm like, all you.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Gotta do is just do this, But you also have
to you also have linebackers on this team where the
ball is going right and you're drifting left, drifting left,
you got linebackers who are are start side by side
the play starts, they stacked on top of each other.
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At no point in time should your linebackers be playing
anything or they're stacked on each other.
Speaker 11 (14:57):
That special team and gets you all special teams.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
Like if you got a gap and I got a gap,
we can't somebody wrong. And now now when you have
this and this, there's a crease, and that's what happened.
That that's what happened. That's what happened Sunday. That's what happened.
So there is a lot of blame that goes around
when we start talking about the defensive woes.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
It ain't just scheme ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
On the tape, I'm not I'm not absolving Matt Eberflus
of anything. I'm also saying it ain't all him.
Speaker 10 (15:34):
That kind of seems to be what the front office
is saying.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
It ain't all him but you and and And that's
the part why I kind of when I say I
pushed back on Nate and even on Stephen Jones. You're
not talented enough on this football team.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You're not. You have some talented players, You're not talented
enough on this football team. Not defensively. Not defensively.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Boy, when you look at the film and and number
ninety four, young guy second.
Speaker 11 (16:07):
Year, what is his name?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Marsha kneeling, Marsha kneeling. You cannot ever let a tight
end block you. And did not happened once, It happened twice.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Not when you head up like it's one thing.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
If a dude catch you looking not looking, we'll catch
you blindside. Cool, you got me, You got me. But
when I'm looking at you and you looking at me, Wow,
and I just grab you and dog walk you ten
yards back.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
And you spend the wrong he spent, He spent out
the wrong way. The dude just ran right up behind him.
I said, I said, that's kind of disheartened. That's why
I'm not gonna argue with you. Your pushback is right. Some
of these things is I'm not gonna let you do.
But some of these things are schematic. No, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 11 (16:55):
In this a gap. I don't care what happened.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You're gonna have to drive me, I have to roll me,
but I'm gonna be in this a gap to give
my linebacker a fighting chance.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
So are you saying you don't really know if we
have the personnel or not because they're not doing what
they're supposed to do to figure out if they are good.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
So like schematically, here's here's why, I'll give you a
schematic situation. Right like schematically, Eva Flus, I'm gonna blame
you for you continually putting Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell, uh,
Donovan Wilson. I just saw him, I saw the reflection.
He's on a commercial, right, Donovan Wilson in space.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
He can't cover. He's never been able to cover. So
whenever you.
Speaker 8 (17:41):
Call a defense that requires him to guard anyone that's
athletic in space, schematically, you screwed your defense. That's your
that's your fault, Matti ebra Flus. That ain't donovan fault,
because Donovan showed you who he was before you got here.
He just showed you and OTA's and mini camp and training.
Can he can hit you, He'll hit you right, He'll
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be aggressive, But you put him in space, it's a
fish out of water. So if you keep lining him up,
he got to try to defend and guard tele Roy McMillan,
it ain't done.
Speaker 10 (18:13):
No fault.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
It's your fault now because I've shown you, They've told you,
you've watched it. He can't cover people in space. That
to me is a schematic things right now. That's when
I go, come on now, Matt, Like, I don't know
how many times you got to keep showing this, Like
if the Giants game wasn't enough, you you keep lining
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that young man up out there.
Speaker 11 (18:37):
But what gets people is when you get interception.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah, but even his interception wasn't It wasn't because he
made because he wasn't.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
But it was a it was a blatant mistake by he.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Has two interception.
Speaker 11 (18:55):
I'm just I'm one of those fans. I just happened
to know a little football.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Tech ran around and was wh tet ran around and
was open and didn't catch the football. The ball went
right through his perfect throw and it just I mean,
a blond squirrel finds it out every now and again.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 10 (19:13):
Wasn't covering that guy.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
No, he't even he wasn't even covering Tech.
Speaker 10 (19:17):
Yeah, he was behind with the Giants one. He was
just playing deep.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
He just playing deep and and and and rust through
a ma lollipop, you know. But it's him. But Sam Williams,
you let you let exavierler Get block you. The play
comes right, you're on the left hand side, right, you're
the left defense, right hand side of the offense, and
you let a wide receiver just block you, just like
I get there's a crack block.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
But you didn't even fight back.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Xavierler Get blocked you fifteen yards the opposite way, while
Rico ran thirty yards that way.
Speaker 11 (19:52):
It was actually fifteen. But it's seen the space.
Speaker 8 (19:55):
The space scene and like that stuff. I'm just saying,
like that ain't scheme that. That's a man not giving
a damn about letting the wide receiver block you, like
a what like there used to be a time remember
to play It's I want to say, it's Chris Carter.
(20:18):
They got Chris Carters. He was a Philadelphia still it
might have been Minnesota whatever it was. But then Chris
Carter come in motion they tried to have him like
stand in front of Reggie White. That Reggie White said,
little boy, and he grabbed him underneath and he just
threw him and he went and tackle the quarterback because
that at some point, like you see it now it's
a team number, but back then an eighty number gonna
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block me.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You out of your mind?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I remember, uh, your boy o Cho. They was coming.
He was supposed to down block on Lewis. Oh that
clip and when they picked him up like Ray good
he There used to be a time when he was like,
I never been hit that hard.
Speaker 8 (21:00):
You wouldn't dare like defenders would look at that and say,
a wide receiver coming in these trenches. Punish them. You
got Sam, You let them just you ain't fighting back of.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Nothing, all right?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Call us eight eight eight eight eight five two two
nine seven. I get it right between between us. This
table ain't gonna make it to the ause. You know
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All right, let's take a couple of phone calls. Get
this party started. Chris, who we got?
Speaker 7 (24:11):
We got Josh and Maryland.
Speaker 15 (24:13):
Josh up, Hey, what's going on to tell y'all feeling
the desk? I can't complain, Hey, Jesse, that was hilarious
yesterday when you when you said the comment about you
ain't know that we were trying to let them score.
I swear I was thinking the same thing I did.
I didn't. I'm sure I didn't know that we were
letting them school.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
It was they were letting. They were letting them through
the line like that.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Dropped their arms.
Speaker 11 (24:42):
Practice.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, that was real like the other downs they
were playing. They were playing real football.
Speaker 15 (24:50):
Oh man. Yeah. So I really ain't gonna do too
much complain to day.
Speaker 16 (24:53):
I mean, at this point y'all said it all, every
every outlet and said it all.
Speaker 15 (24:58):
I mean, we got bad defriends. I'm just more so
disappointed that we about to waste like an MVP coliber
season from Dak Prescott, you know what I mean, Like,
I feel like it's a waste of a season. I
do got one question though, what was the defense doing
this whole time when Micah, you know, he wasn't practicing
doing training camp, so you know, were we not installing things,
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you know, without him being there because they look completely lost.
Speaker 16 (25:23):
But it's like, you know, he.
Speaker 15 (25:24):
Wasn't there anyway. So I am kind of confused on
that part because I mean, I get won't have you know,
I'm not really on the five Matt Abrasou thing because
I mean, even if you bring another coach and dude,
do gap of time has changed? You know, depending on
the coaches, that don't really change. And you know, GOP integrity,
(25:45):
I don't think that changed from coach to coach. So
I don't see that, you know, really fits in anything. Yeah,
and then one last thing, I want to give a
quick shout out to Nate Man. I was listening to
a podcast the other day and Steve Harvey shouted Nate
out UH talking about when he used to have a
comedy club back in UH chapters and he was talking
(26:06):
about Michael and then he said Nate. Whenever whenever the
Triple in Ordon getting mentioned, they always mentioned Nate. Nate.
Nate was always around crumb.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I was getting the crumbs on every level, every level.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 16 (26:24):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Speaker 15 (26:28):
On headline talking about that winker on it got a
Hall of Fame. I guess they voting for it.
Speaker 16 (26:33):
I'm like that win.
Speaker 15 (26:34):
I no disrespect, but come on, we got my man,
Nate sitting right there. You know what I mean, Nate,
you gotta start doing a little more. Who's been hollering
or something like that. I know what you said, you
in the hall. You got plays in the hall now.
But you need your jacket, brother, you need your jacket.
Speaker 11 (26:47):
Yeah, man, I appreciate that. Man, I thank you.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Gosh can good call. So you've been getting along, Nate
for a while, haven't following them?
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Cry no little crumb that's falling like you know, say,
like those crumbs, those big.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Pieces, those big pieces that's falling.
Speaker 8 (27:06):
There ain't no little there ain't no little saltine cracker
crumbs like them chunks that's falling.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
So I'm turning around with the practice.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
But what I do, like what he said is you
can change coaches. But the gap interiory that men just
went over is it gonna be there if you look
at the film of if you look truly looked at
this film, and I showed Douglas in there. When you
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have two a less yards per game, that means your
defensive line is dominating the game. And he kind of
looked at me funny. So I showed him number ninety
five and number ninety four, number ninety seven making plays
no game, one yard loss. Then I showed them our
offensive line, I mean their defensive line. They're our defensive line.
(27:59):
Didn't even like, wow, it is a difference. They weren't
even giving our linebackers a chance. And you know, I.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
Didn't get to look.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
At our linebackers a lot because I was so focused
in on our dealers line. But if you are stacking,
we call that a no no in special teams. When
you stack, that means a one man can wipe you
out like a sniper can bust both of y'all in
the head.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
So, yeah, but how do you practice gap integrity or
do you how do you fix that?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (28:29):
No, you that's a mental thing that I want to thing.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Like he said, it's like it's when you get your playbook.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
And this is the part where this is the part
when it comes to as a former player, I have
to at some point in time.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Have some level of accountability.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
So what explain what exactly is gap integrity? Staying in
your gap right.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
If you're driving down out, you know, if you're let's
give it to simple terms. Okay, if you're driving down
the highway, okay, it's a let's say it's a four
lane the highway right and you're in the second lane
from the last left lane.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
The integrity that you're supposed to maintain is in between
them damned.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Two whites, don't that's what?
Speaker 4 (29:15):
What Now?
Speaker 8 (29:16):
If you're driving in between them lines and you're and
I'm I'm driving the left hand lane right and I'm
looking to pass you, I put my blinker on and
I get in the left hand lane.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
You're in the in your lane, and I.
Speaker 8 (29:28):
Get ready to come and pass you, and all of
a sudden, you whoop into the left lane.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Guess what you just did.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
You didn't honor the gap integrity that you were supposed
to be in and now you've caused an accidents. That's
exactly what happens on the football field. If my gap
is supposed to be the A gap, what I can't
do is get knocked into the beat gap.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
And that's what Nate says. If I got to.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Just hunker down, two guards, two tackles, I'm the center,
A are either one one gap those gaps between me,
yeah and that and that's the lanes he's talking about.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
So if I'm responsible for the A gap, then by
hella high water, I got an anchor down and not
get moved from that responsibility. So if what I can't
do is is I can't go, Okay, I'm responsible for
the A gap, But because I want to be who
I am and not follow the destruction of what we're supposed.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
To be doing, I'm gonna jump to the B B gap.
Speaker 8 (30:33):
Well guess what, there's somebody behinds you responsible for the
B gap. And so now y'all both in the B
gap and what's their smack wide open?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Now the A gap not only.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Your A gap, but just a gap on the other side.
So now that's like two gaps wide over soe.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
So now if I'm the center, all I gotta do
is say he's up the whole. Now when I turn
to just I'm just gonna wall you off. I'm gonna
wall you and I'm gonna get to that backer so
that he can get to you part the red sea.
So gap integrity just means if you're supposed to be
in a lane, keep your butt in that lane. And
(31:11):
again you don't necessary especially up front, I'm not asking
you to make the play. I'm saying, make that, make
that running back, make him have to jump cut and
bounce to another hole.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So now when he does.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
That, anytime a running back has to stop at the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
And jump cut or bounce over, Yes, that that's a win.
Speaker 6 (31:32):
So when you say gap integrity is a it amounts
to want to Are you saying mentally you go, I'm
not gonna freelance, I'm gonna stay here, or are you saying
physically are you saying both Physically.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
I'm saying mentally know with my assignment. And then the
pride part comes out of it is you're not going
move me.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
So you know, I know kurts, the kurts, the lead
back coming through the hole and instead of me just
kind of trying to give it out the block, like.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
You're gonna have to hit me and take you with
you exactly.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
And I'm not letting you take me. And that that's
what the want too comes out.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
The want too is that you're not going to do
what you want.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You're not gonna knock me out of that, You're just
not gonna just you just know, some of it is.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Not honoring your assignment.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Freelancing and then some of it is the physical part
of getting moved by another man.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
And yes, okay, and in the course of that and
in the course of a game, you're gonna win some,
you're gonna lose some. That's the match, right That dude's
a professional.
Speaker 11 (32:35):
Two.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Okay, they pay that due to check too. I gotta
win more.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
At the end of the day when these grades come out,
my grades should say that I beat you more than
you beat me.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
And as an offensive lineman, the more critical the game,
the more big, the bigger that one play becomes. Because
I've graded out almost perfect and give up sack at
the end of.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
The game at the wrong time.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
So as an offensive player, you definitely got to be
on board with that what he's saying, you definitely got
a defense. Sometimes great athletes can get away with it.
But who are great athletes? Sometimes because like I said,
I saw guys not replacing themselves, but on the other
side of the ball, I could have showed you where
(33:25):
guys were jumping and replacing themselves. I'll give you one
offensive play where it was a big hole, the ball
was going to the right, they motioned in the back,
and the wide.
Speaker 11 (33:38):
Receiver was the blocker. The tight end was the blocker
wide open hole.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Number sixty went in too far and tried to get
back in the gas, ran it down for a loss.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
But you saw the whole sitting right there.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
All Big Boy had to do was realize that that
guy was too far inside that the guard had he
was put a hand, just put a just put a
hand and step and boom.
Speaker 11 (34:02):
And all need to do is knock that dude off homeboard.
Have been through that.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I've never touched him. Now that's the differenent ink from.
Speaker 11 (34:07):
The back backside. I said, wow, tackle, yeah, no game.
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Speaker 7 (37:01):
Chris, Yes, sir, who got on the phone.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
We got Lester in Minnesota Leicester in Minnesota, my boy,
long winded le Hey boy.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
How did you become a Cowboys fan?
Speaker 16 (37:20):
Boys? We know I got three points. I want to
make man three.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
I've heard let's do two.
Speaker 16 (37:28):
I heard that'll be quick man. I heard on another
show that Eagle Flute was hired before our head coach.
So if that's the case, then I know that Jerry
don't want him to look bad, so Jerry will try
to get him some help. Second thing, I want to
say that half game that everybody's complaining about. Hey, I
(37:50):
thought that half game. You know, if we were have won,
we'll be in second place. So we still got the
chance of getting that half game if we beat Watchington
being second in place after this week. And third point
I want to make is man the football is aggressive
sports man. We got a lot of good players, you know,
(38:12):
good nice players, but like in hockey, man, we need
some We need a couple of goons, especially on defense.
Speaker 17 (38:20):
I e.
Speaker 16 (38:21):
Hally throwing the helmet at Jerry Wentz when they had
a little dispute about uh the running back. So we
need some goons.
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Man.
Speaker 16 (38:32):
You know, they may not have all the talent, but hey,
they like we book book, not somebody by the college.
We need to win and that's all I got.
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Boys, good call, Thank you Lester on.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
The Seattle, the other ones in Jacksonville.
Speaker 8 (38:48):
Your dogs went, your goons? Who your dogs went? Your
dogs went On's in Jacksonville in Seattle.
Speaker 7 (39:00):
All right, what about our next call?
Speaker 11 (39:02):
Who we got Chris?
Speaker 7 (39:04):
We got Chris in Modesto, California. Chris in California?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
What's up?
Speaker 18 (39:11):
Hello?
Speaker 7 (39:12):
Hello, you're on the air.
Speaker 18 (39:14):
I was watching it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You can't tell you can't call in it.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Man, I'm gonna hang up on it.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
You can't tell us to hold on, Man, I shouldna
tell us to hold on.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
You know who we are. We can't tell you're hanging
with the bus hold for nobody.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Man, This this shows me off ever since, ever since
I gave us hold on?
Speaker 11 (39:39):
Oh, I got another us to talk a little low.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
We made that mistake once.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Yeah, I got that one for you.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Okay, we got we got our boy air from North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
What up, fellas?
Speaker 19 (39:51):
What doing?
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Hey?
Speaker 19 (39:54):
I just had tacos the day man's corner, the side
of tacos. Then it was hitting too. Get there, yeah there.
I just want to be shout there with some guys
catching in for the show in you know, hey, hey,
this defense got turned around.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Man.
Speaker 19 (40:07):
I don't know what's going to happen though, but it's
sad because dak is having an astronomical season. Hopefully they
could turn around so this season won't go the ways man,
because dak is definitely want the top three quarterbacks in
the league and just wish the deefense and catch up
with the offense. I'm gonna leave you guys with that
catch out by the weekend. Man, cowboy's life.
Speaker 8 (40:24):
All right, all right, you know, Eric, one thing I'll
say about when we have the conversation on you know,
talent wise, because.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Even on let's just choose.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
Let's use a division opponent for example, Like the Giants
have been bad for a while, right but even in
their goots juicness defensively, you still would look up and
you got Dex Lawrence still playing at Dex Lawrence is
still respect it, still respect it. You go, man, that
Brian Burr still respected across the league. And so it's like,
(41:02):
and that's the part when I go, we don't have
enough players, Like, even in our poorness defensively right now,
we don't have a guy that's looked around at the league.
It is like you still got to respect him, Like,
you know what I'm saying, Like when Cleveland is at
their worst.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Defensively, you know you got Miles. Gotta respect Miles Garray.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
When when like pick a team that has a bad
team or bad defense, there's still a guy that you
look up and you go, yeah, but you better not let.
Speaker 11 (41:33):
This boy get crunk up.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
You know, Bosa get going, oh what have you? You
know what I'm saying. So it's like no one says
that about us.
Speaker 8 (41:41):
We still don't have a guy on this defense, as
poor as it is. It's like, well, at least he
got seven interceptions, or at least he got seven sacks.
You know, and in much respect to James Houston for
doing what he's able to do, but.
Speaker 11 (41:55):
Seventeen snaps.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
This is not This is not This is not a
defense with enough talent.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
We don't have one or two guys on the defense
that teams are looking up and going, we can't challenge
that guy.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Not one.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
There's not one dude that a quarter a good quarterback
will come to the line of scrimmage and go I'm worried.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
Right, there's there's no part of the defense you have
to game plan around.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
And even and even on other teams with bad defenses,
there's usually a player right too that you're like, we
got to stop him.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
No one said that about our defense.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
It's it's it's it's it's barbecue chicken, a la carte.
What you want of that outside inside linebacker safety, it's
you know what I'm saying, like, and that's the part
where I'm like, we're avoiding talented players.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
And we've always had that on defense, Like we we
had Michael, we had d Law, we had d Ware,
we had Sean Lee. We always had a guy somewhere
in the secondary front. Like you said, you've always had
a goutt right now you have like on this point.
Speaker 8 (42:58):
Like if you have to ask yourself a question like
if I'm if I'm the Washington Commanders, who do I
like and I'm old?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
So I'm gonna say playbook.
Speaker 8 (43:07):
But when we used to open up our playbooks back
in the day, at the top the very first page,
at the top of that page was always going to
be these are the guys that we have to worry
about on that defense and nots out of tend. It
was usually some guys who were pro bowlers, all pro
god stuff like that. But if you're being realistic when
you open up the playbook, if you're the Washington Commanders,
(43:28):
who are you looking at on this Cowboys defense and going?
But we really got to have a game plan for that. Hey,
Jay and Daniels, we gotta stay away from that guy
man line. You know, you bring your hard hats, bring
your lunch paid this you're in for one this week.
I don't see it, and that that in itself is
(43:49):
a major problem.
Speaker 7 (43:50):
All let's take one more phone call before we get
out of here. Chris, who we got? All right, We're
gonna try this again. Chris, Hey, hey, hold.
Speaker 18 (43:58):
On playing that video And he tried to pause it
because it was like overlapping back. Can I really hear y'all?
But yeah, it's been some years.
Speaker 16 (44:08):
Since I called.
Speaker 18 (44:08):
The last time our calls was I think thirteen years
ago talking Cowboys and anyways, I just want to touch
bases on the defense. I feel like Matt ebers Flew's
the defense. The main thing that needs to be corrected
for it to operate is in the middle. We don't
(44:30):
have a mic linebacker. Wilson can't play in space. Everybody
knows that he's good in the box. His interception came
off of mistake. It looked like to me he was
in the box at that moment when he got that interception.
And I don't feel that Samborn or Murray is a
guy you know if you're if you're the office opposing
(44:51):
team coming in.
Speaker 15 (44:52):
You don't have to look at Diggs, you don't have to.
Speaker 18 (44:54):
Look at Bland or Stewart. All the problems are in
the middle, and they're not containing the and that the edge.
There's no defensive contain on the edge. So the only
way I see we could correct it going forward is
to make some obvious personnel changes. As far as Matt,
(45:16):
he's a coach that kind of rubs me the wrong way,
But I know he has a good history. But while
when he was here, I believe it was during Wade
Phillips and uh, well, I think he might have been
here during Bill Parcells. I'm not but I recalled the Marcus.
(45:41):
We're complaining about the linebacker coach not wanting to make
changes prior to him leaving, and that was one of
the reasons why he left. I remember our defense becoming
stagnant and just it's it's just so predictable. That's what
worries me about Matt is the the what I hear
(46:03):
about in Chicago, him not wanting to change you. You
see the comments, so I don't like grits. I don't
care if you don't like grits. You just got to
understand what its what the idea of quick grits. If
you got quick grits, things are coming together quick, that's it.
You know, you shouldn't be having the little issues with Diggs.
(46:25):
Diggs is one of our best quarterbacks. Suicides Bland and Stewart, yea,
if they start losing confidence and what they're doing and
they can't go.
Speaker 16 (46:36):
To the coach and.
Speaker 18 (46:37):
Say, hey, these are.
Speaker 16 (46:38):
The things that.
Speaker 18 (46:39):
We feel that will make us feel comfortable. The same
way you go to your quarterback, what do you want
on this play?
Speaker 15 (46:47):
You should be going here players.
Speaker 18 (46:49):
You shouldn't be shutting them out, dogging them out. That's
just that's just I mean, I feel like I don't
really have a question as a fan. I'm just frustrated
because I feel like I've seen this coming.
Speaker 6 (47:08):
Appreciate the call man. We're out of time, Chris Man,
he got his thirteen years in work boy.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
He was holding on and on year.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
We appreciate you calling. Chris, thanks for listening. Fellas. It's
been good. Tomorrow hopefully it'll be better. What are we
doing tomorrow? Cowboys offense? Sure, Cowboys offense.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Cowboys offense, Washington Commander's defense.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Defense.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
Let's do that. That'll be fun.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
That'll be the fun day, be more fun than Thursday. Chris,
thanks for keeping us on the air. Josh, thanks for
keeping him company. Jim, hope you behave back there. We'll
be back tomorrow, same time, same place.
Speaker 7 (47:44):
On Hey with the boys.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
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