December 8, 2025 • 50 mins
The guys cover so many topics with so much football taking place from Thursday night in Detroit to all day Sunday, starting with Boots & Jeans, to the Eagles playing Monday night, the NFL standings and wildcard complications, to injuries, young guys like Nate Thomas and Shavon Revel and kickoff coverage problems.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. This is Mick shot
streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com and the official Dallas
Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, heckma Harrison, Everson Walls,
(00:24):
and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're flying, get it up there, Look you're there.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
These boots were made for a walk again.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, heck Maharrison with new boots.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes, my first pair, really spare of boots.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You get it from a Texas Tech red raider in
town this week.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I did not I did.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Not boots for the first nine in years on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Got it across the street from Luke Casey. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
And man, these things like wearing house shoes. Man, I'm
mad at everybody. It's like, you know, it's like the
people that don't tell you about Christ and you be
mad mad at them. You know, it's like, why didn't
you tell me about Salvation? You know, I've been destroying
my feet all these years?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What kind of you got there?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Casey, don't make it do that. It's a damn shame.
What happened to that?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Gat you at the bottom of them they're worn out.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, telling you because you can't get the come on
the park with fall down. He's been on the paper.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
You take your coat off and stale.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wise man, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
They can't even see the that's the shame in this
show that you can't shoot.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You can't see the shoe game that I come in
here with it and a half miles this morning in
those boots.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Hey, listen, these things like when I'm telling you like
wearing their house shoes, you guys owe some boots. And
you never just walked up to me and said, he
you need a pair of boots.
Speaker 8 (02:10):
But you know, you know I never owned any.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I used to and I lived in Lubbook. I wore
boots every day, went in Rome.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They just read regular leather boots though right.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Now I had some caseyes actually okay, yeah, okay, hey.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
They see ostrich skin.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know I cannot see you instri No, I cannot
see Bill. That's what I'm saying. I cannot see you
wasted all this time knowing.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Me and my jeans that I used to wear and
used to have the Copenhagen in the back whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Bill symbol tell us. But these boots, man, give you
a couple of inches.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Too late to worry about that, I would say up,
but it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Alone was yeah, so good. All right.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
By the way, speaking to jeans, I had to put
jeans on too, and don't. I don't wear jeans anymore.
And well the reason, well, I wear them occasionally. Whatever,
it's just more comfortable, wear warm up. Why do I
need to wear jeans? But the problem is is the phone.
What do you do with the phone with your jeans?
You know, you used to be you had a clip
on or whatever back in the day or whatever, and
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or you put them in your back I feel I
feel like if I put in my back pocket, I'll
sit on it and break the phone.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Don't put it in your front pocket.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's too tight.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He has no slimming jeans. I'm like, that's just wears.
It's my phone. Yeah, I got slim off.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I don't want the old man jeans.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Wranglers go with you don't want the mom and dad jeans?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Exactly right?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
He cannot win mind, no, you talk about uncomfortable walk.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
All right?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All right, well, you know what, this is a very
big day for Dallas Cowboys football.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Right, that is right?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That is right?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And why is that Mickey, you're gonna answer my question.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Because the Eagles have to play tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
This is the biggest right now. It's the biggest day
of this season because the Los Angeles Chargers need to
win this football game tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They play Eagles.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They're playing at Sofi Stadium in LA.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So you're saying, we're all Charges fans tonight.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You gotta be Chargers. Here are the numbers. I'll throw
some numbers at you. Four and these are your lottery numbers.
Four and three, three and four or two and five.
Those are the numbers you need to remember. Cowboys have
to win four games and the Eagles lose three, or
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the Cowboys win three games and the Eagles lose four,
or the Cowboys win two games.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Eagles have to lose all five rests.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So the Eagles are they are? They are? They are?
Only that's the page.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That's the path.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I mean, technically, mathematically, there is a path wild card.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What but when you've got.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The three teams in the lead in the wild card
race right now have three more wins than you do,
and there's only four more games to play, and so
there's not so and there's eight teams with better records
than you and the other division but.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Four of them.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
There's five teams that are non division leaders right now
that have better records.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And that's the ones that I was looking at.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
There's three wild card but two of those that of
the five they beat you.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Yeah, but the tie, how does that I break?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Except for the tie? It can?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I mean, for instance, the Lions. Okay, it's a great example.
The Lions just beat you on Thursday. However, because of
that tie, the Cowboys have the Lion. If the Cowboys
went out, the Lions have to win three of their
last four games to it to beat you out of
the playoff spot. The problem is the Lions aren't the
ones you're really chasing. You got others ahead of them
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in the wild card race, so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Got their own problems.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Let me explain it to you.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Is that lucky bubbles or whatever that know, that's a
different thing.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
So Chicago's not in the division lead. They're nine and four,
they're a half game behind the Packers. Detroit's eight and five.
They got a better record than you do. Seattle's ten
and three. They're technically in second place behind the ten
and three Rams in San Francisco's nine and four and.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
The bottom line on that all those teams he just mentioned, Okay,
if the Cowboys went out, they get to ten wins.
So those teams with the nine wins and the ten wins,
they just have to get to eleven to beat you.
So that meaning that they have to win one or
two games out of their last four to wind up
with eleven wins.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
So just look at the lost column, no doubt, because
that half will help you when looking at the lost
come and.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That's kind of what gives us the advantage is that, yeah, it.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Got a half a win, a lost half a win,
So they got a lot.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
Of work to do.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
But it's the Eagles is the path and it needs
to start tonight with the Chargers beating the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Do you guys believe that I've heard shoddy this just
this morning in his oppress or say that you know,
I'm not not you know, clock watching or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
In a way, wouldn't you think he has to?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I mean, I know this coaches speak, but at the
same time, possibly getting into the postseason, you're watching everything.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Well, he's a play caller as well as the head coach.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I mean he got bigger issues to deal with.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
He's got too much, especially early in the week, he's
got too.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Much stuff to do to get ready to put a game.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm talking about foot tonight, I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Talking to Yeah, he's got he's got game plan that
he's got to install and it's all got to be
in place when the team comes back on Wednesday. And
so he's just wasting time if he's watching a football
game tonight.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Or are wasting emotions. I don't think you want to
get emotionally involved in watching somebody else, right because.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
It might now it is a team the Chargers, that
what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now, the one thing that he might sneak a peek
at is not the Eagles because he's done playing with them,
but he does play the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Next point exactly, So that would be exes.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And so that would be a reason to watch more
so than who's going to win the game.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But it's no way you can watch the game and say, Okay,
I'm just going to concentrate on how we're going to
attack the Chargers when they playoffs versus what they're doing
with the Eagles tonight, and not think about the implications
of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's impossible, which is why you might want to keep
your mind off it so that you can focus on
your job, which is to put that game.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's tough, tough, that's tough. I mean, you can say,
but it's not. It wouldn't be true. It wouldn't be true.
I mean, you're gonna you're human, we all are. We're
going to be looking at this game like.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, but the uh as, you know, coaches have tunnel
vision when they're I mean, they don't even know what's going.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
On outside these these walls as.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
They go about their business through the week because they
got they got to be focused.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They got so much stuff.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Especially as a head coach, there's so much stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Going on that we don't even know about that's going
on with players.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And that's why I'd say this, you have to come apartmentalize.
He's still going to have, of course, the emotions of
looking at the game, but coaches are good, they're come apartmentalize.
So he will do that regardless of what happens tonight
in the game.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
What about the players.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
The player is gonna be on the players are going
to be emotional. Yeah, we're going to be emotional if
you watch.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, like in eighty four when you knew I watched everything.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You watch everything. I probably watch it with my boys.
We might have been at Tony Mooma's or something watching
the game.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, I know it's emotionally charged. And that's why I
bring it up. There's no way nowhere in hell at
this point in December. And not only that, you know,
look the playoff implications. Every time I see that thing
come up and it says like these are the division
in the hunt and then those at the bottom come on, man,
they'll tell me they're not watching that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Hell, yeah, you're looking at it. It's okay for the
players to watch. That's what they need to do. They
need to watch.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
But what a difference a month of football makes. I mean,
coming off of the Arizona Cardinals loss, it was completely downhill,
and then these last four games, you know what. I
don't know if we talked about it per se on
this show about that the toughest span of the season,
but that was a lot of what people were talking about.
When you once you get to the Eagles, the Chiefs
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and the Lions, what were.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The Cowboys going to do?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
And you only lost one of those that Detroit obviously
the Detroit game. It still didn't make it any better
for where you where you're out look for the rest
of the season. But man, that is probably the silver
lining as you go back through this season to see
what that stretch, what you were able to able to
do doing that time period.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I think go ahead.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
I was going to say, if you think about it,
coming out of the bye, you saw what was coming
up right through Thanksgiving and then the neck because you
didn't get a break. So you sat there and go, well,
if they win three out of four, that would be
pretty good. And they did and it wasn't good right
(11:32):
because they lost the last right, and then it changed
the whole narrative of what you were thinking because I
guarantee you when you were looking at the first three,
the Raiders, the Eagles, the Chiefs, You're going, okay, you
get two of these three, that would be good. What
you got all three of them? Then you start going, well,
how about three out of four?
Speaker 8 (11:51):
So you said we got greedy, Well, yeah, it was
spoiled leading.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Up to it is what we disappointed ourselves though. Yeah,
leading up to all of that, I mean, we should
have done.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Lost to Arizona was awful, just and not.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Just that one. I mean, as we look at the
time the Chicago loss, we looked at that as.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Yeah, but at least they got nine one.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
They're doing better. They're doing better so that the loss
was not as bad. But along the way and the Carolina.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Game, Carolina, they're not for Carolina, but just thinking we
won that game, Arizona ain't tied from nothing nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, So so I remember saying, if we could just
do better before we get to that stretch, we'll be okay.
But we didn't do as well before that, and then
we did even better on the stretch. So doing that stretch.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Especially Arizona, because now they did I just see that
they're mentioning Murray for the rest of the.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, he's been hurt and been hurt and the year.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
That is a that's a contract deal where they don't
want him to get injured in their old money.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
If they move on, they are moving on.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah yeah, So, but the Arizona is tied for something.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
They are tied.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
For the worst records that they are. They are tied
for coach most likely to get fired very soon.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Three and ten.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
That's what kind of see New Orleans is three and
ten Washington's three and New Orleans one.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Let yesterday about that, Yeah, they did well.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
How do you say?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's slow slow shuck shock close shot, shuck, shuck shuck.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
There's no k no, there's not.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
He went to Texas Tech.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
H he wont well, I wanted three schools he went to.
He started at Oregon, then transferred to Tech, and then
wound up at Louisville. So and he just without scorn,
without throwing a touchdown pass, he won. He did run
for two touchdowns. Yesterday they beat Tampa Bay, which is
a team that's floundering right now.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Vegas is two and eleven, Tennessee's two and eleven, and
then who was the other one?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I just said.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
The Giants are two?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So before we next segment, get dived deep into the Cowboys,
your sunday of watching other games and the takeaways that
you that you have.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Nothing from yesterday. Everything is from tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, you're all about tonight. Now all about tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And once again, you guys know where I stand. I mean,
this is all very dramatic, but you know, I hope
they proved me wrong. But I'm the pestimist of the group.
I hope they proved me wrong because once again we
had in our own hands, which is where you always
want to be. And now to not only have to
do something that's pretty tough to do, not impossible, it
(14:48):
was tough to do, meaning win three out of four
or hopefully just go four out of four, and not
not just doing that, you still have to depend on
someone else. That is just a tough way.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And if that someone else doesn't win tonight, they're going
to have to lose three out of their last four
games against the Raiders, two against Washington, won at Buffalo,
and you have to run the table if they don't.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
If the Eagles don't lose tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And you know, those referees are waiting for you.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
By the one one takeaway that I have from last night,
waiting on you the bad calls. Andy Reid's play calling
doesn't work as well when he doesn't have the hawsers
on his team, you know, or ass up front on
the offensive line.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
The offensive line.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Hell, that's you know, Andy's been dealing with that for
years and years.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Well, the thing is, and then you start making decisions
like going forward on fourth and yard, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
The desperate teams, And I think when you think that
Kansas City is one of those desperate teams, desperate four
win at home against the Houston team, that right now, Man, defensively,
I hadn't gotten the opportunity to put my eyes on them,
but the Minko Ryan's has a defense that is incredible.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We talk about Petrie, It all look like giants.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Except for him, except for him, except for that one guy,
but his edges, I mean, and I think also, I
don't know if you guys got an opportunity to watch
that Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And yeah, snow I love snow games.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
That was a damn good game. I mean, raggedy because
of the conditions. But man, you know that nothing is
going to be made of the way that you know
Cincinnati's quarterback has battled back from his injury. But man,
he really did try and come back and save the season.
But Josh Allen, Man, I don't know, every time you
(16:39):
think he's down, every time you think he's he's made
it to a point where he is not that elite.
He just does something to show you, yeah, he's the
man you know he could take. He really does carry
that team on his back when they need it, and
I love seeing football games like that when they play
out with he's the hero.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's just tough on Josh. You know, he's always just
like right there and now here. It is all these
times he's been battling Mahomes and the Chiefs. Now you don't,
I don't think it's going to the Chiefs. Now, what
are we looking at here? What are we looking at
in the AFC? Right?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
New England?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
New England? But I know our.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Two games the Bills in the standing still, So do
they play again? I'm sure they do.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
But do you believe in? Do you believe in New England?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I know that Carcelles says, your schedules, you are what
your schedule says, your record live he quoted that. But
I just there's not a whole bunch of belief in
New England right now. Even at eleven.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, we hadn't seen them, that's the main thing. You
just hadn't seen them, and so they had been on
nationwide TV.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, their schedule has been really soft for my NFL standards.
That's one of the reasons why you haven't seen them as.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
They Well, did you have New England, Jacksonville and Denver
leading the division going into the last month.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So let me say I haven't been waiting on Jacksonville
for quite some time, even Pitts. By the way, Jacksonville
has been the team that has been underachieving for quite
some time. They keep talking about the quarterback and how
he's got to do this and all of that. He's
needed help. He has always needed more help than they
were willing to give him. And finally they came with
(18:17):
a defense that can help compliment this guy's game because
they have a good running game, they have a good
passing game, they have a good defense. And you know,
I want to blame it on someone. I wanted to
play it on the coaching, but maybe this is the guy.
Maybe this coach is the one that can handle this
really young team that you have in a small market.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And by the way, New England hosts Buffalo Sunday, very
good on CBS. New England won at Buffalo first time around.
They're looking parade and.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm sure Josh Allen and that's the thing. Josh Allen
probably threw some interceptions. So you know, Josh is like, man,
I don't want it. No here you take it. No, No,
Mahomes is not in this time. Oh well, okay, maybe
I'll go ahead and take over now.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
And that's a clear pathway for teams like that in
the AFC that have had to contend with Kansas and
now they're falling away.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I have no idea. I have no I mean, coming on,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Did you see the controversial play in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, that's a catch? What are we talking here, guys?
It's a catch, right, it's a cats catch.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Okay, it was a catch a cat until it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Some believe they ruled it a catch. Very What about
the the Aaron Rodgers getting the ball back?
Speaker 8 (19:34):
I missed that.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh man, so did the refs.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I'll tell you what, Tomlin Tumblin has nine lives. I
don't know he got nine lives.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Man. There was another call yesterday. I could see on
the TV that they were short of the first down,
and they marked it a first down, and finally somebody
called upstairs and it wasn't like a ball short of
the first It was a full the yard, right.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I think that was in the Kansas City game. What
was it? Yeah? I believe so.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
I've watched so many I know, right, they all run
together College and Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's just running to see reps just screw up games.
It started with ours.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Hey, Bill, before you go to break, Are you going
to be in Norman next weekend?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm not with next weekend week Friday. Yes, for the playoffs,
I will not be there.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
No, I love them, Okay, I'll have family there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, I mean, I just fixing me.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
If I want a ticket, I'm not paying it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You're not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
No, first one to twenty wins that game, first one
to twenty.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, last time they played it was the first one
to twenty three. O. You won twenty three to twenty
one in Tuscalusa.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
How do you guys feel about these college teams not
going to the ball.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
That's good, good question. How any of them make me?
When you put a committee together.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
You're gonna things are going to get screwed up. Yeah,
committee are making decisions all.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It makes no sense whatsoever?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Well, I mean for me, like I've been reading, uh
this news that's coming out about teams like No to
Dame not going to a bowl game. Uh, even Kansas
State isn't going to uh not going to not going to.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
A ball They stayed because they changed coaches. And I
always stayed the same.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
It's not getting five hundred thousands.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Five hundred thousand for what not to not.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
They are Bowl eligible, but they do not want to go.
The guys they're coaching change guys.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
We went taking them for my freshman year, we went
to the wiser Lock Copper Bowl in Arizona. The best
time of my life. How do you turn that down?
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And now that teams like.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Games can be the best time of your life, because yes,
for a whole week, yes, and probably for most of
the week without a curfew, maybe the day before.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And you get it, per deemn you and the.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Playoff games those are business trips and so it's not
the same deal when you're going to play.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
The Iowa State players voted against it. Iowa State the
nerve they felt, They felt like the kidding me. They
had so many injuries that they couldn't practice.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And they get guys in the transfer portal probably are
planning to go there and they don't win.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's where I think. That's that's how you're ruining football,
the man.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
That is that's how it gets because I'm telling you,
we celebrated off of the wiser Lot Copper Bowl in I.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Bet you anything, they're getting advice and not being Iowa
State players. There aren't as many Iowas State players that
go to the NFL, although I understand there are some
some very good ones. Couple of wide receivers for the
Texans right now are rookies, but they are protecting their
investment in terms of the transfer portal and what they're
going to do next, and they don't want to risk
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an injury in a bowl game.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
That is my biggest My biggest deal was Alabama. No
one pointed.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
They kept saying, well, they shouldn't be for losing the
championship game, right, Well, what about losing to Florida State.
Everybody kept pointing out somebody's bad loss, like Texas bad
loss to Florida Florida. Alabama lost to Florida State.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
If you line up Texas resume with Alabama's resumes, should
be in Texas should be it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yes, absolutely, I'm not going to argue that.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Sorry, it's not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'll pick another time.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I was shocked this week that you know, ESPN puts, okay,
the three teams on the bubble. They're choosing between Alabama,
Notre Dame in Mi Miami well worse Texas Texas. Texas
has the same as three losses, just like Alabama does,
and they're one of their losses was the first game
of the year against the defending national champion, and then
number one rank Ohio State. They've got wins over seventh
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ranked Texas A and m and seventh rank I mean
eighth ranked Oklahoma. And yeah, they do have the bad
loss to Florida, but so but Alabama's got a bad
loss to Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
SAD is not a bad loss in Florida, right, exactly?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not exactly right, I don't care what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, that's not a bad loss. Floyd is they have
dudes on.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Their team, Yes they do, Yeah, so there anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yes, but the fact that for weeks they've got Notre
Dame ranked ahead of Miami, which was wrong because Miami
beat Notre Dame in season, but since then Miami's had
two losses. That's the problem with doing the weekly rankings
every week because you put too much emphasis on what
just happened rather than looking at the full body of
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work and and the weekly rankings. It's a TV show
for ESPN, that's the reason why they have it. There's
a reason that in March Madness, they don't do TV
shows with the with official rankings from the committee published
each week. They just make their decision on selection Sunday.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I heard today that ESPN that show you're talking about,
the ranking show gets a million viewers. You think they
got some basketball game that's gonna get a million viewers
at that time of the year.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
It's appointment television for college football fans. They have a
team right to the top.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Hell I was tuned in. Yeah, he talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
In Kansas State was nowhere to be sound, where to
be found.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I'm complaining about not going to a bowl game.
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Speaker 3 (27:57):
Wait, at man, we need an open during the break,
so you don't.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Let's go to the rundown now unless unless Mickey, you
have something from Shot East press conference you want to share.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I think we should look at maybe the injury report
going into this week and they won't practice today.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
They are doing the hospital visits. By the way, Okay, so.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
CD with his concussion, Schottenheimer said he should be good. Diggs,
who was inactive for the game Thursday, should be good
to go. So I think that they looked at it
and said, hey, let's be realistic. He's practiced two or
three times in the last seven weeks. Probably not going
(28:47):
to send him out there. M h Guyton, We got
to check the next few days. I think he's he's out.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I haven't, I haven't, and I haven't seen him do
anything right, so I would imagine that he's not ready
to go. And nobody asked about Clowney.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I think he was asked about in general.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think the question was give us an update on Diggs, Clowney, geit.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
And he never got ever gotten around to Clowny.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Because Clowney my understanding, and I watched him work out
before the game, and they had, you know, the little
committee there looking watching how well he did the stuff
that Britt was putting him through, and he looked like
he was doing pretty good, and he looked like he
was trying to talk his way in. But I think
with the hamstring, they decided, you know what, we can
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get ten days more with this, let's not do anything
to jeopardize him making it worse, and now he's going
to miss two or three games him.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Yeah, they did, and I.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Think at the point where he should be good to go,
and it's.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Gotten to the point now where you're not saving guys.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Right, they got to play because you don't you can't
afford to say, well, in three weeks, who you know, No,
you got to go. So I think I think he
was close enough that they could have played him if
they decided not to worry about the long term effect
of that of that injury. So so I think those
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were really the only guys that I remember.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
That would have had something.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Although I'm sure Dak was pretty sore when he woke
woke up the next morning. God, yeah, and he still
threw for three hundred and seventy six yards.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And what was the word Schottenheimer described on Nate Thomas
the review of Nate Thomas Play.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Rough It was it was, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
He looked like he was had some miss shoes on.
I mean they were going around him so fast.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Well, and he explained, he did explain it. He basically
pointed out that he wasn't staying his sets, he wasn't
staying square. He was too aggressive, it is, and he
was turning like you're on the left. Well, you can't
turn to the left because now you shorten the edge
to go around.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You got to stay here.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
You're a three hundred you're a wide body, three hundred
and thirty pounds man just hold your position. And he
was too aggressive and reacting to a move and it opens.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Up a lane.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
He overreacted.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, right, And he's really athletic.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
I was watching when they were going through their warm
ups the other day last week, and you know how
they go through those step things. He can really run,
and he can his f is quick, really good quick
for it, right, And I was saying, Oh, that's pretty
good for somebody that's three hundred and thirty pounds or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
When you have a player like that that's having a problem,
it's it's up here. It's up here that his technique
could have been better. But the way I saw him
being beaten on the outside, he was hesitating too much.
It's like he was waiting on another move under I'm
waiting for a stunt.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Move, like they were going to come in.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, and and the man just kept going around to
the outside. You know. Eventually, I just think he was overwhelmed.
I think he was overwhelmed by the moment. It had
nothing to do with his talent, because he is way
talented than what I saw in the game.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Second start in the NFL, you know, didn't play all last.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Year, and no, and we act like he's there's not
another guy out there that's trying to beat his head
in I rel T and Aq Muhammad had plays for
him and they used that to their advantage. And oh,
by the way, this Viking squad they gonna come. He's
gonna have to be better. So we talk about the
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technique and all those things. He has to be better
in this game. There's no time there's no time off.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
So if if it's in his head, he better get
it out there, he better get it out you know.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He's really basically, even just from an experienced standpoint, he's
a lot like where Geiton was a year ago. And
yet Geyiton in college had played against big time opponents
okay at the level that he played at compared to Louisiana, Okay,
on a consistent basis.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And we saw the struggles.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
That Geydon had as a rookie and the improvements that
he's made over the last year.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
And if there's one difference, Bill I would say just
the fight from it seemed like Nate Thomas has a
little bit more fight than Geydon had in his rookie season.
Do you talk about being overwhelmed by the competition. I
thought I saw that a lot from Tyler Guidon. It
just like he fish out of water. I don't have
that feeling about Nate Thomps. It just feels like he
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got beat. You know, your technique can be better. You
clean that up. You're there.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You don't think he's good enough.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
No, he's thinking the opposite of this. He's thinking that
he's Yeah, I think he is.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You know, I was looking forward to sing to sing better.
But as I look at as I looked at Detroit game,
you know a lot of people are kind of blowing
it off as oh well, but yeah, I thought that
that game up until a certain point, it's exactly what
the Cowboys expected. It was going to be a tough game.
You knew you were going to have to win on
(34:10):
guts alone, on a lot of that now once again,
and that's this is just me harping on the the
the offensive passing fence call, which is that's probably one
of the worst calls of the season to me as
far as I'm concerned. But though, you know, putting that aside,
the Cowboys were on pace to make this game one
of the more exciting games that I've seen, uh this season.
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That's because we were the comeback was there. H even
though we couldn't stop anyone, I was still looking forward
to maybe that happening and giving the Cowboys another chance.
But then, of course, when they had the bad calls
and the interception, then that that took everything down, and
you scored thirty points, and.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And and somebody pointed out to me about this.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
They were going to score more.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
Yeah, they were going to destroy defense. I go, you
what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Were hundred yards four hundred totally yards?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You knew they were coming. You knew they were coming.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Free seventy six after getting hit all day long, you
knew this game was gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You it was to me, it was lining up just
the way it was supposed to line up. But then
the referees getting away, and then with.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Three forty two to go, it's thirty seven thirty There
you go.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Then it you should have been thirty seven thirty four.
That's on the verge of being thirty seven if you get,
if you don't get.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That's what that call. I thought that the Cowboys played
the way, to me, that's the best they can expect
to play. The defense should have done better, Yes, but man,
those guys over in Detroit, they're getting paid too, and
this is a desperate game for them.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So were those fans It was louder, Oh well, because
they needed it right.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Desperation was throughout the entire stadium. You can feel that
on TV. So just watching that and seeing how well
we played, I thought we played well. I've seen teams
great defenses. We talked about great defense, the Cowboys have
had great like this. I've seen great defenses get taken
to the to the to the to the shed, as
they say, and our defense is still good. But they
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were taken to the shed in this game because you
played against a championship ball club and the.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
And the other issue defensively is not taking anything away
from the defense need to be better. When you let
them start their drives at the forty the average forty
one yard line, especially where they can go run or pass,
and the four down territory.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We had an excuse, We had all kinds of excuses
to get blown out in this game, but we did.
We would not we would not give.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
In Everson as a as a guy that excelled in
his rookie season, savone revel and we heard shoddy talk
about it today that savone Revel wants to play nose
to nose.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
That's his that's his MO.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
He's not going to change who he is now from
your evaluation in that game, and you see him getting
beat the way that he did, do you think that
he needs to change his outlook? Maybe, hey, you're nursing
the knee, you're coming back. This is you know, first
couple of games in the NFL. You know, hey, maybe
back off a little bit when that is in his MO.
If they want to back off, then they shouldn't put
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him in there. And so if he's going to continue
to play the way he likes to.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Play, and he basically said when he talked about it,
he didn't say we were going to make him back off, right,
you know, he goes And that's a good trait because
normally a young guy that gets beat like that, next
time it's like, well, let me just.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Step because the challenge doesn't get any easy because you
got justin Jefferson, it's a damn good test for you.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
We had a guy here, he's in Chicago right now.
He's second in the league interceptions, all right, and so
don't tell me that a player can't make plays. Okay,
I don't care who he's going against. I don't care
who he's going against. Eventually, you have to do what
is in your strength, all right, Whatever you're good at,
(38:02):
you got to bring that to the table. And this
kid is good at one on one, but he's also
good at playing the ball.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
So go back to the possession.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Back to what he Seven of the twelve possessions started
at either beyond their forty yard line.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Seven of the twelve.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
So what you said, special teams and he mentioned it today.
You know, they got to be better. He also said
something about how do you get better? And it's like, well,
do your assignments and we're going to look at the personnel.
So you know, I told the guys on the fan today,
I said, if you got Darren Woodson and you need
to put him out there on kickoff coverage, put his
(38:43):
butt out there, right.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Can we talk about how Dan Camble did the hell
of a coaching job too. It was a hell of
a coaching job in that game. He brought it to us,
We answered, we answered, but he kept bringing it when
we kept answering, and he kept bringing it.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Some guy named Tom Kennedy was running back kickoffs forty yards.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Seriously, well that helped.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I mean, you gotta give special team coaches credit as well.
They came with everything that they had. They they came
with every fast they came because of that desperation depicted that.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
We actually talked to c. J.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Goodwin about it, about the coverage and guys, you know,
doing their deal or whatever, and I said, well, I said,
you're probably not going to agree with this. I said,
but I just got done't saying that. I should have
just kicked the ball to the end zone and let
them have it at the No, no, we're going to
We're we're better than that.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
We can do that. I don't want to do that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He was in position, he was ready.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Because because the because the kickoffs were great, they were
all what round the seven yard line to the goal line,
to the numbers, You had them pinned.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And you didn't cover, they were getting blocked.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
It got to be better.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So the excuses were there for us, but we refuse
to take them. So that's what's different about this team
this year as opposed to the last couple of years.
They they're not taking any excuses except there have there
have been some games where you're like, what the hell
just happened here? How did we come out this flat?
But right now, I don't think we're that team.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
You want to give Dan Campbell a star for what
he did, I'm going to do it because he didn't
make any dumb decisions. He did he was he did
not get in his own way in this game.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I don't think they went for it on fourth down.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
They didn't need to because they all right.
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Speaker 4 (43:10):
All right, we continue with mixed shots. Final few minutes here.
We got anything on the rundown that we haven't examined
so far, or anything we have bill lessons learned from
Detroit offensive identity moving forward, NFC playoff push mindset. We
kind of covered the playoff push mindset.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
How about not kicking five field goals?
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Not kicking five field goals? Not on the rundown, But
we can go with it. Since this is called mick shots.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well, let's see, and we just predicted that.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
We just take for granted that this kid hit five out.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Of five field goals. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, I had him as I picked a click. Thank you,
you're welcome.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Sixty three, twenty nine, fifty seven, forty two fifty five.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
What is the what is the what is the mix shots?
What is the Mickey Spagnola commandment?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
What is it?
Speaker 8 (44:05):
What is our field goals?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
You kicked? Yeah? So what are you doing right now?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
Many kid's got to be congratulated.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Okay, all right, and they trot him out for a
sixty three yard or like it's nothing. It's in the
middle of the game. Okay, yeah, we're at the forty
go ahead.
Speaker 7 (44:24):
Yeah, it wasn't like the end of the half, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Game.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Tom Dempsey held the NFL record for sixty three yard
field goal for forty something years.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
And here he is, Oh yeah, middle of the game.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You know, it's amazing he had club foot. No, well
even I don't even know if people know that.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Oh yeah, oh they did after.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
He killed like these young kids.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't even know that we know it because yeah,
so the old kids.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
The rest of that story, it was again the rest
that story. Yeah, they're flying back after that. I guess
it won the game, right, Yeah, it was a walk off, right.
And so they're on the plane Detroit, right on the
charter flight coming back. And that was back in the
(45:16):
day where not only text brought the newspaper guys on
the plane so they would get coverage.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
So they go up to Text and ask them, what
did you think of that field goal?
Speaker 8 (45:28):
It's an NFL record?
Speaker 6 (45:30):
He goes, he had an unfair advantage, and they're going, well, text,
he has like a stub foot and going with it. Yeah,
but he's got a wooden thing on there, and it's unfair.
So they go back, they're getting ready to write it.
The PR guy finds out right and they told him
what Tex said and he goes, okay, come with me.
(45:52):
He goes, text, do.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
You really want to say that? He goes, do you
know the.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Uproar you're gonna with you know, with whatever association, And
he goes, no, it's unfair.
Speaker 8 (46:03):
And they wrote it, and the next day they.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Got deluged with calls. Everybody was upset. So he finally
had to apologize. So when he retired, I did a
collection of some of his short no text, okay, when
he retired, I did a collection of some of his stories,
and two of them were the Ice Bowl, bart Starr
(46:30):
and then that kick and I said something about dempseed.
He goes, it was still unfair, and then and then
for Lombardi sending bart Starr for the winning quarterback sneak
and it was still the worst call in the NFL ever,
because if you don't make it, you lose the game.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Have you heard the you know the text ram John
three to sixteen story. No, Pat Summer all told me
the story. Remember the guy that used to with the
rainbow hair, that used to be in the stands. You'd
have John three sixteen Bible Verse on his shirt or whatever.
And apparently tech said somebody, uh, in the press, but
(47:13):
who is this guy named John who has the down
in distance shirt?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Some things you just shouldn't say out loud. You just can't.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Part of the entertainment at home games was TeX's sat
right behind where we were in the first row. He
was in the second row, and he did not refrain.
If there was a call he thought was bad, he
would call the guy so many names out loud right
that he would be fine today. Right if somebody reported
(47:51):
the things he said, it was, it was great.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
He should have been fined by some of the things
he said about me.
Speaker 12 (47:56):
Yeah, one game in Philadelphia, they had the press box,
the Visitors Press Corps was here, that radio, TV radio,
and then the home in the press box at the
Old Vet And there was a call in the game
(48:17):
and the big guy I forgot his name, that did
radio forever for the Eagles. He goes, well, it's just
another example of you know, tex shrams got these referees
in their pocket.
Speaker 6 (48:28):
Well, Texas sitting right at the edge, and he could
hear the whole thing. And he's in his suit, and
he gets up and he knocks on the window and
he pulls the lining out of his pocket to show
there was nothing in there.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Is that Meryl you're talking about?
Speaker 8 (48:46):
Yes, Beryl, thank you.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
I forgot his day.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
I hope Meryl Rece does not have any game winning
calls tonight.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
He's still doing it.
Speaker 8 (48:55):
He still doing it right. Oh yeah, this would have
been back in the late eighties.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
I think we filled the time there.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I think you did.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
And we haven't had a game since Thursday.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I'll try again tomorrow. I'm consistent.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
I will try to make sure you want something in
the hospital visits that way.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Alrighty, Then that was a nice show there, will you
all right?
Speaker 7 (49:22):
We 't's do it again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You go Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
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and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You're flying, get it up there, Look you're there.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
These boots were made for a walk again.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, heck Maharrison with new boots.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yes, my first pair, really spare of boots.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
You get it from a Texas Tech red raider in
town this week.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I did not I did.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Not boots for the first nine in years on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Got it across the street from Luke Casey. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
And man, these things like wearing house shoes. Man, I'm
mad at everybody. It's like, you know, it's like the
people that don't tell you about Christ and you be
mad mad at them. You know, it's like, why didn't
you tell me about Salvation? You know, I've been destroying
my feet all these years?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
What kind of you got there?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Casey, don't make it do that. It's a damn shame.
What happened to that?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Gat you at the bottom of them they're worn out.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, telling you because you can't get the come on
the park with fall down. He's been on the paper.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
You take your coat off and stale.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Wise man, you know.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
They can't even see the that's the shame in this
show that you can't shoot.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
You can't see the shoe game that I come in
here with it and a half miles this morning in
those boots.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Hey, listen, these things like when I'm telling you like
wearing their house shoes, you guys owe some boots. And
you never just walked up to me and said, he
you need a pair of boots.
Speaker 8 (02:10):
But you know, you know I never owned any.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I used to and I lived in Lubbook. I wore
boots every day, went in Rome.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
They just read regular leather boots though right.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Now I had some caseyes actually okay, yeah, okay, hey.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
They see ostrich skin.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know I cannot see you instri No, I cannot
see Bill. That's what I'm saying. I cannot see you
wasted all this time knowing.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Me and my jeans that I used to wear and
used to have the Copenhagen in the back whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Bill symbol tell us. But these boots, man, give you
a couple of inches.
Speaker 6 (02:56):
Too late to worry about that, I would say up,
but it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Alone was yeah, so good. All right.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
By the way, speaking to jeans, I had to put
jeans on too, and don't. I don't wear jeans anymore.
And well the reason, well, I wear them occasionally. Whatever,
it's just more comfortable, wear warm up. Why do I
need to wear jeans? But the problem is is the phone.
What do you do with the phone with your jeans?
You know, you used to be you had a clip
on or whatever back in the day or whatever, and
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or you put them in your back I feel I
feel like if I put in my back pocket, I'll
sit on it and break the phone.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Don't put it in your front pocket.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It's too tight.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He has no slimming jeans. I'm like, that's just wears.
It's my phone. Yeah, I got slim off.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I don't want the old man jeans.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Wranglers go with you don't want the mom and dad jeans?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Exactly right?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
He cannot win mind, no, you talk about uncomfortable walk.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
All right?
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All right, well, you know what, this is a very
big day for Dallas Cowboys football.
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Right, that is right?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That is right?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And why is that Mickey, you're gonna answer my question.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Because the Eagles have to play tonight.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
This is the biggest right now. It's the biggest day
of this season because the Los Angeles Chargers need to
win this football game tonight.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
They play Eagles.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
They're playing at Sofi Stadium in LA.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So you're saying, we're all Charges fans tonight.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You gotta be Chargers. Here are the numbers. I'll throw
some numbers at you. Four and these are your lottery numbers.
Four and three, three and four or two and five.
Those are the numbers you need to remember. Cowboys have
to win four games and the Eagles lose three, or
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the Cowboys win three games and the Eagles lose four,
or the Cowboys win two games.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Eagles have to lose all five rests.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So the Eagles are they are? They are? They are?
Only that's the page.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That's the path.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I mean, technically, mathematically, there is a path wild card.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
What but when you've got.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The three teams in the lead in the wild card
race right now have three more wins than you do,
and there's only four more games to play, and so
there's not so and there's eight teams with better records
than you and the other division but.
Speaker 8 (05:32):
Four of them.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
There's five teams that are non division leaders right now
that have better records.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And that's the ones that I was looking at.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
There's three wild card but two of those that of
the five they beat you.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Yeah, but the tie, how does that I break?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Except for the tie? It can?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I mean, for instance, the Lions. Okay, it's a great example.
The Lions just beat you on Thursday. However, because of
that tie, the Cowboys have the Lion. If the Cowboys
went out, the Lions have to win three of their
last four games to it to beat you out of
the playoff spot. The problem is the Lions aren't the
ones you're really chasing. You got others ahead of them
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in the wild card race, so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Got their own problems.
Speaker 8 (06:19):
Let me explain it to you.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Is that lucky bubbles or whatever that know, that's a
different thing.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
So Chicago's not in the division lead. They're nine and four,
they're a half game behind the Packers. Detroit's eight and five.
They got a better record than you do. Seattle's ten
and three. They're technically in second place behind the ten
and three Rams in San Francisco's nine and four and.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
The bottom line on that all those teams he just mentioned, Okay,
if the Cowboys went out, they get to ten wins.
So those teams with the nine wins and the ten wins,
they just have to get to eleven to beat you.
So that meaning that they have to win one or
two games out of their last four to wind up
with eleven wins.
Speaker 6 (07:04):
So just look at the lost column, no doubt, because
that half will help you when looking at the lost
come and.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
That's kind of what gives us the advantage is that, yeah, it.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Got a half a win, a lost half a win,
So they got a lot.
Speaker 8 (07:19):
Of work to do.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
But it's the Eagles is the path and it needs
to start tonight with the Chargers beating the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Do you guys believe that I've heard shoddy this just
this morning in his oppress or say that you know,
I'm not not you know, clock watching or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
In a way, wouldn't you think he has to?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I mean, I know this coaches speak, but at the
same time, possibly getting into the postseason, you're watching everything.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
Well, he's a play caller as well as the head coach.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, I mean he got bigger issues to deal with.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
He's got too much, especially early in the week, he's
got too.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Much stuff to do to get ready to put a game.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm talking about foot tonight, I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Talking to Yeah, he's got he's got game plan that
he's got to install and it's all got to be
in place when the team comes back on Wednesday. And
so he's just wasting time if he's watching a football
game tonight.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Or are wasting emotions. I don't think you want to
get emotionally involved in watching somebody else, right because.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
It might now it is a team the Chargers, that
what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now, the one thing that he might sneak a peek
at is not the Eagles because he's done playing with them,
but he does play the Chargers.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Next point exactly, So that would be exes.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And so that would be a reason to watch more
so than who's going to win the game.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
But it's no way you can watch the game and say, Okay,
I'm just going to concentrate on how we're going to
attack the Chargers when they playoffs versus what they're doing
with the Eagles tonight, and not think about the implications
of the game.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
It's impossible, which is why you might want to keep
your mind off it so that you can focus on
your job, which is to put that game.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's tough, tough, that's tough. I mean, you can say,
but it's not. It wouldn't be true. It wouldn't be true.
I mean, you're gonna you're human, we all are. We're
going to be looking at this game like.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, but the uh as, you know, coaches have tunnel
vision when they're I mean, they don't even know what's going.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
On outside these these walls as.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
They go about their business through the week because they
got they got to be focused.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They got so much stuff.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
Especially as a head coach, there's so much stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Going on that we don't even know about that's going
on with players.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And that's why I'd say this, you have to come apartmentalize.
He's still going to have, of course, the emotions of
looking at the game, but coaches are good, they're come apartmentalize.
So he will do that regardless of what happens tonight
in the game.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
What about the players.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
The player is gonna be on the players are going
to be emotional. Yeah, we're going to be emotional if
you watch.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, like in eighty four when you knew I watched everything.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You watch everything. I probably watch it with my boys.
We might have been at Tony Mooma's or something watching
the game.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, I know it's emotionally charged. And that's why I
bring it up. There's no way nowhere in hell at
this point in December. And not only that, you know,
look the playoff implications. Every time I see that thing
come up and it says like these are the division
in the hunt and then those at the bottom come on, man,
they'll tell me they're not watching that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Hell, yeah, you're looking at it. It's okay for the
players to watch. That's what they need to do. They
need to watch.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
But what a difference a month of football makes. I mean,
coming off of the Arizona Cardinals loss, it was completely downhill,
and then these last four games, you know what. I
don't know if we talked about it per se on
this show about that the toughest span of the season,
but that was a lot of what people were talking about.
When you once you get to the Eagles, the Chiefs
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and the Lions, what were.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The Cowboys going to do?
Speaker 5 (10:52):
And you only lost one of those that Detroit obviously
the Detroit game. It still didn't make it any better
for where you where you're out look for the rest
of the season. But man, that is probably the silver
lining as you go back through this season to see
what that stretch, what you were able to able to
do doing that time period.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I think go ahead.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
I was going to say, if you think about it,
coming out of the bye, you saw what was coming
up right through Thanksgiving and then the neck because you
didn't get a break. So you sat there and go, well,
if they win three out of four, that would be
pretty good. And they did and it wasn't good right
(11:32):
because they lost the last right, and then it changed
the whole narrative of what you were thinking because I
guarantee you when you were looking at the first three,
the Raiders, the Eagles, the Chiefs, You're going, okay, you
get two of these three, that would be good. What
you got all three of them? Then you start going, well,
how about three out of four?
Speaker 8 (11:51):
So you said we got greedy, Well, yeah, it was
spoiled leading.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Up to it is what we disappointed ourselves though. Yeah,
leading up to all of that, I mean, we should
have done.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Lost to Arizona was awful, just and not.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Just that one. I mean, as we look at the
time the Chicago loss, we looked at that as.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Yeah, but at least they got nine one.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
They're doing better. They're doing better so that the loss
was not as bad. But along the way and the Carolina.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Game, Carolina, they're not for Carolina, but just thinking we
won that game, Arizona ain't tied from nothing nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, So so I remember saying, if we could just
do better before we get to that stretch, we'll be okay.
But we didn't do as well before that, and then
we did even better on the stretch. So doing that stretch.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Especially Arizona, because now they did I just see that
they're mentioning Murray for the rest of the.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, he's been hurt and been hurt and the year.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
That is a that's a contract deal where they don't
want him to get injured in their old money.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
If they move on, they are moving on.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah yeah, So, but the Arizona is tied for something.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
They are tied.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
For the worst records that they are. They are tied
for coach most likely to get fired very soon.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
Three and ten.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
That's what kind of see New Orleans is three and
ten Washington's three and New Orleans one.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Let yesterday about that, Yeah, they did well.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
How do you say?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It's slow slow shuck shock close shot, shuck, shuck shuck.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
There's no k no, there's not.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
He went to Texas Tech.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
H he wont well, I wanted three schools he went to.
He started at Oregon, then transferred to Tech, and then
wound up at Louisville. So and he just without scorn,
without throwing a touchdown pass, he won. He did run
for two touchdowns. Yesterday they beat Tampa Bay, which is
a team that's floundering right now.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Vegas is two and eleven, Tennessee's two and eleven, and
then who was the other one?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I just said.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
The Giants are two?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So before we next segment, get dived deep into the Cowboys,
your sunday of watching other games and the takeaways that
you that you have.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Nothing from yesterday. Everything is from tonight.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
No, you're all about tonight. Now all about tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And once again, you guys know where I stand. I mean,
this is all very dramatic, but you know, I hope
they proved me wrong. But I'm the pestimist of the group.
I hope they proved me wrong because once again we
had in our own hands, which is where you always
want to be. And now to not only have to
do something that's pretty tough to do, not impossible, it
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was tough to do, meaning win three out of four
or hopefully just go four out of four, and not
not just doing that, you still have to depend on
someone else. That is just a tough way.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
And if that someone else doesn't win tonight, they're going
to have to lose three out of their last four
games against the Raiders, two against Washington, won at Buffalo,
and you have to run the table if they don't.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
If the Eagles don't lose tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
And you know, those referees are waiting for you.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
By the one one takeaway that I have from last night,
waiting on you the bad calls. Andy Reid's play calling
doesn't work as well when he doesn't have the hawsers
on his team, you know, or ass up front on
the offensive line.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
The offensive line.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Hell, that's you know, Andy's been dealing with that for
years and years.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Well, the thing is, and then you start making decisions
like going forward on fourth and yard, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
The desperate teams, And I think when you think that
Kansas City is one of those desperate teams, desperate four
win at home against the Houston team, that right now, Man, defensively,
I hadn't gotten the opportunity to put my eyes on them,
but the Minko Ryan's has a defense that is incredible.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
We talk about Petrie, It all look like giants.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Except for him, except for him, except for that one guy,
but his edges, I mean, and I think also, I
don't know if you guys got an opportunity to watch
that Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And yeah, snow I love snow games.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
That was a damn good game. I mean, raggedy because
of the conditions. But man, you know that nothing is
going to be made of the way that you know
Cincinnati's quarterback has battled back from his injury. But man,
he really did try and come back and save the season.
But Josh Allen, Man, I don't know, every time you
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think he's down, every time you think he's he's made
it to a point where he is not that elite.
He just does something to show you, yeah, he's the
man you know he could take. He really does carry
that team on his back when they need it, and
I love seeing football games like that when they play
out with he's the hero.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's just tough on Josh. You know, he's always just
like right there and now here. It is all these
times he's been battling Mahomes and the Chiefs. Now you don't,
I don't think it's going to the Chiefs. Now, what
are we looking at here? What are we looking at
in the AFC? Right?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
New England?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
New England? But I know our.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Two games the Bills in the standing still, So do
they play again? I'm sure they do.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
But do you believe in? Do you believe in New England?
Speaker 5 (17:25):
I know that Carcelles says, your schedules, you are what
your schedule says, your record live he quoted that. But
I just there's not a whole bunch of belief in
New England right now. Even at eleven.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, we hadn't seen them, that's the main thing. You
just hadn't seen them, and so they had been on
nationwide TV.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, their schedule has been really soft for my NFL standards.
That's one of the reasons why you haven't seen them as.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
They Well, did you have New England, Jacksonville and Denver
leading the division going into the last month.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So let me say I haven't been waiting on Jacksonville
for quite some time, even Pitts. By the way, Jacksonville
has been the team that has been underachieving for quite
some time. They keep talking about the quarterback and how
he's got to do this and all of that. He's
needed help. He has always needed more help than they
were willing to give him. And finally they came with
(18:17):
a defense that can help compliment this guy's game because
they have a good running game, they have a good
passing game, they have a good defense. And you know,
I want to blame it on someone. I wanted to
play it on the coaching, but maybe this is the guy.
Maybe this coach is the one that can handle this
really young team that you have in a small market.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And by the way, New England hosts Buffalo Sunday, very
good on CBS. New England won at Buffalo first time around.
They're looking parade and.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I'm sure Josh Allen and that's the thing. Josh Allen
probably threw some interceptions. So you know, Josh is like, man,
I don't want it. No here you take it. No, No,
Mahomes is not in this time. Oh well, okay, maybe
I'll go ahead and take over now.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
And that's a clear pathway for teams like that in
the AFC that have had to contend with Kansas and
now they're falling away.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I have no idea. I have no I mean, coming on,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Did you see the controversial play in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, that's a catch? What are we talking here, guys?
It's a catch, right, it's a cats catch.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Okay, it was a catch a cat until it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Some believe they ruled it a catch. Very What about
the the Aaron Rodgers getting the ball back?
Speaker 8 (19:34):
I missed that.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Oh man, so did the refs.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I'll tell you what, Tomlin Tumblin has nine lives. I
don't know he got nine lives.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Man. There was another call yesterday. I could see on
the TV that they were short of the first down,
and they marked it a first down, and finally somebody
called upstairs and it wasn't like a ball short of
the first It was a full the yard, right.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I think that was in the Kansas City game. What
was it? Yeah? I believe so.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
I've watched so many I know, right, they all run
together College and Friday.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's just running to see reps just screw up games.
It started with ours.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Hey, Bill, before you go to break, Are you going
to be in Norman next weekend?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I'm not with next weekend week Friday. Yes, for the playoffs,
I will not be there.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
No, I love them, Okay, I'll have family there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Okay, I mean, I just fixing me.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
If I want a ticket, I'm not paying it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You're not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
No, first one to twenty wins that game, first one
to twenty.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, last time they played it was the first one
to twenty three. O. You won twenty three to twenty
one in Tuscalusa.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
How do you guys feel about these college teams not
going to the ball.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
That's good, good question. How any of them make me?
When you put a committee together.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
You're gonna things are going to get screwed up. Yeah,
committee are making decisions all.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It makes no sense whatsoever?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Well, I mean for me, like I've been reading, uh
this news that's coming out about teams like No to
Dame not going to a bowl game. Uh, even Kansas
State isn't going to uh not going to not going to.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
A ball They stayed because they changed coaches. And I
always stayed the same.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
It's not getting five hundred thousands.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Five hundred thousand for what not to not.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
They are Bowl eligible, but they do not want to go.
The guys they're coaching change guys.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
We went taking them for my freshman year, we went
to the wiser Lock Copper Bowl in Arizona. The best
time of my life. How do you turn that down?
Speaker 6 (21:39):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And now that teams like.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Games can be the best time of your life, because yes,
for a whole week, yes, and probably for most of
the week without a curfew, maybe the day before.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And you get it, per deemn you and the.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Playoff games those are business trips and so it's not
the same deal when you're going to play.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
The Iowa State players voted against it. Iowa State the
nerve they felt, They felt like the kidding me. They
had so many injuries that they couldn't practice.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
And they get guys in the transfer portal probably are
planning to go there and they don't win.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's where I think. That's that's how you're ruining football,
the man.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
That is that's how it gets because I'm telling you,
we celebrated off of the wiser Lot Copper Bowl in I.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Bet you anything, they're getting advice and not being Iowa
State players. There aren't as many Iowas State players that
go to the NFL, although I understand there are some
some very good ones. Couple of wide receivers for the
Texans right now are rookies, but they are protecting their
investment in terms of the transfer portal and what they're
going to do next, and they don't want to risk
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an injury in a bowl game.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
That is my biggest My biggest deal was Alabama. No
one pointed.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
They kept saying, well, they shouldn't be for losing the
championship game, right, Well, what about losing to Florida State.
Everybody kept pointing out somebody's bad loss, like Texas bad
loss to Florida Florida. Alabama lost to Florida State.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
If you line up Texas resume with Alabama's resumes, should
be in Texas should be it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yes, absolutely, I'm not going to argue that.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
Sorry, it's not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'll pick another time.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I was shocked this week that you know, ESPN puts, okay,
the three teams on the bubble. They're choosing between Alabama,
Notre Dame in Mi Miami well worse Texas Texas. Texas
has the same as three losses, just like Alabama does,
and they're one of their losses was the first game
of the year against the defending national champion, and then
number one rank Ohio State. They've got wins over seventh
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ranked Texas A and m and seventh rank I mean
eighth ranked Oklahoma. And yeah, they do have the bad
loss to Florida, but so but Alabama's got a bad
loss to Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
SAD is not a bad loss in Florida, right, exactly?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Not exactly right, I don't care what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, that's not a bad loss. Floyd is they have
dudes on.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Their team, Yes they do, Yeah, so there anyway.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yes, but the fact that for weeks they've got Notre
Dame ranked ahead of Miami, which was wrong because Miami
beat Notre Dame in season, but since then Miami's had
two losses. That's the problem with doing the weekly rankings
every week because you put too much emphasis on what
just happened rather than looking at the full body of
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work and and the weekly rankings. It's a TV show
for ESPN, that's the reason why they have it. There's
a reason that in March Madness, they don't do TV
shows with the with official rankings from the committee published
each week. They just make their decision on selection Sunday.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I heard today that ESPN that show you're talking about,
the ranking show gets a million viewers. You think they
got some basketball game that's gonna get a million viewers
at that time of the year.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
It's appointment television for college football fans. They have a
team right to the top.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Hell I was tuned in. Yeah, he talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
In Kansas State was nowhere to be sound, where to
be found.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
I'm complaining about not going to a bowl game.
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Speaker 3 (27:57):
Wait, at man, we need an open during the break,
so you don't.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Let's go to the rundown now unless unless Mickey, you
have something from Shot East press conference you want to share.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I think we should look at maybe the injury report
going into this week and they won't practice today.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
They are doing the hospital visits. By the way, Okay, so.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
CD with his concussion, Schottenheimer said he should be good. Diggs,
who was inactive for the game Thursday, should be good
to go. So I think that they looked at it
and said, hey, let's be realistic. He's practiced two or
three times in the last seven weeks. Probably not going
(28:47):
to send him out there. M h Guyton, We got
to check the next few days. I think he's he's out.
Speaker 8 (28:55):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I haven't, I haven't, and I haven't seen him do
anything right, so I would imagine that he's not ready
to go. And nobody asked about Clowney.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I think he was asked about in general.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
I think the question was give us an update on Diggs, Clowney, geit.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
And he never got ever gotten around to Clowny.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Because Clowney my understanding, and I watched him work out
before the game, and they had, you know, the little
committee there looking watching how well he did the stuff
that Britt was putting him through, and he looked like
he was doing pretty good, and he looked like he
was trying to talk his way in. But I think
with the hamstring, they decided, you know what, we can
(29:40):
get ten days more with this, let's not do anything
to jeopardize him making it worse, and now he's going
to miss two or three games him.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Yeah, they did, and I.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Think at the point where he should be good to go,
and it's.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Gotten to the point now where you're not saving guys.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Right, they got to play because you don't you can't
afford to say, well, in three weeks, who you know, No,
you got to go. So I think I think he
was close enough that they could have played him if
they decided not to worry about the long term effect
of that of that injury. So so I think those
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were really the only guys that I remember.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
That would have had something.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
Although I'm sure Dak was pretty sore when he woke
woke up the next morning. God, yeah, and he still
threw for three hundred and seventy six yards.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
And what was the word Schottenheimer described on Nate Thomas
the review of Nate Thomas Play.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Rough It was it was, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
He looked like he was had some miss shoes on.
I mean they were going around him so fast.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Well, and he explained, he did explain it. He basically
pointed out that he wasn't staying his sets, he wasn't
staying square. He was too aggressive, it is, and he
was turning like you're on the left. Well, you can't
turn to the left because now you shorten the edge
to go around.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
You got to stay here.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
You're a three hundred you're a wide body, three hundred
and thirty pounds man just hold your position. And he
was too aggressive and reacting to a move and it opens.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Up a lane.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
He overreacted.
Speaker 8 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, right, And he's really athletic.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
I was watching when they were going through their warm
ups the other day last week, and you know how
they go through those step things. He can really run,
and he can his f is quick, really good quick
for it, right, And I was saying, Oh, that's pretty
good for somebody that's three hundred and thirty pounds or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
When you have a player like that that's having a problem,
it's it's up here. It's up here that his technique
could have been better. But the way I saw him
being beaten on the outside, he was hesitating too much.
It's like he was waiting on another move under I'm
waiting for a stunt.
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Move, like they were going to come in.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, and and the man just kept going around to
the outside. You know. Eventually, I just think he was overwhelmed.
I think he was overwhelmed by the moment. It had
nothing to do with his talent, because he is way
talented than what I saw in the game.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Second start in the NFL, you know, didn't play all last.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Year, and no, and we act like he's there's not
another guy out there that's trying to beat his head
in I rel T and Aq Muhammad had plays for
him and they used that to their advantage. And oh,
by the way, this Viking squad they gonna come. He's
gonna have to be better. So we talk about the
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technique and all those things. He has to be better
in this game. There's no time there's no time off.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
In the NFL.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
So if if it's in his head, he better get
it out there, he better get it out you know.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
He's really basically, even just from an experienced standpoint, he's
a lot like where Geiton was a year ago. And
yet Geyiton in college had played against big time opponents
okay at the level that he played at compared to Louisiana, Okay,
on a consistent basis.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And we saw the struggles.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
That Geydon had as a rookie and the improvements that
he's made over the last year.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
And if there's one difference, Bill I would say just
the fight from it seemed like Nate Thomas has a
little bit more fight than Geydon had in his rookie season.
Do you talk about being overwhelmed by the competition. I
thought I saw that a lot from Tyler Guidon. It
just like he fish out of water. I don't have
that feeling about Nate Thomps. It just feels like he
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got beat. You know, your technique can be better. You
clean that up. You're there.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You don't think he's good enough.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
No, he's thinking the opposite of this. He's thinking that
he's Yeah, I think he is.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
You know, I was looking forward to sing to sing better.
But as I look at as I looked at Detroit game,
you know a lot of people are kind of blowing
it off as oh well, but yeah, I thought that
that game up until a certain point, it's exactly what
the Cowboys expected. It was going to be a tough game.
You knew you were going to have to win on
(34:10):
guts alone, on a lot of that now once again,
and that's this is just me harping on the the
the offensive passing fence call, which is that's probably one
of the worst calls of the season to me as
far as I'm concerned. But though, you know, putting that aside,
the Cowboys were on pace to make this game one
of the more exciting games that I've seen, uh this season.
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That's because we were the comeback was there. H even
though we couldn't stop anyone, I was still looking forward
to maybe that happening and giving the Cowboys another chance.
But then, of course, when they had the bad calls
and the interception, then that that took everything down, and
you scored thirty points, and.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And and somebody pointed out to me about this.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
They were going to score more.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
Yeah, they were going to destroy defense. I go, you
what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Were hundred yards four hundred totally yards?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
You knew they were coming. You knew they were coming.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Free seventy six after getting hit all day long, you
knew this game was gonna be tough.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You it was to me, it was lining up just
the way it was supposed to line up. But then
the referees getting away, and then with.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Three forty two to go, it's thirty seven thirty There
you go.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Then it you should have been thirty seven thirty four.
That's on the verge of being thirty seven if you get,
if you don't get.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
That's what that call. I thought that the Cowboys played
the way, to me, that's the best they can expect
to play. The defense should have done better, Yes, but man,
those guys over in Detroit, they're getting paid too, and
this is a desperate game for them.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
So were those fans It was louder, Oh well, because
they needed it right.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Desperation was throughout the entire stadium. You can feel that
on TV. So just watching that and seeing how well
we played, I thought we played well. I've seen teams
great defenses. We talked about great defense, the Cowboys have
had great like this. I've seen great defenses get taken
to the to the to the to the shed, as
they say, and our defense is still good. But they
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were taken to the shed in this game because you
played against a championship ball club and the.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
And the other issue defensively is not taking anything away
from the defense need to be better. When you let
them start their drives at the forty the average forty
one yard line, especially where they can go run or pass,
and the four down territory.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We had an excuse, We had all kinds of excuses
to get blown out in this game, but we did.
We would not we would not give.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
In Everson as a as a guy that excelled in
his rookie season, savone revel and we heard shoddy talk
about it today that savone Revel wants to play nose
to nose.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
That's his that's his MO.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
He's not going to change who he is now from
your evaluation in that game, and you see him getting
beat the way that he did, do you think that
he needs to change his outlook? Maybe, hey, you're nursing
the knee, you're coming back. This is you know, first
couple of games in the NFL. You know, hey, maybe
back off a little bit when that is in his MO.
If they want to back off, then they shouldn't put
(37:13):
him in there. And so if he's going to continue
to play the way he likes to.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Play, and he basically said when he talked about it,
he didn't say we were going to make him back off, right,
you know, he goes And that's a good trait because
normally a young guy that gets beat like that, next
time it's like, well, let me just.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Step because the challenge doesn't get any easy because you
got justin Jefferson, it's a damn good test for you.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
We had a guy here, he's in Chicago right now.
He's second in the league interceptions, all right, and so
don't tell me that a player can't make plays. Okay,
I don't care who he's going against. I don't care
who he's going against. Eventually, you have to do what
is in your strength, all right, Whatever you're good at,
(38:02):
you got to bring that to the table. And this
kid is good at one on one, but he's also
good at playing the ball.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
So go back to the possession.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Back to what he Seven of the twelve possessions started
at either beyond their forty yard line.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Seven of the twelve.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
So what you said, special teams and he mentioned it today.
You know, they got to be better. He also said
something about how do you get better? And it's like, well,
do your assignments and we're going to look at the personnel.
So you know, I told the guys on the fan today,
I said, if you got Darren Woodson and you need
to put him out there on kickoff coverage, put his
(38:43):
butt out there, right.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Can we talk about how Dan Camble did the hell
of a coaching job too. It was a hell of
a coaching job in that game. He brought it to us,
We answered, we answered, but he kept bringing it when
we kept answering, and he kept bringing it.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Some guy named Tom Kennedy was running back kickoffs forty yards.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Seriously, well that helped.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I mean, you gotta give special team coaches credit as well.
They came with everything that they had. They they came
with every fast they came because of that desperation depicted that.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
We actually talked to c. J.
Speaker 6 (39:23):
Goodwin about it, about the coverage and guys, you know,
doing their deal or whatever, and I said, well, I said,
you're probably not going to agree with this. I said,
but I just got done't saying that. I should have
just kicked the ball to the end zone and let
them have it at the No, no, we're going to
We're we're better than that.
Speaker 8 (39:43):
We can do that. I don't want to do that situation.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
He was in position, he was ready.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Because because the because the kickoffs were great, they were
all what round the seven yard line to the goal line,
to the numbers, You had them pinned.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
And you didn't cover, they were getting blocked.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
It got to be better.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
So the excuses were there for us, but we refuse
to take them. So that's what's different about this team
this year as opposed to the last couple of years.
They they're not taking any excuses except there have there
have been some games where you're like, what the hell
just happened here? How did we come out this flat?
But right now, I don't think we're that team.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
You want to give Dan Campbell a star for what
he did, I'm going to do it because he didn't
make any dumb decisions. He did he was he did
not get in his own way in this game.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
I don't think they went for it on fourth down.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
They didn't need to because they all right.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
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Speaker 4 (43:10):
All right, we continue with mixed shots. Final few minutes here.
We got anything on the rundown that we haven't examined
so far, or anything we have bill lessons learned from
Detroit offensive identity moving forward, NFC playoff push mindset. We
kind of covered the playoff push mindset.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
How about not kicking five field goals?
Speaker 4 (43:35):
Not kicking five field goals? Not on the rundown, But
we can go with it. Since this is called mick shots.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well, let's see, and we just predicted that.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
We just take for granted that this kid hit five out.
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Of five field goals. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, I had him as I picked a click. Thank you,
you're welcome.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Sixty three, twenty nine, fifty seven, forty two fifty five.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
What is the what is the what is the mix shots?
What is the Mickey Spagnola commandment?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
What is it?
Speaker 8 (44:05):
What is our field goals?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
You kicked? Yeah? So what are you doing right now?
Speaker 6 (44:10):
Many kid's got to be congratulated.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
Okay, all right, and they trot him out for a
sixty three yard or like it's nothing. It's in the
middle of the game. Okay, yeah, we're at the forty
go ahead.
Speaker 7 (44:24):
Yeah, it wasn't like the end of the half, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
Game.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Tom Dempsey held the NFL record for sixty three yard
field goal for forty something years.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
And here he is, Oh yeah, middle of the game.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
You know, it's amazing he had club foot. No, well
even I don't even know if people know that.
Speaker 8 (44:44):
Oh yeah, oh they did after.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
He killed like these young kids.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't even know that we know it because yeah,
so the old kids.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
The rest of that story, it was again the rest
that story. Yeah, they're flying back after that. I guess
it won the game, right, Yeah, it was a walk off, right.
And so they're on the plane Detroit, right on the
charter flight coming back. And that was back in the
(45:16):
day where not only text brought the newspaper guys on
the plane so they would get coverage.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Right.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
So they go up to Text and ask them, what
did you think of that field goal?
Speaker 8 (45:28):
It's an NFL record?
Speaker 6 (45:30):
He goes, he had an unfair advantage, and they're going, well, text,
he has like a stub foot and going with it. Yeah,
but he's got a wooden thing on there, and it's unfair.
So they go back, they're getting ready to write it.
The PR guy finds out right and they told him
what Tex said and he goes, okay, come with me.
(45:52):
He goes, text, do.
Speaker 8 (45:53):
You really want to say that? He goes, do you
know the.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
Uproar you're gonna with you know, with whatever association, And
he goes, no, it's unfair.
Speaker 8 (46:03):
And they wrote it, and the next day they.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Got deluged with calls. Everybody was upset. So he finally
had to apologize. So when he retired, I did a
collection of some of his short no text, okay, when
he retired, I did a collection of some of his stories,
and two of them were the Ice Bowl, bart Starr
(46:30):
and then that kick and I said something about dempseed.
He goes, it was still unfair, and then and then
for Lombardi sending bart Starr for the winning quarterback sneak
and it was still the worst call in the NFL ever,
because if you don't make it, you lose the game.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
Have you heard the you know the text ram John
three to sixteen story. No, Pat Summer all told me
the story. Remember the guy that used to with the
rainbow hair, that used to be in the stands. You'd
have John three sixteen Bible Verse on his shirt or whatever.
And apparently tech said somebody, uh, in the press, but
(47:13):
who is this guy named John who has the down
in distance shirt?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Some things you just shouldn't say out loud. You just can't.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Part of the entertainment at home games was TeX's sat
right behind where we were in the first row. He
was in the second row, and he did not refrain.
If there was a call he thought was bad, he
would call the guy so many names out loud right
that he would be fine today. Right if somebody reported
(47:51):
the things he said, it was, it was great.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
He should have been fined by some of the things
he said about me.
Speaker 12 (47:56):
Yeah, one game in Philadelphia, they had the press box,
the Visitors Press Corps was here, that radio, TV radio,
and then the home in the press box at the
Old Vet And there was a call in the game
(48:17):
and the big guy I forgot his name, that did
radio forever for the Eagles. He goes, well, it's just
another example of you know, tex shrams got these referees
in their pocket.
Speaker 6 (48:28):
Well, Texas sitting right at the edge, and he could
hear the whole thing. And he's in his suit, and
he gets up and he knocks on the window and
he pulls the lining out of his pocket to show
there was nothing in there.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Is that Meryl you're talking about?
Speaker 8 (48:46):
Yes, Beryl, thank you.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
I forgot his day.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
I hope Meryl Rece does not have any game winning
calls tonight.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
He's still doing it.
Speaker 8 (48:55):
He still doing it right. Oh yeah, this would have
been back in the late eighties.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
I think we filled the time there.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I think you did.
Speaker 6 (49:05):
And we haven't had a game since Thursday.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I'll try again tomorrow. I'm consistent.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
I will try to make sure you want something in
the hospital visits that way.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Alrighty, Then that was a nice show there, will you
all right?
Speaker 7 (49:22):
We 't's do it again tomorrow at high noon.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You go Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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