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Speaker 2 (00:24):
It is Wednesday, hump Day. Hump Day now, don't okay,
hump day. It's August twenty first, twenty twenty four. A
lot of information to get into today. You know, the
side show with a Democratic National Convention, the chaos behind
it is perhaps the story, not not just the convention,
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but the chaos behind and inside the political machine, and
really all the politics is aside show, I believe, But
we have to address it nonetheless because where is the
future of our country going? And I really, truly, honestly
believe that we are really a captured operation and on
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the verge of being an operation not just captured, but
subjugated to the communist agenda. And that's what they're That's
what the really from the twenty sixteen twenty fifteen Escalator ride,
down the attacks against President Donald Trump to the selection
of Tim Walls, all of this and even I'm going
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Speaker 1 (01:32):
All of this is part of a takeover of our government.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
They want us dead, they want President Trump out of
the way, dead, whatever, and they want to be in power.
They cannot afford to lose power. But in the process
of presenting that the Democratic National Convention, what a mess
that is. We'll be talking a little bit about that,
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we're just gonna be commenting on some current events, sir.
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How are you today?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Landon. How are you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I am doing well, Thanks for asking me to ride shotgun.
I don't know much about much, but I definitely have
a critical eye and hopefully I can criticize things well
with you today.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Well, you know what, you and I and we can
just talk because you and I were talking earlier. You
know about just about the the environment of the current political,
social environment of things. And I look everyone out there
listening and viewing this, I believe they're concerned about the
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immediate future. And sadly we have to really bring politics
into the mix because politics, it's downstream of culture, but
it's also the driver of current actions, right, It's also
drives what's going on. So we have a decision as
a country to make in November as to whether we
are going to And this is my view, and correct
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me if if your view is something different. My view
is if we elect or if the people elect or
select and cheat put in Harris, if in fact she
turns out to be the nominee, which you know it's
not over yet, her and Waltz would absolutely destroy this country,
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take it and take it to venez A on the
levels as opposed to President Trump, who's not perfect by
any stretch of the imagination, well at least by some time.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, So it's it's very clear. And I've spent a
lot of time overseas and coming back and forth to
the US, and I've kind of seen how the country
has ebbed and flowed, both from the inside and from
the outside. And what I see is that within the
United States we tend to think that our parties are
so different, but from the outside, when people look at
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the country, they see that it's it's like cousins in
a family. So they see it more clearly overseas that
it's a little bit of two wings of the same bird.
And then but when you're in it and trapped within
the system, you can see those two wings a little
more clearly, and it does look like the bird is
starting to fall off the communist left side. It's swaying left,
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and with that is bringing the right wing with it,
and it's starting to kind of move towards center. So
there's this kind of Overton window concept and things that
ten years ago, you know, people that call them sales
Republicans would never think of endorsing, are now just kind
of commonplace within the Republican Party, like Republicans talking about
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being pro abortion. I mean, that's what, right, since when
is that? So it speaks to kind of maybe the
societal level endorsement. And I'm sorry I kind of talked
bluntly about these things, but the societal endorsement of paganism
as cultural values may be turning away from the Bible.
(09:39):
And when you see that, you start going into the
world of hedonism. I'm my own god, I have no
accountability to everybody else, all that kind of stuff. Well,
then you start swaying away from maybe where we were
thirty forty years ago even. And so I've seen that,
just ebbing and flowing across the ocean, watching the country change.
I've talked it's missionary friends of mine who have been
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gone for seven eight years. They came back and they
don't even recognize the country. That's pretty drastic, and so
that's just kind of my perspective.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, I think it's absolutely right on the money. And
you know, I would it's interesting when you said you
have friends that would come back after an absence and
they don't recognize a country. I think sometimes we as
a population, we live here, we work every day, we
do do ours thing every day and we don't see
that that change. Although it's rapid relative to history, it's
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gradual in terms of our lives, So if that makes sense. So, yeah,
you leave for a while, you come back and it's like, wow,
what happened?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, things like you know, I remember coming back from
overseas and logging into Netflix for the first time. Yeah,
and just the just the movies that show up in
the homepage of Netflix. Yes, the level of just societal
auchery and lack of moral kind of standards. Yes, it's
(11:07):
it's weird actually that we've just vacated moral standards in
the public sphere.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Yes, yes, And you know I had I wasn't joking
about this, but I was. It's hard to really comprehend that.
The DNC they've got these mobile abortion or Infanta side
vans and they're offering that and that service as well
as vasectomies for men, and we're told that, hey, all
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the appointments on these vans are filled. You know, I mean,
what does that say about the people not just on
the left, but the people in America in general?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean that's our country. If that, if that
is the norm, the normal condition. If that's the Bell
curve condition of America, then our country supports the killing
of children. Yes, a civilization that does not protect the
vulnerable is not a civilization that can continue to exist.
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So I would say that that kind of thing looks
like an early indicator of a civilization that's crumbling. A
civilization that's willing to kill its own children to stop
reproducing is a country. I mean, I studied anthropology in
college because I couldn't come up with anything better to do.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Did do you want to tell people where you went
to college or leave that up?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Let's just say, yeah, it was an Ivy League place
where I failed out of pre med and so I
had to finish by doing anthropology. So but, but one
of the core tenets of anthropological study is reproductive fitness.
So understanding that humanity that thrives has high reproductive fitness,
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and societies that crumble and disappear are those who can't reproduce.
So we are intentionally as a society going down a
path of killing off our progeny or making it impossible
to reproduce, means that we are leading to our own
destruction as a civilization. To me, that's a macro level concern. Right,
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that is just evident.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So how does that fit in? Again?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
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They do great work, whatever you can do, because they're
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all about the children.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
They're all about the most vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And I would not put I mean between save them
and shadow ups. I think, man, they are fighting the
good fight every day and they're actually saving children and
God bless them. So But anyway, so the replacement you know,
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you talk about the lack of reproduction of really the
what I call it Western Europeans document what what's a
You're smart than I am. So what's a correct term
for that.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
In more regard?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Well, okay, so for example, people talk about white replacement
theory as oh, that's a conspiracy theory. But the average
American we're not reproducing right at the way we should be.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Right well, I mean the whole of Western civilization and
plus China who tried to do it as well for
quite some time and realized that that wasn't going to last.
And Japan, for that matter, who's baby boomer population, the
curves inverted right sore, they're just about to collapse. So
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it's actually a global issue outside of maybe parts of
Africa and South America where people are just living, living life,
not trying to control things.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Well, and folks, you might think this is kind of
you know, really not relevant or even boring, but when
you look at you know, back fifty or seventy years ago,
the average American family having what was it, two point
two and a half kids, and you know.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Well at the turn of the century after, you know,
the early nineteen hundred's, the average American family had seven children.
Seven seven children. Today, you know, if you if you
have three, people look at you cross eyed. Yeah, you know,
it's a bit bizarre. So things have changed very rapidly
in this past hundred years.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I had a friend who passed away, sadly, Pat Campbell.
The folks he probably might know the name or remember him.
He was with Catholic Family Radio and then he went
to he went, he went on. He was out in Tulsa.
He had eleven children. He was a talk show host,
of great talk shows, good for pass away from brain.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Cancer, but eleven children.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Amen. Yeah, I'll tell you what children are blessing.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
But see.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Okay, So the really kind of the crux of today's
program is is really the takedown of the United States
by the communists. So the left or the communist element
wouldn't want that reproduction. They don't want us to reproduce, right.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Correct, Okay, absolutely right. And the dripping hypocrisy of things
like a couple of nights ago when Biden was speaking
about how, oh you know, more children that have gunshots
in the US than anything. We need to take away
everybody's guns. But never mind that guns don't kill people,
but people kill people. And meanwhile, they've got abortion vans
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out front killing babies. In fact, the thing that kills
more babies and children than anything in the United States
is the murder of children in the womb. Correct, That
statistically is where the majority of the children in this
country dies. So there's just there's a talking out of
both sides of your mouth. Yeah, thing that's been going
on quite rampantly. I'd say specifically since Obama. I noticed
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it just in my lifetime that I was like, wait,
he just said exactly the opposite thing, and everybody's just
nodding like this. It's bizarre. It's like they're in a trance.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Wow. Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
And the way I look at this as well, if
you're going to destroy a country, you've got to destroys
you get borders, language, and culture, and really to do
that is to attack the nuclear family as well. But
that brings me to the border, you know. So we're
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letting in. I think the number, the true number just
under Biden and Harris, don't forget Harris, is north of
twenty million. Some people will say, well, no, not really,
it's less. Now, it's equal to the population of forty
seven states that we that they've let in. So is that,
(18:04):
in your view, is that part of the takedown of
our country? And is that replacing the nineteen fifty esque family?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, well, the nineteen fifty esque family was grounded in
a fundamentally bublic, bubblic Biblical ethos and framework of existence.
The attack of the anti of the anti Christ forces
in this in this world is really to destroy the
created order. So the created order has many different facets.
(18:36):
Reproduction for thrival is one of them, borders is one
of them. So the Lord created national borders. Okay, Satan
pursues the Tower of Babel, all right, So that's where
our understanding of biblical history comes in. And there's the
move today is to recreate the Tower of Babel, and
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to have the Tower in place and all of humanity
unified against Christ, you have to do away with borders.
So that's it's a key component of destroying the created
order as instituted by the Lord. And you're either on
one side or the other in this, In this equation,
you can't really have.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Both well stated. So at the really, if if you
at the high highest level view of things, or if
you really want to get to the root of the issue,
it is a demonic play against the entire globy, the
entire world, This whole, this whole agenda is demonic, and
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this being implemented by the minions of Satan.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, it's the narrative within which we find ourselves, right,
and the sleepness of the Church as the only force
that can stand up and push back the darkness is
probably the most tragic state of our society, a part
from everything else, you know, and Christ tells us that
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we're not actually even supposed to judge those outside the church.
We're supposed to judge within the church and call the
church to right living and to holiness and to be
awake for the fight within which we were called as
the hands and feet of Jesus. When we start spending
all of our time judging people who are different from
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us outside the church, well, they don't have the Holy Spirit,
they don't know the Lord. What do we How can
you blame them for producing their or pursuing their own
hedonistic desires. We're the same way, but God. But God
gave us the Holy Spirit, so we have eyes to see,
in ears to hear a different perspective on the created order,
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which is the right living of the Lord. He gave
Moses the two tablets to help us understand not that
there's only one way to live, but that there's a
right way to live, because He created us to fit
within that right world.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Right Okay, So, okay, if I'm hearing you correctly, and
folks to me, this is important because this is really
this strikes up the root of the issue. We are
to live within the confines of the biblical Church.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
If you wish to pursue human flourishing? Okay, Okay, So
that's so. For example, homosexuality, Yes, if someone has homosexual
desires and they pursue a homosexual lifestyle, I don't judge
the fact that they pursue their desires, but I have
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a benchmark by which I can share the good news
with them that there is an appropriate way to live
that the Lord has told us will lead to their
human flourishing. And the statistics are on my side because
if you are living a homosexual lifestyle, by definition, you
can't reproduce, so anthropologically, you're putting yourself out of existence.
(22:04):
It's against the created order. It's not this isn't right,
not hard, and it's not about being ugly, and it's
not about being judgmental. It's about being factual correct. So
it's just a fact, like there's a better way to live,
and I can share that with you. You can still choose
your hedonistic desires. That's your choice. I'm not going to
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judge you for your choices because you obviously don't know
the Lord. But the problem is when people call themselves Christian,
when they say they have the Holy Spirit, and then
they profess living in habitual sin, those two things are
against each other and that's what we call apostasy. So
the Church finds itself in a state of apostasy in
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many parts of this country because it professes Christ and
biblical right living, but then it endorses habitual sin. Those
two things cannot live together. And that's why what Bible
calls a great falling away right now now, where people
are falling away from the truth, like you've got on
the screen here, truth right, Truth through Jesus is the truth. Right.
(23:08):
So it's not anyways, I'm kind of pontification. That's just
where my mind goes.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It's it's accurate, and especially when you talk about the
perversions of human sexuality, I think we have to address that,
and you know that comes with that comes even today
the talk of monkey pox. Oh, I can't say that
the impos because monkey box is racist. I still haven't
(23:35):
figured that one out. But okay, which is generally or
at least it was a sexually transmitted disease among the
homosexual communities. So but again, all of these can be
traced back to what we should be doing.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But what we're not.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Doing within the church, I guess, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
And the thing is when we don't stand true, truthfully
against things that are obviously lies. We normalize our own involvement,
our own complicity, oh with societal denigration. So okay, So
the other day I saw this horrible commercial on TV
and it was a medical commercial about HIV prevention or something. Yes, well,
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every single person in that commercial that I can remember
was homosexual. So the drug company is marketing the anti
HIV medication directly to the LGBT community. There must be
a reason that they're doing this. There must be statistics,
because I used to work in healthcare research and I'll
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tell you you don't do anything without statistics. So if
there are marketing their product to a specific demographic, is
because they have the evidence that that demographic is what
would uptake the product. So you see that, you see
that commercial on TV, and then you hear a politician
(25:07):
say there's no connection between homosexuality and HIV. Well, that's
just living in a world of contradiction, right, You're just
cognitive dissonance rules the day in that environment. So all
we have to do is just say, well, actually we
err on the side of truth.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And Okay, I get that.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, I guess I don't know it's and we're living
in a really weird society right now where people will
talk out of both sides of the mouths, and people
see that all over the world. They see Americans. They're
losing trust in America, Oh yes, because America doesn't hold
true to its convictions, doesn't hold true to its word.
(25:51):
And when you start going on that slippery slope, you
lose friends, you lose allies, you lose all that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
So you lose respect, credibility, which you know, for for
all the things that President Trump had instilled, I think
in his four years in the Oval office, I think
we had we had some level of respect that we
don't now, right, Yeah, some level of standing behind her
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friends or beside her friends. We don't have that now, okay. Yeah,
And speaking of that, you know, it's interesting how all
of this plays out. We've got a couple of video
clips here, and then we're beginning to something I think, folks,
that you're really going to be interested in because we
you know, look, I mean, it's no secret we are
(26:44):
an investigat agency as is Saved Them Landing investigator, as
well as an intellectual. I'm telling you he's really one
great investigator, as is the members of Shatter ops as well.
But I'm gonna show you this. You talk about the
(27:05):
hipocrisy and about the all things like gas lighting and such.
I don't know how many people saw this. When President
Trump visited Howell, Michigan. This is uh, let me see here.
This is I'm gonna have to read that one. Okay, Well,
(27:30):
i'll tell you what it's in the show notes. President
Trump went to Howell, Michigan and really schooled a broadcaster
or a reporter there because you know he was there
and howl Michigan on the stop campaign stop, and the
reporter asked, well, what are you doing here? This is
(27:51):
from Colin Ruck from his ex feed. Crowd cracks up
after Trump shuts up race baiting reporter who tried linking
him to white supremacy and all of these phrases. I
think white supremacy and these are all keywords that are
designed again to take down the US in the larger scale.
(28:11):
So anyway, the reporter Kamala's campaign attack you for being
in this town because associated with white supremacy, and President
Trump said it was here in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
The reporter responded immediately Biden, that.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Was a mic drop moment for President Trump thank you
everyone as he walked away. And you can watch that
on Colin Rugg's X feed. So yeah, I guess I
wouldn't really play well because of the audio, but it's
different if you watch it on your own device. Okay,
and speaking of hypocrisy, speaking of different things, I'm gonna
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show you this. This is a DNC now now, folks, look,
we get the fact that it's it's really kind of
a television show. We're living in this matrix of illusion
and delusion. But I thought this was pretty good in
terms of showing calling out the hypocrisy of the left
(29:08):
in this particular. It's it's actually a kind of a
long segment. But stick with this and watch this and
consider the hypocrisy which we are faced with in this country.
And it's not just a leftist problem, although that's the
majority of it, but some on the right as well.
If you haven't seen it as well, worth your time.
(29:29):
But stick with me on this because this is well,
I'll say, it's self explanatory. Go ahead, and this is
cut to the DNC is more secure than the America's border, folks.
I thought this was great.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Here is hey, Steve Cortez here on the West side
of Chicago Democratic National Convention at United Center. The Democrats,
of course, want open borders and want an endless stream
of illegal migrants pouring into the United States. This is
my new acquaintance, Edwin.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Say hello, Edwin is from Venezuela, and we're going.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
To take Edwin into the DNC so that you can
meet the Democrats who want open borders and should meet
his new friends speakers and learn about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So Edwin, let's let's head in, shall we.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
This is Edwin from Venezuela migrant invited in by the
Democrat Party.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
You like to come into the.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Democratic vest.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah, you have to go to Jackson.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Ye what you mean?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
He needs credentials and permission to come in past the wall.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It's like a border wall away.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, you have to have ID credentials come to.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
The United States, to the United States. Okay, but you're
coming to Democratics.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You believe in security, you believe in securing.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
A boundary Edwin, Edwin can't come in, That's all I know.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I commend you on on.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
On guarding this border. You're doing it very effectively, folks.
Morning for Edward. Kevin Heaven is from Venezuela r BRO.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
So we try to get van into the convention to
a mic and from Venezuela on.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
An organization, just an American and he's in a microp
Venezuela wanted to get into the convention.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
We figured that they would love.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
To have a Microprenezuela to come in. They said, we're
going to get creditionals.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
So we're going to get the creditionals. D as they
move on, Well, go on the count of us.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
So you have to there's a process in the application
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Okay on my own for full soles right off, ohone
years about.
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Yeah, just to be clear, we have been ejected from
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permitted to be here.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
We don't have permission, we didn't go through the application process.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
It seems like the United States would use similar rules
of across the US border. DNC doesn't believe in that,
but they didn't believe in it for their own convention.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Okay, you can cut this right here.
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dot Org and well Land and I you know, again,
we talked before the before the show, and we were
talking about a number of different things, but specifically you're here.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
For a reason.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Uh. The reason is, of course you're years and shadow
ops the investigators. There tremendous investigative abilities, and we have
a need for the investigation. We're looking at the takeover
of our country. And this brings me to one of
the we have so many unanswered questions from JFK onward.
(36:04):
I mean, you name them, their hinge moment events that
have a lot of questions about them. So without getting
into granular level of details, we've been tasked with looking
into certain inconsistencies with respect to what happened on July thirteenth. Yeah,
(36:28):
I said it. I said it, and I'm okay with
saying it. And people are beginning to realize how the
extent of the lies by our government, and that's what
you're doing here as well. I mean there's some other things,
but that's the focus of yours. Can we talk about
(36:50):
that and any introductory thoughts about what happened on July
thirteenth in general, whatever you think, And then you know,
the failures the again the investigative deep dive into Thomas
Crooks himself. If we can just talk sure you know
(37:12):
about that, Go ahead, sure, yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I mean you and I have had a we've had
some coffee and omelets and just kind of chattered about this.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
And you had the omelet.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I did have the omelet. It was a good omelet.
And oh, by the way, I endorse olive oil on everything.
I love olive oil.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
I just got into that to tell you what, man,
And this is a total sidebar, but you know, everywhere
you look in the world where you get these really
healthy diets, like the Mediterranean and Italy and Greece and whatever,
they use olive oil. And they you know, they dip
raw olive oil. They'll just dip all their stuff in there.
And we as a family use olive oil for everything.
(37:48):
It's we love it.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
But yeah, we started doing that too. And it's kind
of making my mouth water right now thinking about it.
The bread in there with Oh yeah, man, okay.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
And while we're talking about sponsors, I got I was
thinking when you were saying earlier, I've got to share this.
So one of my favorite T shirts of all time
was a T shirt my sister bought me and it's
a Chuck Norris T shirt and it was a red
T shirt with black writing, and it said, after a
long night of partying, some people throw up, but Chuck
Norris throws down. It's a picture of Chuck Norris whether
(38:19):
he's punching the shirt. It's great. Anyways, this good memories,
good memories. So yeah, anyways, Yeah, I so like when
we were getting the meal and talking through just kind
of what's what's some of the weird stuff here, and
and I just I just remember talking about how there's
just some of that stuff that just doesn't make sense,
(38:40):
you know, and to me as a when you're when
you're investigating cases and you first start with you go
to first principles, you know a little bit of Aukham's razor,
you know, you know, the most obvious thing is most
likely the explanation.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
But but that's not.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Always true because that that closes the door on con spiracy,
and the conspiracy is a real word. So when people
conspire together to achieve something, then Aukham's razor actually isn't
applicable because forces have conspired and they have leveraged a
(39:17):
situation where the most obvious solution should be an obvious solution.
But because of conspiracy people conspiring together to achieve an end,
it just it throws Oukham's razor out the window. And
I think we might be sitting on that kind of
situation because there are too many weird situations in this one.
For example, if I'm if I'm a teenager and I
(39:46):
graduate school and I'm starting an entry level job somewhere,
and let's say I have a hobby, yeah, okay, And
let's say that that hobby was shooting arrows, okay, and I,
you know, maybe I'm not the world's best arrow shooter,
but I go to an archery range and you know,
I learned how to shoot an arrow. It's near impossible
(40:11):
that I, as we saw with the DNC video, that
I could just end up in the third row of
the DNC and shoot arrows at the people in the stage.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
That's a good yes, yep, yep, It's.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Near impossible for two reasons. Number one, I'm not that
skilled and knowledgeable. I'm a kid, yep, So I would
not have the life skill or training to achieve such
a mission on first principles right. And number two, anybody
who caught wind of me carrying a bow and arrow
(40:45):
into the DNC would probably stop me. Maybe that's a
good question. Maybe tackle me. I don't know, like something
like something would happen, They would throw it off. There
are too many weird questions about the July thirteenth event
that it's not making sense that that whole loan shooter narrative,
(41:10):
which we kind of always get told about every situation. See,
that's the other thing when you get when you get
certain types of narratives one hundred percent of the time, Yeah,
that's propaganda, thank you. Okay, So because it's controlled narrative,
(41:33):
that's right. Statistically, narratives in the natural ebb and flow
of human existence should vary. So, for example, in the
narratives around the twenty twenty election, right when late in
(41:53):
the game, one hundred percent of votes in a certain
county comes back for one candidate, YEP, that is not
statistically probable or possible because the county or the state
is breaking at a statistical percentage other than one hundred Yes,
one hundred percent is not statistically probable.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
So I'm looking at a situation of July thirteenth, and
I'm saying it's not statistically probable that a guy who,
for all intents and purposes seems to be kind of
like a normal, kind of academically inclined, just kind of
(42:39):
geeky kind of kid, you know, like we've all come
from different stock and in different directions, doesn't He's not
the guy who grew up training to be a swat operator,
you know, and defy detection and all this. And what
we see in July thirteenth is that he didn't even
(43:03):
try to hide.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yes, the new videos that have come out with that
show him walking some ninety minutes before walking the perimeter
vendors row and then that video with him obviously standing
or walking with the with an AR fifteen slung over
his shoulder, if that I.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
Mean yeah, And I'm not convinced on that one, by
the way, because shadows being what they are, the human
eye will see patterns that it wants to see. Just
so you know, my personal feedback on that one, I'm
not sold that that's actually a rifle. It could very
well be shadowing that looks like what we would think
was a rifle. So it's hard to source that one.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
And that's important. I don't mean interrupt, but it's important
for people to understand this is a very high bar.
So when you go out to a specific scene or
you analyze a piece of evidence, you go one hundred percent. Look,
we've got to be one hundred percent sure of what
we're looking at. And so I appreciate that in what
you do, and that's I start to be that way
(44:10):
as well. You know, Hey, even though we're ninety percent
sure we're seeing this, this is an image of this
young man with a rifle. It could very well be
something completely different if it's not even if it's not
an alter or whatever.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
So we have to take all of that no account.
And you have a very high bar of nasery standards. Yeah,
and what we do have one hundred percent confidence in
is his level of confidence. Yes, in that situation was uncanny.
So he did not reflect someone who was trying to
(44:54):
sneak or snoop or execute well trained skill you know,
come in through an undetected method or anything. He just
rocked up on the top of that building. And I
mean you see the videos, like all the grandmas, they're like, hey,
look this guy on the roof, and which strangely when
(45:15):
they all point to him on the roof. All the
cops go around the other side of the building, which
is really weird. I don't know what they were doing,
but they're like, hey, look that guy, the guy who's
like walking and crawling, he's up there.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
And this this guy had an undue level of confidence.
So either he's extremely naive and out of his mind,
maybe that's possible, But then you have to piece that
together with the level of skill required to execute the mission.
They don't match it, don't go. The pieces of the
(45:48):
puzzle don't connect. So you then have to ask yourself, well,
if the pieces of the puzzle don't connect, then there
must be a gap piece, and that gap piece is
what connects the two. And the gap piece I think
is worth investigating because to enable that level of confidence, yes,
(46:09):
and couple it with the level of haphazard skill, not
well executed skill, there had to be something where he
knew in some way my estimation that it was gonna
be okay, that someone has his back maybe basically okay, yeah,
that he had he had a level of confidence with
(46:30):
which have been communicated to him, true or not, that
he could just go do whatever he was doing and
he didn't have to be super paranoid or worried or
anything because and because you don't see that in him
at all. So that's just in the videos I've seen online,
which I think everybody's seen.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, I mean this is all open source, ye, what
we're referencing.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
And so it's just these are the things that occurred
to me on that. There's one other thing, maybe it's
something people can think about little bit is in our
work with shutter ops. Yes, we do enter the world
of things like the occult.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up because you did
blow my mind with some stuff over the last couple
of days.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
But continue, Well, it's just it's a line of thinking
that I think if you pursue it, it just helps
you expand your scenarios and possibilities of probable action, probable futures.
What we know about working with cases regarding the occult
and their overlap with some rogue entities in different institutions whatever,
(47:41):
is that there is an active programming, There is an
active breaking of people's psyches and then the manipulation of them.
So this is all carryover stuff from the nineteen forties
nineteen fifties. People hear things like mk ultra and whatever.
But the point is is that people have learned how
(48:04):
to manipulate and control other people through brainwashing techniques and
all that. It's very intentional. When I looked at some
of the videos of him, it just it occurred to
me that the behaviors reflected those kinds of things that
we've seen in other scenarios where someone was controlled by
(48:25):
another person or another kind of training entity or whatever,
where it's almost like they're acting like a robot. They're
just executing a pre defined plan. They're just out doing
And sometimes you'll talk to these guys after an investigation,
they don't even remember what happened.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
And now we've seen this before.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Specifically, I'm gonna cite sir hands or hand with the
rfk assassination. There's like a whole lot wrong with that
whole scenario where folks, if you go to the research,
there is someone who was really into the research on that, Yeah,
there's this I didn't I didn't do anything, or this
(49:06):
loss of memory or yeah, exactly what you're described.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Right, right, And and people and whether it's from your
cult or whatever, who have who have this dissociative identity disorder,
especially when it's been intentionally induced and controlled. They do
have things like missing time, and when they switch personalities,
they don't behave in the same way that their normal
personality would. So anyways, as I was looking at some
(49:31):
of those videos, as I was looking at the dude,
and I was going, he's either way too confident in
what he's doing, or he's completely oblivious to what's happening
or something. But there it discredits the lone wolf. He
just rocked up, had a passion for rifles and hated,
you know, mister President Trump, and just wanted to go
(49:51):
shoot him. That is a low probability outlier conclusion, which
unfortunately is the macro level narrative.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
Well stated, you're right, and Dan Bongino had this is
not a new, necessarily new clip, but and this clip
is in its totalities, I think it's over ten minutes long,
but the first couple of minutes is interesting because he
asked the question, who was Thomas Matthew Crooks? And folks
(50:22):
understand this, there's so much information you've seen. I've seen
so much information being peddled out there that is deliberate
misinformation or in some cases, some well intentioned people who
are trying to make sense of this, but have it wrong. Okay,
So and again I'm not going to disparage anyone if
(50:43):
they have it wrong, if they're well intentioned. But to
those who are playing the deliberate misinformation, that's something different.
We'll play about two minutes because our time is short.
Play about two minutes if you don't mind Eric detect.
This is cut seven. Who was Thomas Thomas Matthew Crooks? Really,
this is Dan Bongino from a couple of days ago.
Speaker 6 (51:05):
You're suggesting to me with a straight face that a
twenty year old kid, who a you're claiming has no
connections to any organized group, government entity, or anything like that,
manage somehow to wipe any single footprint, fingerprint or digital
DNA himself off the internet, off the online digital footprint trail,
(51:28):
and nobody can find anything anywhere.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
And you believe that.
Speaker 6 (51:32):
If you do, there's a bridge in Palm City near
my crib. I'm selling it on the super cheap right now, folks,
you believe that?
Speaker 1 (51:44):
Wait, let me go to the Rumble, the radio show
up date this ahead and on.
Speaker 6 (51:51):
The podcast Rumbo Folks in the chat, does anybody believe this?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Some of you may have taken us polder in the podcast,
but vote again. You vote like Democrats early often.
Speaker 6 (52:06):
You believe that.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
This twenty year old kid. Did you see the picture
of his kid?
Speaker 3 (52:13):
You're telling me this guy.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Is so sophisticated.
Speaker 6 (52:17):
That he managed to wipe himself clean from the Internet
and was working with absolutely no one and just coincidentally,
Representative Clay Higgins. Good guy wanted to go and see
the body, the body of Crooks the assassin that day
because he did assassinate someone, Corey comparator and look at this.
(52:43):
The body was apparently cremated and released to the family
by the FBI. Nobody even knew his body was gone,
according to Kylie Jane Kramer, until August fifth, including the
Butler Butler County Coroner, and Butler County law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Let's stop it right there, folks. You can watch the
entire clip. In fact, we watch the entire episode. It's
worth it. That kind of gives you a little bit
of insight as to what Linon was talking about and
being a part of this investigation. Okay, not going to
speak out of school necessarily, but we're going to show
(53:20):
you one thing, and it's the first time I believe
it's been shown anywhere in any venue. I could be wrong,
but I don't think I am what you're about to see,
and I'm gonna ask lyndon the question though, what you're
gonna see momentarily has not been seen by anyone else.
(53:43):
And this what you're going to see was verified. Was
actually the image was taken by the gentleman who joins
me right now, and I was able to do some
follow up investigation and found some things out. I'm not
going to disclose that again. We're going to limit what
(54:03):
we say, but understand there's some really bad things going
on when you look at it in the bigger sense.
This is a coup against our country, an attempted coup
in this case, but now that it failed, they're trying
to wipe up, as Dan Bongeno said, his entire existence.
But Lendon, what do you I mean, what do you
(54:24):
think about what Dan Bongino said about you know, you're
telling me that this is what he did without help
kind of what you said, right.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
It's exactly is the first thought I had when I
heard about the story and started to even think about
it at all, was that it's too clean. It is, Yeah,
it's too clean, so it eliminates the narrative from first principles,
and and it's it's you know, it's propaganda. It has
(54:55):
to be because it's the same narrative we always get
given about every single situation. How can it always be
the same all the time.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, it's a standard playbook, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (55:04):
It is?
Speaker 3 (55:04):
So that begs the next question. Okay, if the macro
level narrative is a joke, then what's the real narrative?
Speaker 2 (55:12):
And there it is, and what's the motive behind all
of this? Because as you said, and I was on
the show the other day some time ago, I was
talking about maybe I didn't well, yeah, I know I
mentioned the article, but I'm not sure if I mentioned
the context in which I found the article. I was
(55:33):
reaching for a book from russ Istar or one of
Russ's books, and out came this copy. And somebody in
the chat rumble chat on that day put up a
hard copy link to a CIA archive.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
But it was about creating assassins back in nineteen fifties.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, yeah, it was a documented piece by The New
York Times from the Freedom of Information Act that talked
about how Project Artichoke yes, well, it specifically had had
worked to create a chronological series of events for would
be assassins to execute a pre programmed set of steps,
(56:10):
which is interesting because a lot of times you think, okay,
an event happens. So let's say you show up to
go shoot somebody. There's an assumption that there's someone who
and you're being handled. There's an assumption that that person
must have activated you, or triggered you, or told you
what to do on that day at that time. What
(56:30):
Project Artichoke says is no, the initiation of the steps
began a week ago. There you go, So there was
a meetup at dunkin Donuts where you were given the
go ahead, and it initiated a series of events which
culminate in a would be assassination attempt. And interesting in
that New York Times article, it describes Jude July thirteenth
(56:54):
almost exactly except it says that the law enforcement scooped up.
That would be a as in for interrogation or whatever.
They don't say that he was killed.
Speaker 1 (57:04):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
That was very telling. But the important piece, the initiation
of a long set of pre programmed steps, was what
Project Artistoke was all about.
Speaker 2 (57:16):
And yeah, and to think obviously, folks, to think that
that program was stopped with the exposure. No, no, no, no,
before we run out of time, I do want to
show this image. This is courtesy of well Landon was
able to get this. The context very quickly is you know,
the wiping out of his electronic existence. Well wait a second,
(57:40):
let's look at his normal existence. What's going on there?
Well on the ground field investigation? Look what land and
look what this? Look what we found? This is his
school book. I'm sorry your book school picture. Yeah, and
(58:01):
you didn't do that. I didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (58:05):
You you you went to the public library, you grabbed
ahold of his yearbook. Yeah, you opened it to the page.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
It's just it's just investigation one o one. You know,
you just try to go to some some nearby places
just to gather your your you know, photos of who
you're looking for and all that. We do this all
the time. This is standard stuff. And uh, I was
just kind of curious, and so we we just popped
into a nearby library, pulled the yearbooks from the high
school just to get our pictures in order, you know,
(58:34):
understand if if what was being shown online was the
extent of what's known or if there's something else. Well, interestingly, yeah,
that's I believe from his sophomore year, and it's just
it's just not there. It's been cut out.
Speaker 2 (58:49):
And yeah, look you can this day and age, you
can take a photograph of the page the picture. Absolutely,
you can copy it. I mean, there's no need for that.
So there's something very very wrong here.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Absolutely, And what you and a lot of people online
they've said things like, how come we only have this
picture of this kid from when he was sixteen or whatever?
And the reality is is that what we also found
just looking at the other yearbooks is that that's when
his pictures stop. There are no other pictures in his
junior and senior year in the yearbook. So that's also
(59:24):
why you haven't seen something more recent. And then that
super duper I have no presence online thing. There are
just no public pictures of this kid from the time
of that one that was cut out. Yes, was the
last picture that we basically have of him, the black
Rock commercial. But the black Rock commercial, of course, which
was unintentional, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (59:44):
All right, well, Landing, we're out of time, folks. I'm
gotta tell you it was a pleasure having landing from
save them dot org. Here big deep support landing and
support the Shadow Ops as well. God bless you, Jeff,
more than you see tomorrow.