December 9, 2025 • 47 mins
Not exactly a victory Tuesday, but sorta, the Chargers doing the Cowboys a favor by defeating the Eagles, keeping the Cowboys playoff hopes alive with the guys reviewing the Monday night game. Some Shedeur Sanders talk, along with George Pickens, and giving him some advice.
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Yes, it's a victory Tuesday. Inside the SWBC podcast studio. Hecley,
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Heck Maherison, Nicky Spagnola, fusion on the face of hebers. Okay,
that is a victory last night for the Dallas Cowboys,
well needed, much needed victory. And we are alive. We
are staying alive, right give I'm you're excited about this
(01:18):
ever so time, I'm really not.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm really not. No, No, I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was the first I'm gonna say, even keeled here
here was the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
First to text last night after Tony Jefferson came up
with the interception.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I thought there was an emergency going on. Ever since
texting at that time of hour. Oh my god, I
thought it was amazing, that's all he's he's I don't
even even understand why he's acting, like, did you know
you were excited about it as excited as I was
when I saw that they go to overtime. When I
saw it go to overtime, and hey, they deferred, you know,
(01:51):
obviously the Chargers took the ball first. They go down
and I'm like, oh my god, please, you know, score
touchdown at least, you know, get down there and Herbert man,
bless his heart. Man, he's struggling with that broken hand.
But either way, the back and forth of that game
was crazy. But in those final minutes, I don't know
how many so many field goals, but I'm telling you,
in that moment that after Jalen Hurts had struggled, struggle,
(02:13):
he was on a struggle bus last night, he made
that throw to DeVante Smith. It was like a third,
third and sixteen or something crazy like that. I'm like, the.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
First, the first timing route they hit all.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
All day, all day, perfect, perfect, he was ready. He
fit that thing in there, and then you know they
just keep going like, oh my god, damn about yeah,
and man, this guy drops back in his zone and
tips that ball and that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Was hard by cornerback. And then my guy, Tony Jefferson
is thirteenth year and here we are now. Ever since
actually had tweet, had texted earlier, what happens if they tie? Yeah,
And that's what I was going through my mind. Okay,
I didn't figure it out this time? Is I told
you all about? Okay? Yeah, it's four and three three
forward to all that crap yesterday, that loss, and I did.
(03:04):
I do think I've had figured it out now the Eagles.
In order for this all to play out for the Cowboys,
they're likely going to have to lose a game to
Washington and that's going to destroy their division record. Cowboys
would have a better division record. Obviously they've split their
head to head and so I think even with a tie,
to answer your question, the Cowboys would have had the
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tiebreaker over the Eagles. But as it stands now, we're
looking at Cowboys have to win out and the Eagles
split their last four games, and the Cowboys win the
division if that happens. So Commanders, and they got two
against the Commanders, one against the Raiders, and then at
Buffalo you got at Buffalo. We're counting that as an L.
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And then I don't think it's the Raiders this week.
I don't think, well, don't trust. You got to start
trusting something. You put yourself the position you got to trust.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I would have trusted the Commanders himself. They lost thirty
one zero and as all my trust just went out
the window for them.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Right, Yeah, but you got there. There's hope. Hope is alive.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh man. So and.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
What are you saying that everybody?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Everybody is giving Jefferson credit. His ass was beat. If
that if cam Hart doesn't tip.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
The ball's it was a touchdown. The games over us.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
If if was a fifth, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It away from Jefferson, he did all have.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
If that ball wasn't tip, it was a touch that
was a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
He had.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
The guy had four yards on him.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He did he did.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, that was a touchdown. That was a touchdown, no doubt.
He put that thing right.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
He came off Goddard tipped the ball at the five
and it goes right.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I mean, it's just a hell of a play.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Great play on him to come off his because he
is covering Goddard, right.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And I think you said out of the slot.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Do you think he said, Oh my god, the guy's
be behind me.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I met immediately.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I think he did. You know, what did you stay
for that postgame interview?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I did.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
So they interviewed Jefferson, right, and they start talking to him.
He goes, oh, man, I got to catch my breath.
I go, yeah, because you ran one hundred yards to celebrate.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
It wasn't because you made.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But all the way down to the he did.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But what he did do was give credit what credit
is due to his cornerback. As you said, he's a
heck of a play. If he doesn't make that play,
then obviously they don't end the game in that fashion.
So and about great cats, now, I mean, that's the
hell of he scause you're already you're gonna you're trying
to make it up.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And you just yeah, a chance to react.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
No, that was which is, which is what he has
done throughout his career, going back all the way. And
just to continue on that, what did you for?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
This is this is.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was undrafted. Okay, he tweaked his hamstring at the combine.
This is twenty thirteen coming out. Okay, he tweaked his
hamstring at the combine. So he ran like a four
to seven. Okay, and he and Speed's no, yeah, yeah, Okay.
So he goes undrafted, makes the team in Arizona, gets
a second contract with Baltimore. Okay, forty million dollar deal.
(06:25):
Ok So we've proven himself. Then he's battled through a
couple of knee injuries in his career. In the COVID year,
he was out of football. Okay, then he was with
the Giants. He said, this is his eighth jersey number.
I looked on Pro Football Reference, his eighth jersey number
in the league, thirteenth year. He was retired two years
ago and had joined the Ravens scouting department. He was
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scouting players. Comes back last year with Jim Harbaugh and
the Chargers. He had two picks in the Trey Lance
five interception game here last year, made the team, and
now he's got he had four pickses an entire career
coming into this year. He's already got four picks this year.
And uh so it's an amazing story. He's thirty three
(07:08):
years old.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Was going to say he looked thirty eight. Yeah, because
when I saw him do the interview, that guy's old.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, he's he's thirty three is not that old. No,
but he's been around the block and then some and
uh so, anyway, hell of a play. Yeah, and it's
a great old man, great play for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It was. Can we talk about Jayalen Hurts and how
he sucked it up? You guys want to you know,
it's twenty one about for forty QBR twenty seven wow
four interception.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Someone said that had he, oh my god, had he
clocked the ball. If he spiked the ball on every
play in the game, his quarterback rating would have been higher.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Than no way, yes, just have it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
If he just took the snap and threw it into
the ground every time, it's like passer ray joy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'm gonna use that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I've never known him to just be so unhinged in
the game.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
What it should have been five picks?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
R J.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Mickens had a pick, You trapped the ball early in
the game. It should have been five picks.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
In that game, right off the bat, right right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, No, he was. He was bad, and.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well their offensive line was worse and the Chargers line
was worse than that.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
He was getting hit just like Dak was getting hit
every time you looked at me throw a ball.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
He's just like the lack of holding calls in this game,
that's what I think. I'm just like, come on, now,
how do you how do these referees catch us with
every holding? And my lotta is out there completely mugging
guys on each and every play AGA and they are
missing it.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
A Lota got away with one because the center got
called for holding.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
He was holding to both in flags.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think it was the sick one Barkley run that
I'm specifically sour about. He was he was holding it
in calls.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Sugar sugar, huddle, hurry of the line, quick snap.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
And so how about this Barkley twenty for one twenty two.
You take out the fifty two yards, he was nineteen
for seventy.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Right, which is about what he's done all year. Yeah,
about every game he's like that. And by the way,
this Eagles team, which may give some hope to the Raiders,
to the Commanders a couple of games the last five games,
the most number of points they've scored in the game
was against the Cowboys twenty.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
One and basically did it in one quarter.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That's right, And so four other games, two of them
were wins against the Packers and the Lions.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Before this, So what was a sixteen or ten and
seventeen in the games after the cow when they lost
they beat the Packers.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Was it ten to seven?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It was something like that, and then the other game
was it was sixteen to ten a win, and then
since then it's been outside of the Cowboy game under
twenty points.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The Eagles defense kept them in that game. Every game, Yeah,
Jordan Davis, even without Jay leccarter, they I mean, they
played solid up run Na. Kobe dean Man is a
guy that obviously been dealing with injuries just I mean
as a linebacker, I mean, you got you gotta have
guys like that on your team that is violent at
a point of attack, the way that he plays, and
Red Blanket Ship, I don't give that guy a lot
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of credit. But last night, Boy blanking shit was coming
up bringing it now he was, you know, at the
tackle for a loss that was bill. I love the
way that they played. I mean, that's hard for me
to give them a compliment, but you know, nonetheless, it's
a complimenting the loss.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Good good good.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
The Cowboys get to play the chargers and circle number
seventy five.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
The center. He was awful was Bozeman.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Bring kept blinking the wrong guy.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
He was blocking to his left.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And ringing over shown up the middle right a gap blitch.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
They did it so many times. This guy kept turning
to his left. I go, what are you doing when he's.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Coming right at you? And then Hampton's not able to block.
Wasn't able to block the Kobe Dean last night.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
So they missed this on the On the post game,
they interviewed Herbert right, and you know, they were showing
his hand and it's all bandage up the club.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Well he walks off his elbow. There's bandages on his
elbow and they're soaking with blood.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
He's he's still bleeding, right, and nobody they didn't say anything.
It was like they kept talking about his hand.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I go, look at his elbow, poor baby lord.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And he was their leading rusher.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Once last night. No, not at all. They faked touched.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
It wasn't they were pushing him. But it was third
and one.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
There was third and one, and they sugar huddle. They
quickly came to the line and and and they tried
doing They did that a lot against the Cowboys where
they would come to the line quick and quick snap
it and because they got no other alternative. That's their
trick play and offense.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Look at the Eagles had seven sacks, eleven quarterback hits,
seven tackles for losses, five passes defense, and a sixty
eight percent pressure ratings and they got beat.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You gotta give it to Sande. Yeah, like you have
to give it to the charges.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I mean they hung in there.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They hung in there. They're playing at home. They're playing
at home.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Their most valuable player was no Cameron Dicker.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Yeah, well five kicker that kicker from where Bill Texas,
from where I'm not sure what is its Lake Austin.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Look, you got it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
This is a moment.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You got it. That was nice, Yeah, real good from where.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He's not the best kick, like that's no, no, he
even stuthered when he said, oh Texas, that was saving.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That was little shaky right there.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But then you who's the best kicker at a west Lake?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Who knows Justin Tucker? Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
No, he does not pick on you.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Best behavior.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
But I can tell you what high school Tony Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He went.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
He go to West Lake he went to East Lake, California.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Oh my goodness, No, no, no, that.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Was that was that was impressive kicking just like it was.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
He's Aubrey right in Aubrey right. That's what you get that.
It's going to be featured next week when the Chargers
come to town.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's going to be a kicker kicker off. Yeah, can't sick.
I don't know. I don't know kick offer, yeah, I
don't know. I don't have to careful, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I won't try to get.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yes, and I know it was five, but to hit
from fifty four and overtime, yeah, that was pressure on you.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I mean, any one of those kicks are tough. I mean,
especially when you're trying to stay in it. One of
them was to tie and that was that was a
go one. I just knew they were gonna blow it.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
I was just waiting and then he had to rekick
one of them right when the guy it was a
penalty for leverage.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, he was. He was clutched last night and.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Then he came back and kicked it again. So yeah,
that was pretty The.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Kickers started off like Superman early in the season, then
they kind of leveled off a bit during this time
of year. I think they're trying to ramp it back up.
Let Aubrey have something to do with that.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Kind of like kind of like teams in general too,
where you start off strong, like on offense. Yeah, and
then then there's, uh, the defense starts catching up. Yeah okay,
and then it's the dog Days in November and now
it's the dash for cash in December, dash cash.
Speaker 10 (14:57):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't think Justin Herbert should get away with the
criticism the man twelve for twenty six last night, he
wasn't very good and maybe it's the hand that's bothering.
There's one play where you're noticing one of the Eagles
defenders trying to punch the ball out. He was going
for the hand.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, but he is his own player's hand. Yeah, he did,
but he was trying to get him.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was like, that's thirty.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I was glad the.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Referee analyst or whatever said, hey, if you go to
punch the ball out the guy, it's a penalty.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah. How many times you're gonna see that?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
What he said if you're trying to punch it, yeah,
I heard you. And if you missed the ball, okay,
and you punched the guy.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Okay, he's punching the guy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
No, okay, it's football.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Punch.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well why not? But what's an elbower.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
What's the difference of punching in the chest or punching
in the head.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I guess the shoulder pads and helmet.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Still get penalized if you punch a guy in that.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
So if I hear the guy in the shoulder with
my elbow, no, no, I said, punch.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Okay, once again, if I hear the guy with my.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Elbow, your elbow, your fist.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I am going somewhere with this. Let me you can't.
You can hit with an elbow, but not with a fist.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
You can't hit with a fist. That's throwing a punch.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
They're going to call that again, that's a football move.
Punching it out.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'm sorry, that's what I said.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Wow, that could that could be a little little So
you better watch where you Yeah, you better watch.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's never been called before, so I've never seen that.
They'll call it against us. It'll happen.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
It's just off the top of we're dragging the guy
across the goal line.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
But yeah, we get the offensive basket.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I had to ask.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I saw play I can't remember if it was college
or NFL where the guy was on the ground and
the guy punched the ball right, And I'm going, is
that like touching the guy and he's down because if you.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Hit the ball.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I was told it counts he's down if you punch
the ball, even if he's on the ground and had
been and no one had touched him.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I asked a head referee in college that too.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So we have to allow him to get up and
then try to punch it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
No, you can watch it. He's just he's down. It
counts he's down.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, But if I want the ball, I have to
let him get up.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, no, punch it out. Oh yeah, you're right because
he's down.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah. Okay.
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Speaker 4 (19:57):
And the breaking news around the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Right now, it happened.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
A guy who is a Hall of Fame semifinalist right now,
in his first year of eligibility, Philip Rivers is signing
a contract with the Indianapolis Colts joined the Colts practice squad.
My question is, does this now take him off the
Hall of Fame lists? Clock restart now for the Hall
(20:23):
of Fame. He's been out for five years.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
He signed that that line, he's now.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
No longer a Hall of Fame semifinalist. He is out
his clocks. He's not eligible for another five years.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
So that opens it up for someone else. And he
doesn't get in the way of anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Making it if he makes Woodson.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes, yep, there you go. That's true. So that's good
news there.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
They lost both quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Well, Anthony Richardson had been lost and it was a
locker room orbital.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Now Riley Leonard, who came in for uh uh Daniel
Jones the other day, he's he's questionable, right, so he's
got it. He reported to work yesterday with a knee injury.
What's interesting about this, I think? And they do have
Brett Rippon on there.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And we are talking about the Colts.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, what's interesting about it? As far as Philip Rivers
is concerned, he is, he's a grandfather, forty four years old,
he's got ten he's got ten kids. Yeah, he's from
Fair Hope. He's a high school coach in fair Hope, Alabama,
which is Riley Leonard's hometown. And he's been a mentor
(21:35):
to Riley Leonard. So I think there is more to
this than just Philip Rivers being insurance in case of
an injury. He's a coach, they sign him and he's
like a mentor to Ryley Lennard and.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So he was he was with the high school team.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, no, I'm just saying what the signing is all about.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Right exactly. And so as a practice squad I believe
the maximum contract that for a practice squad player is
twenty two thousand dollars a week with four weeks left
in the season. So as if he doesn't get activated
to the regular roster, you're talking twenty two thousand dollars
a week for Philip Rivers to come in. And so
that's eighty eight thousand dollars over the last four weeks
(22:16):
of the season. He can be a mentor to your
starting quarterback, assuming Riley Leonard's healthy, and he's insurance in
case he's needed to come in.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Eighty eight thousand dollars for four weeks of work. Well,
I tell you, and.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
If he gets activated, he's signed me up probably what
half a million. Believe he's probably five hundred thousand something
like that if he gets activated, and.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
They're probably praying that he never reaches it. Never reaches
that that is death con.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
So I think that is the backstory on this. But
what Philip Rivers is giving up right now is time
with his family at ten.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
His wife is probably happy.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, when you've got ten kids and grandkids, there's a
whole lot of Christmas presents. She got a look, idiot
and he and the season's over. So it's like Teddy Bridgewater.
It's like, although he's much older than Teddy Bridgewater, Bridgewater
was coaching Northwestern High School in Miami and last year
and came back to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is the question, where is Bridgewater?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
And he's at Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay, I'm like, why the hell did he get Teddy Bridgewater?
You can tell me that no backup quarterbacks out there,
and you signed a forty four year old guy and
you're telling me he's only being signed for to be
a kid.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Rivers has been in this offense.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Bridgewater is doing commercials. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Bridgewaters? He still playing.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, it's Tampa, but he's doing don't you see oh believe?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jenny very cool, get in here, very cool.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
And by the way, fair Hope. I think that's where.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Leon let's from Fair Hope. Yeah, that's right. So there
you go. We brought it back to the Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I got you straight.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You on the Today's backs. I like it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
But okay, so there's your update from around the league.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
No, no, no, we still got the should do it.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
We haven't talked you do it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
We didn't talk.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
He's the starter for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
He's the starter for the rest of the season, so
he has a month to show him what he can do.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Since it was a matchup between Cleveland and Tennessee, I
wasn't paying a lot of attention to that game. I'm
going to go back and watch him. But apparently Should
do her lit it up. His harshest critics are now
doing a complete switcher through and saying, wow, this guy
can play in the league.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Man, Look, they'll be back. They'll be back. They'll be back.
Don't worry. They're just waiting for the proper, the proper
opportunity to pounce, just like George Pickens critics. But this
Kevin Stefanski, I just I just wish, I just know, I.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Just does it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Does this when you Okay at the end of that game, No, no,
I got it. I got it, I got it. I'm
trying not to cuss, all right. At the end of
that game, the two point conversion. Your quarterback is playing
like that when you come in with a trick play
whatever they were trying to accomplish in that situation. To me,
(25:09):
that is given the game of black Eye. I think
that when you look at the history of the NFL,
quarterbacks live for those moments. Everybody wants their moment. Troy
Aikman has in Ontwna. All the greats have a moment,
and you look at first round draft picks or quarterbacks
in the league that haven't panned out, well, they still
allow them to have that moment. You don't take that
guy off the field and leave it to chance for
(25:30):
some wildcat offense to be ran. I just thought that
was I think his whole attitude towards towards him Shuder
has been malpracticed for the organization. I don't care what
anybody said, you know, I think if you want to
make it personally, then make it. He already has made
it personal. But to double down on that in that
moment and take that away, dude, I don't have any
(25:52):
respect for him.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
You know, he had this built in excuse as well,
because he has run the wildcat several times when they
get down there. But you know, as as someone pointed
out today, uh, he didn't have a quarterback of it
thrown for three hundred plus yards.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Either, and actually had run for a touchdown already, even
had the run past option. Right, But the quote unquote
non athletic quarterback who happens to be the son of
the one of the fastest players in the history that yeah,
but his mother.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, yeah, you got his mom speed, that's true.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
So they hiked it to a running back. They didn't
see it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah number ten right, Yeah, who was who was having
a good game as well, just was having a good game.
And if I'm not mistaken, because I saw a lot
of games, did I see them?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, he didn't pitch it, and so there's like, what
are you doing that? It almost like a double reverse
pass and he was that what he meant to do.
That's I don't know the designer to play. All I
can tell you is it was a busted play from
the beginning, and it was then he actually tries to
throw it.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And it wasn't a play where Shador stayed on the
field and lined up at wide receiver. He was on
the side on the sideline right, so you could understand
a trick play where okay, the ball is eventually you're
gonna get in his hands, where he's.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Gonna like a horrible you can go personally wise, Okay,
you know you've done it before, so you have your
built in excuse. But the carrying out of the play
itself that was the worst I've ever seen. So they
were he meant to fake it and then throw back
(27:37):
to him.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I can't believe that that's because he could have been thinking,
because the timing of a play like that. He threw
it because he was he literally was under pressure. He
doubled back the other way and then threw the ball.
I think the guy that he was going to hand
the ball off too, was responsible for throwing to the
corner of the inst That's the only way that they
play design that's going to happen, because otherwise.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I was like, why is he throwing it?
Speaker 8 (27:58):
I thought there was a running play, and now I
realized that the guy that he faked two was supposed
to be going.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And if you're gonna go wildcat with junkins, then make
it he's running to the bho but b gap or
a gap, you know, something like that. But don't you
know that that's crazy misdirection, misdirection on the on the
what one yard line? And you just I mean, like
I said, malpractice. It was a behole call.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Well do you realize that they practiced it was? They
practiced that play? Okay, over and over because it's on
the call sheet, right.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
And that was the two point play.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That was.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Who the quarterback was.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But that's where you have their point is you got
to you gotta make an adjustment.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
You don't just invent something.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
No I'm not saying that they invented, but there's got
to be some checks and balances. Even in that situation
that somebody calls down and say, hey man, that's not
what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Are sing how our quarterbacks play time out?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
We're gonna call a time out here.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Let's say listen, meeting of the minds. Get the owner
on the phone. We're about to call a all cat
reverse throw.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Come on now, wild cat reverse. Do you know how
fake reverse? Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Come on man? All right? You know that was And
see it's almost as if you try I try not
to get into all this conspiracy crap. But it's almost
as if he tries to diminish this guy's output doing
any almost any game that he's in. He's very uh,
he's very very short on the the praise of should
(29:33):
do as well.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
You got a rookie quarterback here who's playing better than
any rookie quarterback has ever played in Cleveland period, and
for you not to give him a little bit more love,
I know you feeling the pressure because he's feeling it
from a lot of people who some of.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Them don't even know what the hell they're talking about,
but some of them do.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
And he's not doing himself any favors by losing games
in the fashion that he's doing it, especially when you
have this gym sitting over here, right up to you,
right who's ready to get in the ball game and
make some things happen. And when he does make it happen,
and then now you minimize whether you.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Think the owner called down and said he's the starting
quarterback for the rest.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Of the starter.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Now the next day, So I wish makes you wonder.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Bad organizations do what bad organizations do, and the Browns
are one of them, And so it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
They drafted him.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well, yeah, they did, but then that's a whole conspiracy
on how the hell they drafted him or how he
got there. No, I mean, I don't think there's been
any other player that's been drafted that had five six
other people say we didn't want him in the owner
state up and say, oh, well I did, oh I
didn't want him, And then this's gout that the assistant
general manager say I'm the one that wanted I mean,
come on, man, at the end of the day, the
deal is for people like yourself, Everson, that know the game,
(30:48):
that understand how offensive coordinators work. You know, this guy's
tried to dumb down the offense when he's pasted during
the game. And now, come on, man, anyway, y'all want
talk about the Cowboy?
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, because how many teams passed up on the Dak.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Prescott land it right in your lap? You know, A blessing.
I just yeah, yeah, a blessing.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Sometimes thirty two teams make them.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's what some mishaps. Mishaps can happen, and sometimes they
can project you upward. We need to we need to
send a fruit basket to the Pittsburgh Steelers for George Pickens,
by the way, for mix shots, mix.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
Shots, who was the guy who was the guy that
Dion dumped the gatorader on that time? The commentator who
played reporter news, but he also was a former player.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
He was a catcher and when baseball Okay, I'm sorry, yes,
I'm talking baseball.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
M Tim McCarver.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Yeah, he's not related to so should we throw related
to Savanski?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Stop it?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Man? Yeah, I thought you just said you didn't go
with conspiracy Theoris get out, all right, you got to
teas ready, you gotta get us the break on its
him the conference grandson, where you come up with that one?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You need?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
You need Pickens to throw eight Richard Sherman.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh, what is he talking about the way he dog
got picks?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
You want to talk about that when we come back.
When we come back, let me talk about Pickens.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'm check some stuff out.
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Got Okay, we're getting to Rich Sherman versus George Pickens
out there in a roundabout way, going through Dean Sanders
and Tim McCarver.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That's man, that was good. What an angle?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
So what's what's the take you want to And that
was after the game on Thursday night on the Prime
Postgame Show, where Sherman had some pointed comments towards pickens
effort in the game on Thursday night. There have been
others who have said similar things, even Kirk kurb Street
during the game was pointing out some things. So what's
(35:38):
the take here.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
I think Richard Sherman what he said give everybody else
the license to pile on. And he's been known to
say stuff off the cuff that he didn't know what
he's talking.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
So you think no, So wait a minute, So you
think that because Richard Sherman said what he said, then
everybody else started shopping in their knives and say, let's
come out through him. Because Richard Sherman said it, now
it gives us the green light. I mean, Micky, you met.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Hey, it's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That may actually have been what happened. But I think
that the whole time those critics were waiting in the
wings to say something about him, this whole Pittsburgh Pickings thing.
And the kid, Look, no matter what people say about
George Pickens, he's having a hell of a year. And
I hope the kid has thick skin and comes back
and balls out again to shut everybody up. Pittsburgh lost
one and and if you look at their production that
(36:29):
they've had this season versus what George Pickens is doing
for the Cowboys, it is crumbs to bricks. So Yeah,
keep criticizing, but keep balling three.
Speaker 8 (36:39):
I mean they've they've been They've been waiting on this.
Everyone's been waiting on this all year long. We almost
got it in the Chicago game when he I think
it was Chicago when he dropped him talked about it,
and he slammed his helmet down, which had nothing to.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Do with anything.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
He was mad at you were mad at himself. And
it went nowhere. It went nowhere, And a lot of
that has to do with the fact that he's surrounded
by good teammates.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
So this event enables everybody to either talk or write
about it, to bring up that he was late for
a meeting, he missed the bus.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Now, all of a sudden, we're chronicling all of these
things that happened, and if you add it all up,
then you're talking about what.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
See, that's why.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
He because I remember when he got here.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
The criticism was because Tomlin said he needed to grow
up or mature, right, and everybody pointed out how many
personal files he got with the Steelers. Yeah, well the
personal files were excessive celebration. So he did something good
to produce something bad, right, and he did it here right.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
He went and jumped on.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
The gold posts or whatever you call it, and everybody
gonna okay, now let's lump that in, right, right, right, Yeah,
it's just trying to pick on the guy. And I
guarantee to you when he does his interview on Thursday
out here, that's going to be the second question, right,
And my advice to him as his advisor is to say,
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next question, Yes, don't try to argue.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
With the masses, because you can't win.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Mickey. How many wide receivers have you seen that have
played with bad quarterbacks, get upset and you know, demand
either demand the ball better. Yeah, absolutely, anyone that's that's
worth this.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
He's and he and and that's the not only was
he in that situation in Pittsburgh, he didn't have a
fellow receiver that was worth squat playing with him. What
do you think defense and no quarterbacks? So what do
you think the defenses were doing? You're not beating me, right,
and so yeah, I just think he You know, I
(38:49):
didn't see what he posted whatever and any deleted.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I didn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, I don't look well, I saw it. I mean
it was it was basically he called Richard Sherman a
bunch of names. I can't say you called him Corning
Goofy all of those days as a young man, and
he is and he has his platform, which is his phone,
that he could sit there and he can type out
what he wants. And again that's why I talk about
a kid having thick skin, because when it comes from
(39:16):
like when it comes from media guys, then you're not
gonna say anything, right.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Because that's what they are paid to do. That's what
they do.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
And Richard Sherman is now part of the media, but
I think everybody looks at him as Richard Sherman from
the Legion of Doom, the guy who's you know, guys
should be going to the Hall of Fame, all of
those great things that he's done, and it hits home
when you hear it from that. But Richard Sherman can't
stand on the platform and act as though he's been
perfect as a cornerback. I mean, you got tape out
there Richard Sherman getting burned, you know. So I mean
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it's not like guys don't have bad games. And I
think that's unfortunate and unfair about where we are media wise.
When an ex player can attack a guy that's currently
doing it, and it's not as though he is having
a piss poor year. He is playing his tail off
and trying to put a lot of that stuff behind them,
but they won't let him forget it.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
You can't.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
You can't have aberrations when you're pickings, and you cannot
have those because they're gonna look at that as your pattern.
They're not gonna look at it as a one off thing.
So he's gonna have to deal with that for the
rest of this year, probably for the rest of his career,
because they're gonna always bring up something that happened in
the past, and especially a parting of the ways from
a coach like Thomlins.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's something that they're take they're taking.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
A look at what was the wide receiver the Cowboys
head he was from Pittsburgh or they sent him to Pittsburgh.
They got it through the towel at Parson Bryant, Antonio
Atonio Bryant. Yeah, once he did that, that's it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
That's your reputation, right and you you'll you'll never.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Please don't compare him to that game.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Example, once you do something like that, it stay. And
if you do something else then it's like, well he's
done this, this, and this is.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
One thing that I saw with Pickens. It was never confrontational.
It was always isolation, right, And that's to me, that's
a credit to him, right, because if you want to,
you can instead of going to sitting in the weight room,
because I always remember that they said he just sat
in the weight room, didn't want to talk to reporters.
Instead of just sitting in the weight room not blowing
up at anybody, he could have come out and say
(41:19):
start going off on reporters. He could have done that,
but I don't think I've ever heard him really shout
anything in anger at anyone.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Well, it's like Terrell Owens, you know when he would
do his interviews in that locker room and he was
getting baited all the time.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Right, And I'm sitting there going, you know that commercial
on TV. It was a I think it was a.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Phone commercial or something Tony Dungey and he had a
helmet on and he was talking to the guy that
was in the car with his date and he was
telling them what to say.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Right.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
And when I'm watching, when I'm watching him trying to
take on fifteen media people, I'm sitting there going, if
I just had that helmet on, I'm telling them what
to say, right, I could tell them what to say.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Get out of this.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, and don't be confrontational, because you can't win when
fifteen people are.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Has Pickings been interviewed in regards to this at all.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
I didn't see after the game.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
He did talk after the game.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I didn't comment.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I heard from one of our producers at CBS. He
said he told me I didn't go back and listen
to it, but he said, you need to go listen
to it because he handled himself.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Well, all right, yeah, excellent, and now he's going to
have to do it again.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
And I'm saying, next question, don't even address it.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
What's crazy, though, is that inn example of Terrell Owens
being easy to be baited. Right, you don't question you,
you're questioning his effort, his professionalism as a football player.
And you're saying, man, you ran that slant half asked
whatever because there was a linebacker weight and you didn't
want to get smacked in the mouth. But you don't
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know if the coverage, the play or whatever. I've dictated
him running the route that way meant that he would
run it that way. And so when he turns to
a media guy and say, you don't know what the
hell you're talking about, then that throws the whole thing
off because oh, now he has an attitude, or now
he didn't answer these questions directly, just make a and
sometimes you just make a mistake and sometimes you misread
(43:20):
the defense. Yeah, sometimes you don't know he's coming at
you until like, oops, there's a ball And it's.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
No offense to X players that are announcers. But because
they've got X on there, that means they know everything,
and it's not always the truth. I had a person
that was in charge of radio broadcasts and we were
talking about being a color analyst on the radio, and
(43:46):
I was told that I would never hire a reporter
that hadn't played football to do the job. And it's like,
so because they played, they know and I wasn't using myself, right,
but they know more than me that has watched football
for fifty years, right because they played.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
And uh, we.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Got into a pretty good discussion about But that's what's
the attitude out there. Your ex you know what you're
talking about. Sometimes you don't.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
Sometimes that stuff is personal, Yeah, sometimes personal, there's.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Stuff going on that with the podcast and everything. A
lot of personal stuff going on there. Yeah, everybody's trying
to rewrite history.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Especially guys.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Why I got That's why I got Bill here. When
I try to he stops me.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Well, we've got just a couple of minutes left. So
if we hit anything on the run.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Now, no, oh, run down this.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
We got a lot of time this. We got three
shows left this week. We're going to dive into.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
The minnisoda like Vikings.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, there are some things to look forward to the
rest of the way. Yeah, justin Jefferson problem. Yeah, best
wide receiver in the NFL. How do you defend him?
Can you survive him? Versus stop him? Who must step up?
Bland revel secondary scheme.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I mean, all these great points, man, all these great
things to talk about.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Cowboys defensive keys must stop the run to control the
game flow. Forced JJ McCarthy into mistakes. How about that?
JJ McCarthy comes back the week before they played the
Cowboys and all of a sudden they win and gave
thirty one to nothing.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
And they have the twenty eighth ranked offense and twenty
sixth ranked scoring team.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Well, that season just started last week, so and.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
They got guys back on defens This Van Ginkle is
a handful, right, So he's a playmaker and he made
a play last week against Washington Peat Washington.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Oh Van Ginkle, he's from Miami for the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Dolphins. Yeah, so Frian Floris had him there and now
he's got him and by tomorrow I'll find out what
high school he went to.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I'm sure you don't have you have it down. I
wanted to talk about the offense before we even got
around the Brian flores Is defense, because that's the problem.
That's that is what the legit problem in this game
is going to be his defensive scheme and coming out
to dak what kind of pressure he's going to present present.
But we know dak Is is the man when you
blitz them.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
You know what it is. Schottenheimer will tell you it's
unscouted looks, right, That's right, that's for Brian Flores specializes
in unscouted looks. It means that there's not stuff on
there's different stuff than what is on tape.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
At this point in the season, I think you sound good.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Using right now.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh good, it's just coach talk.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Unscouted looks, all right? I think we're out of time.
I think we've done some damage here. Hopefully on will
listen to this.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Sorry, because we'll send it to them.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
We'll send it to it.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
All right, very good, you got them unscouted, Big Nate
fan Frisco.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
He can send it to it, that's.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Right, Yeah, unscouted.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Looks you should have used them because you're five and eight.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Said, it's been about time to use it now, All
good going, all right?
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Does it for? Mick?
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Shots will shut at you again tomorrow at.
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Heck Maherison, Nicky Spagnola, fusion on the face of hebers. Okay,
that is a victory last night for the Dallas Cowboys,
well needed, much needed victory. And we are alive. We
are staying alive, right give I'm you're excited about this
(01:18):
ever so time, I'm really not.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm really not. No, No, I'm gonna stay.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It was the first I'm gonna say, even keeled here
here was the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
First to text last night after Tony Jefferson came up
with the interception.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I thought there was an emergency going on. Ever since
texting at that time of hour. Oh my god, I
thought it was amazing, that's all he's he's I don't
even even understand why he's acting, like, did you know
you were excited about it as excited as I was
when I saw that they go to overtime. When I
saw it go to overtime, and hey, they deferred, you know,
(01:51):
obviously the Chargers took the ball first. They go down
and I'm like, oh my god, please, you know, score
touchdown at least, you know, get down there and Herbert man,
bless his heart. Man, he's struggling with that broken hand.
But either way, the back and forth of that game
was crazy. But in those final minutes, I don't know
how many so many field goals, but I'm telling you,
in that moment that after Jalen Hurts had struggled, struggle,
(02:13):
he was on a struggle bus last night, he made
that throw to DeVante Smith. It was like a third,
third and sixteen or something crazy like that. I'm like, the.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
First, the first timing route they hit all.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
All day, all day, perfect, perfect, he was ready. He
fit that thing in there, and then you know they
just keep going like, oh my god, damn about yeah,
and man, this guy drops back in his zone and
tips that ball and that.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Was hard by cornerback. And then my guy, Tony Jefferson
is thirteenth year and here we are now. Ever since
actually had tweet, had texted earlier, what happens if they tie? Yeah,
And that's what I was going through my mind. Okay,
I didn't figure it out this time? Is I told
you all about? Okay? Yeah, it's four and three three
forward to all that crap yesterday, that loss, and I did.
(03:04):
I do think I've had figured it out now the Eagles.
In order for this all to play out for the Cowboys,
they're likely going to have to lose a game to
Washington and that's going to destroy their division record. Cowboys
would have a better division record. Obviously they've split their
head to head and so I think even with a tie,
to answer your question, the Cowboys would have had the
(03:25):
tiebreaker over the Eagles. But as it stands now, we're
looking at Cowboys have to win out and the Eagles
split their last four games, and the Cowboys win the
division if that happens. So Commanders, and they got two
against the Commanders, one against the Raiders, and then at
Buffalo you got at Buffalo. We're counting that as an L.
(03:50):
And then I don't think it's the Raiders this week.
I don't think, well, don't trust. You got to start
trusting something. You put yourself the position you got to trust.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I would have trusted the Commanders himself. They lost thirty
one zero and as all my trust just went out
the window for them.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Right, Yeah, but you got there. There's hope. Hope is alive.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh man. So and.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
What are you saying that everybody?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Everybody is giving Jefferson credit. His ass was beat. If
that if cam Hart doesn't tip.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
The ball's it was a touchdown. The games over us.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
If if was a fifth, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
It away from Jefferson, he did all have.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
If that ball wasn't tip, it was a touch that
was a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
He had.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
The guy had four yards on him.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
He did he did.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, that was a touchdown. That was a touchdown, no doubt.
He put that thing right.
Speaker 6 (04:51):
He came off Goddard tipped the ball at the five
and it goes right.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I mean, it's just a hell of a play.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Great play on him to come off his because he
is covering Goddard, right.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And I think you said out of the slot.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Do you think he said, Oh my god, the guy's
be behind me.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I met immediately.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
I think he did. You know, what did you stay
for that postgame interview?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I did.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
So they interviewed Jefferson, right, and they start talking to him.
He goes, oh, man, I got to catch my breath.
I go, yeah, because you ran one hundred yards to celebrate.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
It wasn't because you made.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
But all the way down to the he did.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But what he did do was give credit what credit
is due to his cornerback. As you said, he's a
heck of a play. If he doesn't make that play,
then obviously they don't end the game in that fashion.
So and about great cats, now, I mean, that's the
hell of he scause you're already you're gonna you're trying
to make it up.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And you just yeah, a chance to react.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
No, that was which is, which is what he has
done throughout his career, going back all the way. And
just to continue on that, what did you for?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
This is this is.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was undrafted. Okay, he tweaked his hamstring at the combine.
This is twenty thirteen coming out. Okay, he tweaked his
hamstring at the combine. So he ran like a four
to seven. Okay, and he and Speed's no, yeah, yeah, Okay.
So he goes undrafted, makes the team in Arizona, gets
a second contract with Baltimore. Okay, forty million dollar deal.
(06:25):
Ok So we've proven himself. Then he's battled through a
couple of knee injuries in his career. In the COVID year,
he was out of football. Okay, then he was with
the Giants. He said, this is his eighth jersey number.
I looked on Pro Football Reference, his eighth jersey number
in the league, thirteenth year. He was retired two years
ago and had joined the Ravens scouting department. He was
(06:47):
scouting players. Comes back last year with Jim Harbaugh and
the Chargers. He had two picks in the Trey Lance
five interception game here last year, made the team, and
now he's got he had four pickses an entire career
coming into this year. He's already got four picks this year.
And uh so it's an amazing story. He's thirty three
(07:08):
years old.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Was going to say he looked thirty eight. Yeah, because
when I saw him do the interview, that guy's old.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, he's he's thirty three is not that old. No,
but he's been around the block and then some and
uh so, anyway, hell of a play. Yeah, and it's
a great old man, great play for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It was. Can we talk about Jayalen Hurts and how
he sucked it up? You guys want to you know,
it's twenty one about for forty QBR twenty seven wow
four interception.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Someone said that had he, oh my god, had he
clocked the ball. If he spiked the ball on every
play in the game, his quarterback rating would have been higher.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Than no way, yes, just have it.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
If he just took the snap and threw it into
the ground every time, it's like passer ray joy.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I'm gonna use that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I've never known him to just be so unhinged in
the game.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
What it should have been five picks?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
R J.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Mickens had a pick, You trapped the ball early in
the game. It should have been five picks.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
In that game, right off the bat, right right.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, No, he was. He was bad, and.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Well their offensive line was worse and the Chargers line
was worse than that.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
He was getting hit just like Dak was getting hit
every time you looked at me throw a ball.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
He's just like the lack of holding calls in this game,
that's what I think. I'm just like, come on, now,
how do you how do these referees catch us with
every holding? And my lotta is out there completely mugging
guys on each and every play AGA and they are
missing it.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
A Lota got away with one because the center got
called for holding.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
He was holding to both in flags.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think it was the sick one Barkley run that
I'm specifically sour about. He was he was holding it
in calls.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Sugar sugar, huddle, hurry of the line, quick snap.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
And so how about this Barkley twenty for one twenty two.
You take out the fifty two yards, he was nineteen
for seventy.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Right, which is about what he's done all year. Yeah,
about every game he's like that. And by the way,
this Eagles team, which may give some hope to the Raiders,
to the Commanders a couple of games the last five games,
the most number of points they've scored in the game
was against the Cowboys twenty.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
One and basically did it in one quarter.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That's right, And so four other games, two of them
were wins against the Packers and the Lions.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Before this, So what was a sixteen or ten and
seventeen in the games after the cow when they lost
they beat the Packers.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Was it ten to seven?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
It was something like that, and then the other game
was it was sixteen to ten a win, and then
since then it's been outside of the Cowboy game under
twenty points.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
The Eagles defense kept them in that game. Every game, Yeah,
Jordan Davis, even without Jay leccarter, they I mean, they
played solid up run Na. Kobe dean Man is a
guy that obviously been dealing with injuries just I mean
as a linebacker, I mean, you got you gotta have
guys like that on your team that is violent at
a point of attack, the way that he plays, and
Red Blanket Ship, I don't give that guy a lot
(10:14):
of credit. But last night, Boy blanking shit was coming
up bringing it now he was, you know, at the
tackle for a loss that was bill. I love the
way that they played. I mean, that's hard for me
to give them a compliment, but you know, nonetheless, it's
a complimenting the loss.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Good good good.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
The Cowboys get to play the chargers and circle number
seventy five.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
The center. He was awful was Bozeman.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Bring kept blinking the wrong guy.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
He was blocking to his left.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
And ringing over shown up the middle right a gap blitch.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
They did it so many times. This guy kept turning
to his left. I go, what are you doing when he's.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Coming right at you? And then Hampton's not able to block.
Wasn't able to block the Kobe Dean last night.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
So they missed this on the On the post game,
they interviewed Herbert right, and you know, they were showing
his hand and it's all bandage up the club.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Well he walks off his elbow. There's bandages on his
elbow and they're soaking with blood.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
He's he's still bleeding, right, and nobody they didn't say anything.
It was like they kept talking about his hand.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I go, look at his elbow, poor baby lord.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And he was their leading rusher.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Once last night. No, not at all. They faked touched.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
It wasn't they were pushing him. But it was third
and one.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
There was third and one, and they sugar huddle. They
quickly came to the line and and and they tried
doing They did that a lot against the Cowboys where
they would come to the line quick and quick snap
it and because they got no other alternative. That's their
trick play and offense.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Look at the Eagles had seven sacks, eleven quarterback hits,
seven tackles for losses, five passes defense, and a sixty
eight percent pressure ratings and they got beat.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You gotta give it to Sande. Yeah, like you have
to give it to the charges.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I mean they hung in there.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They hung in there. They're playing at home. They're playing
at home.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Their most valuable player was no Cameron Dicker.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Yeah, well five kicker that kicker from where Bill Texas,
from where I'm not sure what is its Lake Austin.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Look, you got it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
This is a moment.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You got it. That was nice, Yeah, real good from where.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
He's not the best kick, like that's no, no, he
even stuthered when he said, oh Texas, that was saving.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
That was little shaky right there.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
But then you who's the best kicker at a west Lake?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Who knows Justin Tucker? Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
No, he does not pick on you.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Best behavior.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
But I can tell you what high school Tony Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
He went.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
He go to West Lake he went to East Lake, California.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Oh my goodness, No, no, no, that.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Was that was that was impressive kicking just like it was.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
He's Aubrey right in Aubrey right. That's what you get that.
It's going to be featured next week when the Chargers
come to town.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's going to be a kicker kicker off. Yeah, can't sick.
I don't know. I don't know kick offer, yeah, I
don't know. I don't have to careful, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I won't try to get.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Yes, and I know it was five, but to hit
from fifty four and overtime, yeah, that was pressure on you.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I mean, any one of those kicks are tough. I mean,
especially when you're trying to stay in it. One of
them was to tie and that was that was a
go one. I just knew they were gonna blow it.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
I was just waiting and then he had to rekick
one of them right when the guy it was a
penalty for leverage.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, he was. He was clutched last night and.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Then he came back and kicked it again. So yeah,
that was pretty The.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Kickers started off like Superman early in the season, then
they kind of leveled off a bit during this time
of year. I think they're trying to ramp it back up.
Let Aubrey have something to do with that.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Kind of like kind of like teams in general too,
where you start off strong, like on offense. Yeah, and
then then there's, uh, the defense starts catching up. Yeah okay,
and then it's the dog Days in November and now
it's the dash for cash in December, dash cash.
Speaker 10 (14:57):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I don't think Justin Herbert should get away with the
criticism the man twelve for twenty six last night, he
wasn't very good and maybe it's the hand that's bothering.
There's one play where you're noticing one of the Eagles
defenders trying to punch the ball out. He was going
for the hand.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, but he is his own player's hand. Yeah, he did,
but he was trying to get him.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was like, that's thirty.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I was glad the.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Referee analyst or whatever said, hey, if you go to
punch the ball out the guy, it's a penalty.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah. How many times you're gonna see that?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
What he said if you're trying to punch it, yeah,
I heard you. And if you missed the ball, okay,
and you punched the guy.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Okay, he's punching the guy.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
No, okay, it's football.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Punch.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Well why not? But what's an elbower.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
What's the difference of punching in the chest or punching
in the head.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I guess the shoulder pads and helmet.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, I mean, you.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
Still get penalized if you punch a guy in that.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
So if I hear the guy in the shoulder with
my elbow, no, no, I said, punch.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Okay, once again, if I hear the guy with my.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Elbow, your elbow, your fist.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I am going somewhere with this. Let me you can't.
You can hit with an elbow, but not with a fist.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
You can't hit with a fist. That's throwing a punch.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
They're going to call that again, that's a football move.
Punching it out.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I'm sorry, that's what I said.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Wow, that could that could be a little little So
you better watch where you Yeah, you better watch.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's never been called before, so I've never seen that.
They'll call it against us. It'll happen.
Speaker 8 (16:30):
It's just off the top of we're dragging the guy
across the goal line.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
But yeah, we get the offensive basket.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
You know.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
I had to ask.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
I saw play I can't remember if it was college
or NFL where the guy was on the ground and
the guy punched the ball right, And I'm going, is
that like touching the guy and he's down because if you.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Hit the ball.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
I was told it counts he's down if you punch
the ball, even if he's on the ground and had
been and no one had touched him.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
And I asked a head referee in college that too.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
So we have to allow him to get up and
then try to punch it.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
No, you can watch it. He's just he's down. It
counts he's down.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, But if I want the ball, I have to
let him get up.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
Well, no, punch it out. Oh yeah, you're right because
he's down.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
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And the breaking news around the NFL.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Right now, it happened.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
A guy who is a Hall of Fame semifinalist right now,
in his first year of eligibility, Philip Rivers is signing
a contract with the Indianapolis Colts joined the Colts practice squad.
My question is, does this now take him off the
Hall of Fame lists? Clock restart now for the Hall
(20:23):
of Fame. He's been out for five years.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
He signed that that line, he's now.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
No longer a Hall of Fame semifinalist. He is out
his clocks. He's not eligible for another five years.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
So that opens it up for someone else. And he
doesn't get in the way of anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Making it if he makes Woodson.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes, yep, there you go. That's true. So that's good
news there.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
They lost both quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Well, Anthony Richardson had been lost and it was a
locker room orbital.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Now Riley Leonard, who came in for uh uh Daniel
Jones the other day, he's he's questionable, right, so he's
got it. He reported to work yesterday with a knee injury.
What's interesting about this, I think? And they do have
Brett Rippon on there.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
And we are talking about the Colts.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, what's interesting about it? As far as Philip Rivers
is concerned, he is, he's a grandfather, forty four years old,
he's got ten he's got ten kids. Yeah, he's from
Fair Hope. He's a high school coach in fair Hope, Alabama,
which is Riley Leonard's hometown. And he's been a mentor
(21:35):
to Riley Leonard. So I think there is more to
this than just Philip Rivers being insurance in case of
an injury. He's a coach, they sign him and he's
like a mentor to Ryley Lennard and.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So he was he was with the high school team.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, no, I'm just saying what the signing is all about.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Right exactly. And so as a practice squad I believe
the maximum contract that for a practice squad player is
twenty two thousand dollars a week with four weeks left
in the season. So as if he doesn't get activated
to the regular roster, you're talking twenty two thousand dollars
a week for Philip Rivers to come in. And so
that's eighty eight thousand dollars over the last four weeks
(22:16):
of the season. He can be a mentor to your
starting quarterback, assuming Riley Leonard's healthy, and he's insurance in
case he's needed to come in.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Eighty eight thousand dollars for four weeks of work. Well,
I tell you, and.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
If he gets activated, he's signed me up probably what
half a million. Believe he's probably five hundred thousand something
like that if he gets activated, and.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
They're probably praying that he never reaches it. Never reaches
that that is death con.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
So I think that is the backstory on this. But
what Philip Rivers is giving up right now is time
with his family at ten.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
His wife is probably happy.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, when you've got ten kids and grandkids, there's a
whole lot of Christmas presents. She got a look, idiot
and he and the season's over. So it's like Teddy Bridgewater.
It's like, although he's much older than Teddy Bridgewater, Bridgewater
was coaching Northwestern High School in Miami and last year
and came back to Detroit.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is the question, where is Bridgewater?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
And he's at Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay, I'm like, why the hell did he get Teddy Bridgewater?
You can tell me that no backup quarterbacks out there,
and you signed a forty four year old guy and
you're telling me he's only being signed for to be
a kid.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Rivers has been in this offense.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
Bridgewater is doing commercials. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Bridgewaters? He still playing.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, it's Tampa, but he's doing don't you see oh believe?
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jenny very cool, get in here, very cool.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
And by the way, fair Hope. I think that's where.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Leon let's from Fair Hope. Yeah, that's right. So there
you go. We brought it back to the Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I got you straight.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You on the Today's backs. I like it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
But okay, so there's your update from around the league.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
No, no, no, we still got the should do it.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
We haven't talked you do it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
We didn't talk.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
He's the starter for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
He's the starter for the rest of the season, so
he has a month to show him what he can do.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Since it was a matchup between Cleveland and Tennessee, I
wasn't paying a lot of attention to that game. I'm
going to go back and watch him. But apparently Should
do her lit it up. His harshest critics are now
doing a complete switcher through and saying, wow, this guy
can play in the league.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Man, Look, they'll be back. They'll be back. They'll be back.
Don't worry. They're just waiting for the proper, the proper
opportunity to pounce, just like George Pickens critics. But this
Kevin Stefanski, I just I just wish, I just know, I.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Just does it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Does this when you Okay at the end of that game, No, no,
I got it. I got it, I got it. I'm
trying not to cuss, all right. At the end of
that game, the two point conversion. Your quarterback is playing
like that when you come in with a trick play
whatever they were trying to accomplish in that situation. To me,
(25:09):
that is given the game of black Eye. I think
that when you look at the history of the NFL,
quarterbacks live for those moments. Everybody wants their moment. Troy
Aikman has in Ontwna. All the greats have a moment,
and you look at first round draft picks or quarterbacks
in the league that haven't panned out, well, they still
allow them to have that moment. You don't take that
guy off the field and leave it to chance for
(25:30):
some wildcat offense to be ran. I just thought that
was I think his whole attitude towards towards him Shuder
has been malpracticed for the organization. I don't care what
anybody said, you know, I think if you want to
make it personally, then make it. He already has made
it personal. But to double down on that in that
moment and take that away, dude, I don't have any
(25:52):
respect for him.
Speaker 8 (25:53):
You know, he had this built in excuse as well,
because he has run the wildcat several times when they
get down there. But you know, as as someone pointed
out today, uh, he didn't have a quarterback of it
thrown for three hundred plus yards.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Either, and actually had run for a touchdown already, even
had the run past option. Right, But the quote unquote
non athletic quarterback who happens to be the son of
the one of the fastest players in the history that yeah,
but his mother.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, yeah, you got his mom speed, that's true.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
So they hiked it to a running back. They didn't
see it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah number ten right, Yeah, who was who was having
a good game as well, just was having a good game.
And if I'm not mistaken, because I saw a lot
of games, did I see them?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Miss?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, he didn't pitch it, and so there's like, what
are you doing that? It almost like a double reverse
pass and he was that what he meant to do.
That's I don't know the designer to play. All I
can tell you is it was a busted play from
the beginning, and it was then he actually tries to
throw it.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And it wasn't a play where Shador stayed on the
field and lined up at wide receiver. He was on
the side on the sideline right, so you could understand
a trick play where okay, the ball is eventually you're
gonna get in his hands, where he's.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Gonna like a horrible you can go personally wise, Okay,
you know you've done it before, so you have your
built in excuse. But the carrying out of the play
itself that was the worst I've ever seen. So they
were he meant to fake it and then throw back
(27:37):
to him.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I can't believe that that's because he could have been thinking,
because the timing of a play like that. He threw
it because he was he literally was under pressure. He
doubled back the other way and then threw the ball.
I think the guy that he was going to hand
the ball off too, was responsible for throwing to the
corner of the inst That's the only way that they
play design that's going to happen, because otherwise.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I was like, why is he throwing it?
Speaker 8 (27:58):
I thought there was a running play, and now I
realized that the guy that he faked two was supposed
to be going.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
And if you're gonna go wildcat with junkins, then make
it he's running to the bho but b gap or
a gap, you know, something like that. But don't you
know that that's crazy misdirection, misdirection on the on the
what one yard line? And you just I mean, like
I said, malpractice. It was a behole call.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Well do you realize that they practiced it was? They
practiced that play? Okay, over and over because it's on
the call sheet, right.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
And that was the two point play.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That was.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Who the quarterback was.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But that's where you have their point is you got
to you gotta make an adjustment.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
You don't just invent something.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
No I'm not saying that they invented, but there's got
to be some checks and balances. Even in that situation
that somebody calls down and say, hey man, that's not
what we're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Are sing how our quarterbacks play time out?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
We're gonna call a time out here.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Let's say listen, meeting of the minds. Get the owner
on the phone. We're about to call a all cat
reverse throw.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Come on now, wild cat reverse. Do you know how
fake reverse? Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Come on man? All right? You know that was And
see it's almost as if you try I try not
to get into all this conspiracy crap. But it's almost
as if he tries to diminish this guy's output doing
any almost any game that he's in. He's very uh,
he's very very short on the the praise of should
(29:33):
do as well.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
You got a rookie quarterback here who's playing better than
any rookie quarterback has ever played in Cleveland period, and
for you not to give him a little bit more love,
I know you feeling the pressure because he's feeling it
from a lot of people who some of.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Them don't even know what the hell they're talking about,
but some of them do.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
And he's not doing himself any favors by losing games
in the fashion that he's doing it, especially when you
have this gym sitting over here, right up to you,
right who's ready to get in the ball game and
make some things happen. And when he does make it happen,
and then now you minimize whether you.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Think the owner called down and said he's the starting
quarterback for the rest.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Of the starter.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Now the next day, So I wish makes you wonder.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Bad organizations do what bad organizations do, and the Browns
are one of them, And so it doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
They drafted him.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Well, yeah, they did, but then that's a whole conspiracy
on how the hell they drafted him or how he
got there. No, I mean, I don't think there's been
any other player that's been drafted that had five six
other people say we didn't want him in the owner
state up and say, oh, well I did, oh I
didn't want him, And then this's gout that the assistant
general manager say I'm the one that wanted I mean,
come on, man, at the end of the day, the
deal is for people like yourself, Everson, that know the game,
(30:48):
that understand how offensive coordinators work. You know, this guy's
tried to dumb down the offense when he's pasted during
the game. And now, come on, man, anyway, y'all want
talk about the Cowboy?
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, because how many teams passed up on the Dak.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Prescott land it right in your lap? You know, A blessing.
I just yeah, yeah, a blessing.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Sometimes thirty two teams make them.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's what some mishaps. Mishaps can happen, and sometimes they
can project you upward. We need to we need to
send a fruit basket to the Pittsburgh Steelers for George Pickens,
by the way, for mix shots, mix.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
Shots, who was the guy who was the guy that
Dion dumped the gatorader on that time? The commentator who
played reporter news, but he also was a former player.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
He was a catcher and when baseball Okay, I'm sorry, yes,
I'm talking baseball.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
M Tim McCarver.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
Yeah, he's not related to so should we throw related
to Savanski?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Stop it?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Man? Yeah, I thought you just said you didn't go
with conspiracy Theoris get out, all right, you got to
teas ready, you gotta get us the break on its
him the conference grandson, where you come up with that one?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
You need?
Speaker 5 (32:09):
You need Pickens to throw eight Richard Sherman.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh, what is he talking about the way he dog
got picks?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
You want to talk about that when we come back.
When we come back, let me talk about Pickens.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'm check some stuff out.
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Got Okay, we're getting to Rich Sherman versus George Pickens
out there in a roundabout way, going through Dean Sanders
and Tim McCarver.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That's man, that was good. What an angle?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
So what's what's the take you want to And that
was after the game on Thursday night on the Prime
Postgame Show, where Sherman had some pointed comments towards pickens
effort in the game on Thursday night. There have been
others who have said similar things, even Kirk kurb Street
during the game was pointing out some things. So what's
(35:38):
the take here.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
I think Richard Sherman what he said give everybody else
the license to pile on. And he's been known to
say stuff off the cuff that he didn't know what
he's talking.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
So you think no, So wait a minute, So you
think that because Richard Sherman said what he said, then
everybody else started shopping in their knives and say, let's
come out through him. Because Richard Sherman said it, now
it gives us the green light. I mean, Micky, you met.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Hey, it's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
That may actually have been what happened. But I think
that the whole time those critics were waiting in the
wings to say something about him, this whole Pittsburgh Pickings thing.
And the kid, Look, no matter what people say about
George Pickens, he's having a hell of a year. And
I hope the kid has thick skin and comes back
and balls out again to shut everybody up. Pittsburgh lost
one and and if you look at their production that
(36:29):
they've had this season versus what George Pickens is doing
for the Cowboys, it is crumbs to bricks. So Yeah,
keep criticizing, but keep balling three.
Speaker 8 (36:39):
I mean they've they've been They've been waiting on this.
Everyone's been waiting on this all year long. We almost
got it in the Chicago game when he I think
it was Chicago when he dropped him talked about it,
and he slammed his helmet down, which had nothing to.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Do with anything.
Speaker 8 (36:55):
He was mad at you were mad at himself. And
it went nowhere. It went nowhere, And a lot of
that has to do with the fact that he's surrounded
by good teammates.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
So this event enables everybody to either talk or write
about it, to bring up that he was late for
a meeting, he missed the bus.
Speaker 8 (37:15):
Now, all of a sudden, we're chronicling all of these
things that happened, and if you add it all up,
then you're talking about what.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
See, that's why.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
He because I remember when he got here.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
The criticism was because Tomlin said he needed to grow
up or mature, right, and everybody pointed out how many
personal files he got with the Steelers. Yeah, well the
personal files were excessive celebration. So he did something good
to produce something bad, right, and he did it here right.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
He went and jumped on.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
The gold posts or whatever you call it, and everybody
gonna okay, now let's lump that in, right, right, right, Yeah,
it's just trying to pick on the guy. And I
guarantee to you when he does his interview on Thursday
out here, that's going to be the second question, right,
And my advice to him as his advisor is to say,
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next question, Yes, don't try to argue.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
With the masses, because you can't win.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Mickey. How many wide receivers have you seen that have
played with bad quarterbacks, get upset and you know, demand
either demand the ball better. Yeah, absolutely, anyone that's that's
worth this.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
He's and he and and that's the not only was
he in that situation in Pittsburgh, he didn't have a
fellow receiver that was worth squat playing with him. What
do you think defense and no quarterbacks? So what do
you think the defenses were doing? You're not beating me, right,
and so yeah, I just think he You know, I
(38:49):
didn't see what he posted whatever and any deleted.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
I didn't see anything.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
No, I don't look well, I saw it. I mean
it was it was basically he called Richard Sherman a
bunch of names. I can't say you called him Corning
Goofy all of those days as a young man, and
he is and he has his platform, which is his phone,
that he could sit there and he can type out
what he wants. And again that's why I talk about
a kid having thick skin, because when it comes from
(39:16):
like when it comes from media guys, then you're not
gonna say anything, right.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Because that's what they are paid to do. That's what
they do.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
And Richard Sherman is now part of the media, but
I think everybody looks at him as Richard Sherman from
the Legion of Doom, the guy who's you know, guys
should be going to the Hall of Fame, all of
those great things that he's done, and it hits home
when you hear it from that. But Richard Sherman can't
stand on the platform and act as though he's been
perfect as a cornerback. I mean, you got tape out
there Richard Sherman getting burned, you know. So I mean
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it's not like guys don't have bad games. And I
think that's unfortunate and unfair about where we are media wise.
When an ex player can attack a guy that's currently
doing it, and it's not as though he is having
a piss poor year. He is playing his tail off
and trying to put a lot of that stuff behind them,
but they won't let him forget it.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
You can't.
Speaker 8 (40:03):
You can't have aberrations when you're pickings, and you cannot
have those because they're gonna look at that as your pattern.
They're not gonna look at it as a one off thing.
So he's gonna have to deal with that for the
rest of this year, probably for the rest of his career,
because they're gonna always bring up something that happened in
the past, and especially a parting of the ways from
a coach like Thomlins.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's something that they're take they're taking.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
A look at what was the wide receiver the Cowboys
head he was from Pittsburgh or they sent him to Pittsburgh.
They got it through the towel at Parson Bryant, Antonio
Atonio Bryant. Yeah, once he did that, that's it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
That's your reputation, right and you you'll you'll never.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Please don't compare him to that game.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Example, once you do something like that, it stay. And
if you do something else then it's like, well he's
done this, this, and this is.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
One thing that I saw with Pickens. It was never confrontational.
It was always isolation, right, And that's to me, that's
a credit to him, right, because if you want to,
you can instead of going to sitting in the weight room,
because I always remember that they said he just sat
in the weight room, didn't want to talk to reporters.
Instead of just sitting in the weight room not blowing
up at anybody, he could have come out and say
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start going off on reporters. He could have done that,
but I don't think I've ever heard him really shout
anything in anger at anyone.
Speaker 6 (41:28):
Well, it's like Terrell Owens, you know when he would
do his interviews in that locker room and he was
getting baited all the time.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
Right, And I'm sitting there going, you know that commercial
on TV. It was a I think it was a.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
Phone commercial or something Tony Dungey and he had a
helmet on and he was talking to the guy that
was in the car with his date and he was
telling them what to say.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Right.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
And when I'm watching, when I'm watching him trying to
take on fifteen media people, I'm sitting there going, if
I just had that helmet on, I'm telling them what
to say, right, I could tell them what to say.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Get out of this.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
Yeah, and don't be confrontational, because you can't win when
fifteen people are.
Speaker 8 (42:12):
Has Pickings been interviewed in regards to this at all.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
I didn't see after the game.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
He did talk after the game.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
I didn't comment.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
I heard from one of our producers at CBS. He
said he told me I didn't go back and listen
to it, but he said, you need to go listen
to it because he handled himself.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Well, all right, yeah, excellent, and now he's going to
have to do it again.
Speaker 6 (42:33):
And I'm saying, next question, don't even address it.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
What's crazy, though, is that inn example of Terrell Owens
being easy to be baited. Right, you don't question you,
you're questioning his effort, his professionalism as a football player.
And you're saying, man, you ran that slant half asked
whatever because there was a linebacker weight and you didn't
want to get smacked in the mouth. But you don't
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know if the coverage, the play or whatever. I've dictated
him running the route that way meant that he would
run it that way. And so when he turns to
a media guy and say, you don't know what the
hell you're talking about, then that throws the whole thing
off because oh, now he has an attitude, or now
he didn't answer these questions directly, just make a and
sometimes you just make a mistake and sometimes you misread
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the defense. Yeah, sometimes you don't know he's coming at
you until like, oops, there's a ball And it's.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
No offense to X players that are announcers. But because
they've got X on there, that means they know everything,
and it's not always the truth. I had a person
that was in charge of radio broadcasts and we were
talking about being a color analyst on the radio, and
(43:46):
I was told that I would never hire a reporter
that hadn't played football to do the job. And it's like,
so because they played, they know and I wasn't using myself, right,
but they know more than me that has watched football
for fifty years, right because they played.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
And uh, we.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Got into a pretty good discussion about But that's what's
the attitude out there. Your ex you know what you're
talking about. Sometimes you don't.
Speaker 8 (44:16):
Sometimes that stuff is personal, Yeah, sometimes personal, there's.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Stuff going on that with the podcast and everything. A
lot of personal stuff going on there. Yeah, everybody's trying
to rewrite history.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Especially guys.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Why I got That's why I got Bill here. When
I try to he stops me.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Well, we've got just a couple of minutes left. So
if we hit anything on the run.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Now, no, oh, run down this.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
We got a lot of time this. We got three
shows left this week. We're going to dive into.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
The minnisoda like Vikings.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
Yeah, there are some things to look forward to the
rest of the way. Yeah, justin Jefferson problem. Yeah, best
wide receiver in the NFL. How do you defend him?
Can you survive him? Versus stop him? Who must step up?
Bland revel secondary scheme.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
I mean, all these great points, man, all these great
things to talk about.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Cowboys defensive keys must stop the run to control the
game flow. Forced JJ McCarthy into mistakes. How about that?
JJ McCarthy comes back the week before they played the
Cowboys and all of a sudden they win and gave
thirty one to nothing.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
And they have the twenty eighth ranked offense and twenty
sixth ranked scoring team.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Well, that season just started last week, so and.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
They got guys back on defens This Van Ginkle is
a handful, right, So he's a playmaker and he made
a play last week against Washington Peat Washington.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Oh Van Ginkle, he's from Miami for the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
Dolphins. Yeah, so Frian Floris had him there and now
he's got him and by tomorrow I'll find out what
high school he went to.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
I'm sure you don't have you have it down. I
wanted to talk about the offense before we even got
around the Brian flores Is defense, because that's the problem.
That's that is what the legit problem in this game
is going to be his defensive scheme and coming out
to dak what kind of pressure he's going to present present.
But we know dak Is is the man when you
blitz them.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
You know what it is. Schottenheimer will tell you it's
unscouted looks, right, That's right, that's for Brian Flores specializes
in unscouted looks. It means that there's not stuff on
there's different stuff than what is on tape.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
At this point in the season, I think you sound good.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Using right now.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Oh good, it's just coach talk.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Unscouted looks, all right? I think we're out of time.
I think we've done some damage here. Hopefully on will
listen to this.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Sorry, because we'll send it to them.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
We'll send it to it.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
All right, very good, you got them unscouted, Big Nate
fan Frisco.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
He can send it to it, that's.
Speaker 4 (47:12):
Right, Yeah, unscouted.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
Looks you should have used them because you're five and eight.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Said, it's been about time to use it now, All
good going, all right?
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Does it for? Mick?
Speaker 4 (47:22):
Shots will shut at you again tomorrow at.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Noon, O Cowboys.
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