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October 16, 2024 14 mins

We’re talking about the things people get away with in prison after seeing P-Diddy still has access to his Instagram account? But scratch all that because Kate told the craziest story about how she received fan mail from prisoners and what the love letters were written on... 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Fitting and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Prison. We need to talk about this. Never never been
in no May, I not yet not spent a night
in there, unfortunately with Timmy Boston.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
And I needed some help from Timmy Boston in the
prison cell, and unfortunately he was asleep on the concrete bed.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Kate, Oh wow, must have been very tired.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Do you know what we've all seen the movies and
what we do know that there's always someone in jail
that can get you something.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I understand you around and knows how to good things.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm not in a lot keep certain things.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
What a movie? What a movie?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
And I mean you, I mean we always go back
to Share Shank Redemption when we when we try to
imagine being in a prison and surviving in there, you
go back to red don't you.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Get busy?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Dar?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
So wow?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I mean, what can you do in prison?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Obviously I've heard you know, like there's obviously you've got
to earn money, You've got to get your rights, make number,
you're meant to rehabilitate.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Isn't that the point? But that's a fair call.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11):
I went to one and they had a bakery and
a bakery in the prison, so I.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Have to eat bread, No, but a lot of the like.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
It was a manufacturing bakery, working bakery, so the prisoners would.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Make the bread.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That's great.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
Bread truck would take the bread out to I don't
know the distributor suburbs.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I mean if you earn it.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I heard as well that you can get a birthday
cake on your birthday? Can you and a few prisoners
and you're allowed to have a little party in your
little selvie just.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
To remind you of what it was like on the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thirteen twenty four to ten.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
And you can remain anonymous, but I'd love to hear
from you if you've been to prison before and what
can you do in there? This is really weird because
people are freaking out. Sean Diddy Combs has just wished
he's happy his daughter a happy birthday on Instagram despite
being behinds How.

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Does he does he have access to his Instagram or
was that pre planned? You know when you can schedule things.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday,
my love, Happy birthday to you. Daddy loves you and
he's on his Instagram account, say did He's obviously got
a phone in prison. How do you acquire a phone
in prison?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
I didn't think you're allowed to have a phone in prison, But.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know there's a jail in Finland where you're allowed
to you you're allowed to borrow the prison car and
go for a bit of a drive for the day.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
Well, I think that must be low security. Were talking
about Goldbann are we.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
You know the prison that I visited, they had an
issue and there was a recent drama because the prisoners
had worked out how to make alcohol through They were
using the water that they would get from the irrigation
from the springless system in the yard, so they would

(03:02):
actually end up brewing it in the sprinkless system. That's
it would ferment in the sprinkless system and drink.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
It with skins or something.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, and the guards are always they were always so fascinated. Whyever,
I'm god, it so excited when the sprinkless came on.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, isn't you need potato?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Don't your potato is what you need in there with
water and you let it ferment for quite a while.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
It's amazing stuff what they're able to come up with,
even if it's like homemade tattoo guns and stuff.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Isn't it survival the internet as well? They get the
Internet in there.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Sometimes you need the Do you need the internet to
post on Instagram?

Speaker 6 (03:50):
Then what happens to yeah, of course, well you might
just have data data data.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
The other thing is too What can happen is the
romance that might start between a prisoner and a guard,
and then through that love connection, the guard starts slipping
a few.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Naughty things into the system.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is the thing.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Help with escape and help with that happened not long ago.
Helped with the escape.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's a hail Mary, But what can you do in jail?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I mean, I know there's alevanchority off our listeners will
not be able to give us a call on this one.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
But every now and then we've had before.

Speaker 7 (04:26):
Yeah, I had, I had it. I'll tell you in
a second. But I had a I had fan mail
from prison. Can on that, Yeah, I'll tell you what
it was written on.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay, Lauren's given us kill from doing so Good.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Morning, laws, Good morning, how are you?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Good? Now you've been to jail before.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
What are some of the things that we traditionally wouldn't
think that you can do in jail?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Lauren?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Are you be quite surprised what you get into prison. Yeah,
you can source on the outside, you can get on
the inside. How does it get in all through mail?
Through andy spools over the fence. Yes, so they load
up a tennis ball and then they hit it over
the fence.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wow, it gets.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Into the wrong hands.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Well yeah, well that's right. It's got to be. It's
got to be timing right spots, and they're very clever.
You'd be surprised you end up more corrupt when you
go into prison than when you were out. You learn
very sophisticated things in there to learn how to make
things out of nothing. So out of bed sheets you
make like fishing lines. There you can fish stuff from

(05:38):
other inmates while you're locked in your room. Wow, how
to make a kettle out of a meal skin? A song?
I could boil a kettle. You plug it into the
power and you blad your books up. You sit your
cup on top, and the boil goes into the cup,

(05:58):
but the rubber thong stops it earthing out.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh my god, you boil a kettle.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Complain it's for cockerroach babe.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
Wow, Lauren, So it's funny how you say that You
become very clever, and because you don't have the usual
means of getting things, you become more creative.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Do you think then in that way.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Alcohol everything they make alcohol in jail, which bread Vegimi, Jammi, Lauren?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Is it like share shank redemption though, where there is
always someone inside that can get you things and you
need to pay for those.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yes, right, that's correct that it's bartering with your buy up. Yeah,
jail's disgusting, honestly. Yeah, I was going to say basically, yeah,
it was a hard lesson to learn. I can assure you, Lauren.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Yeah, do you mind if I ask what you're doing
hard time for?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I got I went for a traumatic evenim right, and
never dealt drugs in my life and ended up feeling
drugs and got caught with a very large amount. I've
actually got fourteen years, right, but it's offense in my life,
and I've got to knock down to seven years three months.
So I actually served four years prison and three eight

(07:16):
months on parole, right called months of parole. I got released, Yeah,
a good behavior and yeah, I'm now a dental nurse.
I'm now doing extremely well life.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Yeah, Lauren, that is so wonderful, because it's very difficult
for anyone to turn a traumatic event around, you know, so.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Credit methadone in jail. I've never touched him.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Credit.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
So it doesn't sound as though you're a big fan.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
I'm off everything. I'm totally clean.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
What was the turning point, Lauren? Can I ask you
what was the turning point?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
The turnings going to change my life? The effects of
the ripple effects of my family and the trauma that
had crossed my family. It was awful, Lauren Well and
a half year old child, a fourteen year old daughter,
a sixteen year old daughter. It's absolutely traumatic, Lauren, how
to your You know, it's something that I didn't choose
to do with something that you know, sometimes things happen

(08:12):
in life that you know that some people can't take,
and you know, when they're when they're in their own
trauma themselves, they turned to the wrong avenue sometimes. Yeah, yeah,
you have the right people around me, the right support
at the time, and I fell into the wrong things
and the wrong people, and yeah, it happened so quickly.

(08:33):
That was within three months, three months I was in prison.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
Did you have a job in prison, Lauren, Like, was
there an actual industry at any time now.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It is in prison. So in New South Wales, in
that you if you're on romand, which I was for
seventeen months, which means you are not sentenced, you're waiting
to be sentenced.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
You cannot work waiting, how awful, And that.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
There's eighteen hours to spare in there, So you're eighteen
hours to see what you've done wrong and what you've did.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah, in yoursel for eighteen hours a day, are you?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, that's all right. You let out eight thirty in
the morning, You're look back in at midday one hour
for lunch, and then you let out again, and then
you look back in at court past three till eight
thirty in the morning again.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
And Lauren you so you so you think you become
more corrupt by surviving in the I.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Mean in there I learned a lot of corrupt things
that I'm not a corrupt person. That's not my life.
I don't live a crup life at all.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
No, No, But you had to survive while you were
in there.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's correct, and it was very awful. I hated every
minute of it because people I didn't know, I didn't love,
if that makes sense. Yeah, you know, I'm a very
family orientated person. You know, my mom comes from one
of eleven. I've got a huge family. And yeah, I
just yeah, it's not me at all. Now.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
You know what, Lauren, they must be very happy to
have you back. And I don't just mean that physically.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
They made that emotion.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know. I just put myself a fifty thousand dollars car.
I mean, if very good position. I'm doing to work
very well for myself. So I'm very proud of where
i am. Hard work, it will work, the hard work.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Laurence, thank you for sharing. That is amazing.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
We appreciate your honesty. Lauren, thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
This is the Fitsy and with with Kate Richie podcast.

Speaker 8 (10:16):
You were saying, Kay that you were getting fan mail
at one stage, but you keep expanding on So you
had a pen pal? No, I didn't have I didn't
have a pen pal, but I need well in the
old days.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
In the old days, like if people wrote fan mail,
I mean now they just did you just get a DM.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Don't you?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Hi? I took me hours to write it.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
So you get letters in your pigeonhole and you'd open
them and I'd take them home. And I'd send them
a handwritten letter and send a fan card.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
So you'd write something back.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
Yes, And then when I got too much fan mail,
I had a printed letter that I go on also
write a little note on and just say thanks so much.
I'm sending a printed letter because I wouldn't be able
to respond at all if I.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Did send you this.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So did you get some Did you get some really
scary stuff?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Kate?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Was there some?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Look, sometimes it was a bit on the like creepy side.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
I think my dad who worked at the police at
the Campletown Police station there in Queen Street, there was
a man that would often call the police station late
at night and ask for Dad and try and talk
to him on night shift about me. But that was
a follow up to also creepy letters I received. So
there was there's always that element. And you know what

(11:36):
I've kept, like a handful of really unique letters.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
Was one person or was it quite a few?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
In prison?

Speaker 4 (11:43):
You could keep going back on your prison thing.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
That's where the letters were from, not all of them.
You're just about fan mail.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I'm talking about. I'm giving you a foundation the topics
at prison.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Give us prison. Who's the who was the guy in prison.

Speaker 7 (11:55):
You know what when you go when you go to
that that you cheapen my and trivialize the broadest story
the story, Okay, the story.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
Is from prison.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
That I got a letter from a guy from prison
who said he was a big Home and Away fan
and that he was a bit older than me. And
this wasn't a creepy letter, and he just loved watching
the show and he feels as though he grew up
with me, and it was a bit of an older
brother and I'm not a bad guy and all of this,
and it was written on I probably still have it

(12:26):
somewhere on sheets of toilet paper with a pencil.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
That's beautiful, Like we've got our trading nicknames. Isn't it bizarre?

Speaker 4 (12:37):
The toilet paper here, you guys have really made it.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
Validates like you can. It paints a great picture, though,
doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
And the fact that that's what that person spent their
time doing that day. I'm going to write to Kate Richie,
and not to be creepy and not to ask for anything,
but just to say I have I feel connected to you.
And obviously he's got a lot of time on his
hands to be thinking about life. He watched Home and

(13:08):
Away growing up with his mum. He felt like a
big brother and rather than rather than not and people
don't do it enough. Now reach out and just say
something nice for the sake of it.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
Did you write back to him?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I think, yeah, well I would have.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's this could be a series two of How to
Make Gravy, which is coming out.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Really, Paul Kelly, Yeah, write that down.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, it's like, you know, it's the follow up journey
of the guy in prison writing letters to Kate Richie.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Did you know he call me Sally?

Speaker 8 (13:39):
You did?

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Didn't you?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Did?

Speaker 5 (13:41):
I you get one as well from people was he
writing to That's what concerns me.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Why are you making what was a relatively feel good
story into a competition. I mean I always got more
fan mail than Isla.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
What about Aida? Do you get more than her?

Speaker 2 (13:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I think.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Those Olivia Rodrigo tickets are not far away. I will
save you, Kate. That is a really weird laugh.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
It's so.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
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