December 5, 2025 • 50 mins
Kyle Youmans, Patrik Walker, Isaiah Stanback, and Josh Rodriguez react to the Cowboys’ heartbreaking 44–30 loss to the Lions, where special teams mistakes, O-line struggles, and defensive misfires dragged Dallas back to reality. The season isn’t over, but the path is narrow. The crew breaks down what it would take to recover and fight through the final four games.
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Your Chest Friday.
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After the Cowboys fall forty four to thirty the final
score in Week fourteen, Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,
in the s WBC studio. Welcome in, everybody. We've got
Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Roderiguez, Isaiah stand Back, Chris Beam
in the back of Kyle Yeoman's Cowboys fall to six
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six and one and their playoff hopes take a severe hit,
a severe dash to the end, and with one month remaining,
they're not out of it mathematically, but man, they're gonna
need a lot of help from here on out. And
you got to win pretty much everything else from here
on out in order to do so. So I'll open
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the floor forty four to thirty. It wasn't pretty in
any phase. There were a lot of mistakes on any
phase of the imagination of this one offense, defense, special teams.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Patrick. Since you were in the building at Ford Field,
I will.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And since you had to get up early this morning
to be on the charter flight to get back here,
I'm gonna let you start.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm not sure what you're excited about it. This is
a bad game. No, this is a bad game.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But Josh and I for all the sneaker heads, they
know we just got to drop this one. And we
successfully acquired the Diamond Turfs Dim Cowboys color Wow. So
we were waiting for the nine am drop got them
and get them breakfast right today?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
All right, So to the Cowboys, Yeah, where do you
start when there are so many places that you can start?
I mean, we talked about how the defense looked different
coming out of the bow week, and they most certainly did,
so we're not going to take anything away from that,
But we also talked about how this was going to
be the test for them. Now we didn't know going
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into this game if Amo Rod Saint Brown would play
or not. Not only did he not only did he play,
but Dan Campbell made sure that the Cowboys understood he
was going to be a big part of the game
plan from the word go okay. They didn't have an
answer for him. They didn't have an answer for Jamison Williams,
and they absolutely did not have an answer for Jamiir Gibbs.
Now we sat here on this at this panel and
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we say that you know, Jamier Gibbs, He's going to
get his every once in a while. Boy, it turns
out every once in a while is far more often
than I would have liked to see. They couldn't cover
him in space at all, which goes on the struggles.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
At the linebacker corps.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Not going to just yet start pointing out names, we
just know the linebacker corps as a whole struggled mightily
last night against Jamier Gibbs, David Montgomery. You know, not
that David Montgomery had a fantastic game, but the play
that he had. When you look at that play and
break it down, ironbacker Corps, going back to that flip
it to the offensive side of the ball for the Cowboys,
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and shouts out to Ceedee Lamb because he had the
bounce back game on Thanksgiving against the Chiefs, So then
it was about stacking those kinds of days. He was
taking the Lions out back and beating them to within
an inch of their life. They had no answer for
Ceedee Lamb before he got knocked out with that concussion.
Knocked out of the game, I should say, with that concussion.
Once he got knocked out of the game, that concussion,
Cowboys had no offense. That was pretty much that you
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got to see more from George Pickens. We'll get to that.
I'm quite sure you know. Javonte Williams, he did what
he could. Man your offensive line got manhandled. I mean
that's just absolutely manhandled.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's the problem in my eyes.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, huge, just And I want to go ahead and
just blame Isaiah standback because I told you not to
piss off Aiight Hutchison. I told you, I said leave
that damn bear alone. Didn't I say it? But did
you do it? No?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You did not?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Eight Hunchson ten pressures ten ten? How many pressures did
they have on the on the whole twenty eight and
had half of them? Man, Oh my god, I gave
Terryce Steel rightful praise for handleling Max Crosby. He deleted
Jalen Phillips, that interior with Tyler Booker, they handled Chris Jones.
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And here came another test with Aiden Hutchison and eight
Hutchison said, I heard tell somebody said I was not
in peak for him anymore. He went out there and
he showed that he was. So now we're back to
wondering what's going on with the tackles, because you know,
in Tyler Guiden's absence, now I've seen another bad outing
from Nate Thomas. I'll go back to what I said
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three weeks ago, two three weeks ago when Nate Thomas
went in when Tyler got and left with injury, and
Nate Thomas did not have a good showing at all.
Nate Thomas can be a serviceable swing tackle when you
need him to step in from time to time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, But for.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Those that are saying he's your full time guy, you're
seeing why he's not your full time guy. And that's
not to beat up on Nate Thomas because again Terry
Steele had a bad game. I saw Tyler Smith missing
a couple right the whole line right.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
The whole line struggled.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So, I mean Dak was under siege last night. I'm
just thankful that you know, QB one left in one piece,
because you wondering.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
If he was going to a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Jake Ferguson, he wants to take this tape and set
it on fire. There's probably I don't want to be
a prison of recency buying that you guys will. And
I think this was the worst game I've ever seen
from jke FB. I think so OPI call, yeah, it sucked.
It was egregiously bad. That's that helped turn the game.
That's not why you lost the game. When you see
Jake Ferguson on third and forever and he gets a
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check down on third and forever, and I get the effort,
but there are three or four guys on you. You're
not going to break three or four guys off of
you and run for another twelve yards. You're not doing that.
Just take the lower case L instead. It turns into
a capital L because it's fumble.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, it wasn't. What did they do? Wasn't that the
That was the David Montgomery touchdown that came after the
Ferguson bumble yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And then Fergie with the hands of the face that
deleted the DPI downfield.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It was all bad Josh's I think if you're a
detroit you probably saw a lot of weaknesses in the
Cowboys in terms of physicality and being able to run
to the ball and take advantage of them sort of
giving up when the play is over. The play isn't
over until the whistle. You hear the whistle, and in
a lot of those cases, Cowboys failed. You had a
lot of Dallas Cowboys players individually that had really bad
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performances from players that you would not ordinarily see in
my opinion, I mean, you've seen ups and downs this
year from Deron Bland. This is one of his worst games.
I feel like this is one of the worst games
from Kenneth Murray, who has struggled in and out during
the season. Terrence Steele and Nate Thomas. My goodness, what
a terrible game for those two. And it's something that
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you would expect them to have a better game, knowing
what is on the line here and just in.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Every facet those guys got whooped.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
It's unfortunate because you expect more out of them, even
though Nate Thomas is backup. I mean, we're talking about
if he should be competing for Tyler Giton's number one spot.
So that feels very unfortunate. Jake Ferguson, Like you said,
there were just so many individual performances. George Pickens. George
Pickens a guy that we've championed this whole season so far,
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and still to me, it's no doubt that he's also
a number one receiver along with Ceedee Lamb. To me,
there's no question about it. But the effort was in
question yesterday. But I feel like the Lions did a
good job of saying Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens are
not going to kill us, even though Ceedee Lamb for
a large part was killing him.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But you had him frustrated.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You were frustrating them enough to where they felt like,
all right, fine, you know, they kind of backed off
in their fundamentals and they were pressing.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So you felt that a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I mean, you got to be happy for Ryan Flinoy,
who had a great game all things considered, but you
really really needed one of George Pickens yesterday and you
just didn't get it. And even Dak for a large part.
I mean, you got to be able to understand where
the pressure is. If your tackles are not helping you,
you got to throw it away. Man, don't take take
the lowercase L. Do not take the capital l's. And
that's what happened quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I thought there were a couple of times where he
had no finish.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, he was still in the middle of that final plant,
but was gone.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Are we to say that he performed exactly how you
would expect Dak Prescott to play in a game where, yes,
he played exactly how you wanted to think he played.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That DA had listen, all right, let's let's talk. You
please talk, QB.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Tell me.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I'm I'm really frustrated. I'm really frustrated.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I sat here and going. I mentioned this last week,
I said going, or this week, I said going. Before
watching the film, I thought that Dallas was going to
take an L because physically, Detroit has always posed a
major threat to Dallas, and they always beat up Dallas.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They pumped, they punked Dallas. They just they punked them.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Even in the game that Dallas won two years ago
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Three, they were arguably the more physical team, so that
was remember I said, I said, I fear that Dallas
would get beat up.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But after watching the film.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Based upon the matchups and based upon what they proposed
in terms of their schemes, I felt like Dallas should
win this ball game. But physically I was always concerned
that stayed true. Dallas got physically beat up. They got
punked once again. They obviously stepped on the same field
with the same opportunity. One team played with energy, the
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other team played with no energy. One team continue to
fight back and get back in the game. But even
when they fight and get back in the game, you
had no sense of confidence because they weren't playing with
confidence in terms of effectiveness and execution. We sat there
on the pregame show and Kyle posed a question to
Nate Berry.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And myself, and he asked, if you were.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Going to shut down Dallas's offense, what would you do
if you're going to shut down this tandem? And I said,
I would play two men. I would get up at
the line of scrimmage. I would sit on the inside
hip pocket. I would contest them at the line of scrimmage,
and then I would sit underneath their hip all the
game long, with the safety over the top.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What did they do two men the entire time?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
I also said, if they choose to do that, then
you have to go to Jake Ferguson because this defense
plays base defense. They don't really change much, and they're
gonna have a linebacker on one of your highest paid
players on your team.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And they did that all night long, as alone, all
night long was covering Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
As alone shouldn't be able to hold Jake Ferguson's tidy whities, right,
you can. You can complain about the OPI, you can
complain about the DPI, you complain about all the times
he got It doesn't matter that matchup did not get
highlighted enough. Let's just say that, Okay, they did not
take advantage of that. I told you sitting there. I
don't know, Colle's probably tired of me talking at the game,
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but I literally sat there. I said, if i'm Dak Prescott,
I'm going to Jake. Once I recognize the defense that
they're running, I'm saying, I'm throwing you the ball every
single time the change until they change.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Catch the dog on ball.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Right.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
We knew it was gonna be contested. Everything was gonna
be contested. This is a sicky team. They're fight. They're
gonna fight to the lights out. Offensive line was trash.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
They're not gonna makes offensive line was absolutely trash.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Yeah, you talk about Dak and his ability, you know,
sometimes to throw it away.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Dak was pressured many times.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
He was sacked five times on forty seven dropbacks, twenty
five times out of forty seven passes.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This dude was under duress. You can't do anything as
a quarterback with that. I can't.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I'm looking on the outside. Obviously, I'm getting the ball
to cdcd's doing his thing. Okay, even contested catches, amazing
catches with my CD. He goes out the game with
a concussion. Okay, boom, I have another number one. He's
gonna step up. No, he's jogging. Call it what it is.
He's jogging. There's no way he can watch this film
and dispute anything that anybody on TV or a period
right now is saying. He was jogging on routes, he
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was short arming routes, he was not giving a full
effort on a lot of things that we can point
to in that game. That's not what people want to
see out of your one B receiver. He has to
check himself on that. There's no disputing, no disputing its
old line was absolutely booboo. Javonte Williams did what he
did what he could do with what he was given. Defensively,
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he tried to I couldn't be more frustrated this defense.
I'm not going to call out names right now. There's
some people who shouldn't be out there. Some guys from
in terms of their execution shouldn't be out there. Some
guys based upon their physical abilities right now shouldn't be
out there.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Do you have much of a choice based upon the
guys that you have with that depth? Ah, I don't know,
but maybe you might want to put them in a
better position. But I do know that a Manros Saint
Brown versus fourteen yards off with a safety guarding him.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Is probably not going to stop him.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Putting Donovan Wilson fourteen yards away from Momara Saint Brown's
probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
A good scheme. And that was on first intent, first
and tent, and that was on multiple occasions.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Okay, just playing off, it's literally passed just routes on air,
just like if you get to the game early and
you watch teams warm up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's what a Mona Saint Brown did majority of the night.
He didn't have a contested catches. These are routes on air.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Jamison Williams fastest man on the field, no matter what
field he steps on, no matter what opponent. Why is
Marquis Bell playing manned man on him. One of your
slowest dbs is playing against the fastest man on the field. Schematically,
that makes zero sense to me. I'm not even gonna
talk about execution. I don't I'm not mad at Marque's Bell.
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He doesn't stand a chance.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, he doesn't stand put in the position to.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Be successful exactly, doesn't stand that.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
That's a scheme law. That's a scheme thing. So playing
off of Alamara Saint Brown is a scheme issue. Playing
zone defense and backing off eight yards of freaking Jamier
Gibbs when he lines up at receiver is the scheme problem.
There was scheme issues, there were executions issues. There was
issues across the board. I can go all day long,
but those are some of the things that were glaring
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in my eyes. We could talk about the Jay Ferguson fumble,
the effort there, it's hard. I'm frustrated. Yet he fumbled,
so did George Pickens. We just happened to fall on it.
You know a lot of things that are occurring that
have to be cleaned up. Obviously, this game you couldn't
afford to lose. They did lose it refrustrated or the
one positive that you could take away is that Dak
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didn't it hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, he's still available.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I mean, even Ceedee Lamb being out in George Pickens pride.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't know what it is, but there were a
lot of different than Brandon Aubrey. Brandon Aubrey, I gotta
give him hell, Yeah, kept in the game.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Brandon Aubrey kept single handily kept you kept.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
You get across the literally fifteen and we sat there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, that's not a one possession game at twenty seven
nineteen without Brandon Aubrey get across the fifties.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, like, and you can see that Dallas.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I don't want to project, I'm going to assume right
based upon what I saw, it felt as if Dallas
was satisfied getting across the fifty and saying we have
Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That's what it felt like. Dude. Sure it did, and
we've seen that happen before.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
We've seen that happen previously with another coaching staff that
was here.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, it's happened before and characteristic.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
When your safety blanket becomes your game plan, that's a problem.
And that's kind of what it ultimately felt like. And
I'm not gonna like you said, I'm not gonna projected
they were trying to go and score touchdowns. Should get
a twisted whatever they call a play period, it's to
try and score a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
That's just how football works.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
However, Brandon Aubrey absolutely a weapon. I think my number
one takeaway from this game is the way that the
defense did not continue the momentum from the three games
prior because they were put in bad situations. Don't get
me wrong, y'all have talked about offense, You've talked about defense.
You've talked about the positives of the special teams. How
about the fact that Detroit averaged a starting field position
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of forty two yard line outside of the final kneel
down in the game. According to sources, that is not good. No,
it is not. That means you only have to go
fifty eight yards per drive to score fifty eight yards
instead of seventy five or seventy or sixty five, All
of those things across.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
The board are certainly that's not good. Is that helpful
when you're eighty percent conversion at risk? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It is not helpful at all. So they were put
in a bad spot. Takeaways, the fumble from Jake Ferguson,
the interception at the beginning of the third quarter, Both
of those things hurt you tremendously. And it almost hurts
you again as you talked about with the fumble in
the red zone with George Pickens. So we talk about
complimentary offense a lot or complimentary football a lot is
what I right. This was anti complimentary. This was hurt
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full football. Your special teams hurt your defense, then your
offense hurt your defense, then your defense hurts your offense,
and then it just all kind of fell apart, and you.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Were absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I have a hard time looking at this game and
looking at this film and saying Detroit handled you. They
did physically, don't get me wrong. And I give a
lot of credit to Dan Campbell for getting these guys
up and ready to play. They had lost two of
three coming in, and there were a lot of things
on the line for Detroit just as much as there
was for Dallas. However, Dallas shot themselves in the foot consistently,
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over and over and over again. And there were things
that Detroit did better than Dallas, but there are a
lot of things Dallas left on the table.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And that's the most frustrating.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Listen, you guys, uh some excellent points, Kyle. You lost
to yourself absolutely you talk about the Cowboys schematics now,
execution issues were absolutely there again your linebackers, and not
necessarily to Marvey on over shown, but some of your
other linebackers, like Jared Goff threw four three hundred and
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nine yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, that's a solid stat line, a solid stat line.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Okay, two hundred and fifty yards of those, including that touchdown,
came when the Cowboys were in zone coverage. Cowboys ran
zone coverage eighty six percent of the time. Yeah, and
Jerick Goff just sat back there and decimated. You said,
how much eighty six percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
If I got an eighty six on a test, I'd
get like ice cream after after the test my way home.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Can I just point to something?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
No, see, while you're pointing out the zone, because you
guys know, I hate zone. I was literally about to
throw something through the telestrator.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, we had to hold them back.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Bro Listen, fourth quarter, you're down by eight one possession, correct,
just one. You literally are in a position to get
off the field, get the ball back to your offense
as bad as you're playing, as bad as you're playing,
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and you play seventy two yards off.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And you allow them to get in field goal range.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That drive, in particular, I was about to lose my mind.
You are three downs away from getting the ball back
into Dak Prescott's hands to have an opportunity to tie
the game up when your team is playing terrible, and
you back up schematically, you back up and say go
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ahead and get.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
In field goal range and make it a two possession game.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I can't comprehend it. I legit. We can point to
a lot of different things. Let's talk about that drive.
I need to understand what is the thought process to
play twelve yards off when you only need when they
only need to get balled ten to fifteen yards further
down the field to kick a field goal and put
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this game out of reach.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, the first time we've seen that this season either.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
And I'm talking to Kyle and I'm like, what about
situational football is not getting across that. This is a
time and place in the game where you go to
that call sheet and you're like, these five plays that
I mapped out is for this situation right here. These
are my five plays that I have. These are my
go getters, These are my break glass and area I
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need to play right now. You don't have five plays,
you don't have one.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Like that drove me crazy. It made no sense.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You were so close, like this game was right there,
and you backed up and you gave it to them.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Take it. You just take it here. You can have it,
routes on air, take it. Maybe you'll drop the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The same thing happened at the end of the second
quarter too, after you kick the field goal prior to halftime,
inside the two minute time out, playing so far off
that they easily walked down the field forty seconds, easily
walked down the field and kicked the field goals and
just completely negated everything you had done to that point.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's easy he did. He was trying, man. Yeah, it
was a This was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
When we come back here on talking Cowboys, I want
to hear from Patrick Nosey Walker. We got a little
lab coat, we got a makeup. We do coming in grum.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
We'll grumble, grumble, grumble. Get some stats.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
After this, we'll continue to break down the Cowboys forty
four thirty loss to the Detroit Lions when we come
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Special Teams unit. Not complimentary football to say the least. Now, Patrick,
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was a loaded show.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Short week.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
We had the greatness of QB visions. We certainly did popcorn.
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Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah, absolutely, it's time for lab coat. So a couple
of points here on lab coote one flies right to
the heart of what Isaiah is saying.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Again.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I was stated once again, the Cowboys ran zone eighty
seven percent of the time last night Jarreed Goff had
two hundred and fifty of his three hundred and nine
passing yards and his only passing touchdown when the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Ri in zone. Let's expound upon that just really quickly.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Isaiah is talking about the Cowboys being in third and
long situations, sometimes even second and long situations and playing
all the way back like I mean, they were in
all of it. They were in Texas trying to stop,
you know, a third and.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Eight lake erie.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Jered Goff just took everything that they gave. And we
talk a lot about taking what the defense gives you, well,
the Cowboys defense was given him all of it, and
he was taking all of it. Jerry Golf completed twenty
four of thirty three. Shouts out to MGS for this
twenty four of his thirty three attempts for two hundred
and seventy two yards and the touchdown, with most of
the production on quick passes, not downfield production. It was
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getting it out quick, quick, get it out into the
hands of your playmakers and let them make plays high percentage,
high percentage. He completed seventeen of his twenty one quick
pass attempts for a total of one hundred and sixty
seven yards and the tudy that is a quick pass
rate of sixty two percent. It's his highest mark in
the game since he signed with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Let him do it question, Hold on, I'm gonna say
this one more time.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Just what people understand? Yeah? Please?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, sixty cool. That's for the status nerds such as myself.
Let me just put it in plain language though. Jerret
Golf against the Dallas Cowboys on on Thursday Night football
just registered the highest success rate on his quick passes
in his entire career with the Detroit Lions. Zone coverage
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was early Christmas for him and those playmakers.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Really quick, how do you combat a really solid interior
defensive line?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Oh, get it out? Yeah, quick passes, get it out.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
But you know what, and then and and I just
want to wrap this up, no see, because I don't
want there to be this ideology that we're speaking negatively
about zone.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
All the time. We're not talking about.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
The time.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So even if let let's just go and put this
on it too.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
No see, there's a way to play zone eighty seven
percent of the time, even though I don't like that
without playing.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Far off, I don't like that zone.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
There are many ways to remain in zone and still
disrupt the releases of receivers. The one thing that receivers
hate when they're trying to get out into their routes
is to have to run around another person. I don't
want to have to deal with getting around you and
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then getting to my spot and then getting out of
my break and then catching the ball. But if you're
playing off, I don't have to worry about that because
once I cross five yards, by law, you can't touch me.
So you are taking away the advantage that you have
as a defender within that first five yards that they
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allot for to go up and make my job difficult.
So when you talk about eighty seven percent efficiency there
when you're playing fourteen yards, when you're playing twelve ten,
eight yards off of these receivers in the NFL. But
let's talk about a Manra Saint Brown in particular, one
of the best possession receivers I consider.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
You might not want to give him that five yard
grace period that you actually are gifted to go be
physical with him. And if you were ever going to
be physical with a Monro Saint Brown, it probably should
come on the heels of him not having practice because
of an ankle injury. I'm probably gonna go make his
life a little bit more difficult to get off the ball,
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be a little more physical, a little bit more physical
at least it's gonna get up there and force them
to go into a short motion.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Like oh they did that with Jamior gifts. Make them
do a.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Short motion so that you can't go up during disrupt
And that's what teams do to combat people, teams that
want to come up and press so you can play
zone defense while still disrupting releases at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Dallas for whatever reason, all season long, not just tonight.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Yeah right, this has been my This has been my
my issue I've had all season long, but it's specifically
in games that really matter.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You cannot give those gifts for you Christmas is here.
I get it. You can't give away gifts because you
just gave away your chance for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
So here's here's my question, because I want we've been talking,
especially because of the focus of lab Code on this
particular thing. I know a lot some fans are probably
listening to this and saying at this point they're saying,
but it wasn't only the defense. You're right, but it
was also the defense. You're right, it was the offense
as well. But it wasn't only the offense either. A
special team. So here's my question for all of the
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rightful criticism that eba Flues draws from the fan base
and from the analysts, when we see things like what
we saw last night Detroit Lions, when is everyone going
to start having the sorts and conversation.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh, we've had it, we were talking about that. I've
been had it.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Okay, it's a conversation that needs to be had, and
I believe it needs to be had in the front
office as well. Shoty needs to have a conversation with
his special teams coordinator because this is a special teams unit. Now,
thankfully Butter is still Butter, okay, but this is a
special teams unit that went from being the best.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
In the league, not even close best than yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Mean not even wasn't even arguable, no, to probably be
not even probably to be one of the worst in
the league. Now save for you know, effort from guys
like Elijah Clark a couple of weeks ago, save for
effort from guys like Samuel with the block field goals.
So you have like an individual standout here and there,
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here and there, but the unit as a whole, save
for those that have the consistency of Brandon Aubrey, Special
Teams has taken a massive, gargantuan step back, and I
feel like the criticism for flu still justified is kind
of saving Nick Swrtenson from criticism. Yes, I don't feel
like it's a conversation that needs.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
To be head No.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
See, I can tell you this. You guys are fan.
Our family have brought it up numerous times. You guys
have brought up numerous times friends and family and said
that I should get into coaching, and I've always been like,
heck no, not getting to coaching.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Kyle, what did I say last night?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
You said I think I could be a pretty darn
good special teams coordinator.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
He almost forced me into.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He was like, hold on a second. He's like, let
me go get my ball cap backwards. Visor, let me
go get that out of the car real quick.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Why do you say that isaim is?
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I don't feel this is my feeling. I don't feel
like he's connected to the Special Teams unit. I'll say
that I don't. I don't know him personally. I've been around,
I've seen I've seen his presence amongst that, and I've
experienced a lot of Special Teams coordinators in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
The most successful Specially Teams coordinators.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
That I've seen are either super savvy vets cats have
been around for a long time, old school cats right
that their players just ball out for them, right, just
old rugged cats. Or they're young guys with a lot
of juice and a lot of energy. Because Special Teams
is a special unit. It is a unit where you
are literally going out there in is seventy effort thirty
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percent execution.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's the dirty work.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
It's the dirty work, and you got to have somebody
that is the juice man. And I've never seen him
do anything, even a Jason Garrett clap. That's not to
say that he's not doing it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Think the biggest thing that I've seen him do was
after the second time getting on Turp. Second time that
it's happened in two weeks where Cavante Turpin does a
fake fair catch and then tried to return and and
it ends up being a penalty second time, and Sorenson,
I give him credit he got in the face of
turf and he was lighting up turp on the sideline,
which I don't know if that's a terp habit or something.
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I don't know's if it's a plan. That's even worse
if that was a plan. But it's done.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
It's been happened twice in a row.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It didn't happen with Boone and so I get onto
or I give.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Him credit for getting on to term. But that was
really the most emotion we've seen out of the guy
at any point in time.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, there's special teams has been a problem. It has
really quickly.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
To someone in the chat who asked, how was it
also offense's fault, it's because they got in their own way.
Talk about it, Jake, This is just quick and we'll
get back to special teams. Jake Ferguson's fumbled Jake Ferguson,
hands to the face.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Did they watched the game?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
The offensive line got offensive like Scott got hit eleven times, sacked,
five times, pressure twenty times.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's how the offense.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Ow Kwahem Mohammad, who you let go and braining camp last.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Year, had three sacks.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So three to answer that question, not Micah Parsons, not
Aiden Grudge, not not all these other Miles Garrett, these
JJ Watts. No, but no, it was al Quaheen Mohammad,
a high afford guy, high afford motor.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Never should have let walk out the door. Isaiah has
been very highly spoken about that form.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
But yeah, So circling back to special teams because I
want to hear josh Is standpoint on it, because it
sounds like he had some passion in that, uh in
that and some point.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I mean, it's it's hard to disagree that the Cowboys
are a worst special teams unit this year compared to
last year. You can't really dispute it at this point.
And like you said, it's much worse. And Brandon Aubrey
makes up for a lot of that because Brandon Aubrey
is Brandon Aubrey. But if you look at just mistackles,
just mistackles on special teams, that is what's really killing
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you right now. And we're talking about the position that
they had all game. That was a big part of
it too. It's it's not just punk coverage or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Kickoff coverage, kickoff off coverage, normal business really.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Bad last night, and and the game has changed, and
yet you kept kicking to the guy. So it's not
a knowing that you that your coverage is poor. I
don't have a problem with that. I don't have a
problem with that because in this new kickoff era. Okay,
back in the day I was, we were had to
run down on kickoff, it was L five L four.
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You had to get run into a wedge and a wall. Right,
you're going right, this new era, you're standing there, Yeah, exactly.
You're standing there and you're literally right five yards away
from a guy. Right, most of the time is you
versus that guy. You can scheme it up a little bit,
but majority of the time you have one on one matchups.
Beat your man, Yeah, beat your man. There are a
lot of drills that that you can do in in
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this in this game of football that will position you
to be successful. Personnel groupings matter, right, the type of
personnelities you have. What did I say last night? I said,
if I was on, if I was especially in the coordinator,
of my guys would be defensive defensive players.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, you said they needed a little edge to them.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
You gotta have some edge to them, you gotta have.
You got some defensive ends. You have some linebackers and
you got you have a bussy's cats in the mouth. Yeah,
I'm trying to if you have a hard chin strap,
I need that thing cracked by the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's it's a violent game. There's a violent game that
we play. So this is not pity.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Pat.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Let me let you get forty yards on a kickoff return,
which they did all night long, last all night.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
But you know, I said, you made a point that
I'm going to double down on because I don't want
fans to view it as a fleeting point. Just as
from player to player, there has to be chemistry in
each position group, in each unit.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
This Special Teams as a unit.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And this is coming from someone who's in the building
at every practice in the locker room, I talk to players,
and not to say that players are throwing, you know,
sore and center the bus. I'm not saying that at all.
But when you talk about the feel like these past
several seasons, it felt like Special Teams players would run
through a wall for bones fossil. I don't feel that.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I just I just don't.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It just it just feels like there are players and
there's the coach and it goes it's.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
A part of Burblo Quick even on Punk return and
you can see it, and I know people are going
to Turpen is one of the best punk returners.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
How many opportunities has he had?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Not a ton?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Not a ton? And you know what that goes to.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
It goes to the aspect of the game that a
lot of people don't pay attention to because they don't
really show it on the screen or you don't really
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's the hold up. It's the hold up.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Some of the great teams that I've been on we
worked to crap out of that drill in practice. Man,
the man, you're on film. We're highlighting this and we're
gonna watch it on film in front of the whole team.
Can you get a hold up on this dude? Come off,
put your hand on, crowding on your helmet and his
chance strap, sit your button down, lock up, and don't
let him off the line.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
There's a pride factor that comes with that. If I
do my job, and.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
If my partners do their job across the board, our
returnment has a chance. But if I come off and
I just hit him in and I let this dude
just throw me to the side, and run down the field.
Now turf has to fair catch, So there's a pride
factor that grows across the board and tech technical aspect
that people aren't paying attention to that is contributing to
why we're saying this about the special teams unit as
a whole.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So with all of that being said, special teams specifically
and everything pieced together here, we expected a drop off.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
When John Fossil left, right, you knew that was a
big lores.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
He's the best in the league, one of the best
special teams coordinators in football. Right now, you knew there
was going to be a drop off, and I don't.
I'm not even so that as a knock toward Nick Sorenson.
But the drop off has been far severe, or far
more severe than I think we even anticipated going into
the year. There's got to be a significant change in
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the special teams unit to make it worthwhile to have
that conversation or to push aside that conversation as these
final four games go along. All right, we got to
get another break in here. When we come back, We're
going to talk about the games that are on the
docket this week. We're going to actually make some picks.
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This segment has brought to you by invisi Line, the
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Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah's standback with Chris Beam in the back
of Kyle Yeoman's Real Quickly, it's time for our college
football minute. There are a couple teams in action this week.
It's not Isaiah's team. Josh's team is always in action.
They're always doing their work to get out of legal action.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
You know what I mean? Oh my god, because they're
being sued all right, Pat tell us about them. Georgia Bulldogs.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Uh yeah, So you know one thing I do love
is a good old fashioned rematch. So Alabama came to
Athens a few weeks ago and they snug one on us,
you know, barely got.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Away ward twenty one. Yeah, barely got away with it.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
But we get them back in the SEC Championship in
Atlanta on Saturday. So I would absolutely love to just
maul them. I will say I am concerned, not necessarily
about the game itself, but I'm concerned about it being
a bonus game because of the way that you know,
college football is set up now with the twelve game record.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't like that.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Now the SEC Championship, you know, and conference championships have
basically just been reduced to bragging rights. So with that,
we're risking injury for bragging rights, knowing that the playoffs
are coming up.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
So don't like that.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
That needs to be fixed. But that's a soapbox. I'm
not going to get on. Go out there, handle low Todd,
and let's take some momentum to the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Go do look.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
So for the upper echelon of conferences, yeah, you're right,
conference championship games are just a bragging right.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Not the case for the University of North Texas, Mean Green.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It is literally the biggest game in the history of
the program, and there's not been a conversation. It happens
tonight on ABC Prime Times. Go North Texas, the number
twenty four ranked team in the recent College Football Playoff rankings,
taking on number twenty two lane.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
The winner is going to the College Football It's been
a long season. Put your green draws on me. You
can't say it got them on. They just made them.
I could still say it. There are a lot of
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
A lot of things have happened as a part of
this program over the last couple of weeks, especially the
coach leaving to Oklahoma State. They have now announced a
new coach, Neil Brown is going to be the next
head coach for North Texas eugm Also, yeah, the GM's
going to Oklahoma, to Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Just keep on. This is just that night in the
adversity that there is adversity.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
But the big thing is they've got a chance to
win one game tonight for all the glory. Marbles may
even be headed to Athens next next time they play
a game, who knows, it may be Eugene and maybe
we'll see what's gonna happen. I'm sure you will North
Texas Tu Lane tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And I'm telling you, if they end up winning that game,
I'm gonna be insufferable on social media.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Pulling for you. Thank you seriously appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I wish I was down there. We have worked, Kyle
Cook got got Cowboys working.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Let Cal Cook. Yeah, it's gonna be till he comes to.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
All right, let's get into a little bit of Pickham segment.
We get we made our picks for the Cowboys game
on Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
What is that you?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
He's crazy, man, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Uh, We've got five games for the rest of the
slate throughout the week. In terms of our Pickham segment,
Anthony in Miami is our guest picker to what.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
A big ant?
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Hey, what's going on? My fellows.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Three or five?
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Hey, hanging is my dude? Nick and Chris and my
guys and you guys are my fellas. I always told
Cal I will always call him. He's been my dude
for years. Yes, sir, I'm told him I'll always call him.
So it's my first time this year, fellas. I appreciate
y'all show. I like that show.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Appreciate you, Colin. You don't always have to like mention.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Those just the names I call everybody.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yep, no doubt, bat.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Let the minstre Look, you're right, You're right. I appreciate
you calling. Appreciate your love as always. Let's get into
these games. Dolphins at the Jets. You guys want a
barn burner to start? Oh my god, Dolphins blockbuster if
you will, Isaiah, what you got?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Give me the joo man? You know what a little
bit of breakfast that's on the broadcast is gonna start
My ex teammates. Man, I'm over there with the Jets. Okay,
I'm gonna taken. Baby.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I was hoping you would make a Dolphin noise. Now
I'm gonna try.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
You gotta get he can hit those taking the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, that would wicked. No, go to the Dolphins.
I like Aaron going with the Jets. Yeah what you got, Anthony, I.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
Got the Jets. Man's down here, infball. I can't remember
a better record than us Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
No, no, no, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Colts at the Jags, Colts trying to get back on track.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
They're a little bit Josh, what you got, let me
go with the Jags, Patrick.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Oh Man, it's actually pretty good one.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm going with the Colts on this one. Okay, I'm
going to take the Colts to bounce back as well. Yeah.
I think the Horseshoes figure it out.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Anthony, Okay, I got the Jags.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
I like Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
You just picked the kaint Sunshine, all right. Commanders at
the Vikings another stinker game. Next next matchup for the
Cowboys though, the Vikings, Pat.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Oh, I'm never going for those for those guys, Vikings
Vikings win.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
See, I need to make up some ground here. I'm
going to go with the Commanders because the Vikings don't
know what the heck they're.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Doing at quarterback, right quarterback quarterback?
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah no, that's a miserable situation. And I believe the
Commanders are getting their QB one back this farday.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
He had a full practice.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Either way, Marcus Mariota is better than both the guys
on the Viking struck.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah yeah, give me the Commanders command. This is where
I make up ground.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah maybe so, Anthony, I'm with you, Pat, I can't
do it.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Philly Giants watch no, no No, and.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Ball Texans at the Chiefs actually a really good AFC
matchup at Arrowhead, Texans at Chiefs. Anthony will let you
start on this one.
Speaker 7 (47:27):
Uh, since we worked up on the Chiefs. I like
my homes. Let's go with the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Sh They're desperate back against the wall. I think I'm
gonna take Kansas City here too.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I like that Texans defense, but I just think that
Andy Reeve is gonna have something in the story. I
don't know whether Houston's offense.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Is doing, so I'm going with the Alight.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
That's a tough one, Patrick Ugo.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
It is a tough because the Texans defensive lights out,
but Chiefs at home got to absolutely have it. I
think they work some voodoo. However, that looks like I'm
going Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
I'm taking the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Okay, Eagles, the Chargers. Can the Chargers help the Cowboys out?
Kyle not, It's North Texas Eagles, Texas. Trust me, I've
gotten some dirty looks wearing just.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Charge me and green stuff?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
You taking it?
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Chargers Chorgiers?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Do they have their QB one Chorgiers? Okay, I'm gonna
take the Chargers too. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Is it just because I don't like picking the Eagles?
I have to go to Philly. You have to, Yeah,
I mean, buddy, pick with my heart.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
Brandon Graham over there wearing a Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Hat, I pick with my heart.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
I'm picking the real The heck's wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Man's gonna be the Chargers taking Philly, Anthony, He's.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Not gonna picking with my heart. But charge is never Philly, never, never,
never lost one.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
All right, So we're not going to pick this game
on the table. We're gonna make this up next week.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
We're tabling it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
We are tabling the pick that's about to happen. However,
the fans didn't get a chance to pick on Tuesday
when we made our Cowboys pick for the Detroit Lions game.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
So this is gonna be double or nothing for the
fans this week.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
They're gonna get two swings at it, and it's gonna
be the Vikings at the Cowboys next matchup in a
week and a half. It's a long way away, but
go ahead and pick who do you think is gonna
win that one, Anthony, and give us a final score.
Speaker 7 (49:22):
Oh, it's the Boys for life, the Boys for life,
and I like to pick former players numbers, so we're
gonna go with We're gonna go right Williams thirty one,
Dan Woolson, who should be in the Hall of twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
All right, I don't. That's a pretty close game.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
That is fun, all right, Thanks Anthony and Miami appreciates
you as always and appreciate you Colin.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
You're the man, you sir.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
So all right.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 3 (50:12):
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After the Cowboys fall forty four to thirty the final
score in Week fourteen, Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented by
Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas,
in the s WBC studio. Welcome in, everybody. We've got
Patrick Nosey Walker, Josh Roderiguez, Isaiah stand Back, Chris Beam
in the back of Kyle Yeoman's Cowboys fall to six
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six and one and their playoff hopes take a severe hit,
a severe dash to the end, and with one month remaining,
they're not out of it mathematically, but man, they're gonna
need a lot of help from here on out. And
you got to win pretty much everything else from here
on out in order to do so. So I'll open
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the floor forty four to thirty. It wasn't pretty in
any phase. There were a lot of mistakes on any
phase of the imagination of this one offense, defense, special teams.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Patrick. Since you were in the building at Ford Field,
I will.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And since you had to get up early this morning
to be on the charter flight to get back here,
I'm gonna let you start.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I'm not sure what you're excited about it. This is
a bad game. No, this is a bad game.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
But Josh and I for all the sneaker heads, they
know we just got to drop this one. And we
successfully acquired the Diamond Turfs Dim Cowboys color Wow. So
we were waiting for the nine am drop got them
and get them breakfast right today?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
All right, So to the Cowboys, Yeah, where do you
start when there are so many places that you can start?
I mean, we talked about how the defense looked different
coming out of the bow week, and they most certainly did,
so we're not going to take anything away from that,
But we also talked about how this was going to
be the test for them. Now we didn't know going
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into this game if Amo Rod Saint Brown would play
or not. Not only did he not only did he play,
but Dan Campbell made sure that the Cowboys understood he
was going to be a big part of the game
plan from the word go okay. They didn't have an
answer for him. They didn't have an answer for Jamison Williams,
and they absolutely did not have an answer for Jamiir Gibbs.
Now we sat here on this at this panel and
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we say that you know, Jamier Gibbs, He's going to
get his every once in a while. Boy, it turns
out every once in a while is far more often
than I would have liked to see. They couldn't cover
him in space at all, which goes on the struggles.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
At the linebacker corps.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Not going to just yet start pointing out names, we
just know the linebacker corps as a whole struggled mightily
last night against Jamier Gibbs, David Montgomery. You know, not
that David Montgomery had a fantastic game, but the play
that he had. When you look at that play and
break it down, ironbacker Corps, going back to that flip
it to the offensive side of the ball for the Cowboys,
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and shouts out to Ceedee Lamb because he had the
bounce back game on Thanksgiving against the Chiefs, So then
it was about stacking those kinds of days. He was
taking the Lions out back and beating them to within
an inch of their life. They had no answer for
Ceedee Lamb before he got knocked out with that concussion.
Knocked out of the game, I should say, with that concussion.
Once he got knocked out of the game, that concussion,
Cowboys had no offense. That was pretty much that you
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got to see more from George Pickens. We'll get to that.
I'm quite sure you know. Javonte Williams, he did what
he could. Man your offensive line got manhandled. I mean
that's just absolutely manhandled.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's the problem in my eyes.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, huge, just And I want to go ahead and
just blame Isaiah standback because I told you not to
piss off Aiight Hutchison. I told you, I said leave
that damn bear alone. Didn't I say it? But did
you do it? No?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
You did not?
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Eight Hunchson ten pressures ten ten? How many pressures did
they have on the on the whole twenty eight and
had half of them? Man, Oh my god, I gave
Terryce Steel rightful praise for handleling Max Crosby. He deleted
Jalen Phillips, that interior with Tyler Booker, they handled Chris Jones.
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And here came another test with Aiden Hutchison and eight
Hutchison said, I heard tell somebody said I was not
in peak for him anymore. He went out there and
he showed that he was. So now we're back to
wondering what's going on with the tackles, because you know,
in Tyler Guiden's absence, now I've seen another bad outing
from Nate Thomas. I'll go back to what I said
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three weeks ago, two three weeks ago when Nate Thomas
went in when Tyler got and left with injury, and
Nate Thomas did not have a good showing at all.
Nate Thomas can be a serviceable swing tackle when you
need him to step in from time to time.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, But for.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Those that are saying he's your full time guy, you're
seeing why he's not your full time guy. And that's
not to beat up on Nate Thomas because again Terry
Steele had a bad game. I saw Tyler Smith missing
a couple right the whole line right.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
The whole line struggled.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So, I mean Dak was under siege last night. I'm
just thankful that you know, QB one left in one piece,
because you wondering.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
If he was going to a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Jake Ferguson, he wants to take this tape and set
it on fire. There's probably I don't want to be
a prison of recency buying that you guys will. And
I think this was the worst game I've ever seen
from jke FB. I think so OPI call, yeah, it sucked.
It was egregiously bad. That's that helped turn the game.
That's not why you lost the game. When you see
Jake Ferguson on third and forever and he gets a
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check down on third and forever, and I get the effort,
but there are three or four guys on you. You're
not going to break three or four guys off of
you and run for another twelve yards. You're not doing that.
Just take the lower case L instead. It turns into
a capital L because it's fumble.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, it wasn't. What did they do? Wasn't that the
That was the David Montgomery touchdown that came after the
Ferguson bumble yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
And then Fergie with the hands of the face that
deleted the DPI downfield.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
It was all bad Josh's I think if you're a
detroit you probably saw a lot of weaknesses in the
Cowboys in terms of physicality and being able to run
to the ball and take advantage of them sort of
giving up when the play is over. The play isn't
over until the whistle. You hear the whistle, and in
a lot of those cases, Cowboys failed. You had a
lot of Dallas Cowboys players individually that had really bad
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performances from players that you would not ordinarily see in
my opinion, I mean, you've seen ups and downs this
year from Deron Bland. This is one of his worst games.
I feel like this is one of the worst games
from Kenneth Murray, who has struggled in and out during
the season. Terrence Steele and Nate Thomas. My goodness, what
a terrible game for those two. And it's something that
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you would expect them to have a better game, knowing
what is on the line here and just in.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Every facet those guys got whooped.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
It's unfortunate because you expect more out of them, even
though Nate Thomas is backup. I mean, we're talking about
if he should be competing for Tyler Giton's number one spot.
So that feels very unfortunate. Jake Ferguson, Like you said,
there were just so many individual performances. George Pickens. George
Pickens a guy that we've championed this whole season so far,
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and still to me, it's no doubt that he's also
a number one receiver along with Ceedee Lamb. To me,
there's no question about it. But the effort was in
question yesterday. But I feel like the Lions did a
good job of saying Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens are
not going to kill us, even though Ceedee Lamb for
a large part was killing him.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But you had him frustrated.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
You were frustrating them enough to where they felt like,
all right, fine, you know, they kind of backed off
in their fundamentals and they were pressing.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
So you felt that a lot.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I mean, you got to be happy for Ryan Flinoy,
who had a great game all things considered, but you
really really needed one of George Pickens yesterday and you
just didn't get it. And even Dak for a large part.
I mean, you got to be able to understand where
the pressure is. If your tackles are not helping you,
you got to throw it away. Man, don't take take
the lowercase L. Do not take the capital l's. And
that's what happened quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I thought there were a couple of times where he
had no finish.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah, he was still in the middle of that final plant,
but was gone.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Are we to say that he performed exactly how you
would expect Dak Prescott to play in a game where, yes,
he played exactly how you wanted to think he played.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That DA had listen, all right, let's let's talk. You
please talk, QB.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Tell me.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I'm I'm really frustrated. I'm really frustrated.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I sat here and going. I mentioned this last week,
I said going, or this week, I said going. Before
watching the film, I thought that Dallas was going to
take an L because physically, Detroit has always posed a
major threat to Dallas, and they always beat up Dallas.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They pumped, they punked Dallas. They just they punked them.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Even in the game that Dallas won two years ago
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Three, they were arguably the more physical team, so that
was remember I said, I said, I fear that Dallas
would get beat up.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
But after watching the film.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Based upon the matchups and based upon what they proposed
in terms of their schemes, I felt like Dallas should
win this ball game. But physically I was always concerned
that stayed true. Dallas got physically beat up. They got
punked once again. They obviously stepped on the same field
with the same opportunity. One team played with energy, the
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other team played with no energy. One team continue to
fight back and get back in the game. But even
when they fight and get back in the game, you
had no sense of confidence because they weren't playing with
confidence in terms of effectiveness and execution. We sat there
on the pregame show and Kyle posed a question to
Nate Berry.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
And myself, and he asked, if you were.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Going to shut down Dallas's offense, what would you do
if you're going to shut down this tandem? And I said,
I would play two men. I would get up at
the line of scrimmage. I would sit on the inside
hip pocket. I would contest them at the line of scrimmage,
and then I would sit underneath their hip all the
game long, with the safety over the top.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What did they do two men the entire time?
Speaker 6 (10:53):
I also said, if they choose to do that, then
you have to go to Jake Ferguson because this defense
plays base defense. They don't really change much, and they're
gonna have a linebacker on one of your highest paid
players on your team.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And they did that all night long, as alone, all
night long was covering Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
As alone shouldn't be able to hold Jake Ferguson's tidy whities, right,
you can. You can complain about the OPI, you can
complain about the DPI, you complain about all the times
he got It doesn't matter that matchup did not get
highlighted enough. Let's just say that, Okay, they did not
take advantage of that. I told you sitting there. I
don't know, Colle's probably tired of me talking at the game,
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but I literally sat there. I said, if i'm Dak Prescott,
I'm going to Jake. Once I recognize the defense that
they're running, I'm saying, I'm throwing you the ball every
single time the change until they change.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Catch the dog on ball.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
Right.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
We knew it was gonna be contested. Everything was gonna
be contested. This is a sicky team. They're fight. They're
gonna fight to the lights out. Offensive line was trash.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
They're not gonna makes offensive line was absolutely trash.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
Yeah, you talk about Dak and his ability, you know,
sometimes to throw it away.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Dak was pressured many times.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
He was sacked five times on forty seven dropbacks, twenty
five times out of forty seven passes.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
This dude was under duress. You can't do anything as
a quarterback with that. I can't.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I'm looking on the outside. Obviously, I'm getting the ball
to cdcd's doing his thing. Okay, even contested catches, amazing
catches with my CD. He goes out the game with
a concussion. Okay, boom, I have another number one. He's
gonna step up. No, he's jogging. Call it what it is.
He's jogging. There's no way he can watch this film
and dispute anything that anybody on TV or a period
right now is saying. He was jogging on routes, he
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was short arming routes, he was not giving a full
effort on a lot of things that we can point
to in that game. That's not what people want to
see out of your one B receiver. He has to
check himself on that. There's no disputing, no disputing its
old line was absolutely booboo. Javonte Williams did what he
did what he could do with what he was given. Defensively,
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he tried to I couldn't be more frustrated this defense.
I'm not going to call out names right now. There's
some people who shouldn't be out there. Some guys from
in terms of their execution shouldn't be out there. Some
guys based upon their physical abilities right now shouldn't be
out there.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Now.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Do you have much of a choice based upon the
guys that you have with that depth? Ah, I don't know,
but maybe you might want to put them in a
better position. But I do know that a Manros Saint
Brown versus fourteen yards off with a safety guarding him.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Is probably not going to stop him.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Putting Donovan Wilson fourteen yards away from Momara Saint Brown's
probably not.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
A good scheme. And that was on first intent, first
and tent, and that was on multiple occasions.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Okay, just playing off, it's literally passed just routes on air,
just like if you get to the game early and
you watch teams warm up.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That's what a Mona Saint Brown did majority of the night.
He didn't have a contested catches. These are routes on air.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Jamison Williams fastest man on the field, no matter what
field he steps on, no matter what opponent. Why is
Marquis Bell playing manned man on him. One of your
slowest dbs is playing against the fastest man on the field. Schematically,
that makes zero sense to me. I'm not even gonna
talk about execution. I don't I'm not mad at Marque's Bell.
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He doesn't stand a chance.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, he doesn't stand put in the position to.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Be successful exactly, doesn't stand that.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
That's a scheme law. That's a scheme thing. So playing
off of Alamara Saint Brown is a scheme issue. Playing
zone defense and backing off eight yards of freaking Jamier
Gibbs when he lines up at receiver is the scheme problem.
There was scheme issues, there were executions issues. There was
issues across the board. I can go all day long,
but those are some of the things that were glaring
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in my eyes. We could talk about the Jay Ferguson fumble,
the effort there, it's hard. I'm frustrated. Yet he fumbled,
so did George Pickens. We just happened to fall on it.
You know a lot of things that are occurring that
have to be cleaned up. Obviously, this game you couldn't
afford to lose. They did lose it refrustrated or the
one positive that you could take away is that Dak
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didn't it hurt.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, he's still available.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I mean, even Ceedee Lamb being out in George Pickens pride.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't know what it is, but there were a
lot of different than Brandon Aubrey. Brandon Aubrey, I gotta
give him hell, Yeah, kept in the game.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Brandon Aubrey kept single handily kept you kept.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
You get across the literally fifteen and we sat there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, that's not a one possession game at twenty seven
nineteen without Brandon Aubrey get across the fifties.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, like, and you can see that Dallas.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
I don't want to project, I'm going to assume right
based upon what I saw, it felt as if Dallas
was satisfied getting across the fifty and saying we have
Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That's what it felt like. Dude. Sure it did, and
we've seen that happen before.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
We've seen that happen previously with another coaching staff that
was here.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, it's happened before and characteristic.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
When your safety blanket becomes your game plan, that's a problem.
And that's kind of what it ultimately felt like. And
I'm not gonna like you said, I'm not gonna projected
they were trying to go and score touchdowns. Should get
a twisted whatever they call a play period, it's to
try and score a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
That's just how football works.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
However, Brandon Aubrey absolutely a weapon. I think my number
one takeaway from this game is the way that the
defense did not continue the momentum from the three games
prior because they were put in bad situations. Don't get
me wrong, y'all have talked about offense, You've talked about defense.
You've talked about the positives of the special teams. How
about the fact that Detroit averaged a starting field position
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of forty two yard line outside of the final kneel
down in the game. According to sources, that is not good. No,
it is not. That means you only have to go
fifty eight yards per drive to score fifty eight yards
instead of seventy five or seventy or sixty five, All
of those things across.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
The board are certainly that's not good. Is that helpful
when you're eighty percent conversion at risk? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It is not helpful at all. So they were put
in a bad spot. Takeaways, the fumble from Jake Ferguson,
the interception at the beginning of the third quarter, Both
of those things hurt you tremendously. And it almost hurts
you again as you talked about with the fumble in
the red zone with George Pickens. So we talk about
complimentary offense a lot or complimentary football a lot is
what I right. This was anti complimentary. This was hurt
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full football. Your special teams hurt your defense, then your
offense hurt your defense, then your defense hurts your offense,
and then it just all kind of fell apart, and you.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Were absolutely so.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I have a hard time looking at this game and
looking at this film and saying Detroit handled you. They
did physically, don't get me wrong. And I give a
lot of credit to Dan Campbell for getting these guys
up and ready to play. They had lost two of
three coming in, and there were a lot of things
on the line for Detroit just as much as there
was for Dallas. However, Dallas shot themselves in the foot consistently,
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over and over and over again. And there were things
that Detroit did better than Dallas, but there are a
lot of things Dallas left on the table.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And that's the most frustrating.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Listen, you guys, uh some excellent points, Kyle. You lost
to yourself absolutely you talk about the Cowboys schematics now,
execution issues were absolutely there again your linebackers, and not
necessarily to Marvey on over shown, but some of your
other linebackers, like Jared Goff threw four three hundred and
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nine yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, that's a solid stat line, a solid stat line.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Okay, two hundred and fifty yards of those, including that touchdown,
came when the Cowboys were in zone coverage. Cowboys ran
zone coverage eighty six percent of the time. Yeah, and
Jerick Goff just sat back there and decimated. You said,
how much eighty six percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
If I got an eighty six on a test, I'd
get like ice cream after after the test my way home.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Can I just point to something?
Speaker 6 (18:51):
No, see, while you're pointing out the zone, because you
guys know, I hate zone. I was literally about to
throw something through the telestrator.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, we had to hold them back.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Bro Listen, fourth quarter, you're down by eight one possession, correct,
just one. You literally are in a position to get
off the field, get the ball back to your offense
as bad as you're playing, as bad as you're playing,
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and you play seventy two yards off.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And you allow them to get in field goal range.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That drive, in particular, I was about to lose my mind.
You are three downs away from getting the ball back
into Dak Prescott's hands to have an opportunity to tie
the game up when your team is playing terrible, and
you back up schematically, you back up and say go
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ahead and get.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
In field goal range and make it a two possession game.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
I can't comprehend it. I legit. We can point to
a lot of different things. Let's talk about that drive.
I need to understand what is the thought process to
play twelve yards off when you only need when they
only need to get balled ten to fifteen yards further
down the field to kick a field goal and put
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this game out of reach.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, the first time we've seen that this season either.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
And I'm talking to Kyle and I'm like, what about
situational football is not getting across that. This is a
time and place in the game where you go to
that call sheet and you're like, these five plays that
I mapped out is for this situation right here. These
are my five plays that I have. These are my
go getters, These are my break glass and area I
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need to play right now. You don't have five plays,
you don't have one.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Like that drove me crazy. It made no sense.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You were so close, like this game was right there,
and you backed up and you gave it to them.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Take it. You just take it here. You can have it,
routes on air, take it. Maybe you'll drop the ball.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The same thing happened at the end of the second
quarter too, after you kick the field goal prior to halftime,
inside the two minute time out, playing so far off
that they easily walked down the field forty seconds, easily
walked down the field and kicked the field goals and
just completely negated everything you had done to that point.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's easy he did. He was trying, man. Yeah, it
was a This was a tough one.
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give a lot of credit to that, to the offense too,
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Special Teams unit. Not complimentary football to say the least. Now, Patrick,
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Short week.
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We had the greatness of QB visions. We certainly did popcorn.
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Yeah, absolutely, it's time for lab coat. So a couple
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the heart of what Isaiah is saying.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Again.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
I was stated once again, the Cowboys ran zone eighty
seven percent of the time last night Jarreed Goff had
two hundred and fifty of his three hundred and nine
passing yards and his only passing touchdown when the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Ri in zone. Let's expound upon that just really quickly.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Isaiah is talking about the Cowboys being in third and
long situations, sometimes even second and long situations and playing
all the way back like I mean, they were in
all of it. They were in Texas trying to stop,
you know, a third and.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Eight lake erie.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Jered Goff just took everything that they gave. And we
talk a lot about taking what the defense gives you, well,
the Cowboys defense was given him all of it, and
he was taking all of it. Jerry Golf completed twenty
four of thirty three. Shouts out to MGS for this
twenty four of his thirty three attempts for two hundred
and seventy two yards and the touchdown, with most of
the production on quick passes, not downfield production. It was
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getting it out quick, quick, get it out into the
hands of your playmakers and let them make plays high percentage,
high percentage. He completed seventeen of his twenty one quick
pass attempts for a total of one hundred and sixty
seven yards and the tudy that is a quick pass
rate of sixty two percent. It's his highest mark in
the game since he signed with the Lions.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Let him do it question, Hold on, I'm gonna say
this one more time.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Just what people understand? Yeah? Please?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Okay, sixty cool. That's for the status nerds such as myself.
Let me just put it in plain language though. Jerret
Golf against the Dallas Cowboys on on Thursday Night football
just registered the highest success rate on his quick passes
in his entire career with the Detroit Lions. Zone coverage
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was early Christmas for him and those playmakers.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Really quick, how do you combat a really solid interior
defensive line?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Oh, get it out? Yeah, quick passes, get it out.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
But you know what, and then and and I just
want to wrap this up, no see, because I don't
want there to be this ideology that we're speaking negatively
about zone.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
All the time. We're not talking about.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
The time.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So even if let let's just go and put this
on it too.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
No see, there's a way to play zone eighty seven
percent of the time, even though I don't like that
without playing.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Far off, I don't like that zone.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
There are many ways to remain in zone and still
disrupt the releases of receivers. The one thing that receivers
hate when they're trying to get out into their routes
is to have to run around another person. I don't
want to have to deal with getting around you and
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then getting to my spot and then getting out of
my break and then catching the ball. But if you're
playing off, I don't have to worry about that because
once I cross five yards, by law, you can't touch me.
So you are taking away the advantage that you have
as a defender within that first five yards that they
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allot for to go up and make my job difficult.
So when you talk about eighty seven percent efficiency there
when you're playing fourteen yards, when you're playing twelve ten,
eight yards off of these receivers in the NFL. But
let's talk about a Manra Saint Brown in particular, one
of the best possession receivers I consider.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
You might not want to give him that five yard
grace period that you actually are gifted to go be
physical with him. And if you were ever going to
be physical with a Monro Saint Brown, it probably should
come on the heels of him not having practice because
of an ankle injury. I'm probably gonna go make his
life a little bit more difficult to get off the ball,
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be a little more physical, a little bit more physical
at least it's gonna get up there and force them
to go into a short motion.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Like oh they did that with Jamior gifts. Make them
do a.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Short motion so that you can't go up during disrupt
And that's what teams do to combat people, teams that
want to come up and press so you can play
zone defense while still disrupting releases at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Dallas for whatever reason, all season long, not just tonight.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Yeah right, this has been my This has been my
my issue I've had all season long, but it's specifically
in games that really matter.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
You cannot give those gifts for you Christmas is here.
I get it. You can't give away gifts because you
just gave away your chance for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
So here's here's my question, because I want we've been talking,
especially because of the focus of lab Code on this
particular thing. I know a lot some fans are probably
listening to this and saying at this point they're saying,
but it wasn't only the defense. You're right, but it
was also the defense. You're right, it was the offense
as well. But it wasn't only the offense either. A
special team. So here's my question for all of the
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rightful criticism that eba Flues draws from the fan base
and from the analysts, when we see things like what
we saw last night Detroit Lions, when is everyone going
to start having the sorts and conversation.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh, we've had it, we were talking about that. I've
been had it.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Okay, it's a conversation that needs to be had, and
I believe it needs to be had in the front
office as well. Shoty needs to have a conversation with
his special teams coordinator because this is a special teams unit. Now,
thankfully Butter is still Butter, okay, but this is a
special teams unit that went from being the best.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
In the league, not even close best than yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Mean not even wasn't even arguable, no, to probably be
not even probably to be one of the worst in
the league. Now save for you know, effort from guys
like Elijah Clark a couple of weeks ago, save for
effort from guys like Samuel with the block field goals.
So you have like an individual standout here and there,
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here and there, but the unit as a whole, save
for those that have the consistency of Brandon Aubrey, Special
Teams has taken a massive, gargantuan step back, and I
feel like the criticism for flu still justified is kind
of saving Nick Swrtenson from criticism. Yes, I don't feel
like it's a conversation that needs.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
To be head No.
Speaker 6 (31:09):
See, I can tell you this. You guys are fan.
Our family have brought it up numerous times. You guys
have brought up numerous times friends and family and said
that I should get into coaching, and I've always been like,
heck no, not getting to coaching.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Kyle, what did I say last night?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
You said I think I could be a pretty darn
good special teams coordinator.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
He almost forced me into.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
He was like, hold on a second. He's like, let
me go get my ball cap backwards. Visor, let me
go get that out of the car real quick.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Why do you say that isaim is?
Speaker 6 (31:40):
I don't feel this is my feeling. I don't feel
like he's connected to the Special Teams unit. I'll say
that I don't. I don't know him personally. I've been around,
I've seen I've seen his presence amongst that, and I've
experienced a lot of Special Teams coordinators in my life.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
The most successful Specially Teams coordinators.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
That I've seen are either super savvy vets cats have
been around for a long time, old school cats right
that their players just ball out for them, right, just
old rugged cats. Or they're young guys with a lot
of juice and a lot of energy. Because Special Teams
is a special unit. It is a unit where you
are literally going out there in is seventy effort thirty
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percent execution.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's the dirty work.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
It's the dirty work, and you got to have somebody
that is the juice man. And I've never seen him
do anything, even a Jason Garrett clap. That's not to
say that he's not doing it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Think the biggest thing that I've seen him do was
after the second time getting on Turp. Second time that
it's happened in two weeks where Cavante Turpin does a
fake fair catch and then tried to return and and
it ends up being a penalty second time, and Sorenson,
I give him credit he got in the face of
turf and he was lighting up turp on the sideline,
which I don't know if that's a terp habit or something.
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I don't know's if it's a plan. That's even worse
if that was a plan. But it's done.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
It's been happened twice in a row.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It didn't happen with Boone and so I get onto
or I give.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Him credit for getting on to term. But that was
really the most emotion we've seen out of the guy
at any point in time.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, there's special teams has been a problem. It has
really quickly.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
To someone in the chat who asked, how was it
also offense's fault, it's because they got in their own way.
Talk about it, Jake, This is just quick and we'll
get back to special teams. Jake Ferguson's fumbled Jake Ferguson,
hands to the face.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Did they watched the game?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
The offensive line got offensive like Scott got hit eleven times, sacked,
five times, pressure twenty times.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That's how the offense.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Ow Kwahem Mohammad, who you let go and braining camp last.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Year, had three sacks.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So three to answer that question, not Micah Parsons, not
Aiden Grudge, not not all these other Miles Garrett, these
JJ Watts. No, but no, it was al Quaheen Mohammad,
a high afford guy, high afford motor.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Never should have let walk out the door. Isaiah has
been very highly spoken about that form.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
But yeah, So circling back to special teams because I
want to hear josh Is standpoint on it, because it
sounds like he had some passion in that, uh in
that and some point.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
I mean, it's it's hard to disagree that the Cowboys
are a worst special teams unit this year compared to
last year. You can't really dispute it at this point.
And like you said, it's much worse. And Brandon Aubrey
makes up for a lot of that because Brandon Aubrey
is Brandon Aubrey. But if you look at just mistackles,
just mistackles on special teams, that is what's really killing
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you right now. And we're talking about the position that
they had all game. That was a big part of
it too. It's it's not just punk coverage or anything
like that.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Kickoff coverage, kickoff off coverage, normal business really.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Bad last night, and and the game has changed, and
yet you kept kicking to the guy. So it's not
a knowing that you that your coverage is poor. I
don't have a problem with that. I don't have a
problem with that because in this new kickoff era. Okay,
back in the day I was, we were had to
run down on kickoff, it was L five L four.
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You had to get run into a wedge and a wall. Right,
you're going right, this new era, you're standing there, Yeah, exactly.
You're standing there and you're literally right five yards away
from a guy. Right, most of the time is you
versus that guy. You can scheme it up a little bit,
but majority of the time you have one on one matchups.
Beat your man, Yeah, beat your man. There are a
lot of drills that that you can do in in
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this in this game of football that will position you
to be successful. Personnel groupings matter, right, the type of
personnelities you have. What did I say last night? I said,
if I was on, if I was especially in the coordinator,
of my guys would be defensive defensive players.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, you said they needed a little edge to them.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
You gotta have some edge to them, you gotta have.
You got some defensive ends. You have some linebackers and
you got you have a bussy's cats in the mouth. Yeah,
I'm trying to if you have a hard chin strap,
I need that thing cracked by the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's it's a violent game. There's a violent game that
we play. So this is not pity.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Pat.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
Let me let you get forty yards on a kickoff return,
which they did all night long, last all night.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
But you know, I said, you made a point that
I'm going to double down on because I don't want
fans to view it as a fleeting point. Just as
from player to player, there has to be chemistry in
each position group, in each unit.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
This Special Teams as a unit.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And this is coming from someone who's in the building
at every practice in the locker room, I talk to players,
and not to say that players are throwing, you know,
sore and center the bus. I'm not saying that at all.
But when you talk about the feel like these past
several seasons, it felt like Special Teams players would run
through a wall for bones fossil. I don't feel that.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I just I just don't.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It just it just feels like there are players and
there's the coach and it goes it's.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
A part of Burblo Quick even on Punk return and
you can see it, and I know people are going
to Turpen is one of the best punk returners.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
How many opportunities has he had?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Not a ton?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Not a ton? And you know what that goes to.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
It goes to the aspect of the game that a
lot of people don't pay attention to because they don't
really show it on the screen or you don't really
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's the hold up. It's the hold up.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Some of the great teams that I've been on we
worked to crap out of that drill in practice. Man,
the man, you're on film. We're highlighting this and we're
gonna watch it on film in front of the whole team.
Can you get a hold up on this dude? Come off,
put your hand on, crowding on your helmet and his
chance strap, sit your button down, lock up, and don't
let him off the line.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
There's a pride factor that comes with that. If I
do my job, and.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
If my partners do their job across the board, our
returnment has a chance. But if I come off and
I just hit him in and I let this dude
just throw me to the side, and run down the field.
Now turf has to fair catch, So there's a pride
factor that grows across the board and tech technical aspect
that people aren't paying attention to that is contributing to
why we're saying this about the special teams unit as
a whole.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So with all of that being said, special teams specifically
and everything pieced together here, we expected a drop off.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
When John Fossil left, right, you knew that was a
big lores.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
He's the best in the league, one of the best
special teams coordinators in football. Right now, you knew there
was going to be a drop off, and I don't.
I'm not even so that as a knock toward Nick Sorenson.
But the drop off has been far severe, or far
more severe than I think we even anticipated going into
the year. There's got to be a significant change in
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the special teams unit to make it worthwhile to have
that conversation or to push aside that conversation as these
final four games go along. All right, we got to
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It's not Isaiah's team. Josh's team is always in action.
They're always doing their work to get out of legal action.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
You know what I mean? Oh my god, because they're
being sued all right, Pat tell us about them. Georgia Bulldogs.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Uh yeah, So you know one thing I do love
is a good old fashioned rematch. So Alabama came to
Athens a few weeks ago and they snug one on us,
you know, barely got.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Away ward twenty one. Yeah, barely got away with it.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
But we get them back in the SEC Championship in
Atlanta on Saturday. So I would absolutely love to just
maul them. I will say I am concerned, not necessarily
about the game itself, but I'm concerned about it being
a bonus game because of the way that you know,
college football is set up now with the twelve game record.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I don't like that.
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Now the SEC Championship, you know, and conference championships have
basically just been reduced to bragging rights. So with that,
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are coming up.
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That needs to be fixed. But that's a soapbox. I'm
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and let's take some momentum to the playoffs.
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Go do look.
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So for the upper echelon of conferences, yeah, you're right,
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Not the case for the University of North Texas, Mean Green.
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Speaker 3 (42:47):
The winner is going to the College Football It's been
a long season. Put your green draws on me. You
can't say it got them on. They just made them.
I could still say it. There are a lot of
I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
A lot of things have happened as a part of
this program over the last couple of weeks, especially the
coach leaving to Oklahoma State. They have now announced a
new coach, Neil Brown is going to be the next
head coach for North Texas eugm Also, yeah, the GM's
going to Oklahoma, to Oklahoma State.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Just keep on. This is just that night in the
adversity that there is adversity.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
But the big thing is they've got a chance to
win one game tonight for all the glory. Marbles may
even be headed to Athens next next time they play
a game, who knows, it may be Eugene and maybe
we'll see what's gonna happen. I'm sure you will North
Texas Tu Lane tonight.
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
And I'm telling you, if they end up winning that game,
I'm gonna be insufferable on social media.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Pulling for you. Thank you seriously appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I wish I was down there. We have worked, Kyle
Cook got got Cowboys working.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Let Cal Cook. Yeah, it's gonna be till he comes to.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
All right, let's get into a little bit of Pickham segment.
We get we made our picks for the Cowboys game
on Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
What is that you?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (44:15):
He's crazy, man, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Uh, We've got five games for the rest of the
slate throughout the week. In terms of our Pickham segment,
Anthony in Miami is our guest picker to what.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
A big ant?
Speaker 7 (44:28):
Hey, what's going on? My fellows.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Three or five?
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Hey, hanging is my dude? Nick and Chris and my
guys and you guys are my fellas. I always told
Cal I will always call him. He's been my dude
for years. Yes, sir, I'm told him I'll always call him.
So it's my first time this year, fellas. I appreciate
y'all show. I like that show.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Appreciate you, Colin. You don't always have to like mention.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
Those just the names I call everybody.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yep, no doubt, bat.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Let the minstre Look, you're right, You're right. I appreciate
you calling. Appreciate your love as always. Let's get into
these games. Dolphins at the Jets. You guys want a
barn burner to start? Oh my god, Dolphins blockbuster if
you will, Isaiah, what you got?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
Give me the joo man? You know what a little
bit of breakfast that's on the broadcast is gonna start
My ex teammates. Man, I'm over there with the Jets. Okay,
I'm gonna taken. Baby.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
I was hoping you would make a Dolphin noise. Now
I'm gonna try.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
You gotta get he can hit those taking the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, that would wicked. No, go to the Dolphins.
I like Aaron going with the Jets. Yeah what you got, Anthony, I.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
Got the Jets. Man's down here, infball. I can't remember
a better record than us Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
No, no, no, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Colts at the Jags, Colts trying to get back on track.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
They're a little bit Josh, what you got, let me
go with the Jags, Patrick.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
Oh Man, it's actually pretty good one.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
I'm going with the Colts on this one. Okay, I'm
going to take the Colts to bounce back as well. Yeah.
I think the Horseshoes figure it out.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Anthony, Okay, I got the Jags.
Speaker 7 (46:23):
I like Sunshine.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
You just picked the kaint Sunshine, all right. Commanders at
the Vikings another stinker game. Next next matchup for the
Cowboys though, the Vikings, Pat.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Oh, I'm never going for those for those guys, Vikings
Vikings win.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
See, I need to make up some ground here. I'm
going to go with the Commanders because the Vikings don't
know what the heck they're.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Doing at quarterback, right quarterback quarterback?
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah no, that's a miserable situation. And I believe the
Commanders are getting their QB one back this farday.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
He had a full practice.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Either way, Marcus Mariota is better than both the guys
on the Viking struck.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah yeah, give me the Commanders command. This is where
I make up ground.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah maybe so, Anthony, I'm with you, Pat, I can't
do it.
Speaker 7 (47:12):
Philly Giants watch no, no No, and.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
Ball Texans at the Chiefs actually a really good AFC
matchup at Arrowhead, Texans at Chiefs. Anthony will let you
start on this one.
Speaker 7 (47:27):
Uh, since we worked up on the Chiefs. I like
my homes. Let's go with the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Sh They're desperate back against the wall. I think I'm
gonna take Kansas City here too.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
I like that Texans defense, but I just think that
Andy Reeve is gonna have something in the story. I
don't know whether Houston's offense.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Is doing, so I'm going with the Alight.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
That's a tough one, Patrick Ugo.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
It is a tough because the Texans defensive lights out,
but Chiefs at home got to absolutely have it. I
think they work some voodoo. However, that looks like I'm
going Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
I'm taking the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Okay, Eagles, the Chargers. Can the Chargers help the Cowboys out?
Kyle not, It's North Texas Eagles, Texas. Trust me, I've
gotten some dirty looks wearing just.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Charge me and green stuff?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
You taking it?
Speaker 4 (48:16):
Chargers Chorgiers?
Speaker 3 (48:18):
Do they have their QB one Chorgiers? Okay, I'm gonna
take the Chargers too. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (48:24):
Is it just because I don't like picking the Eagles?
I have to go to Philly. You have to, Yeah,
I mean, buddy, pick with my heart.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
Brandon Graham over there wearing a Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Hat, I pick with my heart.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
I'm picking the real The heck's wrong with you.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Man's gonna be the Chargers taking Philly, Anthony, He's.
Speaker 7 (48:41):
Not gonna picking with my heart. But charge is never Philly, never, never,
never lost one.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
All right, So we're not going to pick this game
on the table. We're gonna make this up next week.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
We're tabling it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
We are tabling the pick that's about to happen. However,
the fans didn't get a chance to pick on Tuesday
when we made our Cowboys pick for the Detroit Lions game.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
So this is gonna be double or nothing for the
fans this week.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
They're gonna get two swings at it, and it's gonna
be the Vikings at the Cowboys next matchup in a
week and a half. It's a long way away, but
go ahead and pick who do you think is gonna
win that one, Anthony, and give us a final score.
Speaker 7 (49:22):
Oh, it's the Boys for life, the Boys for life,
and I like to pick former players numbers, so we're
gonna go with We're gonna go right Williams thirty one,
Dan Woolson, who should be in the Hall of twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
All right, I don't. That's a pretty close game.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
That is fun, all right, Thanks Anthony and Miami appreciates
you as always and appreciate you Colin.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
You're the man, you sir.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
So all right.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
That does it for us here on Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Glad you were able to join us following the forty
four to thirty loss to the Detroit Lions. Appreciate you
guys being true fans and tuning and even after the
Cowboys fall in a game like that. We will be
back on Monday, and we're back on the normal schedule
from at least for a week, and then we'll go
when it gets all messed up, then we go Monday
through Friday, and then it gets messed up again for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
But we will be back on Monday no matter what.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
For Patrick No c Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback, Chris
Beam in the back of Kyle Yellmans saying so long
from Talking Cowboys. We'll see you Monday.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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