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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Mick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,
Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
And it is time for a Texas two Step Tuesday
edition of mix Shots inside the s w BC podcast studio. Yes,
heck Ma Harrison says, come on in. You ain't connected there,
I ain't connected well, and Everson's trying to get connected
over there. Why is this a Texas two Step Tuesday Edition?

(01:00):
The bix shoints because the Cowboys are trying to complete
the Texas two step. They're halfway there. They knocked off
one of the Super Bowl teams on Sunday and they
try to knock off the other one on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
There you go, all right, that's the way I'm setting
this thing up. So that's your little headline. I got it, Okay, Texas.
That is two steps right, and that means that the
game is coming quick too.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
We're two days away.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
We're just over forty eight hours away from another football game.
How do you feel about it, Bill, I'm feeling really good.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
And he Alklahoma tized on the other side, ball.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Feast a feast, Yes, Yes, I'm glad you brought that up.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Creed Humphrey, the center for the Kansas City Chiefs, he
got introduced to Quinn Williams in a college football playoff
game about six years ago, and it did not go well.
He did not Creed Humphrey very well for Quinn Williams.
And so here we go again, Quinn Williams against Creed
Humphrey and the Kansas City offense. An offensive line missing.

(02:00):
The guy who, for several days was the highest paid
offensive guard in NFL history, Trey Smith, until Tyler Smith
became supplanted.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
A few days, Yeah, a few days.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
A few days, and then Tyler Smith signed his deal
on September thirteenth and became the highest paid offensive guard
in NFL history. Tray Smith. He ain't gonna be playing
on Thursday. You're ruling him out or I am ruling
him out. He's not officially ruled out, but he's gott
not one but two sprained ankles.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
He's got that.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Let me fix the entry port his ankle.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
I need to make it plural. H Well, he's got
a high ankle spray and a low ankle spray. Now
it could be the same ankle, and so it may
not be both ankles, but he's got two ankle springs.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
I'm so had happy that I watched you right into that, Bill.
All I have to do is put the Oklahoma the
spin on it. He walked right into it. Got something
for sure.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
How you match you in this game?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
How you feeling about Rashi Rice out of Richly? IM
feeling good?

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Good, pitch good, I'm feeling I'm feeling like he's fast.
I feeling like he's fast. But I like that queue
next to his name. So how's that doing?

Speaker 4 (03:16):
On the injury, he's listed as limited.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
He stayed.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
He came back in the game on Sunday and had
a key catch in overtime. But you saw it where
he made the catch over in the middle and he
slid down immediately after making the catch. They were in
field goal range, and so he did not what injury
is it? A hamstring?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
He has a hamstring hamstring.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
And so he was not risking it or injuring it
any further.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But here we are.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
It'll be four days later.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Any times somebody has If I if I go up
against a wide receiver with leg problems, I'm not backing
off the entire game. I'm going to press him the
entire game no matter what, even if it's his own
I'm going to be in a press position because you know,
you don't want to have their comfort zone.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
Yeah, make sure they if they have to use it,
stress it, they stress it even more. That'd be so
if I'm the Cowboys, I'm playing man to man.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
This is the one thing about this team that really
does put me in in a mood because of the
speed that they have on the outside. Rashi, Rice Xavier Worthy,
Hollywood Brown Limited, also Yeah and Company. I just think, Look,
I just think from what we faced, this is a
trio of guys and juju. Smith Schuster can't forget about
him because he is an animal when it comes down

(04:31):
to blocking down the field, and he's a possession receiver also,
So the challenge I think for eba Flus is, you know, look,
you feel like the communication is better on the back
end because of the way that the defensive line production
has ranchet it up. But this is gonna be a
challenge and I guess I'll pose a question for you, Yes, sir,
when it comes down to going up against not just

(04:53):
injured one guy that's injured, but that dealing with that
kind of speed, because these guys are four by one
hundred track team out there with the kind of speed
I mean.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
And so yeah, if I choose to press, then I
still better be ready. You know, it's not as if
they're just limp limping out there onto the field. These
guys are still capable. So you know, as much as
you want to be aggressive, you have to be strategically
aggressive in what you do.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You better not miss. That's my boy, that's my boy. Okay.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
And what do you think about Isaiah Pacheco Pachecko?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
You know that that guy there, he now me a lot.
He's been out. I love the way he runs.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
I don't know how well it's gonna uh be for
him as he retires, because he doesn't run away from
ahead butt uh. He doesn't run away from a tackle.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
One of those.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Those are kind of guys that you know, as much
as you know, you think it's going to catch up
with him. Until it does, they are forced to be reckoned.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
With well, they they wore out Kareem Huntless last game
he had thirty carries. Yeah, and Pachecko's been out, so
uh they're saying there's a good chance he could be
ready to play.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
You see how many total plays that Kansas City ran
against Indianapolis on something I'm going to get over now
overtime game.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
But if he carried the ball thirty times, I bet
they had eighty plays.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Ninety six plays.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Wow, ninety six plays. It's a camp.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
Would you attribute that to the second half of just
shutting down the Colts offense? I mean it had to
have something to do with it. A lot of penalties
maybe on.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
That it went overtime, but still yeah, still, yeah, ninety
six is that's got to be the most of any
team so far this year.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
And that's the one thing about Pacheco when he when
I look at him, is that he doesn't run away
from contact and he's not one of those elusive guys.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, he's you know, he's a he's a beast.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
He's a beast, and he's like Marshawn Lyntz, but in
the smaller package though, And that's a That's what I'm
saying for our defense and guys like Donovan Willis and
that loves to play in that box. Our linebackers that
that to me, I welcome the challenge, the thing that
on the outside, it's the speed component. And oh, by
the way, we haven't been very good against tight ends,

(07:12):
and they have one of the best tight ends in
the world. Travis Kelce, a dude that has been dynamic
since he stepped foot into the league.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
And although he seems to be kind of resurging because
last year wasn't so great, this year, I think he's
really shown, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
He's had a little bit more poise. He was very
frustrated last.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
Year in what was going on, and now I think
he's kind of settling down a little bit. Like you
don't don't don't come and attack your coach every time
you come off the fields.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
They have that relationship with each other which is kind
of weird, and they bumping into each other after every possession.
But you know, I was talking to Nate about this
and just the amount of games that the Kansas City
Chiefs have played over the years, and I mean, you
know as well, the playoff football, it's a long season.
They've been in those long seasons for a very long time,

(08:06):
you know, and they've played I think, and I've heard
an announcer say, like they've played almost a season and
a half more than their competition because of those playoff games.
And so maybe this is the attrition. You're starting to see,
the tired legs, whatever it is. Hey, ninety eight ninety
six plays in their last game. I hope they burnt
out and then they have to travel. Then they got

(08:27):
to travel not far, short league, it's not far.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
So you're telling me they ran that many plays and
only scored twenty three points.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
How does that happen?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's right, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Turn the ball over?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well some of that too, Yeah, they did some of
that too.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's coach, ran fifty one plays, right game, coach.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
And that the something's got to be wrong.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Well, I mean you had the defense to shut them
down in the second half period.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's all it is to it. I mean, I mean,
it's not a Scooba New mystery. That's the factor. That's
what happened. Yeah, they were, they were three and out
almost the whole fourth quarter.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
It was it was you know, Daniel Jones back in
in in New York.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Yeah, So I don't know as you guys look through
the books and me they won.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
He starts.

Speaker 6 (09:16):
And also when you start talking about Pachecko and the
matchups between here and our safeties, as far as I'm concerned,
a tackle is a tackle. You can go try to
blow them up all you want. You're not gonna blow
up that that young man. You're not gonna blow up Pachecko.
Just bring the guy down.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Let's run another play.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
And what I hate nowadays, man, is guys going there,
they try and make that blow up tackle, they don't wrap.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
And they don't wrap up.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Let's just make a good tackle and let's let's just
go to the next play because it's good. You know,
they're coming up to the line scrimmage ready for you again,
and he's gonna be ready for another hit. So don't
try to out hit anyone. Just outplay them, all right.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Okay, the last the last quarter of the game.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Quarter of your point.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
What you said about the Colts, all right, we're looking
fourth quarter and overtime. The last four possessions for the
Colts against the Chiefs in that game, it was three plays, punt,
three plays, punt, three plays, punt, three plays, punt, four
straight three and outs for the Colts, So that's twelve
plays offensive plays. Meanwhile, the Chiefs had five plays fumble,

(10:22):
eleven plays, touchdown, three plays, punt, fifteen places field goal,
twelve plays field goals. So they had twenty seven thirty eight,
forty eight plays, half the number of plays they had
in the entire game. We're in the fourth quarter and
one possession of BA and it was forty eight to
their ninety seven.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
It was three field goals and it was well five
was ill goals, I mean no, no.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
In the in the fourth quarter in overtime, the Chiefs
had a touchdown on two field goals and they coughed
it up on a fumble. So five possessions, forty eight plays. Okay,
so do the math on this, forty eight to twelve,
and so there's there's the disparity, but.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Still ninety eight they killed ninety one ninety six plays.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I do the math on this.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
They kicked a twenty eight yard field goal, that means
you're at the ten, right, They kicked a twenty two
yard field goal, they kicked a twenty five yard field goal,
and a twenty seven yard field goal, so that means
they were at.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
The knocking on the door.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And they could. They couldn't kick. They couldn't kick the
door in, they couldn't kick it in.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Field goals five of the twenty, so it's fifteen of.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Their Andy Reid's not going for it on fourth downs.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Guess not.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
Analytics Dan Campbell My head that that's still.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I was winning the pump pass and kick competition before
Dan Campbell was even born. Well, I didn't get this.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
The only the only touchdown, remember that, do they anything?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, you're only old video of Andy Reid winning the
pupasus where he looked like he's a grown man out
there with year old.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
The only only touchdown they scored was a two yard run,
so that was inside the ten yards so they got
all down the field. It doesn't say okay, and then
they got a two point consion.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
Yeah, something's going on with them offensively, and uh, you know,
I wasn't sold on the Coats in this game. It
was It ended up being a pretty good game going
into overtime.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I mean Coats were up on him fourteen to three
to start the.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Game exactly, and they kept back Kansas City. Again. They
are bad.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
They're battle tested team and they have that championship pedigree.
What you expect from them. They just don't have a
say die attitude. And that's the thing about a game
like this that even when you feel like you got
him down, you gotta stay on him. And Patrick mahomes Is,
I mean, he's still the best in the business. And
when I've seen called games where there's a quarterback out

(13:05):
there that is supremely confident in his arm, you know,
it feels like he.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Always he's always like a smidge away.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
From disaster because he's trying to deliver the ball in
spots where other guys can't get it to and that
usually it's either you know, feast or famine. In situations
like this, he has been feasting feasting for the most
part a long time.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
With those throws.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
So I'm just looking at our secondary saying, look, even
when you are perfect, even though you got the best
coverage in the world, he finds a way to whizz.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
The ball past you.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
And when it comes to playing against someone like that,
don't let them overwhelm you. You know you a ball
player too. The ball is still the ball. It's still
going to travel a certain way. If you covering your receiver,
then that ball is yours. If he throws it in there.
If he throws a good pass and you have good coverage,
that ball is yours because now you have just as
much a chance of getting the ball as the receiver, though,

(13:56):
so you don't get overwhelmed at what how he throws
the ball. What you pay attention to is the game
plan in the tendencies. You cannot get away from whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Your notes are.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
You know, you cannot get away from whatever you know
and whatever you've experienced as a player. And I know
these guys don't have much experience in our secondary. But
at the same time, football is still football. That means
that our defense, defensive line still needs to put pressure
on him. Our defensive line can't break down just like
you can't do on Jalen Hurts and allow Mahomes, who

(14:33):
at one point was a leading rusher on this team
at one point during the season. So he's gonna you
got the same issues that you had last year last
game with Hurts, except maybe a better passer and someone
who's more efficient in the passing game.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, sacked. He got sacked four times in that game.
Seventy six of their plays were either Mahomes or Hunt.
Forty six passes in thirty runs.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah, and that's why after the game, all the players
just kept saying, this is what he does for us,
this is what Mahomes does for us. He's gonna give
us a chance. I see it the other way around.
I think I don't care how good you are, Joe Montana.
I don't care what player you're talking about, even Troy.
You've always in certain games you're going to need your

(15:24):
defense to save you. And that game was twenty if
I'm not mistaken, that game was twenty to nine or
quite some time. And their defense that looked fast enough.
They didn't get any more, and Mahomes was able to
come back from those two scores because the defense did
their jobs.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
You can't do it by yourself.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
The defense did their job, and so to me, I
don't care what especially with the quarterback we have right now.
If your defense does this job, then look for your
quarterback to make something happen.

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Speaker 3 (19:03):
All right, Mickey, bring us up to speed. Anything else
that you heard from Schottenheimer yesterday, anything from injury standpoint.
Obviously it was an estimation yesterday because it's a short
week as far as availability. But Tyler Giton is the
one I guess that is of most most unlikely to
play on Thursday of that group.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
Yeah, in the game, he doesn't look like he's gonna
make it. Sorry, he's got a high ankle spring. Yeah,
And Schottenheimer termed it it would be tough for him
to get back in a week, and Jerry said, well,
when you say there's game day decisions, this is the
gay this is the week that you have game day decisions.

(19:48):
But he thought it would go right up to the
last minute on Guyiton, so if he's not there. Nate
thomas Osa had an ank elbow, but he did finish
the game. Aim he didn't practice. George Pickens didn't practice,
and Cavante Turpin had an illness and then a bunch
of guys had limited uh in Kansas City, only guys

(20:13):
that didn't practice. Noah Gray the tight end concussion and
Trey Smith. We talked about a bunch of other guys,
probably veteran days.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Get the chicken noodle soup, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Most interesting as it relates to our cornerback over here
is Kayln Carson and Kayln Carson not on the injury report.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
You're concerned about.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Him on Sunday, right, Well, as it turns out, Uh,
he was battling dehydration in cramps and so that's why
he wasn't on the injury report yesterday. So he should
be good to go on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
That's your boy, man. You talked about him. You talked
about him and day one.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
So they'll they'll have maybe an extra corner here with
how much they used the savonn revel And did you
show me the video of Elijah Clark yesterday?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I did not, but every.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Right, yeah, So they finally interviewed him yesterday and no
one could find him. Well, he's in the young man's
locker room, right, the rookies and the ricky free agents there.
They're not in the main locker room, so they had
to go get them out. And I excuse me, I
saw a big group around somebody standing in front of

(21:38):
Aubrey's locker.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
What the hell's going on?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Right?

Speaker 4 (21:41):
Well, he was doing a big interview because not only
did that video get out of him being the gunner
and getting knocked down three times and causing the uh,
causing the fumble on the punt return, but back in Camden,
New Jersey elementary school.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Which isn't right in the heart of those countries, right
across the Delaware Philip away. He said, ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Ten minutes. Uh, they they did.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
It was cowboy week, right, and they.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Got these big blocking dummies and they put cowboy uh
player faces on on the dummies and had the kids
with punching bags punching out.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Like elementary school.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Elementary school, right, Well, just so happened.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Well only only so kids do Clark's Clark's nephew school.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
He goes to that school.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, And he said, I had to call my sister
and say he didn't participate that, did he?

Speaker 6 (22:43):
I would protected it like no, no one's punching.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
This And it was his elementary school too, how about that?

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Damn some loyalty. So no, it just I mean, he
just that play implified. And I tried to say yesterday,
but I couldn't remember everybody's name, so y'all kept dogging
me and interrupted me.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
But that up it showed. I mean, just those four
guys right there, you know, you just just.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Because you were siting to see j. Goodwin in his role.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
In that man, come on, he made that guy hesitate,
which means that you got more pursuit coming at the
right time. If that guy doesn't hesitate and go right
to the corner, he might end up turning that corner.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
But you know, just the.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Way A Goodwin did his job. Man, this guy's a
pro at what he does. That's why everyone likes him.
That's why he's a captain. And so have it made
him hesitate. And as you saw the replay, those three
guys were in unison as they chase the ball. Now, Clark,
he doesn't you know, he's not famous unless.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Everyone does their job.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
He's not famous unless everyone does their job first. And
so those three guys going to the ball together, you know,
you know, I just thought.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
That Markispell was in there. In fact, he got credited
with a half a tackle on it.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I guess they recovered the ball. Who is the guy
that recovers? He looks like you do it?

Speaker 6 (24:12):
But I mean sick was he was hunting? Well, he
was hunting. He was right there with the boys. They
looked like a pack of hyenas going.

Speaker 5 (24:18):
After some Why didn't he let that ball go into
the end zone? The part returner? What hell you see?
You just see food. That's all you see is food.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
He's playing back home. He's from Woodrow, Wilson, He's from Woodrow.
He said, I'm going to make a play back home.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yeah he made one.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Thank you and see all of that, all of that
contributed to greatness. So yeah, but it had to come
from a team standpoint. And right now this team special
teams and all you know, everyone's playing together. You know,
just the addition to it all just made us we
look like a team now defensively and offensively.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
They asked him, how have you always been that right?
And he goes, I'm from Camden, y. We got knocked
down a lot and had to overcome a lot Camden,
New Jersey. And then he pointed to a tattoo on
his neck and I get one of his best friends
at thirteen years old, got shot and killed and so

(25:18):
that was the memory because but we had to get up.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
One of his best comments also is it was talking
about the mindset of this team, mindset of the special
teams guys, a young guy on the team too, and
it is we love each other so much. We're playing
our hardest for each other because we love each other
so much.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
And they've been through a lot, been through a lot
of failure, been through a lot of failure.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I mean that brings you close. It could separate adversity,
it brings it brings.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
You closer, especially if you're part of the resurgence, and
a lot of those guys are still here there part
of the marquis part of the resurgence. He's been blocked
playing linebacker and now all of a sudden, he back
where he needs to be. This team now can put
guys in strategic places to where all of a sudden,
now we're like, we know what it's like, we know

(26:09):
what it was like to be on the.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Other end of where we are right now.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
The guy for a safety six, Yeah, and last week
he made three. Elijah Clark made three special teams tackles
in the in the Raiders getah, yeah anything.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
And he started that one game at safety right there,
he start yeah, both of those.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Guys, and he started one game and then he came
in when another one of the no name safeties got hurt.

Speaker 5 (26:36):
And that's something you could go from feast to family,
like you could go from really good to really bad
back to really good. Because when those safeties went out,
everybody's talking about, you know, this practice squad, guys, guys
coming from up the street playing safety. What did you
want from the Cowboys defense? And this guy goes down
and makes a dynamic special teams play, put his name
on the map like that. That's that hard. That's the
kind of things that I take my kid and say, hey,

(26:58):
this this right here, this young man is doing it
on a team where he's fighting to stay on this team.
A lot of guys say, hey, they have everything given
to him, not not Elijah clark Man. And that's kudos
to him and everything that he's been. People that's been
talking about him all week long.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
People that do public speaking, I'm sure you know we've
all done some type of public speaking, motivational speaking.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know, when you see.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Something like that, it lets you know everybody's got a story,
you know, Bill, You'll tell you tell everybody's story every day.
You got a story to tell on somebody, you know
what I mean. It doesn't have to be you know,
being on the football team is men's stories. They you know,
they're never ending, you know, and they could be motivational
on so many different levels. So you know, you got
guys on this practice squad. It's a lot of great

(27:44):
stories just from the practice. Players on this team.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Talk about this platform that Elijah Clark hash from that
one plus right, and you think about that video is
being shown all across the nation by coaches, high school coaches,
little league coaches, whatever, even college coaches, probably in the NFL,
and so team coaches exactly showing that team this is

(28:06):
what this is why you don't give up on a play.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
You know, all.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Player, he's got he's got seven special teams, tackle, he's
in the he's fifth on the team. Your guy is first. C. J.
Goodwin twelve, uh REVN span Ford twelve, twelve special teams.
Really as a tight end.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
A big man, right, that is a big man.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
He's got ten and Maris Leo Files got eight and
then Clark seven. So He's made a place on this
team for him because he started off on the practice squad, right, So.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
Yeah, hey, we all know special teams can take you places,
just as Bill bates, It definitely take you place.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
They can think about the undrafted safeties on this in
this organization, going back to Barrett Church and Barry Church
have very recently, Barry Church, you spend a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
In this very That's right. He made a name for him.
I'm tried.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
He was out drafted out of Toledo and Anny.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Gan, Kenny Gan, Oh Kenny, that's my boy man. He
used to love Kenny. Could that be a goat? Hey,
come on, hello, what's up?

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Were to be doing our job here to the ghost tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
But I'm saying that's an idea for a goat. Like
special teams, I got.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
To get into the meat and potatoes of this, So
you guys got to make some hard decisions on this.
This goat talk too. By the way, can we do
the head to head match up with.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
That's what I was just sitting here going, Okay, it's
twelve thirty now, and so we just we just did
Elijah Clark, So how about we come back when we
come back.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
We're gonna do it.

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Speaker 3 (32:30):
All Right, Dak Prescott versus Patrick Mahomes, Dallas Cowboys versus
Kansas City Chiefs. By the way, this has the makings
of the most watched NFL regular season game ever.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Do you hear Jerry's prediction?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Oh? He say.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
He said that there's a good chance there'll be more
than seventy million people turning into this game.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
That's TV wow, seventy million, that's what he said. The
all time record was the Cowboys. And this is what
I was told this morning. So this is secondhand information.
I haven't checked it out, but apparently this was the
note sent out by one of the major networks to

(33:14):
a producer friend of mine. Okay, and he said that
the Cowboys Thanksgiving Day game twenty twenty two against the Giants.
Cowboys came into that game with a seven and three record,
the Giants were seven and three. Twenty twenty two was
the most watched regular season game ever at he's forty

(33:36):
two point one million viewers.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
But that may not be taken in online people and
stuff every what else? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Right, and so I think I think the whole idea
when the schedule was made out is that this is
going to challenge that have not exceeded. And it looked
like the way both these teams were wabbling around here throughout.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Much of the season.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
But here we go, here we are, and it's actually
being described as an elimination game for one of these teams.
It actually has even more intrigue because of where these
teams have come from and they're hovering around the five
hundred mark from that standpoint. But the key is you
got the two quarterbacks going up against each other, you
got the high profiather, they're healthy, and it's going to

(34:23):
be some great television on both teams.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Son both team.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
I was just saying, no, no, I didn't want to
interrupt your shine, but there's both teams are trending upward,
meaning yeah, the wins last week just adds even more
intrigue to the game.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
As Gary said, this is what you dream up of
when you think of a matchup relative to Thanksgiving Day,
and that's when he said, could be as many as
seventy million people.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Tuning in and in as few times the Cowboys play
the Chiefs, I mean being not in the same conference,
and it's every four years unless it's one of the
seventeenth games.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
You know.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
And last time was twenty.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
One, twenty one in Kansas City.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
And the COVID thing was still hovering overhead because we
can only put so many people from our department on
the charter, So the rest of us ended up busting.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
There, oh, right on Saturday before the game, and that
was a Chiefs win nineteen to nine, right, But both
back and Patrick played in that game prior to that.
It was twenty seventeen, and that of course was mahomes
rookie season and it was Alex Smith who started at
quarterback for the Chiefs. Cowboys won that game, but Patrick

(35:45):
Mahomes did not get on the field.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So yeah, those days are over how many times?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
So how excited is Patrick Mahomes going to be on
Thursday coming back here? He's got off season home here.
He grew up in East Texas. Where did he go
to High Tech? White House section? He has played at
at and T Stadium.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Listen to that.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
When he was at Texas Tech Tech would play Baylor
every year at at and T Stadium, And I remember
this might be the first time that I really watched
Patrick Mahomes play in a game. It was in twenty
fourteen against Baylor Baylor. I went back and looked up
the details. Of course, Baylor was really good. That was
the Art Brown's days at Baylor, and they got out.

(36:25):
Baylor got out to a forty five to twenty lead
in that game, and here came this young freshman quarterback
for Texas Tech, Patrick Mahomes, leading them back. Final score
was forty eight to forty six. Outscored him like twenty
six to three in the final sixteen minutes of that game.
He passed for five hundred and ninety eight yards and

(36:48):
six touchdowns in that game. The next year it was
a forty eight forty six loss. The next year Baylor
won sixty three to thirty five. He passed for four
fifteen two picks in three touchdowns. And then his last
year at Tech, he passed for five hundred and eighty
one yards at AT and T Stadium and six touchdowns
in a fifty four to thirty five wins. So that's

(37:08):
the last time that he has played at AT and
T Stadium.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
It is crazy. It is a wonder how people have
underestimated him. Underestimated him out of college with that type
of ability, even with the kind of player that he
was out of high school, only getting the Texas.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You know, to that point a great point.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
I remember being at the super Bowl in Atlanta in
twenty seventeen. Okay, so it was January twenty seventeen, and
Lee Steinberg was bringing this Texas Tech quarterback around in
the media attempt okay.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
And trying to drum up interviews.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Is like Tuesday or Wednesday of that week, and hey,
this guy he's going to be a first round draft pick.
I'm like, yeah, right, he played at Tech. It's a
system off and no man has had something to do
with and so yeah, and so arrogant and so, but
nobody would wanted interview him, I mean, and it's like, yeah, okay,

(38:07):
it's Steinberg. He's peddling this guy like like anybody cares,
and he turns out being the you know, Kansas City
trades up to the tenth pick of the draft. Is
Andy Reid knew what he was doing and Pixie, but
I just to this day, remember he was Steinberg couldn't
buy an interview h for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
The media is though, that's right, exactly.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
So everybody under the bus, they've never heard of it.
But except for the people here, I mean, people know
exactly who Patrick Mahomes is and I and I've talked
about this a lot, and just from my experience, is
the marriage between coach and quarterback, the way that Andy
Reid has had this relationship with him, took the time
to develop him when a lot of people were like,

(38:53):
you know, what what do you do with you know,
the Alex Smith who was a quarterback at the time,
who was playing good, right, and then inserts Patrick Mahomes.
I think that that his this this season for the
way that the Kansas City Chiefs have played, a lot
of people are down on them and thinking that maybe
they won't make the playoffs. And again I go back
to the amount of games that they've been playing and

(39:15):
just has it been the competition has gotten better? Are
they going through a downward spell with the talent that
they have on their team? But it's interesting he still
has twenty nine twenty nine hundred yards, Dak has twenty
nine hundred yards. Yes, wow, yes, yeah, we're balling. And
that's what I'm saying. The matchup between between these two

(39:37):
quarterbacks at this time in their career is Yes, it's
the timing of it is perfect narratives, right.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Bill kind of rubs off on me a little bit
in regards to nostalgia. I just love the the kinship
you have between the two organizations. To me, that just
adds to the to the whole spice of this whole
game coming up, about to go down the.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Road, No, no, of the road, the Preston Road trophies
at stake.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Here the Hunt family and the Johns family.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, I mean, and I think they've got it now
because they won the meeting, right, and they haven't played
in the preseason since well they did because it started
back before they were playing each other, right, they.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Put it up for the preseason game.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
They did.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
They did the kind of cheapers that the cheapers a
little bit, But.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Meeting in pre season.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
For me, just just the history of this, you know,
going up down the streets from all of this stuff
going on, and you know, just the fact that the
Hunt family decided not to pursue, you know, to challenge
what is it the what's what's came in the name
of the teams?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, they were Texans, but the owner of.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Himself, Clark Lamar Hunt Hunt.

Speaker 6 (40:58):
Yeah, Lamar Hunt. He didn't want to challenge, so he said,
you know what, I'll take mine to him.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Well, you know what was going on back in the day,
Tech Shram told me the story about when they were
both playing at the Cotton Bowl and so they're both
struggling to get people to watch the game, right, because
it was called that professional football. College football was everything here.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
As a matter of fact, my good buddy, the late
Frank luxA told me when he was working in Fort Worth,
no one wanted to go cover this professional team meeting
the Cowboys, and Blackie shared said who wants to go cover?
And no one spoke up, and Frank goes.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
He goes, I have to drive thirty miles back and
forth each way to go cover this pro team, right,
Like that's an insult, And then he ended up covering
him the rest of his life. Right, But they would
go They had all these special deals to sell tickets.
They were going door to door, right, and if one

(42:05):
of the teams and wasn't the Cowboys were playing better,
it was the Texas that the Cowboy people in the
ticket office would go knock on doors, door to door
and basically say you're buying tickets to the Texan games
when they were selling tickets to the Cowboys games.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
To get more people there.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Wow, they were just spoofing them. Yeah, both of them.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Had trouble.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Drawing attendance. And now look at them and now, yeah,
I look at it, both of them.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
All Right, we got just time enough for the news
of the day from the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Yes, okay,
the semifinalists were announced for the twenty twenty six class
today and there are two Cowboys on that list as
Darren Woodson once again is a semifinalist and Jason Witten

(42:59):
is also a finalist one of the twenty six.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
So Jerry today on the radio said to me, Jason's
a first ballot player, and I don't believe I'm as
biased or as I should or could be. And of
Darren Woodson, he said, I'm shocked we're having this discussion.
He should have been in years ago.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Was Jerry asked about Jason Witten in the Ring of Honor,
he was not, okay, just curious.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, okay, you gotta make the Hall of Fame face.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Oh, And he was also asked, that's funny except for
there with he was also asked if he could see
any way possible next year that George Pickens is playing elsewhere,
and he said, no, I do not. At this time,

(43:52):
We've got two number one receivers and that's exceptional. And
he also said, when we made the trade, we had
the potential to have both guys on this team. So
he must have read my mix shot last week.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Did he also have an eye on that when he
made the Mica trade. Yeah, that would free up enough
money that he could make a picking straight. Well, there
you go, and then sign him long term and then
make and then make a Quinn William.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
How come we can't have nice stuff?

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Man?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Why come we can't have two of them together? You know?
Why does it have to be one or the other.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
Everybody's on I'm not talking about you, Mick, I'm talking
about I'm talking about CD. I'm breaking switching the subject
to CD and what's going on. But I really, I
mean keeping these two guys together to is you have
to You have to. You gotta keep them together, just
the way that they've been playing.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
And if I start off the game, my first pass
is going to CD.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
That's what I just said this morning on the radio.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, on a podcast.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Give him the ball and you know, get rid of
him pressing to do you think show he can make
up for those drives you take.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
If this bags?

Speaker 3 (45:14):
If this bags? Yeah, it's thinking what do you think
about the.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Spags on Thursday?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Is thinking about the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
First, we got to go to the press conference.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Okay, all right, we all have to go. Then you
go do it for you guys should so you know,
well we can watch.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
We got you in that red yell.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
To it on my way back home. Okay, how about
we do it again tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
About at you want to do that?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Let's do it all right, I gotta make picks.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
We'll make our picks. That's right. It's time review of.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
The Texas two step tomorrow here on Mixed Shots Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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