October 13, 2025 • 50 mins
The Cowboys had so many chances to emerge winners in Carolina, but too many miscues and a porous defense against the run sent the Cowboys home with an unexpected loss to the Panthers. The guys examine a few critical plays and put some perspective on where this leaves the Cowboys in the big picture.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well there's no joy in Mudville as we begin a
new week here without Everson Walls once again. Once again,
when they going gets tough, the tough get going.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Welcome to mix Shots, and yes, despite what happened on Sunday,
Heckma says, welcome in s w BC podcast studio. Oh man,
we were supposed to forget that at midnight last night, right,
the midnight rule is in effect. We're moving on.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Right, still sucking my cross.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We got a stew in this for a minute.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Uh huh.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
This is one of those ones. You know you said,
twelve o'clock midnight tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Right, Well, that's what shot he says, you forget. He
forgets win or lose midnight the day of the game,
because they learned that from as Papa.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I bet he hasn't.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
Yeah, So, but what where do we start Bill, Come on, somebody, somebody, well, anybody,
well scream.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Remember a couple of weeks ago, I had glass half full? Class, Yeah,
where's your cup?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Where's your cup? Bring your cup back?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Bill, No reason for it?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It got it got empty.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah it was empty.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Where are we on that right now? No? Me, no me,
I'm look. I'm sure you guys have heard it.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
You've been a part of all the discussions that's been
happening on social media.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Cowboys. Social media is on fire right now.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
That's why I stay off of it.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Make you would know if the world was ending, if
you were getting your news from social media.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, but it's right now.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Man, there's a there's a lot of different opinions, and
I'll just start with mine. I think right now, as
far as just take the offense out of it defensively,
this is probably as worse to showing as we you know,
when it comes down to it was before stopping the past.
Now in the last couple of weeks, it's been stopping
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to run. I watched a guy in Ricodoubele make a
promise and deliver on that promise, and that was nothing
that our defense could do to stop it. You know,
that Carolina lined Say that again, yeah well, yeah, well
Carolina lined up and they put a hat on a
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hat and they whooped us.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And you can't. You can make all the excuses and
it can be.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
The the ebra flus whatever you want to do. When
guys just don't show up to the party, when guys
are not establishing the line of scrimmage, when your linebackers
just for lack of the guy in front of them
blowing assignments but not getting to the tackle, not making
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the tackle, and secondary wise, the communication is completely off.
And how many times have we seen guys look at
one another with this expression?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right here? Turn and what were you supposed to do?
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What am I supposed? What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 7 (03:48):
And there are some usual suspects always around the misfortune,
And I don't know. Donovan Wilson is one of those
guys that this season has probably gotten off to his
worst a start as any safety could have right now.
But you gotta ask, you gotta it begs the question
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what is he looking at? Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What is he? What is he?
Speaker 7 (04:15):
If your assignment is you know, past this deep third?
Why are you trying to jump something in front of you?
Why is your responsible if you're responsibly like you hear
teams and you hear coaches say it all the time.
Bill Belichick always says this, do your job, and if
you do your job, you let another guy do his
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and then you won't have two guys in the same area.
But I'm just watching this game on Sunday, and I'm
saying to myself, this is this is about as bad
as I've seen a Dallas Cowboys defense. And you can
go back to the twenty twenty season, whatever, but right now,
the brand of ball that they're playing and the way
that they're getting whooped at the line of scrimmage, to
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me is what's laughable and what's embarrassing for all Dallas
Cowboy fans right now. And you know, it's a big
question mark around all of this. And you know, I
think through the week we're gonna try and find the answers,
but I don't know if you're ever gonna get an answer.
If you're gonna keep these same personnel, same guys running
back out there on the field.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, you don't have many choices, do you.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
No. Okay, they exhausted the roster out there. Here's the
worst part and Donovan Wilson. They basically told you what
they were gonna do. You know those old restaurants that
used to put up the eat sign and it would
be flashing E a t eat.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Ric o'donald told you what they were gonna do.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
They came out and I haven't counted it up, but
I'll guarantee you the far majority of their formations was
two tight ends.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
So what are you gonna do when you got two
tight ends out there?
Speaker 8 (05:56):
We're gonna run the ball. They put three tight ends
out there, Well.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
What are they gonna do. They're gonna run the football.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Except on the second play of the game, where they
put three tight ends out there and they threw it
to one of the.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Tight ends because because no one covered them right, no
one rerouted him.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
He just got a free release down the field.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
That's the most rushing yards they've given up seventeen games ago.
They gave up two hundred and twenty three. They gave
up two hundred and sixteen yards rushing. They made no
bones about what they were going to do. And here's
the worst part. It's not ric o'doddle. I could have
run through some of those holes. Schottenheimer pointed out after
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the game that seventy five to eighty percent of their
runs nobody got touched until five to six yards downfield.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
And that was the problem. The defensive line was getting mauled.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
I mean mauled to the point where they were knocking
the Cowboys defensive linemen off the field, and they still
got released to get to the linebackers. There were times
they were playing two tight ends. The Cowboys were in
a nickel defense. I need another linebacker up there. I
don't need Ready Stewart, Ready Stewart up there right trying
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to make tackles. And they were just getting blown off
the line of scrimmage. And so if you're going to
have that happen to you, you're going to turn Bryce
Young into a Pro Bowl quarterback. Yes, his quarterback rating
is the second highest of his career, one hundred and
fourteen point whatever. Eight eight I think, yeah, eight three
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touchdowns that that offense doesn't function that way. But they
told you they were going to run the ball, and
you weren't better prepared to stop.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know, and I haven't had a chance but to
go through the first part of the first quarter so far. First,
then if you look at the first series shame to
your point on when they had nickel defense out there
where it appeared it was two tight ends on one
of those eighty seven. Bryce and Tremaine is actually a
wide receiver, right, and so I think what their adjustment
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was when eighty seven they had him in their substitutions
as a wide receiver, and so that's when they went nickel.
But he is a bigger wide receiver, and he's kind
of a tweiner between a tight end and a wide receiver.
So that's who and that's that's the point is he
can block. And so they personnel was nickel, but they
were they were using him more as a tight end type,
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more of a bunch formation.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
It just you know, and it just continued and continued
and continued, and nothing was worse than them getting the
ball back in a tie game with six oh seven
to go and they ate the entire clock up.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
To kick a field goal.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Couldn't they couldn't stop them fourth and four? Right?
Speaker 8 (09:01):
Why is Bland playing eight nine yards off the receiver?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
All he had to do is come out of this
outside leverage too.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, all he had to do is come out.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I mean Greg called it at the snap. They're going
to the slot.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Yeah, I could even see that, right, and his first
step was back.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
I can't believe that's.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Where he was supposed to line up. I just can't
believe that that was the defensive call. And so things
like that, and so what happens is when your defense
is playing like that, the offense has to be perfect,
and they weren't perfect. They kicked two field goals inside
the ten yard line.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Can't have that.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
And you guys have heard me say it, more field
goals you kicked the closer your eyre to losing.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Gotta have touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
They left eight points on the field because they couldn't
get into the end zone because they could not run
the football thirty one years, thirty one years thirty one rushing?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Are you kidding me? What happened?
Speaker 8 (10:03):
What happened to that great defensive offensive line? Got two
starters back in right? Maybe they should have had all
four beckups in there, and I don't believe that.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
But yeah, this is when you bring up that really
is a is a sore spot for me, and I
was hoping we brought that up later, but we're going
to start. It's just that that to me, I have
a hard time dealing with that because you know that
guys are smart enough to understand and have situational awareness
to be closer to than that and to at least
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defend to the sticks. And when you don't defend to
the sticks, then you're saying to your you're saying to
the world, you're saying to Bryce Young, I am giving
you this. And it'd be a different thing if Murray,
if his responsibility was underneath and he was lined up
more over to that side, then over to the left,
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whatever he's contemplating at that schematically, if you don't want
to give up what you're doing defensively, you're fourth and
four and I'm just saying, cheat over. She just cheat
over some and we can talk about Bland whatever the
defense was.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And I'm yelling time out. I'm yelling call time out.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Don't allow this play to run because everybody that mother
knows where the ball is gonna go. But I just
I feel like that is that's not smart football. But
that's just I'm using the right words. It's just not
smart football when you have guys that have played the
game as long as Bland and Murray have played the
game to allow that to be picked up on a
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quick slant and it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Was a throw.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
It was a throw by the way that Bryce Young
had to it had to be a laser shot. But
that was the only one, the only option that he had,
and he took the one that you gave him defensively,
and that's that's a hard pill to swallow. And I'm
sure Eva Flus in film study when these guys are
circling this thing up and he's sitting there and he's
saying it to his guys, this can be the way
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that we're practicing it. So why do you get out
here and do something completely different than the way that
we're practicing it? Defensive line got wise, Osa Diggi Zua
just some of the gap responsibilities from O Diggiezua and company.
Like guys, he can't be coaching two gap up that way.
He can't be telling guys to blow your assignment and
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jump out of a hole and leave a bit gaping
hole behind you because you're getting gashed in the running game.
And as you just guys just said, look, you're getting
beat up up front, and not only are you giving
them the running game, but they passed the ball on
you at will basically and that's what's going to happen
obviously when you're having that kind of success in your
running game.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Well, they tried it with some success.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
They start playing a five man front and it did
bottle things up because they kind of fit in the
gaps a little bit better. But again, if you got
five up there, then you're sacrificing somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
They just don't We've said this before. They don't seem
to play with their eyes. It's like just look watch
recognize you know. They didn't redo their entire offense, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Same one.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's not like they were fooling you.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
They basically told you what they were gonna do, and
they did it. And as Dak Prescott said that Rico
got the last.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Laugh, Well a Teto McMillan who.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Hadn't had a touchdown catch yet.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Well he did, he did, he did. He got him too,
He got him too yesterday. But we made that guys
look good. We made Jimmy Horn, the guy that you mentioned,
the other Horn, the other Horn, made him look good
on those gadget plays that he came in on.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It. It was a it was a mess.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
But you know what, and it was but you still
got to score. They know, they got to score thirty points.
They got to score thirty points or more to win.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Twenty seven, Mickey, in all these years that you've been doing,
is twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Seven on the road.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Oh, that would be great.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Twenty seven on the road, Mick, Like, you'll take that anywhere.
If I told you, if I told you Friday they
were going to score twenty seven points on the road,
you would have walked out of here and said, we
won that football game.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Just count up how many points they've given up losing, right.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Twenty four was the fewest.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Wow scored forty and couldn't win. Wow had a tie,
scored you know, twenty seven, Okay, but no, they gave
up thirty.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
On the fourth and four or fourth and three whatever
it was. Slant to rentfro where we're talking Kenneth Murray
and we're talking Deron Bland. Here in the break, I
want I've got the end zone copy, and so I
want both of you to look at it, and then
we'll discuss on the other side of the break what
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we're looking at here. I encourage everyone to look at
the end zone copy on the ALL twenty two to
see the alignment on defense where Murray is lined up,
and but in what formation Carolina has their empty formation?
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The gap between where is it Thomas or and whereas
Araku are lining up? And I want to save it
for after the break because I want you all to
look at it so that we're well informed to discuss
what was supposed to happen there. But before that, before that,
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the Cowboys had it in their power offensively on their
last position what turned out to be their last possession
of the game. And your credit Carolina for making the
plays to keep, you know, on a four yard loss
on a screen pass to start that possession, and then
there were checkdowns after that because now you're second and
fourteen and then you're what were the third and twenty
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or something like that after a six.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yard laws or eight yards twenty two.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, but it gets back to what you pointed out, Mickey,
is the inability to run the football. The Cowboys should
have been able, even getting the ball with eight minutes left,
to be able to basically do now. They may not
have been able to run off eight minutes of the
clock starting at their own forty five, but they it
was in their power to conceivably do what Carolina did
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to them when they got the ball with six minutes left,
they run the clock all the way down and get
a and the Cowboys had the ability to score a
touchdown with their offense and put the game away offensively.
And so I think when Schottenheimer looks at things he's
and when he's talking after the game about we need
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to be more physical, he's not talking just on defense.
He's talking on offense. And the inability to run the
football came back to bite them in the most critical
point of the game right there.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
And to set that up, they're at the forty six.
They need ten fifteen yards to be in field goal range.
Right now, you don't want a field goal there, you
want to drive down the field.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
They end up losing yards instead of going forward.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I mean, but if you hand the ball off to
Williams's right, you're okay.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
But they try a bad.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Run, you get one yard, two yards. Now you're second, second,
eight or nine instead of second and fourteen, and you
can do more offensively.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
And they tried to fool them with that rollout and
then throw back.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
To Williams and they had it stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
And it didn't at that point where well they they.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Had basically screams forming on either side where I think
it was. Fillinoy was in motion and he was not
going downfield. He was an outlet on the right side,
and they got penetration. And so I can't remember who
got away from Steel and so Dak was under pressure too,
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but Mark had it snuffed out the right defense.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
To I think at that point.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
At that point, Bill, that defensive line for the Carolina Panthers,
when you're talking about running the ball, A'shawn Robinson showed
up and showed out, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
We local guys, Ashawn Robinson from Marlington Heights and Bobby Brown.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Yes, they cowboy fans since birth. And I'm assuming that
I don't know, but I know that those guys the
defensive line showed you that they were not going to
allow Javonte Williams to beat you.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And most we didn't even mention Derek Brown.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
No, imagine that right, And so you're saying, we're gonna
take away one of the things that you guys do,
and that's what most defenses do. We're not gonna allow
you to have everything. We're just gonna try and take
away something. And they were successful at taking away the run,
and my philosophy at that point is George Pickens is
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killing them. Okay, okay, we could talk about what Rico did,
but can we talk about that George Pickens is literally unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
All right?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
And I understand sharing this distribution to everybody else, but man,
when the game is on the line, get the ball
into the hands of your guy that you know can
get it done for you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
There's nothing.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
They had no answer for George Pickens the entire game.
Allow him to eat, move him around, put him in
the slot, put him in motion, do something with him,
do something with him.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
At that point where you throw him the ball.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I'm talking about, when you get to that point, go
to your best player and throw him the ball. Don't
allow it to be you didn't throw it to him.
You didn't throw it to him.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Did they think that?
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I don't know, but I'm saying at that point, it
doesn't matter what they thought. You shoard nine at nine
catches one hundred and sixty eight yards. It didn't matter
what they thought. They couldn't stop it, and so give
them another dose of it.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They might have tripled team them.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Well, they had better triple team them because they couldn't
stop it. Is what I'm saying, And when you can't
stop it, keep feeding it, because that's exactly what they
did to rico' daddle. Keep giving that man the ball.
I'msa say, I'm gonna keep yelling it.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
What was the biggest play on that outside of the
fourth and three? Okay, on the Carolina drive, The next
play was just as big as the fourth and three
because with the timeout situation, the Cowboys with just two
timeouts left. When Dawdle goes for nine yards, the game
is over.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
First down, right, they own first down?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
The game is over when because now you've got to
spend your timeouts and you don't. So the Renfro catch
came with two minutes left, right, and then is that
first play and they're not their borderline field goal range
at that point? Okay, Carolina, is if you stop Dawdle
on to a reasonable game instead of nine yards, then
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with just two timeouts left, you don't have enough time
to save clock. Yeah, it went second and one. Game
is over at that point.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I believe I packed up my stuff at that mm hmm,
that it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Was time to go head down.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
What end of the game wasn't the fourth and three?
It was the nine yard run on first and ten
that ended the game.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
And you could not we would And I've heard others
talk about this third down, how bad we were on
third down, and how three for eight on third down
is so misleading when you look at the stats, because
they owned us on first and second down.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They owned us.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
I mean, if if Rico Daldle was playing flag football,
we wouldn't have taken the flag off of him, and
first down if passed past five six yards, And that is.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The most telling thing, is the only head eight third
downs in the game Carolina. Yeah, they didn't get to
third down.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's just it's one of those games.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
And I never like to see a game where I
come and look at the stat sheet and Dak has
thrown the ball for forty forty five times.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But this would have been that game.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
If I'd come into any game where Dak should have,
you know, thrown thirty for forty thirty for forty five,
I would have liked to come back and look at
that stat sheet because look what the Carolina Panthers were
doing with your offensive line. They were owning you, and
where Dak had opportunity to get out, step up in
the pocket, things like there are a few and far
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in between. But I tell you what he did do.
He made opportunities happen down the field, and he again
Dak Prescott lights out, and he's gonna have one of
those games. We don't know when it's gonna come, but
he's gonna have a game. He's not gonna be on.
And God bless us all when that happens, because I
know our defense at this point, manhatn't proven that they
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could stop anybody.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
All right, I'm going to show y'all the end zone
copy on that fourth and three play, and we'll come
back and talk about that and more on this run
defense and what the Cowboys might have been able to
do differently to at least manage the run game a
little bit better defensively when we come back in just
(23:23):
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Speaker 4 (25:56):
All right, real quick, we don't need to dwell on it.
But on this fourth four play, the slant to Renfro,
we were looking at the end zone copy and that
gives you the proper perspective on the spacing on the
defensive line and the linebackers and so forth. And basically,
just in a nutshell, what you had here the alignment
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that the Cowboys had defensively whatever game that they were
running to try to get to the quarterback. On that play,
you've got three defensive linemen to let's this is from
the Cowboys perspective to the right side of the hash
mark on the right side, okay, and you had Azeraku,
who was the lone defensive lineman on the left side.
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He was on the hash mark on the other side.
So Murray is in the gap between It looks like
Solomon Thomas and Aseraku, which is basically if you just
picture the hash marks, okay, You've got no defender, no
defensive line between the hash marks, and so Murray is
the guy that is is the one defender that is
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in that spot. Carolina is running an empty backfield right there.
You have to have a defender there to guard against
the quarterback draw because you got three offensive linemen between
those hash marks. And so that's why Murray was situated
where he was. In the alignment that the Cowboys had.
They Blands playing off on the slot Carolina's left side
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of their offense. He's in the slot, he's playing off
and so is easy pickings for Renfro to run the
slant and get the throw, and Murray didn't have time
to get over and get back to defend it. They
could have run the Legett is lined up in the
slot to the right side with the Cowboy defender with
outside leverage on him. If he runs a slant, Murray's
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in great position to defend that.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
So but Murray's responsibility was clearly the other side because
that's where he goes as soon as the ball is snaw.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I think he read that.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Okay, he's not coming on, he's throwing, and so he
got there. He's breeding the quarterback's eyes and that's where
he's going. There's time to get there.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
There's no way he if he was that far over
to the left or the offense is right, there's no
way that he would have gotten there in time anyway.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Which is why got to play.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
And then based off of that alignment that you just shown,
even if they decided to go with a quarterback sneak,
they still would have picked up the four yards because
of the space between him and the next defender.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Right, there's no way.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
I mean, they got a space between the back of
that wall into mix shots that they would.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Have had to free offensive lineman to block Murray. They
could have run the quarterback draw.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
There wasn't another linebacker out there was there.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I've got to look. Let me back up to see where.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You got to widden your angle to find the next linebacker.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
The angle here, yeah, I can't get it up.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
But either way, man, that's that's one of the they
caught you. They caught you, and they could have obviously
still Bryce Young had this option to either throwing the
slant to the get or throwing the slant to imminently
who would end up going to.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So what you had Marquise Bell out there. Bell was
out Bell was out there. They had trips right, and
then two receivers to the left, and you had Digs
and maybe maybe Steward. No, that's Bland. That's Digs and
Bland were Diggs had the slot guy right. Diggs has
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the outside receiver on the left side. Bland had the slot.
That's what I meant, right, And then on the other
side he had three DB's on the left side. And
you had one year playing a he was in Chapel
Hill save trade.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
So while I mean, seriously, they got far back his
other open screen.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
He's nineteen yards off the line of scrimmage. He's at
the twenty one yard line on fourth and why oh my, yes,
it literally Chapel Hill. I mean seriously, the ball is
just inside the forty and I believe it's Wan Yer
whoever the deep safety is. It's single high the deep
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safety is at the twenty one yard line, nineteen yards
off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
So they were gambling that they were going to go
for it all.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
So do we think do we think that that the
coach lined them up there? That's what we don't know
exactly right. It reminds me of I remember this is
going back when Roy Williams was playing safety for the Cowboys.
It reminds me I think it was a game against
San Francisco, and basically it was a fourth and two
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or a third and two situation where clearly they end
the game if they get a first down. They were
in their own end of the field third and two,
and Roy is playing twenty yards back in the secondary.
I mean, there's no and it's like three tight ends.
It's a bunch formation, and he's playing twenty yards back safety.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And that's what Hey, that's why Bill I was screaming
time out, time out.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
The alignment is all wrong cause, as.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
It turned out, you didn't have enough timeouts anyway. If
they get the if they get the first out, you've
already burned wal You've already burned walk.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
So you're gonna I mean, and here's the thing, I mean,
this is the one catch he made was the one
to just pretty much ended all Hunter refro. One catch
for seven yards. That's literally all he needed.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Okay, So what did you guys think of the interference
call on third and seven? Oh, on Kyrie at the
seventeen yard lineep, Yeah, that.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Guy was falling. Look, it's like even Olsen said it,
it's like.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Quarter yeah, arguing flags in the NFL. It's just this
that this man and I looked, I saw another interference
with Diggs. It was Diggs and Ready Stewart. They both
committed it at the same time.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
So I mean that that was obvious. That was obvious,
and this and the question on that was there there
was a defensive hold on Steward. And remember the officials
got together, and I would imagine their conversation was was
digs hold? Was it was a ball in the air?
Was it a past interference rather than a hold?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And I think they called both of them. I mean
basically you couldn't miss both of them, and they just
determined the ball wasn't in the air on the Digs one,
and so they called it on Stewart.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Yeah, the one on Kyrie, Alam, I really looked. I
didn't think it was as egregious as any of the
other ones that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I thought that was a hard one to call.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
But but even then, okay, all right, so they got
the call. Now it's first down at the twenty nine
yard line, and what happens on first at the twenty
nine yard line. Rico goes for nine yards. So twice
on that drive. Rico goes for nine yards on first
down there, and then after they converted the third and
(33:12):
one with the with the rollout and passed to Tremble,
Rico goes for four yards on first down, three yards
and okay, then they on the renfro what we talked
about before, first and ten at the thirty three yard line. Yeah,
Rico goes for nine. Game over. Yeah, and the game
started that way too, and it ended that to the
(33:34):
first drive of the game, which gets me to ask
this question. Okay, first play of the game, Rico goes
for nine yards. Then it's the the uh pass to
the tight end for twenty one, the rookie tight end
Mitchell elevens, and then Rico goes for twelve.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Okay, no one touched him and they had six.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
They Cowboys started Marshawn Neeland at defensive end. He played
twenty snaps in the game. He missed last week with
an injury. He's got an ankle injury. And here's my question,
And so I feel for Marshawn Neelan because he was
limited in practice throughout the week. I had a question
whether he was even going to play just because of that. Okay,
(34:18):
he was. He didn't sit out any practice, but he
did miss last week's game. And so how many defensive
ends are on this roster? Who is the best run
defending defensive end on this Rosterlan Neeland is, So he
starts the game at defensive end, no One. They're going
to run the ball. It was obvious from the first
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play of the game, Dowdle's nine yard run, which they
ran right at Nielan. And then on his second play
he's on skates as Tremble is the tight ends blocking him.
And I just feel for Kneelan that he's in this
position because clearly he cannot plant and defend the run
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like he normally does.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But you do not.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
This team misses DeMarcus Lawrence so much d law throughout
his career here, and it's a It's an unselfish thing
as a defensive end to defend the run because you
want sacks is what makes you money in this league.
And to de Law's credit, throughout his career, he was
(35:28):
a baller as far as defending the run. And the
Cowboys just don't have defensive ends. I think, as a rock,
who's going to get there? And I think that they
saw that on his tape at Boston College that he
can have that, but he's not there yet at his size.
But that's what this team I think is missing big time.
And the other part of it is there's such a
(35:48):
mindset and Micah had this mindset going after the quarterbacks
so much. You're crashing so much. What about setting the
edge on defense? Yep, it's not happening.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
And if you go back and look at those runs
up the middle, they were double teaming both tacks.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Exactly, and they double team at both tackles to the
point where they're driving them back into the linebackers.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
They're going, yeah, that's right, yep.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
And they said we can single block these defensive vents
file and a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Of times the defensive end's taking them out. They're blocking
them with wide receivers yeah, probably because the defensive end
is taking them. Sam Williams on It was on Dadle's
eight yard run at the twenty one yard line. Sam's
crashing and he almost got to the quarterback, but the
quarterback didn't have at all. Right, Rico's got the ball
and it was Legett who was supposedly blocking Williams, but
(36:41):
Sam he crashed and I was he coached to do that?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
The problem I have with that is they didn't start
that in that final drive. They did that for four
quarter and they that they pulled that off over and
over again, and at some point an adjustment has to
be made. I agree with you about Marcia and Neelan,
and I agree with you what you're saying about DeMarcus Lawrence,
but he ain't coming back through that right and even.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'm not and I'm not saying because he's hurt right
now in Seattle at his age, I'm not saying that
they needed to re sign the DeMarcus Lawrence. But that
is what they're missing on this defensive line.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I think.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
And and Donovan as a Roco too, is to like
you said, a young guy that you see those flashes
of him being able to step up and stop the run.
But your linebacker and play linebacker play right now, is
is way below average.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Shamar is getting a lot of tackles.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But he's getting a lot of tackles.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Twelve yards downfield.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You know called tackling guys is wallet.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Not Rico's the play. I was talking about Rico's twelve
yard run or where tremble block Kneelan, Yeah, put him
on skates and uh, Chamar, it was a little counter
Dalbold had one step to the right. Well, Chamar went
to his left and then he's got to work through
(38:01):
the trash to get over He He probably got credited
with a tackle, but it was twelve yards downfield and
you're got a rookie line Brookie, it was one year
old linebacker.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
It was so bad.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
I don't think I even went to look at the
defensive stats after the game.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
No, No, I just did.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Now.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
He had eleven tackles. Eleven tackles, Murray had seven, seven,
Wilson had.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Somebody's got to make the tackle.
Speaker 8 (38:27):
Stop me when I get to a defensive lineman. Wilson
had six, Stewart had five, Leah File had four, a
while Sam Williams had four.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And James Houston actually had three or four tackles.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
And Houston only Houston had four. Okay, but the guy
that did something was Lea File.
Speaker 8 (38:51):
He had four tackles, one sack, one tackle for loss,
and one quarterback hit. They only hit the quarterback five times. Yeah,
one sack five times.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
That's because they kept handing off and we thought they
had it fixed because they sacked the Jets five times. Yeah, no,
this is well, here's the other thing that we haven't
mentioned as far as the run defense. There's a first
round draft pick from two years ago that was inactive. Well, oh, Mazi, Yeah,
(39:26):
Mazzi was inactive, and so Joe, you've got the seventh
round rookie taking his spot.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And Toya didn't. That's why he didn't have his best game.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
He was getting He couldn't deal with the double teams. Well,
he couldn't hold the ground.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's that's I guess, Mickey.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
That's where I am with this defense, because I think
a guy like Toya his entire career, he's been double team.
No one's been trying to single block any of these guys.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
But he was a seventh round Now.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
I understand I'm just saying what you're used to going
up against, what you're used to seeing the thing for.
You know, number ninety seven you got. These are guys
Osadiggie Zoo. They're used to seeing that. And here's the
other part about it is Kenny Clark. We are asking
Kenny Clark, just like we're asking Dak to be on
his A game each in every game, and he's trying
(40:17):
to hold it in the road. But he can't do
it by himself. He can't, I mean, especially if it's
all going the hell in the handbasket.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Around him and he's getting doubled triple, both of them
are getting doubled inside.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
But you're looking at the alignment.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
We just saw the alignment that had one linebacker with
three linemen in front of them.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I mean, that's never gonna work.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
That's never gonna work if you if you're asking Kenneth
Murray to take that on, he ain't that good.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Whether I think on that one, I think they were
clearly they're running a game to try to get this is.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Gonna stunt back into the whole some kind.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Of way, right, And they didn't feel like Young was
gonna run a quarterback draw ye know that size.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I guess that's a perfect time to gamble.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
But you gambled wrong either way, because he's still completes
a seven yard passed to Hunter Renfro. Again, I don't
know what Duran Bland is thinking on that play. I
don't know why he would be set up so far
to the outside on the play like that when he
knows that they only have to go four yards to
get to the sticks? Why not set up at the sticks?
And I would think, would you think that Deron Bland
(41:22):
is a better zone or man cover which one? I mean,
I've always thought of him, and I always think of
him like Digs, You know, both of those guys. I
think they're better in short spaces than they are off
the ball.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
And well they they weren't in zone on that he
knew that was his guy.
Speaker 7 (41:43):
I'm just saying, when you're eight yards off the ball,
doesn't matter what you're in.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Well, did Bland think the safety was maybe ten yards
downfield instead of twenty yards downfield? I mean it would
have helped if the safe he lines up at the
thirty instead of the twenty one.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
Right right right, And again, Mickey, I only bring that
up to say be closer to the line.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Of But you don't know what he was told to do.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Okay, it is fourth and fourth, but.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
To that point, like he's got outside leverage on the slot,
and maybe he thought that the safety was playing up
at the ten yards off the line of scribbage instead
of twenty yards off and he's got help across the metal.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
See, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
And there's a case to be careful what you hurt
wish for. Hooker's not in there now and everybody's on him, right,
he's not in there.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Fourth and four.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
You're playing backups, free release. You're playing backups and a slant.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
That's the easiest throw for the quarterback to pick up
four yards if that's what he's going for, and you're
already eight eight yards.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Nine yards on the ound.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Here's the other day.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
We got to go to break.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
As we talked about, there are three defensive linemen up
to that side of the field. That means you got
six hands there. That a five to ten quarterbas quarterbacks,
anybody got their hands five to eleven quarterback has to
throw through six hands.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Let me hit it.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, come on, now here we go. Anybody get their
hands up.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Nobody, No nobody got their hands up.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
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Speaker 4 (45:45):
All Right, we just got like a couple minutes out here,
so make you.
Speaker 8 (45:48):
Think we need to put some perspective on the loss.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Okay, let's do that.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
So we talked on Friday about the Eagles getting beat,
and nobody had fewer laws is in the NFC East,
then the Cowboys two losses. Everybody had two or more losses, right,
and now you.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Down your leg and now you lose.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
When you have an opportunity to be right in the race,
right going up against a two and three team.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
And you're just a half game ahead of the Giants now,
ahead of the Giants now, and that loss really gives perspective.
Speaker 8 (46:29):
And I set it on Friday that this was going
to be a test to see where the Cowboys are.
All right, they were on somewhat of a role with
a tie a win. You win this game, you get
to three to two and one, and you're feeling good
about yourself, and you get beat and not just get beat,
you got beat beat. And this one's gonna hurt, and
(46:52):
it's going to take a lot to recover on Sunday
against Washington, which plays tonight. Correct, and it's almost like, Okay,
you're starting to get close to fading if you don't
recover and win a game.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
You got Washington Sunday and then the following Sunday at Denver.
Speaker 8 (47:13):
At Denver, and then is it Arizona on a Monday
night game.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Monday night game, so yeah, it's almost.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
And then a Monday night game against Vegas after bye week.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
I saw something Friday I thought was pretty clever at
a high school game. Every time the opposing team got
a penalty and they backed them up, I heard this
beeping go on, and I was looking behind me in
the stands because I was way up the time.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
I go, why is that truck out there? No, they
were playing the beat beat beep as the truck.
Speaker 8 (47:44):
Was backed up when they were were walking off the penalty,
and I said, oh, that's brilliant, right, And it made
me think the Cowboys right now, there's a beat beat
beep going on right now, backing up.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
They're backing up.
Speaker 7 (48:00):
Look, it's as bad as you can't count it twice.
But that's a bad one right there. For the film,
for everything, for Morale talked about moments and momentum. We
lost our moment and the momentum was snatched right out
of our mouth.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Okay, the.
Speaker 8 (48:15):
Two of the three losses in a tie, we're all
bad moments, right. They had an opportunity and every one
of those to win, yep, and they didn't make the play.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Okay, When the schedule came out. You got Washington at
home and then at Denver. What did you expect the
Cowboys to do in those two games? Two and oh
one and one or zero and two oh and these
two these next two games coming up one, So that
now what you have to do to make up for
Carolina yesterday you got to go to and you gotta
go to and oh yep, and that makes up for Carolina.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
Right, that's a large ass.
Speaker 8 (48:54):
When you expect the worst, you get their best. And
when you expect the best, you get their worst. And
that has five hundred sitting all over.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
So I'm expecting the worst the next two weeks.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Shout out to Ricodollo. Shoutout to Rico Doll. I can't
say enough about the job he did yesterday. And by
the way, I mean he was here. I never seen
him perform like that. When he was here, I'm like,
who is this guy?
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Who is the guy?
Speaker 5 (49:18):
I didn't have holes like that?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
But he'd have thirty? Did he have a thirty carry game?
The whole time he was.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Carry?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Who is this guy?
Speaker 8 (49:30):
But you know what, afterwards he was on national TV
and he was polite. He gave credit to his offensive line,
and he didn't. They were trying to get him to
talk about the buckle up.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
And he never that's because he's a free agent.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
He didn't mention it.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Right, he's a free agent after this year, and he's
getting a one year deal with.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
He's getting he's getting close to hitting all his incentives.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Look at this guy's incentives, by the way, I looked
at a bunch of half a million dollar incentives that he's.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Going to reach.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
He didn't have a lot of incentives.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Tell you to Okay, all right, we don't have time
to get into the contract. So all right, how about
we do it again tomorrow, and how about we do
it with a Pro Bowl cornerback in our midst to
get his take.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
Are we going to give him his opportunity or passing over?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (50:15):
No, he gets you the opportunity tomorrow. Ever, sna be
back tomorrow and we'll shout at you at noon on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Go Cowboys.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
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and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
Well there's no joy in Mudville as we begin a
new week here without Everson Walls once again. Once again,
when they going gets tough, the tough get going.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Welcome to mix Shots, and yes, despite what happened on Sunday,
Heckma says, welcome in s w BC podcast studio. Oh man,
we were supposed to forget that at midnight last night, right,
the midnight rule is in effect. We're moving on.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Right, still sucking my cross.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
We got a stew in this for a minute.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Uh huh.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
This is one of those ones. You know you said,
twelve o'clock midnight tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Right, Well, that's what shot he says, you forget. He
forgets win or lose midnight the day of the game,
because they learned that from as Papa.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I bet he hasn't.
Speaker 7 (01:30):
Yeah, So, but what where do we start Bill, Come on, somebody, somebody, well, anybody,
well scream.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Remember a couple of weeks ago, I had glass half full? Class, Yeah,
where's your cup?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Where's your cup? Bring your cup back?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Bill, No reason for it?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
It got it got empty.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah it was empty.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Where are we on that right now? No? Me, no me,
I'm look. I'm sure you guys have heard it.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
You've been a part of all the discussions that's been
happening on social media.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Cowboys. Social media is on fire right now.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
That's why I stay off of it.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Make you would know if the world was ending, if
you were getting your news from social media.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, but it's right now.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
Man, there's a there's a lot of different opinions, and
I'll just start with mine. I think right now, as
far as just take the offense out of it defensively,
this is probably as worse to showing as we you know,
when it comes down to it was before stopping the past.
Now in the last couple of weeks, it's been stopping
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to run. I watched a guy in Ricodoubele make a
promise and deliver on that promise, and that was nothing
that our defense could do to stop it. You know,
that Carolina lined Say that again, yeah well, yeah, well
Carolina lined up and they put a hat on a
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hat and they whooped us.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And you can't. You can make all the excuses and
it can be.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
The the ebra flus whatever you want to do. When
guys just don't show up to the party, when guys
are not establishing the line of scrimmage, when your linebackers
just for lack of the guy in front of them
blowing assignments but not getting to the tackle, not making
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the tackle, and secondary wise, the communication is completely off.
And how many times have we seen guys look at
one another with this expression?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right here? Turn and what were you supposed to do?
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What am I supposed? What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 7 (03:48):
And there are some usual suspects always around the misfortune,
And I don't know. Donovan Wilson is one of those
guys that this season has probably gotten off to his
worst a start as any safety could have right now.
But you gotta ask, you gotta it begs the question
(04:10):
what is he looking at? Sometimes?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
What is he? What is he?
Speaker 7 (04:15):
If your assignment is you know, past this deep third?
Why are you trying to jump something in front of you?
Why is your responsible if you're responsibly like you hear
teams and you hear coaches say it all the time.
Bill Belichick always says this, do your job, and if
you do your job, you let another guy do his
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and then you won't have two guys in the same area.
But I'm just watching this game on Sunday, and I'm
saying to myself, this is this is about as bad
as I've seen a Dallas Cowboys defense. And you can
go back to the twenty twenty season, whatever, but right now,
the brand of ball that they're playing and the way
that they're getting whooped at the line of scrimmage, to
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me is what's laughable and what's embarrassing for all Dallas
Cowboy fans right now. And you know, it's a big
question mark around all of this. And you know, I
think through the week we're gonna try and find the answers,
but I don't know if you're ever gonna get an answer.
If you're gonna keep these same personnel, same guys running
back out there on the field.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, you don't have many choices, do you.
Speaker 8 (05:19):
No. Okay, they exhausted the roster out there. Here's the
worst part and Donovan Wilson. They basically told you what
they were gonna do. You know those old restaurants that
used to put up the eat sign and it would
be flashing E a t eat.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Ric o'donald told you what they were gonna do.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
They came out and I haven't counted it up, but
I'll guarantee you the far majority of their formations was
two tight ends.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
So what are you gonna do when you got two
tight ends out there?
Speaker 8 (05:56):
We're gonna run the ball. They put three tight ends
out there, Well.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
What are they gonna do. They're gonna run the football.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Except on the second play of the game, where they
put three tight ends out there and they threw it
to one of the.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Tight ends because because no one covered them right, no
one rerouted him.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
He just got a free release down the field.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
That's the most rushing yards they've given up seventeen games ago.
They gave up two hundred and twenty three. They gave
up two hundred and sixteen yards rushing. They made no
bones about what they were going to do. And here's
the worst part. It's not ric o'doddle. I could have
run through some of those holes. Schottenheimer pointed out after
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the game that seventy five to eighty percent of their
runs nobody got touched until five to six yards downfield.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
And that was the problem. The defensive line was getting mauled.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
I mean mauled to the point where they were knocking
the Cowboys defensive linemen off the field, and they still
got released to get to the linebackers. There were times
they were playing two tight ends. The Cowboys were in
a nickel defense. I need another linebacker up there. I
don't need Ready Stewart, Ready Stewart up there right trying
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to make tackles. And they were just getting blown off
the line of scrimmage. And so if you're going to
have that happen to you, you're going to turn Bryce
Young into a Pro Bowl quarterback. Yes, his quarterback rating
is the second highest of his career, one hundred and
fourteen point whatever. Eight eight I think, yeah, eight three
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touchdowns that that offense doesn't function that way. But they
told you they were going to run the ball, and
you weren't better prepared to stop.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
You know, and I haven't had a chance but to
go through the first part of the first quarter so far. First,
then if you look at the first series shame to
your point on when they had nickel defense out there
where it appeared it was two tight ends on one
of those eighty seven. Bryce and Tremaine is actually a
wide receiver, right, and so I think what their adjustment
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was when eighty seven they had him in their substitutions
as a wide receiver, and so that's when they went nickel.
But he is a bigger wide receiver, and he's kind
of a tweiner between a tight end and a wide receiver.
So that's who and that's that's the point is he
can block. And so they personnel was nickel, but they
were they were using him more as a tight end type,
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more of a bunch formation.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
It just you know, and it just continued and continued
and continued, and nothing was worse than them getting the
ball back in a tie game with six oh seven
to go and they ate the entire clock up.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
To kick a field goal.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Couldn't they couldn't stop them fourth and four? Right?
Speaker 8 (09:01):
Why is Bland playing eight nine yards off the receiver?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
All he had to do is come out of this
outside leverage too.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, all he had to do is come out.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I mean Greg called it at the snap. They're going
to the slot.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Yeah, I could even see that, right, and his first
step was back.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
I can't believe that's.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Where he was supposed to line up. I just can't
believe that that was the defensive call. And so things
like that, and so what happens is when your defense
is playing like that, the offense has to be perfect,
and they weren't perfect. They kicked two field goals inside
the ten yard line.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Can't have that.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
And you guys have heard me say it, more field
goals you kicked the closer your eyre to losing.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Gotta have touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
They left eight points on the field because they couldn't
get into the end zone because they could not run
the football thirty one years, thirty one years thirty one rushing?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Are you kidding me? What happened?
Speaker 8 (10:03):
What happened to that great defensive offensive line? Got two
starters back in right? Maybe they should have had all
four beckups in there, and I don't believe that.
Speaker 7 (10:14):
But yeah, this is when you bring up that really
is a is a sore spot for me, and I
was hoping we brought that up later, but we're going
to start. It's just that that to me, I have
a hard time dealing with that because you know that
guys are smart enough to understand and have situational awareness
to be closer to than that and to at least
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defend to the sticks. And when you don't defend to
the sticks, then you're saying to your you're saying to
the world, you're saying to Bryce Young, I am giving
you this. And it'd be a different thing if Murray,
if his responsibility was underneath and he was lined up
more over to that side, then over to the left,
(10:56):
whatever he's contemplating at that schematically, if you don't want
to give up what you're doing defensively, you're fourth and
four and I'm just saying, cheat over. She just cheat
over some and we can talk about Bland whatever the
defense was.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And I'm yelling time out. I'm yelling call time out.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Don't allow this play to run because everybody that mother
knows where the ball is gonna go. But I just
I feel like that is that's not smart football. But
that's just I'm using the right words. It's just not
smart football when you have guys that have played the
game as long as Bland and Murray have played the
game to allow that to be picked up on a
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quick slant and it.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Was a throw.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
It was a throw by the way that Bryce Young
had to it had to be a laser shot. But
that was the only one, the only option that he had,
and he took the one that you gave him defensively,
and that's that's a hard pill to swallow. And I'm
sure Eva Flus in film study when these guys are
circling this thing up and he's sitting there and he's
saying it to his guys, this can be the way
(12:00):
that we're practicing it. So why do you get out
here and do something completely different than the way that
we're practicing it? Defensive line got wise, Osa Diggi Zua
just some of the gap responsibilities from O Diggiezua and company.
Like guys, he can't be coaching two gap up that way.
He can't be telling guys to blow your assignment and
(12:23):
jump out of a hole and leave a bit gaping
hole behind you because you're getting gashed in the running game.
And as you just guys just said, look, you're getting
beat up up front, and not only are you giving
them the running game, but they passed the ball on
you at will basically and that's what's going to happen
obviously when you're having that kind of success in your
running game.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Well, they tried it with some success.
Speaker 8 (12:46):
They start playing a five man front and it did
bottle things up because they kind of fit in the
gaps a little bit better. But again, if you got
five up there, then you're sacrificing somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
They just don't We've said this before. They don't seem
to play with their eyes. It's like just look watch
recognize you know. They didn't redo their entire offense, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Same one.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
It's not like they were fooling you.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
They basically told you what they were gonna do, and
they did it. And as Dak Prescott said that Rico
got the last.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Laugh, Well a Teto McMillan who.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Hadn't had a touchdown catch yet.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Well he did, he did, he did. He got him too,
He got him too yesterday. But we made that guys
look good. We made Jimmy Horn, the guy that you mentioned,
the other Horn, the other Horn, made him look good
on those gadget plays that he came in on.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
It. It was a it was a mess.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
But you know what, and it was but you still
got to score. They know, they got to score thirty points.
They got to score thirty points or more to win.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Twenty seven, Mickey, in all these years that you've been doing,
is twenty.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Seven on the road.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Oh, that would be great.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
Twenty seven on the road, Mick, Like, you'll take that anywhere.
If I told you, if I told you Friday they
were going to score twenty seven points on the road,
you would have walked out of here and said, we
won that football game.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
Just count up how many points they've given up losing, right.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Twenty four was the fewest.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
Wow scored forty and couldn't win. Wow had a tie,
scored you know, twenty seven, Okay, but no, they gave
up thirty.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
On the fourth and four or fourth and three whatever
it was. Slant to rentfro where we're talking Kenneth Murray
and we're talking Deron Bland. Here in the break, I
want I've got the end zone copy, and so I
want both of you to look at it, and then
we'll discuss on the other side of the break what
(14:58):
we're looking at here. I encourage everyone to look at
the end zone copy on the ALL twenty two to
see the alignment on defense where Murray is lined up,
and but in what formation Carolina has their empty formation?
(15:19):
The gap between where is it Thomas or and whereas
Araku are lining up? And I want to save it
for after the break because I want you all to
look at it so that we're well informed to discuss
what was supposed to happen there. But before that, before that,
(15:40):
the Cowboys had it in their power offensively on their
last position what turned out to be their last possession
of the game. And your credit Carolina for making the
plays to keep, you know, on a four yard loss
on a screen pass to start that possession, and then
there were checkdowns after that because now you're second and
fourteen and then you're what were the third and twenty
(16:02):
or something like that after a six.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yard laws or eight yards twenty two.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah, but it gets back to what you pointed out, Mickey,
is the inability to run the football. The Cowboys should
have been able, even getting the ball with eight minutes left,
to be able to basically do now. They may not
have been able to run off eight minutes of the
clock starting at their own forty five, but they it
was in their power to conceivably do what Carolina did
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to them when they got the ball with six minutes left,
they run the clock all the way down and get
a and the Cowboys had the ability to score a
touchdown with their offense and put the game away offensively.
And so I think when Schottenheimer looks at things he's
and when he's talking after the game about we need
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to be more physical, he's not talking just on defense.
He's talking on offense. And the inability to run the
football came back to bite them in the most critical
point of the game right there.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
And to set that up, they're at the forty six.
They need ten fifteen yards to be in field goal range.
Right now, you don't want a field goal there, you
want to drive down the field.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
They end up losing yards instead of going forward.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
I mean, but if you hand the ball off to
Williams's right, you're okay.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
But they try a bad.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Run, you get one yard, two yards. Now you're second, second,
eight or nine instead of second and fourteen, and you
can do more offensively.
Speaker 8 (17:38):
And they tried to fool them with that rollout and
then throw back.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
To Williams and they had it stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
And it didn't at that point where well they they.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Had basically screams forming on either side where I think
it was. Fillinoy was in motion and he was not
going downfield. He was an outlet on the right side,
and they got penetration. And so I can't remember who
got away from Steel and so Dak was under pressure too,
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but Mark had it snuffed out the right defense.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
To I think at that point.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
At that point, Bill, that defensive line for the Carolina Panthers,
when you're talking about running the ball, A'shawn Robinson showed
up and showed out, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
We local guys, Ashawn Robinson from Marlington Heights and Bobby Brown.
Speaker 7 (18:29):
Yes, they cowboy fans since birth. And I'm assuming that
I don't know, but I know that those guys the
defensive line showed you that they were not going to
allow Javonte Williams to beat you.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
And most we didn't even mention Derek Brown.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
No, imagine that right, And so you're saying, we're gonna
take away one of the things that you guys do,
and that's what most defenses do. We're not gonna allow
you to have everything. We're just gonna try and take
away something. And they were successful at taking away the run,
and my philosophy at that point is George Pickens is
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killing them. Okay, okay, we could talk about what Rico did,
but can we talk about that George Pickens is literally unstoppable.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
All right?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
And I understand sharing this distribution to everybody else, but man,
when the game is on the line, get the ball
into the hands of your guy that you know can
get it done for you.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
There's nothing.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
They had no answer for George Pickens the entire game.
Allow him to eat, move him around, put him in
the slot, put him in motion, do something with him,
do something with him.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
At that point where you throw him the ball.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I'm talking about, when you get to that point, go
to your best player and throw him the ball. Don't
allow it to be you didn't throw it to him.
You didn't throw it to him.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Did they think that?
Speaker 7 (19:52):
I don't know, but I'm saying at that point, it
doesn't matter what they thought. You shoard nine at nine
catches one hundred and sixty eight yards. It didn't matter
what they thought. They couldn't stop it, and so give
them another dose of it.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They might have tripled team them.
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Well, they had better triple team them because they couldn't
stop it. Is what I'm saying, And when you can't
stop it, keep feeding it, because that's exactly what they
did to rico' daddle. Keep giving that man the ball.
I'msa say, I'm gonna keep yelling it.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
What was the biggest play on that outside of the
fourth and three? Okay, on the Carolina drive, The next
play was just as big as the fourth and three
because with the timeout situation, the Cowboys with just two
timeouts left. When Dawdle goes for nine yards, the game
is over.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
First down, right, they own first down?
Speaker 4 (20:42):
The game is over when because now you've got to
spend your timeouts and you don't. So the Renfro catch
came with two minutes left, right, and then is that
first play and they're not their borderline field goal range
at that point? Okay, Carolina, is if you stop Dawdle
on to a reasonable game instead of nine yards, then
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with just two timeouts left, you don't have enough time
to save clock. Yeah, it went second and one. Game
is over at that point.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I believe I packed up my stuff at that mm hmm,
that it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Was time to go head down.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
What end of the game wasn't the fourth and three?
It was the nine yard run on first and ten
that ended the game.
Speaker 7 (21:29):
And you could not we would And I've heard others
talk about this third down, how bad we were on
third down, and how three for eight on third down
is so misleading when you look at the stats, because
they owned us on first and second down.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They owned us.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
I mean, if if Rico Daldle was playing flag football,
we wouldn't have taken the flag off of him, and
first down if passed past five six yards, And that is.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
The most telling thing, is the only head eight third
downs in the game Carolina. Yeah, they didn't get to
third down.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
It's just it's one of those games.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
And I never like to see a game where I
come and look at the stat sheet and Dak has
thrown the ball for forty forty five times.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
But this would have been that game.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
If I'd come into any game where Dak should have,
you know, thrown thirty for forty thirty for forty five,
I would have liked to come back and look at
that stat sheet because look what the Carolina Panthers were
doing with your offensive line. They were owning you, and
where Dak had opportunity to get out, step up in
the pocket, things like there are a few and far
(22:38):
in between. But I tell you what he did do.
He made opportunities happen down the field, and he again
Dak Prescott lights out, and he's gonna have one of
those games. We don't know when it's gonna come, but
he's gonna have a game. He's not gonna be on.
And God bless us all when that happens, because I
know our defense at this point, manhatn't proven that they
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could stop anybody.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
All right, I'm going to show y'all the end zone
copy on that fourth and three play, and we'll come
back and talk about that and more on this run
defense and what the Cowboys might have been able to
do differently to at least manage the run game a
little bit better defensively when we come back in just
(23:23):
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Speaker 4 (25:56):
All right, real quick, we don't need to dwell on it.
But on this fourth four play, the slant to Renfro,
we were looking at the end zone copy and that
gives you the proper perspective on the spacing on the
defensive line and the linebackers and so forth. And basically,
just in a nutshell, what you had here the alignment
(26:17):
that the Cowboys had defensively whatever game that they were
running to try to get to the quarterback. On that play,
you've got three defensive linemen to let's this is from
the Cowboys perspective to the right side of the hash
mark on the right side, okay, and you had Azeraku,
who was the lone defensive lineman on the left side.
(26:39):
He was on the hash mark on the other side.
So Murray is in the gap between It looks like
Solomon Thomas and Aseraku, which is basically if you just
picture the hash marks, okay, You've got no defender, no
defensive line between the hash marks, and so Murray is
the guy that is is the one defender that is
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in that spot. Carolina is running an empty backfield right there.
You have to have a defender there to guard against
the quarterback draw because you got three offensive linemen between
those hash marks. And so that's why Murray was situated
where he was. In the alignment that the Cowboys had.
They Blands playing off on the slot Carolina's left side
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of their offense. He's in the slot, he's playing off
and so is easy pickings for Renfro to run the
slant and get the throw, and Murray didn't have time
to get over and get back to defend it. They
could have run the Legett is lined up in the
slot to the right side with the Cowboy defender with
outside leverage on him. If he runs a slant, Murray's
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in great position to defend that.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
So but Murray's responsibility was clearly the other side because
that's where he goes as soon as the ball is snaw.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
I think he read that.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Okay, he's not coming on, he's throwing, and so he
got there. He's breeding the quarterback's eyes and that's where
he's going. There's time to get there.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
There's no way he if he was that far over
to the left or the offense is right, there's no
way that he would have gotten there in time anyway.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Which is why got to play.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
And then based off of that alignment that you just shown,
even if they decided to go with a quarterback sneak,
they still would have picked up the four yards because
of the space between him and the next defender.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Right, there's no way.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
I mean, they got a space between the back of
that wall into mix shots that they would.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Have had to free offensive lineman to block Murray. They
could have run the quarterback draw.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
There wasn't another linebacker out there was there.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
I've got to look. Let me back up to see where.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
You got to widden your angle to find the next linebacker.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
The angle here, yeah, I can't get it up.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
But either way, man, that's that's one of the they
caught you. They caught you, and they could have obviously
still Bryce Young had this option to either throwing the
slant to the get or throwing the slant to imminently
who would end up going to.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
So what you had Marquise Bell out there. Bell was
out Bell was out there. They had trips right, and
then two receivers to the left, and you had Digs
and maybe maybe Steward. No, that's Bland. That's Digs and
Bland were Diggs had the slot guy right. Diggs has
(29:28):
the outside receiver on the left side. Bland had the slot.
That's what I meant, right, And then on the other
side he had three DB's on the left side. And
you had one year playing a he was in Chapel
Hill save trade.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
So while I mean, seriously, they got far back his
other open screen.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
He's nineteen yards off the line of scrimmage. He's at
the twenty one yard line on fourth and why oh my, yes,
it literally Chapel Hill. I mean seriously, the ball is
just inside the forty and I believe it's Wan Yer
whoever the deep safety is. It's single high the deep
(30:18):
safety is at the twenty one yard line, nineteen yards
off the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
So they were gambling that they were going to go
for it all.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
So do we think do we think that that the
coach lined them up there? That's what we don't know
exactly right. It reminds me of I remember this is
going back when Roy Williams was playing safety for the Cowboys.
It reminds me I think it was a game against
San Francisco, and basically it was a fourth and two
(30:48):
or a third and two situation where clearly they end
the game if they get a first down. They were
in their own end of the field third and two,
and Roy is playing twenty yards back in the secondary.
I mean, there's no and it's like three tight ends.
It's a bunch formation, and he's playing twenty yards back safety.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
And that's what Hey, that's why Bill I was screaming
time out, time out.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
The alignment is all wrong cause, as.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
It turned out, you didn't have enough timeouts anyway. If
they get the if they get the first out, you've
already burned wal You've already burned walk.
Speaker 7 (31:24):
So you're gonna I mean, and here's the thing, I mean,
this is the one catch he made was the one
to just pretty much ended all Hunter refro. One catch
for seven yards. That's literally all he needed.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Okay, So what did you guys think of the interference
call on third and seven? Oh, on Kyrie at the
seventeen yard lineep, Yeah, that.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Guy was falling. Look, it's like even Olsen said it,
it's like.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
Quarter yeah, arguing flags in the NFL. It's just this
that this man and I looked, I saw another interference
with Diggs. It was Diggs and Ready Stewart. They both
committed it at the same time.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
So I mean that that was obvious. That was obvious,
and this and the question on that was there there
was a defensive hold on Steward. And remember the officials
got together, and I would imagine their conversation was was
digs hold? Was it was a ball in the air?
Was it a past interference rather than a hold?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And I think they called both of them. I mean
basically you couldn't miss both of them, and they just
determined the ball wasn't in the air on the Digs one,
and so they called it on Stewart.
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Yeah, the one on Kyrie, Alam, I really looked. I
didn't think it was as egregious as any of the
other ones that I've seen.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I thought that was a hard one to call.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
But but even then, okay, all right, so they got
the call. Now it's first down at the twenty nine
yard line, and what happens on first at the twenty
nine yard line. Rico goes for nine yards. So twice
on that drive. Rico goes for nine yards on first
down there, and then after they converted the third and
(33:12):
one with the with the rollout and passed to Tremble,
Rico goes for four yards on first down, three yards
and okay, then they on the renfro what we talked
about before, first and ten at the thirty three yard line. Yeah,
Rico goes for nine. Game over. Yeah, and the game
started that way too, and it ended that to the
(33:34):
first drive of the game, which gets me to ask
this question. Okay, first play of the game, Rico goes
for nine yards. Then it's the the uh pass to
the tight end for twenty one, the rookie tight end
Mitchell elevens, and then Rico goes for twelve.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Okay, no one touched him and they had six.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
They Cowboys started Marshawn Neeland at defensive end. He played
twenty snaps in the game. He missed last week with
an injury. He's got an ankle injury. And here's my question,
And so I feel for Marshawn Neelan because he was
limited in practice throughout the week. I had a question
whether he was even going to play just because of that. Okay,
(34:18):
he was. He didn't sit out any practice, but he
did miss last week's game. And so how many defensive
ends are on this roster? Who is the best run
defending defensive end on this Rosterlan Neeland is, So he
starts the game at defensive end, no One. They're going
to run the ball. It was obvious from the first
(34:40):
play of the game, Dowdle's nine yard run, which they
ran right at Nielan. And then on his second play
he's on skates as Tremble is the tight ends blocking him.
And I just feel for Kneelan that he's in this
position because clearly he cannot plant and defend the run
(35:02):
like he normally does.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
But you do not.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
This team misses DeMarcus Lawrence so much d law throughout
his career here, and it's a It's an unselfish thing
as a defensive end to defend the run because you
want sacks is what makes you money in this league.
And to de Law's credit, throughout his career, he was
(35:28):
a baller as far as defending the run. And the
Cowboys just don't have defensive ends. I think, as a rock,
who's going to get there? And I think that they
saw that on his tape at Boston College that he
can have that, but he's not there yet at his size.
But that's what this team I think is missing big time.
And the other part of it is there's such a
(35:48):
mindset and Micah had this mindset going after the quarterbacks
so much. You're crashing so much. What about setting the
edge on defense? Yep, it's not happening.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
And if you go back and look at those runs
up the middle, they were double teaming both tacks.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Exactly, and they double team at both tackles to the
point where they're driving them back into the linebackers.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
They're going, yeah, that's right, yep.
Speaker 8 (36:12):
And they said we can single block these defensive vents
file and a lot.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
Of times the defensive end's taking them out. They're blocking
them with wide receivers yeah, probably because the defensive end
is taking them. Sam Williams on It was on Dadle's
eight yard run at the twenty one yard line. Sam's
crashing and he almost got to the quarterback, but the
quarterback didn't have at all. Right, Rico's got the ball
and it was Legett who was supposedly blocking Williams, but
(36:41):
Sam he crashed and I was he coached to do that?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
The problem I have with that is they didn't start
that in that final drive. They did that for four
quarter and they that they pulled that off over and
over again, and at some point an adjustment has to
be made. I agree with you about Marcia and Neelan,
and I agree with you what you're saying about DeMarcus Lawrence,
but he ain't coming back through that right and even.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I'm not and I'm not saying because he's hurt right
now in Seattle at his age, I'm not saying that
they needed to re sign the DeMarcus Lawrence. But that
is what they're missing on this defensive line.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I think.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
And and Donovan as a Roco too, is to like
you said, a young guy that you see those flashes
of him being able to step up and stop the run.
But your linebacker and play linebacker play right now, is
is way below average.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Shamar is getting a lot of tackles.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
But he's getting a lot of tackles.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Twelve yards downfield.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
You know called tackling guys is wallet.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Not Rico's the play. I was talking about Rico's twelve
yard run or where tremble block Kneelan, Yeah, put him
on skates and uh, Chamar, it was a little counter
Dalbold had one step to the right. Well, Chamar went
to his left and then he's got to work through
(38:01):
the trash to get over He He probably got credited
with a tackle, but it was twelve yards downfield and
you're got a rookie line Brookie, it was one year
old linebacker.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
It was so bad.
Speaker 8 (38:12):
I don't think I even went to look at the
defensive stats after the game.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
No, No, I just did.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Now.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
He had eleven tackles. Eleven tackles, Murray had seven, seven,
Wilson had.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Somebody's got to make the tackle.
Speaker 8 (38:27):
Stop me when I get to a defensive lineman. Wilson
had six, Stewart had five, Leah File had four, a
while Sam Williams had four.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And James Houston actually had three or four tackles.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
And Houston only Houston had four. Okay, but the guy
that did something was Lea File.
Speaker 8 (38:51):
He had four tackles, one sack, one tackle for loss,
and one quarterback hit. They only hit the quarterback five times. Yeah,
one sack five times.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
That's because they kept handing off and we thought they
had it fixed because they sacked the Jets five times. Yeah, no,
this is well, here's the other thing that we haven't
mentioned as far as the run defense. There's a first
round draft pick from two years ago that was inactive. Well, oh, Mazi, Yeah,
(39:26):
Mazzi was inactive, and so Joe, you've got the seventh
round rookie taking his spot.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And Toya didn't. That's why he didn't have his best game.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
He was getting He couldn't deal with the double teams. Well,
he couldn't hold the ground.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
That's that's I guess, Mickey.
Speaker 7 (39:44):
That's where I am with this defense, because I think
a guy like Toya his entire career, he's been double team.
No one's been trying to single block any of these guys.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
But he was a seventh round Now.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
I understand I'm just saying what you're used to going
up against, what you're used to seeing the thing for.
You know, number ninety seven you got. These are guys
Osadiggie Zoo. They're used to seeing that. And here's the
other part about it is Kenny Clark. We are asking
Kenny Clark, just like we're asking Dak to be on
his A game each in every game, and he's trying
(40:17):
to hold it in the road. But he can't do
it by himself. He can't, I mean, especially if it's
all going the hell in the handbasket.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Around him and he's getting doubled triple, both of them
are getting doubled inside.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
But you're looking at the alignment.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
We just saw the alignment that had one linebacker with
three linemen in front of them.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I mean, that's never gonna work.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
That's never gonna work if you if you're asking Kenneth
Murray to take that on, he ain't that good.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
Whether I think on that one, I think they were
clearly they're running a game to try to get this is.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Gonna stunt back into the whole some kind.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Of way, right, And they didn't feel like Young was
gonna run a quarterback draw ye know that size.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
I guess that's a perfect time to gamble.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
But you gambled wrong either way, because he's still completes
a seven yard passed to Hunter Renfro. Again, I don't
know what Duran Bland is thinking on that play. I
don't know why he would be set up so far
to the outside on the play like that when he
knows that they only have to go four yards to
get to the sticks? Why not set up at the sticks?
And I would think, would you think that Deron Bland
(41:22):
is a better zone or man cover which one? I mean,
I've always thought of him, and I always think of
him like Digs, You know, both of those guys. I
think they're better in short spaces than they are off
the ball.
Speaker 8 (41:35):
And well they they weren't in zone on that he
knew that was his guy.
Speaker 7 (41:43):
I'm just saying, when you're eight yards off the ball,
doesn't matter what you're in.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Well, did Bland think the safety was maybe ten yards
downfield instead of twenty yards downfield? I mean it would
have helped if the safe he lines up at the
thirty instead of the twenty one.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
Right right right, And again, Mickey, I only bring that
up to say be closer to the line.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Of But you don't know what he was told to do.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Okay, it is fourth and fourth, but.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
To that point, like he's got outside leverage on the slot,
and maybe he thought that the safety was playing up
at the ten yards off the line of scribbage instead
of twenty yards off and he's got help across the metal.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
See, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
And there's a case to be careful what you hurt
wish for. Hooker's not in there now and everybody's on him, right,
he's not in there.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Fourth and four.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
You're playing backups, free release. You're playing backups and a slant.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
That's the easiest throw for the quarterback to pick up
four yards if that's what he's going for, and you're
already eight eight yards.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Nine yards on the ound.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Here's the other day.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
We got to go to break.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
As we talked about, there are three defensive linemen up
to that side of the field. That means you got
six hands there. That a five to ten quarterbas quarterbacks,
anybody got their hands five to eleven quarterback has to
throw through six hands.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Let me hit it.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Yeah, come on, now here we go. Anybody get their
hands up.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Nobody, No nobody got their hands up.
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Speaker 4 (45:45):
All Right, we just got like a couple minutes out here,
so make you.
Speaker 8 (45:48):
Think we need to put some perspective on the loss.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
Okay, let's do that.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
So we talked on Friday about the Eagles getting beat,
and nobody had fewer laws is in the NFC East,
then the Cowboys two losses. Everybody had two or more losses, right,
and now you.
Speaker 5 (46:11):
Down your leg and now you lose.
Speaker 8 (46:13):
When you have an opportunity to be right in the race,
right going up against a two and three team.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
And you're just a half game ahead of the Giants now,
ahead of the Giants now, and that loss really gives perspective.
Speaker 8 (46:29):
And I set it on Friday that this was going
to be a test to see where the Cowboys are.
All right, they were on somewhat of a role with
a tie a win. You win this game, you get
to three to two and one, and you're feeling good
about yourself, and you get beat and not just get beat,
you got beat beat. And this one's gonna hurt, and
(46:52):
it's going to take a lot to recover on Sunday
against Washington, which plays tonight. Correct, and it's almost like, Okay,
you're starting to get close to fading if you don't
recover and win a game.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
You got Washington Sunday and then the following Sunday at Denver.
Speaker 8 (47:13):
At Denver, and then is it Arizona on a Monday
night game.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Monday night game, so yeah, it's almost.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
And then a Monday night game against Vegas after bye week.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
I saw something Friday I thought was pretty clever at
a high school game. Every time the opposing team got
a penalty and they backed them up, I heard this
beeping go on, and I was looking behind me in
the stands because I was way up the time.
Speaker 5 (47:38):
I go, why is that truck out there? No, they
were playing the beat beat beep as the truck.
Speaker 8 (47:44):
Was backed up when they were were walking off the penalty,
and I said, oh, that's brilliant, right, And it made
me think the Cowboys right now, there's a beat beat
beep going on right now, backing up.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
They're backing up.
Speaker 7 (48:00):
Look, it's as bad as you can't count it twice.
But that's a bad one right there. For the film,
for everything, for Morale talked about moments and momentum. We
lost our moment and the momentum was snatched right out
of our mouth.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Okay, the.
Speaker 8 (48:15):
Two of the three losses in a tie, we're all
bad moments, right. They had an opportunity and every one
of those to win, yep, and they didn't make the play.
Speaker 4 (48:26):
Okay, When the schedule came out. You got Washington at
home and then at Denver. What did you expect the
Cowboys to do in those two games? Two and oh
one and one or zero and two oh and these
two these next two games coming up one, So that
now what you have to do to make up for
Carolina yesterday you got to go to and you gotta
go to and oh yep, and that makes up for Carolina.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
Right, that's a large ass.
Speaker 8 (48:54):
When you expect the worst, you get their best. And
when you expect the best, you get their worst. And
that has five hundred sitting all over.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
So I'm expecting the worst the next two weeks.
Speaker 7 (49:06):
Shout out to Ricodollo. Shoutout to Rico Doll. I can't
say enough about the job he did yesterday. And by
the way, I mean he was here. I never seen
him perform like that. When he was here, I'm like,
who is this guy?
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Who is the guy?
Speaker 5 (49:18):
I didn't have holes like that?
Speaker 2 (49:19):
But he'd have thirty? Did he have a thirty carry game?
The whole time he was.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Carry?
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Who is this guy?
Speaker 8 (49:30):
But you know what, afterwards he was on national TV
and he was polite. He gave credit to his offensive line,
and he didn't. They were trying to get him to
talk about the buckle up.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
And he never that's because he's a free agent.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
He didn't mention it.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Right, he's a free agent after this year, and he's
getting a one year deal with.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
He's getting he's getting close to hitting all his incentives.
Speaker 7 (49:51):
Look at this guy's incentives, by the way, I looked
at a bunch of half a million dollar incentives that he's.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Going to reach.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
He didn't have a lot of incentives.
Speaker 4 (49:59):
Tell you to Okay, all right, we don't have time
to get into the contract. So all right, how about
we do it again tomorrow, and how about we do
it with a Pro Bowl cornerback in our midst to
get his take.
Speaker 5 (50:11):
Are we going to give him his opportunity or passing over?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
No?
Speaker 4 (50:15):
No, he gets you the opportunity tomorrow. Ever, sna be
back tomorrow and we'll shout at you at noon on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Go Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
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