Talkin’ Cowboys: Big Picture, Big Picks

Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez zoom out for a big-picture draft discussion, debating which positions they’d target with two first-round picks. Another offensive lineman, a rare swing at safety, or even more weapons for Dak Prescott?? The crew also breaks down the latest injury updates on CeeDee Lamb, Tyler Guyton, and Trevon Diggs.

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That touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker,
Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

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The s WBC studios.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
Welcome in, everybody.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you
to rock today with Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah standback,
Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman, so glad
you're with us. Come on in, let's talk a little
bit of Dallas cow Boys here on this Monday. Hope
you guys enjoyed the mini buy got to sit back, relax,
was lovely.

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Just ready yep, Oh, we're all doing it together.

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That's Chris.

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That's Chris.

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Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's really freaking good.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Hope you enjoyed your many by got to just sit
there and smolder in the loss that happened for the
Cowboys Thursday.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
I mean, it was not a good sports weekend for
your boy.

Speaker 9 (02:12):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was not a good sports and I recognized the
shirt and everything. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about it upstairs.
I'm sorry, Bro, It's okay.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
I'm going straight from here to introduce the new head coach.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Seriously.

Speaker 6 (02:22):
Yeah, like I'm in.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I'm in seeing the whole pres conference, got a one
on one and doing the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
So yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
You full to commit. You brod the draws, the I
got the green draws. The socks are still dirty and
I had to leave.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Them in you don't have one pair? Yeah, somebody lucky,
somebody saying lucky North Texas socks please.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Uh Yeah, it wasn't a good weekend. Thursday didn't go
our way. Friday definitely did not go North Texas's way. Georgia, congratulations,
y'all kick some button.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Thank you man. I wasn't going to do too much
because you guys a morning right now, and just how
to respect for that because I was going.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
To bring them, could have gone to Oxford.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I was going to bring them, but but yeah, no.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
School is still under litigation. So it's been a rough week.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hope for the victory going to the Grounk Ball.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
They are serious.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Well, at least you didn't back out of it like
you're in a bowl. At least you didn't decline the.

Speaker 8 (03:14):
Shots at Michigan and Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
Well, Michigan's in a bowl. Michigan's in the Cheese.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Hit Bowl with seven the cheese Bowl.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
It's fine.

Speaker 10 (03:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I meant like seven or eight other teams as of
last night had declined invitations as well.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
I hate that, man. Could you imagine being a senior way.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's my problem with Yes, the protests isn't convenient for everybody, Kyle, Yeah,
what protest isn't isn't going to be convenient for everybody?

Speaker 6 (03:41):
What do you mean? What do you mean right now?

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, but I'm with countless.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
It's bad.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I don't just agree. But when a stand has to
be taken, somebody's going to catch the you know.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
The stand Notre Dame is taking that they are upset
that they didn't get in.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I think they're them along with probably other university. I'm
surprised Texas is not protesting amount though or have losing
records in their decline.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
It was it was Notre Dame and by the first
and seconds.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
These protests aren't actually equal. Yeah, Notre Dame is protesting
the playoff for sure. If they join a conference, schedule
a better schedule. Don't just play who you.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Want to play and then immediately pout when you don't
get That's my thought.

Speaker 6 (04:27):
Get over it with man like.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I hate it for those guys like and I'm sure
Coach Freeman has his reasons for it.

Speaker 6 (04:35):
But it's stupid.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
It's just dumb to take that opportunity away, and it's
gonna be a good bowl game. It'd be a like
a borderline New Year's six Bowl game and Notre Dame's
just like, nah, we're good. Like ask Joe Schmoe, who's
the second team linebacker who spent all those summers and
all those days working grinding, studying film for the one
opportunity that he gets the chance to play, And even

(04:59):
if it's an a bowl game and the starter doesn't.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Play, he does.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
That's the that's the opportunity that you're missing from our careers.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Over now opting out, Yes, he's done.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
The next job he'll have other than playing football at
Notre Dame is sitting behind a desk nine to five
and he doesn't get a chance to play that ever again,
and he never will. All of a sudden, the last
game he ever had was in week twelve, and he
had no idea that that was his last game in
the mom couch.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
So I I.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
Can't start early.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
He might work at eighth to four.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Bit maybe.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
What place you're going into.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
I feel like I worked seven to eleven sometimes like
a M to PM, but seven eleven sponsors, I think
I just.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Was that. So I think I'll just do away our
bold gift. Yeah, No, I'm saying you do remember those
gifts though, that's that is an experience.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Sorry, I'm bro I really am, and I think you're
right for this.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
What do you think that they are going to get
accomplished by taking this and nothing?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Zeroelch Well the College Football Playoff committee, So Cionara, we
made our choice.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
You lost the Miami they.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Put it and it's like, oh, this is the beginning
of the end of bowl games. No it's not. Yeah,
it's not because bowl games make too much money. They
will find it lost to Alabama half three?

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Who got it?

Speaker 8 (06:19):
Yeah, he's in the Pop Tart Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Oh Alabama shouldn't be.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
I don't know. I gotta ask.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I think somebody one of the teams to climb the pod.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
They I believe, so I wonder if there's politics.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Feel free to correct me, but I think someone someone
to climbed the Pop Tart Bowl because I remember seeing
one of the couple of my followers respond to that tweet.
I was kind of doing multitasking fall Yeah, because they're
they're mine. I mean, if they also follow you, they're
yours as well.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
I got a few all we got to get in
the news game Christ.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
The rest up my home.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
I know you.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Just for example, the Birmingham Bowl, they're trying to find
someone to play Georgias up. They've had like four teams
declined the invitation. So to your point, yeah, and to
your point, that sucks. And then you're gonna have a
guy like Joe Schmoe or a guy who's right there
on the bubble as far as you know, draft status,
draft stock.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
Yes, one more, one more game, and maybe this game is.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
The opportunity for him to shine and he goes from
an undrafted free agent to maybe a seventh or sixth
round pick. So those opportunities for those guys that are
going So I'm with Kyle on this. If your message is,
you know, you want to end Bowl games, there's a
different way to go about that without sacrificing guys who
have sacrificed for your program. I'm with Kyle on that one.
So now fall.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Here, Yeah, cow Spitball by b YU and Georgia Tech
are in the Pop Tart Bowl.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's actually a really good game. Oh nice, Okay, Okay,
super game. Georgia Tech. We did this to you. We
did this to you. So let's talk news and notes
for the Dallas Cowboys first and foremost, or primarily I
should say, injury status for some key guys. Oh man,
good news. Oh oh okay. So Ceede Lamb had the

(08:01):
very very scary concussion that he suffered in the Lion's game.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
The more I go back and watch, that's it's scary.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
It's it's I thought it's it's when we were watching
in real time, we thought it was a shoulder thing.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, it was like, yeah, it wasn't, but it was
because of the lock up aingers.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, it was pretty Terrif there's another angle that I
saw after the fact.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I don't like. Not great. Now I will say two
pieces to this one. In seeing CD get on the
charter flight, he would he looked fine. He didn't need
any assistance getting his bags up the staircase into the
charter flight. So again I say this on Twitter when
I gave that update, I am not saying that Ceedee
Lamb is okay to play football today or yesterday or

(08:47):
when I gave that update. What I'm saying is that
is positive progress from seeing him lock up on the
field after hitting his head on the turf. Okay, that
being said, now we go to the second part of it,
which is the team's purview of it. Ceedee Lamb had
quote unquote a good day. This is perb Brian Schottenheimer
and his press conference on Friday, I believe, and he

(09:09):
said that the team quote unquote hopes the next couple
of days should help. Now add to that, Jerry Jones
on Friday spoke with one O, five to three of
the fan and he said, Ceedee Lamb is quote unquote
headed in a good direction. I'm sorry this was Stephen Jones.
Headed in a good direction towards likely playing. But again,
NFL concussion protocol is an independent decision, so two things

(09:32):
are true. Good news on the CD Lamb front. He
has made a good bit of progress. Looks like he's
mostly out of the woods when it comes to his concussion. However, however,
he still needs to go through the benchmarks to make
sure that he's cleared. He is on track right now,
but there is no one that's going to make that
decision except for the independent neurologists. But good news for

(09:52):
Ceedee Lamb. Put a pendent though. We'll see if he's
ready for the vikings. Looks like he will be. We
will see Tyler gout and not let's talk about the
guys who missed the game. Okay, Tyler guy In Jerry
Jones to one oh five through the Fan on a Friday,
he said, quote my thought, my thoughts are that he'll
be available against the Vikings. End quote. I like to
hear that about Tyler Guyden. So there you go. What's wrong?

Speaker 8 (10:16):
Does Isaiah's is on something?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
This guy, this two hundred and seventy degree vision. It
messes with me at times because I see his expressions.
I see everything in fact court vision what we call
it in the court vision. So Tyler gut In, it's
on track to play it to a return against the
Minnesota Vikings. On this coming Sunday, as is jadeveon Clowney

(10:38):
and I am of the opinion that the Cowboys really
missed clown I am too.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
Isn't it wild how much impact he has made?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, a big, physical defensive end that can pass, rush
and stop the run.

Speaker 8 (10:51):
But I thought he was watched Kyle. That's what everyone
was saying. That That's what everyone was saying on this show.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
On this show say, the amount of impact that he
has he's provided for this team is exactly what you wanted.

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Oh, my gosh, we're not even.

Speaker 10 (11:07):
Wondert milligrams in eleven minutes, just the party going.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
That's insane.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
The fact that you signed him off the couch in
the middle of what was it, week two or week three.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
To get out of.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
I'm about you have to pop up, uh, continuing javing
Jadavian Clowney. The impact that he's had in terms of numbers, production, film,
veteran ability, all of that is why you signed him.
And I think he's already been worth the money and
it was he's already worth the contract.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
Percent and it happened long before the Thanksgiving Game. I
think that's when we're giving him a lot of credit
after the two sacks.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Was always there.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
He was always there.

Speaker 10 (11:47):
He was always making a mess out of the line
and being able to disrupt. But I think you saw
it more so in that Thanksgiving game where people say, oh, yeah,
Jadevin Clowne, he's the man, And in course you miss
him the very next game, which sucks, but he was.

Speaker 8 (12:00):
He's been doing it since.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
He feels as if you were listening to Talking Cowboys,
you would have heard that. We said the analyst sitting
here that watch film said that he was ramping up.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
He was.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
He needed a couple of games to get.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Under his belt.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Right, started off slow, but by the third game he
was having a true impact.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
His training camp was in real time like and during
the regular season.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
Same thing's happening for Savona Rebel right now, by the way.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Louder for the people in the bag, please, we'll get
to that. Because I gave the Rooks some grace on
the touchdown. I was like that, that's been rough. But
he didn't get depths.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Gonna take some time.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
You could, you could get teaching reps in games.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
What are you talking about? That's the only every rookie
gets teaching reps in games.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
You think they boy Isaiah, it's not. But he's been bad,
but we anticipated him to be bad. It's the first
he's coming off of a major in Oh my.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
God, it's a rookie coming off of a tournament. Clown
should be quote ready to go against me. I'm not.
I'm not going there with him, and he's three hundred
milligrams in. Let's just sat yeah, let's just let the
shakes go away first. Jenevion Clowney is quote ready to uh,

(13:22):
we'll be ready to go against Minnesota barn Any setbacks.
It's per Brian Schottenheimer. That is very definitive news. So
as long as Jadeveon Clowney has clean practices this week
and the Cowboys are finally back on a normal week
and a normal schedule, finally, I like it. Okay, So
they'll be back on the practice field on Wednesday for
two weeks and then stop it be where your feet

(13:45):
are trying not to look that because it's tied.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
Boss, I's tied. And last, but certainly not least. Trayvon Diggs.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
He returned to practice at his twenty one day practice
window opened a couple of days or so before or
last week's game. There was good optimism that he would
play in that game in Detroit. He did not. However,
he was rude and active. He was not activated to
the fifty three man roster. There's a better chance of
that happening this week. But word has it Trevon Diggs

(14:16):
wants to play. Whereas it Trevon Diggs says he's ready
to play, but they have to say he's ready to play,
they being the medical staff.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
So he wants to play.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
He wants to play.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
So I mean as all athletes and competitors would want
to do. You kind of get tired of sitting on
the salem, even if it's due to injury, you get
tired to sit on the sellem. So we will see
how this week's practice goes. Better chance of returning this
week against the Minnesota Vikings. We will see if that
comes to fruition.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
How long has he been out?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
This is five weeks. That'll be five five games, got you, Yeah,
it'll be five six weeks, six weeks. Yeah, because he
had the bye week.

Speaker 10 (14:51):
Yeah yeah, got youa y Yeah, but at least he
worked out with the team in the off season right now.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah, m.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Y so good.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
It's really just I say, yeah, all right, I got
a draft question for you guys.

Speaker 8 (15:06):
Please like, yeah, already started the draft Kyle, the heck,
I'm not.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
I'm not there yet.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
Come on, man.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Mentions every time we lose, I can't get drafted.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I know, Sorry.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Dude, Uh, every time we lose. My mentions are start the.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
Draft shoe, get the draft show going.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Might as well fire fire.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
It up, like, get it go, and trust me, I
love the Draft show as much as anybody.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
But now, uh.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
One thing I will ask though, is at this point
in time, is we kind of evaluate post bye week
four games? Right, We've got a better sample size now
following the bye week three and one on those four
games going into the Mini. Buy now, as you get
ready for for Minnesota coming up on Sunday, where do
you feel like the needs are on this roster? On

(15:51):
what you have right now? And keep in mind a
lot of this is going to change because there's first
round or one year deals are in expiring contracts on
the board for a lot of significant players George Pickins,
Javonte williams Uh, Jadevion Clowney.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Who we just talked about a little bit.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Multiple guys are on one year deals right now or
expiring deals for that matter. So you currently have the
fifteenth overall pick in the NFL draft, that's your pick.
Then the Packers pick is slated at twenty eight right now.
Of course that's going to change based on the playoffs.
So where would you use your first round picks if

(16:29):
the draft were tomorrow? So keep in mind that there
are going to be some changes. But if the draft
were tomorrow, where would you try and add to this team?
Does that have to be an order, doesn't have to
be an order.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Okay, Defensively, I'm going d N I'm going cornerback. Offensively,
I'm going to wide receiver.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Okay, so those are your three.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Those are my three.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Got two round picks. You're thinking best player at that spot, then.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
You need a bigger defensive end that that has a
that can do what Jadevian Clowney does, right, but just
substantially younger. So you need somebody to fill that role.
I think Donovan Ezerrok, who's going to be a good
pass rusher in this league, but I don't for his frame.
He'll fill out right, but I think that you need

(17:13):
a bigger presence at It's more of a speak guy exactly,
so I think you need to utilize him as a
speed guy. And you need another larger defensive end that
has the pass rush ability. So that's something that I
would like to see. I would also think that you
still need a cornerback.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
We'll talk about Trayvon. I think that you're gonna need
a replacement there. I also think that you need a
wide receiver because I don't foresee them bringing back Jalen Tolbert.
And I think that you need somebody that's dependable behind
uh the Ceedee Lamb potential George picks that.

Speaker 6 (17:47):
May not be the if it's if you do.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Are you really going to do this to Flinoila?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
No, no, no, no, Illinois's there, he's there. But you're
saying you just rolling a three.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Know what I'm saying is because you your state, it
was you go and draft receiver. Yes in one of
the first two picks. Yes, because Jayalen Tobard is probably No.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, no, no no no. Let's see what I'm saying. You
don't know what I'm saying, Like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
If you know what I'm saying, Pickens, then I'm down right.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
So you know what I'm saying. That math is mathing.
That mathing man.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Okay, So again this is where we disagreed on the
defensive side of the day as well. Right when I
said that you're closer to being dominant at the stopping
the run. That's why you'll get interior defensive line. You're
right about they're closer to being dominant in what portion
of your game on offense? On offense, yes, offensively, your
dominant passing, Yeah, yeah, passing again for sure. Okay, So
I mean I can get along with a with a
tackle as well, Right, I can get along with that,

(18:40):
but very very much so get along with it with
a tackle. Wouldn't be opposed to that, However, if you're
you're really close to be, if you can get one
more dominant wide receiver, who can stop that? So that's
that's what I'm saying, Like, like I'm all about if
I'm if I'm if I'm this close to being dominant,
if I'm this close to being dominant and damn near
unstoppable at one particular position, I want to get there?

(19:03):
I would I don't. I don't want to. I don't
want to be right there, and then pull back and say, okay,
now let me go try.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
To feel it.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Let's solidify that because you might be one trade, you
might be one free agent, you might be one of
those away from being solid at your other positions. But
if you can push the if you could push it
over the edge and have three dominant wide receivers dominant.
Now I'm not saying if Illinois can't be in there,
but I'm saying you're not putting him in a dominant
conversation and you don't have George Pickins. So then and

(19:28):
I think that if you even if you go into
it and people say, well, we could just franchise tag them,
you think you're gonna get the best version of George
Pickins on a franchise tag or.

Speaker 10 (19:35):
Look, i'd argue, if your tackles are getting bull rushed
by premium edge rushers, you're not gonna be able to
get to them.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I don't disagree with that. That's why I said I'm
on board with a tackle. Yeah, I'm on board with attackle,
but I don't know the whole salary cap situation. I
know you got money tied up, you're not getting rid
of guy, and you've got to figure out a way
to get some dog out of him. All right, you
got Terrence Steel still on his contract that you guys
gave him right now, This is okay, So that might
be a position on me. If there's a guy there
that's dominant, then.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
Cool, my Kyle, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I was just gonna say I would argue that you
already are dominant, dominant at wide receiver. I would argue
this way if it stays with George Pickens and you
were able to to shore him up going into twenty
twenty six. I would argue, you're already there, so to
spend a first round pick on it makes no sense. However,
and I get what you're trying to say. One thousand
percent of Greek we just saw, We just saw what

(20:24):
happens with CD.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Want to get out.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Ryan Flanoy stepped up, That's all we saw. Yeah, we did,
but that's not the first time.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
But done it either?

Speaker 9 (20:30):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, no, no, not at all. And I'm saying that
that's solid, But are you fully comfortable and competent moving
forward knowing that that's your that's your guy.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Did you see what happened the first time CD went down,
assuming that you retained yours.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Listen, I'm not saying that he's not somebody who's a
good player. What I'm saying is you get somebody you
have on a contract for five years and he's dominant. Dominant,
not not good, maybe dominant.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
If there's no George Pickens, I'm in. I'm totally in that.
If George Picks is there, I'm I'm gonna says.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
So my whole thought again, I know we can we
can differ on this. Of course, my whole thought process
is if I was I'm a GM, I want to
be unstoppable. That's something unstoppable. If one of my guys
go down, it doesn't matter when three of ours, our
guys are out there. Name a team that has the
three headed Monstert receiver. Nobody, nobody, So why not be
the first?

Speaker 6 (21:18):
You could probably argue maybe the Rams maybe.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Yeah, Nate like yeah, sorry, you're you're two guys, two picks.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
Two picks, first two round.

Speaker 10 (21:28):
I mean I kind of have to spread it out
to three different positions, so I'd like to address. Uh, first,
you have to be defense for me, safety and cornerback
right now?

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Oh you're going secondary? Secondary?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (21:40):
Absolutely, that for me is most important. Linebacker would be
in there as well. But like we just talked about,
you kind of change my mind a little bit. On tackle,
I would love to see another tackle coming here again.
You know, Nate Thomas.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
We saw the sample.

Speaker 10 (21:52):
Size we've I mean, we've seen the good end the
bad from Nate Thomas this year and he's on under contract.
I mean, I would love to see how he progresses
if he you know, if they decide to let tern
seal walk and maybe possibly give that spot to Nate Thomas,
I think that's in question right yeah, But for me
right now, you need a dog a safety one hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
You need a guy that can cover.

Speaker 10 (22:13):
That isn't just good at one thing, because your defensive
coordinator right now is basically telling you, I need a
guy that need a safety. I need a safety that
can cover, not just go downhill. I need a safety.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Need a dog at safety. Agreed. Else you need a
dog and linebacker. And that's a non tendre Okay.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
You got an eye on you got an eye on one.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I CEEJ, how's it going, CJ Allen, how's the family?
Everybody from Georgia? Everybody good? Ce J Allen's absolute monster.
And I think that he'd be right there in that
window for that that from what.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
It'd probably be the late first round, Yeah, early right there.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
And if and this is not this is not just
by his talking. Admittedly there's somebody's here, but if you've
watched c. J. Allen play, and he's he's one of
the more cerebral players in the country. He's arguably the
best off ball linebacker in the country. He's the best
tackling off ball linebacker in the country. He's sidelined the sideline,
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(23:11):
phrase from Jerry Jones, I have visions of sugar plums
dancing in my head when I picture c. J Allen
and Mary overshown in the middle of that that defense.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
Good god man, well, congratulations Philadelphia.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Right, he'll be there.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
So I'm going line I'm going linebacker for my first
two picks. I'm going linebacker and I'm going defensive end.
I could see that.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
I love the big defensive I'm going defensive end.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And Josh makes great points, Isaiah makes great points. I
don't necessarily agree. I don't agree with the wide receiver
point at all. I do agree with the d Yeah, No,
I agree with the defensive eni the wide receiver. That
that math is not there for me, and I'll get
to that in a quick second. But I'm on a
record timing again as being a guy who wants to
build a defense front to back. So the way you

(23:57):
positively affect safety and corner play is you get the
dogs up front, you get the dogs you get after
the quarterback. So you have a deficiency at defensive end.
Instead of blowing past that and saying well, let me
get a high end safety. Go and get a dog
up front, Go and drop a dog in the middle.
So d E and linebacker specifically c J. Allen is

(24:18):
gonna be my pick, Caack.

Speaker 10 (24:19):
I think the mentality is there for safety in that
the Cowboys haven't necessarily valued safety at a high position
so far in the draft, or a high pick. I mean,
so if you have two first round picks, then it's
at that point you're willing to take a chance on
a position like safety because you also have another first
round pick.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Well, you know the last time they've drafted a safety period,
like at any point in the ground. No, JJ Wilcocks,
it's not that far back. Okay, he's still on the team.
He's Donovan Wilson. Sixth round twenty nineteen, in the sixth round.
Was the last time Dallas drafted a safety of any kind. Wow,
So you talk about not valuing safety. I find it

(24:58):
hard to believe they would. They would put first round
draft capital.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Typically go sixth, like it's frequently sixth.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
I understand that that's where I think, like a fourth
round pick might be as high as they're going to go,
and they have one they don't have a second or
a third, but they have a fourth round pick to
where maybe that does play a factor. Because I agree
with you, I think they should invest in the safety
position because they need a dog. But unless you're gonna
get a Kyle Hamilton or Jalen Peetrie or some of

(25:27):
these guys that are next level impact players in the
first round, I don't see them doing anything like that,
and even then I think they would be hesitanting.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
The argument though, is that if you are Matt Eberflus
and you are staying on this staff because they've talked
about consistency, they want to keep consistency in the defensive
coordinator position, or else you're going to get the fourth
coordinator in a.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
Row on defense. Y, that'd be wild.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
If you're Matt Eberflus, you're saying, I need help. I
need help with safety.

Speaker 8 (25:53):
This is a glaring hole in our defense right now.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
This is my ideology. All these days are needs correct abs.
So the way in which I it could be any
of these when I have my GM hat on which
I'm not getting paid for that obviously, I look at
if I have high draft stocks, right draft equity, what
positions are more difficult to find on the free agent market.

(26:18):
What positions are harder to acquire?

Speaker 8 (26:20):
Forgot we're using for agency?

Speaker 6 (26:21):
Now?

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, what what we'll see?

Speaker 8 (26:24):
But I'm serious first year?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
But like also, what positions are harder to acquire from
other teams? So I don't disagree anything that you guys
said in terms of positional needs. But when I think
about first round draft equity, what positions do I need
to acquire that I can hand select that would be
difficult to find from another team or from sitting at
the crib? Safety teams are willing to get rid of safeties,

(26:48):
or there's it's easier to find safeties linebackers. We've invested
heavily in linebackers, and I think those are linebackers, no
disrespect to the position, are easier to find, right, there's
a lot more you've rotated that position last year, three
or four years.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
Jack Bond was in a free agency pickup.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
So the linebackers are easier to find. Safeties are easier
to find. Corners teams don't get Teams don't get rid
of corners. Teams don't get rid of d ns. Right,
teams don't get rid of offensive tackles. So these are
positions these are positions that is gonna be very difficult
to acquire from another team that if the player is
worth anything, and it's going to be difficult to find

(27:24):
on the free agent market because teams always value those positions.
So I'm saying, if you have first round equity, use
it to go acquire those positional needs that you cannot
acquire from other people. And then safety, there's gonna be
some of those guys laying around, right, or linebackers is
gonna be those guys laying around receivers. I hear what
you guys are saying. Teams aren't giving up solid receivers, right,

(27:47):
They're just not. Teams aren't giving up big defensive ends
that can pass, rush and infect. And teams aren't giving
up tackles. You're just not getting a guy that you're
expecting to come in and be a premier contributor at
those positions really quickly.

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Speaker 5 (31:22):
We were having a really fun draft conversation prior to
the break, where we're talking about team needs and where
the first round picks could be utilized if the season
were to end tomorrow, but also keeping in mind that
a lot of these contracts are going to turn over
in the off season and free agency is going to
happen before now. So very preliminary draft conversation. And of

(31:44):
course we were talking about the possibility of defense, heavy
defense in those first two rounds or first two first
round picks. Yes, then you've got Isaiah talking about a
possible wide receiver. I wouldn't mind an offensive lineman, but again,
you can't use it a first I'm picking on an
offensive lineman every year. You can, I mean you could,
maybe you should, but there's conversations.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
To be had there.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You got two of them on there right now.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
You were gonna make a point.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, I was prior to the brand for the wide
receiver because, like Isaiah Cook, he put his ideology out there.
I understand, and there's definite improving science behind that ideology
as far as as far as extrapolating for positional argument, right,
But when you look at it from a personnel standpoint, currently,
I am of the mindset I'm just going to assume

(32:32):
the Cowboys at minimum they're going to franchise tag George Pickens.
Now you pose, you pose the question, and.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Could tag Brandon and Aubrey too?

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Just signed the kicker, just signed the freaking I agree,
you franchise tag and we'll talk about this more once
we get closer to free agency and the tag deadline.
I'm of the belief they'll tag him if they need
more time. I think to purchase time till mid late
July to get the deal done. I don't think their
goal will be for him to play under it. So

(33:02):
that's to ask your question when you said, do you
think you get the best version of George Pickens, I
don't think you will be in the building it right.
But that being said, I think George Pickens remains in
Dallas because the front office isn't going to let him leave.
We know we have Ceedee Lamb, and then you got
Flow who's shown you he can be one hundred yard
receiver in any given game. Those are your three right
So from there, this is why for me that math

(33:23):
doesn't math, but that math math. So when Kyle is saying, well,
if George Pickens is not in the Cowboys uniform, oh
I'm then I'm with you.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
You need that guy, and I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
First round pick on a wide receiver with CD George
and Flow staring you in the face, you don't use
the first round pick on a receiver's just because you
lost Jalen Tobart potentially, So for that feeling, I give
what you saying. So that that's my only argument there.
But as far as like tackle, they we need to
see what they're gonna do with Karren Steele because there's

(33:56):
a possibility. I mean, there's there's a version in the
multiverse of the Cowboys where they let Terrence Steel walk
and they move Tyler Gutting back to right tack. I think,
I think, But that still doesn't change the fact whether
you move got into right tackle or leave from that
left tackle.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
You're you're still go.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
To answer attack.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I have belief in Still, like I truly do.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
No, I'm not saying I don't speaking hypothetical.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
And I feel the same way about Guiden, like I
have belief in Guidon too. I think he's still He's
been hindered so much in them.

Speaker 10 (34:23):
I think the contract is harming Steel at this point
because you have that potential out and the contract is
too large.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Argua.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I think that they're looking at it completely different. But
I have faith that that still has enough in him
to go out there and be productive like that be
a solid right tackle. Like I don't see his game
falling off in a in a in a way in
which you're like, ah, yeah, it's time to it's time
to move on. I have concerns about guiding. I do
have concerns about guiding, and it has nothing has nothing
to do with the physics. Has everything that was mental.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
I was going to ask, do you answer the question
I was going to ask if that player or is
that availabilities?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's player, it's it's I have questions about his top
drive and yeah, and mentality for.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Me, what mine is the inverse? Like, I don't have
concerns about the mental I have concerns about the availability.

Speaker 7 (35:08):
Just simply that's where I am.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
It is his second year, but how many times, how
many games has he already missed.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
I can't speak to a man's health.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I can't speak to whether or not he is healthy enough.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
But you can speak to that he has been injured.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
I can speak to things that I've played through, and
I can speak to things that former teammates have played through.
I think there. I believe I don't know right, I'm
not him. There's certain things that I've seen him have
to come off the field for that. I believe that
other people might have stayed on the field for.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
That might be worth the conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
That's my again, that's not me. I can't feel what
he feels.

Speaker 8 (35:44):
But I'm just looking.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I'm looking at it, and I watch him. I've seen
him at training camp, but i've seen I don't know
that up here he has that. I'm a dog mentality.
I think that the guy next to him absolutely does.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
When you're in the training table, cool, that's the difficult
it is.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
It's it's just perception because you just don't know. You
don't know and different. Pain tolerance is similar injuries, right,
So that's what I mean. Like, now, pain tolerance can
be mental, but it's it's as much physical as mental.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I mean, it's just it's a mental it's it's a
mental in this sport, it's a mental pain tolerance. Is
pain tolerance rather be sported, but mentally you decide whether
or not to.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Push through it.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Ask me if my tattoos hurt, No, seriously naturally hurt. Right.
So there are people that have a bunch of ink
like I do, and they will tell you that, Oh now,
they'll say, oh no, it doesn't hurt, and they might
be telling the truth. Some people are lying. Stop it okay,
They'll they'll be like, oh it doesn't hurt. Maybe they're
telling the truth. The pain tolerance is a bit higher.

(36:45):
My pain tolerance is a bit lower. So although I
have a bunch of tattoos, every one of these sons hurt. Yes, right, agree,
but I pushed through. I get what you're saying. But
the point being is that it's both of those things.
It's both mental and it's the physiological makeup.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
And next time you're in the training table, I need
you to stop your your buddy from the training staff
that you're really tight with, and I need you to
sit him down and.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Ask that because I want to know.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I really do, because if if anybody's going to know what,
it's going to be the training staff, and it's going
to be the guys that work with him and rehab
with him all day, every day, through.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
The shops and through the season.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Is all we can do is.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
We're just seeing it from the outside, so you don't
know what the severity of the injury are at all.
I think it's unfair to write him off because I can't.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
All I can do is say, hey, from what I see,
if I was building a team, I would have questions
about his ability to push through.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Because the availability has been a problem counterpoint both in
training camp and then.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
C It's not even just an injury thing for me,
like injuries happened. It's not just an injury thing for me.
It's just how I've seen the approach to the game.
It's not consistent enough for me to be protecting your
most valuable asset on your team.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
Just yeah, no, no, I think that was well put
by all sides. It's hard to know what he's facing.
You know, you're not him, and I think that's the
great idea to kind of reach out and see basically
what the coaching staff thinks of his progression so far.
But you can't deny that availability has been a concern.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
For him regardless.

Speaker 10 (38:20):
This conversation is kind of moot because he's been so
inactive and unavailable for.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
The for.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
One reason or another.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
I think it was tough to have him in the
last few weeks of training camp out with that injury.
Thank goodness he came back from that and was able
to play. Uh, But at least for my purview, I
don't think the concern is there. And you have him
under contract for the next few years, you have to
see how he develops. For me, it's it's right now,
It's Terrence Steele and where you go from there.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Yeah, all right, let's take our second break. When we
come back. We've mentioned a lot of positions. I've got
some names for you guys. You will see if we
can maybe like sprinkle in some names, sprint craft names
in my early prep spreading me man.

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Isaiah's like, you know, I don't know none about that.

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Monday morning, having a good draft conversation. Just because we
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Speaker 10 (42:39):
We want to have the conversations we are not typically permit,
not permitted, but like have time for Yeah, we typically
don't have time.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
We love you fandomly, but let us cool.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
You're gonna get all your segments this week, in fact,
all of them, including including yeah lab coat in the
college football in the chest.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
As soon as we said the word playoff, Jack Burton said, please,
season is over season?

Speaker 8 (43:04):
Yeah, there he goes can't win.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
It makes Jack, So let us cool.

Speaker 5 (43:07):
All right, I've got a couple names for you guys. Okay, Isaiah,
you said you wanted a wide receiver. Would you like
a big bodied wide receiver that can be a red
zone threat or would you rather like, Oh, you want
a slack guy.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Want to slack?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Well, I have a big body wide receiver from Washington
just because he's a U DUB guy and I wanted
to throw his name out there. He's probably a late
first round, middle first round pick. His name is Denzel Boston,
six foot four pounds. He's had nineteen touchdowns over the
last two seasons. Red zone threat, and he's also a
deep threat as well, averaged over fourteen yards per reception throughout.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
Not a ton of.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Burst off the line of scrimmage, but still a guy
that can. I mean, he's he's quick. Yeah, he reminds
me a little bit of a former Washington wide out
in Romano Donsay, But I think Donza has a little
bit more burst than this guy does.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
It's more of an I like the fact that he's
from Udubwever.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
I don't want that guy.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I want a guy that he's a mismatched nightmare for
any nickel that decides to step on the field. If
He's a mismatch nightmare for a nickel. He's a missmaster
nightmare for a linebacker and a safety anybody else that
wants to walk out there, and I say that he
has to stay at slot. Yeah, but I'm saying I
want a guy that you put at slot and is.

Speaker 10 (44:18):
Like, crap, give me a give me an example. Not
that we're talking about trading and.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
He's talking about I mean, obviously this position that has
kind of changed and evolved over the years. But you
remember I played with guys like Julian Edelman. I played
with guys like Wes Welker, Guys like that that you
just can't.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
You can't guard Kody like that in the draft.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Yeah, I'm looking at I don't I want Jordan Tyson
from Arizona State, five or six foot. I mean, he's
kind of he can be an ex He's more of
like a CD than he is like a.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I want to quick guy, quick first ten yards guy.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Let me look up this guy, mikayle Lemone or Lemon.
One of its spelled Lemon l E m o N,
but it's either Lamone or Lemon. He's from USC. I
haven't watched him yet, but he's five with eleven one
and it looks like he's a burner.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Let me look, I'm looking at it because I think
about it from this perspective.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Right, twelve hundred yards, receiving seventy nine receptions, eleven touchdowns,
and he's averaging fifteen yards per catch like that.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So there's that.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I like those because if you have to resort, if
you have to revert to to our guy, Jake Ferguson
being mister Chipen flat, then you still need a guy
to work to work the middist.

Speaker 8 (45:26):
I kind of like this though.

Speaker 10 (45:27):
Can we can we name a player type or characteristics
that we like of a player, and Kyle, you give
us the best compromise in the draft.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
I don't have like the wide range there guys yet,
but keep going.

Speaker 7 (45:40):
Raft expert. Let me see him. Come on, Kyle, give
me some time.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Oh brother, this guy.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
Stack Uh, give me give me a spot. Let me
see if I can find one. I do have an
edge rusher that I give us a big deal.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
David Bailey from Texas Tech, this dude a monster. Describe
a monster six foot four, two hundred and fifty pounds.
Just nothing but strip, nothing but straight strength and power
at the line of scrimmage, like a little bit bit
throwing guys around. Yeah, I like him. I think I

(46:17):
think you'd like him too. And you can grow into
that six foot four frame too.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
Yeah, it's thirteen and a half sacks a sex attack.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
I would like a little bit larger defensive end presence.
I feel I feel as if that's what Ezraku is
going to be. Oh okay, you know mean you don't
want redundants.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I don't want redundancy.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
So what do you think in like two sixty.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I've been like six six two sixty five something like that.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Mateo uiyala leg oh poly Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Yeah. Edge rusher from Oregon six foot five, two hundred
and seventy pounds. Work doesn't have the production this year,
only five sacks, it only has twenty eight tackles.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
But yeah, where's number ten for Oregon. You can see
him in the College Football Playoff.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Take a look at him.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I like those numbers.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Number ten.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
Y give me a done a munch, give me a
Walter Nolan type.

Speaker 6 (47:02):
I love theats and tackle or a big defensive tackle.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Yeah, give me a little bit. Talk about why you
would want a big defensive Yeah, why you.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Want another tackle? Are you kidding?

Speaker 7 (47:14):
You kidding me?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
You have three tackles right now.

Speaker 8 (47:17):
It's already a strength and just make it better.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Push it over the edge.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
Push it over the edge, John, Is that what you're
saying right now?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Don't know?

Speaker 8 (47:23):
Just like your mentality in terms of wide receivers.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Some point you can't play them.

Speaker 7 (47:26):
That might we just become best friend.

Speaker 10 (47:28):
But when you have to rotate them out, Kyle, guess what,
there's no guy drop.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
Off that might push your guy period out.

Speaker 10 (47:35):
I like Perryon, but as he touched the field yet,
Come on, man, what are we doing?

Speaker 7 (47:38):
So in the heill activate? How's the rookie going to activated?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Bro?

Speaker 7 (47:43):
Give me more activision?

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Darryl Jackson Junior, six foot five three and forty pounds,
Florida State. Or you've got Dante cora Leone.

Speaker 8 (47:54):
Dante Corleone, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Six foot one, three thirty five. He's a little more stocked.
They're not getting it out of sense.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
He's got a Cincinnati I don't think so either. But
that you want you wanted a big Burley defensive tackle.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
There's.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Word.

Speaker 10 (48:08):
I just I don't know if Clark's contract is going
to make sense this year. I mean, Jerry Jones says absolutely,
we're going to keep him for sure, but I mean
the cap pit next year is insane.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Well, if you go to if you go to my piece,
if you go to my piece that I wrote on
that on the dot com, come then you will see
that Kenny Clark's contract restructure it and it's very very friend.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
If he wants to restructure it, he has no choice,
no choice.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
Restructuring and pay cut are two different things. Restructure is
a baked in mechanism that is something for teams to
be able to use the free up cap space. It
doesn't affect the cash flow to the player. It doesn't
affect if anything, it gives the player more liquid more
liquidity up front, so they get more cash, they get
cash sooner, liquidity, you said, Burley, I said, it's actually okay.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
Yeah, I've learned something new every day.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
I gotta ba ca and smell fresh cash.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
So yeah, straight cash home. So yeah, so restructuring and
I know a lot. That's I'm glad you brought it
up because so many fans think that restructuring and taking
a pay cut are two different things.

Speaker 7 (49:14):
So it's like Google just confirmed that for you, because
I told you.

Speaker 6 (49:17):
That doesn't work.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
The availability of assets market with seventy.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
So it doesn't have to be the twenty million dollar
Capit that work.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
No, it's not. It does not and can. He does
not have to agree. He's not going to disagree. That's
why it's it's not a mechanism that players have to
agree on because it doesn't negatively impact their their income
at all. If anything, it brushes it forward.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
It pushes some of the money forward for them.

Speaker 8 (49:43):
So I like that money's done.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
All right, That does it for us. You're on Talking Cowboys.
We are back on our normal schedule starting tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Man, we're gonna talk cowboys.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
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Speaker 7 (50:07):
Too many eights, Yeah, all right?

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