October 14, 2025 • 48 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The following.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
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the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, This is media Match,
a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling
takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we are media match on a Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
The Cowboys are off players day off there getting ready
to host the Washington Commanders and Dan Quinn on Sunday
at at and T Stadium, coming off that thirty to
twenty seven loss to the Carolina Panthers in which Rico
Daddle decided to go for two hundred and thirty nine
total yards up and he toted the ball thirty times
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for one hundred and eighty three yards, a six point
one yard averaging. By the way, the two thirty nine
total offense is a Carolina Panthers record. Gotta ask you
wasn't buckled up.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And I tried to tell you the Knuie that Rico
was taking the game seriously.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It was about the Cowboys taking it seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What was what was our bet?
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Again?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
The Cowboys had to win for us to even get
to the best. So we're not even going there, but.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It was about all games.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
All games.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
The bet was if the Cowboys win. And then it
was addressed by somebody post game and being like, yeah,
you know we were buckled up blah blah, but it
didn't even happen.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, because they wasn't buckled I will give you though.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Dak didn't mention it. He was like, you know, Rico
talk some mess and then he backed it up.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Credit to him, he said it, yan Ye Thomas said it,
Clowney said it, Tyler Smith said it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Everybody game is prompts. And when I talked to him, bro.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm telling rightfully.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So of those defensive players did not take him seriously,
just like you know, because even when Shotty comes in,
he's really making fun of him when he took when
he addresses it, and then Jerry before the game, I've
got it. The guys are scared out on the field.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
See one dude, be one dude took it seriously and
that that that happens from time to time where somebody's
playing with more purpose than somebody else.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Why they and his wife was y'all, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
If it's only in his own mind, it doesn't matter
y'all disrespected me. Y'all think I'm a buster, y'all think
I am worth the money. Let me let me show you.
Let me show you how worse some money. Absolutely, So
it was funny to me.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
It was great. I thought it was great. Puerto Rico, man,
he's a great dude.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
First carry of.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
The game, nine yard, dude nine.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I knew it was a wrap in terms of he
was going to do this thing when the first three carries,
not just the nine, but it's like nine, twelve and seven.
He had like three carries for twenty eight yards.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And I'm like, I think you went for forty five
in that opening drive.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Because you know, normally when you come out hyped, especially
in the first quarter of a game, the first run
is we hyped. We bust you up. There's no game
bucked that up. Dog, buckle up that. So when that
didn't happen, man, I was like, oh, they ain't ready.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was an eight play drive by Carolina. Eight play
drive sixty three yards. First played Dowdle nine yards. Played
two pass to Evans for twenty one yards. Play three
Doubtle left tackle twelve yards. Next play Young to Dowble
thirteen yards on a pass play, then Dowdell rushes for
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eight yards, then Young incomplete, then Dallas up the middle
for no game. Then they kicked the field goal, so
forty two yards. Was just sitting up here, man coming
out the gate, coming at you like mystical.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
If it ain't live, it ain't me.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And and then he was doing mystical here I go.
It was mystical. Yeah, I mean it was. It was.
It was embarrassing to me. It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing.
And Nick, you and I were in the locker.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Room real quiet after real real quiet.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was almost quieter than the
Bears one, because at least the Bears when they had
the ceedee lamb excuse to fall on, they didn't have
any excuse to fall on this on this loss. This
was a I will give Carolina credit. That is a
really physical team. We talked about it last week. That's
a physical football team. That is not the same Carolina
that we've gotten used to going out there and seeing
these last couple of years. But that's still a game
you should have won.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Here's here's kind of the problem. Okay, you start to
think about this and Jerry tried to give him credit
played soundby from Jerio. But the Carolina Panthers are a
three and three football team. All three wins have been
at home, be it Atlanta, Miami, and the Cowboys. There
are three losses at Jacksonville, at Arizona, at New England.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, the first step to being a decent team, man,
you gotta figure out how to win at home. Then
the second step is you figure out how to beat
bad teams on the road. Then the third step is
you figure out how to beat good teams on the road.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And Carolina will probably ended up being a getting over
five hundred. This week there are the Jets, so we'll
see if thinking of a game at the Jets.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But I heard this a few times already this week.
I can't believe we lost to the Bears. We lost
to the Panthers. You are the Bears, You are the Panthers,
you know what I mean? Like you're not above them.
I think you're what are the Cowboys nine thirteen and
one since it started last year?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I mean, you're a bad team. Chicago is tied for
last place in the North with Minnesota three and two.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, this is who you are. This is not
like some slooky dookie thing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Carolina's a third place team in their division. Only New Orleans,
who's won in five is worse. And so the Cowboys
are a two to three and one football team.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're not the Jets, You're not the Titans. You're just
you're the wrong above them.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But you're you're a team that's only beaten guys who
played the Medal Lands. Sul's it New York State champions.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, your two wins two teams who played the Medal
Lands who are in shambles and who are in shampbeles.
The offense for.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
The Jets is as bad as the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah. I was thinking about this the other day.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I was like, okay, lust thirty to twenty seven, and
then I thought of it. I said, you know what,
they didn't hit their average. Their average is thirty. They
didn't hit it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, not good. So Matt Eberflus catching heat rightfully, So
fans want him gone. Jerry Jones on one five three
the Fan this Morning had this to say about his
embattled defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He's had tremendous experience, He's dealt with adversity with a
long record not only with us, but with his tenure
at Chicago in Annapolis, and he's had some great successes,
had some very great successes, but he's had his tailcake.
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That's who I want in the foxhold with me, because
there's no such thing as having all the answers. And
so when I jumped at it, when I saw we
had a chance to get him, I still feel as
strongly as I did today we brought him in here.
And these things that we're dealing with here are not
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one two major things. There are a lot of little
things that you can't address and get right, and you
can adjust the nuances of them. And for instance, the
other day, we couldn't stop the run, yet we were
within a possession. If we drive that ball at the
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in the game, we got a good chance to win it.
We were up all day for the most part. And
so there's a lot of ways to win football games
and cluses dealing with nuances there that we can adjust
and change, and you do just and you do, you
do change, and there will be that. What's interesting is
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that the way the game panned out was very very
on point with the way that our coaches planned for
the game. And we just thought we could get more stops.
We thought we could physically do a better job with them,
and they were able to scheme us a little bit
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that to their credit, but we were in that game
close enough. What I think. I don't want to take
too long on the central, but uh, Carolina is easy
to overlook as a as a formidable matchup with us.
They match up right good against where we need the work,
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and so they were a tough, tough opponent for us
the other day. We almost pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
They need they match up where we need a little
bit of work. Because I was told, if I, if I,
if I remember correctly, did this to Kenney Clyt meant
you strong up against the run and you were going
to scheme to pass for us. That's what That's what
I remember hearing at the trade. So I'm not you know,
I love Jerry's birthday week, but I'm not really trying
to hear now, oh that's a part of the team.
(09:01):
We're not really strong.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I got to call b us on one point there
too where.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
That was stronger than me. I was trying to be
polite because birthday.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
He said he feels as strongly as he does. He
feels as strongly today as he did when he first
made the higher v Reflucers. No way, after seeing these
six games, there's no way thirty second pass defense, thirty
first in run defense. There's problems all over this defense.
There's no way you could be as confident as you
are today as you were then.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Agreement he might be because he can convince himself of
many things, just like this is the way we wanted
to play the game. I would imagine if we took
a private poll of the coaches, they did not want
to give up two hundred yards rushing in the game.
Now maybe they said, maybe if we give up two
hundred yards rushing, we won't give up a bunch of
fifty yard touchdown passes and we can hang around. But yeah,
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it's a they gonna have a hard time winning because
your defense. This is I mean, this is one of
the worst defenses I've ever seen up close. This is
worse than.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Twenty correct, worse than twenty And Mike Nolan was filayed,
and rightfully so, and he eventually was five. Now that
was Mike McCarthy's higher and the Joneses quickly ran him
off from brought in Dan Quinn.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
That's the difference too, fans wanting this to be a
quick get out ebra flu situation. It's that easy.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And the problem is and our friend Edward brings us
up all time. But if you want to play Fluc's style,
that's great, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You don't have the players.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You ain't got the players when so now it's a
it's this is two years. This is the worst thing
you can do. It's now a two or three year
process to do what get all the guys that plays
on that are smaller faster intellectually.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, the carpenter doesn't have his too much. And last
year you did the same thing to Mike Zimmer. Mike
Zimmer's defense works up front with big people at defensive tackle,
and you didn't have big people. And so to me,
I go back into when Dan Quinn went to Washington
junior one as a DC job. He'd have stayed here.
You keep that guy who understood what the players could
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and couldn't do in the scheme. He was there when
Dan brought him in to run it. He's now the
Washington's defensive coordinator here and they went to the NFC
Championship Game last year.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
But you now bring in two. This is year three
where you got.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Another guy who's got a whole different vision of what
these guys should be like. If you're going to bring
Matt Eberflus back next year, Nick, in my opinion, it's
real simple. Do what you did for dan Quinn. When
dan Quinn got here, they said what do you need?
They let him bring in his coaches, and then they
brought in players that fit what he wants to do.
That to me seems the fair thing of what they're
going to have to do if they want to bring
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him back and deem him, you know, salvageable.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
A small indictment on that part is Donovan Azaraku. You know,
granted the pressure has been there, but if you were
supposed to have you know, this all world Pass without
Michael Parsons, that was supposed to be a guy you
lean on to get sacks at this point, he hadn't
been able to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
So is that here, Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
He's second round pick.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Okay, the second round picks have been iffy around here.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Second round on the record, second round pick that on
the record, defensive coaches were on the table for at twelve.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, yes, that's that's cotton. Cotton wanted me twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right, that's a two pronged question. Number one. Yes, second
round picks around here have been iffy shady. That has
nothing to do with him as an individual supposed to
come in here and rush the passes.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Now, and this is what I will say, Things might
be a little bit different if number eleven was on
one side.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No, we was told he he's kind of overrated.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
That's what That's what I've been hearing for. Lesson you.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You you got common sense, that's what you got. Common sense? Man,
he s stopped.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He's not indispensable.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Stop playing with me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Man one step above just a guy. That's I've been getting.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Stopped being the contrarian here.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You and I know if Parsons on one side, life
is a lot easier for young Donovan as a Roku
and whoever else is over there. If Parsons was still here, Hey,
let's look at these second round.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Picks here lately.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We know they made We know they not.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Twenty twenty four Marshawn Kneeland another defensive end yees start.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
We need to really start having conversations about him and
where his production supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Man, can we put him on a milk carton.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, so him twenty twenty three, Luke Schoonmaker, Sorry
I didn't twenty twenty two, Sam Williams twenty twenty one, shameful,
Kelvin Joseph. He could throw it down.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
A good verse though good, he could.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Cut he I think he wasn't no Rico Gather, Thank you,
thank you. He wasn't Rico Gathering. He could throw a
verse out.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
They wasn't even cold Beasley.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So the last time he was definitely not a cold
easy so.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So the last time they had a second round pick
that worked out was twenty twenty. That was Trayvon Diggs,
who went off pro. He finished this bet, Yes to
trade it up. So then go back to twenty nineteen.
Tristan Hill, who, Yes, Tristan Hill, he's going to tackle.
Let's take a bit. He's still in the league.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I have no clue. Twenty eighteen Connor Williams.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He was a good player. Not in Dallas, right, got
to be good in Miami for twenty seventeen. Cheetawa woozy.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
He's still in the league.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I saw him in Baltimore twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That was a good pick. He Jayalen Smith In years now,
Jalen Smith was a I don't know. I mean, he
was an intriguing pick for about two years.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Twenty fifteen, Randy Gregory, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's a lot of second But they miss in the
second round. I understand why they miss. They have a
they have a franchise. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones philosophy of
in the second round, let's go grab a guy whose
first round, whose draft grade should be a first round,
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but he got some Deans on him for whatever injury
off the field, and let's see if we can steal
a first round pick. Now, to me, if you look
at the track record, that's been a very faulty approach.
But that's the approach they have consistently taken on draft day,
as opposed to taking a safer, more sure bet.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
The interesting part is you start to look at the
third rounders. The third rounders have seemingly given you more
than the second.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Rounders because they're not taking shots at the third round.
Third round, they're like, Okay, who's the best guy left me?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You think about twenty twenty four, your third round pick
was Cooper BB.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But see, that's why they do a good job in
fourth and fifth and sixth round because they go, oh,
who's the best guy left? Oh, here's that blinking light,
let's go grab him.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Twenty twenty three, tomorrow Overshaw now without the injuries. I mean,
this guy has been a better player at schoolm.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Even with the injuries, he's the best player in the class.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Right. Twenty twenty two you take Sam Williams. Two, you
take Jalen Tilburton. Three. Tolbert's been a better player, and
then it took Ferguson at.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Four the skinniest figure, right, yeah, hey, hey, twenty twenty one,
you take trade values coming down by the way.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Twenty twenty one, you take Kelvin joseph In two and
oh so ODIGGI easy three.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
This is what I've noticed, and it's interesting to me.
Flinoy has been up two weeks and it seems like
he's a bigger part of the offense than Tolbert, who's
been up for a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Trust, Trust and reliability.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, how can I have trust? And you're trying to
trade him and he can't.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
I mean, basically, I mean, it seems obvious that Flinoy
is like moved past Tolbert and he ain't been up.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He's literally been up for two weeks. I mean they
throw them, they given a reverse. I mean he's like
part of the offense.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Look is what it is and just wild and you
guys have both said it already. This is probably a
player that's gonna allow will be allowed to walk after
the season.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Now, he'll probably play in the league eight years because
he got that kind of talent. It's but whether he
ever unlocks it to become more than so.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
The kid from Boys Either had a couple of years ago,
Cedric what was his name? And he was good though
they let him go and went to Miami. You never
heard from again.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, but he was good here, but he couldn't turn
out of money. I mean the game like sevent millions
a year. He's still he's still at Miami.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I think he's gone now. I think he bounced back
the Saints.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, no, they moved on from him.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They did. They also say he was you know, he
had he had. He had a nice little chemistry with Dak,
got some nice run from him. But then they moved
on and there you go. This which is which is
what happens in the National Football League. You can't keep
everybody here, but.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're really only giving stars.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Wilson, Wilson, I'm talking about pick in twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Eighteen or is he a c K? He's something different
about his name.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yes, it's a c K.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Ced Wilson. Good, good shot there. All right, let's get
a break in here.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Why y'all ain't wearing hats today?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Man?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I wore a hat because y'all always wear hat. Is
because norths got stopped this week?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It is?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Maybe so did you leave yours at the.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Hall of Fame ceremony?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean, I mean you know we won. We won
our game. We were twenty fourth country.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
We moved up there, so ubro oh, twenty fourth in
the country if we were twenty four last week, moved
up here?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So asking man, that will happen?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Joe normally? Where ahead? Thank you, Jean Jacques Taylor, Nick
Harrison stru This is a player's lams.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
No, this is a media mashed players on.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Man, Give us up. Put some name on our respect,
some respect on our name whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I got your name right, that's your checks of cash.
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Speaker 6 (21:04):
Man, how about that?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yes, Sir Kirk Signetti getting things done.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You know what's interesting about that, because I've heard several
people say, well, they had two games last year against
Ohio State and Notre Dame, they got hammered in both
of them.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I didn't really believe that.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And because I'm a Buckey, I watched the entire Indiana
Ohio State game and the score was basically fourteen to
seven the whole game. And then we blocked the punt
and we ran a punt back and that's why, and
then it became they had to throw everything and then
so it was basically they didn't care about coming to
Ohio State last year and going toe to toe for
two and a half quarters, and so I didn't know
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that they were I didn't think they would win in Oregon,
but I certainly thought it would be a four quarter
game because with Signetti, he's got them in the We're
not scared of anybody mindset outside.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Of those two football games. When he's done the last year,
they've done impressive winning and.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They flow your doors off if you are not ready.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The interesting thing for hit me who all comes calling
after this season because they're going to be some high
profile jobs open.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Now, let me ask you, Andianna's got some money.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Would you lead? I think every everything is what am
I leaving for? How you get the Lincoln Riley package? Yeah,
if they're backing it up for you and they've got
a contract where you got all this cash and here's
the plane whenever you want it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I mean, if you get that kind of thing, Okay, like.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Those Oklahoma for Yeah, all those schools.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
At that level can do that if they choose to
do that.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
But are they That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Is Florida going to do that for you?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
If that open top?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm flipping in the round. If you're in Indiana and
you've been irrelevant for one hundred and twenty six years
in college football and you now enjoy being relevant to
match with your basketball program and you and then if
you're Signetti, and you go instead of being you know,
the next Woody Hayes, the next Joe Pod, the next
(22:58):
this the next day, I can be that.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I can be the dabble here Soul and Penn State.
Penn State's they fired James Frank that's a job that's opening.
I go back to Nick Saban when he was in
Michigan State and LSU came, and the thought process for
him was, and when they sold him as you got
a whole state, just protect the borders because we're losing
Peyton Manning, we're losing Marshall Fulk. There's a lot of
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talent here and they just go next door to Texas
and go get you a couple of kids. So he
did that at LSU. Clearly, if you're Kirk Signetti, you're
never going to be the best team in your own state.
And that was what Nick said. He's like, I'm never
going to be the team in state because I got
Michigan here and then I got Ohio State next to me,
so right here, I'm always going to be number three
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when it comes to kids. Notre Dame is always going
to be a bigger draw than Indiana. What you're doing
out there is great. You go to Penn State. There's
more money, it's more resources, It's an easier way to win.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Signetti though, And it's interesting because I just heard it
come out of his mouth the other day. He's chaining gaily.
You don't want to ab with a bunch of five stars.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
He liked these.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Threes and three and a half that he can mold
develop who ain't gonna ask him a whole bunch of
why we're doing this? Coach. He liked that, okay, And
so my point is, my point is he might not
mind because he's not competing against Satin catch. I know
the Dame is competing fit anyway. He don't want Ohio
States players. He wants TCU's players. I want to develop them.
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I want to get them here. I want them to stay.
I don't want them. You know, hey, where am I
raised at? I don't want them kind of guys. I
want those guys that are happy to be here. They
want to be here, they want to be coach hard
and not and showed them we can compete with the best.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's gonna be interesting now, it's gonna be really in
Florida State could be in the market. So he's going
to have some tremendous options and Indiana, sure you going
to Mark Cuban and other people say, right, it's a
check here, but it's gonna be hard. I mean, how okay,
who's the last person that turned down you know these
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blue blood like oh really? I mean Matt Campbell maybe
in Iowa State. How's that working out? We're working out
of him right now.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
I think about Shane Latreill a few years ago at
un T turning down Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, Dan, Kansas.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Now he's out of a coaching job.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Latrell, he had both k both both jobs and such
in the Sunflower State, turn them both down.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Signetti has a very similar decision to make the Joey
maguire right now, because they're both.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
You talk about all those comparison.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
You talk about all those things working against them. You're
never going to be the blue blood in your state.
You're going to be recruiting a much different player than
the Texas or the Texas A and M's or even
THO Oklahoma's. But you got the money, you got the
resources where you're at, and it's a whole different landscape
of college football. You're going to see the Indiana's in
the Texas, Texas and the I think Houston has some
money like that too. They're just putting them into awful
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resources right now. But so very similar.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, I've talked to Joey about that in the past,
and Joey's talked so much about you know, I'm a
I'm a West Texas Red Raider.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
This is me. This fits me, like.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Folks, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, and he's a Texan. I
don't know, Sicknetti's you know, Hey, I'm an Indiana guy.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Well, who's your guy?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I think I think the programs are a little bit
different in that aspect.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
And let's just be honest. If they're going to keep spending.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Money like that in this Big twelve, this dude can
win this conference and be he can he can sit
up on top of here for a minute. You can
be the new Oklahoma in the Big twelve. If this
is the commitment they're going to continue to get that, yes, yeah, yeah.
And so if that's the case and you're say you're
Texas guy and you're comfortable, I mean, for me, I
would say, you know, if Joe, somebody wants to come
get Joe, who let's just say, let's say LSU moves
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on from from Brian, which you know, that's that's a
check you're gonna have to write. But you know, our guy,
Danny mccraeb'stead not happy, not happy right now. But if
you move on from Brian Kelly to l at LSU
and your Joey mcgwuidd, now you got that kind of compensation.
That's a very interesting conversation to Heennis, because you're talking
about a whole state of tremendous talent and oh, by
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the way, you've been a high school coach in Texas
and you know how to recruit. That's that's a that's
a tough job to turn down. So you know, tell me,
tell me what the options are. But I just think
if you're in Indiana, it's not going to be hard
to make a fantastic case. It's some of these schools
of hey, this is what we can do for you
that that that you won't be able to get in Indiana.
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Unless he just says, you know, I'm gonna be that guy.
I'm buckle up here, I'm all good. I want to
make Indiana football matter.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
It would have to be a significant step up if
I'm Kurt Signetti, Penn State isn't a high enough jump
for me to for me, what is soul Florida, Florida
or trying to think one of these.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
School states that's a blue blood job.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
It is. But at the same conference, you have arguably
the same amount of resources in Indiana as they do
at Penn State monetarily wise, I'll disagree with you that
you should see the money they're putting in that program.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
It's it's why they've been able.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
To recruit the they're putting up in that Pen State.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
And sure, sure, I'm not discounting that Indiana's got more
resources than you think, though.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I mean have and this is just me, but I
think a Big ten football right now, it's Ohio State, Michigan,
Penn State.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Those are three jobs. Those are three jobs, and.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Those are or as a buddy of mine used to
uh Oregon and in there, you know, they're not getting
that kind of revenue money like the other ones are
because they're getting half that cash coming from from from
the PAC twelve. But buddy of mine used to say
when he was he was a recruiter for TCU basketball,
He's like you called me news news.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I always go in their room, show me, show you
the posters.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
He said. It was never TCU basketball post on anybody's wall.
And then before that he was recruiting at Carolina South.
Carolina's news was never never basketball poster, Gancock basketball anybody's room.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
There's not that in Indiana. It is if you're a
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, and some of those different. You know, what, do
you have fifty thousand seat stadium in Indiana, you're just feeling,
you're feeling good. They wiping out one hundred, one hundred
thousd in Penn State. It's a different level.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
It's a little bit different though, when you can go
to let's say this four star receiver, right, let's say
he's in Let's say he's in Chicago. Okay, Penn State Indiana,
they're both recruiting him. They have the same bag on
the table for him. You can go to Penn State,
you can compete with all these other guys that have
the same bag, or you can go to Indiana be like, hey,
you're gonna be wide receiver one day one. I just
think there's more I think there's more opportunity and more
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resources at Indiana based on the hand that s Kurt
Signetty has been dealt and with the resources that they
can continue to have. Talk to Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban's
throwing some money in that program too. They have some
big time donors that with this nil era, it has
opened up multiple programs to be able to dump money into.
I mean, Texas Tech is the best example. Indiana is
one of them. Illinois is another one. You know, they've
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been consistently top twenty in the NIL era, that's no mistake.
I think if they had the right guy in there,
we could be talking about them instead of Indiana arresting that.
The thing is.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
When you talk about resources and you talk about that
private equity deal that the Big ten's about the sign
those schools about to get paid.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And so let me throw one out here. Yeah, and
they've got money. They've they've demonstrated already with their basketball program.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
We'll go, we'll go pay a high power coach. Arkansas. Yeah,
you're signatty.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Arkansas comes to you with a big old bag Tyson
chicken money, Jerry Jones flying you on the plane on
down there. I mean, beat them about it myself.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I ain't going to Wisconsin. I mean, I ain't going
to Arkansas.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I'm just asking because at the end of the day,
I did not see coach John Caler Perry leaving Kentucky
to go to Arkansas, and I knew things had gotten
to the point where Kentucky. He and Kentucky were like, hey, man,
I don't really like you, no more than you don't
like me. It was gonna cost you a whole lot
to buy me out. Let me go here. But what
did he do with Arkansas? Good job what you got.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I can see they've already thrown the money in for
Calip Perry. That's the difference at Arkansas that that money
is already there. They need to show return on investment
before they can go back to those same people and
be like, hey, let's do over here what you did
over there, even though we haven't won yet.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Do you think really twist Jerry Jones make football good
at Arkansas?
Speaker 6 (31:02):
No, Jerry Jones is let's put him out of the question.
He can. He can dump as much money into the
Arkansas program as he wants.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But we can't.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
Tyson Chicken, you know you're going to Tyson and being like, hey.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
But what do they all care about? The most I
mean they like Arkansas, they.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Like it, but they've had much more success in basketball
than football.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But that doesn't that doesn't mean that's not what they
want to do.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
You know. It's like and you the boosters all they
won't they all want football. They want them. You know,
Ry j ain't sitting up here talking too many times
about Nolan richardson forty ad minutes of hell, but he's
showing up talking about that Arkansas football. We are transition
from Jerry and in Arkansas to Jerry and the Dallas Cowboys.
So he spoke about everything going on there with the
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Speaker 1 (34:34):
Long, one in five, he was guy in the moment
he gave up to play call.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Is that now the worst run football organization?
Speaker 10 (34:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Uh, let me see. Uh it's rivaling the Jets, but
I think they're worse because they've had like three coaches
and two gms like you five ran karthin to hire
a GM who's first hire lasted seventeen games and he
got fired too, And I mean that's that's really almost
a fireable offense.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Well, one of the fireable offenses. You just gotta go
out to management. You let Mike Frabile get out of
the building. Yeah, that boom. I mean, what are we doing? Yeah?
Because equality NFL coach? Right, what are we doing? You
already see the difference he's making in New England here.
So that's why I said, is this the worst run
organization out there going around right now? I mean, the
Raiders are gonna give a run for the money because
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made a bunch of mistakes here and the Jets are Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And then this is why it matters who drafts you
when you're a quarterback, because they can really just ruin
your career.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
And yes, you have.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Something to do with it, but at another level, you
have very little to do with it.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And what's right?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
What is your philosophy? I mean, I remember when Bill
Parcells was here, how they helped create We're going to
change things. These are the types of players we're drafting.
I mean Bill talked about, you know, we're drafting guys
who've got been productive at big schools, guys who've been captains.
You know, he had he had a certain type of
player that he wanted here, and they did that when
they drafted guys like Kevin Burnett and they drafted Swag
(36:04):
who they end up getting to Marcus where there are
a lot of certain got Jason Whitten. They got guys
who produced, guys who were doing things, and that philosophy
ended up carrying them even well passed when he was
gone with Wade Phillips had taken over.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
What are you?
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Who are you? And I don't know when I look
at the Titans, when I look at the Jets that
they can say who they are, what is it they do? Well?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
What can they hang their hat on?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Right now? Poor Tony Poller, I mean ibably went home
and have we heard his name that brought it up
and thought about I mean put TP Glad he got paid,
but wow, wow.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
And cam Ward poor, I feel more. I feel worse
for cam Ward. He's not the one who got paid
Tony Poler did. Yeah, as far as you know, positional
money goes.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, speaking of quarterbacks and positional money, Dak Prescott highest
paid quarterback in the league right now, I'm playing like it.
In three games, over eight hundred yards of passing, eleven
touchdowns and one interception. Unfore, fortunately for Dak Prescott, they
lost to the Carolina Panthers, and they tied the Green
Bay Packers, and they beat the New York Jets, and
(37:10):
Dak at the podium said they thought they were going
to get the football back after that horrible three and
out when they had the ball with fantastic field positions
there forty six and went three and out and going backwards.
He has to do on near play perfect nick in
order for these guys you can have chance.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, I was six minutes left. He should expect to
get the ball back. I don't blame him for that,
but man, those that first down play really spoke the
end for that drive. Starting at the forty six you
run the screen loss of seven I think it was,
and then you have to go check down, check down,
because you know the Panthers were playing at the first
down marker at that point. So that drive killed it obviously,
But you expect to get the ball back. You should
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get the ball back in that situation. It's the Panthers,
you should not. It's not the best running game in
the NFL, it's the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I was about a minute into the drive when I
think I tweeted out, Oh, they're not go and get
the ball back because and it's because because they could
run the ball like that, they didn't have to pass,
which means the clock wasn't going to stop, and they
were and there was no indication you could stop them,
so they were going to just keep pounding first downs,
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and the one time they had a chance to stop them,
what happened pass interference.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So the Cowboys got the ball back at eight eighteen
in the game, and it was tied at twenty seven
first and ten. That short passage who Javante was minus five,
then second fifteenth from the forty one, they go back
to Javonte's negative seven and then on the third down
you throw it to the hunterd lip key for four
yards and then they punt. And they were the Panthers
(38:40):
when they got the ball back with six or seven
and ran it out. It was a third and seven
at the Carolina seventeen. That's to play the game, and
it was Leget Well, actually I'll disagree. I think here
was your player of the game. So they kept the
ball get first intent the Carolina twenty nine. It was
a fourth and fourth, that fourth and four, and then
they ran that slant hunter Infro picked it up two
seven yards that fourth and fourth with two thirty one
(39:01):
to go.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
If you don't commit to pass interference, you're never there
for the butterfly fick. The drive is over and you punt,
so that play never happens because they punt on third
and seven from now on seventeen.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And the eveling thing, I I have to go back
and off the top of my head, I thought it
was just kind of one of those I don't, I don't,
I can't say for sure it was but it just
looked at me like, you know, you go either way.
You know, it can go either way in the game.
You can say yes, you can say no. But that
fourth down call they played off, he runs a slant, Bam,
he gets in there.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, your boy's supposed to go over there and do
But if you look at this the play, he doesn't
go right to the spot. He he steps, takes like
two steps back, and then he goes. If he just goes,
he's probably there to knock it down.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
So yeah, that's you know, to me, forty four Okay,
that's boom. You know, show ends and and they they
take it off. But six minutes and seven seconds in
the football game, I just can't think of the last
time I saw something like that.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You talk, what I mean, we saw seventeen plays in
ninety whatever that that twelve thousand minute drive the Bears
had it in the third quarter that effectively ended that game.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Because I'm talking about the end of the game, you know,
like the two talking about two minute offense or three
minute offense to end the game. Six so seven I
can't for me, I can't remember the last time I
saw that. And it was also just watching being there too.
It's like you're just watching them, you just looking old.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
That's until your defense can destroy the game, no matter
how good your offense is. Because like even in the
Bears game, they took that whole third quarter with the drive,
so the game's essentially over now it's thirty one to
fourteen with only one quarter left.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
But you know, you know, but even there and Nick,
we're sitting there, it just after the flee flicker play,
it just never felt like they were in it. It
was just like, man, these these guys are getting handled.
They just getting handled the whole they're holding on. They
getting handled for you know, when a dude gets take
it right, Rake raked out of the ball, just raked
out your hands. And he just never felt like they
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were in that game here because the Panthers, you're thinking,
you're thinking they're they're going to win. They're gonna figure out.
It's gonna be sloppy, like like the Giants, you better.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Figure it out.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
They're gonna figured it out.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
The difference was, you know, fourteen runs or seven yards
or more like normally if you get one hundred and
eighty three yards somewhere along the way, you busted one
for forty fifty, sixty seventy somewhere. This was just boom hammered.
And so it's like.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Watching a box or just continually tap somebody in their
eyes and the cowboy the next one in there. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
It was awful.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
It was awful.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
When Budd beat up Spence, man, that's what it was like.
You can't wait for Spencer to get back in it.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
And it wasn't no but even eat them up. But
even that the cowboy that know, you know what they no,
I won't give him that because the cowboys who had
a shot shot at you get your eyes shot right exactly,
no shot. But it was somebody somebody say this man
from himself. But this guy was the eye was shut.
You were still hitting him. You couldn't see. But you know,
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it's like Joe Fraser and throwing them Manilla. You know
he was getting beat he was hitting he and he
just had a couple more than you. But it still
went down to the end. This was this was Rico.
Rico punched him in the eye. Man made him take it.
Then you said they would buckle up. That was that
was that was That was an embarrassing locker room afterwards.
Man everybody just owned up. Yeah he did that.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
That was the saddest part he did that when you looked.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
At Washington and I realized we got the rist of
the week. But how do how do how do you
go by stopping Jaydon Danmes in that offense?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I mean, if you can't.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Slowing it down, like you don't have to stop it?
Can you just slow it down enough?
Speaker 3 (42:44):
You can't stop Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I mean, you know, Brun, you know the problem with
this with this is the Cowboys are two three and one.
This was the soft part of the schedule.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
This was the make hay.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
This was put the money into the eight so in
case we get laid off, we got six months salary s.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
That's what this part of the season was.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Man and instead of four and two or you know,
maybe five and one if something breaks right for us.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Well you think about this is what they've got the
next three weeks before the bye, it's still time. It
is home against Washington, You're at Denver and then a
home game against Kyler Murray and the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
In the back in the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Right, but I'm just saying, I'm looking I'm looking right
here before the bye, right, here.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I'm gonna tell you, like I told, can we say
chill on here? Yeah, our old friend chill They're not
good enough to do anything other than is there practice tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Let me show up and prepare for practice tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it's augling.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
They gotta go three and oh they got to go
into that by five, three and one or what that's
to give them a chance or what they How many
how the Strap show fired up?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
How many wins did you have them this year?
Speaker 6 (43:54):
After the Parsons trade. I think I had him at eight,
eight or nine.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
See, I had him at six, and after the Parsons
trade really went to more like five.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I think about yeah, part I was like five or six.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
So I mean, right now they're they're really, they're really
all They're on points and six and at this point
in time, the ones I was counting on they're not getting. Yeah,
you know, that's that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I thought you're gonna put Caroline in the bank. That
didn't happen. I thought you push Chicago in the bank.
That didn't happen. So that's why, you know, a game
like Washington's very critical. It's gonna be hard to go
to Denver problem. The problem is cal Murray doesn't lose
it at trying to hear that he might not play
it this right.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, but you know they lost to Josh Dobbs, so
it don't really matter. True.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
When your defense is just bad every.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
There's no there's no bankable games because your defense dumps
everybody in the game.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yes, yeah, when you're scoring thirty any other team is
scoring thirty one or yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's a problem. They gotta fix it.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
But Jerry says, there are little things that got to
get fixed, and you ain't still believes in Matt Ebraflus
and the ebra Flus is good and then I.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Checked the pass rushy man, that's what he said. I know,
I know, just a deepest part of the team, I think.
I mean, I'm paraphrasing, I.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Know, I know.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Yeah, I'm just pointing on you all. I'm just pointing
in you all. We're forty five minutes through the show.
You are the self proclaimed old heads and no shut
off for D'Angelo. Man, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Hey man, you know what's famous song with him dancing
Nicked on the video?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
That can I can I say, Nick, I'm surprised you
knew that. I'm surprised you knew who he was. But
I've got the D'Angelo station pulled up on my serious
X him app RPD.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
That's I passed Nick my phone, that's my hiking check.
And I pulled out the naked video for and I
said for the ladies.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
The di'angelo station.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
So we know it.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
As soon as it happened, man went straight to the
to the series X.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I know I'm a little young for that.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
You Mama raised you, right, Mama raised you right.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Baby. Look at you, boy, soul brother Nick, you and
you and you are a man down in Miami coach.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
So all right, all right? You know somebody said my
pants looked like looked like his. I was like, now
they're too low, they are not high enough. They not
call me that man. Only one of us is about
to be employed here in about two weeks though, So.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
You know what fired me?
Speaker 6 (46:08):
And I at least I'm in great shape these checks.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
These folks out here again. Can I get fired?
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Can I be James Franklin? Can I tell you something
that's not a bad life? No?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Because AHPN did that to me, And I was like, oh,
so this was like to be a college by something
months on the company. That's right before I started working
at NBC with Nuie. And this is the funniest thing.
Real quick, we made the announcement on Facebook. Oh, I'm
thrilled to dons of accepted position with NBC and my
boy Knuie and positive Pat dude, I promise you I
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had not posted that more than an hour, ringing ring, Oh, congratulations,
mister Taylor.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
When do you start?
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I believe our contract extend is over August thirty first,
I started September first. You don't pay me all this money,
I'll be like James Franklin. I wasn't looking hard for
a job.
Speaker 6 (46:54):
So there was a clause in James Franklin's contract where
he has to look for a job and if he
is not paid more than eight million dollars or if
he's not paid eight million dollars at least by his
next employer, Penn State has to make up the difference.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Right now, James Franklin is getting six hundred and sixty
thousand dollars a month not to work.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
Jimbo Fisher, that's really the life. I mean, he is
just chilling and bring him on his on his.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Timbo trying to get back though in the worst way.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Man.
Speaker 8 (47:20):
See probably means you got out of money. But what
you gonna do Your wife is not used to having you.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Around after after you golf so much.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
And you take a couple of vacations.
Speaker 10 (47:28):
It is.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
It is bad.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
But I saw I saw Jimbo at Chapel Hill for
the TCU Carolina game. Yeah, Jimbo had on a purple tie,
went on up.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
To Daniel pulling.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
The president of TCU meant the a d I'm like, well,
you ain't even slick man.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
That's dirty work, dirty dirty, you know. Yeah, and then
he goes up to Sunny. How you doing, Sonny, Good job,
good job.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, I'm like, well look at yeah, it's pretty funny man.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:54):
He had baby blue draws on that night.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Well, you know, I don't know about that, man.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Those the people that because it wasn't eighty, the people
that hired him, they're gonna, they gonna they'll probably standing
there with him. They probably will. Nick Harris appreciate you.
Thank John, Jack Taylor appreciate you. We'll do it again
tomorrow right here on the media match for Chris Beam
and everybody here at Dallas cowboys dot com. We'll talk
to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
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a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling
takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we are media match on a Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
The Cowboys are off players day off there getting ready
to host the Washington Commanders and Dan Quinn on Sunday
at at and T Stadium, coming off that thirty to
twenty seven loss to the Carolina Panthers in which Rico
Daddle decided to go for two hundred and thirty nine
total yards up and he toted the ball thirty times
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for one hundred and eighty three yards, a six point
one yard averaging. By the way, the two thirty nine
total offense is a Carolina Panthers record. Gotta ask you
wasn't buckled up.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And I tried to tell you the Knuie that Rico
was taking the game seriously.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
It was about the Cowboys taking it seriously.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
What was what was our bet?
Speaker 7 (01:13):
Again?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
The Cowboys had to win for us to even get
to the best. So we're not even going there, but.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It was about all games.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
All games.
Speaker 6 (01:21):
The bet was if the Cowboys win. And then it
was addressed by somebody post game and being like, yeah,
you know we were buckled up blah blah, but it
didn't even happen.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, because they wasn't buckled I will give you though.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Dak didn't mention it. He was like, you know, Rico
talk some mess and then he backed it up.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Credit to him, he said it, yan Ye Thomas said it,
Clowney said it, Tyler Smith said it.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Everybody game is prompts. And when I talked to him, bro.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I'm telling rightfully.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
So of those defensive players did not take him seriously,
just like you know, because even when Shotty comes in,
he's really making fun of him when he took when
he addresses it, and then Jerry before the game, I've
got it. The guys are scared out on the field.
Speaker 8 (02:00):
See one dude, be one dude took it seriously and
that that that happens from time to time where somebody's
playing with more purpose than somebody else.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Why they and his wife was y'all, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
If it's only in his own mind, it doesn't matter
y'all disrespected me. Y'all think I'm a buster, y'all think
I am worth the money. Let me let me show you.
Let me show you how worse some money. Absolutely, So
it was funny to me.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
It was great. I thought it was great. Puerto Rico, man,
he's a great dude.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
First carry of.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
The game, nine yard, dude nine.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I knew it was a wrap in terms of he
was going to do this thing when the first three carries,
not just the nine, but it's like nine, twelve and seven.
He had like three carries for twenty eight yards.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And I'm like, I think you went for forty five
in that opening drive.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Because you know, normally when you come out hyped, especially
in the first quarter of a game, the first run
is we hyped. We bust you up. There's no game
bucked that up. Dog, buckle up that. So when that
didn't happen, man, I was like, oh, they ain't ready.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
It was an eight play drive by Carolina. Eight play
drive sixty three yards. First played Dowdle nine yards. Played
two pass to Evans for twenty one yards. Play three
Doubtle left tackle twelve yards. Next play Young to Dowble
thirteen yards on a pass play, then Dowdell rushes for
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eight yards, then Young incomplete, then Dallas up the middle
for no game. Then they kicked the field goal, so
forty two yards. Was just sitting up here, man coming
out the gate, coming at you like mystical.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
If it ain't live, it ain't me.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And and then he was doing mystical here I go.
It was mystical. Yeah, I mean it was. It was.
It was embarrassing to me. It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing.
And Nick, you and I were in the locker.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Room real quiet after real real quiet.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was almost quieter than the
Bears one, because at least the Bears when they had
the ceedee lamb excuse to fall on, they didn't have
any excuse to fall on this on this loss. This
was a I will give Carolina credit. That is a
really physical team. We talked about it last week. That's
a physical football team. That is not the same Carolina
that we've gotten used to going out there and seeing
these last couple of years. But that's still a game
you should have won.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Here's here's kind of the problem. Okay, you start to
think about this and Jerry tried to give him credit
played soundby from Jerio. But the Carolina Panthers are a
three and three football team. All three wins have been
at home, be it Atlanta, Miami, and the Cowboys. There
are three losses at Jacksonville, at Arizona, at New England.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Okay, the first step to being a decent team, man,
you gotta figure out how to win at home. Then
the second step is you figure out how to beat
bad teams on the road. Then the third step is
you figure out how to beat good teams on the road.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And Carolina will probably ended up being a getting over
five hundred. This week there are the Jets, so we'll
see if thinking of a game at the Jets.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But I heard this a few times already this week.
I can't believe we lost to the Bears. We lost
to the Panthers. You are the Bears, You are the Panthers,
you know what I mean? Like you're not above them.
I think you're what are the Cowboys nine thirteen and
one since it started last year?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I mean, you're a bad team. Chicago is tied for
last place in the North with Minnesota three and two.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, this is who you are. This is not
like some slooky dookie thing.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Carolina's a third place team in their division. Only New Orleans,
who's won in five is worse. And so the Cowboys
are a two to three and one football team.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're not the Jets, You're not the Titans. You're just
you're the wrong above them.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But you're you're a team that's only beaten guys who
played the Medal Lands. Sul's it New York State champions.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, your two wins two teams who played the Medal
Lands who are in shambles and who are in shampbeles.
The offense for.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
The Jets is as bad as the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah. I was thinking about this the other day.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I was like, okay, lust thirty to twenty seven, and
then I thought of it. I said, you know what,
they didn't hit their average. Their average is thirty. They
didn't hit it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, not good. So Matt Eberflus catching heat rightfully, So
fans want him gone. Jerry Jones on one five three
the Fan this Morning had this to say about his
embattled defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
He's had tremendous experience, He's dealt with adversity with a
long record not only with us, but with his tenure
at Chicago in Annapolis, and he's had some great successes,
had some very great successes, but he's had his tailcake.
(06:41):
That's who I want in the foxhold with me, because
there's no such thing as having all the answers. And
so when I jumped at it, when I saw we
had a chance to get him, I still feel as
strongly as I did today we brought him in here.
And these things that we're dealing with here are not
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one two major things. There are a lot of little
things that you can't address and get right, and you
can adjust the nuances of them. And for instance, the
other day, we couldn't stop the run, yet we were
within a possession. If we drive that ball at the
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in the game, we got a good chance to win it.
We were up all day for the most part. And
so there's a lot of ways to win football games
and cluses dealing with nuances there that we can adjust
and change, and you do just and you do, you
do change, and there will be that. What's interesting is
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that the way the game panned out was very very
on point with the way that our coaches planned for
the game. And we just thought we could get more stops.
We thought we could physically do a better job with them,
and they were able to scheme us a little bit
(08:10):
that to their credit, but we were in that game
close enough. What I think. I don't want to take
too long on the central, but uh, Carolina is easy
to overlook as a as a formidable matchup with us.
They match up right good against where we need the work,
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and so they were a tough, tough opponent for us
the other day. We almost pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
They need they match up where we need a little
bit of work. Because I was told, if I, if I,
if I remember correctly, did this to Kenney Clyt meant
you strong up against the run and you were going
to scheme to pass for us. That's what That's what
I remember hearing at the trade. So I'm not you know,
I love Jerry's birthday week, but I'm not really trying
to hear now, oh that's a part of the team.
(09:01):
We're not really strong.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I got to call b us on one point there
too where.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
That was stronger than me. I was trying to be
polite because birthday.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
He said he feels as strongly as he does. He
feels as strongly today as he did when he first
made the higher v Reflucers. No way, after seeing these
six games, there's no way thirty second pass defense, thirty
first in run defense. There's problems all over this defense.
There's no way you could be as confident as you
are today as you were then.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Agreement he might be because he can convince himself of
many things, just like this is the way we wanted
to play the game. I would imagine if we took
a private poll of the coaches, they did not want
to give up two hundred yards rushing in the game.
Now maybe they said, maybe if we give up two
hundred yards rushing, we won't give up a bunch of
fifty yard touchdown passes and we can hang around. But yeah,
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it's a they gonna have a hard time winning because
your defense. This is I mean, this is one of
the worst defenses I've ever seen up close. This is
worse than.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Twenty correct, worse than twenty And Mike Nolan was filayed,
and rightfully so, and he eventually was five. Now that
was Mike McCarthy's higher and the Joneses quickly ran him
off from brought in Dan Quinn.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
That's the difference too, fans wanting this to be a
quick get out ebra flu situation. It's that easy.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And the problem is and our friend Edward brings us
up all time. But if you want to play Fluc's style,
that's great, that's fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
You don't have the players.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
You ain't got the players when so now it's a
it's this is two years. This is the worst thing
you can do. It's now a two or three year
process to do what get all the guys that plays
on that are smaller faster intellectually.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Yeah, the carpenter doesn't have his too much. And last
year you did the same thing to Mike Zimmer. Mike
Zimmer's defense works up front with big people at defensive tackle,
and you didn't have big people. And so to me,
I go back into when Dan Quinn went to Washington
junior one as a DC job. He'd have stayed here.
You keep that guy who understood what the players could
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and couldn't do in the scheme. He was there when
Dan brought him in to run it. He's now the
Washington's defensive coordinator here and they went to the NFC
Championship Game last year.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
But you now bring in two. This is year three
where you got.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Another guy who's got a whole different vision of what
these guys should be like. If you're going to bring
Matt Eberflus back next year, Nick, in my opinion, it's
real simple. Do what you did for dan Quinn. When
dan Quinn got here, they said what do you need?
They let him bring in his coaches, and then they
brought in players that fit what he wants to do.
That to me seems the fair thing of what they're
going to have to do if they want to bring
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him back and deem him, you know, salvageable.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
A small indictment on that part is Donovan Azaraku. You know,
granted the pressure has been there, but if you were
supposed to have you know, this all world Pass without
Michael Parsons, that was supposed to be a guy you
lean on to get sacks at this point, he hadn't
been able to do that.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
So is that here, Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
He's second round pick.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Okay, the second round picks have been iffy around here.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Second round on the record, second round pick that on
the record, defensive coaches were on the table for at twelve.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, yes, that's that's cotton. Cotton wanted me twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Right, that's a two pronged question. Number one. Yes, second
round picks around here have been iffy shady. That has
nothing to do with him as an individual supposed to
come in here and rush the passes.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Now, and this is what I will say, Things might
be a little bit different if number eleven was on
one side.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No, we was told he he's kind of overrated.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
That's what That's what I've been hearing for. Lesson you.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
You you got common sense, that's what you got. Common sense? Man,
he s stopped.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He's not indispensable.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Stop playing with me.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Man one step above just a guy. That's I've been getting.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Stopped being the contrarian here.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You and I know if Parsons on one side, life
is a lot easier for young Donovan as a Roku
and whoever else is over there. If Parsons was still here, Hey,
let's look at these second round.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Picks here lately.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
We know they made We know they not.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Twenty twenty four Marshawn Kneeland another defensive end yees start.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
We need to really start having conversations about him and
where his production supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Man, can we put him on a milk carton.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, so him twenty twenty three, Luke Schoonmaker, Sorry
I didn't twenty twenty two, Sam Williams twenty twenty one, shameful,
Kelvin Joseph. He could throw it down.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
A good verse though good, he could.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Cut he I think he wasn't no Rico Gather, Thank you,
thank you. He wasn't Rico Gathering. He could throw a
verse out.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
They wasn't even cold Beasley.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So the last time he was definitely not a cold
easy so.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
So the last time they had a second round pick
that worked out was twenty twenty. That was Trayvon Diggs,
who went off pro. He finished this bet, Yes to
trade it up. So then go back to twenty nineteen.
Tristan Hill, who, Yes, Tristan Hill, he's going to tackle.
Let's take a bit. He's still in the league.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I have no clue. Twenty eighteen Connor Williams.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
He was a good player. Not in Dallas, right, got
to be good in Miami for twenty seventeen. Cheetawa woozy.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
He's still in the league.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I saw him in Baltimore twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That was a good pick. He Jayalen Smith In years now,
Jalen Smith was a I don't know. I mean, he
was an intriguing pick for about two years.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Twenty fifteen, Randy Gregory, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's a lot of second But they miss in the
second round. I understand why they miss. They have a
they have a franchise. Jerry Jones Stephen Jones philosophy of
in the second round, let's go grab a guy whose
first round, whose draft grade should be a first round,
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but he got some Deans on him for whatever injury
off the field, and let's see if we can steal
a first round pick. Now, to me, if you look
at the track record, that's been a very faulty approach.
But that's the approach they have consistently taken on draft day,
as opposed to taking a safer, more sure bet.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
The interesting part is you start to look at the
third rounders. The third rounders have seemingly given you more
than the second.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Rounders because they're not taking shots at the third round.
Third round, they're like, Okay, who's the best guy left me?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
You think about twenty twenty four, your third round pick
was Cooper BB.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But see, that's why they do a good job in
fourth and fifth and sixth round because they go, oh,
who's the best guy left? Oh, here's that blinking light,
let's go grab him.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Twenty twenty three, tomorrow Overshaw now without the injuries. I mean,
this guy has been a better player at schoolm.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Even with the injuries, he's the best player in the class.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Right. Twenty twenty two you take Sam Williams. Two, you
take Jalen Tilburton. Three. Tolbert's been a better player, and
then it took Ferguson at.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Four the skinniest figure, right, yeah, hey, hey, twenty twenty one,
you take trade values coming down by the way.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Twenty twenty one, you take Kelvin joseph In two and
oh so ODIGGI easy three.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
This is what I've noticed, and it's interesting to me.
Flinoy has been up two weeks and it seems like
he's a bigger part of the offense than Tolbert, who's
been up for a year and a half.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Trust, Trust and reliability.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Okay, how can I have trust? And you're trying to
trade him and he can't.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
I mean, basically, I mean, it seems obvious that Flinoy
is like moved past Tolbert and he ain't been up.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He's literally been up for two weeks. I mean they
throw them, they given a reverse. I mean he's like
part of the offense.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Look is what it is and just wild and you
guys have both said it already. This is probably a
player that's gonna allow will be allowed to walk after
the season.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Now, he'll probably play in the league eight years because
he got that kind of talent. It's but whether he
ever unlocks it to become more than so.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
The kid from Boys Either had a couple of years ago,
Cedric what was his name? And he was good though
they let him go and went to Miami. You never
heard from again.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
No, but he was good here, but he couldn't turn
out of money. I mean the game like sevent millions
a year. He's still he's still at Miami.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I think he's gone now. I think he bounced back
the Saints.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, no, they moved on from him.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They did. They also say he was you know, he
had he had. He had a nice little chemistry with Dak,
got some nice run from him. But then they moved
on and there you go. This which is which is
what happens in the National Football League. You can't keep
everybody here, but.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
You're really only giving stars.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Wilson, Wilson, I'm talking about pick in twenty.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Eighteen or is he a c K? He's something different
about his name.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yes, it's a c K.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Ced Wilson. Good, good shot there. All right, let's get
a break in here.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Why y'all ain't wearing hats today?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Man?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I wore a hat because y'all always wear hat. Is
because norths got stopped this week?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It is?
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Maybe so did you leave yours at the.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Hall of Fame ceremony?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I mean, I mean you know we won. We won
our game. We were twenty fourth country.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
We moved up there, so ubro oh, twenty fourth in
the country if we were twenty four last week, moved
up here?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
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Speaker 6 (21:04):
Man, how about that?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Yes, Sir Kirk Signetti getting things done.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You know what's interesting about that, because I've heard several
people say, well, they had two games last year against
Ohio State and Notre Dame, they got hammered in both
of them.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I didn't really believe that.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And because I'm a Buckey, I watched the entire Indiana
Ohio State game and the score was basically fourteen to
seven the whole game. And then we blocked the punt
and we ran a punt back and that's why, and
then it became they had to throw everything and then
so it was basically they didn't care about coming to
Ohio State last year and going toe to toe for
two and a half quarters, and so I didn't know
(21:40):
that they were I didn't think they would win in Oregon,
but I certainly thought it would be a four quarter
game because with Signetti, he's got them in the We're
not scared of anybody mindset outside.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Of those two football games. When he's done the last year,
they've done impressive winning and.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
They flow your doors off if you are not ready.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The interesting thing for hit me who all comes calling
after this season because they're going to be some high
profile jobs open.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Now, let me ask you, Andianna's got some money.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Would you lead? I think every everything is what am
I leaving for? How you get the Lincoln Riley package? Yeah,
if they're backing it up for you and they've got
a contract where you got all this cash and here's
the plane whenever you want it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I mean, if you get that kind of thing, Okay, like.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Those Oklahoma for Yeah, all those schools.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
At that level can do that if they choose to
do that.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
But are they That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Is Florida going to do that for you?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
If that open top?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
I'm flipping in the round. If you're in Indiana and
you've been irrelevant for one hundred and twenty six years
in college football and you now enjoy being relevant to
match with your basketball program and you and then if
you're Signetti, and you go instead of being you know,
the next Woody Hayes, the next Joe Pod, the next
(22:58):
this the next day, I can be that.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I can be the dabble here Soul and Penn State.
Penn State's they fired James Frank that's a job that's opening.
I go back to Nick Saban when he was in
Michigan State and LSU came, and the thought process for
him was, and when they sold him as you got
a whole state, just protect the borders because we're losing
Peyton Manning, we're losing Marshall Fulk. There's a lot of
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talent here and they just go next door to Texas
and go get you a couple of kids. So he
did that at LSU. Clearly, if you're Kirk Signetti, you're
never going to be the best team in your own state.
And that was what Nick said. He's like, I'm never
going to be the team in state because I got
Michigan here and then I got Ohio State next to me,
so right here, I'm always going to be number three
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when it comes to kids. Notre Dame is always going
to be a bigger draw than Indiana. What you're doing
out there is great. You go to Penn State. There's
more money, it's more resources, It's an easier way to win.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Signetti though, And it's interesting because I just heard it
come out of his mouth the other day. He's chaining gaily.
You don't want to ab with a bunch of five stars.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
He liked these.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Threes and three and a half that he can mold
develop who ain't gonna ask him a whole bunch of
why we're doing this? Coach. He liked that, okay, And
so my point is, my point is he might not
mind because he's not competing against Satin catch. I know
the Dame is competing fit anyway. He don't want Ohio
States players. He wants TCU's players. I want to develop them.
(24:25):
I want to get them here. I want them to stay.
I don't want them. You know, hey, where am I
raised at? I don't want them kind of guys. I
want those guys that are happy to be here. They
want to be here, they want to be coach hard
and not and showed them we can compete with the best.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
It's gonna be interesting now, it's gonna be really in
Florida State could be in the market. So he's going
to have some tremendous options and Indiana, sure you going
to Mark Cuban and other people say, right, it's a
check here, but it's gonna be hard. I mean, how okay,
who's the last person that turned down you know these
(25:01):
blue blood like oh really? I mean Matt Campbell maybe
in Iowa State. How's that working out? We're working out
of him right now.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
I think about Shane Latreill a few years ago at
un T turning down Kansas State.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Yeah, Dan, Kansas.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Now he's out of a coaching job.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Latrell, he had both k both both jobs and such
in the Sunflower State, turn them both down.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
Signetti has a very similar decision to make the Joey
maguire right now, because they're both.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
You talk about all those comparison.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
You talk about all those things working against them. You're
never going to be the blue blood in your state.
You're going to be recruiting a much different player than
the Texas or the Texas A and M's or even
THO Oklahoma's. But you got the money, you got the
resources where you're at, and it's a whole different landscape
of college football. You're going to see the Indiana's in
the Texas, Texas and the I think Houston has some
money like that too. They're just putting them into awful
(25:47):
resources right now. But so very similar.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Well, I've talked to Joey about that in the past,
and Joey's talked so much about you know, I'm a
I'm a West Texas Red Raider.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
This is me. This fits me, like.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Folks, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, and he's a Texan. I
don't know, Sicknetti's you know, Hey, I'm an Indiana guy.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Well, who's your guy?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
I think I think the programs are a little bit
different in that aspect.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
And let's just be honest. If they're going to keep spending.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Money like that in this Big twelve, this dude can
win this conference and be he can he can sit
up on top of here for a minute. You can
be the new Oklahoma in the Big twelve. If this
is the commitment they're going to continue to get that, yes, yeah, yeah.
And so if that's the case and you're say you're
Texas guy and you're comfortable, I mean, for me, I
would say, you know, if Joe, somebody wants to come
get Joe, who let's just say, let's say LSU moves
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on from from Brian, which you know, that's that's a
check you're gonna have to write. But you know, our guy,
Danny mccraeb'stead not happy, not happy right now. But if
you move on from Brian Kelly to l at LSU
and your Joey mcgwuidd, now you got that kind of compensation.
That's a very interesting conversation to Heennis, because you're talking
about a whole state of tremendous talent and oh, by
(27:05):
the way, you've been a high school coach in Texas
and you know how to recruit. That's that's a that's
a tough job to turn down. So you know, tell me,
tell me what the options are. But I just think
if you're in Indiana, it's not going to be hard
to make a fantastic case. It's some of these schools
of hey, this is what we can do for you
that that that you won't be able to get in Indiana.
(27:27):
Unless he just says, you know, I'm gonna be that guy.
I'm buckle up here, I'm all good. I want to
make Indiana football matter.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
It would have to be a significant step up if
I'm Kurt Signetti, Penn State isn't a high enough jump
for me to for me, what is soul Florida, Florida
or trying to think one of these.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
School states that's a blue blood job.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
It is. But at the same conference, you have arguably
the same amount of resources in Indiana as they do
at Penn State monetarily wise, I'll disagree with you that
you should see the money they're putting in that program.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Man.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
It's it's why they've been able.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
To recruit the they're putting up in that Pen State.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
And sure, sure, I'm not discounting that Indiana's got more
resources than you think, though.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
I mean have and this is just me, but I
think a Big ten football right now, it's Ohio State, Michigan,
Penn State.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Those are three jobs. Those are three jobs, and.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Those are or as a buddy of mine used to
uh Oregon and in there, you know, they're not getting
that kind of revenue money like the other ones are
because they're getting half that cash coming from from from
the PAC twelve. But buddy of mine used to say
when he was he was a recruiter for TCU basketball,
He's like you called me news news.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I always go in their room, show me, show you
the posters.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
He said. It was never TCU basketball post on anybody's wall.
And then before that he was recruiting at Carolina South.
Carolina's news was never never basketball poster, Gancock basketball anybody's room.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
There's not that in Indiana. It is if you're a
Penn State.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, and some of those different. You know, what, do
you have fifty thousand seat stadium in Indiana, you're just feeling,
you're feeling good. They wiping out one hundred, one hundred
thousd in Penn State. It's a different level.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
It's a little bit different though, when you can go
to let's say this four star receiver, right, let's say
he's in Let's say he's in Chicago. Okay, Penn State Indiana,
they're both recruiting him. They have the same bag on
the table for him. You can go to Penn State,
you can compete with all these other guys that have
the same bag, or you can go to Indiana be like, hey,
you're gonna be wide receiver one day one. I just
think there's more I think there's more opportunity and more
(29:22):
resources at Indiana based on the hand that s Kurt
Signetty has been dealt and with the resources that they
can continue to have. Talk to Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban's
throwing some money in that program too. They have some
big time donors that with this nil era, it has
opened up multiple programs to be able to dump money into.
I mean, Texas Tech is the best example. Indiana is
one of them. Illinois is another one. You know, they've
(29:44):
been consistently top twenty in the NIL era, that's no mistake.
I think if they had the right guy in there,
we could be talking about them instead of Indiana arresting that.
The thing is.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
When you talk about resources and you talk about that
private equity deal that the Big ten's about the sign
those schools about to get paid.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And so let me throw one out here. Yeah, and
they've got money. They've they've demonstrated already with their basketball program.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
We'll go, we'll go pay a high power coach. Arkansas. Yeah,
you're signatty.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Arkansas comes to you with a big old bag Tyson
chicken money, Jerry Jones flying you on the plane on
down there. I mean, beat them about it myself.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I ain't going to Wisconsin. I mean, I ain't going
to Arkansas.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I'm just asking because at the end of the day,
I did not see coach John Caler Perry leaving Kentucky
to go to Arkansas, and I knew things had gotten
to the point where Kentucky. He and Kentucky were like, hey, man,
I don't really like you, no more than you don't
like me. It was gonna cost you a whole lot
to buy me out. Let me go here. But what
did he do with Arkansas? Good job what you got.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I can see they've already thrown the money in for
Calip Perry. That's the difference at Arkansas that that money
is already there. They need to show return on investment
before they can go back to those same people and
be like, hey, let's do over here what you did
over there, even though we haven't won yet.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Do you think really twist Jerry Jones make football good
at Arkansas?
Speaker 6 (31:02):
No, Jerry Jones is let's put him out of the question.
He can. He can dump as much money into the
Arkansas program as he wants.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But we can't.
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Speaker 3 (31:13):
But what do they all care about? The most I
mean they like Arkansas, they.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Like it, but they've had much more success in basketball
than football.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But that doesn't that doesn't mean that's not what they
want to do.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
You know. It's like and you the boosters all they
won't they all want football. They want them. You know,
Ry j ain't sitting up here talking too many times
about Nolan richardson forty ad minutes of hell, but he's
showing up talking about that Arkansas football. We are transition
from Jerry and in Arkansas to Jerry and the Dallas Cowboys.
So he spoke about everything going on there with the
(31:47):
defense and believes in that. But the quarterback right now
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Speaker 1 (34:34):
Long, one in five, he was guy in the moment
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Speaker 3 (34:41):
Is that now the worst run football organization?
Speaker 10 (34:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Uh, let me see. Uh it's rivaling the Jets, but
I think they're worse because they've had like three coaches
and two gms like you five ran karthin to hire
a GM who's first hire lasted seventeen games and he
got fired too, And I mean that's that's really almost
a fireable offense.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Well, one of the fireable offenses. You just gotta go
out to management. You let Mike Frabile get out of
the building. Yeah, that boom. I mean, what are we doing? Yeah?
Because equality NFL coach? Right, what are we doing? You
already see the difference he's making in New England here.
So that's why I said, is this the worst run
organization out there going around right now? I mean, the
Raiders are gonna give a run for the money because
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made a bunch of mistakes here and the Jets are Wow.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And then this is why it matters who drafts you
when you're a quarterback, because they can really just ruin
your career.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
And yes, you have.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Something to do with it, but at another level, you
have very little to do with it.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And what's right?
Speaker 4 (35:44):
What is your philosophy? I mean, I remember when Bill
Parcells was here, how they helped create We're going to
change things. These are the types of players we're drafting.
I mean Bill talked about, you know, we're drafting guys
who've got been productive at big schools, guys who've been captains.
You know, he had he had a certain type of
player that he wanted here, and they did that when
they drafted guys like Kevin Burnett and they drafted Swag
(36:04):
who they end up getting to Marcus where there are
a lot of certain got Jason Whitten. They got guys
who produced, guys who were doing things, and that philosophy
ended up carrying them even well passed when he was
gone with Wade Phillips had taken over.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
What are you?
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Who are you? And I don't know when I look
at the Titans, when I look at the Jets that
they can say who they are, what is it they do? Well?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
What can they hang their hat on?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Right now? Poor Tony Poller, I mean ibably went home
and have we heard his name that brought it up
and thought about I mean put TP Glad he got paid,
but wow, wow.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
And cam Ward poor, I feel more. I feel worse
for cam Ward. He's not the one who got paid
Tony Poler did. Yeah, as far as you know, positional
money goes.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, speaking of quarterbacks and positional money, Dak Prescott highest
paid quarterback in the league right now, I'm playing like it.
In three games, over eight hundred yards of passing, eleven
touchdowns and one interception. Unfore, fortunately for Dak Prescott, they
lost to the Carolina Panthers, and they tied the Green
Bay Packers, and they beat the New York Jets, and
(37:10):
Dak at the podium said they thought they were going
to get the football back after that horrible three and
out when they had the ball with fantastic field positions
there forty six and went three and out and going backwards.
He has to do on near play perfect nick in
order for these guys you can have chance.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Yeah, I was six minutes left. He should expect to
get the ball back. I don't blame him for that,
but man, those that first down play really spoke the
end for that drive. Starting at the forty six you
run the screen loss of seven I think it was,
and then you have to go check down, check down,
because you know the Panthers were playing at the first
down marker at that point. So that drive killed it obviously,
But you expect to get the ball back. You should
(37:49):
get the ball back in that situation. It's the Panthers,
you should not. It's not the best running game in
the NFL, it's the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
I was about a minute into the drive when I
think I tweeted out, Oh, they're not go and get
the ball back because and it's because because they could
run the ball like that, they didn't have to pass,
which means the clock wasn't going to stop, and they
were and there was no indication you could stop them,
so they were going to just keep pounding first downs,
(38:15):
and the one time they had a chance to stop them,
what happened pass interference.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So the Cowboys got the ball back at eight eighteen
in the game, and it was tied at twenty seven
first and ten. That short passage who Javante was minus five,
then second fifteenth from the forty one, they go back
to Javonte's negative seven and then on the third down
you throw it to the hunterd lip key for four
yards and then they punt. And they were the Panthers
(38:40):
when they got the ball back with six or seven
and ran it out. It was a third and seven
at the Carolina seventeen. That's to play the game, and
it was Leget Well, actually I'll disagree. I think here
was your player of the game. So they kept the
ball get first intent the Carolina twenty nine. It was
a fourth and fourth, that fourth and four, and then
they ran that slant hunter Infro picked it up two
seven yards that fourth and fourth with two thirty one
(39:01):
to go.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
If you don't commit to pass interference, you're never there
for the butterfly fick. The drive is over and you punt,
so that play never happens because they punt on third
and seven from now on seventeen.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
And the eveling thing, I I have to go back
and off the top of my head, I thought it
was just kind of one of those I don't, I don't,
I can't say for sure it was but it just
looked at me like, you know, you go either way.
You know, it can go either way in the game.
You can say yes, you can say no. But that
fourth down call they played off, he runs a slant, Bam,
he gets in there.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, your boy's supposed to go over there and do
But if you look at this the play, he doesn't
go right to the spot. He he steps, takes like
two steps back, and then he goes. If he just goes,
he's probably there to knock it down.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
So yeah, that's you know, to me, forty four Okay,
that's boom. You know, show ends and and they they
take it off. But six minutes and seven seconds in
the football game, I just can't think of the last
time I saw something like that.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You talk, what I mean, we saw seventeen plays in
ninety whatever that that twelve thousand minute drive the Bears
had it in the third quarter that effectively ended that game.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Because I'm talking about the end of the game, you know,
like the two talking about two minute offense or three
minute offense to end the game. Six so seven I
can't for me, I can't remember the last time I
saw that. And it was also just watching being there too.
It's like you're just watching them, you just looking old.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
That's until your defense can destroy the game, no matter
how good your offense is. Because like even in the
Bears game, they took that whole third quarter with the drive,
so the game's essentially over now it's thirty one to
fourteen with only one quarter left.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
But you know, you know, but even there and Nick,
we're sitting there, it just after the flee flicker play,
it just never felt like they were in it. It
was just like, man, these these guys are getting handled.
They just getting handled the whole they're holding on. They
getting handled for you know, when a dude gets take
it right, Rake raked out of the ball, just raked
out your hands. And he just never felt like they
(41:04):
were in that game here because the Panthers, you're thinking,
you're thinking they're they're going to win. They're gonna figure out.
It's gonna be sloppy, like like the Giants, you better.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Figure it out.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
They're gonna figured it out.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
The difference was, you know, fourteen runs or seven yards
or more like normally if you get one hundred and
eighty three yards somewhere along the way, you busted one
for forty fifty, sixty seventy somewhere. This was just boom hammered.
And so it's like.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Watching a box or just continually tap somebody in their
eyes and the cowboy the next one in there. Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
It was awful.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
It was awful.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
When Budd beat up Spence, man, that's what it was like.
You can't wait for Spencer to get back in it.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
And it wasn't no but even eat them up. But
even that the cowboy that know, you know what they no,
I won't give him that because the cowboys who had
a shot shot at you get your eyes shot right exactly,
no shot. But it was somebody somebody say this man
from himself. But this guy was the eye was shut.
You were still hitting him. You couldn't see. But you know,
(42:06):
it's like Joe Fraser and throwing them Manilla. You know
he was getting beat he was hitting he and he
just had a couple more than you. But it still
went down to the end. This was this was Rico.
Rico punched him in the eye. Man made him take it.
Then you said they would buckle up. That was that
was that was That was an embarrassing locker room afterwards.
Man everybody just owned up. Yeah he did that.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
That was the saddest part he did that when you looked.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
At Washington and I realized we got the rist of
the week. But how do how do how do you
go by stopping Jaydon Danmes in that offense?
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I mean, if you can't.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Slowing it down, like you don't have to stop it?
Can you just slow it down enough?
Speaker 3 (42:44):
You can't stop Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I mean, you know, Brun, you know the problem with
this with this is the Cowboys are two three and one.
This was the soft part of the schedule.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
This was the make hay.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
This was put the money into the eight so in
case we get laid off, we got six months salary s.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
That's what this part of the season was.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Man and instead of four and two or you know,
maybe five and one if something breaks right for us.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
Well you think about this is what they've got the
next three weeks before the bye, it's still time. It
is home against Washington, You're at Denver and then a
home game against Kyler Murray and the Cardinals.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
In the back in the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (43:25):
Right, but I'm just saying, I'm looking I'm looking right
here before the bye, right, here.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I'm gonna tell you, like I told, can we say
chill on here? Yeah, our old friend chill They're not
good enough to do anything other than is there practice tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Let me show up and prepare for practice tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, it's augling.
Speaker 6 (43:42):
They gotta go three and oh they got to go
into that by five, three and one or what that's
to give them a chance or what they How many
how the Strap show fired up?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
How many wins did you have them this year?
Speaker 6 (43:54):
After the Parsons trade. I think I had him at eight,
eight or nine.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
See, I had him at six, and after the Parsons
trade really went to more like five.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
I think about yeah, part I was like five or six.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
So I mean, right now they're they're really, they're really
all They're on points and six and at this point
in time, the ones I was counting on they're not getting. Yeah,
you know, that's that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
You know.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I thought you're gonna put Caroline in the bank. That
didn't happen. I thought you push Chicago in the bank.
That didn't happen. So that's why, you know, a game
like Washington's very critical. It's gonna be hard to go
to Denver problem. The problem is cal Murray doesn't lose
it at trying to hear that he might not play
it this right.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, but you know they lost to Josh Dobbs, so
it don't really matter. True.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
When your defense is just bad every.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
There's no there's no bankable games because your defense dumps
everybody in the game.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yes, yeah, when you're scoring thirty any other team is
scoring thirty one or yeah, it's a problem.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's a problem. They gotta fix it.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
But Jerry says, there are little things that got to
get fixed, and you ain't still believes in Matt Ebraflus
and the ebra Flus is good and then I.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Checked the pass rushy man, that's what he said. I know,
I know, just a deepest part of the team, I think.
I mean, I'm paraphrasing, I.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Know, I know.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Yeah, I'm just pointing on you all. I'm just pointing
in you all. We're forty five minutes through the show.
You are the self proclaimed old heads and no shut
off for D'Angelo. Man, that's tough.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Hey man, you know what's famous song with him dancing
Nicked on the video?
Speaker 4 (45:18):
That can I can I say, Nick, I'm surprised you
knew that. I'm surprised you knew who he was. But
I've got the D'Angelo station pulled up on my serious
X him app RPD.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
That's I passed Nick my phone, that's my hiking check.
And I pulled out the naked video for and I
said for the ladies.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
The di'angelo station.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
So we know it.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Man.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
As soon as it happened, man went straight to the
to the series X.
Speaker 6 (45:45):
I know I'm a little young for that.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
You Mama raised you, right, Mama raised you right.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
Baby. Look at you, boy, soul brother Nick, you and
you and you are a man down in Miami coach.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
So all right, all right? You know somebody said my
pants looked like looked like his. I was like, now
they're too low, they are not high enough. They not
call me that man. Only one of us is about
to be employed here in about two weeks though, So.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
You know what fired me?
Speaker 6 (46:08):
And I at least I'm in great shape these checks.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
These folks out here again. Can I get fired?
Speaker 4 (46:12):
Can I be James Franklin? Can I tell you something
that's not a bad life? No?
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Because AHPN did that to me, And I was like, oh,
so this was like to be a college by something
months on the company. That's right before I started working
at NBC with Nuie. And this is the funniest thing.
Real quick, we made the announcement on Facebook. Oh, I'm
thrilled to dons of accepted position with NBC and my
boy Knuie and positive Pat dude, I promise you I
(46:37):
had not posted that more than an hour, ringing ring, Oh, congratulations,
mister Taylor.
Speaker 4 (46:42):
When do you start?
Speaker 5 (46:44):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
I believe our contract extend is over August thirty first,
I started September first. You don't pay me all this money,
I'll be like James Franklin. I wasn't looking hard for
a job.
Speaker 6 (46:54):
So there was a clause in James Franklin's contract where
he has to look for a job and if he
is not paid more than eight million dollars or if
he's not paid eight million dollars at least by his
next employer, Penn State has to make up the difference.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Right now, James Franklin is getting six hundred and sixty
thousand dollars a month not to work.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
Jimbo Fisher, that's really the life. I mean, he is
just chilling and bring him on his on his.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Timbo trying to get back though in the worst way.
Speaker 5 (47:19):
Man.
Speaker 8 (47:20):
See probably means you got out of money. But what
you gonna do Your wife is not used to having you.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Around after after you golf so much.
Speaker 4 (47:26):
And you take a couple of vacations.
Speaker 10 (47:28):
It is.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
It is bad.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
But I saw I saw Jimbo at Chapel Hill for
the TCU Carolina game. Yeah, Jimbo had on a purple tie,
went on up.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
To Daniel pulling.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
The president of TCU meant the a d I'm like, well,
you ain't even slick man.
Speaker 6 (47:43):
That's dirty work, dirty dirty, you know. Yeah, and then
he goes up to Sunny. How you doing, Sonny, Good job,
good job.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, I'm like, well look at yeah, it's pretty funny man.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (47:54):
He had baby blue draws on that night.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Well, you know, I don't know about that, man.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
Those the people that because it wasn't eighty, the people
that hired him, they're gonna, they gonna they'll probably standing
there with him. They probably will. Nick Harris appreciate you.
Thank John, Jack Taylor appreciate you. We'll do it again
tomorrow right here on the media match for Chris Beam
and everybody here at Dallas cowboys dot com. We'll talk
to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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