February 23, 2025 • 10 mins
Billie Eilish has returned to Australia, so we're reminiscing on our incredible chat with the superstar last year!Billie chatted candidly about becoming a song writer as a child, her rise to fame, meeting the Royal family and if the world really is still blurry?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the fitz and Whipper podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Really Eirish, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Billie Eilish.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really forty million records sold, seven Grammy Awards.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm the voice of a generation. All right. Dude, joins
Fitzy and Billy eilishd mate, how are you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Welcome to the show? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We would just have you on Tiger.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was a really good champ. Fourth time or Strong? Yeah, wow,
the age of twenty already?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, I know you got three shows. It's going to
be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are you nervous?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, it's it's crazy that. I mean, you were
playing to five hundred people when you were sixteen, and
then a year later you're playing to like twenty thirty
thousand yea people critically, So I mean, this is this
must be cruising now, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's nuts. It's it's so sick like the show that
I get to do.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I mean, you know, I just did three in New
Zealand and like god, I just get up on the
stage and I'm just like I just have to like
every single show, it's never it never feels normal, and
every show I have to stand there for a second
and actually just look around the room and take it in.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And it's a crazy feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And the best thing about you like to converse with
the crowd as well, So you have cocis, you get people,
you talk.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Is that a big thing for you? It's got to
be that way to me.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was saying this yesterday, like I really don't, I
really don't like the idea of.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Doing a show, like doing a show for people.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I want I want them to be like with me
at the show, like doing the show with me, and
like the idea of of like I was saying, like I.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Mean at this point yesterday, and I'm just gonna make
it again because it sounded good that, Like I if
there was a show that I.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Did and I come off stage and I wasn't happy
about it for whatever the reason was.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's almost always.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That it felt like the crowd was there watching a
show and I was the show that they were watching
instead of wasn't integrated.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It was like it wasn't interactive.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Like that's what I want, is like the connection, and
like I want I want them to be doing as
much of the show as I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know what I mean, but if.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You stop down and look at it and you go, oh,
maybe that show wasn't as good as I'd hoped, then
what are you suggesting may have happened?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I think that it just is like I have these
these wants and needs for my own like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Like I want I want the crowd to be like.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know when it feels right?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, can I just I was at your first
coach performance and you had technical problems, yes, but see,
like we knew with lights and stuff, we understood, but
the way that you interacted with the crowd, I would
not have known. Because and then watching your documentary, the
world's a little blurry, I could see like you beforehand,
like I would have melt like I would have had
(02:51):
a melt.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Down, I know, just about to go out and everything.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Just shuts down.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So much build up.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But you then all of a sudden, as soon as
you hit that stage, Billy, is it just you switch on?
You have to, don't you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But then you go from that extreme like the show
that you're going to do tonight and some of the
other big performances, and then when you go home to
just the family and you know, mom and Dad are there,
it's like such a vast change, such a different world.
I mean, I know that you go back to the
basics of just being at home, but even when the
party's over and you're going through the idea for the
(03:27):
film clip in the backyard with your mummy's going and
I don't know if that's going to work, You're sitting
around the table in the backyard. Like to be able
to have those conversations, which it seems so simple and
so normal for any family, but then to be able
to take that to the world, it must be phenomenal
(03:48):
to see it develop and grow.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Telling you, dude is a it'd be hard.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
To make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's a real experience in my life.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Can you remember you started writing music at eleven? What
was your first song?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, okay, when I was a kid, I was writing
songs like a kid like I was constantly singing and
constantly making stuff up, but it wasn't like a song song,
So I wrote like little songs when I was a kid.
When I was like five is yeah, when I was
like five, I wrote a song with a friend on
my ukulele about like ukuleles.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
And then like grass.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
But my first my first song, I think The first
song that I wrote was a song called I think
it was either a song that I wrote called why
Not or a song that I wrote called Fingers Crossed.
Fingers was about I mean, it was like a lost
love song, but it was really about the fucking dead. Yeah,
(04:54):
because it was a I've said this before, but it
was a song exercise. My mom I'm actually was teaching
a songwriting class and one of the exercises was like,
go home and watch your favorite TV show or watch
a TV show or whatever, and anything that sticks out
to you that could be a lyric or could be
like a just anything interesting, just write it down. And
I was watching The Walking Dead because I was like
(05:15):
eleven and I like The Walking Dead, and I wrote
down a bunch of the things that they said in it,
and like the the episode titles and like, so I
wrote a song like about it. But it's very like
you wouldn't know that. It sounds like I'm just talking. Unfortunately, Yeah,
yes there is. We put it out on SoundCloud when
I was like thirteen.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I love the asta is important to you as well
because of the sound that you got from the buzzle
when you cross the rutter. I love watching that yes,
Have you picked up any new sounds in Australia since
you've been here this time, Dude.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I haven't been like like I used to be. Like
I used to go out and like walk around and
do stuff, and I haven't. I don't do that as
much because it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What about when you scan your food like it's self
check out, Yeah, that could do it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I would have to go to a store to do that,
but we did. When we were in New Zealand, we
went on a bike ride. Because I've been I've been
going out more for the last couple of years. I
really when I was on tour, I was just like
scared to step outside because I was just worried, Oh,
I'm not gonna be able to people are gonna which
is like I'm more chill about it now I'm more
comfortable in it. But so I have been doing more stuff.
(06:26):
But I've also just been busy. But we were in
New Zealand and we went on a bike ride and
there were these birds that like were making this crazy
fucking robotic boom sound and it was so sick and
we were moving so I couldn't record it. But I
was with Dora, my friend, and.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
We were like, we were like, what is that sound?
It's so amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Dora and she makes music too, she's on tour with me,
but she she she's all she's all about the like
using weird sounds too, and so we both heard the
birds and we.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Were like wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean it's a famous thing too here that our
crows and rare.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's good, but I mean jokes have been made that
they're quite off the sundlight.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
They're saying, dude, Actually I have I do have a
recording from the last time I was here, and it's
called Sydney Birds. Yeah, and it's from twenty nineteen, and
it was I was standing on the balcony in the
hotel room and I was just going, wow that I'm
(07:34):
telling you, dude, it sounds easy actually like that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Can I give you my dolphin?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Please?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's not bad.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I mean he did it. Your mouth isn't even opened up.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Trying to get yourself onto a billy off so I
can't do myself.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That is so kind of you, Dolphins of Sydney.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's pretty when I ask you, I know you you've
written a Gimes Bond song. You've wanted to ask you
for that. Congratulations. Queen's just passed away and we've been
dedicating Yah. I to it a bit over here and
obviously meant she meant a lot to us here in Australia,
you meet the royals, but protocol went out the door,
apparently when you met the royles.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Or I had it all ready to go.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I was like, I was like studying was supposed to be.
I was like ready to curtsey. I was ready to
not shake a hand. I was ready to not ask
questions and not be spoken unless.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm spoken, not speaking.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And I was so worried about it. I was like,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And they all walked in and they were like, what's up,
how are you? How's it going? And I was like,
oh my god. And it was funny.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I was with Phoebe waller Bridge and she was standing
there and Phineas and I were We were like.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Phoebe, do you know the protocols? And like do you
know that you have to curtsy?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
If she was like no, and we were like, oh okay, nobody,
like nobody prepped you on the protot and she's like no,
like we're just met, like are we supposed to do
something specific?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And we thought it was like this big, like it
had to be like these of.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Course, and they walk in and it was, which was great.
They were so they were just so nice and charming.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Twenty years all right, just before you got, well, just
before you go, My big question was like, the world's
a little Blurarry, is it a little more focused here?
I thought that was quite deep, that question. That was question,
but we got that focus for.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, I really think it is. Life feels really good
right now.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, you're happier than ever, you know, I'm happy than ever. Yeah,
We're so glad to have you in our country.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm stoked a beer, I'm very thrilled.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
We're so excited about Birds of Sydney. It's going to
be fantastic. Don't a bit more time, but it's very exciting.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Thank you, Thanks Billy, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Guys, you're the best. Are listening to the Fitzi and
Whipper Podcast
You're listening to the fitz and Whipper podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Really Eirish, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Billie Eilish.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really forty million records sold, seven Grammy Awards.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I'm the voice of a generation. All right. Dude, joins
Fitzy and Billy eilishd mate, how are you.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Welcome to the show? Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We would just have you on Tiger.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was a really good champ. Fourth time or Strong? Yeah, wow,
the age of twenty already?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, I know you got three shows. It's going to
be unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Are you nervous?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Like?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, it's it's crazy that. I mean, you were
playing to five hundred people when you were sixteen, and
then a year later you're playing to like twenty thirty
thousand yea people critically, So I mean, this is this
must be cruising now, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's nuts. It's it's so sick like the show that
I get to do.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I mean, you know, I just did three in New
Zealand and like god, I just get up on the
stage and I'm just like I just have to like
every single show, it's never it never feels normal, and
every show I have to stand there for a second
and actually just look around the room and take it in.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
And it's a crazy feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
And the best thing about you like to converse with
the crowd as well, So you have cocis, you get people,
you talk.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Is that a big thing for you? It's got to
be that way to me.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was saying this yesterday, like I really don't, I
really don't like the idea of.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Doing a show, like doing a show for people.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I want I want them to be like with me
at the show, like doing the show with me, and
like the idea of of like I was saying, like I.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Mean at this point yesterday, and I'm just gonna make
it again because it sounded good that, Like I if
there was a show that I.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Did and I come off stage and I wasn't happy
about it for whatever the reason was.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's almost always.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
That it felt like the crowd was there watching a
show and I was the show that they were watching
instead of wasn't integrated.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It was like it wasn't interactive.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Like that's what I want, is like the connection, and
like I want I want them to be doing as
much of the show as I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know what I mean, but if.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
You stop down and look at it and you go, oh,
maybe that show wasn't as good as I'd hoped, then
what are you suggesting may have happened?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I think that it just is like I have these
these wants and needs for my own like.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Like I want I want the crowd to be like.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know when it feels right?
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, can I just I was at your first
coach performance and you had technical problems, yes, but see,
like we knew with lights and stuff, we understood, but
the way that you interacted with the crowd, I would
not have known. Because and then watching your documentary, the
world's a little blurry, I could see like you beforehand,
like I would have melt like I would have had
(02:51):
a melt.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Down, I know, just about to go out and everything.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Just shuts down.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So much build up.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But you then all of a sudden, as soon as
you hit that stage, Billy, is it just you switch on?
You have to, don't you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
But then you go from that extreme like the show
that you're going to do tonight and some of the
other big performances, and then when you go home to
just the family and you know, mom and Dad are there,
it's like such a vast change, such a different world.
I mean, I know that you go back to the
basics of just being at home, but even when the
party's over and you're going through the idea for the
(03:27):
film clip in the backyard with your mummy's going and
I don't know if that's going to work, You're sitting
around the table in the backyard. Like to be able
to have those conversations, which it seems so simple and
so normal for any family, but then to be able
to take that to the world, it must be phenomenal
(03:48):
to see it develop and grow.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Telling you, dude is a it'd be hard.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
To make sense.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's a real experience in my life.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Can you remember you started writing music at eleven? What
was your first song?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, okay, when I was a kid, I was writing
songs like a kid like I was constantly singing and
constantly making stuff up, but it wasn't like a song song,
So I wrote like little songs when I was a kid.
When I was like five is yeah, when I was
like five, I wrote a song with a friend on
my ukulele about like ukuleles.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
And then like grass.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
But my first my first song, I think The first
song that I wrote was a song called I think
it was either a song that I wrote called why
Not or a song that I wrote called Fingers Crossed.
Fingers was about I mean, it was like a lost
love song, but it was really about the fucking dead. Yeah,
(04:54):
because it was a I've said this before, but it
was a song exercise. My mom I'm actually was teaching
a songwriting class and one of the exercises was like,
go home and watch your favorite TV show or watch
a TV show or whatever, and anything that sticks out
to you that could be a lyric or could be
like a just anything interesting, just write it down. And
I was watching The Walking Dead because I was like
(05:15):
eleven and I like The Walking Dead, and I wrote
down a bunch of the things that they said in it,
and like the the episode titles and like, so I
wrote a song like about it. But it's very like
you wouldn't know that. It sounds like I'm just talking. Unfortunately, Yeah,
yes there is. We put it out on SoundCloud when
I was like thirteen.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I love the asta is important to you as well
because of the sound that you got from the buzzle
when you cross the rutter. I love watching that yes,
Have you picked up any new sounds in Australia since
you've been here this time, Dude.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I haven't been like like I used to be. Like
I used to go out and like walk around and
do stuff, and I haven't. I don't do that as
much because it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What about when you scan your food like it's self
check out, Yeah, that could do it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I would have to go to a store to do that,
but we did. When we were in New Zealand, we
went on a bike ride. Because I've been I've been
going out more for the last couple of years. I
really when I was on tour, I was just like
scared to step outside because I was just worried, Oh,
I'm not gonna be able to people are gonna which
is like I'm more chill about it now I'm more
comfortable in it. But so I have been doing more stuff.
(06:26):
But I've also just been busy. But we were in
New Zealand and we went on a bike ride and
there were these birds that like were making this crazy
fucking robotic boom sound and it was so sick and
we were moving so I couldn't record it. But I
was with Dora, my friend, and.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
We were like, we were like, what is that sound?
It's so amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Dora and she makes music too, she's on tour with me,
but she she she's all she's all about the like
using weird sounds too, and so we both heard the
birds and we.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Were like wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait wait.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean it's a famous thing too here that our
crows and rare.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's good, but I mean jokes have been made that
they're quite off the sundlight.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
They're saying, dude, Actually I have I do have a
recording from the last time I was here, and it's
called Sydney Birds. Yeah, and it's from twenty nineteen, and
it was I was standing on the balcony in the
hotel room and I was just going, wow that I'm
(07:34):
telling you, dude, it sounds easy actually like that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Can I give you my dolphin?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Please?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's not bad.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I mean he did it. Your mouth isn't even opened up.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Trying to get yourself onto a billy off so I
can't do myself.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That is so kind of you, Dolphins of Sydney.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's pretty when I ask you, I know you you've
written a Gimes Bond song. You've wanted to ask you
for that. Congratulations. Queen's just passed away and we've been
dedicating Yah. I to it a bit over here and
obviously meant she meant a lot to us here in Australia,
you meet the royals, but protocol went out the door,
apparently when you met the royles.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Or I had it all ready to go.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I was like, I was like studying was supposed to be.
I was like ready to curtsey. I was ready to
not shake a hand. I was ready to not ask
questions and not be spoken unless.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I'm spoken, not speaking.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And I was so worried about it. I was like,
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And they all walked in and they were like, what's up,
how are you? How's it going? And I was like,
oh my god. And it was funny.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I was with Phoebe waller Bridge and she was standing
there and Phineas and I were We were like.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Phoebe, do you know the protocols? And like do you
know that you have to curtsy?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
If she was like no, and we were like, oh okay, nobody,
like nobody prepped you on the protot and she's like no,
like we're just met, like are we supposed to do
something specific?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And we thought it was like this big, like it
had to be like these of.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Course, and they walk in and it was, which was great.
They were so they were just so nice and charming.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Twenty years all right, just before you got, well, just
before you go, My big question was like, the world's
a little Blurarry, is it a little more focused here?
I thought that was quite deep, that question. That was question,
but we got that focus for.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, I really think it is. Life feels really good
right now.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, you're happier than ever, you know, I'm happy than ever. Yeah,
We're so glad to have you in our country.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
I'm stoked a beer, I'm very thrilled.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
We're so excited about Birds of Sydney. It's going to
be fantastic. Don't a bit more time, but it's very exciting.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Thank you, Thanks Billy, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Guys, you're the best. Are listening to the Fitzi and
Whipper Podcast
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