December 23, 2025 • 48 mins
Merry Christmas to all as we approach Christmas Day, making a point of discussing quarterbacks and their development, how Chargers QB Justin Herbert with no pressure tore up the Cowboys defense, the Cowboys Pro Bowlers, the line moves and the possibility the Chargers, and maybe Denver, where the best opponents the Cowboys faced this year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah.
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This is nick shot streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com
and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
Heckma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Dallas cow Boy Oh man, he would go again?
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Stamp Nay, Why you've shaken your head? It's a Joyful
Christmas Eve Eve edition mix shots. There's nothing but hope
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and joy in the air.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I got woke up with that happy Christmas Eve Eve
and I said, who says that?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
You heard it?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Twice today?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I have heard that you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And we are inside the SWBC podcast studio. There are
not football players on the football field just yet, but
there is football equipment out there. So they're actually going
to hit the field today to prepare for this Thursday
noon game, which you can watch on CBS eleven, CBS
eleven and Netflix at the same time. Ok, how are
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we doing today? As Everson Walls is not here today?
So we've got a Cowboys Super Bowl champion three times over.
Nate and Frisco has joined us.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Hello Nate, how you guys doing just great to see you.
Welcome back to your show. Uh hema, Harrison, glad to
have you.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Well, I'm gonna conduct this like our phone calls.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Man, this is what this isin't gonna be a Podcast's
gonna be a phone call between me and you.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
How about that. We're going to include the other guy.
Yeah it is.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Oh, I could leave now we'll missions.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Like where it's like the old party line.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Yeah, so y'all have a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
If you heard of a party line, heck ma, yeah
back in the day.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Did you ever have to use one?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Yeah? No, say, your mom and dad knew what she
was doing all the time.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
They know that I was going to sneak out today
the party line, Missus Johnson said, Yeah, our party line
was me and Bill and Mickey lived in the same
neighborhood on the same street.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
I can pick up the and listen to Mickey's conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Like if Mickey and Bill are talking, Yeah, okay, there's
only like one loan line, yeah, for the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
Yeah you know, yeah, and you would get on the
line and go, uh, mister Barwick, this is an emergency.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Can you hang up.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Just for a minute.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Tough times guys, everybody knew everybody's business, is that right?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yikes?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And yeah, and you didn't know if someone was listening and.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Not hey quit breathing on hear you? Nah? I never
experienced that, guys, that's doing our government doing it.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
No more about.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Or the days of just one phone in the house.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Yes, that was a terrible thing.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Ours was in the kitchen. Yeah, I remember one time
and it probably was the only time. Some girl calls
me right, and it was like, there was the most
embarrassing thing ever have to talk on the phone in front.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Of the whole family.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yes, yeah, no, well maybe hang up?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well who was that?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Just somebody?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, enough enough about Mickey's love life.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
It's not that was the extent of it.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
And then he married her. Come on, man, that's what happened.
It's high school sweethearts?
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Ever said it didn't happen?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Uh, so we're getting ready for a football game. Yes,
the show goes on.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Though.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I watched a football game last night, and I think
I found a past defense as bad as the Cowboys passed.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Oh please tell me college game?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Did the Indianapolis Colts last? Unbelievable?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But that didn't They didn't show up last night. That
was what a disappointment for them. I mean, and think
about how hot that team started and the colossal collapse
that they've experienced.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Live streat loss and they lose a quarterback. Who's your quarterback?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I mean, that's a part of it. I mean, but
Philip Rivers was a guy that I out. I'm like, man, Philip,
why are you doing this to yourself? Don't come on now, Stavid.
He absolutely he played pretty decent last night. Again, Yeah,
he's probably sore for the next three days after a
game like that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So they're virtually eliminated. They're not totally eliminated.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
So five percent chance? What chance? Hang the hopes on
five percent?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You can't go home yet.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
No, he's still got to finish the season. And that
was the last shoot to fall for the Chargers to
clinch a wild card boards.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, because the bunch of teams clinched because the Colts
lost lost.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, well, you guys, I didn't hear it yesterday. Were
your impressions of the chargement.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And we need to get your impressions.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Hey, did you guys? Did you guys impressed by that?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Mickey Nicky asked the question yesterday which we did not
answer because we started on a tangent. On another stage
that Nicky asked, was that the best team the Cowboys
have faced this year the Chargers, and I would put
the Broncos up there because a team we could argue that.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, I did.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I said this is the best team because not because
they had better athletes, but because they're disciplined and they
have a game plan and they don't get off of
it for nobody. So you face one of the I
think they have four penalties for maybe thirty eight yards
or something like that. This is a very disciplined team,
well coach team, they know what they want to do.
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So yeah, I would say this far as overall team
on unity consistency.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I think this is especially especially considering what they're
missing on their offensive line and what they've been missing
all season on their offensive line virtually all season. For sure,
left tackle they've been missing him all year later, but
also they right tackle Joe Alt since the sixty games.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I think it's a game where you're saying to yourself, like,
we don't have a legitimate shot. From the beginning of
the game to the end of it didn't look like
you were ever in that game. It's familiar with nothing.
I mean, yeah, I did, but at the same time,
it ain't got on the feel yet. So I'm just
saying when in the game versus the Broncos, it never
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felt like to me like the Broncos are one of
those physical teams, the brand that they played defensively, they
just kind of shut you out. And I felt the
same way about the Chargers. So I mean, I think
this neck and neck as far as the performance from
two dominant teams.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
I think the Chargers have the better quarterback. I mean
the Chargers over the bronxnvers.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh yes, yes, yes, this kid is still learning from Denver. Right,
I'm gonna tell you something, but both coaches are hard
on their quarterbacks. They gonna learn, need to learn to
get out they you know, they ain't gonna hold on
to you. So the other kid is younger, both knicks,
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both knicks, but he's not a better pure pastor and
her Herbert Herbert got Yeah, Herber's got arm and he's
been showing that. Everybody's noted that his his toughness is
on display because he's playing with that broken hand. And
you saw a couple of times you know, he took it,
took a hit, and I'm like, he's out, He's gone,
and then he stood right up, went right back to
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the huddle and did it all over again.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Which is what he did the week before.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Okay, enough about the other team. Yes, heck, well what
since we didn't have you here yesterday you were on assignment,
what were your impressions of the weekend in general? Where
Cowboys get knocked out on on Saturday night?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And then with well, we talked so much all week
about ibra Flus moving up to the press box and
what difference that would make, and it was it was
pretty early that he wasn't going to make a difference
at all. Defensively, you just didn't have anything of note
to stop them the past. As far as our secondary
it's concerned, whether it's or digs, you could just tell man,
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especially when the number thirty four is in the game,
they are going to go right at him and whatever
they're picking up on film from him. Herbert made it
a point to make sure that when he had a
guy in the open field, he was going to targets
of own revel. Defensively, whatever scheme has been played all season,
these guys have never gotten the gist of it. Diggs obviously,
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even with his time off, still hadn't got the just
of we see him seeing him gamble on one play
and give up a touchdown. Man, I'm beyond the point
of being embarrassed. You know, it didn't embarrass me anymore.
It's just that, Hey, we just don't have anything in
our secondary of note that can stop anyone, and we're
not presenting enough pressure. And that's another thing that we
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had talked about also all week, is the pressure. You
knew coming in that this Chargers team, they were giving
up a ton of sacks and the fact that we
couldn't get We got close once I think Kenny Clark,
but that was on the line of scrimmage so it
didn't count as a sack. But we just didn't We
didn't pressure him at all, and it was pretty apparent
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early in the game that Herbert was going to have
his way. By the way was that they did pressure him,
but they just couldn't get there, right, you see that.
That's what I'm telling people. They blocked us up. I
saw one time where fifty nine broke loose. He just
didn't closed the deal. They pressured but guys.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Just you know the other thing they did.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
They blitzed.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they didn't get there.
They didn't get there.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Bru It goes back to what I said last week.
You can blitz, but if you don't know how to blitz,
it doesn't do any good.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It's fellas.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
How many Pro bowlers do the Cowboys have.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Defense? Oh? One? Two? And he didn't plum.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yeah, So you can tell me all about scheme. You
can tell me about who playing in the secondary. They
don't have the players to play whatever scheme you want
to play. I'm so tired of hearing scheme? Right, what
are you scheming up front? How many schemes can you
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have in your front to get through the quarterback? You
can blitz, but if you can't get there, that scheme
not working. You can play zone. Well, if you can't
play zone, that ain't working. And if you can't play man,
then what do you do?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
And but wait a minute, though, Mick, you can't give
these guys an outline.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
I'm not giving them out I'm not good enough. It
worked out now, that's okay, little emotion, Okay, where the.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Chargers not better offensive line wise?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
The whole team.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Okay, I'm just talking about the trench. I'm going to
talk about if you don't talk about sending the blitz
and not being able to get home and not finishing
the deal. Guys like Osa Diggie Zool, guys like Solomon Thomas,
Jadavian Clowney who you've talked about. Also, these guys get
paid to do what they do, and so the fact
that they couldn't get home, the fact that they couldn't
get any pressure Mick to me is the bigger problem.
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I mean, if it's a t stunt whatever, you're sending
guys not being able to get home and a quarterback
that could just step up in the pocket and still
deliver to me whatever that scheme is, you're.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Saying that you got to give the charges credit where
credit is due.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
They didn't allow you to get home, they didn't allow
you to get to their quarterback. But that doesn't negate
the fact that these guys are professionally they should be
doing their job.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Well, if you're not good enough to do the job,
how good of a job.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
We're going week to week by saying now that they're
not good enough, because Quinn.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Willis good enough against that team.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Okay, the Chargers were better.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Okay, but the Chargers is a team that we already
know that have been giving up sacks. So it's not
like they came into at and tea. So with this
record of not giving up sacks, this guy has been
getting slacked every week.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think it's married together with what you have in
the secondary. And what I look at is what the
boys are trotting out there at cornerback has not been
up to snuff. And you have when the offense has
answers where a cornerback can't stay with a receiver and
he's getting and so the quarterback's getting the ball out quicker,
it's tougher to get to the quarterback. And I brought
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up Indianapolis, who now they had the thirtieth ranked pass
defense in the league coming into last night's game, and
now they're thirty first after giving up whatever they gave
up to San Francisco. But they're trotting out there Makai Blackman,
Jonathan Edwards, Kenny Moore, and Cameron Mitchell. There was a
reason that they traded for Sauce Gardner earlier in the
year because they didn't have anything at cornerback, and they've
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got the thirty first ranked pass defense in the league.
Sauce Gardner got hurt early on, so he hadn't been
able to help them, and I think that's what the
Cowboys have been doing at cornerback. We saw by virtue
of the news that broke late last week, Deron Bland
going on injured reserve with his foot. He missed the
second and third game of this season with that same
foot injury. Clearly he's been dealing with a foot problem
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the entire season. He hasn't been the same player that
made the Pro Bowl in years past. Trayvon Diggs hasn't
been out on the football field. He was there for
the first six games, wasn't up to snuff health wise,
and then was out for the last eight games. And
he's clearly not the same Trayvon Diggs that earned his
big contract when we saw what we saw on Sunday,
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and otherwise, you got the Cowboys equivalent of Jonathan Edwards
and Cameron Mitchell and these guys out there. And so
it's more difficult for a defensive line to get to
the quarterback when there's answers for the offense in the
secondary and I think that's that's what ibra Flus and
this defense has been dealing with all season long. What
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did you say?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
They were thirty first?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Culture thirty first and past who's the cowboys of thirty second?
Have been all year basically, So anyway, it's I think
it's all married together. And obviously there's things that have
to happen with this defense.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I mean, I guess my thing is is that we're
going to whatever the scape go is going to be.
Evin Flus is going to be whatever it's going to be.
The guys that are out here that are getting paid
to play that can't get to the quarterback, can't present
any pressure, or when they do, they can't seal the deal.
And you have a quarterback that can step up in
the pocket and do his thing. We don't turn around
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and talk about the Osil Diggie Zewis. We don't talk
about the Solomon Thomas's. We don't talk about the guys
that are being paid to do their job that can't
get it done. We don't talk about the linebackers. We
put all of the blame specifically on the coordinator and say, oh,
it's because the guys on the back end are too
bad and they can't they can't hold long enough for
a pass is not to be completed.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Okay, all right, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm not so rich, and I'm not saying that there's
not other factors, but I think I think what I
heard in this conversation going at the beginning was we
can't get to the quarterback. And all I was presenting
was one of the big reasons you can't get to
the quarterback is because you're not covering anybody in the secondary.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
So anyway, you know, Fellas, and I challenge you this
young man, did we did we not see this same
thing in training camp?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You wasn't there? Did you not?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Did you not hear me come to you every day
and say, oh, Fellas, we're in trouble. And when you
got Quinn Williams, who brings constant pressure, it allows Clark.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
To be who to be who he is.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Quinn Williams left out part way through our the last
game before this one and no sacks. Then we went
back to who we were Fellas without Quinny Williams, who
went back to who we were. You know, this Parryon
guy or whoever else, these are just guys. And yes,
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we play, we pay guys to do certain things, and
we pay.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
But fellas, I challenge you.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
When we get out of this season and everybody that
goes to training camp, quit living in your bubble and
start assessing players correctly, not because they have that big
star on the helmet. Start assessing players versus other players
in the league. Don't call me and tell me, hey, man,
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I started a film with the Cowboys in training camp.
No no, no, get you all twenty two and go
to California and watch the Rams.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Get you all twenty two and go see Seattle. I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
We let a guy get out of here. I think
he made the Pro Bowl of Seattle that used to
play for us. Why And I'm gonna tell you why.
This guy made it because he had two or three
other dogs over there and it freed him up to
one on one situations. Last week we didn't have the
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one on one situations. Clowney had to deal with something different.
This guy had to deal with something different depending on
what the.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Past protection was.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So it is a team loss. It is a bad
defense all together.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And whoever you.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Want in a losing situation, you're not wrong. Mickey's not wrong,
and Bill's not wrong. Everybody can pick something.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I can. I can pick something.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I just choose to pick on the whole team defensively,
because everybody had a bad turn on that day yet
of the game, everybody. And you can even go back
to the Minnesota game. Yes, you can go back to
the Minnesota game when you didn't get pressure against JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Theme, and whether it's Quinn Williams in the game or not,
it's still the same thing continuously repeating itself.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
How in the yards did these quarterbacks get? How many?
The thing that.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Quarterbacks come in here and do to us is not
just passed, but a lot of them just take off running.
You know, they take off runs. You know that ain't
small yardage for a quarterback. That's not small yardage for
a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
You know. I tell everybody's right here.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
You need an overall fix for your defense, and we
can each I feel so bad for Revel because he
was part of Here comes the cavary. I feel so
bad for overshown. Here comes a part of the cavalry.
You know, even Quinny william you know his come to cavalry, brothers.
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It ain't no cavalry this year. Is get through this
year and do something about it this off season. Don't
talk about it, don't wait till the eighth week of
free agents. Say hey man, we're gonna go get Noon
off the bench. Now he's around ten thousand dollars, we
can pay.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Him a game.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
No, go out and compete and get some players in here.
But we're lacking player.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's great perspective. Brian Schottenheimer had a press conference yesterday
and he's asked about all these things. Whatever he had,
there were three words he said that I thought were
the most significant words of the press conference. And those
words were, it's year one.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
For all of us, it's year thirty, yeah, okay. For
Dak Prescott it's year ten, okay. But for Schottenheimer it's
year one. And you know, coming off a season last
year where they went seven and ten thirty, first in
the league in points allowed, it's it was a process
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to putting this together. You're and then you went the
entire off season with Michael Parsons on this team. It's
the week one of the season. You're making that trade.
And to think that this defense was going to be
fixed where they could make a deep playoff run was
foolish because it wasn't gonna happen this year. This is
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year one. Now the clock ticks.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I tried. That's been my deal.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
No one wants to admit it. To rebuild. Yeah, it's
been a rebuild here.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That's been my deal since training camp. And I'm gonna
say it again before we go to this break. I
challenge each and every one of y'all stop looking at
the Star, start looking at other players on other teams,
and see what a All Pro look like. Not a
Pro Bowl because they messed up the Pro Bowl this year.
They messed that all up. Look at the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
The all we need to talk about that?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Well, yeah, look at the All pros on other teams.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
How did you know about Quinny Williams on a losing team.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Like the Jets? You knew about him? You know why?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Because he's a different level. That is what you want
to judge your players off of. Don't judge your players
off flow or no.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Come on, brouh Floord.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Not beat somebody deep in our camp and come on
now we get into arguments amongst each other because we
want to miss assess our talent.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Don't miss assess the talent.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
If you keep the talent in this right place, you
won't be judging the coach so hard. Because this man
thought he had an all world defensive end and two
healthy corners when he started, and when this season started,
it all went to hell.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Oh he thought he had two Pro Bowl defensive ends.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
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Speaker 1 (25:29):
All right, very good, Mickey, you got the Pro Bowl
list there? What Cowboys made the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 7 (25:35):
I will tell you which Cowboys made the Pro Bowl.
In the NFC Dak Prescott, George Pickens his first with
career high numbers with two games to go, Tyler Smith
his third straight year. And if I turn over to defense,
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Quinn Williams and then Brandon Aubury.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, so five Cowboys make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Awesome?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
And then I don't think we can sit here and say, oh,
who didn't get a vote that should have in the defense, right?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't think so. No, the two former Cowboys defensive
players as you alluded to, did make the Pro Bowl,
and those are pass rushers Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
The fifth time in Seattle, the people do.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
We loved Lawrence here? Yeah, and his.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Parting shot might have been accurate that everybody got upset with.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
M How do you think about that? You know what,
let's sell something. I don't care when you lead the Cowboys.
I don't care. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I watch great players because that's who great players are.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Who you break your team down on.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Comments. I really don't care.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
You know, a bunch of comments because yeah, we got
a right to field how they want to feel. You
just hate when they come true.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Well, I'm gonna say this because we talked about it
after the NFL. NFL dot Com with their Player of
Preseason voting top one hundred, Dak Prescott was seventy ninth. Yeah,
he was fifteen out of sixteen quarterbacks and he's in
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the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah. Other quarterbacks are Matthew Stafford, Sam Darnold, and Dak Prescott.
In the NFC and in the AFC, the quarterbacks are
Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, the aforementioned Justin Herbert, and Drake May.
There are your Pro Bowl quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
What a season by Drake May? I said, what a
season by Drake May?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:58):
I got that.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
They were asking the Patriots to give up on this kid,
and what a season.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Well, same things happening in Carolina. Yeah, everybody was all
over Bryce Young.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
And Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
And the thing that I know for sure, and it
becomes more and more truer, is get rid of some
of these bad quarterback coaches and these bad offensive coordinators
who just have systems that don't nurture a kid and
don't bring him over the right way. Because your first
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year coming out of college, you know what this kid
can throw well, and what he can't throw well. You
know the things he needed to work on, and if
you're forcing him in there, you got to give him
more what he used to and slowly bring him along,
you know. And I just believe it. I've been saying
for years and years. I don't think I think eighty
(28:55):
percent of the guys that come out that can throw.
I'm about that can throw, there's nothing wrong with them
unless they don't have it mentally. Now you can don't
have it mentally, but most of these kids got it mentally.
And I think it's bad coordinators and bad UH coach
as far as with quarterback, well, and I really believe that.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So look at a handful of them right now, Ben
Johnson and Shinago, what he's done with Caleb Williams this year,
Dave Canalis at Carolina, the head coach there, who is
at Tampa Bay and turned around Baker Maythan his career there,
and what he's done with Bryce Young, Liam Cohen, who
came up in the McVeigh system with the Rams and
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was at Tampa Bay last year, and what he's done
just in the course of this season with Trevor Lawrence
and the way Trevor Lawrence is playing right now, and
of course obviously what Sean Payton has done with bow
Nicks in Denver, just.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
And right there Johnson would golf too.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, prior to that, Ams gave up on him.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
The thing is, all you need.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
From your quarter back is a willingness to study, to
spend time, you know. And I think that is one
of the things where a lot of head coaches and
coordinators mess up at is when they interviewing these kids
and they see all this talent, they don't enforce their will, Like, hey, Mick,
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if I draft you number one and you and my quarterback,
are you willing to commit sixty seventy hours a week?
To what we're trying to do. I'm gonna look you
right in your face because you have to be Remember
the guy used to be the Raiders when it got
into the truble. The head coach with the Raiders, I
can't think of John Grew. That was one of his things.
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You know, it's a rule that we have gotten away from.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
As scouts as coaches.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I need three years of you actually playing football on
a competitive level in college.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Now it's dropped down to two.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Uh for the for the coaches, we need to see
you play twelve games a year to know that you
have least seen competition. Guys popping up by the one
year and you forced to come up here and deal
with multiple defensive fronts with great super talent. That's too
(31:26):
much for a kid, and you're not willing to put
your butt on the line. Instead of you telling your owner, hey, sir,
come on now, oh you gim come on, man, what
we're finna do to this kid?
Speaker 6 (31:36):
See?
Speaker 7 (31:36):
And the lesson right here right If Troy Apen wasn't
so stubborn right to survive those first two years and
then all of a sudden, why did it click in
the third year? North Turner, Yes, this makes a difference.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Makes a difference.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I think the point that you're just making out for
some reason, Baker Mayfield just popped in my mind as
a quarterback that obviously came in had some success but
also had his struggles, and how he's been able to
turn it around and Tampa and I think when you
were just listing out Pro Bowl, I just was thinking
about Dak too. Dak and the success that he's had
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this season, and how he and Shoddy, that marriage between
those two. It's unfortunate forty one hundred yards this season,
two one thousand yard receivers in a thousand yard running
back to not be able to play in the postseason.
But we've seen this before. Not to bring up the
old stuff, but just seeing seeing that marriage between those two,
and how Dak has been so productive this year when
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he's had those years when he's been injured, he hadn't
had his best productive season. I'm the one thing that
I think looking into the future for me is you know,
with aging quarterbacks, the decline doesn't come like it happens
in overnight. It was like and right now this season
I think I felt like I'm seeing Dak play his
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best ball I've seen him play his best ball. How
do you how do you carry that over into next
season and grow from what your quarterback has done before
that actual decline happens to him. And you've seen him
with a ton of great quarterback. Offensive line, offensive line,
offensive offensive line that it ain't but one answer, that's
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offensive line. Dak has played with one receiver for the
majority of his life and a half a tight end.
Get him offensive line. Now that you have two great receivers,
a better than average tight end and a solid running back,
get him an offensive line and you will slow down
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everything you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Don't get him that offensive line.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
He can't keep dodging the way he dodged this year
because now it's catching up with him at the end
of the season.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
So did you like the move of Tyler Smith to
left tackle? And we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
And I debated with everybody. I see both ends, but
you better find out and get you a base. We
don't have a base. And what I mean by that,
we don't have a left tackle. The left tackle, me
and him has talked about this on air. You can
tell the difference when number seventy one for the forty
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nine ers is in there, and when he's not, because
when you got that left tackle for some reason, are
a very dominating center.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
For some reason, everybody plays well, we need.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
A left tackle that can fortify that side so your
quarterback who is right handed, don't have to th worry about it.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Is this kid it we.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Know he's an All Pro pro bowler left guard. Well,
this coach see enough at left tackle to say that's
our man, and we're gonna live and die with this guy.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Are He'll be back at left tackle.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
And we're gonna have to if we're gonna do what
you say, slow down to decline, you got to invest
in another offense lineman, free agent, our draft pick, and
it can be an eighteenth pick. I mean, and you know,
eighteenth round. It got to be a dog. How many
All Pro guards have you seen make the transition to
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be an All Pro or pro Blarry Allen Larry An
there it is. That's the difference.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
We talked about it yesterday, Nate. In nineteen ninety for
those of you who missed the show, like Hekma yesterday, Nate,
Nate said that Jimmy came to him after the nineteen
eighty nine season, said he wants to play. He's decided
he's gonna to play his best five offensive linemen. He
went to Nate and said, we're going to move you
(36:04):
to right tackle. Nate said, but coach, I'm six one.
Did you say they the way you know you play
it to go home? Did you play right tackle? You
get cut? So he played right tackle and he started
sixteen games in nineteen ninety at right tackle. They drafted
Eric Williams in the second round in nineteen ninety one
(36:27):
out of Central State and Ohio, and Nate still started
at right tackle for sixteen games in ninety one while
Eric Williams learned how to play in the NFL and
then he moved back into Garden went to six Pro Bowls.
Nate did, and Eric Williams became a Pro Bowl right tackle.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
So there you go, he said, the right man, though
I mean about I'm just.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
But there is one beyond Larry Larry Allen.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Come on, man, this guy here man, now, how about
how telling about Larry Allen moved from all all Pro
guard out the All Pro left tackle over the all
Pro right guard. I'll moved from a possible All Pro
left guard out to a survival technic.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Right a difference, bro, how about.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
How about this move too, when you're talking about changing positions.
Mark Tuine who's from defensive tackle to the left tackle
and finally got a Pro Bowl towards the end of it.
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Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right, Mickey Spagnola, what do we need to know
coming out of yesterday's press conference? Availabilities Ryan Flinoy. Big
news yesterday was Ryan Flinoy. Yes, his knee injury is
not considered. It's not a major one.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
It's not a ligaments.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, Brain and coach had high praise for ILLINOI.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
Well, I think we can just kind of say he's
the number three wide receiver right now.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Oh man, I gave up on Jaylen Tober just like that. Huh?
Speaker 7 (40:51):
And who else? Who elseize that kid started the training
camp as the sixth or seventh in line at wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Got cut?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Got cut?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Let me let me send out a news flash. Okay
for all y'all, that's finna get Flinoy is our third
receiver he's not CD and he's not George Pickings. Stop
stop right now. Okay, he's our third receiver. We found
a third receiver. Oh you don't want to hear about it.
(41:28):
We make superstars. I'm telling you. I'm trying to stop it.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
And what you're saying, there's business to take care of
to secure the second receiver. Thank you?
Speaker 6 (41:39):
So stop, hey man, he can do it. Stop before
you even start. He cannot do what George Picks do. Stop.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
No one suggested that here, not here.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
I gotta get it out now. I got to get
it out now. It doesn't matter with you preempt what
is it? No, you're not okay, he knows coming. And
you the Pickings man, you gotta been I'm just listening.
You should have been saying, man, better get the picture.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Click? Thank you?
Speaker 7 (42:09):
Do you get anything starts in three minutes?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh wow, okay, you need to get somewhere.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
Uh no, No, Dak Prescott starting on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Day breaking news right okay?
Speaker 7 (42:24):
I think uh Marvi and overshown and guiding her out. Okay,
and all the limited guys have a chance.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Is Quinn Quinn gonna be available? No?
Speaker 7 (42:35):
No, I don't think so. No, no too short of
a week.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
We're gonna find out if all these other people that
a what is they parafew and all of these.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
Very few.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Don't call him sooner?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Come on, because he's made very few plays, very few.
Speaker 7 (42:55):
And James Houston has kind of disappeared.
Speaker 13 (42:58):
Yeah, okay, y'all very few, Yeah, he made very few play.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Come on, y'all pictures click?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Are you playing the game?
Speaker 5 (43:16):
No, sir, I'm gonna stay out of I can't even
pronounce the names.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Everson didn't send in his ever sing.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
Has got other things that deal.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
He's a little ill.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
He's holding on my streat you better shake back ever
get casts.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Everson is old school? What Everson is the pick to sick?
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Yeah? Yeah? All right?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Well, so what are you thinking? Ema?
Speaker 6 (43:41):
I am thinking? Can I go with George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
All years?
Speaker 6 (43:48):
Can I go with George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Bowlers are off limits?
Speaker 5 (43:51):
I want to go to sure think let me go
with George Pickens. I'm going George Pickens. Uh, let's go eight.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
For one hundred and twelve for okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
And how many touchdowns I'm.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Gonna go one. I'm not gonna going to the limb
for two.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
I'm gonna go one, and I got the Cowboys winning
this one. Twenty two to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Twenty two to fifteen. Yeah, all right, what do you got, Mickey?
Speaker 7 (44:17):
I wanted him to pick the date, like twenty twenty five,
twenty five to twelve, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Or twenty five to twenty five tie?
Speaker 7 (44:26):
Yeah, right cause it's twenty five date to the twenty five?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 6 (44:32):
Are you about to pick a time? Now? You about
to do that?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I've got no idea what I'm picking, But.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Okay, I'm just I can go away here.
Speaker 7 (44:39):
I will take Ryan Fillinoy is he gonna play?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
He should have?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, I don't know. Well, why don't we pick one
that's gonna play play for just for fun?
Speaker 7 (44:51):
That just came just helping you out here, came to
my mind.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Right now, I'm gonna go with. I mean, someone who
had an MRI on Monday on Monday is not I'll
be playing Thursday on Thursday? Yeah, uh, well, why don't
you go and let me think about it?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Okay, I got a stat that I'm ana pickup.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
DQ defense is giving up one hundred and forty three
and forty one yards rushing four point eight a carry row.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
So if they go if the Cowboys can rush.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
For one hundred and fifty and five point yards of carry,
you should win the game.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
That's a click.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
Yeah, so Williams Or is it Milik Davis?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I don't care, just jading blue getting any time any Yeah,
I don't soon.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
No, okay, I don't see it all right.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
My pick to click then every few is I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go Malik Davis because of that, because he's
going up against against the dan Quinn defense.
Speaker 7 (45:47):
That can't stop the run.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Uh huh, that's right, and I think, uh stop it
here either m and my score, Well, I've seen the
dan Quinn defense. What would the score last night? Like
forty four to twenty two? Yes, something like that. Yeah, okay,
Cowboys win forty four to twenty two.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Oh my god, I'm gonna take.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
I'm gonna take thirty to twenty.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
How's that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (46:11):
Thirty twenty.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
By the way, I'm the only one who got it
the winner right on Sunday. You know that, who'd you pick? Well?
Who everyone else picked? The Cowboys?
Speaker 6 (46:22):
That's right? Duh the way to go.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Ah, finally I finally got one, right.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Tyler Smith left tackle.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Okay, sacks no sacks?
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Allows?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Okay, is going long day Quinn's defense.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
And as long as he doesn't get any BS holding call,
he'll be the star of the game.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Okay, I like that and Cowboys by one yes right.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
For all you guys that are Rbury fans, I hope
that we get a signifive yard field goal follow y'all
that think Christmas is going to make the different Wow.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay, so Mickey is clearly Mickey is spending Christmas in
our nation's capital. I am okay, everyone else is gonna
have a good Christmas.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
I'll be right here in the studio.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh that's right. So you're doing postgame pre you're.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
Doing your pregame deal at what eleven?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah, but we're taping it tonight.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Okay, you working on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
We're taping it tonight. What are your Christmas plans?
Speaker 5 (47:33):
I'm going to be in a cabin. Oh really, I'm
gonna be in a cabin, man, all right? By roughing it,
roughing it, you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Make a movie.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, the baron got loose. No, no, man with the family. Yeah,
the family.
Speaker 7 (47:45):
Okay, the cabin's not in the backyard.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
No, okay, no, no, they go, they go away. I'll
go to California, y'all going to Colorado. We're gonna go somewhere, man, Oklahoma,
I can follow you. Yeah, man, have a good time.
Mayor Christmas everybody.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
Yeah, May Christmas to everybody listening to us. And we'll
be back on Monday, right.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I think so.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
Yes, Chris has come back. On Monday.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Monday, you're back. Okay, Monday, Monday, we are back. And
so everyone have a very merry Christmas, happy holiday weekend.
We hope you get what you want for Christmas and
we will see you again on Monday.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Cowboys got one. Oh that's right, we eliminate it. Cowboys.
It's day Christmas.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
Cowboys drive to five hundred.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (00:54):
Stamp Nay, Why you've shaken your head? It's a Joyful
Christmas Eve Eve edition mix shots. There's nothing but hope
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and joy in the air.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
I got woke up with that happy Christmas Eve Eve
and I said, who says that?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
You heard it?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Twice today?
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I have heard that you.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And we are inside the SWBC podcast studio. There are
not football players on the football field just yet, but
there is football equipment out there. So they're actually going
to hit the field today to prepare for this Thursday
noon game, which you can watch on CBS eleven, CBS
eleven and Netflix at the same time. Ok, how are
(01:52):
we doing today? As Everson Walls is not here today?
So we've got a Cowboys Super Bowl champion three times over.
Nate and Frisco has joined us.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Hello Nate, how you guys doing just great to see you.
Welcome back to your show. Uh hema, Harrison, glad to
have you.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Well, I'm gonna conduct this like our phone calls.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Man, this is what this isin't gonna be a Podcast's
gonna be a phone call between me and you.
Speaker 6 (02:15):
How about that. We're going to include the other guy.
Yeah it is.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Oh, I could leave now we'll missions.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Like where it's like the old party line.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Yeah, so y'all have a lot.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
If you heard of a party line, heck ma, yeah
back in the day.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Did you ever have to use one?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Yeah? No, say, your mom and dad knew what she
was doing all the time.
Speaker 8 (02:42):
They know that I was going to sneak out today
the party line, Missus Johnson said, Yeah, our party line
was me and Bill and Mickey lived in the same
neighborhood on the same street.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
I can pick up the and listen to Mickey's conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Like if Mickey and Bill are talking, Yeah, okay, there's
only like one loan line, yeah, for the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
Yeah you know, yeah, and you would get on the
line and go, uh, mister Barwick, this is an emergency.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Can you hang up.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Just for a minute.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Tough times guys, everybody knew everybody's business, is that right?
Speaker 6 (03:27):
Yikes?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
And yeah, and you didn't know if someone was listening and.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Not hey quit breathing on hear you? Nah? I never
experienced that, guys, that's doing our government doing it.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
No more about.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
Or the days of just one phone in the house.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Yes, that was a terrible thing.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Ours was in the kitchen. Yeah, I remember one time
and it probably was the only time. Some girl calls
me right, and it was like, there was the most
embarrassing thing ever have to talk on the phone in front.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Of the whole family.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yes, yeah, no, well maybe hang up?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well who was that?
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Just somebody?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, enough enough about Mickey's love life.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
It's not that was the extent of it.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
And then he married her. Come on, man, that's what happened.
It's high school sweethearts?
Speaker 7 (04:21):
Ever said it didn't happen?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Uh, so we're getting ready for a football game. Yes,
the show goes on.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Though.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I watched a football game last night, and I think
I found a past defense as bad as the Cowboys passed.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
Oh please tell me college game?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Did the Indianapolis Colts last? Unbelievable?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
But that didn't They didn't show up last night. That
was what a disappointment for them. I mean, and think
about how hot that team started and the colossal collapse
that they've experienced.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Live streat loss and they lose a quarterback. Who's your quarterback?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
I mean, that's a part of it. I mean, but
Philip Rivers was a guy that I out. I'm like, man, Philip,
why are you doing this to yourself? Don't come on now, Stavid.
He absolutely he played pretty decent last night. Again, Yeah,
he's probably sore for the next three days after a
game like that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So they're virtually eliminated. They're not totally eliminated.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
So five percent chance? What chance? Hang the hopes on
five percent?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You can't go home yet.
Speaker 7 (05:23):
No, he's still got to finish the season. And that
was the last shoot to fall for the Chargers to
clinch a wild card boards.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Okay, because the bunch of teams clinched because the Colts
lost lost.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, well, you guys, I didn't hear it yesterday. Were
your impressions of the chargement.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
And we need to get your impressions.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Hey, did you guys? Did you guys impressed by that?
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Mickey Nicky asked the question yesterday which we did not
answer because we started on a tangent. On another stage
that Nicky asked, was that the best team the Cowboys
have faced this year the Chargers, and I would put
the Broncos up there because a team we could argue that.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, I did.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I said this is the best team because not because
they had better athletes, but because they're disciplined and they
have a game plan and they don't get off of
it for nobody. So you face one of the I
think they have four penalties for maybe thirty eight yards
or something like that. This is a very disciplined team,
well coach team, they know what they want to do.
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So yeah, I would say this far as overall team
on unity consistency.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I think this is especially especially considering what they're
missing on their offensive line and what they've been missing
all season on their offensive line virtually all season. For sure,
left tackle they've been missing him all year later, but
also they right tackle Joe Alt since the sixty games.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I think it's a game where you're saying to yourself, like,
we don't have a legitimate shot. From the beginning of
the game to the end of it didn't look like
you were ever in that game. It's familiar with nothing.
I mean, yeah, I did, but at the same time,
it ain't got on the feel yet. So I'm just
saying when in the game versus the Broncos, it never
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felt like to me like the Broncos are one of
those physical teams, the brand that they played defensively, they
just kind of shut you out. And I felt the
same way about the Chargers. So I mean, I think
this neck and neck as far as the performance from
two dominant teams.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
I think the Chargers have the better quarterback. I mean
the Chargers over the bronxnvers.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh yes, yes, yes, this kid is still learning from Denver. Right,
I'm gonna tell you something, but both coaches are hard
on their quarterbacks. They gonna learn, need to learn to
get out they you know, they ain't gonna hold on
to you. So the other kid is younger, both knicks,
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both knicks, but he's not a better pure pastor and
her Herbert Herbert got Yeah, Herber's got arm and he's
been showing that. Everybody's noted that his his toughness is
on display because he's playing with that broken hand. And
you saw a couple of times you know, he took it,
took a hit, and I'm like, he's out, He's gone,
and then he stood right up, went right back to
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the huddle and did it all over again.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Which is what he did the week before.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Okay, enough about the other team. Yes, heck, well what
since we didn't have you here yesterday you were on assignment,
what were your impressions of the weekend in general? Where
Cowboys get knocked out on on Saturday night?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And then with well, we talked so much all week
about ibra Flus moving up to the press box and
what difference that would make, and it was it was
pretty early that he wasn't going to make a difference
at all. Defensively, you just didn't have anything of note
to stop them the past. As far as our secondary
it's concerned, whether it's or digs, you could just tell man,
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especially when the number thirty four is in the game,
they are going to go right at him and whatever
they're picking up on film from him. Herbert made it
a point to make sure that when he had a
guy in the open field, he was going to targets
of own revel. Defensively, whatever scheme has been played all season,
these guys have never gotten the gist of it. Diggs obviously,
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even with his time off, still hadn't got the just
of we see him seeing him gamble on one play
and give up a touchdown. Man, I'm beyond the point
of being embarrassed. You know, it didn't embarrass me anymore.
It's just that, Hey, we just don't have anything in
our secondary of note that can stop anyone, and we're
not presenting enough pressure. And that's another thing that we
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had talked about also all week, is the pressure. You
knew coming in that this Chargers team, they were giving
up a ton of sacks and the fact that we
couldn't get We got close once I think Kenny Clark,
but that was on the line of scrimmage so it
didn't count as a sack. But we just didn't We
didn't pressure him at all, and it was pretty apparent
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early in the game that Herbert was going to have
his way. By the way was that they did pressure him,
but they just couldn't get there, right, you see that.
That's what I'm telling people. They blocked us up. I
saw one time where fifty nine broke loose. He just
didn't closed the deal. They pressured but guys.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Just you know the other thing they did.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
They blitzed.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And they didn't get there.
They didn't get there.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Bru It goes back to what I said last week.
You can blitz, but if you don't know how to blitz,
it doesn't do any good.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
It's fellas.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
How many Pro bowlers do the Cowboys have.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Defense? Oh? One? Two? And he didn't plum.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
Yeah, So you can tell me all about scheme. You
can tell me about who playing in the secondary. They
don't have the players to play whatever scheme you want
to play. I'm so tired of hearing scheme? Right, what
are you scheming up front? How many schemes can you
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have in your front to get through the quarterback? You
can blitz, but if you can't get there, that scheme
not working. You can play zone. Well, if you can't
play zone, that ain't working. And if you can't play man,
then what do you do?
Speaker 6 (11:28):
And but wait a minute, though, Mick, you can't give
these guys an outline.
Speaker 7 (11:31):
I'm not giving them out I'm not good enough. It
worked out now, that's okay, little emotion, Okay, where the.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Chargers not better offensive line wise?
Speaker 7 (11:46):
The whole team.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Okay, I'm just talking about the trench. I'm going to
talk about if you don't talk about sending the blitz
and not being able to get home and not finishing
the deal. Guys like Osa Diggie Zool, guys like Solomon Thomas,
Jadavian Clowney who you've talked about. Also, these guys get
paid to do what they do, and so the fact
that they couldn't get home, the fact that they couldn't
get any pressure Mick to me is the bigger problem.
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I mean, if it's a t stunt whatever, you're sending
guys not being able to get home and a quarterback
that could just step up in the pocket and still
deliver to me whatever that scheme is, you're.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
Saying that you got to give the charges credit where
credit is due.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
They didn't allow you to get home, they didn't allow
you to get to their quarterback. But that doesn't negate
the fact that these guys are professionally they should be
doing their job.
Speaker 7 (12:29):
Well, if you're not good enough to do the job,
how good of a job.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
We're going week to week by saying now that they're
not good enough, because Quinn.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Willis good enough against that team.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Okay, the Chargers were better.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Okay, but the Chargers is a team that we already
know that have been giving up sacks. So it's not
like they came into at and tea. So with this
record of not giving up sacks, this guy has been
getting slacked every week.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think it's married together with what you have in
the secondary. And what I look at is what the
boys are trotting out there at cornerback has not been
up to snuff. And you have when the offense has
answers where a cornerback can't stay with a receiver and
he's getting and so the quarterback's getting the ball out quicker,
it's tougher to get to the quarterback. And I brought
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up Indianapolis, who now they had the thirtieth ranked pass
defense in the league coming into last night's game, and
now they're thirty first after giving up whatever they gave
up to San Francisco. But they're trotting out there Makai Blackman,
Jonathan Edwards, Kenny Moore, and Cameron Mitchell. There was a
reason that they traded for Sauce Gardner earlier in the
year because they didn't have anything at cornerback, and they've
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got the thirty first ranked pass defense in the league.
Sauce Gardner got hurt early on, so he hadn't been
able to help them, and I think that's what the
Cowboys have been doing at cornerback. We saw by virtue
of the news that broke late last week, Deron Bland
going on injured reserve with his foot. He missed the
second and third game of this season with that same
foot injury. Clearly he's been dealing with a foot problem
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the entire season. He hasn't been the same player that
made the Pro Bowl in years past. Trayvon Diggs hasn't
been out on the football field. He was there for
the first six games, wasn't up to snuff health wise,
and then was out for the last eight games. And
he's clearly not the same Trayvon Diggs that earned his
big contract when we saw what we saw on Sunday,
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and otherwise, you got the Cowboys equivalent of Jonathan Edwards
and Cameron Mitchell and these guys out there. And so
it's more difficult for a defensive line to get to
the quarterback when there's answers for the offense in the
secondary and I think that's that's what ibra Flus and
this defense has been dealing with all season long. What
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did you say?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
They were thirty first?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Culture thirty first and past who's the cowboys of thirty second?
Have been all year basically, So anyway, it's I think
it's all married together. And obviously there's things that have
to happen with this defense.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I mean, I guess my thing is is that we're
going to whatever the scape go is going to be.
Evin Flus is going to be whatever it's going to be.
The guys that are out here that are getting paid
to play that can't get to the quarterback, can't present
any pressure, or when they do, they can't seal the deal.
And you have a quarterback that can step up in
the pocket and do his thing. We don't turn around
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and talk about the Osil Diggie Zewis. We don't talk
about the Solomon Thomas's. We don't talk about the guys
that are being paid to do their job that can't
get it done. We don't talk about the linebackers. We
put all of the blame specifically on the coordinator and say, oh,
it's because the guys on the back end are too
bad and they can't they can't hold long enough for
a pass is not to be completed.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Okay, all right, Well.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I'm not so rich, and I'm not saying that there's
not other factors, but I think I think what I
heard in this conversation going at the beginning was we
can't get to the quarterback. And all I was presenting
was one of the big reasons you can't get to
the quarterback is because you're not covering anybody in the secondary.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
So anyway, you know, Fellas, and I challenge you this
young man, did we did we not see this same
thing in training camp?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You wasn't there? Did you not?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Did you not hear me come to you every day
and say, oh, Fellas, we're in trouble. And when you
got Quinn Williams, who brings constant pressure, it allows Clark.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
To be who to be who he is.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Quinn Williams left out part way through our the last
game before this one and no sacks. Then we went
back to who we were Fellas without Quinny Williams, who
went back to who we were. You know, this Parryon
guy or whoever else, these are just guys. And yes,
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we play, we pay guys to do certain things, and
we pay.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
But fellas, I challenge you.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
When we get out of this season and everybody that
goes to training camp, quit living in your bubble and
start assessing players correctly, not because they have that big
star on the helmet. Start assessing players versus other players
in the league. Don't call me and tell me, hey, man,
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I started a film with the Cowboys in training camp.
No no, no, get you all twenty two and go
to California and watch the Rams.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Get you all twenty two and go see Seattle. I'm serious.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
We let a guy get out of here. I think
he made the Pro Bowl of Seattle that used to
play for us. Why And I'm gonna tell you why.
This guy made it because he had two or three
other dogs over there and it freed him up to
one on one situations. Last week we didn't have the
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one on one situations. Clowney had to deal with something different.
This guy had to deal with something different depending on
what the.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Past protection was.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
So it is a team loss. It is a bad
defense all together.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And whoever you.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Want in a losing situation, you're not wrong. Mickey's not wrong,
and Bill's not wrong. Everybody can pick something.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
I can. I can pick something.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I just choose to pick on the whole team defensively,
because everybody had a bad turn on that day yet
of the game, everybody. And you can even go back
to the Minnesota game. Yes, you can go back to
the Minnesota game when you didn't get pressure against JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Theme, and whether it's Quinn Williams in the game or not,
it's still the same thing continuously repeating itself.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
How in the yards did these quarterbacks get? How many?
The thing that.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Quarterbacks come in here and do to us is not
just passed, but a lot of them just take off running.
You know, they take off runs. You know that ain't
small yardage for a quarterback. That's not small yardage for
a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
You know. I tell everybody's right here.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
You need an overall fix for your defense, and we
can each I feel so bad for Revel because he
was part of Here comes the cavary. I feel so
bad for overshown. Here comes a part of the cavalry.
You know, even Quinny william you know his come to cavalry, brothers.
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It ain't no cavalry this year. Is get through this
year and do something about it this off season. Don't
talk about it, don't wait till the eighth week of
free agents. Say hey man, we're gonna go get Noon
off the bench. Now he's around ten thousand dollars, we
can pay.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Him a game.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
No, go out and compete and get some players in here.
But we're lacking player.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
That's great perspective. Brian Schottenheimer had a press conference yesterday
and he's asked about all these things. Whatever he had,
there were three words he said that I thought were
the most significant words of the press conference. And those
words were, it's year one.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
For all of us, it's year thirty, yeah, okay. For
Dak Prescott it's year ten, okay. But for Schottenheimer it's
year one. And you know, coming off a season last
year where they went seven and ten thirty, first in
the league in points allowed, it's it was a process
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to putting this together. You're and then you went the
entire off season with Michael Parsons on this team. It's
the week one of the season. You're making that trade.
And to think that this defense was going to be
fixed where they could make a deep playoff run was
foolish because it wasn't gonna happen this year. This is
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year one. Now the clock ticks.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I tried. That's been my deal.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
No one wants to admit it. To rebuild. Yeah, it's
been a rebuild here.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
That's been my deal since training camp. And I'm gonna
say it again before we go to this break. I
challenge each and every one of y'all stop looking at
the Star, start looking at other players on other teams,
and see what a All Pro look like. Not a
Pro Bowl because they messed up the Pro Bowl this year.
They messed that all up. Look at the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 7 (21:45):
The all we need to talk about that?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Well, yeah, look at the All pros on other teams.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
How did you know about Quinny Williams on a losing team.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Like the Jets? You knew about him? You know why?
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Because he's a different level. That is what you want
to judge your players off of. Don't judge your players
off flow or no.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Come on, brouh Floord.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Not beat somebody deep in our camp and come on
now we get into arguments amongst each other because we
want to miss assess our talent.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Don't miss assess the talent.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
If you keep the talent in this right place, you
won't be judging the coach so hard. Because this man
thought he had an all world defensive end and two
healthy corners when he started, and when this season started,
it all went to hell.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Oh he thought he had two Pro Bowl defensive ends.
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Speaker 1 (25:29):
All right, very good, Mickey, you got the Pro Bowl
list there? What Cowboys made the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 7 (25:35):
I will tell you which Cowboys made the Pro Bowl.
In the NFC Dak Prescott, George Pickens his first with
career high numbers with two games to go, Tyler Smith
his third straight year. And if I turn over to defense,
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Quinn Williams and then Brandon Aubury.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, so five Cowboys make the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Awesome?
Speaker 7 (26:05):
And then I don't think we can sit here and say, oh,
who didn't get a vote that should have in the defense, right?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I don't think so. No, the two former Cowboys defensive
players as you alluded to, did make the Pro Bowl,
and those are pass rushers Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
The fifth time in Seattle, the people do.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
We loved Lawrence here? Yeah, and his.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Parting shot might have been accurate that everybody got upset with.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
M How do you think about that? You know what,
let's sell something. I don't care when you lead the Cowboys.
I don't care. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I watch great players because that's who great players are.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Who you break your team down on.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
Comments. I really don't care.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
You know, a bunch of comments because yeah, we got
a right to field how they want to feel. You
just hate when they come true.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Well, I'm gonna say this because we talked about it
after the NFL. NFL dot Com with their Player of
Preseason voting top one hundred, Dak Prescott was seventy ninth. Yeah,
he was fifteen out of sixteen quarterbacks and he's in
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the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Yeah. Other quarterbacks are Matthew Stafford, Sam Darnold, and Dak Prescott.
In the NFC and in the AFC, the quarterbacks are
Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, the aforementioned Justin Herbert, and Drake May.
There are your Pro Bowl quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
What a season by Drake May? I said, what a
season by Drake May?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:58):
I got that.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
They were asking the Patriots to give up on this kid,
and what a season.
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Well, same things happening in Carolina. Yeah, everybody was all
over Bryce Young.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
And Caleb Williams.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
And the thing that I know for sure, and it
becomes more and more truer, is get rid of some
of these bad quarterback coaches and these bad offensive coordinators
who just have systems that don't nurture a kid and
don't bring him over the right way. Because your first
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year coming out of college, you know what this kid
can throw well, and what he can't throw well. You
know the things he needed to work on, and if
you're forcing him in there, you got to give him
more what he used to and slowly bring him along,
you know. And I just believe it. I've been saying
for years and years. I don't think I think eighty
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percent of the guys that come out that can throw.
I'm about that can throw, there's nothing wrong with them
unless they don't have it mentally. Now you can don't
have it mentally, but most of these kids got it mentally.
And I think it's bad coordinators and bad UH coach
as far as with quarterback, well, and I really believe that.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
So look at a handful of them right now, Ben
Johnson and Shinago, what he's done with Caleb Williams this year,
Dave Canalis at Carolina, the head coach there, who is
at Tampa Bay and turned around Baker Maythan his career there,
and what he's done with Bryce Young, Liam Cohen, who
came up in the McVeigh system with the Rams and
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was at Tampa Bay last year, and what he's done
just in the course of this season with Trevor Lawrence
and the way Trevor Lawrence is playing right now, and
of course obviously what Sean Payton has done with bow
Nicks in Denver, just.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
And right there Johnson would golf too.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, yeah, prior to that, Ams gave up on him.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
The thing is, all you need.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
From your quarter back is a willingness to study, to
spend time, you know. And I think that is one
of the things where a lot of head coaches and
coordinators mess up at is when they interviewing these kids
and they see all this talent, they don't enforce their will, Like, hey, Mick,
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if I draft you number one and you and my quarterback,
are you willing to commit sixty seventy hours a week?
To what we're trying to do. I'm gonna look you
right in your face because you have to be Remember
the guy used to be the Raiders when it got
into the truble. The head coach with the Raiders, I
can't think of John Grew. That was one of his things.
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You know, it's a rule that we have gotten away from.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
As scouts as coaches.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
I need three years of you actually playing football on
a competitive level in college.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Now it's dropped down to two.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Uh for the for the coaches, we need to see
you play twelve games a year to know that you
have least seen competition. Guys popping up by the one
year and you forced to come up here and deal
with multiple defensive fronts with great super talent. That's too
(31:26):
much for a kid, and you're not willing to put
your butt on the line. Instead of you telling your owner, hey, sir,
come on now, oh you gim come on, man, what
we're finna do to this kid?
Speaker 6 (31:36):
See?
Speaker 7 (31:36):
And the lesson right here right If Troy Apen wasn't
so stubborn right to survive those first two years and
then all of a sudden, why did it click in
the third year? North Turner, Yes, this makes a difference.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Makes a difference.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I think the point that you're just making out for
some reason, Baker Mayfield just popped in my mind as
a quarterback that obviously came in had some success but
also had his struggles, and how he's been able to
turn it around and Tampa and I think when you
were just listing out Pro Bowl, I just was thinking
about Dak too. Dak and the success that he's had
(32:19):
this season, and how he and Shoddy, that marriage between
those two. It's unfortunate forty one hundred yards this season,
two one thousand yard receivers in a thousand yard running
back to not be able to play in the postseason.
But we've seen this before. Not to bring up the
old stuff, but just seeing seeing that marriage between those two,
and how Dak has been so productive this year when
(32:42):
he's had those years when he's been injured, he hadn't
had his best productive season. I'm the one thing that
I think looking into the future for me is you know,
with aging quarterbacks, the decline doesn't come like it happens
in overnight. It was like and right now this season
I think I felt like I'm seeing Dak play his
(33:04):
best ball I've seen him play his best ball. How
do you how do you carry that over into next
season and grow from what your quarterback has done before
that actual decline happens to him. And you've seen him
with a ton of great quarterback. Offensive line, offensive line,
offensive offensive line that it ain't but one answer, that's
(33:30):
offensive line. Dak has played with one receiver for the
majority of his life and a half a tight end.
Get him offensive line. Now that you have two great receivers,
a better than average tight end and a solid running back,
get him an offensive line and you will slow down
(33:54):
everything you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Don't get him that offensive line.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
He can't keep dodging the way he dodged this year
because now it's catching up with him at the end
of the season.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
So did you like the move of Tyler Smith to
left tackle? And we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
And I debated with everybody. I see both ends, but
you better find out and get you a base. We
don't have a base. And what I mean by that,
we don't have a left tackle. The left tackle, me
and him has talked about this on air. You can
tell the difference when number seventy one for the forty
(34:38):
nine ers is in there, and when he's not, because
when you got that left tackle for some reason, are
a very dominating center.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
For some reason, everybody plays well, we need.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
A left tackle that can fortify that side so your
quarterback who is right handed, don't have to th worry about it.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Is this kid it we.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
Know he's an All Pro pro bowler left guard. Well,
this coach see enough at left tackle to say that's
our man, and we're gonna live and die with this guy.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Are He'll be back at left tackle.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
And we're gonna have to if we're gonna do what
you say, slow down to decline, you got to invest
in another offense lineman, free agent, our draft pick, and
it can be an eighteenth pick. I mean, and you know,
eighteenth round. It got to be a dog. How many
All Pro guards have you seen make the transition to
(35:38):
be an All Pro or pro Blarry Allen Larry An
there it is. That's the difference.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
We talked about it yesterday, Nate. In nineteen ninety for
those of you who missed the show, like Hekma yesterday, Nate,
Nate said that Jimmy came to him after the nineteen
eighty nine season, said he wants to play. He's decided
he's gonna to play his best five offensive linemen. He
went to Nate and said, we're going to move you
(36:04):
to right tackle. Nate said, but coach, I'm six one.
Did you say they the way you know you play
it to go home? Did you play right tackle? You
get cut? So he played right tackle and he started
sixteen games in nineteen ninety at right tackle. They drafted
Eric Williams in the second round in nineteen ninety one
(36:27):
out of Central State and Ohio, and Nate still started
at right tackle for sixteen games in ninety one while
Eric Williams learned how to play in the NFL and
then he moved back into Garden went to six Pro Bowls.
Nate did, and Eric Williams became a Pro Bowl right tackle.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
So there you go, he said, the right man, though
I mean about I'm just.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
But there is one beyond Larry Larry Allen.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
Come on, man, this guy here man, now, how about
how telling about Larry Allen moved from all all Pro
guard out the All Pro left tackle over the all
Pro right guard. I'll moved from a possible All Pro
left guard out to a survival technic.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Right a difference, bro, how about.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
How about this move too, when you're talking about changing positions.
Mark Tuine who's from defensive tackle to the left tackle
and finally got a Pro Bowl towards the end of it.
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Speaker 1 (40:22):
All right, Mickey Spagnola, what do we need to know
coming out of yesterday's press conference? Availabilities Ryan Flinoy. Big
news yesterday was Ryan Flinoy. Yes, his knee injury is
not considered. It's not a major one.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
It's not a ligaments.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, Brain and coach had high praise for ILLINOI.
Speaker 7 (40:43):
Well, I think we can just kind of say he's
the number three wide receiver right now.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Oh man, I gave up on Jaylen Tober just like that. Huh?
Speaker 7 (40:51):
And who else? Who elseize that kid started the training
camp as the sixth or seventh in line at wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Got cut?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Got cut?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
Let me let me send out a news flash. Okay
for all y'all, that's finna get Flinoy is our third
receiver he's not CD and he's not George Pickings. Stop
stop right now. Okay, he's our third receiver. We found
a third receiver. Oh you don't want to hear about it.
(41:28):
We make superstars. I'm telling you. I'm trying to stop it.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
And what you're saying, there's business to take care of
to secure the second receiver. Thank you?
Speaker 6 (41:39):
So stop, hey man, he can do it. Stop before
you even start. He cannot do what George Picks do. Stop.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
No one suggested that here, not here.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
I gotta get it out now. I got to get
it out now. It doesn't matter with you preempt what
is it? No, you're not okay, he knows coming. And
you the Pickings man, you gotta been I'm just listening.
You should have been saying, man, better get the picture.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
Click? Thank you?
Speaker 7 (42:09):
Do you get anything starts in three minutes?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Oh wow, okay, you need to get somewhere.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
Uh no, No, Dak Prescott starting on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Day breaking news right okay?
Speaker 7 (42:24):
I think uh Marvi and overshown and guiding her out. Okay,
and all the limited guys have a chance.
Speaker 6 (42:32):
Is Quinn Quinn gonna be available? No?
Speaker 7 (42:35):
No, I don't think so. No, no too short of
a week.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
We're gonna find out if all these other people that
a what is they parafew and all of these.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
Very few.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Don't call him sooner?
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Come on, because he's made very few plays, very few.
Speaker 7 (42:55):
And James Houston has kind of disappeared.
Speaker 13 (42:58):
Yeah, okay, y'all very few, Yeah, he made very few play.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Come on, y'all pictures click?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Are you playing the game?
Speaker 5 (43:16):
No, sir, I'm gonna stay out of I can't even
pronounce the names.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Everson didn't send in his ever sing.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
Has got other things that deal.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
He's a little ill.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
He's holding on my streat you better shake back ever
get casts.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Everson is old school? What Everson is the pick to sick?
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Yeah? Yeah? All right?
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Well, so what are you thinking? Ema?
Speaker 6 (43:41):
I am thinking? Can I go with George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (43:46):
All years?
Speaker 6 (43:48):
Can I go with George Pickens?
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Bowlers are off limits?
Speaker 5 (43:51):
I want to go to sure think let me go
with George Pickens. I'm going George Pickens. Uh, let's go eight.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
For one hundred and twelve for okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
And how many touchdowns I'm.
Speaker 6 (44:03):
Gonna go one. I'm not gonna going to the limb
for two.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
I'm gonna go one, and I got the Cowboys winning
this one. Twenty two to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Twenty two to fifteen. Yeah, all right, what do you got, Mickey?
Speaker 7 (44:17):
I wanted him to pick the date, like twenty twenty five,
twenty five to twelve, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Or twenty five to twenty five tie?
Speaker 7 (44:26):
Yeah, right cause it's twenty five date to the twenty five?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 6 (44:32):
Are you about to pick a time? Now? You about
to do that?
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I've got no idea what I'm picking, But.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
Okay, I'm just I can go away here.
Speaker 7 (44:39):
I will take Ryan Fillinoy is he gonna play?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
He should have?
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well, I don't know. Well, why don't we pick one
that's gonna play play for just for fun?
Speaker 7 (44:51):
That just came just helping you out here, came to
my mind.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Right now, I'm gonna go with. I mean, someone who
had an MRI on Monday on Monday is not I'll
be playing Thursday on Thursday? Yeah, uh, well, why don't
you go and let me think about it?
Speaker 6 (45:04):
Okay, I got a stat that I'm ana pickup.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
DQ defense is giving up one hundred and forty three
and forty one yards rushing four point eight a carry row.
Speaker 6 (45:16):
So if they go if the Cowboys can rush.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
For one hundred and fifty and five point yards of carry,
you should win the game.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (45:23):
That's a click.
Speaker 7 (45:25):
Yeah, so Williams Or is it Milik Davis?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I don't care, just jading blue getting any time any Yeah,
I don't soon.
Speaker 6 (45:34):
No, okay, I don't see it all right.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
My pick to click then every few is I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go Malik Davis because of that, because he's
going up against against the dan Quinn defense.
Speaker 7 (45:47):
That can't stop the run.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Uh huh, that's right, and I think, uh stop it
here either m and my score, Well, I've seen the
dan Quinn defense. What would the score last night? Like
forty four to twenty two? Yes, something like that. Yeah, okay,
Cowboys win forty four to twenty two.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
Oh my god, I'm gonna take.
Speaker 7 (46:07):
I'm gonna take thirty to twenty.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
How's that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (46:11):
Thirty twenty.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
By the way, I'm the only one who got it
the winner right on Sunday. You know that, who'd you pick? Well?
Who everyone else picked? The Cowboys?
Speaker 6 (46:22):
That's right? Duh the way to go.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Ah, finally I finally got one, right.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take Tyler Smith left tackle.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Okay, sacks no sacks?
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Allows?
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Okay, is going long day Quinn's defense.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
And as long as he doesn't get any BS holding call,
he'll be the star of the game.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Okay, I like that and Cowboys by one yes right.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
For all you guys that are Rbury fans, I hope
that we get a signifive yard field goal follow y'all
that think Christmas is going to make the different Wow.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Okay, so Mickey is clearly Mickey is spending Christmas in
our nation's capital. I am okay, everyone else is gonna
have a good Christmas.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
I'll be right here in the studio.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh that's right. So you're doing postgame pre you're.
Speaker 6 (47:18):
Doing your pregame deal at what eleven?
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah, but we're taping it tonight.
Speaker 6 (47:25):
Okay, you working on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
We're taping it tonight. What are your Christmas plans?
Speaker 5 (47:33):
I'm going to be in a cabin. Oh really, I'm
gonna be in a cabin, man, all right? By roughing it,
roughing it, you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Make a movie.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Yeah, the baron got loose. No, no, man with the family. Yeah,
the family.
Speaker 7 (47:45):
Okay, the cabin's not in the backyard.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
No, okay, no, no, they go, they go away. I'll
go to California, y'all going to Colorado. We're gonna go somewhere, man, Oklahoma,
I can follow you. Yeah, man, have a good time.
Mayor Christmas everybody.
Speaker 7 (47:59):
Yeah, May Christmas to everybody listening to us. And we'll
be back on Monday, right.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
I think so.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
Yes, Chris has come back. On Monday.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
Monday, you're back. Okay, Monday, Monday, we are back. And
so everyone have a very merry Christmas, happy holiday weekend.
We hope you get what you want for Christmas and
we will see you again on Monday.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
Cowboys got one. Oh that's right, we eliminate it. Cowboys.
It's day Christmas.
Speaker 7 (48:28):
Cowboys drive to five hundred.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
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