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MADDI spent the media today talk Toledo Hall of Fame.
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Yes, look at it. Let's go.
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And by the way, okay, just to our listeners, no
very church in Toledo Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And was it last week?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We asked Church to bring in something Toledo anything wearing
had got a shirt and nothing, I mean nothing.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
I got you all them nothing tomorrow, I got you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think That's what I'm saying before. He doesn't have
a newer. I don't have prof That's what it did
gott to. Wek new there, but I'm sure body, I mean,
I brought in more Toledo than this exactly. I got you.
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Speaker 3 (03:00):
So Toledo Hall of Famer Barry Church and Toledo Hall
of Famer Cawboy's defensive coordinator Matt Even the meeting today
and talking about well, they're still working to find an
identity and changes he said will be subtle. Quote, whenever
your performance has been inconsistent or not to the standard,
you look at everything. Nothing is off the table. Keep working.
The solutions are in the room.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
All right.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
So if nothing is off the table, if nothing is
off the table, we're we're throwing everything we have at
this dark board. You you would think they would try
to put a little bit more man into the situation.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Like we all understand.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Like zone coverage, I mean, that's that's his that's his
staple piece, that's his you know, he loves to have
everybody vision on the quarterback. He believes that's you know,
how you get turnovers in the secondary. And I get
all that, but we've seen it's a six week sample
size right now. Zone it ain't really working when you
come to this defense right now. I understand it would
be a lot better if you had a pass rush.
I get all that, but the zone ain't really working
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right is that all that's all they be. It's in
the stats bro that that it's hundred it's like ninety
eighty five ninety percent zone, So it's it's a huge
sample size of zone.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
So you would think maybe a little bit more Man
might might a little.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Anyone asked for me, you hit what you say in
the beginning of that though the rush okay, got past,
and I get it, I get it.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
But but right now that the rush zone at work,
what about the coverage like the customers, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
It's been your philosophy.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I feel like the few times that it has been
man like, it's been bombs over bad Dad, but.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
We know it's been bombs over back Dad with zone like.
That's that's that's that's that's an known fact right now
looks like.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Man within the zone, man to man or whatever dang
covering they've had. And and I haven't I haven't seen
the numbers that you've seen it. So you know what
the rate of you know, zones compared to man is.
But at the end of the day, it's still boils
down to you making the play man.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Now, that's facts.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
That's it still boils down to that and your pride
as a player too as well.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
So Nick, Nick Harris before we'll start telegram tweeted out
a picture of the dB group and he says, uh,
you know practice today that started.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The corners were running through man press techniques. There we go,
there we go. Maybe just switch up the philosophy.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
That's what I was out there Washington, and they something else.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
So Trayvon Diggs is you.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Know, I hope it works. Asked for this, he asked
for he.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Brought it up, and.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Can they do something? All right? And you you know,
like I know, okay, if you want to play man
and Diggs likes to play a lot of press man
too as well. Diggs is a long corner who never
actually uses his hands when he gets impressed man, and
he and and he never touches anybody you're defeating. You're
taking all of your your great intangibles away from what
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from from game, all right, And then you get down
there and you want to turn everything into a foot race,
and you're clearly not as fast as a lot of
these guys are. So well, and I've seen dudes. I
played with a guy named Chris Dishmond who was never
a fast corner and I watched what he would do
it to Jerry Rice or anybody that came up against him.
So when your technique is pure, he'll tell you, like,
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I know your technique is pure. It can't be stopped.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Was a street fighter too, hey boy?
Speaker 6 (06:27):
He was, he was.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
He was a technician, toll you. But he mixed it
up with you, Chris. He was not exactly he was
street fighting now that one boy he got down.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yes, facts and so all day long for you.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
And so I'm old school with it, you know what
I'm saying. Like what it boils down to, It's like, Okay,
I might not want to play this, but this is
what I got to play right now. This is what's called.
And so for me, I got to do with what
you know. It ain't about me. I can't play for me.
I gotta play for us.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What us is doing right now is giving up two
hundred and ninety six five yards game, dead last in
the NFL when it comes to passing. That is what
the Boys defense is doing right now, giving up thirty
point seven points a game, thirty first in the league.
So what they're doing and trying to look at different
things on the table, you know, good because what they've
been running has been embarrassing. When you're getting drilled and
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the offense is doing its part. The offense is averaging
twenty nine points seven games. If somebody runs out there
thirty points you in this league, you should be able
to win these games, and they're not.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Is it more?
Speaker 7 (07:37):
Did we put what's the onus? We're putting on the players?
That's what I was about to say, the percentage you're
putting on there.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
So I'm gonna say this. I set up in here
and I listen, see y'all big up coach Eberflus.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
For weeks he is see that, he that he gonna listen,
he gonna do this.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
He goes now now yeah now it's like y'all don't
even look at him the same way.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
No more. Right now, I did say that that that
might be him, But I've been saying for a weekend
and week out, like you said, it's the players. Like
I still stand by what I said by ebra Flus.
He's smart, he's gritty, he's gonna do what he needs
to do. And even then he's still a team guy.
Like if he's not a man guy, but he's sitting
here saying, hey, I'm gonna run a little bit of man,
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I'm going to incorporate this. I'm going to try to
switch up the terminology and maybe do one worded cause
like he's a people of the man but trying to
stay up here to his own values and stuff like that.
And in a sense, you're handcuffing him just so he
can keep the locker room or keep the players. You're
doing all this and changing yourself. So for me, I
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still stand by Flutes. He's doing what he's been doing
right now. Schematically wise, he's there. But like you said,
it's the players. Like when you ask what is the percentage,
I'm gonna say it's seventy thirty players. Like when it
comes to players out here, yes, schematically, some people got
to put us in the system. But if you're smart enough,
you go out there, you work hard enough, you're gonna
make a play eventually going to get there. And that's
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why I say I don't care about playing a little
bit more. Man, I don't care about the blitzes and
the past rush is like, yeah, you do that, but
in a sense close this door and say, hey, defense,
when are we going to play? And I don't see
that from nobody. All I see is excuses.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
That's all I'm here.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Somebody said, pride, where's the pride at?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Yeah, that's true too.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You gotta play for the minute the name on the
back of your jersey.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So they are trying to do something as they get
ready to host the Washington Commanders here. The Commanders are
three and three football team. The Cowboys are two, three
and one. I sent you guys the listed. The Cowboys
have the toughest schedule the rest of the way. Okay, Cowboys,
it's hard.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I had the toughest schedules the rest of the way.
The Cowboys are one, Minnesota is two, Philadelphia is three,
Washington is four, the Giants are five, and the Cowboys
are facing all of those teams. They got games against two.
One game in December on Sunday night football against Minnesota.
Don't they're going to keep it another game against Phillity.
They that quick, They're gonna wait.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
This.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I got to ask Hall of Famer since I worked there.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
First off, they do everything they can and not flex.
The Capital Cowboys a great range.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
But come December, between Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And the Cowboys, if there are no hopes of playoffs,
they're gonna get off of it.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
If there's a chance a sniff that a player that
oh they're technically still in it, they will do the
best they can. They did that one year and the
Cowboys are still kind of hanging on by a thread.
Played the games and the Cowboys got out of it.
But you know, they got the ratings. So the Cowboys
give fantastic ratings, win, loser, draw. But Minnesota without your
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boy McCarthy possibly not being there, if it's Carson Wentz
and is and it's going down here, wait to see.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
But I just just Inmber fourteen, it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's it's a strong possibility at this point in time,
I would say it's a strong possibility.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Is it more predicated off of the Cowboys or like say, Minnesota's.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
And Cowboys, it's the cat.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
If Minnesota could be not win another game, as long
as the Cowboys keep winning, it's still going to be
on TV.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Basically, as long as the Cowboys are in the playoff hunt,
they're going to do what they can to air the game.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
That is what that that is what they do.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
And then if the Cowboys are good and they've got
any reason to put flex the Cowboys into a Sunday
game like one year when they.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Faced Jameis Winston Company.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And then the Bucks were still in it, and the
Cowboy they added a fifth one, uh, the fifth fifth postseason,
I mean a fifth on because you're only allowed three
on Sunday Night football. But they yeah, they kicked in
a fourth when and then the Cowboys made the playoffs
and that was on NBC. So it's five NBC games
and so they yeah, so flex flex, you can do
whatever you want. Know, when the regular season comes out,
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when they release their schedule, you're not gonna see a
team on more than three. That's your limit. But come
flex time, they get to nbccts to do what they want.
And if the Cowboys are good, they go get them
because the ratings are always there. Love them or hate them,
they bring ratings. They're like raw is war. Okay, they go,
they put them up there, they're they're fine. And but
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December right now, I would tell you I'd be might
be at twelve o'clock this.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Week though, But but this week you gotta get this
dumb this, will you?
Speaker 6 (12:30):
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Speaker 4 (12:33):
They got it? They gotta they gotta change. No no, no, no,
I gotta anybody got everybody.
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I was like, man, I used to always ask you
to go get an icy and she said, no, son,
it's a slurpy And I'm just like, bro.
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she get it for you.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
Man. She used whatever I mean, I was, what do
he said? Damn if you do, Damn if you don't.
This is what it is.
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Speaker 4 (16:49):
Man, Church, Mister Church had something. What's more settled with exactly.
It's just like, I don't know what you guys talking
about something. Church. You were saying something before the break.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Yeah, I was saying, yeah, man, confidence in this week's game,
Dallas Cowboys Washington.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Commanders, and you get it.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
You are getting well if you know everything works all
in practice, you're getting CD Lamb back into the bar.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Yeah, it was a picture of CD and Shotty together.
He was out there doing this thing, running around to
all that good stuff.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
So you're getting CD Lamb back to an already explosive offense.
This is another week with Tyler Smith back in the lineup,
all right, So the offsive line is jelling once again.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
They so you know, I mean, offensively, I'm not worried
about it. Defensively, you know, you're going against.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Jaye Dames, one of the most dynamic quarterbacks in the
National Football League. There are also reports out there that
they may get scary Terry McClory back into the lineup.
He's missed the past three games, but we all know
how that is with rust and all that good stuff. Overall,
my confidence level on the Dallas Cowboy was winning this
ball game.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Brown seventy five eighty percent.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Seventy five eighty You don't I even believe that they're
not They're not stopping the.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Coda Rane, Prescott, ce Lamb, George Pickings.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
But they gotta shut I hope you hit They're gonna win.
To shoot up.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
You said if they have to shoot out. You forgot
to mention about those two running backs back there that's.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Doing there, talking about the ones I was fumbling last week.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
You're talking about you're talking about the defense that over here.
Maye Brees Hall like, if you don't want to.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
Wee what you do that, you're gonna be firing out.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
We'll come back out there, come back eighty eight and
out the gate.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
It's not like therese some scrubs over there, those young
up and coming guys that are learning from them. Wins
Man as I said, effishing efficient.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Worried about his pocket. That's why you know he don't
want to come out of his podcast.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
So what what's your confidence? And the Commanders winning this
ball game? And this this Commander's team winning this ball
game coming up. I'm gonna do the opposite of what
you said.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
I'm like, you're eighty percent leaning towards George Washington.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
I am, unfortunately, because it's not the offense, like you said,
it's the defense that we're all worried about. Are they
gonna come out, are they gonna make adjustments? And then
for you to just switch something. So abruptly and say hey,
I'm letting it know we're gonna be doing Man, I'm asking,
are you really doing this or are you trying to
fake them out? So, yes, I'm worried about the defense.
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But most importantly, besides we know the big X factor
is the defense. I don't care what you say. I'm
worried about this offense. The office is doing what they've
been doing. But to incorporate another superstar, are you gonna
force feed them? Like? What is this dynamic's gonna look like?
Right now? Your number one guy that has been holding
you down is obviously before he does what he does.
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But the number one weapon see or has been picket
How is that gonna look for that? So for me,
that makes me a little nervous. Are they still gonna
be as potent? Because now when you're trying to force
feed somebody, it's like, hey, you're taking away from the
guy with the hot end and trying to get this
guy that's coming off of injury first week back against
another offense that you're saying, hey, we're going to do
(20:09):
a shootout with You know how it is when you
get behind that eight ball.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
So it's basically a darn near tossile game with Vegas
has this right now. So what's the spread or the
one I've seen is a point and a half for Washington's.
But it's it's fluctuates spending on who you go to ceedee.
Lamb's coming back. Talked to Tyler Booker earlier this week.
Right guard he's expected.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
To be back.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
He didn't.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm looking at the injury be fort right now. He
didn't practice yesterday, so.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
He said, leave it up to the training staff, and
so he's he could be back. He talked about turping.
Jerry's already cleared them off. You already and Tuesday, Tuesday,
doctor j Let everybody know, you know, expecting.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Game is right, he said, all hands on deck. I
don't care.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So this is the you guys know the division game here,
This is a division game.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Gotta win the game at home. Uh.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
The Cowboys have played good here, you know, they have
played well.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Beat beat Russ Wilson and the Giants in overtime, took
Micah and company on Sunday Night Football in the overtime.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
So here, okay, so far they'll be in the game.
They're gonna be in the game.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
And at this point in time. You kind of look
at the Carolina game. If this bad defense, if you
can just hang around here in the fourth quarter, see
what you can do.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Hey, you're gonna be You're gonna be at the game too. No,
you ain't gonna beat there. You said they it's a
lot of people gonna be in the game.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Where is they gonna win and go to Arizona?
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Okay, I go to Arizona.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
But what's your confidence? Really, you're playing pretty neutral right now.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
You have no confidence with this defense. I mean you
really can't.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean they can go out here, perform well like
they did against Green Baint and come out head, lay
down and get punching them out and roll over like
a two dollar hook like they did up there against
Carolina's Rico sitting up there telling you.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
You know, buckle up, cheap, cheap two dollars. I mean,
my god, no, frid five dollars, but damn five make change.
This is embarrassing.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
I was.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
That was just embarrassing. I don't know what I'm gonna get.
You don't know what you're gonna get. They don't know.
They don't know. So he can sit up here.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Hey, many working out man concepts Okay, you're working on
it now, but you get out there, it does it work.
So they're they're throwing they're throwing up straws against If
they throwing things against the wall.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
To see what works, you will see.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Let me let me follow up and ask you this
question then, since we all know everybody keeps saying this
is the defense and this is what the game is
gonna come down to. Is your confidence more in eber
Flus coming out here and making these adjustments and getting
them right schematically, or is your confidence more within the
players to say, hey, they're gonna take a sense of ownership,
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like who who do you have more confidence going in
to get the problems fixed this week?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
The players?
Speaker 3 (23:04):
At some point I had to have some pride you guys.
You three played the game. I didn't play the game,
all right, you know, Barry Church to Montree More and
Anthony Will. You guys played the game. So after an
embarrassment performance like this where dude you used to play
with told you to buckle up, went for two hundred
plus total yards for a franchise record of Carolina, you
on TV giving up a whole drive at six or
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seven to go, do you respond and you come home.
You know, you got your family coming to the game.
You know, got tickets fed by because you know they
gonna want to come because this is what the second,
the third now game, So you know, hey, we're flying
in that that that that the necond game.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Next game is not till till next month. Brothers is
coming in. All the former Cowboys will be.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
That's the Cowboys legend. Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I don't know, you know, stop.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
If you know, like I know, it's cracious. Man. Hey man, everybody,
everybody can't be a dirty mac church out was wild
but here.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
But by the way, Terry McLaurin not in practice, man,
I hope he stays.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
On the side.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
But when the game is it's just close. This fit
is a toss up. It is the tend to lean
towards who has the better quarterback. Right now, I say
Dallas's the better quarterback.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
You don't lean towards the better quarterback. And you got
a young, spazy guy you got why would you? Quarterback
league defense don't win championships. A quarterback league defense don't
win the championships. I'm a defensive player. I'm looking at
the defense. I look at DQ and them defense.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Carolina have a better quarterback. I mean, Dak Prescott did
all he could do.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
He did exactly. That's what That's what I'm saying. So
his statement about the better quarterback winning, it's.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean, with this defense, you know clearly we're seeing
Dak's not perfect. But look the way he's playing right now,
it don't matter.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
He's playing well.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Eleven touchdown he's got past three games, past three games,
eleven touchdowns over andrey yards passing and one interception.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Dude is doing all exactly. And that's what I'm saying.
Barry statement was in the game that's disclosed. The better
quarterback wins. Last week when we all were talking about this,
we said that the Panthers are more They're closer team
than what you think if you're looking like that. So
they have proven time and time again already this season
that they have lost the close.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Battles if they got the ball, if the cabin ended, yes,
to have the ball. But with George Pickings out there,
I would tend to go.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
I would love to too. But you know that we've
seen we've seen a nominally last week, a six minute drive.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Exactly like how many you go in six minutes?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Fix it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
But it ain't just it ain't just fixing it.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
And this week they're gonna fix it.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Stop digging them.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Last week it was trying to fix it. This week
they're gonna they making it.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
They changed it up.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Man, nothing off the table, but the answer is in
the room.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
Remember that legedly do that?
Speaker 4 (26:07):
All right? Man?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
Hey, so I'm looking at this. I know Jerry already
said they playing, but it said CD didn't practice yesterday.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Actually, but today see the picture him and CD didn't
practice yesterday. He was limited in practice. Okay. Injury report
says Booker was also limited in practice.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
I don't I don't need to see an old linement
in practice. I'm good and confidenting them going into the weekend.
But that receiver, I need to see you doing some cutting.
I need you out there high ankles. I need to
see you getting busy what he said. I don't need
just to who first period warm up? No, I need
to see his coach say a good sweat and leather
out there, sir. I need you to be game like.
(26:48):
We gotta see this because that's the closest you're gonna get.
We know you the superstar. We know people gonna hit
you with the two hand touching. Let you go by
and practice, Like really, he gotta do some dog work
for me to feel that confident. But like you said,
when you have George doing what he's doing, I'm not
forcing him to do all.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Just him being on the field should open up it
so much more for this offense. I mean, if you
look at that Carolina tape last week, he saw exactly
what they were doing to stop this the run game.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
They had that extra safety in the box all day.
Every day.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
They had that extra safety sitting in that box unblocked,
and they were able to, you know, contain.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Javonte will you and that front four good?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (27:24):
I mean Brown and I forget the other guy's name,
but they got some dogs up there.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
But when you add a CD lamb into this package, man,
I mean it's like pick your poison.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
If you're going to put that safety in the box
and lean one guy towards CD, then George Pickens will
be one on one.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
We see what he can do. You lean them towards Pickings.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
You got CD.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
So it should open up so much more for this offense.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
I get it. They'll open up because se CD is
a Pro Bowl player that he is, but it is
the office not already opened up enough. You got George Pikett,
you got Jason Ferguson, who is one of the top
producing tight ends out there right now doing what he's doing.
Besides this bad weekend from Javonte Williams. He's the number two,
if I'm not mistaken, it was. So it opens it up,
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But how much more does it over what.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
They're gonna So we're going hold on off with CD
coming back? Or is the scheme going change?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Now?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Are we going to go from a balance scheme to
now we're gonna try to throw sixty passes a game
because he's back in here and and something like that happened.
So like when when you say it's gonna open things up,
I mean to an extent, it's going to do something.
But unless the Cowboys are about to change their whole
game plan and what they've been doing and being balanced
as they've been up until this point, a whole lot
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ain't gonna change. It's just gonna be balls going to
a different side of the field instead of all going
over here.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Thing is the same thing you got you Let's let's
go to the Jets game.
Speaker 7 (28:47):
When Ceede Land was out and you had Pickens over here,
and Ryan Fanoy went had whatever eleven targets, nine receptions,
and Pickens only had those two. He had the one
long touchdown and then he had another slant catch. Now
you're telling me you put CD Lamb in that Flinoy
role and you give him the eleven targets or whatever
the case may be, that offense isn't even more explosive,
(29:08):
like Florida was able to go out for one hundred
and fourteen yards and your safety has to operate.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
And you said, yeah, exactly, like it's just it's just
like you don't have to go ahead and switch.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Summon. And how many did George have that game?
Speaker 4 (29:21):
He had a couple of targets, but card now he
has he had.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
The number one quarter.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Okay, I'm saying the league where we're still talking about
the number of targets. How many targets did he get
that day? How many yards did he have?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
Two? Three?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
But also Javonte Williams was going to cross but still
but you see where the ball went to. It went
to one dude, And before CD got hurt, that ball
was going to one dude. George was barely getting any targets.
So they've shown you what they do. The ball is
going to go to one dude and the other dude
is not gonna be even in.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Go back to the Giants game, that wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
So the first the first game, that was the case,
and you had SHOTTHEIMRI even talk about, Hey, that was
my fault. I've got to find ways to get George
the football more Against the Giants. In that game, Cede
Lamb had eleven targets, Jake Ferguson had twelve targets, and
Pickings had nine. So that's what that was the last
time that CD had played a full game with it.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
So when it goes to opening up, I'm thinking about
something like that or going back to something that it
was before. I'm not I'm not picturing something like beyond
what we've seen and where I say they go to
throwing the ball forty to sixty times a game. You
know what I'm saying something like that.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
You know, that's what when I was saying open it
up the offense, I guess when I asked you that
counter question, I was more so alluding to the fact
that now you do have more weapons, like do we
it's flnor proven enough to say, hey, like you're not
the main guy, but like you're solid two or three.
You got Pickings out here that has solidified himself as
a Oneonte as a one. Yeah, he's a fourth option
(30:50):
one CD comebacks. But when your fourth option is this good,
it's like, does it open it up more so just
because CD's coming in there, or because of the productivity
that they've already established amongst theirs.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
I think it just gives you more like you can
have different styles and in different fights.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
In that situation, you can go out there and say,
all right, y'all, y'all want to shut down Javonte Williams,
all right, we got this slewer receivers out here, all right,
y'all playing often, y'all want to take away the passing game. Well,
that lightens the box for Javonte to get busy. So
I just think it give you a different style.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
You mentioned some of those very different styles make different fights.
I mean that Carolina, their front four was just pushing.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
The Cowboy they destroyed it.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
They were pushing them back and whatever tape they saw
the Jets have and they We're gonna do this this
and attack the Cowboys in front. They did a very
good job. So it's a week to week league. Let's
see exactly how these matchups all work when we come back.
Dak Prescott up for an award right now, Let's see
if he might be able.
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was talk about McLaurin returning to help spark this offense.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
That has not done so well without em.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
He's been dealing with a quadricepts injury and he's missed
the past three games. You guys, uh, stay on a
bench and as we say, tell, tell, tell our listeners
for a what a quad means for a wide receiver. M.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
I have never had one myself, but I would imagine
that the explosiveness, the start and stop and suddenness that
you use you, you know a lot of that quad
muscle for has got to limit you in some way.
If you're looking at a receiver, it's not always just
a straight line dash. You know, you're making cuts in
and out of cuts. You're trying to get away from
these wide receivers and create separation. So if you have that,
(35:33):
especially if it's on your dominant leg, your cut leg
where you create the separation, if you're hampered in that way,
it's got to limit the functionality of a wide receiver
OUTO when I can speak for I've had.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Two quad surgery where I've torn surgery. Yeah, quad surgery
where you have to repair the media quad coming right
over the knee that contracts it. You don't realize until
you have one of those injuries how much your quad controls.
Like your quad not only controls like your explosiveness, your
power jumping and stuff like that. This depending on which
part of the quad you injury is controlling that knee
(36:05):
right there when you go in, when it's going in
and out. If you're going to get an ncl a
cl to like, it's the small things you don't realize
how much it is. And for a receiver like you said,
they have to be explosive at the drop of a diamond.
It's like a Porsche like or drag racing. You have
to be ready to get up at that top speed
and to be that type of explosive player like itself.
That nagging injury, if it doesn't heal up, it could
(36:28):
still be there and tend to linger like I still
get even when my quad was hell. I did rehab
and stuff like that. If I didn't stre stretch enough
or do or hydrated enough like all that plays a
component in it. So it's a lot longer.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
I've had a thigh bruise before. I've never had anything
like that, and I know, you know us taking the
paths out. Yeah, so I got a face mask to
the thigh one. And let me tell you something that
that it took weeks for it to heel. First of all,
the knot that comes in there and the bruised. It
stays in there. Man, it's it's it's a lot of pain.
(37:03):
But to have some type of surgery go through that
thing and tear it up and you can.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Fight, you can fight through it. You get p RP
shots and all that. So even that's still that is
a lingering. It's like an ankle quitting bet.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Online.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
They've got their their updating the NFL Awards, So going
into this week for the m v P, Baker Mayfield
is now the new favorite, going from eight to one
to two to one.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Patrick Mahomes is in second, while Josh Allen goes to third.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
What what.
Speaker 7 (37:34):
I feel like he gets Maybe I'm, you know, reading
too much into this, but I feel like he gets
a lot of big time past man.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I respect I respect Josh Allen being on that list
more than Patrick Mahons on that list right now. Like
I don't. I'm just saying as far as a winning
team doing this, Like yes, pat Dree Mahomes is who
he is, they the only thing they have over there
with the Chiefs. But it's like, come on, brother, you
talking about top three right now, Like you didn't say
(38:04):
there's so many other people right now? That's changing.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
They like Dak it's just falling under Joe Burrow like
last year. Well you want the list, okay, I want
I want the list.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Riking owt for three.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Okay, Baker Mayfield, Patrick Mahomes two, Josh Allen three, followed
by Drake may Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones,
Justin Herbert, Sam Darnold Yet and what I'm talking about
and tied for eleventh with Aaron Rodgers is Dak Prescott
a fifty to one along with Jaylen Daniels and Lamar
Jackson are number one.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
Been in Dallas too long? Maybe maybe I don't know
football no more. Maybe maybe my view is I'm getting
used to seeing water down and no that boy is bawling, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
It's it's it's early.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
I'm just it's early.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
This this is what it is, all right.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
For Defensive Player of the Year, Nick Benito is the
new favorite, followed by eight eight. Hudginson went from first
to third. Brian Burns has gone from forty to one
to twenty to one. Trey Hendrickson was fifty to one.
He's dropped down all the way to one hundred and one.
And Fred Warner is now off the board. Yeah, Fred
Warner off the board. So your top four candidates for
(39:12):
Defensive Player of the Year Nick Benito, followed by Michael
Parsons at three to one, eight Hutchinson, Miles Garrett then
of course following him as t J. Watt All right
up there. Coach of the Year Shane stikeen is the favorite.
Liam Cohen, Your boy has gone from first drop down
to third?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
What keep his name out? John Mount?
Speaker 5 (39:31):
Who is he coaches?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Give his name? Who was the first person who Shane
stike is a coach?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Coach Brian day Ball went from one hundred to one
to twenty eight to one. Raheem Morris is up big
time from seventy five to one to thirty three to one.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Day Boughton went up, Yeah boy, Ye scatteratimboy and.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Dark Mill.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Eric Aaron Glenn's falling from two hundred and one to
seven hundred and fifty to one.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
Who was that Aaron? He's falling down?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Offensive Rookie of the Year Jackson Dart is a new favorite,
passing a Mecca Obuka and but Nelly scamp Camp'scataboo went
from thirty three to one to nine to one.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, waves, man, what are we doing just because you
could do a back lip? Me do some way anything?
Come on, man, and Mecca ba is going off this year.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
But you also got to remember the market. I told
you what I'll be saying. That market does not Raizy
factor into market.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Defense in New York.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Wow, defensive player, yes, default so Defensive Player of the
Year Abdual Carter the Giants has remains a favorite, but
Jeha Campbell is a close second. Offensive Player of the
Year Jonathan Taylor is now the favorite. Pooka Nikoua goes
from first drops down to fourth, Jackson Smith and Jigma
goes from sixteenth to nine to two odds, Josh Jacob
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sixty six to one to thirty three to one, and
Saquon Barkley falling from thirty three to one to fifty
to one. Your comeback Player of the Year in first
place right now according to bet Online is Dak Prescott
five to two odds, followed by Christian McCaffrey, Aiden Hutchinson
and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
So there's going to be the guy. I think his
competition is gonna be.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Jones, Damiel Jones. Wait, what's the award again.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Come back player.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
You can come back from anything, come back from injury, contract, from.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Just getting bench. You have it being there. I thought
it was injured. I thought you had I thought get injured.
He wasn't even playing.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Right now they put it he was back. Remember he
went from starting at fourth stream in Minnesota.
Speaker 6 (41:35):
I think I thought that was the injury award. My bet.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
That Dak Prescott is up for that.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
But you're offen to play you by the way, right now,
Jonathan Taylor uh is in the lead, followed by.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
B John Robinson's cool. By the way, he's he's number two.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Then Smack Jackson Smith and Jagba Pooking the coopl Christian
McCaffrey and my ros Saint Brown and there are no
cowboys on it.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
I just can't this guy to being bro first, don't respects.
He's been doing his thing consistently. Now Jackson Dark, he
just got in the mix, like what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Former giant? Thank you?
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Thinking here we go.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
This is crazy.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
Everybody's talking about him and he's making powerful running backs
popular again, did he?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
He ain't got caught yet, Bro ain't exactly because he's
been delivering. It's going over a hundred yours.
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yet in the game, that's what I was, and I'm
just like, how.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
You hey man, Let's let's trade carry the flag. He
dropped his JJ McCarthy flag.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Injured that it was.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
A great place in the show.
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It's a great place in the show, Trey, thank you,
Anthony George said, thank you, mister Church, thank you.
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