August 30, 2024 • 14 mins
Okay the pop girlies are fighting!!!!! Sabrina Carpenter’s very explicit song Taste is all about how she used to date Shawn Mendes, but then when he got back together with Camila, Sabrina warns her ‘you’ll just have to taste me when he’s kissing you.’ Wowee! We break it all down in the brand new season of our EduKate podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is it sits in Her with Kate Riki podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back, guys. We're going to call this season two
of the Educate Podcast today. It is me, Kate and Jess.
Lizzie will be joining us from here on in, but
she just isn't here today. So we thought we'd do
a bit of pop culture warm up for the next
season with just the two of us. And I'm loving
(00:29):
this because I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, well we're doing today.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
We're doing maybe this is the reason Lizzie's not here,
because we're not doing Taylor Swift. We're doing her very
good friend, Sabrina Carpenters, who has just dropped a brand
new album. That album has sort of led to a
little bit of chat around who the songs might be about.
There's a little bit of a love triangle going on,
so we thought we'd break it down today. First of all,
have you listened to Sabrina's new album? It is called
(00:53):
Short and Sweet? Have you heard that at all?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I did listen to some of it in the car
with my ten year old daughter, was a big fan
of Sabrina. Of course, we only realized who Sabrina Carpenter
was thanks to Taylor swit exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
But I have to say I did.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Have to say to my daughter, Mummy might just have
to listen to this album on her own because we
were just listening to it in the car. May likes
to read the lyrics as well. Oh, I wouldn't be
doing all this album. No, And that's what I mean.
So I've probably only listened to about half of it
(01:31):
because I realized that perhaps it wasn't age appropriate. But
and now that you're going to explain a few things
to me, it might even be less.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So can I say it certainly isn't age appropriate for
a ten year old? And I did see a great
post on Twitter and someone said, parents of seven and
eight year old Sabrina fans, you are fighting for your
lives out there, because no doubt your kid.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Wants to listen. Of course, Oh there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Lines in there that you probably don't want to have
to explain to a young child.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So okay, yeah, it's actually quite good.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I think this is her like third or fourth studio album,
which means that she's sort of grown up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
A lot of the fans have grown up with her.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
She's got a lot of new listeners, which is fantastic,
but if you are a younger listener, this one might.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Not might help me with you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So explain this love triangle? Okay, who does it involve
and why haven't I heard about it?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know, I know what We've been too much.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
We've been too focused on Taylor's with Now we need
to expand. Okay, there's lots going on with other artists,
believe it or not, because.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The only thing I really knew about Sabrina is that
she was dating the guy from Saltburn.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's right, and they actually and are they still still dating?
Confirmed that because she has released a new video clip.
I think Brats might have made like a doll from
the video clip, and he has commented on and said
where can I get one of these? So they were
kind of questions earlier last week about whether they were
still together or not. Confirmed they are still together, Barry,
his name is yes.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
This is a love triangle between Serena Carpenter, Sean Mendez
of all people, and can Cabo, who is Sean Mendes's
ex girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay, all right, let me take you through the timelines.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So Camilla and Sean dated for about two years they
ended up breaking up in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, two COVID.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well it happened to everyone, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It got them Actually in COVID, they would always be
paparazzi pictures of them, and they would go for a
walk around the block and they'd always be carrying like
a mug with them, just something that psychopaths do. I
can don't go for a walk on the street with
a mug like gonna take away cut.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And was it a cup of tea or was it
a shardon a hard.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
To say, hard to say, You never know is what
is in there? Okay, So they broke up in twenty
twenty one. We then see Sabrina Carpenter and Sean Mendes
pictured together for the first time in February twenty twenty three,
having dinner together in La So blogs are going off,
Instagram page pages, you know, are getting tips.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Dumoir is in on it.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
We've seen them sighting the first official sightings. They then
the following MANK, so this is you know a little
bit of time part.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Who is this? Who's this?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
This is Sewan Mendes, yes, and Sabrina Cassander. They're then
spotted leaving a release party for Miley Cyrus's Endless Summer
Vacation that was her album, fueling further speculation they're dating.
They then attend the Vanity Fair Oscars party separately, but
a source told Entertainment Tonight that they were a thing,
and fans also speculated that Sean had been wearing an
(04:24):
emerald necklace in honor of Carpenter's May birthstone.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh okay, so there's a lot of rumors.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Flying around that they're dating. However, days later, days after
they've attended that party and stead of have been seen together,
Sean has denied that they're anything more than friends, and
he said we are not dating. He's told a Dutch
TV program that so gone on the record and said no,
we're not dating.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay, when he's been asked nowt right, He's been asked.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Out right exactly okay.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And then one month later we see Sean Mendes he's
in Coachella. Who pops up at Coachella but Camilla Cabo,
his ex. We see them making out at Coachella. It's
back on. All the fans are very excited and they've
rekindled their romance basically. So that's twenty twenty three, two
years down the track exactly. So you know, long lost
(05:10):
lovers reunited. We love a story like that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's always nice.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And so someone had said, oh, actually no, sorry, they're rekindled.
Romance lasted until June twenty twenty three, so just a
couple of months, and then it said Kimilla was the
one who ended at Shwan's upset. Okay, so we don't
think too much more on that. Really they've broken up again.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And that's twelve months ago.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now, yeah, old.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
News until Sabrina drops Short and Sweet. Now, can I
say the first thing about this album? Apart from her
being short and Sweet, there's a few sort of meetings.
She also said in an interview I think with Zane
Low that it's called short and sweet because she had
some of her shortest ever relationships, but they've had the
most impact on her. So we're seeing pretty much like
(05:54):
a Maddie Healy tortured Poets Department, where he gets a
whole album written about him over like a few month relationships.
Fans are saying that is what has happened here with Sabrina,
because there's a few songs on there that we can
probably guess are about new boyfriend Barry, but if you
listen to a lot of them, they are about a
bit of a love triangle, something that's ended, something that
she thought would last a little bit longer, which makes
(06:16):
for great songs. Can I just say I have listened
to this album back to front for the past like
four days straight, anytime I'm in the car.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It is so good. It's thirty two minutes, very easy
to listen to it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
How many tracks I think there's.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like twelve tracks.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The first track on the album is called Taste We've
just started playing on the radio.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It is such a good song.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It kind of talks about it's directed at your ex's.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
New girlfriend or potentially in this case.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I have heard this one when I said, we
listened to it in the car and my ten year
old it was it was like, I know you're back
with you're back together, but you can taste me on.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Them exactly have a little listen to it. Not age appropriate,
absolutely not just meciss men.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Taste me so catchy and I loved off the back
of this.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I probably shouldn't laugh at this, but Camilla Cobeo released
an album I Don't Know a few months ago but
it wasn't really in the It was called like it's
in the hyper pop genre. It didn't really land. We
didn't really play any of it here. And someone said,
they're finding all these lyrics that she had already written
about this situation. And someone said, it's amazing that Sabrina
had to release an album for people to then actually
(07:38):
listen and realized she'd actually told us the whole story earlier,
just not that many people had heard it, which is
a little bit of a shame. So Taste great song
very much alludes to the fact that he's gone back
to back. Can you Taste Me on the Lips? Some
great lyrics there, they're.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Fits and with a with Kate Whitchie podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
She also dropped a video for Taste Now. This stars
Jenna or Tager, who you might know is Wednesday Adams
in that most recent Okay Yes show, and they sort
of are going back and forth. Great clip, lots of murder.
It's very gory. They're like finding all these different ways
to kill each other. She looks a lot like Camilla
Cabeo if you've ever put them side by side, if
(08:17):
you were casting someone to play Camilla Caabao in a movie,
you'd probably cast jedi Oteger, so I think it has
been done intentionally.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
There's also a great song on the album. It is
called Coincidence. Now keep in mind that when we were
chatting just before we found out that Camilla and Sean
are back together in Coachella. Coachella takes place in Palm Springs.
Have a little listen to some lyrics here, control.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Troll sprays, loos nice, sellous, looks kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You up group.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
At least that's what you say.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Palm Springs look looks nice. But who's by your side?
She looks like the girl you outgrew.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, that's at least what you said.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So we're getting the story, which I absolutely love. There's
a few other lines that are just throughout the whole
I mean, look, let's be honest. The whole album is
about it. But I just picked out a few little
about Sean. Yeah, I think so, I can't.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So there's a few little moments in there that I love.
There's another song called Dumb and Poetic. There's a line
in there about someone taking mushrooms. First.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I want to play you something that Sean said on tour.
Have a little listen to this.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I was exploring five years old for the first time
in my life, and I was exploring, and I feel
like everyone should.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So the claim is he's done. She does mushrooms freeze anxiety.
That calms him down. As you might remember, he had
to cancel his big world tour.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's too much pressure. Has experimented a little bit. And
then we get this, this line from It's Got This
song is called dumb and poetic. You don't want a
song written about you. Dumb and poetic have little very
(10:19):
much calling out things we've now heard publicly, like she
would know that he's going around saying that, So putting
that in there very much makes that song about him.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And are you saying that they weren't even together for
very long at all? So this was like a couple
of months, a whirlwind of a relationship, quite full on.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, And I think maybe we in the real world
discount the fact that a few months, like it's a fling,
like a couple of months relationship. But if you're an
artist and you can make bank out of a great song,
that relationship can and should mean a lot to you.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, this is the other little bit of audio I
want to play you. Now, this is a Jessmax special
on a reach here like my arms are sore from
reaching this?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
All right, okay, but it's got to be I'm gonna
go with you, Okay, stay with me.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Sean released a song called Why Why Why, and there's
a line in there. Have a little listen to this first,
and then I'll talk you through. Its farther.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Should be the core. I'm still a kid, so.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow, so thought he was about to be a father
shook him to his core. So obviously, I don't know
what has happened there in that scenario. We won't speculate
too much.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But it hasn't its Welcome to the podcast. It hasn't eventuated, obviously.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But when I listened to the full Sabrina album, this
song then caught my ear a little bit. Have listened
to the lyrics and then I'll talk you through exactly why.
You might actually get it because.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
It's a movie reference.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
No, you're much such for.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Then, you know?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Just excute still on the great song.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
It is called Juno, so you might have heard the lyrics.
One of me is fine, but too though, I want
you to make me Juno. No, have you seen the
movie Juno? I have Okay the movie Juno, So this
song references the movie two thousand and seven movie of
the same name. It's played the protagonist is played by
Elliott Page, who was pregnant, So it's a movie about
(12:49):
being pregnant and then sort of.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
All her journey. She was a teenen mum in that movie.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But like about everyone coming together and like finding love
and raising this baby and everything. I just think it's
a bit of an odd coincidence that Sean's gone from
saying he might be a father or thought I was
going to be a father, and then Sabrina releases a.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Song on the album all about wanting to be pregnant.
Too much of a.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Stretch where we are. It's a hard one to comment on,
I know, isn't it? But it makes sense?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I think it's I mean, some might argue that it
makes more sense than other things you've said. I think
you've stretched further before.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I could be on the money here, although you could
go the other way and you could say that if
she was potentially the mother to be, she would never
ever talk about it, and putting this song in means
it absolutely wasn't her.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I've given you two options on a platoff since
you ticked all of the boxes, so you're right on
every argument.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
This is great, you know, lots of crossover. Yeah, so
I really recommend have a listened to Sabrina's album.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
There's so many great but maybe listen to it when
you don't have your daughter in the car.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, there is a lyric in there which says you
and me would make and then she says come right
on me, and then she says, oh, I mean camaraderie
like changes the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, this is is She's quite cheeky and she sang
it all out, she all out on the table.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But yeah, eight out of ten from me.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh well, we'll go back and have another listen and
look at it through very different eyes or ears.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But this is the thing, I didn't know anything about
this relationship up until now.
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Is it sits in Her with Kate Riki podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Welcome back, guys. We're going to call this season two
of the Educate Podcast today. It is me, Kate and Jess.
Lizzie will be joining us from here on in, but
she just isn't here today. So we thought we'd do
a bit of pop culture warm up for the next
season with just the two of us. And I'm loving
(00:29):
this because I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, well we're doing today.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
We're doing maybe this is the reason Lizzie's not here,
because we're not doing Taylor Swift. We're doing her very
good friend, Sabrina Carpenters, who has just dropped a brand
new album. That album has sort of led to a
little bit of chat around who the songs might be about.
There's a little bit of a love triangle going on,
so we thought we'd break it down today. First of all,
have you listened to Sabrina's new album? It is called
(00:53):
Short and Sweet? Have you heard that at all?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I did listen to some of it in the car
with my ten year old daughter, was a big fan
of Sabrina. Of course, we only realized who Sabrina Carpenter
was thanks to Taylor swit exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
But I have to say I did.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Have to say to my daughter, Mummy might just have
to listen to this album on her own because we
were just listening to it in the car. May likes
to read the lyrics as well. Oh, I wouldn't be
doing all this album. No, And that's what I mean.
So I've probably only listened to about half of it
(01:31):
because I realized that perhaps it wasn't age appropriate. But
and now that you're going to explain a few things
to me, it might even be less.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So can I say it certainly isn't age appropriate for
a ten year old? And I did see a great
post on Twitter and someone said, parents of seven and
eight year old Sabrina fans, you are fighting for your
lives out there, because no doubt your kid.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Wants to listen. Of course, Oh there's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Lines in there that you probably don't want to have
to explain to a young child.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So okay, yeah, it's actually quite good.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I think this is her like third or fourth studio album,
which means that she's sort of grown up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
A lot of the fans have grown up with her.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
She's got a lot of new listeners, which is fantastic,
but if you are a younger listener, this one might.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Not might help me with you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
So explain this love triangle? Okay, who does it involve
and why haven't I heard about it?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I know, I know what We've been too much.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
We've been too focused on Taylor's with Now we need
to expand. Okay, there's lots going on with other artists,
believe it or not, because.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The only thing I really knew about Sabrina is that
she was dating the guy from Saltburn.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's right, and they actually and are they still still dating?
Confirmed that because she has released a new video clip.
I think Brats might have made like a doll from
the video clip, and he has commented on and said
where can I get one of these? So they were
kind of questions earlier last week about whether they were
still together or not. Confirmed they are still together, Barry,
his name is yes.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
This is a love triangle between Serena Carpenter, Sean Mendez
of all people, and can Cabo, who is Sean Mendes's
ex girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay, all right, let me take you through the timelines.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So Camilla and Sean dated for about two years they
ended up breaking up in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, two COVID.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well it happened to everyone, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It got them Actually in COVID, they would always be
paparazzi pictures of them, and they would go for a
walk around the block and they'd always be carrying like
a mug with them, just something that psychopaths do. I
can don't go for a walk on the street with
a mug like gonna take away cut.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And was it a cup of tea or was it
a shardon a hard.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
To say, hard to say, You never know is what
is in there? Okay, So they broke up in twenty
twenty one. We then see Sabrina Carpenter and Sean Mendes
pictured together for the first time in February twenty twenty three,
having dinner together in La So blogs are going off,
Instagram page pages, you know, are getting tips.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Dumoir is in on it.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
We've seen them sighting the first official sightings. They then
the following MANK, so this is you know a little
bit of time part.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Who is this? Who's this?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
This is Sewan Mendes, yes, and Sabrina Cassander. They're then
spotted leaving a release party for Miley Cyrus's Endless Summer
Vacation that was her album, fueling further speculation they're dating.
They then attend the Vanity Fair Oscars party separately, but
a source told Entertainment Tonight that they were a thing,
and fans also speculated that Sean had been wearing an
(04:24):
emerald necklace in honor of Carpenter's May birthstone.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh okay, so there's a lot of rumors.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Flying around that they're dating. However, days later, days after
they've attended that party and stead of have been seen together,
Sean has denied that they're anything more than friends, and
he said we are not dating. He's told a Dutch
TV program that so gone on the record and said no,
we're not dating.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay, when he's been asked nowt right, He's been asked.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Out right exactly okay.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And then one month later we see Sean Mendes he's
in Coachella. Who pops up at Coachella but Camilla Cabo,
his ex. We see them making out at Coachella. It's
back on. All the fans are very excited and they've
rekindled their romance basically. So that's twenty twenty three, two
years down the track exactly. So you know, long lost
(05:10):
lovers reunited. We love a story like that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
It's always nice.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And so someone had said, oh, actually no, sorry, they're rekindled.
Romance lasted until June twenty twenty three, so just a
couple of months, and then it said Kimilla was the
one who ended at Shwan's upset. Okay, so we don't
think too much more on that. Really they've broken up again.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And that's twelve months ago.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Now, yeah, old.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
News until Sabrina drops Short and Sweet. Now, can I
say the first thing about this album? Apart from her
being short and Sweet, there's a few sort of meetings.
She also said in an interview I think with Zane
Low that it's called short and sweet because she had
some of her shortest ever relationships, but they've had the
most impact on her. So we're seeing pretty much like
(05:54):
a Maddie Healy tortured Poets Department, where he gets a
whole album written about him over like a few month relationships.
Fans are saying that is what has happened here with Sabrina,
because there's a few songs on there that we can
probably guess are about new boyfriend Barry, but if you
listen to a lot of them, they are about a
bit of a love triangle, something that's ended, something that
she thought would last a little bit longer, which makes
(06:16):
for great songs. Can I just say I have listened
to this album back to front for the past like
four days straight, anytime I'm in the car.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It is so good. It's thirty two minutes, very easy
to listen to it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
How many tracks I think there's.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like twelve tracks.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
The first track on the album is called Taste We've
just started playing on the radio.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It is such a good song.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It kind of talks about it's directed at your ex's.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
New girlfriend or potentially in this case.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I have heard this one when I said, we
listened to it in the car and my ten year
old it was it was like, I know you're back
with you're back together, but you can taste me on.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Them exactly have a little listen to it. Not age appropriate,
absolutely not just meciss men.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Taste me so catchy and I loved off the back
of this.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I probably shouldn't laugh at this, but Camilla Cobeo released
an album I Don't Know a few months ago but
it wasn't really in the It was called like it's
in the hyper pop genre. It didn't really land. We
didn't really play any of it here. And someone said,
they're finding all these lyrics that she had already written
about this situation. And someone said, it's amazing that Sabrina
had to release an album for people to then actually
(07:38):
listen and realized she'd actually told us the whole story earlier,
just not that many people had heard it, which is
a little bit of a shame. So Taste great song
very much alludes to the fact that he's gone back
to back. Can you Taste Me on the Lips? Some
great lyrics there, they're.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Fits and with a with Kate Whitchie podcast.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
She also dropped a video for Taste Now. This stars
Jenna or Tager, who you might know is Wednesday Adams
in that most recent Okay Yes show, and they sort
of are going back and forth. Great clip, lots of murder.
It's very gory. They're like finding all these different ways
to kill each other. She looks a lot like Camilla
Cabeo if you've ever put them side by side, if
(08:17):
you were casting someone to play Camilla Caabao in a movie,
you'd probably cast jedi Oteger, so I think it has
been done intentionally.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
There's also a great song on the album. It is
called Coincidence. Now keep in mind that when we were
chatting just before we found out that Camilla and Sean
are back together in Coachella. Coachella takes place in Palm Springs.
Have a little listen to some lyrics here, control.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Troll sprays, loos nice, sellous, looks kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You up group.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
At least that's what you say.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Palm Springs look looks nice. But who's by your side?
She looks like the girl you outgrew.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Well, that's at least what you said.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So we're getting the story, which I absolutely love. There's
a few other lines that are just throughout the whole
I mean, look, let's be honest. The whole album is
about it. But I just picked out a few little
about Sean. Yeah, I think so, I can't.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
So there's a few little moments in there that I love.
There's another song called Dumb and Poetic. There's a line
in there about someone taking mushrooms. First.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I want to play you something that Sean said on tour.
Have a little listen to this.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I was exploring five years old for the first time
in my life, and I was exploring, and I feel
like everyone should.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So the claim is he's done. She does mushrooms freeze anxiety.
That calms him down. As you might remember, he had
to cancel his big world tour.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's too much pressure. Has experimented a little bit. And
then we get this, this line from It's Got This
song is called dumb and poetic. You don't want a
song written about you. Dumb and poetic have little very
(10:19):
much calling out things we've now heard publicly, like she
would know that he's going around saying that, So putting
that in there very much makes that song about him.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
And are you saying that they weren't even together for
very long at all? So this was like a couple
of months, a whirlwind of a relationship, quite full on.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, And I think maybe we in the real world
discount the fact that a few months, like it's a fling,
like a couple of months relationship. But if you're an
artist and you can make bank out of a great song,
that relationship can and should mean a lot to you.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, this is the other little bit of audio I
want to play you. Now, this is a Jessmax special
on a reach here like my arms are sore from
reaching this?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
All right, okay, but it's got to be I'm gonna
go with you, Okay, stay with me.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Sean released a song called Why Why Why, and there's
a line in there. Have a little listen to this first,
and then I'll talk you through. Its farther.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Should be the core. I'm still a kid, so.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow, so thought he was about to be a father
shook him to his core. So obviously, I don't know
what has happened there in that scenario. We won't speculate
too much.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
But it hasn't its Welcome to the podcast. It hasn't eventuated, obviously.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
But when I listened to the full Sabrina album, this
song then caught my ear a little bit. Have listened
to the lyrics and then I'll talk you through exactly why.
You might actually get it because.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
It's a movie reference.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
No, you're much such for.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Then, you know?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Just excute still on the great song.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
It is called Juno, so you might have heard the lyrics.
One of me is fine, but too though, I want
you to make me Juno. No, have you seen the
movie Juno? I have Okay the movie Juno, So this
song references the movie two thousand and seven movie of
the same name. It's played the protagonist is played by
Elliott Page, who was pregnant, So it's a movie about
(12:49):
being pregnant and then sort of.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
All her journey. She was a teenen mum in that movie.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
But like about everyone coming together and like finding love
and raising this baby and everything. I just think it's
a bit of an odd coincidence that Sean's gone from
saying he might be a father or thought I was
going to be a father, and then Sabrina releases a.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Song on the album all about wanting to be pregnant.
Too much of a.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Stretch where we are. It's a hard one to comment on,
I know, isn't it? But it makes sense?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I think it's I mean, some might argue that it
makes more sense than other things you've said. I think
you've stretched further before.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I could be on the money here, although you could
go the other way and you could say that if
she was potentially the mother to be, she would never
ever talk about it, and putting this song in means
it absolutely wasn't her.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I've given you two options on a platoff since
you ticked all of the boxes, so you're right on
every argument.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
This is great, you know, lots of crossover. Yeah, so
I really recommend have a listened to Sabrina's album.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
There's so many great but maybe listen to it when
you don't have your daughter in the car.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah, there is a lyric in there which says you
and me would make and then she says come right
on me, and then she says, oh, I mean camaraderie
like changes the lyrics.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, this is is She's quite cheeky and she sang
it all out, she all out on the table.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But yeah, eight out of ten from me.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh well, we'll go back and have another listen and
look at it through very different eyes or ears.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
What do you do?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But this is the thing, I didn't know anything about
this relationship up until now.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
You're on the perfect pod. Then educ Caten, I need
a little sting that says that sits.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
In Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast walk
great shows like this.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Download the Nova Player, find the app Store or Google
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