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with it. We've got QB Vision today, So we're gonna
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Then we'll have some lap code. Then we're gonna have
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You put that lab coat in there on there and
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Shocked full, you might say, absolutely.
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Fun fact for you. What's that last night?
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Ye tomorrow?
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Uh huh.
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I was tired, you're tired, just tired? Is that the
We had a long day on Sunday, so tired, passed
out when I got home, woke up, did a couple
of chores, and next thing you know, my wife is
calling me into the office. She's laughing.
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She stepping into my office.
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Exactly the principal's office.
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So I go in there.
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I'm half hear the rest of the story. Actually absolutely,
So I walk over there and I'm like, what's going on?
And she's literally watching Talking Cowboys can catch it earlier,
and she's laughing at the intro because at the beginning,
I'm going like this behind mister Rodriguez and he's going
like this. She's dying. She's like, what's wrong with you guys?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
And a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I have to go back and make a gift now
of Josh doing this, right, you go back and forth.
That's all you get. That's all you get.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Wait for talking.
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After dark, once we get behind that paywall, happen.
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Yeah.
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Now we have so much fun here.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I also love that, like all of our family members
are kind of.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Involved with all the stupidity that we have on this show.
It's great.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Like my wife will text me it. Sh'll be like,
stop it, don't, don't make another ky joke.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Your wife Mamma yos Yeah, mamma yo's always watch I'm
always getting wife chums in with just a ton of
laugh of face emojis. Often because of this guy. Hey,
he's a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
The entire town of Little Elm watches for Josh Rider.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
He absolutely my hometown, my hood, if you will, the hood.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Mean streets, the mean streets of slight of Walker Boulevard,
the streets of Walker.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Slightly you know what it is, Eli go Lobos.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Slightly lifted streets of Little elm go Lobos.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
They've never once reached out to me, be like, hey,
you know you're, you know, doing well over there.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
How about you? They got to do something for us.
Come on, man, I love littlee.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
They were oh for ten in football this year, like
they were oh and ten mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, he's a rough year for Lobos.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Well, don't reach out to me unless you're the media
tech department, use of them.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You're supposed to be a booster.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You gotta start like saying, what do you We got
to build an indoor.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
I've always wanted to be part of like a country
club or like one of those what is it called
the secret Society?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Mean skull and Bones. Little them has one of those.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm sure they do.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I'm in talent.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
You're a boost, so you need to kick in this
kick in really good transfer portal from duncan Ville.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Let's start getting plays over here. We got to get
some talent.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I mean, the crown achievement is Cole Beasley, and I
want to change that.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
I want to change that.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Joe Looney is a coach there now, Okay, Joe, Joe,
I love just called them. Sorry Joe, It's true. I
mean the record is the record records or anything about it?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The record.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You are who your record says you are? Bam.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
The Cowboys are five five and one. Let's talk about
little news and notes. Jerry Jones just got off of
one O five through the Fan.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
He did just get off one on five through the fan.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
How many will have a story for you football?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Oh no?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
However will they survive?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
All right?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Jerry Jones has talked about several things on one five
through the Fan. First, let's happen with the injury report.
Keeping in mind, the Cowboys, as we all know, are
on an exceptionally short week. Okay, so don't expect full
blown practices going on here. I say that to say
yesterday was a walkthrough. Okay, today might be a job through, right, y'all?
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What a soft jay. The headliner for those who may
not be available against the Kansas City Chiefs on Thanksgiving
is Tyler Gott And he left the eventual victory over
the Philadelphia Eagles. That that felt good? Say, the eventual
victory over the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah yeah, and like those words,
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with an ankle injury. He did not return. It's not
looking good for Tyler Guyton. When we talked to Brian
Schottenheimer on yesterday, in conjunction with what Jerry Jones told
one oh five three the Fan this morning. H it's
it's a bleak outlook as far as him being able
to turn around and play four days after suffering an
ankle injury, in which case he's having a difficult time
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not limping on. So as we have this conversation, I
will go ahead and put a strike through on Tyler Guyton,
and I would pencil in Nate Thomas as the starting
left tackle. So that's the that's the not great news.
The other news is, you know, pretty good, pretty good
Kayln Carson. I know a lot of fans were concerned
about Kaylen Carson. Turns out he was just battling dehydration.
That's why he was in and out of the game,
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so they so not like an actual not an actual injury.
He was just battling dehydration. So when they felt they
had it under control, they sent them back in, but
then he started cramping again, so he had to exit again.
So it was just it was a weird.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
He seemed really upset off the field whenever he's coming
off and through his helm matting.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Which makes when you cramping up, and you're just like.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Totally understanding, going on, totally understanding it is something real injury.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I'm just saying, no, no, not not something that would
lingering thing. It's what I'm kind of kind of a
fluke thing. And anyone who's played any kind of athletics
understands that sometimes you just you cramp up for some reason.
And yeah, Isaiah, don't be quiet.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah what are you doing?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
If I need to get you one of these.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
That's it's weird because at this level, at this time
of the year. But yeah, but I would also.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So he hasn't played a time.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't care. It's been off job to stay hydrated.
Hey do you do you guys remember this might have
been like three four years ago, give or take. The
Cowboys had like this rash of cramping that would happen
with the players. The time of the year it was
around actually it was midpoint, maybe slightly before midpoint summer,
makes sense they would losing. So that's the thing for
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people that are out there and one of my face
looks like this. Hydration they always hydration is a part
of your maintenance, right as a professional athlete. It's more
difficult in the summertime because of the weight and water
that you're expelling during practice, during the game on any
given day because of how hot it is. So anytime
in summertime to transition the first part of the year,
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that first month really of the year, you're losing ten
to you know, and depending on your position, anywhere from
five to fifteen pounds of water weight. So cramping is
almost part of it. It's a part of it, right.
You hope that you don't you hydrate as much as
you can, but I don't know how how many times
you guys have poured out fifteen pounds of water, but
it's a lot, right, So your body will get dehydrated
this time of the year playing indoor. There's really no
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excuse for it, is what I'm saying, Right, that's a
preventable measure and most certainly preventing. So that's why I
get that look, like, how it can you come into
that game dehydrated? It most certainly, And even before games
there's a line of guys that get ivs before the game, Like,
so there's many checkpoints, checkpoints that could have been prevented
in terms of him, you know, missing time in the
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game to Kyle's.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Point though, he's ramping up for the first time basically
this season, over the last three weeks, and you know,
maybe this just was part of the getting back into
the rhythm of things. Totally understandable. But yeah, of course
you'd expect him to be hydrated. But it's just one
of those things and probably why you saw some of
the frustration on his face coming off the field.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Hitch, I shouldn't. I shouldn't be dealing with it right now.
I need to be through.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And the good news is is that he's learned the lesson.
Not an injury. Yeah, he's not an injury.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
That's the good Yeah, thank them.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Will be on the field again, pickle juice, City Chiefs, everybody.
That means he needs to have a jar pickle juice
on the sideline. So be it another round of good news.
George Pickens. We know that he was dealing with would
now be described as a contusion. A contusion. Brian Schottenheimer
said yesterday that it's more so just soreness that's being
worked through. He basically expects that George Pickens will be
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on the fields. A good thing. He has time to recover, right, No, No,
not at all. Because player safety and you know, and
the like, right, nothing.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Patrick, but then we'll go we'll go straight into the many.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
By after that. No, yeah, three and twelve, I mean yeah,
not talking about a record, Yeah, player safety. So George Pickens,
he's dealing with some He's dealing with some soreness, as
is also Digizua. Now, I will say, based on how
the answers from Shoddy and Jerry Jones were qualified, it
sounds as if the only one that they haven't a
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real concern with is Tyler Guidan. So also diggi Zua
did not participate with an elbow injury, but sounds like
he will be fine. They're just gonna be cautious with
him over this very short period of time. Same for
George Pickens. Soreness with the knee half should be fine.
Cavante Turpin missed, practiced with the walkthrough, I should say,
with a shoulder issue also an illness should be fine. Uh,
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And everyone else either participated in a limited capacity or
in a full blown capacity. So again a straw circle
around Tyler Guyton. He's the one that likely will not play.
Everyone else looks like they will be in probably won't
practice this week for guys like, oh, so, excuse me,
George Pickens, Cavante Turpin, just to make sure that they
they are as good to go. But trust me, when
that bar gets kicked off, you're going to see George
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Pickins on.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Life and going off of player safety real quick.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Just to clarify, there was no actual practice, full fledged
practice yesterday.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It was a walkthrough coer and that is an estimated.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
If there was a practice yesterday, these guys would be
inactive or did not practice.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
And speaking of George Pickins, what about him? Jerry Jones
said something else about him? Oh no, he was asked,
of course, because you know, it's George Pickens and he
should be asked. He should be asked. Jerry Jones was asked,
is there a is there a version of the multiverse
in which he does not envision or see George Pickins
in a Cowboys uniform after twenty twenty five? And I quote, no,
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I do not. We've got two number one receivers and
that's just exceptional at a time when our quarterback is
at the best he's ever been. End quote Jerry Jones.
Jerry neither Jerry nor Shoddy, nor Dak nor CD nor
anyone you speak with is being koy Isaiah when it
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comes to George Pickings. Okay, they are all yeah, no,
they are absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I'm glad they're not that guy can't stands.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
I don't like that. I don't like that.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
But all these guys, including upwards to the ownership, they
are standing on the front porch center stage to let
George Pickens know. There's one way to let him know.
Fact now, Jerry Jones was also.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Asked invite them over for dinner, given.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Given how the market is, and given how George giving
I like that, given how the market is, and given
how George Pickens is playing, would he be Jerry comfortable
with a situation in which possibly George Pickens earns more
than ceedee lamb. I will say he deflected that one.
He got that thing right there. So basically Jerry Jones said,
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let's just just just pump the brakes on that kind
of stuff. Let's just see how everyone around there. He
was like old man. So yeah, so that's what we
all right now with I don't think about with David
Schapel and a racial draft. Now wait one dog, I'm
midnute run.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Now, uh. Kind of going along the same lines, there.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We we had uh, we had Stephen Jones on pregame
Live this week, as we normally we did, and I
asked him the question I asked him. I was like,
we were just finishing talking about George Pickens, so it
was a natural transition to ask about George Pickens and
the future that he has. He was kind of a
little less upfront about it than Jerry was, but I thought,
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and you can go back and listen to it. It's
posted on YouTube. It's posted on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So dot com.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Sorry it is going. Sorry, I'm living at the analytics man,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So it's up on YouTube, up on Dallas Cowboys dot
com and you can go look at it whenever you want.
But the interviews about midway through the show, and asked him,
has there ever has there been talks? And he was like, yeah,
pretty much, there's been talks now between Pickets and the representatives,
but within the front office is the question, but not noncommittal,
Like it wasn't noncommittal, but he was just kind of
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less upfront about everything.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Non committal us done. It's hoisty everything, like that's where
people need to understand, like you could pat him on
his back, you can give him a high five, you
can give him a Jason Garrett slap on the cheeks.
At the end of the day, it's it's always going
to be noncommittal until he gets the bag. You know
what I'm saying, Like it just is what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It is.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That's how you show guys nowadays. Nowadays, guys just they
want their cash, they want their bread. Which the only
way that you you could promise me you can send
me a dog on a letter, put it in my locker,
and not until I get that bread. I agree.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Pay the man. Pay the man.
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Know, buddy, Right, it's time for a little bit of some.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Why Eddie, why Eddie cut up? It's time for QB
vision with Isaiah's standback.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Guys, here we go week thirteen. That sounds crazy to say, Yeah, well,
it's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
It is giving of thanks. I'm sure mister Pickens would
love them to be thankfully giving. On the way, how
about we hand out some l's. Starting off with the
Kansas City Chiefs though, okay, Casey's coming to the town,
coming to get that work. Let's talk about their defense. Okay,
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where do I see them being most dangerous? What do
they do the best? It's a great question. Well, first
of all, they have somebody that I have the utmost
respect for as their defensive coordinator, and Steve Spagnodle, Yes,
he is amazing.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
He's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
H Mickey spag No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
They probably related though different spells. It's all the same.
It's like William and Williams.
Speaker 6 (19:11):
Mickey went into the witness related Kyle go back in
the history books, which switch a couple.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, he's he's really good. I have the utmost respect
for him. I can tell you one thing about him.
So we call him Spags. Okay, let nobody says. Spags
is somebody who wants to put you in the situation
to get you in third and long. That's that is
like literally the blueprint first bags. He wants.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
That's not a good thing for the offense, is it.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
No, it's not. I'm just telling you what he wants
to do. Okay, This is when Ken City's most dangerous.
King City is most dangerous when they get you in
third and eight, third seven plus, right, that's when they
send the dogs after you. Spags wants to light you up.
He will send He has a whole green book full
of blitzes and he wants to get after you. That's
what he wants to do. They take away the run.
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That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
They make it very difficult for you to run the ball.
And there's a dude in the middle of their defense
that makes that a little bit difficult.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Is that number ninety five?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, ninety five, Yeah, Christopher Christopher Jones, Yeah, big ninety five.
He's a problem when he wants to be he takes
plays off. He takes plays off. You turn the film on.
You can't help. But notice the fact that he is somebody.
If he doesn't want to be blocked, you can't block him.
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Not to mean guys. You can say that about in
this league. There was Aaron Donald years ago, but he
didn't take plays off. Chris Jones is like that. Different
body type, different build, different different techniques for sure. But
difference is he takes plays off. He doesn't go one
hundred percent all the time. You can frustrate him, you
can fluster him to the point where he just literally
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is just checking the box. You like to get him
to that point. But I say all that to say
that you have to find some way to get some
movement at the line of scrimmage. These guys do a
good job at up front clogging things up, okay, in
terms of their interior linemen, consuming your three interior linemen
and the things that we've been talking about by our
linebackers the last few weeks, which is playing downhill. They
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do that. These guys fly to the ball down hill. Now,
how does that help you? If you can have some
form of a consistent running game, some form of beause
I'm talking about three yards in the cloud of dust
here and there no negative plays, obviously, you can then
get to your play action game.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
DAK does a really good job of play action. They
don't do a great job against play action quarterbacks. There
is plenty of space behind their second level defenders because
they're so aggressive in the run defense. They want to
play downhill. They play fast. This is a fast defense.
Let me say that across the board, this is a
defense that is freaking kohonas to the wall. They're going
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down here. They're trying to hit you right and they
want to stop you at the line of scrimmag so
that they can blitz. If you can get their respect,
demand their respect for which you're rushing attack, you think
it can kill them. In a passing game off of
play action, you can literally destroy them. But you have
to get to that point, which means just you have
to gain that respect in terms of their secondary things
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that I or let me let me work down the line.
Chris Jones ninety five somebody I have high regard for.
George carl Offtis is somebody I used to rant and
rave about. He's taken not one step back this year,
he's taking two steps back. In my opinion. He's not
the guy he used to be. He used to be
in the category of like not Max Crosby in terms
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of his productivity, but it's like a second n but
in terms of like just relentless effort, just an absolute
mad man that used to be him that I'm not
seeing it on film this year. I want to be
his fan. I want to cheer for him, you know,
not this week, but I don't. I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
What are you seeing differently from his performance last year
versus this year?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I think his leverage, I think his leverage and his effort,
his will doesn't seem to be there as much to
win those matchps. Those Yeah, So between him and Chris Jones,
those are two guys that used to make their defense
pretty dog undominant. And there's a reason why these guys
don't have the record that they used to have because
these guys aren't as impactful now at the second level.
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They got some guys at the second level, Okay, Drew Tranquill.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I like him.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I like him. I like the way he plays twenty three.
He plays downhill. Whenever they want to get pressure on
third down, you're gonna get pressure. Just lay that out
there right now, Okay, third down, I don't care if
they're bringing it. They're bringing it. It could be third and sixteen.
This fact, you're getting pressure on third down. So all
the fans out there, antenna is up. On third down,
they're bringing somebody, okay, and usually it's five guys. They're
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gonna bring at least five okay, and it'll guys to
be walked up, they'll drop out. You never know where
it's coming from. They do a really good job of
disguising where they're bringing pressure at their safeties. Don't move
into the last second. They do inversion, they do match,
They do a lot of cool stuff that you don't
see from most teams because they don't have the discipline.
These guys have the discipline. These guys have the understand
and they play fast. So at the second level, Drew
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Tranquil somebody. I really like Nick Bolton. He's not what
he used to be either. I think he's a good player,
but he's not as dominant as he used to be.
So those are two guys that Bolton I used to
cheer for. He's not that man no more in the secondary. Okay,
Trent McDuffie, I have no choice but the cheer for him.
He's he's a really good player.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
He's a UB.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
He's a U Dub guy, but he's also a Dub
guy who's damn good. He's damn good. He's the one
cover guy. Then I'm like, okay, put some respect on it, man,
put some respect on it. They're gonna they like to
play two high safeties predominantly, but they really, like I said,
they do a great job of disguising they I mean there,
it is late. Sometimes it's after the snap that they're
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moving their safeties. But what they're playing isn't always that disguised,
is not that tricky. If they're playing man the man,
their corners are looking head up. If they're playing man
to man and they're bringing cornerback blitz or Nicola back
blitz with with Roland Wallace, then number thirty, I know
right he'll be he'll be looking up, looking up, and
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right before the snap his eye you'll see his head
turn right a lot of times you'll see DB's with
their eyes and there's really quarterbacks are depending on the
receivers to communicate that, hey, his eyes have now shifted
to you instead of me. Right, So a lot of
times you'll see receivers line up in the slot and
if somebody's walked out over the top of them. One
of the main indicators is a safety kind of being
twelve yards off over the top of that guy so
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that he can roll down. They do a good job
of sitting at safety inside so it's not as noticeable,
but if that guy starts looking in, you need your
receivers to communicate the deck hey, hey, hey, head up,
head up, head up. You know you got we got
have a nickelback blitz coming here. Clean that one up.
Kind of kind of Jalen Watson Number thirty five. Tostitos
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Tostedo's Plaza Tostedo's plaza. If he walks upon you throw
the ball up.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
For those that may not listen every single day, what
is the Tostitos.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Tostito's Championship Plaza is right out here, okay, at the
star but we also yeah, but Tostito's is also a
ebonics term for getting getting roasted getting toasted.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
But I will argue Isaiah standback. According to Pro Football Focus,
he's ranked number six overall in quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
H oo wow, throw it up, he said, Throw it up, Dak.
If you see thirty five walked up on any of
your receivers, it up. Throw it up on ampt throw
it up. Bro. I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
So Like, he's not a very physical cornerback.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
No, and he's not the fastest dude in the world either, right,
so he gets beat. So even if they're disguising their coverages,
they like to play match. Okay, So I'm done talking
about the individualsA. There's not much else.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Can I Can I ask a balient individual?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Yes at a moment, yes, yes, one.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
We're in for it.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
They're safety twenty seven Chamai Connor. I like him too.
If they want to bring pressure, it's gonna be twenty
three or twenty seven. Those are their blitz guys. So
if you're at the line of scrimmage and you want
and you're in a situation that they need to force
you into a fourth down, or they need to force
you into a long third down potentially on second, find
twenty three or find twenty seven. If you find those
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guys most likely, that's probably where the coming. That's those
are their hunters on their defense.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I feel like you could argue the same for Dallas
defense and number twenty seven Ready Stewart. I mean it's
like this, as soon as he gets with the lines
are like, oh this is good, it's gonna be.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
But Ready's been playing out the linebacker level. They've been
playing Ready like a linebacker.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I like Ready, I really do.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I really liked what they're doing with that. They've been
playing a five to one with Ready walk down as
a linebacker.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Two things here.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
First off, that's kind of been Spag's whole thing is
that weird secondary blitz and where they're going to bring
up from. And they always seem to have one or
two guys that they can rely on do that. I mean,
you think back just a couple of years back, whenever
they've been winning the Super Bowls, it was different guys
popping up, and then it was the honey Badger in
the backfield that was doing a couple of different things
like that when they but they kind of rotate through
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those guys. It's not just one guy or so the
system where those guys are placed that allow them to
be successful and make it harder to diagnose exactly, and
so that's something that Dak's going to have to do.
The second thing about it is I can't get past.
Of course, these two teams don't play a lot. They
play every four years, every year ears at home, and
so when they play each other, the game stick out
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in my head, and so I can't get the way
that Chris Jones dominated the game against Dak Prescott and
company last time out of my head.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That had three and a half sacks.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Back in twenty twenty one, it was a nineteen to
nine final score. Just this sloppy game at Arrowhead. If
you think back to it, Dallas was seven and two
going into that game. They had all sorts of Super
Bowl talk and all the different championship caliber players, and
they felt like they had what it took to take
on a team that had just come off of.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
A Super Bowl instead or Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
But instead they got beat pretty handily and kept in check,
mostly because of Chris Jones. Remember he's got a personal
connection with Dak Prescott. They were teammates at Mississippi State
and we're in the same draft class together as well.
So you talked about how they've taken a step back.
Carl Loftus has never played the Cowboys, Chris Jones only
his second chance as a starter to play at Cowboys.
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Are they two guys that even though they haven't played
the best this season and that you still have to
circle because they've got they've got a little bit of
a vendetta there against Dubash, I mean the different reas.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah, guys could turn it up to turn it down, obviously.
I'm not sure that George Carloff is in a position
to turn it to turn it down.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I feel as if his overall well being physically isn't
what it used to be. You know, I don't think
he has the capability to play the way he used to.
I don't think that's more. I don't think that's a
decision on and off type of decision. He doesn't have
that character. What I understand I think is physical limitation.
In terms of Chris Jones, he is a lights on,
lights off type of guy. Okay, so he can literally
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I mean, Cooper BB has to really sure himself. Okay,
he got his butt kicked by Jayalen Carter this past week,
Chris Jones was watching that film let's just call it
what it is, and Chris Jones is he lines up
as a one technique, But I'm talking about a one
technique that's almost a zero like he's he's on. He
is face mask to face mask with the center. So
Cooper BB, you gotta buckle up, buddy, buckle up. One
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thing I wanted to say about their coverage real quick
before we get up, before we pass off to next
section here, this is a team that you have to
be okay taking the five yard pass. You yes, Jake, Yeah, Jake,
Jake from State Farm bro.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You hate what they give you.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
You have to be able to get him a sponsor,
not a sponsor. We don't have any insurance sponsors. You
have to be able to we do.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
There's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, I don't get that money. So we need
to get up contract life. So get the ball underneath
and be okay getting the ball underneath. This is a
team that you can frustrate, Chris Jones. You can frustrate
Bolton and all these other guys by just chipping your
way down the field. What does that cause Spags to do?
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Spags does not like that. He wants to get pressure,
he wants to blitz, he wants to hit you in
the face. They get high off of that. They're going
to give up some plays. Hey, you find thirty five.
I'm not saying to not throw towards Trent McDuffie, but
just understand that you're putting the ball at risk. He's
he's that guy, right, So you take your shots when
necessary against him. But you can win over the top
on these guys, but it has to be in a
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play action game, and it has to be when they
go single high. When they go single high, make them pay.
They want to be too high, and even when their
safety is down near the box, they'll roll out. They'll
go to a cover two. A lot of times they're
matching k which means that they're playing two man. The
outside guys are gonna go sit on the inside shoulder
of your outside receivers, and these guys are gonna kind
of be in a trail technique, which means that they're
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kind of funneling your receivers towards the safeties. Right, they're
kind of going high low on them, right, They're kind
of trying to squeeze them in like ice cream sandwich.
When they're playing single high safety. Even if they're playing
cover three okay, which means your outside corners have the third,
they're gonna match your inside receiver. That means that the
inside receiver is gonna have somebody playing him man cover.
So even their zone defenses are still have they still
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have guys playing man technique. So you have to be
able to win a contested catches. And they're when they
play single high, their linebackers get depth. I'm talking about
ten yards twelve yards deep. Take the underneath. You go
back and watch the Denver game. RJ. Harvey had a
number of plays where it literally just came out of
the backfield, just dumped it to them, caught it, get
some yeat garbage, and like they just couldn't do anything
about it. You can see them looking at each other
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like I'm doing my responsibility in this coverage. What the
heck am I supposed to do? In Denver's like thank you,
thank you. We'll take this. At this is what you're
gonna give us, We'll take it. I'll throw three yards
and let them run for eight. You have to be
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Speaker 2 (34:52):
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Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah, to borrow from the greatness of the Kate washst
out of the week, Just something popped in my head,
not just in when I turned the page to the Chiefs,
but in read the magnificence of QB Vision Air five
for my absolutely killed QBS always does. This game is
gonna come down to one simple thing for me, looking
at the fact that the Chiefs escape that win against
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the Coats because they shut down Jonathan Taylor to the
point of having nine run stuffs on sixteen of his
rushing attempt. That's how they were able to keep the
game mostly one dimensional. Spatanuolo was able to pin his
ears back more often than not. If Javonte Williams plus
sprinkling some Elie Davis, if the Cowboys can rush for
at least eighty five meaningful yards, meaningful not garbage time
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yards when you're down fourteen points in the games I known.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
On, I'm saying early and often, early.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And often, if the Cowboys can rush for a combined
eighty five yards, maybe sprinkling a touchdown, that's cool, But
eighty five yards wins you this game. On the ground, well,
it allows you to Chris Jones for example, Chris Jones,
he is dynamic. Yeah, when he wants to be dead
when he starts getting frustrated. When he starts getting frustrated,
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he starts checking out, Yeah, exactly, So make him check
out by being effective on the ground. Eighty five yards
on the ground, and I think the Cowboys get away
with a win.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
They're three and two, so at least for me, in
terms of the run defense, they are ranked eighth overall
in run defense. They are averaging about ninety seven points
six yards per game. I think eighty five. I'm okay
with that meaningful early in the game, that would be clutch.
But one of the telltale signs for me. They're length
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ranked eleventh overall in pass defense, but over the last
three weeks they've given up two hundred and forty plus yards.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
In each of those.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
But I'm saying, I'm saying that, like, if you're leaning on,
like we're talking about, you want to get the run
involved early, and often you have to.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
You have to set it up.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
And I think Dak Prescott going up against Steve Spagnola
and Kyle has sat right now going up against the Spegnola.
How has Dak Prescott favored in the past.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
He's three and two.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
He lost those two games when he was the defensive
coordinator in New York with the Giants as a rookie.
So the two games that he lost there were both
as or no, he's two and three, excuse me, So
he lost those two He won in twenty seventeen two
games against the Giants, So twenty sixteen two losses, twenty
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seventeen two losses, and then the one in twenty one
whereas is the only time that Spagnola has been on
the Kansas City staff playing against Dak Prescott, so two
and three against Spagnol.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I think, with Dak on a heater here after throwing
three hundred plus yards in this last game, I think,
of course, you want to set up the run.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
But I expect Dak to have a big game.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I really do, and I hope George Pickens is ready
for it, and of course Cede Lamb as well.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
I'm really looking at it right here. First two, just
going by the losses for the Kansas City Chiefs. First
loss was against the Chargers, and the Chargers had a
combined I want to say, eighty nine rushing yards. They
lost to the Eagles in a close one. Eagles won
by three, but say Kuan had eighty eight yards averaged
four yards per carry. Let's see what's going back through.
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Their next loss was against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Was that
ninety so they broke the one hundred yard mark the
Jacksonville Jaguars did on the ground and Buffalo Bills. They
lost to the Bills by a touchdown James Cook one fourteen. Again,
so you're seeing a trend here. If you can get
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at least eighty five, preferably one hundred. You always want
to get a hundred yard game in the ground, but
if you can get I don't. I don't want to
make the Bowl predictions, said Javonte Williams is going to
go out there against this defense and run for one
to twenty five. But if you get eighty five meaningful yards,
you do it early, you do it often, You do
it with a chunk play here there. Make them respect.
Then then you can expose everyone in the secondary whose
last name is not MCDUFFI I am okay with us
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not getting eighty five as long as we run at
least eight screens. Okay, you know what I mean? Like,
like you understand it's the count. Yeah, So like I
treat screens and most teams do it right as run plays.
So if I can get the ball out to a
quick swing screen out to Javonte Williams right, or Malik
Davis or whoever it is, right, it's not gonna be
our receiver. Receivers, please, receivers be receivers. Don't not running
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not running backs, but not running back. Those are those
are quick hitters that get us outside of the box
where they're most dominant, and you get out on the
edge and now you're just asking your receivers to block
right and you can steal. You're stealing five yards. What
is five yards to you? It's a run play, it's
a it's a it's a it's a highly accurate run
play that gets you out of their strongest point and
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gets you out to their weakest point, which is out
on the edges. I truly think if you run eight
to ten screenplays against this team and you have success
with it, now, there's always gonna be one or two
that might get stuffed, right, But I'm taking the over,
especially with now Jonathan Mean go back right, his ability
to be out there on the edge. I'm taking the
over with our ability to be able to have a
consistent screen game that acts as our run game. Now
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that I'm not saying that you can letely abandoned the run,
but what I'm saying is, if there's a freaking brick wall,
let's just understand that it's a brick wall. Do we
try to find a weak spot in the brick wall,
of course, but ultimately it's still a freaking brick wall, right,
So you take what you can get. Right, there's a
wall here, and it's soft over there. I'm going to
the drywall. I'm not going I'm not gonna keep hitting
the dog on brick wall. Let's go to the drywall. Right,
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That's exactly unless you're cool. Aid shouts out to the
Cowboys social team. That was funny sensation.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
That was good.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
If you haven't checked it out yet, dak is aid
Man running through a brick yeh of the Philadelphia Eagles.
We've got to get some calls. It is a talking Tuesday.
Eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven.
Give us a call.
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Give us a call eight eight eight eight five five
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Speaker 2 (40:56):
Now, let's go to Dano in Florida, our first caller.
I'm not talking Tuesday. Hey, Dano, you got us?
Speaker 7 (41:06):
Hey, guys, how are you anytime you beat the pigeons.
It's a great week.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
I got a couple observations more than anything else. First
of all, you know, at the draft last year when
they drafted uh Tyler Booker number one, I was like, okay,
that's the take on you know, those the beasts in
the east of Steve tackles with the Giants and the Eagles,
and I'm going to tell you something I watched. I've
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watched the game twice already, and he totally destroyed Jalen Carter.
He did he took him to the woodshed. He really
was something. It was impressive to see what he did.
Speaker 9 (41:52):
I thought.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
The other thing is Ferguson. I know early in the
year everybody was talking about, you know, he caught thirteen
balls in a game or whatever the case was. But
you know, he catches three yard out and he you know,
we gained four yards on it. This is the first
first game I thought where he uh, he played with violence,
a real level of violence, and it was fun to watch.
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I just thought it was great. The other thing, in
terms of the defense, boy Williams, what a what a
difference up front he's making. I mean, the linebackers are
playing better. Uh. Obershawn Is He's just a beast. I
like uh. I like Lloyd's edition. And I'm a big
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believer that Murray should not really be on the field
that much. That uh, the person that should be on
the field is the kid from Florida. I just think
he's he brings more to the table, and and you know,
I just want to go back to the tragedy of
a few weeks ago. I went through a very similar
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situation in college. We were playing in the semi finals
of the national championship game the week after Thanksgiving. We
had to be back the Friday after Thanksgiving and you
walk into the quad at two o'clock and there's a
bunch of people sitting around crying and crying and you know,
wailing like there was no tomorrow. And you find out
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that the captain of the basketball team had been killed
in a car accident down in Monticello. And you know,
we were kids, you know, seventeen eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty
one year old kids, and we just didn't handle that well.
It was really hard. They didn't bring in therapists or anything.
That wasn't the thing back then. But I just wanted
to throw that out here because they thought the Cowboys
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had handled it just so so well. I mean, you know,
they deserve all the credit in the world for the
way they handled it, the way that the team came around,
the way the front office handled it. So I just
want to throw that out to you folks. Hey, you guys,
have a happy thing. Talk soon.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Same Thanks, Dane. Appreciate the call, especially that final plat. Yeah,
it was good, and I completely agree. I think you
got to give a lot of credit to the resources
that this staff and that this front office have given
the players over the last three weeks now since it
certainly happened with Marshawn neland and it's never going to
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go away. And I think we've seen that over the
last two weeks. It's still very much so a topic
of conversation and a point of motivation and a point
of sadness for a lot of these guys. I mean,
they're missing their brother during the last two games when
they're winning, they should have him right there with him,
and to a certain extent.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
He is right there with him, but just not physically.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
And that's that's what to play relentless football Ford, to
honor him. And here we aren't two games in and
done that. We're seeing it. They had a stumble obviously
several to start against the Eagles, but boy, they looked
over at that jersey, They looked over that flag that
Osa brought them to the field of at ninety four,
and they're doing for ninety four, so Hurst will brother,
they are they're playing their So.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, the other points that that dan O may there's
a lot of them there. Anyone that's stuck out to
you specifically that you want to keep on talking about here.
Speaker 6 (45:13):
No, I thought he had great points. I mean, I
love what he said about Quinn Williams. Of course he's
a difference maker a game. But the Jamar James over
that is a little too early for me because I
like what Kenneth Murray's doing now that he has a
little more help in the front around him. I mean,
he recovered a fumble for you. He's a good heads
up player past break up the week earlier. I think
he's a solid veteran to have in the lineup currently.
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And I think he's only helping your other guys. He's
helping Demo. He's helping basically clean up a lot of
things for you that it might not be bouncing off
of the tape or not be spotlighting off the tape.
But to me, I think it's good to have the
veteran prisons out there, and I think Shamar James is
learning from a guy like that.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Yeah, do we have time for a quick call.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
We have one more Mike in New York. You're on
the line.
Speaker 9 (45:57):
What up, Mike, what's going on? Guys to give a
first set. Obviously Cowboys on Sunday that was fight that
was that was Regillians and fight like down twenty one points.
That's just like everybody's like, oh, they're not gonna come back.
I'm like, the Cowboys are gonna make adjustments at halftime.
And I give it to our defense because they really
shut out a team like that in the second half
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and then you know, offense picked it up and stuff
and Pickens was from phenomenal CD. I think you off
a bounce that game. You just had one of them games.
He had an off days. It happens, you know, unfortunately,
you know it's like, you know, we pick on eighty eight.
I'm like, well, you know it's gonna happen. It's gonna
just gonna happen. You're gonna have an off day. It happens.
You know, it's gonna you know, one player plays good
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and the other dozen. So it's just one of those
things that's gonna happen. Which you guys have happy holidays
as well, So how going.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
Yeah, thank you, biddy.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I think one of the things he said there is
they made adjustments at halftime. But Isaiah, I give you credit.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
On the post game show, you were saying they made
adjustments before halftime. Getting the score to Pickings right before
the break was big. But also the defense, the way
that they were playing at the end of the second
quarter was kind of indicative of what we would see
as time went on.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, they made their adjustments, and that's why it's scoring
before the half was so important, because it wasn't It
wasn't much that they were doing necessarily incorrectly, at least offensively.
It was just that they were just making too many
dog on mistakes, right, So they weren't being stopped, they
were being self inflicted wounds. I know that's always a
very argumentative point there when you're facing an appontent that's
kicking your butt. But they they figured it out. They
stopped the bleeding, and they progressed for it. Defensively, they
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started making adjustments in terms of stopped playing offso dog
on much that that was the thing that was killing them.
They were playing off coverage just kill them all year long.
I'm hoping that that changes. Hoping I know that eber
flu sees it. I just think that he's more so
in the mindset of being but don't break type of
defense at this point in time, and I think you've
seen a minimum if you've seen that minimized. But when
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teams are getting the big plays now, it's because it's
just an amazing play. It's not so because it was
busted coverage. So I think he's okay with that. I'm
not okay with teams being able to go throw the
ball and get seven yards of pop. That's what I'm
not okay with. I think it was fantastic points that
he made. First and foremost. I can't stress enough exactly
how freaking fun that was to witness, and I will
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point it out until the end of time because that
just doesn't expire. You got took twenty one zero, you
still got took. But that being said, I love what
you guys are saying, and I love what he said.
In fact of the matter is the Cowboys did have
halftime adjustments that went out and clamped him on defense
and still took a little bit for the offense to
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get going. They did get the George Pickens touchdown right
before halftime. But I will say going against the Chiefs.
When your defense is playing as well as this defense
started playing in the second half against the Eagles, and
you see punt punt punt and your offense goes out
and you know, punt punt turnover like that can't happen.
So finally they were able to get things going. But
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I like that this defense is showing me it can
give you chances and get the ball back into the
hands of that Rescott in the offense now going against
the Kansas City Chiefs, when your defense does that, you
better score the damn football. And you cannot and I repeat,
I know, we'll talk about it tomorrow. You can't play
offer versus the guys like this is not the offense.
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We playing eight yards off like you get up there,
they will, Isaiah, they will run a twenty play drive
and be okay with like and there's any readers, like
that's what you want to give us, Fine, we'll take it.
There's a standing lab coat tomorrow about the offense in
that passing attack that goes to Isaiah's point.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
But you got to we've got lab coat, We've got
get your popcorn ready, We've got pick'em's tomorrow. There's a
lot going on in tomorrow's show. Isaiah is gonna wake
up a little bit better tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
It's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Is gonna be okay.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Three wills strike, three years, take a swing.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
For Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back who did
a great job on QB Vision today that.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I will say he's oh that.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
He almost whipped out there. We'll see you tomorrow with
more Talking Cowboys. Thanks for watching.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
Do you have two undred seventy degrees?
Speaker 7 (50:10):
Ophul?
Speaker 3 (50:10):
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