August 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Álvaro Martín, Arturo Carlos y un invitado especial, Max Starks, repasan los momentos clave del Steelers Camp 2025, la preparación del equipo para la temporada regular y analizan el primer juego de pretemporada contra los Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 7 (14:18):
Not happy to be here, and of course here at Steelers'
training camp twenty twenty.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Five, it's it's special.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
It's a special place, and I know we're closing it down,
but this is where champions are made. Every single Super
Bowl champion has started here. So there's something special about
coming to Pittsburgh, coming to Le Trope and Saint Vincent's College.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Now, this idea that you hear players say it every year,
You lived through it, the idea of camaraderie, chemistry, bonding.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
What is that like? How does that work?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
So the first thing is you take everything that's comfortable
and known and you flip it on his head. You
remove guys out of all of the comforts of home.
You stick them in dorm rooms, which essentially up here
for cement walls. You may or may not have a
roommate in there, but you will have a suite mate
that will be across and you'll share a bathroom together,
so you'll learn about sharing his caring at this point, almost.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Like a relationship.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
But you put guys in these environments because there's not
a lot of frills here.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
There's not a lot of stuff accessible to them except
for each other.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
So that's where the bonding begins for this team, and
you start to see what it means to be a
stealer because you have no place to hide.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
Anybody can come to your room.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
As Aaron Rodgers talked about a lot of times are
out camp guys would just knock and walk in, or
Bencecronic would not even knock, he just walk in. But
being accessible getting to know these guys, get to know
their stories, because that's really what makes the fabric of
a team, is the intimate knowledge of one another. Even
though you are held together by that one common goal,
which is to hold.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Up of a party trophy, you have a lot of
stories here, tell us about one that you remember. And
it's like crazy because with so many camps and every day,
like you have experiences on every day. So it's when
you when you finished that training covery, like, oh my gosh,
I had five stories around this.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
No, it's like almost like you know, you know how
you get those albums, right, you get the photo books
and you pair this is what happened in my year.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
You could do that with camp every single day.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
And I think for me when I was a player
that was sweating down on that field, bleeding on that
field even a.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Couple of times it is hot, But what I remember most.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Is being up in the in the dorm rooms and
the experience that you had just sitting around what we
called the stoop, which was right outside overlooking the baseball field,
and guys just kind of just congregating there, whether it
was playing cards under the tent, whether it was going
to somebody's room and having a FIFA tournament, because FIFA
was huge back when I played Call of Duty. Like
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we found these we would get competitive about checkers and
Connect four. Like, if you've ever wanted to see the
spirit of competition, throw a Connect four board out there
and just see what happens. That's kind of what we
were able to do. That's what I remember. I remember
those fun competitive moments where you could just be just
trying to get your mind off of how bad my
practice was that day, or what count I messed up on,
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or if I got beat. You get up there, all
of that washes away and now it's the next competition.
And that's why I love about it. You would get
the most unlikeliest combos of guys getting together and just
communing to where you know, now, I've been retired from
here what twelve years now, and I still call these
guys my brothers. When I see Taylor up in the
scouting room or I see an IT guest intern like
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Willie Cologne coming in, or Trey Essex, Russell Stuven's like,
we all shared something really really special over our time here,
no matter how long or how short, will always be
bonded by this experience.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
And this is what these guys will continue. This has
been here since nineteen sixty.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Six and it will continue until otherwise noted going for
the next generation of players that come through the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
How it yesterday it was the Humbrun Derby here, So
it's that competition.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
That was starting doing the Home Run Derby back in
the day.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
I made finalists one year. Oh, I did make the
finals one year. Ben of course. I mean he's great
at everything. I mean you put a basketball hoop out there,
you put a basically start throwing a baseball, darts, pool, shuffleboard,
whatever bid was that the.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Best at it.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
But I was like, I was happy to make it
in the top three one year in the Home Run Derby,
and I will always hold that special because that's back
when we still played it as a softball game and
then you had the Derby afterwards, so it was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You lift through this for over a decade.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Coaches get to you in mini camps, OTAs but when
they get you here, they're trying to obviously make sure
that everything's executed.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
What's the tone and the pressure and the attitude you
get from the coaching staff while you're here that you
may not necessarily see as the season starts and moves
forward forward.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
I think the biggest thing that you will see here
versus you get in the regular season is going to
be it's okay to make a mistake once, don't make
it twice.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Allowed the ability to mess up.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
That's what training camps for, right You're allowed to try
things new and figure out what you can and can
and get away with, like creating border walls. But once
you figure out where the one border is, don't go
near that border again. Stay in your lane and continue
to progress forward. If you keep bumping sideways, you're not
helping the rest of the team progress. So that was
the biggest thing that I learned here was making sure
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that you can make one mistake, don't make two of
the same variety.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And always there are some stories and moments that highlights
a training camp like this. You can see fire its
sometimes you can see opportunities to make big plays and
a player that nobody knows him goes there and with
his spotlight and what do you see this year calling
for the big story of the training come now that
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he ends.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
I think the biggest story coming out of here is
going to be the depth of the Steelers was more
than we expected because you look at every position group,
You go down the line, and you have plenty of dbs.
You have some good dbs that are going to be
cut here that are going to go on to other
teams and play. You have outside linebackers who are also
going to be good enough to play in the league,
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but not.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
For this team. Inside linebacker as well. Offensive line. I've
really enjoyed the depth of the offensive line this year. Quarterback,
even we just saw in a.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Game Saturday night, a fourth stream quarterback put on a
show against the first and second team units of Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Guess what if I'm the Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Jaguars, I'm looking up saying, why do I have Nick Mullens,
Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Nick Mullen, Skyler Tombs.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
There's a lot of teams that are gonna be calling
for Skylar thoms especially after the performance he put on.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Even even the bunter position is up for graps.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, how predictable is what you see in training camp?
How much does it allow you to say they should
have a good season or is it just free season?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
As everybody says, it's really not the real deal. Once
you get into the real deal, you find out more
about your team.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
How predictable, how much can you say from what I'm
looking at, this team should have this.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
I think you could probably glean about sixty percent of
your expectation from here, just because when you see the execution,
when you see the comfortability, the chemistry start to build
out there. The guys you know, for me as an
offensive lineman, right see twist recognitions, one of the easiest things,
Right guy slants, a guy loops around.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
How fast you guys react to that.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Those are the little things you look at like that
tracks that carries into the season because that means those
guys are on the same page and they're feeling the
same thing.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
The same thing with the defense.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
When you get a blitz package and everybody just kind
of knows and knows the flow, you'll see guys running
into each other because it's a brand new system. That's
when you kind of know, Okay, I'm not saying this
is a Super Bowl Championship. But I am saying this
is the proper ingredients that should be going into this
gumbo called a successful season.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And to be a contender. I mean, yeah, last time
when we wear tea on three ten on three, that
was part of what you were building. Obviously with the
last games everything changed. But how how do you see
this this team with the energy that then the chemistry
that they are building to keep strong until until the end,
because we're gonna have the buy on the Wig five
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so that that moment when you need to turn the
turn out the season right to the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah, And I think that's that's where I think the
depth comes in.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
You know, having quality depth and guys who can start
and as Mike Tomlin likes to call them, starters in waiting.
I think that's where you'll see that type of thing
because Atricia is gonna trickle in. That's that's no doubt
about it. We always say it's not a matter of if,
but when guys get injured, and how many at that
position group get injured will really determine the future of
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your franchise and the future of that season. But loving
the depth that we have here, loving quote quote unquote
what could potentially be on this practice squad. I think
all of those things play into it. And for the
first time since I've been back for the last five years,
I am really happy with how this team is really situated.
And they have a good problem, a problem that you
don't really hear. A lot of coaches say, oh my goodness,
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I have too many good players. No, oh my goodness
said by nobody.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Ever.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
That's the problem that they have, and that's a luxury
that these coaches are experiencing right now.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
But there is a challenge.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I actually sat down and looked at the construction of
the team in the last I went back twenty some years.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I want you to use your go back, go down
memory lane.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't remember seeing so much turnover in the roster
year to year in the history ninety.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Three years of the Pittsburgh Steevers. Yeah, it is crazy.
How do you manage that?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Omark on, That's why he gets paid the big bucks, right, But.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's one thing to bring them. Then you're gonna make
them play together.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Yeah, And omar Con in each successive year realized his
first year brought in forty five new faces out of
the ninety to come in here. Last year, fifty three
guys were brand new to the Steelers organization and then
now this year forty three new faces. High turnover, But
that's the evolution of this NFL game, right There's a
lot more turnover, a lot more shorter contracts, and you've got.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
To figure out who the right pieces are.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And for this year, especially looking at what they did
in free agency, they did something they had never really
done in their franchise history in the modern era. They
went and they attacked free agency. Not just entered free agency,
they attacked it. You started with dk Metcalf, you didn't
stop there. You went for Darius Slave, Brandon Eckles, you
went for Kenneth gain Well, and then, oh, by the way,
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the saga finally ended that seemed to be endless, and
you get Aaron Rodgers that you say, you know what,
we're not good with that, we're not good with that,
we need more. Go and get Jalen Ramsey and John
Smith in a trade for Mek Fitzpatrick right before camp.
That's the aggression level we haven't seen. And right now,
looking at those.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Pieces, you feel good about what they did and the
jumps that they took.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
All the while not only not handing future draft picks,
but accumulating them.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yes, yes, this is chess we're watching.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yes, it's a masterclass and movement.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Because now, whatever happens with Aaron Rodgers this year, you
are now in position. However, it turns out those draft
picks and that quote unquote capital that you have can
get you almost into any team door, in any team
conversation come draft day.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, and for these guys coming here recently, how to
input the DNA of the series, because that's the way
different when you are if you're drafted, you you can
grow up your career and getting all that, But when
you're getting here from one month ago, it's way different.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Right before we answer that question, I want you, I
want that question. What is the city of the NNA?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
What?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
In other words, a lot of teams play physical, a
lot of teams play tight.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You want to play for the team. Everybody says that,
what makes it different here?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You actually got to play with another team, not to
not to use them as simple simple comparison, but what
makes it different here? How are people screened? They don't
bring anybody in here? Why why that person and not
that person?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Well, I mean the easiest answer is the timlinism that
we all know the standard is the standard, right, but
what is that standard? That's that's what the common question
is for everybody that embarks upon covering the team, following
the team, and embracing the team.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
What is the standard? And why does he always say
the standard is the standard? But the standard is based
on excellence.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
And I think Muslimbardi always had that great quote that
talks about, you know, we're always chasing perfection, but you know,
we know we'll never attain it, but at the end
of the day, we will pick up excellence along the way.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
That's kind of what that standard is.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
When you look at the foundation that the late sixties
and seventies teams laid for what would be the identity
of the Steelers and what was that.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Stop the run and run the ball? That was the identity.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
So there's a certain toughness level that comes with that,
There's a physicality, there's a personal nature that it comes with,
and that grit, that determination is what you're looking for.
So when you go and you find let's just take
for example, Jalen Ramsey, like, well, why would Jalen Ramsey
fit here? Because he is he is what Ike Tailor
Effects called a professional gooon, meaning he's gonna chirp, he's
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gonna talk, but he's going to back it up. He's
going to fight. He's gonna chase you down. He's not
gonna quit, whether he's blitzing, whether he's covering, or whether
he's sitting in the hole trying to make a tackle.
He's gonna be very physical and abrasive in his approach.
John hus Smith another guy that is very physical, even
though he's not considered a run blocking tight end. The
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way he runs, he runs a route and the way
he's gonna finish forward is something that's attractive. When we
got practiced Queen a year ago. A guy who wanted
to talk and wanted to put his face in the fan.
That's what you're looking for. And then of course you drafted.
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This is the way we do things here.
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Guys?
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So moui bien I guess would be the proper phrasing
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Not happy to be here, and of course here at Steelers'
training camp twenty twenty.
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Five, it's it's special.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
It's a special place, and I know we're closing it down,
but this is where champions are made. Every single Super
Bowl champion has started here. So there's something special about
coming to Pittsburgh, coming to Le Trope and Saint Vincent's College.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Now, this idea that you hear players say it every year,
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What is that like? How does that work?
Speaker 7 (14:49):
So the first thing is you take everything that's comfortable
and known and you flip it on his head. You
remove guys out of all of the comforts of home.
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for cement walls. You may or may not have a
roommate in there, but you will have a suite mate
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so you'll learn about sharing his caring at this point, almost.
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Like a relationship.
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But you put guys in these environments because there's not
a lot of frills here.
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There's not a lot of stuff accessible to them except
for each other.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
So that's where the bonding begins for this team, and
you start to see what it means to be a
stealer because you have no place to hide.
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Anybody can come to your room.
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As Aaron Rodgers talked about a lot of times are
out camp guys would just knock and walk in, or
Bencecronic would not even knock, he just walk in. But
being accessible getting to know these guys, get to know
their stories, because that's really what makes the fabric of
a team, is the intimate knowledge of one another. Even
though you are held together by that one common goal,
which is to hold.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Up of a party trophy, you have a lot of
stories here, tell us about one that you remember. And
it's like crazy because with so many camps and every day,
like you have experiences on every day. So it's when
you when you finished that training covery, like, oh my gosh,
I had five stories around this.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah.
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No, it's like almost like you know, you know how
you get those albums, right, you get the photo books
and you pair this is what happened in my year.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
You could do that with camp every single day.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
And I think for me when I was a player
that was sweating down on that field, bleeding on that
field even a.
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Couple of times it is hot, But what I remember most.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Is being up in the in the dorm rooms and
the experience that you had just sitting around what we
called the stoop, which was right outside overlooking the baseball field,
and guys just kind of just congregating there, whether it
was playing cards under the tent, whether it was going
to somebody's room and having a FIFA tournament, because FIFA
was huge back when I played Call of Duty. Like
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we found these we would get competitive about checkers and
Connect four. Like, if you've ever wanted to see the
spirit of competition, throw a Connect four board out there
and just see what happens. That's kind of what we
were able to do. That's what I remember. I remember
those fun competitive moments where you could just be just
trying to get your mind off of how bad my
practice was that day, or what count I messed up on,
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or if I got beat. You get up there, all
of that washes away and now it's the next competition.
And that's why I love about it. You would get
the most unlikeliest combos of guys getting together and just
communing to where you know, now, I've been retired from
here what twelve years now, and I still call these
guys my brothers. When I see Taylor up in the
scouting room or I see an IT guest intern like
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Willie Cologne coming in, or Trey Essex, Russell Stuven's like,
we all shared something really really special over our time here,
no matter how long or how short, will always be
bonded by this experience.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
And this is what these guys will continue. This has
been here since nineteen sixty.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Six and it will continue until otherwise noted going for
the next generation of players that come through the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
How it yesterday it was the Humbrun Derby here, So
it's that competition.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
That was starting doing the Home Run Derby back in
the day.
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I made finalists one year. Oh, I did make the
finals one year. Ben of course. I mean he's great
at everything. I mean you put a basketball hoop out there,
you put a basically start throwing a baseball, darts, pool, shuffleboard,
whatever bid was that the.
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Best at it.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
But I was like, I was happy to make it
in the top three one year in the Home Run Derby,
and I will always hold that special because that's back
when we still played it as a softball game and
then you had the Derby afterwards, so it was pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
You lift through this for over a decade.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Coaches get to you in mini camps, OTAs but when
they get you here, they're trying to obviously make sure
that everything's executed.
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Well.
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What's the tone and the pressure and the attitude you
get from the coaching staff while you're here that you
may not necessarily see as the season starts and moves
forward forward.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
I think the biggest thing that you will see here
versus you get in the regular season is going to
be it's okay to make a mistake once, don't make
it twice.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Allowed the ability to mess up.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
That's what training camps for, right You're allowed to try
things new and figure out what you can and can
and get away with, like creating border walls. But once
you figure out where the one border is, don't go
near that border again. Stay in your lane and continue
to progress forward. If you keep bumping sideways, you're not
helping the rest of the team progress. So that was
the biggest thing that I learned here was making sure
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that you can make one mistake, don't make two of
the same variety.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
And always there are some stories and moments that highlights
a training camp like this. You can see fire its
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a player that nobody knows him goes there and with
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he ends.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
I think the biggest story coming out of here is
going to be the depth of the Steelers was more
than we expected because you look at every position group,
You go down the line, and you have plenty of dbs.
You have some good dbs that are going to be
cut here that are going to go on to other
teams and play. You have outside linebackers who are also
going to be good enough to play in the league,
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but not.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
For this team. Inside linebacker as well. Offensive line. I've
really enjoyed the depth of the offensive line this year. Quarterback,
even we just saw in a.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Game Saturday night, a fourth stream quarterback put on a
show against the first and second team units of Jacksonville.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Guess what if I'm the Jacksonville.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Jaguars, I'm looking up saying, why do I have Nick Mullens,
Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Nick Mullen, Skyler Tombs.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
There's a lot of teams that are gonna be calling
for Skylar thoms especially after the performance he put on.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Even even the bunter position is up for graps.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, how predictable is what you see in training camp?
How much does it allow you to say they should
have a good season or is it just free season?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
As everybody says, it's really not the real deal. Once
you get into the real deal, you find out more
about your team.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
How predictable, how much can you say from what I'm
looking at, this team should have this.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
I think you could probably glean about sixty percent of
your expectation from here, just because when you see the execution,
when you see the comfortability, the chemistry start to build
out there. The guys you know, for me as an
offensive lineman, right see twist recognitions, one of the easiest things,
Right guy slants, a guy loops around.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
How fast you guys react to that.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Those are the little things you look at like that
tracks that carries into the season because that means those
guys are on the same page and they're feeling the
same thing.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
The same thing with the defense.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
When you get a blitz package and everybody just kind
of knows and knows the flow, you'll see guys running
into each other because it's a brand new system. That's
when you kind of know, Okay, I'm not saying this
is a Super Bowl Championship. But I am saying this
is the proper ingredients that should be going into this
gumbo called a successful season.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
And to be a contender. I mean, yeah, last time
when we wear tea on three ten on three, that
was part of what you were building. Obviously with the
last games everything changed. But how how do you see
this this team with the energy that then the chemistry
that they are building to keep strong until until the end,
because we're gonna have the buy on the Wig five
(22:10):
so that that moment when you need to turn the
turn out the season right to the Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yeah, And I think that's that's where I think the
depth comes in.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
You know, having quality depth and guys who can start
and as Mike Tomlin likes to call them, starters in waiting.
I think that's where you'll see that type of thing
because Atricia is gonna trickle in. That's that's no doubt
about it. We always say it's not a matter of if,
but when guys get injured, and how many at that
position group get injured will really determine the future of
(22:40):
your franchise and the future of that season. But loving
the depth that we have here, loving quote quote unquote
what could potentially be on this practice squad. I think
all of those things play into it. And for the
first time since I've been back for the last five years,
I am really happy with how this team is really situated.
And they have a good problem, a problem that you
don't really hear. A lot of coaches say, oh my goodness,
(23:02):
I have too many good players. No, oh my goodness
said by nobody.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Ever.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
That's the problem that they have, and that's a luxury
that these coaches are experiencing right now.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
But there is a challenge.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I actually sat down and looked at the construction of
the team in the last I went back twenty some years.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I want you to use your go back, go down
memory lane.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't remember seeing so much turnover in the roster
year to year in the history ninety.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Three years of the Pittsburgh Steevers. Yeah, it is crazy.
How do you manage that?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Omark on, That's why he gets paid the big bucks, right, But.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's one thing to bring them. Then you're gonna make
them play together.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Yeah, And omar Con in each successive year realized his
first year brought in forty five new faces out of
the ninety to come in here. Last year, fifty three
guys were brand new to the Steelers organization and then
now this year forty three new faces. High turnover, But
that's the evolution of this NFL game, right There's a
lot more turnover, a lot more shorter contracts, and you've got.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
To figure out who the right pieces are.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And for this year, especially looking at what they did
in free agency, they did something they had never really
done in their franchise history in the modern era. They
went and they attacked free agency. Not just entered free agency,
they attacked it. You started with dk Metcalf, you didn't
stop there. You went for Darius Slave, Brandon Eckles, you
went for Kenneth gain Well, and then, oh, by the way,
(24:22):
the saga finally ended that seemed to be endless, and
you get Aaron Rodgers that you say, you know what,
we're not good with that, we're not good with that,
we need more. Go and get Jalen Ramsey and John
Smith in a trade for Mek Fitzpatrick right before camp.
That's the aggression level we haven't seen. And right now,
looking at those.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Pieces, you feel good about what they did and the
jumps that they took.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
All the while not only not handing future draft picks,
but accumulating them.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yes, yes, this is chess we're watching.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yes, it's a masterclass and movement.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Because now, whatever happens with Aaron Rodgers this year, you
are now in position. However, it turns out those draft
picks and that quote unquote capital that you have can
get you almost into any team door, in any team
conversation come draft day.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, and for these guys coming here recently, how to
input the DNA of the series, because that's the way
different when you are if you're drafted, you you can
grow up your career and getting all that, But when
you're getting here from one month ago, it's way different.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Right before we answer that question, I want you, I
want that question. What is the city of the NNA?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
What?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
In other words, a lot of teams play physical, a
lot of teams play tight.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You want to play for the team. Everybody says that,
what makes it different here?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
You actually got to play with another team, not to
not to use them as simple simple comparison, but what
makes it different here? How are people screened? They don't
bring anybody in here? Why why that person and not
that person?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Well, I mean the easiest answer is the timlinism that
we all know the standard is the standard, right, but
what is that standard? That's that's what the common question
is for everybody that embarks upon covering the team, following
the team, and embracing the team.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
What is the standard? And why does he always say
the standard is the standard? But the standard is based
on excellence.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
And I think Muslimbardi always had that great quote that
talks about, you know, we're always chasing perfection, but you know,
we know we'll never attain it, but at the end
of the day, we will pick up excellence along the way.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
That's kind of what that standard is.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
When you look at the foundation that the late sixties
and seventies teams laid for what would be the identity
of the Steelers and what was that.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Stop the run and run the ball? That was the identity.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
So there's a certain toughness level that comes with that,
There's a physicality, there's a personal nature that it comes with,
and that grit, that determination is what you're looking for.
So when you go and you find let's just take
for example, Jalen Ramsey, like, well, why would Jalen Ramsey
fit here? Because he is he is what Ike Tailor
Effects called a professional gooon, meaning he's gonna chirp, he's
(27:03):
gonna talk, but he's going to back it up. He's
going to fight. He's gonna chase you down. He's not
gonna quit, whether he's blitzing, whether he's covering, or whether
he's sitting in the hole trying to make a tackle.
He's gonna be very physical and abrasive in his approach.
John hus Smith another guy that is very physical, even
though he's not considered a run blocking tight end. The
(27:24):
way he runs, he runs a route and the way
he's gonna finish forward is something that's attractive. When we
got practiced Queen a year ago. A guy who wanted
to talk and wanted to put his face in the fan.
That's what you're looking for. And then of course you drafted.
You drafted. You find these guys to fit your personality
a Progerck Jones, for instance, physical demanding, he looks the part,
(27:44):
but yet he's gonna be in your face and sometimes
you might get a penalty. Darnauld Washington just insert definition
of what a steeler looks like. It's humungous and menacing
and can still dunk a football, you know, dunkle football
through an upright with three hundred plus pounds. That's what
you're looking for. That's the grit, the toughness. But to
go about every day with the blue collar mentality to
(28:06):
know that like a TJ. Watt, Like even though he's
not practicing, he's doing something. He is always actively practicing
a skill set. When he's sitting out of practice, everybody's
sitting on the bench. Him and Cam Heyward running the
hula hoops. They're doing all of these different things to
get themselves better. And I think that's what you have
to be a self motivated person to be a Pittsburgh Steeler.
To go back to his question, how does that instill?
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Is it the coaching staff or is it the veteran
that tells the young player, you know what, this is
the way we roll here.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
This is the way we do things here.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
I think it's a mix of both. But the biggest
impact is the player. Like seeing the physical embodiment in
your player room. You're looking at Okay, if I'm a
defensive lineman, we'll shoot. Cam Hayward's doing it. Why am
I not doing that?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Right?
Speaker 6 (28:46):
He's been in the league fourteen years.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
I've only been here three years or I've been here
a day, like I need to do what he's doing,
I mean, because obviously it's worked out for him. TJ
Watt the same way Jack Sawyer has been attached at
the hip of TJ and Nick Herbik, trying to fit
out what that is for the offense of mine, following
Isaac c Amalu and seeing what he's doing, trying to
create that identity for themselves. But then you have some
guys like and Aaron Rodgers, just like resume speaks for itself.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I don't got to do anything.
Speaker 7 (29:11):
If I'm Will Howard, I'm just mimicking everything that he does.
I'm at his hip. I'm asking question. In fact, when
he's saying open door policy, I walked in with him
so I didn't have to knock on the door. That's
the type of mentality you want to.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
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